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Speaker 1: With Adean Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny Woods sowed by
Speaker 1: news talks. That'd be great Fano and welcome along to
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Speaker 1: Jenny decided it was time to make your way back
Speaker 1: to the Netball desk because this weekend we are of
Speaker 1: course gearing up for Round one of the A and
Speaker 1: Z Premiership and ladies. It feels like it's been a
Speaker 1: very long time coming. Super Rugby is nearly finished. We're
Speaker 1: just getting underway. Gen, you went to the A and
Speaker 1: Z launch during the week, how was the vibe?
Speaker 2: The vibe was certainly well vibrant. Actually it was they
Speaker 2: did things a bit differently Netball New Zealand because now
Speaker 2: that the Hits have picked up sponsorship of the competition.
Speaker 2: In the plug, well done they well. In the past
Speaker 2: they would bring up the coach and a captain of
Speaker 2: each of the teams and ask them question. It was
Speaker 2: very much more formal, whereas the Breakfast crew who just
Speaker 2: free wheeled it. I don't know. There was a bit
Speaker 2: of chat about how it went down, but I thought
Speaker 2: the stars of the show where the ladies from Somerset
Speaker 2: retired that you know, they'd come in the van and
Speaker 2: they were parked outside.
Speaker 1: But they background on that is that Somerset are sponsoring Somerset.
Speaker 1: But we don't have to say that, do we know. Well, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it.
Speaker 2: Will be told. But so it was. It was a
Speaker 2: bit looser, but I was buzzing around trying to get little,
Speaker 2: you know, vignettes with people. But it was good. But
Speaker 2: they what they've done is they invited only the players
Speaker 2: who they felt This is nep On New Zealand telling
Speaker 2: me this, that they felt the rule changes would benefit
Speaker 2: So you didn't have every coach and every cat players
Speaker 2: did they think that a lot of shooters, a lot
Speaker 2: of shooters. So but and there was also really no
Speaker 2: new use as such because net Born New Zealand assured
Speaker 2: players there would be a sixteen competition next year. But
Speaker 2: that was it. There was no detail. There was nothing
Speaker 2: more and e pretty.
Speaker 1: Key, who's going to pay for it? But yeah, at
Speaker 1: least we know there's a competition. That's got to be
Speaker 1: a good thing.
Speaker 3: Well you're easily satisfied, let's just start with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was a bit surprised in a
Speaker 2: way because I got a lot of corporate speak from
Speaker 2: Jenny Wiley and co. But and Stephen Hotter, I thought
Speaker 2: gave the quote of the day Instrmance manager Yes to
Speaker 2: news Storks B when he said he was asked, now,
Speaker 2: what you know, what would it be like next year
Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing, and he said, I
Speaker 2: have absolutely no idea how long there's a piece of string.
Speaker 2: But that's that's the state of play.
Speaker 1: And just saying you can say you've got a competition
Speaker 1: if you don't have a broadcasting deal, because where does
Speaker 1: the money come from. I know it's not just broadcasting
Speaker 1: the money that comes from that, but that is a
Speaker 1: huge piece of it. People don't realize is the cost
Speaker 1: of producing live sport.
Speaker 3: It is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, if you're topped up
Speaker 1: and you're broadcasting deal with an extra bit of cash,
Speaker 1: what helps you run the competition? So if you don't
Speaker 1: have that lockdown, you've got commercial sponsors perhaps, but for
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that we've got an AMZI Premiership that's not.
Speaker 3: Going to be broadcasted.
Speaker 1: Oh's and then perhaps there are two teams that are
Speaker 1: going to go and play somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I don't know how not looking.
Speaker 2: From I don't think not years anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what the way I've always understood it is
Speaker 1: Australia's broadcast deal does not finish until the end of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six exactly. So my understanding was if there
Speaker 1: was any changes in Australia, I mean, to be fair,
Speaker 1: as Alice, you could wrangle whatever she wanted. But my
Speaker 1: understanding was that was more of the climic. That more
Speaker 1: likely was it was twenty twenty seven when you'd see
Speaker 1: that change potentially. So twenty twenty six, well, it's looking
Speaker 1: pretty dire. Twenty three, let's get into twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: the saving grace.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that, So let's get into
Speaker 3: the into this season.
Speaker 1: Of course, a few didn't listen to the episode of
Speaker 1: Insipul last week we went through three of the six
Speaker 1: AZ teams. Who do we talk about the Mystic Stars Magic.
Speaker 1: Today we'll finish the last three Pulse, Steel and Tactics,
Speaker 1: and then of course, with Round one beginning, we'll go
Speaker 1: through each of the three games. In fact, there are
Speaker 1: really good matchups over round one. But if we get
Speaker 1: into the first team to go through of our last three.
Speaker 3: Let's go start with the Pulse for you, Jenny who.
Speaker 2: I'm a bit concerned about the Pulse because they have
Speaker 2: so many isis and it happened last year and we
Speaker 2: were all worried. But look at them. They made the
Speaker 2: final and they damn near won the thing. But they've
Speaker 2: picked up Gabby Simpson. You love Gabby Simpson, Oh do I?
