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Speaker 2: EDB, Hi theck God, A good afternoon. Welcome into the

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Speaker 2: Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB for

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Speaker 2: December twenty, Happy fifty third birthday to six time World

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Speaker 2: mountain running champion Keepy Jonathan Wyatt and Happy twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: to French football superstar Killian inm Barbey. I'm Jason Pine

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Speaker 2: Show produced today by Isaiah Aberdingo. We're here talking sport

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Speaker 2: until three after one o'clock this afternoon. Luke Metcalfe is

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Speaker 2: with us. His excellent twenty twenty five NRL season cut

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Speaker 2: two twenty six. I've heard round five, round six talked about.

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Speaker 2: Luke metcalf can give us the most up to date

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Speaker 2: information when he joins us after one o'clock. Leading us

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Speaker 2: off today, though, is the triple vacancy at the top

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Speaker 2: of sport in this country. New Zealand Rugby, Netball, New

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Speaker 2: Zealand New Zealand cricket all without CEOs as we head

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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six. Sport New Zealand Chief Executive raylen Castle,

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Speaker 2: one of our most respected sporting administrators and one of

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Speaker 2: our most experienced as well, leads us off today that

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Speaker 2: I'm very keen on your thoughts, in particular the events

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Speaker 2: this to kick around other matters around. Today, Whitney Hanson

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Speaker 2: has been announced as the new Black Fern's head coach.

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Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty six Beef for World Cup, joined

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Speaker 2: by key New Zealand midfielder Joe Bell. This afternoon. The

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Speaker 2: The Phoenix Women back home to play Sydney of FC

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Speaker 2: and Pottydoor this afternoon. The club's most experienced player, Mackenzie Bowry,

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Speaker 2: is with US Australian correspondent Adam Peacock along in his

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. While we're on the air, Test cricket on

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Speaker 2: In the space of the last two days, the CEOs

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Speaker 2: On Thursday, Netball New Zealand head Jenny Wiley resigned with

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Speaker 2: Former CEO of Netball New Zealand, the Canterbury Bulldogs in

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Speaker 2: CEO of Sport New Zealand Raylan Castle. Raylan, thank you

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Speaker 2: for taking the time for a chat this afternoon. What

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Speaker 4: I think it does talk to the very challenging roles

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Speaker 4: They're facing a lot of disruption and it's probably not

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Speaker 2: How worrying is it then that we are entering the

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not perfect, but I think both all

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Speaker 4: So I don't think there's any major concerns at all.

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Speaker 2: How much is a CEO beholden to the strategic direction

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Speaker 4: Well completely, really, I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: that's the relationship that a board and a CEO has.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, our strategy is agreed

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Speaker 4: often developed by management. It is signed off and endorsed

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Speaker 4: So a relationship that's much that's symbiotic if you like,

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Speaker 4: that's got a greed areas of focus and alignment is

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Speaker 4: certainly what a good board and CEO relationship looks like.

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Speaker 4: And if that became challenge, it does become very difficult

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how common is that, Raylene for a CEO and

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Speaker 4: I think is a really good tension to have. You know,

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Speaker 4: When you're working in a disrupted market, sometimes before year,

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Speaker 4: There might be international situations, might be through international bodies

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Speaker 4: So that is the reality of being the CEO. You

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Speaker 4: that is what really good looks like.

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Speaker 2: Do different boards have varying levels of involvement? For example,

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Speaker 2: to some boards I'm not just talking about these specific

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Speaker 4: It does often dependation, I think on the side of

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Speaker 4: of how you get traction, engaging with your members, engaging

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Speaker 4: it's helpful for a CEO to have board members that

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Speaker 4: different depending on the situation you're dealing with. And certainly

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Speaker 4: for our board and the CEO to understand their roles

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Speaker 4: that means everyone clearly understands the plan.

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Speaker 5: They're working too.

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Speaker 2: How prevalent and problematic are politics and personality clashes in

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Speaker 2: sports governance, Well, I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that's the piece that's quite you know, I laugh,

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Speaker 4: For you know, over my career, I've seen some of

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, the key principles

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Speaker 4: doing what the right thing for the sport is is

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Speaker 4: ultimately at their heart of what any governance and or

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Speaker 2: We focused on indeed, indeed, how much does the relentless

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Speaker 2: nature and as you've outlined writing the very public nature

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Speaker 2: of being a CEO of Innso how much does that

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Speaker 2: take its toll?

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Speaker 4: Well, it really does take its toll, and I don't

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Speaker 4: difficult that can be. Not only are you dealing with

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Speaker 4: of the vitriol and keyboard warrior nature of those environments

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Speaker 4: is truly horrendous. I mean it, it's disgraceful behavior that

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Speaker 4: that having making sure that the people that count, which

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time to chat

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Speaker 2: to Australian, really interesting analysis. Thanks again, and Merry Christmas

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Speaker 2: Railan Castle Sport New Zealand at chief executive their former

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Speaker 2: Talks, News Talks theirb and Weekend Sport twelve twenty nine

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Speaker 5: Yeah, piney Well? First off with netballs netballs Jenny Wiley's resignation.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, now, I think I mean that may

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Speaker 5: so I think, you know, try mediation. Also, I think

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Speaker 5: that to for both sides to legally protect themselves, having

433
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Speaker 5: mediation is a good thing on for the legal aspect

434
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Speaker 5: of it. But I mean it was obviously mediation. I mean,

435
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Speaker 5: you know, the Plains Association, the board weren't going to

436
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Speaker 5: change their mind. Scott Whiteningk wasn't going to change his

437
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Speaker 5: so that was really the start and the end of

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Speaker 5: the mediation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think, I mean the inability to find

440
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Speaker 2: a middle ground I think is the main problem. You know, again,

441
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Speaker 2: where is the sport in all of this? Why is

442
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Speaker 2: the sport itself and its participants not in the center

443
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Speaker 2: of this conversation? Mediation between a CEO and his board

444
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Speaker 2: takes us so far away from the cricket field. Thanks

445
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Speaker 2: for you called Grant twenty seven away from one eight

446
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. We'd like to get your

447
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Speaker 2: thoughts on this. A couple of other points tours. Who

448
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Speaker 2: are the candidates for these jobs? Have you got any ideas?

449
00:26:14,267 --> 00:26:16,347
Speaker 2: Love to hear them. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

450
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Speaker 2: twenty seven to one.

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Speaker 1: We're back after this The Voice of Sport on your

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Speaker 1: Home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vane and GJ.

453
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Speaker 2: It'd be twenty four to one spear line there if

455
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Speaker 2: you want to jump aboard eight hundred and eighty ten

456
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Speaker 2: eighty as we speak about the leadership of our top

457
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Speaker 2: three sporting organizations, who might fill those voids in the

458
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Speaker 2: new year, and how we've got to knew the position

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Speaker 2: that we're in. We'll get you to Bay Oval shortly.

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Speaker 2: We're a short time ago this happened.

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Speaker 7: It's the muff Man himself. He's going to resume.

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Speaker 8: Oh yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 9: Yes, clean old King for sixty here, yes, yes, the

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Speaker 9: breakthrough the muff there, it's the double break.

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Speaker 10: Through Westin he's one hundred and forty for two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one forty for two has become one hundred and

467
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Speaker 2: eighty for two. That was Brandon Ken courtesy of our

468
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Speaker 2: friends at the ACC being bowld by Jacob Duffy for

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Speaker 2: sixty three. John Campbell out earlier caught behind no not

470
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Speaker 2: caught behind court by Tom Latham in the slips off

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Speaker 2: Duffy for forty FiveM keverrm Hodge is there on forty four.

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Speaker 2: Tevlyn Imlac is sixteen unbeaten and the West Indies one

473
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty for two. That still has them trailing

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Speaker 2: by three hundred and ninety five runs, but a couple

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Speaker 2: of wickets for Jacob Duffy this morning who has two

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Speaker 2: for fifty three across to the Ashes Test. We'll get

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Speaker 2: you to Andrew Raldison before one o'clock actually at Bayoval

478
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Speaker 2: to check on some more in depth information regarding day

479
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Speaker 2: day three of this Test. Day four of the third

480
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Speaker 2: Ashes Test at the Adelaide Oval is also back under way.

481
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Speaker 2: Travis Head and Alex Carey have resumed and taken Australia

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Speaker 2: through to two hundred and seventy six for four. That

483
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Speaker 2: is a massive lead of three hundred and sixty one runs.

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Speaker 2: Even if they pulled out now, that would be the

485
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Speaker 2: biggest ever chase if England were to achieve it at

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Speaker 2: the Adelaide Oval. Nobody has ever chased that many and

487
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Speaker 2: won a test at the Adelaide Oval, but with Travis

488
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Speaker 2: head set there one hundred and forty two not out,

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Speaker 2: Alex Carey fifty seven unbeaten. These to have already put

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Speaker 2: on a very very big partnership. I think they just

491
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Speaker 2: what battol at least at least the middle session, maybe

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Speaker 2: even until Tea give themselves four sessions to bowl England

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Speaker 2: out and back themselves to take advantage of England's apparent

494
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Speaker 2: inability to play any other way than the bass ball method.

495
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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty as our number. Pinty

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Speaker 2: Rey Scott Winnink. He was chair of the Pliers Association

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Speaker 2: when he got made CEO. He was he used to

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Speaker 2: be on the Plus Association, so he had a tight

499
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Speaker 2: relationship with Heath Mills at the Pliers Association. Within eighteen

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Speaker 2: months that relationship is broken, Steve says Pinty his nep

501
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Speaker 2: on New Zealand received substantial tax payer funding. Have the

502
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Speaker 2: obligation to be open and transparent with the public, Steve

503
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Speaker 2: bang on, and that's that's it too. When we were

504
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the discussions around Dame Nolene, when

505
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Speaker 2: they were at their fiercest and when you know, there

506
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Speaker 2: just seemed to be nothing coming out of of Netball

507
00:29:23,147 --> 00:29:26,907
Speaker 2: New Zealand. People were saying, hey, well, it's not our business. Well,

508
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Speaker 2: in many ways, it is our business for a couple

509
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Speaker 2: of reasons. One, as Steve's point has pointed out, and

510
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Speaker 2: you know we we we in part anyway through our

511
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Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars fund the high performance program at Netball New Zealand.

512
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Speaker 2: But also because without its fans, without its grassroots support,

513
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Speaker 2: without it's you know, died in the wall. Supporters support

514
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Speaker 2: doesn't have anything right. If there's no you know, there's

515
00:30:04,667 --> 00:30:08,947
Speaker 2: no support for a team or a sport, then you

516
00:30:08,987 --> 00:30:12,027
Speaker 2: know they ceased to become relevant. So we do have

517
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Speaker 2: I think the responsibility and the right to ask questions

518
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Speaker 2: like this Mark Robinson's interesting. This is I mean, and

519
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Speaker 2: let's make this clear. This Mark Robinson's situation very different

520
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Speaker 2: from Jenny Wiley or Scott Wennick. He resigned, but that

521
00:30:30,387 --> 00:30:32,227
Speaker 2: happened ages ago and the fact that they haven't been

522
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Speaker 2: able to find a replacement very telling. And it relates

523
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Speaker 2: to the vacancies at NEPAUL and cricket as well. It's

524
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Speaker 2: either not attractive enough or it doesn't pay enough, and

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson's probably of a pretty small group of people

526
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Speaker 2: former all black with commercial acumen. It allowed him to

527
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Speaker 2: pop into a rugby club and chat to the members,

528
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Speaker 2: chat to the locals. Would also be comfortable sitting across

529
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Speaker 2: the table from big corporates to convince them to align

530
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Speaker 2: themselves with New Zealand Rugby, not to mention the dealings

531
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Speaker 2: he had at World Rugby. The pall of people who

532
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Speaker 2: can do both of those things, it's pretty small. Get

533
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Speaker 2: I pet it.

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Speaker 11: I have a new year to you, Jason.

535
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Speaker 2: And you's good to hear from you, mate.

536
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Speaker 11: I've got a couple of names I've been thinking about.

537
00:31:15,747 --> 00:31:20,187
Speaker 11: In the netball. I thought Tania Cox, who's looking after

538
00:31:20,267 --> 00:31:24,107
Speaker 11: the wire Rapper rugby union at the moment. She's been

539
00:31:24,147 --> 00:31:28,987
Speaker 11: in the sport netball very successful. She's from Wellington and

540
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Speaker 11: Lads I think is from Japan and is going to

541
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Speaker 11: play for the Hurricanes this year. I think she's got

542
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Speaker 11: the experience to take that job on. And in the cricket,

543
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Speaker 11: I thought of Peter Fulton down in christ Urt's there.

544
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Speaker 11: He's got a lot of experience in administration. He's played

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Speaker 11: for New Zealand and those are the two names I

546
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Speaker 11: like to put forward anyway.

547
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Speaker 2: Nice Petty. I think Peter Fulton's experience is more around

548
00:31:56,227 --> 00:31:58,507
Speaker 2: the coaching than the business side of it. But he's

549
00:31:58,547 --> 00:32:01,307
Speaker 2: always struck me as a very level headed guy who

550
00:32:01,507 --> 00:32:05,107
Speaker 2: has the best interests of the sport that he serves

551
00:32:05,547 --> 00:32:08,347
Speaker 2: at heart. Ye Antana, Yeah, Tarnia Durns, Yeah, I'll see

552
00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:11,707
Speaker 2: Hunter her son is yeah. No, no, no, no, that no,

553
00:32:11,787 --> 00:32:13,587
Speaker 2: that's just that's the Antania Cox who made a name.

554
00:32:14,267 --> 00:32:16,227
Speaker 2: We all know who you're talking about. And yeah, she

555
00:32:16,787 --> 00:32:19,187
Speaker 2: well she's a straight shooter, isn't she. You know, I

556
00:32:19,187 --> 00:32:21,707
Speaker 2: don't think there be any any gray area there, Peter.

557
00:32:21,827 --> 00:32:25,067
Speaker 2: If if there were, there were discussions to be had,

558
00:32:25,107 --> 00:32:28,307
Speaker 2: though two very good suggestions made. I think that, like

559
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Speaker 2: I said, I think the problem is that. And even

560
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Speaker 2: though Railing said that she thought that the the benefits package,

561
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Speaker 2: the pay in other words, was good enough to attract

562
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Speaker 2: a high quality of candidate, I'm not sure I agree.

563
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Speaker 2: I think you look for you're looking for all of this,

564
00:32:45,867 --> 00:32:52,067
Speaker 2: you know, huge business and commercial acumen, along with a

565
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Speaker 2: deep history in the game of rugby. And I'm not

566
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Speaker 2: saying that you know, well, you can't buy those things,

567
00:32:56,787 --> 00:33:00,507
Speaker 2: but if you're looking at the commercial side, any anyone

568
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Speaker 2: who has you know, the majority of of the boxes

569
00:33:04,227 --> 00:33:07,027
Speaker 2: ticked on what they call the skills matrix, it's probably

570
00:33:07,027 --> 00:33:11,667
Speaker 2: earning three four five times as much somewhere else. So

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Speaker 2: why would they take the gig? Hey?

572
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Speaker 12: John?

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Speaker 13: If any happy Christmas? See in your family and to

574
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Speaker 13: you John, So, how let me ask you, now, all

575
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Speaker 13: the situations going on with not just support and everything,

576
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Speaker 13: how do you get the poison out? Who are people

577
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Speaker 13: who are useless in high management? Legally?

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Speaker 14: You can't.

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about what in particular are you referencing.

580
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Speaker 13: In high management? As we've seen all the disasters, appalling

581
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Speaker 13: behavior by senior management. How do you get the rot out?

582
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Speaker 13: If certain people our names are being dragged through the

583
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Speaker 13: mud as we've seen, and the management are still in

584
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Speaker 13: place there legally, and then that person who has been

585
00:33:57,987 --> 00:34:01,947
Speaker 13: dragged through the mud legally can't open their mouth afterwards

586
00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:04,467
Speaker 13: because contractly want you to put your name to the contract.

587
00:34:04,747 --> 00:34:08,627
Speaker 13: It's a done deal, so there's no it's a game over.

588
00:34:10,147 --> 00:34:12,667
Speaker 2: So so in other words, what you're suggesting is that

589
00:34:13,187 --> 00:34:16,467
Speaker 2: is that so so in order to leave Jenny Wiley

590
00:34:16,507 --> 00:34:21,467
Speaker 2: and Scott winingc have been what have have signed confidentiality agreements,

591
00:34:21,547 --> 00:34:24,227
Speaker 2: non disclosure agreements, that sort of thing. And so your

592
00:34:24,267 --> 00:34:27,147
Speaker 2: suggestion is that there is still work to be done

593
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Speaker 2: on those who still operate in the business. Is that

594
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Speaker 2: what you're suggesting.

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Speaker 13: Yes, and you and in regards to taxpayers, money absolutely

596
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Speaker 13: redeserve answers.

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Speaker 15: But you're not.

598
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Speaker 13: You're telling me seriously and the rest the people in

599
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Speaker 13: the contrary that we're going to get answers. And because

600
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Speaker 13: contractly and lifting you're silenced the high management, they're going

601
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Speaker 13: to do nothing.

602
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, here's what I hope, John, Here's what I

603
00:34:50,227 --> 00:34:54,547
Speaker 2: hope is that we get to a point where a

604
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Speaker 2: new CEO is appointed at both Netball New Zealand and

605
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Speaker 2: at New Zealand Cricket. And as they always say, you know,

606
00:35:01,747 --> 00:35:04,427
Speaker 2: it comes from the top, doesn't it. It comes from

607
00:35:04,467 --> 00:35:07,547
Speaker 2: the top. And whoever comes into those two organizations, in

608
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Speaker 2: particular into a lesser extent New Zealand Rugby as well,

609
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Speaker 2: but mainly Cricket and Netball. Given the circumstances around the

610
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Speaker 2: departures of the CEOs, whoever comes and knows exactly what

611
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Speaker 2: they're walking into, they will come in with eyes wide open,

612
00:35:20,507 --> 00:35:22,587
Speaker 2: wide open. So what I hope is that they come

613
00:35:22,627 --> 00:35:25,787
Speaker 2: in and that yeah, and they're able to They're able

614
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Speaker 2: to to inject their positive culture into the organization.

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Speaker 13: That is my hope, John, Right, Well, that's that's a

616
00:35:38,027 --> 00:35:41,987
Speaker 13: great point. But when you have other people in that

617
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Speaker 13: organizations that's been there through take and send the bad times,

618
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Speaker 13: and personally they all want to play along with this,

619
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Speaker 13: the senior position of a CEO of being brought in, well,

620
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Speaker 13: they're one change, so the next CEO will just be

621
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Speaker 13: up against the wall.

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00:36:01,107 --> 00:36:01,347
Speaker 7: Again.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think people get found out, John, I hope

624
00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:08,227
Speaker 2: that anyway. Maybe that's naive, but I feel like at

625
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Speaker 2: some point, and I'm not suggesting this is the case

626
00:36:12,027 --> 00:36:13,947
Speaker 2: at all in these organizations, but at some point in

627
00:36:13,987 --> 00:36:17,707
Speaker 2: any organization you can only you can only be that

628
00:36:17,747 --> 00:36:21,787
Speaker 2: way for so long before you before you get found out.

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Speaker 2: Good to chat you, John, Thanks for your call made

630
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Speaker 2: fourteen away from one. We'll take a break. When I

631
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Speaker 2: come back, we will get you to Bay Oval and

632
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Speaker 2: checking with Andrew Ordison on day three of the third

633
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Speaker 2: Test between the Black Caps and the West Indies.

634
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Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty weekends forward with Jason Fine and GJ.

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Speaker 2: News talks there being weekend sport eleven away from one.

639
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Speaker 2: Let's get you to Bay Oval where we're approaching lunch

640
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Speaker 2: on the third day of the third Test between the

641
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Speaker 2: black Caps and the West Indies. The Western is resuming

642
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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten without loss. They've just gone to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety five for two. Andrew Ordison can

644
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Speaker 2: update us, sir, who's won this first session? Orders Piny.

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Speaker 15: Look, I think it's fearly even, I meanaland we've pleased

646
00:37:09,347 --> 00:37:11,907
Speaker 15: to get those two wickets, Jacob Duffy getting both of

647
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Speaker 15: them with John Campbell caught it by Tom Lakeman second

648
00:37:14,747 --> 00:37:18,587
Speaker 15: slip for forty five and Brandon King making sixty three

649
00:37:18,627 --> 00:37:21,907
Speaker 15: before his bowl by Duffy spit on at both ends

650
00:37:22,227 --> 00:37:25,707
Speaker 15: now but no further wickets I think probably in the

651
00:37:25,707 --> 00:37:27,907
Speaker 15: West Indies favor. And it looks good to bat on

652
00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:30,747
Speaker 15: this wicket at the present time, as you'd expect from

653
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Speaker 15: a third day pitch. And also the footmarks not particularly

654
00:37:36,027 --> 00:37:39,067
Speaker 15: impressive so far from a New Zealand perspective, probably more

655
00:37:39,787 --> 00:37:43,107
Speaker 15: Cinderella type footmark rather than Isaiah sasquatch if you want

656
00:37:43,147 --> 00:37:46,747
Speaker 15: to make some comparisons there, Piney. But they'll be looking

657
00:37:46,747 --> 00:37:48,587
Speaker 15: to build on those and one of those factors is

658
00:37:48,627 --> 00:37:52,547
Speaker 15: actually having Zach folks coming around the wicket at the

659
00:37:52,587 --> 00:37:55,227
Speaker 15: city end to try and build that up. But we'll

660
00:37:55,227 --> 00:37:57,267
Speaker 15: wait and see if that progresses over the course of

661
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Speaker 15: the day and onward beyond that.

662
00:37:59,427 --> 00:38:01,867
Speaker 2: Ajaz Battel is in the side of course, looking for

663
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Speaker 2: that a looser first Test wicket on home soil, eighty

664
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Speaker 2: five of them off shore, none on homesol. Yet how

665
00:38:08,867 --> 00:38:11,027
Speaker 2: bigger part is he played this morning? How big a

666
00:38:11,107 --> 00:38:13,347
Speaker 2: role mighty play in this Test match for New Zealand.

667
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Speaker 15: I think the arts there is very little for today,

668
00:38:17,907 --> 00:38:21,827
Speaker 15: hasn't looked really effective so far. But I think across

669
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Speaker 15: the course of the Test match, yes, he will go

670
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Speaker 15: on to really make his mark. I mean he's a

671
00:38:27,107 --> 00:38:29,467
Speaker 15: tidy bowls. We see him and from the city end

672
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Speaker 15: now and I look at his record at this crowd.

673
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Speaker 15: I think he's taken twenty four wickets in six matches.

674
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Speaker 15: He's averaging twenty four point nine to one, so he

675
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Speaker 15: knows how to do it. As games go on at

676
00:38:41,307 --> 00:38:43,907
Speaker 15: Bayo will Jacob Duffy another who's impressive at this venue

677
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Speaker 15: twenty three wickets at seventeen point eight from five matches,

678
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Speaker 15: so they do know how to do it to these

679
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Speaker 15: New Zealand bowlers at the venue. So we'll see how

680
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Speaker 15: that progresses.

681
00:38:53,627 --> 00:38:56,347
Speaker 2: So New Zealand declared yesterday five seventy five for eight.

682
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Speaker 2: I guess when they declared their idea was we only

683
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Speaker 2: bat once in this Test match. So if the Western

684
00:39:02,187 --> 00:39:04,387
Speaker 2: News can get through to three hundred and seventy six,

685
00:39:04,747 --> 00:39:07,107
Speaker 2: they'll avoid that. Follow on if they were to get

686
00:39:07,107 --> 00:39:09,507
Speaker 2: to three seven six. Is there a result possible in

687
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Speaker 2: this Test match?

688
00:39:11,267 --> 00:39:14,307
Speaker 15: I think there is as the pitch deteriorates further. But

689
00:39:14,747 --> 00:39:17,067
Speaker 15: at this stage the Western is looking well, I think

690
00:39:17,427 --> 00:39:19,827
Speaker 15: as comfortable as we've seen them since christ Edge. At

691
00:39:19,907 --> 00:39:23,867
Speaker 15: least they've still got the batting lineup they've got. They

692
00:39:23,867 --> 00:39:26,507
Speaker 15: haven't got Shay Hope yet moment. He's got some sort

693
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Speaker 15: of undefined or uncalled illness at the moment he was

694
00:39:29,747 --> 00:39:32,667
Speaker 15: off the field yesterday, so he can only come in

695
00:39:32,707 --> 00:39:35,747
Speaker 15: at seven or below. But we have seen this batting

696
00:39:35,747 --> 00:39:39,107
Speaker 15: lineup but deliver on occasion, and Hope he's a key

697
00:39:39,147 --> 00:39:41,867
Speaker 15: part of that. But at this point with Hodge there

698
00:39:41,867 --> 00:39:44,547
Speaker 15: on forty seven, in Mark who's moved up from number

699
00:39:44,587 --> 00:39:48,467
Speaker 15: seven into the number four spot on twenty five looking

700
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Speaker 15: relatively culture and we know what Justin Graves can produce

701
00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:55,347
Speaker 15: with that double century in christ Church at any stage

702
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Speaker 15: in a Test match. And yeah, speaking to this day

703
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Speaker 15: Grazes in the press conference, I think there's a degree

704
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Speaker 15: of confidence in the West Indies lineup.

