Speaker 1: And welcome back to the Mad Monday podcast, brought to
Speaker 1: you by four and twenty five. It's a perfect at
Speaker 1: home snack for watching rugby league. You'd be surprised to
Speaker 1: hear me a lot of you listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: I had admitted and accepted taking an early plea to
Speaker 1: kill less podcasting and accepted a one week ban from
Speaker 1: the podcast. Chris the fellow you in and what happened?
Speaker 1: We went out to talk to them, the fellas.
Speaker 2: Out at about Smart. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other day on Monday, Jess Tavanger, we talked to
Speaker 1: Marcela Montour, we talked to look Mitcalff and I asked
Speaker 1: Jess Tavunger how the rehab was going, and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing rehab and I said, oh great.
Speaker 2: And he played really well at the weekend as well.
Speaker 2: He's played for the last ten weeks to go out
Speaker 2: for about a month. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The most confusing part about the whole thing is that
Speaker 1: I have commentated a lot of those games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, to be fair, the state you're in the
Speaker 2: last commentary, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember the Friday one, but yeah, he has
Speaker 1: been in the lineup for quite some time now.
Speaker 3: How did he handle it, because there's two ways in
Speaker 3: my experience, and this has happened to be a lot
Speaker 3: this sort of shit. When I was looking at sky
Speaker 3: is they either like, go, yeah, well no, I haven't
Speaker 3: actually been doing rehab, but I'm feeling really good since
Speaker 3: the injury, and they was just like quickly, or he
Speaker 3: would just like like, I haven't been doing rehab.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. That one.
Speaker 1: That one, there's a full I think there's a full
Speaker 1: video of that going up today of that podcast.
Speaker 2: You can go and watch it on YouTube. Shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that you asking the question and then him
Speaker 3: saying I don't do rehab and then you quickly being like,
Speaker 3: how do I stop bowling a stock wrong? And then
Speaker 3: just quickly switched subject and then playing five starter over
Speaker 3: the top of it. Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: Basically him, he was seen in the video, he just
Speaker 1: like steered me down and then goes, I'm not doing rehab.
Speaker 2: Then he turned to die and he goes because this
Speaker 2: guy done any research? Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Okay, so shit, And the worst part is you don't
Speaker 3: even need to research that because you've been watching the
Speaker 3: games and this is what went wrong.
Speaker 1: In my defense, if I could It was that we
Speaker 1: were actually interviewing someone else and they were injured and
Speaker 1: they got swapped out of the last minute, right, and
Speaker 1: you're right over prepped.
Speaker 2: I don't need to prep for talking about the Warriors.
Speaker 2: To the Warriors.
Speaker 1: I've watched and commentated every single one of the games,
Speaker 1: and so I got nervous, looked down at my piece
Speaker 1: of paper. First question, were you injured? That question was
Speaker 1: for Luck Metcalffe. Yeah, how's your rehab? Gune and did.
Speaker 2: You try and justify it? Afterwards?
Speaker 1: To Jazz, No, that was done. What was the justification
Speaker 1: going to be? I did go no, no, but how
Speaker 1: is the Hammitt? And he goes, yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3: That's like someone heading you up about that flu you
Speaker 3: had like a month ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's well
Speaker 3: and truly gone. I was like, yeah, that was like
Speaker 3: over a month ago, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, anyway, we are back for the Thursday episode.
Speaker 1: This is generally where we look through the team Less,
Speaker 1: give you a couple of super coach tips going into
Speaker 1: the end of your season, as well as our mad
Speaker 1: Monday hunch your team. The Teamless are on the back there, Creston,
Speaker 1: as I cast my eye down a myriad of changes,
Speaker 1: a raft of changes. Most surprisingly to me, just Vunger's back.
Speaker 2: He's a quick recovery far out. Wasn't it a handy?
Speaker 2: But he's back in there.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is something that
Speaker 1: we've all been calling for, maybe too little, too late,
Speaker 1: because we have to go and defeated from here on out.
Speaker 1: But the first name on your team sheet for this
Speaker 1: weekend Roger to us a sheck, he's at full back.
Speaker 1: It's going to be for one week, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: Tames he'll be back. It was a head knock last
Speaker 1: week for Tang. Yeah yeah, pretty nasty had knock. But
Speaker 1: he'll be back in a week. So you're fizzed up.
Speaker 1: What are you expecting from Roger? Because obviously save our season.
Speaker 3: Just classic scenario's back to the Warriors just to save
Speaker 3: the season again. Yeah, but I was thinking about it
Speaker 3: on the way and no Tall, who Harris, no Shawn Johnson,
Speaker 3: no chance a clock start. Those are like our three guys, right,
Speaker 3: those are our three leaders and now much Barnett, Roger
Speaker 3: comes in at fullback. He's a completely different player to
Speaker 3: Chance to kol clock star. He doesn't really unlock that right,
Speaker 3: side a. He's like when you put Joey Marno at
Speaker 3: fullback and he just hummus it hard out but it's sick,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Maybe yeah, So it's going
Speaker 3: to have to be individual brilliance from Roger with him
Speaker 3: at fullback.
