1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Sixteen away from seven Ryan, so glad adrianaor is gone. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: He was a disaster with Robertson interfering as well. It 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: was more of a puppet's best news ever, says Linda, 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: and another here says, this is about the astronauts who 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: was stuck in space. They are going to be coming 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: home and will be replaced by two new astronauts, one 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: of whom is American, the other is Russian. And I 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: like this text from Paul that just says, maybe we 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: should send mister Trump and mister peterin up there together. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: That would sort the whole thing out, wouldn't it. That 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: would solve the world's problems. Let's go to Gavin Gray. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: He's a UK and NEK correspondent, Gavin Good Evening. 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: Good evening, Ryn. It would be solved in a day, 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't they. 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Hey, the Vice President in the United States backtracking on 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: these comments he made about potential involvement of the international 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: forces to police APPEACE deal in Ukraine. How's that going 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: down over there? 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: Really really, as you can imagine, very badly. Lots of 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: criticism here, and he has since JD. Vance backtracked on 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: some of those comments. So His comments actually were that 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: the having a US stake in the Ukraine economy was 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: quote better security guarantee than twenty thousand troops from some 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: random country that hasn't fought a war in thirty to 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: forty years. 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Now. 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Who was he talking about, Well, only the UK and 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: France have offered to put boots on the ground in 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: Ukraine as part of a peace deal, so one assumes 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: he was talking about them. And that led, of course 32 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: to plenty of people here referring to the mission in 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: Afghanistan with America, the mission in Iraq with America, and 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: plenty of people which said it was incredibly disrespectful of 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: British forces the same sort of said from France. And 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: now Jdvans and said, well, no, no, I never said it 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: was Britain or France. I didn't mention those countries. 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: But who else could he have referred to? Well, we 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: don't know. 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: He didn't answer that, So yeah, a lot of upset 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: here caused by that comment. 42 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: I meanwhile, there some you guys head over in London 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: with the French and and all sorts of European leaders 44 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: intra die. Actually Trump's kind of headed poke at that too. 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, just saying, you know, gosh, is that all they 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: can do? What a time to say that, You know, 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: when we're going to have a get together and talk 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: about more war was his comment, When he should be 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: we we should be trying to talk about peace. 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: So he's absolutely slammed it. 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: And as the UK was proudly announcing a four point 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: plan to guarantee Ukraine's defense in the event of a 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: peace deal, the US President said, in my quote, probably 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: not a great statement to have made in terms of 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: a show of strength against Russia. 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: What are they thinking? 57 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Again, didn't elaborate on that, And we don't know why 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: this suddenly came out. There is this sort of tendency, 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: I think, as was shown by J. D Vance in 60 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: that earlier quick answer, that they just simply shoot from 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: the hip a little bit and once or twice that's 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: landing them into hot water. 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: Now you're six, so we're all in five eyes together, right, 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: and I six is in there with a gathering intelligence 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: foreign intelligence. Your inspy agency is actually a little bit 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: worried about sharing that intelligence now with the United States 67 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: because Trump's in power. 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we're the only ones now. 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: There hasn't been a formal announcement about this, But in 70 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: the last few hours, Finland's intelligence service called SUPO has 71 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: said it is closely watching developments. 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: In the Trump administration. 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: Why well, because you know, first of all, President Trump 74 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: has cozied up to Putin. Secondly, he has stopped his 75 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: administration's offensive cyber operations against Russia. And lastly, the administration 76 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: already is accused of mishandling sensitive data that's supposed to 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: be secret by actually announcing it on social media, is 78 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: the allegation. So that's why many in the Five Eyes 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: are very, very wary about what's happening. I think, to 80 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: be fair ram when any new leader gets in, there's 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: a certain element of app hension, maybe a certain element 82 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: of not giving everything over at the start that you know. 83 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: But I think definitely we're sensing among those different security 84 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: intelligence organizations across Australia and New Zealand, amongst the Fire Eyes, 85 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: that this is going to be something that all of 86 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: those governments and organizations are reviewing carefully, fearing that any 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: information they give may suddenly be blurted out on social 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: media or in. 89 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: An interview, which is an absolutely fear concern to have. 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: The other instinct thing course, is whether the American intelligence 91 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: community actually hands over all of the intel to the 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: president on the same basis. Now, tell me about these migrants. 93 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: They were trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea and they 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: have been rescued, which is fantastic news. That they found 95 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: themselves on an oil platform. 96 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: So it's just off the coast of Tunisia, so they 98 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: haven't got terribly far, and they decided to get onto 99 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: this oil platform because I think their boat was very 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: sort of poorly maintained. 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: As usual, and they feared drowning. 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: So although one personal platform has died when they managed 103 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: to scramble or board, they are now on a non 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: governmental organization boat called the Sea Watch. It says it's 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: rescued all thirty two remaining from this platform. However, although 106 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: they're being looked after aboard the Aurora ship, no country 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: nearby has yet agreed to let the ship dock safely. So, 108 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: in other words, no European countries intervened despite what the 109 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: ship's owners are saying is an imminent emergency and the 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: fact that the people are stranded in international waters. So 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 3: they are looking at Malta perhaps as being the place 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: that should take them on run because this happened within 113 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: international waters, but within the Maltese search and rescue zone. 114 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: And I think it really plays again into this thing 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: at the moment which immigration is such a hot topic 116 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: here in Europe and all those attacks as well that 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: we've seen in Germany by asylum seekers and by those 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: who come from Afghanistan and other countries that quite frankly, 119 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: people are going to be very very reluctant countries, very 120 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: reluctant to take on board these thirty two even though 121 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: it is a relatively small figure. 122 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Gevin, thank you very much for that. 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