Speaker 2: But you know, temporary replacement player. I couldn't believe she's
Speaker 2: only thirty two? Is she only thirty two?
Speaker 3: Forty one tests for the Diamonds.
Speaker 1: She must be young when she played her test matches there, Well,
Speaker 1: she must be.
Speaker 2: I could never understand why they picked well she they
Speaker 2: just stopped picking it least, and that's why she retired.
Speaker 2: I think because she Jamie Lee.
Speaker 1: Price came in and there's a few pretty good. Would
Speaker 1: you pick the Price over probably, yes, Simpson. She's a
Speaker 1: she's a typical graft hard can be pretty physical, you
Speaker 1: know the Aussie physical backpack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, human backpack.
Speaker 1: But she's a huge she's a huge game for the Pulse,
Speaker 1: as is Molly Sullah.
Speaker 3: She's another one.
Speaker 2: Well she is. But going back to Price, sorry Simpson.
Speaker 2: The reason they've picked her up is as cover for
Speaker 2: Whitney Soonis and Gordon Naddie Gordon. So apparently Gordon didn't
Speaker 2: she didn't do it. I shouldn't say that. Hurt her
Speaker 2: knee in a pre season game and sooner anal surgery
Speaker 2: before Christmas. So and they are fully expecting that they
Speaker 2: will be all better after just you know, the early games.
Speaker 2: But the thing with this competition, it's so short. You know,
Speaker 2: you can't have early games. So I think the people
Speaker 2: who see the pulse of the threat will want to
Speaker 2: play them sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: And you saw in a news article this week, Donald Wilkins,
Speaker 1: when you threw they all spoke about exactly your point
Speaker 1: two rounds. You cannot drop games early. When it was three,
Speaker 1: you know, you could have the odd game because you
Speaker 1: had time to catch up and still make those top
Speaker 1: three this year. And that's what makes me nervous. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Jin about the pulse we don't know, and
Speaker 1: that they're not telling us.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Of course they keep me it close to their chest
Speaker 1: about when Sooners and Gordon are going to be back,
Speaker 1: but it's been very you know, it's kind of.
Speaker 2: Early in the rounds.
Speaker 1: But there's no date to that, so that's going to
Speaker 1: be a real concern for them. Keana Williams she's also out.
Speaker 1: My goodness, that young lady is.
Speaker 3: She had a bad run.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's had a run, so that's her shoulder and
Speaker 1: the other thing. Going back to Gabby Simpson, I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting is you know there's always that tussle do
Speaker 1: you bring in your in and our plas that you've
Speaker 1: worked and you've put all your time into. But Anna,
Speaker 1: she's the coach of the Pulse, have said no, we
Speaker 1: would normally, but we needed to bring an experience. We
Speaker 1: haven't had time to blood anyone into this team. That's
Speaker 1: why we've brought an experience and something completely different. And
Speaker 1: I mean every time they bring in someone from outside
Speaker 1: New Zealand and import I actually love it. I think
Speaker 1: it's the competition. So I can't wait see Gabby Simpson.
Speaker 1: I think the saving grace perhaps with the Pulses that
Speaker 1: they're all getting injured so early that hopefully in two
Speaker 1: rounds in they'll all be recovering and they've got them
Speaker 1: out of their system.
Speaker 3: Big one for me.
Speaker 1: And Andrews Tsola, second year at the Helm. I think
Speaker 1: she'll want to consolidate on what she started last year
Speaker 1: with the Pulse. Let's not forget they were They only
Speaker 1: lost the final by one to the Mists. Had were
Speaker 1: there or thereabouts. Yeah, and Vicky Wilson is one of
Speaker 1: the coaches as well. She's doing a lot of work
Speaker 1: with the shooters. So whilst I'm a little bit on
Speaker 1: the fence about the fitness levels of both Matudo and
Speaker 1: Mali Sella, that means Warmsley's going to have to come
Speaker 1: into the game. And she's got a big year this
Speaker 1: year Pulse. She's off to Gibraltar for the Neckle Wieldeth
Speaker 1: Cup at the end of the year, so her load's
Speaker 1: going to be massive and it's a big year for
Speaker 1: her because you know often last year was kind of
Speaker 1: her first year really coming in as a starting goal shooter,
Speaker 1: and often you get found out in your second year.
Speaker 3: So I think the pressure is going to go on her.
Speaker 2: Well, they lost Salmon, didn't they She's gone South and.
Speaker 3: They used to play fifty fifty, didn't they did? And
Speaker 3: Salmon last year.
Speaker 2: As the player I'm really looking forward to seeing is
Speaker 2: this Ainsleyanna Pulliata and she's good. She is good, and
Speaker 2: she's she's had three a field and I'm just when
Speaker 2: she takes the court, I will be offering a prayer.
Speaker 3: Or I'm lucky to do one ac alb three.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be wonder if that is getting to
Speaker 1: the end of her career ending a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four, and she's a you know what a great
Speaker 2: family she must have behind it, because that speaks volumes.
Speaker 2: But so yes, I will certainly be looking forward to
Speaker 2: watching them.
Speaker 1: And they've got Paris Mason. I love Paris Mason. She's brilliant.