Speaker 2: But have you seen the Tigers team. I think he's
Speaker 2: going to get a hat trick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they are. They are tough to look.
Speaker 1: I mean Dream Bullock, great fallback. He's is a good
Speaker 1: try scorer, so as the Forbes Ferrari Charlie Stains. But
Speaker 1: it's quite a young and inexperienced team on the other
Speaker 1: side of the Leger Dream Bullet what is he like
Speaker 1: twenty two? Yeah, he's a young fellow. He's the future
Speaker 1: of the club. Luke low Lily, yep. If he walked
Speaker 1: into the room right now, would you be able to
Speaker 1: point him out of three?
Speaker 2: Luke Lie absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Never heard of the bloke he's starting on the wing
Speaker 3: for them, tap It Solomona and the centers.
Speaker 2: He in a shocker last week.
Speaker 3: Stafford Tula is probably the most experienced and then you've
Speaker 3: got like, I think this has to be one of
Speaker 3: the youngest pairings in the history of the NRL. La'tso
Speaker 3: Finer and Lachland Gavin we're both eighteen.
Speaker 1: If they're not seventeen. Yeah, I think that that was
Speaker 1: a bit of an issue this week though. Did you
Speaker 1: see that Baitman had a blow up with mate Benji?
Speaker 2: Is that what happened. He's gone back to the Super Lege.
Speaker 1: So what happened, allegedly according to those NRL three sixty wounds,
Speaker 1: is that he came into the changing sheds afterwards Angie
Speaker 1: gave him a spray for playing a shit game, and
Speaker 1: he said, you never spray the young fellows. You just
Speaker 1: put you know, big them up and then you shot
Speaker 1: on all the older players. It should all be back
Speaker 1: with blah blah blah. They had it out in front
Speaker 1: of the whole team and then the very next day
Speaker 1: he's signed to the Wigan the WO Wolverhampton Wolves or
Speaker 1: the Wigan Warriors or whoever the fuck he's going to
Speaker 1: play for. Right over there, he's out of here.
Speaker 3: I think John Bateman, this is the second time he's
Speaker 3: like packed to sand and gone back to the UK
Speaker 3: and now I'm back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the kind of guy you want
Speaker 3: at your club, Like you want a guy like Mitch Barnett.
Speaker 3: You don't want a guy who just throws his toys
Speaker 3: heart out in front of everyone and signs to the
Speaker 3: Super League and dropped the hat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it.
Speaker 1: Just continues like a long list of just terrible, terrible
Speaker 1: shit that happens at the West targets.
Speaker 3: Well because who are there and the reason their backline
Speaker 3: this week? So shit is because I was so inexperienced,
Speaker 3: I should say, is because I think Dewey recently came
Speaker 3: back and unresting him.
Speaker 2: It's the seventeenth a c Ellenury or whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he three.
Speaker 3: I think Adam Caesar who was retired at dead and
Speaker 3: buried and they dug him up and they chucked the
Speaker 3: half back jersey on them. He's serving his second suspension
Speaker 3: of the season somehow. And then there was someone else
Speaker 3: in the backs as well who's out for whatever reason
Speaker 3: it might be, which just means it's just the school
Speaker 3: kids are all playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be ready, to be honest, if we
Speaker 3: don't run an absolute mark against this team, it's going
Speaker 3: to just be well, it will be season over. It
Speaker 3: will be we have to win every game we have
Speaker 3: to win every game from here on out to guarantee
Speaker 3: a spot in the playoffs. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 3: even then, absolutely, it's like the amount of teams that
Speaker 3: are sort of vying for those last couple of spots.
Speaker 3: But if we don't run out to put fifty on
Speaker 3: the Tigers just to undo some of the damage and
Speaker 3: that points differential from that Titans.
Speaker 2: Game, just to make just for us to feel good.
Speaker 3: Just exactly just a little palette cleanser, like, Okay, we've
Speaker 3: washed our hands of that. We've absolutely keeped the Tigers ass. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's just shift attention away from us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about because I asked him, like,
Speaker 1: obviously you can't look too far ahead in the season
Speaker 1: or you'll lose the game directly in front of you.
Speaker 2: But like, what do they do? They do a post
Speaker 2: training sessions with it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is nothing new to anyone who's followed
Speaker 1: league for a long time. With a new South Wales
Speaker 1: cup boys coming and they try and play as the
Speaker 1: wist Tigers give the Warriors something to defend against.
Speaker 2: You're right, And I was like I really wanted to.
Speaker 1: Ask, but how back on it, because you know, I
Speaker 1: had a tough run of us and questions already, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, like, did you blow them out
Speaker 1: like when they were playing like the Tigers, did they
Speaker 1: just shiit the bed the whole time? Ah?
Speaker 3: I reckon, God, that's like you look at imagine being
Speaker 3: uppy cottage seal right. He is the only dude of
Speaker 3: some decency on the side. Even Isaiah Papale who's got
Speaker 3: on there, has just been like just an average back rower.
