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Speaker 1: Now Aucklanders have no surprise whatsoever, flat out rejected the

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Speaker 1: Council's idea of trialing fortnightly rubbish pickups and selects suburbs

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Speaker 1: around the city. It was places like the Tatitu Peninsula

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Speaker 1: and Panmure and Clinton Park or whatever, about three different

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Speaker 1: suburbs were going to be subject to this. They've got

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Speaker 1: over five thousand submissions from these suburbs. Seventy eight percent

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Speaker 1: of them said they're against the idea. Justine Habes is

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Speaker 1: the general manager of Waste Solutions at Auckland Council. Hij

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Speaker 1: justin hi there, please tell me you're not going to

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Speaker 1: go ahead with this now.

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Speaker 2: That decision has not been made yet. That is a

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Speaker 2: decision for the Policy, Planning and Development Committee in December.

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Speaker 1: Would you guys do something even though you have opposition

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Speaker 1: at almost eighty percent, would you still go ahead with something?

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Speaker 2: Oh, as I say, that hasn't been decided yet, so

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Speaker 2: elected members will weigh up the consultation feedback alongside other

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Speaker 2: information as part of our advice in December and then

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Speaker 2: all make a decision about.

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Speaker 1: This actually goes to the councilors sitting around the council table,

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Speaker 1: Does it Yes?

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Speaker 2: It does, yes in December.

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Speaker 1: But based on your advice, so our advice.

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Speaker 2: Is being developed for their decision in December.

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Speaker 1: Would your advice ever be to do something that eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of the submissions say they don't want.

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Speaker 2: We are developing that advice at the moment. I think

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Speaker 2: the important thing to recognize is that we've received a

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Speaker 2: great response from Aucklanders who have expressed the reasons for

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Speaker 2: their concern and a trial, and the key thing to

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Speaker 2: consider is whether we are able to mitigate those concerns

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Speaker 2: through the trial design, and whether the trial design will

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Speaker 2: then help elected members have more information on whether we

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Speaker 2: can succeed with Fortnightly in the future.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can I suggest that if you're going to recommend

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Speaker 1: doing this, which sounds very much like you are, that

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Speaker 1: you well, first of all, obviously don't do it, but

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Speaker 1: if you absolutely must do it, that you pay people

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Speaker 1: a little bit more all for it, because twenty eight

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Speaker 1: bucks is not a lot over the space of six months,

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Speaker 1: is it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you for pointing out that is for

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Speaker 2: six months, so obviously the equivalent rates for mission on

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Speaker 2: an annual basis would be higher than that at Stars.

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Speaker 1: Once again, not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is again one of the things that

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Speaker 2: the trial would help us test. So until we move

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Speaker 2: to a position where we understand information, we need to

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Speaker 2: work with assumptions, and our assumptions are at the moment

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Speaker 2: that that's the approximate value of the rates for mission.

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Speaker 2: But the trial would help us understand that further.

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Speaker 1: What is the actual problem that you're trying to fix here.

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Speaker 2: So we currently send one and a half million tons

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Speaker 2: of waste to landfill each year. That's enough to fill

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Speaker 2: ed and park each week. And there's lots of evidence

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Speaker 2: from other councils around New Zealand who've already introduced fortnightly

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Speaker 2: connection collections that it makes a massive difference to the

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Speaker 2: volume of waste to landfill. So that's something that we're

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Speaker 2: seeking to trial through.

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Speaker 1: This because proposal. Honestly, Justine, you can accuse me of

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Speaker 1: being too cynical, and you wouldn't be the first. But

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Speaker 1: I looked at it and thought, nah, this is you

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Speaker 1: people trying to save money here, because then you only

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Speaker 1: have to roll out your trucks every fortnight instead of

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Speaker 1: every week, and that is more likely the real reason.

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Speaker 2: No, So it is about achieving our waste minimization targets

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Speaker 2: for Auckland, and similar initiatives have been introduced by eighteen

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Speaker 2: other councils around New Zealand. This has been part of

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Speaker 2: our waste minimization plan since twenty twelve, so it's been

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Speaker 2: a consistent position for quite a period of time for Auckland.

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Speaker 1: When you saw the feedback come back so overwhelmingly against it,

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Speaker 1: will you gut it?

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Speaker 2: I really really appreciate the feedback of Auckland does and

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Speaker 2: as I say, the nature of the feedback super important

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Speaker 2: in terms of helping us understand what people's concerns are

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Speaker 2: and how we might be able to address those concerns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, were you surprised?

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't surprised because we have consulted on this

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Speaker 2: previously and we do understand the nature of people's concerns.

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Speaker 2: So I suppose in a way the consultation feedback was

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Speaker 2: very consistent with what we've heard previously.

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Speaker 1: Justine, thank you very much. I really appreciated. Justine Habes,

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Speaker 1: the General Manager of Wate Solutions at Auckland Council.

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