705
00:40:02,787 --> 00:40:06,547
Speaker 2: Indeed, and they're batting in that fashion. Thanks orders. Enjoy

706
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Speaker 2: the remainder of the session, but at lunch and we'll

707
00:40:08,947 --> 00:40:10,667
Speaker 2: catch you in the middle session of that suits your

708
00:40:10,987 --> 00:40:14,187
Speaker 2: you're very busy schedule at the bay.

709
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Speaker 15: Looking forward to actually pinty. Just one other highlight was

710
00:40:16,267 --> 00:40:19,347
Speaker 15: the Grinch came and swept the pitch here, so getting

711
00:40:19,347 --> 00:40:21,587
Speaker 15: into the Christmas spirits, you might say, I did think

712
00:40:21,587 --> 00:40:24,107
Speaker 15: there was a nice touch from the bay Oval staff,

713
00:40:24,827 --> 00:40:27,747
Speaker 15: but gave it a jolly good sweep in the salty

714
00:40:27,787 --> 00:40:29,747
Speaker 15: air coming across the mountain here.

715
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Speaker 2: Various seasonal go on your orders. Thanks made. Andrew Ordison

716
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Speaker 2: reporting live from bay Oval, a third day of the

717
00:40:35,707 --> 00:40:37,827
Speaker 2: third Test the West and he's one ninety nine for

718
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Speaker 2: two in their first inning seven to one. US talksb.

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Speaker 1: The Scoon from the drag fields and the Court on

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Speaker 1: Your Home of Sorts Weekends for it with the Jason

721
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Speaker 1: vine Us Talks.

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Speaker 2: MB four to one. Australia are going along very nicely

723
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Speaker 2: at the Adelaide Oval. They lead by three hundred and

724
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Speaker 2: eighty four runs. They're two ninety nine for four in

725
00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:01,387
Speaker 2: their second innings with Travis Head and Alex Carey having

726
00:41:01,507 --> 00:41:03,907
Speaker 2: just brought up their one hundred and fifty run partnership

727
00:41:04,187 --> 00:41:07,227
Speaker 2: unbroken for the fifth wicket, so they bat on and

728
00:41:07,467 --> 00:41:09,867
Speaker 2: on an Adelaide Head one hundred and sixty four not out,

729
00:41:10,147 --> 00:41:12,867
Speaker 2: Alex Carey unbeaten on sixty one. The Western He's one

730
00:41:12,987 --> 00:41:15,787
Speaker 2: ninety nine for two, trailing by three hundred and seventy

731
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Speaker 2: six runs at Bay Oval. News next at one and

732
00:41:19,107 --> 00:41:22,107
Speaker 2: then Luke Metcalf to join us on the show When

733
00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:23,507
Speaker 2: is he going to be back?

734
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

735
00:41:28,627 --> 00:41:32,507
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason

736
00:41:32,587 --> 00:41:36,987
Speaker 1: Vane on Your Home of Sport in New York's N.

737
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Speaker 2: One O seven. Welcome in or welcome back. This is

738
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Speaker 2: Weekend's Sport on News Talks NB for Saturday December The

739
00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:46,467
Speaker 2: twentieth Luke Metcalf standing by the chat to us. I

740
00:41:46,627 --> 00:41:49,547
Speaker 2: think I've heard from Luke since back into last year

741
00:41:49,707 --> 00:41:52,347
Speaker 2: he re signed with the Warriors, didn't He's been undergoing

742
00:41:52,907 --> 00:41:57,467
Speaker 2: a rehabilitation program from the ACL injury he suffered sort

743
00:41:57,507 --> 00:42:00,587
Speaker 2: of midway through last season. How's he tracking and when's

744
00:42:00,587 --> 00:42:01,707
Speaker 2: he going to be back? When are we going to

745
00:42:01,747 --> 00:42:04,427
Speaker 2: see Luke Metcalf back out there, because he was terrific

746
00:42:04,587 --> 00:42:07,467
Speaker 2: last season in the games that he played. He was

747
00:42:07,547 --> 00:42:09,747
Speaker 2: leading dally M when they went behind closed doors with

748
00:42:10,907 --> 00:42:14,787
Speaker 2: that voting process running the cutter for the Warriors, looking

749
00:42:14,947 --> 00:42:17,147
Speaker 2: really really good. So let's hope that we get a

750
00:42:18,067 --> 00:42:20,067
Speaker 2: maybe not a full season. I'm hearing sort of around

751
00:42:20,147 --> 00:42:22,107
Speaker 2: four to five are and about their little bit to

752
00:42:22,147 --> 00:42:25,267
Speaker 2: tell us, but certainly the vast majority of the twenty

753
00:42:25,307 --> 00:42:28,107
Speaker 2: twenty six season with Luke Metcalf and the number seven

754
00:42:28,427 --> 00:42:30,427
Speaker 2: jumper Whitney Hanson's on the show this hour as well

755
00:42:30,947 --> 00:42:33,067
Speaker 2: New Blackburn's coach and Adam Peacock out of Australia. I

756
00:42:33,107 --> 00:42:34,867
Speaker 2: believe him to be in Adelaide so we can check

757
00:42:34,907 --> 00:42:39,747
Speaker 2: in with him on Ashes Matters. Textra on the conversation

758
00:42:39,867 --> 00:42:42,667
Speaker 2: for the last hour pony Iwick in professional sport as

759
00:42:42,707 --> 00:42:45,547
Speaker 2: a senior executive twenty years ago. I've since worked in

760
00:42:45,587 --> 00:42:50,147
Speaker 2: the commercial world as an exec alongside sports governance roles.

761
00:42:50,627 --> 00:42:52,387
Speaker 2: I'd be very well suited to the ends at our

762
00:42:52,507 --> 00:42:56,267
Speaker 2: CEO job, but it's paying a quarter of what I

763
00:42:56,467 --> 00:42:59,707
Speaker 2: currently earn. I can't understand why they're not paying a

764
00:42:59,747 --> 00:43:03,187
Speaker 2: lot more given their commercial base, the requirements of the job,

765
00:43:03,307 --> 00:43:05,747
Speaker 2: and what they pay top players. It makes no sense.

766
00:43:06,347 --> 00:43:10,387
Speaker 2: As a result, they'll get a suboptimal candidate base in

767
00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:13,987
Speaker 2: my opinion. Thank you very much for your text. I agree.

768
00:43:15,027 --> 00:43:17,747
Speaker 2: I totally agree. You look at what top executives are

769
00:43:17,787 --> 00:43:20,867
Speaker 2: getting paid now and whether or not you agree with it,

770
00:43:21,027 --> 00:43:25,787
Speaker 2: that's the market. So if you're looking for somebody who

771
00:43:25,907 --> 00:43:28,507
Speaker 2: ticks a lot of boxes on the skills matrix as

772
00:43:28,587 --> 00:43:31,627
Speaker 2: they call it, and who has the ability to run

773
00:43:32,827 --> 00:43:37,227
Speaker 2: our biggest sport, then you're not I don't think going

774
00:43:37,267 --> 00:43:41,027
Speaker 2: to get a high quality of candidates for the package

775
00:43:41,027 --> 00:43:45,107
Speaker 2: of benefits that's being offered, particularly given the relentless nature

776
00:43:45,147 --> 00:43:48,067
Speaker 2: of the job. I said during the week might have

777
00:43:48,147 --> 00:43:51,947
Speaker 2: mean to Heather or Ryan on one of the slots

778
00:43:51,987 --> 00:43:54,867
Speaker 2: on their shows. The problem with being the head of

779
00:43:54,907 --> 00:43:56,987
Speaker 2: New Zealand rugby. And this probably goes for cricket and

780
00:43:57,067 --> 00:43:59,867
Speaker 2: some other sports as well, is that if anything goes

781
00:43:59,907 --> 00:44:03,107
Speaker 2: wrong with the sport, it's your fault. If junior numbers

782
00:44:03,107 --> 00:44:05,707
Speaker 2: are down, it's your fault. If our under twenties aren't winning,

783
00:44:05,707 --> 00:44:08,107
Speaker 2: it's your fault. If crowd numbers are down, If MPC

784
00:44:08,387 --> 00:44:10,787
Speaker 2: or Super Rugby, it's your fault. If the All Blacks lose,

785
00:44:10,827 --> 00:44:14,547
Speaker 2: it's your fault. It's relentless twenty four to seven. So

786
00:44:14,667 --> 00:44:17,147
Speaker 2: there's got to be some give back for that as well.

787
00:44:17,227 --> 00:44:18,747
Speaker 2: And as I mentioned last hour, you have to be

788
00:44:18,787 --> 00:44:22,227
Speaker 2: able to move with all the different parts of the

789
00:44:22,387 --> 00:44:26,787
Speaker 2: rugby pyramid, from grassroots, those in the clubs, the volunteers

790
00:44:27,307 --> 00:44:29,227
Speaker 2: who are the backbone of our game, right up to

791
00:44:29,267 --> 00:44:32,787
Speaker 2: the top table at World Rugby and in boardrooms of

792
00:44:33,147 --> 00:44:36,227
Speaker 2: top corporates who you're trying to convince to part with

793
00:44:36,387 --> 00:44:40,387
Speaker 2: millions and sometimes tens of millions of dollars to align

794
00:44:40,427 --> 00:44:43,627
Speaker 2: themselves with the All Blacks and New Zealand Rugby. You're

795
00:44:43,667 --> 00:44:46,107
Speaker 2: not going to get somebody who can do all those

796
00:44:46,227 --> 00:44:50,627
Speaker 2: things for a small salary package. Anyway, we wait to

797
00:44:50,667 --> 00:44:53,507
Speaker 2: see twenty twenty six will be very interesting to see

798
00:44:53,547 --> 00:44:57,107
Speaker 2: who fills that role and also the top jobs at

799
00:44:57,187 --> 00:45:00,667
Speaker 2: New Zealand Cricket and Netball New Zealand. Gary has sent

800
00:45:00,747 --> 00:45:05,907
Speaker 2: through an email you mentioned last week about waiting in

801
00:45:05,987 --> 00:45:09,107
Speaker 2: the car while somebody else does the Christmas shopping while

802
00:45:09,147 --> 00:45:11,587
Speaker 2: waiting for family friends to come back from shopping malls.

803
00:45:12,147 --> 00:45:15,307
Speaker 2: Says Gary, I have my transis to radio to listen

804
00:45:15,387 --> 00:45:17,867
Speaker 2: to three hours of weekend sport instead of using the

805
00:45:17,987 --> 00:45:21,227
Speaker 2: car radio and possibly flattening the battery. Also, I don't

806
00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:24,387
Speaker 2: sit in the driver's seat while waiting as other drivers

807
00:45:24,427 --> 00:45:26,947
Speaker 2: going past the car's about to move out, So be

808
00:45:27,107 --> 00:45:30,827
Speaker 2: sensible and courteous. Sit in the passenger seat, says Gary.

809
00:45:30,947 --> 00:45:33,827
Speaker 2: Or even the back seat listening to the radio, so

810
00:45:34,027 --> 00:45:36,747
Speaker 2: other drivers know your car's not moving out and it

811
00:45:36,827 --> 00:45:38,587
Speaker 2: stops the hassle of them coming up to knock on

812
00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:42,347
Speaker 2: the window asking when you're moving. Same applies at airport's hospitals,

813
00:45:42,467 --> 00:45:45,667
Speaker 2: railway stations. Thank you, Gary, very good advice for those

814
00:45:45,707 --> 00:45:47,867
Speaker 2: of you who are listening, perhaps in a shopping mall

815
00:45:47,947 --> 00:45:50,467
Speaker 2: car park, maybe flip across to the passenger seat or

816
00:45:50,507 --> 00:45:53,747
Speaker 2: into the back seat. It's great advice from Gary. Great advice.

817
00:45:53,987 --> 00:45:56,747
Speaker 2: You heard the lunch score from Bay Oval during our

818
00:45:56,787 --> 00:45:58,787
Speaker 2: Sports News two hundred and six for two the West

819
00:45:58,827 --> 00:46:02,467
Speaker 2: Indies trailing New Zealand by three hundred and sixty nine runs.

820
00:46:02,547 --> 00:46:04,987
Speaker 2: Jacob Duffy's picked up both wickets to fall today and

821
00:46:05,147 --> 00:46:07,467
Speaker 2: to the ashes very quickly three hundred and sixteen for

822
00:46:07,667 --> 00:46:10,987
Speaker 2: five Now Alex Kerry is still there sixty eight not out.

823
00:46:11,267 --> 00:46:15,947
Speaker 2: Travis Head has finally been dismissed, caught by Zach Crawley

824
00:46:15,987 --> 00:46:19,067
Speaker 2: from the bowling of Josh Tungu for one hundred and seventy.

825
00:46:20,027 --> 00:46:23,107
Speaker 2: That is the fourth consecutive Test match at the Adelaide

826
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Speaker 2: Oval in which Travis Head has scored a century. He

827
00:46:26,787 --> 00:46:31,227
Speaker 2: absolutely loves that ground. Adam Peacock along with more from

828
00:46:31,307 --> 00:46:34,427
Speaker 2: Adelaide this hour twelve past one. Great to get the

829
00:46:34,507 --> 00:46:37,267
Speaker 2: chance now though, to catch up with Warriors halfback Luke

830
00:46:37,587 --> 00:46:40,507
Speaker 2: metcalf to check on his progress ahead of the twenty

831
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Speaker 2: twenty six NRL season. He scored eight tries and fifteen

832
00:46:43,747 --> 00:46:46,747
Speaker 2: appearances for the Warriors last year. Or last season, he

833
00:46:46,867 --> 00:46:48,907
Speaker 2: was one of the best playmakers in the comp He

834
00:46:49,027 --> 00:46:51,867
Speaker 2: was the Warriors goalkicker and was leading the dally M

835
00:46:51,987 --> 00:46:54,467
Speaker 2: race when the voting went behind closed doors at the

836
00:46:54,547 --> 00:46:58,867
Speaker 2: halfway point of the season. Unfortunately, his season was cruelly

837
00:46:58,987 --> 00:47:02,507
Speaker 2: cut short by an ACL injury he suffered in June.

838
00:47:03,467 --> 00:47:05,987
Speaker 16: He's in troubled with at the moment, Metcalf. Here, he

839
00:47:06,547 --> 00:47:09,027
Speaker 16: cannot He's not going to finish the game.

840
00:47:09,107 --> 00:47:09,227
Speaker 9: Here.

841
00:47:09,427 --> 00:47:13,387
Speaker 16: It was a brutal shot. We're watching that in slow

842
00:47:13,507 --> 00:47:15,387
Speaker 16: moving Yeah, at full speed.

843
00:47:15,947 --> 00:47:16,867
Speaker 7: I was okay with it.

844
00:47:17,307 --> 00:47:18,747
Speaker 8: I love bet Cap, don't get.

845
00:47:18,667 --> 00:47:20,347
Speaker 7: Me wrong, but I was okay with that.

846
00:47:21,107 --> 00:47:23,547
Speaker 2: We don't like seeing this. We're seeing her half being

847
00:47:23,827 --> 00:47:26,787
Speaker 2: carried off the field. Yeah. So that's Luke Metcalf and

848
00:47:26,907 --> 00:47:29,267
Speaker 2: his final action if you can call it out of

849
00:47:29,347 --> 00:47:32,267
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. So where is he in twenty twenty

850
00:47:32,347 --> 00:47:35,347
Speaker 2: six or going into twenty twenty six? Joined by Luke Metcalf. Luke,

851
00:47:35,387 --> 00:47:37,027
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat mate, Great

852
00:47:37,067 --> 00:47:38,947
Speaker 2: to great to have you on the show. How is

853
00:47:38,987 --> 00:47:42,987
Speaker 2: the recovery and the rehab from your injury? Going?

854
00:47:43,707 --> 00:47:46,187
Speaker 8: Hey man, Yeah, thanks for having me. It's yeah, it's

855
00:47:46,227 --> 00:47:46,867
Speaker 8: going really good.

856
00:47:46,987 --> 00:47:51,147
Speaker 17: I'm about just over halfway, i'd probably say of my rehabits,

857
00:47:51,187 --> 00:47:54,027
Speaker 17: it's about nine months for an Aco. Yeah, it's actually

858
00:47:54,067 --> 00:47:56,307
Speaker 17: gone really good. I couldn't ask for it to go

859
00:47:56,547 --> 00:48:00,187
Speaker 17: any smooth or any better. So I'm running and doing

860
00:48:00,227 --> 00:48:02,107
Speaker 17: a lot of agility and stuff like that at the moment.

861
00:48:02,227 --> 00:48:03,747
Speaker 17: So yeah, it's sort of you can see the light

862
00:48:03,867 --> 00:48:04,587
Speaker 17: down of the tunnel, but.

863
00:48:04,587 --> 00:48:06,907
Speaker 8: At the moment it's just more of a pay game.

864
00:48:07,027 --> 00:48:08,507
Speaker 17: Just got to Yeah, just got to be smart and

865
00:48:08,667 --> 00:48:11,467
Speaker 17: know that won't bit too far to I can get

866
00:48:11,507 --> 00:48:12,747
Speaker 17: back with the team and start training.

867
00:48:12,987 --> 00:48:15,827
Speaker 2: You've used the exact word I had written down here patients.

868
00:48:15,907 --> 00:48:18,907
Speaker 2: How challenging has it been to be patient with this?

869
00:48:20,027 --> 00:48:22,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, it's obviously hard to sort of you know,

870
00:48:22,707 --> 00:48:24,507
Speaker 17: when when you have an injury, you sort of sometimes

871
00:48:24,587 --> 00:48:26,707
Speaker 17: you think you're further ahead than what you are and

872
00:48:26,787 --> 00:48:28,467
Speaker 17: you can sort of do certain things. But yeah, I've

873
00:48:28,827 --> 00:48:30,387
Speaker 17: one thing I've come to realize, you just got to

874
00:48:30,467 --> 00:48:33,187
Speaker 17: You've got to trust your course and know that what

875
00:48:33,387 --> 00:48:35,267
Speaker 17: what you're getting prescribed and what you're doing that's the

876
00:48:35,587 --> 00:48:37,147
Speaker 17: that's the right thing, and you just got to follow that.

877
00:48:37,227 --> 00:48:39,107
Speaker 17: And it's it's hard when you see the boys out

878
00:48:39,107 --> 00:48:41,347
Speaker 17: in the field and they're off doing their thing and

879
00:48:41,387 --> 00:48:42,907
Speaker 17: they're doing all the cool stuff that you want to

880
00:48:42,947 --> 00:48:44,947
Speaker 17: be doing. You're off to the side doing your rehab running,

881
00:48:44,987 --> 00:48:47,307
Speaker 17: but you just got to know that that's not too

882
00:48:47,387 --> 00:48:48,987
Speaker 17: far away. It's only a couple of months away too,

883
00:48:48,987 --> 00:48:51,987
Speaker 17: you'll be there, so yeah, just got to be patient

884
00:48:52,027 --> 00:48:54,867
Speaker 17: and yeah you know that, like, yeah, the light is

885
00:48:54,867 --> 00:48:56,747
Speaker 17: at the end of the tunnel and you'll get there eventually,

886
00:48:56,787 --> 00:48:58,467
Speaker 17: and well, it all work out.

887
00:48:58,867 --> 00:49:01,587
Speaker 2: So what are the specific milestones to come over the

888
00:49:01,667 --> 00:49:04,067
Speaker 2: next couple of months or so? For example, are you

889
00:49:04,227 --> 00:49:06,067
Speaker 2: changing direction when you're running at the moment or not?

890
00:49:07,147 --> 00:49:09,347
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's one of the at the start,

891
00:49:09,787 --> 00:49:11,747
Speaker 17: A big one is sort of like getting your legs

892
00:49:11,787 --> 00:49:14,827
Speaker 17: straight and bending properly, you know, after surgery because it

893
00:49:14,867 --> 00:49:17,427
Speaker 17: can get pretty swollen. And then after that, it's probably

894
00:49:17,427 --> 00:49:20,347
Speaker 17: around the eleven week mark. I had a little run,

895
00:49:20,947 --> 00:49:23,347
Speaker 17: and then that's another one. Then sort of after a

896
00:49:23,427 --> 00:49:24,947
Speaker 17: month or so after that, you start doing a little

897
00:49:24,947 --> 00:49:28,907
Speaker 17: bit of change of direction and then you deaccelerating and

898
00:49:29,067 --> 00:49:31,587
Speaker 17: accelerating again, all that sort of stuff. So you sort

899
00:49:31,627 --> 00:49:34,027
Speaker 17: of sort i'd say, yeah, every four weeks there's probably

900
00:49:34,067 --> 00:49:36,627
Speaker 17: something new that you're probably doing, and there's something so yeah,

901
00:49:36,707 --> 00:49:40,467
Speaker 17: so there's a few milestones that you can hit and yeah,

902
00:49:40,467 --> 00:49:42,707
Speaker 17: there's probably probably still got a couple more to go,

903
00:49:42,947 --> 00:49:45,507
Speaker 17: but yeah, every time I've done something new so far,

904
00:49:45,627 --> 00:49:48,347
Speaker 17: it's felt it's felt really good, and I'm confident in

905
00:49:49,107 --> 00:49:52,227
Speaker 17: how it's feeling. So leeah, I'm just really excited to

906
00:49:52,467 --> 00:49:53,787
Speaker 17: get back and get stuck into it.

907
00:49:54,067 --> 00:49:56,907
Speaker 2: As Warriors fans, and I need to ask the question

908
00:49:56,987 --> 00:49:59,107
Speaker 2: that everybody wants to know the answer to, and you

909
00:49:59,227 --> 00:50:02,307
Speaker 2: might not even know it, but when might we possibly

910
00:50:02,427 --> 00:50:05,067
Speaker 2: see you feature for the Warriors in twenty twenty six?

911
00:50:06,747 --> 00:50:08,387
Speaker 8: I would probably say it's funny.

912
00:50:08,427 --> 00:50:10,147
Speaker 17: I know that all the kids are saying six seven

913
00:50:10,187 --> 00:50:13,947
Speaker 17: these days, so I would I'm back around about round

914
00:50:14,027 --> 00:50:20,827
Speaker 17: six or seven to like, yes, is one months, so yeah, yeah,

915
00:50:20,867 --> 00:50:23,307
Speaker 17: but I'd like to put it trying not to make

916
00:50:23,347 --> 00:50:24,667
Speaker 17: me laugh, but yeah, around.

917
00:50:26,187 --> 00:50:29,067
Speaker 8: Around six. It's about nine months around there, so yes,

918
00:50:29,707 --> 00:50:30,427
Speaker 8: yeah around there.

919
00:50:30,427 --> 00:50:32,587
Speaker 17: If I miss I miss four games, miss four games

920
00:50:32,587 --> 00:50:34,907
Speaker 17: from miss five games, as five, I'm not too not

921
00:50:35,027 --> 00:50:37,467
Speaker 17: too fuss like in that sense. I know I say

922
00:50:37,507 --> 00:50:38,747
Speaker 17: that now, but I know I'll come around one and

923
00:50:38,787 --> 00:50:41,427
Speaker 17: I want to play on that hard. But yeah, I

924
00:50:41,507 --> 00:50:43,467
Speaker 17: just got to be got to be smart. And it's

925
00:50:43,707 --> 00:50:46,907
Speaker 17: a long season. That's it goes for six months, so

926
00:50:46,987 --> 00:50:48,067
Speaker 17: you know what I mean it, See if I miss

927
00:50:48,107 --> 00:50:49,867
Speaker 17: a few painful of games at the start.

928
00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:50,027
Speaker 18: Of the year.

929
00:50:50,307 --> 00:50:53,907
Speaker 17: That'll just make me more motivated to come into the

930
00:50:53,987 --> 00:50:56,507
Speaker 17: team and play good. So yeah, it's yeah, I'm not

931
00:50:56,627 --> 00:50:58,267
Speaker 17: not focusing on that too much at the moment.

932
00:50:58,307 --> 00:51:00,667
Speaker 8: I'm sure when around one comes, I'll be chomping at

933
00:51:00,707 --> 00:51:01,907
Speaker 8: the bit to get to get in there.

934
00:51:02,347 --> 00:51:05,187
Speaker 2: Is this the longest you've been out during your professional career?

935
00:51:06,427 --> 00:51:06,587
Speaker 1: Ah?

936
00:51:06,747 --> 00:51:09,027
Speaker 17: Yeah, so actually I told my ACL when I was

937
00:51:09,707 --> 00:51:12,587
Speaker 17: at mainly when I was about nineteen or twenty so,

938
00:51:13,107 --> 00:51:15,387
Speaker 17: but I hadn't payed first grade then or anything, But yeah,

939
00:51:15,627 --> 00:51:18,187
Speaker 17: this would be I sort of lucky in a sense

940
00:51:18,227 --> 00:51:21,027
Speaker 17: that a lot of the period of this injury has

941
00:51:21,067 --> 00:51:23,067
Speaker 17: been in the off season, so it's probably that's probably

942
00:51:23,067 --> 00:51:24,867
Speaker 17: the only positive. At the time I did it, I

943
00:51:24,987 --> 00:51:27,547
Speaker 17: missed finals and the back end of the season, but

944
00:51:28,107 --> 00:51:31,067
Speaker 17: I sawt about five months of it. Six months of

945
00:51:31,147 --> 00:51:33,387
Speaker 17: it is actually not even when games are on, so

946
00:51:33,467 --> 00:51:35,147
Speaker 17: that's probably there's a positive to take from it.