Speaker 1: And Paris and Kelly Jackson. I mean, of all the
Speaker 1: defensive Joe's probably only the Tactics that got such a
Speaker 1: strong defensive combination in that circle. So that in itself
Speaker 1: gives them a massive bunt. So the strength of the pulse,
Speaker 1: of the fact that they've been in the final, they've
Speaker 1: won it three times before, their defense end is very strong,
Speaker 1: and certainly their mid court. Okay, if we move down
Speaker 1: south to the Tactics, wow, gosh, you never rule out
Speaker 1: a team and the Red and Black, especially with Donna
Speaker 1: Wilkins at the helm. I am so looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing what Donna can do with his tactic side. They've
Speaker 1: lost a couple of key players. I think you know,
Speaker 1: losing POI will be a big one. And I think
Speaker 1: looking at the layout of their squad, I think the
Speaker 1: mid court for the Tactics will be their weakest, but
Speaker 1: their defense end of Berger and Watson will be the
Speaker 1: strongest in the league. And you've got TP and Salmon
Speaker 1: both who will shoot those two point shots. And let's
Speaker 1: not forget about Bird, who came to the party last
Speaker 1: year as a replacement player and shot the second highest
Speaker 1: of the league, you know, on ninety three percent. And
Speaker 1: the Tactics were actually in the top two for every
Speaker 1: round of twenty twenty four. They only fell out of
Speaker 1: it when they lost the Mystics in that elimination final.
Speaker 1: So they are there or thereabouts, the Tactics. But Donna Adeane,
Speaker 1: I mean, she was a great player. I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing her influence as a coach. Well, she's going
Speaker 1: to be the first coach that uses the coach box,
Speaker 1: I reckon because she's used to you know, that basketball
Speaker 1: scenario of walking up and down the corner.
Speaker 3: I can just visualize her not screaming at her place.
Speaker 3: We're giving them active instructions.
Speaker 1: Actually, what I found really interesting this week and again
Speaker 1: another article I read and you could hear Robbie Broughton
Speaker 1: coming out and watch was saying. She said, you've got
Speaker 1: to earn your right to play in her team in
Speaker 1: a starting seven. So almost gives you the sense there's
Speaker 1: not going to be a lot of changes in this team.
Speaker 1: She's going to stick with their starting seven. She's going
Speaker 1: to go with her tried and true. She might make
Speaker 1: the odd change, but it's going to be hard to
Speaker 1: choose who's starting seven because they have They've got some
Speaker 1: fabulous players in there. Martina Salmon for me, massive pickup
Speaker 1: because as we keep talking about, and she would have
Speaker 1: been at the A and Z launch because she is
Speaker 1: a key player that can shoot the two point shot,
Speaker 1: and that to me is why they are elevated in
Speaker 1: my pack. I know we're going to do that later,
Speaker 1: but she's going to be a massive get in that
Speaker 1: shooting end for the tactis. I'm a bit like you Annie,
Speaker 1: I think that mid court. Yes, they've got you to
Speaker 1: kind of Peterson who huge amount of experience, got Paris
Speaker 1: Petitor who's come from the pust, she's from the post.
Speaker 3: Another good player. But probably you know when you look at.
Speaker 1: The book ends, they're outstanding gym but that mid court's
Speaker 1: probably well your number of options there.
Speaker 3: They do it wing defense, but not so much it
Speaker 3: seemed to well.
Speaker 2: It was intrigued to see them pick Ericana Peterson as
Speaker 2: their captain because I thought that's an interesting one. I meaned.
Speaker 3: To be fish when she's come back from but the Dean.
Speaker 2: Has but I thought they might have got perhaps gone
Speaker 2: back to Jane Watson, but I don't know that. I
Speaker 2: don't know that the captaincy came naturally to her.
Speaker 1: So she's still traveling as well, that could be, and
Speaker 1: she's got a child now.
Speaker 2: Sort.
Speaker 1: It just does take the pressure off them, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: They've they've got the pressure of being silver Ferns and
Speaker 1: having to go out there and do well.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's quite nice to take it off them.
Speaker 2: But one of they've got one of the players that
Speaker 2: I just love, Paris Lockertoy, who just oozes enthusiasm and
Speaker 2: vim and vigor.
Speaker 3: I think is all defenses do.
Speaker 1: Which talked about Simpson, she's the wing defense.
Speaker 2: So you know, I have big hopes for this version,
Speaker 2: even though I am terrified of donnad Wilkin.
Speaker 1: But you're going to do an interview with her soon
Speaker 1: and just you know, rip that band aid.
Speaker 2: That's right, you're well, perhaps I should, but then she
Speaker 2: smiles and she's a beautiful smile.
Speaker 1: Well, she's a beautiful player. She was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite goal shooters to feed.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Last week I had the Magic in my top two,
Speaker 1: and I can now confirm that Tactics is my other team.
Speaker 3: In my top two. So I'm going to go down. Sorry,
Speaker 3: Tactics and Magic.
Speaker 1: Okay, if we move further down the south, the Steel
Speaker 1: six new contracted players, so they've had the most change
Speaker 1: than any other team, new coach, new assistant coach. For me,
Speaker 1: I think Poy is a great edition in the mid court.
