1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,655 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,855 --> 00:00:15,015 Speaker 1: from news Talks at b mead Adwice God once but 3 00:00:15,295 --> 00:00:18,535 Speaker 1: maybe called Pete first. Peter wolf Camp the Resident Builder 4 00:00:18,655 --> 00:00:19,495 Speaker 1: News Talk said, be. 5 00:00:23,335 --> 00:00:29,135 Speaker 2: The house sizor even when it's dark, even when the 6 00:00:29,215 --> 00:00:34,255 Speaker 2: grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when. 7 00:00:34,055 --> 00:00:38,295 Speaker 3: The dog is too old to bar, and when you're 8 00:00:38,295 --> 00:00:44,255 Speaker 3: sitting at the table trying not to start scissor home, 9 00:00:45,455 --> 00:01:00,735 Speaker 3: even when we are ben gone, even when you're thereon 10 00:01:02,175 --> 00:01:07,535 Speaker 3: a house sizzle home, even when those goes, even when 11 00:01:07,535 --> 00:01:10,695 Speaker 3: you got around from the ones you love your most. 12 00:01:12,135 --> 00:01:14,735 Speaker 4: Scream on broken paints, feeling from. 13 00:01:14,695 --> 00:01:19,575 Speaker 2: The world, locals vesper when they're going to leaving. 14 00:01:19,375 --> 00:02:00,895 Speaker 5: Neighbor house, even when Wilbur and love, even when you're herellone, well. 15 00:02:00,975 --> 00:02:03,615 Speaker 6: Very very good morning, welcome along to the show. On 16 00:02:03,735 --> 00:02:07,615 Speaker 6: the steep fourth of May, which seems to as the 17 00:02:07,695 --> 00:02:09,935 Speaker 6: fourth fourth of May, fourth of May, the fourth be 18 00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:13,375 Speaker 6: with you. Star Wars has kind of co opted that 19 00:02:14,175 --> 00:02:16,455 Speaker 6: to be fair and to be slightly somber for a moment. 20 00:02:16,495 --> 00:02:18,975 Speaker 6: It's it's a slightly more significant day for me in 21 00:02:18,975 --> 00:02:22,215 Speaker 6: the sense that today marks I think today's the official 22 00:02:22,295 --> 00:02:24,655 Speaker 6: day to remember the end of the Second World warf 23 00:02:24,735 --> 00:02:27,775 Speaker 6: the Dutch community for the Netherlands, and so they'll actually 24 00:02:27,775 --> 00:02:31,695 Speaker 6: be memorial this afternoon that I'll go to so and 25 00:02:31,815 --> 00:02:34,695 Speaker 6: it's a mate's birthday as well, so it's my birthday 26 00:02:34,695 --> 00:02:37,615 Speaker 6: in a couple of days. Anyway, Radio, let's get talking 27 00:02:37,655 --> 00:02:39,575 Speaker 6: about building, because that's what we're here to do. Oh 28 00:02:39,655 --> 00:02:42,615 Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 29 00:02:43,055 --> 00:02:45,215 Speaker 6: The text is up and running as well. That's nine 30 00:02:45,295 --> 00:02:48,975 Speaker 6: two nine two or ZBZB from your mobile phone and 31 00:02:49,055 --> 00:02:50,655 Speaker 6: if you'd like to send me an email, you're more 32 00:02:50,695 --> 00:02:54,455 Speaker 6: than welcome. It's Pete Atnewstalk ZB dot co dot nz. 33 00:02:55,015 --> 00:02:58,895 Speaker 6: So if you have got a project, that's maybe you're 34 00:02:58,935 --> 00:03:03,175 Speaker 6: about to start, or you have started, or you have started. 35 00:03:03,335 --> 00:03:05,935 Speaker 6: And look, let's be blunt. The wheels have come off 36 00:03:05,935 --> 00:03:09,575 Speaker 6: the troll and the thing's plunging into the abyss and 37 00:03:09,615 --> 00:03:12,935 Speaker 6: it's not going particularly well. Maybe I can help you 38 00:03:12,975 --> 00:03:15,615 Speaker 6: with that as well, or perhaps with all of the 39 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:18,975 Speaker 6: changes to legislation, you're wondering which parts of the rules 40 00:03:19,015 --> 00:03:21,535 Speaker 6: apply to me now. In fact, one of the things 41 00:03:22,735 --> 00:03:25,255 Speaker 6: that I've been trying to get my head around this 42 00:03:25,295 --> 00:03:29,815 Speaker 6: week has been around healthy home standards for heating. And 43 00:03:29,855 --> 00:03:33,015 Speaker 6: then once you read through the legislation, there's some information 44 00:03:33,055 --> 00:03:35,815 Speaker 6: in there that says if your heating requirement is more 45 00:03:35,855 --> 00:03:39,055 Speaker 6: than two point four killer watts, which is not a 46 00:03:39,095 --> 00:03:44,375 Speaker 6: lot to be fair, then basically the only acceptable form 47 00:03:44,415 --> 00:03:48,255 Speaker 6: of heating becomes a heat pump. And so I was 48 00:03:48,295 --> 00:03:51,375 Speaker 6: curious as to why that was the case. Why you 49 00:03:51,375 --> 00:03:54,375 Speaker 6: couldn't use let's say a three killer what heater in 50 00:03:54,415 --> 00:03:58,215 Speaker 6: a relatively small space in order to achieve the heating requirement. 51 00:03:58,575 --> 00:04:02,055 Speaker 6: Why that suddenly was non compliant. So, as part of 52 00:04:02,095 --> 00:04:05,935 Speaker 6: my sort of investigation onto this, ended up talking to 53 00:04:05,975 --> 00:04:09,535 Speaker 6: some peace Pole at ECA, which is the energy efficiency people, 54 00:04:10,215 --> 00:04:12,135 Speaker 6: to a guy who's actually been on the show a 55 00:04:12,175 --> 00:04:14,215 Speaker 6: couple of oh gee, it might have been a year 56 00:04:14,255 --> 00:04:17,935 Speaker 6: ago now who does all of the energy calculations and 57 00:04:18,015 --> 00:04:20,615 Speaker 6: so on. Had a great chat with him. Actually we're 58 00:04:20,655 --> 00:04:24,095 Speaker 6: catching up this week at the Green Building Council Housing 59 00:04:24,135 --> 00:04:27,495 Speaker 6: summit which is on Wednesday, which I'm really looking forward 60 00:04:27,455 --> 00:04:32,735 Speaker 6: to attending. And then and drilled down into why it 61 00:04:32,895 --> 00:04:36,655 Speaker 6: is that that's the requirement, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So there's 62 00:04:36,655 --> 00:04:39,895 Speaker 6: some interesting stuff around. How I suppose what was interesting 63 00:04:39,895 --> 00:04:42,295 Speaker 6: about that is, we've got a piece of legislation which 64 00:04:42,375 --> 00:04:44,855 Speaker 6: ends up being a rule that we all need to 65 00:04:44,895 --> 00:04:48,335 Speaker 6: comply with. But sometimes it's quite interesting to investigate why 66 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:55,495 Speaker 6: that rule is what it is. So that was kind 67 00:04:55,535 --> 00:04:57,295 Speaker 6: of an interesting thing. It was a nice way to 68 00:04:57,375 --> 00:05:05,015 Speaker 6: distract me from the mind bendingly boring task of standing 69 00:05:06,375 --> 00:05:10,295 Speaker 6: about fifty odd ballisters, each one of it's a you know, 70 00:05:10,455 --> 00:05:13,255 Speaker 6: it's an old villa that I'm working on, and I 71 00:05:13,295 --> 00:05:15,935 Speaker 6: had to pull all the handrail off because they'd started 72 00:05:15,975 --> 00:05:17,815 Speaker 6: to rot and they look pretty shonky, and the top 73 00:05:17,895 --> 00:05:20,095 Speaker 6: rail had rotted and part of the bottom rail had rotted. 74 00:05:20,415 --> 00:05:23,935 Speaker 6: So I ended up dissembling the entire thing, knocking off 75 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:28,215 Speaker 6: the top, bottom, top and bottom rails, taking the ballisters, 76 00:05:28,575 --> 00:05:32,615 Speaker 6: which were not terribly old but hadn't lasted particularly well, 77 00:05:33,415 --> 00:05:35,535 Speaker 6: and then sending them. And then as I was sort 78 00:05:35,535 --> 00:05:38,095 Speaker 6: of allowing my mind to wander, when I got to 79 00:05:38,135 --> 00:05:41,175 Speaker 6: like ballister number thirty six or something like that out 80 00:05:41,215 --> 00:05:45,055 Speaker 6: of about fifty, trying to count the number of edges 81 00:05:45,095 --> 00:05:47,975 Speaker 6: there are on a turned ballister that you've kind of 82 00:05:48,015 --> 00:05:49,895 Speaker 6: got that square bit at the bottom and then it 83 00:05:50,015 --> 00:05:52,055 Speaker 6: rounds over and then it goes to a little flat 84 00:05:52,055 --> 00:05:53,335 Speaker 6: and then it goes to a divot, and then it 85 00:05:53,375 --> 00:05:55,575 Speaker 6: goes to another flat, and then it goes to another round, 86 00:05:55,895 --> 00:05:57,655 Speaker 6: and then it scollops out, and then it's got that 87 00:05:57,695 --> 00:06:00,735 Speaker 6: sort of belly bit and then it goes to it. 88 00:06:00,735 --> 00:06:02,935 Speaker 6: It's a lot of work old houses. I know why 89 00:06:02,935 --> 00:06:04,975 Speaker 6: we don't build like we did back one hundred and 90 00:06:04,975 --> 00:06:08,055 Speaker 6: something years ago when this house was originally built. Righty Oh, 91 00:06:08,095 --> 00:06:10,015 Speaker 6: if you've got a project and you want to talk 92 00:06:10,015 --> 00:06:12,575 Speaker 6: about it, or some legislation that you want to talk about, 93 00:06:12,695 --> 00:06:15,855 Speaker 6: or new products and ideas that you'd like to talk about, 94 00:06:16,095 --> 00:06:18,375 Speaker 6: the lines are open and we can talk all things 95 00:06:18,375 --> 00:06:22,735 Speaker 6: building and construction. We will do that right through to 96 00:06:22,815 --> 00:06:26,015 Speaker 6: about eight thirty this morning. The Root Climb past as always, 97 00:06:26,055 --> 00:06:29,415 Speaker 6: will join us in the garden as we talk about 98 00:06:29,415 --> 00:06:31,935 Speaker 6: all things gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as 99 00:06:31,975 --> 00:06:34,775 Speaker 6: well from around eight thirty this morning. But now is 100 00:06:35,015 --> 00:06:38,375 Speaker 6: your opporgenity to talk all things building and construction. Oh, 101 00:06:38,455 --> 00:06:41,255 Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 102 00:06:41,535 --> 00:06:44,375 Speaker 6: Plenty to talk about lots and still lots of legislation. 103 00:06:44,495 --> 00:06:48,855 Speaker 6: Big news last week about self certification. I did a 104 00:06:48,855 --> 00:06:51,015 Speaker 6: bit of an interview during the course of the week 105 00:06:52,575 --> 00:06:55,295 Speaker 6: talking about what is likely to happen in terms of 106 00:06:55,335 --> 00:06:58,815 Speaker 6: self certification. If you've missed this in the news, it 107 00:06:58,855 --> 00:07:03,495 Speaker 6: was an announcement by the Construction and Building or Building 108 00:07:03,495 --> 00:07:07,135 Speaker 6: and Construction Minister Chris Penk during the week, an idea 109 00:07:07,175 --> 00:07:09,255 Speaker 6: that they've obviously been working on for a little while 110 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:16,215 Speaker 6: which will allow essentially selected or nominated building companies to 111 00:07:16,415 --> 00:07:19,375 Speaker 6: sign off their own work. This is in terms of 112 00:07:19,775 --> 00:07:23,855 Speaker 6: you know, inspections that are typically done by council building 113 00:07:23,895 --> 00:07:27,935 Speaker 6: inspectors pre line inspections to ensure that the installation that 114 00:07:28,135 --> 00:07:30,895 Speaker 6: is there, or that the timber is dry enough for lining, 115 00:07:31,415 --> 00:07:34,295 Speaker 6: or that the bracing has been installed. It may not 116 00:07:34,415 --> 00:07:37,655 Speaker 6: be all inspections, there's a bit of a hierarchy to them, 117 00:07:37,695 --> 00:07:41,295 Speaker 6: I think, and it certainly won't be all builders, but 118 00:07:41,655 --> 00:07:44,415 Speaker 6: there will be a provision for some builders who can 119 00:07:44,575 --> 00:07:48,535 Speaker 6: prove that they've got the quality assurance systems in place, 120 00:07:48,975 --> 00:07:54,775 Speaker 6: who have I guess sufficient size to cope with the 121 00:07:54,935 --> 00:08:00,455 Speaker 6: problem of work failing in the future, and insurances that 122 00:08:00,495 --> 00:08:03,935 Speaker 6: will carry on long enough to ensure that consumers are protected. 123 00:08:03,975 --> 00:08:06,575 Speaker 6: So we can talk about that as well. And if 124 00:08:06,615 --> 00:08:11,455 Speaker 6: you're in the industry, I've seen incredibly diverse opinions on this, 125 00:08:11,575 --> 00:08:14,095 Speaker 6: in the sense that there are some who are embracing it. 126 00:08:14,175 --> 00:08:16,095 Speaker 6: I talked to one guy during the course of the 127 00:08:16,095 --> 00:08:20,895 Speaker 6: week whose firm is probably going to be eligible for that, 128 00:08:22,215 --> 00:08:25,615 Speaker 6: and saying, hey, look, that's great. You know we've we've 129 00:08:25,615 --> 00:08:28,015 Speaker 6: got the systems in place. We feel confident that we 130 00:08:28,015 --> 00:08:32,055 Speaker 6: can maintain standards without necessarily having council come in and 131 00:08:32,055 --> 00:08:35,135 Speaker 6: look over our shoulder. And then I've seen posts and 132 00:08:35,495 --> 00:08:38,375 Speaker 6: comments online from people saying this is just going to 133 00:08:38,375 --> 00:08:41,095 Speaker 6: be disastrous. So if you'd like to throw in your opinion, 134 00:08:41,335 --> 00:08:43,575 Speaker 6: happy to hear at Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 135 00:08:43,655 --> 00:08:46,375 Speaker 6: is the number to call, thirteen after six on this 136 00:08:46,575 --> 00:08:50,375 Speaker 6: the fourth of May, Helca. Good morning, Ah, hi. 137 00:08:50,535 --> 00:08:57,095 Speaker 7: Hey, good good. What's this recent storm that's just have fun. Yes, 138 00:08:57,815 --> 00:09:01,415 Speaker 7: I've spoken to some people with wooden houses here in Avancos, 139 00:09:01,775 --> 00:09:05,295 Speaker 7: came in from the west, you know, the storm, and 140 00:09:05,335 --> 00:09:07,735 Speaker 7: they said houses were shaking. 141 00:09:08,375 --> 00:09:11,415 Speaker 8: Yes, So would that affect. 142 00:09:11,015 --> 00:09:12,455 Speaker 7: That our foundations are in. 143 00:09:12,415 --> 00:09:17,895 Speaker 6: The same No, I mean that not this most recent storm, 144 00:09:17,935 --> 00:09:21,455 Speaker 6: but the one that we had over Easter when there 145 00:09:21,495 --> 00:09:23,695 Speaker 6: was a lot of thunder and so on. I mean, 146 00:09:23,735 --> 00:09:24,095 Speaker 6: I'm in. 147 00:09:24,055 --> 00:09:27,895 Speaker 7: An old the one that we're in a hit the skytower. 148 00:09:28,335 --> 00:09:28,935 Speaker 8: Yeah, that one. 149 00:09:29,935 --> 00:09:32,295 Speaker 6: I mean, look, we had some pretty heavy weather this week, 150 00:09:33,295 --> 00:09:35,855 Speaker 6: you know, obviously with some flooding further down the country 151 00:09:35,975 --> 00:09:40,855 Speaker 6: and so on. But yeah, I mean, look, I was 152 00:09:40,935 --> 00:09:42,815 Speaker 6: woken up in the middle of the night by the 153 00:09:42,855 --> 00:09:46,895 Speaker 6: thunderstorms as well, and the house shook, right. So, you know, 154 00:09:47,095 --> 00:09:51,895 Speaker 6: houses are actually designed to move to some degree. Old 155 00:09:51,935 --> 00:09:55,815 Speaker 6: timber houses certainly are, and so the fact that it 156 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:58,855 Speaker 6: moves a little bit probably doesn't impact on the foundations. 157 00:09:58,975 --> 00:10:02,175 Speaker 6: I think what we tend to see with older houses 158 00:10:02,295 --> 00:10:05,295 Speaker 6: is as we shift from like we've had a pretty 159 00:10:05,375 --> 00:10:09,335 Speaker 6: dry summer to now being kind of saturated. And I 160 00:10:09,335 --> 00:10:11,775 Speaker 6: could feel it in my own house where it just 161 00:10:11,895 --> 00:10:15,655 Speaker 6: felt like the house had absorbed all of this moisture 162 00:10:16,135 --> 00:10:19,255 Speaker 6: that suddenly it was kind of and this is what 163 00:10:19,815 --> 00:10:22,975 Speaker 6: older houses do, and this is where I think sometimes, 164 00:10:24,575 --> 00:10:27,215 Speaker 6: you know, there's a sense that we're doing a whole 165 00:10:27,215 --> 00:10:30,615 Speaker 6: lot of things now with buildings that we didn't do 166 00:10:30,695 --> 00:10:33,615 Speaker 6: in the past, and even as simple as building paper 167 00:10:33,655 --> 00:10:36,535 Speaker 6: on the outside of the timber framing or ceiling around 168 00:10:36,535 --> 00:10:39,335 Speaker 6: the windows and all of that is to control how 169 00:10:39,415 --> 00:10:41,495 Speaker 6: moisture migrates through walls. 170 00:10:41,535 --> 00:10:42,495 Speaker 4: Because it does right. 171 00:10:43,815 --> 00:10:47,895 Speaker 6: And so you know, if you've got a relatively modern 172 00:10:47,895 --> 00:10:51,135 Speaker 6: house that's got a really good type of building wrap 173 00:10:51,215 --> 00:10:53,335 Speaker 6: or a rigid air barrier around the outside, and it's 174 00:10:53,375 --> 00:10:57,015 Speaker 6: sealed around the windows, and you've got better performing joinery 175 00:10:57,015 --> 00:11:00,535 Speaker 6: that doesn't allow air to go in and out around 176 00:11:00,575 --> 00:11:03,135 Speaker 6: the gaps and cracks in the joinery, then you can 177 00:11:03,175 --> 00:11:05,615 Speaker 6: sort of protect yourself from that. But an older house, 178 00:11:05,775 --> 00:11:08,215 Speaker 6: possibly like what you live in, certainly what I live in. 179 00:11:09,855 --> 00:11:11,535 Speaker 7: I live in the monastery. 180 00:11:11,655 --> 00:11:14,415 Speaker 6: Ah okay, all right, See, you know, it would be 181 00:11:14,455 --> 00:11:20,015 Speaker 6: really interesting to measure the indoor quality, the air quality 182 00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:25,575 Speaker 6: and or the indoor environment after a period of sustained 183 00:11:25,575 --> 00:11:27,695 Speaker 6: hot weather like we've had over the summer in Auckland 184 00:11:28,055 --> 00:11:31,975 Speaker 6: through to now where it's kind of it's sort of 185 00:11:32,015 --> 00:11:34,375 Speaker 6: like moderated in my house. But I remember when we 186 00:11:34,415 --> 00:11:37,055 Speaker 6: went from we haven't had much rain to we've had 187 00:11:37,055 --> 00:11:39,535 Speaker 6: a lot of rain, the house just felt different. And 188 00:11:39,575 --> 00:11:44,295 Speaker 6: that's just the house sucking up moisture, which is arguably 189 00:11:44,415 --> 00:11:45,495 Speaker 6: not a great thing, to be. 190 00:11:45,495 --> 00:11:50,415 Speaker 7: Fair, No one other thing I did a silly thing. 191 00:11:50,695 --> 00:11:54,775 Speaker 7: I opened my curtains, a lightning came right into my 192 00:11:54,895 --> 00:11:57,895 Speaker 7: bed dreams, so I had to shut up. That happened, 193 00:11:57,935 --> 00:12:01,575 Speaker 7: and I was in this storm and there had no 194 00:12:01,655 --> 00:12:04,215 Speaker 7: curtains in the garage and the lightning came right into 195 00:12:04,255 --> 00:12:08,855 Speaker 7: the room. But so I had to shut the curtains. 196 00:12:09,575 --> 00:12:11,615 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not sure that the curtains would stop 197 00:12:11,615 --> 00:12:13,975 Speaker 6: the lightning. But there was an impressive photograph I think, 198 00:12:14,615 --> 00:12:16,575 Speaker 6: during the week of a house out in Birkenhead that 199 00:12:17,175 --> 00:12:20,775 Speaker 6: got struck by lightning as well. So yeah, this this 200 00:12:20,855 --> 00:12:23,535 Speaker 6: storm and the last one, I think. What what I 201 00:12:23,575 --> 00:12:26,935 Speaker 6: find really interesting is that this is when you know, 202 00:12:27,055 --> 00:12:30,295 Speaker 6: we we sort of this is the test for our houses, right, 203 00:12:30,735 --> 00:12:33,775 Speaker 6: you know, this is the sort of environment where even 204 00:12:33,815 --> 00:12:37,135 Speaker 6: in terms of roofs lifting or in terms of how 205 00:12:37,215 --> 00:12:42,015 Speaker 6: well wrapped the houses are, it's it's this sort of 206 00:12:42,775 --> 00:12:46,455 Speaker 6: weather that we that we should actually not just prepare for, 207 00:12:46,535 --> 00:12:48,895 Speaker 6: but this is what our houses are designed to resist. 