947
00:51:35,187 --> 00:51:35,827
Speaker 8: That's probably one.

948
00:51:36,307 --> 00:51:38,627
Speaker 2: How closely connected were you able to stay with the

949
00:51:38,707 --> 00:51:42,627
Speaker 2: squad during your your rehabilitation and and as it continues,

950
00:51:42,707 --> 00:51:44,787
Speaker 2: have you stayed closely connected to the playing group?

951
00:51:45,827 --> 00:51:46,027
Speaker 5: Yeah?

952
00:51:46,107 --> 00:51:48,947
Speaker 8: Yeah, it Actually it's harder than you think.

953
00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:51,627
Speaker 17: It's sort of because you saw you're playing every week

954
00:51:51,707 --> 00:51:53,387
Speaker 17: and you're around the squad, and then all of a sudden,

955
00:51:53,627 --> 00:51:55,227
Speaker 17: when I hurt myself, I was probably a way for

956
00:51:56,947 --> 00:52:00,027
Speaker 17: I went back to Australia for probably two weeks, three weeks,

957
00:52:00,147 --> 00:52:02,987
Speaker 17: and then came back on my surgery and then that

958
00:52:03,107 --> 00:52:04,027
Speaker 17: was probably another two weeks.

959
00:52:04,067 --> 00:52:04,427
Speaker 19: I was the way.

960
00:52:04,507 --> 00:52:05,907
Speaker 17: Yeah, so I sort of, yeah, sort of is a

961
00:52:05,907 --> 00:52:09,427
Speaker 17: bit harder start to feel that connection. That's something that

962
00:52:10,147 --> 00:52:11,947
Speaker 17: where we actually spoke to me about, you know, still

963
00:52:11,987 --> 00:52:14,347
Speaker 17: having a presence in the in the team meetings and

964
00:52:14,467 --> 00:52:18,827
Speaker 17: still like talking to players and coaches about about things.

965
00:52:18,867 --> 00:52:20,987
Speaker 8: So yeah, us, so I try to actively work on that.

966
00:52:21,107 --> 00:52:23,427
Speaker 17: And now it's it's a little bit easier because everyone's

967
00:52:23,467 --> 00:52:25,867
Speaker 17: in we're training five six days a week, so it's

968
00:52:25,867 --> 00:52:28,867
Speaker 17: a bit easy now. And I'm starting to slowly train

969
00:52:28,907 --> 00:52:31,147
Speaker 17: at the same time as the boys, and so it's

970
00:52:31,147 --> 00:52:32,667
Speaker 17: a little bit easy now. But it actually is something

971
00:52:32,667 --> 00:52:34,827
Speaker 17: that you have to actively work at because otherwise it's

972
00:52:34,867 --> 00:52:37,147
Speaker 17: real easy to come into your rehabit and you're done

973
00:52:37,267 --> 00:52:39,907
Speaker 17: before those other boys are sort of around. So yeah,

974
00:52:39,907 --> 00:52:42,467
Speaker 17: it's and I love to talk, so I like to

975
00:52:43,067 --> 00:52:45,667
Speaker 17: be around the boys and have conversations and stuff like that.

976
00:52:45,947 --> 00:52:47,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I guess it could be. I mean, as

977
00:52:47,507 --> 00:52:49,907
Speaker 2: you say, you know, you're a you're a pretty pretty

978
00:52:49,947 --> 00:52:51,347
Speaker 2: extroverted sort of a guy. You want to be in

979
00:52:51,427 --> 00:52:53,587
Speaker 2: and around your teammates, and I'm sure, as you say,

980
00:52:53,627 --> 00:52:56,307
Speaker 2: you consciously did that. But because it must be I

981
00:52:56,387 --> 00:52:58,987
Speaker 2: guess more difficult for somebody who isn't that way that

982
00:52:59,067 --> 00:53:01,387
Speaker 2: they feel a little bit isolated. Have you seen that

983
00:53:01,547 --> 00:53:04,147
Speaker 2: happen with injuries like this maybe in other players in

984
00:53:04,187 --> 00:53:04,587
Speaker 2: the past.

985
00:53:05,867 --> 00:53:08,347
Speaker 8: Yeah, for no doubt that that would have happened.

986
00:53:08,627 --> 00:53:11,227
Speaker 17: No one specific pops to mind, but yeah, it is

987
00:53:11,307 --> 00:53:14,587
Speaker 17: really hard, especially if you're luck, We'll just say you're

988
00:53:14,587 --> 00:53:17,507
Speaker 17: a younger kid. You're about nineteen twenty and you're sort

989
00:53:17,547 --> 00:53:19,907
Speaker 17: of still finding your feet in and around the first

990
00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:22,067
Speaker 17: grade team and training with them every day and being

991
00:53:22,067 --> 00:53:22,547
Speaker 17: a professional.

992
00:53:22,587 --> 00:53:23,667
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, it is.

993
00:53:24,027 --> 00:53:26,787
Speaker 17: It's probably something that people probably don't really think about,

994
00:53:26,947 --> 00:53:28,827
Speaker 17: but yeah, it is hard. You know, you're trying to

995
00:53:28,867 --> 00:53:32,347
Speaker 17: find yourself and how you fit into in a room

996
00:53:32,427 --> 00:53:35,267
Speaker 17: with thirty other males who are all some of our

997
00:53:35,387 --> 00:53:37,947
Speaker 17: thirty years old, who've got two kids, and they've got

998
00:53:37,987 --> 00:53:39,307
Speaker 17: there on a completely different side of.

999
00:53:39,307 --> 00:53:40,147
Speaker 8: Life to some people.

1000
00:53:40,227 --> 00:53:42,107
Speaker 17: So it's yeah, it is hard, but I feel like

1001
00:53:42,187 --> 00:53:45,867
Speaker 17: we've got a really good team and individuals who are

1002
00:53:46,027 --> 00:53:49,307
Speaker 17: really welcoming and we're really connected as a group. So

1003
00:53:49,387 --> 00:53:52,067
Speaker 17: I feel like, yeah, at the Warriors especially, I would

1004
00:53:52,067 --> 00:53:54,027
Speaker 17: say it's pretty it's a lot easier for those guys

1005
00:53:54,067 --> 00:53:55,747
Speaker 17: to feel welcomed.

1006
00:53:55,907 --> 00:53:58,347
Speaker 2: After your injury. It was Tanner Boyd who wore the

1007
00:53:58,387 --> 00:54:00,227
Speaker 2: seven jersey most of and I think to Mighty Martin

1008
00:54:00,267 --> 00:54:02,987
Speaker 2: had a game there, but it was mainly Tanner Boyd.

1009
00:54:03,067 --> 00:54:05,907
Speaker 2: How did you assess how he went in that jumper?

1010
00:54:06,867 --> 00:54:08,187
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think he went good.

1011
00:54:08,227 --> 00:54:10,307
Speaker 17: I think yeah, the boys, like I said, Tea had

1012
00:54:10,307 --> 00:54:13,027
Speaker 17: a little bit there and Chanelle playing in the six

1013
00:54:13,147 --> 00:54:13,547
Speaker 17: jersey too.

1014
00:54:13,627 --> 00:54:15,107
Speaker 8: Yes, I feel like those boys went good.

1015
00:54:15,107 --> 00:54:17,987
Speaker 17: It was obviously like change up towards the end end

1016
00:54:18,067 --> 00:54:20,387
Speaker 17: of the year, so they had to sort of get

1017
00:54:20,387 --> 00:54:21,347
Speaker 17: a customed pretty quick.

1018
00:54:22,027 --> 00:54:23,547
Speaker 8: But I think I think it'll put us in good

1019
00:54:23,587 --> 00:54:25,547
Speaker 8: stead for next year.

1020
00:54:25,947 --> 00:54:28,227
Speaker 17: Having like sort of everyone's had played a little bit

1021
00:54:28,267 --> 00:54:32,427
Speaker 17: of game time now together and sort of yeah, just

1022
00:54:32,507 --> 00:54:35,187
Speaker 17: sort of see who can see what everyone can do.

1023
00:54:35,187 --> 00:54:37,267
Speaker 17: And yeah, I'm excited for the for the preseason to

1024
00:54:37,307 --> 00:54:40,387
Speaker 17: sort of see how those boys train, and yes, we'll

1025
00:54:40,427 --> 00:54:40,907
Speaker 17: go from there.

1026
00:54:41,347 --> 00:54:43,187
Speaker 2: Of course, you were coming off contract at the end

1027
00:54:43,267 --> 00:54:46,627
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six, but signed a contract extension at

1028
00:54:46,667 --> 00:54:48,907
Speaker 2: the back end of October. Like, was there ever a

1029
00:54:48,987 --> 00:54:50,907
Speaker 2: thought in your mind that you might move somewhere else?

1030
00:54:52,347 --> 00:54:53,027
Speaker 8: No, not really.

1031
00:54:54,347 --> 00:54:55,787
Speaker 17: A lot of the stuff probably to do with my

1032
00:54:55,907 --> 00:54:58,507
Speaker 17: Warriors deal was a lot a lot of just like

1033
00:54:58,667 --> 00:55:00,587
Speaker 17: I got married and then I went to Fiji, when

1034
00:55:00,667 --> 00:55:02,827
Speaker 17: ye went on my honeymoon, and then yeah, sort of

1035
00:55:02,827 --> 00:55:05,427
Speaker 17: a bit of stuff started getting talked about. But yeah,

1036
00:55:05,507 --> 00:55:07,147
Speaker 17: I was more more or less just sort of figuring

1037
00:55:07,227 --> 00:55:10,947
Speaker 17: that just little tiny details in the contract out as

1038
00:55:11,027 --> 00:55:12,627
Speaker 17: cliche as that sounds, but yeah.

1039
00:55:12,467 --> 00:55:13,587
Speaker 8: That's that's what it was.

1040
00:55:13,667 --> 00:55:15,467
Speaker 17: And I knew what we've got here, what we've got

1041
00:55:15,507 --> 00:55:19,027
Speaker 17: as a squad, like the way where you handed me

1042
00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:20,027
Speaker 17: the keys of the team and.

1043
00:55:20,587 --> 00:55:21,987
Speaker 8: Said, like you're you're my half back.

1044
00:55:22,027 --> 00:55:24,547
Speaker 17: I want you to lead this team, and yeah, it

1045
00:55:24,707 --> 00:55:26,947
Speaker 17: just it feels me a so nice excitement and just

1046
00:55:27,027 --> 00:55:29,227
Speaker 17: seeing the potential in this team like you saw this year,

1047
00:55:29,427 --> 00:55:33,027
Speaker 17: like Leka Halasima, Dimetric all those like those kids that

1048
00:55:33,067 --> 00:55:35,427
Speaker 17: are coming through mix out with Barney and Fish up front.

1049
00:55:35,547 --> 00:55:38,387
Speaker 17: Kirk Capewell, you got Rodger out in the wing, who's

1050
00:55:38,387 --> 00:55:39,347
Speaker 17: still killing you know what I mean.

1051
00:55:39,387 --> 00:55:41,547
Speaker 8: It's just like you're like the team that we've got.

1052
00:55:41,987 --> 00:55:44,987
Speaker 17: I feel like we're just we're primed for success and

1053
00:55:45,187 --> 00:55:46,547
Speaker 17: like there's no way that I didn't want to be

1054
00:55:46,547 --> 00:55:48,627
Speaker 17: a part of that. So yeah, it wasn't well, it

1055
00:55:48,747 --> 00:55:51,267
Speaker 17: was pretty much a no brainer for me. Yeah, it

1056
00:55:51,347 --> 00:55:53,147
Speaker 17: was just I was glad to sort of get it sorted.

1057
00:55:54,827 --> 00:55:56,587
Speaker 17: Obviously would have been nice to do it a bit quicker,

1058
00:55:56,627 --> 00:55:59,147
Speaker 17: but that's that's just how it happens. And yeah, it's

1059
00:55:59,707 --> 00:56:02,947
Speaker 17: I can't wait. I see I think I saw Eddie

1060
00:56:03,187 --> 00:56:05,387
Speaker 17: resigned today, so that's good. So I feel like we're

1061
00:56:05,387 --> 00:56:07,347
Speaker 17: sort of putting together. They're a squad for the next

1062
00:56:07,387 --> 00:56:08,747
Speaker 17: few years, which is good indeed.

1063
00:56:08,827 --> 00:56:11,107
Speaker 2: And you were just tearing it up. Man, when you

1064
00:56:11,227 --> 00:56:13,107
Speaker 2: got injured. It was such a I mean, there's never

1065
00:56:13,147 --> 00:56:14,427
Speaker 2: a good time, I know. But as I say, you

1066
00:56:14,467 --> 00:56:17,587
Speaker 2: were leading them voting before that went behind closed doors.

1067
00:56:18,267 --> 00:56:21,067
Speaker 2: When what's that is was were you playing at your peak?

1068
00:56:21,107 --> 00:56:22,627
Speaker 2: I mean, was that as good as you've played as

1069
00:56:22,667 --> 00:56:24,547
Speaker 2: a as a pro And when you when you got

1070
00:56:24,587 --> 00:56:27,387
Speaker 2: cut down by the ocl Yeah.

1071
00:56:27,307 --> 00:56:30,347
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'll say, yeah, for my professional career. Yeah, one

1072
00:56:30,707 --> 00:56:32,627
Speaker 17: hundred percent. That's probably the best I've played so far.

1073
00:56:32,667 --> 00:56:35,587
Speaker 17: And that's what gets me excited about the future, you

1074
00:56:35,627 --> 00:56:38,667
Speaker 17: know what I mean. That was my first time playing

1075
00:56:38,947 --> 00:56:40,627
Speaker 17: half back in the NRL. You know, we had a

1076
00:56:40,667 --> 00:56:42,627
Speaker 17: bit of a new team, a lot of new faces,

1077
00:56:43,827 --> 00:56:45,907
Speaker 17: trying trying to play a little bit different. Obviously we'd

1078
00:56:45,947 --> 00:56:51,107
Speaker 17: add someone like Sean you know, leading the team around

1079
00:56:51,147 --> 00:56:52,827
Speaker 17: there for however many years, so obviously we had to

1080
00:56:52,907 --> 00:56:53,907
Speaker 17: change our style a little bit.

1081
00:56:53,987 --> 00:56:55,747
Speaker 8: And that's what that's what gets me excited.

1082
00:56:55,827 --> 00:56:58,107
Speaker 17: I go, if I feel like I played pretty good

1083
00:56:58,907 --> 00:57:00,867
Speaker 17: this year, and that's that's I sort of felt that's

1084
00:57:00,947 --> 00:57:02,867
Speaker 17: just the beginning and I'm going to get a lot better.

1085
00:57:02,947 --> 00:57:06,947
Speaker 17: And yeah, I'm someone who doesn't just rest on what

1086
00:57:07,027 --> 00:57:08,907
Speaker 17: I've done, Like, I've got a lot of stuff that

1087
00:57:08,987 --> 00:57:11,107
Speaker 17: I want to achieve in the game personally and as

1088
00:57:11,147 --> 00:57:11,467
Speaker 17: a team.

1089
00:57:11,587 --> 00:57:13,787
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's not hard for me to get up

1090
00:57:13,787 --> 00:57:15,467
Speaker 8: and get motivated to keep improving.

1091
00:57:15,627 --> 00:57:18,147
Speaker 2: Outstanding here, your Warriors fans will be looking forward to

1092
00:57:18,187 --> 00:57:20,507
Speaker 2: your return. Look, so what does what does Christmas look

1093
00:57:20,547 --> 00:57:21,747
Speaker 2: like for you guys? You've got a young one a

1094
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:24,027
Speaker 2: so I suppose it's all is it all sort of

1095
00:57:24,067 --> 00:57:25,227
Speaker 2: family stuff over Christmas.

1096
00:57:25,827 --> 00:57:28,787
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, so my partner Brody and

1097
00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:30,067
Speaker 8: my little daughter Miyer.

1098
00:57:30,147 --> 00:57:33,347
Speaker 17: She's nine months now, so she's like bear crawling around

1099
00:57:33,387 --> 00:57:36,307
Speaker 17: the place and furniture hopping and she's furniture walks.

1100
00:57:36,347 --> 00:57:37,467
Speaker 8: She's doing it all now she is.

1101
00:57:37,547 --> 00:57:40,547
Speaker 17: So yeah, it'll be I'll be on high alert during

1102
00:57:40,827 --> 00:57:43,907
Speaker 17: the Christmas breape. Yeah, just relaxing back in the Aussie sun,

1103
00:57:43,987 --> 00:57:46,707
Speaker 17: swimming in the pool. I was watching the Aussies just

1104
00:57:46,827 --> 00:57:49,827
Speaker 17: dominate the Ashes series as well. That's something I'll keep

1105
00:57:49,867 --> 00:57:51,467
Speaker 17: looking forward to. Well, go up three and Neil probably

1106
00:57:51,507 --> 00:57:54,027
Speaker 17: the next couple of days. So yeah, that's something that's

1107
00:57:54,067 --> 00:57:55,907
Speaker 17: a bit of attuition for me, is waking up on

1108
00:57:55,947 --> 00:57:58,907
Speaker 17: that Boxing day and not moving from the couch watching.

1109
00:57:58,627 --> 00:58:00,867
Speaker 2: That wonderful stuff. Look great to get the chest to chat.

1110
00:58:00,907 --> 00:58:02,667
Speaker 2: Thanks for the positive update, mate, Well look forward to

1111
00:58:02,707 --> 00:58:05,027
Speaker 2: seeing seeing you're back out there Rollson in twenty twenty

1112
00:58:05,067 --> 00:58:06,227
Speaker 2: six legend.

1113
00:58:06,347 --> 00:58:07,707
Speaker 8: Thanks Jason, I appreciate that, mate, No.

1114
00:58:07,707 --> 00:58:08,707
Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining us.

1115
00:58:08,747 --> 00:58:08,867
Speaker 4: Luke.

1116
00:58:08,907 --> 00:58:11,387
Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, Luke metcalf Gee sounds very chip, it doesn't

1117
00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:13,627
Speaker 2: he very high spirits. I suppose you would be with

1118
00:58:13,787 --> 00:58:16,907
Speaker 2: everything leading in the right direction. Sounds like you're shitting

1119
00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:20,587
Speaker 2: all his milestones as targets and on track for as

1120
00:58:20,627 --> 00:58:23,267
Speaker 2: he said, around six seven next year. That's what the

1121
00:58:23,347 --> 00:58:25,347
Speaker 2: kids are saying, are they six seven? I'm sure you're

1122
00:58:25,347 --> 00:58:27,987
Speaker 2: across this. So let's have a look at where rounds

1123
00:58:28,147 --> 00:58:31,267
Speaker 2: six and seven are next year. So the Warriors open

1124
00:58:31,627 --> 00:58:35,547
Speaker 2: against the Roosters on Friday, March the sixth, and then

1125
00:58:35,907 --> 00:58:38,947
Speaker 2: the Raiders the following weeks are two home games to start,

1126
00:58:39,027 --> 00:58:42,387
Speaker 2: then away at the Knights at home to the West Tigers.

1127
00:58:42,707 --> 00:58:45,707
Speaker 2: That's four rounds. Round five is away at the Sharks.

1128
00:58:45,787 --> 00:58:47,947
Speaker 2: Round six, well, this would be a good one to

1129
00:58:47,987 --> 00:58:52,627
Speaker 2: come back for the Storm away. That would be a

1130
00:58:52,667 --> 00:58:56,667
Speaker 2: good time to have Luke Metcalf back. Saturday April the eleventh,

1131
00:58:56,747 --> 00:58:59,187
Speaker 2: if it's round seven the following week it is a

1132
00:58:59,267 --> 00:59:01,867
Speaker 2: home game against the Gold Coast Titans. So we're sort

1133
00:59:01,867 --> 00:59:05,147
Speaker 2: of talking mid April, Round six away at the Storm,

1134
00:59:05,267 --> 00:59:07,627
Speaker 2: Round seven at home to the Titans. That could be

1135
00:59:07,667 --> 00:59:11,387
Speaker 2: when we get Luke Metcalf back. Just very exciting to

1136
00:59:11,507 --> 00:59:14,267
Speaker 2: have him. Look, if he'd had a full season last year,

1137
00:59:14,307 --> 00:59:16,747
Speaker 2: who knows what the Warriors might have gone on to

1138
00:59:16,907 --> 00:59:19,827
Speaker 2: A chief we'll have to put that on ice and

1139
00:59:20,307 --> 00:59:22,587
Speaker 2: wait till he returns in twenty twenty six. But a

1140
00:59:22,707 --> 00:59:25,907
Speaker 2: very positive update there from Luke Metcalf. He talked about

1141
00:59:25,907 --> 00:59:28,347
Speaker 2: the ashes. There'll be enjoying himself. Back to the TV now, Luke,

1142
00:59:28,387 --> 00:59:31,787
Speaker 2: you can watch Rossie Boys tear up England three twenty

1143
00:59:31,907 --> 00:59:34,627
Speaker 2: six for five Australia. This is in their second in

1144
00:59:34,707 --> 00:59:36,307
Speaker 2: ings Travis Head the last man out for one hundred

1145
00:59:36,307 --> 00:59:39,187
Speaker 2: and seventy are magnificent. One hundred and seventy from Travis

1146
00:59:39,267 --> 00:59:42,227
Speaker 2: Head his second century of the series. Australia ahead by

1147
00:59:42,307 --> 00:59:46,467
Speaker 2: four hundred and eleven runs now, Alex Carey un beaten

1148
00:59:46,507 --> 00:59:49,227
Speaker 2: on seventy one. Josh English is there on five. As

1149
00:59:49,267 --> 00:59:52,027
Speaker 2: I said before, even if they pulled out now the

1150
00:59:52,147 --> 00:59:54,627
Speaker 2: run chase for England, if it was successful, would be

1151
00:59:54,707 --> 00:59:58,347
Speaker 2: the biggest ever successful run chase at the Adelaide Oval.

1152
00:59:58,467 --> 01:00:00,467
Speaker 2: So I guess it's just a matter of how far

1153
01:00:00,547 --> 01:00:03,907
Speaker 2: ahead Australia want to get or whether England can in

1154
01:00:03,947 --> 01:00:06,027
Speaker 2: fact bowl them out. So quite a bit of time

1155
01:00:06,067 --> 01:00:09,147
Speaker 2: to go. We're only what are we midway through the

1156
01:00:09,267 --> 01:00:13,867
Speaker 2: first session on day fours. Are still five full sessions

1157
01:00:13,907 --> 01:00:16,627
Speaker 2: and a bit to go. The way England play the game,

1158
01:00:16,987 --> 01:00:19,587
Speaker 2: they'll back themselves to chase down anything, and the way

1159
01:00:19,627 --> 01:00:22,267
Speaker 2: they play Australia will back themselves to bowl them out

1160
01:00:22,307 --> 01:00:24,507
Speaker 2: take an unassailable three mil lead in the series. The

1161
01:00:24,547 --> 01:00:26,747
Speaker 2: Ashes will be done, all done by the time we

1162
01:00:26,867 --> 01:00:29,747
Speaker 2: even get to Melbourne on Boxing Day. Even if it

1163
01:00:29,827 --> 01:00:32,747
Speaker 2: was a draw in this test, England can't get the

1164
01:00:32,827 --> 01:00:35,307
Speaker 2: Ashes back because they don't have them, So a drawn

1165
01:00:35,427 --> 01:00:37,027
Speaker 2: series would be the best they could hope for. This

1166
01:00:37,107 --> 01:00:39,507
Speaker 2: one is drawn, and therefore the Ashes would be staying

1167
01:00:39,507 --> 01:00:43,587
Speaker 2: in Australia. So all pointing towards that particular outcome, we'll

1168
01:00:43,627 --> 01:00:46,907
Speaker 2: keep you updated. If you're going to be around Auckland

1169
01:00:47,147 --> 01:00:50,027
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day, what a way to start the

1170
01:00:50,107 --> 01:00:52,347
Speaker 2: new year A football match? An eight league football match

1171
01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:56,747
Speaker 2: on the first of January Auckland FC up against the

1172
01:00:56,827 --> 01:01:00,547
Speaker 2: Newcastle Jets at go Media Stadium. So if you're going

1173
01:01:00,587 --> 01:01:02,867
Speaker 2: to be in Auckland and you'd like to be there,

1174
01:01:02,907 --> 01:01:08,027
Speaker 2: I've got a six ticket family pass, six tickets and

1175
01:01:08,147 --> 01:01:09,947
Speaker 2: you don't even have to take your family. You might

1176
01:01:09,987 --> 01:01:12,347
Speaker 2: have had enough of the by theft Ganuary. You might

1177
01:01:12,387 --> 01:01:14,627
Speaker 2: be sick and tired of the side of them. Alternatively,

1178
01:01:14,787 --> 01:01:16,507
Speaker 2: you might want to spend more time with them. I'm

1179
01:01:16,507 --> 01:01:18,427
Speaker 2: not going to tell you how to you know, to

1180
01:01:18,507 --> 01:01:21,307
Speaker 2: divvy up the tickets. I've got six here for you.

1181
01:01:22,227 --> 01:01:27,227
Speaker 2: Simply text AFC and your name to nine two nine two.

1182
01:01:27,347 --> 01:01:29,467
Speaker 2: Simple as that we'll get them away tomorrow at some stage.