Speaker 1: They've obviously picked up Done from the Tech from the Tactics,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be pinning a lot on a
Speaker 1: Leah Dunn down that circle because if she plays well,
Speaker 1: I think they'll be they'll be very good. They've got
Speaker 1: Poy feeding her. They've got Donna Kumakummer, she's another up
Speaker 1: and coming mid quarter. But if Done goes off and
Speaker 1: she can, she's a bit of a hot and cold player.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've got many options.
Speaker 2: Well, but they have got hefnan.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: But they've got the other one in the middle quite handy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a huge heaven and fan, but I
Speaker 2: like the reasons and I'm going back to done now
Speaker 2: because I just she was saying, you know, because she's
Speaker 2: an Acado girl, but she's never played for Steal Steele
Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, nice reasons. She's saying her grandmothers
Speaker 2: aren't getting any younger, and you know it was the
Speaker 2: pull of the family. But they I don't know. I
Speaker 2: had a chat to Wendy Frew the other day that
Speaker 2: the big strength she has with her is the woman
Speaker 2: who's coaching with her and who look, let's not forget
Speaker 2: she won a tiny Jamison as coaches England team over
Speaker 2: the Silver Ferns and that was only last year, so
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's some big nouse there. But
Speaker 2: she's not out on court. But we'll just have to
Speaker 2: wait and see. So they I will be looking forward
Speaker 2: to seeing them, but they're not quite in my top three.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, for sixteen rounds last year they were on
Speaker 1: the bottom of the table. Think it was round seven
Speaker 1: they got off the bottom. They got on lucky though
Speaker 1: the last two years I've had so unlucky with injury.
Speaker 1: It's every time I've lost a key shooter, and let's
Speaker 1: be honest. I know we think we're important in the
Speaker 1: MC court, but if you lose your shooter, and you
Speaker 1: lose your key shooter, you're on the back foot to
Speaker 1: start with. I've also picked up Stuyce, who we haven't
Speaker 1: talked to. Ye left the Mystic so she'll be up again.
Speaker 1: She'll be with Abbie Lawson and Dakota Thomas who was
Speaker 1: who is us? Who was a swifts training partner. Sorry,
Speaker 1: So that's the defense end for the steal and great
Speaker 1: opportunity for starts.
Speaker 3: She didn't get on.
Speaker 1: You know, she wasn't the starting seven every round for
Speaker 1: the Mystics, but perhaps you get a sense that for
Speaker 1: the Steel she will be and it will be time
Speaker 1: for her to really consolidate. Yeah, I think it will
Speaker 1: be a good opportunity for her because I think she
Speaker 1: would have to be you'd have to pick her in
Speaker 1: your starting seven down there, and it is. It's an
Speaker 1: opportunity for her to go out week on week have
Speaker 1: a real impact. She's got some great height. We know
Speaker 1: she's not afraid to come out and get intercept, so
Speaker 1: a real opportunity. But yeah, still I love the Steel
Speaker 1: we all know my heart sits down there, but I
Speaker 1: will be honest then not in my top three. No,
Speaker 1: And just talking of Dakota Thomas, who's one of the imports.
Speaker 1: There's a few imports that we haven't talked. Oh, obviously
Speaker 1: Wallam's one of the imports. For the Mystics. You've got
Speaker 1: Charlie Boo with the Stars, she's an import. Remy Carmo
Speaker 1: is not an import because she can Actually she's allergib
Speaker 1: plans because of her hairs. Who else have we got
Speaker 1: in the competition? We's got Charlie had left for the
Speaker 1: she was with the Giants.
Speaker 2: Do we get a bit star struck by imports? I mean,
Speaker 2: were these big players across the tasment.
Speaker 3: Well a lot of them were only training partners.
Speaker 1: So I kind of like the story of the different
Speaker 1: imports that have come to New Zealand because yeah, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them have come here because they haven't
Speaker 1: had an opportunity in Australia. They come over and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they shine. You know, you think of
Speaker 1: amilianic Canatio, she was in Australia, she came over here
Speaker 1: now and I'm helping to make it in make it
Speaker 1: for the Firebirds. She's our silver and captain and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to played for the Pulse goal shooter, never got
Speaker 1: time in Australia, came to New Zealand. This is a
Speaker 1: few years ago, and then made it into the Diamonds.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, completely shone when she came here. And if
Speaker 1: you look way way way back when we played for
Speaker 1: the Sting, we had what was anil gil.
Speaker 2: I know, okay, nod is a surname.
Speaker 3: Now you're trying to guess that it's going to come
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: We carry on.
Speaker 3: Even before that.
Speaker 2: But we'll get to it.
Speaker 3: We'll get to It'll look on my Facebook, pat, but
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: That's what I love about them. They've taken their punt.
Speaker 1: Just like Grace hair is, going to Australia brings something
Speaker 1: to it, gives us.
Speaker 2: Someone new to talk about it because they thrive on
Speaker 2: different people thrive in different environments. And obviously Alan and
Speaker 2: actually Danelle Wallam was talking about that the other day,
Speaker 2: just saying how much she's just fitted in to the
Speaker 2: Mystics environment and loving it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that. Because the Mystics play the Stars.