208 00:12:50,375 --> 00:12:54,455 Speaker 6: And I've seen like window testing, for example, where there's 209 00:12:54,455 --> 00:12:59,055 Speaker 6: a way there's a specific formula for testing the weather 210 00:12:59,135 --> 00:13:01,735 Speaker 6: tightness of windows, which is a certain amount of water 211 00:13:02,255 --> 00:13:04,855 Speaker 6: for a certain period of time at a certain pressure, 212 00:13:05,775 --> 00:13:09,335 Speaker 6: and so manufacturers have to test their joinery to that level, 213 00:13:09,335 --> 00:13:12,695 Speaker 6: and you often go, oh, you hardly have arrains like that. 214 00:13:12,815 --> 00:13:16,695 Speaker 6: But when it does, that's when we want to that's 215 00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:20,175 Speaker 6: when we want our houses to perform. So it's interesting, 216 00:13:21,055 --> 00:13:25,175 Speaker 6: I think, unless it's an incredibly severe storm, the fact 217 00:13:25,215 --> 00:13:27,615 Speaker 6: that your house moved a little bit in the weather, 218 00:13:27,655 --> 00:13:31,935 Speaker 6: I think is okay to be fair saying that. Actually 219 00:13:31,935 --> 00:13:36,375 Speaker 6: this week I'm really looking forward to that. This I'm 220 00:13:36,375 --> 00:13:38,415 Speaker 6: going down to Wellington for the Home and Garden Show 221 00:13:38,695 --> 00:13:42,495 Speaker 6: which starts this Friday in Wellington, so Friday, Saturday Sunday 222 00:13:42,815 --> 00:13:47,215 Speaker 6: at the Stadium there and I'll be down there for 223 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:50,815 Speaker 6: most of Saturday, presenting on Saturday during the day. But 224 00:13:50,895 --> 00:13:55,615 Speaker 6: I'm heading down on Friday and I've got an invitation 225 00:13:55,775 --> 00:13:59,615 Speaker 6: to go to BRANDS, which is the Building Research Association 226 00:13:59,735 --> 00:14:02,975 Speaker 6: of New Zealand. So Brands are sort of a body 227 00:14:03,015 --> 00:14:08,375 Speaker 6: that tests and determines the compliance the code for any 228 00:14:08,455 --> 00:14:13,055 Speaker 6: number of products, including they've got a massive laboratory effectively 229 00:14:13,295 --> 00:14:15,295 Speaker 6: where they can do fire testing, where they can do 230 00:14:15,335 --> 00:14:18,695 Speaker 6: earthquake testing and so on. So you know, for all 231 00:14:18,735 --> 00:14:21,535 Speaker 6: of us who have put in, you know, fixings for 232 00:14:21,775 --> 00:14:25,095 Speaker 6: bracing elements for example, and we wonder what sort of 233 00:14:25,335 --> 00:14:29,495 Speaker 6: pressure that wall could resist before it fails. Well, that's 234 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:31,255 Speaker 6: the type of testing that they do there. So I'm 235 00:14:31,295 --> 00:14:34,135 Speaker 6: heading down to Brands on Friday morning for a bit 236 00:14:34,135 --> 00:14:36,095 Speaker 6: of a walk around the factory or walk around the 237 00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:38,375 Speaker 6: laboratory and a catch up with some of the people there, 238 00:14:38,375 --> 00:14:41,455 Speaker 6: which I'm really really looking forward to because again, you know, 239 00:14:41,495 --> 00:14:44,055 Speaker 6: you read through literature or you go and you get 240 00:14:44,055 --> 00:14:46,215 Speaker 6: a brand's guide or a download and you go, well, 241 00:14:46,255 --> 00:14:49,135 Speaker 6: how did they reach that conclusion? I'll find out on Friday, 242 00:14:49,175 --> 00:14:52,415 Speaker 6: So looking forward to that, ahead of the Home and 243 00:14:52,455 --> 00:14:56,015 Speaker 6: Garden Show which will be on in Wellington on Friday 244 00:14:56,015 --> 00:14:58,255 Speaker 6: Saturday Sunday, So looking forward to that as well. Oh 245 00:14:58,295 --> 00:15:00,375 Speaker 6: eight one hundred and eighty ten ages before the break 246 00:15:00,975 --> 00:15:06,095 Speaker 6: this with regard to the self certification, Hey Pete, I've 247 00:15:06,095 --> 00:15:09,015 Speaker 6: been building nearly twenty years. Re the self certification I 248 00:15:09,055 --> 00:15:13,455 Speaker 6: was discussing was a BCEA so Building Consents Authority team 249 00:15:13,535 --> 00:15:16,535 Speaker 6: leader who shares my apprehension. Twenty twenty one, we bought 250 00:15:16,575 --> 00:15:20,495 Speaker 6: a transportable house from Manawatu's largest home builder. Piles were 251 00:15:20,535 --> 00:15:24,615 Speaker 6: poured in a failed engineered inspection. The floor had nineteen 252 00:15:24,655 --> 00:15:30,735 Speaker 6: milimeter round, had floor had ninety milimeters round, Not sure 253 00:15:30,735 --> 00:15:36,615 Speaker 6: what that means. Linear seilent stops were missing. The valves 254 00:15:36,735 --> 00:15:40,695 Speaker 6: or screws were rusting. The kitchen wall cracked several times. 255 00:15:40,695 --> 00:15:43,535 Speaker 6: Then they realized that the wall framing under a load 256 00:15:43,575 --> 00:15:48,375 Speaker 6: bearing beam was only nailed together. All real examples are documented, 257 00:15:48,455 --> 00:15:53,375 Speaker 6: and all real examples documented and resolved. Self certification will 258 00:15:53,655 --> 00:15:57,815 Speaker 6: likely create many issues for customers. In my opinion, BCA 259 00:15:57,855 --> 00:16:03,935 Speaker 6: inspections are needed to avoid preventable issues being identified. Yeah, look, 260 00:16:04,455 --> 00:16:07,055 Speaker 6: I'm not going to argue with you. That's your experience, 261 00:16:07,135 --> 00:16:11,055 Speaker 6: and I guess what we hoped is that those that 262 00:16:11,215 --> 00:16:15,215 Speaker 6: will be eligible for self certification will have systems in 263 00:16:15,255 --> 00:16:19,615 Speaker 6: place to ensure that what sound like fairly straightforward building 264 00:16:19,655 --> 00:16:23,055 Speaker 6: issues are one of the mistakes aren't made, and if 265 00:16:23,055 --> 00:16:26,135 Speaker 6: they are made, they're resolved. Take more of your text 266 00:16:26,135 --> 00:16:28,335 Speaker 6: on that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that 267 00:16:28,415 --> 00:16:31,255 Speaker 6: number to call? Twenty one minutes after six back after 268 00:16:31,295 --> 00:16:32,335 Speaker 6: the break with Brian. 269 00:16:32,855 --> 00:16:35,415 Speaker 1: Viewing of the house sorting the garden, asked Pete for 270 00:16:35,455 --> 00:16:38,815 Speaker 1: a hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call oh 271 00:16:38,895 --> 00:16:41,295 Speaker 1: eight eighty ten eighty news, dogs'd be. 272 00:16:41,935 --> 00:16:45,655 Speaker 6: Here's another story about that New Zealand owned hearing company Resonate. 273 00:16:45,775 --> 00:16:48,695 Speaker 6: It's aimed particularly at you. 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So 293 00:17:57,895 --> 00:18:02,175 Speaker 6: we will talk all things building construction and some products 294 00:18:02,215 --> 00:18:04,975 Speaker 6: and new ideas as well. Brian, A very good morning 295 00:18:05,015 --> 00:18:06,295 Speaker 6: to you. 296 00:18:06,495 --> 00:18:09,255 Speaker 9: Good morning for you know. I have an old I 297 00:18:09,295 --> 00:18:11,175 Speaker 9: have an old problem with Taylor fair Show. 298 00:18:11,855 --> 00:18:13,495 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yep. 299 00:18:14,095 --> 00:18:17,575 Speaker 9: And I've lived in the past and you recommended how 300 00:18:17,615 --> 00:18:20,175 Speaker 9: did fix it? Get it fixed by other people? Yes, 301 00:18:20,215 --> 00:18:22,655 Speaker 9: so I just did some health here. It's just coming in. 302 00:18:23,415 --> 00:18:25,415 Speaker 9: It goes round the whole house, but it's just coming 303 00:18:25,415 --> 00:18:28,575 Speaker 9: in where that we said six for six on it. 304 00:18:28,855 --> 00:18:34,215 Speaker 10: Yes, cam inreck my whole kitchen and everything. So I 305 00:18:34,255 --> 00:18:37,095 Speaker 10: mean that I spoked to Taylor and they said they 306 00:18:37,095 --> 00:18:39,535 Speaker 10: can put extra dumb papes and X all the flaws 307 00:18:39,535 --> 00:18:42,055 Speaker 10: in or should I just get the whole thing replaced. 308 00:18:44,655 --> 00:18:50,015 Speaker 6: I mean, look, adding some additional downpipes will help reduce 309 00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:52,255 Speaker 6: you know, because I think what happens well. One of 310 00:18:52,255 --> 00:18:54,375 Speaker 6: the issues with them is that I don't know that 311 00:18:54,415 --> 00:18:58,535 Speaker 6: the amount of water that that system carries is particularly great, right, 312 00:18:58,935 --> 00:19:02,255 Speaker 6: and so if we're having downpalls now of twenty thirty 313 00:19:02,415 --> 00:19:06,495 Speaker 6: millimeters per hour, it's a it's a staggering amount out 314 00:19:06,535 --> 00:19:11,335 Speaker 6: of water that your roof will collect, right, So I 315 00:19:11,375 --> 00:19:14,815 Speaker 6: did the calculations. The other day we installed a new 316 00:19:14,935 --> 00:19:17,335 Speaker 6: Bailey water tank onto a site and it was a 317 00:19:17,335 --> 00:19:21,375 Speaker 6: twenty thousand liter tank and twenty five thousand le tank 318 00:19:21,415 --> 00:19:23,295 Speaker 6: I think it was. And it was connected to a 319 00:19:23,295 --> 00:19:27,095 Speaker 6: workshop with a two hundred square meter roof. So one 320 00:19:27,215 --> 00:19:31,815 Speaker 6: millimeter of rain would create two hundred liters of water. Now, 321 00:19:31,855 --> 00:19:35,015 Speaker 6: if we're getting you know, ten times that amount in 322 00:19:35,095 --> 00:19:39,735 Speaker 6: an hour and for several hours in a row, it's 323 00:19:39,775 --> 00:19:43,855 Speaker 6: a staggering amount of the volume that you collect. So, yes, 324 00:19:43,935 --> 00:19:47,895 Speaker 6: if you've got relatively small gutters, which I know that 325 00:19:47,975 --> 00:19:52,255 Speaker 6: the original tailor facer did, versus let's say a one 326 00:19:52,455 --> 00:19:55,935 Speaker 6: fifty external spouting, right, which has a lot more volume 327 00:19:56,055 --> 00:19:59,815 Speaker 6: and can carry more water, then by the time the 328 00:19:59,855 --> 00:20:03,375 Speaker 6: water gets into the spouting travels to the downpipe. Often 329 00:20:03,415 --> 00:20:06,255 Speaker 6: the downpipes are actually relatively small. They might be sixty 330 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:09,415 Speaker 6: five millimeter as opposed to an eighty or one hundred 331 00:20:09,455 --> 00:20:14,575 Speaker 6: milimeter downpipe. That'll help, But look, I think you know 332 00:20:14,615 --> 00:20:16,855 Speaker 6: the issue is when it goes wrong or when we 333 00:20:16,935 --> 00:20:20,855 Speaker 6: have extreme well it's not even extreme weather. These sorts 334 00:20:20,855 --> 00:20:23,215 Speaker 6: of weather events are more and more common, right, It's 335 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:27,775 Speaker 6: not unusual now to get down paws of twenty thirty 336 00:20:27,815 --> 00:20:31,495 Speaker 6: millimeters of rain per hour for a sustained period. So 337 00:20:32,335 --> 00:20:34,735 Speaker 6: you know what happens with that the old tailor and 338 00:20:34,815 --> 00:20:37,455 Speaker 6: class facier is that it tends to flow over the 339 00:20:37,495 --> 00:20:40,855 Speaker 6: back of the the upstand of the gutter and then 340 00:20:40,895 --> 00:20:43,975 Speaker 6: it drops down onto the safet. And the safite is 341 00:20:44,135 --> 00:20:46,975 Speaker 6: installed before the cladding, and so the water tracks along 342 00:20:47,015 --> 00:20:50,175 Speaker 6: there and dives in behind the cladding. And that's that's 343 00:20:50,215 --> 00:20:53,655 Speaker 6: exactly what happened in your kitchen. So you know, I 344 00:20:53,695 --> 00:20:56,895 Speaker 6: think in this instance, if you had something whereby the 345 00:20:56,935 --> 00:20:59,855 Speaker 6: spouting is hanging on the outside of the facia and 346 00:20:59,895 --> 00:21:03,055 Speaker 6: that if the spouting can't cope, even if it flows 347 00:21:03,175 --> 00:21:06,815 Speaker 6: over the back of the spouting and down in front 348 00:21:06,815 --> 00:21:08,855 Speaker 6: of the faci, it it just goes onto the ground. 349 00:21:09,375 --> 00:21:15,335 Speaker 6: So yes, I mean, look, I think you know, you 350 00:21:15,335 --> 00:21:16,975 Speaker 6: can have a go at fixing it, or you can 351 00:21:16,975 --> 00:21:18,935 Speaker 6: have a go putting in more downpipes. The other thing 352 00:21:18,975 --> 00:21:21,015 Speaker 6: was putting in more downpipes is where do they go? 353 00:21:21,335 --> 00:21:21,535 Speaker 8: Right? 354 00:21:22,695 --> 00:21:25,215 Speaker 11: They just flaws? 355 00:21:25,495 --> 00:21:31,615 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yes, you could install more overflows. And look, 356 00:21:32,295 --> 00:21:35,415 Speaker 6: in the end, we're all constrained by budget, right, And 357 00:21:35,455 --> 00:21:38,615 Speaker 6: I'm very aware that sometimes I'll make a suggestion like 358 00:21:38,695 --> 00:21:41,775 Speaker 6: you should replace it, and realize that not everyone's in 359 00:21:41,815 --> 00:21:46,015 Speaker 6: a position where that's affordable, in which case, if you 360 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:49,135 Speaker 6: are constrained by budget or you don't want to invest 361 00:21:49,175 --> 00:21:52,935 Speaker 6: in it, then yeah, adding more overflows will help, but 362 00:21:53,055 --> 00:21:57,855 Speaker 6: it's it won't solve the problem. My feeling is, I'll 363 00:21:57,855 --> 00:22:01,495 Speaker 6: be quite honest about it, is that those systems typically 364 00:22:01,895 --> 00:22:05,535 Speaker 6: don't work particularly well, and so having a system with 365 00:22:05,735 --> 00:22:09,375 Speaker 6: facia and then outboard spouting seems to be a better solution. 366 00:22:10,335 --> 00:22:12,975 Speaker 6: And the reason I mentioned the two companies that I 367 00:22:13,015 --> 00:22:16,055 Speaker 6: have over the last little while is because I'm aware 368 00:22:16,095 --> 00:22:20,775 Speaker 6: that they've developed systems where they've got a retrofit system 369 00:22:21,175 --> 00:22:21,815 Speaker 6: that works. 370 00:22:21,975 --> 00:22:22,175 Speaker 8: Right. 371 00:22:22,615 --> 00:22:25,055 Speaker 6: I'm sure there are others. I'm not aware of them. 372 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:27,335 Speaker 6: I'm happy for someone to reach out to me and say, hey, 373 00:22:27,335 --> 00:22:29,855 Speaker 6: we've got a system as well. But I know that 374 00:22:30,295 --> 00:22:34,655 Speaker 6: both the custom Facier guys and Continuous Group have systems 375 00:22:34,695 --> 00:22:36,175 Speaker 6: that they've developed that work. 376 00:22:37,615 --> 00:22:40,295 Speaker 9: So it's Customs and Continuous. 377 00:22:40,735 --> 00:22:45,295 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, And I've seen both of their systems around. 378 00:22:45,655 --> 00:22:48,375 Speaker 6: I've had quotes from one of them anyway for a job, 379 00:22:48,495 --> 00:22:50,855 Speaker 6: just to get a rough idea, and I must stag 380 00:22:50,935 --> 00:22:54,015 Speaker 6: it out. Actually I didn't think it was well, look, 381 00:22:54,015 --> 00:22:57,215 Speaker 6: everything's expensive, but it didn't. It didn't feel like it 382 00:22:57,255 --> 00:23:00,295 Speaker 6: was an un reasonable amount of money to charge for 383 00:23:00,335 --> 00:23:02,495 Speaker 6: something that will give you so much peace of mind. 384 00:23:03,415 --> 00:23:07,215 Speaker 9: If you have a lineal lilion meta, how much to 385 00:23:07,255 --> 00:23:07,615 Speaker 9: a beta? 386 00:23:09,175 --> 00:23:09,215 Speaker 7: No? 387 00:23:09,415 --> 00:23:12,575 Speaker 6: Look, I tell you what, especially nowadays you know with 388 00:23:12,815 --> 00:23:16,895 Speaker 6: gies right and with satellite imagery. What I did is 389 00:23:17,015 --> 00:23:19,655 Speaker 6: it was a property that a family member was interested 390 00:23:19,655 --> 00:23:24,735 Speaker 6: in purchasing. It had that concealed spouting facial system, and 391 00:23:24,775 --> 00:23:26,935 Speaker 6: I said, if you go ahead and buy the property, 392 00:23:26,935 --> 00:23:29,215 Speaker 6: you should set aside some money to resolve it. And 393 00:23:29,255 --> 00:23:34,175 Speaker 6: so I simply sent the address. It was custom Actually 394 00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:36,775 Speaker 6: who did the pricing for me. Sent it to them. 395 00:23:36,855 --> 00:23:39,535 Speaker 6: They can measure it using satellite imagery and gave me 396 00:23:39,575 --> 00:23:41,175 Speaker 6: a quote back, so they don't even have to send 397 00:23:41,175 --> 00:23:44,135 Speaker 6: someone out, so that that part of the technology is fantastic. 398 00:23:45,935 --> 00:23:48,335 Speaker 6: Get a price, and then you can decide that's always 399 00:23:48,335 --> 00:23:55,655 Speaker 6: the best thing. Hey, good luck with that, you know. Yeah, 400 00:23:55,855 --> 00:23:58,935 Speaker 6: Well hopefully I've just given you information you can convince yourself. 401 00:23:59,175 --> 00:24:01,055 Speaker 6: There you go, mate, All the very best to your Brian, 402 00:24:01,415 --> 00:24:07,255 Speaker 6: take care. Maybe this is the thing and I'm in 403 00:24:07,295 --> 00:24:09,815 Speaker 6: the same situation where you know, like for Brian, he's 404 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,295 Speaker 6: going to spend some money to resolve a problem in 405 00:24:13,335 --> 00:24:15,135 Speaker 6: the end, but he's still going to sort of get 406 00:24:15,175 --> 00:24:18,015 Speaker 6: what he's already got, which is, you know, some sort 407 00:24:18,015 --> 00:24:19,975 Speaker 6: of facire around the outside of the building and some 408 00:24:20,055 --> 00:24:23,095 Speaker 6: spouting right the idea being it captures the water directs 409 00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:26,415 Speaker 6: it to this downpipes. So you end up spending money, 410 00:24:26,415 --> 00:24:28,095 Speaker 6: but you just get what you had before. In the 411 00:24:28,135 --> 00:24:30,295 Speaker 6: same way that the project one of the projects that 412 00:24:30,295 --> 00:24:33,015 Speaker 6: I'm doing at the moment, restoring or replacing all of 413 00:24:33,055 --> 00:24:36,455 Speaker 6: the handrails and ballusters. In the end, after all of 414 00:24:36,455 --> 00:24:39,135 Speaker 6: the work that I've done, I just get back what 415 00:24:39,215 --> 00:24:42,815 Speaker 6: I had before, which is kind of maintenance. Normally, if 416 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:46,295 Speaker 6: we're doing projects, we want to see some dramatic improvement, 417 00:24:46,295 --> 00:24:48,615 Speaker 6: and while this will look better, it'll be what I 418 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,215 Speaker 6: had before, just that won't be falling apart, which I 419 00:24:51,255 --> 00:24:53,815 Speaker 6: suppose is better. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 420 00:24:53,855 --> 00:24:57,615 Speaker 6: If you've got a question about building, about building legislation, 421 00:24:57,695 --> 00:25:01,375 Speaker 6: starting to get a few texts and around the new certification, 422 00:25:01,455 --> 00:25:02,815 Speaker 6: this is a good one actually, before we go to 423 00:25:02,855 --> 00:25:05,495 Speaker 6: the break, Hey, Pete, the new certifications being sold as 424 00:25:05,495 --> 00:25:07,655 Speaker 6: a money saverer for the building owner. I wonder how 425 00:25:07,735 --> 00:25:11,095 Speaker 6: much insurance will cost. I suspect if it's available, this 426 00:25:11,135 --> 00:25:14,055 Speaker 6: will cancel out any savings. Also be interested if the 427 00:25:14,095 --> 00:25:17,935 Speaker 6: insurance company sticks around when one mistake is repeated through 428 00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:22,495 Speaker 6: one hundred houses. Interesting point. Look, it's a great discussion 429 00:25:22,575 --> 00:25:24,775 Speaker 6: and we need to have this discussion and people need 430 00:25:24,815 --> 00:25:29,255 Speaker 6: to be aware, I suppose of some of the potential pitfalls. 431 00:25:29,775 --> 00:25:31,895 Speaker 6: These are also the sort of texts that I hope 432 00:25:31,895 --> 00:25:35,815 Speaker 6: you'll send in again next week when Chris Pink, the Minister, 433 00:25:37,055 --> 00:25:40,055 Speaker 6: will be here in the studio. We'll have a bit 434 00:25:40,055 --> 00:25:41,975 Speaker 6: of a chat and you'll have an opportunity to text 435 00:25:42,055 --> 00:25:45,895 Speaker 6: or possibly even phone through. So he's making himself available 436 00:25:46,335 --> 00:25:50,055 Speaker 6: pretty much for an hour, which I'm very grateful for 437 00:25:50,095 --> 00:25:53,255 Speaker 6: from early on Sunday morning. So looking forward to that. 438 00:25:53,255 --> 00:25:56,815 Speaker 6: That's next Sunday, Sunday, the eleventh of May, oh eight 439 00:25:56,935 --> 00:25:58,815 Speaker 6: hundred eighty ten eighty. The number call. 440 00:25:58,855 --> 00:26:01,775 Speaker 1: Whether you're paidy the ceiling, fixing the fens or wondering 441 00:26:01,775 --> 00:26:03,895 Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, Give feeder, 442 00:26:03,935 --> 00:26:06,095 Speaker 1: wolf gabber call on eight hundred. 443 00:26:05,935 --> 00:26:08,855 Speaker 4: Eighty ten eighty the resident builder on Youth Dogs. 444 00:26:08,855 --> 00:26:12,575 Speaker 6: That'd be talking all things building and construction, the actual 445 00:26:12,695 --> 00:26:17,055 Speaker 6: practical bits as well as the rules and regulations and 446 00:26:17,135 --> 00:26:20,015 Speaker 6: the materials that are out there, and again this is 447 00:26:20,015 --> 00:26:22,375 Speaker 6: probably something to discuss with the Minister when he joins 448 00:26:22,455 --> 00:26:25,815 Speaker 6: us in the studio next week. Is around the change 449 00:26:25,855 --> 00:26:29,255 Speaker 6: to the legislation that will allow the importation and use 450 00:26:29,455 --> 00:26:34,375 Speaker 6: of building products perhaps that haven't got New Zealand certification 451 00:26:34,495 --> 00:26:36,855 Speaker 6: that are not tested here if you can prove that 452 00:26:36,895 --> 00:26:41,655 Speaker 6: they've been manufactured to a similar standard as what would 453 00:26:41,655 --> 00:26:44,935 Speaker 6: be acceptable in New Zealand. So again gets quite complicated 454 00:26:44,975 --> 00:26:48,055 Speaker 6: quite quickly. We'll talk about that maybe with the Minister 455 00:26:48,215 --> 00:26:50,895 Speaker 6: as well. To be fair, I think it makes a 456 00:26:50,935 --> 00:26:54,375 Speaker 6: lot of sense. But it'll be in conversation to have 457 00:26:54,495 --> 00:26:56,255 Speaker 6: with the people at Brands too when I'm down there 458 00:26:56,255 --> 00:26:58,575 Speaker 6: on Friday. So really looking forward to that. Oh eight 459 00:26:58,735 --> 00:27:01,055 Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Kate 460 00:27:01,175 --> 00:27:02,375 Speaker 6: A very good morning to you. 461 00:27:03,415 --> 00:27:05,895 Speaker 12: Good morning to you, Pete. I trust you, Oh well, 462 00:27:06,455 --> 00:27:09,855 Speaker 12: thank you and you yes, thank you. I have a 463 00:27:09,975 --> 00:27:11,735 Speaker 12: very quick question. I think I've had a bit of 464 00:27:11,855 --> 00:27:16,375 Speaker 12: landscaping done and I've used Jack Matte. The chap did 465 00:27:16,415 --> 00:27:18,975 Speaker 12: a good job with all of the laying of the 466 00:27:19,015 --> 00:27:21,335 Speaker 12: base course and the Jack matt and filling it in. 467 00:27:22,135 --> 00:27:26,615 Speaker 12: Oh he's had to box in the it's for parking, yes, 468 00:27:27,015 --> 00:27:29,615 Speaker 12: so he's had to box in some areas, and there 469 00:27:29,655 --> 00:27:33,215 Speaker 12: will be occasionally a car perhaps driving over the boxing 470 00:27:33,255 --> 00:27:34,295 Speaker 12: if they missed the edge. 471 00:27:34,455 --> 00:27:34,935 Speaker 13: O ye. 472 00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:39,455 Speaker 12: And yet most of the timber that he used to 473 00:27:39,535 --> 00:27:43,615 Speaker 12: box in has been retained with waratas about a third 474 00:27:43,655 --> 00:27:43,895 Speaker 12: of it. 475 00:27:43,975 --> 00:27:46,255 Speaker 13: He used some posts yep, which. 