Speaker 2: Now, I would say that the other the only other.
Speaker 1: You know, blue blood, blue chip player in there is
Speaker 1: Stefano zoy Kamanu, who at the moment is in a
Speaker 1: contract battle.
Speaker 3: That's right, and he's not even playing the great So
Speaker 3: it's like they are in all sorts.
Speaker 1: They are in disarray. I'm trying to talk myself into
Speaker 1: Warriors third and plus, but I just can't get there
Speaker 1: because our back line. I mean I was. I was
Speaker 1: talking to Angree on Readiojodaki today. I said, if this
Speaker 1: is the first time you've turned into the Warriors for
Speaker 1: a few weeks, you may not recognize the back line
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, that's right, Ali Moila, Graham Telfa. And
Speaker 1: then you've got Lekajalasima off the bench as well. Once again,
Speaker 1: only two forwards on the bench.
Speaker 3: Does my head in just Jazz and Jackson Ford Lussex
Speaker 3: in there at hockey We barely used him last week.
Speaker 3: I just don't understand this. Just put some big fellers
Speaker 3: on there. Oh man, the injury awards. Just so, this
Speaker 3: is one thing we have to also keep in mind
Speaker 3: is we have been decimated by Andrey. Yeah yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: the whole season. Yeah, we've just like our combinations are completely.
Speaker 2: Wrecked from it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But to be fair, our run home is decent and
Speaker 3: a little cherry on top round twenty seven.
Speaker 2: But night we got the buy. Yeah, well that's right.
Speaker 2: We may not even win that.
Speaker 1: But do you think that Chandelle Harris Tavita kicks this weekend?
Speaker 2: Yes? You do? Yeah, I agree with you. I think
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 3: He's a footy player, this kid like he's a he's
Speaker 3: a first grade footy player, right. Yeah, he's also a
Speaker 3: really good kicker. There was a stat that Minogue found
Speaker 3: on our show. He was saying that he probably just
Speaker 3: took it from another podcast. I don't know, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know how much he's pouring through the stats of
Speaker 3: the world NRL players. But if the twenty NURL players
Speaker 3: have kicked fifty or more all time only sorry, of
Speaker 3: all the players, only twenty of them have kicked over
Speaker 3: eighty percent, and Chanel Harris Tavita is in that for
Speaker 3: his all time goalkicking.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's still in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after the weekend, it's a tough week to get
Speaker 1: the Harris Davida is a good kicker.
Speaker 2: Take off. Wow, to be fair, after the damage I
Speaker 2: determined the weekend. Yeah, well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And you really copped it on that video that went
Speaker 1: out on ACC's Instagram. It's just great though, because it
Speaker 1: was people looking for someone to blame.
Speaker 2: Absolutely don't want to blame Chanel.
Speaker 3: And this is the great thing about this sew has
Speaker 3: Taveta having an absolute howler is it was so bad
Speaker 3: that everyone's just like, I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's his fault. I need someone else
Speaker 2: to blame.
Speaker 3: And then into me making a lame joke which I
Speaker 3: had like a ninety nine percent I was nine nine
Speaker 3: percent sure he was going to kick the goal, so
Speaker 3: I was like, I can I can get away with this,
Speaker 3: and then he didn't and it was one of the
Speaker 3: worst things I've ever done.
Speaker 2: It was an all time comment out his curse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was really it was the first time
Speaker 3: I've really had like a barrage of hate on all
Speaker 3: these different platforms, but not full hate for anything personal.
Speaker 3: Just like, how dare you screw the Warriors over hate?
Speaker 3: And I'd like to apologize, but to be fair going
Speaker 3: if I.
Speaker 2: Went back and did it again, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: That's every piece of like if you keasy that came through,
Speaker 3: and every joke about wanting to be on a slope
Speaker 3: roof with a gun.
Speaker 1: Shooting me, I just cracked. It's just like, I love
Speaker 1: the Warriors fans, but it's so good, Well, I hate you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he kicks as well. I think Shanell Harris
Speaker 1: Deveta to me seems like when he's at his best,
Speaker 1: he is like a proper game breaker.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know.
Speaker 1: The first you would have heard of him was he
Speaker 1: was the guy who in the I think it was
Speaker 1: the key he's under twenties, under nineteens or something. He
Speaker 1: did the scorpion kicked oh my god, scored a try
Speaker 1: where he dropped the ball behind his back, healed it
Speaker 1: over his head and scored a try in a game
Speaker 1: of consequence. I so forgot about that. He is a
Speaker 1: player that runs off confidence.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Back in his first stint with the Warriors, he's putting
Speaker 1: shots on dudes, comes screaming out of the line and
Speaker 1: killed dudes on defense.
Speaker 3: Who Yeah, I hope he will be kicking. But if
Speaker 3: he's not kicking right, and we have to rule Mitch
Speaker 3: Barnett out because you interviewed him, he got groin surgery right,
Speaker 3: and now he can't kick anymore.
