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Speaker 1: Daily uspoke content that you won't find on the radio

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Speaker 1: show The HURDARKI Breakfast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: So we're heading over to Byron Bay and a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks time for a wellness retreat. Man, it's really

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Speaker 2: sneaking up, it is. And last time I was over

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Speaker 2: in Byron Bay, I was treated to a breath workshop. Now,

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Speaker 2: I was skeptical about breath work. I didn't really know

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Speaker 2: anything about it, but I thought, that doesn't sound like

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Speaker 2: something that I'll be interested in doing, because I don't

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Speaker 2: generally like group activities like that. I don't like group exercise. No,

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Speaker 2: I like playing team sports. Yeah, I'm not a yoga guy.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: But I went along and to the lovely Sophie in

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Speaker 2: the hinterlands of Byron Bay. We went to her I

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Speaker 2: think as her house. It was in in the middle

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Speaker 2: of beautiful bush and what happened was quite remarkable and

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Speaker 2: Sophie joins us, Now get a Sophie good money. How

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Speaker 2: are you going, Sophie, I we, I was just saying

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Speaker 2: before too, Mania, I was skeptical about breath workshops because

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Speaker 2: I don't like the word workshop. Particularly, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: it seems like work. But you know why, I went

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Speaker 2: along and I had quite the experience amazing.

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Speaker 4: Well, normally the skepticism comes more to do with the breathing.

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Speaker 4: It's like, why am I going to breathing workshop. I'm

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Speaker 4: breathing all day long? What's the points?

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Speaker 3: Look, I'll be completely honest, Sophie, that is exactly my

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Speaker 3: thought process. I breathe all day every day, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: how many different ways are there to breathe and how

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Speaker 3: much difference could that possibly make?

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, you'd be surprised. That's the magic of it.

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Speaker 4: There's actually so many different types of breath work, and

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Speaker 4: surprisingly so many people. You know, yes, we're breathing all

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Speaker 4: day long, you know whether to consciously or unconsciously, it happens.

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Speaker 4: But so many people actually breathe in a way that

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Speaker 4: is not great for them, not ideal, for example, breathing shallow,

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Speaker 4: breathing in their chest, and it can really impact your health.

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Speaker 4: So the moment we learn how to breathe properly to

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Speaker 4: begin with, and or use different types of breathwork practices,

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Speaker 4: we can really enhance our health in profound ways.

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Speaker 2: Sophie, When did you find out about the power of

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Speaker 2: breath work?

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Speaker 4: Actually, I spent about eight months in India about twelve

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Speaker 4: synchronicity be a part of one of the Dala Lama's teachings,

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Speaker 4: which really opened my world to Buddhism and meditation and

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Speaker 4: different breathing practices. So ever since then, I've been well,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say, healthily obsessed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, breathing everyday sense?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, how does it all work? So we're going

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Speaker 2: to come along to one of your breath workshops. So

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Speaker 2: for people who haven't done it before and who are

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Speaker 2: a little bit either skeptical like mania, or I just

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is yeah, or a naive to

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Speaker 2: what goes on, or are a little bit afraid perhaps

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Speaker 2: of maybe hyper ventilating and passing out, just run through

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Speaker 2: what happens.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I would love to.

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Speaker 4: First of all, my approach is definitely on the more

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Speaker 4: gentle side. There's many different types of breathwork as I

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Speaker 5: I'm not about that.

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Speaker 4: For me. It's all about a gentle, feminine approach so

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Speaker 4: our nervous system can be super relaxed, downregulated. So really

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Speaker 4: we can move from a Paris sorry for us, from

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Speaker 4: And these breath were practices that I'm sharing, they have

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Speaker 4: many different health benefits, especially if you practice regularly.

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Speaker 5: So it's a little bit like going to the gym.

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Speaker 4: If you go to the gym once, you're not going

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Speaker 4: And similar with breathwork and meditation, the more regularly you practice,

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Speaker 4: And so breath work, especially when practice regularly, and I'm

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Speaker 4: your heart rate and your heart rate viability. So therefore

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Speaker 4: it can actually improve like strengthen your heart so it

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Speaker 4: lowers the risk of heart related diseases. So for me,

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Speaker 4: that's a really good reason to practice regularly. You know,

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Speaker 4: well as help you to handle stress better. So you know,

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Speaker 4: it's let's say, it's inevitable that the stressful situations will

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Speaker 4: help us with that. We can help regulate our nervous system.

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned before, we can go from that stress

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Speaker 4: Like breathwork, meditation, and plant medicines, hands down are the

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Speaker 4: three things that have changed my life to most, other

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Speaker 5: Bullshit, which we all need to have those.

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Speaker 2: Very important Sophie, as part of sorry, as part of

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Speaker 4: And b Well, first of all, of course I remember

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Speaker 4: Every little niggle, every little pain, every little symptom most

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Speaker 4: believe that there is no such thing as a negative emotion.

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Speaker 4: All emotions are phenomenal teachers. All emotions are simply energy

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Speaker 3: the moment, I'm dealing with the cold. I like the

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Speaker 1: Share any wells and the naiast it find them on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Kardarki Breakfast. Kirian and I are joined the

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Speaker 1: conflayt the hard Aki Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.

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Speaker 2: Sophie, I'm also looking here and you are involved in

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Speaker 2: psychedelic integration and preparation. Now, yes, that sounds very interesting

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Speaker 5: Yes, it sure does well.

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Speaker 4: Plant medicines, which as you probably know and the listeners

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Speaker 4: open your hearts, open your minds, and there's many different

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Speaker 4: plant medicines that you know are there to be worked with.

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Speaker 2: What about, Sophie, If I just liked taking the plants

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Speaker 4: Time, well, look that that can be very dangerous, to

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Speaker 4: These plants because you like to have a good time,

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Speaker 3: So, for example, sporting events are probably be a bad

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Speaker 2: Sophie. You must have met a lot of people over

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Speaker 2: you'll probably say no, but you haven't have any decides

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Speaker 4: Look, I have to be honest, this work really attracts

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Speaker 5: And I say it again and again.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Oh my god, the beautiful people that

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh that's just because you're you're too you're too nice.

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Speaker 4: Ew Look, I believe that people are away over that

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Speaker 2: Sophie. We are going to be coming over and seeing

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Speaker 2: to it. I'm looking forward to introducing you to a

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to having a crack is someone who

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Speaker 3: quite hard to bottle up a lot of my trauma

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to Sophie. Thanks for your time this morning,

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Speaker 2: and I look forward to seeing in a few weeks.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: I hope you have a beautiful day.

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