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Speaker 6: Very very good morning, welcome along to the show. On
Speaker 6: the steep fourth of May, which seems to as the
Speaker 6: fourth fourth of May, fourth of May, the fourth be
Speaker 6: with you. Star Wars has kind of co opted that
Speaker 6: to be fair and to be slightly somber for a moment.
Speaker 6: It's it's a slightly more significant day for me in
Speaker 6: the sense that today marks I think today's the official
Speaker 6: day to remember the end of the Second World warf
Speaker 6: the Dutch community for the Netherlands, and so they'll actually
Speaker 6: be memorial this afternoon that I'll go to so and
Speaker 6: it's a mate's birthday as well, so it's my birthday
Speaker 6: in a couple of days. Anyway, Radio, let's get talking
Speaker 6: about building, because that's what we're here to do. Oh
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Speaker 6: The text is up and running as well. That's nine
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Speaker 6: if you'd like to send me an email, you're more
Speaker 6: than welcome. It's Pete Atnewstalk ZB dot co dot nz.
Speaker 6: So if you have got a project, that's maybe you're
Speaker 6: about to start, or you have started, or you have started.
Speaker 6: And look, let's be blunt. The wheels have come off
Speaker 6: the troll and the thing's plunging into the abyss and
Speaker 6: it's not going particularly well. Maybe I can help you
Speaker 6: with that as well, or perhaps with all of the
Speaker 6: changes to legislation, you're wondering which parts of the rules
Speaker 6: apply to me now. In fact, one of the things
Speaker 6: that I've been trying to get my head around this
Speaker 6: week has been around healthy home standards for heating. And
Speaker 6: then once you read through the legislation, there's some information
Speaker 6: in there that says if your heating requirement is more
Speaker 6: than two point four killer watts, which is not a
Speaker 6: lot to be fair, then basically the only acceptable form
Speaker 6: of heating becomes a heat pump. And so I was
Speaker 6: curious as to why that was the case. Why you
Speaker 6: couldn't use let's say a three killer what heater in
Speaker 6: a relatively small space in order to achieve the heating requirement.
Speaker 6: Why that suddenly was non compliant. So, as part of
Speaker 6: my sort of investigation onto this, ended up talking to
Speaker 6: some peace Pole at ECA, which is the energy efficiency people,
Speaker 6: to a guy who's actually been on the show a
Speaker 6: couple of oh gee, it might have been a year
Speaker 6: ago now who does all of the energy calculations and
Speaker 6: so on. Had a great chat with him. Actually we're
Speaker 6: catching up this week at the Green Building Council Housing
Speaker 6: summit which is on Wednesday, which I'm really looking forward
Speaker 6: to attending. And then and drilled down into why it
Speaker 6: is that that's the requirement, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So there's
Speaker 6: some interesting stuff around. How I suppose what was interesting
Speaker 6: about that is, we've got a piece of legislation which
Speaker 6: ends up being a rule that we all need to
Speaker 6: comply with. But sometimes it's quite interesting to investigate why
Speaker 6: that rule is what it is. So that was kind
Speaker 6: of an interesting thing. It was a nice way to
Speaker 6: distract me from the mind bendingly boring task of standing
Speaker 6: about fifty odd ballisters, each one of it's a you know,
Speaker 6: it's an old villa that I'm working on, and I
Speaker 6: had to pull all the handrail off because they'd started
Speaker 6: to rot and they look pretty shonky, and the top
Speaker 6: rail had rotted and part of the bottom rail had rotted.
Speaker 6: So I ended up dissembling the entire thing, knocking off
Speaker 6: the top, bottom, top and bottom rails, taking the ballisters,
Speaker 6: which were not terribly old but hadn't lasted particularly well,
Speaker 6: and then sending them. And then as I was sort
Speaker 6: of allowing my mind to wander, when I got to
Speaker 6: like ballister number thirty six or something like that out
Speaker 6: of about fifty, trying to count the number of edges
Speaker 6: there are on a turned ballister that you've kind of
Speaker 6: got that square bit at the bottom and then it
Speaker 6: rounds over and then it goes to a little flat
Speaker 6: and then it goes to a divot, and then it
Speaker 6: goes to another flat, and then it goes to another round,
Speaker 6: and then it scollops out, and then it's got that
Speaker 6: sort of belly bit and then it goes to it.
Speaker 6: It's a lot of work old houses. I know why
Speaker 6: we don't build like we did back one hundred and
Speaker 6: something years ago when this house was originally built. Righty Oh,
Speaker 6: if you've got a project and you want to talk
Speaker 6: about it, or some legislation that you want to talk about,
Speaker 6: or new products and ideas that you'd like to talk about,
Speaker 6: the lines are open and we can talk all things
Speaker 6: building and construction. We will do that right through to
Speaker 6: about eight thirty this morning. The Root Climb past as always,
Speaker 6: will join us in the garden as we talk about
Speaker 6: all things gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as
Speaker 6: well from around eight thirty this morning. But now is
Speaker 6: your opporgenity to talk all things building and construction. Oh,
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Speaker 6: Plenty to talk about lots and still lots of legislation.
Speaker 6: Big news last week about self certification. I did a
Speaker 6: bit of an interview during the course of the week
Speaker 6: talking about what is likely to happen in terms of
Speaker 6: self certification. If you've missed this in the news, it
Speaker 6: was an announcement by the Construction and Building or Building
Speaker 6: and Construction Minister Chris Penk during the week, an idea
Speaker 6: that they've obviously been working on for a little while
Speaker 6: which will allow essentially selected or nominated building companies to
Speaker 6: sign off their own work. This is in terms of
Speaker 6: you know, inspections that are typically done by council building
Speaker 6: inspectors pre line inspections to ensure that the installation that
Speaker 6: is there, or that the timber is dry enough for lining,
Speaker 6: or that the bracing has been installed. It may not
Speaker 6: be all inspections, there's a bit of a hierarchy to them,
Speaker 6: I think, and it certainly won't be all builders, but
Speaker 6: there will be a provision for some builders who can
Speaker 6: prove that they've got the quality assurance systems in place,
Speaker 6: who have I guess sufficient size to cope with the
Speaker 6: problem of work failing in the future, and insurances that
Speaker 6: will carry on long enough to ensure that consumers are protected.
Speaker 6: So we can talk about that as well. And if
Speaker 6: you're in the industry, I've seen incredibly diverse opinions on this,
Speaker 6: in the sense that there are some who are embracing it.
Speaker 6: I talked to one guy during the course of the
Speaker 6: week whose firm is probably going to be eligible for that,
Speaker 6: and saying, hey, look, that's great. You know we've we've
Speaker 6: got the systems in place. We feel confident that we
Speaker 6: can maintain standards without necessarily having council come in and
Speaker 6: look over our shoulder. And then I've seen posts and
Speaker 6: comments online from people saying this is just going to
Speaker 6: be disastrous. So if you'd like to throw in your opinion,
Speaker 6: happy to hear at Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 6: is the number to call, thirteen after six on this
Speaker 6: the fourth of May, Helca. Good morning, Ah, hi.
Speaker 7: Hey, good good. What's this recent storm that's just have fun. Yes,
Speaker 7: I've spoken to some people with wooden houses here in Avancos,
Speaker 7: came in from the west, you know, the storm, and
Speaker 7: they said houses were shaking.
Speaker 8: Yes, So would that affect.
Speaker 7: That our foundations are in.
Speaker 6: The same No, I mean that not this most recent storm,
Speaker 6: but the one that we had over Easter when there
Speaker 6: was a lot of thunder and so on. I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm in.
Speaker 7: An old the one that we're in a hit the skytower.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that one.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, we had some pretty heavy weather this week,
Speaker 6: you know, obviously with some flooding further down the country
Speaker 6: and so on. But yeah, I mean, look, I was
Speaker 6: woken up in the middle of the night by the
Speaker 6: thunderstorms as well, and the house shook, right. So, you know,
Speaker 6: houses are actually designed to move to some degree. Old
Speaker 6: timber houses certainly are, and so the fact that it
Speaker 6: moves a little bit probably doesn't impact on the foundations.
Speaker 6: I think what we tend to see with older houses
Speaker 6: is as we shift from like we've had a pretty
Speaker 6: dry summer to now being kind of saturated. And I
Speaker 6: could feel it in my own house where it just
Speaker 6: felt like the house had absorbed all of this moisture
Speaker 6: that suddenly it was kind of and this is what
Speaker 6: older houses do, and this is where I think sometimes,
Speaker 6: you know, there's a sense that we're doing a whole
Speaker 6: lot of things now with buildings that we didn't do
Speaker 6: in the past, and even as simple as building paper
Speaker 6: on the outside of the timber framing or ceiling around
Speaker 6: the windows and all of that is to control how
Speaker 6: moisture migrates through walls.
Speaker 4: Because it does right.
Speaker 6: And so you know, if you've got a relatively modern
Speaker 6: house that's got a really good type of building wrap
Speaker 6: or a rigid air barrier around the outside, and it's
Speaker 6: sealed around the windows, and you've got better performing joinery
Speaker 6: that doesn't allow air to go in and out around
Speaker 6: the gaps and cracks in the joinery, then you can
Speaker 6: sort of protect yourself from that. But an older house,
Speaker 6: possibly like what you live in, certainly what I live in.
Speaker 7: I live in the monastery.
Speaker 6: Ah okay, all right, See, you know, it would be
Speaker 6: really interesting to measure the indoor quality, the air quality
Speaker 6: and or the indoor environment after a period of sustained
Speaker 6: hot weather like we've had over the summer in Auckland
Speaker 6: through to now where it's kind of it's sort of
Speaker 6: like moderated in my house. But I remember when we
Speaker 6: went from we haven't had much rain to we've had
Speaker 6: a lot of rain, the house just felt different. And
Speaker 6: that's just the house sucking up moisture, which is arguably
Speaker 6: not a great thing, to be.
Speaker 7: Fair, No one other thing I did a silly thing.
Speaker 7: I opened my curtains, a lightning came right into my
Speaker 7: bed dreams, so I had to shut up. That happened,
Speaker 7: and I was in this storm and there had no
Speaker 7: curtains in the garage and the lightning came right into
Speaker 7: the room. But so I had to shut the curtains.
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not sure that the curtains would stop
Speaker 6: the lightning. But there was an impressive photograph I think,
Speaker 6: during the week of a house out in Birkenhead that
Speaker 6: got struck by lightning as well. So yeah, this this
Speaker 6: storm and the last one, I think. What what I
Speaker 6: find really interesting is that this is when you know,
Speaker 6: we we sort of this is the test for our houses, right,
Speaker 6: you know, this is the sort of environment where even
Speaker 6: in terms of roofs lifting or in terms of how
Speaker 6: well wrapped the houses are, it's it's this sort of
Speaker 6: weather that we that we should actually not just prepare for,
Speaker 6: but this is what our houses are designed to resist.
Speaker 6: And I've seen like window testing, for example, where there's
Speaker 6: a way there's a specific formula for testing the weather
Speaker 6: tightness of windows, which is a certain amount of water
Speaker 6: for a certain period of time at a certain pressure,
Speaker 6: and so manufacturers have to test their joinery to that level,
Speaker 6: and you often go, oh, you hardly have arrains like that.