Speaker 1: He said, I got the snipper, Now I can't kick right,
Speaker 1: which I don't know.
Speaker 2: Someone screwed that up at the time.
Speaker 1: I thought it. At the time, I thought it was
Speaker 1: the sick to me. But it's just giving birth to
Speaker 1: a second kit. Well he hasn't you know, he hasn't
Speaker 1: added VI sect me. Is what I'm saying, Who do
Speaker 1: you think is kicking behind?
Speaker 2: I think? Is it not so mighty?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: I assume? So right now? What can't you do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I assume so, But just looking down, I can wait,
Speaker 2: he can kick.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought so. He'd say about four posts
Speaker 1: when he looked up. That's a really good point. I
Speaker 1: feel like Dylan Walker could probably kick as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I Dylan Walker seems like the guy who grabbed the
Speaker 1: tea at the end of practice and just drill them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what don't you do it in the game,
Speaker 2: just missing around?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's who I Yeah, I reckon to Mindy
Speaker 3: Martin or Dylan Walker. And the reason we're even spitballing
Speaker 3: this is because at the weekend we were down to
Speaker 3: our fourth choice kicker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so things happen. Yeah, I come with the man.
Speaker 1: But look long and short of that, looking at those
Speaker 1: two teams as they line up, what do you think
Speaker 1: is going to happen here? How do you think this
Speaker 1: game plays out? Would you like to know who's the
Speaker 1: favorite at the at the tab? Sure, I mean I
Speaker 1: know who it is, but sure it is the Warriors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a dollar twenty six?
Speaker 2: Correct? What are the Tigers playing? Paying three dollars ninety?
Speaker 2: It's good eating?
Speaker 1: No, Look the issue with the lines thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half as well. The issue with that's a tricky line.
Speaker 1: But to be fair, the Warriors could blow that open
Speaker 1: or it could be one of those annoying, really close
Speaker 1: games where it shouldn't be. I feel like the Warrior
Speaker 1: is going to absolutely do a number on the Tigers
Speaker 1: and just reignite everyone's hopes for the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: hopefully start up of a win streak, and if Dyllan
Speaker 1: and Roger don't combine for three or more tries, I
Speaker 1: will eat my hat.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, we might have to look into that for the
Speaker 1: med Monday hunch later on in the podcast. I agree
Speaker 1: with you as well, the dollar eighty eight for them
Speaker 1: to win thirteen plus. I think, yes, we're in a
Speaker 1: tough spot. I think the Tigers are in even worse spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got nothing to play for. And like I was
Speaker 1: saying Angie earlier on today, I was like, look, if
Speaker 1: we can just hunt the Tigers this weekend, then we
Speaker 1: just get a week of being like you know, we
Speaker 1: get a week of everything's right in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then we're going into the yep which which
Speaker 1: will be tough, but I mean, funk, we could win
Speaker 1: two and imagine the fever pitch here in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: If we beat the Tigers, then beat the Eels, It'll
Speaker 1: be do we dare to dream?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: The good thing about the two teams were about to
Speaker 3: play is that both the Wooden spoon contenders. Yeah, whereas
Speaker 3: the Tigers have no issue getting wooden spoon because they're
Speaker 3: used to it. The Eels, however, were in the Grand
Speaker 3: Final two years ago. Yeah, they are playing to not
Speaker 3: get the spoon. We then hit the Dolphins, who are humming.
Speaker 3: We hit the Seagulls, who are humming. We hit the Bulldogs.
Speaker 3: To be fair, Dolphins and Seagulls are sort of humming,
Speaker 3: but they are beatable. Their defense, both those teams, their
Speaker 3: defense is pretty shoddy, but their attack is awesome.
Speaker 2: Shark's beatable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then a buye surely, mate, Like, there's no
Speaker 1: roosters in this run.
Speaker 3: There's no Melbourne, there's no Penrith. Yep, there is nothing like,
Speaker 3: to be honest. What I'm worried the most about is
Speaker 3: the Bulldogs, just because of the defense. But we almost
Speaker 3: beat them the other day, you know that, very very close.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so we should be able to go on it.
Speaker 1: And we've said this so many times. Sit for about
Speaker 1: six weeks now, but we should be able to go
Speaker 1: to a bit of a wind streak here, yeah, and
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Speaker 3: Just had a thought, Yeah, and the hell's justin olum
Speaker 3: and like David Klemmer and all those kind of guys
Speaker 3: at the Tigers have they just completely dropped all their
Speaker 3: old boys now and they're just giving up because that's
Speaker 3: what it seems like.
Speaker 2: Look, a bit of podcast would probably have known that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that.
Speaker 3: Wasn't a question to you without preempting it. It's just
Speaker 3: I thought, I just had I was like, surely they
Speaker 3: have some older players here. What the hell's happened to
Speaker 3: them all. But yeah we should pants them. We better
Speaker 3: we were.