476 00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:48,775 Speaker 12: Are one hundred by one hundred and concrete it in 477 00:27:48,815 --> 00:27:50,895 Speaker 12: and then they are along the lower areas where there 478 00:27:50,935 --> 00:27:53,215 Speaker 12: wasn't quite such a height that he had to retain. 479 00:27:53,895 --> 00:27:56,895 Speaker 12: He's used waratas. Can they stay in the ground long 480 00:27:57,015 --> 00:27:59,935 Speaker 12: term or will they rust? Or will they you know, 481 00:28:00,015 --> 00:28:02,055 Speaker 12: what's the story with these things? I thought they were 482 00:28:02,135 --> 00:28:03,975 Speaker 12: just for stil fence and half. 483 00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:09,175 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, fabulous in the sense that you know, for 484 00:28:10,015 --> 00:28:12,855 Speaker 6: fencing and temporary fencing and so on. They've certainly got 485 00:28:12,895 --> 00:28:15,975 Speaker 6: their uses, and I think, you know, I was looking 486 00:28:15,975 --> 00:28:18,415 Speaker 6: at job this week that had some warritas used as 487 00:28:18,535 --> 00:28:22,135 Speaker 6: retaining as well, but it was more in a temporary sense. Look, 488 00:28:22,455 --> 00:28:24,935 Speaker 6: I think the beauty of them is that they are 489 00:28:25,135 --> 00:28:28,775 Speaker 6: remarkably robust. They're easy to drive in. You know, you 490 00:28:28,815 --> 00:28:31,055 Speaker 6: can drive them in a decent way into the ground. 491 00:28:31,375 --> 00:28:36,335 Speaker 6: Just using a sledgehammer or something similar. If it's like 492 00:28:36,575 --> 00:28:39,695 Speaker 6: edging and maybe it holds up to I don't know, 493 00:28:39,735 --> 00:28:42,535 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty two hundred millimeters, then I think 494 00:28:42,575 --> 00:28:46,055 Speaker 6: they're probably not a bad solution. And look, they'll last 495 00:28:46,095 --> 00:28:48,295 Speaker 6: as long as you need them to last. I think, 496 00:28:49,055 --> 00:28:51,455 Speaker 6: you know, jeep as, I've probably got a collection of 497 00:28:51,455 --> 00:28:54,215 Speaker 6: them underneath the house that I've used for twenty years 498 00:28:54,295 --> 00:28:56,655 Speaker 6: or something like that, and they're still, you know, showing 499 00:28:56,695 --> 00:28:59,015 Speaker 6: no sign of wear and tear. And I'm sure even 500 00:28:59,015 --> 00:29:01,575 Speaker 6: if they were in the ground, they'd last twenty years 501 00:29:01,615 --> 00:29:04,655 Speaker 6: twenty five years before they started to fail. You wouldn't, 502 00:29:05,055 --> 00:29:07,175 Speaker 6: you know, because they're driven in to the ground and 503 00:29:07,615 --> 00:29:11,135 Speaker 6: they're actually remarkably strong given how small they are. But 504 00:29:11,255 --> 00:29:13,815 Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't use them. And it sounds like he 505 00:29:13,895 --> 00:29:17,535 Speaker 6: hasn't used them for retaining anything significant. It's just where 506 00:29:17,575 --> 00:29:20,255 Speaker 6: it gets quite shallow. You can use them to kind 507 00:29:20,255 --> 00:29:27,095 Speaker 6: of stake the edges and and it'll probably be fine, 508 00:29:28,335 --> 00:29:28,815 Speaker 6: thank you. 509 00:29:28,775 --> 00:29:28,935 Speaker 8: You know. 510 00:29:29,175 --> 00:29:34,695 Speaker 6: It's look, I think, to be fair, if you went 511 00:29:34,735 --> 00:29:36,455 Speaker 6: out and had a look at them in five years time, 512 00:29:36,815 --> 00:29:38,935 Speaker 6: there'd be a little bit of rust on the top, 513 00:29:39,975 --> 00:29:44,975 Speaker 6: but it's not going to you know, make it's not 514 00:29:45,015 --> 00:29:46,055 Speaker 6: going to lead to failure. 515 00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:51,215 Speaker 12: If that was the concern, I'm very reassured because clearly, Pete, 516 00:29:51,415 --> 00:29:53,615 Speaker 12: they are going to last longer than I am. 517 00:29:54,815 --> 00:29:57,895 Speaker 6: And I wasn't going to say anything like that, but 518 00:29:57,975 --> 00:30:00,175 Speaker 6: I think, you know, at a certain point we all 519 00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:04,455 Speaker 6: recognize that this, this is probably a reality in our 520 00:30:04,535 --> 00:30:07,255 Speaker 6: lives as we age, is that some things will outlast us. 521 00:30:07,295 --> 00:30:10,135 Speaker 12: Now that's great, appreciate it. 522 00:30:10,135 --> 00:30:12,815 Speaker 6: No, look, I think it's in and it's straight, and 523 00:30:12,855 --> 00:30:16,615 Speaker 6: it's not holding up a huge amount of weight. It'll 524 00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:17,495 Speaker 6: be absolutely fine. 525 00:30:17,695 --> 00:30:20,575 Speaker 12: Then they can be driven over if if somebody doesn't 526 00:30:20,615 --> 00:30:22,495 Speaker 12: drive very well off the parking. 527 00:30:22,535 --> 00:30:24,335 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, I wouldn't want to drive over 528 00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:26,775 Speaker 6: the top of a warritor because they're relatively sharp on 529 00:30:26,815 --> 00:30:29,015 Speaker 6: the top. I don't think it'd be terribly good for 530 00:30:29,055 --> 00:30:33,775 Speaker 6: your tires. But yes, if somebody did drive over them, yeah. 531 00:30:33,215 --> 00:30:36,415 Speaker 12: Well it's lower than in the edge of the timber. 532 00:30:36,455 --> 00:30:38,535 Speaker 12: So they're driving over the timber as long as it's 533 00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:39,215 Speaker 12: strong enough. 534 00:30:39,495 --> 00:30:42,495 Speaker 6: And the challenging thing with them is how do you 535 00:30:42,535 --> 00:30:44,335 Speaker 6: then fit the timber to it. So what I presume 536 00:30:44,455 --> 00:30:47,055 Speaker 6: is they've done from the back is just use some 537 00:30:47,095 --> 00:30:49,215 Speaker 6: tech screws or something like that, like a Heck's he'd 538 00:30:49,255 --> 00:30:52,455 Speaker 6: screw and just screwed straight into the timber from behind. 539 00:30:53,575 --> 00:30:57,415 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's it'll be fun. Yeah, thank you, 540 00:30:57,455 --> 00:30:58,175 Speaker 12: No trouble at all. 541 00:30:59,135 --> 00:31:02,855 Speaker 6: Take care see then by then. And I think it 542 00:31:02,935 --> 00:31:05,935 Speaker 6: was actually the Minister Chris Pine used the phrase when 543 00:31:05,975 --> 00:31:09,175 Speaker 6: you did the interview last week, quick and dirty solutions. 544 00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:13,415 Speaker 6: And sometimes that's okay stuff. Some stuff just needs to 545 00:31:13,535 --> 00:31:16,575 Speaker 6: last for a while. But and I think this is 546 00:31:16,615 --> 00:31:20,295 Speaker 6: the challenge with building and builders is you know, for 547 00:31:20,375 --> 00:31:23,855 Speaker 6: all of us, we're really focused on getting our job 548 00:31:23,975 --> 00:31:28,415 Speaker 6: done today. You know, if that's putting on building paper 549 00:31:28,455 --> 00:31:32,255 Speaker 6: and putting wraps in or ceiling around penetrations, we're thinking 550 00:31:32,255 --> 00:31:35,655 Speaker 6: about getting the job done today. And I think one 551 00:31:35,655 --> 00:31:38,055 Speaker 6: of the things we have to teach the young builders 552 00:31:38,055 --> 00:31:40,575 Speaker 6: coming through is that what you're actually doing is not 553 00:31:40,695 --> 00:31:44,215 Speaker 6: about today. It's about next week and the week after, 554 00:31:44,295 --> 00:31:47,615 Speaker 6: and the month after and the year after and effectively 555 00:31:47,695 --> 00:31:50,255 Speaker 6: the decade after. You know, if we're asking for our 556 00:31:50,295 --> 00:31:53,135 Speaker 6: buildings to have a minimum time to stay up in 557 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:55,855 Speaker 6: terms of the structure of fifty years, what you've got 558 00:31:55,855 --> 00:31:57,695 Speaker 6: to be thinking, what's got to be front of mind 559 00:31:57,695 --> 00:32:01,175 Speaker 6: when you're building, is is this going to last twenty years? 560 00:32:01,295 --> 00:32:03,135 Speaker 6: This is what I'm doing going to be good enough, 561 00:32:03,175 --> 00:32:05,415 Speaker 6: not just for today, but for the next twenty years. 562 00:32:05,455 --> 00:32:12,615 Speaker 6: I think that's really really important. Sorry, I'll see the text. 563 00:32:13,055 --> 00:32:13,335 Speaker 9: Pete. 564 00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:15,895 Speaker 6: You can find the war Retar sailing on the inter Islander. 565 00:32:16,415 --> 00:32:21,055 Speaker 6: That's very good. I suspect because young Isaiah, my producer, 566 00:32:21,215 --> 00:32:24,055 Speaker 6: is of a much younger vintage than I, that that 567 00:32:24,175 --> 00:32:26,975 Speaker 6: reference will just sail right over his head, just right 568 00:32:27,015 --> 00:32:29,575 Speaker 6: over the top. But I get it, and there'll be 569 00:32:29,615 --> 00:32:32,335 Speaker 6: people chuckling, So I love that. Pete. You can find 570 00:32:32,375 --> 00:32:35,975 Speaker 6: the Warratar sailing on the inter Islander from Alex very good, 571 00:32:36,335 --> 00:32:39,935 Speaker 6: very droll, very droll. Indeed, seventeen minutes away from seven 572 00:32:39,975 --> 00:32:42,215 Speaker 6: back after the break, will take your calls. Eight hundred 573 00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:44,095 Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty is the number. 574 00:32:44,895 --> 00:32:47,055 Speaker 4: Squeaky door or squeaky floor. 575 00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:50,655 Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfgaf, the resident builder 576 00:32:50,735 --> 00:32:52,015 Speaker 1: on news Talks, heb. 577 00:32:52,735 --> 00:32:54,535 Speaker 6: You and news Talk SIB. If you've got a question 578 00:32:54,655 --> 00:32:57,015 Speaker 6: of a building nature, we can take your calls right now. 579 00:32:57,015 --> 00:32:59,295 Speaker 6: We've got some spare lines. That's eight hundred and eighty 580 00:32:59,455 --> 00:33:02,855 Speaker 6: ten eighty and I mean This is a show where 581 00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:05,295 Speaker 6: we can pretty much talk about anything related to building, 582 00:33:05,295 --> 00:33:09,575 Speaker 6: whether it's the and the regulations, the practical stuff dealing 583 00:33:09,575 --> 00:33:14,175 Speaker 6: with subcontractors. We had a couple of really good questions 584 00:33:14,255 --> 00:33:18,535 Speaker 6: last week around subcontractors, and not so much hourly rates, 585 00:33:18,535 --> 00:33:19,975 Speaker 6: because I think that's the sort of thing that you 586 00:33:20,055 --> 00:33:22,935 Speaker 6: have to decide. Still have in the back of my 587 00:33:23,015 --> 00:33:27,455 Speaker 6: mind one someone saying what's an appropriate margin for subcontractors 588 00:33:27,495 --> 00:33:31,615 Speaker 6: to charge on materials? But I think all of these 589 00:33:31,655 --> 00:33:35,575 Speaker 6: things are up to up for discussion, as in, if 590 00:33:35,615 --> 00:33:38,735 Speaker 6: you're engaging with a contractor, it's part of your negotiations 591 00:33:38,735 --> 00:33:42,775 Speaker 6: with the subcontractor to decide. And if you find one subcontractor, 592 00:33:43,215 --> 00:33:47,175 Speaker 6: for example, who has a lower margin, you may choose 593 00:33:47,215 --> 00:33:48,775 Speaker 6: to go with that person, But then you've got to 594 00:33:48,775 --> 00:33:51,415 Speaker 6: look at other parts of the contractor to determine whether 595 00:33:51,535 --> 00:33:53,375 Speaker 6: or not that's fair. In fact, Made of Mind rang 596 00:33:53,415 --> 00:33:56,375 Speaker 6: me yesterday and said, look, I've just had some I've 597 00:33:56,415 --> 00:34:01,655 Speaker 6: had three prices for scaffolding, just scaffolding for a relatively small, 598 00:34:02,815 --> 00:34:06,175 Speaker 6: average sized building. Some of it's slightly taller, some of 599 00:34:06,175 --> 00:34:08,375 Speaker 6: the it's not so tall. Got a scaffold around the 600 00:34:08,375 --> 00:34:11,655 Speaker 6: building for painting and maintenance and also some edge protection 601 00:34:11,695 --> 00:34:14,015 Speaker 6: because someone's going to be working on the roof. And 602 00:34:14,215 --> 00:34:17,055 Speaker 6: the prices came in and he said, what I have noticed, 603 00:34:17,095 --> 00:34:19,855 Speaker 6: and maybe you've noticed this as well, is that typically 604 00:34:20,535 --> 00:34:23,535 Speaker 6: when you get a scaffolding company to come in price, 605 00:34:23,775 --> 00:34:28,495 Speaker 6: the price is often for the supply and erection of 606 00:34:28,535 --> 00:34:31,335 Speaker 6: the scaffolding on site, and then you get basically a 607 00:34:31,415 --> 00:34:35,335 Speaker 6: month's higher included in that initial fee, and then thereafter 608 00:34:35,375 --> 00:34:39,775 Speaker 6: there'll be a weekly higher until the job's finished, and 609 00:34:39,815 --> 00:34:41,935 Speaker 6: then the cost of pulling it down is included in 610 00:34:41,935 --> 00:34:45,095 Speaker 6: the cost of putting it up. But it seems to 611 00:34:45,135 --> 00:34:47,815 Speaker 6: have changed and now all of the prices that were 612 00:34:47,815 --> 00:34:52,495 Speaker 6: supplied were to supply and erect the scaffold and one 613 00:34:52,535 --> 00:34:56,095 Speaker 6: week's higher basically including the price, and after one week 614 00:34:56,135 --> 00:34:58,375 Speaker 6: you started paying on a weekly basis, So it seems 615 00:34:58,415 --> 00:35:00,415 Speaker 6: like that's changed as well. You make here to comment, 616 00:35:00,655 --> 00:35:02,615 Speaker 6: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 617 00:35:02,695 --> 00:35:08,175 Speaker 6: number to call. Very good question as well. On the text, Hey, Pete, 618 00:35:08,175 --> 00:35:11,735 Speaker 6: there's been a lot of government announcements on building changes recently, 619 00:35:11,855 --> 00:35:14,895 Speaker 6: just wondering when they will be in use. And then 620 00:35:14,895 --> 00:35:18,535 Speaker 6: there's a proposed three six four changes to include medium 621 00:35:18,575 --> 00:35:22,655 Speaker 6: density three stories that were announced in twenty twenty twenty 622 00:35:22,655 --> 00:35:25,535 Speaker 6: one to be in place by twenty twenty three. Where 623 00:35:25,615 --> 00:35:28,655 Speaker 6: is that at very good question. I'll try and save 624 00:35:28,735 --> 00:35:30,535 Speaker 6: that and we can put that to the minister. So 625 00:35:30,615 --> 00:35:34,815 Speaker 6: three six four is NZS three six four. It is 626 00:35:34,855 --> 00:35:40,055 Speaker 6: the guide for light for basically timber frame construction up 627 00:35:40,095 --> 00:35:43,055 Speaker 6: to two stories. But given that we're getting more and 628 00:35:43,095 --> 00:35:46,895 Speaker 6: more developments of three stories, you can't use three six 629 00:35:47,055 --> 00:35:50,935 Speaker 6: h four to design those. You have to end up 630 00:35:51,575 --> 00:35:56,495 Speaker 6: having specific engineering design, obviously predominantly to deal with bracing 631 00:35:57,375 --> 00:36:00,575 Speaker 6: because the building is that extra story tall. So will 632 00:36:00,615 --> 00:36:03,575 Speaker 6: there be changes to three six four to allow you 633 00:36:03,655 --> 00:36:07,615 Speaker 6: to use that guide as a way of designing relatively 634 00:36:07,655 --> 00:36:11,375 Speaker 6: straightforward buildings to three stories high. That's a very good question. 635 00:36:11,455 --> 00:36:13,975 Speaker 6: I'll photograph that text or I'll get someone to pull 636 00:36:13,975 --> 00:36:16,015 Speaker 6: it off the machine and we can put that to 637 00:36:16,615 --> 00:36:18,775 Speaker 6: the minister next week as well. Ten minutes away from 638 00:36:18,855 --> 00:36:20,735 Speaker 6: seven to don hello there. 639 00:36:21,335 --> 00:36:24,215 Speaker 14: Hello, I just rang up on site. This was interested 640 00:36:24,455 --> 00:36:26,815 Speaker 14: in Palmiston North On the eighteenth of May, we are 641 00:36:26,815 --> 00:36:32,095 Speaker 14: having a wood turning, a speed wood turning competition where 642 00:36:33,415 --> 00:36:35,175 Speaker 14: turners are going to turn a bowl or some of 643 00:36:35,215 --> 00:36:37,135 Speaker 14: the best tenners and you are going to tempt to 644 00:36:37,135 --> 00:36:40,255 Speaker 14: turn a bowl in fifteen minutes. They'll all start off 645 00:36:40,255 --> 00:36:44,935 Speaker 14: with just like the Golden Cheers Award, the Golden Chizzle Award, 646 00:36:45,415 --> 00:36:48,055 Speaker 14: where turners are going to turn a bowl in fifteen minutes, 647 00:36:48,095 --> 00:36:51,215 Speaker 14: straight off the lathe and no sandpaper, and they're going 648 00:36:51,215 --> 00:36:53,655 Speaker 14: to be judged and the winner is going to get 649 00:36:53,695 --> 00:36:55,335 Speaker 14: what we call the Golden Chisel Trophy. 650 00:36:55,815 --> 00:36:58,815 Speaker 6: That's awesome. I love that. I think that's the. 651 00:36:58,735 --> 00:37:00,455 Speaker 14: First time it's been I think the first time it's 652 00:37:00,455 --> 00:37:04,975 Speaker 14: been attempted in New Zealand. Really speak takeular for for 653 00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:06,615 Speaker 14: your listeners if they want to come up have a 654 00:37:06,655 --> 00:37:09,295 Speaker 14: look Ammittally. It's some Palmiston North, but it's on the Sunday, 655 00:37:09,335 --> 00:37:14,495 Speaker 14: the eighteenth of May at the at the Barber Hall 656 00:37:14,575 --> 00:37:16,055 Speaker 14: and Water Grocery, Parmiston North. 657 00:37:17,175 --> 00:37:19,575 Speaker 6: If people want to find out more, don is there 658 00:37:19,695 --> 00:37:24,015 Speaker 6: like a Facebook page, Instagram website for this is someone. 659 00:37:24,095 --> 00:37:26,175 Speaker 14: We can go on to the manor to Woodworkers Killed 660 00:37:26,935 --> 00:37:30,135 Speaker 14: website and there's information on there about it and there 661 00:37:30,215 --> 00:37:34,015 Speaker 14: is in Facebook's available too. I'm telling you all about it. 662 00:37:34,015 --> 00:37:35,935 Speaker 14: It will be going all day. It's called the Central 663 00:37:35,975 --> 00:37:39,935 Speaker 14: Districts Woodworking expo, and there's all sorts of people there, 664 00:37:39,975 --> 00:37:42,135 Speaker 14: but they will be part of the show. 665 00:37:42,335 --> 00:37:45,855 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Look, I really appreciate the heads up on that, 666 00:37:45,935 --> 00:37:48,975 Speaker 6: and I'm curious about the technical side of it. So 667 00:37:49,095 --> 00:37:52,015 Speaker 6: will each of the turners bring their own lath or 668 00:37:52,055 --> 00:37:53,935 Speaker 6: will you have a whole series of laths set up? 669 00:37:53,975 --> 00:37:58,055 Speaker 15: That are we provide the six lades. They're all the 670 00:37:58,055 --> 00:38:00,535 Speaker 15: type of blades. Actually, they're all you know, about the 671 00:38:00,575 --> 00:38:03,295 Speaker 15: same standard, so that you know, there's no penalty for 672 00:38:03,295 --> 00:38:04,935 Speaker 15: having a slower laser going to. 673 00:38:04,935 --> 00:38:07,455 Speaker 6: Say, you know, I mean it could be rigged. 674 00:38:08,575 --> 00:38:09,495 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll give. 675 00:38:09,415 --> 00:38:14,575 Speaker 14: Some Yeah, we're all turning the same blank which is 676 00:38:14,575 --> 00:38:16,855 Speaker 14: a piece. It was a microcappa, which is having fifty 677 00:38:17,255 --> 00:38:20,975 Speaker 14: seventy five okay, and it's not only the first one 678 00:38:20,975 --> 00:38:25,135 Speaker 14: past the post, it's the more consistency of the bowls 679 00:38:25,135 --> 00:38:27,455 Speaker 14: as well, and finish it again and things like that, 680 00:38:28,095 --> 00:38:31,255 Speaker 14: and some quite good price manage to be made. So yeah, 681 00:38:31,455 --> 00:38:34,135 Speaker 14: and so we're going to try it a manerer Widuks Guild. 682 00:38:34,135 --> 00:38:37,215 Speaker 14: And I just thought your listeners would be brilliant, brilliant. 683 00:38:38,015 --> 00:38:40,695 Speaker 6: I'll look it up online as well, and I think 684 00:38:40,735 --> 00:38:42,855 Speaker 6: that's awesome. It'd be a great thing to. 685 00:38:42,815 --> 00:38:46,295 Speaker 4: Be part of. Thank you very much much pleasure, all. 686 00:38:46,215 --> 00:38:49,895 Speaker 6: The best on all take care. So just those details again. 687 00:38:49,935 --> 00:38:53,095 Speaker 6: I think if you search Manoa two wood Workers Guild, 688 00:38:53,255 --> 00:38:57,735 Speaker 6: it's the Central District's wood Turning Festival eighteenth of May 689 00:38:57,895 --> 00:39:03,655 Speaker 6: Palastan North Fay because I got a message from some 690 00:39:03,655 --> 00:39:06,415 Speaker 6: friends of mine in the UK the other day who 691 00:39:06,575 --> 00:39:09,695 Speaker 6: who as a day out sort of thing. They went 692 00:39:09,775 --> 00:39:12,775 Speaker 6: and found some local wood turners and had a day 693 00:39:12,855 --> 00:39:15,415 Speaker 6: or a morning of wood turning. Never done it before 694 00:39:15,455 --> 00:39:20,335 Speaker 6: in their lives, but obviously with some professional supervision they 695 00:39:20,335 --> 00:39:23,455 Speaker 6: were able to go and create something. I haven't done 696 00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:24,775 Speaker 6: wood turning since. 697 00:39:26,055 --> 00:39:26,455 Speaker 4: Kriichi. 