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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at b ment or twice god once

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Speaker 1: but maybe called Pete first.

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Speaker 2: Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder News Talk said, b.

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Speaker 3: The house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 3: grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when a

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Speaker 3: dog is too old to barn, and when you're sitting.

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Speaker 4: At the table trying to have to start house scissor home,

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Speaker 4: even when we are being even when you're there alone,

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Speaker 4: the houses along given when nes gone, even.

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Speaker 3: When you go around from the ones you love your most.

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Speaker 2: Scream broken pains, appearing in front of the.

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Speaker 3: Locals vestable when they're going and leaving them.

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Speaker 4: Has even when we'll be ben, even when you're in

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Speaker 4: there alone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, very good morning, and welcome along to the

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Speaker 5: Resident Builder on Sunday. Here we are August the twenty fourth.

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Speaker 5: The days are I'm not quite getting longer. It was

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Speaker 5: cold last night. It was cold in an old house

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Speaker 5: where I've done my best to insulate and all the

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Speaker 5: rest of it. But last night, ah, I was thinking

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Speaker 5: about all of the possibilities of a new build, all

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Speaker 5: of the possibilities of a deep red Trophit if your

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Speaker 5: house was warm, dry, comfortable, and that is what we

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Speaker 5: try and achieve on the show to get you to

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Speaker 5: think about ways to make your house perform better. What

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Speaker 5: things can you make changes to How could you potentially

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Speaker 5: build a new property and allow it to be warm, dry, comfortable,

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Speaker 5: not suck up great amounts of energy at this time

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Speaker 5: of year to keep it warm, to keep whatever precious

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Speaker 5: heat you've generated inside from escaping to the outside. That's

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Speaker 5: what we're ultimately talking about on the show.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning.

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Speaker 5: My name is Pete wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and

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Speaker 5: this is an opportunity to talk all things building and construction.

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Speaker 5: It's the rules, the regulation, it's the materials, the products

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Speaker 5: that you can use. It's the people that you might

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Speaker 5: end up engaging with as well, working with subcontractors and tradees,

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Speaker 5: you know, picking basically, how not to pick a lemon

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Speaker 5: when you pick a trade And I say this respectfully

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Speaker 5: every now and then so often on this program, and

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Speaker 5: sometimes in sort of conversations out of it. I speak

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Speaker 5: with people who you know, opted for a trade to

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Speaker 5: come and do some work on their house and being disappointed.

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Speaker 5: Some people there's just no satisfying, but in other cases

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Speaker 5: you just see cases where people are just actually not

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Speaker 5: that great at their job, So how do you avoid that?

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Speaker 5: And then there's there's the rules, the regulations, there's the products,

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Speaker 5: there's the people, and then there's your own choices about

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Speaker 5: you know, where do you spend your money? If you're

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Speaker 5: doing a renovation, what are you going to focus on?

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Speaker 5: Is it the size of it, is it the performance

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Speaker 5: there a balance of all three? So that's what we're

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Speaker 5: talking about today on the show, as we do every

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Speaker 5: Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: And I welcome you in.

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Speaker 5: Great to have your company, and great to know that

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Speaker 5: you're out there and hopefully not quite as chilly as

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Speaker 5: my place was overnight. Not I mean, look, it's Auckland, right,

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Speaker 5: doesn't get that cold. Before I get text from someone

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Speaker 2: Rest of it.

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Speaker 5: It was just while I was stretched down on the

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Speaker 5: the cold, I thought, gee, I could do more?

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Speaker 2: Will I do more?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 2: We'll see what can you do?

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Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty that's what you can do?

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Speaker 5: You can give me a call, you can also send

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Speaker 5: me a text if you would like. That's nine two

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Speaker 5: nine two is said BZB from your mobile phone, and

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Speaker 5: if you would like to send me an email, it's

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Speaker 5: Pete atnewstalksb dot co dot nz. This today on the show,

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Speaker 5: no particular guests organized, no specific experts that we're going

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Speaker 5: fantastic coverage of the match between Lost Boomers and the

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Speaker 5: All Blacks that will kick off just after nine o'clock,

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Speaker 5: is your opportunity to talk all things building and construction.

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Speaker 5: Just a heads up because I'm doing a bit of planning.

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Speaker 5: So a couple of really big stories that are out

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Speaker 5: change to the building sector, a residential building sector in

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Speaker 5: the last twenty years is what has been long talked

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Speaker 5: And so if you are inevitably going to be responsible

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Speaker 5: if we shift to proportional liability, councils perhaps will maybe

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Speaker 5: we're actually getting the Minister Chris Penk. He'll come back

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Speaker 5: how it might work out. Again, lots of discussion among

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Speaker 2: Wait, hundred in the is.

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Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 5: Give us a call? I shouldn't have opened the door

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Speaker 5: to that text, but of course I did. Someone's complaining

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Speaker 5: Good on you if it works for you, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 5: the break. Lines are free right now. So if you've

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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: eight eight eighty us dogs, that'd be right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, lines are open.

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Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 5: First text in the morning, Morning, Pete, I'm repainting the

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Speaker 5: weatherboards thanks from Nick. Typically it's like there shouldn't be

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Speaker 5: to what you can do today. So someone Simon's text through, Hey, Pete,

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Speaker 5: We borrowed eighty K for new windows like double glazing

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Speaker 5: Basically, it's a an EPs it's an expanded polystyrene that

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Speaker 5: But if you were building new and you did slab

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Speaker 5: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call Andy,

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Peak.

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Speaker 10: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right, Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Doing all right even with the weather in Auckland.

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Speaker 5: Well, look it just last night I sat there on

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Speaker 5: And last night it was cold, right, and I was

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm just saying it's an observation. There you go, right,

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Speaker 5: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Well, the first thing is you just had the conversation

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Speaker 9: Can I borrow the money retrospectively? And they said, no problem,

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Speaker 2: How interesting.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, look, you know this, it's like with

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Speaker 5: And maybe that's a I don't know, thirty thousand dollar exercise,

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Speaker 9: Yes, But the reason I'm ringing's something different is We're

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Speaker 9: So I'm sort of loathed to go, let's dig the

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Speaker 9: and I'm.

435
00:23:46,815 --> 00:23:47,255
Speaker 7: Not going to.

436
00:23:47,535 --> 00:23:50,655
Speaker 9: I'm thinking this is also a professional facts, not me

437
00:23:50,975 --> 00:23:52,055
Speaker 9: trying to do a fix here.

438
00:23:52,815 --> 00:23:53,455
Speaker 7: But I can't.

439
00:23:54,335 --> 00:23:56,335
Speaker 9: From my research, I haven't found anyone that sort of

440
00:23:56,455 --> 00:23:58,855
Speaker 9: specializes in all sorts of fixes.

441
00:23:58,895 --> 00:23:59,295
Speaker 7: They just do.

442
00:24:01,095 --> 00:24:05,415
Speaker 9: Just tanking. And I'm wondering if you knew of somebody

443
00:24:05,775 --> 00:24:09,375
Speaker 9: with your knowledge in Auckland, of someone that would be

444
00:24:09,455 --> 00:24:10,095
Speaker 9: able to come in.

445
00:24:10,175 --> 00:24:14,495
Speaker 2: And say, oh, here's here's a solution, here's.

446
00:24:13,895 --> 00:24:14,855
Speaker 7: The solution you need.

447
00:24:15,215 --> 00:24:17,655
Speaker 9: Thinking won't work injection world.

448
00:24:17,615 --> 00:24:20,775
Speaker 5: Yes, I can do that, yep, yeah, I do have

449
00:24:21,935 --> 00:24:24,855
Speaker 5: it happens. Yeah, I'll give you a number off here

450
00:24:24,975 --> 00:24:26,135
Speaker 5: rather than on are But.

451
00:24:27,655 --> 00:24:30,135
Speaker 2: Because because just a quick question on it.

452
00:24:30,255 --> 00:24:33,655
Speaker 5: So the space where you're seeing the leaks, that's obviously

453
00:24:33,695 --> 00:24:36,415
Speaker 5: a habitable space. It's being painted and that sort of thing,

454
00:24:37,335 --> 00:24:40,255
Speaker 5: because you know, one of the most common fixes for

455
00:24:40,335 --> 00:24:43,415
Speaker 5: this is like a crystalline solution, which is your applied

456
00:24:43,495 --> 00:24:47,015
Speaker 5: on the inside to bear mortar, and that works quite well,

457
00:24:47,135 --> 00:24:49,415
Speaker 5: but you can't paint it and those sorts of things,

458
00:24:49,455 --> 00:24:50,175
Speaker 5: So that's not going to.

459
00:24:50,215 --> 00:24:50,575
Speaker 7: Work for you.

460
00:24:52,015 --> 00:24:54,895
Speaker 9: Having listened to your show previously that you didn't mention,

461
00:24:55,575 --> 00:24:57,095
Speaker 9: did research that, Yeah.

462
00:24:57,015 --> 00:25:01,295
Speaker 5: Okay, because generally that's a very effective solution, but it's

463
00:25:01,455 --> 00:25:04,975
Speaker 5: it's it has some limitations. So yeah, I was talking

464
00:25:05,095 --> 00:25:07,975
Speaker 5: to a building surveyor that I know, so you know,

465
00:25:08,335 --> 00:25:12,095
Speaker 5: proper registered building surveyor who's involved with the company that

466
00:25:12,255 --> 00:25:15,015
Speaker 5: do an injected system, which is what you're talking about,

467
00:25:15,415 --> 00:25:19,495
Speaker 5: where essentially they do injections at maybe one hundred million

468
00:25:19,495 --> 00:25:23,455
Speaker 5: centers across the entire wall and then inject an epoxy

469
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:29,335
Speaker 5: into there that seals all of those areas. So stay

470
00:25:29,335 --> 00:25:31,655
Speaker 5: on the line and I'll give you a number.

471
00:25:32,415 --> 00:25:33,415
Speaker 7: Before you go.

472
00:25:34,335 --> 00:25:37,415
Speaker 9: Because yeah, because the crack is so fine, Yes it

473
00:25:37,575 --> 00:25:39,495
Speaker 9: needs some very liquid.

474
00:25:40,775 --> 00:25:43,695
Speaker 7: Yes, you know it gets through.

475
00:25:43,895 --> 00:25:47,375
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's when I say a POxy, it's like I

476
00:25:47,535 --> 00:25:49,575
Speaker 5: mixed up a two pot of POxy would glue the

477
00:25:49,655 --> 00:25:52,095
Speaker 5: other day to repair something. It's not like that.

478
00:25:52,575 --> 00:25:56,375
Speaker 2: It is specifically designed to design this filter.

479
00:25:56,215 --> 00:26:00,215
Speaker 5: Through those microscopic cracks and seal those cracks on the inside, right,

480
00:26:00,415 --> 00:26:03,655
Speaker 5: seal all of those all of the pores basically in

481
00:26:03,775 --> 00:26:06,975
Speaker 5: the in the masonry. So yeah, happy to pass on

482
00:26:07,495 --> 00:26:09,975
Speaker 5: that number to you. Stay on the line. Thanks very much, Pete,

483
00:26:10,055 --> 00:26:14,295
Speaker 5: my pleasure. Nice to talk with you. Let's take a

484
00:26:14,335 --> 00:26:16,975
Speaker 5: short break and then we'll come back. Now we've suddenly

485
00:26:17,015 --> 00:26:19,375
Speaker 5: got a full boarder court, which is awesome. Oh, eight

486
00:26:19,495 --> 00:26:21,335
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty the number of coll.

487
00:26:21,335 --> 00:26:24,215
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

488
00:26:24,295 --> 00:26:25,815
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall.

489
00:26:25,895 --> 00:26:30,135
Speaker 2: Give Peter wolf Cap a call on eighty the resident

490
00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:31,615
Speaker 2: filder on Youth Dogs' B.

491
00:26:32,175 --> 00:26:35,895
Speaker 5: Here new b coming up twenty one minutes away from seven.

492
00:26:36,055 --> 00:26:39,495
Speaker 2: Really good morning, Renee, Hello, morning morning.

493
00:26:39,655 --> 00:26:40,415
Speaker 5: Are you doing morning, Pete?

494
00:26:40,415 --> 00:26:42,575
Speaker 7: How are you good? Good? Good good? Yeah.

495
00:26:45,055 --> 00:26:47,135
Speaker 11: I'm bringing them regards to your comments that you made

496
00:26:47,175 --> 00:26:49,335
Speaker 11: earlier on in regards to doing the bathroom, Yes, and

497
00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:51,975
Speaker 11: number offend and that now I've got the same issue

498
00:26:52,015 --> 00:26:56,215
Speaker 11: at my place. Our is about so it was maybe

499
00:26:56,255 --> 00:27:01,655
Speaker 11: a late sixties built. We had the bathroom renovator maybe

500
00:27:02,615 --> 00:27:05,455
Speaker 11: I think maybe four years ago we had a shower

501
00:27:05,575 --> 00:27:08,775
Speaker 11: upgraded and they came in and repainted the roof and

502
00:27:09,015 --> 00:27:11,935
Speaker 11: the walls and all that sort of thing. But unfortunately

503
00:27:12,055 --> 00:27:16,175
Speaker 11: that company is not around anymore. Yeah, and the fans

504
00:27:16,215 --> 00:27:19,935
Speaker 11: stopped working maybe a couple of months ago. And yeah,

505
00:27:19,975 --> 00:27:23,775
Speaker 11: and around the fan is black mold and it's starting

506
00:27:23,935 --> 00:27:24,815
Speaker 11: to peel.

507
00:27:25,215 --> 00:27:25,375
Speaker 7: Yep.

508
00:27:25,735 --> 00:27:29,095
Speaker 11: And in the corners where where the wall meets the

509
00:27:29,215 --> 00:27:32,135
Speaker 11: roof in certain areas you can notice some black mold.

510
00:27:32,215 --> 00:27:34,015
Speaker 11: And where the showers we used to have a curtain,

511
00:27:34,095 --> 00:27:36,775
Speaker 11: but they put in a new lining and a glass door,

512
00:27:37,175 --> 00:27:39,495
Speaker 11: and there's a gap in between the glass door at

513
00:27:39,495 --> 00:27:41,375
Speaker 11: the top that can't that the steam and that can

514
00:27:41,455 --> 00:27:44,615
Speaker 11: come out into the bathroom and above and above the

515
00:27:44,695 --> 00:27:46,455
Speaker 11: top of the shower there where it's the white lining

516
00:27:46,575 --> 00:27:48,615
Speaker 11: or whatever that's got black mold and everything we'll try

517
00:27:48,695 --> 00:27:51,495
Speaker 11: cleaning and everything that's not it's hard to get rid of.

518
00:27:52,055 --> 00:27:54,935
Speaker 11: So what I'm asking is is it a job that

519
00:27:55,055 --> 00:27:55,895
Speaker 11: you can do yourself?

520
00:27:56,295 --> 00:27:57,175
Speaker 7: Is it a big job?