Speaker 1: That's the second game of the round on Sunday, I'm
Speaker 1: actually doing that.
Speaker 3: That game interesting, interesting matchup.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of the Mystics a little bit unknign
Speaker 1: for me because Walom is at the back. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: Mystics are back to back champions. They had Grace. They
Speaker 1: were lucky to have Grace and Wiki at the back
Speaker 1: for the last two years. I guess the big question
Speaker 1: is out the Mystics good enough without Grace?
Speaker 2: Well, I think they will be. But to me, the
Speaker 2: bigger question around the Mystics is the defensive end. No Phoenix,
Speaker 2: at least early on we all.
Speaker 3: Are you banking on the fact she's going to be
Speaker 3: coming back?
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't put it.
Speaker 3: She's the commentary team for sure, is four weeks old.
Speaker 3: This is Phoenix. To be honest, photo of.
Speaker 2: Her, she's you never guess that she's just had a baby.
Speaker 2: But well but I am having my eyes replaced.
Speaker 1: So no, there's no doubt she looks good. But I
Speaker 1: hadn't heard the whisper that she was thinking of coming back.
Speaker 2: Anyway. We'll move right along, maybe Scoop Christie obviously already south.
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: in that defensive end, and I just don't know, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think they'll be up there. But
Speaker 2: and you know, Michayla Sotockolets beats and and.
Speaker 3: Uh MELLERI bu Kennan, we're all struggling with.
Speaker 2: In fact, is Mela playing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We've got double banger names. Mila I assume will be
Speaker 1: on return to play. She did play in that preseason
Speaker 1: game and I was quite impressed with the Stars. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got them in my bottom too. But I think
Speaker 1: they'll they'll they'll beat a few sides. I think the
Speaker 1: book Ends is going to be where it's going to
Speaker 1: be at. So Wallam's going to be on Burleigh. Now
Speaker 1: they're thirteen centimeter a height difference there, so Burley is
Speaker 1: quite a bit shorter than Walom. And then you've got Bell,
Speaker 1: who's the goal shooter for the Stars, who's the tallest
Speaker 1: in the league. She's up against tall not so much
Speaker 1: of a hype mismatch. But yeah, I think that that
Speaker 1: lack of experience, I don't know with the mystics, I
Speaker 1: think the mid court will just cancel itself out. You've
Speaker 1: got Peter, You've got Mela, you've got Taylor.
Speaker 2: Well, you can always put Peter in a goal attack.
Speaker 3: Doing that and wats some on Nathan up to didn't
Speaker 3: we hear she was injured as well?
Speaker 4: Yes she did.
Speaker 3: She did come off in that preseason game.
Speaker 2: What I've heard is the injuries not as bad as
Speaker 2: they officially thought, so it is good.
Speaker 1: So I think whoever takes the athleticism in the circle
Speaker 1: will win that game. So if Bell is more athletic,
Speaker 1: if wal you know, like you know, because the tall
Speaker 1: players Wallom and Bell, But who's going to have that
Speaker 1: athletic ability to really take that take that one? But
Speaker 1: I think if I had to pick, I'd go Mystics
Speaker 1: for that. But I think Stars will push them for
Speaker 1: a half. Well, I'm just going on stats. The Mystics
Speaker 1: have won six of the past seven meetings, including the
Speaker 1: past five, so I know it's different teams, very different team,
Speaker 1: but you know, winning breeds winning, and Mystics know how
Speaker 1: to win.
Speaker 3: But do you be honest, I'm I can't wait to
Speaker 3: see the Stars like that.
Speaker 1: There's so much unknown to me about the Stars, whether
Speaker 1: it be the players, whether it be the coaching staff, everything.
Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see how they're going to
Speaker 1: combine as a seven. So and that's Actually, what I'm
Speaker 1: loving about this whole competition. In the past, it's kind
Speaker 1: of quite an obvious top three. This year, there's so
Speaker 1: much unknown. Well that's how I feel between some of
Speaker 1: the teams, and the Stars are one of those teams.
Speaker 1: From me, can't wait to see them on court, But
Speaker 1: if I was a betting person, I would definitely go
Speaker 1: the mystics from that experience. Can't wait to see Peter
Speaker 1: back out there again. I do not want to see
Speaker 1: her No, technically.
Speaker 2: Very entertaining. Yeah, well, anyway, I am interested. Part of
Speaker 2: the reason I'm so keen about this season is it
Speaker 2: is the coaching combinations. You know, Tennypara and Floyd. I mean,
Speaker 2: I never thought that they were such different personalities, and
Speaker 2: we've worked with them in commentary and plaid.
Speaker 3: A lot together.
Speaker 1: I think when I watched that preseason game with the
Speaker 1: Stars and the Magic, you could you could see the
Speaker 1: influence of Bubby on the court with those Stars players.
Speaker 1: They were turning, they were letting the ball go, they
Speaker 1: were very Bubbyish. And that's why I'm really looking forward
Speaker 1: to seeing what Donna can doing, how she can influence
Speaker 1: those players based on how she played. Because we played
Speaker 1: with Donna. We played with Bubby and we played in
Speaker 1: that era where we did just turn and let the
Speaker 1: ball go. So so you know, yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed watching with that Stars side was that you
Speaker 1: could see that Bubby was the coach and defensively, yeah,
Speaker 1: Floyd's got that massive influence down the back as well.