698 00:39:27,655 --> 00:39:29,495 Speaker 6: I think pretty much. The one and only time that 699 00:39:29,535 --> 00:39:33,215 Speaker 6: I ever did wood turning was in woodwork class with 700 00:39:33,295 --> 00:39:37,695 Speaker 6: mister Buckton in about nineteen seventy eight. Thank you very much. 701 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:40,855 Speaker 6: Form one nineteen seventy eight woodworking class with mister Buckton, 702 00:39:41,695 --> 00:39:44,135 Speaker 6: and he allowed me at the end of the year 703 00:39:44,175 --> 00:39:46,895 Speaker 6: to use the lathe. And I tell you what I made, 704 00:39:47,335 --> 00:39:51,335 Speaker 6: effectively like a mallet you know that you'd use for chisling. 705 00:39:53,575 --> 00:39:56,375 Speaker 6: And I made that and I've still got it. I've 706 00:39:56,415 --> 00:39:58,375 Speaker 6: still got it and I still use it from time 707 00:39:58,415 --> 00:40:02,375 Speaker 6: to time. One of my most treasured possessions, to be fair, 708 00:40:02,695 --> 00:40:05,495 Speaker 6: a mallet that I made nineteen seventy eight, woodworking class. 709 00:40:05,535 --> 00:40:08,455 Speaker 6: Ah see, good stuff last eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 710 00:40:08,455 --> 00:40:11,575 Speaker 6: The number the call pat Hello there, Hello. 711 00:40:11,815 --> 00:40:14,855 Speaker 16: Just to be call. I don't even remember. I ran 712 00:40:14,935 --> 00:40:18,815 Speaker 16: you before Christmas about my conservative roof that had hail 713 00:40:18,895 --> 00:40:22,455 Speaker 16: damage for the third time. And my son in law 714 00:40:22,495 --> 00:40:26,535 Speaker 16: has replaced the roof with the refrigerating panels and then 715 00:40:26,615 --> 00:40:28,055 Speaker 16: it's marvelous. 716 00:40:29,295 --> 00:40:33,255 Speaker 6: Okay, So this has been a solution to a problem 717 00:40:33,295 --> 00:40:35,095 Speaker 6: with the conservatory roofs leaking. 718 00:40:35,535 --> 00:40:38,335 Speaker 16: Yes, yes, and it was it was full of holes 719 00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:41,695 Speaker 16: that hailstones, and the raid got into the first layer 720 00:40:41,695 --> 00:40:42,855 Speaker 16: and it went all green. 721 00:40:44,615 --> 00:40:47,695 Speaker 6: I think too. There there's something about, you know, the 722 00:40:48,255 --> 00:40:52,135 Speaker 6: change in the environment and climatic conditions and so on, 723 00:40:52,215 --> 00:40:55,295 Speaker 6: that you know in the same way that I think 724 00:40:55,335 --> 00:40:58,735 Speaker 6: we used to look at It's almost like twenty five 725 00:40:58,815 --> 00:41:01,695 Speaker 6: thirty years ago we all discovered that actually having north 726 00:41:01,735 --> 00:41:05,215 Speaker 6: facing aspect is really really cool, right for our really 727 00:41:05,215 --> 00:41:08,455 Speaker 6: really hot actually for our houses. So let's orientate our 728 00:41:08,495 --> 00:41:10,495 Speaker 6: houses to the north, let's open them up to the 729 00:41:10,535 --> 00:41:14,175 Speaker 6: sun and so on. But now suddenly we're also going criky. 730 00:41:14,215 --> 00:41:16,735 Speaker 6: It gets boiling hot, and the same a little bit 731 00:41:16,735 --> 00:41:19,335 Speaker 6: with conservatories. You know, hey, let's have this grape, big 732 00:41:19,335 --> 00:41:22,335 Speaker 6: glass structure and absorb all of this heat. And now 733 00:41:22,975 --> 00:41:25,215 Speaker 6: we're sort of going criky. Now that we've got all 734 00:41:25,295 --> 00:41:27,095 Speaker 6: this heat, How do we manage it? What do we 735 00:41:27,135 --> 00:41:29,775 Speaker 6: do with it? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So 736 00:41:31,295 --> 00:41:34,655 Speaker 6: I think replacing clear roofing, let's say, with something that's 737 00:41:34,695 --> 00:41:39,815 Speaker 6: actually insulated like that insulated roof panel in some situations 738 00:41:39,855 --> 00:41:40,855 Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense. 739 00:41:41,335 --> 00:41:43,575 Speaker 4: That's awesome, it certainly does. 740 00:41:43,655 --> 00:41:47,055 Speaker 16: But also too, when he was out there, he noticed 741 00:41:47,135 --> 00:41:49,815 Speaker 16: where I've had a man out there to clear up 742 00:41:49,815 --> 00:41:53,015 Speaker 16: my spou thing. Yes, it was awful at cracks. 743 00:41:52,575 --> 00:41:55,895 Speaker 8: At this for me thick, Oh okay. 744 00:41:55,695 --> 00:41:59,855 Speaker 16: Big hole. So now I'm morter tized and I'm so 745 00:42:00,055 --> 00:42:02,375 Speaker 16: happy with its. 746 00:42:01,775 --> 00:42:05,135 Speaker 6: Ring and oh that's fabulous. No, I really appreciate the update. 747 00:42:05,255 --> 00:42:09,015 Speaker 6: And look, it does feel good when we do. You know, 748 00:42:09,055 --> 00:42:11,415 Speaker 6: if we know we've got a problem with our houses, right, 749 00:42:11,455 --> 00:42:14,695 Speaker 6: whether it's leaky this or a door that's a bit funny, 750 00:42:14,895 --> 00:42:17,935 Speaker 6: or we know that the downpipe is not quite working, 751 00:42:18,215 --> 00:42:22,695 Speaker 6: or the simple satisfaction of cleaning out your guttering right, 752 00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:25,975 Speaker 6: just knowing that it works when it rains and it 753 00:42:26,015 --> 00:42:31,135 Speaker 6: will and knowing that it works feels great. Saying that 754 00:42:32,055 --> 00:42:34,815 Speaker 6: I've now written a note to myself to say I've 755 00:42:34,895 --> 00:42:36,815 Speaker 6: got a place that I look after. And when I 756 00:42:36,855 --> 00:42:39,295 Speaker 6: was up there the other day patching the roof actually 757 00:42:39,615 --> 00:42:41,935 Speaker 6: ahead of the storm, just for eester, I looked at 758 00:42:41,975 --> 00:42:43,855 Speaker 6: the spouting and thought, oh, it's been too long since 759 00:42:43,855 --> 00:42:45,775 Speaker 6: I've done that. So that's on my list of things 760 00:42:45,815 --> 00:42:48,095 Speaker 6: to do this week. So I'll see if. 761 00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:49,255 Speaker 4: I feel good by next week. 762 00:42:49,335 --> 00:42:52,895 Speaker 6: Yeah, always always, Hey, thanks for calling all the very best. 763 00:42:52,975 --> 00:42:54,215 Speaker 8: Bye I them okay, bye bye. 764 00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:58,575 Speaker 6: A couple of other actually some really good texts coming 765 00:42:58,615 --> 00:43:01,735 Speaker 6: through with regard to the buildings and so actually just 766 00:43:01,815 --> 00:43:03,735 Speaker 6: another comment just to sort of balance things out. I 767 00:43:03,735 --> 00:43:05,855 Speaker 6: guess around the tailor facer and I'm not trying to 768 00:43:05,855 --> 00:43:09,695 Speaker 6: be critical of whether it's Taylor Facier or Class Facier. 769 00:43:10,055 --> 00:43:13,895 Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident 770 00:43:13,975 --> 00:43:17,015 Speaker 1: Builder with Peter Wolfcat call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten 771 00:43:17,095 --> 00:43:19,895 Speaker 1: eighty Youth Talk ZB, your. 772 00:43:19,855 --> 00:43:22,695 Speaker 6: New TALKSZB, welcome back to the show. Eight hundred eighty 773 00:43:22,855 --> 00:43:25,015 Speaker 6: ten eighty Is that number to call if you've got 774 00:43:25,015 --> 00:43:33,335 Speaker 6: a question of a building nature, whether that's materials, processes, legislation, contractors, 775 00:43:34,535 --> 00:43:37,055 Speaker 6: legislation in terms of what you can do yourself and 776 00:43:37,095 --> 00:43:39,855 Speaker 6: what you can't, we can talk about all of these 777 00:43:39,895 --> 00:43:42,495 Speaker 6: sorts of things if you've got projects on and again 778 00:43:42,535 --> 00:43:45,975 Speaker 6: I love that call, just very briefly from Don talking 779 00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:49,575 Speaker 6: about a wood turning competition, and part of me was 780 00:43:49,735 --> 00:43:52,215 Speaker 6: listening to that thinking are there enough people doing wood 781 00:43:52,215 --> 00:43:54,615 Speaker 6: turning to make, you know, to get a team together 782 00:43:54,655 --> 00:43:58,615 Speaker 6: effectively for a competition, But I actually think it's it's 783 00:43:58,695 --> 00:44:01,895 Speaker 6: surprisingly popular, and the number of people that have probably 784 00:44:01,895 --> 00:44:05,215 Speaker 6: got a lathe in the shed or you know, under 785 00:44:05,255 --> 00:44:06,975 Speaker 6: the house in the basement and that sort of thing 786 00:44:07,015 --> 00:44:10,895 Speaker 6: and doing the wood turning probably quite large numbers. And 787 00:44:10,935 --> 00:44:13,575 Speaker 6: the idea of a fifteen minute competition to turn a 788 00:44:13,615 --> 00:44:16,375 Speaker 6: bowl all using the same size piece of timber, the 789 00:44:16,415 --> 00:44:21,095 Speaker 6: same type of timber and similar lathes would actually be 790 00:44:21,695 --> 00:44:24,095 Speaker 6: quite good to watch. I have to say it's very 791 00:44:24,135 --> 00:44:28,535 Speaker 6: tempting anyway. The man mone We Two wood Workers Guild 792 00:44:29,015 --> 00:44:31,375 Speaker 6: will be holding that competition on the eighteenth of May. 793 00:44:31,775 --> 00:44:35,775 Speaker 6: I have to say I'm sorely tempted not to participate, 794 00:44:35,855 --> 00:44:37,775 Speaker 6: and like I said, I haven't used Alaye since nineteen 795 00:44:37,775 --> 00:44:41,695 Speaker 6: seventy eight, but to watch it would be great fun. Oh, 796 00:44:41,735 --> 00:44:43,775 Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's talk all things 797 00:44:43,855 --> 00:44:49,255 Speaker 6: building and construction. I mentioned changes. I guess to legislation 798 00:44:50,175 --> 00:44:52,935 Speaker 6: we can talk about that, and also from time to time. 799 00:44:53,015 --> 00:44:55,815 Speaker 6: And I suppose as the weather turns from summer to winter, 800 00:44:56,255 --> 00:44:58,575 Speaker 6: we start looking a little bit more critically at how 801 00:44:58,655 --> 00:45:05,455 Speaker 6: well our roofs and our stormwater deals with collecting and 802 00:45:06,095 --> 00:45:10,655 Speaker 6: die erecting the rainfall that lands on our roofs to 803 00:45:11,455 --> 00:45:14,375 Speaker 6: the stormwater system, and so a lot of calls over 804 00:45:14,375 --> 00:45:19,495 Speaker 6: the last little while around. I guess it was a 805 00:45:19,535 --> 00:45:23,495 Speaker 6: system from the nineteen nineties. I guess that seemed it 806 00:45:23,615 --> 00:45:27,415 Speaker 6: was very popular at the time, particularly in developments where 807 00:45:27,895 --> 00:45:31,575 Speaker 6: you had effectively a facire on the outside and then 808 00:45:31,655 --> 00:45:35,375 Speaker 6: you had concealed spouting behind it. So typically when you 809 00:45:35,455 --> 00:45:37,135 Speaker 6: look at a New Zealand house, you've got a bit 810 00:45:37,175 --> 00:45:39,255 Speaker 6: of fashion board and then we clip on some spouting 811 00:45:39,295 --> 00:45:43,655 Speaker 6: on the outside of that. And so many people have 812 00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:47,055 Speaker 6: had troubles with it, whether the capacity is not right, 813 00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:51,975 Speaker 6: the number of down pipes is not sufficient anymore, and 814 00:45:52,015 --> 00:45:53,895 Speaker 6: so on and so forth, and what the systems are. 815 00:45:53,895 --> 00:45:55,655 Speaker 6: A couple of people of text and said, hey, look 816 00:45:55,975 --> 00:45:58,095 Speaker 6: I've got it that I've kind of solved the problem 817 00:45:58,695 --> 00:46:03,095 Speaker 6: or alleviated the problem installing overflows and then changed the 818 00:46:03,095 --> 00:46:06,615 Speaker 6: square down pipes into eighty mili round down pipes extra 819 00:46:06,695 --> 00:46:09,175 Speaker 6: downpipe where it was easy to connect to the existing 820 00:46:09,255 --> 00:46:13,815 Speaker 6: stormwater drainage. This released the pressure on the system. Problem solved, 821 00:46:14,055 --> 00:46:17,775 Speaker 6: says Bushy. And he said he followed up with them 822 00:46:18,295 --> 00:46:21,855 Speaker 6: to install an extra downpipe close to the valleys, as 823 00:46:21,895 --> 00:46:24,615 Speaker 6: that's where the highest volume of water comes down. Which 824 00:46:24,695 --> 00:46:26,255 Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense, isn't it, Because what you're 825 00:46:26,255 --> 00:46:28,335 Speaker 6: talking about with the valley is where two pictures of 826 00:46:28,375 --> 00:46:32,855 Speaker 6: the roof combine their stormwater collection into a valley and 827 00:46:32,895 --> 00:46:35,415 Speaker 6: then shoot that down towards the spouting. So that's where 828 00:46:35,415 --> 00:46:37,855 Speaker 6: you're going to have a lot a concentrated amount of 829 00:46:37,855 --> 00:46:40,655 Speaker 6: water coming down. So if you install a downpipe near 830 00:46:40,695 --> 00:46:43,495 Speaker 6: to that, if you can the only kind of And 831 00:46:43,535 --> 00:46:45,815 Speaker 6: I was looking at a roof the other day, which 832 00:46:46,055 --> 00:46:50,015 Speaker 6: you know, to nineteen sixties building, and they had one 833 00:46:50,055 --> 00:46:51,735 Speaker 6: down pipe on one side of the house and one 834 00:46:51,775 --> 00:46:54,135 Speaker 6: down pipe on the other. And we're talking a building 835 00:46:54,295 --> 00:46:57,015 Speaker 6: of maybe a roof space of sort of one hundred 836 00:46:57,055 --> 00:47:02,135 Speaker 6: and fifty odd square meters with two down pipes and 837 00:47:02,255 --> 00:47:06,535 Speaker 6: a long way to run, you know, and that's not 838 00:47:06,735 --> 00:47:08,735 Speaker 6: going to be great. But then the challenge is, Okay, 839 00:47:08,775 --> 00:47:10,975 Speaker 6: if I wanted to add an extra downpipe, I've got 840 00:47:10,975 --> 00:47:13,535 Speaker 6: to connect that to the storm water, which might mean 841 00:47:14,295 --> 00:47:18,095 Speaker 6: having to drill through the basement and sling a new 842 00:47:18,135 --> 00:47:20,695 Speaker 6: down pipe underneath and collect up. And then I've still 843 00:47:20,735 --> 00:47:23,815 Speaker 6: only got one connection point. The idea of digging up 844 00:47:23,855 --> 00:47:26,815 Speaker 6: the storm water in the ground and running a whole 845 00:47:26,855 --> 00:47:29,735 Speaker 6: new pipe. Suddenly it becomes a much bigger job. So 846 00:47:30,215 --> 00:47:32,775 Speaker 6: there can be some challenges. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 847 00:47:32,855 --> 00:47:38,975 Speaker 6: Let's get into it, Tony. Good morning, Hello Tony. 848 00:47:39,895 --> 00:47:43,135 Speaker 17: Oh yes, sorry, how are you breakfast? 849 00:47:44,575 --> 00:47:45,255 Speaker 6: Fair enough to? 850 00:47:46,775 --> 00:47:50,175 Speaker 17: Yeah? Look, I've got one hundred year old house and 851 00:47:50,215 --> 00:47:54,335 Speaker 17: at the back of the property is a garage right 852 00:47:54,415 --> 00:47:57,975 Speaker 17: on the boundary. It's sort of been converted into a 853 00:47:58,215 --> 00:48:04,215 Speaker 17: rumpus room sleep out sort of story. Yes, it's plaid 854 00:48:04,655 --> 00:48:08,055 Speaker 17: in five the light and because. 855 00:48:08,575 --> 00:48:12,575 Speaker 6: Boundary, you sure it's fiber light not an asbestos type material. 856 00:48:14,415 --> 00:48:19,695 Speaker 17: Well, either way, I know what you mean, okay. And 857 00:48:21,135 --> 00:48:23,375 Speaker 17: because it's on the boundary. We don't really see it, 858 00:48:23,655 --> 00:48:26,175 Speaker 17: but I had a look the other day and some 859 00:48:26,215 --> 00:48:29,255 Speaker 17: of the sheets are cracked and broken and things like that. 860 00:48:29,775 --> 00:48:35,495 Speaker 17: It has about fifteen mills of jib board on the 861 00:48:35,535 --> 00:48:38,215 Speaker 17: studs and then the i'll call it fiber light there 862 00:48:38,255 --> 00:48:41,455 Speaker 17: has been stuck onto that, like nailed through into the 863 00:48:41,495 --> 00:48:42,095 Speaker 17: stud work. 864 00:48:42,655 --> 00:48:45,015 Speaker 6: So there's plaster board on the outside of the framing 865 00:48:45,095 --> 00:48:47,455 Speaker 6: and then the sheathing over the top of that. 866 00:48:48,615 --> 00:48:53,095 Speaker 17: Yes, I presume because it's on it's on the boundary 867 00:48:53,335 --> 00:48:55,455 Speaker 17: that it's probably fire rated. 868 00:48:55,775 --> 00:48:56,055 Speaker 6: Yep. 869 00:48:56,375 --> 00:49:04,815 Speaker 17: Yeah, Okay, So I don't want to reclad. Can I 870 00:49:04,855 --> 00:49:09,175 Speaker 17: Can I get new fiber light and stick it on 871 00:49:09,295 --> 00:49:13,855 Speaker 17: top of the existing stuff that's there? And if I 872 00:49:14,015 --> 00:49:17,615 Speaker 17: do that, what what do I need to glue it 873 00:49:17,655 --> 00:49:24,215 Speaker 17: with any. 874 00:49:22,975 --> 00:49:26,015 Speaker 6: And I presume this is just to make the building 875 00:49:26,055 --> 00:49:28,975 Speaker 6: more durable. This isn't to turn it into a habitable 876 00:49:29,015 --> 00:49:30,135 Speaker 6: space or anything like that. 877 00:49:30,175 --> 00:49:30,575 Speaker 4: It's going to. 878 00:49:33,495 --> 00:49:36,295 Speaker 17: I'm just concerned because the sheets are cracked and all 879 00:49:37,415 --> 00:49:41,055 Speaker 17: somebody's gone to before and tried to repair it and 880 00:49:41,735 --> 00:49:45,175 Speaker 17: they've just sort of squirted group everywhere. 881 00:49:47,175 --> 00:49:52,415 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I suppose I would. My caution would 882 00:49:52,415 --> 00:49:54,855 Speaker 6: be around, do you know what you're dealing with in 883 00:49:54,935 --> 00:49:57,775 Speaker 6: terms of the cladding. This is just from a safety 884 00:49:57,815 --> 00:50:02,935 Speaker 6: point of view, so I think to be sure that 885 00:50:02,975 --> 00:50:07,735 Speaker 6: you're not inadvertently going to cause us exposure to asbestos, 886 00:50:07,775 --> 00:50:11,415 Speaker 6: I would take a small sample off, put it into 887 00:50:11,415 --> 00:50:13,415 Speaker 6: a plastic bags a plot bag, take it down to 888 00:50:13,415 --> 00:50:16,855 Speaker 6: a laboratory and get it tested in terms of whether 889 00:50:16,935 --> 00:50:20,215 Speaker 6: or not it's acm SO an asbestos containing material. Given 890 00:50:20,295 --> 00:50:23,295 Speaker 6: the vintage of it, it's likely to have asbestos in it. 891 00:50:23,695 --> 00:50:28,375 Speaker 6: And the only reason I'm cautious around that is that inevitably, 892 00:50:28,415 --> 00:50:31,615 Speaker 6: if you're going to fix an other type of sheathing 893 00:50:31,735 --> 00:50:34,295 Speaker 6: over the top of it, like another fiber cement sheet 894 00:50:34,335 --> 00:50:37,815 Speaker 6: for example, you're going to have to penetrate that existing one, 895 00:50:38,015 --> 00:50:41,415 Speaker 6: so drill through, for example, and when you drill through, 896 00:50:41,535 --> 00:50:46,615 Speaker 6: you'll create dust. That dust is fibers that could become airborne, right, 897 00:50:47,415 --> 00:50:49,575 Speaker 6: So either you're going to breathe it in or it's 898 00:50:49,575 --> 00:50:51,695 Speaker 6: going to fall on the ground and potentially someone else 899 00:50:51,735 --> 00:50:53,815 Speaker 6: will be in contact with it. So I think it's 900 00:50:53,855 --> 00:50:56,935 Speaker 6: really important to do the testing to determine what it 901 00:50:56,975 --> 00:51:00,095 Speaker 6: is that you're dealing with. If it is asbestos, then 902 00:51:00,215 --> 00:51:01,935 Speaker 6: you can carry on and do the work, but you 903 00:51:02,015 --> 00:51:05,655 Speaker 6: need to then control the risk of exposure to the asbestos. 904 00:51:07,015 --> 00:51:09,895 Speaker 6: So let's say let's say you had it tested and 905 00:51:09,935 --> 00:51:12,815 Speaker 6: it doesn't have any asbestos in it. I would think 906 00:51:12,855 --> 00:51:17,335 Speaker 6: that you'd slightly scuff the surface. Is it painted or 907 00:51:17,455 --> 00:51:21,855 Speaker 6: not painted? It's being painted, it's being painted, okay. So 908 00:51:22,095 --> 00:51:25,255 Speaker 6: the issue is if you put some adhesive onto the paint, 909 00:51:25,575 --> 00:51:27,335 Speaker 6: it'll stick to the paint. But we don't know if 910 00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:31,215 Speaker 6: this paint's going to stay stuck to the she thing, right, 911 00:51:31,295 --> 00:51:35,015 Speaker 6: so you might want to scuff it or even you know, 912 00:51:35,255 --> 00:51:38,055 Speaker 6: just remove the paint coding where you're going to apply 913 00:51:38,135 --> 00:51:41,535 Speaker 6: some adhesive, or you just use fixings, right, So determine 914 00:51:41,535 --> 00:51:44,335 Speaker 6: where the studs are and the nogs are if it's 915 00:51:44,375 --> 00:51:47,935 Speaker 6: got nogs, and then go okay, And I would probably 916 00:51:47,975 --> 00:51:50,015 Speaker 6: set my sheets up in such a way that they 917 00:51:50,055 --> 00:51:53,895 Speaker 6: don't match the existing one, so overlap by half. So 918 00:51:53,935 --> 00:51:56,135 Speaker 6: if you've got the sheets at twelve hundred and the 919 00:51:56,175 --> 00:51:59,495 Speaker 6: studs at six hundred centers, offset them so that your 920 00:51:59,735 --> 00:52:03,215 Speaker 6: new sheet laps over the join and the old one, 921 00:52:03,335 --> 00:52:05,815 Speaker 6: so they're staggered it. You know, you know what I mean? 922 00:52:06,015 --> 00:52:06,855 Speaker 11: Yeah, I understand. 