Speaker 1: Pants them all. Right, take quick break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit of super coach. Uh. Look, Chris,
Speaker 1: I don't know who to bring in this week. I
Speaker 1: want to be completely honest with you.
Speaker 2: And you got Cleary. We're getting down to the point
Speaker 2: hered year. So this is the thing.
Speaker 1: The only guaranteed blue chip must buy this week, I
Speaker 1: think is Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 3: That's right. So you and I, I think we both brought
Speaker 3: him in. I was on your couch when I brought
Speaker 3: him in last week. Yeah, so we brought him in
Speaker 3: and it was like, shit, he's coming back from the hammy,
Speaker 3: but he's had extra time off.
Speaker 1: I also had Nico Heines, so I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to have that money sitting on the bench.
Speaker 1: Same here, we did the exact same trade. Heine's out.
Speaker 3: Finally Cleary and that is locked in unless he gets
Speaker 3: in for the rest of the season. The Panthers, I
Speaker 3: think have the easiest or the second easiest run home
Speaker 3: for the rest of the season. Panthers Knights, Warriors and
Speaker 3: like Sharks.
Speaker 1: So the Panthers play the Dragons this weekend. I think
Speaker 1: they might have a buy somewhere, then the Knights, then
Speaker 1: the Eels. They do play the Storm at one point.
Speaker 2: What a great game.
Speaker 1: That's going to be going to be an absolute banger. But
Speaker 1: I think they play every game as well. Yeah they do, ye, So.
Speaker 2: Getting Nathan Clarion is excellent.
Speaker 3: It's a shame Dylan Edwards is out because, to be honest,
Speaker 3: if you don't have turbo and I've actually got a
Speaker 3: note here that says don't bring turbo and oh really
Speaker 3: yeah is it a hot take?
Speaker 1: Oh, just just we'll get to that hot take. Just
Speaker 1: on the Dylan Edwards thing. They tend to cannibalize each
Speaker 1: other's numbers a little bit. That's why Dylan Edwards has
Speaker 1: been the highest scoring player this season because Cleary has
Speaker 1: been out.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and he does more and he was also
Speaker 3: I think the goalkicker. Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: good thing that he's out for Cleary's numbers, but it's
Speaker 1: it's yeah, why don't you want to get turber? He
Speaker 1: has had two massive scores in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I believe he is playing this weekend. Then next week
Speaker 1: they've got to buy. He's playing the Panthers. This weekend,
Speaker 1: he will score fifty and then he has a BUYE
Speaker 1: is why you wouldn't bring him in right the following
Speaker 1: week after that, you look at him, and then I
Speaker 1: think that's when Kaylen pomers because Kaylen Ponger is obviously back.
Speaker 2: He's on the buy this week.
Speaker 3: He's on the buy this week, and then Kaylen Ponger,
Speaker 3: I believe plays. He might be playing our team, but
Speaker 3: the Panthers, as wow, let me just double chairs playing
Speaker 3: the Panthers yet. So you've got this interesting situation where
Speaker 3: two of the best fullbacks that aren't Teddy have got
Speaker 3: Panthers and a bye wait two weeks for both, and
Speaker 3: then just have a geeze at the rest of the
Speaker 3: run home as to which one of those two you want,
Speaker 3: because I think kp is actually going to be like
Speaker 3: six hundred and something thousand, and Tom Turbo is going
Speaker 3: to be so expensive. If you don't have Turbo, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be hard to get him. It's gonna be hard
Speaker 3: to get him. But don't bring him in this week
Speaker 3: because he's playing the Panthers. And then there's a buye. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you have to wait, And I've got Pam who's
Speaker 3: just found out his feet are broken and has to
Speaker 3: have daily injections twenty something needles in the last few days.
Speaker 3: It's just like, I can't wish I knew that news
Speaker 3: before I brought him in. I mean, cry for me,
Speaker 3: but also I've got extremely sorry for him. Just wait
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks and have a geeze because then
Speaker 3: you've got Ponger to look at. He'll be way cheaper
Speaker 3: than Turbo and I will be bringing in Ponger. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and just that Turbo against the Panthers and then a
Speaker 3: break and then who what happens when Cooler comes back?
Speaker 3: It's Cooler going to go back to fullback. And like
Speaker 3: there's just so many question marks. Man, No, I think
Speaker 3: Turbo is back to fullback full time. But that's a gamble, right,
Speaker 3: whereas with Ponger there is no gamble. He is the fullback.
Speaker 3: I guess the gamble is Tyson gamble.
Speaker 1: The Tyson gamble here is And I had this Tyson
Speaker 1: gamble last week was what if pong is a little
Speaker 1: bit flat, his team's not as good, so what if
Speaker 1: he struggles and he did last week, I was gutted.
Speaker 2: I made the call.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going Pongo, I'm not going Turbo
Speaker 1: and scored forty nine points. Did they play Turbo scored
Speaker 1: like fifty something. If I'm scrolling back the Knights they
Speaker 1: took on.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They took on the Broncos and they lost thirty points
Speaker 1: to fourteen.
Speaker 2: That's sorry.