Speaker 6: But when it does, that's when we want to that's
Speaker 6: when we want our houses to perform. So it's interesting,
Speaker 6: I think, unless it's an incredibly severe storm, the fact
Speaker 6: that your house moved a little bit in the weather,
Speaker 6: I think is okay to be fair saying that. Actually
Speaker 6: this week I'm really looking forward to that. This I'm
Speaker 6: going down to Wellington for the Home and Garden Show
Speaker 6: which starts this Friday in Wellington, so Friday, Saturday Sunday
Speaker 6: at the Stadium there and I'll be down there for
Speaker 6: most of Saturday, presenting on Saturday during the day. But
Speaker 6: I'm heading down on Friday and I've got an invitation
Speaker 6: to go to BRANDS, which is the Building Research Association
Speaker 6: of New Zealand. So Brands are sort of a body
Speaker 6: that tests and determines the compliance the code for any
Speaker 6: number of products, including they've got a massive laboratory effectively
Speaker 6: where they can do fire testing, where they can do
Speaker 6: earthquake testing and so on. So you know, for all
Speaker 6: of us who have put in, you know, fixings for
Speaker 6: bracing elements for example, and we wonder what sort of
Speaker 6: pressure that wall could resist before it fails. Well, that's
Speaker 6: the type of testing that they do there. So I'm
Speaker 6: heading down to Brands on Friday morning for a bit
Speaker 6: of a walk around the factory or walk around the
Speaker 6: laboratory and a catch up with some of the people there,
Speaker 6: which I'm really really looking forward to because again, you know,
Speaker 6: you read through literature or you go and you get
Speaker 6: a brand's guide or a download and you go, well,
Speaker 6: how did they reach that conclusion? I'll find out on Friday,
Speaker 6: So looking forward to that, ahead of the Home and
Speaker 6: Garden Show which will be on in Wellington on Friday
Speaker 6: Saturday Sunday, So looking forward to that as well. Oh
Speaker 6: eight one hundred and eighty ten ages before the break
Speaker 6: this with regard to the self certification, Hey Pete, I've
Speaker 6: been building nearly twenty years. Re the self certification I
Speaker 6: was discussing was a BCEA so Building Consents Authority team
Speaker 6: leader who shares my apprehension. Twenty twenty one, we bought
Speaker 6: a transportable house from Manawatu's largest home builder. Piles were
Speaker 6: poured in a failed engineered inspection. The floor had nineteen
Speaker 6: milimeter round, had floor had ninety milimeters round, Not sure
Speaker 6: what that means. Linear seilent stops were missing. The valves
Speaker 6: or screws were rusting. The kitchen wall cracked several times.
Speaker 6: Then they realized that the wall framing under a load
Speaker 6: bearing beam was only nailed together. All real examples are documented,
Speaker 6: and all real examples documented and resolved. Self certification will
Speaker 6: likely create many issues for customers. In my opinion, BCA
Speaker 6: inspections are needed to avoid preventable issues being identified. Yeah, look,
Speaker 6: I'm not going to argue with you. That's your experience,
Speaker 6: and I guess what we hoped is that those that
Speaker 6: will be eligible for self certification will have systems in
Speaker 6: place to ensure that what sound like fairly straightforward building
Speaker 6: issues are one of the mistakes aren't made, and if
Speaker 6: they are made, they're resolved. Take more of your text
Speaker 6: on that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that
Speaker 6: number to call? Twenty one minutes after six back after
Speaker 6: the break with Brian.
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Speaker 6: Talk CB. We're talking all things building, construction, the practical
Speaker 6: and I guess is it the theoretical. Well, legislation is
Speaker 6: not really theoretical, but we can talk about them. So
Speaker 6: we will talk all things building construction and some products
Speaker 6: and new ideas as well. Brian, A very good morning
Speaker 6: to you.
Speaker 9: Good morning for you know. I have an old I
Speaker 9: have an old problem with Taylor fair Show.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 9: And I've lived in the past and you recommended how
Speaker 9: did fix it? Get it fixed by other people? Yes,
Speaker 9: so I just did some health here. It's just coming in.
Speaker 9: It goes round the whole house, but it's just coming
Speaker 9: in where that we said six for six on it.
Speaker 10: Yes, cam inreck my whole kitchen and everything. So I
Speaker 10: mean that I spoked to Taylor and they said they
Speaker 10: can put extra dumb papes and X all the flaws
Speaker 10: in or should I just get the whole thing replaced.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, adding some additional downpipes will help reduce
Speaker 6: you know, because I think what happens well. One of
Speaker 6: the issues with them is that I don't know that
Speaker 6: the amount of water that that system carries is particularly great, right,
Speaker 6: and so if we're having downpalls now of twenty thirty
Speaker 6: millimeters per hour, it's a it's a staggering amount out
Speaker 6: of water that your roof will collect, right, So I
Speaker 6: did the calculations. The other day we installed a new
Speaker 6: Bailey water tank onto a site and it was a
Speaker 6: twenty thousand liter tank and twenty five thousand le tank
Speaker 6: I think it was. And it was connected to a
Speaker 6: workshop with a two hundred square meter roof. So one
Speaker 6: millimeter of rain would create two hundred liters of water. Now,
Speaker 6: if we're getting you know, ten times that amount in
Speaker 6: an hour and for several hours in a row, it's
Speaker 6: a staggering amount of the volume that you collect. So, yes,
Speaker 6: if you've got relatively small gutters, which I know that
Speaker 6: the original tailor facer did, versus let's say a one
Speaker 6: fifty external spouting, right, which has a lot more volume
Speaker 6: and can carry more water, then by the time the
Speaker 6: water gets into the spouting travels to the downpipe. Often
Speaker 6: the downpipes are actually relatively small. They might be sixty
Speaker 6: five millimeter as opposed to an eighty or one hundred
Speaker 6: milimeter downpipe. That'll help, But look, I think you know
Speaker 6: the issue is when it goes wrong or when we
Speaker 6: have extreme well it's not even extreme weather. These sorts
Speaker 6: of weather events are more and more common, right, It's
Speaker 6: not unusual now to get down paws of twenty thirty
Speaker 6: millimeters of rain per hour for a sustained period. So
Speaker 6: you know what happens with that the old tailor and
Speaker 6: class facier is that it tends to flow over the
Speaker 6: back of the the upstand of the gutter and then
Speaker 6: it drops down onto the safet. And the safite is
Speaker 6: installed before the cladding, and so the water tracks along
Speaker 6: there and dives in behind the cladding. And that's that's
Speaker 6: exactly what happened in your kitchen. So you know, I
Speaker 6: think in this instance, if you had something whereby the
Speaker 6: spouting is hanging on the outside of the facia and
Speaker 6: that if the spouting can't cope, even if it flows
Speaker 6: over the back of the spouting and down in front
Speaker 6: of the faci, it it just goes onto the ground.
Speaker 6: So yes, I mean, look, I think you know, you
Speaker 6: can have a go at fixing it, or you can
Speaker 6: have a go putting in more downpipes. The other thing
Speaker 6: was putting in more downpipes is where do they go?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 11: They just flaws?
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yes, you could install more overflows. And look,
Speaker 6: in the end, we're all constrained by budget, right, And
Speaker 6: I'm very aware that sometimes I'll make a suggestion like
Speaker 6: you should replace it, and realize that not everyone's in
Speaker 6: a position where that's affordable, in which case, if you
Speaker 6: are constrained by budget or you don't want to invest
Speaker 6: in it, then yeah, adding more overflows will help, but
Speaker 6: it's it won't solve the problem. My feeling is, I'll
Speaker 6: be quite honest about it, is that those systems typically
Speaker 6: don't work particularly well, and so having a system with
Speaker 6: facia and then outboard spouting seems to be a better solution.
Speaker 6: And the reason I mentioned the two companies that I
Speaker 6: have over the last little while is because I'm aware
Speaker 6: that they've developed systems where they've got a retrofit system
Speaker 6: that works.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: I'm sure there are others. I'm not aware of them.
Speaker 6: I'm happy for someone to reach out to me and say, hey,
Speaker 6: we've got a system as well. But I know that
Speaker 6: both the custom Facier guys and Continuous Group have systems
Speaker 6: that they've developed that work.
Speaker 9: So it's Customs and Continuous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, And I've seen both of their systems around.
Speaker 6: I've had quotes from one of them anyway for a job,
Speaker 6: just to get a rough idea, and I must stag
Speaker 6: it out. Actually I didn't think it was well, look,
Speaker 6: everything's expensive, but it didn't. It didn't feel like it
Speaker 6: was an un reasonable amount of money to charge for
Speaker 6: something that will give you so much peace of mind.
Speaker 9: If you have a lineal lilion meta, how much to
Speaker 9: a beta?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: Look, I tell you what, especially nowadays you know with
Speaker 6: gies right and with satellite imagery. What I did is
Speaker 6: it was a property that a family member was interested
Speaker 6: in purchasing. It had that concealed spouting facial system, and
Speaker 6: I said, if you go ahead and buy the property,
Speaker 6: you should set aside some money to resolve it. And
Speaker 6: so I simply sent the address. It was custom Actually
Speaker 6: who did the pricing for me. Sent it to them.
Speaker 6: They can measure it using satellite imagery and gave me
Speaker 6: a quote back, so they don't even have to send
Speaker 6: someone out, so that that part of the technology is fantastic.
Speaker 6: Get a price, and then you can decide that's always
Speaker 6: the best thing. Hey, good luck with that, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Well hopefully I've just given you information you can convince yourself.
Speaker 6: There you go, mate, All the very best to your Brian,
Speaker 6: take care. Maybe this is the thing and I'm in
Speaker 6: the same situation where you know, like for Brian, he's
Speaker 6: going to spend some money to resolve a problem in
Speaker 6: the end, but he's still going to sort of get
Speaker 6: what he's already got, which is, you know, some sort
Speaker 6: of facire around the outside of the building and some
Speaker 6: spouting right the idea being it captures the water directs
Speaker 6: it to this downpipes. So you end up spending money,
Speaker 6: but you just get what you had before. In the
Speaker 6: same way that the project one of the projects that
Speaker 6: I'm doing at the moment, restoring or replacing all of
Speaker 6: the handrails and ballusters. In the end, after all of
Speaker 6: the work that I've done, I just get back what
Speaker 6: I had before, which is kind of maintenance. Normally, if
Speaker 6: we're doing projects, we want to see some dramatic improvement,
Speaker 6: and while this will look better, it'll be what I
Speaker 6: had before, just that won't be falling apart, which I
Speaker 6: suppose is better. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 6: If you've got a question about building, about building legislation,
Speaker 6: starting to get a few texts and around the new certification,
Speaker 6: this is a good one actually, before we go to
Speaker 6: the break, Hey, Pete, the new certifications being sold as
Speaker 6: a money saverer for the building owner. I wonder how
Speaker 6: much insurance will cost. I suspect if it's available, this
Speaker 6: will cancel out any savings. Also be interested if the
Speaker 6: insurance company sticks around when one mistake is repeated through
Speaker 6: one hundred houses. Interesting point. Look, it's a great discussion
Speaker 6: and we need to have this discussion and people need
Speaker 6: to be aware, I suppose of some of the potential pitfalls.
Speaker 6: These are also the sort of texts that I hope
Speaker 6: you'll send in again next week when Chris Pink, the Minister,
Speaker 6: will be here in the studio. We'll have a bit
Speaker 6: of a chat and you'll have an opportunity to text
Speaker 6: or possibly even phone through. So he's making himself available
Speaker 6: pretty much for an hour, which I'm very grateful for
Speaker 6: from early on Sunday morning. So looking forward to that.
Speaker 6: That's next Sunday, Sunday, the eleventh of May, oh eight
Speaker 6: hundred eighty ten eighty. The number call.
Speaker 1: Whether you're paidy the ceiling, fixing the fens or wondering
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, Give feeder,
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Speaker 4: Eighty ten eighty the resident builder on Youth Dogs.
Speaker 6: That'd be talking all things building and construction, the actual
Speaker 6: practical bits as well as the rules and regulations and
Speaker 6: the materials that are out there, and again this is
Speaker 6: probably something to discuss with the Minister when he joins
Speaker 6: us in the studio next week. Is around the change
Speaker 6: to the legislation that will allow the importation and use
Speaker 6: of building products perhaps that haven't got New Zealand certification
Speaker 6: that are not tested here if you can prove that
Speaker 6: they've been manufactured to a similar standard as what would
Speaker 6: be acceptable in New Zealand. So again gets quite complicated
Speaker 6: quite quickly. We'll talk about that maybe with the Minister
Speaker 6: as well. To be fair, I think it makes a
Speaker 6: lot of sense. But it'll be in conversation to have
Speaker 6: with the people at Brands too when I'm down there
Speaker 6: on Friday. So really looking forward to that. Oh eight
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Kate
Speaker 6: A very good morning to you.
