WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 04 May 2025 0:00:06.815 --> 0:00:10.655 You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 0:00:10.855 --> 0:00:15.015 from news Talks at b mead Adwice God once but 0:00:15.295 --> 0:00:18.535 maybe called Pete first. Peter wolf Camp the Resident Builder 0:00:18.655 --> 0:00:19.495 News Talk said, be. 0:00:23.335 --> 0:00:29.135 The house sizor even when it's dark, even when the 0:00:29.215 --> 0:00:34.255 grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when. 0:00:34.055 --> 0:00:38.295 The dog is too old to bar, and when you're 0:00:38.295 --> 0:00:44.255 sitting at the table trying not to start scissor home, 0:00:45.455 --> 0:01:00.735 even when we are ben gone, even when you're thereon 0:01:02.175 --> 0:01:07.535 a house sizzle home, even when those goes, even when 0:01:07.535 --> 0:01:10.695 you got around from the ones you love your most. 0:01:12.135 --> 0:01:14.735 Scream on broken paints, feeling from. 0:01:14.695 --> 0:01:19.575 The world, locals vesper when they're going to leaving. 0:01:19.375 --> 0:02:00.895 Neighbor house, even when Wilbur and love, even when you're herellone, well. 0:02:00.975 --> 0:02:03.615 Very very good morning, welcome along to the show. On 0:02:03.735 --> 0:02:07.615 the steep fourth of May, which seems to as the 0:02:07.695 --> 0:02:09.935 fourth fourth of May, fourth of May, the fourth be 0:02:10.095 --> 0:02:13.375 with you. Star Wars has kind of co opted that 0:02:14.175 --> 0:02:16.455 to be fair and to be slightly somber for a moment. 0:02:16.495 --> 0:02:18.975 It's it's a slightly more significant day for me in 0:02:18.975 --> 0:02:22.215 the sense that today marks I think today's the official 0:02:22.295 --> 0:02:24.655 day to remember the end of the Second World warf 0:02:24.735 --> 0:02:27.775 the Dutch community for the Netherlands, and so they'll actually 0:02:27.775 --> 0:02:31.695 be memorial this afternoon that I'll go to so and 0:02:31.815 --> 0:02:34.695 it's a mate's birthday as well, so it's my birthday 0:02:34.695 --> 0:02:37.615 in a couple of days. Anyway, Radio, let's get talking 0:02:37.655 --> 0:02:39.575 about building, because that's what we're here to do. Oh 0:02:39.655 --> 0:02:42.615 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 0:02:43.055 --> 0:02:45.215 The text is up and running as well. That's nine 0:02:45.295 --> 0:02:48.975 two nine two or ZBZB from your mobile phone and 0:02:49.055 --> 0:02:50.655 if you'd like to send me an email, you're more 0:02:50.695 --> 0:02:54.455 than welcome. It's Pete Atnewstalk ZB dot co dot nz. 0:02:55.015 --> 0:02:58.895 So if you have got a project, that's maybe you're 0:02:58.935 --> 0:03:03.175 about to start, or you have started, or you have started. 0:03:03.335 --> 0:03:05.935 And look, let's be blunt. The wheels have come off 0:03:05.935 --> 0:03:09.575 the troll and the thing's plunging into the abyss and 0:03:09.615 --> 0:03:12.935 it's not going particularly well. Maybe I can help you 0:03:12.975 --> 0:03:15.615 with that as well, or perhaps with all of the 0:03:15.695 --> 0:03:18.975 changes to legislation, you're wondering which parts of the rules 0:03:19.015 --> 0:03:21.535 apply to me now. In fact, one of the things 0:03:22.735 --> 0:03:25.255 that I've been trying to get my head around this 0:03:25.295 --> 0:03:29.815 week has been around healthy home standards for heating. And 0:03:29.855 --> 0:03:33.015 then once you read through the legislation, there's some information 0:03:33.055 --> 0:03:35.815 in there that says if your heating requirement is more 0:03:35.855 --> 0:03:39.055 than two point four killer watts, which is not a 0:03:39.095 --> 0:03:44.375 lot to be fair, then basically the only acceptable form 0:03:44.415 --> 0:03:48.255 of heating becomes a heat pump. And so I was 0:03:48.295 --> 0:03:51.375 curious as to why that was the case. Why you 0:03:51.375 --> 0:03:54.375 couldn't use let's say a three killer what heater in 0:03:54.415 --> 0:03:58.215 a relatively small space in order to achieve the heating requirement. 0:03:58.575 --> 0:04:02.055 Why that suddenly was non compliant. So, as part of 0:04:02.095 --> 0:04:05.935 my sort of investigation onto this, ended up talking to 0:04:05.975 --> 0:04:09.535 some peace Pole at ECA, which is the energy efficiency people, 0:04:10.215 --> 0:04:12.135 to a guy who's actually been on the show a 0:04:12.175 --> 0:04:14.215 couple of oh gee, it might have been a year 0:04:14.255 --> 0:04:17.935 ago now who does all of the energy calculations and 0:04:18.015 --> 0:04:20.615 so on. Had a great chat with him. Actually we're 0:04:20.655 --> 0:04:24.095 catching up this week at the Green Building Council Housing 0:04:24.135 --> 0:04:27.495 summit which is on Wednesday, which I'm really looking forward 0:04:27.455 --> 0:04:32.735 to attending. And then and drilled down into why it 0:04:32.895 --> 0:04:36.655 is that that's the requirement, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So there's 0:04:36.655 --> 0:04:39.895 some interesting stuff around. How I suppose what was interesting 0:04:39.895 --> 0:04:42.295 about that is, we've got a piece of legislation which 0:04:42.375 --> 0:04:44.855 ends up being a rule that we all need to 0:04:44.895 --> 0:04:48.335 comply with. But sometimes it's quite interesting to investigate why 0:04:48.375 --> 0:04:55.495 that rule is what it is. So that was kind 0:04:55.535 --> 0:04:57.295 of an interesting thing. It was a nice way to 0:04:57.375 --> 0:05:05.015 distract me from the mind bendingly boring task of standing 0:05:06.375 --> 0:05:10.295 about fifty odd ballisters, each one of it's a you know, 0:05:10.455 --> 0:05:13.255 it's an old villa that I'm working on, and I 0:05:13.295 --> 0:05:15.935 had to pull all the handrail off because they'd started 0:05:15.975 --> 0:05:17.815 to rot and they look pretty shonky, and the top 0:05:17.895 --> 0:05:20.095 rail had rotted and part of the bottom rail had rotted. 0:05:20.415 --> 0:05:23.935 So I ended up dissembling the entire thing, knocking off 0:05:23.975 --> 0:05:28.215 the top, bottom, top and bottom rails, taking the ballisters, 0:05:28.575 --> 0:05:32.615 which were not terribly old but hadn't lasted particularly well, 0:05:33.415 --> 0:05:35.535 and then sending them. And then as I was sort 0:05:35.535 --> 0:05:38.095 of allowing my mind to wander, when I got to 0:05:38.135 --> 0:05:41.175 like ballister number thirty six or something like that out 0:05:41.215 --> 0:05:45.055 of about fifty, trying to count the number of edges 0:05:45.095 --> 0:05:47.975 there are on a turned ballister that you've kind of 0:05:48.015 --> 0:05:49.895 got that square bit at the bottom and then it 0:05:50.015 --> 0:05:52.055 rounds over and then it goes to a little flat 0:05:52.055 --> 0:05:53.335 and then it goes to a divot, and then it 0:05:53.375 --> 0:05:55.575 goes to another flat, and then it goes to another round, 0:05:55.895 --> 0:05:57.655 and then it scollops out, and then it's got that 0:05:57.695 --> 0:06:00.735 sort of belly bit and then it goes to it. 0:06:00.735 --> 0:06:02.935 It's a lot of work old houses. I know why 0:06:02.935 --> 0:06:04.975 we don't build like we did back one hundred and 0:06:04.975 --> 0:06:08.055 something years ago when this house was originally built. Righty Oh, 0:06:08.095 --> 0:06:10.015 if you've got a project and you want to talk 0:06:10.015 --> 0:06:12.575 about it, or some legislation that you want to talk about, 0:06:12.695 --> 0:06:15.855 or new products and ideas that you'd like to talk about, 0:06:16.095 --> 0:06:18.375 the lines are open and we can talk all things 0:06:18.375 --> 0:06:22.735 building and construction. We will do that right through to 0:06:22.815 --> 0:06:26.015 about eight thirty this morning. The Root Climb past as always, 0:06:26.055 --> 0:06:29.415 will join us in the garden as we talk about 0:06:29.415 --> 0:06:31.935 all things gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as 0:06:31.975 --> 0:06:34.775 well from around eight thirty this morning. But now is 0:06:35.015 --> 0:06:38.375 your opporgenity to talk all things building and construction. Oh, 0:06:38.455 --> 0:06:41.255 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 0:06:41.535 --> 0:06:44.375 Plenty to talk about lots and still lots of legislation. 0:06:44.495 --> 0:06:48.855 Big news last week about self certification. I did a 0:06:48.855 --> 0:06:51.015 bit of an interview during the course of the week 0:06:52.575 --> 0:06:55.295 talking about what is likely to happen in terms of 0:06:55.335 --> 0:06:58.815 self certification. If you've missed this in the news, it 0:06:58.855 --> 0:07:03.495 was an announcement by the Construction and Building or Building 0:07:03.495 --> 0:07:07.135 and Construction Minister Chris Penk during the week, an idea 0:07:07.175 --> 0:07:09.255 that they've obviously been working on for a little while 0:07:09.295 --> 0:07:16.215 which will allow essentially selected or nominated building companies to 0:07:16.415 --> 0:07:19.375 sign off their own work. This is in terms of 0:07:19.775 --> 0:07:23.855 you know, inspections that are typically done by council building 0:07:23.895 --> 0:07:27.935 inspectors pre line inspections to ensure that the installation that 0:07:28.135 --> 0:07:30.895 is there, or that the timber is dry enough for lining, 0:07:31.415 --> 0:07:34.295 or that the bracing has been installed. It may not 0:07:34.415 --> 0:07:37.655 be all inspections, there's a bit of a hierarchy to them, 0:07:37.695 --> 0:07:41.295 I think, and it certainly won't be all builders, but 0:07:41.655 --> 0:07:44.415 there will be a provision for some builders who can 0:07:44.575 --> 0:07:48.535 prove that they've got the quality assurance systems in place, 0:07:48.975 --> 0:07:54.775 who have I guess sufficient size to cope with the 0:07:54.935 --> 0:08:00.455 problem of work failing in the future, and insurances that 0:08:00.495 --> 0:08:03.935 will carry on long enough to ensure that consumers are protected. 0:08:03.975 --> 0:08:06.575 So we can talk about that as well. And if 0:08:06.615 --> 0:08:11.455 you're in the industry, I've seen incredibly diverse opinions on this, 0:08:11.575 --> 0:08:14.095 in the sense that there are some who are embracing it. 0:08:14.175 --> 0:08:16.095 I talked to one guy during the course of the 0:08:16.095 --> 0:08:20.895 week whose firm is probably going to be eligible for that, 0:08:22.215 --> 0:08:25.615 and saying, hey, look, that's great. You know we've we've 0:08:25.615 --> 0:08:28.015 got the systems in place. We feel confident that we 0:08:28.015 --> 0:08:32.055 can maintain standards without necessarily having council come in and 0:08:32.055 --> 0:08:35.135 look over our shoulder. And then I've seen posts and 0:08:35.495 --> 0:08:38.375 comments online from people saying this is just going to 0:08:38.375 --> 0:08:41.095 be disastrous. So if you'd like to throw in your opinion, 0:08:41.335 --> 0:08:43.575 happy to hear at Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 0:08:43.655 --> 0:08:46.375 is the number to call, thirteen after six on this 0:08:46.575 --> 0:08:50.375 the fourth of May, Helca. Good morning, Ah, hi. 0:08:50.535 --> 0:08:57.095 Hey, good good. What's this recent storm that's just have fun. Yes, 0:08:57.815 --> 0:09:01.415 I've spoken to some people with wooden houses here in Avancos, 0:09:01.775 --> 0:09:05.295 came in from the west, you know, the storm, and 0:09:05.335 --> 0:09:07.735 they said houses were shaking. 0:09:08.375 --> 0:09:11.415 Yes, So would that affect. 0:09:11.015 --> 0:09:12.455 That our foundations are in. 0:09:12.415 --> 0:09:17.895 The same No, I mean that not this most recent storm, 0:09:17.935 --> 0:09:21.455 but the one that we had over Easter when there 0:09:21.495 --> 0:09:23.695 was a lot of thunder and so on. I mean, 0:09:23.735 --> 0:09:24.095 I'm in. 0:09:24.055 --> 0:09:27.895 An old the one that we're in a hit the skytower. 0:09:28.335 --> 0:09:28.935 Yeah, that one. 0:09:29.935 --> 0:09:32.295 I mean, look, we had some pretty heavy weather this week, 0:09:33.295 --> 0:09:35.855 you know, obviously with some flooding further down the country 0:09:35.975 --> 0:09:40.855 and so on. But yeah, I mean, look, I was 0:09:40.935 --> 0:09:42.815 woken up in the middle of the night by the 0:09:42.855 --> 0:09:46.895 thunderstorms as well, and the house shook, right. So, you know, 0:09:47.095 --> 0:09:51.895 houses are actually designed to move to some degree. Old 0:09:51.935 --> 0:09:55.815 timber houses certainly are, and so the fact that it 0:09:55.895 --> 0:09:58.855 moves a little bit probably doesn't impact on the foundations. 0:09:58.975 --> 0:10:02.175 I think what we tend to see with older houses 0:10:02.295 --> 0:10:05.295 is as we shift from like we've had a pretty 0:10:05.375 --> 0:10:09.335 dry summer to now being kind of saturated. And I 0:10:09.335 --> 0:10:11.775 could feel it in my own house where it just 0:10:11.895 --> 0:10:15.655 felt like the house had absorbed all of this moisture 0:10:16.135 --> 0:10:19.255 that suddenly it was kind of and this is what 0:10:19.815 --> 0:10:22.975 older houses do, and this is where I think sometimes, 0:10:24.575 --> 0:10:27.215 you know, there's a sense that we're doing a whole 0:10:27.215 --> 0:10:30.615 lot of things now with buildings that we didn't do 0:10:30.695 --> 0:10:33.615 in the past, and even as simple as building paper 0:10:33.655 --> 0:10:36.535 on the outside of the timber framing or ceiling around 0:10:36.535 --> 0:10:39.335 the windows and all of that is to control how 0:10:39.415 --> 0:10:41.495 moisture migrates through walls. 0:10:41.535 --> 0:10:42.495 Because it does right. 0:10:43.815 --> 0:10:47.895 And so you know, if you've got a relatively modern 0:10:47.895 --> 0:10:51.135 house that's got a really good type of building wrap 0:10:51.215 --> 0:10:53.335 or a rigid air barrier around the outside, and it's 0:10:53.375 --> 0:10:57.015 sealed around the windows, and you've got better performing joinery 0:10:57.015 --> 0:11:00.535 that doesn't allow air to go in and out around 0:11:00.575 --> 0:11:03.135 the gaps and cracks in the joinery, then you can 0:11:03.175 --> 0:11:05.615 sort of protect yourself from that. But an older house, 0:11:05.775 --> 0:11:08.215 possibly like what you live in, certainly what I live in. 0:11:09.855 --> 0:11:11.535 I live in the monastery. 0:11:11.655 --> 0:11:14.415 Ah okay, all right, See, you know, it would be 0:11:14.455 --> 0:11:20.015 really interesting to measure the indoor quality, the air quality 0:11:20.055 --> 0:11:25.575 and or the indoor environment after a period of sustained 0:11:25.575 --> 0:11:27.695 hot weather like we've had over the summer in Auckland 0:11:28.055 --> 0:11:31.975 through to now where it's kind of it's sort of 0:11:32.015 --> 0:11:34.375 like moderated in my house. But I remember when we 0:11:34.415 --> 0:11:37.055 went from we haven't had much rain to we've had 0:11:37.055 --> 0:11:39.535 a lot of rain, the house just felt different. And 0:11:39.575 --> 0:11:44.295 that's just the house sucking up moisture, which is arguably 0:11:44.415 --> 0:11:45.495 not a great thing, to be. 0:11:45.495 --> 0:11:50.415 Fair, No one other thing I did a silly thing. 0:11:50.695 --> 0:11:54.775 I opened my curtains, a lightning came right into my 0:11:54.895 --> 0:11:57.895 bed dreams, so I had to shut up. That happened, 0:11:57.935 --> 0:12:01.575 and I was in this storm and there had no 0:12:01.655 --> 0:12:04.215 curtains in the garage and the lightning came right into 0:12:04.255 --> 0:12:08.855 the room. But so I had to shut the curtains. 0:12:09.575 --> 0:12:11.615 I'm not I'm not sure that the curtains would stop 0:12:11.615 --> 0:12:13.975 the lightning. But there was an impressive photograph I think, 0:12:14.615 --> 0:12:16.575 during the week of a house out in Birkenhead that 0:12:17.175 --> 0:12:20.775 got struck by lightning as well. So yeah, this this 0:12:20.855 --> 0:12:23.535 storm and the last one, I think. What what I 0:12:23.575 --> 0:12:26.935 find really interesting is that this is when you know, 0:12:27.055 --> 0:12:30.295 we we sort of this is the test for our houses, right, 0:12:30.735 --> 0:12:33.775 you know, this is the sort of environment where even 0:12:33.815 --> 0:12:37.135 in terms of roofs lifting or in terms of how 0:12:37.215 --> 0:12:42.015 well wrapped the houses are, it's it's this sort of 0:12:42.775 --> 0:12:46.455 weather that we that we should actually not just prepare for, 0:12:46.535 --> 0:12:48.895 but this is what our houses are designed to resist. 