Speaker 3: They had a bit of a shitter, but they're run
Speaker 3: home the Bronco. Other Knights is really good. The Knights play, yeah, Panthers,
Speaker 3: then Tigers, Sharks, Rabbit, Os, Titans, Dolphins, and after their buye,
Speaker 3: which is this week, they don't miss another game for
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. So it's just it's just
Speaker 3: one of those flip of the coin things. Last year,
Speaker 3: Ponger was the best player in Super Coach when he
Speaker 3: was healthy. Two years before that, Tom Turbo was. So
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, don't bring Turbo. And yet wait till
Speaker 3: he's had that buy and played the Panthers, and then have.
Speaker 1: A look at way Out too, and then I think, decide,
Speaker 1: who's your who do you like watching play more?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what I said.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And do you have heaps of Knights in which case,
Speaker 3: maybe don't bring Ponger and maybe go for Turbo and
Speaker 3: vice versa, and also see which one's got the highest ownership,
Speaker 3: because if like, let's say, seventy percent of super coaches
Speaker 3: had Turbo, what's the point in bringing him and you're
Speaker 3: just joining everyone. You may as well take a punt, yeah,
Speaker 3: and bring in the other fellow that, like I may
Speaker 3: be only ten percent of people, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, try and get a word instead of betting for
Speaker 1: a draw exactly the other player that's on my radar,
Speaker 1: and I've tried to shuffle him around, and I think
Speaker 1: it's quite a confusing spot for him as Angus Crichton,
Speaker 1: because if you got rid of him over that origin period,
Speaker 1: you're probably going to want to get him back.
Speaker 3: But there's no shortage of massive second row options. Well,
Speaker 3: that's the thing is. I've looked at mine because I
Speaker 3: was like, shit, I need to get critened back. And
Speaker 3: then I was like, well do I because I've got
Speaker 3: Forefeeda or look and Cator, Well yeah, the big three. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've also got Mitch Barney into my front row, who's
Speaker 3: too second row eligible. Yeah, and kam klum a toungy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See this is the thing that is stacked. So it's
Speaker 1: a massive luxury trade. You would have to have so
Speaker 1: many trades up your sleeve to be able to pull
Speaker 1: that off. I've got six, I've got eight, and even
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: So even I reckon if you've got ten, then maybe
Speaker 3: like downgrade some get some extra cash, bring Criding in
Speaker 3: because he will be mean for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: I think they've got one will buy though, But to
Speaker 3: be honest, if you've got like any of those five
Speaker 3: dudes we just said, there's a couple of other Fellers too,
Speaker 3: then you might not need to.
Speaker 2: It's a very like sideways trade almost. Yeah. I know
Speaker 2: Josh Curn's in my second row thing as well.
Speaker 1: Now that Max King's gone down, But few more minutes
Speaker 1: for him front row.
Speaker 2: You brought him in a while ago. It has paid
Speaker 2: dividends for you.
Speaker 1: And that is Mitch Barnett's now one of the highest
Speaker 1: paid or Jesus most expensive players and super coach, and
Speaker 1: deservedly so, has run and form over the last few games.
Speaker 1: They've just been a ton ton, ton, ton ton. He's
Speaker 1: taken over from Adam Vanola Blake.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Having said that, Adam Fanil Blake's five hundred and something
Speaker 3: at the moment, so you could sneak him back in,
Speaker 3: But then you have to keep in mind Round twenty seven,
Speaker 3: the final round, the Warriors have a buy, so Mitch
Speaker 3: won't be playing and Adam won't be playing, a guy
Speaker 3: I was seriously considering because I've still got tire Or
Speaker 3: May who just seems to hang in there. He's coming
Speaker 3: off the bench this week. He's six hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: nine thousand dollars, which is a shitload. I was thinking
Speaker 3: about paying aass, so was I. But he's just he
Speaker 3: didn't train today, He's got an injury. So it's just
Speaker 3: all these things like that, and it's but also I'm like, shit,
Speaker 3: with six trades left, do I give a shit about
Speaker 3: front row that. I think you save those six trades
Speaker 3: for like gun sine wings, fullbacks, second rowers.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 1: I also think, like each week I treat super coach
Speaker 1: like what is my opportunity, Like what's my advantage this week?
Speaker 1: My advantage of this week is I have a full
Speaker 1: team and I even get to pick between kale Or
Speaker 1: and Burbo off the bench, Like I've got enough players.
Speaker 2: I don't need dudes.
Speaker 1: In My advantage this week is I don't have to trade, bro,
Speaker 1: So if I can sit on those, Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: next week Nathan Cleary does his hemmy again or something like.
Speaker 2: That, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And the other good thing too, is if you can
Speaker 3: go to round twenty because the season finishes, the overall
Speaker 3: season finishes in round twenty seven.
