WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 192: Celebrating the weekend's success 0:00:09.133 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said b 0:00:12.413 --> 0:00:18.813 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on Iheartradiot. 0:00:19.213 --> 0:00:19.613 Take another. 0:00:21.213 --> 0:00:21.933 It's your trick. 0:00:22.533 --> 0:00:24.213 It is out, the Test is over. 0:00:26.453 --> 0:00:28.773 Couldn't a smoke? Oh wow, there was a beauty. It 0:00:28.893 --> 0:00:30.813 is out and hearing guys. 0:00:30.893 --> 0:00:32.453 Just delivery has inn. 0:00:32.453 --> 0:00:37.773 Used the bowl On the front Foot with Brian Waddell 0:00:37.893 --> 0:00:42.213 and Jeremy Cody, powered by News Talks dead b at 0:00:42.293 --> 0:00:43.733 iHeart Radio. 0:00:46.293 --> 0:00:48.213 Hello, it's great to be on the front foot with 0:00:48.333 --> 0:00:51.533 you again. A weekend from heaven for cricket lovers. I 0:00:51.613 --> 0:00:55.733 went over India in their backyard, against all expectations. I 0:00:55.853 --> 0:00:58.533 kept that off while many people slipped. The White Ferns 0:00:58.613 --> 0:01:02.093 completed victory in the World T twenty Championship in Dubai. 0:01:02.613 --> 0:01:07.133 Wonderful moments for New Zealand cricket, thirty six years since 0:01:07.133 --> 0:01:11.133 the last one and nineteen eighty eight. I was doing 0:01:11.173 --> 0:01:13.973 commentary during that Test match with a guy who played 0:01:14.333 --> 0:01:19.173 cricket for New Zealand previously, and he deserted the commentary 0:01:19.173 --> 0:01:24.613 box in the game previously at Bangalore. I was left 0:01:24.613 --> 0:01:26.173 to do it all on my own. I don't know 0:01:26.213 --> 0:01:29.053 what happened to him, but I think he surfaced after there. 0:01:29.733 --> 0:01:31.653 You remember him, Jerry, Do you know who it was? 0:01:32.213 --> 0:01:39.933 I remember changing from my civies into one of the 0:01:39.973 --> 0:01:46.333 New Zealand players his trousers because they fit me and 0:01:46.413 --> 0:01:47.813 I was pressed into action. 0:01:48.173 --> 0:01:48.333 You. 0:01:48.893 --> 0:01:53.533 I also remember a fellow commentator rather disappointed that the 0:01:53.573 --> 0:01:56.093 opportunity to get onto the field was the rest of 0:01:56.133 --> 0:01:59.973 the New Zealand players who were fit at the time, 0:02:01.573 --> 0:02:05.413 and listening to various team talks and so on. 0:02:05.973 --> 0:02:08.333 You remember that too, was don't you. 0:02:08.413 --> 0:02:09.493 Yeah he was crying. 0:02:10.333 --> 0:02:16.693 Yeah, yes he was, Yes he was little face gasp. Yeah. 0:02:16.853 --> 0:02:20.173 Bangalore, nineteen eighty eight, when the New Zealand side was 0:02:20.213 --> 0:02:23.413 beaten by India. They've been taken ill and that's why 0:02:23.493 --> 0:02:26.293 Jeremy Coney was out on the park. I never got there. 0:02:26.333 --> 0:02:29.373 But the next Test was a real turnaround in Mumbai 0:02:29.813 --> 0:02:32.853 and they won it. The last time we've beaten India 0:02:33.493 --> 0:02:38.133 in India was a remarkable achievement. Peter Holland as well 0:02:38.173 --> 0:02:43.133 as again and the Test match that they've just won, well, 0:02:43.373 --> 0:02:45.133 it was the sort of performance we want to see 0:02:45.173 --> 0:02:49.053 from a New Zealand side, wasn't it. They'd learned many 0:02:49.053 --> 0:02:52.173 of the lessons from the embarrassing defeats in Sri Lanka. 