521
00:27:57,415 --> 00:28:00,375
Speaker 11: Or what am I looking at sort of money wise,

522
00:28:00,415 --> 00:28:03,255
Speaker 11: if you if you're off the top of your head's

523
00:28:03,335 --> 00:28:04,015
Speaker 11: come in and do that.

524
00:28:04,575 --> 00:28:07,615
Speaker 7: And with the fan. I noticed I heard you say about.

525
00:28:07,415 --> 00:28:12,695
Speaker 11: Your fan, something about the constant. Yes, yeah, yeah, because

526
00:28:12,935 --> 00:28:15,655
Speaker 11: our shower gets like I've got. We're a family of

527
00:28:15,695 --> 00:28:18,455
Speaker 11: five yep, for women and myself, so they like to

528
00:28:18,455 --> 00:28:21,615
Speaker 11: have their showers and at the moment, all we can

529
00:28:21,655 --> 00:28:23,695
Speaker 11: do is open that window after the shower to let

530
00:28:23,775 --> 00:28:26,535
Speaker 11: the airflow and to stop the moisture, to get the

531
00:28:26,575 --> 00:28:28,455
Speaker 11: moisture in that out. But I want to put an

532
00:28:28,855 --> 00:28:32,215
Speaker 11: I was thinking two fans, one above the shower and

533
00:28:32,295 --> 00:28:35,095
Speaker 11: one in the bathroom somewhere, just to just to help

534
00:28:35,135 --> 00:28:37,255
Speaker 11: get rid of that moisture that's building up in there.

535
00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:37,575
Speaker 7: Yep.

536
00:28:39,295 --> 00:28:43,135
Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, So the most challenging part of what

537
00:28:43,215 --> 00:28:47,135
Speaker 5: you're describing is that it takes time to do this well.

538
00:28:47,415 --> 00:28:50,095
Speaker 5: And you're a family of five, and if that's your

539
00:28:50,175 --> 00:28:52,135
Speaker 5: sole bathroom, then that's a real challenge.

540
00:28:52,215 --> 00:28:52,335
Speaker 7: Right.

541
00:28:52,455 --> 00:28:55,055
Speaker 5: So I had a similar thing in another property a

542
00:28:55,055 --> 00:28:58,575
Speaker 5: little while ago, but it was it was in between tenancies,

543
00:28:58,695 --> 00:29:00,895
Speaker 5: so I was able to let the space dry out.

544
00:29:01,335 --> 00:29:05,895
Speaker 5: I went in myself and I used a razine wall

545
00:29:06,015 --> 00:29:08,415
Speaker 5: prep right, which is like a mold killer as well,

546
00:29:08,855 --> 00:29:12,695
Speaker 5: which is quite aggressive because when I got it, you know,

547
00:29:13,015 --> 00:29:15,255
Speaker 5: I'm a bit messy, and so when it dropped onto

548
00:29:15,295 --> 00:29:17,055
Speaker 5: my shirt, it took all the color out of my shirt.

549
00:29:17,095 --> 00:29:20,135
Speaker 5: It's that sort of active product, right, And so I

550
00:29:20,255 --> 00:29:23,575
Speaker 5: went through and I wiped all the ceilings down and

551
00:29:23,655 --> 00:29:25,775
Speaker 5: then I rinsed all of that off. Then I let

552
00:29:25,855 --> 00:29:29,615
Speaker 5: them dry really thoroughly. Then I sand it hard. Then

553
00:29:29,655 --> 00:29:32,415
Speaker 5: I did an oil based pigmented sealer and I let

554
00:29:32,495 --> 00:29:34,775
Speaker 5: that dry for twenty four hours, and then I coated

555
00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:38,695
Speaker 5: it with what they call a rasine velvet paint, which

556
00:29:38,775 --> 00:29:42,335
Speaker 5: is like a water born enamel, so it's really hard wearing.

557
00:29:43,295 --> 00:29:46,375
Speaker 5: And then I upgraded the fan in there. Do you

558
00:29:46,495 --> 00:29:49,495
Speaker 5: have any heating in the bathroom as well, like.

559
00:29:50,535 --> 00:29:53,535
Speaker 7: Tae heat, Well, it's not a fan here.

560
00:29:53,615 --> 00:29:55,815
Speaker 11: It's like your old school element heater.

561
00:29:56,615 --> 00:29:59,895
Speaker 5: Yep, Okay, you pull the cord and it y comes on.

562
00:30:00,095 --> 00:30:05,735
Speaker 5: It's not one of those serene heaters. Just we won't

563
00:30:06,015 --> 00:30:08,335
Speaker 5: mention that later on. But you know, the hard thing

564
00:30:08,495 --> 00:30:10,695
Speaker 5: is like to to really do a good job in

565
00:30:10,815 --> 00:30:13,935
Speaker 5: terms of drying that room out, treating the mold, letting

566
00:30:13,975 --> 00:30:17,895
Speaker 5: that dry, then painting it and then letting the paint

567
00:30:18,135 --> 00:30:22,655
Speaker 5: cure properly. Is you know, it's a minimum of five

568
00:30:22,775 --> 00:30:24,215
Speaker 5: to seven days, right.

569
00:30:24,535 --> 00:30:26,535
Speaker 7: So I was just going to say, it looks like

570
00:30:26,615 --> 00:30:27,335
Speaker 7: it's a week week.

571
00:30:27,415 --> 00:30:28,255
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and.

572
00:30:28,335 --> 00:30:31,895
Speaker 5: That's really realistically for you guys, that's impossible, right unless

573
00:30:31,895 --> 00:30:36,575
Speaker 5: you're away. Yeah, So that that's that's probably your biggest challenge,

574
00:30:36,655 --> 00:30:40,495
Speaker 5: and not following those steps won't get you the same result.

575
00:30:41,375 --> 00:30:45,975
Speaker 5: That's there's no other way of like really properly repairing

576
00:30:46,015 --> 00:30:49,895
Speaker 5: that situation without having that amount of time, in my opinion,

577
00:30:50,055 --> 00:30:51,935
Speaker 5: So the issue.

578
00:30:51,695 --> 00:30:55,295
Speaker 11: There probably Yeah, I work seven days a week, so yeah,

579
00:30:55,375 --> 00:30:57,255
Speaker 11: sounds like it will have to be someone will have

580
00:30:57,335 --> 00:30:58,055
Speaker 11: to come in and do it.

581
00:30:58,215 --> 00:31:03,255
Speaker 5: So and it kind of sounds like, yep, yep.

582
00:31:03,255 --> 00:31:06,255
Speaker 11: Yeah, if I advertise that job, how do I find

583
00:31:06,495 --> 00:31:09,375
Speaker 11: out that the person that's taking that job on is

584
00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:11,295
Speaker 11: qualified to be able to do the work. Because I

585
00:31:11,375 --> 00:31:13,455
Speaker 11: have a feeling that the people that we got in

586
00:31:13,575 --> 00:31:16,975
Speaker 11: to do the work originally when we had the bathroom

587
00:31:17,015 --> 00:31:18,975
Speaker 11: renovated about four or five years ago, I don't think

588
00:31:19,015 --> 00:31:20,895
Speaker 11: they probably did enough work or anything.

589
00:31:20,935 --> 00:31:22,655
Speaker 7: Because that's why I'm feeling the roof.

590
00:31:22,535 --> 00:31:22,815
Speaker 12: And all that.

591
00:31:24,775 --> 00:31:27,895
Speaker 5: In ninety nine percent of the time where you've got

592
00:31:28,855 --> 00:31:31,295
Speaker 5: problems with paint work later on, it's always to do

593
00:31:31,415 --> 00:31:35,535
Speaker 5: with the preparation, right, So that's your biggest challenge. So

594
00:31:35,655 --> 00:31:38,335
Speaker 5: really it's a case of it's not so much a qualification,

595
00:31:38,495 --> 00:31:40,615
Speaker 5: it's an awareness, right, So you've got to work with

596
00:31:40,695 --> 00:31:45,735
Speaker 5: a tradesperson who understands what the problem is and goes, hey, look, realistically, mate,

597
00:31:45,935 --> 00:31:47,615
Speaker 5: I'd love to tell you that my boys will be

598
00:31:47,655 --> 00:31:49,695
Speaker 5: in here tomorrow and will be finished, you know, in

599
00:31:49,735 --> 00:31:51,935
Speaker 5: two days time. Then you know that they don't know

600
00:31:52,015 --> 00:31:54,215
Speaker 5: what they're talking about because you just can't do this

601
00:31:54,415 --> 00:31:57,935
Speaker 5: work in that amount of time. And then with regard

602
00:31:58,015 --> 00:32:00,495
Speaker 5: to the fan, I don't know that necessarily having two

603
00:32:00,615 --> 00:32:04,255
Speaker 5: fans is I can see the logic of saying that

604
00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,655
Speaker 5: will be an advantage, but I think that one fan

605
00:32:06,815 --> 00:32:09,295
Speaker 5: will do it. The other thing with extraction in a

606
00:32:09,375 --> 00:32:12,255
Speaker 5: bathroom is that sometimes what we don't realize is that

607
00:32:12,615 --> 00:32:15,615
Speaker 5: if you're extracting air out, you've also got to allow

608
00:32:15,735 --> 00:32:18,455
Speaker 5: ear to come in. So, for example, if the gap

609
00:32:18,575 --> 00:32:22,535
Speaker 5: underneath the door is too small, it's not allowing sufficient

610
00:32:22,615 --> 00:32:24,935
Speaker 5: ear to come into the bathroom for that amount of

611
00:32:24,975 --> 00:32:27,895
Speaker 5: air to be extracted out. So again, if I would

612
00:32:27,935 --> 00:32:31,015
Speaker 5: say the gap underneath your door should be a minimum

613
00:32:31,095 --> 00:32:34,655
Speaker 5: of let's say ten to even fifteen millimeters, which I

614
00:32:34,735 --> 00:32:36,975
Speaker 5: know seems like a lot, but it will allow that

615
00:32:37,135 --> 00:32:40,015
Speaker 5: ear to come out. And then the advantage that I've

616
00:32:40,095 --> 00:32:44,455
Speaker 5: seen with this constant flow fan is that again typically

617
00:32:44,535 --> 00:32:46,575
Speaker 5: what we do is we jump in the shower, we

618
00:32:46,695 --> 00:32:49,015
Speaker 5: turn the fan on, we finish brushing our teeth, we're

619
00:32:49,015 --> 00:32:51,335
Speaker 5: out the door, we close the door, turn the fan off, right,

620
00:32:51,695 --> 00:32:54,935
Speaker 5: and that moisture stays in there for it forever, right,

621
00:32:55,775 --> 00:32:58,415
Speaker 5: Whereas if the fan is running all of the time,

622
00:32:58,535 --> 00:33:00,495
Speaker 5: so it'll run at a higher rate when there's lots

623
00:33:00,535 --> 00:33:03,015
Speaker 5: of moisture. As it dries out, it'll run to a

624
00:33:03,055 --> 00:33:06,575
Speaker 5: lower rate, but it'll continue. So there's constant airflow through

625
00:33:06,615 --> 00:33:09,135
Speaker 5: that room that will make a big difference as well.

626
00:33:09,575 --> 00:33:13,415
Speaker 5: And a little bit of heating in there from your

627
00:33:13,495 --> 00:33:15,815
Speaker 5: heat to tawel rail that will help just keep that

628
00:33:16,175 --> 00:33:17,495
Speaker 5: moisture at bay as well.

629
00:33:18,615 --> 00:33:20,695
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I've noticed in the winter time as well,

630
00:33:20,775 --> 00:33:24,415
Speaker 11: when if the bathroom doors left shut with the cold outside,

631
00:33:24,495 --> 00:33:25,935
Speaker 11: you make it up in the morning because on the

632
00:33:25,975 --> 00:33:28,135
Speaker 11: first one up there is there's water build up.

633
00:33:28,095 --> 00:33:28,775
Speaker 7: On the window sill.

634
00:33:28,895 --> 00:33:31,655
Speaker 5: Ye little bit connensation from the in station.

635
00:33:31,775 --> 00:33:33,735
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's quite quite a good like a flow

636
00:33:33,815 --> 00:33:36,695
Speaker 7: of water on. I noticed.

637
00:33:36,895 --> 00:33:38,975
Speaker 11: I've said to keep the bathroom door open at night

638
00:33:39,015 --> 00:33:40,855
Speaker 11: because we have the heat pump on at night, obviously,

639
00:33:41,255 --> 00:33:44,455
Speaker 11: keep and that lets the Yeah, that lets the flow

640
00:33:44,535 --> 00:33:44,815
Speaker 11: go through.

641
00:33:44,855 --> 00:33:45,415
Speaker 7: And it's fine.

642
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:47,295
Speaker 11: Do you know off the top of your head what

643
00:33:47,375 --> 00:33:49,455
Speaker 11: i'd roughly be looking at to get the work done.

644
00:33:49,695 --> 00:33:50,535
Speaker 11: Off the top of your head with.

645
00:33:50,815 --> 00:33:56,815
Speaker 5: Mentioned, I mean it's it's going to be two grand

646
00:33:56,935 --> 00:33:59,135
Speaker 5: or something like that. I mean, you know, it's it's like,

647
00:33:59,255 --> 00:34:02,495
Speaker 5: it's not difficult work, it's just it takes time, right,

648
00:34:02,615 --> 00:34:05,295
Speaker 5: and and some things, you know, we love to think

649
00:34:05,375 --> 00:34:08,095
Speaker 5: that everything can be done really quickly, but some things can't.

650
00:34:09,055 --> 00:34:12,175
Speaker 5: So it's getting a contractor who's prepared to come into

651
00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:14,895
Speaker 5: raally thorough job with the cleaning, then come back when

652
00:34:14,935 --> 00:34:18,775
Speaker 5: it's thoroughly dry and send it back and use like

653
00:34:18,855 --> 00:34:21,215
Speaker 5: a pigmented seala which takes a little while to dry,

654
00:34:21,295 --> 00:34:24,735
Speaker 5: and then come back and use the right type of paint.

655
00:34:24,895 --> 00:34:26,855
Speaker 5: So it's not expensive, it's just.

656
00:34:26,935 --> 00:34:30,535
Speaker 7: Time, that's right. Yeah, expect to be a bit more

657
00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:32,775
Speaker 7: of the two, to be honest.

658
00:34:33,415 --> 00:34:34,775
Speaker 2: Yeah, ask around.

659
00:34:35,455 --> 00:34:37,655
Speaker 5: But I think when you're talking with a contractor about

660
00:34:37,695 --> 00:34:40,975
Speaker 5: doing it, you've got to listen to them going oh, hey,

661
00:34:41,055 --> 00:34:42,695
Speaker 5: look this is what I'm going to do. And I

662
00:34:42,775 --> 00:34:45,215
Speaker 5: think as soon as you find someone who goes, yeah,

663
00:34:45,415 --> 00:34:47,975
Speaker 5: I understand what the problem is and this is how

664
00:34:48,015 --> 00:34:50,135
Speaker 5: we're going to solve it, that's great, but ask those

665
00:34:50,215 --> 00:34:55,375
Speaker 5: questions beforehand. Hey, awesome to talk with you, and good

666
00:34:55,415 --> 00:34:57,495
Speaker 5: on you for doing the work that you do. Really

667
00:34:57,575 --> 00:35:01,335
Speaker 5: appreciate it and good luck with that. Andy, good morning

668
00:35:01,415 --> 00:35:01,575
Speaker 5: to you.