923 00:52:08,175 --> 00:52:11,695 Speaker 6: So then I would probably just clean the surface down 924 00:52:12,175 --> 00:52:14,935 Speaker 6: if if you think it will adhere, you could put 925 00:52:14,975 --> 00:52:17,895 Speaker 6: some dobs of sealant onto it. Otherwise I'd get the 926 00:52:17,935 --> 00:52:22,575 Speaker 6: new sheets, set them up, offset, fix them through with 927 00:52:22,775 --> 00:52:25,855 Speaker 6: maybe a stain you know, just go for a stainless steel, 928 00:52:25,895 --> 00:52:29,015 Speaker 6: even a panhead, right, don't try and hide their fixings 929 00:52:29,255 --> 00:52:31,575 Speaker 6: so you're not drilling through and trying to countersink it. 930 00:52:32,015 --> 00:52:34,175 Speaker 6: And then just fix your new sheets over the top 931 00:52:34,215 --> 00:52:36,935 Speaker 6: of the old ones, and just a silicon bead in 932 00:52:36,975 --> 00:52:39,375 Speaker 6: the joint because you know it's a double layer of 933 00:52:39,455 --> 00:52:44,255 Speaker 6: waterproofing it's unlikely to leak. And then fix a new 934 00:52:44,255 --> 00:52:48,015 Speaker 6: sheet over the top silicon the joints, paint it and 935 00:52:48,335 --> 00:52:50,415 Speaker 6: job done. 936 00:52:50,975 --> 00:52:54,215 Speaker 17: And what's what adhesive would you use if you're going 937 00:52:54,255 --> 00:52:54,535 Speaker 17: to go. 938 00:52:55,975 --> 00:52:58,535 Speaker 6: I mean, something as simple as max bond would probably work. 939 00:52:58,615 --> 00:53:02,815 Speaker 6: I know I've pretty much started using them. There's a 940 00:53:02,815 --> 00:53:07,415 Speaker 6: Pseudle product called fix All which I find really really good, 941 00:53:08,095 --> 00:53:12,975 Speaker 6: so pseud Ale or Gorilla fix all. So fix All 942 00:53:13,095 --> 00:53:13,655 Speaker 6: is really good. 943 00:53:15,535 --> 00:53:16,895 Speaker 9: Thank you very much, good luck. 944 00:53:16,775 --> 00:53:18,935 Speaker 6: Take care of it. But you know, just just so 945 00:53:19,015 --> 00:53:22,615 Speaker 6: I can sleep at night, make sure you do the testing, eh, yes, please, 946 00:53:22,695 --> 00:53:25,695 Speaker 6: all right, all of this, thanks take care, sir, oh 947 00:53:25,735 --> 00:53:28,895 Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty eighty the number to call. It's let 948 00:53:28,895 --> 00:53:32,975 Speaker 6: me see seventeen minutes after seven Catherine, Good morning, Yes, 949 00:53:32,975 --> 00:53:33,895 Speaker 6: good morning Pete. 950 00:53:35,255 --> 00:53:39,735 Speaker 18: Hello, my neighbor and I were wandering. We've had a 951 00:53:39,935 --> 00:53:44,815 Speaker 18: section sold just across the road from us, or down 952 00:53:44,855 --> 00:53:47,535 Speaker 18: the road further. There's been those you know, little shoe 953 00:53:47,575 --> 00:53:55,895 Speaker 18: boxes built two stories high. And then somebody told us that, oh, 954 00:53:55,975 --> 00:53:59,815 Speaker 18: how I say this quickly? Well, anyway, can can three 955 00:53:59,935 --> 00:54:01,575 Speaker 18: storied buildings be built? 956 00:54:01,895 --> 00:54:02,295 Speaker 6: Still? 957 00:54:03,215 --> 00:54:06,095 Speaker 8: Yes? Oh, but. 958 00:54:07,935 --> 00:54:12,815 Speaker 6: It's always slightly more complex than that. So funny. I 959 00:54:12,855 --> 00:54:17,935 Speaker 6: was reading an article yesterday. So some of this comes 960 00:54:17,935 --> 00:54:24,615 Speaker 6: out from the planning regulations around medium density, right, And 961 00:54:24,735 --> 00:54:28,375 Speaker 6: so if you cast your mind back a little while ago, 962 00:54:29,055 --> 00:54:31,855 Speaker 6: when Labor was in power, they actually did like a 963 00:54:31,975 --> 00:54:37,055 Speaker 6: bipad partisan agreement with National to say, what we want 964 00:54:37,095 --> 00:54:41,855 Speaker 6: to do is introduce legislation that will allow three story 965 00:54:41,895 --> 00:54:46,815 Speaker 6: buildings to be built on typical residential sites without necessarily 966 00:54:46,855 --> 00:54:51,335 Speaker 6: requiring a resource consent, which, to be fair, I thought 967 00:54:51,415 --> 00:54:56,335 Speaker 6: was madness and would lead to some terrible outcomes. And 968 00:54:56,415 --> 00:54:59,775 Speaker 6: I was surprised that it got bipartisan support. Now that 969 00:55:00,015 --> 00:55:03,655 Speaker 6: now has been rescinded, so that I think at the 970 00:55:03,655 --> 00:55:07,215 Speaker 6: moment there's still requirement for a resource consent, but in 971 00:55:07,295 --> 00:55:11,575 Speaker 6: most of our urban areas there is a move to intensification, right, 972 00:55:11,655 --> 00:55:17,295 Speaker 6: So we want to have more people living closer to transport, 973 00:55:17,375 --> 00:55:19,815 Speaker 6: hubs and facilities and so on, and one way of 974 00:55:19,855 --> 00:55:24,575 Speaker 6: doing that is to take three bedroom cottage off and 975 00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:32,895 Speaker 6: put on multi units. And in some cases it was 976 00:55:32,975 --> 00:55:35,575 Speaker 6: like you could do that pretty much anywhere unless it 977 00:55:35,615 --> 00:55:40,775 Speaker 6: was like a special heritage zone. To be fair, it 978 00:55:40,855 --> 00:55:43,295 Speaker 6: feels like that legislation is in a little bit of 979 00:55:43,295 --> 00:55:47,375 Speaker 6: a state of flux, but more and more parts of 980 00:55:47,575 --> 00:55:52,495 Speaker 6: large urban environments can have that. This for you, if 981 00:55:52,495 --> 00:55:55,495 Speaker 6: you go to the council website, your local council website, 982 00:55:55,535 --> 00:55:59,735 Speaker 6: you should be able to bring up planning legislation. I 983 00:55:59,775 --> 00:56:02,495 Speaker 6: suspect that if you've found that further down the street 984 00:56:03,015 --> 00:56:05,215 Speaker 6: they've been able to do it, then chances are they 985 00:56:05,255 --> 00:56:08,135 Speaker 6: might be able to do it next to you. But 986 00:56:08,455 --> 00:56:11,135 Speaker 6: there are when you go onto the council websites, this 987 00:56:11,135 --> 00:56:13,735 Speaker 6: would be true right across the country. You can see 988 00:56:13,775 --> 00:56:17,655 Speaker 6: what the urban zones are, how they're divided up, and 989 00:56:17,735 --> 00:56:21,735 Speaker 6: so there's there's some urban zones that are quite specifically 990 00:56:22,015 --> 00:56:26,455 Speaker 6: one dwelling per site, right and that can't change. But 991 00:56:26,535 --> 00:56:32,055 Speaker 6: there are other urban zones which are mixed residential or 992 00:56:32,775 --> 00:56:37,495 Speaker 6: designed for intensification. And then in those areas, yes, people 993 00:56:37,575 --> 00:56:41,335 Speaker 6: can do multi story buildings. Three story buildings are increasingly 994 00:56:41,415 --> 00:56:45,495 Speaker 6: common and you might end up with three or four 995 00:56:46,055 --> 00:56:52,455 Speaker 6: right next to your house. Yes, it's possible. God yeah, 996 00:56:52,575 --> 00:56:54,855 Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, obviously I'm a bit more 997 00:56:54,855 --> 00:56:56,655 Speaker 6: familiar with Auckland because that's where I live and I 998 00:56:56,735 --> 00:57:00,375 Speaker 6: drive around and there are lots of these developments happening. 999 00:57:02,415 --> 00:57:07,415 Speaker 18: Can apply the individual house go through be built through stories. 1000 00:57:07,055 --> 00:57:14,295 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, if the planning legislation allows for it. You know, 1001 00:57:14,935 --> 00:57:18,815 Speaker 6: you could get a planner to consult for you. But 1002 00:57:19,015 --> 00:57:21,615 Speaker 6: I think it's actually pretty straightforward. If you go to 1003 00:57:21,735 --> 00:57:25,775 Speaker 6: the council websites, search through the planning legislation into your address, 1004 00:57:26,215 --> 00:57:30,335 Speaker 6: into the GIS, which is an online tool, and that 1005 00:57:30,375 --> 00:57:33,415 Speaker 6: will show you all sorts of things about where services 1006 00:57:33,455 --> 00:57:38,495 Speaker 6: are located, what natural hazards might be. I know, for 1007 00:57:38,535 --> 00:57:41,615 Speaker 6: Auckland Council, for example, they've updated or they've created a 1008 00:57:41,655 --> 00:57:44,015 Speaker 6: new platform that allows you to see whether you're in 1009 00:57:44,055 --> 00:57:47,735 Speaker 6: a flood zone or what the impact of flooding has 1010 00:57:47,815 --> 00:57:52,215 Speaker 6: been that's been fascinating. I find it fascinating to look 1011 00:57:52,255 --> 00:57:55,535 Speaker 6: at that, and it's updated data, so it's based on 1012 00:57:55,935 --> 00:57:59,495 Speaker 6: you know, recent events that have indicated that perhaps zones 1013 00:57:59,495 --> 00:58:02,215 Speaker 6: that are likely to be impacted by flooding are much 1014 00:58:02,255 --> 00:58:04,975 Speaker 6: more extensive than we might have expected in the past. 1015 00:58:05,815 --> 00:58:07,735 Speaker 6: So that'll be in there, and that's the sort of 1016 00:58:07,735 --> 00:58:11,255 Speaker 6: thing that might prevent development, you know, if counsel might say, well, 1017 00:58:11,295 --> 00:58:15,255 Speaker 6: actually that area there is in fact now flood prone. 1018 00:58:15,615 --> 00:58:18,255 Speaker 6: So yes, you could build, but your floor level has 1019 00:58:18,295 --> 00:58:21,135 Speaker 6: to be higher, in which case the building then might 1020 00:58:21,175 --> 00:58:24,575 Speaker 6: exceed heightened relation to boundary, and therefore you could do 1021 00:58:24,615 --> 00:58:29,095 Speaker 6: two stories but not three stories. But there is a 1022 00:58:29,135 --> 00:58:31,735 Speaker 6: lot of detail available online if you want to take 1023 00:58:31,775 --> 00:58:34,455 Speaker 6: the time to sort of go through it, or like 1024 00:58:34,495 --> 00:58:37,495 Speaker 6: I say, you could ring a planner and just go, hey, 1025 00:58:37,615 --> 00:58:40,815 Speaker 6: what's likely to happen? I guess. The other thing that 1026 00:58:40,975 --> 00:58:44,255 Speaker 6: sometimes comes as a shock to home owners or property 1027 00:58:44,295 --> 00:58:48,175 Speaker 6: owners is that those sorts of buildings can be built 1028 00:58:48,255 --> 00:58:50,615 Speaker 6: and you actually don't get a say in it. So 1029 00:58:51,055 --> 00:58:55,535 Speaker 6: some resource consents are not notifiable or non notifiable, in 1030 00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:59,575 Speaker 6: which case developer property developer can go to council make 1031 00:58:59,615 --> 00:59:03,575 Speaker 6: an application with a resource consent and they can grant 1032 00:59:03,655 --> 00:59:09,335 Speaker 6: that without having to consult with neighbors, in which case 1033 00:59:09,335 --> 00:59:11,335 Speaker 6: you don't actually have a lot of ground for objection. 1034 00:59:11,815 --> 00:59:17,015 Speaker 6: Every now and then, some residential developments require the agreement 1035 00:59:17,215 --> 00:59:20,735 Speaker 6: of a neighbor, so you know, they might say, well, look, 1036 00:59:20,735 --> 00:59:24,295 Speaker 6: actually it's it's slightly too high in that corner. Could 1037 00:59:24,335 --> 00:59:26,335 Speaker 6: you sign off on it? And then you could sign 1038 00:59:26,375 --> 00:59:30,295 Speaker 6: off on it, but you could also decline it, and 1039 00:59:30,335 --> 00:59:33,895 Speaker 6: then they'd have to go through a more extensive process 1040 00:59:33,895 --> 00:59:39,495 Speaker 6: to try and get permission for it. So not necessarily 1041 00:59:39,495 --> 00:59:42,535 Speaker 6: a simple answer. But the you know, planning legislation is 1042 00:59:43,015 --> 00:59:46,335 Speaker 6: quite complex and it deals with so many kind of 1043 00:59:46,375 --> 00:59:54,015 Speaker 6: moving parts and literally you know, again, if you take 1044 00:59:54,095 --> 00:59:55,295 Speaker 6: the time and go and have a look on the 1045 00:59:55,415 --> 00:59:57,975 Speaker 6: on the planning maps, you might find that, you know, 1046 00:59:58,815 --> 01:00:03,015 Speaker 6: houses on one side of the street are zoned you 1047 01:00:03,015 --> 01:00:06,895 Speaker 6: know for intensification or medium density, and how on the 1048 01:00:06,935 --> 01:00:09,895 Speaker 6: other side of the street will be restricted to single 1049 01:00:09,975 --> 01:00:15,535 Speaker 6: dwellings per site, or one end of a street will 1050 01:00:15,535 --> 01:00:19,055 Speaker 6: be zoned for intensification and the other end of the 1051 01:00:19,055 --> 01:00:19,775 Speaker 6: street won't be. 1052 01:00:21,495 --> 01:00:24,215 Speaker 7: Oh thank you for that information. I will pop on 1053 01:00:24,335 --> 01:00:25,415 Speaker 7: line and have. 1054 01:00:25,415 --> 01:00:25,895 Speaker 3: A look. 1055 01:00:27,215 --> 01:00:32,295 Speaker 6: Quite the gis in particular and I use the Augland 1056 01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:35,855 Speaker 6: Council one, you know, seemingly fairly regularly, but I'm sure 1057 01:00:35,855 --> 01:00:40,215 Speaker 6: most councils around the country will have that information available online. 1058 01:00:40,295 --> 01:00:42,535 Speaker 7: Okay on an Aorkland anyway. 1059 01:00:42,415 --> 01:00:45,455 Speaker 6: Okay, just go to the Auckland Council website and navigate 1060 01:00:45,455 --> 01:00:46,135 Speaker 6: your away from there. 1061 01:00:46,935 --> 01:00:49,335 Speaker 13: Oh, thank you so much, Pete, Thank you so much. 1062 01:00:49,375 --> 01:00:51,695 Speaker 6: A little nice to talk to you. Thank you, Catherine. 1063 01:00:52,495 --> 01:00:55,135 Speaker 6: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number 1064 01:00:55,175 --> 01:00:59,295 Speaker 6: to call? Had a couple of texts. You know, we 1065 01:00:59,335 --> 01:01:02,335 Speaker 6: talked about roofing, but some pieces someone has texed through 1066 01:01:02,815 --> 01:01:05,895 Speaker 6: had no idea that the Roofing Association of New Zealand existed. 1067 01:01:07,215 --> 01:01:10,095 Speaker 6: I've mentioned them a number of times. I've been involved 1068 01:01:10,095 --> 01:01:12,335 Speaker 6: with a couple of their events. I got to know 1069 01:01:12,415 --> 01:01:17,095 Speaker 6: some of the people involved with the Roofing Association over 1070 01:01:17,135 --> 01:01:20,815 Speaker 6: the years. It's a this is where I really do 1071 01:01:20,895 --> 01:01:26,855 Speaker 6: support these sorts of professional bodies, let's say, or trade 1072 01:01:27,215 --> 01:01:33,255 Speaker 6: organization bodies, whether it's Master Plumbers, the Roofing Association, New Zealand, 1073 01:01:33,295 --> 01:01:36,495 Speaker 6: Institute of Building Surveys, all of these sorts of organizations 1074 01:01:36,535 --> 01:01:39,615 Speaker 6: that are there where people can apply for membership. And 1075 01:01:39,695 --> 01:01:42,175 Speaker 6: I think particularly in terms of roofing. You know that 1076 01:01:42,615 --> 01:01:46,535 Speaker 6: I think there's some certainty or surety for consumers. You 1077 01:01:46,615 --> 01:01:49,895 Speaker 6: and I that if we're dealing with a contractor who 1078 01:01:50,335 --> 01:01:54,535 Speaker 6: has sought and had approval to be a member of 1079 01:01:54,815 --> 01:01:58,095 Speaker 6: an organization like this, like the Roofing Association of New Zealand, 1080 01:01:58,455 --> 01:02:02,015 Speaker 6: that you know, outside of sort of government or local 1081 01:02:02,055 --> 01:02:04,975 Speaker 6: government or LBP control, you've got a body that you 1082 01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:07,175 Speaker 6: can go to if you've got an issue with that 1083 01:02:07,255 --> 01:02:12,015 Speaker 6: particular contractor. So my advice has always been, if you're 1084 01:02:12,015 --> 01:02:16,295 Speaker 6: getting roofing work done of whatever description, just check and 1085 01:02:16,335 --> 01:02:18,735 Speaker 6: see whether the person is a member of the Roofing 1086 01:02:18,775 --> 01:02:21,415 Speaker 6: Association of New Zealand. That would be my advice. I 1087 01:02:21,535 --> 01:02:23,495 Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call 1088 01:02:23,535 --> 01:02:27,975 Speaker 6: twenty coming up, twenty six minutes away, twenty six after seven. 1089 01:02:28,415 --> 01:02:30,615 Speaker 6: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call if 1090 01:02:30,615 --> 01:02:33,295 Speaker 6: you've got a building question, whether it's the old garage 1091 01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:38,175 Speaker 6: reclad or you're talking about planning legislation, we're talking wood turning, 1092 01:02:38,175 --> 01:02:41,735 Speaker 6: we're talking landscaping, we're talking the old concealed spouting and 1093 01:02:41,775 --> 01:02:44,975 Speaker 6: facia and recent storms and the impact that they've had. 1094 01:02:44,975 --> 01:02:47,855 Speaker 6: And I've tuned in with interest to the news story 1095 01:02:47,895 --> 01:02:51,975 Speaker 6: around seven o'clock this morning, talking about people and the 1096 01:02:52,735 --> 01:02:56,615 Speaker 6: sort of sense of unrest or disquiet that we have 1097 01:02:56,735 --> 01:02:59,895 Speaker 6: now with weather events, wondering are our houses okay? And 1098 01:02:59,935 --> 01:03:03,335 Speaker 6: I mean, look, there's significant slips and flooding in the 1099 01:03:03,375 --> 01:03:07,215 Speaker 6: South Island round Selwyn. I have to say I looked 1100 01:03:07,215 --> 01:03:09,855 Speaker 6: at there was a photograph that appeared online of a 1101 01:03:10,215 --> 01:03:13,175 Speaker 6: There's been a lot of criticism around the extent of 1102 01:03:13,215 --> 01:03:16,655 Speaker 6: the development in Selwyn and its impact potentially on flooding. 1103 01:03:16,695 --> 01:03:20,815 Speaker 6: Selwyn's one of the fastest growing regions in the country. 1104 01:03:21,175 --> 01:03:23,575 Speaker 6: You can measure that through building consents and so on. 1105 01:03:24,335 --> 01:03:27,055 Speaker 6: And the photograph that I saw was a street with 1106 01:03:27,135 --> 01:03:30,975 Speaker 6: a whole lot of houses under construction and the portloo 1107 01:03:31,015 --> 01:03:36,375 Speaker 6: basically floating down in the flooding. So you'd go, okay, 1108 01:03:36,655 --> 01:03:40,215 Speaker 6: they've got problems with flooding right now. What happens when 1109 01:03:40,215 --> 01:03:43,735 Speaker 6: the subdivision's finished? Fair question? I think twenty seven minutes 1110 01:03:43,775 --> 01:03:46,695 Speaker 6: after seven your news talk set b people of Camp 1111 01:03:46,735 --> 01:03:48,615 Speaker 6: with you this morning. The lines are open. The number 1112 01:03:48,615 --> 01:03:51,175 Speaker 6: to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty met. 1113 01:03:51,135 --> 01:03:55,135 Speaker 1: Twice God was but maybe called Pete first, Peter Wolfcamp. 1114 01:03:55,295 --> 01:03:57,335 Speaker 4: The resident Builder News Talk sa'd be. 1115 01:04:00,735 --> 01:04:03,335 Speaker 6: Your news talk se be open line on all things 1116 01:04:03,335 --> 01:04:10,535 Speaker 6: building and construction. Pete, I think you baffled, Catherine, I 1117 01:04:10,575 --> 01:04:13,735 Speaker 6: hope not. Most people don't understand there's a difference between 1118 01:04:13,775 --> 01:04:21,375 Speaker 6: a resource consent and a building consent. That's from bill. Yeah. 1119 01:04:21,495 --> 01:04:23,575 Speaker 6: In fact, yes, I had a similar discussion with someone 1120 01:04:23,655 --> 01:04:28,575 Speaker 6: yesterday actually in terms of a resource consent issued for 1121 01:04:28,895 --> 01:04:33,335 Speaker 6: a fairly extensive renovation in a heritage area, and that 1122 01:04:34,295 --> 01:04:38,015 Speaker 6: council were not signing off on the resource consent at 1123 01:04:38,095 --> 01:04:45,215 Speaker 6: the end of the bill because allegedly one of the 1124 01:04:45,255 --> 01:04:48,015 Speaker 6: elements that was included in the resource consent was not 1125 01:04:48,095 --> 01:04:52,975 Speaker 6: done as per the resource consent. So try and do 1126 01:04:53,055 --> 01:04:56,175 Speaker 6: this as simply as I can. So if you're doing 1127 01:04:56,215 --> 01:04:59,375 Speaker 6: a development where you have to get a resource consent 1128 01:04:59,575 --> 01:05:03,015 Speaker 6: before you can get building consent, So typically if it's 1129 01:05:03,255 --> 01:05:06,015 Speaker 6: in a heritage zone for example, or if you're doing 1130 01:05:06,375 --> 01:05:09,415 Speaker 6: intensification or subdivisions that sort of thing, there'll be a 1131 01:05:09,455 --> 01:05:12,335 Speaker 6: resource consent that needs to be issued by the council 1132 01:05:12,495 --> 01:05:14,535 Speaker 6: prior to you being You have to get the resource 1133 01:05:14,535 --> 01:05:16,735 Speaker 6: consent before you get the building consent. You get the 1134 01:05:16,735 --> 01:05:18,695 Speaker 6: building consent, you go ahead. You do the work, you 1135 01:05:18,735 --> 01:05:22,055 Speaker 6: get your final inspection. If you pass the final inspection, 1136 01:05:22,175 --> 01:05:27,135 Speaker 6: you can submit for a CCC, so a code compliance 1137 01:05:27,135 --> 01:05:30,615 Speaker 6: certificate at the end of the project. I don't know 1138 01:05:30,615 --> 01:05:33,935 Speaker 6: whether you can get your code of compliance without having 1139 01:05:33,975 --> 01:05:36,655 Speaker 6: the resource consent signed off. So, for example, with a 1140 01:05:36,695 --> 01:05:39,855 Speaker 6: resource consent, there might be a requirement to ensure that 1141 01:05:39,935 --> 01:05:44,175 Speaker 6: the impermeable and permeable areas are set down. It's a 1142 01:05:44,215 --> 01:05:46,495 Speaker 6: certain amount of site coverage that you're allowed to do. 1143 01:05:47,015 --> 01:05:50,655 Speaker 6: And so when you've finished the development, you go back 1144 01:05:50,695 --> 01:05:56,415 Speaker 6: to council, ask the resource consents Compliance Monitoring officer to 1145 01:05:56,535 --> 01:05:59,975 Speaker 6: come out with the resource consent details and look at 1146 01:05:59,975 --> 01:06:03,055 Speaker 6: the project and go, okay, is the driveway the width 1147 01:06:03,055 --> 01:06:05,175 Speaker 6: that we said that it was permissible in terms of 1148 01:06:05,295 --> 01:06:08,695 Speaker 6: impermeable or if the driveway was going to be permeable, 1149 01:06:09,575 --> 01:06:12,895 Speaker 6: has it been done as permeable as their sufficient planting 1150 01:06:13,175 --> 01:06:16,255 Speaker 6: the fences as? But whatever the regulations around the resource 1151 01:06:16,295 --> 01:06:19,175 Speaker 6: consent are. In this case, it was a heritage issue 1152 01:06:19,215 --> 01:06:23,895 Speaker 6: around chimneys. So then they'll sign off the resource consent. 