Speaker 12: Good morning to you, Pete. I trust you, Oh well,
Speaker 12: thank you and you yes, thank you. I have a
Speaker 12: very quick question. I think I've had a bit of
Speaker 12: landscaping done and I've used Jack Matte. The chap did
Speaker 12: a good job with all of the laying of the
Speaker 12: base course and the Jack matt and filling it in.
Speaker 12: Oh he's had to box in the it's for parking, yes,
Speaker 12: so he's had to box in some areas, and there
Speaker 12: will be occasionally a car perhaps driving over the boxing
Speaker 12: if they missed the edge.
Speaker 13: O ye.
Speaker 12: And yet most of the timber that he used to
Speaker 12: box in has been retained with waratas about a third
Speaker 12: of it.
Speaker 13: He used some posts yep, which.
Speaker 12: Are one hundred by one hundred and concrete it in
Speaker 12: and then they are along the lower areas where there
Speaker 12: wasn't quite such a height that he had to retain.
Speaker 12: He's used waratas. Can they stay in the ground long
Speaker 12: term or will they rust? Or will they you know,
Speaker 12: what's the story with these things? I thought they were
Speaker 12: just for stil fence and half.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, fabulous in the sense that you know, for
Speaker 6: fencing and temporary fencing and so on. They've certainly got
Speaker 6: their uses, and I think, you know, I was looking
Speaker 6: at job this week that had some warritas used as
Speaker 6: retaining as well, but it was more in a temporary sense. Look,
Speaker 6: I think the beauty of them is that they are
Speaker 6: remarkably robust. They're easy to drive in. You know, you
Speaker 6: can drive them in a decent way into the ground.
Speaker 6: Just using a sledgehammer or something similar. If it's like
Speaker 6: edging and maybe it holds up to I don't know,
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty two hundred millimeters, then I think
Speaker 6: they're probably not a bad solution. And look, they'll last
Speaker 6: as long as you need them to last. I think,
Speaker 6: you know, jeep as, I've probably got a collection of
Speaker 6: them underneath the house that I've used for twenty years
Speaker 6: or something like that, and they're still, you know, showing
Speaker 6: no sign of wear and tear. And I'm sure even
Speaker 6: if they were in the ground, they'd last twenty years
Speaker 6: twenty five years before they started to fail. You wouldn't,
Speaker 6: you know, because they're driven in to the ground and
Speaker 6: they're actually remarkably strong given how small they are. But
Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't use them. And it sounds like he
Speaker 6: hasn't used them for retaining anything significant. It's just where
Speaker 6: it gets quite shallow. You can use them to kind
Speaker 6: of stake the edges and and it'll probably be fine,
Speaker 6: thank you.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: It's look, I think, to be fair, if you went
Speaker 6: out and had a look at them in five years time,
Speaker 6: there'd be a little bit of rust on the top,
Speaker 6: but it's not going to you know, make it's not
Speaker 6: going to lead to failure.
Speaker 12: If that was the concern, I'm very reassured because clearly, Pete,
Speaker 12: they are going to last longer than I am.
Speaker 6: And I wasn't going to say anything like that, but
Speaker 6: I think, you know, at a certain point we all
Speaker 6: recognize that this, this is probably a reality in our
Speaker 6: lives as we age, is that some things will outlast us.
Speaker 12: Now that's great, appreciate it.
Speaker 6: No, look, I think it's in and it's straight, and
Speaker 6: it's not holding up a huge amount of weight. It'll
Speaker 6: be absolutely fine.
Speaker 12: Then they can be driven over if if somebody doesn't
Speaker 12: drive very well off the parking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, I wouldn't want to drive over
Speaker 6: the top of a warritor because they're relatively sharp on
Speaker 6: the top. I don't think it'd be terribly good for
Speaker 6: your tires. But yes, if somebody did drive over them, yeah.
Speaker 12: Well it's lower than in the edge of the timber.
Speaker 12: So they're driving over the timber as long as it's
Speaker 12: strong enough.
Speaker 6: And the challenging thing with them is how do you
Speaker 6: then fit the timber to it. So what I presume
Speaker 6: is they've done from the back is just use some
Speaker 6: tech screws or something like that, like a Heck's he'd
Speaker 6: screw and just screwed straight into the timber from behind.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's it'll be fun. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 12: No trouble at all.
Speaker 6: Take care see then by then. And I think it
Speaker 6: was actually the Minister Chris Pine used the phrase when
Speaker 6: you did the interview last week, quick and dirty solutions.
Speaker 6: And sometimes that's okay stuff. Some stuff just needs to
Speaker 6: last for a while. But and I think this is
Speaker 6: the challenge with building and builders is you know, for
Speaker 6: all of us, we're really focused on getting our job
Speaker 6: done today. You know, if that's putting on building paper
Speaker 6: and putting wraps in or ceiling around penetrations, we're thinking
Speaker 6: about getting the job done today. And I think one
Speaker 6: of the things we have to teach the young builders
Speaker 6: coming through is that what you're actually doing is not
Speaker 6: about today. It's about next week and the week after,
Speaker 6: and the month after and the year after and effectively
Speaker 6: the decade after. You know, if we're asking for our
Speaker 6: buildings to have a minimum time to stay up in
Speaker 6: terms of the structure of fifty years, what you've got
Speaker 6: to be thinking, what's got to be front of mind
Speaker 6: when you're building, is is this going to last twenty years?
Speaker 6: This is what I'm doing going to be good enough,
Speaker 6: not just for today, but for the next twenty years.
Speaker 6: I think that's really really important. Sorry, I'll see the text.
Speaker 9: Pete.
Speaker 6: You can find the war Retar sailing on the inter Islander.
Speaker 6: That's very good. I suspect because young Isaiah, my producer,
Speaker 6: is of a much younger vintage than I, that that
Speaker 6: reference will just sail right over his head, just right
Speaker 6: over the top. But I get it, and there'll be
Speaker 6: people chuckling, So I love that. Pete. You can find
Speaker 6: the Warratar sailing on the inter Islander from Alex very good,
Speaker 6: very droll, very droll. Indeed, seventeen minutes away from seven
Speaker 6: back after the break, will take your calls. Eight hundred
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty is the number.
Speaker 4: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.
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Speaker 6: We've got some spare lines. That's eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 6: ten eighty and I mean This is a show where
Speaker 6: we can pretty much talk about anything related to building,
Speaker 6: whether it's the and the regulations, the practical stuff dealing
Speaker 6: with subcontractors. We had a couple of really good questions
Speaker 6: last week around subcontractors, and not so much hourly rates,
Speaker 6: because I think that's the sort of thing that you
Speaker 6: have to decide. Still have in the back of my
Speaker 6: mind one someone saying what's an appropriate margin for subcontractors
Speaker 6: to charge on materials? But I think all of these
Speaker 6: things are up to up for discussion, as in, if
Speaker 6: you're engaging with a contractor, it's part of your negotiations
Speaker 6: with the subcontractor to decide. And if you find one subcontractor,
Speaker 6: for example, who has a lower margin, you may choose
Speaker 6: to go with that person, But then you've got to
Speaker 6: look at other parts of the contractor to determine whether
Speaker 6: or not that's fair. In fact, Made of Mind rang
Speaker 6: me yesterday and said, look, I've just had some I've
Speaker 6: had three prices for scaffolding, just scaffolding for a relatively small,
Speaker 6: average sized building. Some of it's slightly taller, some of
Speaker 6: the it's not so tall. Got a scaffold around the
Speaker 6: building for painting and maintenance and also some edge protection
Speaker 6: because someone's going to be working on the roof. And
Speaker 6: the prices came in and he said, what I have noticed,
Speaker 6: and maybe you've noticed this as well, is that typically
Speaker 6: when you get a scaffolding company to come in price,
Speaker 6: the price is often for the supply and erection of
Speaker 6: the scaffolding on site, and then you get basically a
Speaker 6: month's higher included in that initial fee, and then thereafter
Speaker 6: there'll be a weekly higher until the job's finished, and
Speaker 6: then the cost of pulling it down is included in
Speaker 6: the cost of putting it up. But it seems to
Speaker 6: have changed and now all of the prices that were
Speaker 6: supplied were to supply and erect the scaffold and one
Speaker 6: week's higher basically including the price, and after one week
Speaker 6: you started paying on a weekly basis, So it seems
Speaker 6: like that's changed as well. You make here to comment,
Speaker 6: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
Speaker 6: number to call. Very good question as well. On the text, Hey, Pete,
Speaker 6: there's been a lot of government announcements on building changes recently,
Speaker 6: just wondering when they will be in use. And then
Speaker 6: there's a proposed three six four changes to include medium
Speaker 6: density three stories that were announced in twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 6: one to be in place by twenty twenty three. Where
Speaker 6: is that at very good question. I'll try and save
Speaker 6: that and we can put that to the minister. So
Speaker 6: three six four is NZS three six four. It is
Speaker 6: the guide for light for basically timber frame construction up
Speaker 6: to two stories. But given that we're getting more and
Speaker 6: more developments of three stories, you can't use three six
Speaker 6: h four to design those. You have to end up
Speaker 6: having specific engineering design, obviously predominantly to deal with bracing
Speaker 6: because the building is that extra story tall. So will
Speaker 6: there be changes to three six four to allow you
Speaker 6: to use that guide as a way of designing relatively
Speaker 6: straightforward buildings to three stories high. That's a very good question.
Speaker 6: I'll photograph that text or I'll get someone to pull
Speaker 6: it off the machine and we can put that to
Speaker 6: the minister next week as well. Ten minutes away from
Speaker 6: seven to don hello there.
Speaker 14: Hello, I just rang up on site. This was interested
Speaker 14: in Palmiston North On the eighteenth of May, we are
Speaker 14: having a wood turning, a speed wood turning competition where
Speaker 14: turners are going to turn a bowl or some of
Speaker 14: the best tenners and you are going to tempt to
Speaker 14: turn a bowl in fifteen minutes. They'll all start off
Speaker 14: with just like the Golden Cheers Award, the Golden Chizzle Award,
Speaker 14: where turners are going to turn a bowl in fifteen minutes,
Speaker 14: straight off the lathe and no sandpaper, and they're going
Speaker 14: to be judged and the winner is going to get
Speaker 14: what we call the Golden Chisel Trophy.
Speaker 6: That's awesome. I love that. I think that's the.
Speaker 14: First time it's been I think the first time it's
Speaker 14: been attempted in New Zealand. Really speak takeular for for
Speaker 14: your listeners if they want to come up have a
Speaker 14: look Ammittally. It's some Palmiston North, but it's on the Sunday,
Speaker 14: the eighteenth of May at the at the Barber Hall
Speaker 14: and Water Grocery, Parmiston North.
Speaker 6: If people want to find out more, don is there
Speaker 6: like a Facebook page, Instagram website for this is someone.
Speaker 14: We can go on to the manor to Woodworkers Killed
Speaker 14: website and there's information on there about it and there
Speaker 14: is in Facebook's available too. I'm telling you all about it.
Speaker 14: It will be going all day. It's called the Central
Speaker 14: Districts Woodworking expo, and there's all sorts of people there,
Speaker 14: but they will be part of the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Look, I really appreciate the heads up on that,
Speaker 6: and I'm curious about the technical side of it. So
Speaker 6: will each of the turners bring their own lath or
Speaker 6: will you have a whole series of laths set up?
Speaker 15: That are we provide the six lades. They're all the
Speaker 15: type of blades. Actually, they're all you know, about the
Speaker 15: same standard, so that you know, there's no penalty for
Speaker 15: having a slower laser going to.
Speaker 6: Say, you know, I mean it could be rigged.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll give.
Speaker 14: Some Yeah, we're all turning the same blank which is
Speaker 14: a piece. It was a microcappa, which is having fifty
Speaker 14: seventy five okay, and it's not only the first one
Speaker 14: past the post, it's the more consistency of the bowls
Speaker 14: as well, and finish it again and things like that,
Speaker 14: and some quite good price manage to be made. So yeah,
Speaker 14: and so we're going to try it a manerer Widuks Guild.
Speaker 14: And I just thought your listeners would be brilliant, brilliant.
Speaker 6: I'll look it up online as well, and I think
Speaker 6: that's awesome. It'd be a great thing to.