Speaker 2: But I think he had to head leagues finish up
Speaker 2: in round twenty six. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But if you are going over all, which I am,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of trying to do both, Sam, if you
Speaker 3: go into those two last weeks with four trades up
Speaker 3: your sleep so you can make two trades per week,
Speaker 3: there are going to be restings. There are gonna be
Speaker 3: all sorts of shenanigans going on. Yeah, so you kind
Speaker 3: of want four for the last two weeks, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if you think about that and then look at
Speaker 3: your trades and you've got enough players to field a
Speaker 3: healthy decent and you're just sort of netpecking, it's not
Speaker 3: even worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's sort of where I'm at the moment. So
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing anyone in. So hey, neither of I,
Speaker 1: neither of you. I've talked to a couple of people
Speaker 1: around the office. Adam and Joel have both told me
Speaker 1: that they're not bringing anyone in, but they're also playing
Speaker 1: each other in the head to head match up.
Speaker 2: But Adam has got like seventy trades.
Speaker 3: He's going to liven. Yeah, he just doesn't trade, and
Speaker 3: he still I admire him. I think they're both foxing, right.
Speaker 1: I think they don't want to tell anyone yeah, or
Speaker 1: what they're doing, so the other one doesn't find out.
Speaker 2: Who do you captain this weekend?
Speaker 1: Then if you're looking down there, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I'm one of a million people who kept in.
Speaker 2: Teddy last week and he scored thirty three.
Speaker 3: Avoided that just because I was like, oh, everyone's captaining him,
Speaker 3: and then like that's sort of where you can take
Speaker 3: pot shots and try and catch people up. And I
Speaker 3: lost because of it. Yeah, obviously Turbo was the god.
Speaker 3: I captain Garrick, who got eighty. I should have captained Cleary,
Speaker 3: but first came back. I'm gonna learn my lesson and captainhim.
Speaker 3: This week, they're playing the Dragons. Sorry Turbo Cleary Cleary. Yes,
Speaker 3: so Nathan Clary Penrith playing the Dragons on Saturday nights,
Speaker 3: so I think they might be on Sunday, which means
Speaker 3: you've got a free shot at Yeah, so four pm
Speaker 3: Sunday they're playing the Dragons. So vice captaining you could
Speaker 3: to be fair. Yeah, if you've got Art, yes, he'd
Speaker 3: be a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the one I'm going for is and he's got
Speaker 3: a foot with twenty one needles hanging out of it.
Speaker 3: I am going to vice captain Ryan Papenhausen against the
Speaker 3: Eels just because the Stormer in such great form. Surely
Speaker 3: he can limp over for a hat trick against a
Speaker 3: terrible Eels outfit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's the sort of thing where like one percent
Speaker 3: of people might be doing that captain, and so if
Speaker 3: it comes off, it's like a pod.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'm probably gonna be Nathan Cleary for captain. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was undone last week by uh the person I
Speaker 1: was playing in the head to head captain Hammer. Oh.
Speaker 2: I scored one hundred and forty eight points.
Speaker 1: It's such a great game, exactly how many points I
Speaker 1: lost by I am with you as well. I think
Speaker 1: if you've got nothing clearly in your team, put the
Speaker 1: captain on him.
Speaker 3: If you lose, you lose Yeah, put the captain on
Speaker 3: him and then chuck a cheeky vice captain on one
Speaker 3: of your favorite players he's playing earlier, whether it is
Speaker 3: Mitch Barnett or just someone.
Speaker 1: You could feel might have a good game. Ed Blake
Speaker 1: Reeks of two tries this weekend.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, the forward pack is pathetic for the Tigers. I
Speaker 3: love saying all this and then.
Speaker 1: And then we get shirt on probably yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: put it in on the Warriors there, that could be
Speaker 1: a good option.
Speaker 3: Just quickly we mentioned the Dolphins are Hammer. Would you
Speaker 3: be keen to bring him in?
Speaker 1: I did look at it, and basically I can do
Speaker 1: like Vowel Holmes because I feel like the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: come off the boil quite a bit. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: do Vlle Holmes to Hammer.
Speaker 3: I could, can I before you decide the Dolphins, Yeah,
Speaker 3: play the Titans this weekend, Roosters, Warriors, Bulldogs, Melbourne Broncos
Speaker 3: Nights to finish. One of the worst finishes to the
Speaker 3: season is the Dolphins. I've got one of the hardest paths.
Speaker 3: That makes me want to have been a circle bro.
Speaker 2: Same And so here's here's what I'm hiring up for
Speaker 2: next week. All right? Yeah, it Suckle.
