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Speaker 1: We got a new plan to deal with Auckland Transport

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Speaker 1: New Zealand first has produced a members build that have

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Speaker 1: pulled and then passed. Will scrap them and return the

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Speaker 1: power to Auckland Council. Not surprisingly the Mayor Wayne Brown's

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Speaker 1: into it and you see them First Leader Winston Peter's

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Speaker 1: with us on this good morning to you, good mind,

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Speaker 1: you got any numbers worked out? If it gets pulled, you've.

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Speaker 2: Been voting numbers? Yeah, Well, of current sense prevails, it'll

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Speaker 2: go hosing through Parliament. Because this was set up in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. It's been a serious as failure

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Speaker 2: and it's gone on year after year, massive complaints. The

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Speaker 2: whole city is if the advice and nothing's been done,

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Speaker 2: and we decided we need to do something about it

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Speaker 2: and do it now.

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Speaker 1: Was it set up incorrectly just to explain it to

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Speaker 1: the rest of the country because they seem apowering to themselves.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, you see it from the very beginning. It lacked

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Speaker 2: any democratic oversight and certain where you get issues about accountability,

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Speaker 2: court decision making and no transparency INWD cases between the

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Speaker 2: eight and the mayors. Has been a poet and as

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Speaker 2: a consultation with the communities they.

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Speaker 1: Felt like it, can you do anything about it? Or

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Speaker 1: can Wine Brown do anything about it? Or the council

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Speaker 1: do anything about it? If the bill doesn't get pulled,

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Speaker 1: in other word, consent to central would central government move

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Speaker 1: if they had to?

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Speaker 2: What the reality is that the mayor can't do a

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Speaker 2: thing about other councilors can't do a thing about it,

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Speaker 2: then we need to change the wrongful establishment of this

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Speaker 2: critical infrastructure in central government. Well, we'll see you very

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Speaker 2: quickly when they have a look at this legislation exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, A couple of things while I've got you

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Speaker 1: for this Friday morning. Shane Jones and his attitude towards

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Speaker 1: the judiciary. Do you have an issue with his comments

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Speaker 1: or not? Really?

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Speaker 2: The reality was she made a comment in a circumstance

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Speaker 2: where it was overheard, not intended for public consumption in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form, and that is unfortunate because

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Speaker 2: there is a separation of powers and there is a

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Speaker 2: respect between both organizations and both listens, whether Pepoli's government

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Speaker 2: or judiciary. So in the sense Shane has read very clear,

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Speaker 2: if I made a comment based on someone's background, of course,

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Speaker 2: which was a fact, if you had in your past

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Speaker 2: been a member of you know, the left reading socialist

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Speaker 2: or comunist organization. Then the question is not that person

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Speaker 2: should be surveyed now, but is it true or not?

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Speaker 2: In fact it's true, no doubt about that. He just

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Speaker 2: got longing overheard by someone who actually report that.

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Speaker 1: What about the totalitarian thinking that he was talking about yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Does he need talking to or not?

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Speaker 2: But if you're talking about the Treaty of White any tribunal,

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Speaker 2: didnyte any tribunal? It's not record, it's not the House

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Speaker 2: of Lords, and it's not an upper house. It is

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Speaker 2: not a supreme body in this country. There are the

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Speaker 2: concerns about that. And I'm not joining a Shange's comments

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Speaker 2: other than to say there is a serious anxiety about

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Speaker 2: the powers of the sign attack unto itself and sort

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Speaker 2: of what you might call a semi judicial make work

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Speaker 2: scheme receiving all sorts of applications and presiding over things

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Speaker 2: never commimated when it was established in ninety seventy five,

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Speaker 2: or its powers were expanded in Nearis by Jeffrey Palmer.

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Speaker 1: So please so pleased to hear you say that, because

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Speaker 1: I've asked the Prime Minister about the several times, and

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Speaker 1: he's much kinder with them than you are. But explain

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Speaker 1: to me why, in a country with less than no

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Speaker 1: money we continue to fund an organization that has well

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Speaker 1: passed its use by a date. The historical grievances by

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Speaker 1: and larger been sorted, and they're in the business now

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Speaker 1: of pumping out almost daily urgent reports. What's the point of.

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Speaker 2: That, wells a fair question is a serious political issue.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to resilve from that in terms of

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Speaker 2: challenging what's going on here that the original mandate descripted

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Speaker 2: by Parliament, agreed by cost, the political divide has long

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Speaker 2: since changed and many of us so I'm not happy

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Speaker 2: with what's going on. And we're saying so because in

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Speaker 2: the end we were sitting out back being to try

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Speaker 2: and trick the past, if that is possible, although it's

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Speaker 2: very difficult to do that. We're trying to trick what

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Speaker 2: could be fixed up and get on being one country.

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Speaker 2: As Finncooper said in nineteen seventy five, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the passing of the Mary King, as very.

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Speaker 2: Said that he's on the throne for eighty years. The

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Speaker 2: King ey Donn or King movement will be in the ragment,

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Speaker 2: and so will many who, as I say, not part

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Speaker 2: of the king a donna, but respect its establishment, will

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Speaker 2: be passing on there severe sincere condulences and as a

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Speaker 2: very sad now he was sixty nine years of age,

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Speaker 2: not a terribly old time to be in my eighty

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Speaker 2: years on the throne. And now there's going to be

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Speaker 2: the honey, so speak, a long process and then a

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Speaker 2: successor has to be appointed.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. You have a good week in Winston Pleaders,

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