669
00:35:02,535 --> 00:35:06,695
Speaker 10: Good morning, morning morning, a long time listener, first time caller.

670
00:35:06,895 --> 00:35:07,855
Speaker 2: Lovely to have you with us.

671
00:35:08,495 --> 00:35:11,055
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's great. Hey, look we're doing We've got the

672
00:35:11,615 --> 00:35:15,975
Speaker 10: we're doing a new build beach house yep. And we're

673
00:35:16,015 --> 00:35:19,815
Speaker 10: going for laminate floor yep. And our builder boys are saying, oh,

674
00:35:19,895 --> 00:35:22,255
Speaker 10: we can put that same laminatee right through even in

675
00:35:22,335 --> 00:35:24,935
Speaker 10: the bathrooms. Now we're looking at here. We've got a

676
00:35:26,735 --> 00:35:31,335
Speaker 10: it's a Godfreyhearst armor and that's the one we like.

677
00:35:32,575 --> 00:35:35,175
Speaker 10: How will this cope with being in laundries and bathrooms?

678
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:40,495
Speaker 5: I mean, the great couple of options. One is like

679
00:35:40,695 --> 00:35:47,055
Speaker 5: I know of systems where it's like it's designed for

680
00:35:47,575 --> 00:35:52,735
Speaker 5: basically wet areas as well and so I've seen engineered floors,

681
00:35:52,815 --> 00:35:58,215
Speaker 5: laminate floors, clip together floors that they specifically designed for that,

682
00:35:58,575 --> 00:36:02,335
Speaker 5: so they'll deal with it. Others won't. So the best

683
00:36:02,375 --> 00:36:04,975
Speaker 5: thing to do, I think is probably if this is

684
00:36:05,015 --> 00:36:09,215
Speaker 5: a product that you like, ring the manufacturer directly and go, hey,

685
00:36:09,295 --> 00:36:10,975
Speaker 5: can I talk to you about what's going to happen

686
00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:14,415
Speaker 5: when it goes into the bathroom and are there some

687
00:36:14,695 --> 00:36:17,375
Speaker 5: specific things that I need to do? So, for example,

688
00:36:17,815 --> 00:36:19,775
Speaker 5: will it be installed over a concrete floor?

689
00:36:20,695 --> 00:36:20,735
Speaker 7: No?

690
00:36:20,935 --> 00:36:21,935
Speaker 10: No, No, It's over a.

691
00:36:22,215 --> 00:36:25,815
Speaker 5: Timber floor elevated yep. And then you know, ask them

692
00:36:25,815 --> 00:36:27,495
Speaker 5: whether or not there's things like do I need to

693
00:36:27,575 --> 00:36:30,255
Speaker 5: seal around the edges or do I need to do

694
00:36:30,375 --> 00:36:34,255
Speaker 5: a waterproof membrane underneath over the top of my substrate?

695
00:36:34,375 --> 00:36:37,935
Speaker 5: So does the timber floor need to be waterproof before

696
00:36:38,055 --> 00:36:41,535
Speaker 5: I install the laminate flooring over the top those things,

697
00:36:41,655 --> 00:36:45,615
Speaker 5: and there will be specific information in the specifications for that,

698
00:36:47,375 --> 00:36:51,535
Speaker 5: and yeah, so yes and not. I was going to

699
00:36:51,535 --> 00:36:53,575
Speaker 5: say in theory, it's not actually in theory. I mean,

700
00:36:53,615 --> 00:36:58,175
Speaker 5: I've seen displays where this laminate flooring, where do I

701
00:36:58,295 --> 00:37:00,535
Speaker 5: see it? Our quick Step, which is another brand right

702
00:37:00,615 --> 00:37:02,175
Speaker 5: that does laminate floora.

703
00:37:01,935 --> 00:37:04,135
Speaker 10: I've got a sample of quick step here, but we're

704
00:37:04,175 --> 00:37:06,095
Speaker 10: not so happy with the color of it here.

705
00:37:06,415 --> 00:37:09,175
Speaker 5: That's fine. All I'm saying is I've been to the

706
00:37:09,615 --> 00:37:11,215
Speaker 5: showroom and all the rest of it, and I've seen

707
00:37:11,695 --> 00:37:14,935
Speaker 5: examples where literally it's kept in water, right, So there

708
00:37:14,975 --> 00:37:18,495
Speaker 5: are systems that we can do that with. So yeah,

709
00:37:18,735 --> 00:37:20,895
Speaker 5: go back to the manufacturer, ask them if it works

710
00:37:20,935 --> 00:37:23,335
Speaker 5: in that space. If it does, get the specifications and

711
00:37:23,495 --> 00:37:26,015
Speaker 5: make sure it's installed as per the specification.

712
00:37:26,975 --> 00:37:31,055
Speaker 10: Okay, all right, that's fine with a new but also

713
00:37:31,175 --> 00:37:33,095
Speaker 10: with a new build that's going to be shut up

714
00:37:33,215 --> 00:37:37,215
Speaker 10: quite a lot of the time. Yes, we're wondering about condensation. Yes,

715
00:37:37,335 --> 00:37:40,895
Speaker 10: good point, it's fully you know, it's a new build

716
00:37:40,935 --> 00:37:42,055
Speaker 10: of double.

717
00:37:44,415 --> 00:37:47,375
Speaker 5: In your planning for the building, have a look at

718
00:37:47,655 --> 00:37:51,655
Speaker 5: some sort of constant extraction, right, and there's there's like

719
00:37:51,895 --> 00:37:56,495
Speaker 5: ventilation systems have Well maybe we've caught up to the

720
00:37:56,535 --> 00:37:59,935
Speaker 5: rest of the world, but there's there's now a tremendous

721
00:37:59,975 --> 00:38:03,495
Speaker 5: amount of work being done around how we should ventil

722
00:38:03,535 --> 00:38:05,655
Speaker 5: out our houses, given that we're moving more and more

723
00:38:05,695 --> 00:38:08,015
Speaker 5: towards bils that are much more air tight than they've

724
00:38:08,055 --> 00:38:11,335
Speaker 5: ever been. And air tightness is a good thing, but

725
00:38:11,615 --> 00:38:13,735
Speaker 5: with air tightness. It's got to go hand in hand

726
00:38:13,815 --> 00:38:18,415
Speaker 5: with ventilation. So there will be some relatively simple systems

727
00:38:18,495 --> 00:38:21,255
Speaker 5: that you could install while you're building the house, so

728
00:38:21,415 --> 00:38:23,935
Speaker 5: not as an add on later on, that will allow

729
00:38:24,055 --> 00:38:28,215
Speaker 5: you to manage moisture inside the building. So spend a

730
00:38:28,255 --> 00:38:28,655
Speaker 5: bit of time.

731
00:38:28,735 --> 00:38:29,135
Speaker 7: Have a look.

732
00:38:29,175 --> 00:38:30,695
Speaker 5: I tell you what, have a look at some of

733
00:38:30,735 --> 00:38:35,215
Speaker 5: the brand's research right around this. They've got some really

734
00:38:35,255 --> 00:38:39,135
Speaker 5: good articles online that will introduce you a brand. So

735
00:38:39,255 --> 00:38:44,575
Speaker 5: the Building Research Authority of New Zealand just go to

736
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:47,695
Speaker 5: brand search ventilation and you'll see. You know, it's like

737
00:38:47,895 --> 00:38:52,455
Speaker 5: introduction to some of this building science. It's worth spending

738
00:38:52,535 --> 00:38:56,095
Speaker 5: the time reading on that, getting yourself up to spec

739
00:38:56,215 --> 00:38:58,495
Speaker 5: and then going okay, that's a system that I'm going

740
00:38:58,535 --> 00:39:01,095
Speaker 5: to install. And I look, if it was me and

741
00:39:01,175 --> 00:39:04,815
Speaker 5: I was building you, I'd definitely put in a mechanical

742
00:39:05,015 --> 00:39:08,095
Speaker 5: ventilation system. And for a house that's going to be

743
00:39:08,175 --> 00:39:11,055
Speaker 5: locked up, you know, I think it's worth spending the

744
00:39:11,215 --> 00:39:13,295
Speaker 5: five to ten grand that it's going to cost you

745
00:39:13,415 --> 00:39:17,495
Speaker 5: to do a decent system. I think that there's tremendous

746
00:39:17,615 --> 00:39:20,335
Speaker 5: value in that. I got to run for a break.

747
00:39:20,375 --> 00:39:22,735
Speaker 5: Good luck with the build, and lovely of you to

748
00:39:22,855 --> 00:39:24,775
Speaker 5: call and let us know how you get on. Oh,

749
00:39:24,855 --> 00:39:27,055
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

750
00:39:27,135 --> 00:39:27,815
Speaker 5: Six fifty one.

751
00:39:28,695 --> 00:39:30,775
Speaker 2: Squeaky door or it squeaky floor.

752
00:39:31,015 --> 00:39:34,295
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peta Wolfcare, the resident builder

753
00:39:34,535 --> 00:39:35,575
Speaker 1: on News Talks B.

754
00:39:37,095 --> 00:39:39,775
Speaker 5: You and News Talk c B. This is I'll take

755
00:39:39,815 --> 00:39:41,975
Speaker 5: a bit of a deep dive into this later on bathroom.

756
00:39:42,055 --> 00:39:44,255
Speaker 5: Never use a fan until you've finish the shower heater

757
00:39:44,415 --> 00:39:46,775
Speaker 5: first till you've finished the shower, then fan for on

758
00:39:46,815 --> 00:39:50,095
Speaker 5: a seven minute time. Never bring cold air to hot water.

759
00:39:52,335 --> 00:39:54,015
Speaker 5: Jim and might could you'd give me a call on that.

760
00:39:55,015 --> 00:39:56,855
Speaker 5: There's obviously a bit of building science in there that

761
00:39:56,935 --> 00:39:59,455
Speaker 5: you want to talk about, right, Oh Stuart, good morning

762
00:39:59,495 --> 00:40:02,855
Speaker 5: to you, sir, Good morning, Good morning peat.

763
00:40:04,095 --> 00:40:07,135
Speaker 6: My question is another one around CONDENSA so little bit

764
00:40:07,215 --> 00:40:14,415
Speaker 6: different pictures at carpet now all of them seem to

765
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:18,495
Speaker 6: have color see or rooms with nothing underneath. And when

766
00:40:18,535 --> 00:40:22,375
Speaker 6: I've done carpets in the past, I've always put building

767
00:40:22,495 --> 00:40:25,615
Speaker 6: paper underneath the roofs AM. I like to have a AM,

768
00:40:25,655 --> 00:40:29,735
Speaker 6: I like to have a problem conversation with these new ones.

769
00:40:29,855 --> 00:40:30,815
Speaker 6: Without anything like.

770
00:40:30,855 --> 00:40:35,455
Speaker 5: That, you will get condensation and you really can't prevent

771
00:40:35,575 --> 00:40:40,455
Speaker 5: it if you've got an iron roof that that's exposed,

772
00:40:40,535 --> 00:40:43,735
Speaker 5: let's say, on the underside and the top side right,

773
00:40:43,735 --> 00:40:45,495
Speaker 5: And that's the nature of a carpet because it's not

774
00:40:45,575 --> 00:40:50,495
Speaker 5: inclosed space. And interestingly enough, typically the approach is you're

775
00:40:50,535 --> 00:40:52,495
Speaker 5: going to get it, so let it just drip right,

776
00:40:53,175 --> 00:40:56,295
Speaker 5: in which case most of the time, when I've seen

777
00:40:56,375 --> 00:41:00,175
Speaker 5: building paper that's been installed under car ports, it tends

778
00:41:00,215 --> 00:41:04,175
Speaker 5: to deteriorate and fall apart. So the standard practices, you

779
00:41:04,335 --> 00:41:06,775
Speaker 5: accept the limitations. You just put up the iron and

780
00:41:07,095 --> 00:41:09,415
Speaker 5: let the condensation do what the condensation is going to do.

781
00:41:10,615 --> 00:41:14,335
Speaker 5: So and that's that's typical practice. I tell you what, Stuart,

782
00:41:14,375 --> 00:41:16,095
Speaker 5: we might have to just pick this up again after

783
00:41:16,175 --> 00:41:18,455
Speaker 5: the news because I've run right into the news break

784
00:41:18,735 --> 00:41:21,015
Speaker 5: at seven. Remember, but we have live coverage here at

785
00:41:21,055 --> 00:41:25,095
Speaker 5: news Talks. Heb of the All Blacks versus Argentina at

786
00:41:25,815 --> 00:41:27,735
Speaker 5: just after nine o'clock. So we're out of here at

787
00:41:27,935 --> 00:41:30,535
Speaker 5: eight forty five today, So in the next hour, get

788
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:32,495
Speaker 5: in quick, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

789
00:41:32,495 --> 00:41:33,815
Speaker 5: you'd like to give us a call right now, we'll

790
00:41:33,855 --> 00:41:35,215
Speaker 5: get things set up. Take care.

791
00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:40,615
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

792
00:41:40,695 --> 00:41:45,815
Speaker 1: fielder with Peter Wolfcat call oh eight eight youth talks right.

793
00:41:45,935 --> 00:41:47,535
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to have a big debate with Jim

794
00:41:47,695 --> 00:41:50,535
Speaker 5: soon about what the proper way of running your fan is.

795
00:41:50,615 --> 00:41:53,055
Speaker 5: But before we do that, sorry, we burst into the

796
00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:56,415
Speaker 5: news with Stuart. So Hey, Stuart, just just a confirmation

797
00:41:56,535 --> 00:41:59,175
Speaker 5: on that if you're going to do so standard practice

798
00:41:59,415 --> 00:42:03,495
Speaker 5: car port, it's exposed underneath. It's obviously exposed on the top.

799
00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:08,655
Speaker 5: Typically we don't put a roofing underlay there because it

800
00:42:08,775 --> 00:42:12,615
Speaker 5: tends to be exposed and it deteriorates. Now, possibly some

801
00:42:12,775 --> 00:42:17,415
Speaker 5: of the new roofing underlays might be more durable, but

802
00:42:17,615 --> 00:42:20,655
Speaker 5: you know, in the old days with the black paper, right,

803
00:42:20,735 --> 00:42:24,175
Speaker 5: which was the standing roofing underlay, that just deteriorates over

804
00:42:24,255 --> 00:42:27,255
Speaker 5: time and then once it gets a rip in it

805
00:42:27,415 --> 00:42:29,615
Speaker 5: or it splits, it's kind of pointless.