0:02:53.053 --> 0:02:57.133 No question was and a good day to you and 0:02:57.253 --> 0:03:00.933 Jerry Well I've written down here in my notes. Test 0:03:01.013 --> 0:03:05.373 match wonderful, fabulous, the ebbs and flows when you look 0:03:05.373 --> 0:03:08.853 at the scoreboard where it says forty six one hundred 0:03:08.933 --> 0:03:13.333 plus and then four hundred plus from India, and then 0:03:13.453 --> 0:03:16.453 then there's the jeopardy of the of the of the 0:03:16.493 --> 0:03:20.413 fourth innings that New Zealand's got to play, and being 0:03:20.413 --> 0:03:24.013 a New Zealand follower for so long one feared the 0:03:24.013 --> 0:03:29.533 worst and intrepidations and being the utter coward that I am, Brian, 0:03:30.173 --> 0:03:33.453 I can't watch that, so I have to I have 0:03:33.533 --> 0:03:35.453 to walk away and go into the garden, if you 0:03:35.493 --> 0:03:38.773 know what I mean, because I'll be bad luck. But no, 0:03:38.933 --> 0:03:41.013 a wonderful Test match, and I think it brought out 0:03:41.013 --> 0:03:44.453 a lot of things that perhaps we had been looking for, 0:03:45.093 --> 0:03:47.533 not least of which that actually had some match time, 0:03:47.973 --> 0:03:51.613 albeit not very well performed in Sri Lanka. But they 0:03:51.653 --> 0:03:55.013 looked a lot more match hardened to my mind. 0:03:55.613 --> 0:03:58.333 Very important that and they won a toss which I 0:03:58.333 --> 0:04:01.333 think was significant. Latham said he would have been well, 0:04:01.453 --> 0:04:05.613 that might have been trouble but Henry and O'Rourke. Was 0:04:05.613 --> 0:04:08.493 there ever an indication of where was Henry drew the 0:04:08.493 --> 0:04:13.893 Sherilankan testaments. Surely that was answered by his performance in Bangalore, 0:04:13.973 --> 0:04:14.333 wasn't it. 0:04:15.133 --> 0:04:16.053 I was a lot. 0:04:16.333 --> 0:04:19.333 You know, a lot of people who follow cricket will 0:04:19.333 --> 0:04:23.613 have been nonplussed at the non selection of Henry. I 0:04:23.613 --> 0:04:28.013 think everybody kind of understood why because he was going 0:04:28.053 --> 0:04:31.173 to take the position of the captain and that makes 0:04:31.213 --> 0:04:35.653 it a bit more awkward for the selectors. Nevertheless, New 0:04:35.773 --> 0:04:39.053 Zealand are a better side when he's in the playing eleven. 0:04:39.093 --> 0:04:42.173 We've just got to accept that and move on from 0:04:42.213 --> 0:04:46.133 those other issues, no matter how difficult they are, particularly 0:04:46.813 --> 0:04:50.373 when the situation says that the conditions of the game 0:04:50.453 --> 0:04:52.893 are going to suit someone like Matt Henry. 0:04:53.333 --> 0:04:54.893 I think we should just dwell. 0:04:54.653 --> 0:04:58.733 If we could on the toss a little bit, because 0:05:00.053 --> 0:05:04.453 clearly it played a very major role in the way 0:05:04.493 --> 0:05:07.813 that New Zealand were able to construct a win from 0:05:07.813 --> 0:05:12.653 this game. I think the decision if you won the 0:05:12.733 --> 0:05:17.013 toss held very high consequences. Both of the captains would 0:05:17.013 --> 0:05:21.133 have got it wrong. Both sides wanted to bat, and 0:05:21.173 --> 0:05:25.533 that just indicates how strong the history in India of 0:05:25.653 --> 0:05:29.253 pictures deteriorating throughout the match and over the course of 0:05:29.293 --> 0:05:32.573 the match and the result of the match because of it. 0:05:33.013 --> 0:05:35.253 The history says you bat first, you bat first. 0:05:35.293 --> 0:05:37.973 It's very ossy in that kind of sense. You know, 0:05:38.013 --> 0:05:40.293 you're about nine times and on the tenth time you're 0:05:40.293 --> 0:05:44.693 bat The fact of it is they said that you 0:05:44.773 --> 0:05:49.853 shalt bat, but the present conditions said you must bowl. 0:05:50.093 --> 0:05:55.973 You know, four or five days undercovers with rain, dank, 0:05:56.413 --> 0:05:59.253 thick cloud covering lights on. 0:06:00.373 --> 0:06:01.173 That says bowl. 0:06:02.653 --> 0:06:05.213 It also says you got to do it quite quickly 0:06:05.253 --> 0:06:08.733 and grab the opportunity. That's what New Zealand did well. 0:06:09.173 --> 0:06:12.653 Even right Chama said it might be sticky. Well it 0:06:12.733 --> 0:06:17.373 certainly was, and New Zealand were good enough to grab that, 0:06:17.613 --> 0:06:18.933 you know, grab the nettle. 