Speaker 2: With Bubby.
Speaker 1: I did some work with her recently with some you know,
Speaker 1: we were doing this netble thing. More to come on
Speaker 1: that later, but I was so impressed. We had some
Speaker 1: younger girls with us at the time, and the way
Speaker 1: she coached and the detail she went into and it
Speaker 1: was just so natural for her as a coach. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, it was such a naturateness.
Speaker 1: It was really cool to see firsthand how effective in
Speaker 1: that coaching role she is.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think she will have a huge influence.
Speaker 1: Was like that as a player, wasn't she She could
Speaker 1: connect very well with anyone. So it's no surprise that
Speaker 1: she's taken taken to coaching. Okay, so you go mystics
Speaker 1: or Stars genistics. Okay, that's three for the mistics. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just rewind a day because on Saturday it actually
Speaker 1: all starts and it's the Pulse up against the Magic,
Speaker 1: So this is going to be another fascinating one. That's
Speaker 1: in Palmerston North. Pulse yep, they've got a few injuries.
Speaker 1: Magic are in my top two. The big one for
Speaker 1: me will be Claire O'Brien up against potentially Gabbie Simpson.
Speaker 1: So Claire O'Brien obviously made the Silver Ferns last year,
Speaker 1: She's got a lot to prove in that mid court
Speaker 1: to support the likes of Tui and Echinasio, who I
Speaker 1: think will be great two point shooters. I think, given
Speaker 1: the Pulse are so unsettled at the moment with the
Speaker 1: injuries and players coming and going, and the way the
Speaker 1: Magic have started, I'm going to go Magic for that one.
Speaker 1: I read this is when I really wish, and I
Speaker 1: know you talked about last year, Jina. I wish they
Speaker 1: had to put out like twenty four hours before all
Speaker 1: forty eight hours an injury update, because it's really hard
Speaker 1: to make a call.
Speaker 2: I apect a lot of the main Pulse players won't
Speaker 2: actually be playing, So if that's the case, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think I would probably go Magic anyway. But it
Speaker 2: was interesting talking to Kelly Jackson, who was saying, because
Speaker 2: let's talk about the new rules, and she was talking
Speaker 2: about she loves the problem solving of the two point
Speaker 2: shot because she said it's totally changed the way she plays. Yes,
Speaker 2: and you know, and we've seen this if you've watched
Speaker 2: any of the Australian stuff and they've played enough preseason
Speaker 2: games now under the new rules that you can see
Speaker 2: that they're trying to work things out, they're taking the
Speaker 2: ball in, bringing it out. I'll be fascinated.
Speaker 1: Where As a defender, I guess your job is to
Speaker 1: always keep your shooter, push them, push them out, and
Speaker 1: now they'll be wanting to push them to the goalpost,
Speaker 1: so it changes on the baseline at Lange is the dynamic.
Speaker 2: Other thing I will be watching is the commentary team
Speaker 2: because of course this will be the tvn Z plus two,
Speaker 2: Jenny Mae Clarkson, Courtney Tiree, Kate Wells.
Speaker 3: And Jenny may You did just say Geny may.
Speaker 2: So, and I mean I think it's well, I do
Speaker 2: kind of think it's great because I think it's good
Speaker 2: netballers on free to air and it's well, just this
Speaker 2: will be a fascinating season.
Speaker 1: So for those yeah, for those listening. So just the
Speaker 1: Saturday games are live on TV and Z. It will
Speaker 1: be delayed later on Sky every other game, So Sunday
Speaker 1: games and Monday games are solely just on Sky Sport,
Speaker 1: which is where you would hear Anna A Dean and Jenny.
Speaker 3: Yes, we made the card. So Magic Pulse, are you
Speaker 3: picking DENI?
Speaker 1: Well, again, if I went off sets, which was my
Speaker 1: argument just before a Poles upon nineteen of the previous
Speaker 1: twenty three matches against the Magic. But I'm going to
Speaker 1: have to agree with you two on this one. I
Speaker 1: think the Magic will have this because I don't think
Speaker 1: Pols are going to have their full squad.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to have this, this pulled together team.
Speaker 1: I'm an EMAILI Sullah can be Simpson as we've talked about,
Speaker 1: all really good players. But I think, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it in the last episode Annie the Magic, I
Speaker 1: don't like to say unlucky, but they were so close
Speaker 1: last year of making that final, that top three. It
Speaker 1: was just that elimination match. It was almost they could,
Speaker 1: you know, put their hand down and reach it.
Speaker 3: So I think this is the year. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to Farista and they're
Speaker 1: in my top two, but they are in my top three.
Speaker 1: If I had to pick who will be there at
Speaker 1: final time come the end of the year, Magic are
Speaker 1: going to be one of them. So I think they're
Speaker 1: going to start They're going to start well with the
Speaker 1: settled team and we'll take the one over the Pulse.
