1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Right, let's go to Northland where this woman was killed 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: in a dog attack has been named by a police 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: now a third person to be killed by dogs in 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Northland in the last four years. Shane Jones's jail sentences 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: for owners of roaming animals. You've got to crack down 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and crack down hard. Mark Vett is dogs in owner 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: and pet behavior expert and joins me this morning, Mark, 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: good morning, right, you very well, thank you. What do 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: you do? How do you stop this? Because it's it's 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: clearly becoming a problem. 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is. It's definitely a problem. And I 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: mean it was interesting to read a little bit. I 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: mean very sad and you know, sema heart goes out 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: to the fine out there of the person killed. It's yeah, 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: it's a really sad situation. It sounds like to me 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: there was in the door control with the other day before. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: They've been obviously working on this case for quite a while, 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: so it's pretty sad that something wasn't done a bit sooner. 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: But I don't know the circumstances, so it's hard to know. 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: But it's one of those situations where you've got a 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: multi dog attack like that dog that attack previously other 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: animals killed another dog or damaged another dog. 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: And. 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: A lot of people were frightened of them. I mean, 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: that type of situation seems to be pretty obvious that 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: there's something wrong there. When you've got and it's a 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: high risk situation, I would have thought that had been done, 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: something done sooner. Looking at the number of convictions, I 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: think it's one in there. After all those situations up there, 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: seems to me like there may be some rethinking there 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: to be done in their dog control unit up there, 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: is to how they impound those dogs and do something 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: about it. Earlier, you know, it still was an attack 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: about to happen by the sounds of it. But it's 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: pretty hard to respond just to news that you're speculating on. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: You don't know what the teams. The teams a pretty 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: high level of pressure, I'm sure up there. 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are. But like, 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: let's forget about that case for a second, mark, Let's 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: get away from that and just say generally, if a 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: dog attacks another dog or bites another bites a human 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: and like it's you know, it's damaging, should they be alive? 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: Well? No, And in most cases, when when they've got 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: to a situation, you know, where they've particularly when they're 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: seriously damaged another animal. Almost invariably there's but certainly by 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: the second time youth in ages almost definitely on the cards. 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if the cases had gone to court 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: that there would have been any leniency and at that 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: level of aggression, normally it's almost the other way around. 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: But exactly clearly there's there's issues in regard to the punishment. 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: But really the issue comes down, from my point of view, 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: to education. I mean, obviously, sitting individuals, you can't simply 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: educate they're not going to take that type of information. 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: But I think a very important point is demonstrated to us. 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: If we actually apply the right understanding in the formative 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: period the two to four month period and a dog's 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: life and socialize them, well, that behavior is not going 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: to happen. 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Mark Mark Vett, who's with us 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: this morning, Dogs in owner and pet behavior expert. 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.