1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,067 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB, New. 3 00:00:13,027 --> 00:00:17,347 Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby Women's High Performance Pathways Manager and member of 4 00:00:17,387 --> 00:00:19,827 Speaker 2: the New Zealand Order of Merit for services to rugby 5 00:00:19,867 --> 00:00:22,987 Speaker 2: Kendra cockxedge to preview this one for us, Kendrack, can 6 00:00:23,027 --> 00:00:25,627 Speaker 2: we start with the Blues firm favorites? You'd have to 7 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:29,867 Speaker 2: say five wins from six in the regular season home advantage. 8 00:00:30,267 --> 00:00:32,907 Speaker 2: What have been the main reasons for the Blues success 9 00:00:32,987 --> 00:00:34,147 Speaker 2: up to this point this season? 10 00:00:35,307 --> 00:00:38,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Blues are a classy side. You know, 11 00:00:38,227 --> 00:00:41,587 Speaker 3: they've got really talented athletes across the across the board 12 00:00:41,587 --> 00:00:44,067 Speaker 3: for one, probably to thirty in terms of their whole squad, 13 00:00:44,787 --> 00:00:47,427 Speaker 3: the type of footy that they're playing, their attacking style 14 00:00:47,467 --> 00:00:50,947 Speaker 3: in terms of playing on top and teams probably allowing 15 00:00:50,987 --> 00:00:53,627 Speaker 3: them to do that, and then just ability to be 16 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:56,187 Speaker 3: able to if someone might push a w then outline 17 00:00:56,227 --> 00:00:59,187 Speaker 3: and Braxton Charnson mcgah, who's a young girl coming through 18 00:00:59,747 --> 00:01:02,267 Speaker 3: to be able to finish those opportunities off a. 19 00:01:02,227 --> 00:01:06,107 Speaker 2: Bit further on, how integral to their success has Hey DeMont. 20 00:01:07,867 --> 00:01:10,227 Speaker 3: We know what sher brains right, like her leadership and 21 00:01:10,267 --> 00:01:14,387 Speaker 3: her experiences is outstanding. And you know, we've seen what 22 00:01:14,427 --> 00:01:16,347 Speaker 3: she can do in the Black Jersey too, and you 23 00:01:16,347 --> 00:01:17,867 Speaker 3: know when she's playing and she's on the top of 24 00:01:17,867 --> 00:01:20,147 Speaker 3: her game and she controls, it's but it's women hard 25 00:01:20,187 --> 00:01:23,147 Speaker 3: to stop. So I think she's in plays an integral 26 00:01:23,187 --> 00:01:25,907 Speaker 3: part and I think you know, someone like her tonight 27 00:01:25,947 --> 00:01:29,107 Speaker 3: has an outstanding game. Must Ter two will struggle to 28 00:01:29,147 --> 00:01:30,387 Speaker 3: probably get into the game. 29 00:01:30,467 --> 00:01:32,667 Speaker 2: MUCHA two do know though, don't they? That they can 30 00:01:32,787 --> 00:01:35,507 Speaker 2: and have beaten the Blues, which they did in fun 31 00:01:35,587 --> 00:01:37,267 Speaker 2: at A just a couple of weeks ago. So how 32 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,907 Speaker 2: much confidence, first of all will they take from that? 33 00:01:41,027 --> 00:01:42,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you when you do get a one, 34 00:01:42,747 --> 00:01:45,067 Speaker 3: there's a there's an element of belief. So I think 35 00:01:45,147 --> 00:01:46,907 Speaker 3: they'll have a bit of belief now that they can 36 00:01:47,147 --> 00:01:49,587 Speaker 3: they can beat the Blues and they can win the competition, 37 00:01:49,667 --> 00:01:51,427 Speaker 3: and we know when it gets the final footy, it 38 00:01:51,427 --> 00:01:55,067 Speaker 3: becomes a whole different, different beast. Yet the Blues are 39 00:01:55,107 --> 00:01:58,027 Speaker 3: at home, but you know, the must To are sitting 40 00:01:58,027 --> 00:01:59,787 Speaker 3: in a position where you're the underdog and it's the 41 00:01:59,827 --> 00:02:02,747 Speaker 3: best the best place that you want to be. And 42 00:02:02,827 --> 00:02:05,467 Speaker 3: I think you know that. But Cardinal've progressed throughout the season. 