1153 01:06:23,935 --> 01:06:26,775 Speaker 6: And I'm pretty sure you can't get your coded clients 1154 01:06:27,015 --> 01:06:30,015 Speaker 6: until the resource consent has been signed off. So if 1155 01:06:30,055 --> 01:06:32,215 Speaker 6: there are conditions in the resource consent. You have to 1156 01:06:32,255 --> 01:06:34,775 Speaker 6: prove that you've met them and then the building will 1157 01:06:34,815 --> 01:06:38,975 Speaker 6: be compliant. So yeah, there is there is some power 1158 01:06:39,255 --> 01:06:41,655 Speaker 6: in the resource consent as well. Oh, eight hundred and 1159 01:06:41,695 --> 01:06:45,575 Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number to call Gail hellelou there ah. 1160 01:06:45,495 --> 01:06:48,335 Speaker 19: Hi, I only heard the second part of that call 1161 01:06:48,415 --> 01:06:52,775 Speaker 19: regarding fixing over asbestos cladding. So be question was that 1162 01:06:52,855 --> 01:06:53,735 Speaker 19: for a garage. 1163 01:06:53,975 --> 01:06:56,255 Speaker 6: It was for a garage. It was an older garage. 1164 01:06:56,375 --> 01:06:59,095 Speaker 6: It's used as kind of a sort of a rumpus room, 1165 01:06:59,175 --> 01:07:02,655 Speaker 6: not really habitable space. They're not trying to upgrade it 1166 01:07:02,735 --> 01:07:05,855 Speaker 6: into a habitable space, which would require a building consent. 1167 01:07:06,775 --> 01:07:09,055 Speaker 6: It's just it's starting to get some cracks in it, 1168 01:07:09,255 --> 01:07:13,495 Speaker 6: and what's a solution. Well, one solution is to just 1169 01:07:13,735 --> 01:07:17,375 Speaker 6: sheath right over the top of it. But at the 1170 01:07:17,415 --> 01:07:22,815 Speaker 6: same time, and I've had a couple of texts and yeah, 1171 01:07:23,015 --> 01:07:25,375 Speaker 6: people going off, why don't you take it off and 1172 01:07:25,375 --> 01:07:26,975 Speaker 6: do it properly and all the rest of it. Well, 1173 01:07:27,415 --> 01:07:30,775 Speaker 6: in some cases just putting it over is an acceptable solution. 1174 01:07:31,015 --> 01:07:33,535 Speaker 6: It's an official term. I'm not suggesting this is an 1175 01:07:33,535 --> 01:07:35,655 Speaker 6: official way of doing it, but you know, every now 1176 01:07:35,655 --> 01:07:39,455 Speaker 6: and then we do stuff in building that it might 1177 01:07:39,495 --> 01:07:42,695 Speaker 6: not be compliant or whatever or technically part of the rules, 1178 01:07:42,695 --> 01:07:45,295 Speaker 6: but it works, right, So adding she thing over the 1179 01:07:45,295 --> 01:07:47,935 Speaker 6: top of an old garage is one way of fixing 1180 01:07:47,975 --> 01:07:48,455 Speaker 6: the problem. 1181 01:07:49,255 --> 01:07:49,575 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1182 01:07:49,655 --> 01:07:53,095 Speaker 19: Okay, my daughter's brought up a two story house and 1183 01:07:53,415 --> 01:07:55,215 Speaker 19: the bottom part of it's breaking. The top parts is 1184 01:07:55,375 --> 01:07:59,215 Speaker 19: festos that needs recreating, and I did suggest to her 1185 01:07:59,335 --> 01:08:00,895 Speaker 19: maybe you can fix it over top of it. 1186 01:08:03,015 --> 01:08:06,415 Speaker 6: Yeah, except I think if that sort of thing, I 1187 01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:10,415 Speaker 6: think you'd be you'd be struggling to do that and 1188 01:08:10,535 --> 01:08:13,535 Speaker 6: do it as repairs and maintenance under Schedule one of 1189 01:08:13,535 --> 01:08:19,975 Speaker 6: the Building Act, right, So I would I'd probably get 1190 01:08:20,055 --> 01:08:23,455 Speaker 6: some advice either from building survey or go directly to council. 1191 01:08:23,575 --> 01:08:26,735 Speaker 6: But I don't feel that you would be able to 1192 01:08:26,815 --> 01:08:30,055 Speaker 6: just go, hey, look, it's essentially it's like a flat 1193 01:08:30,095 --> 01:08:35,335 Speaker 6: fiber cement or is it a profiled material plaid shadow 1194 01:08:35,335 --> 01:08:36,575 Speaker 6: clads not asbestos? 1195 01:08:37,575 --> 01:08:38,455 Speaker 11: Oh, isn't it? 1196 01:08:39,415 --> 01:08:39,655 Speaker 9: Maybe? 1197 01:08:40,775 --> 01:08:41,015 Speaker 20: Yeah? 1198 01:08:41,295 --> 01:08:43,775 Speaker 6: I think go and get it tested. And the reason 1199 01:08:43,895 --> 01:08:46,455 Speaker 6: for the reclad is that the cladding is no longer 1200 01:08:46,455 --> 01:08:46,975 Speaker 6: weather tight. 1201 01:08:48,415 --> 01:08:48,815 Speaker 13: Correct. 1202 01:08:48,855 --> 01:08:51,855 Speaker 19: Yeah, the previous ogners have just let it run down 1203 01:08:51,935 --> 01:08:54,295 Speaker 19: so much. You know, people mad how they do that? 1204 01:08:57,895 --> 01:09:04,015 Speaker 6: Look it happens, and it's not terribly uncommon. I think, yeah, okay, 1205 01:09:04,175 --> 01:09:07,055 Speaker 6: and look, if they were going to reclaud I think, 1206 01:09:07,535 --> 01:09:10,535 Speaker 6: I mean there are This is just to throw something 1207 01:09:10,535 --> 01:09:14,295 Speaker 6: else into the mix. There's quite a lot of sort 1208 01:09:14,295 --> 01:09:19,615 Speaker 6: of development going on around. It's driven by re the 1209 01:09:19,655 --> 01:09:22,735 Speaker 6: desire to add more insulation to existing houses. 1210 01:09:22,815 --> 01:09:23,015 Speaker 8: Right. 1211 01:09:23,095 --> 01:09:26,015 Speaker 6: So you know, anything prior to nineteen seventy eight probably 1212 01:09:26,015 --> 01:09:28,855 Speaker 6: doesn't have any insulation in the exterior walls. Some of 1213 01:09:28,895 --> 01:09:32,135 Speaker 6: the insulation would be poor quality, et cetera. So typically 1214 01:09:32,175 --> 01:09:35,015 Speaker 6: we kind of pull off linings and add insulation into 1215 01:09:35,055 --> 01:09:39,215 Speaker 6: the existing cavities in the wall. There are also now 1216 01:09:39,335 --> 01:09:43,495 Speaker 6: some systems being developed where the insulation is added to 1217 01:09:43,535 --> 01:09:45,975 Speaker 6: the exterior of the building. So you leave the old 1218 01:09:46,535 --> 01:09:49,935 Speaker 6: line of the old cladding on, you add battens and 1219 01:09:49,975 --> 01:09:52,615 Speaker 6: create a cavity on the outside. You fill that cavity 1220 01:09:52,615 --> 01:09:57,135 Speaker 6: with insulation, and then you add new sheathing, new pladding 1221 01:09:57,495 --> 01:10:01,175 Speaker 6: to the exterior. One of the systems I've seen is 1222 01:10:01,175 --> 01:10:06,055 Speaker 6: one called Parker wrap. So yeah, Parker as in wearing 1223 01:10:06,055 --> 01:10:10,575 Speaker 6: a part so pa ka Parker Wrap. There might be 1224 01:10:10,615 --> 01:10:12,975 Speaker 6: some other systems out there as well, but this is 1225 01:10:13,415 --> 01:10:16,215 Speaker 6: a new system where you go actually let's leave what 1226 01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:19,175 Speaker 6: we've got intact, right, because it's quite disruptive pulling off 1227 01:10:19,215 --> 01:10:21,335 Speaker 6: all linings and all the rest of it. We'll leave 1228 01:10:21,335 --> 01:10:24,495 Speaker 6: it intact, and maybe we'll upgrade the joinery, but we'll 1229 01:10:24,495 --> 01:10:29,095 Speaker 6: add new insulation on the exterior and new exterior cladding. 1230 01:10:29,695 --> 01:10:33,095 Speaker 6: And so that type of system might also be a 1231 01:10:33,135 --> 01:10:34,895 Speaker 6: solution for your daughter. 1232 01:10:35,575 --> 01:10:38,175 Speaker 19: Product look into that, because I did think it because 1233 01:10:38,215 --> 01:10:41,015 Speaker 19: I have heard you talking about that before, and she 1234 01:10:41,135 --> 01:10:43,655 Speaker 19: was wondering about having to replace windows then as well. 1235 01:10:43,655 --> 01:10:47,775 Speaker 6: But you don't necessarily have to. I mean, obviously you 1236 01:10:47,815 --> 01:10:50,295 Speaker 6: need to do some detailing around the flashings, how you 1237 01:10:50,335 --> 01:10:54,335 Speaker 6: make that junction weather tight. But you know, if you've 1238 01:10:54,375 --> 01:11:00,455 Speaker 6: got old, poor quality joinery with single glazing, then yeah, 1239 01:11:00,615 --> 01:11:04,335 Speaker 6: maybe replacing it a big step towards getting a more 1240 01:11:04,415 --> 01:11:05,575 Speaker 6: higher performing house. 1241 01:11:06,375 --> 01:11:08,655 Speaker 19: Yeah, she wants. She's thinking of doing that also, it's 1242 01:11:08,695 --> 01:11:10,775 Speaker 19: just with the budget. Can afford it all? 1243 01:11:11,015 --> 01:11:11,575 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 1244 01:11:12,455 --> 01:11:18,175 Speaker 19: So another quick question this quick she's what large windows 1245 01:11:18,215 --> 01:11:20,895 Speaker 19: because it was architecturally designed, so she I know, you 1246 01:11:20,895 --> 01:11:23,735 Speaker 19: can't alter the woods, but if she wants to make 1247 01:11:23,775 --> 01:11:25,695 Speaker 19: them shorter, she says, it's a bit like a fish 1248 01:11:25,695 --> 01:11:28,295 Speaker 19: bowl and it'll be cheaper if she can get smaller windows. 1249 01:11:28,775 --> 01:11:31,015 Speaker 19: About altering the woods, do you need a consent of that? 1250 01:11:33,695 --> 01:11:39,255 Speaker 6: No? No, not really. I wonder whether making the windows 1251 01:11:39,295 --> 01:11:42,535 Speaker 6: small it means having to extend your cladding right to 1252 01:11:42,615 --> 01:11:44,895 Speaker 6: fill up the gap. So if it's a two and 1253 01:11:44,935 --> 01:11:46,895 Speaker 6: a half meter wide window and you decide to make 1254 01:11:46,935 --> 01:11:49,535 Speaker 6: it eighteen hundred, you've got six hundred of extra cladding 1255 01:11:49,535 --> 01:11:57,135 Speaker 6: that you're going to install, which means then you're doing 1256 01:11:57,175 --> 01:12:01,495 Speaker 6: cladding and cladding and weather tightness typically triggers a requirement 1257 01:12:01,535 --> 01:12:04,495 Speaker 6: for a building consent, but you know, you could you 1258 01:12:04,495 --> 01:12:08,935 Speaker 6: could have that discussion with counsel around Look, I'm just 1259 01:12:09,695 --> 01:12:12,575 Speaker 6: I'm adding like for like cladding, although in this instance 1260 01:12:12,615 --> 01:12:14,415 Speaker 6: you don't want to do like for like because you're 1261 01:12:14,455 --> 01:12:15,775 Speaker 6: actually thinking about recladding. 1262 01:12:17,055 --> 01:12:22,855 Speaker 19: M she'll do it properly, properly with everything else the 1263 01:12:22,895 --> 01:12:25,335 Speaker 19: window side, Whether that can be a dramat to make 1264 01:12:25,375 --> 01:12:25,735 Speaker 19: them well. 1265 01:12:25,775 --> 01:12:28,255 Speaker 6: It will make the building consent simpler because you're not 1266 01:12:28,295 --> 01:12:31,015 Speaker 6: having to do any you know, design around the span 1267 01:12:31,095 --> 01:12:33,175 Speaker 6: of the lintels and that sort of thing if you're 1268 01:12:33,175 --> 01:12:35,495 Speaker 6: making them smaller. And you're right, and I think what 1269 01:12:36,015 --> 01:12:38,775 Speaker 6: she's probably picked up on is something that you know, 1270 01:12:39,055 --> 01:12:41,615 Speaker 6: I mean I know that New Zealand we love the idea. 1271 01:12:41,615 --> 01:12:43,735 Speaker 6: If we've got a view, we want to maximize it, right, 1272 01:12:43,815 --> 01:12:47,335 Speaker 6: and typically we maximize it by installing joinery, you know, 1273 01:12:47,495 --> 01:12:50,455 Speaker 6: large bits of glazing, which is awesome, but then we've 1274 01:12:50,495 --> 01:12:53,495 Speaker 6: also got to compensate for the fact that, you know, 1275 01:12:53,535 --> 01:12:55,495 Speaker 6: we can get a certain amount of performance out of 1276 01:12:55,535 --> 01:13:01,175 Speaker 6: our glazing, but it's not anywhere near the performance from 1277 01:13:01,375 --> 01:13:05,855 Speaker 6: a wall that's well insulated. So yeah, part of it's a. 1278 01:13:05,535 --> 01:13:08,575 Speaker 19: Good solution just well, yeah, the windows are so expensive 1279 01:13:08,615 --> 01:13:09,175 Speaker 19: now as well. 1280 01:13:10,535 --> 01:13:13,295 Speaker 6: That's an interesting point too. Yeah, if you're putting in 1281 01:13:13,375 --> 01:13:16,455 Speaker 6: smaller windows, you'll drive down the cost. I mean that's 1282 01:13:16,495 --> 01:13:21,015 Speaker 6: a balancing, isn't it. You know, you we want warmth 1283 01:13:21,095 --> 01:13:23,215 Speaker 6: from the sun. But then now we're talking about lots 1284 01:13:23,255 --> 01:13:26,815 Speaker 6: of our new builds being overheated. I think a lot 1285 01:13:26,855 --> 01:13:31,295 Speaker 6: of that is poor design, lack of shading, those sorts 1286 01:13:31,295 --> 01:13:35,015 Speaker 6: of things. Certainly lack of any actual active ventilation inside 1287 01:13:35,055 --> 01:13:38,615 Speaker 6: houses that as we build increasingly airtight, we need to ventilate. 1288 01:13:38,695 --> 01:13:43,695 Speaker 6: We need to ventilate, right, So fascinating all Yeah, I 1289 01:13:43,735 --> 01:13:48,055 Speaker 6: know it opens a whole can of but it's great. Yes, alright, Hey, 1290 01:13:48,055 --> 01:13:50,535 Speaker 6: lovely to chat with you, take care, go by thing 1291 01:13:50,855 --> 01:13:53,135 Speaker 6: you and news talks be twenty minutes away from eight. 1292 01:13:53,775 --> 01:13:55,455 Speaker 4: Doing other house storting the garden. 1293 01:13:55,535 --> 01:13:59,215 Speaker 1: Asked Fete for a hand the resident builder with peta wolfcab. 1294 01:13:59,335 --> 01:14:03,055 Speaker 4: Call eight hundred eight news talks be your. 1295 01:14:02,895 --> 01:14:05,255 Speaker 6: News talks, he'd be, and the lines are open. Oh, 1296 01:14:05,255 --> 01:14:07,455 Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call. Robert, 1297 01:14:07,495 --> 01:14:09,655 Speaker 6: good morning to you, Hey. 1298 01:14:09,495 --> 01:14:15,255 Speaker 8: Good morning. Yeah, I've got the property. Whether I told 1299 01:14:15,295 --> 01:14:17,935 Speaker 8: the well years ago when. 1300 01:14:17,775 --> 01:14:20,895 Speaker 6: This Robert, you might have you radio on in the background, 1301 01:14:20,895 --> 01:14:26,095 Speaker 6: which will be a bit stracting off there you go. 1302 01:14:27,855 --> 01:14:28,175 Speaker 13: Mm hm. 1303 01:14:28,775 --> 01:14:33,095 Speaker 8: Anyway, I'm on the on the on the river side 1304 01:14:33,135 --> 01:14:37,855 Speaker 8: of the Foul River, and just as what I am, 1305 01:14:37,935 --> 01:14:41,815 Speaker 8: because the water is and all the some water is 1306 01:14:42,695 --> 01:14:45,415 Speaker 8: because I've got the two main sewer drains on and 1307 01:14:46,215 --> 01:14:51,895 Speaker 8: main where everything, and sometimes they get blocked up, but 1308 01:14:52,175 --> 01:14:56,615 Speaker 8: they're not blocked up. Only the drains. They're not the 1309 01:14:56,775 --> 01:15:02,095 Speaker 8: old clear pipe drains and they used to do drain. 1310 01:15:02,375 --> 01:15:05,215 Speaker 8: And I know that the old clay pipe drinks are 1311 01:15:05,215 --> 01:15:09,655 Speaker 8: all right, but it's the ground moves that sort of 1312 01:15:09,735 --> 01:15:13,575 Speaker 8: do move as well, and that's all blocked up under 1313 01:15:13,615 --> 01:15:16,495 Speaker 8: the water. It is all a rain water just as well. 1314 01:15:16,495 --> 01:15:19,255 Speaker 8: It's a I've got a concrete wall at the side 1315 01:15:19,295 --> 01:15:22,215 Speaker 8: and it's just running over the top down into the river. 1316 01:15:23,015 --> 01:15:23,135 Speaker 20: Right. 1317 01:15:23,535 --> 01:15:24,735 Speaker 8: Wrung the count I wrung. 1318 01:15:24,775 --> 01:15:25,775 Speaker 11: The Count's suffered. 1319 01:15:26,615 --> 01:15:29,215 Speaker 8: They said they'll get back to me and get back 1320 01:15:29,255 --> 01:15:31,975 Speaker 8: to me, but they're getting back to me. 1321 01:15:32,615 --> 01:15:35,055 Speaker 6: I think it's important to note that, you know, drainage 1322 01:15:35,215 --> 01:15:39,895 Speaker 6: on your own property is your responsibility, it's not counsel's responsibility. 1323 01:15:41,215 --> 01:15:44,335 Speaker 6: So you know, if it's catchment from your own property, 1324 01:15:44,535 --> 01:15:49,255 Speaker 6: as a property owner, we're responsible for its control and discharge. 1325 01:15:49,535 --> 01:15:52,415 Speaker 8: Well I know that, But the thing is this is 1326 01:15:52,455 --> 01:15:59,735 Speaker 8: from other properties government, from up across across the across 1327 01:15:59,775 --> 01:16:05,375 Speaker 8: the way. Yes, and to put all these new where 1328 01:16:05,415 --> 01:16:09,015 Speaker 8: this old lady lived across the road, across the folders 1329 01:16:10,015 --> 01:16:17,335 Speaker 8: and the bill is five plats there. So that's not 1330 01:16:17,455 --> 01:16:19,255 Speaker 8: what have been helping anything either. 1331 01:16:21,015 --> 01:16:25,055 Speaker 6: I mean, typically, you know, developers as part of the 1332 01:16:25,095 --> 01:16:31,415 Speaker 6: development have to you know, upgrade systems. Sometimes. I'm aware 1333 01:16:31,455 --> 01:16:34,935 Speaker 6: of a couple of cases where developer, if you're wanting 1334 01:16:34,975 --> 01:16:37,655 Speaker 6: to add let's say three townhouses where there was one 1335 01:16:37,695 --> 01:16:41,415 Speaker 6: old house and there's no connection to the storm water, 1336 01:16:41,495 --> 01:16:43,495 Speaker 6: they have to come out and down the road and 1337 01:16:43,935 --> 01:16:47,175 Speaker 6: into a council stormwater line and in some cases they 1338 01:16:47,175 --> 01:16:50,215 Speaker 6: have to pay to upgrade that as well. So you know, 1339 01:16:50,415 --> 01:16:54,215 Speaker 6: ideally when that development took place, the developer should have 1340 01:16:55,055 --> 01:16:58,495 Speaker 6: ensued or should have been made to ensure that the 1341 01:16:58,615 --> 01:17:02,615 Speaker 6: stormwater discharge from the property can be controlled. Now it's 1342 01:17:02,655 --> 01:17:04,215 Speaker 6: quite possible that I. 1343 01:17:04,215 --> 01:17:09,895 Speaker 8: Can't understand why the counselor to build these five new 1344 01:17:10,015 --> 01:17:15,815 Speaker 8: flats just way opposite more or less my property when 1345 01:17:16,615 --> 01:17:19,015 Speaker 8: it was a single Houseboy. 1346 01:17:19,855 --> 01:17:21,895 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, that's that's a much bigger is 1347 01:17:22,015 --> 01:17:26,215 Speaker 6: in terms of town planning and intensification and housing affordability 1348 01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:29,695 Speaker 6: and so on. And I mean, look, I think as 1349 01:17:29,735 --> 01:17:33,655 Speaker 6: a country, as a you know, individual cities, we're going 1350 01:17:33,695 --> 01:17:38,575 Speaker 6: to need to intensify, right. I don't like the idea 1351 01:17:39,175 --> 01:17:42,255 Speaker 6: just spreading out further and further into the countryside. We 1352 01:17:42,295 --> 01:17:46,015 Speaker 6: want more people, ideally living in good quality housing and 1353 01:17:46,575 --> 01:17:51,815 Speaker 6: well planned subdivisions and so on inside our existing urban boundaries. 1354 01:17:52,575 --> 01:17:55,255 Speaker 6: And yes, that's going to mean where there was one house, 1355 01:17:55,295 --> 01:17:57,855 Speaker 6: there is now going to be three, four or five houses. 1356 01:17:58,815 --> 01:18:02,015 Speaker 6: So that that's where planning legislation, if it's good, will 1357 01:18:02,015 --> 01:18:05,015 Speaker 6: help with that. Look in terms of solving the problem 1358 01:18:05,055 --> 01:18:09,375 Speaker 6: for you you know, if it's old terra cotta pipe 1359 01:18:10,175 --> 01:18:13,815 Speaker 6: type drainage that you've got, and that's quite common in 1360 01:18:14,175 --> 01:18:17,135 Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of New Zealand houses, it just reaches 1361 01:18:17,215 --> 01:18:19,695 Speaker 6: the end of its life and probably the only solution 1362 01:18:19,775 --> 01:18:22,335 Speaker 6: is rip it out and replace it, or in some 1363 01:18:22,415 --> 01:18:25,735 Speaker 6: cases you can do sleeving just to ensure that there's 1364 01:18:25,735 --> 01:18:29,815 Speaker 6: no see pitch out of that. But and neighbors do 1365 01:18:30,095 --> 01:18:34,735 Speaker 6: have an obligation to control storm water. It's unfortunate that 1366 01:18:34,855 --> 01:18:38,095 Speaker 6: council aren't more helpful with that because they really should be. 1367 01:18:39,255 --> 01:18:41,375 Speaker 6: Thanks for you. Call Robert all the very best with that, Paul, 1368 01:18:41,415 --> 01:18:42,135 Speaker 6: Good morning to you. 1369 01:18:43,215 --> 01:18:45,615 Speaker 11: Yes, good morning, Peter, how are you very well? 1370 01:18:45,615 --> 01:18:45,855 Speaker 9: Thanks? 1371 01:18:45,855 --> 01:18:46,295 Speaker 6: What's up? 1372 01:18:47,295 --> 01:18:51,415 Speaker 11: Oh, it's an pretty simple one. I recently Well, first 1373 01:18:51,415 --> 01:18:55,375 Speaker 11: of all, I'm basically be paid a wheelchair bound and 1374 01:18:55,415 --> 01:18:57,735 Speaker 11: I got someone to put in a three three meter 1375 01:18:58,295 --> 01:19:00,655 Speaker 11: good old fashioned tin galvanized shed. 1376 01:19:01,175 --> 01:19:01,495 Speaker 4: Yes. 1377 01:19:02,775 --> 01:19:05,575 Speaker 11: Now, the roof, of course, is just two pitches, one 1378 01:19:05,615 --> 01:19:11,095 Speaker 11: on each side, and it's corrugated time on top of 1379 01:19:11,135 --> 01:19:12,775 Speaker 11: it is a camping right. 