806
00:42:32,295 --> 00:42:32,775
Speaker 7: There's not a.

807
00:42:34,295 --> 00:42:37,535
Speaker 6: Insulation you might be able to pop on.

808
00:42:40,015 --> 00:42:41,895
Speaker 5: I don't know that that well, yeah, you can do

809
00:42:41,975 --> 00:42:44,375
Speaker 5: spray phones and that sort of thing, but you know,

810
00:42:44,495 --> 00:42:46,615
Speaker 5: getting it to stick and getting it to well, getting

811
00:42:46,615 --> 00:42:48,415
Speaker 5: it to sticks not a problem, but getting a decent

812
00:42:48,495 --> 00:42:50,895
Speaker 5: finish on it might be a bit odd. There are

813
00:42:51,055 --> 00:42:55,655
Speaker 5: insulated panels that you could use that sort of thing.

814
00:42:56,095 --> 00:42:58,775
Speaker 5: The other one other option is but you would need

815
00:42:58,895 --> 00:43:03,495
Speaker 5: to go specifically to a New Zealand steel product or

816
00:43:03,495 --> 00:43:07,775
Speaker 5: a Blue Scope product, which is color steel with a

817
00:43:08,575 --> 00:43:14,855
Speaker 5: membrane attached to the underside called dry core, and use

818
00:43:14,975 --> 00:43:19,895
Speaker 5: that for your roofing, so that eliminates the need for

819
00:43:20,255 --> 00:43:25,815
Speaker 5: a roofing underlay. And it has proven to be very

820
00:43:26,015 --> 00:43:28,655
Speaker 5: very effective. But if you're buying a kitset, chances are

821
00:43:29,015 --> 00:43:31,735
Speaker 5: it will come with the roofing already attached to it,

822
00:43:31,895 --> 00:43:34,215
Speaker 5: you know, like as part of the kit. But if

823
00:43:34,255 --> 00:43:37,295
Speaker 5: you wanted to just go specifically for one type of iron,

824
00:43:38,135 --> 00:43:39,935
Speaker 5: then you could go for that dry core. I think

825
00:43:39,935 --> 00:43:40,615
Speaker 5: it's called.

826
00:43:42,055 --> 00:43:42,375
Speaker 7: Have a look.

827
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:48,015
Speaker 5: Nice to chat with you, take care bother them. I'll

828
00:43:48,095 --> 00:43:50,255
Speaker 5: just check the terminology on that and have a look.

829
00:43:50,535 --> 00:43:52,575
Speaker 5: So we were talking about fans, and we talk about

830
00:43:52,615 --> 00:43:55,455
Speaker 5: them a lot because ventilation is really really important, and

831
00:43:55,855 --> 00:43:58,735
Speaker 5: a text came through that said, bathroom, never use the

832
00:43:58,815 --> 00:44:01,335
Speaker 5: fan until you've finished with the shower. Put the heater

833
00:44:01,455 --> 00:44:04,055
Speaker 5: on first until you've finished the shower, then the fan

834
00:44:04,175 --> 00:44:07,135
Speaker 5: on with a seven minute timer. Never bring cold air

835
00:44:07,295 --> 00:44:09,815
Speaker 5: to hot water silly, it says Jim, And Jim's on

836
00:44:09,855 --> 00:44:14,015
Speaker 5: the line, good morning, good morning, right, run me through

837
00:44:14,095 --> 00:44:17,655
Speaker 5: the physics of this, right.

838
00:44:17,935 --> 00:44:20,455
Speaker 8: Dealing with a lot of renters and fixing things.

839
00:44:20,695 --> 00:44:20,855
Speaker 7: Yep.

840
00:44:21,415 --> 00:44:24,895
Speaker 8: I ended up saying you shouldn't put a bloody fan

841
00:44:25,015 --> 00:44:31,655
Speaker 8: in the in the bathroom without having some form of heat,

842
00:44:32,415 --> 00:44:36,815
Speaker 8: and landlords, the landlords becoming it's a problem sometimes don't

843
00:44:36,815 --> 00:44:39,495
Speaker 8: want to spend anything, sure, And he says, I know,

844
00:44:39,655 --> 00:44:41,335
Speaker 8: that's that's the way we do it. And I said,

845
00:44:41,375 --> 00:44:44,335
Speaker 8: it's an insult. If it's freezing cold and you turn

846
00:44:44,415 --> 00:44:47,295
Speaker 8: the light on, the fan goes on, it's freezing, it's

847
00:44:47,495 --> 00:44:51,575
Speaker 8: more colder you're coming in. It's just more moisture. If

848
00:44:51,615 --> 00:44:53,455
Speaker 8: you want to fix it, just all you don't do

849
00:44:53,655 --> 00:44:55,455
Speaker 8: is just turn the fan off. And you can't put

850
00:44:55,535 --> 00:44:59,415
Speaker 8: most old wirings. So you put a pool stop switch

851
00:44:59,575 --> 00:45:02,015
Speaker 8: up on the ceiling, but connect to the fan so

852
00:45:02,135 --> 00:45:05,495
Speaker 8: you can put it on and off, and put a

853
00:45:05,575 --> 00:45:09,375
Speaker 8: fan heater at the door, open the door up for

854
00:45:09,455 --> 00:45:13,935
Speaker 8: the fan on heater at the before you have your share,

855
00:45:13,975 --> 00:45:17,095
Speaker 8: and just leave it on and warm the place up,

856
00:45:17,375 --> 00:45:20,015
Speaker 8: and don't turn the fan on until you finish your share.

857
00:45:20,175 --> 00:45:21,295
Speaker 8: There won't be any moisture.

858
00:45:23,215 --> 00:45:25,295
Speaker 5: Okay, look cold air and all.

859
00:45:25,255 --> 00:45:29,855
Speaker 8: The time, all the time, pausing more condensation.

860
00:45:30,495 --> 00:45:34,895
Speaker 5: Presuming that the ceiling when when you say cold, like,

861
00:45:35,095 --> 00:45:39,095
Speaker 5: what would the interior temperature need to be in order

862
00:45:39,255 --> 00:45:40,535
Speaker 5: for that theory to work.

863
00:45:42,615 --> 00:45:46,135
Speaker 8: I've never worried about that any anytimes. Anything good enough.

864
00:45:47,655 --> 00:45:53,095
Speaker 8: It's it's just it condensates. If you pull coldier. And

865
00:45:53,255 --> 00:45:55,535
Speaker 8: if you've got a fanger and you're pulling coldier and

866
00:45:55,615 --> 00:45:58,775
Speaker 8: you're running a share which is hot, you're condensating. You've

867
00:45:58,775 --> 00:46:02,135
Speaker 8: got moisture on your roof, on your ceiling, so you've

868
00:46:02,135 --> 00:46:05,215
Speaker 8: got it dripping after a while, especially if there's more

869
00:46:05,255 --> 00:46:08,295
Speaker 8: than one having a share. So the easiest way is

870
00:46:08,455 --> 00:46:14,295
Speaker 8: just heat it. Okay, put eater outside outside the door

871
00:46:14,335 --> 00:46:15,215
Speaker 8: and bring it in if.

872
00:46:15,135 --> 00:46:15,615
Speaker 7: You need to.

873
00:46:15,775 --> 00:46:18,015
Speaker 8: But you've got to be watching with prepair with water.

874
00:46:18,455 --> 00:46:23,415
Speaker 8: But you need the warmth. There's no moisture, there's no

875
00:46:23,655 --> 00:46:25,975
Speaker 8: condensation that all. If you run a heater all the time,

876
00:46:26,495 --> 00:46:27,495
Speaker 8: just isn't any.

877
00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:32,855
Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by this, but I also realize that for

878
00:46:32,975 --> 00:46:36,815
Speaker 5: some people that this is this is like eye wateringly boring.

879
00:46:37,615 --> 00:46:39,735
Speaker 5: It isn't. I think it's fascinating what I'm going to

880
00:46:39,815 --> 00:46:42,175
Speaker 5: do is I've written some notes. I'm going to take

881
00:46:42,255 --> 00:46:44,415
Speaker 5: your theory and I'm going to go to an expert

882
00:46:45,695 --> 00:46:48,695
Speaker 5: and I'm going to run it past them and I'm

883
00:46:48,735 --> 00:46:51,935
Speaker 5: going to see if there is some validity to it.

884
00:46:52,015 --> 00:46:54,735
Speaker 5: I kind of get where you're coming from, but I'm

885
00:46:54,735 --> 00:46:58,695
Speaker 5: gonna I'm going to get it independently veripified by an

886
00:46:58,735 --> 00:47:00,455
Speaker 5: expert and then I'm going to tell you all about

887
00:47:00,455 --> 00:47:03,175
Speaker 5: it next week. Really appreciate you calling, Jim. I really do.

888
00:47:05,495 --> 00:47:06,575
Speaker 2: It's an interesting theory.

889
00:47:06,655 --> 00:47:09,815
Speaker 5: I think there's some science to it, but I'm going

890
00:47:09,855 --> 00:47:12,495
Speaker 5: to run it past, like literally, an expert who's got

891
00:47:12,615 --> 00:47:16,375
Speaker 5: a degree in this particular area. So thanks again, Jim,

892
00:47:16,455 --> 00:47:19,615
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it. Oh und eighty is the number

893
00:47:19,615 --> 00:47:19,855
Speaker 5: to call.

894
00:47:19,895 --> 00:47:20,175
Speaker 2: Steve.

895
00:47:20,535 --> 00:47:24,975
Speaker 5: Very good morning, Steet.

896
00:47:25,575 --> 00:47:28,455
Speaker 7: He might have been thinking about turning your whole bar

897
00:47:28,615 --> 00:47:31,495
Speaker 7: for him into a giant shower dome in a way,

898
00:47:32,535 --> 00:47:37,495
Speaker 7: but I can't see the practicalities of it, because if

899
00:47:37,535 --> 00:47:40,055
Speaker 7: you've got a good fan over the top of your shower,

900
00:47:40,415 --> 00:47:42,935
Speaker 7: that's going to get rid of that that that that

901
00:47:44,015 --> 00:47:45,975
Speaker 7: you know, condensation, well it's not going to have a

902
00:47:46,095 --> 00:47:47,575
Speaker 7: chance of that. You're not going to get the build

903
00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:50,935
Speaker 7: up on the selling and with the heat that people

904
00:47:51,095 --> 00:47:53,535
Speaker 7: run their showers of hot water, Yep, I think you

905
00:47:53,695 --> 00:47:57,215
Speaker 7: have to heat up that room a lot for the

906
00:47:57,335 --> 00:48:03,815
Speaker 7: gates that you know. That conversation. Yeah, I'm not sure

907
00:48:03,815 --> 00:48:04,375
Speaker 7: about that one.

908
00:48:04,735 --> 00:48:07,895
Speaker 5: And that's why I asked, you know, what's the exterior temperature?

909
00:48:07,895 --> 00:48:10,975
Speaker 5: And by that, I mean what's let's say, you know,

910
00:48:11,095 --> 00:48:14,255
Speaker 5: most of us have got the bathroom off the hallway.

911
00:48:14,335 --> 00:48:17,095
Speaker 5: Let's say, right, so what's the temperature in the hallway

912
00:48:18,215 --> 00:48:20,135
Speaker 5: and what does it need to be in order for

913
00:48:20,255 --> 00:48:23,495
Speaker 5: this theory to work? And again, you know, obviously we

914
00:48:23,775 --> 00:48:26,455
Speaker 5: all think about our own places, and so in my head,

915
00:48:26,575 --> 00:48:29,975
Speaker 5: I've got the hallway, I've got our bathroom next to it.

916
00:48:30,895 --> 00:48:33,255
Speaker 5: I know, because I've got a thermostat in the hallway,

917
00:48:34,135 --> 00:48:35,695
Speaker 5: what the hallway temperature is?

918
00:48:37,295 --> 00:48:39,095
Speaker 7: And what about heat of the hot water?

919
00:48:41,375 --> 00:48:44,135
Speaker 5: Well, look, I love a hot shower and I like

920
00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:49,415
Speaker 5: a long hot shower. So mine's basically going to be

921
00:48:49,535 --> 00:48:51,935
Speaker 5: it's going to come out at you know, forty eight

922
00:48:51,975 --> 00:48:54,615
Speaker 5: to fifty degrees. I'm thinking maybe maybe a little bit

923
00:48:54,655 --> 00:48:55,055
Speaker 5: less than that.

924
00:48:55,255 --> 00:48:59,215
Speaker 7: But yeah, I'm not not completely sure on that one.

925
00:48:59,575 --> 00:49:03,415
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got someone in mine I'm going to I'm

926
00:49:03,415 --> 00:49:04,895
Speaker 5: going to wring them on Monday. I'm going to go

927
00:49:05,095 --> 00:49:07,935
Speaker 5: right tell me if this theory works anyway, How can

928
00:49:07,975 --> 00:49:09,255
Speaker 5: I help with your question?

929
00:49:10,335 --> 00:49:13,135
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just thought cool just to talk about the

930
00:49:13,215 --> 00:49:16,415
Speaker 7: laminate flooring in the bathroom Simon art sexual designer, and

931
00:49:16,495 --> 00:49:18,615
Speaker 7: I thought, yeah, just put in my two cents worth.

932
00:49:18,935 --> 00:49:21,615
Speaker 7: You might know Pete. A few years ago there's a

933
00:49:21,695 --> 00:49:26,255
Speaker 7: change of the Building Code E three and they decided

934
00:49:26,335 --> 00:49:29,535
Speaker 7: that laminate floorings weren't allowed in bathrooms. It's going to

935
00:49:29,575 --> 00:49:34,455
Speaker 7: be an well became an alternative solution. So the only

936
00:49:34,535 --> 00:49:37,255
Speaker 7: acceptable solution under the Building Code at the moment for

937
00:49:37,335 --> 00:49:42,175
Speaker 7: bathrooms wet areas pretty much vinyl and tiles. And when

938
00:49:42,215 --> 00:49:46,215
Speaker 7: you go to these laminate floors, they've actually included now kitchens.

939
00:49:46,215 --> 00:49:48,935
Speaker 7: A lot of people don't realize as the wet area

940
00:49:48,975 --> 00:49:53,415
Speaker 7: and nightmare. It's crazy. And I'll tell you what the

941
00:49:53,495 --> 00:49:56,295
Speaker 7: problem is in a way that the laminate floors are

942
00:49:56,295 --> 00:49:58,415
Speaker 7: going to be really careful. So a lot of the

943
00:49:59,455 --> 00:50:02,935
Speaker 7: reputable flooring companies don't advise putting it in bathrooms. It

944
00:50:03,015 --> 00:50:06,615
Speaker 7: can be more of a headache. And look, I've running

945
00:50:06,615 --> 00:50:10,495
Speaker 7: issues of laminate floors and bathrooms. Look, you could do

946
00:50:10,615 --> 00:50:12,775
Speaker 7: your best to try and waterproof them, you know, by

947
00:50:12,855 --> 00:50:15,775
Speaker 7: putting PVA glue down the seams and ceiling off around

948
00:50:15,775 --> 00:50:18,135
Speaker 7: the edges and all the rest of it, but you can't.