1183
01:01:30,027 --> 01:01:32,507
Speaker 2: But at some stage between now and I don't know

1184
01:01:32,627 --> 01:01:36,947
Speaker 2: this time tomorrow, text AFC and your name to nine

1185
01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:40,587
Speaker 2: two niney two and you are in the drawer. One

1186
01:01:40,747 --> 01:01:44,187
Speaker 2: twenty seven. The os Is should bat until the last session,

1187
01:01:44,667 --> 01:01:48,667
Speaker 2: says Hamish. Burn the English bowlers in the heat ahead

1188
01:01:48,667 --> 01:01:55,467
Speaker 2: of boxing day. Break them. Sentiment brutal Hamish, It's very good,

1189
01:01:56,227 --> 01:02:00,467
Speaker 2: very good, break them, break them. One twenty eight when

1190
01:02:00,467 --> 01:02:02,787
Speaker 2: we come back. Whitney Hanson, new coach of the Black Ferns,

1191
01:02:02,827 --> 01:02:03,347
Speaker 2: to join us.

1192
01:02:03,787 --> 01:02:10,267
Speaker 1: One crutch hold Ngage Weekend Sport with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnerholmes,

1193
01:02:10,507 --> 01:02:13,547
Speaker 1: New Zealand's I Was Trusted Home Milder News Talks, ABI.

1194
01:02:13,947 --> 01:02:17,307
Speaker 2: News Talks a B one thirty. Whitney Hanson has been

1195
01:02:17,347 --> 01:02:20,067
Speaker 2: announced as the new Black Ferns head coach on a

1196
01:02:20,107 --> 01:02:23,627
Speaker 2: two year deal. She succeeds Alan Bunting, who stood down

1197
01:02:24,027 --> 01:02:26,827
Speaker 2: after the third place finish at the Rugby World Cup

1198
01:02:26,907 --> 01:02:30,147
Speaker 2: earlier this year. Whitney Hanson was a Black Ferns assistant

1199
01:02:30,227 --> 01:02:33,947
Speaker 2: coach during the twenty twenty two World Cup triumph, and

1200
01:02:34,107 --> 01:02:37,707
Speaker 2: most recently she was head coach of Opeki's Matatu. She

1201
01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:41,227
Speaker 2: is the thirteenth head coach of the national site and

1202
01:02:41,387 --> 01:02:44,667
Speaker 2: she joins us now. Whitney, congratulations on being appointed to

1203
01:02:44,707 --> 01:02:47,187
Speaker 2: the role of Black Fern's head coach. You've had some time,

1204
01:02:47,227 --> 01:02:49,507
Speaker 2: I guess to let this sink in now since the

1205
01:02:49,547 --> 01:02:51,827
Speaker 2: announcement yesterday. Presumably you found it a couple of days

1206
01:02:51,867 --> 01:02:53,987
Speaker 2: before that. How are you feeling about guiding our Black

1207
01:02:54,067 --> 01:02:56,587
Speaker 2: Ferns into next year and beyond?

1208
01:02:58,067 --> 01:02:58,347
Speaker 5: Thank you?

1209
01:02:59,507 --> 01:03:01,347
Speaker 14: He said, I guess a little bit of time to

1210
01:03:01,427 --> 01:03:04,307
Speaker 14: sink in, but I'm probably still seeing a little bit

1211
01:03:04,347 --> 01:03:10,867
Speaker 14: of mixed between for the shock and excitement. But yeah,

1212
01:03:11,107 --> 01:03:13,787
Speaker 14: I think just when I think about the job ahead

1213
01:03:14,787 --> 01:03:16,667
Speaker 14: and the team that's going to be around, the team

1214
01:03:17,027 --> 01:03:19,027
Speaker 14: and the girls of that group just super exciting.

1215
01:03:19,587 --> 01:03:22,227
Speaker 2: When you presented your vision for the Black Ferns during

1216
01:03:22,307 --> 01:03:26,507
Speaker 2: the recruitment process, what were the main planks of that.

1217
01:03:28,507 --> 01:03:31,627
Speaker 14: Yeah, there was obviously a big piece around building on

1218
01:03:31,947 --> 01:03:34,467
Speaker 14: what is already a really special culture in that space.

1219
01:03:35,707 --> 01:03:39,107
Speaker 14: We have amazing talent, but we also have amazing people,

1220
01:03:39,747 --> 01:03:41,787
Speaker 14: So how do we continue to bring that together and

1221
01:03:42,347 --> 01:03:44,027
Speaker 14: for that to be a point of difference to that team?

1222
01:03:44,867 --> 01:03:47,907
Speaker 14: And then talked about the rugby and when we want

1223
01:03:47,947 --> 01:03:50,947
Speaker 14: to go and I've got a really clear idea of what.

1224
01:03:51,027 --> 01:03:51,547
Speaker 12: That looks like.

1225
01:03:52,227 --> 01:03:53,187
Speaker 2: What does that look like?

1226
01:03:55,147 --> 01:03:59,227
Speaker 14: The first thing probably is about being multi dimensional. They

1227
01:03:59,267 --> 01:04:01,307
Speaker 14: have to have different ways of playing and we can't

1228
01:04:01,347 --> 01:04:05,907
Speaker 14: be predictable when we play, So that's probably first and foremost.

1229
01:04:07,147 --> 01:04:09,547
Speaker 14: It's a contact sport. We need to be physically dominant,

1230
01:04:11,227 --> 01:04:13,267
Speaker 14: and you know, we want to be able to leverage

1231
01:04:13,307 --> 01:04:16,707
Speaker 14: off the amazing talent that we grow in New Zealand.

1232
01:04:17,947 --> 01:04:20,627
Speaker 2: So you think what you alluded to before, do you

1233
01:04:20,667 --> 01:04:23,667
Speaker 2: think you need to come up with different ways to play,

1234
01:04:23,827 --> 01:04:25,987
Speaker 2: not just you know, a game to game, but within

1235
01:04:26,147 --> 01:04:28,947
Speaker 2: games as well. If Plan A isn't working, for example,

1236
01:04:29,227 --> 01:04:30,747
Speaker 2: plan B and C might be useful.

1237
01:04:31,907 --> 01:04:34,547
Speaker 14: Yeah, one hundred percent. Teams are going to use different

1238
01:04:34,587 --> 01:04:36,387
Speaker 14: styles of attack and defense and we've got to be

1239
01:04:36,427 --> 01:04:37,107
Speaker 14: ready for anything.

1240
01:04:37,987 --> 01:04:39,987
Speaker 2: How do you assess the team the talent in the

1241
01:04:40,107 --> 01:04:43,467
Speaker 2: team that you are inheriting from Ellen Bunting.

1242
01:04:45,267 --> 01:04:48,747
Speaker 14: Before you know, like there's some amazing athletes who can

1243
01:04:48,787 --> 01:04:51,147
Speaker 14: do some really special things. But if I think about

1244
01:04:51,147 --> 01:04:54,267
Speaker 14: the talent, probably the biggest job is going to be

1245
01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:57,387
Speaker 14: how we build deep with that. So it's not just

1246
01:04:57,467 --> 01:04:59,907
Speaker 14: about having one great athlete or two in the position.

1247
01:05:00,067 --> 01:05:00,747
Speaker 14: How do we have five?

1248
01:05:01,747 --> 01:05:04,587
Speaker 2: How then do you evaluate evaluate the strength of the

1249
01:05:04,747 --> 01:05:08,747
Speaker 2: younger female players coming through our rugby system to allow

1250
01:05:08,827 --> 01:05:09,707
Speaker 2: you to build that depth.

1251
01:05:11,107 --> 01:05:13,867
Speaker 14: Yeah, the talent's definitely there. Like we have watched over

1252
01:05:13,907 --> 01:05:16,467
Speaker 14: the last couple of years a lot of age group

1253
01:05:16,507 --> 01:05:18,507
Speaker 14: stuff and a bet around the country and different bits

1254
01:05:18,547 --> 01:05:21,947
Speaker 14: and pieces within the pathway, and often those athletes who

1255
01:05:21,947 --> 01:05:23,867
Speaker 14: are sitting in the under sixteen space and trump the

1256
01:05:23,947 --> 01:05:25,667
Speaker 14: ones are in the eighteens, and it's the same for

1257
01:05:26,267 --> 01:05:28,947
Speaker 14: eighteens and twenty. So what we know is that talent's coming.

1258
01:05:29,427 --> 01:05:32,307
Speaker 14: It's getting better and better. The more opportunities they get,

1259
01:05:33,107 --> 01:05:35,707
Speaker 14: the better they will be. But how we develop that

1260
01:05:35,787 --> 01:05:37,027
Speaker 14: and support it's going to be important.

1261
01:05:37,307 --> 01:05:40,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, and professionalism in the women's game is still in

1262
01:05:40,147 --> 01:05:42,987
Speaker 2: its infancy, isn't it. How important is it to build

1263
01:05:43,067 --> 01:05:44,907
Speaker 2: that and how do you build that?

1264
01:05:46,187 --> 01:05:46,427
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1265
01:05:46,827 --> 01:05:50,107
Speaker 14: Yeah, you bang on, And I think how we build

1266
01:05:50,147 --> 01:05:54,267
Speaker 14: that is we can't be We can't just be an

1267
01:05:54,307 --> 01:05:56,587
Speaker 14: island out on our own. We've got to make sure

1268
01:05:56,587 --> 01:05:58,307
Speaker 14: that we take the opacky clubs with us and what

1269
01:05:58,427 --> 01:06:02,147
Speaker 14: we do. We need them to be really a part

1270
01:06:02,267 --> 01:06:05,347
Speaker 14: of the Black fans and who we are going forward.

1271
01:06:05,387 --> 01:06:07,747
Speaker 14: And then we need to work really closely I think

1272
01:06:07,787 --> 01:06:11,787
Speaker 14: with the hubs, the academies across the SPC in connect

1273
01:06:11,867 --> 01:06:14,147
Speaker 14: right across the path where I know my work with

1274
01:06:14,547 --> 01:06:17,347
Speaker 14: both Joe Pasan and Kinjucrot SiGe will be hugely important.

1275
01:06:17,907 --> 01:06:20,947
Speaker 2: And you'll have eleven tests in twenty twenty six. How

1276
01:06:21,027 --> 01:06:24,627
Speaker 2: significant is it to have that many and as such

1277
01:06:24,947 --> 01:06:27,387
Speaker 2: that much time together as a team and as a

1278
01:06:27,427 --> 01:06:28,067
Speaker 2: wider squad.

1279
01:06:29,907 --> 01:06:31,627
Speaker 14: There's been a massive cry out for that as an

1280
01:06:31,667 --> 01:06:33,827
Speaker 14: air of the last little bit, and I think again

1281
01:06:34,027 --> 01:06:37,507
Speaker 14: just in women's ropey in general, it's an amazing thing

1282
01:06:37,547 --> 01:06:40,467
Speaker 14: to be able to celebrate, but particularly for New Zealand

1283
01:06:41,227 --> 01:06:44,507
Speaker 14: in Southern Hemisphere to be able to have those opportunities.

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Speaker 14: So there's going to be a game changer and we're

1285
01:06:46,387 --> 01:06:47,107
Speaker 14: really excited for that.

1286
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Speaker 2: And then beyond that we look ahead to the historic

1287
01:06:50,387 --> 01:06:53,427
Speaker 2: first women's British and Irish Lions series here in twenty

1288
01:06:53,507 --> 01:06:56,347
Speaker 2: twenty seven. I know you're taking this year by year probably,

1289
01:06:56,427 --> 01:06:57,987
Speaker 2: but how enticing a prospect is that?

1290
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Speaker 14: Yeah, definitely one that's sort of sitting there on the horizon,

1291
01:07:03,907 --> 01:07:07,987
Speaker 14: but not not the today job. Again, what an amazing

1292
01:07:08,027 --> 01:07:10,227
Speaker 14: opportunity for women's rugby, and I know a lot for

1293
01:07:10,307 --> 01:07:13,547
Speaker 14: the players and management. That's just such an exciting opportunity

1294
01:07:13,547 --> 01:07:13,987
Speaker 14: to be part of.

1295
01:07:14,747 --> 01:07:19,027
Speaker 2: Have you developed what the general coaching philosophy regardless of

1296
01:07:19,707 --> 01:07:21,627
Speaker 2: the level or the team that you're coaching.

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01:07:24,267 --> 01:07:29,587
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I think probably the main answer to give

1298
01:07:29,627 --> 01:07:33,227
Speaker 14: you to that would be people first and players second.

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01:07:34,547 --> 01:07:37,387
Speaker 14: You know, again, we have some really awesome talent across

1300
01:07:37,427 --> 01:07:39,787
Speaker 14: New Zealand, but we also have great people and I

1301
01:07:39,827 --> 01:07:42,587
Speaker 14: think how we care for them holistically is going to

1302
01:07:42,587 --> 01:07:43,387
Speaker 14: be really important.

1303
01:07:44,187 --> 01:07:47,907
Speaker 2: So what's the first major landmark for twenty twenty six?

1304
01:07:47,987 --> 01:07:50,147
Speaker 2: When will you get your hands on your players for

1305
01:07:50,227 --> 01:07:50,747
Speaker 2: the first time.

1306
01:07:51,747 --> 01:07:53,387
Speaker 14: Yeah, we've got to camp at the end of jan

1307
01:07:53,547 --> 01:07:55,467
Speaker 14: so we've already sort of started talking about what that

1308
01:07:55,547 --> 01:07:57,307
Speaker 14: looks like, and there'll be a few things to do

1309
01:07:57,427 --> 01:08:00,907
Speaker 14: for Christmas. Normally go away camping with the family, but

1310
01:08:00,947 --> 01:08:02,267
Speaker 14: I had to sort of give them the heads up

1311
01:08:02,347 --> 01:08:04,027
Speaker 14: yesterday that that might be for as long as I

1312
01:08:04,107 --> 01:08:07,627
Speaker 14: normally go otherwise before we end up driving them nuts

1313
01:08:07,707 --> 01:08:12,307
Speaker 14: with all my questions in the notebook. So yes, planning,

1314
01:08:12,467 --> 01:08:14,747
Speaker 14: connecting and then we're bring the whole group and the

1315
01:08:14,827 --> 01:08:15,347
Speaker 14: need a chat.

1316
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Speaker 2: It must be tremendously exciting for you though you mentioned

1317
01:08:18,627 --> 01:08:20,267
Speaker 2: at the start you know, still sinking in a bit

1318
01:08:20,347 --> 01:08:22,787
Speaker 2: and a bit of shock there, but also excitement. Yeah,

1319
01:08:22,827 --> 01:08:25,907
Speaker 2: you must be. You must be really optimistic and excited

1320
01:08:25,907 --> 01:08:27,507
Speaker 2: about what the future could hold.

1321
01:08:28,987 --> 01:08:33,027
Speaker 14: Yeah, every son, you know, this team is a special

1322
01:08:33,147 --> 01:08:36,587
Speaker 14: it's incredibly special legacy and yeah, it is an absolute

1323
01:08:36,627 --> 01:08:38,387
Speaker 14: privilege to be out and be able to be in

1324
01:08:38,427 --> 01:08:38,867
Speaker 14: front of them.

1325
01:08:39,107 --> 01:08:41,907
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on your appointment to this role. I think

1326
01:08:41,947 --> 01:08:44,227
Speaker 2: that's been met with from what I can see anyway,

1327
01:08:44,347 --> 01:08:46,987
Speaker 2: universal approval. So we're looking forward to seeing how the

1328
01:08:47,067 --> 01:08:50,547
Speaker 2: team going goes next year. Enjoy your truncated camping holiday

1329
01:08:50,667 --> 01:08:54,107
Speaker 2: and we'll look forward to catching up again next year.

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01:08:55,347 --> 01:08:56,107
Speaker 12: Sounds a great mate.

1331
01:08:56,187 --> 01:08:59,227
Speaker 2: Thank you, no, thank you, Whitney Whitney Hanson, that freshly

1332
01:08:59,307 --> 01:09:02,387
Speaker 2: minted brand new Black Ferns head coach announced yesterday on

1333
01:09:02,427 --> 01:09:04,747
Speaker 2: a two year deal. Eleven tests next year for the

1334
01:09:04,787 --> 01:09:08,147
Speaker 2: Black fans. That's what we're talking about. Out more rugby,

1335
01:09:08,267 --> 01:09:11,387
Speaker 2: more time together, opick. He's got to expand too, doesn't it.

1336
01:09:11,467 --> 01:09:13,987
Speaker 2: But yeah, eleven tests. I can't remember the Black Ferns

1337
01:09:14,427 --> 01:09:17,907
Speaker 2: ever having eleven test matches. I stand to be corrected,

1338
01:09:17,947 --> 01:09:20,027
Speaker 2: but I can't remember that many in a single year.

1339
01:09:20,067 --> 01:09:22,907
Speaker 2: And then beyond that to the British and Irish Lions

1340
01:09:23,067 --> 01:09:26,107
Speaker 2: women's tour here in twenty twenty seven. So tremendously exciting

1341
01:09:26,187 --> 01:09:29,227
Speaker 2: time for the Black Ferns, but they do have to

1342
01:09:29,347 --> 01:09:31,347
Speaker 2: catch up. I think if the Rugby World Cup this

1343
01:09:31,507 --> 01:09:35,107
Speaker 2: year had taught us anything it's that it's that we

1344
01:09:35,267 --> 01:09:39,827
Speaker 2: are not at that very top echelon anymore. England have

1345
01:09:39,947 --> 01:09:43,667
Speaker 2: got a jump on the rest. Canada you'll remember beat

1346
01:09:43,787 --> 01:09:48,067
Speaker 2: us in the semi finals in the Rugby World Cup

1347
01:09:48,147 --> 01:09:51,387
Speaker 2: and we really had no answer and really interesting to

1348
01:09:51,427 --> 01:09:53,227
Speaker 2: hear Whitney say they're about how you need a different

1349
01:09:53,267 --> 01:09:55,867
Speaker 2: plan because if one plan wasn't working for the Black Ferns,

1350
01:09:55,867 --> 01:09:58,987
Speaker 2: it felt this year, then there wasn't a second option.

1351
01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:00,827
Speaker 2: There wasn't a plan be or a plan seef. We

1352
01:10:00,867 --> 01:10:03,627
Speaker 2: couldn't get it White to Porsche and to Braxton and

1353
01:10:03,747 --> 01:10:08,587
Speaker 2: to you know, Caitlin Carlo and the others. The wheels

1354
01:10:08,627 --> 01:10:11,587
Speaker 2: on the wings, and or if we did and they

1355
01:10:11,627 --> 01:10:13,507
Speaker 2: were quickly closed down, it didn't feel like there was

1356
01:10:13,547 --> 01:10:17,467
Speaker 2: another another strategy at play. So there's one for Whitney

1357
01:10:17,507 --> 01:10:20,307
Speaker 2: Hanson to work on and I'm sure she will. I'm

1358
01:10:20,347 --> 01:10:22,507
Speaker 2: sure she will. Great mindset. She could coach the All

1359
01:10:22,507 --> 01:10:25,347
Speaker 2: Blacks with that Mindset's here's this text. I agree, Yeah,

1360
01:10:25,627 --> 01:10:27,347
Speaker 2: I think she. Let's see how she goes with that

1361
01:10:27,427 --> 01:10:29,667
Speaker 2: little black foods first. But I do love her mindset.

1362
01:10:30,227 --> 01:10:33,307
Speaker 2: I do love her mindset. Twenty one away from Too

1363
01:10:33,387 --> 01:10:35,907
Speaker 2: Quick check on the Ashes, where another wicket's fallen at

1364
01:10:35,947 --> 01:10:38,427
Speaker 2: the Adelaide Oval, this time Alex Carry is out caught

1365
01:10:38,467 --> 01:10:40,267
Speaker 2: by Harry brook Off the bowling of Ben Stokes for

1366
01:10:40,347 --> 01:10:43,867
Speaker 2: seventy two. Australia three hundred and thirty five for six

1367
01:10:44,027 --> 01:10:46,387
Speaker 2: now in their second innings. That's a lead of four

1368
01:10:46,467 --> 01:10:49,867
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty runs, four wickets left at the wicket

1369
01:10:49,907 --> 01:10:52,867
Speaker 2: at the moment. Josh Inglis joined by Pat Cummins, just

1370
01:10:52,947 --> 01:10:55,347
Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark, Nathan lynone of Scott bowling to come. I'll

1371
01:10:55,347 --> 01:10:56,787
Speaker 2: probably just have a bit of a wavet it, won't

1372
01:10:56,787 --> 01:11:01,547
Speaker 2: they They've got enough runs, although who although there's a

1373
01:11:01,587 --> 01:11:04,667
Speaker 2: lot of time left in this Test match. I mean

1374
01:11:04,667 --> 01:11:06,627
Speaker 2: it would be one of the great chasers, isn't it

1375
01:11:06,627 --> 01:11:09,467
Speaker 2: if England was somehow able to combine a bit of

1376
01:11:09,547 --> 01:11:14,947
Speaker 2: pragmatism with the basketball philosophy. Who knows? Who knows? We

1377
01:11:15,067 --> 01:11:16,907
Speaker 2: wait and see. They're just about to come back after

1378
01:11:17,027 --> 01:11:20,547
Speaker 2: lunch on day three at Bayoval and mounta Motginger as well.

1379
01:11:20,587 --> 01:11:24,307
Speaker 2: We'll get you across that if and when action occurs.

1380
01:11:24,667 --> 01:11:26,427
Speaker 2: When we come back though, actually let's go to Madelake.

1381
01:11:26,627 --> 01:11:29,987
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock is our Australian correspondent. He'll check in from

1382
01:11:30,107 --> 01:11:32,427
Speaker 2: the City of Churches as they call it, when we

1383
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Speaker 2: come back.

1384
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Speaker 2: Tasman Our Australian correspondent, Saturday afternoons. Right across the year

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Speaker 2: has been Adam Peacock, who joins us now from Test

1398
01:12:15,467 --> 01:12:18,187
Speaker 2: City Adelaide. You've been following the ashes around so that's

1399
01:12:18,187 --> 01:12:21,947
Speaker 2: where we find you. Honestly made it looks very very hot.

1400
01:12:22,027 --> 01:12:23,027
Speaker 2: How hot has it been there?

1401
01:12:24,307 --> 01:12:26,907
Speaker 12: It's been pretty warm. Yeah, it's been t shirt weather

1402
01:12:27,027 --> 01:12:32,187
Speaker 12: the whole time. Today's all right, it's not ridiculous. It's

1403
01:12:32,267 --> 01:12:36,867
Speaker 12: beautiful day, but thankfully not forty degrees like it was

1404
01:12:36,907 --> 01:12:37,427
Speaker 12: on day two.

1405
01:12:38,587 --> 01:12:42,627
Speaker 2: South Australian Travis Head. He now has hundreds in his

1406
01:12:42,827 --> 01:12:46,467
Speaker 2: last four tests at the Adelaide Oval. How much does

1407
01:12:46,547 --> 01:12:48,627
Speaker 2: Travis Head enjoy playing on his own patch?

1408
01:12:49,067 --> 01:12:52,467
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, he's besotted with the place, I think. Yeah,

1409
01:12:52,507 --> 01:12:58,067
Speaker 12: he's averaging eighty eighty five, he's just under fifteen Test cricket.

1410
01:12:58,107 --> 01:13:01,427
Speaker 12: But yeah up, well over he on his home deck

1411
01:13:01,747 --> 01:13:01,947
Speaker 12: is just.

1412
01:13:01,987 --> 01:13:03,267
Speaker 7: Obviously so sport with it.

1413
01:13:04,467 --> 01:13:08,467
Speaker 12: Doesn't overthink things, Travis, He's He's not a guy that

1414
01:13:08,787 --> 01:13:10,707
Speaker 12: kind of gets caught up in a wasn't a great

1415
01:13:10,787 --> 01:13:15,867
Speaker 12: painting session or got out early or whatever. He's a

1416
01:13:16,147 --> 01:13:17,467
Speaker 12: seaball hip ball mentality.

1417
01:13:17,547 --> 01:13:18,107
Speaker 10: So yeah, he.

1418
01:13:19,987 --> 01:13:22,867
Speaker 12: Obviously just flourishes at home, doesn't put too much pressure

1419
01:13:22,907 --> 01:13:25,147
Speaker 12: on himself and goes about his business.

1420
01:13:25,507 --> 01:13:28,147
Speaker 2: He opened the batting in the second Test and sorry

1421
01:13:28,187 --> 01:13:29,947
Speaker 2: the first Test in Perth, the second innings of the

1422
01:13:29,987 --> 01:13:32,867
Speaker 2: first Test in Perth and got that unbelievable one hundred

1423
01:13:32,947 --> 01:13:36,227
Speaker 2: and has opened ever since, but more through I guess

1424
01:13:36,307 --> 01:13:40,707
Speaker 2: some circumstance rather than absolute preference. But might he might

1425
01:13:40,787 --> 01:13:44,627
Speaker 2: he be a long term opening batsman in Test cricket

1426
01:13:44,667 --> 01:13:45,267
Speaker 2: for Australia.

1427
01:13:45,987 --> 01:13:49,707
Speaker 12: Yeah, in certain conditions. I'm not sure it had suit

1428
01:13:49,787 --> 01:13:53,147
Speaker 12: him in England, where conditions are a bit different. But

1429
01:13:53,787 --> 01:13:56,947
Speaker 12: he's opened before for Australia on the subcontinent. They put

1430
01:13:57,027 --> 01:13:59,147
Speaker 12: him up the order when they toured Sri Lanka recently.