1380 01:19:13,455 --> 01:19:13,935 Speaker 4: Yes. 1381 01:19:15,135 --> 01:19:19,415 Speaker 11: Now, I'm in Northland and we get some fairly strong 1382 01:19:19,455 --> 01:19:23,695 Speaker 11: winds and the storms, and when that happens, the rain 1383 01:19:23,815 --> 01:19:28,895 Speaker 11: blows up yep, men corrigations and under the ridge because 1384 01:19:28,935 --> 01:19:33,455 Speaker 11: there is no flashing. Yes, how can we sort this out? 1385 01:19:34,535 --> 01:19:37,335 Speaker 6: So typical process for roofing when you come up to 1386 01:19:37,375 --> 01:19:41,215 Speaker 6: a ridge like that is you actually turn the trough 1387 01:19:41,375 --> 01:19:43,975 Speaker 6: of the sheet up before you put the flashing on, 1388 01:19:45,335 --> 01:19:47,895 Speaker 6: which you know, if it's corrugated, you use like a 1389 01:19:47,935 --> 01:19:49,695 Speaker 6: spanner or something like that, and you take the trough 1390 01:19:49,735 --> 01:19:51,935 Speaker 6: and you turn it up. What that does is provides 1391 01:19:51,935 --> 01:19:55,415 Speaker 6: a little dam so wind blow and rain hits that. 1392 01:19:55,775 --> 01:20:01,375 Speaker 6: And you know, in most instances mystand that, Yeah, so 1393 01:20:01,415 --> 01:20:04,695 Speaker 6: that that's typically what you do. So you take the 1394 01:20:04,735 --> 01:20:07,135 Speaker 6: ridge cap off, you turn up the troughs of all 1395 01:20:07,175 --> 01:20:09,015 Speaker 6: of the sheets. The other thing you can do is 1396 01:20:09,055 --> 01:20:11,215 Speaker 6: before you put the ridge cap back down on there, 1397 01:20:11,615 --> 01:20:16,335 Speaker 6: you can get like a foam profiled filler that you 1398 01:20:16,375 --> 01:20:20,015 Speaker 6: can put down. Yeah, just a foam. It'll come in 1399 01:20:20,055 --> 01:20:23,095 Speaker 6: the different whether it's corrugated or trapezoidal or whatever it is. 1400 01:20:23,855 --> 01:20:25,215 Speaker 11: You put that in. 1401 01:20:26,455 --> 01:20:29,815 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's already profiled, right, so it's designed to 1402 01:20:29,975 --> 01:20:32,855 Speaker 6: match the profile of the roofing iron that you're using. 1403 01:20:33,335 --> 01:20:36,815 Speaker 6: Put that on just up from the bottom of the flashing, 1404 01:20:36,815 --> 01:20:39,135 Speaker 6: the lower edge of the flashing, and again that'll stop 1405 01:20:39,175 --> 01:20:41,735 Speaker 6: water being driven in by the wind. 1406 01:20:42,975 --> 01:20:45,055 Speaker 11: The bottom edge of the non flashing. 1407 01:20:44,695 --> 01:20:46,975 Speaker 6: Is what you mean of the top flashing. So if 1408 01:20:47,015 --> 01:20:49,215 Speaker 6: you've got a ridge flashing that spans both sides, you 1409 01:20:49,295 --> 01:20:51,855 Speaker 6: do a layer on both sides as well as turning 1410 01:20:51,935 --> 01:20:53,415 Speaker 6: up the trough of the sheet. 1411 01:20:54,175 --> 01:20:57,455 Speaker 11: No, I understand this is just a straight flat panel. 1412 01:20:57,695 --> 01:21:02,615 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So sometimes with those ridge cappings they're not 1413 01:21:02,735 --> 01:21:05,615 Speaker 6: profiled as well, so they don't go down into the sheet. 1414 01:21:05,775 --> 01:21:08,895 Speaker 6: And again you've got quite a big gap there, you know. 1415 01:21:08,975 --> 01:21:12,055 Speaker 6: That's where again typically on a roof, your head flashing 1416 01:21:12,135 --> 01:21:15,295 Speaker 6: or your your ridge flashing will have soft edge on 1417 01:21:15,335 --> 01:21:18,295 Speaker 6: it that you can push down into the profile, or 1418 01:21:18,415 --> 01:21:21,615 Speaker 6: in some cases you cut the flashing to match the 1419 01:21:21,655 --> 01:21:27,175 Speaker 6: profile to stop exactly. Yeah, we don't use that anymore. 1420 01:21:27,175 --> 01:21:30,935 Speaker 6: It's a soft edge. Yeah, yeah, it should be available, Paul, 1421 01:21:31,575 --> 01:21:34,055 Speaker 6: good luck with all of that. Sounds like a relatively 1422 01:21:34,055 --> 01:21:36,055 Speaker 6: simple fact, but sounds like you might need someone to 1423 01:21:36,575 --> 01:21:38,055 Speaker 6: help you with that. Good luck with that one. It 1424 01:21:38,175 --> 01:21:40,455 Speaker 6: is coming up nine minutes away from eight. 1425 01:21:40,695 --> 01:21:43,615 Speaker 1: Whether you're peaty with ceiling fixing with feds or wondering 1426 01:21:43,655 --> 01:21:45,695 Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter 1427 01:21:45,815 --> 01:21:47,015 Speaker 1: wolf Cap call on. 1428 01:21:48,895 --> 01:21:50,975 Speaker 4: The resident builder on you Dogs B. 1429 01:21:52,255 --> 01:21:56,935 Speaker 6: News Talks B Pete just listening to this is a 1430 01:21:56,935 --> 01:22:01,055 Speaker 6: good one, just after Paul's sorry Robert's conversation about drainage 1431 01:22:01,055 --> 01:22:03,775 Speaker 6: Peat just listening to the strainage question. When a council 1432 01:22:03,775 --> 01:22:06,935 Speaker 6: has given consent for a neighboring property to raise its land, 1433 01:22:06,975 --> 01:22:10,015 Speaker 6: which then causes the neighbors to flood, are they responsible 1434 01:22:10,055 --> 01:22:10,215 Speaker 6: for this? 1435 01:22:11,375 --> 01:22:11,495 Speaker 21: Look? 1436 01:22:11,535 --> 01:22:14,455 Speaker 6: Getting them to be responsible or take responsibility is probably 1437 01:22:14,535 --> 01:22:17,455 Speaker 6: quite difficult. But I would have thought that I might 1438 01:22:17,495 --> 01:22:19,695 Speaker 6: be a bit naive, or I might be overly optimistic, 1439 01:22:19,695 --> 01:22:21,575 Speaker 6: but I would have thought that if they got permission 1440 01:22:21,695 --> 01:22:24,855 Speaker 6: to raise the ground level, that they would also then 1441 01:22:25,095 --> 01:22:29,535 Speaker 6: have in place some design to cope with overflow. Right, 1442 01:22:30,015 --> 01:22:34,015 Speaker 6: So you know, whether that's catchment from the roof area, 1443 01:22:34,055 --> 01:22:37,215 Speaker 6: it's got to be directed into storm water. If it's 1444 01:22:37,775 --> 01:22:42,655 Speaker 6: permeable or impermeable surfaces, catchment from that needs to be 1445 01:22:42,735 --> 01:22:47,575 Speaker 6: directed to storm water. The design ideally shouldn't then direct 1446 01:22:47,575 --> 01:22:52,055 Speaker 6: stormwater or groundwater on even ground, just rainwater that lands 1447 01:22:52,095 --> 01:22:56,415 Speaker 6: on the ground to a neighboring property. It really shouldn't, 1448 01:22:56,415 --> 01:22:59,415 Speaker 6: but let's not saying it might not. Oh eight hundred 1449 01:22:59,495 --> 01:23:01,495 Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number, Maggie, Hello there. 1450 01:23:02,415 --> 01:23:10,775 Speaker 22: Good morning. I live in a seventies built home. The 1451 01:23:10,775 --> 01:23:14,735 Speaker 22: frontage has a balcony across the front, which would be 1452 01:23:14,775 --> 01:23:21,295 Speaker 22: about twenty eight meters. On their balcony is pieces of decking. 1453 01:23:22,335 --> 01:23:25,175 Speaker 22: The grooved decking. I'm not sure what you call it. 1454 01:23:26,655 --> 01:23:29,775 Speaker 22: I noticed that some of the joints in the decking 1455 01:23:30,095 --> 01:23:36,175 Speaker 22: are now like shrinking and then starting to come up, 1456 01:23:37,095 --> 01:23:42,775 Speaker 22: curl up like a stale sandwich, and the screws are 1457 01:23:42,815 --> 01:23:49,575 Speaker 22: no longer holding that dicking down. Have you come across 1458 01:23:49,655 --> 01:23:50,815 Speaker 22: any problems like this? 1459 01:23:51,735 --> 01:23:55,495 Speaker 6: So I presume it's decking that's a buttered together. So 1460 01:23:55,535 --> 01:23:57,295 Speaker 6: it's not like tongue and groove or anything. It's just 1461 01:23:57,415 --> 01:23:58,175 Speaker 6: regular decking. 1462 01:23:59,135 --> 01:24:00,215 Speaker 22: It's regular decking. 1463 01:24:03,095 --> 01:24:06,015 Speaker 6: We're going to run into the news at eight o'clock 1464 01:24:06,575 --> 01:24:08,815 Speaker 6: and I'm trying not to crash into it like I 1465 01:24:08,855 --> 01:24:12,535 Speaker 6: normally do, as if it's unexpected. So stay listening and 1466 01:24:12,615 --> 01:24:15,975 Speaker 6: I'll it's a pretty simple facts. I'll address that straight 1467 01:24:16,015 --> 01:24:18,175 Speaker 6: after New Sport and Weather top of the hour at 1468 01:24:18,175 --> 01:24:19,655 Speaker 6: eight o'clock here at News Talks c B. 1469 01:24:20,615 --> 01:24:24,175 Speaker 1: Squeaky door or Squeaky floor Get the right advice from 1470 01:24:24,295 --> 01:24:28,535 Speaker 1: Peter Wolfgare the resident builder on news TALKSB Your. 1471 01:24:28,415 --> 01:24:30,415 Speaker 6: New Stalks c B. And just before the news we 1472 01:24:30,415 --> 01:24:32,695 Speaker 6: were talking to Maggie about the decking and some of 1473 01:24:32,735 --> 01:24:37,175 Speaker 6: the joints lifting and the boards shrinking. Maggie, roughly, how 1474 01:24:37,175 --> 01:24:38,295 Speaker 6: old is the decking? 1475 01:24:41,855 --> 01:24:47,415 Speaker 22: Not sure, Pete. I've been in the house five years now, yep. 1476 01:24:48,135 --> 01:24:51,975 Speaker 22: But it is a seventies house and just looking at it, 1477 01:24:51,975 --> 01:24:56,135 Speaker 22: it looks like it may have had some some boards 1478 01:24:56,175 --> 01:24:59,935 Speaker 22: replaced at some time. But if we go back to 1479 01:25:00,535 --> 01:25:02,935 Speaker 22: original seventies. 1480 01:25:03,935 --> 01:25:09,335 Speaker 6: It's getting and that's kin kind of you know, things 1481 01:25:09,335 --> 01:25:14,215 Speaker 6: have a lifespan, right, and decking in some cases, you know, 1482 01:25:14,255 --> 01:25:16,855 Speaker 6: if it's like, for example, if it was a pine 1483 01:25:16,895 --> 01:25:20,455 Speaker 6: decking and it was I don't know, twenty five, twenty 1484 01:25:20,535 --> 01:25:22,975 Speaker 6: years old something like that, it's probably getting to the 1485 01:25:23,055 --> 01:25:27,415 Speaker 6: end of its life. So at a certain stage you 1486 01:25:27,495 --> 01:25:29,535 Speaker 6: might just need to sort of face the fact that 1487 01:25:29,615 --> 01:25:32,975 Speaker 6: it just needs replacing. However, if it's more a maintenance 1488 01:25:33,055 --> 01:25:35,455 Speaker 6: type thing, and if it's just some screws that are 1489 01:25:35,455 --> 01:25:39,255 Speaker 6: coming out, I would simply take those screws out, find 1490 01:25:39,375 --> 01:25:43,775 Speaker 6: a longer decking screw and have someone refix it using 1491 01:25:43,815 --> 01:25:47,655 Speaker 6: the existing holes with a longer screw that will get 1492 01:25:47,695 --> 01:25:50,935 Speaker 6: some bite into the jost below and try and fix 1493 01:25:51,015 --> 01:25:52,815 Speaker 6: them down. Some of the boards that have got a 1494 01:25:52,815 --> 01:25:54,815 Speaker 6: twist in it that you can't get out, maybe you 1495 01:25:54,855 --> 01:25:57,615 Speaker 6: just need to replace them, like for like. But at 1496 01:25:57,615 --> 01:26:00,095 Speaker 6: a certain stage, I do wonder whether you might be 1497 01:26:00,135 --> 01:26:02,215 Speaker 6: getting to that point where it just needs to be 1498 01:26:02,255 --> 01:26:04,775 Speaker 6: lifted and the decking replaced. 1499 01:26:06,735 --> 01:26:08,415 Speaker 22: Lived the whole deck, or adjust a. 1500 01:26:09,895 --> 01:26:10,215 Speaker 23: Shark. 1501 01:26:10,655 --> 01:26:13,095 Speaker 6: I mean, look, that's the thing. You can just replace 1502 01:26:13,175 --> 01:26:15,735 Speaker 6: the boards that are particularly twisted, but it will look 1503 01:26:15,815 --> 01:26:18,575 Speaker 6: like you know, it'll be a bit piecemeal and bit patchy. 1504 01:26:20,335 --> 01:26:20,895 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1505 01:26:21,975 --> 01:26:25,135 Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a coaler deck, I'm told, Okay, it's. 1506 01:26:24,975 --> 01:26:28,455 Speaker 6: A coiler deck. Look if it's I'm just trying to 1507 01:26:28,495 --> 01:26:30,535 Speaker 6: think of the last one that I replaced. You know, 1508 01:26:30,575 --> 01:26:33,575 Speaker 6: if you get fifteen twenty years, they're pretty close to 1509 01:26:33,615 --> 01:26:35,775 Speaker 6: the end of their life by the end. And that's 1510 01:26:35,855 --> 01:26:39,655 Speaker 6: no disrespect to the product. It's just they do you know, 1511 01:26:39,735 --> 01:26:42,375 Speaker 6: we're out, and when they do, maybe you need to 1512 01:26:42,375 --> 01:26:44,735 Speaker 6: replace them. But in the meantime, you could replace the 1513 01:26:44,775 --> 01:26:48,095 Speaker 6: boards that are particularly twisted and add some additional fixings 1514 01:26:48,375 --> 01:26:50,695 Speaker 6: and that'll at least stop it being a hazard. So 1515 01:26:51,535 --> 01:26:53,295 Speaker 6: good luck with that. I hope it works. Out it 1516 01:26:53,375 --> 01:26:59,375 Speaker 6: is nine minutes after eight. Does that be a couple 1517 01:26:59,415 --> 01:27:02,295 Speaker 6: of weeks ago? Someone rang and was talking about sort 1518 01:27:02,335 --> 01:27:07,015 Speaker 6: of faded aluminum jewinery. Interestingly enough, so in many cases 1519 01:27:07,055 --> 01:27:09,775 Speaker 6: you'll get faded aluminium jowinery. Maybe the garage door looks 1520 01:27:09,775 --> 01:27:13,455 Speaker 6: a bit dull. So aluminium powder coated surfaces can fade 1521 01:27:13,495 --> 01:27:16,855 Speaker 6: and discolor over time. New Zealand weather, the intense weather 1522 01:27:16,895 --> 01:27:20,895 Speaker 6: the UV causes oxidation and corrosion on aluminium windows and 1523 01:27:20,895 --> 01:27:24,495 Speaker 6: garage doors. So Nanoclear is a solution to restore and 1524 01:27:24,575 --> 01:27:28,655 Speaker 6: protect these surfaces. Today, Daniel, one of Nanoclear's professional applicators, 1525 01:27:28,935 --> 01:27:30,735 Speaker 6: is here to tell us a bit more. Daniel, good morning, 1526 01:27:31,575 --> 01:27:33,455 Speaker 6: Good morning Peter, how are you hey? Now, I know 1527 01:27:33,575 --> 01:27:36,335 Speaker 6: Nanoclear is like a protective coating, so tell us a 1528 01:27:36,335 --> 01:27:37,975 Speaker 6: little bit more about it and what makes it the 1529 01:27:37,975 --> 01:27:41,215 Speaker 6: best solution for the protection of aluminium window frames and 1530 01:27:41,255 --> 01:27:41,975 Speaker 6: garage doors. 1531 01:27:43,015 --> 01:27:43,735 Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks Peter. 1532 01:27:43,975 --> 01:27:46,655 Speaker 21: We have a team of friendly professionals who take care 1533 01:27:47,015 --> 01:27:50,895 Speaker 21: and special attention to protecting your podder coded surfaces, increasing 1534 01:27:50,935 --> 01:27:52,975 Speaker 21: the look and the value of your asset, whether it 1535 01:27:53,055 --> 01:27:57,295 Speaker 21: be your personal home or your business. Now, Nanoclear is 1536 01:27:57,295 --> 01:27:59,895 Speaker 21: a spray on coating and it has several key benefits 1537 01:28:00,055 --> 01:28:02,615 Speaker 21: that offer long term protection to your garage doors and 1538 01:28:02,655 --> 01:28:05,175 Speaker 21: your aluminium jewnery. So they said, it's a spray on 1539 01:28:05,215 --> 01:28:07,975 Speaker 21: finish and it gives you a smooth and as new finished, 1540 01:28:08,335 --> 01:28:11,335 Speaker 21: we can adjust the gloss level from matts to full 1541 01:28:11,375 --> 01:28:16,295 Speaker 21: gloss or even apply that texture on the new aluminium jowinery, 1542 01:28:16,335 --> 01:28:19,295 Speaker 21: extrusions on that, on that on the new windows. So 1543 01:28:19,495 --> 01:28:21,975 Speaker 21: Nana Player is six times harder than paint and it's 1544 01:28:22,055 --> 01:28:25,535 Speaker 21: highly resistant to scratches. It's also chemical in solvent resistant, 1545 01:28:25,615 --> 01:28:29,855 Speaker 21: so houshash treatments, bug sprays, sunscreen off your hands, and 1546 01:28:29,855 --> 01:28:31,575 Speaker 21: even graffiti won't stick to the surface. 1547 01:28:31,655 --> 01:28:32,295 Speaker 14: It can all be. 1548 01:28:32,335 --> 01:28:33,255 Speaker 11: Easily wiped off. 1549 01:28:33,655 --> 01:28:36,615 Speaker 21: Yeah, and like you mentioned, it's uve resistant, so meaning 1550 01:28:36,615 --> 01:28:39,655 Speaker 21: it won't fade and it'll protect your jowinery for up 1551 01:28:39,655 --> 01:28:40,375 Speaker 21: to ten years. 1552 01:28:40,735 --> 01:28:43,695 Speaker 6: It is impressive, and I suppose especially for houses where 1553 01:28:43,695 --> 01:28:45,855 Speaker 6: maybe you've done a retro fit of the double glazing, 1554 01:28:45,935 --> 01:28:47,415 Speaker 6: it can be a little bit tricky when you've got 1555 01:28:47,415 --> 01:28:50,215 Speaker 6: some old new jowinery side by side, might end up 1556 01:28:50,215 --> 01:28:51,935 Speaker 6: looking a bit patchy. 1557 01:28:52,535 --> 01:28:53,175 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 1558 01:28:53,215 --> 01:28:56,055 Speaker 21: Yeah, after retrofitting, we make sure the jewinery is coded 1559 01:28:56,095 --> 01:28:59,775 Speaker 21: evenly so the old areas look just like the new extrusions, 1560 01:28:59,815 --> 01:29:03,855 Speaker 21: avoiding any discrepancy and color that can be obvious with retrifiting. 1561 01:29:04,455 --> 01:29:06,535 Speaker 21: So to do this, we coake the entire window to 1562 01:29:06,615 --> 01:29:10,335 Speaker 21: ensure a uniform like newer pearans. This option it not 1563 01:29:10,415 --> 01:29:12,815 Speaker 21: only helps achieve a warmer home at a lower cost 1564 01:29:12,855 --> 01:29:15,615 Speaker 21: and replacing the jewinery, but it also transforms the look 1565 01:29:15,655 --> 01:29:16,255 Speaker 21: of your property. 1566 01:29:16,695 --> 01:29:19,975 Speaker 6: Now I've seen your work firsthand, and when you recolored 1567 01:29:20,015 --> 01:29:23,335 Speaker 6: some alminium joiner in a house to a completely different shade. 1568 01:29:23,375 --> 01:29:25,255 Speaker 6: So if you've got an old orange one but you 1569 01:29:25,255 --> 01:29:27,695 Speaker 6: weren't gray, that can you can do that? 1570 01:29:28,815 --> 01:29:29,055 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1571 01:29:29,055 --> 01:29:29,455 Speaker 17: That's right. 1572 01:29:29,495 --> 01:29:31,735 Speaker 21: Yeah, No, It's incredible how something is simple as just 1573 01:29:31,815 --> 01:29:33,895 Speaker 21: changing the joinery color I can give you home. 1574 01:29:33,735 --> 01:29:34,775 Speaker 4: A completely new look. 1575 01:29:35,295 --> 01:29:36,095 Speaker 11: It's almost as. 1576 01:29:35,975 --> 01:29:39,335 Speaker 21: If you've had a major renovation, completely updating their parents. 1577 01:29:39,495 --> 01:29:41,495 Speaker 21: So to do this, we remove all the hardware and 1578 01:29:41,535 --> 01:29:44,175 Speaker 21: the latches, the handles, and strip out the ceiling rubbers 1579 01:29:44,215 --> 01:29:46,575 Speaker 21: and the opening sashes. We even take those little furs 1580 01:29:46,575 --> 01:29:50,695 Speaker 21: out of the ranch sliders and fully recolor the joinery. 1581 01:29:50,775 --> 01:29:53,255 Speaker 21: And after we've done even builders can't tell a difference. 1582 01:29:53,615 --> 01:29:57,175 Speaker 21: Plus we offer an upgrade to modern hardware to replace 1583 01:29:57,255 --> 01:29:59,375 Speaker 21: your handles and latches and just give it a bran 1584 01:29:59,455 --> 01:30:03,575 Speaker 21: new look without the hassle or expense of replacing it entirely. 1585 01:30:03,735 --> 01:30:06,215 Speaker 6: Now, Nanoclear operate nationwide right across the car. 1586 01:30:06,895 --> 01:30:08,015 Speaker 4: How can people get in touch? 1587 01:30:08,935 --> 01:30:11,695 Speaker 21: Yeah, just simply visit us at dub dub dub dot, 1588 01:30:11,775 --> 01:30:14,535 Speaker 21: Nanoclear dot co, dot and z. We'll come to your site, 1589 01:30:14,575 --> 01:30:16,695 Speaker 21: provide you a quote, and we'll guide you through the process. 1590 01:30:16,735 --> 01:30:17,655 Speaker 11: We have a team of. 1591 01:30:18,135 --> 01:30:21,335 Speaker 21: Friendly people ready to help make your aluminum jewelery look 1592 01:30:21,375 --> 01:30:21,775 Speaker 21: new again. 1593 01:30:22,415 --> 01:30:24,935 Speaker 6: Nanocrea is a great solution, Thanks very much, Daniel. So 1594 01:30:25,055 --> 01:30:27,775 Speaker 6: if your powder coated surfaces are starting to get tired, 1595 01:30:27,895 --> 01:30:30,735 Speaker 6: or you're looking to replace, looking to make them look 1596 01:30:30,855 --> 01:30:33,815 Speaker 6: like new, or change the color of your aluminium joinery 1597 01:30:34,015 --> 01:30:38,375 Speaker 6: or garage doors, contact Nanoclear. That's Nanoclear dot co dot 1598 01:30:38,495 --> 01:30:43,175 Speaker 6: n z ZB. A couple of texts come in just 1599 01:30:43,255 --> 01:30:45,695 Speaker 6: with regard to decking and that sort of thing as well. 1600 01:30:45,775 --> 01:30:48,135 Speaker 6: Hey Pete about to lay a coaler deck. Do I 1601 01:30:48,175 --> 01:30:49,855 Speaker 6: have to put oil on it? Or do I wait 1602 01:30:49,935 --> 01:30:54,575 Speaker 6: until its silver's off from Nick? I think ideally you 1603 01:30:54,735 --> 01:30:57,295 Speaker 6: let it sort of settle down. And the other thing 1604 01:30:57,335 --> 01:31:01,095 Speaker 6: with quila is it bleeds right, So make sure that 1605 01:31:01,135 --> 01:31:05,655 Speaker 6: wherever you store it is not don't store it on 1606 01:31:05,695 --> 01:31:07,935 Speaker 6: the concreteway because I'll get a text in a week 1607 01:31:08,095 --> 01:31:10,775 Speaker 6: going I've got the stain on the concrete driveway, make 1608 01:31:10,815 --> 01:31:13,575 Speaker 6: sure it's on a on the grass or something like that. 1609 01:31:13,695 --> 01:31:16,055 Speaker 6: Let it bleed out onto there before doing the decking. 1610 01:31:16,095 --> 01:31:18,655 Speaker 6: If the decking is close to a pathway, make sure 1611 01:31:18,655 --> 01:31:22,175 Speaker 6: it doesn't bleed onto that as well. Do the quiler decking. 1612 01:31:22,255 --> 01:31:24,295 Speaker 6: I think kind of it's a bit hard at this 1613 01:31:24,335 --> 01:31:26,735 Speaker 6: time of year. You might even just leave it for 1614 01:31:26,775 --> 01:31:32,495 Speaker 6: the winter and let it sort of weather a little bit. 1615 01:31:32,895 --> 01:31:36,615 Speaker 6: It won't change color too much over the winter. Let 1616 01:31:36,655 --> 01:31:38,855 Speaker 6: it sort of get rid of all of that sap 1617 01:31:38,895 --> 01:31:40,495 Speaker 6: and that sort of thing, and then as soon as 1618 01:31:40,495 --> 01:31:43,655 Speaker 6: the weather comes right, I'd give it a really thorough clean, 1619 01:31:43,775 --> 01:31:47,295 Speaker 6: like with some raisine deckwash. Clean it thoroughly and then 1620 01:31:47,375 --> 01:31:52,295 Speaker 6: apply a coating there. It'll help protect it most definitely. 