43 00:02:06,067 --> 00:02:08,387 Speaker 3: They're I've probably got a team a team of like 44 00:02:08,467 --> 00:02:10,827 Speaker 3: rather than the team of individuals, a team of good 45 00:02:10,907 --> 00:02:13,547 Speaker 3: quality players, and it's each each week in week out. 46 00:02:13,547 --> 00:02:15,507 Speaker 3: It's been really hard to choose an outstanding player because 47 00:02:15,507 --> 00:02:18,427 Speaker 3: they're all playing as a group of players and as 48 00:02:18,427 --> 00:02:18,747 Speaker 3: a team. 49 00:02:18,947 --> 00:02:20,867 Speaker 2: I guess when you run your right down the teamless though, 50 00:02:21,067 --> 00:02:22,867 Speaker 2: and as you say, they are a true team, but 51 00:02:22,947 --> 00:02:26,027 Speaker 2: you naturally land on the lights of black ferns. Alana 52 00:02:26,067 --> 00:02:29,947 Speaker 2: Bremner Amy Doupless, do you feel as though they will 53 00:02:29,947 --> 00:02:32,627 Speaker 2: be particularly important tonight for the Matatu. 54 00:02:33,507 --> 00:02:35,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, your leaders in the team and 55 00:02:35,827 --> 00:02:37,667 Speaker 3: your black fans, they do become important. You know, you 56 00:02:37,747 --> 00:02:40,587 Speaker 3: need your big players to make big plays, and you 57 00:02:40,627 --> 00:02:42,827 Speaker 3: know someone like Amy do as well especial she said 58 00:02:42,827 --> 00:02:45,467 Speaker 3: the outstanding season, So I know that she'll want to 59 00:02:45,507 --> 00:02:47,467 Speaker 3: kind of want to continue to carry that and a 60 00:02:47,547 --> 00:02:49,067 Speaker 3: line of prem in the way she kind of leads 61 00:02:49,107 --> 00:02:51,347 Speaker 3: in the grind she puts and you do kind of, 62 00:02:51,427 --> 00:02:53,507 Speaker 3: you know, probably lean on that a little bit, so 63 00:02:53,987 --> 00:02:56,147 Speaker 3: you know, and there's a lot of them across both teams. 64 00:02:56,627 --> 00:02:57,867 Speaker 3: So that's why I think it's going to be an 65 00:02:57,867 --> 00:03:01,267 Speaker 3: exciting match because it's just the number of black Ferns 66 00:03:01,267 --> 00:03:03,427 Speaker 3: and quality out players that are coming through across both 67 00:03:03,467 --> 00:03:04,907 Speaker 3: teams is really exciting. 68 00:03:05,067 --> 00:03:07,867 Speaker 2: And the winner of course will play Australia's Super W 69 00:03:08,027 --> 00:03:11,227 Speaker 2: champion their finals this afternoon in North Sydney reds war Atas. 70 00:03:11,707 --> 00:03:13,787 Speaker 2: How much of an extra carrot will that be for 71 00:03:13,827 --> 00:03:14,587 Speaker 2: these two teams? 72 00:03:15,387 --> 00:03:17,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a cooler aage of carrot. Obviously, 73 00:03:17,387 --> 00:03:19,507 Speaker 3: it's it's new, it's the first time being done and 74 00:03:19,507 --> 00:03:21,147 Speaker 3: it's going to be great to be able to see 75 00:03:21,147 --> 00:03:24,067 Speaker 3: that crossover match get get played. And I think, you know, 76 00:03:24,187 --> 00:03:26,387 Speaker 3: like it's going to be a pretty short turnaround from 77 00:03:26,387 --> 00:03:29,907 Speaker 3: Sunday to Thursday in terms of the kickoff, but I 78 00:03:29,947 --> 00:03:31,627 Speaker 3: think there'll be a little bit of a carrot there 79 00:03:31,627 --> 00:03:34,107 Speaker 3: to want so one you know when when when you 80 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:35,947 Speaker 3: know when you're in competition in country and then go 81 00:03:36,067 --> 00:03:39,227 Speaker 3: and hopefully top of a team from a different country. 