949
00:50:18,335 --> 00:50:21,415
Speaker 7: They don't work well over a because they're floating, right.

950
00:50:21,855 --> 00:50:24,015
Speaker 7: They don't work well over the top of a waterproof

951
00:50:24,095 --> 00:50:27,135
Speaker 7: membrane because what can happen is if I don't know,

952
00:50:27,135 --> 00:50:29,975
Speaker 7: if you ever noticed that if any water moisture, anything

953
00:50:30,055 --> 00:50:34,175
Speaker 7: gets underneath in between the bottom of the laminate flooring

954
00:50:34,255 --> 00:50:37,095
Speaker 7: the top of the waterproof membrane, it'll stay there. It'll

955
00:50:37,295 --> 00:50:41,655
Speaker 7: just it'll spink you. It can create all sorts of problems,

956
00:50:42,735 --> 00:50:46,975
Speaker 7: especially in bathrooms and toilets, you know, for obvious reasons.

957
00:50:47,175 --> 00:50:49,335
Speaker 7: You know, you've got kids and they miss the toilet

958
00:50:49,375 --> 00:50:52,375
Speaker 7: completely and it gets underneath and I can can stincter,

959
00:50:52,815 --> 00:50:54,255
Speaker 7: you know, and you'll never get rid of it. You

960
00:50:54,375 --> 00:50:58,975
Speaker 7: have to rip it all up. So, yeah, they're pretty problematic.

961
00:50:59,055 --> 00:51:00,935
Speaker 7: And you can imagine you step out of a shower.

962
00:51:01,095 --> 00:51:03,935
Speaker 7: People are soaking wet a lot of the time. There's

963
00:51:04,015 --> 00:51:07,895
Speaker 7: no tail, they're no match, and the water just seats

964
00:51:07,935 --> 00:51:10,175
Speaker 7: on that floor and you can see how it can

965
00:51:10,255 --> 00:51:13,375
Speaker 7: get down into the scenes, can't you over time, do

966
00:51:13,975 --> 00:51:17,215
Speaker 7: you sort of agree that you've probably seen people going

967
00:51:17,295 --> 00:51:19,495
Speaker 7: away because of the changes in the building code, going

968
00:51:19,495 --> 00:51:20,975
Speaker 7: away from lemonade floors.

969
00:51:20,695 --> 00:51:20,775
Speaker 6: And.

970
00:51:22,615 --> 00:51:26,935
Speaker 5: I mean, I think like typically for I mean, look,

971
00:51:26,935 --> 00:51:30,095
Speaker 5: there's still plenty of if we're going really old school, right,

972
00:51:30,135 --> 00:51:32,855
Speaker 5: if you're in an old cary villa or a bungalow

973
00:51:32,895 --> 00:51:34,975
Speaker 5: and that sort of thing, and you've got really nice

974
00:51:35,055 --> 00:51:37,615
Speaker 5: timber floors and you want to keep that in the bathroom,

975
00:51:38,135 --> 00:51:41,135
Speaker 5: then I mean you can get compliance with I think

976
00:51:41,135 --> 00:51:45,055
Speaker 5: it's three coats of polyurethane, right, Is it going to

977
00:51:45,095 --> 00:51:48,055
Speaker 5: be as durable as a waterproof surface with tiles over

978
00:51:48,135 --> 00:51:50,255
Speaker 5: the top of the POxy group? No, it's it's not,

979
00:51:50,495 --> 00:51:54,935
Speaker 5: but it's it should be generally Okay, adding a laminate

980
00:51:55,015 --> 00:51:58,135
Speaker 5: floor into a bathroom? Are there some risks here? There are?

981
00:51:58,655 --> 00:52:02,775
Speaker 5: Can you get compliance? Or obviously you can through the acceptable.

982
00:52:02,295 --> 00:52:06,455
Speaker 7: Solutions alternative solutions.

983
00:52:06,375 --> 00:52:09,135
Speaker 5: Terms of solutions rather, Yeah, yeah.

984
00:52:08,935 --> 00:52:12,415
Speaker 7: It can be problematic. What people The problem is a

985
00:52:12,415 --> 00:52:15,135
Speaker 7: lot of people treat the flooring, even laminate floors, like

986
00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:17,975
Speaker 7: their carpet, don't they They don't really think about the

987
00:52:18,055 --> 00:52:19,815
Speaker 7: compliance side. I think a lot of the time I've

988
00:52:19,815 --> 00:52:22,495
Speaker 7: had clients that they'll go out and buy their flooring

989
00:52:22,575 --> 00:52:25,175
Speaker 7: from Bunnings somewhere, and they won't realize that it has

990
00:52:25,255 --> 00:52:28,615
Speaker 7: to be an alternative solution and have all the documentations

991
00:52:28,695 --> 00:52:31,695
Speaker 7: to prove it's waterproof. And then they put it down.

992
00:52:31,775 --> 00:52:33,935
Speaker 7: The council comes along and they see that they've used

993
00:52:33,975 --> 00:52:35,975
Speaker 7: a different one with the one that's been specified on

994
00:52:36,055 --> 00:52:38,335
Speaker 7: the plans, and it's a bit of a nightmare. And

995
00:52:38,495 --> 00:52:42,255
Speaker 7: people have even tried to circumnavigate by by putting down vinyl,

996
00:52:42,735 --> 00:52:44,575
Speaker 7: get the sign off from council.

997
00:52:44,335 --> 00:52:45,735
Speaker 5: And then putting something over the top.

998
00:52:45,855 --> 00:52:49,695
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, so it sort of promotes though rule breaking,

999
00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:53,295
Speaker 7: doesn't It so became overly onerous. And this is what

1000
00:52:53,695 --> 00:52:54,375
Speaker 7: where we're at now.

1001
00:52:54,935 --> 00:52:57,015
Speaker 5: Where I encountered it doing sign off in a couple

1002
00:52:57,055 --> 00:52:59,775
Speaker 5: of buildings is a concrete slab, right, So kitchen on

1003
00:52:59,815 --> 00:53:04,015
Speaker 5: a concrete slab and then not being able to use

1004
00:53:04,175 --> 00:53:07,015
Speaker 5: laminates within a certain distance and kind of go okay.

1005
00:53:07,095 --> 00:53:10,015
Speaker 5: So if the intent of the legislation is to protect

1006
00:53:10,055 --> 00:53:13,895
Speaker 5: from damage, you know, which is reasonable. But it's a

1007
00:53:13,935 --> 00:53:16,335
Speaker 5: concrete floor, right, So if the dishwasher leaks over a

1008
00:53:16,375 --> 00:53:18,895
Speaker 5: period of time, what's the worst thing that's going to happen?

1009
00:53:18,975 --> 00:53:20,055
Speaker 2: The concrete floor is going to.

1010
00:53:20,055 --> 00:53:22,375
Speaker 5: Get a bit wet, right, you know, so what are

1011
00:53:22,415 --> 00:53:23,775
Speaker 5: we actually trying to protect here?

1012
00:53:23,975 --> 00:53:29,775
Speaker 7: But you're yeah, concrete floors are generally not not not

1013
00:53:29,895 --> 00:53:35,975
Speaker 7: an issue. If you're you're on great, But if you're the.

1014
00:53:36,055 --> 00:53:38,895
Speaker 5: Regulation is still applied. Right, So the regulations didn't allow

1015
00:53:38,975 --> 00:53:41,415
Speaker 5: for the fact there's concrete floor. You still have this

1016
00:53:41,495 --> 00:53:44,335
Speaker 5: whole thing around waterproofing and protection from moisture and all

1017
00:53:44,335 --> 00:53:44,695
Speaker 5: the rest of it.

1018
00:53:44,775 --> 00:53:47,935
Speaker 7: You can kind of go, you do and and and

1019
00:53:48,655 --> 00:53:52,535
Speaker 7: it doesn't cover failures in your appliances. It's more to do.

1020
00:53:52,735 --> 00:53:55,855
Speaker 7: But you know, things like your kitchen sink over flowing

1021
00:53:56,735 --> 00:54:00,455
Speaker 7: and water splash, which there's minimal in a kitchen anywhere,

1022
00:54:00,615 --> 00:54:04,015
Speaker 7: so it never should have been broad in the kitchens, Yeah.

1023
00:54:03,815 --> 00:54:07,015
Speaker 5: That's right, and things like laundries, you know where suddenly

1024
00:54:07,015 --> 00:54:09,295
Speaker 5: it was one point five meters out from the water

1025
00:54:09,415 --> 00:54:13,215
Speaker 5: source and the laundry, which yeah, again caused me all

1026
00:54:13,255 --> 00:54:13,735
Speaker 5: the headaches.

1027
00:54:14,055 --> 00:54:17,735
Speaker 7: Not to worry that one thing quickly, one thing you

1028
00:54:17,815 --> 00:54:21,575
Speaker 7: get who brings who brings in these bloody rules? Are

1029
00:54:21,575 --> 00:54:25,135
Speaker 7: you able to get the person and find that person?

1030
00:54:25,535 --> 00:54:28,295
Speaker 7: And can we have a conversation, Pete, because honestly, where

1031
00:54:28,335 --> 00:54:29,935
Speaker 7: do they come from. They're ridiculous.

1032
00:54:30,095 --> 00:54:34,335
Speaker 5: No, Inevitably it won't be one person, right. I suspect

1033
00:54:34,375 --> 00:54:38,055
Speaker 5: that what, well, what it is is it all goes

1034
00:54:38,135 --> 00:54:41,695
Speaker 5: to No, it all goes to mby, right, and then

1035
00:54:41,815 --> 00:54:46,975
Speaker 5: within mby there are those that create the legislation generally

1036
00:54:47,055 --> 00:54:50,895
Speaker 5: by committee and all the rest of it. And I

1037
00:54:51,375 --> 00:54:54,735
Speaker 5: suspect that lots of people within sort of the building

1038
00:54:54,855 --> 00:54:58,535
Speaker 5: sector look at that every now and then and go

1039
00:54:58,735 --> 00:55:01,055
Speaker 5: what the hell were they thinking? I still can't believe

1040
00:55:01,175 --> 00:55:04,495
Speaker 5: that when they introduced the changes to H one with

1041
00:55:04,575 --> 00:55:07,015
Speaker 5: the schedule method, that they went for a flat R

1042
00:55:07,095 --> 00:55:09,255
Speaker 5: six point six right on the schedule method.

1043
00:55:10,335 --> 00:55:12,135
Speaker 2: Crazy, didn't make any sense.

1044
00:55:12,335 --> 00:55:17,135
Speaker 5: Then thank goodness they've ditched it now. But again hard

1045
00:55:17,255 --> 00:55:23,495
Speaker 5: to be hard to go back. Oh mate, absolutely, who's responsible?

1046
00:55:23,535 --> 00:55:24,335
Speaker 7: Are they going to keep there?

1047
00:55:24,415 --> 00:55:27,855
Speaker 2: No, there's no responsibility, not not crazy.

1048
00:55:28,575 --> 00:55:31,855
Speaker 7: There's no accountability, is there. It's like, oh, well, you know, yeah, we.

1049
00:55:31,935 --> 00:55:35,855
Speaker 5: Introduced it, crack out, it didn't work. Everybody told us

1050
00:55:35,855 --> 00:55:38,415
Speaker 5: it wasn't going to job, and now it didn't work,

1051
00:55:38,695 --> 00:55:40,455
Speaker 5: and now you guys can sort it out.

1052
00:55:40,535 --> 00:55:42,055
Speaker 2: I mean, they need to know more.

1053
00:55:42,095 --> 00:55:43,575
Speaker 7: Cowboys website to lead.

1054
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:48,575
Speaker 8: Yea saying that you know.

1055
00:55:48,815 --> 00:55:51,535
Speaker 5: It's also not fair to sort of dump on them

1056
00:55:51,575 --> 00:55:53,415
Speaker 5: in the sense that I was at a seminar recently

1057
00:55:53,495 --> 00:55:55,415
Speaker 5: with a couple of people who were presenting, and they

1058
00:55:55,455 --> 00:55:58,255
Speaker 5: were from himbe talking about updates the building co. You know,

1059
00:55:58,375 --> 00:56:02,095
Speaker 5: they're super well informed and so on.

1060
00:56:02,535 --> 00:56:03,215
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1061
00:56:03,295 --> 00:56:04,535
Speaker 5: Every now and then. I think when you get a

1062
00:56:04,535 --> 00:56:06,855
Speaker 5: group of people together, you just in it with a decision,

1063
00:56:07,135 --> 00:56:10,775
Speaker 5: and that six point six was a bad decision. Oh

1064
00:56:10,815 --> 00:56:12,775
Speaker 5: eight hundred, thanks Steve. Always good to talk with you.

1065
00:56:12,855 --> 00:56:15,775
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty, ten eighty. We're talking all things

1066
00:56:15,855 --> 00:56:18,175
Speaker 5: building and construction. If you'd like to join us, and

1067
00:56:18,255 --> 00:56:20,535
Speaker 5: I'd love it if you did. The lines are open.

1068
00:56:20,575 --> 00:56:23,015
Speaker 5: The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty Beck with

1069
00:56:23,175 --> 00:56:24,295
Speaker 5: Jan after the break.

1070
00:56:24,655 --> 00:56:28,055
Speaker 1: Mat or twice God once, but maybe call Pete first,

1071
00:56:28,175 --> 00:56:31,175
Speaker 1: be your all keV the Resident Builder news Talks, they'd be.

1072
00:56:32,375 --> 00:56:34,855
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1073
00:56:34,975 --> 00:56:37,655
Speaker 5: Remember we've got live coverage of the All Blacks versus

1074
00:56:37,775 --> 00:56:42,855
Speaker 5: a lost Womas in buens Aires that's on later on today,

1075
00:56:42,975 --> 00:56:46,975
Speaker 5: kickoff just after nine o'clock. Coverage starts from eight forty five,

1076
00:56:47,135 --> 00:56:50,815
Speaker 5: So Rude will be here just a little bit earlier today, Jane,

1077
00:56:50,855 --> 00:56:51,455
Speaker 5: A very good.

1078
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Speaker 12: Morning to you, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 8: Also than thank you.

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Speaker 13: Right now we're looking at buying approximately eighteen year old house.

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Speaker 13: Yes it's got a double glazing in it, but it's

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Speaker 13: got the brick read alumini. I know, we don't and yeah,

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Speaker 13: you know the look of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, and look with a gross respect to you know,

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00:57:20,495 --> 00:57:23,655
Speaker 5: people like to express themselves and you know, maybe there

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00:57:23,775 --> 00:57:26,735
Speaker 5: was a delightful architectural feature about it at the time.

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Speaker 5: But I can understand too that you'd look at it

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Speaker 5: and go, I love the house. I'm just not sure

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Speaker 5: that I can live with the joinery color exactly exactly.

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Speaker 13: So I've looked up a few companies and everything like that.

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Speaker 13: Have you had any experience in recoloring them? Does it work?

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Speaker 13: Does it you know? How long for guarantee or how

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00:57:49,815 --> 00:57:52,095
Speaker 13: much does it cost to replace the joinery?

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Speaker 5: I'll look replacing it, well, theoretically there'd be a small thing.

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00:57:58,615 --> 00:58:00,815
Speaker 5: It would be a tremendous job to replace it. Right,

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Speaker 5: there would be some benefits because chances are the aluminium

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Speaker 5: jowinery is standard eliminium joy so we have issues with

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Speaker 5: thermal break and the performance and all the rest of it.

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00:58:11,415 --> 00:58:15,775
Speaker 5: But in terms of recoloring and doing it well and

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Speaker 5: doing it so that it's going to last. Basically, I

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Speaker 5: would just get in touch with Nanoclear, so in a

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Speaker 5: in O clear Nanoclear, talk to Daniel, get them to

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Speaker 5: come out and they're around the country. He can help

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Speaker 5: you out. And I've i mention it because it's it's

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00:58:38,135 --> 00:58:40,295
Speaker 5: basically the only company that I've been to where I've

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Speaker 5: seen what they do in terms of the prep, understand

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Speaker 5: a little bit about the products that they use and

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00:58:45,015 --> 00:58:49,015
Speaker 5: the warranties and guarantees that they offer. So yeah, if

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Speaker 5: you're going to do it, have a look at Nanoclear, okay.

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Speaker 13: And they do the inside as well as the outside.

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Speaker 5: They can do the inside as well. So pull the

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00:58:57,335 --> 00:59:00,855
Speaker 5: glass out, take all the beads out, prep the frames properly,

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00:59:01,135 --> 00:59:04,215
Speaker 5: paint inside and outside, coat it with a Nano clear.

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00:59:05,055 --> 00:59:07,575
Speaker 5: If the rubbers are starting to deteriorate a little bit,

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00:59:07,615 --> 00:59:10,255
Speaker 5: they can upgrade the rubbers, check all the hardware, put

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00:59:10,295 --> 00:59:15,335
Speaker 5: the double glazing back in and it'll be quite the transformation.

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Speaker 13: Oh okay, then all right, Oh thank you so much.

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00:59:20,935 --> 00:59:22,175
Speaker 5: Alrighty, good luck with that.

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Speaker 7: Take care.

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Speaker 5: I was watching one of the Grand Designs transformations the

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Speaker 5: other day. It was the Australian series, and they had

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Speaker 5: like a nineteen fifties house which was a real classic,

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Speaker 5: you know, early modernist, fantastic architecture, and they had they

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Speaker 5: picked out the window frames like in blue and different colors.

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Speaker 5: I quite liked it as an example of that time

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Speaker 5: and so on. Would you do it today? Maybe not,

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00:59:54,735 --> 00:59:59,415
Speaker 5: but it looked quite funky. Actually, oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 5: ten eighty is that number to call? Oh, I'm wondering

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Speaker 5: whether we should get Storm back on the show. So Stormharton,

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Speaker 5: who is a basically ventilation expert, she was on the

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Speaker 5: show a little while ago. I think I'm going to

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Speaker 5: have to get her back because we've had so many

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Speaker 5: texts about the sort of the standard sop right, standard

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Speaker 5: operating procedure for working your bathroom. Do you turn the

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Speaker 5: fan on as soon as you go into the bathroom?

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Speaker 5: Do you leave the fan off until you've finished the shower?

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Speaker 5: This part of me where that doesn't make sense, like

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01:00:37,215 --> 01:00:40,175
Speaker 5: why allow all that moisture to collect and then try

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Speaker 5: and scoop it out at the end. Anyway, I'm going

1140
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Speaker 5: to find out, I'm going to come back to you

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Speaker 5: with the proper, proper scientific no how on this next week,

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01:00:54,855 --> 01:00:57,255
Speaker 5: heater first, then the fan when finished. I always do this,

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01:00:57,455 --> 01:01:02,455
Speaker 5: never a misty mirror, says a texter. Oh, here's hopefully

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Speaker 5: some Hey, do I need a special paint to paint

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01:01:04,935 --> 01:01:07,895
Speaker 5: on a PVC downpipe off the guttering? Thanks from Barney

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01:01:08,935 --> 01:01:13,735
Speaker 5: Well special paint. I've had pretty good success with just lumbersider.

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01:01:13,815 --> 01:01:15,815
Speaker 5: So if I'm painting the exterior of the house, typically

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01:01:15,815 --> 01:01:19,295
Speaker 5: I'm using lumbersider, and that'll go straight onto the downpipes

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01:01:19,295 --> 01:01:21,415
Speaker 5: as well if they're you know, typical sort of Marley

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01:01:21,535 --> 01:01:26,655
Speaker 5: PVC downpipe. The lumbersider might need two coats, but sticks

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Speaker 5: like the proverbial. Oh eight eighty the number to call Michael,

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01:01:30,215 --> 01:01:32,975
Speaker 5: good morning, Yeah greetings.

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Speaker 14: Pretty little bit of out left field, but yeah. So

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01:01:40,695 --> 01:01:47,735
Speaker 14: twenty five years ago I laid down a concrete slab yep,

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Speaker 14: and then I relocated a shed onto it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and.

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Speaker 14: For the bathroom, made a little bit of an indentation

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Speaker 14: in the in the concrete so that the water would

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Speaker 14: flow down to a to a you know, so would

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Speaker 14: go out out and brought up five kids and still

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Speaker 14: the concrete said nothing. Nothing on the floor, no.

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Speaker 8: Other than concrete.

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Speaker 5: So when you did the concrete floor, did you apply

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Speaker 5: any sort of waterproofing to the mix or apply a

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Speaker 5: sealer to the concrete floor later?

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Speaker 2: No, nothing interesting.

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Speaker 7: What it did use was age three I think on

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Speaker 7: the the bottom plate.

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Speaker 14: Yep, yeah, yeah, and yeah, and that's all. And it's

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Speaker 14: lasted me so far twenty five years.

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Speaker 15: It's a bit cold in the winter, yes, when you

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Speaker 15: put your foot down, but yeah, so so nothing cost

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01:02:59,095 --> 01:03:02,975
Speaker 15: me nothing either, So I'm not quite.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, I mean, look, it's it's like you'd struggle

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Speaker 5: to get compliance for it today and all the rest

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Speaker 5: of it. But I love the fact that you've done

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Speaker 5: it and it's worked and it's lasted. And what's also

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Speaker 5: just by the bike quite intriguing is one of the

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Speaker 5: jobs that I looked at this week was to upgrade

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Speaker 5: some changing rooms at a boys' school, boys secondary school

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Speaker 5: there from the nineteen nineties. You know, sort of an

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Speaker 5: old fashioned shower stall with a bunch of showers that

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Speaker 5: just you know, heads that hang down from the ceiling

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Speaker 5: and onto a concrete slab and an open drain and

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Speaker 5: that sort of thing. And we're thinking, oh, can we

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Speaker 5: do something a little bit better here, and I was

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Speaker 5: looking at you because we've got a budget for the

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Speaker 5: sort of work. Can I do some individual showers, but

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Speaker 5: still keep the concrete floor. And if I'm going to

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Speaker 5: do the concrete floor as the shower base, can I

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Speaker 5: add some waterproofing to the mix, or can I apply

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Speaker 5: a seiler? But I don't want to have to put

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Speaker 5: a secondary membrane over the top of it, because that's

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Speaker 5: all maintenance. So interesting to hear you saying, look, I've

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Speaker 5: done concrete as my shower base and it's worked. So

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Speaker 5: that further confirms that I might be on the right

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Speaker 5: track in terms of doing something that's going to be

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Speaker 5: robust but practical and will last for a period of time.

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Speaker 5: I'll let you know how I get on. Michael, thank

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Speaker 5: you very much for your call. If you've ever if

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01:04:27,415 --> 01:04:30,615
Speaker 5: you've done concrete, you know, for sort of changing rooms

1202
01:04:30,655 --> 01:04:33,215
Speaker 5: and that sort of thing, and you've added a mix

1203
01:04:33,455 --> 01:04:36,615
Speaker 5: to it to help make the concrete water proof, let's

1204
01:04:36,615 --> 01:04:39,015
Speaker 5: say flip met quick text and let me know what

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Speaker 5: you used. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1206
01:04:41,415 --> 01:04:43,775
Speaker 5: number to call. We've got a break coming up. We've

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01:04:43,815 --> 01:04:48,015
Speaker 5: got some spear lines as well, so I had a

1208
01:04:48,095 --> 01:04:51,135
Speaker 5: moment yesterday that was that was incredibly exciting for me,

1209
01:04:51,175 --> 01:04:53,015
Speaker 5: and I just thought i'd share this because it started

1210
01:04:53,055 --> 01:04:56,695
Speaker 5: with a boo boo on my part. Right, So the

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01:04:56,815 --> 01:05:00,975
Speaker 5: other when was it maybe last week sometime I'd finished

1212
01:05:00,975 --> 01:05:03,895
Speaker 5: a project done all the carpentry would work part of it,

1213
01:05:04,215 --> 01:05:07,495
Speaker 5: and I was painting the last part of an exterior

1214
01:05:07,575 --> 01:05:10,455
Speaker 5: balustrade so that I could pull down the scaffolding and

1215
01:05:10,815 --> 01:05:13,695
Speaker 5: kind of wrap that job up. So while I was

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01:05:13,895 --> 01:05:19,575
Speaker 5: on the ladder painting the veranda posts top coat. You know,

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01:05:19,735 --> 01:05:22,375
Speaker 5: I'm on the ladder, I've got my brush, I've got

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01:05:22,415 --> 01:05:25,455
Speaker 5: my little two lid pot in one hand, and I'm

1219
01:05:25,535 --> 01:05:27,615
Speaker 5: reaching out and I'm sort of twisting around, and I

1220
01:05:27,895 --> 01:05:29,895
Speaker 5: was listening to some I might have been listening to

1221
01:05:29,975 --> 01:05:32,175
Speaker 5: some music or a podcast or ZB or something like

1222
01:05:32,255 --> 01:05:36,015
Speaker 5: that with my old ear pods in right, And as

1223
01:05:36,095 --> 01:05:39,295
Speaker 5: I tilted my head, the ear pod from my left

1224
01:05:39,335 --> 01:05:44,015
Speaker 5: ear dropped and with precision that the dam busters would

1225
01:05:44,015 --> 01:05:47,335
Speaker 5: have been happy about, the ear pod dropped straight into

1226
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Speaker 5: the top of the paint in my two lid pot.

1227
01:05:54,175 --> 01:05:58,495
Speaker 5: Now quite like, oh, there's a color amusing. I think

1228
01:05:58,535 --> 01:06:01,335
Speaker 5: it's seafog, but I don't know that it goes particularly

1229
01:06:01,375 --> 01:06:04,415
Speaker 5: well on EarPods. So anyway, there I am on the

1230
01:06:04,495 --> 01:06:08,575
Speaker 5: ladder with a paint pot, staring at my earpod floating

1231
01:06:08,615 --> 01:06:11,535
Speaker 5: around on the top of the paint, thinking well, I

1232
01:06:11,615 --> 01:06:13,095
Speaker 5: was thinking a lot of things that we can't say

1233
01:06:13,135 --> 01:06:20,415
Speaker 5: on air Anyway, fished it out, covered in paint, got

1234
01:06:20,455 --> 01:06:26,375
Speaker 5: down from the ladder, thought about finishing the painting, thought that, look,

1235
01:06:26,415 --> 01:06:28,335
Speaker 5: I hosed it down right. So I just hosed the

1236
01:06:28,375 --> 01:06:30,855
Speaker 5: AirPod down. I put it in the sun to dry,

1237
01:06:31,135 --> 01:06:34,935
Speaker 5: hoping that it would be okay, and I left it

1238
01:06:35,015 --> 01:06:39,095
Speaker 5: there for a while, and then I tried it and nah,

1239
01:06:40,095 --> 01:06:40,975
Speaker 5: dead as a doornail.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking.

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01:06:45,055 --> 01:06:47,335
Speaker 5: They were my good pair, right. They're not the ones

1242
01:06:47,375 --> 01:06:49,815
Speaker 5: that I usually use when I'm working outside if I

1243
01:06:49,895 --> 01:06:53,535
Speaker 5: don't have to wear my muff Deique ear muffs. Anyway,

1244
01:06:54,055 --> 01:06:56,095
Speaker 5: it sat on my desk. I charged them up again

1245
01:06:56,175 --> 01:06:58,055
Speaker 5: the other day, and then I thought about how do

1246
01:06:58,135 --> 01:07:00,575
Speaker 5: I get rid of them? Because they're ruined now, right,

1247
01:07:00,655 --> 01:07:02,295
Speaker 5: But they've got a Liftian mind battery in them, so

1248
01:07:02,335 --> 01:07:03,615
Speaker 5: I don't want to put them in the recycle. So

1249
01:07:03,655 --> 01:07:05,615
Speaker 5: I started to think about where I can take them

1250
01:07:05,695 --> 01:07:08,335
Speaker 5: so that they're disposed of correctly, and all the rest

1251
01:07:08,335 --> 01:07:12,135
Speaker 5: of it, and then yesterday was just that last last

1252
01:07:12,255 --> 01:07:17,775
Speaker 5: faint ray of hope. I popped them in and it works.

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Speaker 2: It worked.

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01:07:19,735 --> 01:07:24,815
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there going hallelujah, Thank goodness, so my AirPods

1255
01:07:24,855 --> 01:07:25,295
Speaker 5: worked again.

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01:07:25,375 --> 01:07:26,015
Speaker 2: They didn't work.

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01:07:26,375 --> 01:07:28,095
Speaker 5: They must have taken a while to dry out. But

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01:07:28,215 --> 01:07:32,575
Speaker 5: anyway they've worked. Fingers crossed, they'll they'll stay working. Oh God,

1259
01:07:32,695 --> 01:07:35,615
Speaker 5: talk about happy days yesterday. Oh anyway, don't wear your

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01:07:35,655 --> 01:07:39,375
Speaker 5: ear pods. If you're shaking your head above a paint pot,

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:07:42,215 --> 01:07:45,335
Speaker 5: We're gonna take short break to Pete. After the break

1263
01:07:46,255 --> 01:07:46,575
Speaker 5: doing of.

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01:07:46,655 --> 01:07:49,215
Speaker 1: The house sorting the garden, asked Pete for a hand

1265
01:07:49,495 --> 01:07:52,375
Speaker 1: the resident builder with Peter wolfcap call eight.