0:06:19.693 --> 0:06:19.973 You know. 0:06:20.293 --> 0:06:23.933 They also forgot both captains. I felt the way to 0:06:24.013 --> 0:06:26.693 win a four day game with the first day reigned 0:06:26.733 --> 0:06:31.453 out is to bat once and bat well, and usually 0:06:31.493 --> 0:06:35.213 you bat second. Now that was perfect for the situation 0:06:35.413 --> 0:06:42.253 confronting both captains at Bengaluru. To supply rest to your bowlers, 0:06:42.573 --> 0:06:46.493 you bowl first, you then bat once and bat well, 0:06:47.333 --> 0:06:50.693 and then you give the bowlers a rest and then. 0:06:50.573 --> 0:06:51.293 You bat again. 0:06:51.373 --> 0:06:54.773 And that's kind of what happened, except obviously India came 0:06:54.813 --> 0:06:56.933 back into the game a bit more on that third innings, 0:06:57.293 --> 0:06:59.493 but New Zealand grabbed it. They bowled well, as you 0:06:59.573 --> 0:07:06.053 say O'Rourke, Henry. They held for a change almost one 0:07:06.133 --> 0:07:09.333 hundred percent of their capture some good ones too, and 0:07:09.373 --> 0:07:12.933 we can go into that a bit later. So and 0:07:13.013 --> 0:07:15.253 then they not only did that, was they got then 0:07:15.293 --> 0:07:19.053 a lead of three hundred and fifty six, which put 0:07:19.133 --> 0:07:21.293 them in the box seat and left India. 0:07:21.053 --> 0:07:21.973 So far behind. 0:07:22.893 --> 0:07:25.213 They had to not only get five hundred and fifty 0:07:26.093 --> 0:07:28.973 that's the three fifty in debit plus two hundred if 0:07:29.013 --> 0:07:31.813 they could and scored them at a very high rate, 0:07:32.173 --> 0:07:35.133 which they did. But New Zealand just nipped them in 0:07:35.173 --> 0:07:36.013 the bud at the end. 0:07:37.013 --> 0:07:40.413 But can I just add, I think coming into this 0:07:40.613 --> 0:07:44.133 India and you've got the sense from rowhit that despite 0:07:44.173 --> 0:07:48.453 there was concerns about batting first based on the form 0:07:48.493 --> 0:07:53.413 coming in where they'd absolutely flogged Bangladesh and we we 0:07:53.813 --> 0:07:58.213 were somewhat not at our best in Sri Lanka, that 0:07:58.253 --> 0:08:02.213 they would still carry through and I think that makes 0:08:02.253 --> 0:08:05.013 the win even more pleasing for New Zealand that they 0:08:05.653 --> 0:08:08.053 they overcame that and there was a degree of shall 0:08:08.053 --> 0:08:11.693 we see, we'll just brush you aside anyway From India, 0:08:11.773 --> 0:08:12.733 I've got the sense of. 0:08:13.173 --> 0:08:15.893 Vague arrogance, yeah, touch of arrogance. 0:08:16.373 --> 0:08:20.053 Yeah, but you know what justify we sob if I'm 0:08:20.093 --> 0:08:25.253 probably in their issues yep, but well played New Zealand Revender. 0:08:25.413 --> 0:08:29.453 Class what class judgment of length wds for me? For 0:08:30.013 --> 0:08:33.493 Ratchen one of the best I've witnessed actually by New 0:08:33.573 --> 0:08:36.813 Zealand batsmen. Maybe the fact that they were bowling between 0:08:36.893 --> 0:08:39.453 ninety one and ninety four k, which is tough, you know, 0:08:40.213 --> 0:08:43.453 quick and tough, but it does help you because you 0:08:43.493 --> 0:08:45.373 can't float the ball up and get it to dip 0:08:45.493 --> 0:08:50.613 quite so much. But nevertheless, as a batsman, it buys 0:08:50.653 --> 0:08:53.453 you time. If you can see where the length is 0:08:53.533 --> 0:08:56.733 going to land early, it buys your time to get 0:08:56.773 --> 0:08:59.853 forward and get close to it, or if it's shorter 0:09:00.333 --> 0:09:03.293 to go back and either you know, get you know 0:09:03.573 --> 0:09:08.293 and revendra. The other aspect I felt about is bat 0:09:08.733 --> 0:09:12.813 was if he went forward he could hit anywhere between 0:09:12.973 --> 0:09:16.853 square cover to cover to extra cover to long off 0:09:17.213 --> 0:09:21.293 to wide long on from the same place where it 0:09:21.373 --> 0:09:25.253 hit the pitch. Now, imagine that is a bowler. Imagine 0:09:25.253 --> 0:09:28.933 that as a captain. You know, your setting of your 0:09:29.053 --> 0:09:33.733 field suddenly becomes a hell of a difficult And so 0:09:33.893 --> 0:09:38.413 he scored very quickly. And that's another benefit of being 0:09:38.453 --> 0:09:41.413 able to see the length. But he is an absolute 0:09:41.453 --> 0:09:46.773 class his wrists when he attacks like high tensile things. 0:09:46.773 --> 0:09:52.133 Something happened during the burst and honestly earns him his 0:09:52.253 --> 0:09:55.973 new TV. His wrists do it earns him his pool 0:09:56.053 --> 0:10:01.253 in the back garden, because that's how much money he 0:10:01.373 --> 0:10:04.253 will get from those powerful risks and being able to 0:10:04.253 --> 0:10:04.933 play the way. 0:10:04.773 --> 0:10:08.053 He did, he plays the quicks very well. Yeah, he 0:10:08.053 --> 0:10:11.093 looks assured against as best you could be against Boomera. 0:10:11.493 --> 0:10:14.933 Contrast Conway say, but no, I just think it's a 0:10:14.973 --> 0:10:18.973 spot work. He doesn't look flustered, he doesn't look ruffled, 0:10:19.013 --> 0:10:22.773 he looks at ease and he's comfortable in his own skin. 0:10:22.573 --> 0:10:26.773 I think he's an absolute revelation and the fact that 0:10:26.813 --> 0:10:31.093 he is committing himself to play Test cricket is something 0:10:31.133 --> 0:10:33.453 that we should all be thankful for and admire of 0:10:33.533 --> 0:10:37.053 him to go that way which he has done. 0:10:37.293 --> 0:10:39.573 Put it this way, India will go away from this 0:10:39.733 --> 0:10:42.933 Test and their spinners will be for the first time 0:10:42.973 --> 0:10:47.133 against New Zealand concerned. They will certainly talk a lot 0:10:47.173 --> 0:10:49.293 about him for the next Test. 0:10:50.333 --> 0:10:52.813 Yes, indeed, he certainly the man of the match. Well, 0:10:52.853 --> 0:10:56.133 the other player who impressed me was will Young. He 0:10:56.173 --> 0:11:00.053 looks organized. We'd not seen beginnings from him yet, but 0:11:00.253 --> 0:11:02.653 when they're in trouble, they were under pressure, and that 0:11:02.733 --> 0:11:05.533 fourth innings he held the innings together and he and 0:11:05.573 --> 0:11:07.293 Rivendra took them to the victory. 0:11:07.893 --> 0:11:11.133 I think, well, Young is someone that I believe that 0:11:11.213 --> 0:11:13.493 a lot of us have been sort of thinking, how 0:11:13.533 --> 0:11:17.173 can you get him in there? And and he looked, 0:11:17.853 --> 0:11:24.813 he looked assured. His footwork was decisive, whereas I think 0:11:24.853 --> 0:11:28.093 Devon Conway, mind you, he did. Devon Conway at the 0:11:28.133 --> 0:11:31.613 other end did take most of Boomra in Boomera was 0:11:31.653 --> 0:11:35.653 hooping it around. Conways looked far less issued well as 0:11:35.653 --> 0:11:40.293 one probably would. But when when you were watching a 0:11:40.453 --> 0:11:44.693 young again, he got back, he got forward, He was decisive. 0:11:44.813 --> 0:11:49.813 I thought class innings and you know, Dan good number 0:11:49.813 --> 0:11:53.693 three for us. And if Williamson's not fit in the 0:11:53.693 --> 0:11:56.613 following Test, I don't think that's too much of a problem. 0:11:56.613 --> 0:11:57.693 We'd love to have him pause. 0:11:58.213 --> 0:12:00.533 Well, it does bring up that question, doesn't at once, 0:12:01.173 --> 0:12:05.853 about if Williamson is available for the next test in Poona, 0:12:08.413 --> 0:12:11.533 what in New Zealand going to do. They might opt 0:12:11.573 --> 0:12:16.253 to say, we'll give you another week of and we'll play. 0:12:16.293 --> 0:12:20.253 Perhaps you might the change you might make, you might 0:12:20.293 --> 0:12:24.493 put Young into open and Conway at three. I just 0:12:24.533 --> 0:12:26.853 want to also fly the flag of Conway for a 0:12:26.893 --> 0:12:30.973 second ninety one. Playing aggressively in the first innings where 0:12:30.973 --> 0:12:33.293 the pitch was much better and easier to play on 0:12:33.333 --> 0:12:37.133 than the last innings, up and down, variable bounce movement. 0:12:38.773 --> 0:12:42.413 Certainly he made it look more uncomfortable. We've all got 0:12:42.453 --> 0:12:46.973 to accept that. But he batted from twelve to thirteen 0:12:47.053 --> 0:12:50.773 overs and Moose is right. He took the majority of Boomra. 0:12:52.333 --> 0:12:54.613 He got a bit of luck. The ball was going 0:12:54.733 --> 0:12:56.853 up and down quite a lot to him. But he 0:12:56.933 --> 0:13:01.973 batted for thirteen overs and survived. And he saved the 0:13:02.053 --> 0:13:06.253 rest of the batting order by taking little blows and 0:13:06.333 --> 0:13:09.293 being beaten and hit on the hands, on the thighs 0:13:09.333 --> 0:13:13.253 and so on. It's a tough gig opening against Boomra, 0:13:13.973 --> 0:13:17.013 and so he did a hell of a job even 0:13:17.133 --> 0:13:19.093 just getting to seventeen, don't you agree? 0:13:19.493 --> 0:13:22.973 Oh, most definitely, And you know he did take a pounding. 0:13:23.053 --> 0:13:26.493 His hands are obviously a target for them at the 0:13:26.493 --> 0:13:29.533 moment because he's been hit so many times. Also, the 0:13:29.573 --> 0:13:33.053 game proved that when needed, Tim Soudy actually can bat 0:13:33.413 --> 0:13:35.853 and play an important role with the bat. Where's it 0:13:35.933 --> 0:13:38.493 been through the ten twelve years of his career? 0:13:39.053 --> 0:13:42.653 Yeah, that's that's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it 0:13:42.733 --> 0:13:46.213 that we all knew from even from his first innings 0:13:46.253 --> 0:13:49.173 when I think he got a seventy? Didn't he know 0:13:49.653 --> 0:13:54.773 the short side boundaries of McClain Park. But nevertheless, he 0:13:54.813 --> 0:13:58.013 could obviously hit a ball, and he's got a good 0:13:58.053 --> 0:14:03.493 hand eye coordination. And I don't know quite why the 0:14:03.573 --> 0:14:07.373 coaching staff and Saudi himself ultimately. 0:14:07.373 --> 0:14:10.573 Have treated his so frivolously. 0:14:10.933 --> 0:14:15.493 Since that time and just concentrated totally on his bowland 0:14:17.013 --> 0:14:22.413 I feel, and getting in love with hitting sixes. He 0:14:23.133 --> 0:14:27.013 did look awkward and like a little foal, you know, 0:14:27.133 --> 0:14:30.533 on feeble feet for a start when he batted, but 0:14:30.653 --> 0:14:34.813 he then against the spin particularly, he grew in stature 0:14:34.893 --> 0:14:38.333 and in confidence and started to hit down the ground 0:14:38.573 --> 0:14:41.333 and so on and played very well towards the end 0:14:41.413 --> 0:14:43.933 of his sixty odd runs that he had that partnership 0:14:43.933 --> 0:14:45.893 of one hundred and thirty odd with the Ravendra. 0:14:46.293 --> 0:14:49.253 So that was it because our middle order failed. 0:14:49.453 --> 0:14:56.613 Was that started the second morning, Mitchell, Blundell, Henry, you 0:14:56.653 --> 0:15:00.253 know they all actually got starts but couldn't go on 0:15:01.013 --> 0:15:04.253 when New Zealand wanted them to. This match was it 0:15:04.333 --> 0:15:07.973 was a lovely test match in terms of someone getting 0:15:08.013 --> 0:15:11.893 on top. Then a corner would arrive, a chicane you know, 0:15:11.973 --> 0:15:14.693 would arrive and you go round a corner and then 0:15:14.733 --> 0:15:17.093 suddenly one team would pick it up again. New Zealand 0:15:17.093 --> 0:15:19.653 getting four hundred and two and getting a lead. Then 0:15:19.773 --> 0:15:24.293 suddenly India say no, no, my boys, We're going to 0:15:24.333 --> 0:15:26.973 come at you like a rocket and New Zealand struggle. 0:15:28.053 --> 0:15:31.333 If they'd have got another eighty or ninety runs, would 0:15:31.333 --> 0:15:33.453 have been an interesting game, wouldn't it. 0:15:33.653 --> 0:15:35.493 Yeah, that would have been a challenge and a half. 0:15:35.653 --> 0:15:38.373 We've talked in the past about New Zealand's fielding and 0:15:38.413 --> 0:15:42.373 it's below standard in many of the tests of recent times. 0:15:42.533 --> 0:15:44.773 I don't think we could be a critical of their 0:15:44.813 --> 0:15:48.573 fielding and the catches they took in that first innings 0:15:48.573 --> 0:15:53.213 in particular after they'd lifted their game quite dramatically from 0:15:53.213 --> 0:15:54.293 what we saw in Sri Lanka. 0:15:55.013 --> 0:15:57.933 Came to the shape of the game, Brian Frankly, you 0:15:58.013 --> 0:16:00.173 pull off a couple of those catches and all of 0:16:00.213 --> 0:16:03.613 a sudden you're three for not many many and the 0:16:03.653 --> 0:16:07.933 pressures coming on and supported by catching, there's no question 0:16:07.973 --> 0:16:11.333 about that. And the ball was hooping around. 0:16:12.053 --> 0:16:16.093 No, well, it was New Zealand conditions, wasn't it really? 0:16:16.573 --> 0:16:21.813 And quite good ones. It was grippy, and you know 0:16:22.053 --> 0:16:25.853 the catching. Phillip's diving forward, wide leg slipped Coley goodbye, 0:16:26.733 --> 0:16:30.453 Conway hunting in for a single, got a bit close, 0:16:31.453 --> 0:16:35.573 an attempted cloth dry from sufferers, diving away to his 0:16:35.693 --> 0:16:38.333 right and the ball behind him one hand, good catch, 0:16:38.813 --> 0:16:45.013 Fortell backward point low catch smashed by Jasewell Court two 0:16:45.133 --> 0:16:48.573 handed Henry. After bowling that long goes to fine lead. 0:16:49.493 --> 0:16:52.573 A hook goes up from Boomra and he runs thirty 0:16:52.573 --> 0:16:54.613 five yards and sprawls on the ground and takes a 0:16:54.653 --> 0:16:58.253 two handed catch. Brilliant Bracewell just coming onto the field, 0:16:58.293 --> 0:17:01.973 hasn't been on long in the gully, left handed, one 0:17:02.013 --> 0:17:06.373 hand catch. To finish the inning of cooldeep. So those 0:17:06.453 --> 0:17:09.813 are examples of the way that you need to catch 0:17:09.813 --> 0:17:12.413 an international cricket to get yourselves in a good position. 0:17:13.773 --> 0:17:16.933 One of the points that disappointed me in the second 0:17:16.933 --> 0:17:22.133 innings was the length of the bowling, particularly to Saffras, 0:17:22.173 --> 0:17:23.933 who was allowed to play on the back foot, and 0:17:23.973 --> 0:17:27.053 he quite clearly liked playing on the back foot. And 0:17:27.453 --> 0:17:30.373 if they ever removed third man or backward point from 0:17:30.413 --> 0:17:33.133 the field to play, he'll get no runs. He scored 0:17:33.253 --> 0:17:35.573 half his runs in that area of the ground and 0:17:35.613 --> 0:17:37.333 he was fed the opportunity, wasn't he. 0:17:37.613 --> 0:17:41.133 I think actually with dear and I have spoken about 0:17:41.213 --> 0:17:45.133 him one. I think he's interesting, so we share. We 0:17:45.133 --> 0:17:49.253 say quirky is that the right word? Inventive player? And 0:17:49.333 --> 0:17:54.053 I suspect that New Zealand probably didn't quite know what 0:17:54.093 --> 0:17:55.933 they were coming up again, so they'll need to adjust. 0:17:55.973 --> 0:17:59.453 And I think you're right there, Brian, you take that 0:17:59.533 --> 0:18:01.533 shot out with a short third man and all that 0:18:01.573 --> 0:18:05.573 type of thing. But that was a fabulous innings. I've 0:18:05.613 --> 0:18:08.613 got to say I enjoyed watching that, watching him and 0:18:09.213 --> 0:18:12.333 play with such inventiveness, because hard to set a field 0:18:12.333 --> 0:18:18.053 to very much, and he and scores at pace and 0:18:18.173 --> 0:18:21.413 interesting when you're listening to the commentators that he apparently 0:18:21.413 --> 0:18:26.373 he scored truckloads of runs and domestic cricket and has 0:18:26.413 --> 0:18:30.253 earnt his way there. And I just think, breath the 0:18:30.253 --> 0:18:33.173 fresh air and quite wonderful. Interesting to see what Indy 0:18:33.253 --> 0:18:37.013 will do because I think he was replacing Gil and 0:18:37.053 --> 0:18:41.253 what what will happen now, Because when you've just gone 0:18:41.253 --> 0:18:45.053 out and smashed one hundred and fifty, it's pretty hard 0:18:45.053 --> 0:18:47.693 to drop you for Schuvar and Gil. Fine player though 0:18:47.693 --> 0:18:50.973 Gill is I will wait with interest. 0:18:51.653 --> 0:18:54.213 Interesting in Puno, which might turn a little bit more 0:18:54.733 --> 0:18:58.053 than this test. But you're right unconventional was wasn't He 0:18:59.533 --> 0:19:03.333 looks like a little small, muscular street fighter like old 0:19:03.413 --> 0:19:08.293 jar of me and Dad when we played great hand 0:19:08.413 --> 0:19:13.413 die coordination. You're right, only two runs down in what 0:19:13.453 --> 0:19:16.253 we would call the v long off and long on. 0:19:16.733 --> 0:19:18.453 So we did bowl a bit short, and we bowled 0:19:18.453 --> 0:19:22.013 certainly a bit wide, but we didn't react a to 0:19:22.093 --> 0:19:25.493 the bowlers, our bowlers changing things a bit and b 0:19:26.493 --> 0:19:29.653 the captain setting more. You might need two third men, 0:19:30.573 --> 0:19:32.973 you know. We need to be able to react quickly 0:19:33.413 --> 0:19:36.013 to someone like a suffaras I think we just can't 0:19:36.093 --> 0:19:39.133 keep going the way we are when it's not working. 0:19:39.573 --> 0:19:43.053 So I'm interested to see how someone like Sapparas goes 0:19:43.093 --> 0:19:45.493 in South Africa, where it's a bit more spicy to pitch, 0:19:46.173 --> 0:19:49.693 or New Zealand and England where it is greener, and 0:19:49.693 --> 0:19:51.893 perhaps Australia where there's a bit more bounce, although that 0:19:51.973 --> 0:19:54.333 might suit him as well. He likes bounce, but he's 0:19:54.333 --> 0:19:56.613 obviously got a hell of a good hand eye coordination. 0:19:57.853 --> 0:20:00.253 You mentioned Toune, we don't know too much about it. 0:20:00.333 --> 0:20:02.813 You mentioned the possibility of spin. Does that mean New 0:20:02.853 --> 0:20:05.173 Zealand has to make a change or do you go 0:20:05.253 --> 0:20:06.493 in with the same side. 0:20:08.773 --> 0:20:11.853 I think you've still got to go in with three 0:20:12.253 --> 0:20:17.053 quicker bowlers because I think that's what we're better at. 0:20:17.933 --> 0:20:21.093 Question whether that is South I think it will be 0:20:21.173 --> 0:20:23.493 now because of his success in his last test, but 0:20:23.533 --> 0:20:26.373 I think there's no question that it's Henry and O'Rourke. 0:20:27.333 --> 0:20:29.413 We hadn't really touched Oraq because I don't think you 0:20:29.493 --> 0:20:31.853 need to. It was just such a fabulous performance on 0:20:31.933 --> 0:20:35.133 both in the in both innings. 0:20:35.613 --> 0:20:36.533 But I. 0:20:38.093 --> 0:20:39.133 Don't think we have a choice. 0:20:39.373 --> 0:20:42.693 I think we still need to go in with Patel 0:20:43.013 --> 0:20:45.293 and I guess the alternative is Phillips because brace Will 0:20:45.373 --> 0:20:45.813 gone home. 0:20:46.573 --> 0:20:50.213 Yeah, that's that's the first point. We have reduced our 0:20:50.293 --> 0:20:55.173 spin options by Bracewall going home. It's the first thing. 