82 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:42,027 Speaker 2: So this game takes center stage at Eden Park tonight, 83 00:03:42,107 --> 00:03:44,707 Speaker 2: the Blues against Miner PACIFICA in the early game and 84 00:03:44,747 --> 00:03:47,827 Speaker 2: Super Rugby Pacific. What are you hoping for in terms 85 00:03:47,867 --> 00:03:50,307 Speaker 2: of a crowd and and and those who will maybe 86 00:03:50,307 --> 00:03:53,627 Speaker 2: come along to watch the Blues Minor Pacifica and hang 87 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,427 Speaker 2: around for the for the five past seven game. 88 00:03:56,187 --> 00:03:58,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what an exciting opportunity, right to be 89 00:03:58,467 --> 00:04:00,387 Speaker 3: on the main stage and then after what is going 90 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:02,907 Speaker 3: to be an epic match Elkland with Minor and the Blues. 91 00:04:02,947 --> 00:04:05,387 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, the having a prime time 92 00:04:05,507 --> 00:04:07,787 Speaker 3: is you know, usually kind of stuck in the afternoon 93 00:04:07,827 --> 00:04:10,027 Speaker 3: at the moment and people have club rugby and that's 94 00:04:10,027 --> 00:04:12,667 Speaker 3: all started now, so that's kind of people having to 95 00:04:12,667 --> 00:04:14,627 Speaker 3: make decisions and you have to go play club footy 96 00:04:14,667 --> 00:04:17,067 Speaker 3: and missing the action of Opaki. So I think having 97 00:04:17,107 --> 00:04:19,267 Speaker 3: it on the primetime gives them an opportunity for people 98 00:04:19,307 --> 00:04:22,147 Speaker 3: to get along and watch it. And I think, you know, 99 00:04:22,227 --> 00:04:24,067 Speaker 3: both both the games will be spectacles. 100 00:04:24,427 --> 00:04:27,227 Speaker 2: What do you see, Kendra as the evolution the natural 101 00:04:27,307 --> 00:04:29,627 Speaker 2: next bit of evolution for Super Rugby, Opicky, What have 102 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:32,387 Speaker 2: we had? We've had six rounds, so the four teams 103 00:04:32,387 --> 00:04:35,187 Speaker 2: each play each other three times. What would you like 104 00:04:35,227 --> 00:04:38,587 Speaker 2: to see in terms of expansion the longest season. What's 105 00:04:38,627 --> 00:04:40,347 Speaker 2: the ideal in the next few years. 106 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:43,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in the next year you'd want to 107 00:04:42,947 --> 00:04:46,587 Speaker 3: have been an expansion and then hopefully it's an opportunity 108 00:04:46,627 --> 00:04:48,147 Speaker 3: for it to be a bit for full time as 109 00:04:48,147 --> 00:04:50,787 Speaker 3: well for the players, so they're getting more time together 110 00:04:51,587 --> 00:04:53,827 Speaker 3: and we're seeing it across this year with certain teams. 111 00:04:53,867 --> 00:04:55,147 Speaker 3: The teams that have spend a bit more time to 112 00:04:55,187 --> 00:04:57,267 Speaker 3: get it tend to yell a bit more so as 113 00:04:57,307 --> 00:05:01,107 Speaker 3: an expense expanding the competition as well as going full time. 114 00:05:01,147 --> 00:05:02,827 Speaker 3: I wud up to see that down and down the track. 115 00:05:03,187 --> 00:05:05,747 Speaker 3: I think that'd be a great opportunity for these classes 116 00:05:05,787 --> 00:05:07,587 Speaker 3: that continue be able to play more rugby at a 117 00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:08,147 Speaker 3: high level. 118 00:05:08,187 --> 00:05:10,267 Speaker 2: One hundred percent and huge year for the Black Ferns. 119 00:05:10,307 --> 00:05:13,667 Speaker 2: Of course the World Cup in August and September. How 120 00:05:13,707 --> 00:05:16,867 Speaker 2: confident should we be that this team can emulate what 121 00:05:17,387 --> 00:05:19,227 Speaker 2: what your team did three years ago? 122 00:05:20,187 --> 00:05:22,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm back in there, you know, because 123 00:05:22,267 --> 00:05:23,987 Speaker 3: I've been part of a team that's done that. But 124 00:05:24,307 --> 00:05:27,347 Speaker 3: after watching this opake, we've definitely got the players to 125 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:29,427 Speaker 3: be able to win a World Cup on the world stage. 126 00:05:29,907 --> 00:05:33,387 Speaker 2: And also just this week you launched New Zealand Rugby 127 00:05:33,787 --> 00:05:36,987 Speaker 2: Next Ferns nationwide search for new rugby talent in a 128 00:05:37,027 --> 00:05:39,707 Speaker 2: bid to uncover some future players for the fifteens and 129 00:05:39,827 --> 00:05:43,147 Speaker 2: sevens programs. How confident. Are you can uncover a few 130 00:05:43,227 --> 00:05:44,947 Speaker 2: gems through through this program. 131 00:05:45,627 --> 00:05:48,107 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm really excited about this program. And it's such 132 00:05:48,107 --> 00:05:50,507 Speaker 3: a great opportunity to you know, to put the feelers 133 00:05:50,507 --> 00:05:52,827 Speaker 3: out there for athletes and you know they're not already 134 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:54,747 Speaker 3: I guess in our path play and we know the 135 00:05:54,787 --> 00:05:56,627 Speaker 3: power of that. We don't want it's already done with 136 00:05:56,667 --> 00:05:58,707 Speaker 3: the lights of a Kada b Kayla mckels who came 137 00:05:58,747 --> 00:06:01,507 Speaker 3: through Paul Shwartsman. I think even Gail Bortter was kind 138 00:06:01,547 --> 00:06:03,067 Speaker 3: of ordering the system in terms of a little bit 139 00:06:03,067 --> 00:06:05,387 Speaker 3: of rag player in the league and other sports too, 140 00:06:05,627 --> 00:06:07,787 Speaker 3: so for her, you know. So it has worked in 141 00:06:07,827 --> 00:06:09,387 Speaker 3: the past, so you know, we wanted to give it 142 00:06:09,427 --> 00:06:11,387 Speaker 3: a crack. It spend wanted over a decade since we've 143 00:06:11,667 --> 00:06:13,947 Speaker 3: We've done it, and I think it's just yeah, it's 144 00:06:13,947 --> 00:06:15,747 Speaker 3: course want people to come in and give it a go. 145 00:06:15,827 --> 00:06:17,507 Speaker 3: If you want to be an explecter and you've got 146 00:06:17,787 --> 00:06:20,067 Speaker 3: a bit of height, you've got some speed, or you 147 00:06:20,187 --> 00:06:23,107 Speaker 3: offer some real serious power, you know, we want to 148 00:06:23,147 --> 00:06:23,387 Speaker 3: see that. 149 00:06:23,707 --> 00:06:25,587 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to seeing the fruits of up all right, 150 00:06:25,627 --> 00:06:27,787 Speaker 2: are you willing to call it tonight Blues or Mata too? 151 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:33,707 Speaker 3: I've actually I've been I've been becking my probably my 152 00:06:33,827 --> 00:06:35,387 Speaker 3: heads the last few weeks, and I'm going to back 153 00:06:35,427 --> 00:06:37,187 Speaker 3: my heart this week and I'm gonna go with the 154 00:06:37,227 --> 00:06:39,067 Speaker 3: Buster two twelve and wonderful. 155 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:41,307 Speaker 2: Thanks Kendra, I really appreciate your time this afternon look 156 00:06:41,307 --> 00:06:43,067 Speaker 2: forward to our cracking game tonight at Eaton Park. 157 00:06:43,907 --> 00:06:46,827 Speaker 1: All Right, thank you for more from Weekend Sport with 158 00:06:47,027 --> 00:06:51,107 Speaker 1: Jason Fine. 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