1431
01:13:59,267 --> 01:14:01,067
Speaker 12: He'll do it again in twelve months time and they

1432
01:14:01,107 --> 01:14:04,227
Speaker 12: go to India for five Tests. So yeah, he could

1433
01:14:04,267 --> 01:14:08,027
Speaker 12: bounce between one and five. And really it also depends

1434
01:14:08,067 --> 01:14:10,587
Speaker 12: on what else we've got available at five and the

1435
01:14:10,787 --> 01:14:12,307
Speaker 12: up of the order and at the moment it suits

1436
01:14:12,347 --> 01:14:14,987
Speaker 12: him best to go there, even though Steve Smith will

1437
01:14:15,027 --> 01:14:17,027
Speaker 12: probably come back in for the MCG test and he's

1438
01:14:17,067 --> 01:14:19,227
Speaker 12: been Kawaja will drop out again or maybe Josh English

1439
01:14:19,347 --> 01:14:22,547
Speaker 12: not sure, but yeah he'll start the top for the

1440
01:14:22,627 --> 01:14:23,507
Speaker 12: foreseeable future.

1441
01:14:23,747 --> 01:14:26,427
Speaker 2: Has Cam Green's lack of recent runs in any way

1442
01:14:26,467 --> 01:14:26,987
Speaker 2: a concern?

1443
01:14:28,107 --> 01:14:33,987
Speaker 12: Yeah, well yes, no, yeah that when he got out

1444
01:14:34,067 --> 01:14:38,547
Speaker 12: yesterday social media and my mate group chat was like,

1445
01:14:38,827 --> 01:14:41,027
Speaker 12: why is this guy stilling the team? He's not scoring runs?

1446
01:14:41,067 --> 01:14:43,787
Speaker 12: But first sight is he got Harry Brook out with

1447
01:14:43,827 --> 01:14:49,027
Speaker 12: an absolute corker of a delivery yesterday before, So yeah,

1448
01:14:49,947 --> 01:14:52,907
Speaker 12: I get it. But it seems like the Australian selectors

1449
01:14:52,907 --> 01:14:55,107
Speaker 12: are really patient with this guy because of his skill

1450
01:14:55,187 --> 01:14:57,707
Speaker 12: set and what he can do but the handball, so

1451
01:14:57,987 --> 01:14:59,867
Speaker 12: I think he gets a bit more time than ordinary.

1452
01:15:00,987 --> 01:15:03,627
Speaker 2: Been a few issues with Snicko in this Test match.

1453
01:15:03,667 --> 01:15:04,707
Speaker 2: What's been going on there?

1454
01:15:06,027 --> 01:15:11,547
Speaker 12: The the technology that they're using is there's one or

1455
01:15:11,587 --> 01:15:15,347
Speaker 12: two brands and this one, well there was the stuff

1456
01:15:15,387 --> 01:15:17,987
Speaker 12: up with the Alex. Everyone the operator era meant that

1457
01:15:18,067 --> 01:15:19,987
Speaker 12: they used the audio from the other end and not

1458
01:15:20,707 --> 01:15:25,027
Speaker 12: the end in which Alex Carey and that's what they

1459
01:15:25,147 --> 01:15:27,547
Speaker 12: go off. Obviously goes off the audio and then it

1460
01:15:27,627 --> 01:15:30,267
Speaker 12: marries it up with the pictures. But the pictures aren't

1461
01:15:30,907 --> 01:15:35,587
Speaker 12: definitively married up with the audio because pictures don't capture,

1462
01:15:37,147 --> 01:15:42,387
Speaker 12: you know, visual cues as frequently like the frequency of

1463
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Speaker 12: sound per second and the frequency of pictures per second

1464
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Speaker 12: on a camera. They're two totally different things. So that's

1465
01:15:48,947 --> 01:15:52,747
Speaker 12: what it looks a little out. But really, on when

1466
01:15:52,947 --> 01:15:56,187
Speaker 12: was it day two when it all kicked off with

1467
01:15:56,347 --> 01:15:58,067
Speaker 12: oh what about this? What about that? I mean that

1468
01:15:58,147 --> 01:15:59,987
Speaker 12: the Alex Carry one on day one was about one,

1469
01:16:00,307 --> 01:16:02,867
Speaker 12: But day two I think they pretty much got everything right.

1470
01:16:03,147 --> 01:16:06,187
Speaker 12: So it's just, yeah, frustration out in the middle of

1471
01:16:06,427 --> 01:16:09,627
Speaker 12: really knowing how the technology works, the technology not being

1472
01:16:09,667 --> 01:16:12,347
Speaker 12: of a standard in the eyes of some of the players,

1473
01:16:12,827 --> 01:16:15,027
Speaker 12: not quite there. What the ICSE they do is jump

1474
01:16:15,067 --> 01:16:20,107
Speaker 12: in and then provide the best quality technology standardized all

1475
01:16:20,187 --> 01:16:23,387
Speaker 12: around the world for World Test Championship qualifiers. They could do,

1476
01:16:23,547 --> 01:16:24,427
Speaker 12: but I don't think they will.

1477
01:16:24,907 --> 01:16:27,227
Speaker 2: You mentioned Alex Carry there. He's been around for a

1478
01:16:27,267 --> 01:16:30,267
Speaker 2: while now, approaching fifty test matches. I think how's he regarded.

1479
01:16:30,307 --> 01:16:31,947
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a tough hect to follow, isn't it.

1480
01:16:31,947 --> 01:16:35,827
Speaker 2: There have been some unbelievable Australian wicket keepers and tast cricket.

1481
01:16:35,907 --> 01:16:37,947
Speaker 2: How is Alex Carey currently regarded?

1482
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,427
Speaker 12: Yeah, he hadn't dip up the Besto incident. He had

1483
01:16:41,427 --> 01:16:43,907
Speaker 12: a bit of a dip but then came through it.

1484
01:16:44,507 --> 01:16:46,427
Speaker 12: And I think for the last twelve outen months has

1485
01:16:46,507 --> 01:16:48,867
Speaker 12: been as good as you can get as a keeper

1486
01:16:48,907 --> 01:16:51,107
Speaker 12: and as a guy who's coming in at six and

1487
01:16:51,227 --> 01:16:55,067
Speaker 12: seven when we're not really firing and saving the day.

1488
01:16:55,387 --> 01:16:57,987
Speaker 12: He did it to an extent again the other day

1489
01:16:58,027 --> 01:17:00,867
Speaker 12: with the century, but his keeping at the moment is

1490
01:17:01,027 --> 01:17:03,467
Speaker 12: just as good as we've seen in Australian colors. Like

1491
01:17:04,107 --> 01:17:05,707
Speaker 12: I talked Brad Hadden a fair bit and I talked

1492
01:17:05,747 --> 01:17:08,707
Speaker 12: out Gilchrist the fair bit and Alisa Heally and they

1493
01:17:08,787 --> 01:17:11,787
Speaker 12: all are just blind away by how this guy is

1494
01:17:11,827 --> 01:17:14,427
Speaker 12: doing things behind the stuff. So yeah, he's on the

1495
01:17:14,467 --> 01:17:19,027
Speaker 12: way to becoming He could end up being one of,

1496
01:17:19,227 --> 01:17:24,027
Speaker 12: if not our greatest keep That's that's fair recognition indeed.

1497
01:17:24,107 --> 01:17:26,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, some pretty good judges there. You mentioned as well

1498
01:17:26,707 --> 01:17:29,067
Speaker 2: just before you go, just while you're in South Australia,

1499
01:17:29,347 --> 01:17:33,067
Speaker 2: Lachland brook Auckland f c Attacker is a South Australia boy.

1500
01:17:33,387 --> 01:17:35,547
Speaker 2: I think played a bit for Adelaide and for Western Sydney.

1501
01:17:35,587 --> 01:17:39,667
Speaker 2: Now with Auckland FC. Another terrific performance last night. I'm

1502
01:17:39,747 --> 01:17:42,187
Speaker 2: prone to high Berberley a little bit, Adam, but I

1503
01:17:42,347 --> 01:17:45,827
Speaker 2: think he's he's kind of Johnny Warren conversation now, Lachland Brook,

1504
01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:47,587
Speaker 2: what have you made of him as an Auckland f

1505
01:17:47,667 --> 01:17:48,467
Speaker 2: C player this season?

1506
01:17:48,627 --> 01:17:54,507
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's throwing soccer. Whose conversation too? For World Cups? Yeah,

1507
01:17:54,827 --> 01:17:56,947
Speaker 12: I watched the end of that. I watched the second

1508
01:17:56,987 --> 01:18:00,947
Speaker 12: half of that after the cricket last night, and he

1509
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:04,027
Speaker 12: was the difference, Like he was the guy that was

1510
01:18:04,147 --> 01:18:06,827
Speaker 12: carrying the ball and you put it in a wander

1511
01:18:06,827 --> 01:18:08,347
Speaker 12: A shirt, which he was once upon a time, and

1512
01:18:08,427 --> 01:18:11,867
Speaker 12: maybe the results different because he was the guy that

1513
01:18:11,987 --> 01:18:14,067
Speaker 12: was creating a fair bit of have it. So, yeah,

1514
01:18:14,707 --> 01:18:17,307
Speaker 12: I haven't sent enough a leag football that'd say definitively.

1515
01:18:17,387 --> 01:18:17,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a.

1516
01:18:17,827 --> 01:18:21,027
Speaker 12: Johnny Warren favorite, but go off going off that a

1517
01:18:21,107 --> 01:18:23,387
Speaker 12: couple of other performances I've seen this season, it wouldn't

1518
01:18:23,387 --> 01:18:25,147
Speaker 12: look out of place around his net with Johnny Warren

1519
01:18:25,187 --> 01:18:28,467
Speaker 12: metal because yeah, he's performing great and it's really worked

1520
01:18:28,507 --> 01:18:30,147
Speaker 12: out the move after a birth of time in the

1521
01:18:30,267 --> 01:18:32,427
Speaker 12: MLS where he's really a great crack at it.

1522
01:18:32,627 --> 01:18:35,947
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Well more to come, i'm sure from Lachlan

1523
01:18:36,027 --> 01:18:39,267
Speaker 2: brook as always appreciate your time. Adam, enjoyed day four

1524
01:18:39,307 --> 01:18:41,187
Speaker 2: and Adelaide stay in the shade. Thank you for all

1525
01:18:41,267 --> 01:18:44,707
Speaker 2: your contributions across the year, and Merry Christmas to you

1526
01:18:44,827 --> 01:18:45,347
Speaker 2: and your family.

1527
01:18:45,747 --> 01:18:47,827
Speaker 12: Yeah it's Saty you Piney. Thanks for catching up again.

1528
01:18:47,907 --> 01:18:49,667
Speaker 12: I really enjoyed it. Look forward to doing it again

1529
01:18:49,667 --> 01:18:49,987
Speaker 12: next year.

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01:18:50,067 --> 01:18:52,307
Speaker 2: Yeah me to mate. Thanks indeed, Adam Peacock our Australian

1531
01:18:52,347 --> 01:18:56,227
Speaker 2: correspondent right across the year. And as we leave, Adam

1532
01:18:56,467 --> 01:18:59,627
Speaker 2: in Adelaide, Australia three hundred and forty for seven now,

1533
01:18:59,787 --> 01:19:01,947
Speaker 2: so we got ourselves a wicket, Adam and I while

1534
01:19:01,947 --> 01:19:03,827
Speaker 2: we were chatting there it was that of Josh Ingles

1535
01:19:04,467 --> 01:19:08,867
Speaker 2: Courtsmouth Bold Tongue for teen three hundred forty four seven Australia.

1536
01:19:08,987 --> 01:19:12,707
Speaker 2: That leader is now four hundred and twenty five. The

1537
01:19:12,827 --> 01:19:17,067
Speaker 2: highest of a successful run chase in test matches at

1538
01:19:17,107 --> 01:19:21,467
Speaker 2: Adelaide is three hundred and fifteen. Three hundred and fifteen

1539
01:19:21,667 --> 01:19:24,627
Speaker 2: is the highest ever successful one, so already you'd need

1540
01:19:24,667 --> 01:19:27,347
Speaker 2: one hundred more than that, plus even if they pulled out. Now.

1541
01:19:27,667 --> 01:19:30,267
Speaker 2: That was in nineteen o two, by the way, so

1542
01:19:30,907 --> 01:19:33,987
Speaker 2: going back away in more recent times, the West Indies

1543
01:19:34,067 --> 01:19:37,587
Speaker 2: chased down two hundred and thirty six in nineteen eighty two.

1544
01:19:37,747 --> 01:19:41,947
Speaker 2: But again that's you know, well we're getting up towards twice.

1545
01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:44,787
Speaker 2: That Adelaide tends to take a lot more spin, doesn't

1546
01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:49,467
Speaker 2: it on the fourth and fifth days. It does offer

1547
01:19:49,587 --> 01:19:52,467
Speaker 2: a lot of assistance to batters early, but spinners latest

1548
01:19:52,587 --> 01:19:54,427
Speaker 2: later in the match, So batting there in the fourth

1549
01:19:54,467 --> 01:19:58,187
Speaker 2: innings is always a bit problematic. There was a higher

1550
01:19:58,307 --> 01:20:02,507
Speaker 2: fourth innings score there. England scored three hundred and seventy there.

1551
01:20:03,267 --> 01:20:06,787
Speaker 2: This was again going back nineteen twenty one. Wasn't a

1552
01:20:06,907 --> 01:20:12,227
Speaker 2: successful chase, So up against it, England. I guess they're,

1553
01:20:12,347 --> 01:20:14,387
Speaker 2: you know, at least making inroads into Australia. They're sort

1554
01:20:14,427 --> 01:20:15,827
Speaker 2: of in control of their own destiny if they can

1555
01:20:15,827 --> 01:20:18,507
Speaker 2: bowl them out rather than just let Australia go on

1556
01:20:18,587 --> 01:20:20,547
Speaker 2: the merry way and set them something. But at the

1557
01:20:20,587 --> 01:20:24,347
Speaker 2: moment it's a very very big score a wicket meantime

1558
01:20:24,427 --> 01:20:27,107
Speaker 2: at Bayoval. We're back with more details on that shortly

1559
01:20:27,267 --> 01:20:28,947
Speaker 2: eight and a half to two news talks.

1560
01:20:28,947 --> 01:20:32,067
Speaker 1: Heab when it's down to the line. You made a

1561
01:20:32,187 --> 01:20:37,707
Speaker 1: call on eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hine News Talks.

1562
01:20:37,467 --> 01:20:41,107
Speaker 2: Hebb coming up five to two after two o'clock. It's

1563
01:20:41,147 --> 01:20:43,947
Speaker 2: now less than six months until New Zealand's first game

1564
01:20:43,947 --> 01:20:47,347
Speaker 2: at the FIFA World Cup in the United States, Mexico

1565
01:20:47,547 --> 01:20:50,547
Speaker 2: and Canada. For New Zealand, of course, they're based on

1566
01:20:50,707 --> 01:20:54,587
Speaker 2: the western seaboard of the United States and Canada. Iran

1567
01:20:54,667 --> 01:20:57,467
Speaker 2: and Los Angeles as their first game, then Egypt and

1568
01:20:57,747 --> 01:21:01,787
Speaker 2: Belgium in Vancouver. We're joined after two by All Whites

1569
01:21:01,827 --> 01:21:05,427
Speaker 2: midfielder Joe bow. How's the squad feeling ahead of a

1570
01:21:05,587 --> 01:21:07,587
Speaker 2: return to the Football Worll Cup for the first time

1571
01:21:07,667 --> 01:21:10,307
Speaker 2: since twenty ten, Joe Bells on the show. The World

1572
01:21:10,427 --> 01:21:14,827
Speaker 2: Darts Championship continues. This is honestly one of my favorite

1573
01:21:14,907 --> 01:21:19,267
Speaker 2: sporting events. I know not everybody regards this as sport,

1574
01:21:19,747 --> 01:21:22,907
Speaker 2: but for me it is absolutely it is. And Johnny

1575
01:21:22,987 --> 01:21:26,307
Speaker 2: Tata from Wainuiya Mata is through to the second round.

1576
01:21:26,427 --> 01:21:29,827
Speaker 2: Ben Francis is our darts expert. He's going to tell

1577
01:21:29,907 --> 01:21:32,907
Speaker 2: us more after two o'clock about Johnny Tata. Will also

1578
01:21:33,787 --> 01:21:36,347
Speaker 2: get you back to the cricket and to the Adelaide

1579
01:21:36,387 --> 01:21:38,107
Speaker 2: Oval as well. We're going to get you back to

1580
01:21:38,467 --> 01:21:41,507
Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval now though, let's get back to Bay Oval

1581
01:21:41,547 --> 01:21:42,907
Speaker 2: where this has just happened.

1582
01:21:47,747 --> 01:21:49,987
Speaker 7: If they're on Saturday not Sunday. I think that's one thing.

1583
01:21:53,147 --> 01:21:53,667
Speaker 7: Thank you Ray?

1584
01:21:54,027 --> 01:21:57,467
Speaker 2: Why and then gone? It's got the breakthrough and he

1585
01:21:57,707 --> 01:21:58,667
Speaker 2: roars with delight?

1586
01:21:59,827 --> 01:22:00,507
Speaker 10: Does it gives?

1587
01:22:00,827 --> 01:22:03,147
Speaker 7: He's got him like Coop behind for twenty seven?

1588
01:22:03,867 --> 01:22:06,227
Speaker 2: I get the breakthrough Western he's now turned six.

1589
01:22:06,347 --> 01:22:07,067
Speaker 7: It's the three.

1590
01:22:08,667 --> 01:22:08,987
Speaker 5: There you go.

1591
01:22:09,147 --> 01:22:13,747
Speaker 2: ACC's commentary of the cricket, available via iHeartRadio. The tulcent

1592
01:22:13,827 --> 01:22:16,987
Speaker 2: tones there of Mike Lane and Paul Ford two hundred

1593
01:22:17,027 --> 01:22:18,987
Speaker 2: and eight for three now the West Indies. Tevenham like

1594
01:22:19,027 --> 01:22:21,427
Speaker 2: the latest man to go, caught behind by Tom Blundloth,

1595
01:22:21,467 --> 01:22:23,827
Speaker 2: the bowling of Michael Ray his first wicket of the

1596
01:22:23,907 --> 01:22:29,187
Speaker 2: innings for twenty seven and two eight for three the

1597
01:22:29,227 --> 01:22:32,747
Speaker 2: West Indies. They still trail by three hundred and sixty

1598
01:22:32,827 --> 01:22:36,547
Speaker 2: seven runs, as I say after two Joe Bell and

1599
01:22:36,867 --> 01:22:39,147
Speaker 2: also the World Darts Champs.

1600
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Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1601
01:22:45,227 --> 01:22:50,067
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1602
01:22:50,227 --> 01:22:53,987
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home of Sport

1603
01:22:54,467 --> 01:22:55,267
Speaker 1: News Talks ed.

1604
01:22:55,267 --> 01:22:59,467
Speaker 2: B coming up seven past two. Welcome back into the show.

1605
01:22:59,507 --> 01:23:01,587
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. This is weekend sport on News Talk,

1606
01:23:01,667 --> 01:23:04,667
Speaker 2: said B till three. Tim Beveridge will take over after that.

1607
01:23:04,787 --> 01:23:06,507
Speaker 2: But before we get there, Joe Bell out of the

1608
01:23:06,547 --> 01:23:09,027
Speaker 2: All Whites. Less than six months now until the first

1609
01:23:09,067 --> 01:23:10,667
Speaker 2: game for the All Whites at the Football World Cup

1610
01:23:10,707 --> 01:23:13,667
Speaker 2: against Iran and Los Angeles house the team feeling and

1611
01:23:14,147 --> 01:23:16,907
Speaker 2: what still needs to be worked on between now and then.

1612
01:23:16,987 --> 01:23:19,907
Speaker 2: We're off to the World Darts Champs. Well not exactly

1613
01:23:19,987 --> 01:23:22,987
Speaker 2: off to them, but Ben Francis is our World Darts

1614
01:23:23,107 --> 01:23:26,027
Speaker 2: Champs expert we know, well he's our darts the expert

1615
01:23:26,067 --> 01:23:27,787
Speaker 2: full stop, not just at the World Champs. He's going

1616
01:23:27,827 --> 01:23:31,027
Speaker 2: to join us to chat through the first round of matches,

1617
01:23:31,027 --> 01:23:34,067
Speaker 2: which is all over now into the second round. Johnny Tata,

1618
01:23:34,307 --> 01:23:36,827
Speaker 2: the kiw through to the second round. I think only

1619
01:23:36,867 --> 01:23:38,787
Speaker 2: half a dozen times, says in New Zealander made it

1620
01:23:38,867 --> 01:23:42,467
Speaker 2: past the first round at the World Darts Champs. So

1621
01:23:42,627 --> 01:23:44,987
Speaker 2: we'll chat to Ben frances about that and what his

1622
01:23:45,107 --> 01:23:47,387
Speaker 2: prospects are for the second round and who might go deep,

1623
01:23:47,467 --> 01:23:50,747
Speaker 2: deep deep into this tournament. Luke Littler. Clearly Luke Humphrey's

1624
01:23:50,787 --> 01:23:53,467
Speaker 2: the other one, but who else might threaten As the

1625
01:23:53,507 --> 01:23:57,067
Speaker 2: World Darts Champs hits the new year. We'll also get

1626
01:23:57,147 --> 01:24:00,467
Speaker 2: you to the Adelaide Oval. Regular producer Andy McDonnell is

1627
01:24:00,507 --> 01:24:02,707
Speaker 2: in Adelaide. In fact, he's at the cricket right now.

1628
01:24:03,027 --> 01:24:05,307
Speaker 2: He's just sent me a photo. Goodness, maya looks hot

1629
01:24:05,347 --> 01:24:07,307
Speaker 2: over there. I hope he's got the sunscreen on, but

1630
01:24:07,427 --> 01:24:09,427
Speaker 2: he's going to join us for a bit of a

1631
01:24:09,547 --> 01:24:11,427
Speaker 2: chat before three o'clock. Will also get you back to

1632
01:24:11,507 --> 01:24:14,587
Speaker 2: Bay Oval as well with Andrew Ordison and play a

1633
01:24:14,707 --> 01:24:18,187
Speaker 2: sporting chance as well. So lots to get through between

1634
01:24:18,267 --> 01:24:20,827
Speaker 2: now and three lines remain open on eight hundred and

1635
01:24:20,827 --> 01:24:23,787
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty ninety two ninety two if you would

1636
01:24:23,787 --> 01:24:26,707
Speaker 2: prefer to correspond with us by text and a quick

1637
01:24:26,747 --> 01:24:29,627
Speaker 2: update actually from the Adelaide Oval, where Australia are now

1638
01:24:29,747 --> 01:24:32,747
Speaker 2: nine down three forty nine for nine, so the last

1639
01:24:32,787 --> 01:24:35,907
Speaker 2: pair at the wicket Mitchell Stark and Scott Bowland. The

1640
01:24:35,987 --> 01:24:39,147
Speaker 2: current lead for Australia is four hundred and thirty four

1641
01:24:39,227 --> 01:24:42,307
Speaker 2: runs just the one wicket defall so sharp end of

1642
01:24:42,307 --> 01:24:45,227
Speaker 2: four hundred and forty England will be chasing with over

1643
01:24:45,347 --> 01:24:49,267
Speaker 2: five sessions, so overs won't be a problem, particularly the

1644
01:24:49,387 --> 01:24:52,107
Speaker 2: way they bat, but will they be able to show

1645
01:24:52,187 --> 01:24:57,027
Speaker 2: enough pragmatism and enough wherewithal and enough intestinal fortitude as

1646
01:24:57,027 --> 01:24:58,827
Speaker 2: they used to call it to have a crack at

1647
01:24:58,867 --> 01:25:02,267
Speaker 2: it massive total to chase. We'll keep you updated from

1648
01:25:02,467 --> 01:25:04,667
Speaker 2: the Adelaide Oval as well, but as we always do

1649
01:25:05,307 --> 01:25:07,907
Speaker 2: at around this time weekend sport, it's time to catch

1650
01:25:07,947 --> 01:25:09,907
Speaker 2: you up on some of the stuff that you may

1651
01:25:09,947 --> 01:25:11,987
Speaker 2: have missed. In case you missed it, as the name

1652
01:25:11,987 --> 01:25:15,107
Speaker 2: of the feature, the Brisbane Heat have pulled off the

1653
01:25:15,227 --> 01:25:19,387
Speaker 2: big bash Legs greatest ever run chase in an eight

1654
01:25:19,427 --> 01:25:23,107
Speaker 2: wicket home win over the Perth Scorches. Perth made a

1655
01:25:23,187 --> 01:25:28,307
Speaker 2: franchise record two hundred and fifty seven for six key

1656
01:25:28,387 --> 01:25:32,187
Speaker 2: we opener Finn Allen making seventy nine or thirty eight balls,

1657
01:25:32,347 --> 01:25:35,787
Speaker 2: only for the Brisbane Heat to reel it in in

1658
01:25:36,587 --> 01:25:38,667
Speaker 2: the very final over two from two.

1659
01:25:44,147 --> 01:25:46,707
Speaker 7: He does believe.

1660
01:25:49,147 --> 01:25:52,547
Speaker 19: Come on a rat chase jack watering.

1661
01:25:52,307 --> 01:25:55,467
Speaker 20: At this night and he takes it home that he

1662
01:25:55,947 --> 01:26:00,347
Speaker 20: had been the Scorches in the most impossible run jacks.