1621 01:31:52,655 --> 01:31:54,735 Speaker 6: If you've got a comment or a question, the lines 1622 01:31:54,735 --> 01:31:57,055 Speaker 6: are still open right through it at eight eight thirty 1623 01:31:57,095 --> 01:31:58,855 Speaker 6: this morning, when of course we jump into the garden 1624 01:31:58,855 --> 01:32:02,015 Speaker 6: with a red climb pass. So feel free to call 1625 01:32:02,255 --> 01:32:05,575 Speaker 6: right now on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Murray's 1626 01:32:05,575 --> 01:32:07,415 Speaker 6: got a text as well. In a recent storm, a 1627 01:32:07,455 --> 01:32:09,695 Speaker 6: section of our fence came down due to the post 1628 01:32:09,775 --> 01:32:13,175 Speaker 6: snapping off at ground level. They were concreted in to 1629 01:32:13,295 --> 01:32:15,975 Speaker 6: repair them. Would you dig out the old concrete creating 1630 01:32:16,055 --> 01:32:18,855 Speaker 6: huge holes to replace or put a new fence post 1631 01:32:18,935 --> 01:32:20,855 Speaker 6: beside her in the middle of the space between the 1632 01:32:20,855 --> 01:32:25,335 Speaker 6: old posts, Murray, I'll tell you when I finished doing 1633 01:32:25,455 --> 01:32:28,375 Speaker 6: exactly that. I don't think i'll get around to it 1634 01:32:28,415 --> 01:32:31,135 Speaker 6: this week, but hopefully next week I'm going to. Well, 1635 01:32:31,415 --> 01:32:33,695 Speaker 6: they haven't blown over, but it's leaning to such a 1636 01:32:33,695 --> 01:32:35,615 Speaker 6: degree that looks really shonky, So I've got to get 1637 01:32:35,655 --> 01:32:37,895 Speaker 6: in and dig those out. I'm going to dig them 1638 01:32:37,935 --> 01:32:40,735 Speaker 6: out and just put a new post in, because then 1639 01:32:40,735 --> 01:32:44,975 Speaker 6: I don't have to change the panel sizes. I'm thinking 1640 01:32:44,975 --> 01:32:47,015 Speaker 6: I'll be able to cut through the fixings, lift the 1641 01:32:47,015 --> 01:32:50,335 Speaker 6: panels out, take the post out, replace it, and then 1642 01:32:50,375 --> 01:32:54,335 Speaker 6: put the panels back in. So look, if you want to, 1643 01:32:54,455 --> 01:32:58,055 Speaker 6: you can certainly go and put a new post alongside. 1644 01:32:58,055 --> 01:33:01,295 Speaker 6: It might look a little bit odd, but yes, you 1645 01:33:01,295 --> 01:33:02,735 Speaker 6: can do it. Or you just have to dig a 1646 01:33:02,775 --> 01:33:07,975 Speaker 6: hole and inevitably up putting just a little bit more 1647 01:33:08,535 --> 01:33:11,495 Speaker 6: concrete around those holes. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1648 01:33:11,535 --> 01:33:13,855 Speaker 6: is the number to call just on the downpipe. And 1649 01:33:13,895 --> 01:33:15,415 Speaker 6: this is the time of year that we sort of 1650 01:33:15,415 --> 01:33:17,535 Speaker 6: look at storm water and drainage and that sort of thing. 1651 01:33:18,175 --> 01:33:22,815 Speaker 6: My neighbor's down my knee, neighbor's garage roof downpipe directs 1652 01:33:22,855 --> 01:33:25,095 Speaker 6: the water straight onto the ground next to our driveway. 1653 01:33:25,135 --> 01:33:27,935 Speaker 6: The water then runs down our drive and out under 1654 01:33:27,975 --> 01:33:30,575 Speaker 6: the house. I've politely raised this and his obligation to 1655 01:33:30,655 --> 01:33:33,375 Speaker 6: control his stormwater, but he said that there's nothing he 1656 01:33:33,455 --> 01:33:37,655 Speaker 6: can do. Clearly, it's his obligations. What are my options now? 1657 01:33:39,215 --> 01:33:42,255 Speaker 6: It is the neighbour's obligation, right, It's quite clear stormwater 1658 01:33:42,375 --> 01:33:44,695 Speaker 6: needs to be controlled and having it flooding onto the 1659 01:33:44,735 --> 01:33:48,575 Speaker 6: ground is not controlling it. And to be fair, it's 1660 01:33:48,615 --> 01:33:51,095 Speaker 6: a flat out lie when he says nothing he can do. 1661 01:33:51,215 --> 01:33:54,855 Speaker 6: What he can do is extend his existing storm water 1662 01:33:55,095 --> 01:33:59,055 Speaker 6: to collect the downpoort to collect the water from the 1663 01:33:59,055 --> 01:34:01,575 Speaker 6: downpipe coming from the garage. It shouldn't just go onto 1664 01:34:01,615 --> 01:34:04,615 Speaker 6: the ground. You may well have some luck if you 1665 01:34:04,695 --> 01:34:07,575 Speaker 6: go to council and we take a photograph of it 1666 01:34:07,735 --> 01:34:10,935 Speaker 6: or a little video of when it's raining, and counsel 1667 01:34:11,095 --> 01:34:13,815 Speaker 6: might come and visit and go, you know, at an 1668 01:34:13,975 --> 01:34:16,975 Speaker 6: enforcement notice or something like that, or at least inform 1669 01:34:17,495 --> 01:34:21,095 Speaker 6: the homeowner of their obligations to control their own stormwater. 1670 01:34:22,255 --> 01:34:26,615 Speaker 6: My understanding is that again, certainly in Auckland, they've actually 1671 01:34:26,615 --> 01:34:31,335 Speaker 6: had a team out literally walking the streets looking at 1672 01:34:31,495 --> 01:34:34,535 Speaker 6: you know, from the road frontage, looking at stormwater discharge. 1673 01:34:34,575 --> 01:34:36,975 Speaker 6: And if they see down pipes that are not connected 1674 01:34:37,095 --> 01:34:40,375 Speaker 6: or just dispose onto the ground, or stormwater that's not 1675 01:34:40,415 --> 01:34:42,455 Speaker 6: connected at all, that sort of thing, they'll they'll go 1676 01:34:42,575 --> 01:34:44,895 Speaker 6: and approach the homeowner and go, hey, look, are you 1677 01:34:44,975 --> 01:34:48,735 Speaker 6: aware of your obligations? I think that's great to be fair. 1678 01:34:49,495 --> 01:34:55,335 Speaker 6: Radio seventeen after eight Lauren, Hello there, Hi, how are you? Hey, Lauren, 1679 01:34:55,375 --> 01:34:56,135 Speaker 6: I'm very well. 1680 01:34:55,935 --> 01:34:58,655 Speaker 20: And you good. Good, Thank you? 1681 01:34:59,615 --> 01:35:00,055 Speaker 24: What's up? 1682 01:35:00,655 --> 01:35:01,295 Speaker 19: My question? 1683 01:35:01,655 --> 01:35:03,815 Speaker 20: My question to you is, I'm Jessica. 1684 01:35:03,975 --> 01:35:07,175 Speaker 24: I'm just in the process of buying a property. It's 1685 01:35:07,375 --> 01:35:09,855 Speaker 24: one unit out of a block of cour so it's 1686 01:35:09,895 --> 01:35:11,095 Speaker 24: on a cross leaf title. 1687 01:35:12,415 --> 01:35:15,815 Speaker 20: Now, back in nineteen eighty two, there was a shed, 1688 01:35:16,295 --> 01:35:19,775 Speaker 20: well essentially a sewing room that was actually built on 1689 01:35:20,215 --> 01:35:23,455 Speaker 20: the usable land for that unit. Yes, and it was 1690 01:35:23,535 --> 01:35:26,935 Speaker 20: permitted and consented and everything like that back then. 1691 01:35:27,015 --> 01:35:29,575 Speaker 13: But it wasn't actually added to the pro. 1692 01:35:29,695 --> 01:35:31,935 Speaker 6: The flats plan yep yees. 1693 01:35:32,295 --> 01:35:35,215 Speaker 20: So it's come back that when we did the valuation 1694 01:35:35,375 --> 01:35:38,015 Speaker 20: and the infection, that it's come back that now the 1695 01:35:38,055 --> 01:35:39,175 Speaker 20: title is defective. 1696 01:35:39,415 --> 01:35:41,935 Speaker 11: Yes, so it's been a few. 1697 01:35:41,735 --> 01:35:44,095 Speaker 24: Things that we've had to go through to obviously thort 1698 01:35:44,135 --> 01:35:47,535 Speaker 24: that out. But how hard is it going to be 1699 01:35:47,775 --> 01:35:50,295 Speaker 24: to like, what's the process to have to add that 1700 01:35:50,415 --> 01:35:53,975 Speaker 24: sewing room to the title at a later date? 1701 01:35:55,855 --> 01:35:59,095 Speaker 6: Generally it's you have to update to the best one 1702 01:35:59,255 --> 01:36:03,015 Speaker 6: of the flats plant right to show the location of that. 1703 01:36:03,415 --> 01:36:06,015 Speaker 6: The fact that it's got a building consent is probably 1704 01:36:06,055 --> 01:36:08,695 Speaker 6: quite useful because it shows that the building at least 1705 01:36:08,735 --> 01:36:11,615 Speaker 6: is compliant. But it's the updating of the So it's 1706 01:36:11,655 --> 01:36:15,735 Speaker 6: typically done by a surveyor who will come survey the property, 1707 01:36:16,215 --> 01:36:20,295 Speaker 6: add the physical dimensions to the flats plant, and then 1708 01:36:20,495 --> 01:36:29,335 Speaker 6: update the title thereafter. If it cost you twenty thousand dollars, 1709 01:36:29,415 --> 01:36:35,775 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, so, and I've had a 1710 01:36:35,815 --> 01:36:39,095 Speaker 6: couple of discussions with people recently around doing that sort 1711 01:36:39,135 --> 01:36:41,455 Speaker 6: of thing, and that was the figure, And I to 1712 01:36:41,495 --> 01:36:43,215 Speaker 6: be fair, I was a little bit staggered that it 1713 01:36:43,215 --> 01:36:46,215 Speaker 6: would cost that much maybe you can do it for less, 1714 01:36:46,255 --> 01:36:50,575 Speaker 6: but I'm throwing that figure out to go. It's seemingly 1715 01:36:50,895 --> 01:36:54,575 Speaker 6: not inexpensive thing to have done. And I guess you're 1716 01:36:54,615 --> 01:36:56,975 Speaker 6: in a position where, if you're thinking about buying the property, 1717 01:36:57,215 --> 01:36:59,935 Speaker 6: you'd want to make sure that that defective title was 1718 01:37:00,095 --> 01:37:05,615 Speaker 6: updated by the vendor prior to settlement because you don't 1719 01:37:05,655 --> 01:37:09,055 Speaker 6: want the cost of that, okay, unless you take the 1720 01:37:09,175 --> 01:37:11,655 Speaker 6: risk that you want to purchase, and then you'll do 1721 01:37:11,775 --> 01:37:14,855 Speaker 6: it and that the price is reflective on that. But 1722 01:37:14,895 --> 01:37:17,695 Speaker 6: I and to be fair, I used to have that 1723 01:37:17,735 --> 01:37:20,375 Speaker 6: attitude that, you know, take the risk, purchase the property 1724 01:37:20,375 --> 01:37:23,695 Speaker 6: and sort it out. And I think now I've shifted 1725 01:37:23,695 --> 01:37:26,935 Speaker 6: my thinking to go, actually, you know what, if there's 1726 01:37:26,975 --> 01:37:29,775 Speaker 6: a building that doesn't ever CECC or a defective title, 1727 01:37:29,935 --> 01:37:35,135 Speaker 6: make sure that the vendor sorts it out before settlement, right, 1728 01:37:35,175 --> 01:37:35,855 Speaker 6: Why would. 1729 01:37:35,615 --> 01:37:36,295 Speaker 4: You take the risk? 1730 01:37:37,855 --> 01:37:38,215 Speaker 18: Yeah? 1731 01:37:38,335 --> 01:37:39,695 Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely definitely. 1732 01:37:39,735 --> 01:37:43,095 Speaker 24: Like the other option was to it was to potentially 1733 01:37:43,575 --> 01:37:48,335 Speaker 24: take the sewing room down, but it's such a cool room. 1734 01:37:49,015 --> 01:37:51,375 Speaker 24: It's all out like it's a great work from home 1735 01:37:51,415 --> 01:37:55,455 Speaker 24: space because it's basically it looks like a glorified shed 1736 01:37:55,495 --> 01:37:56,735 Speaker 24: that's got a window and everything. 1737 01:37:57,895 --> 01:38:03,055 Speaker 6: Look, I can see the benefits of it. Absolutely yeah wow. 1738 01:38:02,855 --> 01:38:04,815 Speaker 20: But yeah, twenty grand for that much? 1739 01:38:04,975 --> 01:38:08,655 Speaker 6: Well look and I you know, maybe I'm I'm maybe 1740 01:38:08,655 --> 01:38:11,615 Speaker 6: that was for something way more complicated, but certainly as 1741 01:38:11,695 --> 01:38:14,455 Speaker 6: part of your due diligence, you'd want to go out 1742 01:38:14,775 --> 01:38:17,135 Speaker 6: and get some pricing. And typically it is it's a 1743 01:38:17,175 --> 01:38:18,775 Speaker 6: surveyor that does the work. 1744 01:38:20,415 --> 01:38:20,655 Speaker 24: Right. 1745 01:38:20,695 --> 01:38:26,255 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, good luck, cool Laura, Then all the best 1746 01:38:26,655 --> 01:38:30,335 Speaker 6: your news talks be it's just gone twenty minutes after eight. 1747 01:38:30,735 --> 01:38:34,575 Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. 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Hello, Hello there, kay, Brian. 1772 01:40:01,135 --> 01:40:03,775 Speaker 23: I was just listening to your program earlier and a 1773 01:40:03,855 --> 01:40:08,375 Speaker 23: lady rang up about a the house that has testus 1774 01:40:08,375 --> 01:40:13,335 Speaker 23: clouding on the outside possibly has yes, it possibly has. Well. 1775 01:40:13,375 --> 01:40:15,815 Speaker 23: I'm in the same sort of situation from the point 1776 01:40:15,815 --> 01:40:18,695 Speaker 23: of view that I bought a rental property just after 1777 01:40:18,735 --> 01:40:23,055 Speaker 23: the earthquakes in christ Church and basically rented it out. 1778 01:40:23,135 --> 01:40:26,695 Speaker 23: It's been rented out for years now. We're in the 1779 01:40:26,735 --> 01:40:29,575 Speaker 23: process of doing it up with and one thing that's 1780 01:40:29,575 --> 01:40:32,535 Speaker 23: been brought to our attention is that the outside clouding 1781 01:40:33,535 --> 01:40:38,855 Speaker 23: is possibly absbestos. Now my question is does that actually 1782 01:40:38,975 --> 01:40:40,895 Speaker 23: I mean, it doesn't affect anybody in the home or 1783 01:40:40,935 --> 01:40:41,495 Speaker 23: anything like that. 1784 01:40:43,415 --> 01:40:43,815 Speaker 8: Does that. 1785 01:40:45,615 --> 01:40:48,295 Speaker 23: Well, does it have to be replaced or no? Can 1786 01:40:48,335 --> 01:40:48,975 Speaker 23: you just no? 1787 01:40:49,575 --> 01:40:52,175 Speaker 6: Simple answer is no to the best of my knowledge. 1788 01:40:52,215 --> 01:40:54,975 Speaker 6: So you know, what we're concerned about is that when 1789 01:40:55,335 --> 01:40:58,055 Speaker 6: when people alter or adjust that, you know, if you 1790 01:40:58,175 --> 01:41:00,455 Speaker 6: drill it or cut it or grind it or send 1791 01:41:00,495 --> 01:41:03,215 Speaker 6: it or something like that, then it's a health risk, right, 1792 01:41:03,255 --> 01:41:04,095 Speaker 6: and a serious one. 1793 01:41:04,975 --> 01:41:06,295 Speaker 23: Yes, that's how I sort of understood. 1794 01:41:06,775 --> 01:41:09,695 Speaker 6: But if if it's if it's there and it's intact, 1795 01:41:09,935 --> 01:41:12,055 Speaker 6: and you know, you need to be a bit cautious. 1796 01:41:12,055 --> 01:41:15,855 Speaker 6: For example, when you're if you clean it and want 1797 01:41:15,895 --> 01:41:18,295 Speaker 6: to repaint it, then you don't want to be water 1798 01:41:18,335 --> 01:41:20,855 Speaker 6: blasting it. You can wash it to a chemical wash 1799 01:41:20,895 --> 01:41:23,375 Speaker 6: and apply another code of paint over it, those sorts 1800 01:41:23,375 --> 01:41:27,655 Speaker 6: of things, but there's no requirement to replace it. 1801 01:41:28,895 --> 01:41:30,815 Speaker 23: No, That's that's what That's where I wondered. 1802 01:41:30,775 --> 01:41:36,095 Speaker 6: Like, it's it's low risk, right, Yes, the riskers when 1803 01:41:36,135 --> 01:41:39,815 Speaker 6: you expec when you you break it, cut it, grind it, 1804 01:41:40,095 --> 01:41:43,335 Speaker 6: and you expose the fibers and the fibers become friable 1805 01:41:43,415 --> 01:41:46,055 Speaker 6: or airborne. That's when the risks, and that's what you 1806 01:41:46,135 --> 01:41:46,975 Speaker 6: have to manage. 1807 01:41:48,295 --> 01:41:50,655 Speaker 23: Yes, So if we threw a code of paint over it, 1808 01:41:51,655 --> 01:41:55,295 Speaker 23: absolutely fine, it's fine. Yeah, it's really all I need, 1809 01:41:55,415 --> 01:41:56,975 Speaker 23: you know, because we're going to the place of further 1810 01:41:57,015 --> 01:41:57,535 Speaker 23: paint job. 1811 01:41:57,655 --> 01:41:57,855 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1812 01:41:57,895 --> 01:42:00,455 Speaker 6: Look, wash it gently, like you know, use a chemical 1813 01:42:00,535 --> 01:42:04,055 Speaker 6: treatment on it, wash it, rinse it off, and then 1814 01:42:04,295 --> 01:42:06,855 Speaker 6: when it's dry, apply your primary, apply top coat and 1815 01:42:06,855 --> 01:42:07,335 Speaker 6: where you go. 1816 01:42:08,855 --> 01:42:11,695 Speaker 23: Gotcha all the best, Thank you very much. 1817 01:42:11,895 --> 01:42:17,295 Speaker 6: Take care see that. And Cheryl, hello there, how you 1818 01:42:17,335 --> 01:42:18,215 Speaker 6: do it very well? 1819 01:42:18,295 --> 01:42:21,015 Speaker 13: Thank you. Just to thank you to start off that. 1820 01:42:21,095 --> 01:42:23,775 Speaker 13: I actually then a few months ago, just as regards 1821 01:42:23,815 --> 01:42:26,335 Speaker 13: to my sense, just to put a covering over because 1822 01:42:26,335 --> 01:42:29,455 Speaker 13: someone complained about my dog's bagging. So I did the 1823 01:42:29,575 --> 01:42:31,495 Speaker 13: advocated thing and it looks great. 1824 01:42:31,255 --> 01:42:32,775 Speaker 4: So thank you for that pleasure. 1825 01:42:33,335 --> 01:42:35,935 Speaker 13: Look, I've got it so where I am a lot 1826 01:42:35,935 --> 01:42:37,655 Speaker 13: of people have been doing there. So we've got all 1827 01:42:37,655 --> 01:42:40,295 Speaker 13: these sheds and things. So I've got a so called 1828 01:42:40,375 --> 01:42:43,975 Speaker 13: shed or a separate shed on the back of my property, 1829 01:42:44,055 --> 01:42:47,455 Speaker 13: so it is separate. I have tanks, so I've got 1830 01:42:47,455 --> 01:42:49,135 Speaker 13: a water you know, so I've got a water tank 1831 01:42:49,295 --> 01:42:52,095 Speaker 13: the thing for my water. I'm looking at converting the 1832 01:42:52,255 --> 01:42:55,335 Speaker 13: shed into something for future you know, possible retment like 1833 01:42:55,455 --> 01:43:00,575 Speaker 13: you know and coming for retard. But because of weird 1834 01:43:00,615 --> 01:43:03,495 Speaker 13: it is as well as the tanks and the water goes, 1835 01:43:03,575 --> 01:43:05,695 Speaker 13: you can actually hear it. So I'm wondering if you 1836 01:43:05,695 --> 01:43:08,095 Speaker 13: can't do it stuff sound putting it will actually stop 1837 01:43:08,175 --> 01:43:11,175 Speaker 13: that because I hadn't actually slipped out out there. And 1838 01:43:11,175 --> 01:43:13,815 Speaker 13: when the water goes, if the toilet blushes from my home, 1839 01:43:14,735 --> 01:43:15,655 Speaker 13: you can actually hear it. 1840 01:43:16,175 --> 01:43:21,015 Speaker 6: So so it's probably the Is there a pump attached 1841 01:43:21,015 --> 01:43:23,015 Speaker 6: to the water tank and you can hear the pump? 1842 01:43:23,815 --> 01:43:28,175 Speaker 13: Okay, pump? Yeah, what's the distance between the house as well? 1843 01:43:28,495 --> 01:43:29,455 Speaker 6: Right, what's the distance? 1844 01:43:30,095 --> 01:43:33,015 Speaker 13: Actually the wall is that on the other side. So 1845 01:43:33,095 --> 01:43:35,615 Speaker 13: you've got the suits at the back, the pump's being 1846 01:43:35,695 --> 01:43:38,495 Speaker 13: put there, the sheds right next to where it is 1847 01:43:38,655 --> 01:43:42,695 Speaker 13: basically like a room next what's really. 1848 01:43:42,615 --> 01:43:46,095 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would probably look at isolating the sound from 1849 01:43:46,135 --> 01:43:50,495 Speaker 6: the pump, right, so you know, building a cover around 1850 01:43:50,495 --> 01:43:53,295 Speaker 6: the pump and maybe using something, you know, with an 1851 01:43:53,335 --> 01:43:57,855 Speaker 6: effective acoustic performance, like a something that's highly insulated or 1852 01:43:57,895 --> 01:44:04,375 Speaker 6: a freezer panel or something. Yeah, soundproof the pump. Don't 1853 01:44:04,375 --> 01:44:07,655 Speaker 6: worry about trying to soundproof the house. Soundproof what's making 1854 01:44:07,695 --> 01:44:08,895 Speaker 6: the noise and that's the pump. 1855 01:44:09,135 --> 01:44:12,015 Speaker 13: Yeah, well it's a shed I'm thinking about because if 1856 01:44:12,015 --> 01:44:14,975 Speaker 13: I convert it, you can hear that every time. Yeah, 1857 01:44:15,175 --> 01:44:17,135 Speaker 13: because of the punt and working through to the house 1858 01:44:17,175 --> 01:44:19,055 Speaker 13: as well when the water's juiced in the house. 1859 01:44:19,135 --> 01:44:20,055 Speaker 4: Yes, near the punt. 1860 01:44:20,415 --> 01:44:20,535 Speaker 13: Yea. 1861 01:44:21,375 --> 01:44:25,815 Speaker 6: I will try sound the pump. Yes, I've got to go. 1862 01:44:25,975 --> 01:44:28,495 Speaker 6: But the other thing about, you know, converting the shed 1863 01:44:28,615 --> 01:44:31,535 Speaker 6: is that if if it was built as a shed 1864 01:44:31,575 --> 01:44:33,855 Speaker 6: and it was never designed to be a habitable space, 1865 01:44:35,655 --> 01:44:38,215 Speaker 6: it will need a building consent for the upgrade. Right, 1866 01:44:38,255 --> 01:44:42,135 Speaker 6: So you have to prove compliance with a building code, 1867 01:44:43,015 --> 01:44:46,095 Speaker 6: especially if you're then going to essentially commercialize it and 1868 01:44:46,175 --> 01:44:49,175 Speaker 6: have it as a rental property. It needs to comply 1869 01:44:49,255 --> 01:44:51,855 Speaker 6: with the building code, and so any work that you 1870 01:44:52,015 --> 01:44:56,135 Speaker 6: do would require a building consent. Right he Oh, let's 1871 01:44:56,215 --> 01:44:59,375 Speaker 6: jump into the garden. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1872 01:44:59,415 --> 01:45:02,535 Speaker 6: If you've got a question, Ford, He'll be available straight 1873 01:45:02,575 --> 01:45:03,855 Speaker 6: after the break good. 1874 01:45:03,975 --> 01:45:07,455 Speaker 1: Met it God was, but it may be called Pete First. 1875 01:45:07,495 --> 01:45:11,455 Speaker 1: Peter wolf Camp, The Resident Builder. News Talk SeeDB. For 1876 01:45:11,575 --> 01:45:14,695 Speaker 1: more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen live 1877 01:45:14,775 --> 01:45:17,615 Speaker 1: to News Talk SETB on Sunday mornings from six, or 1878 01:45:17,655 --> 01:45:19,615 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio