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Speaker 1: The rural reports with the MSD Animal Health home of

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Speaker 1: rotoved Corona ends it's leading calf scarers vaccine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, as we've been discussing, the government is having a

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Speaker 1: look at those over zealous health and safety rules on

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Speaker 1: farms and one of the things that they're wandering about

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Speaker 1: is where the farm kids should be allowed to collect eggs,

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Speaker 1: feed animals, water plants and stuff like that under health

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Speaker 1: and safety rules. Now Jamie McKay has taken a well

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Speaker 1: earned break, so in his place we have David Burkeett,

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Speaker 1: Federated Farmer's Health and Safety spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: Hey David, Yeah, you have a hair game.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. Do you reckon kids should

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Speaker 1: be able to go collect the eggs, feed the small animals,

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Speaker 1: water the plants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think this is sort of blowing up

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Speaker 2: as to be something which is a bit bigger than

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Speaker 2: what it should have been. But you look, it's the

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Speaker 2: one that some farmers have asked questions around, is where

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Speaker 2: do we draw the line around where the workplace starts

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Speaker 2: and finishes, Because, as you know, for family farms at

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Speaker 2: workplaces quite often the home end of workplace as well,

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Speaker 2: and so there must have been some questions ask around

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Speaker 2: clarification of the lines where those chores became part of

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Speaker 2: the workplace and what is chores as part of home life.

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Speaker 2: So some clarification that would be useful, But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's certainly not a big area that we've had concerns around.

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Speaker 1: So farmers aren't farmers aren't particularly stressed about these rules

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Speaker 1: or obeying them by the sounds of things.

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Speaker 2: Well know what we're saying. There is the other areas.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the release by the banister, there's

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Speaker 2: some areas around codes of practice for roles and responsibilities

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Speaker 2: and machinery, and the are the areas we were seeing

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Speaker 2: the most harm and damage and deaths. So they are

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Speaker 2: the areas that we believe we should be targeting to

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Speaker 2: get the best return on time spent on these areas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so is this more about farmers trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out if the kids can actually ride the machinery or

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Speaker 1: use the machinery. Is that what it's about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit will be around that as to

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Speaker 2: you know, what are the ages that are appropriate? But

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Speaker 2: these ones seem to be around the chores that family

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Speaker 2: are doing, you know, as you say, like the collecting

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Speaker 2: of their and ordering the plants which really aren't farm

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Speaker 2: type operations. You can do that on any lifestyle block

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Speaker 2: or any local residential dwellings as well. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's it's just some clarification that obviously has come through

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Speaker 2: and the feedback from the review of the Health and

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Speaker 2: Safety Act.

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Speaker 1: How about instead of them clarification, David, why don't we

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Speaker 1: just scrap the dumb rules and write good ones.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what the approved Code of Practice, which

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Speaker 2: is the second part of the Minister's recommendation, is going

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Speaker 2: to do. So it's going to be rules which is

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Speaker 2: written by work Safe, but we'll be helping them to

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Speaker 2: make sure that they have a rural leans over them

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Speaker 2: and making sure that they're a practical.

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Speaker 1: So are we, David, So are we accepting that the

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Speaker 1: existing rules suck and we're going to get some better ones?

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Speaker 2: Well it looks like that way. These codes of practices

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Speaker 2: what we will be judged on. So if you're achieving

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Speaker 2: the codes of Practice, what it says is that we

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Speaker 2: will be achieving the expectations of work Safe. We know

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Speaker 2: exactly where the line is drawn on the sand. Websites

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Speaker 2: have been produced and it makes it a clearer for

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Speaker 2: farmers to understand their responsibility under health and safety.

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Speaker 1: Now, can you tell me, are there any rules around

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Speaker 1: kiddies being on quad bikes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are rules around ages and there. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: So the quad bikes is one which is covered under

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Speaker 2: farm vehicles and that is where we have our worst accidents.

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Speaker 2: You know, we still continue to lose people who have

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Speaker 2: both experienced and young people as well. So right across

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Speaker 2: the spectrum, we've got some working groups which have been

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Speaker 2: working for quite some time now, but we haven't found

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Speaker 2: that ability to pull those numbers back downs, and we

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Speaker 2: we'd like to see them. Okay, So that's an area

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Speaker 2: in which one of these codes of practices will be

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Speaker 2: focusing on around farm machinery, good vehicles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah cool, all right, David, best of luck with everything.

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Speaker 1: David Burke att Federated Farmers. For more from Heather Duplessy

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