1663
01:26:00,467 --> 01:26:04,187
Speaker 2: They're just incredible. The aggregate of five hundred and fifteen

1664
01:26:04,307 --> 01:26:06,707
Speaker 2: runs in that match, marking the first time the five

1665
01:26:06,907 --> 01:26:11,427
Speaker 2: hundred run barrier had been surpassed in competition history. Starting

1666
01:26:11,467 --> 01:26:15,227
Speaker 2: with cricket and unbeaten, Travis Head century fired Australia to

1667
01:26:15,307 --> 01:26:18,147
Speaker 2: two seventy one for four at stumps and a whopping

1668
01:26:18,667 --> 01:26:22,347
Speaker 2: second innings lead over England after three days of the

1669
01:26:22,427 --> 01:26:24,427
Speaker 2: third Ashes Test in Adelaide.

1670
01:26:24,707 --> 01:26:28,907
Speaker 21: Advances pumps it down the ground, doesn't in start Travis

1671
01:26:29,027 --> 01:26:32,947
Speaker 21: Head Inland had no answers to trampall.

1672
01:26:33,987 --> 01:26:34,747
Speaker 7: Co one hundred.

1673
01:26:35,427 --> 01:26:40,267
Speaker 21: Travis Head loves that line. That light loves Travis Head well.

1674
01:26:40,307 --> 01:26:43,227
Speaker 21: At straight out Light Test where a local boards scored

1675
01:26:43,307 --> 01:26:46,227
Speaker 21: a time, He's down on his knees in the crowd.

1676
01:26:46,187 --> 01:26:46,867
Speaker 8: Up on their feet.

1677
01:26:46,947 --> 01:26:50,347
Speaker 2: The unbelievable stuff from Travis Head. His consistency at the

1678
01:26:50,467 --> 01:26:55,387
Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval is otherworldly. To the Australian National Basketball League.

1679
01:26:55,427 --> 01:26:59,107
Speaker 2: The Breakers bitten by the type hands and Kens their

1680
01:26:59,187 --> 01:27:03,267
Speaker 2: twelfth loss in nineteen Australian National Basketball League matches this

1681
01:27:03,387 --> 01:27:04,347
Speaker 2: season thanks.

1682
01:27:04,107 --> 01:27:06,307
Speaker 19: To Travis at the home to home You'll get him,

1683
01:27:08,147 --> 01:27:13,787
Speaker 19: this does not fall and the Fads Top Fads inspired

1684
01:27:13,947 --> 01:27:15,147
Speaker 19: by Jack McVeigh.

1685
01:27:17,867 --> 01:27:21,827
Speaker 2: That is a fifth pickwin ninety nine to ninety five

1686
01:27:22,027 --> 01:27:24,227
Speaker 2: the final score there and a football in the A

1687
01:27:24,347 --> 01:27:27,867
Speaker 2: League Men's competition. MacArthur have come from one nil down

1688
01:27:27,987 --> 01:27:31,307
Speaker 2: to beat Brisbane two to one in Campbelltown, both goals

1689
01:27:31,347 --> 01:27:32,547
Speaker 2: coming from the penalty spot.

1690
01:27:32,627 --> 01:27:37,187
Speaker 9: Harry Sawyer has one penalty, Harry Sier has two penalties

1691
01:27:37,587 --> 01:27:41,307
Speaker 9: and mccarthur have turned around A Jennison to lead and

1692
01:27:41,467 --> 01:27:43,507
Speaker 9: Harry Sawyer is moonwalking his.

1693
01:27:43,627 --> 01:27:44,427
Speaker 7: Way to a title.

1694
01:27:44,547 --> 01:27:47,187
Speaker 2: And Auckland FC back on top of the table a

1695
01:27:47,307 --> 01:27:50,907
Speaker 2: two nil win over the Western Sydney Wanderers in Paramatta,

1696
01:27:50,947 --> 01:27:53,467
Speaker 2: both goals coming in the second half. I turn over

1697
01:27:53,587 --> 01:27:56,867
Speaker 2: from gharkavench the strata, Luckeybrook.

1698
01:27:56,907 --> 01:28:00,307
Speaker 19: Now it turns inside one attempt said he got this tone.

1699
01:28:00,747 --> 01:28:01,427
Speaker 8: Luckey Brook.

1700
01:28:02,067 --> 01:28:06,267
Speaker 2: He may have just driven that final nail into Tonight's.

1701
01:28:05,907 --> 01:28:11,107
Speaker 1: Coffin the Big Issues on and After Fields Call eight

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01:28:11,227 --> 01:28:14,947
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Fain and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunderhomes New Zealand's most trusted home Milder News talks at

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Speaker 1: bb Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Back to the top of the table for Auckland f C.

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Speaker 2: Now just on the subject of the Black Nights. On

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Speaker 2: the first of January, New Year's Day. It's a Thursday,

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Speaker 2: not that it matters at this time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what day it is. They all blend into one,

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Speaker 2: don't they. But the first of January, New Year's Day,

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC take on the Newcastle Jets at go Media Stadium.

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Speaker 2: A family pass up for grabs, and not just a

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Speaker 2: normally a family passes. What four tickets? We've got six,

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Speaker 2: a six ticket family pass. If you're going to be

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Speaker 2: in Auckland on New Year's Day and you'd like to

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Speaker 2: go to the football with five other people, simply text

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Speaker 2: AFC to nine two nine two. Just AFC and I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: your name as well would be helpful. AFC your name

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Speaker 2: to nine two nine two and you're in the drawer

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Speaker 2: for six tickets to watch Auckland FC take on the

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Speaker 2: Newcastle Jets at go Media Stadium. It's a five o'clock

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Speaker 2: kickoff on New Year's Day, Thursday January. The first fire

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Speaker 2: texts through and we'll make a draw in the early

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Speaker 2: part of next week. You'll know before Christmas whether you

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Speaker 2: are going along or not. Australia All Out at the

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Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval All Out for three hundred and forty nine

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Speaker 2: in their second inning, so was all mopped up rather

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Speaker 2: quickly once they got rid of Travis Head and Alex Carey.

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Speaker 2: But the lead is substantial for Australia four hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty four runs. England require four hundred and thirty five

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Speaker 2: to win the third and final Test match and keep

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Speaker 2: the Ashes alive. They will begin that run chase very shortly.

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Speaker 2: No further wickets, I don't think at Bayoval note two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty for three the West Indies two hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty for three. They trail by three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty five runs, with seven first innings wickets in hand.

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Speaker 2: It is just under six months until the all whites

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Speaker 2: first pull match at the twenty twenty six Football World

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Speaker 2: Cup in the United States, Canada and Mexico. New Zealand

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Speaker 2: will play Iran in Los Angeles, followed by games against

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Speaker 2: Egypt and Belgium, both in Vancouver. We are joined by

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Speaker 2: All Whites midfielder Joe Bell. Let's start with the group, Joe, Iran, Egypt, Belgium.

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Speaker 2: How do you assess that as a group for the

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Speaker 2: all whites to be a part of.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, well, exciting, really exciting. I think it's yeah, of

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Speaker 22: course a strong group. It's the World Cup. You've got

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Speaker 22: to expect strong opponents. But I think it worked out

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Speaker 22: pretty well for us, and in good locations as well.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, six months away exciting time. Still a lot

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Speaker 22: of work to do going into that, but no, can't wait.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel the All Whites are tracking as

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Speaker 2: a team six months out from the World Cup.

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Speaker 7: I think we're really tracking well.

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Speaker 22: It's been obviously a long term focus for us and

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Speaker 22: we've been planning for this moment for a long time

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Speaker 22: and I think we've been taking those little steps forward

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Speaker 22: that we need to be taken. Of course, we'd like

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Speaker 22: a couple more victories going into it, but no, in

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Speaker 22: terms of the general perspective, we're really happy with how

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Speaker 22: we're setting up for it. As I said before, there's

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Speaker 22: obviously a little bit more work to be done. We've

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Speaker 22: got a couple more games in March and then obviously

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Speaker 22: a little bit before the World Cup as well, but

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Speaker 22: no exciting and yeah, we're feeling well prepared.

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Speaker 2: So since qualifying in March, speaking of preparation, you've played

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Speaker 2: Cote Devoirs, Ukraine, Australia twice, Poland, Norway, Columbia and Ecuador

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Speaker 2: all very good football teams. How have games against that

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Speaker 2: quality of opposition sharpened the side?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean we know the opposition that we're going

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Speaker 22: to play against, the level that we're going to play

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Speaker 22: against going into a World Cup, so you know, having

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Speaker 22: opportunities to play against opponents of that level, it kind

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Speaker 22: of just sets us up perfectly. Like I said, we

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Speaker 22: would have enjoyed a few more victories, but I think

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Speaker 22: for those people that have been watching closely at those performances,

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Speaker 22: there has been clear trend of improvement through them. And

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Speaker 22: of course they're not they're not easy teams to play against,

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Speaker 22: but you know, I think the expectation and the mentality

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Speaker 22: within the team now is these are teams that we

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Speaker 22: can not only compete against, but when And I think

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Speaker 22: for us, the goal of doing well at a World

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Speaker 22: Cup requires us to win and get results against those

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Speaker 22: kind of oppositions. So yeah, to play against them is

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Speaker 22: the perfect practice. And like I said, I think where

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Speaker 22: we're working nicely to try set up some good results

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Speaker 22: in the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: We look back at those games and a number of

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Speaker 2: them ended in narrow defeat, and while that is noble

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Speaker 2: in a way, it doesn't get you any points when

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Speaker 2: the World Cup rolls around. So what is the key

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Speaker 2: Joe to getting results against quality sides like these at

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Speaker 2: the World Cup next year?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean it has been the focus and it

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Speaker 22: has been a discussion point especially lately. I think as

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Speaker 22: you as you find a lend closer to the World Cup,

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Speaker 22: you want to be looking specifically on making sure we

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Speaker 22: are getting three points or a point. And I think

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Speaker 22: at this level the difference is so small, and of

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Speaker 22: course we're hoping to get our absolute strongest team on

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Speaker 22: the pitch. We've been missing Woodsy a little bit lately

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Speaker 22: with him struggling with some yeah, some injuries, So I

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Speaker 22: think the small differences that players can make, and yeah,

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Speaker 22: being slightly more precise in both boxes defensively and offensively

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Speaker 22: is going to be the.

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Speaker 7: Key for us.

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed an extra edge every time the all

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Speaker 2: whites get together? Now with you know, a squad to

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Speaker 2: be named of twenty six for the World Cup and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot more than twenty twenty six good players

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Speaker 2: everybody wanting to be on the plane, does it feel

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Speaker 2: like there's an extra edge every time you get together?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 22: It's a huge opportunity for all footballers. I think it's

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Speaker 22: the biggest goal is to play and represent your country

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Speaker 22: at a World Cup. But we have developed a culture

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Speaker 22: within the team that I think is probably one of

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Speaker 22: ours strongest points. And of course there is a bit

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Speaker 22: of a cutthroat age with everyone wants to compete and

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Speaker 22: everyone wants to perform, but I think more importantly, we

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Speaker 22: are a really good group of friends, so I think

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Speaker 22: everyone understands the importance of it, but slightly puts that

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Speaker 22: second to the fact that we're representing our country and

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Speaker 22: we're doing it for each other.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it is.

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Speaker 22: It is intense, and there's a lot of competition for spots,

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Speaker 22: but yeah, we're a strong, tight knit group that really

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Speaker 22: tries to support each other.

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Speaker 2: And of course as we enter the new year, the

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Speaker 2: preparation ramps up again as you really bring into focus

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Speaker 2: the World Cup in June. And fantastic that we're going

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Speaker 2: to get the chance to watch the Your Whites here

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Speaker 2: on the home saw a couple of games in March.

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Speaker 2: We love having the Your Whites at home. But what

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Speaker 2: about the players, how much are you looking forward to

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Speaker 2: playing a couple of games at home in March?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, I think you know more recently we've been able

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Speaker 22: to get some more games in New Zealand, which has

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Speaker 22: been fantastic. It feels yeah for players, we feel a

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Speaker 22: little bit more connected to the home fan base and

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Speaker 22: build some more excitement leading in the World Cup.

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Speaker 7: So I think March will be exactly the same.

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Speaker 22: And everyone loves being home and playing at home in

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Speaker 22: front of family, friends and the fans, so yeah, it's

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Speaker 22: going to be great.

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Speaker 2: Club wise, Joe, you've just finished a history making season

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Speaker 2: with your club Viking. You are Norwegian champions, the first

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Speaker 2: time since nineteen ninety one that the club has won

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Speaker 2: the league. How big a moment was that for the

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Speaker 2: club and its fans.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was pretty nuts.

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Speaker 22: No, it was a really fantastic experience the Yeah, the

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Speaker 22: locals went pretty crazy on that one, but no, it

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Speaker 22: was really fantastically to be honest. We worked really hard

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Speaker 22: as the team to achieve it, and yeah, to celebrate

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Speaker 22: it was celebrating with the city and with all the fans.

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Speaker 7: That was really one of my favorite moments in my

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Speaker 7: football career so far.

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Speaker 2: I be it quickly became a two horse race between

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Speaker 2: yourselves and Bodo Glimp, who won the last two titles,

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Speaker 2: and four of the last five, so they've been the

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Speaker 2: dominant domestic Norwegian side for the last little while. What

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Speaker 2: was the key to holding your nerve and staying concerns

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Speaker 2: and at the back end of the season eleven wins

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Speaker 2: in your last thirteen games, you won your last seven straight.

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Speaker 2: What was the key to staying consistent and holding your nerve?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a little bit stressful, to be honest,

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Speaker 7: it was a little bit of nel biding going on.

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Speaker 22: But no, we've been the core group of the team

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Speaker 22: has been together for quite a while and we've been

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Speaker 22: through some ups and downs in the past few years.

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Speaker 22: We've been we've been close, but haven't been quite over

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Speaker 22: to push through and get it and get a gold medal.

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Speaker 22: So I think this year we had the experience, we

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Speaker 22: knew what we were getting into. And yeah, as you said,

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Speaker 22: we won the last seven of seven, which when you're

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Speaker 22: in a head to head title races, Yeah, frankly, just

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Speaker 22: impressive and a team against Bodo Glimpse, you can't afford

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Speaker 22: to slip up once and we didn't. And yeah, that's

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Speaker 22: very easy to say, but really really hard to do.

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Speaker 22: But now super impressed with the team, and to be honest,

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Speaker 22: proud to be a part of it. It was truly

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Speaker 22: special and a.

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Speaker 2: Big part of it too.

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Speaker 7: Joe.

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Speaker 2: You played in all but one game. The only game

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Speaker 2: you must was because you've got a one game band

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Speaker 2: for yellow cart accumulation. You played ninety minutes in pretty

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Speaker 2: much every match. You wore the captain's armband half a

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Speaker 2: dozen times. It was just such an impressive season. Are

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Speaker 2: you in the best form of your career?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Tough to say, tough to say.

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Speaker 22: I hope there's I hope there's more to come, but no,

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Speaker 22: it's been a it's been an enjoyable year. A hard

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Speaker 22: year too, but now it's been Yeah, I've been happy

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Speaker 22: looking back on this year because obviously I had a

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Speaker 22: little bit of tough time making a move to Denmark

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Speaker 22: and it didn't quite work out, and then coming back

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Speaker 22: and kind of yeah, reshaping how I was focusing on sport,

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Speaker 22: and now it's been it's been good to feel like

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Speaker 22: I've moved through that and then to have success this year.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, it was a long journey, but not happy

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Speaker 22: where I'm at, Happy where I'm going into leading into

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Speaker 22: the World Cup, but of course hoping there's a little

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Speaker 22: bit more in me to come.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure there was or there is. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: suggesting for a second that that you've peaked, not at

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Speaker 2: your age. There's lots more to come. And just on

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Speaker 2: the Norwegian season, it's quite different from some of the

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Speaker 2: other or most of the other European leagues, and that

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Speaker 2: you don't start again until March. Now, will that help

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Speaker 2: in any way with the timing of the World Cup,

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Speaker 2: the fact that you'll be what only two or three

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Speaker 2: months into your new season rather than at the end

1915
01:38:25,067 --> 01:38:27,747
Speaker 2: of it as many of the other European leagues will be.

1916
01:38:28,987 --> 01:38:30,867
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. To be honest, I think it's a

1917
01:38:30,867 --> 01:38:32,667
Speaker 7: little bit of an advantage for me.

1918
01:38:32,787 --> 01:38:35,547
Speaker 22: I think I'll be physically, probably in my best shape

1919
01:38:35,627 --> 01:38:37,467
Speaker 22: instead of yeah, the players that are coming to the

1920
01:38:37,547 --> 01:38:39,427
Speaker 22: end of the season and probably quite fatigued. But of

1921
01:38:39,467 --> 01:38:43,867
Speaker 22: course that's something that's completely something someone can manage. Yeah,

1922
01:38:43,947 --> 01:38:45,427
Speaker 22: but for me it's going to be perfect. I think

1923
01:38:45,427 --> 01:38:47,787
Speaker 22: I'm going to be raring to go and in really

1924
01:38:47,787 --> 01:38:51,027
Speaker 22: good physical shape. So yeah, ad lanes up quite nicely.

1925
01:38:51,307 --> 01:38:53,147
Speaker 2: And you'll be back in the US for the World Cup.

1926
01:38:53,267 --> 01:38:54,987
Speaker 2: You spend some time there, of course early in your

1927
01:38:55,027 --> 01:38:58,387
Speaker 2: football career, went to college in Virginia. Have you been

1928
01:38:58,467 --> 01:38:59,827
Speaker 2: back much. I know you've played over there with the

1929
01:38:59,827 --> 01:39:02,347
Speaker 2: All Whites a few times, but outside of football, have

1930
01:39:02,427 --> 01:39:04,507
Speaker 2: you been back to the United States very often?

1931
01:39:05,587 --> 01:39:07,587
Speaker 7: Yeah, not so much much. To be fair, it's hard

1932
01:39:07,627 --> 01:39:09,947
Speaker 7: to find the time. Always. I feel like, yeah, living

1933
01:39:09,987 --> 01:39:10,867
Speaker 7: on the other side of the world.

1934
01:39:10,907 --> 01:39:12,947
Speaker 22: Whenever I get a decent holiday, I feel a little

1935
01:39:12,947 --> 01:39:15,227
Speaker 22: bit compelled to see mom and dad and get home

1936
01:39:15,267 --> 01:39:16,387
Speaker 22: and catch up with some friends.

1937
01:39:16,507 --> 01:39:18,947
Speaker 7: So that's how it goes. But no, I excited.

1938
01:39:18,947 --> 01:39:21,307
Speaker 22: I'm really excited with the locations we have obviously La

1939
01:39:21,427 --> 01:39:24,667
Speaker 22: and then Vancouver twice, so yeah, really cool places to

1940
01:39:24,747 --> 01:39:27,387
Speaker 22: be based and like we touched on at the start,

1941
01:39:27,467 --> 01:39:28,347
Speaker 22: exciting games.

1942
01:39:28,547 --> 01:39:31,867
Speaker 7: So no, it's going to be a really really cool experience.

1943
01:39:32,027 --> 01:39:33,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. So you do get a bit

1944
01:39:33,467 --> 01:39:35,107
Speaker 2: of a summer break, you're back here for a bit.

1945
01:39:35,507 --> 01:39:36,787
Speaker 7: Yeah, for en zed summer.

1946
01:39:36,867 --> 01:39:38,747
Speaker 22: Yeah, so I'm back home here for a few weeks

1947
01:39:38,787 --> 01:39:41,707
Speaker 22: and letting the body recuperate a little bit. It's a

1948
01:39:41,707 --> 01:39:44,187
Speaker 22: big year of football to come, so yeah, getting ready

1949
01:39:44,187 --> 01:39:44,347
Speaker 22: for it.

1950
01:39:44,467 --> 01:39:46,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, Joe. Well, it's great to get the

1951
01:39:46,227 --> 01:39:48,107
Speaker 2: chance to jetty mate, and as you say, just such

1952
01:39:48,107 --> 01:39:50,787
Speaker 2: an exciting time for the players, but also for All

1953
01:39:50,827 --> 01:39:52,387
Speaker 2: Whites fans. So we're going to get the chance for

1954
01:39:52,427 --> 01:39:54,947
Speaker 2: the first time since twenty teen to watch out side

1955
01:39:55,067 --> 01:39:57,867
Speaker 2: in a football World Cup. Thanks so much for joining us, mate,

1956
01:39:57,907 --> 01:39:59,987
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and look forward to catching up in twenty

1957
01:40:00,027 --> 01:40:00,507
Speaker 2: twenty six.

1958
01:40:01,307 --> 01:40:02,907
Speaker 7: Yeah, lovely great speaking to your paining.

1959
01:40:02,987 --> 01:40:05,707
Speaker 2: No great speaking to you too, Joe Joe Belt. Pretty

1960
01:40:05,747 --> 01:40:10,067
Speaker 2: crucial part the All Whites and looking forward to in

1961
01:40:10,347 --> 01:40:12,467
Speaker 2: just under six months from now their first game at

1962
01:40:12,507 --> 01:40:15,267
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six Feet for World Cup against Iran

1963
01:40:15,507 --> 01:40:19,107
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. Just checking on the cricket. New Zealand's

1964
01:40:19,107 --> 01:40:22,187
Speaker 2: still battling for that fourth wicket the West Indias two

1965
01:40:22,307 --> 01:40:24,747
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight for three two twenty eight for three.

1966
01:40:25,667 --> 01:40:29,907
Speaker 2: Cavim Hodge fifty seven not out. Alec Athanazi is there

1967
01:40:30,027 --> 01:40:33,147
Speaker 2: on thirteen two twenty eight for three. I guess the

1968
01:40:33,227 --> 01:40:35,227
Speaker 2: magic number as far as New Zealand is concerned, this

1969
01:40:35,387 --> 01:40:38,387
Speaker 2: is try and get them out for three seventy five

1970
01:40:38,467 --> 01:40:40,227
Speaker 2: all less. That would mean that they could enforce the

1971
01:40:40,267 --> 01:40:42,987
Speaker 2: follow on if they chose to. If the Western needs

1972
01:40:43,067 --> 01:40:45,467
Speaker 2: were to get to three seven six, then that possibility

1973
01:40:45,947 --> 01:40:47,787
Speaker 2: is not there, and I guess the result becomes a

1974
01:40:47,827 --> 01:40:50,267
Speaker 2: heck of a lot harder Andrew Ordison before three o'clock.

1975
01:40:50,307 --> 01:40:51,747
Speaker 2: We'll check them with him and get you to the

1976
01:40:51,867 --> 01:40:55,147
Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval as well. But next it's to the World

1977
01:40:55,507 --> 01:40:59,187
Speaker 2: Darts Championships. The first round is complete. The first matches

1978
01:40:59,587 --> 01:41:02,107
Speaker 2: or other the last first round matches were complete. This

1979
01:41:02,187 --> 01:41:04,667
Speaker 2: morning we have our second round lineup and there's a

1980
01:41:04,747 --> 01:41:07,987
Speaker 2: key we in there as well, being Francis, our dartsy expert,

1981
01:41:08,067 --> 01:41:09,347
Speaker 2: going to break it down when we come back.

1982
01:41:10,107 --> 01:41:11,947
Speaker 7: It's more than just a game.

1983
01:41:12,307 --> 01:41:16,947
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and DJ Gunnomes, New Zealand's

1984
01:41:16,987 --> 01:41:19,067
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder, News Talks.

1985
01:41:18,827 --> 01:41:22,107
Speaker 2: In B, News TALKSB and Weekend Sport. Two twenty eight.

1986
01:41:22,147 --> 01:41:25,867
Speaker 2: The first round is complete at the World Darts Championships

1987
01:41:26,307 --> 01:41:29,747
Speaker 2: at Alexandra Palace in London. Sixty four players through to

1988
01:41:29,827 --> 01:41:34,907
Speaker 2: the second round which starts tomorrow, including a kiwi Johnny Tata.

1989
01:41:36,987 --> 01:41:39,427
Speaker 16: That looks like he's going to fall the first hurdle

1990
01:41:39,507 --> 01:41:41,747
Speaker 16: for the fourth consecutive World Championship.

1991
01:41:44,307 --> 01:41:47,867
Speaker 8: It is a fabulous win for the New Zealand the

1992
01:41:47,947 --> 01:41:50,027
Speaker 8: world jubvid to Tata and there's.

1993
01:41:49,907 --> 01:41:53,467
Speaker 9: No doubt abouts it thoroughly sloughly deserved.

1994
01:41:54,107 --> 01:41:55,867
Speaker 8: He jumps throw to round two.

1995
01:41:56,547 --> 01:42:01,427
Speaker 12: He has Teja though the former European champion Ritchie at house.

1996
01:42:01,587 --> 01:42:05,627
Speaker 2: It's sub style, terrific stuff from Johnny Tata. Let's bring

1997
01:42:05,667 --> 01:42:09,387
Speaker 2: in Weekend Sports darts expert Ben Francis Ben Johnny Tata

1998
01:42:09,507 --> 01:42:13,427
Speaker 2: into the second round. He'll play English thrower Ryan Meekel

1999
01:42:13,827 --> 01:42:16,347
Speaker 2: in the second round on Wednesday morning, our time. How

2000
01:42:16,387 --> 01:42:18,787
Speaker 2: big a dealer is it though, to even make it

2001
01:42:19,027 --> 01:42:21,387
Speaker 2: into the second round for Johnny Tuta. Thanks for joining us,

2002
01:42:21,427 --> 01:42:21,627
Speaker 2: by the.