Speaker 2: The only change they've made is Kate Taylor's coming, and
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Von A roland Art says a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Matdo playing her one hundredth match as well this weekend
Speaker 1: for the Pulse, so that's a big one for her.
Speaker 3: Okay, So we've we all agreed, so we've gone Magic. Okay.
Speaker 1: So the last game of the round, it's the Southern Derby.
Speaker 1: That one's in christ Church on Is that on Sunday?
Speaker 1: On Monday? I think that's on Sunday as well, two
Speaker 1: games Sunday. I don't think there's any on Monday this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so both on Sunday. This one's always a good tussle.
Speaker 1: Still actually haven't beaten the Tactics since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: Ouch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, I think that the
Speaker 1: Tectics are just too strong all over the court. I
Speaker 1: think the big one for me is done on Watson.
Speaker 1: If Watson and Burger can get the better of Done,
Speaker 1: then it'll be home and his and I think Tactics
Speaker 1: will run away with it.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go Tectics in christ Church.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be interested in. There's just as much as anything,
Speaker 2: just to see the influence of again of the coach's
Speaker 2: Liota and threw. It'll be just because they I mean
Speaker 2: they're both fast little mid quarters. Well yeah they were
Speaker 2: pretty fast actually, but I don't know. My heart has
Speaker 2: drawn a little bit again to the steel only well
Speaker 2: only because.
Speaker 3: I am smile, because you know what you're going. You
Speaker 3: like the trips to the cargo.
Speaker 2: You're not having any of those this year see food chat.
Speaker 2: Well those are days gone by. But I've always been
Speaker 2: fond of the heathen and girls. I just think that's
Speaker 2: how she chooses.
Speaker 3: It's literally who she's fond of. You've got no Bailey anymore.
Speaker 3: This makes it hard for you.
Speaker 2: Husband at the tennis this summer made my day.
Speaker 3: She married. Where have I been?
Speaker 2: I didn't know that?
Speaker 1: Wow, she's also maybe the Swiss legends, Yes I did,
Speaker 1: I did hear that or maybe the Hefenons have replaced
Speaker 1: Bailey mes the heat of the news for you.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I do think probably the Tactics will win,
Speaker 2: but I suspect it will be closer than perhaps some
Speaker 2: of us think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't forget the Tactics have the two most
Speaker 1: experienced players across all teams to pass Albiraca and Jane Watson.
Speaker 1: They've got I think one hundred and ninety six Test
Speaker 1: caps or something between them and just that's just over
Speaker 1: four players, So they've got some big experience and in
Speaker 1: each area of court.
Speaker 3: Burger done, sleep people.
Speaker 2: I have the Tactics never won it.
Speaker 3: We've always wondered that they haven't.
Speaker 1: Always all their shooting end has always been vulnerable under
Speaker 1: the hope. But last year we saw Bird come in
Speaker 1: as a replacement player. She had no pressure on her,
Speaker 1: nothing to lose, and she played her best netball. So
Speaker 1: let's hope she can continue that. And of course now
Speaker 1: they've got Salmon in there as well, so because Tapias
Speaker 1: she's one of those players you know, and we talked
Speaker 1: about last year. You know, we even wondered last year
Speaker 1: if that was her last season, to be honest, didn't
Speaker 1: we she can come in and out of games. But
Speaker 1: as she said, any I think they've got options. They
Speaker 1: can bring Bird on, they can push. We know Martina
Speaker 1: Salmon can play out at Golatat. So they've got three
Speaker 1: really good options down that attacking in that really, I
Speaker 1: mean all of it can play all three. Oh maybe
Speaker 1: not Bird at Goltet, but then you know, I've got
Speaker 1: some They've got combinations. Fascinating. Okay, so we've that's a
Speaker 1: that's a three peet. We've gone the same feach.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm going to give places top three.
Speaker 3: Well you shall start, Okay, the floor is yours.
Speaker 2: I believe this will be the Magic's here.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we need to put a timer on that
Speaker 1: record that date stamp.
Speaker 2: Magic one, Tactics two, Mystics three.
Speaker 3: No, Pulse. Pulse have been in like seven of the
Speaker 3: last nine finals, haven't they. Well, I just you don't
Speaker 3: like stats. You're out with that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm I'm with two of you on those.
Speaker 1: I'll just flip it up and go Tactics one, Magic two,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go Pulse three, just because I
Speaker 1: think they will come good. I think they've had a
Speaker 1: bit of a bad run with injuries. But I think
Speaker 1: you can't deny they've got strength in each area of court,
Speaker 1: and I think having no grace in the Mystics is
Speaker 1: going to be a big ask for the Mistics to
Speaker 1: try and back it up and do a three peek.
Speaker 3: Did you say mistakes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Six, three, Mystics three and you've gone which order? I've
Speaker 1: gone Tactics, Magic, Pulse.
Speaker 3: I haven't gone. Got Mysticks in my top three? Pulse.
Speaker 1: I found this so hard because for me, I want
Speaker 1: to put an asterisk next to the Pulse's name because.
Speaker 3: Of the injuries, like I can't. We're wed to do
Speaker 3: it well.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Tactics and Ergic they are definitely
Speaker 1: in my top three.
Speaker 3: I keep dilly, how old am I eighty?
Speaker 1: Between Mystics and Pulse because of that injury factor. If
Speaker 1: I took out the injury factor, I would put the
Speaker 1: Pulse in easy because I love the players. They've had
Speaker 1: that consistency. There were second last year only lost by
Speaker 1: one and Mystics. We Misstics didn't have grace last year.
Speaker 1: Do they lose like two of these all capitulated? I
Speaker 1: think could be Yeah, and not only have you taken Grace.
Speaker 1: You've taken Phoenix because you.
Speaker 2: Have, because she was meant to be there and then
Speaker 2: she wasn't. That's profound, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I know, yes, because that was the whole tactic that
Speaker 3: was Yes, vomited to Grace.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems wrong to leave the Mystics out in some
Speaker 1: way because they have won three of the last four,
Speaker 1: the last four. I'm going to back the fact that
Speaker 1: Whitney and Maddie will be excellent at their rehab because,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, they will want to play and that's
Speaker 1: their personality. So I'm going to back the fact that
Speaker 1: they are going to come back. They're going to come
Speaker 1: back well, and they're going to come back early in
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 3: Remember they've got Gabby Simpson. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I am going so you and I agree with Tactics,
Speaker 1: Magic and Pulse, and we're only slightly different.
Speaker 3: You'd left Pulse out and invuted the Mystics.
Speaker 1: Well, what we can aground is that the Tectic and
Speaker 1: the Magic are our two teams for twenty twenty five. Wow,
Speaker 1: so were they and on our top three last year.
Speaker 1: I think the Tactics snuck and did and tactics are
Speaker 1: in mine. Yeah, so well, and it's going to be
Speaker 1: a fascinating year. Well time for our fast five segment
Speaker 1: now and Jenny managed, as we heard earlier, to hit
Speaker 1: to the ain Z Premiership launch during the week where
Speaker 1: she caught up with tactics player Martina Salmon.
Speaker 2: Inside Nipple Inside Nipple's Fast five. So if you could
Speaker 2: compete in any other sport, what would it be?
Speaker 4: Oh, probably it would be out of basketball and volleyball,
Speaker 4: but I would probably go volleyball. And why Yeah, I
Speaker 4: grew up playing volleyball and it was out of volleyball
Speaker 4: and netball, so I ended up choosing Nebourn in the end.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just really enjoyed it in school and
Speaker 4: yeah it was my favorite. Yeah, one of my favorite sports.
Speaker 2: And who in your team is most likely to A
Speaker 2: get you into trouble and then b get you out
Speaker 2: of trouble?
Speaker 4: Okay, I've got two For the get me into trouble,
Speaker 4: it would be Pelocks so parents and Charlie find last.
Speaker 3: For them too, yep.
Speaker 4: And to get me out of trouble definitely carden Berger. Yep,
Speaker 4: she strikes. Yeah, she is very sensible.
Speaker 2: Now, if you could invite three athletes to dinner past
Speaker 2: or present? Who would they be?
Speaker 1: Just new?
Speaker 2: No, any any sport?
Speaker 4: Okay, I would go Caitlin Clark, I would go Lebron James.
Speaker 4: And then the last one I would go, I would
Speaker 4: go with Charlotte Castilek from Rugby.
Speaker 2: Oh good, and surely no one else has thought of her. Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 2: So what is your last supper meal?
Speaker 4: My last supper meal?
Speaker 2: Did I have? I had?
Speaker 4: I had spaghetti bomonase.
Speaker 2: Oh so you've had a last supper already? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh like wait, sorry, this was the morning like this morning?
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, not so much this morning.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you if you was going to
Speaker 2: be the last day on you, I would.
Speaker 4: Want Taco Bell.
Speaker 3: Taco Bell.
Speaker 4: I'm loving it so much. So yeah, definitely Taco Bell.
Speaker 4: It's my cheap meal at the moment.
Speaker 2: Now, what's your best piece of advice that anyone's ever
Speaker 2: given you?
Speaker 4: I think just believe in myself. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I always get told a few believe in yourself, anything
Speaker 4: and everything as possible.
Speaker 2: Talking all things netball inside nedball.
Speaker 3: Okay, Geene, were you really in the toilet interviewing?
Speaker 4: My I was?
Speaker 2: I was because the venue where they had the launch
Speaker 2: was a lot of concrete, so it was very echoey,
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 3: I wasn't a toilet normally echoey too.
Speaker 2: Well, as it turned out, yes, the best audio was
Speaker 2: actually out on the street with the you know, the
Speaker 2: birds and the lots.
Speaker 1: Of basketball terms and there a dean at home bro
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Basketball is getting getting a good run. I'm
Speaker 1: just glad that spag Bolden end up being her last
Speaker 1: supper and that that's actually what she had for her
Speaker 1: last time Targo, Each to their own, not much better.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's it from us.
Speaker 1: Remember if you want to catch all the action from
Speaker 1: the first round of the ain Z Premiership, be sure
Speaker 1: to tune into Skysport and TV and Z on Saturday
Speaker 1: until next week. Remember you could download Inside Nebo on
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or wherever you get to your podcast until next week.
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