0:12:50.375 --> 0:12:54.455 And I've seen like window testing, for example, where there's 0:12:54.455 --> 0:12:59.055 a way there's a specific formula for testing the weather 0:12:59.135 --> 0:13:01.735 tightness of windows, which is a certain amount of water 0:13:02.255 --> 0:13:04.855 for a certain period of time at a certain pressure, 0:13:05.775 --> 0:13:09.335 and so manufacturers have to test their joinery to that level, 0:13:09.335 --> 0:13:12.695 and you often go, oh, you hardly have arrains like that. 0:13:12.815 --> 0:13:16.695 But when it does, that's when we want to that's 0:13:16.695 --> 0:13:20.175 when we want our houses to perform. So it's interesting, 0:13:21.055 --> 0:13:25.175 I think, unless it's an incredibly severe storm, the fact 0:13:25.215 --> 0:13:27.615 that your house moved a little bit in the weather, 0:13:27.655 --> 0:13:31.935 I think is okay to be fair saying that. Actually 0:13:31.935 --> 0:13:36.375 this week I'm really looking forward to that. This I'm 0:13:36.375 --> 0:13:38.415 going down to Wellington for the Home and Garden Show 0:13:38.695 --> 0:13:42.495 which starts this Friday in Wellington, so Friday, Saturday Sunday 0:13:42.815 --> 0:13:47.215 at the Stadium there and I'll be down there for 0:13:47.375 --> 0:13:50.815 most of Saturday, presenting on Saturday during the day. But 0:13:50.895 --> 0:13:55.615 I'm heading down on Friday and I've got an invitation 0:13:55.775 --> 0:13:59.615 to go to BRANDS, which is the Building Research Association 0:13:59.735 --> 0:14:02.975 of New Zealand. So Brands are sort of a body 0:14:03.015 --> 0:14:08.375 that tests and determines the compliance the code for any 0:14:08.455 --> 0:14:13.055 number of products, including they've got a massive laboratory effectively 0:14:13.295 --> 0:14:15.295 where they can do fire testing, where they can do 0:14:15.335 --> 0:14:18.695 earthquake testing and so on. So you know, for all 0:14:18.735 --> 0:14:21.535 of us who have put in, you know, fixings for 0:14:21.775 --> 0:14:25.095 bracing elements for example, and we wonder what sort of 0:14:25.335 --> 0:14:29.495 pressure that wall could resist before it fails. Well, that's 0:14:29.535 --> 0:14:31.255 the type of testing that they do there. So I'm 0:14:31.295 --> 0:14:34.135 heading down to Brands on Friday morning for a bit 0:14:34.135 --> 0:14:36.095 of a walk around the factory or walk around the 0:14:36.175 --> 0:14:38.375 laboratory and a catch up with some of the people there, 0:14:38.375 --> 0:14:41.455 which I'm really really looking forward to because again, you know, 0:14:41.495 --> 0:14:44.055 you read through literature or you go and you get 0:14:44.055 --> 0:14:46.215 a brand's guide or a download and you go, well, 0:14:46.255 --> 0:14:49.135 how did they reach that conclusion? I'll find out on Friday, 0:14:49.175 --> 0:14:52.415 So looking forward to that, ahead of the Home and 0:14:52.455 --> 0:14:56.015 Garden Show which will be on in Wellington on Friday 0:14:56.015 --> 0:14:58.255 Saturday Sunday, So looking forward to that as well. Oh 0:14:58.295 --> 0:15:00.375 eight one hundred and eighty ten ages before the break 0:15:00.975 --> 0:15:06.095 this with regard to the self certification, Hey Pete, I've 0:15:06.095 --> 0:15:09.015 been building nearly twenty years. Re the self certification I 0:15:09.055 --> 0:15:13.455 was discussing was a BCEA so Building Consents Authority team 0:15:13.535 --> 0:15:16.535 leader who shares my apprehension. Twenty twenty one, we bought 0:15:16.575 --> 0:15:20.495 a transportable house from Manawatu's largest home builder. Piles were 0:15:20.535 --> 0:15:24.615 poured in a failed engineered inspection. The floor had nineteen 0:15:24.655 --> 0:15:30.735 milimeter round, had floor had ninety milimeters round, Not sure 0:15:30.735 --> 0:15:36.615 what that means. Linear seilent stops were missing. The valves 0:15:36.735 --> 0:15:40.695 or screws were rusting. The kitchen wall cracked several times. 0:15:40.695 --> 0:15:43.535 Then they realized that the wall framing under a load 0:15:43.575 --> 0:15:48.375 bearing beam was only nailed together. All real examples are documented, 0:15:48.455 --> 0:15:53.375 and all real examples documented and resolved. Self certification will 0:15:53.655 --> 0:15:57.815 likely create many issues for customers. In my opinion, BCA 0:15:57.855 --> 0:16:03.935 inspections are needed to avoid preventable issues being identified. Yeah, look, 0:16:04.455 --> 0:16:07.055 I'm not going to argue with you. That's your experience, 0:16:07.135 --> 0:16:11.055 and I guess what we hoped is that those that 0:16:11.215 --> 0:16:15.215 will be eligible for self certification will have systems in 0:16:15.255 --> 0:16:19.615 place to ensure that what sound like fairly straightforward building 0:16:19.655 --> 0:16:23.055 issues are one of the mistakes aren't made, and if 0:16:23.055 --> 0:16:26.135 they are made, they're resolved. Take more of your text 0:16:26.135 --> 0:16:28.335 on that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that 0:16:28.415 --> 0:16:31.255 number to call? 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We're talking all things building, construction, the practical 0:17:48.975 --> 0:17:52.695 and I guess is it the theoretical. Well, legislation is 0:17:52.735 --> 0:17:56.735 not really theoretical, but we can talk about them. So 0:17:57.895 --> 0:18:02.175 we will talk all things building construction and some products 0:18:02.215 --> 0:18:04.975 and new ideas as well. Brian, A very good morning 0:18:05.015 --> 0:18:06.295 to you. 0:18:06.495 --> 0:18:09.255 Good morning for you know. I have an old I 0:18:09.295 --> 0:18:11.175 have an old problem with Taylor fair Show. 0:18:11.855 --> 0:18:13.495 Oh yeah, yep. 0:18:14.095 --> 0:18:17.575 And I've lived in the past and you recommended how 0:18:17.615 --> 0:18:20.175 did fix it? Get it fixed by other people? Yes, 0:18:20.215 --> 0:18:22.655 so I just did some health here. It's just coming in. 0:18:23.415 --> 0:18:25.415 It goes round the whole house, but it's just coming 0:18:25.415 --> 0:18:28.575 in where that we said six for six on it. 0:18:28.855 --> 0:18:34.215 Yes, cam inreck my whole kitchen and everything. So I 0:18:34.255 --> 0:18:37.095 mean that I spoked to Taylor and they said they 0:18:37.095 --> 0:18:39.535 can put extra dumb papes and X all the flaws 0:18:39.535 --> 0:18:42.055 in or should I just get the whole thing replaced. 0:18:44.655 --> 0:18:50.015 I mean, look, adding some additional downpipes will help reduce 0:18:50.095 --> 0:18:52.255 you know, because I think what happens well. One of 0:18:52.255 --> 0:18:54.375 the issues with them is that I don't know that 0:18:54.415 --> 0:18:58.535 the amount of water that that system carries is particularly great, right, 0:18:58.935 --> 0:19:02.255 and so if we're having downpalls now of twenty thirty 0:19:02.415 --> 0:19:06.495 millimeters per hour, it's a it's a staggering amount out 0:19:06.535 --> 0:19:11.335 of water that your roof will collect, right, So I 0:19:11.375 --> 0:19:14.815 did the calculations. The other day we installed a new 0:19:14.935 --> 0:19:17.335 Bailey water tank onto a site and it was a 0:19:17.335 --> 0:19:21.375 twenty thousand liter tank and twenty five thousand le tank 0:19:21.415 --> 0:19:23.295 I think it was. And it was connected to a 0:19:23.295 --> 0:19:27.095 workshop with a two hundred square meter roof. So one 0:19:27.215 --> 0:19:31.815 millimeter of rain would create two hundred liters of water. Now, 0:19:31.855 --> 0:19:35.015 if we're getting you know, ten times that amount in 0:19:35.095 --> 0:19:39.735 an hour and for several hours in a row, it's 0:19:39.775 --> 0:19:43.855 a staggering amount of the volume that you collect. So, yes, 0:19:43.935 --> 0:19:47.895 if you've got relatively small gutters, which I know that 0:19:47.975 --> 0:19:52.255 the original tailor facer did, versus let's say a one 0:19:52.455 --> 0:19:55.935 fifty external spouting, right, which has a lot more volume 0:19:56.055 --> 0:19:59.815 and can carry more water, then by the time the 0:19:59.855 --> 0:20:03.375 water gets into the spouting travels to the downpipe. Often 0:20:03.415 --> 0:20:06.255 the downpipes are actually relatively small. They might be sixty 0:20:06.375 --> 0:20:09.415 five millimeter as opposed to an eighty or one hundred 0:20:09.455 --> 0:20:14.575 milimeter downpipe. That'll help, But look, I think you know 0:20:14.615 --> 0:20:16.855 the issue is when it goes wrong or when we 0:20:16.935 --> 0:20:20.855 have extreme well it's not even extreme weather. These sorts 0:20:20.855 --> 0:20:23.215 of weather events are more and more common, right, It's 0:20:23.255 --> 0:20:27.775 not unusual now to get down paws of twenty thirty 0:20:27.815 --> 0:20:31.495 millimeters of rain per hour for a sustained period. So 0:20:32.335 --> 0:20:34.735 you know what happens with that the old tailor and 0:20:34.815 --> 0:20:37.455 class facier is that it tends to flow over the 0:20:37.495 --> 0:20:40.855 back of the the upstand of the gutter and then 0:20:40.895 --> 0:20:43.975 it drops down onto the safet. And the safite is 0:20:44.135 --> 0:20:46.975 installed before the cladding, and so the water tracks along 0:20:47.015 --> 0:20:50.175 there and dives in behind the cladding. And that's that's 0:20:50.215 --> 0:20:53.655 exactly what happened in your kitchen. So you know, I 0:20:53.695 --> 0:20:56.895 think in this instance, if you had something whereby the 0:20:56.935 --> 0:20:59.855 spouting is hanging on the outside of the facia and 0:20:59.895 --> 0:21:03.055 that if the spouting can't cope, even if it flows 0:21:03.175 --> 0:21:06.815 over the back of the spouting and down in front 0:21:06.815 --> 0:21:08.855 of the faci, it it just goes onto the ground. 0:21:09.375 --> 0:21:15.335 So yes, I mean, look, I think you know, you 0:21:15.335 --> 0:21:16.975 can have a go at fixing it, or you can 0:21:16.975 --> 0:21:18.935 have a go putting in more downpipes. The other thing 0:21:18.975 --> 0:21:21.015 was putting in more downpipes is where do they go? 0:21:21.335 --> 0:21:21.535 Right? 0:21:22.695 --> 0:21:25.215 They just flaws? 0:21:25.495 --> 0:21:31.615 Okay, yeah, yes, you could install more overflows. And look, 0:21:32.295 --> 0:21:35.415 in the end, we're all constrained by budget, right, And 0:21:35.455 --> 0:21:38.615 I'm very aware that sometimes I'll make a suggestion like 0:21:38.695 --> 0:21:41.775 you should replace it, and realize that not everyone's in 0:21:41.815 --> 0:21:46.015 a position where that's affordable, in which case, if you 0:21:46.055 --> 0:21:49.135 are constrained by budget or you don't want to invest 0:21:49.175 --> 0:21:52.935 in it, then yeah, adding more overflows will help, but 0:21:53.055 --> 0:21:57.855 it's it won't solve the problem. My feeling is, I'll 0:21:57.855 --> 0:22:01.495 be quite honest about it, is that those systems typically 0:22:01.895 --> 0:22:05.535 don't work particularly well, and so having a system with 0:22:05.735 --> 0:22:09.375 facia and then outboard spouting seems to be a better solution. 0:22:10.335 --> 0:22:12.975 And the reason I mentioned the two companies that I 0:22:13.015 --> 0:22:16.055 have over the last little while is because I'm aware 0:22:16.095 --> 0:22:20.775 that they've developed systems where they've got a retrofit system 0:22:21.175 --> 0:22:21.815 that works. 0:22:21.975 --> 0:22:22.175 Right. 0:22:22.615 --> 0:22:25.055 I'm sure there are others. I'm not aware of them. 0:22:25.135 --> 0:22:27.335 I'm happy for someone to reach out to me and say, hey, 0:22:27.335 --> 0:22:29.855 we've got a system as well. But I know that 0:22:30.295 --> 0:22:34.655 both the custom Facier guys and Continuous Group have systems 0:22:34.695 --> 0:22:36.175 that they've developed that work. 0:22:37.615 --> 0:22:40.295 So it's Customs and Continuous. 0:22:40.735 --> 0:22:45.295 Yeah, that's right, And I've seen both of their systems around. 0:22:45.655 --> 0:22:48.375 I've had quotes from one of them anyway for a job, 0:22:48.495 --> 0:22:50.855 just to get a rough idea, and I must stag 0:22:50.935 --> 0:22:54.015 it out. Actually I didn't think it was well, look, 0:22:54.015 --> 0:22:57.215 everything's expensive, but it didn't. It didn't feel like it 0:22:57.255 --> 0:23:00.295 was an un reasonable amount of money to charge for 0:23:00.335 --> 0:23:02.495 something that will give you so much peace of mind. 0:23:03.415 --> 0:23:07.215 If you have a lineal lilion meta, how much to 0:23:07.255 --> 0:23:07.615 a beta? 0:23:09.175 --> 0:23:09.215 No? 0:23:09.415 --> 0:23:12.575 Look, I tell you what, especially nowadays you know with 0:23:12.815 --> 0:23:16.895 gies right and with satellite imagery. What I did is 0:23:17.015 --> 0:23:19.655 it was a property that a family member was interested 0:23:19.655 --> 0:23:24.735 in purchasing. It had that concealed spouting facial system, and 0:23:24.775 --> 0:23:26.935 I said, if you go ahead and buy the property, 0:23:26.935 --> 0:23:29.215 you should set aside some money to resolve it. And 0:23:29.255 --> 0:23:34.175 so I simply sent the address. It was custom Actually 0:23:34.455 --> 0:23:36.775 who did the pricing for me. Sent it to them. 0:23:36.855 --> 0:23:39.535 They can measure it using satellite imagery and gave me 0:23:39.575 --> 0:23:41.175 a quote back, so they don't even have to send 0:23:41.175 --> 0:23:44.135 someone out, so that that part of the technology is fantastic. 0:23:45.935 --> 0:23:48.335 Get a price, and then you can decide that's always 0:23:48.335 --> 0:23:55.655 the best thing. Hey, good luck with that, you know. Yeah, 0:23:55.855 --> 0:23:58.935 Well hopefully I've just given you information you can convince yourself. 0:23:59.175 --> 0:24:01.055 There you go, mate, All the very best to your Brian, 0:24:01.415 --> 0:24:07.255 take care. Maybe this is the thing and I'm in 0:24:07.295 --> 0:24:09.815 the same situation where you know, like for Brian, he's 0:24:09.815 --> 0:24:13.295 going to spend some money to resolve a problem in 0:24:13.335 --> 0:24:15.135 the end, but he's still going to sort of get 0:24:15.175 --> 0:24:18.015 what he's already got, which is, you know, some sort 0:24:18.015 --> 0:24:19.975 of facire around the outside of the building and some 0:24:20.055 --> 0:24:23.095 spouting right the idea being it captures the water directs 0:24:23.095 --> 0:24:26.415 it to this downpipes. So you end up spending money, 0:24:26.415 --> 0:24:28.095 but you just get what you had before. In the 0:24:28.135 --> 0:24:30.295 same way that the project one of the projects that 0:24:30.295 --> 0:24:33.015 I'm doing at the moment, restoring or replacing all of 0:24:33.055 --> 0:24:36.455 the handrails and ballusters. In the end, after all of 0:24:36.455 --> 0:24:39.135 the work that I've done, I just get back what 0:24:39.215 --> 0:24:42.815 I had before, which is kind of maintenance. Normally, if 0:24:42.815 --> 0:24:46.295 we're doing projects, we want to see some dramatic improvement, 0:24:46.295 --> 0:24:48.615 and while this will look better, it'll be what I 0:24:48.655 --> 0:24:51.215 had before, just that won't be falling apart, which I 0:24:51.255 --> 0:24:53.815 suppose is better. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 0:24:53.855 --> 0:24:57.615 If you've got a question about building, about building legislation, 0:24:57.695 --> 0:25:01.375 starting to get a few texts and around the new certification, 0:25:01.455 --> 0:25:02.815 this is a good one actually, before we go to 0:25:02.855 --> 0:25:05.495 the break, Hey, Pete, the new certifications being sold as 0:25:05.495 --> 0:25:07.655 a money saverer for the building owner. I wonder how 0:25:07.735 --> 0:25:11.095 much insurance will cost. I suspect if it's available, this 0:25:11.135 --> 0:25:14.055 will cancel out any savings. Also be interested if the 0:25:14.095 --> 0:25:17.935 insurance company sticks around when one mistake is repeated through 0:25:17.975 --> 0:25:22.495 one hundred houses. Interesting point. Look, it's a great discussion 0:25:22.575 --> 0:25:24.775 and we need to have this discussion and people need 0:25:24.815 --> 0:25:29.255 to be aware, I suppose of some of the potential pitfalls. 0:25:29.775 --> 0:25:31.895 These are also the sort of texts that I hope 0:25:31.895 --> 0:25:35.815 you'll send in again next week when Chris Pink, the Minister, 0:25:37.055 --> 0:25:40.055 will be here in the studio. We'll have a bit 0:25:40.055 --> 0:25:41.975 of a chat and you'll have an opportunity to text 0:25:42.055 --> 0:25:45.895 or possibly even phone through. So he's making himself available 0:25:46.335 --> 0:25:50.055 pretty much for an hour, which I'm very grateful for 0:25:50.095 --> 0:25:53.255 from early on Sunday morning. So looking forward to that. 0:25:53.255 --> 0:25:56.815 That's next Sunday, Sunday, the eleventh of May, oh eight 0:25:56.935 --> 0:25:58.815 hundred eighty ten eighty. The number call. 0:25:58.855 --> 0:26:01.775 Whether you're paidy the ceiling, fixing the fens or wondering 0:26:01.775 --> 0:26:03.895 how to fix that hole in the wall, Give feeder, 0:26:03.935 --> 0:26:06.095 wolf gabber call on eight hundred. 