Speaker 3: He's playing the Titans this week. Defensive shit, leave him
Speaker 3: in there. Hopefully he scores a double and converts all
Speaker 3: the tries and gets a hundred. Trade has asked down
Speaker 3: to Isaac Tummel. Oh, yeah, he's three hundred and ninety something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was around eight hundred thousand at the start of
Speaker 3: the season because Nathan Cleary was playing with him and
Speaker 3: opening up that right side. Since then, once Nathan Cleary
Speaker 3: went down, his scores went down, the toilet fell off
Speaker 3: the cliff. He's now back and the Panthers have got
Speaker 3: a beautiful run home and he's just like your sixth
Speaker 3: option or whatever, and it frees up three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that similar option, Ronaldo Molly tulleor for
Speaker 1: a very similar reason, down to him. Down to him,
Speaker 1: you're not going to clear up as much cash. No,
Speaker 1: But with Braden Trendle dominating that team, and then the
Speaker 1: one last option that was rattling around in my head
Speaker 1: is the McLean fellow who's on the wing for the
Speaker 1: Panthers at the moment, he is bargain basement. If you
Speaker 1: really need to clear clear up some I've already got
Speaker 1: I've got Jake is a Jacob tongue, Jake tung or
Speaker 1: for the Eels.
Speaker 3: He's bottom dollar, but he sucks, and the Eels suck.
Speaker 3: I wish I had held off and gone for him
Speaker 3: for McLean. Yeah, because he's a genuine Sure, if you've
Speaker 3: got a guy who's worth six hundred thousand, you can
Speaker 3: clear up a whole lot of cash and just absolutely
Speaker 3: bring in a game like Angus Crichton or something. Yeah
Speaker 3: that he looks to have decent like decent jobs. Ish
Speaker 3: he should play at least half of the games moving forward.
Speaker 3: So I think we're in a grants bring clearian. Figure
Speaker 3: out how you can do that with your team. Captain
Speaker 3: him as well, don't ever think it.
Speaker 1: Don't bother with a massive high rolling prop if you
Speaker 1: don't know if one already.
Speaker 2: If you've got a couple of guys punching out fifties,
Speaker 2: just leave them.
Speaker 1: Probably steer clear of the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Steer clear of the Dolphins hardest after this week, Yeah,
Speaker 3: after they play the Titans and.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take one more quick break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to put together today's
Speaker 1: Mad Monday Hunch.
Speaker 2: All right, Chris, you put this one.
Speaker 1: Together last week and you mentioned that you had never
Speaker 1: in your life hit a three league multi before in
Speaker 1: a game.
Speaker 2: Fortunately you were still undone.
Speaker 1: You did hit two leagues, which is the most agonizing
Speaker 1: way to miss one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's classic.
Speaker 3: And the worst part was I put so much research
Speaker 3: into that multi, but the raid has not being able
Speaker 3: to score points in the first half and we always
Speaker 3: come out firing, and then we did that thing where
Speaker 3: we don't come out firing. Yeah, so that was the
Speaker 3: one that led us down was the Warriors to just
Speaker 3: win the first half. I didn't even have her who
Speaker 3: was going to win overall, because I just don't want
Speaker 3: to bet on that anymore. With the Warriors, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: just done with those, not because I don't believe in them,
Speaker 3: because whatever I bet the opposite seems to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the problem of betting on or against
Speaker 1: the Warriors is you're already so emotionally invested.
Speaker 3: That's right, So bet on try scorer is bit on
Speaker 3: fun stuff. Yeah, that's what I like to do. Now,
Speaker 3: So you've seen something before and I've immediately forgotten. Oh,
Speaker 3: Dellan and Roger are combined for three or more?
Speaker 1: Three or more. I don't think you can do three
Speaker 1: or more. Let me, I'm just scrolling through now.
Speaker 2: I don't. Oh, maybe you can't. One two, three.
Speaker 1: Combined tries duos Dellan and Roger two of us as shiit.
Speaker 1: That was paying four dollars fifty not much, but looking
Speaker 1: at that team all right, because they think it's going
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 3: Now, do we multi that up with something else or
Speaker 3: do we just leave it? I think we leave We
Speaker 3: just leave that, right, and we leave it. See, this
Speaker 3: is where they get you. Otherwise it gets too convoluted. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's just leave that because you've now got two
Speaker 3: guys that need to score three tries plus two other things.
Speaker 2: It's just going to be too hard to yeh.
Speaker 3: Whereas what we're what we're betting on now is just
Speaker 3: a bloody exciting game where our experienced backs are going
Speaker 3: to tear through their extremely young and experienced backs.
Speaker 2: Yes, and am placing their bit right now.
Speaker 1: So for those of immutants at home like to follow
Speaker 1: us along, that is dw z or Roger two of
Speaker 1: us as shick to score three plus tries between the
Speaker 1: two of them, and that is four dollars fifty. If
Speaker 1: you want to find that on the TB app go
Speaker 1: down to try score a combo markets. It's actually quite
Speaker 1: a fun way to bet. There's a million different options
Speaker 1: down there. It'll be myself and Hurly tomorrow night commentating
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I was supposed to be maybe up
Speaker 1: and stood down. You've been, stops commentry curs. Oh, of
Speaker 1: course I had been and stood down, but due to
Speaker 1: insufficient numbers, we've been given a grant from the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right to allow me to still play, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Enjoy that, Enjoy the commentary tomorrow live on Skysport nine.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your weekend of rugby league and we will be
Speaker 1: back on Monday for another episode of the Mad Monday Podcast.
Speaker 1: See uh, Australia without Australia without rugby league, He's not Australia.