1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: On the sports tuttle with us this evening Matt Brown, 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Oceania Football's Confederations media manager and Nick Bewley, news dog 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: zb's Canterbury sports treat hire you too hit it all right? 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: So Nick, obviously they want to end the year with 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a statement score. But apart from that, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: what do you reckon? Have they convinced us? 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Look, I think the first year ever World Cup cycle 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: well for me anyways, very much a year of discovery. 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: And look, it hasn't probably been the revolution that some 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: of US rugby commentators were expecting, but I think, as 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Scott Hanson alluded to there, they're very much in a 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: better place than they were during the Rugby Championship. When 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: I reflect on the year, that real black mark is 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: that Argentina defeat at home. I think I've been on 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: your program in this very slot saying there's no shame 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: in losing to South Africa twice in South Africa, and 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: I'll add to that, there's no shame in losing narrowly 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: by the barrister margins one point to France in Paris. 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: So look, we expect them to get the job done 20 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: and it would be a very different conversation next week 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: if they. 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: Somehow lost to Italy. 23 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: But I think they can sit back at home provided 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: they get the job done and the should and look in. Yes, 25 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: four losses and black and white doesn't look so flash. 26 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: But again, first year of a World Cup cycle. I 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: can't remember the last time I was sitting at a 28 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: pub with my mates talking about twenty sixteen or twenty twelve. 29 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: It's all about the years twenty three, twenty nineteen, twenty 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: seven in this instance. 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: So I think it's a pass. 32 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, Matt. Matt. I was saying 33 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: to one of the sports guys the other day, I'd 34 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: read somewhere that Razor has a winning rate at the 35 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: moment of sixty nine percent. Now, obviously if he wins 36 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: against Italy it will go up, but sixty nine percent. 37 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: They were like, is it that high? That's not that bad. 38 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: It's not that bad, is it? 39 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 4: Well, sixty nine percent is not great, to be honest, 40 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: I mean, but then again, we've been blessed with people 41 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: like you know, so Graham, Henry Steve Henson andreparing it. 42 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: To Graham Henri's it was a lot high. Are you 43 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: comparing it to Graham Henry's first year, though. 44 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: Not his first year when he lost what five tests 45 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: in two thousand and was it two thousand and four? 46 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: If we go all the way back yet, did you go? 47 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 48 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: Look, I give him about a seven out of ten 49 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: to be honest, I think performance wise at times, I 50 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: think the England tests we did not perform well in 51 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: New Zealand, but. 52 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: They were the first two tests. 53 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: I also agree with Nick about South Africa. I mean, 54 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: ore the benchmark at the moment, we could have won 55 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: both those tests. They were that close in South Africa, 56 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: and of course the highlight would have to be that 57 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: winning island to break their winning run of nineteen tests 58 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: in a row. So yeah, a lot of positives, without 59 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: a doubt. I mean to see guys like It's a 60 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: tt to really emerge via and Bya's case. 61 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: A real leader. 62 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: I think TV is going to be there for a decade, 63 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: i'd imagine, and you know, to see some of the 64 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: young players start to come through. I still have real 65 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: concerns over First five, particularly long long term. I don't 66 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: see where where the next first five is coming after 67 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: after Boaden Barrett and Deanie McKenzie. So I think we 68 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: have some concerns, but overalls, overall, I think yeah, a 69 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: past mark for sure. 70 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's take a break. I want to come 71 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: back and talk about cocaine news. What a tease Quarter. 72 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 5: Two Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand'sby's International Realty. Elevate 73 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 5: the marketing of your home. 74 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Right, you're back of the sports title. Matt Brown, Nick 75 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Beuley like Matt okay, answer this question for me. Should 76 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: we be suspending players for doing recreational drugs if we 77 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: didn't even know that they were doing it and they 78 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: did in their spare time, and the only reason they 79 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: did a recreational drug was because we found it in 80 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: their blood because we were testing them for doping. 81 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and yes ah, yes, I think we should look. 82 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: It's banned for as a band stimulant under the wider 83 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: list for example. For that's the first point. And also 84 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 4: you know it's against the law, so it's something illegal. 85 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, and it's a bad role model. 86 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: But Matt okay, hang on a take, So marijuana is 87 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: also banned by WADA. That's not a stim I try 88 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: taking marijuana and playing a game of cricket, right, and 89 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: nobody believes cocaine is actually a stimulant. It'll lasts for 90 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. 91 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: It's on the banned listen as an athlete, you know 92 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: you can't. Yeah, technically and in my view, if if 93 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: it's a band stimula, I mean on the list, why 94 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: is it? That's not a question for me. But it 95 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: is on the list, and I and he would have 96 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: known it's on the list. That's the other thing. 