0:26:05.935 --> 0:26:08.855 Eighty ten eighty the resident builder on Youth Dogs. 0:26:08.855 --> 0:26:12.575 That'd be talking all things building and construction, the actual 0:26:12.695 --> 0:26:17.055 practical bits as well as the rules and regulations and 0:26:17.135 --> 0:26:20.015 the materials that are out there, and again this is 0:26:20.015 --> 0:26:22.375 probably something to discuss with the Minister when he joins 0:26:22.455 --> 0:26:25.815 us in the studio next week. Is around the change 0:26:25.855 --> 0:26:29.255 to the legislation that will allow the importation and use 0:26:29.455 --> 0:26:34.375 of building products perhaps that haven't got New Zealand certification 0:26:34.495 --> 0:26:36.855 that are not tested here if you can prove that 0:26:36.895 --> 0:26:41.655 they've been manufactured to a similar standard as what would 0:26:41.655 --> 0:26:44.935 be acceptable in New Zealand. So again gets quite complicated 0:26:44.975 --> 0:26:48.055 quite quickly. We'll talk about that maybe with the Minister 0:26:48.215 --> 0:26:50.895 as well. To be fair, I think it makes a 0:26:50.935 --> 0:26:54.375 lot of sense. But it'll be in conversation to have 0:26:54.495 --> 0:26:56.255 with the people at Brands too when I'm down there 0:26:56.255 --> 0:26:58.575 on Friday. So really looking forward to that. Oh eight 0:26:58.735 --> 0:27:01.055 hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Kate 0:27:01.175 --> 0:27:02.375 A very good morning to you. 0:27:03.415 --> 0:27:05.895 Good morning to you, Pete. I trust you, Oh well, 0:27:06.455 --> 0:27:09.855 thank you and you yes, thank you. I have a 0:27:09.975 --> 0:27:11.735 very quick question. I think I've had a bit of 0:27:11.855 --> 0:27:16.375 landscaping done and I've used Jack Matte. The chap did 0:27:16.415 --> 0:27:18.975 a good job with all of the laying of the 0:27:19.015 --> 0:27:21.335 base course and the Jack matt and filling it in. 0:27:22.135 --> 0:27:26.615 Oh he's had to box in the it's for parking, yes, 0:27:27.015 --> 0:27:29.615 so he's had to box in some areas, and there 0:27:29.655 --> 0:27:33.215 will be occasionally a car perhaps driving over the boxing 0:27:33.255 --> 0:27:34.295 if they missed the edge. 0:27:34.455 --> 0:27:34.935 O ye. 0:27:35.175 --> 0:27:39.455 And yet most of the timber that he used to 0:27:39.535 --> 0:27:43.615 box in has been retained with waratas about a third 0:27:43.655 --> 0:27:43.895 of it. 0:27:43.975 --> 0:27:46.255 He used some posts yep, which. 0:27:46.055 --> 0:27:48.775 Are one hundred by one hundred and concrete it in 0:27:48.815 --> 0:27:50.895 and then they are along the lower areas where there 0:27:50.935 --> 0:27:53.215 wasn't quite such a height that he had to retain. 0:27:53.895 --> 0:27:56.895 He's used waratas. Can they stay in the ground long 0:27:57.015 --> 0:27:59.935 term or will they rust? Or will they you know, 0:28:00.015 --> 0:28:02.055 what's the story with these things? I thought they were 0:28:02.135 --> 0:28:03.975 just for stil fence and half. 0:28:03.815 --> 0:28:09.175 Oh yeah, fabulous in the sense that you know, for 0:28:10.015 --> 0:28:12.855 fencing and temporary fencing and so on. They've certainly got 0:28:12.895 --> 0:28:15.975 their uses, and I think, you know, I was looking 0:28:15.975 --> 0:28:18.415 at job this week that had some warritas used as 0:28:18.535 --> 0:28:22.135 retaining as well, but it was more in a temporary sense. Look, 0:28:22.455 --> 0:28:24.935 I think the beauty of them is that they are 0:28:25.135 --> 0:28:28.775 remarkably robust. They're easy to drive in. You know, you 0:28:28.815 --> 0:28:31.055 can drive them in a decent way into the ground. 0:28:31.375 --> 0:28:36.335 Just using a sledgehammer or something similar. If it's like 0:28:36.575 --> 0:28:39.695 edging and maybe it holds up to I don't know, 0:28:39.735 --> 0:28:42.535 one hundred and fifty two hundred millimeters, then I think 0:28:42.575 --> 0:28:46.055 they're probably not a bad solution. And look, they'll last 0:28:46.095 --> 0:28:48.295 as long as you need them to last. I think, 0:28:49.055 --> 0:28:51.455 you know, jeep as, I've probably got a collection of 0:28:51.455 --> 0:28:54.215 them underneath the house that I've used for twenty years 0:28:54.295 --> 0:28:56.655 or something like that, and they're still, you know, showing 0:28:56.695 --> 0:28:59.015 no sign of wear and tear. And I'm sure even 0:28:59.015 --> 0:29:01.575 if they were in the ground, they'd last twenty years 0:29:01.615 --> 0:29:04.655 twenty five years before they started to fail. You wouldn't, 0:29:05.055 --> 0:29:07.175 you know, because they're driven in to the ground and 0:29:07.615 --> 0:29:11.135 they're actually remarkably strong given how small they are. But 0:29:11.255 --> 0:29:13.815 I probably wouldn't use them. And it sounds like he 0:29:13.895 --> 0:29:17.535 hasn't used them for retaining anything significant. It's just where 0:29:17.575 --> 0:29:20.255 it gets quite shallow. You can use them to kind 0:29:20.255 --> 0:29:27.095 of stake the edges and and it'll probably be fine, 0:29:28.335 --> 0:29:28.815 thank you. 0:29:28.775 --> 0:29:28.935 You know. 0:29:29.175 --> 0:29:34.695 It's look, I think, to be fair, if you went 0:29:34.735 --> 0:29:36.455 out and had a look at them in five years time, 0:29:36.815 --> 0:29:38.935 there'd be a little bit of rust on the top, 0:29:39.975 --> 0:29:44.975 but it's not going to you know, make it's not 0:29:45.015 --> 0:29:46.055 going to lead to failure. 0:29:46.535 --> 0:29:51.215 If that was the concern, I'm very reassured because clearly, Pete, 0:29:51.415 --> 0:29:53.615 they are going to last longer than I am. 0:29:54.815 --> 0:29:57.895 And I wasn't going to say anything like that, but 0:29:57.975 --> 0:30:00.175 I think, you know, at a certain point we all 0:30:00.215 --> 0:30:04.455 recognize that this, this is probably a reality in our 0:30:04.535 --> 0:30:07.255 lives as we age, is that some things will outlast us. 0:30:07.295 --> 0:30:10.135 Now that's great, appreciate it. 0:30:10.135 --> 0:30:12.815 No, look, I think it's in and it's straight, and 0:30:12.855 --> 0:30:16.615 it's not holding up a huge amount of weight. It'll 0:30:16.615 --> 0:30:17.495 be absolutely fine. 0:30:17.695 --> 0:30:20.575 Then they can be driven over if if somebody doesn't 0:30:20.615 --> 0:30:22.495 drive very well off the parking. 0:30:22.535 --> 0:30:24.335 Yeah, I mean, look, I wouldn't want to drive over 0:30:24.375 --> 0:30:26.775 the top of a warritor because they're relatively sharp on 0:30:26.815 --> 0:30:29.015 the top. I don't think it'd be terribly good for 0:30:29.055 --> 0:30:33.775 your tires. But yes, if somebody did drive over them, yeah. 0:30:33.215 --> 0:30:36.415 Well it's lower than in the edge of the timber. 0:30:36.455 --> 0:30:38.535 So they're driving over the timber as long as it's 0:30:38.575 --> 0:30:39.215 strong enough. 0:30:39.495 --> 0:30:42.495 And the challenging thing with them is how do you 0:30:42.535 --> 0:30:44.335 then fit the timber to it. So what I presume 0:30:44.455 --> 0:30:47.055 is they've done from the back is just use some 0:30:47.095 --> 0:30:49.215 tech screws or something like that, like a Heck's he'd 0:30:49.255 --> 0:30:52.455 screw and just screwed straight into the timber from behind. 0:30:53.575 --> 0:30:57.415 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's it'll be fun. Yeah, thank you, 0:30:57.455 --> 0:30:58.175 No trouble at all. 0:30:59.135 --> 0:31:02.855 Take care see then by then. And I think it 0:31:02.935 --> 0:31:05.935 was actually the Minister Chris Pine used the phrase when 0:31:05.975 --> 0:31:09.175 you did the interview last week, quick and dirty solutions. 0:31:09.375 --> 0:31:13.415 And sometimes that's okay stuff. Some stuff just needs to 0:31:13.535 --> 0:31:16.575 last for a while. But and I think this is 0:31:16.615 --> 0:31:20.295 the challenge with building and builders is you know, for 0:31:20.375 --> 0:31:23.855 all of us, we're really focused on getting our job 0:31:23.975 --> 0:31:28.415 done today. You know, if that's putting on building paper 0:31:28.455 --> 0:31:32.255 and putting wraps in or ceiling around penetrations, we're thinking 0:31:32.255 --> 0:31:35.655 about getting the job done today. And I think one 0:31:35.655 --> 0:31:38.055 of the things we have to teach the young builders 0:31:38.055 --> 0:31:40.575 coming through is that what you're actually doing is not 0:31:40.695 --> 0:31:44.215 about today. It's about next week and the week after, 0:31:44.295 --> 0:31:47.615 and the month after and the year after and effectively 0:31:47.695 --> 0:31:50.255 the decade after. You know, if we're asking for our 0:31:50.295 --> 0:31:53.135 buildings to have a minimum time to stay up in 0:31:53.215 --> 0:31:55.855 terms of the structure of fifty years, what you've got 0:31:55.855 --> 0:31:57.695 to be thinking, what's got to be front of mind 0:31:57.695 --> 0:32:01.175 when you're building, is is this going to last twenty years? 0:32:01.295 --> 0:32:03.135 This is what I'm doing going to be good enough, 0:32:03.175 --> 0:32:05.415 not just for today, but for the next twenty years. 0:32:05.455 --> 0:32:12.615 I think that's really really important. Sorry, I'll see the text. 0:32:13.055 --> 0:32:13.335 Pete. 0:32:13.375 --> 0:32:15.895 You can find the war Retar sailing on the inter Islander. 0:32:16.415 --> 0:32:21.055 That's very good. I suspect because young Isaiah, my producer, 0:32:21.215 --> 0:32:24.055 is of a much younger vintage than I, that that 0:32:24.175 --> 0:32:26.975 reference will just sail right over his head, just right 0:32:27.015 --> 0:32:29.575 over the top. But I get it, and there'll be 0:32:29.615 --> 0:32:32.335 people chuckling, So I love that. Pete. You can find 0:32:32.375 --> 0:32:35.975 the Warratar sailing on the inter Islander from Alex very good, 0:32:36.335 --> 0:32:39.935 very droll, very droll. Indeed, seventeen minutes away from seven 0:32:39.975 --> 0:32:42.215 back after the break, will take your calls. Eight hundred 0:32:42.335 --> 0:32:44.095 eighty ten eighty is the number. 0:32:44.895 --> 0:32:47.055 Squeaky door or squeaky floor. 0:32:47.215 --> 0:32:50.655 Get the right advice from Peter Wolfgaf, the resident builder 0:32:50.735 --> 0:32:52.015 on news Talks, heb. 0:32:52.735 --> 0:32:54.535 You and news Talk SIB. If you've got a question 0:32:54.655 --> 0:32:57.015 of a building nature, we can take your calls right now. 0:32:57.015 --> 0:32:59.295 We've got some spare lines. That's eight hundred and eighty 0:32:59.455 --> 0:33:02.855 ten eighty and I mean This is a show where 0:33:02.855 --> 0:33:05.295 we can pretty much talk about anything related to building, 0:33:05.295 --> 0:33:09.575 whether it's the and the regulations, the practical stuff dealing 0:33:09.575 --> 0:33:14.175 with subcontractors. We had a couple of really good questions 0:33:14.255 --> 0:33:18.535 last week around subcontractors, and not so much hourly rates, 0:33:18.535 --> 0:33:19.975 because I think that's the sort of thing that you 0:33:20.055 --> 0:33:22.935 have to decide. Still have in the back of my 0:33:23.015 --> 0:33:27.455 mind one someone saying what's an appropriate margin for subcontractors 0:33:27.495 --> 0:33:31.615 to charge on materials? But I think all of these 0:33:31.655 --> 0:33:35.575 things are up to up for discussion, as in, if 0:33:35.615 --> 0:33:38.735 you're engaging with a contractor, it's part of your negotiations 0:33:38.735 --> 0:33:42.775 with the subcontractor to decide. And if you find one subcontractor, 0:33:43.215 --> 0:33:47.175 for example, who has a lower margin, you may choose 0:33:47.215 --> 0:33:48.775 to go with that person, But then you've got to 0:33:48.775 --> 0:33:51.415 look at other parts of the contractor to determine whether 0:33:51.535 --> 0:33:53.375 or not that's fair. In fact, Made of Mind rang 0:33:53.415 --> 0:33:56.375 me yesterday and said, look, I've just had some I've 0:33:56.415 --> 0:34:01.655 had three prices for scaffolding, just scaffolding for a relatively small, 0:34:02.815 --> 0:34:06.175 average sized building. Some of it's slightly taller, some of 0:34:06.175 --> 0:34:08.375 the it's not so tall. Got a scaffold around the 0:34:08.375 --> 0:34:11.655 building for painting and maintenance and also some edge protection 0:34:11.695 --> 0:34:14.015 because someone's going to be working on the roof. And 0:34:14.215 --> 0:34:17.055 the prices came in and he said, what I have noticed, 0:34:17.095 --> 0:34:19.855 and maybe you've noticed this as well, is that typically 0:34:20.535 --> 0:34:23.535 when you get a scaffolding company to come in price, 0:34:23.775 --> 0:34:28.495 the price is often for the supply and erection of 0:34:28.535 --> 0:34:31.335 the scaffolding on site, and then you get basically a 0:34:31.415 --> 0:34:35.335 month's higher included in that initial fee, and then thereafter 0:34:35.375 --> 0:34:39.775 there'll be a weekly higher until the job's finished, and 0:34:39.815 --> 0:34:41.935 then the cost of pulling it down is included in 0:34:41.935 --> 0:34:45.095 the cost of putting it up. But it seems to 0:34:45.135 --> 0:34:47.815 have changed and now all of the prices that were 0:34:47.815 --> 0:34:52.495 supplied were to supply and erect the scaffold and one 0:34:52.535 --> 0:34:56.095 week's higher basically including the price, and after one week 0:34:56.135 --> 0:34:58.375 you started paying on a weekly basis, So it seems 0:34:58.415 --> 0:35:00.415 like that's changed as well. You make here to comment, 0:35:00.655 --> 0:35:02.615 Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 0:35:02.695 --> 0:35:08.175 number to call. Very good question as well. On the text, Hey, Pete, 0:35:08.175 --> 0:35:11.735 there's been a lot of government announcements on building changes recently, 0:35:11.855 --> 0:35:14.895 just wondering when they will be in use. And then 0:35:14.895 --> 0:35:18.535 there's a proposed three six four changes to include medium 0:35:18.575 --> 0:35:22.655 density three stories that were announced in twenty twenty twenty 0:35:22.655 --> 0:35:25.535 one to be in place by twenty twenty three. Where 0:35:25.615 --> 0:35:28.655 is that at very good question. I'll try and save 0:35:28.735 --> 0:35:30.535 that and we can put that to the minister. So 0:35:30.615 --> 0:35:34.815 three six four is NZS three six four. It is 0:35:34.855 --> 0:35:40.055 the guide for light for basically timber frame construction up 0:35:40.095 --> 0:35:43.055 to two stories. But given that we're getting more and 0:35:43.095 --> 0:35:46.895 more developments of three stories, you can't use three six 0:35:47.055 --> 0:35:50.935 h four to design those. You have to end up 0:35:51.575 --> 0:35:56.495 having specific engineering design, obviously predominantly to deal with bracing 0:35:57.375 --> 0:36:00.575 because the building is that extra story tall. So will 0:36:00.615 --> 0:36:03.575 there be changes to three six four to allow you 0:36:03.655 --> 0:36:07.615 to use that guide as a way of designing relatively 0:36:07.655 --> 0:36:11.375 straightforward buildings to three stories high. That's a very good question. 0:36:11.455 --> 0:36:13.975 I'll photograph that text or I'll get someone to pull 0:36:13.975 --> 0:36:16.015 it off the machine and we can put that to 0:36:16.615 --> 0:36:18.775 the minister next week as well. Ten minutes away from 0:36:18.855 --> 0:36:20.735 seven to don hello there. 0:36:21.335 --> 0:36:24.215 Hello, I just rang up on site. This was interested 0:36:24.455 --> 0:36:26.815 in Palmiston North On the eighteenth of May, we are 0:36:26.815 --> 0:36:32.095 having a wood turning, a speed wood turning competition where 0:36:33.415 --> 0:36:35.175 turners are going to turn a bowl or some of 0:36:35.215 --> 0:36:37.135 the best tenners and you are going to tempt to 0:36:37.135 --> 0:36:40.255 turn a bowl in fifteen minutes. They'll all start off 0:36:40.255 --> 0:36:44.935 with just like the Golden Cheers Award, the Golden Chizzle Award, 0:36:45.415 --> 0:36:48.055 where turners are going to turn a bowl in fifteen minutes, 0:36:48.095 --> 0:36:51.215 straight off the lathe and no sandpaper, and they're going 0:36:51.215 --> 0:36:53.655 to be judged and the winner is going to get 0:36:53.695 --> 0:36:55.335 what we call the Golden Chisel Trophy. 0:36:55.815 --> 0:36:58.815 That's awesome. I love that. I think that's the. 0:36:58.735 --> 0:37:00.455 First time it's been I think the first time it's 0:37:00.455 --> 0:37:04.975 been attempted in New Zealand. Really speak takeular for for 0:37:05.135 --> 0:37:06.615 your listeners if they want to come up have a 0:37:06.655 --> 0:37:09.295 look Ammittally. It's some Palmiston North, but it's on the Sunday, 0:37:09.335 --> 0:37:14.495 the eighteenth of May at the at the Barber Hall 0:37:14.575 --> 0:37:16.055 and Water Grocery, Parmiston North. 0:37:17.175 --> 0:37:19.575 If people want to find out more, don is there 0:37:19.695 --> 0:37:24.015 like a Facebook page, Instagram website for this is someone. 0:37:24.095 --> 0:37:26.175 We can go on to the manor to Woodworkers Killed 0:37:26.935 --> 0:37:30.135 website and there's information on there about it and there 0:37:30.215 --> 0:37:34.015 is in Facebook's available too. I'm telling you all about it. 0:37:34.015 --> 0:37:35.935 It will be going all day. It's called the Central 0:37:35.975 --> 0:37:39.935 Districts Woodworking expo, and there's all sorts of people there, 0:37:39.975 --> 0:37:42.135 but they will be part of the show. 0:37:42.335 --> 0:37:45.855 Yeah, that's Look, I really appreciate the heads up on that, 0:37:45.935 --> 0:37:48.975 and I'm curious about the technical side of it. So 0:37:49.095 --> 0:37:52.015 will each of the turners bring their own lath or 0:37:52.055 --> 0:37:53.935 will you have a whole series of laths set up? 0:37:53.975 --> 0:37:58.055 That are we provide the six lades. They're all the 0:37:58.055 --> 0:38:00.535 type of blades. Actually, they're all you know, about the 0:38:00.575 --> 0:38:03.295 same standard, so that you know, there's no penalty for 0:38:03.295 --> 0:38:04.935 having a slower laser going to. 0:38:04.935 --> 0:38:07.455 Say, you know, I mean it could be rigged. 