Speaker 4: Be part of. Thank you very much much pleasure, all.
Speaker 6: The best on all take care. So just those details again.
Speaker 6: I think if you search Manoa two wood Workers Guild,
Speaker 6: it's the Central District's wood Turning Festival eighteenth of May
Speaker 6: Palastan North Fay because I got a message from some
Speaker 6: friends of mine in the UK the other day who
Speaker 6: who as a day out sort of thing. They went
Speaker 6: and found some local wood turners and had a day
Speaker 6: or a morning of wood turning. Never done it before
Speaker 6: in their lives, but obviously with some professional supervision they
Speaker 6: were able to go and create something. I haven't done
Speaker 6: wood turning since.
Speaker 4: Kriichi.
Speaker 6: I think pretty much. The one and only time that
Speaker 6: I ever did wood turning was in woodwork class with
Speaker 6: mister Buckton in about nineteen seventy eight. Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Form one nineteen seventy eight woodworking class with mister Buckton,
Speaker 6: and he allowed me at the end of the year
Speaker 6: to use the lathe. And I tell you what I made,
Speaker 6: effectively like a mallet you know that you'd use for chisling.
Speaker 6: And I made that and I've still got it. I've
Speaker 6: still got it and I still use it from time
Speaker 6: to time. One of my most treasured possessions, to be fair,
Speaker 6: a mallet that I made nineteen seventy eight, woodworking class.
Speaker 6: Ah see, good stuff last eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 6: The number the call pat Hello there, Hello.
Speaker 16: Just to be call. I don't even remember. I ran
Speaker 16: you before Christmas about my conservative roof that had hail
Speaker 16: damage for the third time. And my son in law
Speaker 16: has replaced the roof with the refrigerating panels and then
Speaker 16: it's marvelous.
Speaker 6: Okay, So this has been a solution to a problem
Speaker 6: with the conservatory roofs leaking.
Speaker 16: Yes, yes, and it was it was full of holes
Speaker 16: that hailstones, and the raid got into the first layer
Speaker 16: and it went all green.
Speaker 6: I think too. There there's something about, you know, the
Speaker 6: change in the environment and climatic conditions and so on,
Speaker 6: that you know in the same way that I think
Speaker 6: we used to look at It's almost like twenty five
Speaker 6: thirty years ago we all discovered that actually having north
Speaker 6: facing aspect is really really cool, right for our really
Speaker 6: really hot actually for our houses. So let's orientate our
Speaker 6: houses to the north, let's open them up to the
Speaker 6: sun and so on. But now suddenly we're also going criky.
Speaker 6: It gets boiling hot, and the same a little bit
Speaker 6: with conservatories. You know, hey, let's have this grape, big
Speaker 6: glass structure and absorb all of this heat. And now
Speaker 6: we're sort of going criky. Now that we've got all
Speaker 6: this heat, How do we manage it? What do we
Speaker 6: do with it? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So
Speaker 6: I think replacing clear roofing, let's say, with something that's
Speaker 6: actually insulated like that insulated roof panel in some situations
Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: That's awesome, it certainly does.
Speaker 16: But also too, when he was out there, he noticed
Speaker 16: where I've had a man out there to clear up
Speaker 16: my spou thing. Yes, it was awful at cracks.
Speaker 8: At this for me thick, Oh okay.
Speaker 16: Big hole. So now I'm morter tized and I'm so
Speaker 16: happy with its.
Speaker 6: Ring and oh that's fabulous. No, I really appreciate the update.
Speaker 6: And look, it does feel good when we do. You know,
Speaker 6: if we know we've got a problem with our houses, right,
Speaker 6: whether it's leaky this or a door that's a bit funny,
Speaker 6: or we know that the downpipe is not quite working,
Speaker 6: or the simple satisfaction of cleaning out your guttering right,
Speaker 6: just knowing that it works when it rains and it
Speaker 6: will and knowing that it works feels great. Saying that
Speaker 6: I've now written a note to myself to say I've
Speaker 6: got a place that I look after. And when I
Speaker 6: was up there the other day patching the roof actually
Speaker 6: ahead of the storm, just for eester, I looked at
Speaker 6: the spouting and thought, oh, it's been too long since
Speaker 6: I've done that. So that's on my list of things
Speaker 6: to do this week. So I'll see if.
Speaker 4: I feel good by next week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, always always, Hey, thanks for calling all the very best.
Speaker 8: Bye I them okay, bye bye.
Speaker 6: A couple of other actually some really good texts coming
Speaker 6: through with regard to the buildings and so actually just
Speaker 6: another comment just to sort of balance things out. I
Speaker 6: guess around the tailor facer and I'm not trying to
Speaker 6: be critical of whether it's Taylor Facier or Class Facier.
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident
Speaker 1: Builder with Peter Wolfcat call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 1: eighty Youth Talk ZB, your.
Speaker 6: New TALKSZB, welcome back to the show. Eight hundred eighty
Speaker 6: ten eighty Is that number to call if you've got
Speaker 6: a question of a building nature, whether that's materials, processes, legislation, contractors,
Speaker 6: legislation in terms of what you can do yourself and
Speaker 6: what you can't, we can talk about all of these
Speaker 6: sorts of things if you've got projects on and again
Speaker 6: I love that call, just very briefly from Don talking
Speaker 6: about a wood turning competition, and part of me was
Speaker 6: listening to that thinking are there enough people doing wood
Speaker 6: turning to make, you know, to get a team together
Speaker 6: effectively for a competition, But I actually think it's it's
Speaker 6: surprisingly popular, and the number of people that have probably
Speaker 6: got a lathe in the shed or you know, under
Speaker 6: the house in the basement and that sort of thing
Speaker 6: and doing the wood turning probably quite large numbers. And
Speaker 6: the idea of a fifteen minute competition to turn a
Speaker 6: bowl all using the same size piece of timber, the
Speaker 6: same type of timber and similar lathes would actually be
Speaker 6: quite good to watch. I have to say it's very
Speaker 6: tempting anyway. The man mone We Two wood Workers Guild
Speaker 6: will be holding that competition on the eighteenth of May.
Speaker 6: I have to say I'm sorely tempted not to participate,
Speaker 6: and like I said, I haven't used Alaye since nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy eight, but to watch it would be great fun. Oh,
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's talk all things
Speaker 6: building and construction. I mentioned changes. I guess to legislation
Speaker 6: we can talk about that, and also from time to time.
Speaker 6: And I suppose as the weather turns from summer to winter,
Speaker 6: we start looking a little bit more critically at how
Speaker 6: well our roofs and our stormwater deals with collecting and
Speaker 6: die erecting the rainfall that lands on our roofs to
Speaker 6: the stormwater system, and so a lot of calls over
Speaker 6: the last little while around. I guess it was a
Speaker 6: system from the nineteen nineties. I guess that seemed it
Speaker 6: was very popular at the time, particularly in developments where
Speaker 6: you had effectively a facire on the outside and then
Speaker 6: you had concealed spouting behind it. So typically when you
Speaker 6: look at a New Zealand house, you've got a bit
Speaker 6: of fashion board and then we clip on some spouting
Speaker 6: on the outside of that. And so many people have
Speaker 6: had troubles with it, whether the capacity is not right,
Speaker 6: the number of down pipes is not sufficient anymore, and
Speaker 6: so on and so forth, and what the systems are.
Speaker 6: A couple of people of text and said, hey, look
Speaker 6: I've got it that I've kind of solved the problem
Speaker 6: or alleviated the problem installing overflows and then changed the
Speaker 6: square down pipes into eighty mili round down pipes extra
Speaker 6: downpipe where it was easy to connect to the existing
Speaker 6: stormwater drainage. This released the pressure on the system. Problem solved,
Speaker 6: says Bushy. And he said he followed up with them
Speaker 6: to install an extra downpipe close to the valleys, as
Speaker 6: that's where the highest volume of water comes down. Which
Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense, isn't it, Because what you're
Speaker 6: talking about with the valley is where two pictures of
Speaker 6: the roof combine their stormwater collection into a valley and
Speaker 6: then shoot that down towards the spouting. So that's where
Speaker 6: you're going to have a lot a concentrated amount of
Speaker 6: water coming down. So if you install a downpipe near
Speaker 6: to that, if you can the only kind of And
Speaker 6: I was looking at a roof the other day, which
Speaker 6: you know, to nineteen sixties building, and they had one
Speaker 6: down pipe on one side of the house and one
Speaker 6: down pipe on the other. And we're talking a building
Speaker 6: of maybe a roof space of sort of one hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty odd square meters with two down pipes and
Speaker 6: a long way to run, you know, and that's not
Speaker 6: going to be great. But then the challenge is, Okay,
Speaker 6: if I wanted to add an extra downpipe, I've got
Speaker 6: to connect that to the storm water, which might mean
Speaker 6: having to drill through the basement and sling a new
Speaker 6: down pipe underneath and collect up. And then I've still
Speaker 6: only got one connection point. The idea of digging up
Speaker 6: the storm water in the ground and running a whole
Speaker 6: new pipe. Suddenly it becomes a much bigger job. So
Speaker 6: there can be some challenges. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 6: Let's get into it, Tony. Good morning, Hello Tony.
Speaker 17: Oh yes, sorry, how are you breakfast?
Speaker 6: Fair enough to?
Speaker 17: Yeah? Look, I've got one hundred year old house and
Speaker 17: at the back of the property is a garage right
Speaker 17: on the boundary. It's sort of been converted into a
Speaker 17: rumpus room sleep out sort of story. Yes, it's plaid
Speaker 17: in five the light and because.
Speaker 6: Boundary, you sure it's fiber light not an asbestos type material.
Speaker 17: Well, either way, I know what you mean, okay. And
Speaker 17: because it's on the boundary. We don't really see it,
Speaker 17: but I had a look the other day and some
Speaker 17: of the sheets are cracked and broken and things like that.
Speaker 17: It has about fifteen mills of jib board on the
Speaker 17: studs and then the i'll call it fiber light there
Speaker 17: has been stuck onto that, like nailed through into the
Speaker 17: stud work.
Speaker 6: So there's plaster board on the outside of the framing
Speaker 6: and then the sheathing over the top of that.
Speaker 17: Yes, I presume because it's on it's on the boundary
Speaker 17: that it's probably fire rated.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 17: Yeah, Okay, So I don't want to reclad. Can I
Speaker 17: Can I get new fiber light and stick it on
Speaker 17: top of the existing stuff that's there? And if I
Speaker 17: do that, what what do I need to glue it
Speaker 17: with any.
Speaker 6: And I presume this is just to make the building
Speaker 6: more durable. This isn't to turn it into a habitable
Speaker 6: space or anything like that.
Speaker 4: It's going to.
Speaker 17: I'm just concerned because the sheets are cracked and all
Speaker 17: somebody's gone to before and tried to repair it and
Speaker 17: they've just sort of squirted group everywhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I suppose I would. My caution would
Speaker 6: be around, do you know what you're dealing with in
Speaker 6: terms of the cladding. This is just from a safety
Speaker 6: point of view, so I think to be sure that
Speaker 6: you're not inadvertently going to cause us exposure to asbestos,
Speaker 6: I would take a small sample off, put it into
Speaker 6: a plastic bags a plot bag, take it down to
Speaker 6: a laboratory and get it tested in terms of whether
Speaker 6: or not it's acm SO an asbestos containing material. Given
Speaker 6: the vintage of it, it's likely to have asbestos in it.
Speaker 6: And the only reason I'm cautious around that is that inevitably,
Speaker 6: if you're going to fix an other type of sheathing
Speaker 6: over the top of it, like another fiber cement sheet
Speaker 6: for example, you're going to have to penetrate that existing one,
Speaker 6: so drill through, for example, and when you drill through,
Speaker 6: you'll create dust. That dust is fibers that could become airborne, right,
Speaker 6: So either you're going to breathe it in or it's
Speaker 6: going to fall on the ground and potentially someone else
Speaker 6: will be in contact with it. So I think it's
Speaker 6: really important to do the testing to determine what it
Speaker 6: is that you're dealing with. If it is asbestos, then
Speaker 6: you can carry on and do the work, but you
Speaker 6: need to then control the risk of exposure to the asbestos.
