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Speaker 1: This Gentleman Being podcast. Hey, that's us, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Hello Fresh the experts and Tastes that kiwis love

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: Time to level up the show with a bit of

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Speaker 2: British class and sophistication, our dear friend Givin Gray.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you guys.

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Speaker 1: How you doing.

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Speaker 2: We've got Megan here as well, given Hivin Yep, yeah.

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Speaker 3: All very good. How are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: We're doing all right? We see King Charles is making

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Speaker 1: his way down this side of the world, bringing his

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Speaker 1: own blood with him and a couple of doctors. You're

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Speaker 1: not coming down this way, Gvin.

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Speaker 3: No, not at the moment, looking to come down soon,

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Speaker 3: but won't quite have the entourage that King Charles have.

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Speaker 3: But suffice to say, I think lots of concern about,

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Speaker 3: you know, breaking his cancer treatment in the middle like this,

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Speaker 3: and that's why I think the medics are being extra

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Speaker 3: careful about what's going on.

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Speaker 2: When you travel, do you travel with your own blood?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: I once? I think I went somewhere in Africa and

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Speaker 3: I was advised to, but no I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Well really is British carry your own bloody out?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you just keep my blood on my body. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you guys, you live it differently over there. Some tragic

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Speaker 2: news also over the last twenty four hours given Liam

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Speaker 2: pain one direction. What is the reaction over there in

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Speaker 2: the UK.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really been one of shock and we've been

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Speaker 3: getting a sort of drip feed all day. The latest

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Speaker 3: that's come out of Argentina and what we now know

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Speaker 3: just in the last of hour or more now is

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Speaker 3: that we are getting some information regarding effectively the moments

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Speaker 3: leading up to his debt. Police have said in Buenos

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Speaker 3: Aires that a preliminary autopsy suggests Liam Payne died from

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Speaker 3: external and internal bleeding injuries. They say he fell from

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Speaker 3: a third floor balcony in Buenos Aires and the room

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Speaker 3: when they went in the room was just apparently completely

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Speaker 3: chaotic muddle. They found a bottle of whiskey, a lighter,

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Speaker 3: a mobile phone, and also a prescription drug called clone

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Speaker 3: nam mazapam. You can get it over the countermedications as well.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it looks like this is a very very

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Speaker 3: sad ending to what had been a man who really

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Speaker 3: struggled to get to grips with the fame that came

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Speaker 3: his way when he was aged. Just sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, still, you know, he was very young, thirty

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Speaker 1: one years old. He's got a seven year old son.

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Speaker 1: Was just such a tragic circumstance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so, and all sorts of messages of

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Speaker 3: support pouring into him. Indeed, the family, his family have

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Speaker 3: just issued a statement now a little earlier our time,

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Speaker 3: saying we're heartbroken. Liam will forever live in our hearts

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Speaker 3: and will remember him for his kind, funny and brave soul.

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Speaker 3: And it just ends with supporting each other the best

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Speaker 3: we can as a family and ours for privacy in

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Speaker 3: space at this awful time. But around the hotel, dozens

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Speaker 3: of camera crews, hundreds of messages of support and camels,

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Speaker 3: people turning up and they've been sort of breaking into

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Speaker 3: songs that he's signed. Plenty of people saying what a

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Speaker 3: difference he made to his life. And I know this

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Speaker 3: can be overplayed, but you know they are often saying

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Speaker 3: what a great person this was, what a great person

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Speaker 3: that was when somebody dies, But he did remain I think,

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Speaker 3: really a genuinely nice person in that. You know. Even

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Speaker 3: his neighbor in Buckinghamshire, to the west of London reported

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Speaker 3: that as a seventeen year old. The neighbors said they

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Speaker 3: were looking after their siblings parents had gone out, and

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Speaker 3: then intruder was spotted at two in the morning and

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Speaker 3: set off one of the sort of censors in the

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Speaker 3: house and they started shouting at the intruder to get

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Speaker 3: out of the garden. They hadn't got into the house,

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Speaker 3: but to get out of the garden. At which point,

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Speaker 3: at two thirty in the morning, Liam Payne, who was

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Speaker 3: the neighbor, just popped a round and said, is everything

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Speaker 3: all right? Do you want me to call the police?

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Speaker 3: And he stayed with them until the police arrived, just

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Speaker 3: trying to calm them down. And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Lots of people said he was just a genuinely nice guy.

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Speaker 2: Have we heard from any of the other one Direction boys.

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Speaker 2: I say that Harry Staal's mom has posted he was

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Speaker 2: just a boy with a heartbreak emoji, and obviously that's

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Speaker 2: quite devastating for them. But I haven't seen any of

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Speaker 2: the other boys yet.

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Speaker 3: No, And Megan, he was in Argentina actually in one

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Speaker 3: of the aries to see Nile Horan and concert and

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Speaker 3: had been pictured with him smiling and joking, looking really

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Speaker 3: happy in the hours beforehand. So most of the tributes

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Speaker 3: have come from different acts, different artists who knew him.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll probably get a sort of one uniform

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Speaker 3: statement from the rest of One Direction, and I think

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Speaker 3: the shock is probably there for all to see on

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Speaker 3: them as well. Somebody that had risen to this level

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Speaker 3: of fame with them, had had one pretty successful solo album,

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Speaker 3: but then the second album. They always say the second

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Speaker 3: one is the most difficult. Down they were supposed to

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Speaker 3: be ready and then it wasn't ready, and then his

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Speaker 3: manage and contract ran out. It'd had some very difficult

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Speaker 3: last few weeks and months.

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Speaker 1: Givin Gray are UK, CoRIS, can I ask just really quickly,

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Speaker 1: He's sixteen years old when he went on Britain's Got Talent.

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Speaker 1: His life just changed overnight getting put together. What would

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Speaker 1: it be like, you know, because you're over there in

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Speaker 1: the UK, they're from the UK. What was the media

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Speaker 1: scrutiny like through the years of One Direction and for

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Speaker 1: him even now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they tried to keep them reasonably sort of

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Speaker 3: safe and secure and away from too much media scrutiny,

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Speaker 3: but of course as they got older and then as

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Speaker 3: the band split up, they were really open to all

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Speaker 3: the media scrutiny that came with it, and Liam Payne

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Speaker 3: really really struggled with that, and there's no doubt that

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Speaker 3: that was something that he absolutely hated. He had a

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Speaker 3: number of high profile relationships and probably that made things

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Speaker 3: slightly worse as well for him. He had dated the

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Speaker 3: Girl's a Loud star Cheryl Cold twenty sixteen and she

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Speaker 3: was actually a judge on the show that he won.

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Speaker 3: They had a bed son called Bert together, as you

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Speaker 3: mentioned now age so seven. He also dated the supermodel

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Speaker 3: Naomi Campbell and a model called Maya Henry, whom he

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Speaker 3: got to engaged in twenty twenty before they called it off.

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Speaker 3: The BBC is reporting that there was a cease and

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Speaker 3: desist letter against him earlier this week from her lawyers.

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Speaker 3: Quote pertains to alleged egregious contact conduct, but we don't

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Speaker 3: know any more about that. She posted on social media

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Speaker 3: accusing him of repeatedly contacting her. Most recently, he was

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Speaker 3: romantically involved in a US influencer called Kate Cassidy. So

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid all this will now be poured over very

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Speaker 3: very closely by the media as that are waiting that

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Speaker 3: initial autopsy and then the post mortem examination is carried out.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, fame it can be a lonely place. That's

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Speaker 2: why I always remain in the sewers of celebrity. Keep

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Speaker 2: things low, that's right. You never want to get two

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Speaker 2: book given Gray as always really do appreciate your time,

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Speaker 2: look after yourself over there in the UK, and you

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Speaker 2: will