0:38:08.575 --> 0:38:09.495 Yeah, we'll give. 0:38:09.415 --> 0:38:14.575 Some Yeah, we're all turning the same blank which is 0:38:14.575 --> 0:38:16.855 a piece. It was a microcappa, which is having fifty 0:38:17.255 --> 0:38:20.975 seventy five okay, and it's not only the first one 0:38:20.975 --> 0:38:25.135 past the post, it's the more consistency of the bowls 0:38:25.135 --> 0:38:27.455 as well, and finish it again and things like that, 0:38:28.095 --> 0:38:31.255 and some quite good price manage to be made. So yeah, 0:38:31.455 --> 0:38:34.135 and so we're going to try it a manerer Widuks Guild. 0:38:34.135 --> 0:38:37.215 And I just thought your listeners would be brilliant, brilliant. 0:38:38.015 --> 0:38:40.695 I'll look it up online as well, and I think 0:38:40.735 --> 0:38:42.855 that's awesome. It'd be a great thing to. 0:38:42.815 --> 0:38:46.295 Be part of. Thank you very much much pleasure, all. 0:38:46.215 --> 0:38:49.895 The best on all take care. So just those details again. 0:38:49.935 --> 0:38:53.095 I think if you search Manoa two wood Workers Guild, 0:38:53.255 --> 0:38:57.735 it's the Central District's wood Turning Festival eighteenth of May 0:38:57.895 --> 0:39:03.655 Palastan North Fay because I got a message from some 0:39:03.655 --> 0:39:06.415 friends of mine in the UK the other day who 0:39:06.575 --> 0:39:09.695 who as a day out sort of thing. They went 0:39:09.775 --> 0:39:12.775 and found some local wood turners and had a day 0:39:12.855 --> 0:39:15.415 or a morning of wood turning. Never done it before 0:39:15.455 --> 0:39:20.335 in their lives, but obviously with some professional supervision they 0:39:20.335 --> 0:39:23.455 were able to go and create something. I haven't done 0:39:23.495 --> 0:39:24.775 wood turning since. 0:39:26.055 --> 0:39:26.455 Kriichi. 0:39:27.655 --> 0:39:29.495 I think pretty much. The one and only time that 0:39:29.535 --> 0:39:33.215 I ever did wood turning was in woodwork class with 0:39:33.295 --> 0:39:37.695 mister Buckton in about nineteen seventy eight. Thank you very much. 0:39:37.775 --> 0:39:40.855 Form one nineteen seventy eight woodworking class with mister Buckton, 0:39:41.695 --> 0:39:44.135 and he allowed me at the end of the year 0:39:44.175 --> 0:39:46.895 to use the lathe. And I tell you what I made, 0:39:47.335 --> 0:39:51.335 effectively like a mallet you know that you'd use for chisling. 0:39:53.575 --> 0:39:56.375 And I made that and I've still got it. I've 0:39:56.415 --> 0:39:58.375 still got it and I still use it from time 0:39:58.415 --> 0:40:02.375 to time. One of my most treasured possessions, to be fair, 0:40:02.695 --> 0:40:05.495 a mallet that I made nineteen seventy eight, woodworking class. 0:40:05.535 --> 0:40:08.455 Ah see, good stuff last eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 0:40:08.455 --> 0:40:11.575 The number the call pat Hello there, Hello. 0:40:11.815 --> 0:40:14.855 Just to be call. I don't even remember. I ran 0:40:14.935 --> 0:40:18.815 you before Christmas about my conservative roof that had hail 0:40:18.895 --> 0:40:22.455 damage for the third time. And my son in law 0:40:22.495 --> 0:40:26.535 has replaced the roof with the refrigerating panels and then 0:40:26.615 --> 0:40:28.055 it's marvelous. 0:40:29.295 --> 0:40:33.255 Okay, So this has been a solution to a problem 0:40:33.295 --> 0:40:35.095 with the conservatory roofs leaking. 0:40:35.535 --> 0:40:38.335 Yes, yes, and it was it was full of holes 0:40:38.375 --> 0:40:41.695 that hailstones, and the raid got into the first layer 0:40:41.695 --> 0:40:42.855 and it went all green. 0:40:44.615 --> 0:40:47.695 I think too. There there's something about, you know, the 0:40:48.255 --> 0:40:52.135 change in the environment and climatic conditions and so on, 0:40:52.215 --> 0:40:55.295 that you know in the same way that I think 0:40:55.335 --> 0:40:58.735 we used to look at It's almost like twenty five 0:40:58.815 --> 0:41:01.695 thirty years ago we all discovered that actually having north 0:41:01.735 --> 0:41:05.215 facing aspect is really really cool, right for our really 0:41:05.215 --> 0:41:08.455 really hot actually for our houses. So let's orientate our 0:41:08.495 --> 0:41:10.495 houses to the north, let's open them up to the 0:41:10.535 --> 0:41:14.175 sun and so on. But now suddenly we're also going criky. 0:41:14.215 --> 0:41:16.735 It gets boiling hot, and the same a little bit 0:41:16.735 --> 0:41:19.335 with conservatories. You know, hey, let's have this grape, big 0:41:19.335 --> 0:41:22.335 glass structure and absorb all of this heat. And now 0:41:22.975 --> 0:41:25.215 we're sort of going criky. Now that we've got all 0:41:25.295 --> 0:41:27.095 this heat, How do we manage it? What do we 0:41:27.135 --> 0:41:29.775 do with it? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So 0:41:31.295 --> 0:41:34.655 I think replacing clear roofing, let's say, with something that's 0:41:34.695 --> 0:41:39.815 actually insulated like that insulated roof panel in some situations 0:41:39.855 --> 0:41:40.855 makes a lot of sense. 0:41:41.335 --> 0:41:43.575 That's awesome, it certainly does. 0:41:43.655 --> 0:41:47.055 But also too, when he was out there, he noticed 0:41:47.135 --> 0:41:49.815 where I've had a man out there to clear up 0:41:49.815 --> 0:41:53.015 my spou thing. Yes, it was awful at cracks. 0:41:52.575 --> 0:41:55.895 At this for me thick, Oh okay. 0:41:55.695 --> 0:41:59.855 Big hole. So now I'm morter tized and I'm so 0:42:00.055 --> 0:42:02.375 happy with its. 0:42:01.775 --> 0:42:05.135 Ring and oh that's fabulous. No, I really appreciate the update. 0:42:05.255 --> 0:42:09.015 And look, it does feel good when we do. You know, 0:42:09.055 --> 0:42:11.415 if we know we've got a problem with our houses, right, 0:42:11.455 --> 0:42:14.695 whether it's leaky this or a door that's a bit funny, 0:42:14.895 --> 0:42:17.935 or we know that the downpipe is not quite working, 0:42:18.215 --> 0:42:22.695 or the simple satisfaction of cleaning out your guttering right, 0:42:23.775 --> 0:42:25.975 just knowing that it works when it rains and it 0:42:26.015 --> 0:42:31.135 will and knowing that it works feels great. Saying that 0:42:32.055 --> 0:42:34.815 I've now written a note to myself to say I've 0:42:34.895 --> 0:42:36.815 got a place that I look after. And when I 0:42:36.855 --> 0:42:39.295 was up there the other day patching the roof actually 0:42:39.615 --> 0:42:41.935 ahead of the storm, just for eester, I looked at 0:42:41.975 --> 0:42:43.855 the spouting and thought, oh, it's been too long since 0:42:43.855 --> 0:42:45.775 I've done that. So that's on my list of things 0:42:45.815 --> 0:42:48.095 to do this week. So I'll see if. 0:42:48.015 --> 0:42:49.255 I feel good by next week. 0:42:49.335 --> 0:42:52.895 Yeah, always always, Hey, thanks for calling all the very best. 0:42:52.975 --> 0:42:54.215 Bye I them okay, bye bye. 0:42:55.615 --> 0:42:58.575 A couple of other actually some really good texts coming 0:42:58.615 --> 0:43:01.735 through with regard to the buildings and so actually just 0:43:01.815 --> 0:43:03.735 another comment just to sort of balance things out. I 0:43:03.735 --> 0:43:05.855 guess around the tailor facer and I'm not trying to 0:43:05.855 --> 0:43:09.695 be critical of whether it's Taylor Facier or Class Facier. 0:43:10.055 --> 0:43:13.895 Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident 0:43:13.975 --> 0:43:17.015 Builder with Peter Wolfcat call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten 0:43:17.095 --> 0:43:19.895 eighty Youth Talk ZB, your. 0:43:19.855 --> 0:43:22.695 New TALKSZB, welcome back to the show. Eight hundred eighty 0:43:22.855 --> 0:43:25.015 ten eighty Is that number to call if you've got 0:43:25.015 --> 0:43:33.335 a question of a building nature, whether that's materials, processes, legislation, contractors, 0:43:34.535 --> 0:43:37.055 legislation in terms of what you can do yourself and 0:43:37.095 --> 0:43:39.855 what you can't, we can talk about all of these 0:43:39.895 --> 0:43:42.495 sorts of things if you've got projects on and again 0:43:42.535 --> 0:43:45.975 I love that call, just very briefly from Don talking 0:43:46.015 --> 0:43:49.575 about a wood turning competition, and part of me was 0:43:49.735 --> 0:43:52.215 listening to that thinking are there enough people doing wood 0:43:52.215 --> 0:43:54.615 turning to make, you know, to get a team together 0:43:54.655 --> 0:43:58.615 effectively for a competition, But I actually think it's it's 0:43:58.695 --> 0:44:01.895 surprisingly popular, and the number of people that have probably 0:44:01.895 --> 0:44:05.215 got a lathe in the shed or you know, under 0:44:05.255 --> 0:44:06.975 the house in the basement and that sort of thing 0:44:07.015 --> 0:44:10.895 and doing the wood turning probably quite large numbers. And 0:44:10.935 --> 0:44:13.575 the idea of a fifteen minute competition to turn a 0:44:13.615 --> 0:44:16.375 bowl all using the same size piece of timber, the 0:44:16.415 --> 0:44:21.095 same type of timber and similar lathes would actually be 0:44:21.695 --> 0:44:24.095 quite good to watch. I have to say it's very 0:44:24.135 --> 0:44:28.535 tempting anyway. The man mone We Two wood Workers Guild 0:44:29.015 --> 0:44:31.375 will be holding that competition on the eighteenth of May. 0:44:31.775 --> 0:44:35.775 I have to say I'm sorely tempted not to participate, 0:44:35.855 --> 0:44:37.775 and like I said, I haven't used Alaye since nineteen 0:44:37.775 --> 0:44:41.695 seventy eight, but to watch it would be great fun. Oh, 0:44:41.735 --> 0:44:43.775 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's talk all things 0:44:43.855 --> 0:44:49.255 building and construction. I mentioned changes. I guess to legislation 0:44:50.175 --> 0:44:52.935 we can talk about that, and also from time to time. 0:44:53.015 --> 0:44:55.815 And I suppose as the weather turns from summer to winter, 0:44:56.255 --> 0:44:58.575 we start looking a little bit more critically at how 0:44:58.655 --> 0:45:05.455 well our roofs and our stormwater deals with collecting and 0:45:06.095 --> 0:45:10.655 die erecting the rainfall that lands on our roofs to 0:45:11.455 --> 0:45:14.375 the stormwater system, and so a lot of calls over 0:45:14.375 --> 0:45:19.495 the last little while around. I guess it was a 0:45:19.535 --> 0:45:23.495 system from the nineteen nineties. I guess that seemed it 0:45:23.615 --> 0:45:27.415 was very popular at the time, particularly in developments where 0:45:27.895 --> 0:45:31.575 you had effectively a facire on the outside and then 0:45:31.655 --> 0:45:35.375 you had concealed spouting behind it. So typically when you 0:45:35.455 --> 0:45:37.135 look at a New Zealand house, you've got a bit 0:45:37.175 --> 0:45:39.255 of fashion board and then we clip on some spouting 0:45:39.295 --> 0:45:43.655 on the outside of that. And so many people have 0:45:43.975 --> 0:45:47.055 had troubles with it, whether the capacity is not right, 0:45:47.135 --> 0:45:51.975 the number of down pipes is not sufficient anymore, and 0:45:52.015 --> 0:45:53.895 so on and so forth, and what the systems are. 0:45:53.895 --> 0:45:55.655 A couple of people of text and said, hey, look 0:45:55.975 --> 0:45:58.095 I've got it that I've kind of solved the problem 0:45:58.695 --> 0:46:03.095 or alleviated the problem installing overflows and then changed the 0:46:03.095 --> 0:46:06.615 square down pipes into eighty mili round down pipes extra 0:46:06.695 --> 0:46:09.175 downpipe where it was easy to connect to the existing 0:46:09.255 --> 0:46:13.815 stormwater drainage. This released the pressure on the system. Problem solved, 0:46:14.055 --> 0:46:17.775 says Bushy. And he said he followed up with them 0:46:18.295 --> 0:46:21.855 to install an extra downpipe close to the valleys, as 0:46:21.895 --> 0:46:24.615 that's where the highest volume of water comes down. Which 0:46:24.695 --> 0:46:26.255 makes a lot of sense, isn't it, Because what you're 0:46:26.255 --> 0:46:28.335 talking about with the valley is where two pictures of 0:46:28.375 --> 0:46:32.855 the roof combine their stormwater collection into a valley and 0:46:32.895 --> 0:46:35.415 then shoot that down towards the spouting. So that's where 0:46:35.415 --> 0:46:37.855 you're going to have a lot a concentrated amount of 0:46:37.855 --> 0:46:40.655 water coming down. So if you install a downpipe near 0:46:40.695 --> 0:46:43.495 to that, if you can the only kind of And 0:46:43.535 --> 0:46:45.815 I was looking at a roof the other day, which 0:46:46.055 --> 0:46:50.015 you know, to nineteen sixties building, and they had one 0:46:50.055 --> 0:46:51.735 down pipe on one side of the house and one 0:46:51.775 --> 0:46:54.135 down pipe on the other. And we're talking a building 0:46:54.295 --> 0:46:57.015 of maybe a roof space of sort of one hundred 0:46:57.055 --> 0:47:02.135 and fifty odd square meters with two down pipes and 0:47:02.255 --> 0:47:06.535 a long way to run, you know, and that's not 0:47:06.735 --> 0:47:08.735 going to be great. But then the challenge is, Okay, 0:47:08.775 --> 0:47:10.975 if I wanted to add an extra downpipe, I've got 0:47:10.975 --> 0:47:13.535 to connect that to the storm water, which might mean 0:47:14.295 --> 0:47:18.095 having to drill through the basement and sling a new 0:47:18.135 --> 0:47:20.695 down pipe underneath and collect up. And then I've still 0:47:20.735 --> 0:47:23.815 only got one connection point. The idea of digging up 0:47:23.855 --> 0:47:26.815 the storm water in the ground and running a whole 0:47:26.855 --> 0:47:29.735 new pipe. Suddenly it becomes a much bigger job. So 0:47:30.215 --> 0:47:32.775 there can be some challenges. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 0:47:32.855 --> 0:47:38.975 Let's get into it, Tony. Good morning, Hello Tony. 0:47:39.895 --> 0:47:43.135 Oh yes, sorry, how are you breakfast? 0:47:44.575 --> 0:47:45.255 Fair enough to? 0:47:46.775 --> 0:47:50.175 Yeah? Look, I've got one hundred year old house and 0:47:50.215 --> 0:47:54.335 at the back of the property is a garage right 0:47:54.415 --> 0:47:57.975 on the boundary. It's sort of been converted into a 0:47:58.215 --> 0:48:04.215 rumpus room sleep out sort of story. Yes, it's plaid 0:48:04.655 --> 0:48:08.055 in five the light and because. 0:48:08.575 --> 0:48:12.575 Boundary, you sure it's fiber light not an asbestos type material. 0:48:14.415 --> 0:48:19.695 Well, either way, I know what you mean, okay. And 0:48:21.135 --> 0:48:23.375 because it's on the boundary. We don't really see it, 0:48:23.655 --> 0:48:26.175 but I had a look the other day and some 0:48:26.215 --> 0:48:29.255 of the sheets are cracked and broken and things like that. 0:48:29.775 --> 0:48:35.495 It has about fifteen mills of jib board on the 0:48:35.535 --> 0:48:38.215 studs and then the i'll call it fiber light there 0:48:38.255 --> 0:48:41.455 has been stuck onto that, like nailed through into the 0:48:41.495 --> 0:48:42.095 stud work. 0:48:42.655 --> 0:48:45.015 So there's plaster board on the outside of the framing 0:48:45.095 --> 0:48:47.455 and then the sheathing over the top of that. 0:48:48.615 --> 0:48:53.095 Yes, I presume because it's on it's on the boundary 0:48:53.335 --> 0:48:55.455 that it's probably fire rated. 0:48:55.775 --> 0:48:56.055 Yep. 0:48:56.375 --> 0:49:04.815 Yeah, Okay, So I don't want to reclad. Can I 0:49:04.855 --> 0:49:09.175 Can I get new fiber light and stick it on 0:49:09.295 --> 0:49:13.855 top of the existing stuff that's there? And if I 0:49:14.015 --> 0:49:17.615 do that, what what do I need to glue it 0:49:17.655 --> 0:49:24.215 with any. 0:49:22.975 --> 0:49:26.015 And I presume this is just to make the building 0:49:26.055 --> 0:49:28.975 more durable. This isn't to turn it into a habitable 0:49:29.015 --> 0:49:30.135 space or anything like that. 0:49:30.175 --> 0:49:30.575 It's going to. 0:49:33.495 --> 0:49:36.295 I'm just concerned because the sheets are cracked and all 0:49:37.415 --> 0:49:41.055 somebody's gone to before and tried to repair it and 0:49:41.735 --> 0:49:45.175 they've just sort of squirted group everywhere. 0:49:47.175 --> 0:49:52.415 Yeah, I just I suppose I would. My caution would 0:49:52.415 --> 0:49:54.855 be around, do you know what you're dealing with in 0:49:54.935 --> 0:49:57.775 terms of the cladding. This is just from a safety 0:49:57.815 --> 0:50:02.935 point of view, so I think to be sure that 0:50:02.975 --> 0:50:07.735 you're not inadvertently going to cause us exposure to asbestos, 0:50:07.775 --> 0:50:11.415 I would take a small sample off, put it into 0:50:11.415 --> 0:50:13.415 a plastic bags a plot bag, take it down to 0:50:13.415 --> 0:50:16.855 a laboratory and get it tested in terms of whether 0:50:16.935 --> 0:50:20.215 or not it's acm SO an asbestos containing material. Given 0:50:20.295 --> 0:50:23.295 the vintage of it, it's likely to have asbestos in it. 0:50:23.695 --> 0:50:28.375 And the only reason I'm cautious around that is that inevitably, 0:50:28.415 --> 0:50:31.615 if you're going to fix an other type of sheathing 0:50:31.735 --> 0:50:34.295 over the top of it, like another fiber cement sheet 0:50:34.335 --> 0:50:37.815 for example, you're going to have to penetrate that existing one, 0:50:38.015 --> 0:50:41.415 so drill through, for example, and when you drill through, 0:50:41.535 --> 0:50:46.615 you'll create dust. That dust is fibers that could become airborne, right, 0:50:47.415 --> 0:50:49.575 So either you're going to breathe it in or it's 0:50:49.575 --> 0:50:51.695 going to fall on the ground and potentially someone else 0:50:51.735 --> 0:50:53.815 will be in contact with it. So I think it's 0:50:53.855 --> 0:50:56.935 really important to do the testing to determine what it 0:50:56.975 --> 0:51:00.095 is that you're dealing with. If it is asbestos, then 0:51:00.215 --> 0:51:01.935 you can carry on and do the work, but you 0:51:02.015 --> 0:51:05.655 need to then control the risk of exposure to the asbestos. 