Speaker 6: So let's say let's say you had it tested and
Speaker 6: it doesn't have any asbestos in it. I would think
Speaker 6: that you'd slightly scuff the surface. Is it painted or
Speaker 6: not painted? It's being painted, it's being painted, okay. So
Speaker 6: the issue is if you put some adhesive onto the paint,
Speaker 6: it'll stick to the paint. But we don't know if
Speaker 6: this paint's going to stay stuck to the she thing, right,
Speaker 6: so you might want to scuff it or even you know,
Speaker 6: just remove the paint coding where you're going to apply
Speaker 6: some adhesive, or you just use fixings, right, So determine
Speaker 6: where the studs are and the nogs are if it's
Speaker 6: got nogs, and then go okay, And I would probably
Speaker 6: set my sheets up in such a way that they
Speaker 6: don't match the existing one, so overlap by half. So
Speaker 6: if you've got the sheets at twelve hundred and the
Speaker 6: studs at six hundred centers, offset them so that your
Speaker 6: new sheet laps over the join and the old one,
Speaker 6: so they're staggered it. You know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 6: So then I would probably just clean the surface down
Speaker 6: if if you think it will adhere, you could put
Speaker 6: some dobs of sealant onto it. Otherwise I'd get the
Speaker 6: new sheets, set them up, offset, fix them through with
Speaker 6: maybe a stain you know, just go for a stainless steel,
Speaker 6: even a panhead, right, don't try and hide their fixings
Speaker 6: so you're not drilling through and trying to countersink it.
Speaker 6: And then just fix your new sheets over the top
Speaker 6: of the old ones, and just a silicon bead in
Speaker 6: the joint because you know it's a double layer of
Speaker 6: waterproofing it's unlikely to leak. And then fix a new
Speaker 6: sheet over the top silicon the joints, paint it and
Speaker 6: job done.
Speaker 17: And what's what adhesive would you use if you're going
Speaker 17: to go.
Speaker 6: I mean, something as simple as max bond would probably work.
Speaker 6: I know I've pretty much started using them. There's a
Speaker 6: Pseudle product called fix All which I find really really good,
Speaker 6: so pseud Ale or Gorilla fix all. So fix All
Speaker 6: is really good.
Speaker 9: Thank you very much, good luck.
Speaker 6: Take care of it. But you know, just just so
Speaker 6: I can sleep at night, make sure you do the testing, eh, yes, please,
Speaker 6: all right, all of this, thanks take care, sir, oh
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty eighty the number to call. It's let
Speaker 6: me see seventeen minutes after seven Catherine, Good morning, Yes,
Speaker 6: good morning Pete.
Speaker 18: Hello, my neighbor and I were wandering. We've had a
Speaker 18: section sold just across the road from us, or down
Speaker 18: the road further. There's been those you know, little shoe
Speaker 18: boxes built two stories high. And then somebody told us that, oh,
Speaker 18: how I say this quickly? Well, anyway, can can three
Speaker 18: storied buildings be built?
Speaker 6: Still?
Speaker 8: Yes? Oh, but.
Speaker 6: It's always slightly more complex than that. So funny. I
Speaker 6: was reading an article yesterday. So some of this comes
Speaker 6: out from the planning regulations around medium density, right, And
Speaker 6: so if you cast your mind back a little while ago,
Speaker 6: when Labor was in power, they actually did like a
Speaker 6: bipad partisan agreement with National to say, what we want
Speaker 6: to do is introduce legislation that will allow three story
Speaker 6: buildings to be built on typical residential sites without necessarily
Speaker 6: requiring a resource consent, which, to be fair, I thought
Speaker 6: was madness and would lead to some terrible outcomes. And
Speaker 6: I was surprised that it got bipartisan support. Now that
Speaker 6: now has been rescinded, so that I think at the
Speaker 6: moment there's still requirement for a resource consent, but in
Speaker 6: most of our urban areas there is a move to intensification, right,
Speaker 6: So we want to have more people living closer to transport,
Speaker 6: hubs and facilities and so on, and one way of
Speaker 6: doing that is to take three bedroom cottage off and
Speaker 6: put on multi units. And in some cases it was
Speaker 6: like you could do that pretty much anywhere unless it
Speaker 6: was like a special heritage zone. To be fair, it
Speaker 6: feels like that legislation is in a little bit of
Speaker 6: a state of flux, but more and more parts of
Speaker 6: large urban environments can have that. This for you, if
Speaker 6: you go to the council website, your local council website,
Speaker 6: you should be able to bring up planning legislation. I
Speaker 6: suspect that if you've found that further down the street
Speaker 6: they've been able to do it, then chances are they
Speaker 6: might be able to do it next to you. But
Speaker 6: there are when you go onto the council websites, this
Speaker 6: would be true right across the country. You can see
Speaker 6: what the urban zones are, how they're divided up, and
Speaker 6: so there's there's some urban zones that are quite specifically
Speaker 6: one dwelling per site, right and that can't change. But
Speaker 6: there are other urban zones which are mixed residential or
Speaker 6: designed for intensification. And then in those areas, yes, people
Speaker 6: can do multi story buildings. Three story buildings are increasingly
Speaker 6: common and you might end up with three or four
Speaker 6: right next to your house. Yes, it's possible. God yeah,
Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, obviously I'm a bit more
Speaker 6: familiar with Auckland because that's where I live and I
Speaker 6: drive around and there are lots of these developments happening.
Speaker 18: Can apply the individual house go through be built through stories.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, if the planning legislation allows for it. You know,
Speaker 6: you could get a planner to consult for you. But
Speaker 6: I think it's actually pretty straightforward. If you go to
Speaker 6: the council websites, search through the planning legislation into your address,
Speaker 6: into the GIS, which is an online tool, and that
Speaker 6: will show you all sorts of things about where services
Speaker 6: are located, what natural hazards might be. I know, for
Speaker 6: Auckland Council, for example, they've updated or they've created a
Speaker 6: new platform that allows you to see whether you're in
Speaker 6: a flood zone or what the impact of flooding has
Speaker 6: been that's been fascinating. I find it fascinating to look
Speaker 6: at that, and it's updated data, so it's based on
Speaker 6: you know, recent events that have indicated that perhaps zones
Speaker 6: that are likely to be impacted by flooding are much
Speaker 6: more extensive than we might have expected in the past.
Speaker 6: So that'll be in there, and that's the sort of
Speaker 6: thing that might prevent development, you know, if counsel might say, well,
Speaker 6: actually that area there is in fact now flood prone.
Speaker 6: So yes, you could build, but your floor level has
Speaker 6: to be higher, in which case the building then might
Speaker 6: exceed heightened relation to boundary, and therefore you could do
Speaker 6: two stories but not three stories. But there is a
Speaker 6: lot of detail available online if you want to take
Speaker 6: the time to sort of go through it, or like
Speaker 6: I say, you could ring a planner and just go, hey,
Speaker 6: what's likely to happen? I guess. The other thing that
Speaker 6: sometimes comes as a shock to home owners or property
Speaker 6: owners is that those sorts of buildings can be built
Speaker 6: and you actually don't get a say in it. So
Speaker 6: some resource consents are not notifiable or non notifiable, in
Speaker 6: which case developer property developer can go to council make
Speaker 6: an application with a resource consent and they can grant
Speaker 6: that without having to consult with neighbors, in which case
Speaker 6: you don't actually have a lot of ground for objection.
Speaker 6: Every now and then, some residential developments require the agreement
Speaker 6: of a neighbor, so you know, they might say, well, look,
Speaker 6: actually it's it's slightly too high in that corner. Could
Speaker 6: you sign off on it? And then you could sign
Speaker 6: off on it, but you could also decline it, and
Speaker 6: then they'd have to go through a more extensive process
Speaker 6: to try and get permission for it. So not necessarily
Speaker 6: a simple answer. But the you know, planning legislation is
Speaker 6: quite complex and it deals with so many kind of
Speaker 6: moving parts and literally you know, again, if you take
Speaker 6: the time and go and have a look on the
Speaker 6: on the planning maps, you might find that, you know,
Speaker 6: houses on one side of the street are zoned you
Speaker 6: know for intensification or medium density, and how on the
Speaker 6: other side of the street will be restricted to single
Speaker 6: dwellings per site, or one end of a street will
Speaker 6: be zoned for intensification and the other end of the
Speaker 6: street won't be.
Speaker 7: Oh thank you for that information. I will pop on
Speaker 7: line and have.
Speaker 3: A look.
Speaker 6: Quite the gis in particular and I use the Augland
Speaker 6: Council one, you know, seemingly fairly regularly, but I'm sure
Speaker 6: most councils around the country will have that information available online.
Speaker 7: Okay on an Aorkland anyway.
Speaker 6: Okay, just go to the Auckland Council website and navigate
Speaker 6: your away from there.
Speaker 13: Oh, thank you so much, Pete, Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: A little nice to talk to you. Thank you, Catherine.
Speaker 6: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
Speaker 6: to call? Had a couple of texts. You know, we
Speaker 6: talked about roofing, but some pieces someone has texed through
Speaker 6: had no idea that the Roofing Association of New Zealand existed.
Speaker 6: I've mentioned them a number of times. I've been involved
Speaker 6: with a couple of their events. I got to know
Speaker 6: some of the people involved with the Roofing Association over
Speaker 6: the years. It's a this is where I really do
Speaker 6: support these sorts of professional bodies, let's say, or trade
Speaker 6: organization bodies, whether it's Master Plumbers, the Roofing Association, New Zealand,
Speaker 6: Institute of Building Surveys, all of these sorts of organizations
Speaker 6: that are there where people can apply for membership. And
Speaker 6: I think particularly in terms of roofing. You know that
Speaker 6: I think there's some certainty or surety for consumers. You
Speaker 6: and I that if we're dealing with a contractor who
Speaker 6: has sought and had approval to be a member of
Speaker 6: an organization like this, like the Roofing Association of New Zealand,
Speaker 6: that you know, outside of sort of government or local
Speaker 6: government or LBP control, you've got a body that you
Speaker 6: can go to if you've got an issue with that
Speaker 6: particular contractor. So my advice has always been, if you're
Speaker 6: getting roofing work done of whatever description, just check and
Speaker 6: see whether the person is a member of the Roofing
Speaker 6: Association of New Zealand. That would be my advice. I
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
Speaker 6: twenty coming up, twenty six minutes away, twenty six after seven.
Speaker 6: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call if
Speaker 6: you've got a building question, whether it's the old garage
Speaker 6: reclad or you're talking about planning legislation, we're talking wood turning,
Speaker 6: we're talking landscaping, we're talking the old concealed spouting and
Speaker 6: facia and recent storms and the impact that they've had.
Speaker 6: And I've tuned in with interest to the news story
Speaker 6: around seven o'clock this morning, talking about people and the
Speaker 6: sort of sense of unrest or disquiet that we have
Speaker 6: now with weather events, wondering are our houses okay? And
Speaker 6: I mean, look, there's significant slips and flooding in the
Speaker 6: South Island round Selwyn. I have to say I looked
Speaker 6: at there was a photograph that appeared online of a
Speaker 6: There's been a lot of criticism around the extent of
Speaker 6: the development in Selwyn and its impact potentially on flooding.
Speaker 6: Selwyn's one of the fastest growing regions in the country.
Speaker 6: You can measure that through building consents and so on.
Speaker 6: And the photograph that I saw was a street with
Speaker 6: a whole lot of houses under construction and the portloo
Speaker 6: basically floating down in the flooding. So you'd go, okay,
Speaker 6: they've got problems with flooding right now. What happens when
Speaker 6: the subdivision's finished? Fair question? I think twenty seven minutes
Speaker 6: after seven your news talk set b people of Camp
Speaker 6: with you this morning. The lines are open. The number
Speaker 6: to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty met.
Speaker 1: Twice God was but maybe called Pete first, Peter Wolfcamp.
Speaker 4: The resident Builder News Talk sa'd be.
Speaker 6: Your news talk se be open line on all things
Speaker 6: building and construction. Pete, I think you baffled, Catherine, I
Speaker 6: hope not. Most people don't understand there's a difference between
Speaker 6: a resource consent and a building consent. That's from bill. Yeah.
Speaker 6: In fact, yes, I had a similar discussion with someone
Speaker 6: yesterday actually in terms of a resource consent issued for
Speaker 6: a fairly extensive renovation in a heritage area, and that
Speaker 6: council were not signing off on the resource consent at
Speaker 6: the end of the bill because allegedly one of the
Speaker 6: elements that was included in the resource consent was not
Speaker 6: done as per the resource consent. So try and do
Speaker 6: this as simply as I can. So if you're doing
Speaker 6: a development where you have to get a resource consent
Speaker 6: before you can get building consent, So typically if it's
Speaker 6: in a heritage zone for example, or if you're doing
Speaker 6: intensification or subdivisions that sort of thing, there'll be a
Speaker 6: resource consent that needs to be issued by the council
Speaker 6: prior to you being You have to get the resource
Speaker 6: consent before you get the building consent. You get the
Speaker 6: building consent, you go ahead. You do the work, you
Speaker 6: get your final inspection. If you pass the final inspection,
Speaker 6: you can submit for a CCC, so a code compliance
Speaker 6: certificate at the end of the project. I don't know
Speaker 6: whether you can get your code of compliance without having
Speaker 6: the resource consent signed off. So, for example, with a
Speaker 6: resource consent, there might be a requirement to ensure that
Speaker 6: the impermeable and permeable areas are set down. It's a
Speaker 6: certain amount of site coverage that you're allowed to do.
Speaker 6: And so when you've finished the development, you go back
Speaker 6: to council, ask the resource consents Compliance Monitoring officer to
Speaker 6: come out with the resource consent details and look at
Speaker 6: the project and go, okay, is the driveway the width
Speaker 6: that we said that it was permissible in terms of
Speaker 6: impermeable or if the driveway was going to be permeable,
Speaker 6: has it been done as permeable as their sufficient planting
Speaker 6: the fences as? But whatever the regulations around the resource
Speaker 6: consent are. In this case, it was a heritage issue
Speaker 6: around chimneys. So then they'll sign off the resource consent.
Speaker 6: And I'm pretty sure you can't get your coded clients
Speaker 6: until the resource consent has been signed off. So if
Speaker 6: there are conditions in the resource consent. You have to
Speaker 6: prove that you've met them and then the building will
Speaker 6: be compliant. So yeah, there is there is some power
Speaker 6: in the resource consent as well. Oh, eight hundred and
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number to call Gail hellelou there ah.
Speaker 19: Hi, I only heard the second part of that call
Speaker 19: regarding fixing over asbestos cladding. So be question was that
Speaker 19: for a garage.
Speaker 6: It was for a garage. It was an older garage.
Speaker 6: It's used as kind of a sort of a rumpus room,
Speaker 6: not really habitable space. They're not trying to upgrade it
Speaker 6: into a habitable space, which would require a building consent.
Speaker 6: It's just it's starting to get some cracks in it,
Speaker 6: and what's a solution. Well, one solution is to just
Speaker 6: sheath right over the top of it. But at the
Speaker 6: same time, and I've had a couple of texts and yeah,
Speaker 6: people going off, why don't you take it off and
Speaker 6: do it properly and all the rest of it. Well,
Speaker 6: in some cases just putting it over is an acceptable solution.
Speaker 6: It's an official term. I'm not suggesting this is an
Speaker 6: official way of doing it, but you know, every now
Speaker 6: and then we do stuff in building that it might
Speaker 6: not be compliant or whatever or technically part of the rules,
Speaker 6: but it works, right, So adding she thing over the
Speaker 6: top of an old garage is one way of fixing
Speaker 6: the problem.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 19: Okay, my daughter's brought up a two story house and
Speaker 19: the bottom part of it's breaking. The top parts is
Speaker 19: festos that needs recreating, and I did suggest to her
Speaker 19: maybe you can fix it over top of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, except I think if that sort of thing, I
Speaker 6: think you'd be you'd be struggling to do that and
Speaker 6: do it as repairs and maintenance under Schedule one of
Speaker 6: the Building Act, right, So I would I'd probably get
Speaker 6: some advice either from building survey or go directly to council.
Speaker 6: But I don't feel that you would be able to
Speaker 6: just go, hey, look, it's essentially it's like a flat
Speaker 6: fiber cement or is it a profiled material plaid shadow
Speaker 6: clads not asbestos?
Speaker 11: Oh, isn't it?
Speaker 9: Maybe?
Speaker 20: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think go and get it tested. And the reason
Speaker 6: for the reclad is that the cladding is no longer
Speaker 6: weather tight.
Speaker 13: Correct.
Speaker 19: Yeah, the previous ogners have just let it run down
Speaker 19: so much. You know, people mad how they do that?
Speaker 6: Look it happens, and it's not terribly uncommon. I think, yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: and look, if they were going to reclaud I think,
Speaker 6: I mean there are This is just to throw something
Speaker 6: else into the mix. There's quite a lot of sort
Speaker 6: of development going on around. It's driven by re the
Speaker 6: desire to add more insulation to existing houses.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: So you know, anything prior to nineteen seventy eight probably
Speaker 6: doesn't have any insulation in the exterior walls. Some of
Speaker 6: the insulation would be poor quality, et cetera. So typically
Speaker 6: we kind of pull off linings and add insulation into
Speaker 6: the existing cavities in the wall. There are also now
Speaker 6: some systems being developed where the insulation is added to
Speaker 6: the exterior of the building. So you leave the old
Speaker 6: line of the old cladding on, you add battens and
Speaker 6: create a cavity on the outside. You fill that cavity
Speaker 6: with insulation, and then you add new sheathing, new pladding
Speaker 6: to the exterior. One of the systems I've seen is
Speaker 6: one called Parker wrap. So yeah, Parker as in wearing
Speaker 6: a part so pa ka Parker Wrap. There might be
Speaker 6: some other systems out there as well, but this is
Speaker 6: a new system where you go actually let's leave what
Speaker 6: we've got intact, right, because it's quite disruptive pulling off
Speaker 6: all linings and all the rest of it. We'll leave
Speaker 6: it intact, and maybe we'll upgrade the joinery, but we'll
Speaker 6: add new insulation on the exterior and new exterior cladding.
Speaker 6: And so that type of system might also be a
Speaker 6: solution for your daughter.
Speaker 19: Product look into that, because I did think it because
Speaker 19: I have heard you talking about that before, and she
Speaker 19: was wondering about having to replace windows then as well.
Speaker 6: But you don't necessarily have to. I mean, obviously you
Speaker 6: need to do some detailing around the flashings, how you
Speaker 6: make that junction weather tight. But you know, if you've
Speaker 6: got old, poor quality joinery with single glazing, then yeah,
Speaker 6: maybe replacing it a big step towards getting a more
Speaker 6: higher performing house.
Speaker 19: Yeah, she wants. She's thinking of doing that also, it's
Speaker 19: just with the budget. Can afford it all?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 19: So another quick question this quick she's what large windows
Speaker 19: because it was architecturally designed, so she I know, you
Speaker 19: can't alter the woods, but if she wants to make
Speaker 19: them shorter, she says, it's a bit like a fish
Speaker 19: bowl and it'll be cheaper if she can get smaller windows.
Speaker 19: About altering the woods, do you need a consent of that?
Speaker 6: No? No, not really. I wonder whether making the windows
Speaker 6: small it means having to extend your cladding right to
Speaker 6: fill up the gap. So if it's a two and
Speaker 6: a half meter wide window and you decide to make
Speaker 6: it eighteen hundred, you've got six hundred of extra cladding
Speaker 6: that you're going to install, which means then you're doing
Speaker 6: cladding and cladding and weather tightness typically triggers a requirement
Speaker 6: for a building consent, but you know, you could you
Speaker 6: could have that discussion with counsel around Look, I'm just
Speaker 6: I'm adding like for like cladding, although in this instance
Speaker 6: you don't want to do like for like because you're
Speaker 6: actually thinking about recladding.
Speaker 19: M she'll do it properly, properly with everything else the
Speaker 19: window side, Whether that can be a dramat to make
Speaker 19: them well.
Speaker 6: It will make the building consent simpler because you're not
Speaker 6: having to do any you know, design around the span
Speaker 6: of the lintels and that sort of thing if you're
Speaker 6: making them smaller. And you're right, and I think what
Speaker 6: she's probably picked up on is something that you know,
Speaker 6: I mean I know that New Zealand we love the idea.
Speaker 6: If we've got a view, we want to maximize it, right,
Speaker 6: and typically we maximize it by installing joinery, you know,
Speaker 6: large bits of glazing, which is awesome, but then we've
Speaker 6: also got to compensate for the fact that, you know,
Speaker 6: we can get a certain amount of performance out of
Speaker 6: our glazing, but it's not anywhere near the performance from
Speaker 6: a wall that's well insulated. So yeah, part of it's a.
Speaker 19: Good solution just well, yeah, the windows are so expensive
Speaker 19: now as well.
Speaker 6: That's an interesting point too. Yeah, if you're putting in
Speaker 6: smaller windows, you'll drive down the cost. I mean that's
Speaker 6: a balancing, isn't it. You know, you we want warmth
Speaker 6: from the sun. But then now we're talking about lots
Speaker 6: of our new builds being overheated. I think a lot
Speaker 6: of that is poor design, lack of shading, those sorts
Speaker 6: of things. Certainly lack of any actual active ventilation inside
Speaker 6: houses that as we build increasingly airtight, we need to ventilate.
Speaker 6: We need to ventilate, right, So fascinating all Yeah, I
Speaker 6: know it opens a whole can of but it's great. Yes, alright, Hey,
Speaker 6: lovely to chat with you, take care, go by thing
Speaker 6: you and news talks be twenty minutes away from eight.
Speaker 4: Doing other house storting the garden.
Speaker 1: Asked Fete for a hand the resident builder with peta wolfcab.
Speaker 4: Call eight hundred eight news talks be your.
Speaker 6: News talks, he'd be, and the lines are open. Oh,
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call. Robert,
Speaker 6: good morning to you, Hey.
Speaker 8: Good morning. Yeah, I've got the property. Whether I told
Speaker 8: the well years ago when.
Speaker 6: This Robert, you might have you radio on in the background,
Speaker 6: which will be a bit stracting off there you go.
Speaker 13: Mm hm.
Speaker 8: Anyway, I'm on the on the on the river side
Speaker 8: of the Foul River, and just as what I am,
Speaker 8: because the water is and all the some water is
Speaker 8: because I've got the two main sewer drains on and
Speaker 8: main where everything, and sometimes they get blocked up, but
Speaker 8: they're not blocked up. Only the drains. They're not the
Speaker 8: old clear pipe drains and they used to do drain.
Speaker 8: And I know that the old clay pipe drinks are
Speaker 8: all right, but it's the ground moves that sort of
Speaker 8: do move as well, and that's all blocked up under
Speaker 8: the water. It is all a rain water just as well.
Speaker 8: It's a I've got a concrete wall at the side
Speaker 8: and it's just running over the top down into the river.
Speaker 20: Right.
Speaker 8: Wrung the count I wrung.
Speaker 11: The Count's suffered.
Speaker 8: They said they'll get back to me and get back
Speaker 8: to me, but they're getting back to me.
Speaker 6: I think it's important to note that, you know, drainage
Speaker 6: on your own property is your responsibility, it's not counsel's responsibility.
Speaker 6: So you know, if it's catchment from your own property,
Speaker 6: as a property owner, we're responsible for its control and discharge.
Speaker 8: Well I know that, But the thing is this is
Speaker 8: from other properties government, from up across across the across
Speaker 8: the way. Yes, and to put all these new where
Speaker 8: this old lady lived across the road, across the folders
Speaker 8: and the bill is five plats there. So that's not
Speaker 8: what have been helping anything either.