97 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose. I mean, you can't get around the rules, 98 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Keny Nick. But it is a bit dumb, isn't it. 99 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: I tend to agree with what Matt's saying. 100 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: I guess the only point I'd make is that this 101 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: Doug Bracelet situation that we're talking about in terms of 102 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: recreational use. 103 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: You compare that to josh Ada Carr, who is in our. 104 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: News, the rugby league player over at the Canterbury Bulldogs, 105 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: pulled over by the cops and a random roadside drug 106 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: test ends up getting test positive for cocaine. 107 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: His NRL contract is ripped up. 108 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: I do wonder there where you know where the cops 109 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: should be doing this type of thing when it comes 110 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: to your road policing and what have you as opposed 111 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: to drug free Sport ends at least having a deeper 112 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: conversation with some wider context around should recreational drugs be 113 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: on the on our list of of what our what 114 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: we're what we're seeking in terms of obviously doping and 115 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: performance enhancing drugs. But ultimately, as Matt says, it's it's 116 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: illegal dunk and all the other New Zealand athletes will 117 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: know it's there and that's and that's the low. 118 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 119 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically, how long do you do you guys? 120 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean, like weed stays in your system for two weeks? 121 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: How long is coke stay in your system? 122 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: You're asking the wrong people, Heather. 123 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, ask the pregnant lady as well. 124 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: But look what the one thing I can say, and look, 125 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm not not condoning it by any way, shape or form, 126 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: but you do hear in sporting circles and this has 127 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: been around for quite a long time. I think the 128 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Keywis rugby league team for example, that was the best 129 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: part of a decade ago. Now with Bromwich and Kim 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: Proctor that it does exit the system within what twelve 131 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: to twenty four hours or something, so players know compared 132 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: to hangover more for performance it's just Google and. 133 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: He said three days to a week. The reason I 134 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: was asking Nick was because basically what you're talking about, 135 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Doug brace Will has been playing cricket now 136 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: for donkeys years. So what about here, Yeah, what we're 137 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: talking about, and let's remember it as illegal, but what 138 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: we are talking about is that you cannot do these 139 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: drugs recreationally for the duration of your career because if 140 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: we find it in your system and you did it 141 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: on a Friday night, you are going to You're going 142 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: to be in trouble, regardless of whether it actually affects 143 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: your performance. Right, yeah, yeah, that's exactly that's life. Okay, Now, Matt, 144 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: I know that you're hugely into tennis. So how do 145 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you feel about Nadal. 146 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: As the end of an era? I mean, one of 147 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: the greatest players, one of the greatest three players the 148 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: world has ever seen, had an incredible career. I saw 149 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 4: twelve of his fourteen French Open ones in Paris, so 150 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: it really does you know, he warns me warm my 151 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: heart whenever I watched him play, the greatest competitor I 152 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: ever saw, So he will go down I think is 153 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: the greatest competitor in tennis. Well, you can say, I 154 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: don't know if you can say he's the greatest tennis 155 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 4: player ever. The reason I wouldn't agree with him being 156 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: the greatest ever he won fourteen of his twenty two 157 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 4: slams on one surface, So in terms of the all 158 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: court game, you'd have to say, you know, SIMI statistically 159 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: Djokovic and in terms of the style of play, the 160 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: way he played Fetterer for me, probably still ahead of 161 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: him in terms of the greatest of all time, but 162 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: right up there in the conversation amazing athlete. 163 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: What's he going to do now? 164 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: Nick? 165 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I heard that he's opening pickleball courts or something like that. 166 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: You know, whatever he likes. 167 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: Of course, he's got his foundations, he's got his academies, 168 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: you know, as Matt says, he'll go down as one 169 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: of the greats. And I mean, you think of the 170 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: last few years as well. It has been I've been 171 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: agonizing rarely to see him, you know, put what all 172 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: that stress that he's put over and through his body 173 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: and his knees and so on over the last fifteen 174 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: or so years, sort. 175 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: Of catch up with him. 176 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: You know. 177 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: I think he spoke before the Davis Cup lost this 178 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: week about saying. 179 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 2: He could have gone around another year, but he doesn't 180 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: need that for his ego in terms of some farewell tour, 181 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: And I think that's an excellent decision for me anyway, 182 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: as someone who grew up with Nadele, Federer and Djokovic, 183 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: you don't want to see your heroes kind of going out, 184 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: bowing out and. 185 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: Losing in the first round of the ASP Classic in Auckland. 186 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, Kurt Austin Nadell, it's one of my favorite 187 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: athletes of all time. 188 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: Athlete either the most humble athlete in sport. 189 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: I think sound like it a sounds like there is 190 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: not a bit of ego in that. 191 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: Man. 192 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you so much. 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