0:51:07.015 --> 0:51:09.895 So let's say let's say you had it tested and 0:51:09.935 --> 0:51:12.815 it doesn't have any asbestos in it. I would think 0:51:12.855 --> 0:51:17.335 that you'd slightly scuff the surface. Is it painted or 0:51:17.455 --> 0:51:21.855 not painted? It's being painted, it's being painted, okay. So 0:51:22.095 --> 0:51:25.255 the issue is if you put some adhesive onto the paint, 0:51:25.575 --> 0:51:27.335 it'll stick to the paint. But we don't know if 0:51:27.375 --> 0:51:31.215 this paint's going to stay stuck to the she thing, right, 0:51:31.295 --> 0:51:35.015 so you might want to scuff it or even you know, 0:51:35.255 --> 0:51:38.055 just remove the paint coding where you're going to apply 0:51:38.135 --> 0:51:41.535 some adhesive, or you just use fixings, right, So determine 0:51:41.535 --> 0:51:44.335 where the studs are and the nogs are if it's 0:51:44.375 --> 0:51:47.935 got nogs, and then go okay, And I would probably 0:51:47.975 --> 0:51:50.015 set my sheets up in such a way that they 0:51:50.055 --> 0:51:53.895 don't match the existing one, so overlap by half. So 0:51:53.935 --> 0:51:56.135 if you've got the sheets at twelve hundred and the 0:51:56.175 --> 0:51:59.495 studs at six hundred centers, offset them so that your 0:51:59.735 --> 0:52:03.215 new sheet laps over the join and the old one, 0:52:03.335 --> 0:52:05.815 so they're staggered it. You know, you know what I mean? 0:52:06.015 --> 0:52:06.855 Yeah, I understand. 0:52:08.175 --> 0:52:11.695 So then I would probably just clean the surface down 0:52:12.175 --> 0:52:14.935 if if you think it will adhere, you could put 0:52:14.975 --> 0:52:17.895 some dobs of sealant onto it. Otherwise I'd get the 0:52:17.935 --> 0:52:22.575 new sheets, set them up, offset, fix them through with 0:52:22.775 --> 0:52:25.855 maybe a stain you know, just go for a stainless steel, 0:52:25.895 --> 0:52:29.015 even a panhead, right, don't try and hide their fixings 0:52:29.255 --> 0:52:31.575 so you're not drilling through and trying to countersink it. 0:52:32.015 --> 0:52:34.175 And then just fix your new sheets over the top 0:52:34.215 --> 0:52:36.935 of the old ones, and just a silicon bead in 0:52:36.975 --> 0:52:39.375 the joint because you know it's a double layer of 0:52:39.455 --> 0:52:44.255 waterproofing it's unlikely to leak. And then fix a new 0:52:44.255 --> 0:52:48.015 sheet over the top silicon the joints, paint it and 0:52:48.335 --> 0:52:50.415 job done. 0:52:50.975 --> 0:52:54.215 And what's what adhesive would you use if you're going 0:52:54.255 --> 0:52:54.535 to go. 0:52:55.975 --> 0:52:58.535 I mean, something as simple as max bond would probably work. 0:52:58.615 --> 0:53:02.815 I know I've pretty much started using them. There's a 0:53:02.815 --> 0:53:07.415 Pseudle product called fix All which I find really really good, 0:53:08.095 --> 0:53:12.975 so pseud Ale or Gorilla fix all. So fix All 0:53:13.095 --> 0:53:13.655 is really good. 0:53:15.535 --> 0:53:16.895 Thank you very much, good luck. 0:53:16.775 --> 0:53:18.935 Take care of it. But you know, just just so 0:53:19.015 --> 0:53:22.615 I can sleep at night, make sure you do the testing, eh, yes, please, 0:53:22.695 --> 0:53:25.695 all right, all of this, thanks take care, sir, oh 0:53:25.735 --> 0:53:28.895 eight hundred eighty eighty the number to call. It's let 0:53:28.895 --> 0:53:32.975 me see seventeen minutes after seven Catherine, Good morning, Yes, 0:53:32.975 --> 0:53:33.895 good morning Pete. 0:53:35.255 --> 0:53:39.735 Hello, my neighbor and I were wandering. We've had a 0:53:39.935 --> 0:53:44.815 section sold just across the road from us, or down 0:53:44.855 --> 0:53:47.535 the road further. There's been those you know, little shoe 0:53:47.575 --> 0:53:55.895 boxes built two stories high. And then somebody told us that, oh, 0:53:55.975 --> 0:53:59.815 how I say this quickly? Well, anyway, can can three 0:53:59.935 --> 0:54:01.575 storied buildings be built? 0:54:01.895 --> 0:54:02.295 Still? 0:54:03.215 --> 0:54:06.095 Yes? Oh, but. 0:54:07.935 --> 0:54:12.815 It's always slightly more complex than that. So funny. I 0:54:12.855 --> 0:54:17.935 was reading an article yesterday. So some of this comes 0:54:17.935 --> 0:54:24.615 out from the planning regulations around medium density, right, And 0:54:24.735 --> 0:54:28.375 so if you cast your mind back a little while ago, 0:54:29.055 --> 0:54:31.855 when Labor was in power, they actually did like a 0:54:31.975 --> 0:54:37.055 bipad partisan agreement with National to say, what we want 0:54:37.095 --> 0:54:41.855 to do is introduce legislation that will allow three story 0:54:41.895 --> 0:54:46.815 buildings to be built on typical residential sites without necessarily 0:54:46.855 --> 0:54:51.335 requiring a resource consent, which, to be fair, I thought 0:54:51.415 --> 0:54:56.335 was madness and would lead to some terrible outcomes. And 0:54:56.415 --> 0:54:59.775 I was surprised that it got bipartisan support. Now that 0:55:00.015 --> 0:55:03.655 now has been rescinded, so that I think at the 0:55:03.655 --> 0:55:07.215 moment there's still requirement for a resource consent, but in 0:55:07.295 --> 0:55:11.575 most of our urban areas there is a move to intensification, right, 0:55:11.655 --> 0:55:17.295 So we want to have more people living closer to transport, 0:55:17.375 --> 0:55:19.815 hubs and facilities and so on, and one way of 0:55:19.855 --> 0:55:24.575 doing that is to take three bedroom cottage off and 0:55:24.655 --> 0:55:32.895 put on multi units. And in some cases it was 0:55:32.975 --> 0:55:35.575 like you could do that pretty much anywhere unless it 0:55:35.615 --> 0:55:40.775 was like a special heritage zone. To be fair, it 0:55:40.855 --> 0:55:43.295 feels like that legislation is in a little bit of 0:55:43.295 --> 0:55:47.375 a state of flux, but more and more parts of 0:55:47.575 --> 0:55:52.495 large urban environments can have that. This for you, if 0:55:52.495 --> 0:55:55.495 you go to the council website, your local council website, 0:55:55.535 --> 0:55:59.735 you should be able to bring up planning legislation. I 0:55:59.775 --> 0:56:02.495 suspect that if you've found that further down the street 0:56:03.015 --> 0:56:05.215 they've been able to do it, then chances are they 0:56:05.255 --> 0:56:08.135 might be able to do it next to you. But 0:56:08.455 --> 0:56:11.135 there are when you go onto the council websites, this 0:56:11.135 --> 0:56:13.735 would be true right across the country. You can see 0:56:13.775 --> 0:56:17.655 what the urban zones are, how they're divided up, and 0:56:17.735 --> 0:56:21.735 so there's there's some urban zones that are quite specifically 0:56:22.015 --> 0:56:26.455 one dwelling per site, right and that can't change. But 0:56:26.535 --> 0:56:32.055 there are other urban zones which are mixed residential or 0:56:32.775 --> 0:56:37.495 designed for intensification. And then in those areas, yes, people 0:56:37.575 --> 0:56:41.335 can do multi story buildings. Three story buildings are increasingly 0:56:41.415 --> 0:56:45.495 common and you might end up with three or four 0:56:46.055 --> 0:56:52.455 right next to your house. Yes, it's possible. God yeah, 0:56:52.575 --> 0:56:54.855 And I mean, you know, obviously I'm a bit more 0:56:54.855 --> 0:56:56.655 familiar with Auckland because that's where I live and I 0:56:56.735 --> 0:57:00.375 drive around and there are lots of these developments happening. 0:57:02.415 --> 0:57:07.415 Can apply the individual house go through be built through stories. 0:57:07.055 --> 0:57:14.295 Yes, yes, if the planning legislation allows for it. You know, 0:57:14.935 --> 0:57:18.815 you could get a planner to consult for you. But 0:57:19.015 --> 0:57:21.615 I think it's actually pretty straightforward. If you go to 0:57:21.735 --> 0:57:25.775 the council websites, search through the planning legislation into your address, 0:57:26.215 --> 0:57:30.335 into the GIS, which is an online tool, and that 0:57:30.375 --> 0:57:33.415 will show you all sorts of things about where services 0:57:33.455 --> 0:57:38.495 are located, what natural hazards might be. I know, for 0:57:38.535 --> 0:57:41.615 Auckland Council, for example, they've updated or they've created a 0:57:41.655 --> 0:57:44.015 new platform that allows you to see whether you're in 0:57:44.055 --> 0:57:47.735 a flood zone or what the impact of flooding has 0:57:47.815 --> 0:57:52.215 been that's been fascinating. I find it fascinating to look 0:57:52.255 --> 0:57:55.535 at that, and it's updated data, so it's based on 0:57:55.935 --> 0:57:59.495 you know, recent events that have indicated that perhaps zones 0:57:59.495 --> 0:58:02.215 that are likely to be impacted by flooding are much 0:58:02.255 --> 0:58:04.975 more extensive than we might have expected in the past. 0:58:05.815 --> 0:58:07.735 So that'll be in there, and that's the sort of 0:58:07.735 --> 0:58:11.255 thing that might prevent development, you know, if counsel might say, well, 0:58:11.295 --> 0:58:15.255 actually that area there is in fact now flood prone. 0:58:15.615 --> 0:58:18.255 So yes, you could build, but your floor level has 0:58:18.295 --> 0:58:21.135 to be higher, in which case the building then might 0:58:21.175 --> 0:58:24.575 exceed heightened relation to boundary, and therefore you could do 0:58:24.615 --> 0:58:29.095 two stories but not three stories. But there is a 0:58:29.135 --> 0:58:31.735 lot of detail available online if you want to take 0:58:31.775 --> 0:58:34.455 the time to sort of go through it, or like 0:58:34.495 --> 0:58:37.495 I say, you could ring a planner and just go, hey, 0:58:37.615 --> 0:58:40.815 what's likely to happen? I guess. The other thing that 0:58:40.975 --> 0:58:44.255 sometimes comes as a shock to home owners or property 0:58:44.295 --> 0:58:48.175 owners is that those sorts of buildings can be built 0:58:48.255 --> 0:58:50.615 and you actually don't get a say in it. So 0:58:51.055 --> 0:58:55.535 some resource consents are not notifiable or non notifiable, in 0:58:55.575 --> 0:58:59.575 which case developer property developer can go to council make 0:58:59.615 --> 0:59:03.575 an application with a resource consent and they can grant 0:59:03.655 --> 0:59:09.335 that without having to consult with neighbors, in which case 0:59:09.335 --> 0:59:11.335 you don't actually have a lot of ground for objection. 0:59:11.815 --> 0:59:17.015 Every now and then, some residential developments require the agreement 0:59:17.215 --> 0:59:20.735 of a neighbor, so you know, they might say, well, look, 0:59:20.735 --> 0:59:24.295 actually it's it's slightly too high in that corner. Could 0:59:24.335 --> 0:59:26.335 you sign off on it? And then you could sign 0:59:26.375 --> 0:59:30.295 off on it, but you could also decline it, and 0:59:30.335 --> 0:59:33.895 then they'd have to go through a more extensive process 0:59:33.895 --> 0:59:39.495 to try and get permission for it. So not necessarily 0:59:39.495 --> 0:59:42.535 a simple answer. But the you know, planning legislation is 0:59:43.015 --> 0:59:46.335 quite complex and it deals with so many kind of 0:59:46.375 --> 0:59:54.015 moving parts and literally you know, again, if you take 0:59:54.095 --> 0:59:55.295 the time and go and have a look on the 0:59:55.415 --> 0:59:57.975 on the planning maps, you might find that, you know, 0:59:58.815 --> 1:00:03.015 houses on one side of the street are zoned you 1:00:03.015 --> 1:00:06.895 know for intensification or medium density, and how on the 1:00:06.935 --> 1:00:09.895 other side of the street will be restricted to single 1:00:09.975 --> 1:00:15.535 dwellings per site, or one end of a street will 1:00:15.535 --> 1:00:19.055 be zoned for intensification and the other end of the 1:00:19.055 --> 1:00:19.775 street won't be. 1:00:21.495 --> 1:00:24.215 Oh thank you for that information. I will pop on 1:00:24.335 --> 1:00:25.415 line and have. 1:00:25.415 --> 1:00:25.895 A look. 1:00:27.215 --> 1:00:32.295 Quite the gis in particular and I use the Augland 1:00:32.295 --> 1:00:35.855 Council one, you know, seemingly fairly regularly, but I'm sure 1:00:35.855 --> 1:00:40.215 most councils around the country will have that information available online. 1:00:40.295 --> 1:00:42.535 Okay on an Aorkland anyway. 1:00:42.415 --> 1:00:45.455 Okay, just go to the Auckland Council website and navigate 1:00:45.455 --> 1:00:46.135 your away from there. 1:00:46.935 --> 1:00:49.335 Oh, thank you so much, Pete, Thank you so much. 1:00:49.375 --> 1:00:51.695 A little nice to talk to you. Thank you, Catherine. 1:00:52.495 --> 1:00:55.135 Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number 1:00:55.175 --> 1:00:59.295 to call? Had a couple of texts. You know, we 1:00:59.335 --> 1:01:02.335 talked about roofing, but some pieces someone has texed through 1:01:02.815 --> 1:01:05.895 had no idea that the Roofing Association of New Zealand existed. 1:01:07.215 --> 1:01:10.095 I've mentioned them a number of times. I've been involved 1:01:10.095 --> 1:01:12.335 with a couple of their events. I got to know 1:01:12.415 --> 1:01:17.095 some of the people involved with the Roofing Association over 1:01:17.135 --> 1:01:20.815 the years. It's a this is where I really do 1:01:20.895 --> 1:01:26.855 support these sorts of professional bodies, let's say, or trade 1:01:27.215 --> 1:01:33.255 organization bodies, whether it's Master Plumbers, the Roofing Association, New Zealand, 1:01:33.295 --> 1:01:36.495 Institute of Building Surveys, all of these sorts of organizations 1:01:36.535 --> 1:01:39.615 that are there where people can apply for membership. And 1:01:39.695 --> 1:01:42.175 I think particularly in terms of roofing. You know that 1:01:42.615 --> 1:01:46.535 I think there's some certainty or surety for consumers. You 1:01:46.615 --> 1:01:49.895 and I that if we're dealing with a contractor who 1:01:50.335 --> 1:01:54.535 has sought and had approval to be a member of 1:01:54.815 --> 1:01:58.095 an organization like this, like the Roofing Association of New Zealand, 1:01:58.455 --> 1:02:02.015 that you know, outside of sort of government or local 1:02:02.055 --> 1:02:04.975 government or LBP control, you've got a body that you 1:02:05.055 --> 1:02:07.175 can go to if you've got an issue with that 1:02:07.255 --> 1:02:12.015 particular contractor. So my advice has always been, if you're 1:02:12.015 --> 1:02:16.295 getting roofing work done of whatever description, just check and 1:02:16.335 --> 1:02:18.735 see whether the person is a member of the Roofing 1:02:18.775 --> 1:02:21.415 Association of New Zealand. That would be my advice. I 1:02:21.535 --> 1:02:23.495 eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call 1:02:23.535 --> 1:02:27.975 twenty coming up, twenty six minutes away, twenty six after seven. 1:02:28.415 --> 1:02:30.615 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call if 1:02:30.615 --> 1:02:33.295 you've got a building question, whether it's the old garage 1:02:33.375 --> 1:02:38.175 reclad or you're talking about planning legislation, we're talking wood turning, 1:02:38.175 --> 1:02:41.735 we're talking landscaping, we're talking the old concealed spouting and 1:02:41.775 --> 1:02:44.975 facia and recent storms and the impact that they've had. 1:02:44.975 --> 1:02:47.855 And I've tuned in with interest to the news story 1:02:47.895 --> 1:02:51.975 around seven o'clock this morning, talking about people and the 1:02:52.735 --> 1:02:56.615 sort of sense of unrest or disquiet that we have 1:02:56.735 --> 1:02:59.895 now with weather events, wondering are our houses okay? And 1:02:59.935 --> 1:03:03.335 I mean, look, there's significant slips and flooding in the 1:03:03.375 --> 1:03:07.215 South Island round Selwyn. I have to say I looked 1:03:07.215 --> 1:03:09.855 at there was a photograph that appeared online of a 1:03:10.215 --> 1:03:13.175 There's been a lot of criticism around the extent of 1:03:13.215 --> 1:03:16.655 the development in Selwyn and its impact potentially on flooding. 1:03:16.695 --> 1:03:20.815 Selwyn's one of the fastest growing regions in the country. 