Speaker 6: I mean, typically, you know, developers as part of the
Speaker 6: development have to you know, upgrade systems. Sometimes. I'm aware
Speaker 6: of a couple of cases where developer, if you're wanting
Speaker 6: to add let's say three townhouses where there was one
Speaker 6: old house and there's no connection to the storm water,
Speaker 6: they have to come out and down the road and
Speaker 6: into a council stormwater line and in some cases they
Speaker 6: have to pay to upgrade that as well. So you know,
Speaker 6: ideally when that development took place, the developer should have
Speaker 6: ensued or should have been made to ensure that the
Speaker 6: stormwater discharge from the property can be controlled. Now it's
Speaker 6: quite possible that I.
Speaker 8: Can't understand why the counselor to build these five new
Speaker 8: flats just way opposite more or less my property when
Speaker 8: it was a single Houseboy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, that's that's a much bigger is
Speaker 6: in terms of town planning and intensification and housing affordability
Speaker 6: and so on. And I mean, look, I think as
Speaker 6: a country, as a you know, individual cities, we're going
Speaker 6: to need to intensify, right. I don't like the idea
Speaker 6: just spreading out further and further into the countryside. We
Speaker 6: want more people, ideally living in good quality housing and
Speaker 6: well planned subdivisions and so on inside our existing urban boundaries.
Speaker 6: And yes, that's going to mean where there was one house,
Speaker 6: there is now going to be three, four or five houses.
Speaker 6: So that that's where planning legislation, if it's good, will
Speaker 6: help with that. Look in terms of solving the problem
Speaker 6: for you you know, if it's old terra cotta pipe
Speaker 6: type drainage that you've got, and that's quite common in
Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of New Zealand houses, it just reaches
Speaker 6: the end of its life and probably the only solution
Speaker 6: is rip it out and replace it, or in some
Speaker 6: cases you can do sleeving just to ensure that there's
Speaker 6: no see pitch out of that. But and neighbors do
Speaker 6: have an obligation to control storm water. It's unfortunate that
Speaker 6: council aren't more helpful with that because they really should be.
Speaker 6: Thanks for you. Call Robert all the very best with that, Paul,
Speaker 6: Good morning to you.
Speaker 11: Yes, good morning, Peter, how are you very well?
Speaker 9: Thanks?
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 11: Oh, it's an pretty simple one. I recently Well, first
Speaker 11: of all, I'm basically be paid a wheelchair bound and
Speaker 11: I got someone to put in a three three meter
Speaker 11: good old fashioned tin galvanized shed.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 11: Now, the roof, of course, is just two pitches, one
Speaker 11: on each side, and it's corrugated time on top of
Speaker 11: it is a camping right.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 11: Now, I'm in Northland and we get some fairly strong
Speaker 11: winds and the storms, and when that happens, the rain
Speaker 11: blows up yep, men corrigations and under the ridge because
Speaker 11: there is no flashing. Yes, how can we sort this out?
Speaker 6: So typical process for roofing when you come up to
Speaker 6: a ridge like that is you actually turn the trough
Speaker 6: of the sheet up before you put the flashing on,
Speaker 6: which you know, if it's corrugated, you use like a
Speaker 6: spanner or something like that, and you take the trough
Speaker 6: and you turn it up. What that does is provides
Speaker 6: a little dam so wind blow and rain hits that.
Speaker 6: And you know, in most instances mystand that, Yeah, so
Speaker 6: that that's typically what you do. So you take the
Speaker 6: ridge cap off, you turn up the troughs of all
Speaker 6: of the sheets. The other thing you can do is
Speaker 6: before you put the ridge cap back down on there,
Speaker 6: you can get like a foam profiled filler that you
Speaker 6: can put down. Yeah, just a foam. It'll come in
Speaker 6: the different whether it's corrugated or trapezoidal or whatever it is.
Speaker 11: You put that in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's already profiled, right, so it's designed to
Speaker 6: match the profile of the roofing iron that you're using.
Speaker 6: Put that on just up from the bottom of the flashing,
Speaker 6: the lower edge of the flashing, and again that'll stop
Speaker 6: water being driven in by the wind.
Speaker 11: The bottom edge of the non flashing.
Speaker 6: Is what you mean of the top flashing. So if
Speaker 6: you've got a ridge flashing that spans both sides, you
Speaker 6: do a layer on both sides as well as turning
Speaker 6: up the trough of the sheet.
Speaker 11: No, I understand this is just a straight flat panel.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So sometimes with those ridge cappings they're not
Speaker 6: profiled as well, so they don't go down into the sheet.
Speaker 6: And again you've got quite a big gap there, you know.
Speaker 6: That's where again typically on a roof, your head flashing
Speaker 6: or your your ridge flashing will have soft edge on
Speaker 6: it that you can push down into the profile, or
Speaker 6: in some cases you cut the flashing to match the
Speaker 6: profile to stop exactly. Yeah, we don't use that anymore.
Speaker 6: It's a soft edge. Yeah, yeah, it should be available, Paul,
Speaker 6: good luck with all of that. Sounds like a relatively
Speaker 6: simple fact, but sounds like you might need someone to
Speaker 6: help you with that. Good luck with that one. It
Speaker 6: is coming up nine minutes away from eight.
Speaker 1: Whether you're peaty with ceiling fixing with feds or wondering
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter
Speaker 1: wolf Cap call on.
Speaker 4: The resident builder on you Dogs B.
Speaker 6: News Talks B Pete just listening to this is a
Speaker 6: good one, just after Paul's sorry Robert's conversation about drainage
Speaker 6: Peat just listening to the strainage question. When a council
Speaker 6: has given consent for a neighboring property to raise its land,
Speaker 6: which then causes the neighbors to flood, are they responsible
Speaker 6: for this?
Speaker 21: Look?
Speaker 6: Getting them to be responsible or take responsibility is probably
Speaker 6: quite difficult. But I would have thought that I might
Speaker 6: be a bit naive, or I might be overly optimistic,
Speaker 6: but I would have thought that if they got permission
Speaker 6: to raise the ground level, that they would also then
Speaker 6: have in place some design to cope with overflow. Right,
Speaker 6: So you know, whether that's catchment from the roof area,
Speaker 6: it's got to be directed into storm water. If it's
Speaker 6: permeable or impermeable surfaces, catchment from that needs to be
Speaker 6: directed to storm water. The design ideally shouldn't then direct
Speaker 6: stormwater or groundwater on even ground, just rainwater that lands
Speaker 6: on the ground to a neighboring property. It really shouldn't,
Speaker 6: but let's not saying it might not. Oh eight hundred
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number, Maggie, Hello there.
Speaker 22: Good morning. I live in a seventies built home. The
Speaker 22: frontage has a balcony across the front, which would be
Speaker 22: about twenty eight meters. On their balcony is pieces of decking.
Speaker 22: The grooved decking. I'm not sure what you call it.
Speaker 22: I noticed that some of the joints in the decking
Speaker 22: are now like shrinking and then starting to come up,
Speaker 22: curl up like a stale sandwich, and the screws are
Speaker 22: no longer holding that dicking down. Have you come across
Speaker 22: any problems like this?
Speaker 6: So I presume it's decking that's a buttered together. So
Speaker 6: it's not like tongue and groove or anything. It's just
Speaker 6: regular decking.
Speaker 22: It's regular decking.
Speaker 6: We're going to run into the news at eight o'clock
Speaker 6: and I'm trying not to crash into it like I
Speaker 6: normally do, as if it's unexpected. So stay listening and
Speaker 6: I'll it's a pretty simple facts. I'll address that straight
Speaker 6: after New Sport and Weather top of the hour at
Speaker 6: eight o'clock here at News Talks c B.
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or Squeaky floor Get the right advice from
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfgare the resident builder on news TALKSB Your.
Speaker 6: New Stalks c B. And just before the news we
Speaker 6: were talking to Maggie about the decking and some of
Speaker 6: the joints lifting and the boards shrinking. Maggie, roughly, how
Speaker 6: old is the decking?
Speaker 22: Not sure, Pete. I've been in the house five years now, yep.
Speaker 22: But it is a seventies house and just looking at it,
Speaker 22: it looks like it may have had some some boards
Speaker 22: replaced at some time. But if we go back to
Speaker 22: original seventies.
Speaker 6: It's getting and that's kin kind of you know, things
Speaker 6: have a lifespan, right, and decking in some cases, you know,
Speaker 6: if it's like, for example, if it was a pine
Speaker 6: decking and it was I don't know, twenty five, twenty
Speaker 6: years old something like that, it's probably getting to the
Speaker 6: end of its life. So at a certain stage you
Speaker 6: might just need to sort of face the fact that
Speaker 6: it just needs replacing. However, if it's more a maintenance
Speaker 6: type thing, and if it's just some screws that are
Speaker 6: coming out, I would simply take those screws out, find
Speaker 6: a longer decking screw and have someone refix it using
Speaker 6: the existing holes with a longer screw that will get
Speaker 6: some bite into the jost below and try and fix
Speaker 6: them down. Some of the boards that have got a
Speaker 6: twist in it that you can't get out, maybe you
Speaker 6: just need to replace them, like for like. But at
Speaker 6: a certain stage, I do wonder whether you might be
Speaker 6: getting to that point where it just needs to be
Speaker 6: lifted and the decking replaced.
Speaker 22: Lived the whole deck, or adjust a.
Speaker 23: Shark.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, that's the thing. You can just replace
Speaker 6: the boards that are particularly twisted, but it will look
Speaker 6: like you know, it'll be a bit piecemeal and bit patchy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a coaler deck, I'm told, Okay, it's.
Speaker 6: A coiler deck. Look if it's I'm just trying to
Speaker 6: think of the last one that I replaced. You know,
Speaker 6: if you get fifteen twenty years, they're pretty close to
Speaker 6: the end of their life by the end. And that's
Speaker 6: no disrespect to the product. It's just they do you know,
Speaker 6: we're out, and when they do, maybe you need to
Speaker 6: replace them. But in the meantime, you could replace the
Speaker 6: boards that are particularly twisted and add some additional fixings
Speaker 6: and that'll at least stop it being a hazard. So
Speaker 6: good luck with that. I hope it works. Out it
Speaker 6: is nine minutes after eight. Does that be a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks ago? Someone rang and was talking about sort
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Speaker 6: you'll get faded aluminium jowinery. Maybe the garage door looks
Speaker 6: a bit dull. So aluminium powder coated surfaces can fade
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Speaker 6: is here to tell us a bit more. Daniel, good morning,
Speaker 6: Good morning Peter, how are you hey? Now, I know
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Speaker 6: n z ZB. A couple of texts come in just
Speaker 6: with regard to decking and that sort of thing as well.
Speaker 6: Hey Pete about to lay a coaler deck. Do I
Speaker 6: have to put oil on it? Or do I wait
Speaker 6: until its silver's off from Nick? I think ideally you
Speaker 6: let it sort of settle down. And the other thing
Speaker 6: with quila is it bleeds right, So make sure that
Speaker 6: wherever you store it is not don't store it on
Speaker 6: the concreteway because I'll get a text in a week
Speaker 6: going I've got the stain on the concrete driveway, make
Speaker 6: sure it's on a on the grass or something like that.
Speaker 6: Let it bleed out onto there before doing the decking.
Speaker 6: If the decking is close to a pathway, make sure
Speaker 6: it doesn't bleed onto that as well. Do the quiler decking.
Speaker 6: I think kind of it's a bit hard at this
Speaker 6: time of year. You might even just leave it for
Speaker 6: the winter and let it sort of weather a little bit.
Speaker 6: It won't change color too much over the winter. Let
Speaker 6: it sort of get rid of all of that sap
Speaker 6: and that sort of thing, and then as soon as
Speaker 6: the weather comes right, I'd give it a really thorough clean,
Speaker 6: like with some raisine deckwash. Clean it thoroughly and then
Speaker 6: apply a coating there. It'll help protect it most definitely.