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Speaker 5: A couple of quick texts and response to my aarpod story,

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01:07:59,655 --> 01:08:03,655
Speaker 5: same thing happened to me, only in the airport in

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01:08:03,775 --> 01:08:06,415
Speaker 5: the toilet. Eventually it did spring back to life, but

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01:08:06,495 --> 01:08:09,575
Speaker 5: it did take a little while. Put the ear pods

1270
01:08:09,655 --> 01:08:12,015
Speaker 5: on dry rice for a few days. It helps with

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01:08:12,095 --> 01:08:15,895
Speaker 5: the drying out. That's very clever. I should get some shocks.

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01:08:15,935 --> 01:08:19,095
Speaker 5: They must be like over are ear pods. A couple

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01:08:19,135 --> 01:08:21,735
Speaker 5: of people have sent me this is the open run

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01:08:21,935 --> 01:08:24,535
Speaker 5: sort of wireless ones. Yeah, I was actually looking at

1275
01:08:24,935 --> 01:08:28,735
Speaker 5: the look. Typically, if I'm working and there's noise, I've

1276
01:08:28,775 --> 01:08:30,975
Speaker 5: got ear muffs on, right, and I've got muff Tech

1277
01:08:31,135 --> 01:08:32,695
Speaker 5: air muffs. I brought them a little while ago at

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01:08:32,735 --> 01:08:38,455
Speaker 5: the Wellington Home Show, and they've got Bluetooth connectivity and

1279
01:08:38,695 --> 01:08:41,855
Speaker 5: so I can listen to podcasts or whatever I happen

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01:08:41,935 --> 01:08:44,535
Speaker 5: to be listening to that way, and they're super comfortable,

1281
01:08:44,575 --> 01:08:49,175
Speaker 5: and that's great. But in this instance, it was just

1282
01:08:49,295 --> 01:08:52,855
Speaker 5: painting that's not terribly noisy. I'd done all my sanding

1283
01:08:53,095 --> 01:08:55,375
Speaker 5: and so it's a bit more lightweight to just wear

1284
01:08:55,415 --> 01:08:58,175
Speaker 5: the old Apple ear pods. But thankfully it came back

1285
01:08:58,175 --> 01:09:02,655
Speaker 5: to life. Actually, lots of people put the air pod

1286
01:09:02,695 --> 01:09:04,335
Speaker 5: in rice in a hot water cupboard for a couple

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01:09:04,375 --> 01:09:06,575
Speaker 5: of days to draw out any residual moist. I have

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Speaker 5: done exactly the same as an into a pot. I

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01:09:09,335 --> 01:09:11,575
Speaker 5: don't know that it was the immersion in the raisine

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01:09:11,735 --> 01:09:16,815
Speaker 5: sonics sea fog that I was painting. I think it

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01:09:16,975 --> 01:09:19,415
Speaker 5: was probably the fact that I hosed it down with

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01:09:19,575 --> 01:09:22,135
Speaker 5: the tap to get the water off. I just figured

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01:09:22,615 --> 01:09:24,015
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that I've got it in me to

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01:09:24,055 --> 01:09:26,495
Speaker 5: spend ages sort of wiping it down. Plus I wanted

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01:09:26,535 --> 01:09:28,375
Speaker 5: to finish the painting, so I just grabbed the garden

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01:09:28,455 --> 01:09:31,175
Speaker 5: hose and boughted it down. I figured, well, either the

1297
01:09:31,215 --> 01:09:32,815
Speaker 5: paint's going to stuff it or the water's going to

1298
01:09:32,855 --> 01:09:34,575
Speaker 5: stuff it, but I may as well get the paint off,

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01:09:35,695 --> 01:09:38,375
Speaker 5: and they sprang back to life. I have to say,

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01:09:38,455 --> 01:09:40,175
Speaker 5: I'm just delighted that they did.

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01:09:40,615 --> 01:09:42,215
Speaker 2: Peter, talk to me about your garage floor.

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01:09:43,255 --> 01:09:45,255
Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning. Can I really enjoy your program?

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01:09:45,375 --> 01:09:46,975
Speaker 5: Thank you much appreciate it.

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01:09:46,975 --> 01:09:49,855
Speaker 12: Hey, I've got a thirty year old sea declared sectional

1305
01:09:49,895 --> 01:09:54,855
Speaker 12: garage door. Yes, and the seed has failed to the point,

1306
01:09:54,935 --> 01:09:58,255
Speaker 12: and the glue and the and the whatever tacher has failed.

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01:09:59,135 --> 01:10:01,495
Speaker 12: I've replaced both springs on it, and that's got a

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01:10:01,575 --> 01:10:04,655
Speaker 12: new motor in the frame. Sign you're an option of

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01:10:05,015 --> 01:10:07,735
Speaker 12: just replacing the panels.

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01:10:07,535 --> 01:10:09,295
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely.

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01:10:09,335 --> 01:10:11,535
Speaker 5: I mean look in the end, they were fitted in

1312
01:10:11,615 --> 01:10:14,695
Speaker 5: the factory originally, right, So essentially you're just redoing what

1313
01:10:14,935 --> 01:10:18,095
Speaker 5: was done thirty odd years ago. Would you look at

1314
01:10:18,135 --> 01:10:23,975
Speaker 5: doing it yourself? Sorry, would you look at doing it yourself?

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01:10:26,495 --> 01:10:28,655
Speaker 12: Yeah? I could do, or I certainly have a look

1316
01:10:28,655 --> 01:10:28,815
Speaker 12: at that.

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01:10:28,975 --> 01:10:31,255
Speaker 5: Yeah, So when you Look, when you're standing on the

1318
01:10:31,335 --> 01:10:33,335
Speaker 5: inside of the garage door, you've got the metal frame.

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01:10:33,415 --> 01:10:36,335
Speaker 5: Does it have like plywood sheathing and then the ceedar

1320
01:10:36,455 --> 01:10:38,575
Speaker 5: fixed to it? Or is the ceedar fixed directly to

1321
01:10:38,655 --> 01:10:39,375
Speaker 5: the metal frame?

1322
01:10:40,335 --> 01:10:46,175
Speaker 12: It's got a little yeah, piece of plywood sheating that

1323
01:10:46,295 --> 01:10:47,215
Speaker 12: attaches to the middle.

1324
01:10:48,015 --> 01:10:50,815
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, do you think that when you take the

1325
01:10:51,015 --> 01:10:55,775
Speaker 5: cedar off the outside the plywood would still be intact?

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01:10:57,215 --> 01:11:01,215
Speaker 12: Yes, it would be because the pots and the plywood

1327
01:11:01,215 --> 01:11:01,815
Speaker 12: doesn't go with it.

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01:11:02,695 --> 01:11:02,895
Speaker 6: Right.

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01:11:03,055 --> 01:11:09,255
Speaker 5: Okay, Look, it's all doable. Right if you wanted to

1330
01:11:09,295 --> 01:11:11,935
Speaker 5: do it yourself, then yeah, I think you probably could.

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01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:14,375
Speaker 5: It's it would be a little bit time consuming, but

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01:11:14,495 --> 01:11:17,535
Speaker 5: it's just it's one of those things. It's just patience, right,

1333
01:11:18,535 --> 01:11:21,895
Speaker 5: getting the old seedar off, prepping the substrate, finding the

1334
01:11:21,975 --> 01:11:24,975
Speaker 5: new boards. You know, if I was going to reinstall

1335
01:11:25,255 --> 01:11:28,335
Speaker 5: seedar onto a garage frame door frame like that, I'd

1336
01:11:28,415 --> 01:11:31,855
Speaker 5: be ceiling both sides of the seedar before I installed it,

1337
01:11:32,055 --> 01:11:34,575
Speaker 5: so rather than just putting a coating on the outside

1338
01:11:34,615 --> 01:11:40,735
Speaker 5: once you've actually finished the installation, how how was the

1339
01:11:41,015 --> 01:11:44,895
Speaker 5: original sealer seedar rather actually fixed?

1340
01:11:45,055 --> 01:11:48,295
Speaker 2: Is it pins or screws or it's pinned.

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01:11:48,255 --> 01:11:51,095
Speaker 5: It's pinned. Okay, so you would do the same thing

1342
01:11:51,215 --> 01:11:54,415
Speaker 5: some stainless steel brads pinnate it is there some glue

1343
01:11:54,615 --> 01:11:55,015
Speaker 5: as well?

1344
01:11:56,135 --> 01:12:01,455
Speaker 7: Yeah? Okay, would I have an option of.

1345
01:12:03,255 --> 01:12:06,815
Speaker 12: Buying panels and you know, something a little bit more

1346
01:12:06,855 --> 01:12:10,095
Speaker 12: moral modern, but also something that I can put some

1347
01:12:10,295 --> 01:12:10,975
Speaker 12: insulation and.

1348
01:12:12,295 --> 01:12:13,535
Speaker 5: Sort of upgrading the door.

1349
01:12:14,175 --> 01:12:15,215
Speaker 12: Upgrading the door.

1350
01:12:17,015 --> 01:12:18,415
Speaker 2: Yes, theoretically.

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01:12:18,535 --> 01:12:21,215
Speaker 5: I mean, look, off the top of my head, I

1352
01:12:21,335 --> 01:12:23,575
Speaker 5: don't know anyone who would do that sort of work,

1353
01:12:23,655 --> 01:12:25,575
Speaker 5: but I do get a sense that there will be

1354
01:12:25,695 --> 01:12:28,655
Speaker 5: people out there that do it, whether or.

1355
01:12:28,655 --> 01:12:30,175
Speaker 7: Not I've asked.

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01:12:30,215 --> 01:12:33,695
Speaker 12: I've got quite a new door saying well, they are

1357
01:12:33,815 --> 01:12:35,375
Speaker 12: just saying no, no, we won't do that. We just

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01:12:35,535 --> 01:12:38,335
Speaker 12: supply doors. And I'm going, well, you know, on a

1359
01:12:38,415 --> 01:12:41,095
Speaker 12: recycling basis, you know, there's a whole lot of stuff

1360
01:12:41,135 --> 01:12:44,295
Speaker 12: that's going to be to go to a metal recyclerst yes,

1361
01:12:44,375 --> 01:12:47,775
Speaker 12: as opposed to being able to reuse it, which there's

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01:12:47,815 --> 01:12:48,495
Speaker 12: nothing wrong with it.

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01:12:49,415 --> 01:12:50,415
Speaker 5: Whereabouts in the country.

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01:12:50,495 --> 01:12:52,215
Speaker 7: Are you in Auckland?

1365
01:12:52,455 --> 01:12:56,455
Speaker 5: You're in Auckland. Okay. Look, if someone who is listening

1366
01:12:56,535 --> 01:12:59,095
Speaker 5: who does this sort of work wants to text me,

1367
01:13:00,015 --> 01:13:02,735
Speaker 5: I'm happy to read that out. So stay listening for

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01:13:02,815 --> 01:13:05,375
Speaker 5: the next. Someone's got to do it within the next

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01:13:05,415 --> 01:13:07,775
Speaker 5: thirty minutes, right, So if you can stay tuned ntil

1370
01:13:07,815 --> 01:13:10,975
Speaker 5: eight fifteen or thereabouts or longer obviously because we've got

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01:13:10,975 --> 01:13:14,775
Speaker 5: the rugby coming up at nine o'clock. But by all means,

1372
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Speaker 5: if someone wants to text me, because I'm sure I've

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01:13:16,735 --> 01:13:20,055
Speaker 5: seen some companies out there that do this sort of work,

1374
01:13:21,495 --> 01:13:23,255
Speaker 5: and I agree with you. I think that you're taking

1375
01:13:23,335 --> 01:13:26,015
Speaker 5: the right approach that it is. I get that, you know,

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01:13:26,135 --> 01:13:27,975
Speaker 5: a garage door company wants to sell you a new

1377
01:13:28,015 --> 01:13:31,495
Speaker 5: garage door. I get that, but you're you're right to say, look,

1378
01:13:31,695 --> 01:13:34,295
Speaker 5: here's a door that basically is sound, but the surface

1379
01:13:34,415 --> 01:13:38,055
Speaker 5: has deteriorated. So can I keep the frame, the hinges,

1380
01:13:38,095 --> 01:13:40,495
Speaker 5: the hardware and all the rest of it and simply

1381
01:13:40,575 --> 01:13:42,695
Speaker 5: refurbish the door. Yeah, of course you can. So if

1382
01:13:42,735 --> 01:13:44,855
Speaker 5: someone wants to text me, I'm happy to read that out.

1383
01:13:46,055 --> 01:13:46,215
Speaker 7: Yes.

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01:13:46,375 --> 01:13:47,695
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks ver much much appreciate it.

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01:13:47,735 --> 01:13:50,055
Speaker 5: All the best to you, Peter, take care. Yeah, if

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01:13:50,135 --> 01:13:53,495
Speaker 5: you are doing this work and you're good, then by

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01:13:53,535 --> 01:13:56,335
Speaker 5: all means, text us nine two nine two and happy

1388
01:13:56,615 --> 01:13:58,815
Speaker 5: to pass that on to Peter. Oh eight hundred and

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01:13:58,815 --> 01:14:01,495
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty the number to call quick text as well. Hey,

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01:14:01,615 --> 01:14:03,895
Speaker 5: what's the theory on having to get a building consent

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01:14:04,015 --> 01:14:07,615
Speaker 5: to insulate an outside wall nexterior If I had the

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01:14:07,735 --> 01:14:11,375
Speaker 5: jib off the inside wall, the inside of the exterior wall,

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01:14:11,415 --> 01:14:13,615
Speaker 5: my nineteen sixty six house, a very fine year, by

1394
01:14:13,615 --> 01:14:16,855
Speaker 5: the way, that has no insulation in the outside wall,

1395
01:14:16,975 --> 01:14:19,375
Speaker 5: I would fit the right insulation while I had the chance.

1396
01:14:19,695 --> 01:14:21,255
Speaker 5: Why would I pay the council.

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01:14:20,935 --> 01:14:21,575
Speaker 2: For the privilege.