1:03:21.175 --> 1:03:23.575 You can measure that through building consents and so on. 1:03:24.335 --> 1:03:27.055 And the photograph that I saw was a street with 1:03:27.135 --> 1:03:30.975 a whole lot of houses under construction and the portloo 1:03:31.015 --> 1:03:36.375 basically floating down in the flooding. So you'd go, okay, 1:03:36.655 --> 1:03:40.215 they've got problems with flooding right now. What happens when 1:03:40.215 --> 1:03:43.735 the subdivision's finished? Fair question? I think twenty seven minutes 1:03:43.775 --> 1:03:46.695 after seven your news talk set b people of Camp 1:03:46.735 --> 1:03:48.615 with you this morning. The lines are open. The number 1:03:48.615 --> 1:03:51.175 to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty met. 1:03:51.135 --> 1:03:55.135 Twice God was but maybe called Pete first, Peter Wolfcamp. 1:03:55.295 --> 1:03:57.335 The resident Builder News Talk sa'd be. 1:04:00.735 --> 1:04:03.335 Your news talk se be open line on all things 1:04:03.335 --> 1:04:10.535 building and construction. Pete, I think you baffled, Catherine, I 1:04:10.575 --> 1:04:13.735 hope not. Most people don't understand there's a difference between 1:04:13.775 --> 1:04:21.375 a resource consent and a building consent. That's from bill. Yeah. 1:04:21.495 --> 1:04:23.575 In fact, yes, I had a similar discussion with someone 1:04:23.655 --> 1:04:28.575 yesterday actually in terms of a resource consent issued for 1:04:28.895 --> 1:04:33.335 a fairly extensive renovation in a heritage area, and that 1:04:34.295 --> 1:04:38.015 council were not signing off on the resource consent at 1:04:38.095 --> 1:04:45.215 the end of the bill because allegedly one of the 1:04:45.255 --> 1:04:48.015 elements that was included in the resource consent was not 1:04:48.095 --> 1:04:52.975 done as per the resource consent. So try and do 1:04:53.055 --> 1:04:56.175 this as simply as I can. So if you're doing 1:04:56.215 --> 1:04:59.375 a development where you have to get a resource consent 1:04:59.575 --> 1:05:03.015 before you can get building consent, So typically if it's 1:05:03.255 --> 1:05:06.015 in a heritage zone for example, or if you're doing 1:05:06.375 --> 1:05:09.415 intensification or subdivisions that sort of thing, there'll be a 1:05:09.455 --> 1:05:12.335 resource consent that needs to be issued by the council 1:05:12.495 --> 1:05:14.535 prior to you being You have to get the resource 1:05:14.535 --> 1:05:16.735 consent before you get the building consent. You get the 1:05:16.735 --> 1:05:18.695 building consent, you go ahead. You do the work, you 1:05:18.735 --> 1:05:22.055 get your final inspection. If you pass the final inspection, 1:05:22.175 --> 1:05:27.135 you can submit for a CCC, so a code compliance 1:05:27.135 --> 1:05:30.615 certificate at the end of the project. I don't know 1:05:30.615 --> 1:05:33.935 whether you can get your code of compliance without having 1:05:33.975 --> 1:05:36.655 the resource consent signed off. So, for example, with a 1:05:36.695 --> 1:05:39.855 resource consent, there might be a requirement to ensure that 1:05:39.935 --> 1:05:44.175 the impermeable and permeable areas are set down. It's a 1:05:44.215 --> 1:05:46.495 certain amount of site coverage that you're allowed to do. 1:05:47.015 --> 1:05:50.655 And so when you've finished the development, you go back 1:05:50.695 --> 1:05:56.415 to council, ask the resource consents Compliance Monitoring officer to 1:05:56.535 --> 1:05:59.975 come out with the resource consent details and look at 1:05:59.975 --> 1:06:03.055 the project and go, okay, is the driveway the width 1:06:03.055 --> 1:06:05.175 that we said that it was permissible in terms of 1:06:05.295 --> 1:06:08.695 impermeable or if the driveway was going to be permeable, 1:06:09.575 --> 1:06:12.895 has it been done as permeable as their sufficient planting 1:06:13.175 --> 1:06:16.255 the fences as? But whatever the regulations around the resource 1:06:16.295 --> 1:06:19.175 consent are. In this case, it was a heritage issue 1:06:19.215 --> 1:06:23.895 around chimneys. So then they'll sign off the resource consent. 1:06:23.935 --> 1:06:26.775 And I'm pretty sure you can't get your coded clients 1:06:27.015 --> 1:06:30.015 until the resource consent has been signed off. So if 1:06:30.055 --> 1:06:32.215 there are conditions in the resource consent. You have to 1:06:32.255 --> 1:06:34.775 prove that you've met them and then the building will 1:06:34.815 --> 1:06:38.975 be compliant. So yeah, there is there is some power 1:06:39.255 --> 1:06:41.655 in the resource consent as well. Oh, eight hundred and 1:06:41.695 --> 1:06:45.575 eighty ten eighty the number to call Gail hellelou there ah. 1:06:45.495 --> 1:06:48.335 Hi, I only heard the second part of that call 1:06:48.415 --> 1:06:52.775 regarding fixing over asbestos cladding. So be question was that 1:06:52.855 --> 1:06:53.735 for a garage. 1:06:53.975 --> 1:06:56.255 It was for a garage. It was an older garage. 1:06:56.375 --> 1:06:59.095 It's used as kind of a sort of a rumpus room, 1:06:59.175 --> 1:07:02.655 not really habitable space. They're not trying to upgrade it 1:07:02.735 --> 1:07:05.855 into a habitable space, which would require a building consent. 1:07:06.775 --> 1:07:09.055 It's just it's starting to get some cracks in it, 1:07:09.255 --> 1:07:13.495 and what's a solution. Well, one solution is to just 1:07:13.735 --> 1:07:17.375 sheath right over the top of it. But at the 1:07:17.415 --> 1:07:22.815 same time, and I've had a couple of texts and yeah, 1:07:23.015 --> 1:07:25.375 people going off, why don't you take it off and 1:07:25.375 --> 1:07:26.975 do it properly and all the rest of it. Well, 1:07:27.415 --> 1:07:30.775 in some cases just putting it over is an acceptable solution. 1:07:31.015 --> 1:07:33.535 It's an official term. I'm not suggesting this is an 1:07:33.535 --> 1:07:35.655 official way of doing it, but you know, every now 1:07:35.655 --> 1:07:39.455 and then we do stuff in building that it might 1:07:39.495 --> 1:07:42.695 not be compliant or whatever or technically part of the rules, 1:07:42.695 --> 1:07:45.295 but it works, right, So adding she thing over the 1:07:45.295 --> 1:07:47.935 top of an old garage is one way of fixing 1:07:47.975 --> 1:07:48.455 the problem. 1:07:49.255 --> 1:07:49.575 Yeah. 1:07:49.655 --> 1:07:53.095 Okay, my daughter's brought up a two story house and 1:07:53.415 --> 1:07:55.215 the bottom part of it's breaking. The top parts is 1:07:55.375 --> 1:07:59.215 festos that needs recreating, and I did suggest to her 1:07:59.335 --> 1:08:00.895 maybe you can fix it over top of it. 1:08:03.015 --> 1:08:06.415 Yeah, except I think if that sort of thing, I 1:08:06.415 --> 1:08:10.415 think you'd be you'd be struggling to do that and 1:08:10.535 --> 1:08:13.535 do it as repairs and maintenance under Schedule one of 1:08:13.535 --> 1:08:19.975 the Building Act, right, So I would I'd probably get 1:08:20.055 --> 1:08:23.455 some advice either from building survey or go directly to council. 1:08:23.575 --> 1:08:26.735 But I don't feel that you would be able to 1:08:26.815 --> 1:08:30.055 just go, hey, look, it's essentially it's like a flat 1:08:30.095 --> 1:08:35.335 fiber cement or is it a profiled material plaid shadow 1:08:35.335 --> 1:08:36.575 clads not asbestos? 1:08:37.575 --> 1:08:38.455 Oh, isn't it? 1:08:39.415 --> 1:08:39.655 Maybe? 1:08:40.775 --> 1:08:41.015 Yeah? 1:08:41.295 --> 1:08:43.775 I think go and get it tested. And the reason 1:08:43.895 --> 1:08:46.455 for the reclad is that the cladding is no longer 1:08:46.455 --> 1:08:46.975 weather tight. 1:08:48.415 --> 1:08:48.815 Correct. 1:08:48.855 --> 1:08:51.855 Yeah, the previous ogners have just let it run down 1:08:51.935 --> 1:08:54.295 so much. You know, people mad how they do that? 1:08:57.895 --> 1:09:04.015 Look it happens, and it's not terribly uncommon. I think, yeah, okay, 1:09:04.175 --> 1:09:07.055 and look, if they were going to reclaud I think, 1:09:07.535 --> 1:09:10.535 I mean there are This is just to throw something 1:09:10.535 --> 1:09:14.295 else into the mix. There's quite a lot of sort 1:09:14.295 --> 1:09:19.615 of development going on around. It's driven by re the 1:09:19.655 --> 1:09:22.735 desire to add more insulation to existing houses. 1:09:22.815 --> 1:09:23.015 Right. 1:09:23.095 --> 1:09:26.015 So you know, anything prior to nineteen seventy eight probably 1:09:26.015 --> 1:09:28.855 doesn't have any insulation in the exterior walls. Some of 1:09:28.895 --> 1:09:32.135 the insulation would be poor quality, et cetera. So typically 1:09:32.175 --> 1:09:35.015 we kind of pull off linings and add insulation into 1:09:35.055 --> 1:09:39.215 the existing cavities in the wall. There are also now 1:09:39.335 --> 1:09:43.495 some systems being developed where the insulation is added to 1:09:43.535 --> 1:09:45.975 the exterior of the building. So you leave the old 1:09:46.535 --> 1:09:49.935 line of the old cladding on, you add battens and 1:09:49.975 --> 1:09:52.615 create a cavity on the outside. You fill that cavity 1:09:52.615 --> 1:09:57.135 with insulation, and then you add new sheathing, new pladding 1:09:57.495 --> 1:10:01.175 to the exterior. One of the systems I've seen is 1:10:01.175 --> 1:10:06.055 one called Parker wrap. So yeah, Parker as in wearing 1:10:06.055 --> 1:10:10.575 a part so pa ka Parker Wrap. There might be 1:10:10.615 --> 1:10:12.975 some other systems out there as well, but this is 1:10:13.415 --> 1:10:16.215 a new system where you go actually let's leave what 1:10:16.295 --> 1:10:19.175 we've got intact, right, because it's quite disruptive pulling off 1:10:19.215 --> 1:10:21.335 all linings and all the rest of it. We'll leave 1:10:21.335 --> 1:10:24.495 it intact, and maybe we'll upgrade the joinery, but we'll 1:10:24.495 --> 1:10:29.095 add new insulation on the exterior and new exterior cladding. 1:10:29.695 --> 1:10:33.095 And so that type of system might also be a 1:10:33.135 --> 1:10:34.895 solution for your daughter. 1:10:35.575 --> 1:10:38.175 Product look into that, because I did think it because 1:10:38.215 --> 1:10:41.015 I have heard you talking about that before, and she 1:10:41.135 --> 1:10:43.655 was wondering about having to replace windows then as well. 1:10:43.655 --> 1:10:47.775 But you don't necessarily have to. I mean, obviously you 1:10:47.815 --> 1:10:50.295 need to do some detailing around the flashings, how you 1:10:50.335 --> 1:10:54.335 make that junction weather tight. But you know, if you've 1:10:54.375 --> 1:11:00.455 got old, poor quality joinery with single glazing, then yeah, 1:11:00.615 --> 1:11:04.335 maybe replacing it a big step towards getting a more 1:11:04.415 --> 1:11:05.575 higher performing house. 1:11:06.375 --> 1:11:08.655 Yeah, she wants. She's thinking of doing that also, it's 1:11:08.695 --> 1:11:10.775 just with the budget. Can afford it all? 1:11:11.015 --> 1:11:11.575 Yeah, I know. 1:11:12.455 --> 1:11:18.175 So another quick question this quick she's what large windows 1:11:18.215 --> 1:11:20.895 because it was architecturally designed, so she I know, you 1:11:20.895 --> 1:11:23.735 can't alter the woods, but if she wants to make 1:11:23.775 --> 1:11:25.695 them shorter, she says, it's a bit like a fish 1:11:25.695 --> 1:11:28.295 bowl and it'll be cheaper if she can get smaller windows. 1:11:28.775 --> 1:11:31.015 About altering the woods, do you need a consent of that? 1:11:33.695 --> 1:11:39.255 No? No, not really. I wonder whether making the windows 1:11:39.295 --> 1:11:42.535 small it means having to extend your cladding right to 1:11:42.615 --> 1:11:44.895 fill up the gap. So if it's a two and 1:11:44.935 --> 1:11:46.895 a half meter wide window and you decide to make 1:11:46.935 --> 1:11:49.535 it eighteen hundred, you've got six hundred of extra cladding 1:11:49.535 --> 1:11:57.135 that you're going to install, which means then you're doing 1:11:57.175 --> 1:12:01.495 cladding and cladding and weather tightness typically triggers a requirement 1:12:01.535 --> 1:12:04.495 for a building consent, but you know, you could you 1:12:04.495 --> 1:12:08.935 could have that discussion with counsel around Look, I'm just 1:12:09.695 --> 1:12:12.575 I'm adding like for like cladding, although in this instance 1:12:12.615 --> 1:12:14.415 you don't want to do like for like because you're 1:12:14.455 --> 1:12:15.775 actually thinking about recladding. 1:12:17.055 --> 1:12:22.855 M she'll do it properly, properly with everything else the 1:12:22.895 --> 1:12:25.335 window side, Whether that can be a dramat to make 1:12:25.375 --> 1:12:25.735 them well. 1:12:25.775 --> 1:12:28.255 It will make the building consent simpler because you're not 1:12:28.295 --> 1:12:31.015 having to do any you know, design around the span 1:12:31.095 --> 1:12:33.175 of the lintels and that sort of thing if you're 1:12:33.175 --> 1:12:35.495 making them smaller. And you're right, and I think what 1:12:36.015 --> 1:12:38.775 she's probably picked up on is something that you know, 1:12:39.055 --> 1:12:41.615 I mean I know that New Zealand we love the idea. 1:12:41.615 --> 1:12:43.735 If we've got a view, we want to maximize it, right, 1:12:43.815 --> 1:12:47.335 and typically we maximize it by installing joinery, you know, 1:12:47.495 --> 1:12:50.455 large bits of glazing, which is awesome, but then we've 1:12:50.495 --> 1:12:53.495 also got to compensate for the fact that, you know, 1:12:53.535 --> 1:12:55.495 we can get a certain amount of performance out of 1:12:55.535 --> 1:13:01.175 our glazing, but it's not anywhere near the performance from 1:13:01.375 --> 1:13:05.855 a wall that's well insulated. So yeah, part of it's a. 1:13:05.535 --> 1:13:08.575 Good solution just well, yeah, the windows are so expensive 1:13:08.615 --> 1:13:09.175 now as well. 1:13:10.535 --> 1:13:13.295 That's an interesting point too. Yeah, if you're putting in 1:13:13.375 --> 1:13:16.455 smaller windows, you'll drive down the cost. I mean that's 1:13:16.495 --> 1:13:21.015 a balancing, isn't it. You know, you we want warmth 1:13:21.095 --> 1:13:23.215 from the sun. But then now we're talking about lots 1:13:23.255 --> 1:13:26.815 of our new builds being overheated. I think a lot 1:13:26.855 --> 1:13:31.295 of that is poor design, lack of shading, those sorts 1:13:31.295 --> 1:13:35.015 of things. Certainly lack of any actual active ventilation inside 1:13:35.055 --> 1:13:38.615 houses that as we build increasingly airtight, we need to ventilate. 1:13:38.695 --> 1:13:43.695 We need to ventilate, right, So fascinating all Yeah, I 1:13:43.735 --> 1:13:48.055 know it opens a whole can of but it's great. Yes, alright, Hey, 1:13:48.055 --> 1:13:50.535 lovely to chat with you, take care, go by thing 1:13:50.855 --> 1:13:53.135 you and news talks be twenty minutes away from eight. 1:13:53.775 --> 1:13:55.455 Doing other house storting the garden. 1:13:55.535 --> 1:13:59.215 Asked Fete for a hand the resident builder with peta wolfcab. 1:13:59.335 --> 1:14:03.055 Call eight hundred eight news talks be your. 1:14:02.895 --> 1:14:05.255 News talks, he'd be, and the lines are open. Oh, 1:14:05.255 --> 1:14:07.455 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call. Robert, 1:14:07.495 --> 1:14:09.655 good morning to you, Hey. 1:14:09.495 --> 1:14:15.255 Good morning. Yeah, I've got the property. Whether I told 1:14:15.295 --> 1:14:17.935 the well years ago when. 1:14:17.775 --> 1:14:20.895 This Robert, you might have you radio on in the background, 1:14:20.895 --> 1:14:26.095 which will be a bit stracting off there you go. 1:14:27.855 --> 1:14:28.175 Mm hm. 1:14:28.775 --> 1:14:33.095 Anyway, I'm on the on the on the river side 1:14:33.135 --> 1:14:37.855 of the Foul River, and just as what I am, 1:14:37.935 --> 1:14:41.815 because the water is and all the some water is 1:14:42.695 --> 1:14:45.415 because I've got the two main sewer drains on and 1:14:46.215 --> 1:14:51.895 main where everything, and sometimes they get blocked up, but 1:14:52.175 --> 1:14:56.615 they're not blocked up. Only the drains. They're not the 1:14:56.775 --> 1:15:02.095 old clear pipe drains and they used to do drain. 1:15:02.375 --> 1:15:05.215 And I know that the old clay pipe drinks are 1:15:05.215 --> 1:15:09.655 all right, but it's the ground moves that sort of 1:15:09.735 --> 1:15:13.575 do move as well, and that's all blocked up under 1:15:13.615 --> 1:15:16.495 the water. It is all a rain water just as well. 1:15:16.495 --> 1:15:19.255 It's a I've got a concrete wall at the side 1:15:19.295 --> 1:15:22.215 and it's just running over the top down into the river. 1:15:23.015 --> 1:15:23.135 Right. 1:15:23.535 --> 1:15:24.735 Wrung the count I wrung. 1:15:24.775 --> 1:15:25.775 The Count's suffered. 1:15:26.615 --> 1:15:29.215 They said they'll get back to me and get back 1:15:29.255 --> 1:15:31.975 to me, but they're getting back to me. 1:15:32.615 --> 1:15:35.055 I think it's important to note that, you know, drainage 1:15:35.215 --> 1:15:39.895 on your own property is your responsibility, it's not counsel's responsibility. 1:15:41.215 --> 1:15:44.335 So you know, if it's catchment from your own property, 1:15:44.535 --> 1:15:49.255 as a property owner, we're responsible for its control and discharge. 1:15:49.535 --> 1:15:52.415 Well I know that, But the thing is this is 1:15:52.455 --> 1:15:59.735 from other properties government, from up across across the across 1:15:59.775 --> 1:16:05.375 the way. Yes, and to put all these new where 1:16:05.415 --> 1:16:09.015 this old lady lived across the road, across the folders 1:16:10.015 --> 1:16:17.335 and the bill is five plats there. So that's not 1:16:17.455 --> 1:16:19.255 what have been helping anything either. 