Speaker 6: If you've got a comment or a question, the lines
Speaker 6: are still open right through it at eight eight thirty
Speaker 6: this morning, when of course we jump into the garden
Speaker 6: with a red climb pass. So feel free to call
Speaker 6: right now on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Murray's
Speaker 6: got a text as well. In a recent storm, a
Speaker 6: section of our fence came down due to the post
Speaker 6: snapping off at ground level. They were concreted in to
Speaker 6: repair them. Would you dig out the old concrete creating
Speaker 6: huge holes to replace or put a new fence post
Speaker 6: beside her in the middle of the space between the
Speaker 6: old posts, Murray, I'll tell you when I finished doing
Speaker 6: exactly that. I don't think i'll get around to it
Speaker 6: this week, but hopefully next week I'm going to. Well,
Speaker 6: they haven't blown over, but it's leaning to such a
Speaker 6: degree that looks really shonky, So I've got to get
Speaker 6: in and dig those out. I'm going to dig them
Speaker 6: out and just put a new post in, because then
Speaker 6: I don't have to change the panel sizes. I'm thinking
Speaker 6: I'll be able to cut through the fixings, lift the
Speaker 6: panels out, take the post out, replace it, and then
Speaker 6: put the panels back in. So look, if you want to,
Speaker 6: you can certainly go and put a new post alongside.
Speaker 6: It might look a little bit odd, but yes, you
Speaker 6: can do it. Or you just have to dig a
Speaker 6: hole and inevitably up putting just a little bit more
Speaker 6: concrete around those holes. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Speaker 6: is the number to call just on the downpipe. And
Speaker 6: this is the time of year that we sort of
Speaker 6: look at storm water and drainage and that sort of thing.
Speaker 6: My neighbor's down my knee, neighbor's garage roof downpipe directs
Speaker 6: the water straight onto the ground next to our driveway.
Speaker 6: The water then runs down our drive and out under
Speaker 6: the house. I've politely raised this and his obligation to
Speaker 6: control his stormwater, but he said that there's nothing he
Speaker 6: can do. Clearly, it's his obligations. What are my options now?
Speaker 6: It is the neighbour's obligation, right, It's quite clear stormwater
Speaker 6: needs to be controlled and having it flooding onto the
Speaker 6: ground is not controlling it. And to be fair, it's
Speaker 6: a flat out lie when he says nothing he can do.
Speaker 6: What he can do is extend his existing storm water
Speaker 6: to collect the downpoort to collect the water from the
Speaker 6: downpipe coming from the garage. It shouldn't just go onto
Speaker 6: the ground. You may well have some luck if you
Speaker 6: go to council and we take a photograph of it
Speaker 6: or a little video of when it's raining, and counsel
Speaker 6: might come and visit and go, you know, at an
Speaker 6: enforcement notice or something like that, or at least inform
Speaker 6: the homeowner of their obligations to control their own stormwater.
Speaker 6: My understanding is that again, certainly in Auckland, they've actually
Speaker 6: had a team out literally walking the streets looking at
Speaker 6: you know, from the road frontage, looking at stormwater discharge.
Speaker 6: And if they see down pipes that are not connected
Speaker 6: or just dispose onto the ground, or stormwater that's not
Speaker 6: connected at all, that sort of thing, they'll they'll go
Speaker 6: and approach the homeowner and go, hey, look, are you
Speaker 6: aware of your obligations? I think that's great to be fair.
Speaker 6: Radio seventeen after eight Lauren, Hello there, Hi, how are you? Hey, Lauren,
Speaker 6: I'm very well.
Speaker 20: And you good. Good, Thank you?
Speaker 24: What's up?
Speaker 19: My question?
Speaker 20: My question to you is, I'm Jessica.
Speaker 24: I'm just in the process of buying a property. It's
Speaker 24: one unit out of a block of cour so it's
Speaker 24: on a cross leaf title.
Speaker 20: Now, back in nineteen eighty two, there was a shed,
Speaker 20: well essentially a sewing room that was actually built on
Speaker 20: the usable land for that unit. Yes, and it was
Speaker 20: permitted and consented and everything like that back then.
Speaker 13: But it wasn't actually added to the pro.
Speaker 6: The flats plan yep yees.
Speaker 20: So it's come back that when we did the valuation
Speaker 20: and the infection, that it's come back that now the
Speaker 20: title is defective.
Speaker 11: Yes, so it's been a few.
Speaker 24: Things that we've had to go through to obviously thort
Speaker 24: that out. But how hard is it going to be
Speaker 24: to like, what's the process to have to add that
Speaker 24: sewing room to the title at a later date?
Speaker 6: Generally it's you have to update to the best one
Speaker 6: of the flats plant right to show the location of that.
Speaker 6: The fact that it's got a building consent is probably
Speaker 6: quite useful because it shows that the building at least
Speaker 6: is compliant. But it's the updating of the So it's
Speaker 6: typically done by a surveyor who will come survey the property,
Speaker 6: add the physical dimensions to the flats plant, and then
Speaker 6: update the title thereafter. If it cost you twenty thousand dollars,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, so, and I've had a
Speaker 6: couple of discussions with people recently around doing that sort
Speaker 6: of thing, and that was the figure, And I to
Speaker 6: be fair, I was a little bit staggered that it
Speaker 6: would cost that much maybe you can do it for less,
Speaker 6: but I'm throwing that figure out to go. It's seemingly
Speaker 6: not inexpensive thing to have done. And I guess you're
Speaker 6: in a position where, if you're thinking about buying the property,
Speaker 6: you'd want to make sure that that defective title was
Speaker 6: updated by the vendor prior to settlement because you don't
Speaker 6: want the cost of that, okay, unless you take the
Speaker 6: risk that you want to purchase, and then you'll do
Speaker 6: it and that the price is reflective on that. But
Speaker 6: I and to be fair, I used to have that
Speaker 6: attitude that, you know, take the risk, purchase the property
Speaker 6: and sort it out. And I think now I've shifted
Speaker 6: my thinking to go, actually, you know what, if there's
Speaker 6: a building that doesn't ever CECC or a defective title,
Speaker 6: make sure that the vendor sorts it out before settlement, right,
Speaker 6: Why would.
Speaker 4: You take the risk?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely definitely.
Speaker 24: Like the other option was to it was to potentially
Speaker 24: take the sewing room down, but it's such a cool room.
Speaker 24: It's all out like it's a great work from home
Speaker 24: space because it's basically it looks like a glorified shed
Speaker 24: that's got a window and everything.
Speaker 6: Look, I can see the benefits of it. Absolutely yeah wow.
Speaker 20: But yeah, twenty grand for that much?
Speaker 6: Well look and I you know, maybe I'm I'm maybe
Speaker 6: that was for something way more complicated, but certainly as
Speaker 6: part of your due diligence, you'd want to go out
Speaker 6: and get some pricing. And typically it is it's a
Speaker 6: surveyor that does the work.
Speaker 24: Right.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, good luck, cool Laura, Then all the best
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Speaker 6: garden with red climb pass. Brian. Hello, Hello there, kay, Brian.
Speaker 23: I was just listening to your program earlier and a
Speaker 23: lady rang up about a the house that has testus
Speaker 23: clouding on the outside possibly has yes, it possibly has. Well.
Speaker 23: I'm in the same sort of situation from the point
Speaker 23: of view that I bought a rental property just after
Speaker 23: the earthquakes in christ Church and basically rented it out.
Speaker 23: It's been rented out for years now. We're in the
Speaker 23: process of doing it up with and one thing that's
Speaker 23: been brought to our attention is that the outside clouding
Speaker 23: is possibly absbestos. Now my question is does that actually
Speaker 23: I mean, it doesn't affect anybody in the home or
Speaker 23: anything like that.
Speaker 8: Does that.
Speaker 23: Well, does it have to be replaced or no? Can
Speaker 23: you just no?
Speaker 6: Simple answer is no to the best of my knowledge.
Speaker 6: So you know, what we're concerned about is that when
Speaker 6: when people alter or adjust that, you know, if you
Speaker 6: drill it or cut it or grind it or send
Speaker 6: it or something like that, then it's a health risk, right,
Speaker 6: and a serious one.
Speaker 23: Yes, that's how I sort of understood.
Speaker 6: But if if it's if it's there and it's intact,
Speaker 6: and you know, you need to be a bit cautious.
Speaker 6: For example, when you're if you clean it and want
Speaker 6: to repaint it, then you don't want to be water
Speaker 6: blasting it. You can wash it to a chemical wash
Speaker 6: and apply another code of paint over it, those sorts
Speaker 6: of things, but there's no requirement to replace it.
Speaker 23: No, That's that's what That's where I wondered.
Speaker 6: Like, it's it's low risk, right, Yes, the riskers when
Speaker 6: you expec when you you break it, cut it, grind it,
Speaker 6: and you expose the fibers and the fibers become friable
Speaker 6: or airborne. That's when the risks, and that's what you
Speaker 6: have to manage.
Speaker 23: Yes, So if we threw a code of paint over it,
Speaker 23: absolutely fine, it's fine. Yeah, it's really all I need,
Speaker 23: you know, because we're going to the place of further
Speaker 23: paint job.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Look, wash it gently, like you know, use a chemical
Speaker 6: treatment on it, wash it, rinse it off, and then
Speaker 6: when it's dry, apply your primary, apply top coat and
Speaker 6: where you go.
Speaker 23: Gotcha all the best, Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Take care see that. And Cheryl, hello there, how you
Speaker 6: do it very well?
Speaker 13: Thank you. Just to thank you to start off that.
Speaker 13: I actually then a few months ago, just as regards
Speaker 13: to my sense, just to put a covering over because
Speaker 13: someone complained about my dog's bagging. So I did the
Speaker 13: advocated thing and it looks great.
Speaker 4: So thank you for that pleasure.
Speaker 13: Look, I've got it so where I am a lot
Speaker 13: of people have been doing there. So we've got all
Speaker 13: these sheds and things. So I've got a so called
Speaker 13: shed or a separate shed on the back of my property,
Speaker 13: so it is separate. I have tanks, so I've got
Speaker 13: a water you know, so I've got a water tank
Speaker 13: the thing for my water. I'm looking at converting the
Speaker 13: shed into something for future you know, possible retment like
Speaker 13: you know and coming for retard. But because of weird
Speaker 13: it is as well as the tanks and the water goes,
Speaker 13: you can actually hear it. So I'm wondering if you
Speaker 13: can't do it stuff sound putting it will actually stop
Speaker 13: that because I hadn't actually slipped out out there. And
Speaker 13: when the water goes, if the toilet blushes from my home,
Speaker 13: you can actually hear it.
Speaker 6: So so it's probably the Is there a pump attached
Speaker 6: to the water tank and you can hear the pump?
Speaker 13: Okay, pump? Yeah, what's the distance between the house as well?
Speaker 6: Right, what's the distance?
Speaker 13: Actually the wall is that on the other side. So
Speaker 13: you've got the suits at the back, the pump's being
Speaker 13: put there, the sheds right next to where it is
Speaker 13: basically like a room next what's really.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would probably look at isolating the sound from
Speaker 6: the pump, right, so you know, building a cover around
Speaker 6: the pump and maybe using something, you know, with an
Speaker 6: effective acoustic performance, like a something that's highly insulated or
Speaker 6: a freezer panel or something. Yeah, soundproof the pump. Don't
Speaker 6: worry about trying to soundproof the house. Soundproof what's making
Speaker 6: the noise and that's the pump.
Speaker 13: Yeah, well it's a shed I'm thinking about because if
Speaker 13: I convert it, you can hear that every time. Yeah,
Speaker 13: because of the punt and working through to the house
Speaker 13: as well when the water's juiced in the house.
Speaker 4: Yes, near the punt.
Speaker 13: Yea.
Speaker 6: I will try sound the pump. Yes, I've got to go.
Speaker 6: But the other thing about, you know, converting the shed
Speaker 6: is that if if it was built as a shed
Speaker 6: and it was never designed to be a habitable space,
Speaker 6: it will need a building consent for the upgrade. Right,
Speaker 6: So you have to prove compliance with a building code,
Speaker 6: especially if you're then going to essentially commercialize it and
Speaker 6: have it as a rental property. It needs to comply
Speaker 6: with the building code, and so any work that you
Speaker 6: do would require a building consent. Right he Oh, let's
Speaker 6: jump into the garden. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 6: If you've got a question, Ford, He'll be available straight
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