0:20:55.573 --> 0:20:58.413 And I think he's probably our biggest spinner of a ball. 0:21:00.053 --> 0:21:02.253 I think that there are left handers in their order 0:21:02.333 --> 0:21:05.373 which would suit him as well. I think he offers 0:21:05.413 --> 0:21:07.973 some other aspects that we haven't got from some of 0:21:07.973 --> 0:21:11.093 the other spin is like very good catching and also 0:21:11.933 --> 0:21:14.293 you know at number eight, I think he offers that 0:21:14.333 --> 0:21:16.733 and gives a little bit little the option there is 0:21:16.733 --> 0:21:19.933 for you know, getting some runs. The second thing is 0:21:20.133 --> 0:21:26.653 Sody who's going over hasn't played, hasn't played, and that 0:21:26.733 --> 0:21:30.333 counts for a lot as we know. Secondly, Santna, we've 0:21:30.373 --> 0:21:33.333 seen how he goes and conditions where it turns. He's 0:21:33.373 --> 0:21:37.973 not really much a great wicket taker. So I think 0:21:38.013 --> 0:21:42.253 our third seema you're going to get more bowling and 0:21:42.333 --> 0:21:45.373 more pressure created if you set the right fields to 0:21:45.453 --> 0:21:49.173 a SOUVII than you are to a spinner. And I 0:21:49.213 --> 0:21:52.013 know it'll sound a bit odd because we've we've been 0:21:52.053 --> 0:21:55.173 a wee bit critical of Saudi, but you know, I 0:21:55.173 --> 0:21:59.453 think that gives us a stronger attack, more reliable attack 0:21:59.893 --> 0:22:03.773 than going in with two spinners plus as we did, 0:22:03.893 --> 0:22:05.413 as we did in Sri Lanka. 0:22:05.653 --> 0:22:09.373 Brian Waddle, Jeremy Cooney, Yes, on the front foot. 0:22:09.653 --> 0:22:13.493 You know, it's hard to decide which achievement rates highest, 0:22:13.493 --> 0:22:16.733 to win over India in India or a World T 0:22:16.733 --> 0:22:19.533 twenty title for the women. Is it fair to give 0:22:19.573 --> 0:22:22.733 them equal significance To be able to celebrate two great 0:22:22.773 --> 0:22:26.253 moments one day. I mean it makes it more enjoyable. 0:22:26.853 --> 0:22:31.093 Is one event or one achievement more important than the other, because. 0:22:30.853 --> 0:22:34.253 For me, no question, And I think I know where 0:22:34.253 --> 0:22:38.093 Iland T twenty world it's a World Cup, it's a 0:22:38.133 --> 0:22:40.213 World Cup, and they've struggled and. 0:22:40.173 --> 0:22:45.053 Where they've come from and where I think everyone's expectations were. 0:22:45.573 --> 0:22:50.933 It is a phenomenal achievement and wonderful that they've been 0:22:50.973 --> 0:22:53.773 able to pull this off of fabulous and you could 0:22:53.813 --> 0:22:57.493 see growth in the team in the period of the tournament, 0:22:58.333 --> 0:23:01.333 the win over South Africa and the lead up games 0:23:02.173 --> 0:23:05.173 and the development. They seem to be better organized, They 0:23:05.173 --> 0:23:07.293 seem to know what they wanted to do, like batting 0:23:07.333 --> 0:23:10.613 first seemed to be working for them, I think, no question. 0:23:11.253 --> 0:23:13.613 Despite the fact that the win in India in the 0:23:13.653 --> 0:23:18.933 Test match is phenomenal. The Women's World Cup twenty twenty 0:23:19.013 --> 0:23:22.973 when is a great thing for cricket and particularly the 0:23:22.973 --> 0:23:23.733 women's cricket. 0:23:24.013 --> 0:23:27.493 If New Zealand had still been in the World Test 0:23:27.573 --> 0:23:30.973 Championship wards and in the game, you know what I mean, 0:23:31.173 --> 0:23:36.573 still there challenging. You might put it closer because it 0:23:36.613 --> 0:23:41.173 was necessary and because it was in India. But New 0:23:41.253 --> 0:23:44.133 Zealand are out of it, and so I think the 0:23:44.173 --> 0:23:48.293 World Cup for me, I take Moose's point about the 0:23:48.333 --> 0:23:52.173 batting and the structure and the way they played. I 0:23:52.173 --> 0:23:59.253 think the development of players like Plimmer, like Carson, like 0:23:59.373 --> 0:24:03.573 Jonas and Gays. You've suddenly got four young players. They're 0:24:03.653 --> 0:24:07.493 making contributions right throughout that. The build up of the 0:24:07.573 --> 0:24:10.893 you know, in the game throughout the tournament, Kerr of 0:24:10.973 --> 0:24:15.973