1:16:21.015 --> 1:16:25.055 I mean, typically, you know, developers as part of the 1:16:25.095 --> 1:16:31.415 development have to you know, upgrade systems. Sometimes. I'm aware 1:16:31.455 --> 1:16:34.935 of a couple of cases where developer, if you're wanting 1:16:34.975 --> 1:16:37.655 to add let's say three townhouses where there was one 1:16:37.695 --> 1:16:41.415 old house and there's no connection to the storm water, 1:16:41.495 --> 1:16:43.495 they have to come out and down the road and 1:16:43.935 --> 1:16:47.175 into a council stormwater line and in some cases they 1:16:47.175 --> 1:16:50.215 have to pay to upgrade that as well. So you know, 1:16:50.415 --> 1:16:54.215 ideally when that development took place, the developer should have 1:16:55.055 --> 1:16:58.495 ensued or should have been made to ensure that the 1:16:58.615 --> 1:17:02.615 stormwater discharge from the property can be controlled. Now it's 1:17:02.655 --> 1:17:04.215 quite possible that I. 1:17:04.215 --> 1:17:09.895 Can't understand why the counselor to build these five new 1:17:10.015 --> 1:17:15.815 flats just way opposite more or less my property when 1:17:16.615 --> 1:17:19.015 it was a single Houseboy. 1:17:19.855 --> 1:17:21.895 Yeah, I mean, look, that's that's a much bigger is 1:17:22.015 --> 1:17:26.215 in terms of town planning and intensification and housing affordability 1:17:26.375 --> 1:17:29.695 and so on. And I mean, look, I think as 1:17:29.735 --> 1:17:33.655 a country, as a you know, individual cities, we're going 1:17:33.695 --> 1:17:38.575 to need to intensify, right. I don't like the idea 1:17:39.175 --> 1:17:42.255 just spreading out further and further into the countryside. We 1:17:42.295 --> 1:17:46.015 want more people, ideally living in good quality housing and 1:17:46.575 --> 1:17:51.815 well planned subdivisions and so on inside our existing urban boundaries. 1:17:52.575 --> 1:17:55.255 And yes, that's going to mean where there was one house, 1:17:55.295 --> 1:17:57.855 there is now going to be three, four or five houses. 1:17:58.815 --> 1:18:02.015 So that that's where planning legislation, if it's good, will 1:18:02.015 --> 1:18:05.015 help with that. Look in terms of solving the problem 1:18:05.055 --> 1:18:09.375 for you you know, if it's old terra cotta pipe 1:18:10.175 --> 1:18:13.815 type drainage that you've got, and that's quite common in 1:18:14.175 --> 1:18:17.135 hundreds of thousands of New Zealand houses, it just reaches 1:18:17.215 --> 1:18:19.695 the end of its life and probably the only solution 1:18:19.775 --> 1:18:22.335 is rip it out and replace it, or in some 1:18:22.415 --> 1:18:25.735 cases you can do sleeving just to ensure that there's 1:18:25.735 --> 1:18:29.815 no see pitch out of that. But and neighbors do 1:18:30.095 --> 1:18:34.735 have an obligation to control storm water. It's unfortunate that 1:18:34.855 --> 1:18:38.095 council aren't more helpful with that because they really should be. 1:18:39.255 --> 1:18:41.375 Thanks for you. Call Robert all the very best with that, Paul, 1:18:41.415 --> 1:18:42.135 Good morning to you. 1:18:43.215 --> 1:18:45.615 Yes, good morning, Peter, how are you very well? 1:18:45.615 --> 1:18:45.855 Thanks? 1:18:45.855 --> 1:18:46.295 What's up? 1:18:47.295 --> 1:18:51.415 Oh, it's an pretty simple one. I recently Well, first 1:18:51.415 --> 1:18:55.375 of all, I'm basically be paid a wheelchair bound and 1:18:55.415 --> 1:18:57.735 I got someone to put in a three three meter 1:18:58.295 --> 1:19:00.655 good old fashioned tin galvanized shed. 1:19:01.175 --> 1:19:01.495 Yes. 1:19:02.775 --> 1:19:05.575 Now, the roof, of course, is just two pitches, one 1:19:05.615 --> 1:19:11.095 on each side, and it's corrugated time on top of 1:19:11.135 --> 1:19:12.775 it is a camping right. 1:19:13.455 --> 1:19:13.935 Yes. 1:19:15.135 --> 1:19:19.415 Now, I'm in Northland and we get some fairly strong 1:19:19.455 --> 1:19:23.695 winds and the storms, and when that happens, the rain 1:19:23.815 --> 1:19:28.895 blows up yep, men corrigations and under the ridge because 1:19:28.935 --> 1:19:33.455 there is no flashing. Yes, how can we sort this out? 1:19:34.535 --> 1:19:37.335 So typical process for roofing when you come up to 1:19:37.375 --> 1:19:41.215 a ridge like that is you actually turn the trough 1:19:41.375 --> 1:19:43.975 of the sheet up before you put the flashing on, 1:19:45.335 --> 1:19:47.895 which you know, if it's corrugated, you use like a 1:19:47.935 --> 1:19:49.695 spanner or something like that, and you take the trough 1:19:49.735 --> 1:19:51.935 and you turn it up. What that does is provides 1:19:51.935 --> 1:19:55.415 a little dam so wind blow and rain hits that. 1:19:55.775 --> 1:20:01.375 And you know, in most instances mystand that, Yeah, so 1:20:01.415 --> 1:20:04.695 that that's typically what you do. So you take the 1:20:04.735 --> 1:20:07.135 ridge cap off, you turn up the troughs of all 1:20:07.175 --> 1:20:09.015 of the sheets. The other thing you can do is 1:20:09.055 --> 1:20:11.215 before you put the ridge cap back down on there, 1:20:11.615 --> 1:20:16.335 you can get like a foam profiled filler that you 1:20:16.375 --> 1:20:20.015 can put down. Yeah, just a foam. It'll come in 1:20:20.055 --> 1:20:23.095 the different whether it's corrugated or trapezoidal or whatever it is. 1:20:23.855 --> 1:20:25.215 You put that in. 1:20:26.455 --> 1:20:29.815 Yeah, but it's already profiled, right, so it's designed to 1:20:29.975 --> 1:20:32.855 match the profile of the roofing iron that you're using. 1:20:33.335 --> 1:20:36.815 Put that on just up from the bottom of the flashing, 1:20:36.815 --> 1:20:39.135 the lower edge of the flashing, and again that'll stop 1:20:39.175 --> 1:20:41.735 water being driven in by the wind. 1:20:42.975 --> 1:20:45.055 The bottom edge of the non flashing. 1:20:44.695 --> 1:20:46.975 Is what you mean of the top flashing. So if 1:20:47.015 --> 1:20:49.215 you've got a ridge flashing that spans both sides, you 1:20:49.295 --> 1:20:51.855 do a layer on both sides as well as turning 1:20:51.935 --> 1:20:53.415 up the trough of the sheet. 1:20:54.175 --> 1:20:57.455 No, I understand this is just a straight flat panel. 1:20:57.695 --> 1:21:02.615 Oh yeah, So sometimes with those ridge cappings they're not 1:21:02.735 --> 1:21:05.615 profiled as well, so they don't go down into the sheet. 1:21:05.775 --> 1:21:08.895 And again you've got quite a big gap there, you know. 1:21:08.975 --> 1:21:12.055 That's where again typically on a roof, your head flashing 1:21:12.135 --> 1:21:15.295 or your your ridge flashing will have soft edge on 1:21:15.335 --> 1:21:18.295 it that you can push down into the profile, or 1:21:18.415 --> 1:21:21.615 in some cases you cut the flashing to match the 1:21:21.655 --> 1:21:27.175 profile to stop exactly. Yeah, we don't use that anymore. 1:21:27.175 --> 1:21:30.935 It's a soft edge. Yeah, yeah, it should be available, Paul, 1:21:31.575 --> 1:21:34.055 good luck with all of that. Sounds like a relatively 1:21:34.055 --> 1:21:36.055 simple fact, but sounds like you might need someone to 1:21:36.575 --> 1:21:38.055 help you with that. Good luck with that one. It 1:21:38.175 --> 1:21:40.455 is coming up nine minutes away from eight. 1:21:40.695 --> 1:21:43.615 Whether you're peaty with ceiling fixing with feds or wondering 1:21:43.655 --> 1:21:45.695 how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter 1:21:45.815 --> 1:21:47.015 wolf Cap call on. 1:21:48.895 --> 1:21:50.975 The resident builder on you Dogs B. 1:21:52.255 --> 1:21:56.935 News Talks B Pete just listening to this is a 1:21:56.935 --> 1:22:01.055 good one, just after Paul's sorry Robert's conversation about drainage 1:22:01.055 --> 1:22:03.775 Peat just listening to the strainage question. When a council 1:22:03.775 --> 1:22:06.935 has given consent for a neighboring property to raise its land, 1:22:06.975 --> 1:22:10.015 which then causes the neighbors to flood, are they responsible 1:22:10.055 --> 1:22:10.215 for this? 1:22:11.375 --> 1:22:11.495 Look? 1:22:11.535 --> 1:22:14.455 Getting them to be responsible or take responsibility is probably 1:22:14.535 --> 1:22:17.455 quite difficult. But I would have thought that I might 1:22:17.495 --> 1:22:19.695 be a bit naive, or I might be overly optimistic, 1:22:19.695 --> 1:22:21.575 but I would have thought that if they got permission 1:22:21.695 --> 1:22:24.855 to raise the ground level, that they would also then 1:22:25.095 --> 1:22:29.535 have in place some design to cope with overflow. Right, 1:22:30.015 --> 1:22:34.015 So you know, whether that's catchment from the roof area, 1:22:34.055 --> 1:22:37.215 it's got to be directed into storm water. If it's 1:22:37.775 --> 1:22:42.655 permeable or impermeable surfaces, catchment from that needs to be 1:22:42.735 --> 1:22:47.575 directed to storm water. The design ideally shouldn't then direct 1:22:47.575 --> 1:22:52.055 stormwater or groundwater on even ground, just rainwater that lands 1:22:52.095 --> 1:22:56.415 on the ground to a neighboring property. It really shouldn't, 1:22:56.415 --> 1:22:59.415 but let's not saying it might not. Oh eight hundred 1:22:59.495 --> 1:23:01.495 eighty ten eighty the number, Maggie, Hello there. 1:23:02.415 --> 1:23:10.775 Good morning. I live in a seventies built home. The 1:23:10.775 --> 1:23:14.735 frontage has a balcony across the front, which would be 1:23:14.775 --> 1:23:21.295 about twenty eight meters. On their balcony is pieces of decking. 1:23:22.335 --> 1:23:25.175 The grooved decking. I'm not sure what you call it. 1:23:26.655 --> 1:23:29.775 I noticed that some of the joints in the decking 1:23:30.095 --> 1:23:36.175 are now like shrinking and then starting to come up, 1:23:37.095 --> 1:23:42.775 curl up like a stale sandwich, and the screws are 1:23:42.815 --> 1:23:49.575 no longer holding that dicking down. Have you come across 1:23:49.655 --> 1:23:50.815 any problems like this? 1:23:51.735 --> 1:23:55.495 So I presume it's decking that's a buttered together. So 1:23:55.535 --> 1:23:57.295 it's not like tongue and groove or anything. It's just 1:23:57.415 --> 1:23:58.175 regular decking. 1:23:59.135 --> 1:24:00.215 It's regular decking. 1:24:03.095 --> 1:24:06.015 We're going to run into the news at eight o'clock 1:24:06.575 --> 1:24:08.815 and I'm trying not to crash into it like I 1:24:08.855 --> 1:24:12.535 normally do, as if it's unexpected. So stay listening and 1:24:12.615 --> 1:24:15.975 I'll it's a pretty simple facts. I'll address that straight 1:24:16.015 --> 1:24:18.175 after New Sport and Weather top of the hour at 1:24:18.175 --> 1:24:19.655 eight o'clock here at News Talks c B. 1:24:20.615 --> 1:24:24.175 Squeaky door or Squeaky floor Get the right advice from 1:24:24.295 --> 1:24:28.535 Peter Wolfgare the resident builder on news TALKSB Your. 1:24:28.415 --> 1:24:30.415 New Stalks c B. And just before the news we 1:24:30.415 --> 1:24:32.695 were talking to Maggie about the decking and some of 1:24:32.735 --> 1:24:37.175 the joints lifting and the boards shrinking. Maggie, roughly, how 1:24:37.175 --> 1:24:38.295 old is the decking? 1:24:41.855 --> 1:24:47.415 Not sure, Pete. I've been in the house five years now, yep. 1:24:48.135 --> 1:24:51.975 But it is a seventies house and just looking at it, 1:24:51.975 --> 1:24:56.135 it looks like it may have had some some boards 1:24:56.175 --> 1:24:59.935 replaced at some time. But if we go back to 1:25:00.535 --> 1:25:02.935 original seventies. 1:25:03.935 --> 1:25:09.335 It's getting and that's kin kind of you know, things 1:25:09.335 --> 1:25:14.215 have a lifespan, right, and decking in some cases, you know, 1:25:14.255 --> 1:25:16.855 if it's like, for example, if it was a pine 1:25:16.895 --> 1:25:20.455 decking and it was I don't know, twenty five, twenty 1:25:20.535 --> 1:25:22.975 years old something like that, it's probably getting to the 1:25:23.055 --> 1:25:27.415 end of its life. So at a certain stage you 1:25:27.495 --> 1:25:29.535 might just need to sort of face the fact that 1:25:29.615 --> 1:25:32.975 it just needs replacing. However, if it's more a maintenance 1:25:33.055 --> 1:25:35.455 type thing, and if it's just some screws that are 1:25:35.455 --> 1:25:39.255 coming out, I would simply take those screws out, find 1:25:39.375 --> 1:25:43.775 a longer decking screw and have someone refix it using 1:25:43.815 --> 1:25:47.655 the existing holes with a longer screw that will get 1:25:47.695 --> 1:25:50.935 some bite into the jost below and try and fix 1:25:51.015 --> 1:25:52.815 them down. Some of the boards that have got a 1:25:52.815 --> 1:25:54.815 twist in it that you can't get out, maybe you 1:25:54.855 --> 1:25:57.615 just need to replace them, like for like. But at 1:25:57.615 --> 1:26:00.095 a certain stage, I do wonder whether you might be 1:26:00.135 --> 1:26:02.215 getting to that point where it just needs to be 1:26:02.255 --> 1:26:04.775 lifted and the decking replaced. 1:26:06.735 --> 1:26:08.415 Lived the whole deck, or adjust a. 1:26:09.895 --> 1:26:10.215 Shark. 1:26:10.655 --> 1:26:13.095 I mean, look, that's the thing. You can just replace 1:26:13.175 --> 1:26:15.735 the boards that are particularly twisted, but it will look 1:26:15.815 --> 1:26:18.575 like you know, it'll be a bit piecemeal and bit patchy. 1:26:20.335 --> 1:26:20.895 Yeah. 1:26:21.975 --> 1:26:25.135 Yeah, it's a coaler deck, I'm told, Okay, it's. 1:26:24.975 --> 1:26:28.455 A coiler deck. Look if it's I'm just trying to 1:26:28.495 --> 1:26:30.535 think of the last one that I replaced. You know, 1:26:30.575 --> 1:26:33.575 if you get fifteen twenty years, they're pretty close to 1:26:33.615 --> 1:26:35.775 the end of their life by the end. And that's 1:26:35.855 --> 1:26:39.655 no disrespect to the product. It's just they do you know, 1:26:39.735 --> 1:26:42.375 we're out, and when they do, maybe you need to 1:26:42.375 --> 1:26:44.735 replace them. But in the meantime, you could replace the 1:26:44.775 --> 1:26:48.095 boards that are particularly twisted and add some additional fixings 1:26:48.375 --> 1:26:50.695 and that'll at least stop it being a hazard. So 1:26:51.535 --> 1:26:53.295 good luck with that. I hope it works. Out it 1:26:53.375 --> 1:26:59.375 is nine minutes after eight. Does that be a couple 1:26:59.415 --> 1:27:02.295 of weeks ago? Someone rang and was talking about sort 1:27:02.335 --> 1:27:07.015 of faded aluminum jewinery. Interestingly enough, so in many cases 1:27:07.055 --> 1:27:09.775 you'll get faded aluminium jowinery. Maybe the garage door looks 1:27:09.775 --> 1:27:13.455 a bit dull. So aluminium powder coated surfaces can fade 1:27:13.495 --> 1:27:16.855 and discolor over time. 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Or do I wait 1:30:49.935 --> 1:30:54.575 until its silver's off from Nick? I think ideally you 1:30:54.735 --> 1:30:57.295 let it sort of settle down. And the other thing 1:30:57.335 --> 1:31:01.095 with quila is it bleeds right, So make sure that 1:31:01.135 --> 1:31:05.655 wherever you store it is not don't store it on 1:31:05.695 --> 1:31:07.935 the concreteway because I'll get a text in a week 1:31:08.095 --> 1:31:10.775 going I've got the stain on the concrete driveway, make 1:31:10.815 --> 1:31:13.575 sure it's on a on the grass or something like that. 1:31:13.695 --> 1:31:16.055 Let it bleed out onto there before doing the decking. 1:31:16.095 --> 1:31:18.655 If the decking is close to a pathway, make sure 1:31:18.655 --> 1:31:22.175 it doesn't bleed onto that as well. Do the quiler decking. 1:31:22.255 --> 1:31:24.295 I think kind of it's a bit hard at this 1:31:24.335 --> 1:31:26.735 time of year. You might even just leave it for 1:31:26.775 --> 1:31:32.495 the winter and let it sort of weather a little bit. 1:31:32.895 --> 1:31:36.615 It won't change color too much over the winter. Let 1:31:36.655 --> 1:31:38.855 it sort of get rid of all of that sap 1:31:38.895 --> 1:31:40.495 and that sort of thing, and then as soon as 1:31:40.495 --> 1:31:43.655 the weather comes right, I'd give it a really thorough clean, 1:31:43.775 --> 1:31:47.295 like with some raisine deckwash. Clean it thoroughly and then 1:31:47.375 --> 1:31:52.295 apply a coating there. It'll help protect it most definitely. 