2003
01:42:21,627 --> 01:42:24,507
Speaker 6: Way, Yeah thanks Paaney. Yeah.

2004
01:42:24,547 --> 01:42:26,907
Speaker 20: I mean, look, only six kiwis have actually ever won

2005
01:42:26,947 --> 01:42:29,747
Speaker 20: a game at the World Darts Champs the PDC ones before,

2006
01:42:29,867 --> 01:42:33,107
Speaker 20: so I guess that kind of says something. Making it

2007
01:42:33,187 --> 01:42:35,147
Speaker 20: beyond that though, is a different story, because we've never

2008
01:42:35,187 --> 01:42:36,907
Speaker 20: had a key we go beyond the second round in

2009
01:42:36,947 --> 01:42:40,867
Speaker 20: the PDC event, so it will Hopefully Tarta does look

2010
01:42:40,947 --> 01:42:43,267
Speaker 20: pretty good. I think he can get over Ryan Meekal,

2011
01:42:43,307 --> 01:42:44,667
Speaker 20: but it is going to be a tricky game. He's

2012
01:42:44,667 --> 01:42:47,307
Speaker 20: going to have to absolutely be at his best. But

2013
01:42:47,547 --> 01:42:48,987
Speaker 20: as Tata does do what, he's going to make a

2014
01:42:49,027 --> 01:42:50,787
Speaker 20: bit of history along the way. First kei we throw

2015
01:42:50,827 --> 01:42:52,987
Speaker 20: to the round is thirty two, and I think I'm

2016
01:42:53,187 --> 01:42:54,747
Speaker 20: really hoping all in New Zealand is going to be

2017
01:42:54,827 --> 01:42:56,867
Speaker 20: behind him because what he has done in the last

2018
01:42:56,907 --> 01:43:00,307
Speaker 20: eighteen months in darts locally and this financially has been fantastic.

2019
01:43:00,387 --> 01:43:02,027
Speaker 2: Well, can you tell us a bit about that For

2020
01:43:02,067 --> 01:43:05,067
Speaker 2: those who aren't familiar with Johnny's work, what have the

2021
01:43:05,147 --> 01:43:07,107
Speaker 2: last sort of year to year and a half from

2022
01:43:07,467 --> 01:43:08,547
Speaker 2: been like for him?

2023
01:43:10,307 --> 01:43:13,707
Speaker 20: He's just been winning really big games and even just

2024
01:43:13,787 --> 01:43:17,587
Speaker 20: his appearance in the AMS Premier League earlier this year

2025
01:43:17,667 --> 01:43:20,467
Speaker 20: that gave him a lot of stage confidence. He won

2026
01:43:20,507 --> 01:43:22,627
Speaker 20: a night in that he made the semi finals, didn't

2027
01:43:22,947 --> 01:43:25,427
Speaker 20: deliver on the finals night. But as we've seen with

2028
01:43:25,467 --> 01:43:27,107
Speaker 20: a couple of the Aussie players as well, they've really

2029
01:43:27,187 --> 01:43:30,867
Speaker 20: touched on how that experiences has helped them with being

2030
01:43:30,907 --> 01:43:33,027
Speaker 20: at Ali Paley and I think that's played a massive

2031
01:43:33,067 --> 01:43:35,267
Speaker 20: part in it. Of course, we know he hit the

2032
01:43:35,347 --> 01:43:38,187
Speaker 20: nine data and the dark players and the Zealand events

2033
01:43:38,547 --> 01:43:39,427
Speaker 20: earlier this year as well.

2034
01:43:39,507 --> 01:43:40,947
Speaker 6: Only the second key would ever do that.

2035
01:43:41,107 --> 01:43:44,547
Speaker 20: So as the saying goes, Johnny Tasa from way Nouiamata

2036
01:43:44,707 --> 01:43:45,467
Speaker 20: had a nine data.

2037
01:43:46,747 --> 01:43:49,987
Speaker 2: We the rhymes and the puns are all there, so

2038
01:43:50,787 --> 01:43:54,147
Speaker 2: how big is this being. I mean, we see the

2039
01:43:54,387 --> 01:43:57,307
Speaker 2: World Darts Championship. It looks amazing on television. For a

2040
01:43:57,427 --> 01:44:01,187
Speaker 2: dance player who's used to I guess smaller stages, smaller audiences.

2041
01:44:01,507 --> 01:44:03,707
Speaker 2: How big would it be? How nerve racking to get

2042
01:44:03,787 --> 01:44:05,867
Speaker 2: up there and to start throwing.

2043
01:44:07,467 --> 01:44:09,707
Speaker 20: I would hate to think what that would be like, Piney.

2044
01:44:09,867 --> 01:44:12,387
Speaker 20: I think about myself. If I'm down at local bowling club,

2045
01:44:12,427 --> 01:44:13,867
Speaker 20: I've got twenty people in front of me. I'm a

2046
01:44:13,907 --> 01:44:17,947
Speaker 20: nervous wreak. So to have three thousand people screaming at you, well,

2047
01:44:18,227 --> 01:44:19,947
Speaker 20: I could not imagine what that would be like.

2048
01:44:20,107 --> 01:44:23,827
Speaker 6: And you know it's it is daunting.

2049
01:44:23,867 --> 01:44:25,507
Speaker 20: But look some of the players that have the crowd

2050
01:44:25,587 --> 01:44:28,547
Speaker 20: on their side and they thrive under that kind of excitement.

2051
01:44:28,587 --> 01:44:30,987
Speaker 6: Other players know how to zone out. But look, it

2052
01:44:31,107 --> 01:44:31,747
Speaker 6: is very daunting.

2053
01:44:31,827 --> 01:44:33,747
Speaker 20: And the thing is next year they're actually moving into

2054
01:44:33,787 --> 01:44:36,147
Speaker 20: a different hall at Alexandra Palace, so they're going to

2055
01:44:36,187 --> 01:44:38,667
Speaker 20: be in a crowd of our a capacity crowd of

2056
01:44:38,707 --> 01:44:41,147
Speaker 20: about five thousand if he's about the three three and

2057
01:44:41,187 --> 01:44:42,587
Speaker 20: a half thousand it is at the moment, so it's

2058
01:44:42,587 --> 01:44:43,827
Speaker 20: only going to get bigger and better.

2059
01:44:44,227 --> 01:44:46,987
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. So he's into the second round. As to say

2060
01:44:47,667 --> 01:44:50,747
Speaker 2: Ryan Meekl, I mean, he's got to be a chance

2061
01:44:50,787 --> 01:44:52,107
Speaker 2: for I had to look at some oledge and they're

2062
01:44:52,147 --> 01:44:55,987
Speaker 2: own the indicative. But it's not like he's an overwhelming underdog.

2063
01:44:56,067 --> 01:44:57,787
Speaker 2: He could win, couldn't he.

2064
01:44:59,187 --> 01:45:01,947
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. There's no reason why Johnny can't get

2065
01:45:01,987 --> 01:45:02,467
Speaker 6: over the line.

2066
01:45:02,547 --> 01:45:05,627
Speaker 20: He's He's shown that he can perform it, even at

2067
01:45:05,667 --> 01:45:08,667
Speaker 20: this World champ and other events, even the BDO World Champs,

2068
01:45:08,707 --> 01:45:11,467
Speaker 20: which I kind of classifies the amateur World Champs a

2069
01:45:11,507 --> 01:45:12,947
Speaker 20: few years ago, he reached the quarter finals.

2070
01:45:12,987 --> 01:45:14,547
Speaker 6: So I think Johnny's definitely got the skill.

2071
01:45:14,907 --> 01:45:18,027
Speaker 20: A player like Ryan, he is a left hander, he's

2072
01:45:18,147 --> 01:45:21,467
Speaker 20: a bit of an unorthodox player, and some of these guys,

2073
01:45:21,747 --> 01:45:23,987
Speaker 20: it's exactly like a guy like Johnny. Their chances are

2074
01:45:24,067 --> 01:45:25,667
Speaker 20: very limited on the stage and they want to make

2075
01:45:25,707 --> 01:45:27,147
Speaker 20: the most of it improve their ranking.

2076
01:45:27,587 --> 01:45:29,347
Speaker 6: So there is a lot riding for both players.

2077
01:45:29,387 --> 01:45:31,387
Speaker 20: But there's no reason why Johnny, if he's at his best,

2078
01:45:31,387 --> 01:45:33,027
Speaker 20: he can get get out of the line. He's as

2079
01:45:33,067 --> 01:45:35,227
Speaker 20: the City's demonstrated those skills time and time again that

2080
01:45:35,267 --> 01:45:35,747
Speaker 20: he's good enough.

2081
01:45:35,987 --> 01:45:38,147
Speaker 2: Okay, Hope I Pooh was the other key we involved.

2082
01:45:38,187 --> 01:45:39,587
Speaker 2: He couldn't get past the first round.

2083
01:45:41,027 --> 01:45:43,907
Speaker 20: Yeah, a bit a bit of a shame for Hope

2084
01:45:43,987 --> 01:45:46,587
Speaker 20: I and of course, of course him losing means he

2085
01:45:46,907 --> 01:45:49,907
Speaker 20: does not gain his tour card or sorry, he loses

2086
01:45:49,947 --> 01:45:52,027
Speaker 20: his tour card. He has come out and said that

2087
01:45:52,067 --> 01:45:54,187
Speaker 20: he's going to come home to New Zealand and play

2088
01:45:54,227 --> 01:45:55,107
Speaker 20: on the local circuit.

2089
01:45:55,187 --> 01:45:57,547
Speaker 6: But regardless, he made it.

2090
01:45:57,667 --> 01:45:59,347
Speaker 20: He had to do it the hard way to make

2091
01:45:59,427 --> 01:46:02,547
Speaker 20: it by like a last qualifier, but he made history

2092
01:46:02,547 --> 01:46:04,187
Speaker 20: of the first key we to be on the on

2093
01:46:04,307 --> 01:46:08,507
Speaker 20: the pro tour. So it's no it's no easy feat

2094
01:46:08,587 --> 01:46:10,307
Speaker 20: what he's done and been away from his family for

2095
01:46:10,387 --> 01:46:12,787
Speaker 20: two years as well has been a challenge too, but

2096
01:46:13,107 --> 01:46:15,587
Speaker 20: I think he can hold his head high. Probably didn't

2097
01:46:16,027 --> 01:46:18,467
Speaker 20: he probably didn't show what he really is capable of.

2098
01:46:18,587 --> 01:46:21,067
Speaker 20: He had his moments, but it is what it is,

2099
01:46:21,147 --> 01:46:22,707
Speaker 20: and we're going to look forward to having a back

2100
01:46:22,747 --> 01:46:24,347
Speaker 20: out on the New Zealand scene where he's going to

2101
01:46:24,387 --> 01:46:26,187
Speaker 20: be a big force. And it just shows that the

2102
01:46:26,267 --> 01:46:28,027
Speaker 20: depth at the top of New Zealand dancers is going

2103
01:46:28,067 --> 01:46:29,067
Speaker 20: to get bigger and better.

2104
01:46:29,347 --> 01:46:31,507
Speaker 2: Let's zoom out then from the Kiwis to the others

2105
01:46:31,547 --> 01:46:34,267
Speaker 2: and I guess the big shot was the Kenyon qualifier,

2106
01:46:34,387 --> 01:46:40,227
Speaker 2: David Manure stunning world number eighteen Mike Dedeca three sets

2107
01:46:40,267 --> 01:46:41,147
Speaker 2: to two in the opening round.

2108
01:46:41,187 --> 01:46:43,827
Speaker 20: How big an upset was that, I would go as

2109
01:46:43,867 --> 01:46:45,707
Speaker 20: far to say probably one of the biggest we've seen

2110
01:46:45,787 --> 01:46:47,547
Speaker 20: at the World Champs in terms of.

2111
01:46:49,587 --> 01:46:52,107
Speaker 6: He qualified it last minute. No one really knew of him.

2112
01:46:52,187 --> 01:46:54,867
Speaker 20: He went to this Kenyan sporting body and said, I've

2113
01:46:54,907 --> 01:46:56,827
Speaker 20: qualified for Lord Champs? Can I have some funding?

2114
01:46:57,067 --> 01:46:59,667
Speaker 6: They said no. He almost didn't make it because he couldn't.

2115
01:46:59,827 --> 01:47:01,667
Speaker 20: He couldn't he didn't have the money to get over there,

2116
01:47:01,707 --> 01:47:05,227
Speaker 20: so it took some fundraising from the African darts community

2117
01:47:05,267 --> 01:47:08,787
Speaker 20: to get him over there. And his it was very

2118
01:47:08,867 --> 01:47:11,747
Speaker 20: interesting because it was almost his presence on the stage

2119
01:47:11,787 --> 01:47:14,627
Speaker 20: really one won the crowd over. He had some absolutely

2120
01:47:14,907 --> 01:47:18,667
Speaker 20: amazing miscounts, which is funny, but it's also part of

2121
01:47:18,667 --> 01:47:19,347
Speaker 20: the pressure as well.

2122
01:47:19,387 --> 01:47:20,307
Speaker 6: He had a he had a one.

2123
01:47:20,267 --> 01:47:22,667
Speaker 20: Two five and started celebrating but realized he actually needed

2124
01:47:22,707 --> 01:47:26,747
Speaker 20: one three five. But he's still he still came away

2125
01:47:26,787 --> 01:47:29,307
Speaker 20: with it. But I think part of what happened kind

2126
01:47:29,347 --> 01:47:30,987
Speaker 20: of shows that one, when you've kind of got the

2127
01:47:31,387 --> 01:47:33,947
Speaker 20: crowd behind you, he really started to pick up his

2128
01:47:34,027 --> 01:47:36,467
Speaker 20: game and thrive, and Mike de Decka almost let that

2129
01:47:36,587 --> 01:47:38,667
Speaker 20: get to him. There was lots of shaking his head

2130
01:47:38,747 --> 01:47:41,467
Speaker 20: during that game, going like just frustrated that the fans

2131
01:47:41,507 --> 01:47:44,067
Speaker 20: aren't with him, but I would go, yeah, I think

2132
01:47:44,067 --> 01:47:45,787
Speaker 20: it's probably one of the biggest upsets. It was a

2133
01:47:45,987 --> 01:47:48,027
Speaker 20: cool performance. It's a cool story. You know, he's getting

2134
01:47:48,027 --> 01:47:50,547
Speaker 20: tweets from the President of Kenya now going you know

2135
01:47:50,667 --> 01:47:53,147
Speaker 20: what a moment for Kenyan darts and and it was

2136
01:47:53,307 --> 01:47:56,507
Speaker 20: and just everything about it was special. A guy that

2137
01:47:56,787 --> 01:47:59,467
Speaker 20: picked up darts a few years ago playing on the

2138
01:47:59,507 --> 01:48:01,507
Speaker 20: big stage. And I think it's one of those kind

2139
01:48:01,507 --> 01:48:03,787
Speaker 20: of feel good stories. And I think it's also part

2140
01:48:03,827 --> 01:48:07,787
Speaker 20: of why the World Champs at the early stage, albeit long,

2141
01:48:08,187 --> 01:48:10,547
Speaker 20: is actually really exciting. These are the real cool stories

2142
01:48:10,587 --> 01:48:13,067
Speaker 20: that people like. They like these real underdog stories, these

2143
01:48:13,107 --> 01:48:15,307
Speaker 20: guys at a first time on the stage. Was this

2144
01:48:15,427 --> 01:48:17,427
Speaker 20: first time out of Africa, you know, so that shows

2145
01:48:17,467 --> 01:48:20,027
Speaker 20: you how amazing it is. And you know he's up

2146
01:48:20,067 --> 01:48:21,907
Speaker 20: on the stage loving it and it's going to change

2147
01:48:21,947 --> 01:48:25,587
Speaker 20: his life. Just winning that money and the opportunities that

2148
01:48:26,027 --> 01:48:26,987
Speaker 20: are going to come as a result.

2149
01:48:27,027 --> 01:48:28,667
Speaker 2: Well, I hope he's going to get some rich respective

2150
01:48:28,707 --> 01:48:31,947
Speaker 2: funding from the Kenyan government. We'll wait and see about that.

2151
01:48:32,147 --> 01:48:35,947
Speaker 2: To the very top, Luke Littler defending champion, how firm

2152
01:48:36,187 --> 01:48:38,267
Speaker 2: a favorite is he to go back to back?

2153
01:48:39,187 --> 01:48:42,187
Speaker 20: Well, I think he's got a relatively winnable draw all

2154
01:48:42,227 --> 01:48:44,867
Speaker 20: the way to the quarterfinals where he could meet girlin Price,

2155
01:48:44,907 --> 01:48:46,387
Speaker 20: and that is going to be a tricky one because

2156
01:48:46,427 --> 01:48:50,227
Speaker 20: one player that does really thrive playing against Luke Littler

2157
01:48:50,387 --> 01:48:54,387
Speaker 20: and in those moments is a guy like Girlwin Price. Look,

2158
01:48:54,587 --> 01:48:56,587
Speaker 20: I think you have to say that the defending champ

2159
01:48:56,747 --> 01:48:58,387
Speaker 20: is going to be the favorite to defend the title,

2160
01:48:58,427 --> 01:49:00,107
Speaker 20: But it has been quite a while since we've had

2161
01:49:00,147 --> 01:49:02,307
Speaker 20: a player go back to back, so I don't know

2162
01:49:02,347 --> 01:49:04,467
Speaker 20: whether any of the historians out there are going to

2163
01:49:04,507 --> 01:49:06,987
Speaker 20: really look too much into that. But look, it's one

2164
01:49:07,027 --> 01:49:08,907
Speaker 20: of these things where the further of the tournament these

2165
01:49:08,947 --> 01:49:11,827
Speaker 20: tournament seem to go, the better Loopletler seems to go.

2166
01:49:12,107 --> 01:49:14,587
Speaker 20: He really thrives under that pressure in that longer format,

2167
01:49:14,747 --> 01:49:17,267
Speaker 20: So I think he's definitely going to be the man

2168
01:49:17,307 --> 01:49:18,707
Speaker 20: to beat. But I think if someone is going to

2169
01:49:18,747 --> 01:49:21,427
Speaker 20: stop him reaching the final, as it has to be

2170
01:49:21,507 --> 01:49:22,907
Speaker 20: good on Price, I don't think anyone else.

2171
01:49:22,827 --> 01:49:23,387
Speaker 6: Will stop him.

2172
01:49:23,387 --> 01:49:25,027
Speaker 20: Because if girl on Price doesn't beat him, I think

2173
01:49:25,067 --> 01:49:27,307
Speaker 20: he makes it to the final and who knows who

2174
01:49:27,307 --> 01:49:28,867
Speaker 20: he could face them. I think a lot of people

2175
01:49:28,867 --> 01:49:30,467
Speaker 20: are hoping it's the battle of the two looks again,

2176
01:49:30,507 --> 01:49:31,187
Speaker 20: but we see.

2177
01:49:31,067 --> 01:49:32,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I was just going to ask that Luke

2178
01:49:32,787 --> 01:49:38,427
Speaker 2: Humphreys presumably is his biggest challenger. Are these two, you know,

2179
01:49:38,627 --> 01:49:42,467
Speaker 2: potentially on a collision cause for a for a Grand Final?

2180
01:49:43,307 --> 01:49:45,867
Speaker 20: You'd have to say so, based on how if you

2181
01:49:45,907 --> 01:49:47,547
Speaker 20: look at the form over the last twelve months and

2182
01:49:47,667 --> 01:49:49,387
Speaker 20: the kind of rivalry that the two guys have, I

2183
01:49:49,427 --> 01:49:51,787
Speaker 20: think it's good for the sport as well, just based

2184
01:49:51,787 --> 01:49:54,147
Speaker 20: on everything that they've done, you know, the the tournaments

2185
01:49:54,147 --> 01:49:56,707
Speaker 20: they've won, and there's everything that I would say that

2186
01:49:56,947 --> 01:49:59,227
Speaker 20: the two faces of darts at the moment, the two looks,

2187
01:49:59,267 --> 01:50:02,067
Speaker 20: and I think it would be a sitting final considering

2188
01:50:02,107 --> 01:50:04,147
Speaker 20: everything that has happened this year, easily been the two

2189
01:50:04,187 --> 01:50:06,987
Speaker 20: best players. And as we know, the prize at the

2190
01:50:07,107 --> 01:50:09,227
Speaker 20: end of one million pound prize for the winner, so

2191
01:50:09,587 --> 01:50:11,187
Speaker 20: whoever gets that will go to the number one in

2192
01:50:11,227 --> 01:50:13,667
Speaker 20: the ranking, and yeah, it's going to definitely be a

2193
01:50:13,707 --> 01:50:15,667
Speaker 20: collision course. I can't really see both of them getting

2194
01:50:15,707 --> 01:50:17,987
Speaker 20: stopped to be honest, but I mean darts is a

2195
01:50:18,027 --> 01:50:19,547
Speaker 20: bit of a funny game. I don't think many people

2196
01:50:19,547 --> 01:50:22,227
Speaker 20: would have had David Beanie Mike Dedeca, so that the

2197
01:50:22,267 --> 01:50:24,347
Speaker 20: sums it up, Yeah, that suns that up.

2198
01:50:24,347 --> 01:50:26,507
Speaker 2: Playing Indeed, Michael van Gerwin is going to be there

2199
01:50:26,587 --> 01:50:29,827
Speaker 2: or thereabouts. Was interested to look at last year's two

2200
01:50:29,867 --> 01:50:34,827
Speaker 2: beaten semi finalists, the english Men Chris Dobie and Stephen Bunting.

2201
01:50:34,947 --> 01:50:37,507
Speaker 2: They don't seem to be as heavily backed or as

2202
01:50:37,547 --> 01:50:40,107
Speaker 2: heavily favored as I thought they would be. Have they

2203
01:50:40,227 --> 01:50:43,147
Speaker 2: had challenging years since the last World Champs.

2204
01:50:44,027 --> 01:50:46,667
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think part of that comes down to after

2205
01:50:46,787 --> 01:50:50,387
Speaker 20: doing well, you get more opportunities and other agains. So

2206
01:50:50,467 --> 01:50:52,907
Speaker 20: whether that's playing in the Premier League or both came

2207
01:50:52,987 --> 01:50:54,627
Speaker 20: down here for the World Series of Darts, and I

2208
01:50:54,667 --> 01:50:57,147
Speaker 20: think just you know, that extra time, that extra travel,

2209
01:50:57,707 --> 01:50:59,507
Speaker 20: I think part of that just adds up and you

2210
01:50:59,787 --> 01:51:00,667
Speaker 20: you're just doing a lot.

2211
01:51:00,587 --> 01:51:02,707
Speaker 6: More than you probably were in the previous years.

2212
01:51:02,787 --> 01:51:05,387
Speaker 20: So in terms of like a schedule, for example, you

2213
01:51:05,467 --> 01:51:07,827
Speaker 20: might be playing a few times a week, but then

2214
01:51:07,867 --> 01:51:10,987
Speaker 20: you end up playing almost every week and you're you're

2215
01:51:11,107 --> 01:51:12,987
Speaker 20: you're away from home, five to six days a week,

2216
01:51:13,067 --> 01:51:15,347
Speaker 20: sometimes longer, and I think sometimes it does catch up

2217
01:51:15,387 --> 01:51:18,187
Speaker 20: on the players, but it also just happens that, you know,

2218
01:51:18,267 --> 01:51:20,027
Speaker 20: they just had a bit of form last year and

2219
01:51:20,307 --> 01:51:21,787
Speaker 20: that forms just kind of dipped a little bit and

2220
01:51:21,827 --> 01:51:23,987
Speaker 20: they just got to find it. So it is interesting,

2221
01:51:24,107 --> 01:51:26,867
Speaker 20: but we seem to do get a few different semi

2222
01:51:26,947 --> 01:51:29,027
Speaker 20: finalists every year. Is usually one or two players that

2223
01:51:29,587 --> 01:51:31,667
Speaker 20: kind of just sneaks through the cracks and just you know,

2224
01:51:31,787 --> 01:51:34,387
Speaker 20: rise up to the occasion. But yeah, I think part

2225
01:51:34,427 --> 01:51:36,667
Speaker 20: of it's just that that schedule and that workload and

2226
01:51:36,787 --> 01:51:39,787
Speaker 20: just how to manage it, and because they're just on

2227
01:51:39,907 --> 01:51:41,467
Speaker 20: that on coverage a lot more and playing a lot

2228
01:51:41,507 --> 01:51:44,347
Speaker 20: more games, and I guess being the life of professional

2229
01:51:44,427 --> 01:51:46,107
Speaker 20: darts player isn't always all glitz and glam.

2230
01:51:46,747 --> 01:51:50,547
Speaker 2: Johnny Tarta paying two twenty five Ryan meekal a dollar sixty.

2231
01:51:50,867 --> 01:51:52,947
Speaker 2: I think I'll get on Johnny Tarta, Ben with that

2232
01:51:53,067 --> 01:51:53,947
Speaker 2: meet with your approval.

2233
01:51:54,827 --> 01:51:57,067
Speaker 6: If it's your money, Piney, I'm I'm happy. I'm happy

2234
01:51:57,067 --> 01:51:58,227
Speaker 6: as Larry you go that way.

