1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The All Blacks heading home of course, having lost both. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Upside is they will be taking on Australia next to 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: a turning out to be even more useless than previously 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: thought or seen. Ian Jones is back with us on 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: All of the Sea and morning to you. 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, Mike, and to your listeners. 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: The quality of the game itself. What's your assessment. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Off fast intensity watching as a spectator? You're absolutely why 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: I do anyway, Mike, pu get exhausted because you're so 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: in the moment, and so you know, we've got a 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: bit frantic towards the end, which kind of going, please 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: is calm if down people out there, and we needed 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: those clear heads, especially from Body, especially from TJ. Will. 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: It actually looked like a little bit we're's at last 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: ten minutes Mike and. 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: People if you reckon. Body was on the bench for 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: too long and his head exploded a bit and he 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: needed to get all that energy out all in one 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: crazy sort of movement. 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: I kind of think, not just executive Body, but you 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: know Darry as well. These big impact players very hard 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: in a frantic situation, regardless of where you are. Mike 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: Buttce to come on in those last ten minutes make 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: a difference. You need a little bit of time. Been 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: studying the game for sixty you know what subtle changes 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: can make. But we didn't make those when that was 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: an impact from the coaching staff of the week before, 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: when those people came on and we gave away a 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: few penalties, et cetera, et cetera, didn't have conference. But 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: at the moment, I mean, the Surbrogance are ruthless. They 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 2: are physically strong, they dominate you, they're weie you down. 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: I guess they've got to measure at the moment and 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: they just hold intensitive for longer periods than we are. 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: When we were at our peak now a few years ago, 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: we could do that to opposition. At the moment, we're 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: just not there. 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's a very good point. And I 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: think we've got to give credit to the South Africans. 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: This wasn't one of those games where every now and again, 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: at the right time, the right place, at altitude, whatever 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: they happen to win. They are consistent winners. They're World 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Cup champions for a reason. They are the best side 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: in the world and they need to be gratulated for that, don't. 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: They absolutely Mike can remember also playing away from home 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: in front of their fanatical fans. It is an absolutely 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: tense quadron. We want to win those matches. We went 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: good enough for the last two and my god, we've 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: given away the freedom cap. We've had that for a 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: long long time. And you're right and you're intro. We 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: have to hold on to that. There's a cup and 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: we have to get some momentum before we go to 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: Europe at the end of the year. But man, what 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: games of football. I mean, I'm biased, Mike. When rugby's 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: played at that level, it's the greatest game in the world. 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very high quality. I'll give you that one. 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Although I could talk to you about Damien Christy, Chanelle, 57 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Harris Devita came to mind all of a sudden, I 58 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: thought's happened to people trying to kick the ball between 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: the sticks. Ian Jones with. 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: Us for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast. 61 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks they'd be from six am weekdays, 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.