1:31:52.655 --> 1:31:54.735 If you've got a comment or a question, the lines 1:31:54.735 --> 1:31:57.055 are still open right through it at eight eight thirty 1:31:57.095 --> 1:31:58.855 this morning, when of course we jump into the garden 1:31:58.855 --> 1:32:02.015 with a red climb pass. So feel free to call 1:32:02.255 --> 1:32:05.575 right now on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Murray's 1:32:05.575 --> 1:32:07.415 got a text as well. In a recent storm, a 1:32:07.455 --> 1:32:09.695 section of our fence came down due to the post 1:32:09.775 --> 1:32:13.175 snapping off at ground level. They were concreted in to 1:32:13.295 --> 1:32:15.975 repair them. Would you dig out the old concrete creating 1:32:16.055 --> 1:32:18.855 huge holes to replace or put a new fence post 1:32:18.935 --> 1:32:20.855 beside her in the middle of the space between the 1:32:20.855 --> 1:32:25.335 old posts, Murray, I'll tell you when I finished doing 1:32:25.455 --> 1:32:28.375 exactly that. I don't think i'll get around to it 1:32:28.415 --> 1:32:31.135 this week, but hopefully next week I'm going to. Well, 1:32:31.415 --> 1:32:33.695 they haven't blown over, but it's leaning to such a 1:32:33.695 --> 1:32:35.615 degree that looks really shonky, So I've got to get 1:32:35.655 --> 1:32:37.895 in and dig those out. I'm going to dig them 1:32:37.935 --> 1:32:40.735 out and just put a new post in, because then 1:32:40.735 --> 1:32:44.975 I don't have to change the panel sizes. I'm thinking 1:32:44.975 --> 1:32:47.015 I'll be able to cut through the fixings, lift the 1:32:47.015 --> 1:32:50.335 panels out, take the post out, replace it, and then 1:32:50.375 --> 1:32:54.335 put the panels back in. So look, if you want to, 1:32:54.455 --> 1:32:58.055 you can certainly go and put a new post alongside. 1:32:58.055 --> 1:33:01.295 It might look a little bit odd, but yes, you 1:33:01.295 --> 1:33:02.735 can do it. Or you just have to dig a 1:33:02.775 --> 1:33:07.975 hole and inevitably up putting just a little bit more 1:33:08.535 --> 1:33:11.495 concrete around those holes. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1:33:11.535 --> 1:33:13.855 is the number to call just on the downpipe. And 1:33:13.895 --> 1:33:15.415 this is the time of year that we sort of 1:33:15.415 --> 1:33:17.535 look at storm water and drainage and that sort of thing. 1:33:18.175 --> 1:33:22.815 My neighbor's down my knee, neighbor's garage roof downpipe directs 1:33:22.855 --> 1:33:25.095 the water straight onto the ground next to our driveway. 1:33:25.135 --> 1:33:27.935 The water then runs down our drive and out under 1:33:27.975 --> 1:33:30.575 the house. I've politely raised this and his obligation to 1:33:30.655 --> 1:33:33.375 control his stormwater, but he said that there's nothing he 1:33:33.455 --> 1:33:37.655 can do. Clearly, it's his obligations. What are my options now? 1:33:39.215 --> 1:33:42.255 It is the neighbour's obligation, right, It's quite clear stormwater 1:33:42.375 --> 1:33:44.695 needs to be controlled and having it flooding onto the 1:33:44.735 --> 1:33:48.575 ground is not controlling it. And to be fair, it's 1:33:48.615 --> 1:33:51.095 a flat out lie when he says nothing he can do. 1:33:51.215 --> 1:33:54.855 What he can do is extend his existing storm water 1:33:55.095 --> 1:33:59.055 to collect the downpoort to collect the water from the 1:33:59.055 --> 1:34:01.575 downpipe coming from the garage. It shouldn't just go onto 1:34:01.615 --> 1:34:04.615 the ground. You may well have some luck if you 1:34:04.695 --> 1:34:07.575 go to council and we take a photograph of it 1:34:07.735 --> 1:34:10.935 or a little video of when it's raining, and counsel 1:34:11.095 --> 1:34:13.815 might come and visit and go, you know, at an 1:34:13.975 --> 1:34:16.975 enforcement notice or something like that, or at least inform 1:34:17.495 --> 1:34:21.095 the homeowner of their obligations to control their own stormwater. 1:34:22.255 --> 1:34:26.615 My understanding is that again, certainly in Auckland, they've actually 1:34:26.615 --> 1:34:31.335 had a team out literally walking the streets looking at 1:34:31.495 --> 1:34:34.535 you know, from the road frontage, looking at stormwater discharge. 1:34:34.575 --> 1:34:36.975 And if they see down pipes that are not connected 1:34:37.095 --> 1:34:40.375 or just dispose onto the ground, or stormwater that's not 1:34:40.415 --> 1:34:42.455 connected at all, that sort of thing, they'll they'll go 1:34:42.575 --> 1:34:44.895 and approach the homeowner and go, hey, look, are you 1:34:44.975 --> 1:34:48.735 aware of your obligations? I think that's great to be fair. 1:34:49.495 --> 1:34:55.335 Radio seventeen after eight Lauren, Hello there, Hi, how are you? Hey, Lauren, 1:34:55.375 --> 1:34:56.135 I'm very well. 1:34:55.935 --> 1:34:58.655 And you good. Good, Thank you? 1:34:59.615 --> 1:35:00.055 What's up? 1:35:00.655 --> 1:35:01.295 My question? 1:35:01.655 --> 1:35:03.815 My question to you is, I'm Jessica. 1:35:03.975 --> 1:35:07.175 I'm just in the process of buying a property. It's 1:35:07.375 --> 1:35:09.855 one unit out of a block of cour so it's 1:35:09.895 --> 1:35:11.095 on a cross leaf title. 1:35:12.415 --> 1:35:15.815 Now, back in nineteen eighty two, there was a shed, 1:35:16.295 --> 1:35:19.775 well essentially a sewing room that was actually built on 1:35:20.215 --> 1:35:23.455 the usable land for that unit. Yes, and it was 1:35:23.535 --> 1:35:26.935 permitted and consented and everything like that back then. 1:35:27.015 --> 1:35:29.575 But it wasn't actually added to the pro. 1:35:29.695 --> 1:35:31.935 The flats plan yep yees. 1:35:32.295 --> 1:35:35.215 So it's come back that when we did the valuation 1:35:35.375 --> 1:35:38.015 and the infection, that it's come back that now the 1:35:38.055 --> 1:35:39.175 title is defective. 1:35:39.415 --> 1:35:41.935 Yes, so it's been a few. 1:35:41.735 --> 1:35:44.095 Things that we've had to go through to obviously thort 1:35:44.135 --> 1:35:47.535 that out. But how hard is it going to be 1:35:47.775 --> 1:35:50.295 to like, what's the process to have to add that 1:35:50.415 --> 1:35:53.975 sewing room to the title at a later date? 1:35:55.855 --> 1:35:59.095 Generally it's you have to update to the best one 1:35:59.255 --> 1:36:03.015 of the flats plant right to show the location of that. 1:36:03.415 --> 1:36:06.015 The fact that it's got a building consent is probably 1:36:06.055 --> 1:36:08.695 quite useful because it shows that the building at least 1:36:08.735 --> 1:36:11.615 is compliant. But it's the updating of the So it's 1:36:11.655 --> 1:36:15.735 typically done by a surveyor who will come survey the property, 1:36:16.215 --> 1:36:20.295 add the physical dimensions to the flats plant, and then 1:36:20.495 --> 1:36:29.335 update the title thereafter. If it cost you twenty thousand dollars, 1:36:29.415 --> 1:36:35.775 I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, so, and I've had a 1:36:35.815 --> 1:36:39.095 couple of discussions with people recently around doing that sort 1:36:39.135 --> 1:36:41.455 of thing, and that was the figure, And I to 1:36:41.495 --> 1:36:43.215 be fair, I was a little bit staggered that it 1:36:43.215 --> 1:36:46.215 would cost that much maybe you can do it for less, 1:36:46.255 --> 1:36:50.575 but I'm throwing that figure out to go. It's seemingly 1:36:50.895 --> 1:36:54.575 not inexpensive thing to have done. And I guess you're 1:36:54.615 --> 1:36:56.975 in a position where, if you're thinking about buying the property, 1:36:57.215 --> 1:36:59.935 you'd want to make sure that that defective title was 1:37:00.095 --> 1:37:05.615 updated by the vendor prior to settlement because you don't 1:37:05.655 --> 1:37:09.055 want the cost of that, okay, unless you take the 1:37:09.175 --> 1:37:11.655 risk that you want to purchase, and then you'll do 1:37:11.775 --> 1:37:14.855 it and that the price is reflective on that. But 1:37:14.895 --> 1:37:17.695 I and to be fair, I used to have that 1:37:17.735 --> 1:37:20.375 attitude that, you know, take the risk, purchase the property 1:37:20.375 --> 1:37:23.695 and sort it out. And I think now I've shifted 1:37:23.695 --> 1:37:26.935 my thinking to go, actually, you know what, if there's 1:37:26.975 --> 1:37:29.775 a building that doesn't ever CECC or a defective title, 1:37:29.935 --> 1:37:35.135 make sure that the vendor sorts it out before settlement, right, 1:37:35.175 --> 1:37:35.855 Why would. 1:37:35.615 --> 1:37:36.295 You take the risk? 1:37:37.855 --> 1:37:38.215 Yeah? 1:37:38.335 --> 1:37:39.695 Yeah, definitely definitely. 1:37:39.735 --> 1:37:43.095 Like the other option was to it was to potentially 1:37:43.575 --> 1:37:48.335 take the sewing room down, but it's such a cool room. 1:37:49.015 --> 1:37:51.375 It's all out like it's a great work from home 1:37:51.415 --> 1:37:55.455 space because it's basically it looks like a glorified shed 1:37:55.495 --> 1:37:56.735 that's got a window and everything. 1:37:57.895 --> 1:38:03.055 Look, I can see the benefits of it. Absolutely yeah wow. 1:38:02.855 --> 1:38:04.815 But yeah, twenty grand for that much? 1:38:04.975 --> 1:38:08.655 Well look and I you know, maybe I'm I'm maybe 1:38:08.655 --> 1:38:11.615 that was for something way more complicated, but certainly as 1:38:11.695 --> 1:38:14.455 part of your due diligence, you'd want to go out 1:38:14.775 --> 1:38:17.135 and get some pricing. And typically it is it's a 1:38:17.175 --> 1:38:18.775 surveyor that does the work. 1:38:20.415 --> 1:38:20.655 Right. 1:38:20.695 --> 1:38:26.255 Okay, Okay, good luck, cool Laura, Then all the best 1:38:26.655 --> 1:38:30.335 your news talks be it's just gone twenty minutes after eight. 1:38:30.735 --> 1:38:34.575 Helping you get those DIY projects done right. 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To find out more, 1:39:43.335 --> 1:39:47.855 call Resonate on eight hundred three to seven three six 1:39:47.975 --> 1:39:51.815 zero News Talks be your news Talk said b will 1:39:51.855 --> 1:39:54.535 talk building until eight thirty and then we're into the 1:39:54.535 --> 1:39:59.015 garden with red climb pass. Brian. Hello, Hello there, kay, Brian. 1:40:01.135 --> 1:40:03.775 I was just listening to your program earlier and a 1:40:03.855 --> 1:40:08.375 lady rang up about a the house that has testus 1:40:08.375 --> 1:40:13.335 clouding on the outside possibly has yes, it possibly has. Well. 1:40:13.375 --> 1:40:15.815 I'm in the same sort of situation from the point 1:40:15.815 --> 1:40:18.695 of view that I bought a rental property just after 1:40:18.735 --> 1:40:23.055 the earthquakes in christ Church and basically rented it out. 1:40:23.135 --> 1:40:26.695 It's been rented out for years now. We're in the 1:40:26.735 --> 1:40:29.575 process of doing it up with and one thing that's 1:40:29.575 --> 1:40:32.535 been brought to our attention is that the outside clouding 1:40:33.535 --> 1:40:38.855 is possibly absbestos. Now my question is does that actually 1:40:38.975 --> 1:40:40.895 I mean, it doesn't affect anybody in the home or 1:40:40.935 --> 1:40:41.495 anything like that. 1:40:43.415 --> 1:40:43.815 Does that. 1:40:45.615 --> 1:40:48.295 Well, does it have to be replaced or no? Can 1:40:48.335 --> 1:40:48.975 you just no? 1:40:49.575 --> 1:40:52.175 Simple answer is no to the best of my knowledge. 1:40:52.215 --> 1:40:54.975 So you know, what we're concerned about is that when 1:40:55.335 --> 1:40:58.055 when people alter or adjust that, you know, if you 1:40:58.175 --> 1:41:00.455 drill it or cut it or grind it or send 1:41:00.495 --> 1:41:03.215 it or something like that, then it's a health risk, right, 1:41:03.255 --> 1:41:04.095 and a serious one. 1:41:04.975 --> 1:41:06.295 Yes, that's how I sort of understood. 1:41:06.775 --> 1:41:09.695 But if if it's if it's there and it's intact, 1:41:09.935 --> 1:41:12.055 and you know, you need to be a bit cautious. 1:41:12.055 --> 1:41:15.855 For example, when you're if you clean it and want 1:41:15.895 --> 1:41:18.295 to repaint it, then you don't want to be water 1:41:18.335 --> 1:41:20.855 blasting it. You can wash it to a chemical wash 1:41:20.895 --> 1:41:23.375 and apply another code of paint over it, those sorts 1:41:23.375 --> 1:41:27.655 of things, but there's no requirement to replace it. 1:41:28.895 --> 1:41:30.815 No, That's that's what That's where I wondered. 1:41:30.775 --> 1:41:36.095 Like, it's it's low risk, right, Yes, the riskers when 1:41:36.135 --> 1:41:39.815 you expec when you you break it, cut it, grind it, 1:41:40.095 --> 1:41:43.335 and you expose the fibers and the fibers become friable 1:41:43.415 --> 1:41:46.055 or airborne. That's when the risks, and that's what you 1:41:46.135 --> 1:41:46.975 have to manage. 1:41:48.295 --> 1:41:50.655 Yes, So if we threw a code of paint over it, 1:41:51.655 --> 1:41:55.295 absolutely fine, it's fine. Yeah, it's really all I need, 1:41:55.415 --> 1:41:56.975 you know, because we're going to the place of further 1:41:57.015 --> 1:41:57.535 paint job. 1:41:57.655 --> 1:41:57.855 Yeah. 1:41:57.895 --> 1:42:00.455 Look, wash it gently, like you know, use a chemical 1:42:00.535 --> 1:42:04.055 treatment on it, wash it, rinse it off, and then 1:42:04.295 --> 1:42:06.855 when it's dry, apply your primary, apply top coat and 1:42:06.855 --> 1:42:07.335 where you go. 1:42:08.855 --> 1:42:11.695 Gotcha all the best, Thank you very much. 1:42:11.895 --> 1:42:17.295 Take care see that. And Cheryl, hello there, how you 1:42:17.335 --> 1:42:18.215 do it very well? 1:42:18.295 --> 1:42:21.015 Thank you. Just to thank you to start off that. 1:42:21.095 --> 1:42:23.775 I actually then a few months ago, just as regards 1:42:23.815 --> 1:42:26.335 to my sense, just to put a covering over because 1:42:26.335 --> 1:42:29.455 someone complained about my dog's bagging. So I did the 1:42:29.575 --> 1:42:31.495 advocated thing and it looks great. 1:42:31.255 --> 1:42:32.775 So thank you for that pleasure. 1:42:33.335 --> 1:42:35.935 Look, I've got it so where I am a lot 1:42:35.935 --> 1:42:37.655 of people have been doing there. So we've got all 1:42:37.655 --> 1:42:40.295 these sheds and things. So I've got a so called 1:42:40.375 --> 1:42:43.975 shed or a separate shed on the back of my property, 1:42:44.055 --> 1:42:47.455 so it is separate. I have tanks, so I've got 1:42:47.455 --> 1:42:49.135 a water you know, so I've got a water tank 1:42:49.295 --> 1:42:52.095 the thing for my water. I'm looking at converting the 1:42:52.255 --> 1:42:55.335 shed into something for future you know, possible retment like 1:42:55.455 --> 1:43:00.575 you know and coming for retard. But because of weird 1:43:00.615 --> 1:43:03.495 it is as well as the tanks and the water goes, 1:43:03.575 --> 1:43:05.695 you can actually hear it. So I'm wondering if you 1:43:05.695 --> 1:43:08.095 can't do it stuff sound putting it will actually stop 1:43:08.175 --> 1:43:11.175 that because I hadn't actually slipped out out there. And 1:43:11.175 --> 1:43:13.815 when the water goes, if the toilet blushes from my home, 1:43:14.735 --> 1:43:15.655 you can actually hear it. 1:43:16.175 --> 1:43:21.015 So so it's probably the Is there a pump attached 1:43:21.015 --> 1:43:23.015 to the water tank and you can hear the pump? 1:43:23.815 --> 1:43:28.175 Okay, pump? Yeah, what's the distance between the house as well? 1:43:28.495 --> 1:43:29.455 Right, what's the distance? 1:43:30.095 --> 1:43:33.015 Actually the wall is that on the other side. So 1:43:33.095 --> 1:43:35.615 you've got the suits at the back, the pump's being 1:43:35.695 --> 1:43:38.495 put there, the sheds right next to where it is 1:43:38.655 --> 1:43:42.695 basically like a room next what's really. 1:43:42.615 --> 1:43:46.095 Yeah, I would probably look at isolating the sound from 1:43:46.135 --> 1:43:50.495 the pump, right, so you know, building a cover around 1:43:50.495 --> 1:43:53.295 the pump and maybe using something, you know, with an 1:43:53.335 --> 1:43:57.855 effective acoustic performance, like a something that's highly insulated or 1:43:57.895 --> 1:44:04.375 a freezer panel or something. Yeah, soundproof the pump. Don't 1:44:04.375 --> 1:44:07.655 worry about trying to soundproof the house. Soundproof what's making 1:44:07.695 --> 1:44:08.895 the noise and that's the pump. 1:44:09.135 --> 1:44:12.015 Yeah, well it's a shed I'm thinking about because if 1:44:12.015 --> 1:44:14.975 I convert it, you can hear that every time. Yeah, 1:44:15.175 --> 1:44:17.135 because of the punt and working through to the house 1:44:17.175 --> 1:44:19.055 as well when the water's juiced in the house. 1:44:19.135 --> 1:44:20.055 Yes, near the punt. 1:44:20.415 --> 1:44:20.535 Yea. 1:44:21.375 --> 1:44:25.815 I will try sound the pump. Yes, I've got to go. 1:44:25.975 --> 1:44:28.495 But the other thing about, you know, converting the shed 1:44:28.615 --> 1:44:31.535 is that if if it was built as a shed 1:44:31.575 --> 1:44:33.855 and it was never designed to be a habitable space, 1:44:35.655 --> 1:44:38.215 it will need a building consent for the upgrade. Right, 1:44:38.255 --> 1:44:42.135 So you have to prove compliance with a building code, 1:44:43.015 --> 1:44:46.095 especially if you're then going to essentially commercialize it and 1:44:46.175 --> 1:44:49.175 have it as a rental property. It needs to comply 1:44:49.255 --> 1:44:51.855 with the building code, and so any work that you 1:44:52.015 --> 1:44:56.135 do would require a building consent. Right he Oh, let's 1:44:56.215 --> 1:44:59.375 jump into the garden. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1:44:59.415 --> 1:45:02.535 If you've got a question, Ford, He'll be available straight 1:45:02.575 --> 1:45:03.855 after the break good. 1:45:03.975 --> 1:45:07.455 Met it God was, but it may be called Pete First. 1:45:07.495 --> 1:45:11.455 Peter wolf Camp, The Resident Builder. News Talk SeeDB. For 1:45:11.575 --> 1:45:14.695 more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen live 1:45:14.775 --> 1:45:17.615 to News Talk SETB on Sunday mornings from six, or 1:45:17.655 --> 1:45:19.615 follow the podcast on iHeartRadio