2235
01:51:59,187 --> 01:52:01,387
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to ask you to invest in my

2236
01:52:02,267 --> 01:52:05,507
Speaker 2: in my betting heaven, but thanks so much for your

2237
01:52:05,587 --> 01:52:08,147
Speaker 2: comprehensive right, well, look forward to catching up over the

2238
01:52:08,187 --> 01:52:11,187
Speaker 2: next couple of weekends, says Pineys. We good Christmas, bad

2239
01:52:11,827 --> 01:52:14,707
Speaker 2: Good Christmas to Ben Ben France is our darts expert.

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01:52:14,787 --> 01:52:17,627
Speaker 2: Here on Weekend Sport twenty one to three. Let's play

2241
01:52:17,627 --> 01:52:19,827
Speaker 2: a sporting chance with the tab. I'm going to offer

2242
01:52:19,867 --> 01:52:22,707
Speaker 2: you three bets short, evens or long. You decide which

2243
01:52:22,747 --> 01:52:24,827
Speaker 2: one you want. We'll place a one hundred and fifty

2244
01:52:24,867 --> 01:52:27,467
Speaker 2: dollars bonus bet on your behalf if it comes home.

2245
01:52:27,587 --> 01:52:30,347
Speaker 2: The winnings minus the initial one fifty all yours. You

2246
01:52:30,467 --> 01:52:32,827
Speaker 2: must be over eighteen if you'd like to play, call

2247
01:52:32,907 --> 01:52:35,187
Speaker 2: now eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

2248
01:52:35,667 --> 01:52:39,347
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

2249
01:52:39,427 --> 01:52:42,987
Speaker 1: Pyne and GJ. Gunner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

2250
01:52:43,027 --> 01:52:48,067
Speaker 1: builder News Talks and b It's time for a sporting

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01:52:48,187 --> 01:52:50,267
Speaker 1: chance thanks to Tab.

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01:52:51,667 --> 01:52:54,227
Speaker 2: Eighteen to three. Pretty simple concept. Are going to put

2253
01:52:54,267 --> 01:52:56,187
Speaker 2: Phil on the air in a moment, give him three

2254
01:52:56,227 --> 01:52:58,947
Speaker 2: options short, evens and long. He's going to decide which

2255
01:52:58,947 --> 01:53:01,187
Speaker 2: one he wants, will place the one hundred and fifty

2256
01:53:01,187 --> 01:53:03,987
Speaker 2: dollars bonus bet, and if it comes in, he keeps

2257
01:53:04,027 --> 01:53:07,187
Speaker 2: the winnings. Does that fairly self explained Phil?

2258
01:53:08,307 --> 01:53:11,107
Speaker 18: Yeah, it sounds pretty pretty easy, yes, yeah, yeah.

2259
01:53:11,187 --> 01:53:14,387
Speaker 2: Well let's see how you go. Here are your three options.

2260
01:53:15,107 --> 01:53:19,467
Speaker 2: Short Premier League Everton against Arsenal, the match result, Arsenal

2261
01:53:19,587 --> 01:53:22,347
Speaker 2: to win, it's playing a dollar fifty seven, you would

2262
01:53:22,347 --> 01:53:25,427
Speaker 2: win eighty five dollars fifty. That is the short option.

2263
01:53:26,307 --> 01:53:31,147
Speaker 2: The second the Evans is also football Wellington Phoenix, Central

2264
01:53:31,187 --> 01:53:36,507
Speaker 2: Coast Mariners. This game's tomorrow. Anytime goalscorer Carlo Armiento, who's

2265
01:53:36,547 --> 01:53:39,587
Speaker 2: got a couple this year for the Phoenix three dollars sixty,

2266
01:53:40,227 --> 01:53:44,187
Speaker 2: you would win three hundred and ninety dollars for that one.

2267
01:53:45,147 --> 01:53:49,587
Speaker 2: And your long is the Ashes Test, which is going

2268
01:53:49,627 --> 01:53:54,387
Speaker 2: on at the moment, Australia against England. Top Australian second

2269
01:53:54,547 --> 01:53:59,627
Speaker 2: innings bowler Cameron Green. He's paying twelve dollars. If he

2270
01:53:59,707 --> 01:54:03,027
Speaker 2: gets the most wickets in the second innings, you would

2271
01:54:03,067 --> 01:54:08,307
Speaker 2: win one thousand, six hundred and fifty dollars. So, Phil,

2272
01:54:08,747 --> 01:54:12,147
Speaker 2: do you choose Arsenal to beat Everton to win eighty

2273
01:54:12,267 --> 01:54:15,947
Speaker 2: five dollars fifty Carlo Armento to score for the Phoenix

2274
01:54:16,027 --> 01:54:19,667
Speaker 2: tomorrow to win three hundred and ninety or cam Green

2275
01:54:19,787 --> 01:54:22,347
Speaker 2: to be the best Australian bowler in England's second innings

2276
01:54:22,747 --> 01:54:25,187
Speaker 2: to win one thousand, six hundred and fifty. It is

2277
01:54:25,227 --> 01:54:25,827
Speaker 2: your choice.

2278
01:54:26,947 --> 01:54:27,507
Speaker 12: Very tempting.

2279
01:54:27,707 --> 01:54:31,427
Speaker 18: I mean, I follow the Premier League myself, team United

2280
01:54:31,747 --> 01:54:34,987
Speaker 18: Man United fans, so I'll go for Arsenal to beat Everton.

2281
01:54:35,027 --> 01:54:36,547
Speaker 18: I mean, it's a tough, tough match, but I think

2282
01:54:36,587 --> 01:54:39,267
Speaker 18: they'll they'll just want to say like two and two one,

2283
01:54:39,307 --> 01:54:40,947
Speaker 18: So I'll go for the Arsenals.

2284
01:54:41,627 --> 01:54:43,907
Speaker 2: Nice one, Phil, Yeah, a nice little eighty five dollars

2285
01:54:43,947 --> 01:54:47,027
Speaker 2: fifty to spend on Christmas treats, et cetera. We'll place

2286
01:54:47,067 --> 01:54:49,267
Speaker 2: the bet for you, Phil, as a man, you fan,

2287
01:54:49,507 --> 01:54:51,707
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think we I don't think you

2288
01:54:51,787 --> 01:54:54,467
Speaker 2: need to cheer for Arsenal necessarily, but in this case

2289
01:54:54,507 --> 01:54:56,467
Speaker 2: it'll be allowed. And if they do get home and

2290
01:54:56,507 --> 01:54:58,667
Speaker 2: beat Everton on I think that game might be on

2291
01:54:58,787 --> 01:55:01,667
Speaker 2: Monday morning, then you'll win eighty five dollars fifty. We'll

2292
01:55:01,667 --> 01:55:03,907
Speaker 2: place the bet for you and keep our fingers crossed

2293
01:55:04,747 --> 01:55:07,347
Speaker 2: and we'll do it well again next year. I presume

2294
01:55:07,427 --> 01:55:09,147
Speaker 2: this is the last one for this year. Hopefully the

2295
01:55:09,227 --> 01:55:11,907
Speaker 2: tob will be back next year to play a sporting

2296
01:55:12,027 --> 01:55:15,627
Speaker 2: chance again has always bet responsibly. Hold there, Phil, We'll

2297
01:55:15,627 --> 01:55:18,507
Speaker 2: make sure we've got all your details. Coming up quarter

2298
01:55:18,627 --> 01:55:20,747
Speaker 2: to three, Let's get you to the Mountain Bay Oval

2299
01:55:20,827 --> 01:55:25,067
Speaker 2: where the black Caps Bowl is. Toil away any joy

2300
01:55:25,227 --> 01:55:27,667
Speaker 2: of any particular notes. In the last of a while,

2301
01:55:27,867 --> 01:55:29,187
Speaker 2: Andrew Orderson.

2302
01:55:30,267 --> 01:55:33,427
Speaker 15: Greeting's fining no is the short answers that they had

2303
01:55:33,707 --> 01:55:36,907
Speaker 15: a wicket. Kevin and Luke had a slash and nicked

2304
01:55:36,947 --> 01:55:39,627
Speaker 15: one to Tom Blundele off the Bolling and Michael Ray

2305
01:55:40,107 --> 01:55:42,987
Speaker 15: in the third over after lunch. But since I think

2306
01:55:42,987 --> 01:55:44,787
Speaker 15: it was two in six to three at a point

2307
01:55:45,107 --> 01:55:49,027
Speaker 15: now two forty five to three, Cavin Hodge comfortable on

2308
01:55:49,147 --> 01:55:54,387
Speaker 15: sixty one like Athena's twenty six and New Zealand it's

2309
01:55:54,427 --> 01:55:56,507
Speaker 15: going to be a slog across the Afternoon's going to

2310
01:55:56,547 --> 01:56:00,267
Speaker 15: require a famous stamina perseverance, I think for in these Landers,

2311
01:56:01,227 --> 01:56:03,987
Speaker 15: spin not having much impact at this stage of pining

2312
01:56:04,027 --> 01:56:07,107
Speaker 15: with the Glenn Phillips and ags and action as they

2313
01:56:07,387 --> 01:56:08,827
Speaker 15: try and work up these footmarks.

2314
01:56:09,587 --> 01:56:13,587
Speaker 2: You've been at all three Test matches and watched obviously

2315
01:56:13,707 --> 01:56:15,787
Speaker 2: both teams, and I guess with the exception of the

2316
01:56:15,867 --> 01:56:18,787
Speaker 2: way they batted in Wellington. Have the West Indy surprised

2317
01:56:18,827 --> 01:56:22,507
Speaker 2: you with their backbone? They're intestinal fortitude in the way

2318
01:56:22,547 --> 01:56:24,187
Speaker 2: that they've batted in these Test matches.

2319
01:56:25,067 --> 01:56:25,427
Speaker 1: Do you know what?

2320
01:56:25,547 --> 01:56:27,227
Speaker 15: I was just thinking that before I came on air,

2321
01:56:27,267 --> 01:56:30,787
Speaker 15: and I think it's absolutely correct, more than I was expecting.

2322
01:56:31,347 --> 01:56:34,107
Speaker 15: But the spirit seems good in the side. I mean,

2323
01:56:34,427 --> 01:56:37,787
Speaker 15: just going back to their secret center. That was one

2324
01:56:37,787 --> 01:56:40,187
Speaker 15: of the highlights scene before this match, and that's after

2325
01:56:40,307 --> 01:56:43,467
Speaker 15: losing in three days in Wellington. That just seemed like

2326
01:56:43,507 --> 01:56:46,707
Speaker 15: there's a bit of Juda viva in that side and

2327
01:56:46,827 --> 01:56:49,707
Speaker 15: just a good spirit. Over the course of what's been

2328
01:56:49,747 --> 01:56:52,587
Speaker 15: a fairly long tour. Albeit players have come in and out,

2329
01:56:53,427 --> 01:56:55,467
Speaker 15: but I do think that they're showing signs that and

2330
01:56:55,507 --> 01:56:58,427
Speaker 15: that's what's reflected here you say about the fortitude element.

2331
01:56:59,307 --> 01:57:01,067
Speaker 15: I mean, obviously it's a good pitch to dat on

2332
01:57:01,187 --> 01:57:04,787
Speaker 15: at the moment of the third day, but nonetheless they

2333
01:57:04,867 --> 01:57:09,107
Speaker 15: have yet shown that tick that we've been seeing on

2334
01:57:09,187 --> 01:57:11,867
Speaker 15: the screen every day at long this time. Just the

2335
01:57:12,027 --> 01:57:14,227
Speaker 15: history of New Zealand lesson these crickets, and I think

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Speaker 15: they added a reasonable chapter here and one of the

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Speaker 15: themes has actually been about trying to win a Test

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Speaker 15: for the first time in thirty years and the last

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Speaker 15: one at the base in nineteen ninety five. Courtney will

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Speaker 15: standings of sixty five match figures, and that's played a

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01:57:27,707 --> 01:57:29,187
Speaker 15: part as well in their thinking.

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Speaker 2: I was present at some of that Test match orders

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Speaker 2: I can. I can let you know. I was not

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Speaker 2: responsible for the New Zealand loss across that Test match,

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01:57:38,027 --> 01:57:40,507
Speaker 2: but I do remember it quite vividly. I mean, I

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01:57:40,587 --> 01:57:41,747
Speaker 2: guess you have come.

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Speaker 15: You have come up in conversation in the press Fox

2348
01:57:44,147 --> 01:57:47,787
Speaker 15: today too, something about an LBW in a parliamentarian s

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01:57:48,067 --> 01:57:51,867
Speaker 15: versus media match. Actually, and you're getting a decent stride forward.

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Speaker 15: But a national leaf dropper who was at unfiring that

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01:57:55,747 --> 01:57:58,667
Speaker 15: match apparently gave you out of looking off. Kieren mcinolty.

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Speaker 6: Your parents.

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01:58:00,587 --> 01:58:03,067
Speaker 2: Still a bone of contention, I must say whenever I

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01:58:03,147 --> 01:58:05,787
Speaker 2: see Karen, which is quite often. I mean, you know

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01:58:05,907 --> 01:58:08,187
Speaker 2: me orders, I've got quite long legs. I thought I

2356
01:58:08,307 --> 01:58:10,987
Speaker 2: was too far down to be given, but the umpire

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01:58:11,107 --> 01:58:14,947
Speaker 2: thought otherwise. Anyway, we're stray slightly from the points we

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Speaker 2: got we do. Hey, mate, great to tell it.

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Speaker 6: What are you well.

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Speaker 2: We'll look forward to catching up with you again tomorrow

2361
01:58:21,907 --> 01:58:23,867
Speaker 2: because it's always certain this game is going to go

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01:58:23,947 --> 01:58:26,347
Speaker 2: into tomorrow. Waters got to get across to Adelaide though

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01:58:26,427 --> 01:58:28,267
Speaker 2: to check in over there. But thanks for your reports

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01:58:28,307 --> 01:58:31,267
Speaker 2: this afternoon. We'll catch up with you again tomorrow. Andrew

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01:58:31,387 --> 01:58:34,267
Speaker 2: Ordison read him at NZ Herald dot co dot enz

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Speaker 2: and he'll be on the radio with us again tomorrow.

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01:58:36,587 --> 01:58:38,907
Speaker 2: As we as we go into day four. It is

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Speaker 2: day four of the Ashes test at the Adelaide Oval now.

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01:58:42,227 --> 01:58:45,467
Speaker 2: The regular show producer of Weekend Sport Andy McDonnell, has

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Speaker 2: has decided to leave early from his from his post

2371
01:58:50,707 --> 01:58:53,187
Speaker 2: here and go to Adelaide, which sounds a bit noisy.

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01:58:53,227 --> 01:58:55,347
Speaker 2: Are you actually at the Cricketer or in a bar somewhere?

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01:58:56,387 --> 01:58:58,747
Speaker 10: Piney? I come to you live from the Max Fashier

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01:58:58,907 --> 01:59:01,787
Speaker 10: stand on the eastern eastern side of Adelaide Oval. Now

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01:59:02,267 --> 01:59:04,987
Speaker 10: as a producer, I always have to convince people when

2376
01:59:05,587 --> 01:59:09,587
Speaker 10: coming on to a highly esteemed gets you won't sound

2377
01:59:09,627 --> 01:59:12,747
Speaker 10: too bad. But jeez, throwing me after orders as one

2378
01:59:12,747 --> 01:59:14,787
Speaker 10: of the biggest hospital parts you've given me this year,

2379
01:59:14,867 --> 01:59:18,547
Speaker 10: So thanks for that, mate. But it's absolute beautiful scenes

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01:59:18,587 --> 01:59:21,507
Speaker 10: over here, twenty eight degrees, so it's I'll tell you

2381
01:59:21,587 --> 01:59:24,987
Speaker 10: what that's fourteen degrees cooler than what it was on Thursday,

2382
01:59:25,067 --> 01:59:27,867
Speaker 10: So it feels like the low teen's actually over here.

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01:59:28,587 --> 01:59:31,507
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Now I've seen some pictures, You've sent me some photos.

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01:59:31,587 --> 01:59:34,427
Speaker 2: It looks like a spectacular place to watch cricket. What

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01:59:34,627 --> 01:59:37,747
Speaker 2: is the Adelaide Oval like in terms of a sporting

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01:59:38,187 --> 01:59:40,427
Speaker 2: spectator experience.

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01:59:40,507 --> 01:59:43,227
Speaker 10: Well, either they feed you the kool aid on entry,

2388
01:59:43,787 --> 01:59:47,347
Speaker 10: or it would be the best ground I've watched any sport.

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01:59:47,387 --> 01:59:49,747
Speaker 10: Act grant, I haven't watched sport at too many grounds,

2390
01:59:49,787 --> 01:59:53,987
Speaker 10: but I think objectively as a sporting venue, you've got

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01:59:54,067 --> 01:59:57,187
Speaker 10: the tradition with the old scoreboard, but you've got world

2392
01:59:57,227 --> 02:00:01,027
Speaker 10: class stands. I'm looking over at the Sir Donald Bradmam Pavilion.

2393
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Speaker 10: Plenty of shade over there, plenty of shade where I

2394
02:00:04,187 --> 02:00:07,187
Speaker 10: am as well. Fifty eight thousand people. It can hold

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02:00:07,227 --> 02:00:09,387
Speaker 10: as well, and it just it doesn't feel like whereas

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02:00:09,867 --> 02:00:14,027
Speaker 10: your likes of you're eating parks, same similar, similar capacity,

2397
02:00:14,067 --> 02:00:17,627
Speaker 10: but that's more cavinists. This feels almost almost a little

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02:00:17,667 --> 02:00:22,947
Speaker 10: bit of a boutique hit enormous venue. So I couldn't

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Speaker 10: think of anywhere better to watch to watch any code

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02:00:25,827 --> 02:00:29,067
Speaker 10: either Oval as well, So if you're if you're watching

2401
02:00:29,067 --> 02:00:31,707
Speaker 10: a rectangular sport, you're still pretty close to the pretty

2402
02:00:31,747 --> 02:00:32,747
Speaker 10: close to the action as well.

2403
02:00:33,587 --> 02:00:37,627
Speaker 2: And their local boys Travis Head and Alex Carey combining

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Speaker 2: in a major partnership yesterday and into today. See they

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Speaker 2: must love Travis Head over there is.

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Speaker 10: That there hasn't been allowed to cheer for Travis Head

2407
02:00:46,627 --> 02:00:48,707
Speaker 10: than than than what there has been for Travis Head

2408
02:00:48,707 --> 02:00:51,827
Speaker 10: as well. And I think plenty of celebrations last night

2409
02:00:51,907 --> 02:00:56,187
Speaker 10: for his for his hundred, because I think there's quite

2410
02:00:56,227 --> 02:00:58,667
Speaker 10: a lot less people here today than what there were yesterday.

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02:00:58,947 --> 02:01:02,467
Speaker 10: Some English fans not here presumably just not wanting to

2412
02:01:02,507 --> 02:01:05,747
Speaker 10: watch the inevitable, but also also a few sore heads

2413
02:01:05,747 --> 02:01:07,947
Speaker 10: from the last out of the year and the Travis

2414
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Speaker 10: Y celebrations along with Alex Carey. I think over three

2415
02:01:10,987 --> 02:01:14,187
Speaker 10: hundred runs scored by South Australians in the sets match

2416
02:01:15,027 --> 02:01:16,827
Speaker 10: really has given them's own to celebrate.

2417
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Speaker 2: So as we come to you, England have just started

2418
02:01:20,507 --> 02:01:23,067
Speaker 2: their chase for about a million to win this Test.

2419
02:01:23,107 --> 02:01:25,907
Speaker 2: They're already one down. This will go into tomorrow though,

2420
02:01:25,947 --> 02:01:27,387
Speaker 2: won't it or won't or won't it?

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02:01:29,147 --> 02:01:31,267
Speaker 10: It's hard. It's hard to know because you've seen in

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02:01:31,347 --> 02:01:35,747
Speaker 10: the first two sifts, England have kind of folded when

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Speaker 10: it looks inevitable. It's absolutely inevitable now, so I couldn't.

2424
02:01:41,907 --> 02:01:45,067
Speaker 10: I could go fifty fifty either way. But this wicket

2425
02:01:45,267 --> 02:01:49,227
Speaker 10: is absolutely primed for a Nathan Lyon special here. It's

2426
02:01:49,267 --> 02:01:51,947
Speaker 10: starting to break up. Will Jackson's getting some turn off

2427
02:01:51,987 --> 02:01:55,587
Speaker 10: at yesterday, which for a part time spin bowler only

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02:01:55,747 --> 02:01:58,747
Speaker 10: votes pretty ill for England when having to face up

2429
02:01:58,747 --> 02:01:59,987
Speaker 10: against someone like Nathan Lyons.

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Speaker 2: Well, I must say, given the last three or four

2431
02:02:03,147 --> 02:02:04,627
Speaker 2: minutes on the air, I think we need to find

2432
02:02:05,107 --> 02:02:06,827
Speaker 2: a way to get you the more play is next

2433
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Speaker 2: year to.

2434
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Speaker 10: I'm happy to make that sacrifice for you, Boney, and

2435
02:02:13,107 --> 02:02:15,587
Speaker 10: you'll be proud of me because because not a single

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02:02:15,707 --> 02:02:17,507
Speaker 10: drop of he has been had today. I've been I've

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02:02:17,547 --> 02:02:20,547
Speaker 10: been a good boy. But that's the one downsider seventeen

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02:02:20,587 --> 02:02:23,307
Speaker 10: dollars for a finer Adelaide oval, So you've got to

2439
02:02:23,307 --> 02:02:25,427
Speaker 10: be earning a good bit of coin if you've got

2440
02:02:25,467 --> 02:02:26,547
Speaker 10: a drinking habit like mine.

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02:02:27,347 --> 02:02:31,587
Speaker 2: Good enjoy the rest of your stay mate might.

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Speaker 10: Have acriminated myself just then, but thank Bney.

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02:02:34,587 --> 02:02:37,227
Speaker 2: All right mate, take care. Anny McDonald very familiar voice

2444
02:02:37,227 --> 02:02:39,227
Speaker 2: to those who call the show and those who listen

2445
02:02:39,267 --> 02:02:42,107
Speaker 2: to the show. Show producer enjoying himself. He's been at

2446
02:02:42,107 --> 02:02:44,747
Speaker 2: all four days at the Adelaide Oval watching the third

2447
02:02:44,907 --> 02:02:46,787
Speaker 2: Ashes test. Great to hear his voice on the air

2448
02:02:46,827 --> 02:02:48,627
Speaker 2: Away from three News Talk, said.

2449
02:02:48,547 --> 02:02:52,587
Speaker 1: Me from breaking down the Hail, Mary's and the epic

2450
02:02:52,667 --> 02:02:58,507
Speaker 1: Fields Weekend Sport with Jason Paine, News Talk zenby.

2451
02:02:58,827 --> 02:03:01,707
Speaker 2: Five to three. That's pretty much us for weekend Sport today.

2452
02:03:01,867 --> 02:03:04,347
Speaker 2: Just quick look ahead to tomorrow's show. Got quite a

2453
02:03:04,387 --> 02:03:06,307
Speaker 2: bit of variety for you as usual. We hope Mark

2454
02:03:06,507 --> 02:03:11,947
Speaker 2: Harrington is World Rugby's Chief Player, Welfare and Rugby Services Officer.

2455
02:03:12,267 --> 02:03:14,227
Speaker 2: Why are we chatting to him? Well? At the World

2456
02:03:14,467 --> 02:03:18,227
Speaker 2: Under twenty Championship next year they're dropping the tackle height

2457
02:03:18,707 --> 02:03:22,187
Speaker 2: down to Sternham as the highest chicken tackle. Is this

2458
02:03:22,507 --> 02:03:25,227
Speaker 2: another step along the path to this being the case

2459
02:03:25,627 --> 02:03:28,347
Speaker 2: in all rugby? We'll have a yarn about that. Alice

2460
02:03:28,507 --> 02:03:31,027
Speaker 2: Robinson is on the show tomorrow. Man, what a time

2461
02:03:31,107 --> 02:03:33,827
Speaker 2: she's having with the Winter Olympics fast approaching woolves So

2462
02:03:33,947 --> 02:03:35,787
Speaker 2: check in with snow Sports New Zealand head of High

2463
02:03:35,787 --> 02:03:40,227
Speaker 2: Performance Luke Hetzel and Tom Abercrombie's on the show tomorrow too.

2464
02:03:40,467 --> 02:03:43,307
Speaker 2: They're retiring his single at the iconic number ten at

2465
02:03:43,427 --> 02:03:46,547
Speaker 2: Breakers HQ. We'll have a chat to Tom about that

2466
02:03:46,867 --> 02:03:50,987
Speaker 2: and reflect on his incredible Breakers career. Lots more besides

2467
02:03:51,227 --> 02:03:53,667
Speaker 2: huge thanks to Isah, but then go four producing today.

2468
02:03:53,707 --> 02:03:55,827
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Enjoy the rest of your afternoon. We'll be

2469
02:03:55,867 --> 02:03:58,627
Speaker 2: back Tomorrow's to say at mid day, Tim Beverage after

2470
02:03:59,147 --> 02:04:02,307
Speaker 2: three taking us out. We've been Atelaide for the Ashes,

2471
02:04:02,707 --> 02:04:06,547
Speaker 2: so it's Ashes to Ashes, David Bowie. See tomorrow.

2472
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