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01:14:21,615 --> 01:14:23,615
Speaker 5: We need to push it so it moves to schedule

1399
01:14:23,695 --> 01:14:26,935
Speaker 5: one from Tony, Tony, I agree with you. I think

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01:14:27,015 --> 01:14:30,135
Speaker 5: that this is something that should have gone to schedule

1401
01:14:30,255 --> 01:14:32,655
Speaker 5: one of the building at which sets out work that

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01:14:32,735 --> 01:14:36,495
Speaker 5: can be done without necessarily requiring a building consent. My

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01:14:36,695 --> 01:14:40,135
Speaker 5: understanding is that it requires a building consent because in

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01:14:40,615 --> 01:14:45,375
Speaker 5: some instances, if this is done wrong, the wrong type

1405
01:14:45,415 --> 01:14:49,935
Speaker 5: of insulation is used, it's installed incorrectly, it can actually

1406
01:14:50,295 --> 01:14:53,095
Speaker 5: bring more moisture into the building envelope right, So it

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01:14:53,215 --> 01:14:56,935
Speaker 5: creates a bigger problem than a lack of insulation. If

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01:14:56,975 --> 01:14:59,495
Speaker 5: you've got a lack of insulation, typically in an old house,

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01:15:00,135 --> 01:15:03,095
Speaker 5: you'll have a bit of drying that will happen, ventilation

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01:15:03,215 --> 01:15:07,135
Speaker 5: that will happen, so moisture is mana by the fact

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01:15:07,135 --> 01:15:10,055
Speaker 5: that it's drafty. It's an old phrase for old houses

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01:15:10,135 --> 01:15:16,335
Speaker 5: drafty but dry. So if you then put insulation in

1413
01:15:16,495 --> 01:15:21,855
Speaker 5: and you block that potential for drainage or ventilation, then

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01:15:21,935 --> 01:15:24,735
Speaker 5: you can introduce moisture and you get mold and you

1415
01:15:24,855 --> 01:15:27,375
Speaker 5: get rot. And that's why I think they've kept it

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01:15:27,535 --> 01:15:30,615
Speaker 5: as it requires a building consent just so people do

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01:15:30,775 --> 01:15:35,295
Speaker 5: it right. I think that that is exactly given the

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01:15:35,575 --> 01:15:40,135
Speaker 5: desperate need to get more insulation into our houses and

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01:15:40,295 --> 01:15:44,815
Speaker 5: the amount of houses that are still partly uninsulated. That

1420
01:15:44,935 --> 01:15:47,575
Speaker 5: number is dropping, but there's still a number of houses

1421
01:15:47,615 --> 01:15:52,015
Speaker 5: that need retrofitting of insulation into exterior walls. It should

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01:15:52,135 --> 01:15:55,495
Speaker 5: be moved to Schedule one and it should be done

1423
01:15:55,655 --> 01:15:58,375
Speaker 5: or supervised by an LBP so that there's a record

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01:15:58,415 --> 01:16:01,815
Speaker 5: of work for it, there's evidence that there was planning

1425
01:16:02,055 --> 01:16:04,935
Speaker 5: and you know, some sort of advice, some sort of

1426
01:16:05,215 --> 01:16:07,295
Speaker 5: analysis of what the problem, how are we going to

1427
01:16:07,335 --> 01:16:09,895
Speaker 5: fix it, here's my solution, and here's a record of it.

1428
01:16:10,255 --> 01:16:12,175
Speaker 5: But yes, I agree with you, Tony, it should go

1429
01:16:12,335 --> 01:16:14,695
Speaker 5: to shed you one of the act. Maybe when the

1430
01:16:14,775 --> 01:16:16,775
Speaker 5: minister's here next week I can have a chat with

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01:16:16,895 --> 01:16:20,415
Speaker 5: him about exactly that. Not next week fourteenth or September

1432
01:16:20,495 --> 01:16:23,215
Speaker 5: at the stages. Whereas when we're talking about possibly having

1433
01:16:23,815 --> 01:16:26,495
Speaker 5: the Minister Chris Pink come into the studio for a

1434
01:16:26,575 --> 01:16:29,255
Speaker 5: bit of a chat again, and I promise you when

1435
01:16:29,295 --> 01:16:31,695
Speaker 5: he does come, i'ld chat for a bit and then

1436
01:16:31,695 --> 01:16:33,855
Speaker 5: we're going to open it up to texts and you

1437
01:16:33,975 --> 01:16:37,895
Speaker 5: can ask the Minister your questions as well, and I'll

1438
01:16:37,975 --> 01:16:41,095
Speaker 5: stop hogging the time. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

1439
01:16:41,175 --> 01:16:42,575
Speaker 5: will do we have another break?

1440
01:16:42,735 --> 01:16:43,095
Speaker 6: Yeah, we do.

1441
01:16:43,295 --> 01:16:44,975
Speaker 5: Let's take a break. Then we'll talk to Dean.

1442
01:16:45,255 --> 01:16:48,135
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

1443
01:16:48,215 --> 01:16:50,295
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

1444
01:16:50,375 --> 01:16:55,575
Speaker 1: wolf gafacall on, the resident fielder on Youth Dogs' b.

1445
01:16:57,295 --> 01:16:58,215
Speaker 2: First text come in.

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01:16:58,335 --> 01:17:00,815
Speaker 5: With regard to the garage door. We'll mention that in

1447
01:17:01,095 --> 01:17:03,095
Speaker 5: just a moment, Dean, good morning to you.

1448
01:17:04,455 --> 01:17:08,255
Speaker 16: Indeed, we have a s in our on suite and

1449
01:17:10,095 --> 01:17:13,815
Speaker 16: there's a gap between the plastic floor pan I suppose

1450
01:17:14,255 --> 01:17:19,975
Speaker 16: and the lovely plasticall feating and we fill it from

1451
01:17:20,015 --> 01:17:22,975
Speaker 16: time to time and get it filled with some sort

1452
01:17:22,975 --> 01:17:24,975
Speaker 16: of ceiling, this gap between the two of them, and

1453
01:17:25,095 --> 01:17:28,335
Speaker 16: it always just colors, even if we get mold resistant

1454
01:17:28,455 --> 01:17:32,295
Speaker 16: blah blah blah blah blah, And it makes me think

1455
01:17:32,375 --> 01:17:37,975
Speaker 16: that there's possibly a leak going on there anyway. So

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01:17:38,735 --> 01:17:41,495
Speaker 16: without having to replace the entire shower, I was thinking,

1457
01:17:41,815 --> 01:17:45,135
Speaker 16: as you do in the shower, there's such a thing

1458
01:17:45,175 --> 01:17:47,375
Speaker 16: as like a plastic strip or something you can buy.

1459
01:17:48,255 --> 01:17:51,615
Speaker 16: It goes between the plastic wall lining and the plastic

1460
01:17:51,735 --> 01:17:53,695
Speaker 16: shower pan that you can.

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01:17:54,335 --> 01:17:59,095
Speaker 5: Apply to cover that, to try and seal that or yeah.

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01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:02,135
Speaker 16: I've seen that obviously isn't doing the job. I mean,

1463
01:18:02,175 --> 01:18:04,375
Speaker 16: if it's just coloring, it's to me that implies this

1464
01:18:04,535 --> 01:18:07,935
Speaker 16: water getting into it too much. You know, I'm not

1465
01:18:07,975 --> 01:18:08,615
Speaker 16: a plumber, I know.

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01:18:08,775 --> 01:18:10,615
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suspect.

1467
01:18:11,535 --> 01:18:13,615
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're saying that there's water getting

1468
01:18:13,615 --> 01:18:13,775
Speaker 5: in it.

1469
01:18:13,855 --> 01:18:16,015
Speaker 2: I mean the fact I know that there is.

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01:18:16,375 --> 01:18:18,855
Speaker 16: I mean, it's just that this the silicon is supposed

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01:18:18,855 --> 01:18:19,735
Speaker 16: to be anti mold.

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01:18:19,895 --> 01:18:22,655
Speaker 5: Yeah I know. Yeah, and it's just coloring, right, It

1473
01:18:22,815 --> 01:18:26,655
Speaker 5: makes I pulled out some sealant that was put in.

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01:18:26,895 --> 01:18:29,295
Speaker 5: I know, because I basically was there when they put

1475
01:18:29,335 --> 01:18:33,935
Speaker 5: it in. In twenty twenty, A bead of sealant between

1476
01:18:33,975 --> 01:18:38,375
Speaker 5: the vanity and the tiled splash back, let's say, and

1477
01:18:38,495 --> 01:18:41,975
Speaker 5: again you know this is it's a vanity, right, so

1478
01:18:42,055 --> 01:18:45,495
Speaker 5: it's not even in the bowl as such, mold all

1479
01:18:45,535 --> 01:18:47,375
Speaker 5: the way through it. And I thought, I'm sure that

1480
01:18:47,495 --> 01:18:50,255
Speaker 5: we use you know, anti mold sealant. So again, happy

1481
01:18:50,295 --> 01:18:52,255
Speaker 5: to take a text from someone who goes, I've actually

1482
01:18:52,735 --> 01:18:55,055
Speaker 5: used a product that says it's anti mold that actually

1483
01:18:55,175 --> 01:18:58,735
Speaker 5: is anti mold. But that's a separate matter. The other

1484
01:18:58,815 --> 01:19:00,535
Speaker 5: thing that I want to point out because I know

1485
01:19:00,695 --> 01:19:03,335
Speaker 5: that this is a common issue with that type of

1486
01:19:03,495 --> 01:19:07,215
Speaker 5: shower installation. So you've got a train which is fitted

1487
01:19:07,495 --> 01:19:11,095
Speaker 5: onto the floor and pushed hardback against the timber framing.

1488
01:19:11,135 --> 01:19:14,655
Speaker 5: Typically your lining comes that, your substraight lining comes down

1489
01:19:15,215 --> 01:19:17,455
Speaker 5: and then there's an upstand on the tray, and then

1490
01:19:17,575 --> 01:19:22,455
Speaker 5: your internal lining sits down over that, so it seals

1491
01:19:22,495 --> 01:19:25,495
Speaker 5: the gap by having an overlap, right, And when you

1492
01:19:26,215 --> 01:19:30,215
Speaker 5: install that shower lining, where you should apply the sealant

1493
01:19:30,455 --> 01:19:33,255
Speaker 5: is at the top of the upstand of the tray,

1494
01:19:34,055 --> 01:19:37,375
Speaker 5: so that when you push the lining against it, it

1495
01:19:37,655 --> 01:19:40,655
Speaker 5: seals and stops moisture tracking up and over the upstand.

1496
01:19:41,135 --> 01:19:44,335
Speaker 5: But you don't have the sealant visible from the inside.

1497
01:19:45,695 --> 01:19:49,495
Speaker 5: So that's how it should be installed. So if you

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01:19:49,655 --> 01:19:51,575
Speaker 5: don't put the sealant there and then you whip a

1499
01:19:51,615 --> 01:19:55,375
Speaker 5: bead of sealant around later on, then that is going

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01:19:55,415 --> 01:20:00,175
Speaker 5: to be a problem because it's constantly exposed. So the

1501
01:20:00,375 --> 01:20:04,655
Speaker 5: other thing to try is to use some silicon removal

1502
01:20:04,895 --> 01:20:07,055
Speaker 5: And I got a foam the other day that I

1503
01:20:07,175 --> 01:20:10,055
Speaker 5: found it one of the large hardware stores. So again

1504
01:20:10,215 --> 01:20:12,495
Speaker 5: on this vanity project, I had to replace the tap

1505
01:20:12,575 --> 01:20:14,775
Speaker 5: the other day, so while the tap was out, I

1506
01:20:14,815 --> 01:20:19,015
Speaker 5: took the opportunity I use this silicon removal foam like

1507
01:20:19,095 --> 01:20:21,735
Speaker 5: a spray that goes on and then I stripped out

1508
01:20:21,735 --> 01:20:24,495
Speaker 5: the celant, let it dry and replace the celant at

1509
01:20:24,535 --> 01:20:28,215
Speaker 5: the same time as we replace the tap. Is you

1510
01:20:28,335 --> 01:20:31,335
Speaker 5: could try and use this foam to remove or the

1511
01:20:31,495 --> 01:20:35,055
Speaker 5: spray to remove the sealant, and don't put any sealant

1512
01:20:35,095 --> 01:20:38,775
Speaker 5: there because it doesn't If there's a bead of sealant

1513
01:20:38,855 --> 01:20:41,615
Speaker 5: higher up, that sealant is not doing anything.

1514
01:20:41,415 --> 01:20:43,615
Speaker 16: Anyway, right, gotcha?

1515
01:20:44,455 --> 01:20:46,495
Speaker 5: But I guess the question is if there isn't a

1516
01:20:46,575 --> 01:20:51,135
Speaker 5: bead of sealant further up, then you know potentially you've

1517
01:20:51,175 --> 01:20:54,255
Speaker 5: got an issue there. But that's not where the sealant

1518
01:20:54,295 --> 01:20:57,255
Speaker 5: should go. Anyway, so I just remove it and see

1519
01:20:57,295 --> 01:20:57,775
Speaker 5: what happens.

1520
01:20:58,895 --> 01:20:59,215
Speaker 16: Excellent.

1521
01:20:59,375 --> 01:21:01,055
Speaker 7: Yeah, so as far as.

1522
01:21:02,655 --> 01:21:05,135
Speaker 16: They'd say, for agurent sake that we decided that it's

1523
01:21:05,175 --> 01:21:09,175
Speaker 16: not been installed properly, you can take those plastic walllining

1524
01:21:09,775 --> 01:21:14,095
Speaker 16: very very basically for another one of those.

1525
01:21:14,575 --> 01:21:15,415
Speaker 5: Ye yep.

1526
01:21:15,815 --> 01:21:16,135
Speaker 7: Excellent.

1527
01:21:16,335 --> 01:21:17,175
Speaker 5: Okay, good luck with.

1528
01:21:20,295 --> 01:21:21,455
Speaker 7: I really appreciate you.

1529
01:21:22,535 --> 01:21:24,695
Speaker 5: Hey, look, I don't want to do anyone out of work,

1530
01:21:24,815 --> 01:21:26,775
Speaker 5: but sometimes there are other solutions.

1531
01:21:28,135 --> 01:21:29,935
Speaker 2: Nice to talk with you. Thank you very much.

1532
01:21:30,375 --> 01:21:34,015
Speaker 5: You take care, Dean. We'll talk to Shane after the

1533
01:21:34,055 --> 01:21:37,455
Speaker 5: break because we're rushing up to New Sport and we're

1534
01:21:37,495 --> 01:21:40,095
Speaker 5: the top of the hour, which is awesome. So I've

1535
01:21:40,135 --> 01:21:44,175
Speaker 5: just had this text from Jacent at Kinetic Excess Garage Doors.

1536
01:21:44,695 --> 01:21:47,455
Speaker 5: They're in Auckland and christ Church. You can find them

1537
01:21:47,495 --> 01:21:52,375
Speaker 5: online Kinetic Excess dot co dot m z. And he

1538
01:21:52,575 --> 01:21:57,015
Speaker 5: might have a solution for Peter who wants to replace

1539
01:21:57,135 --> 01:22:02,535
Speaker 5: the exterior seedar on existing garage door because it's wasteful

1540
01:22:02,615 --> 01:22:03,255
Speaker 5: to throw it away.

1541
01:22:03,495 --> 01:22:03,615
Speaker 12: Right.

1542
01:22:04,415 --> 01:22:08,615
Speaker 5: Talking about waste, and I've I see that brands have

1543
01:22:08,735 --> 01:22:11,455
Speaker 5: just done their annual report and they've got some waste analysis.

1544
01:22:11,535 --> 01:22:14,455
Speaker 5: I had a long conversation with someone who works heavily

1545
01:22:14,535 --> 01:22:16,815
Speaker 5: in the sector. That's going to be a bit of

1546
01:22:16,855 --> 01:22:18,935
Speaker 5: a focus over the next couple of weeks for me too,

1547
01:22:19,015 --> 01:22:23,135
Speaker 5: as we need to start talking rubbish. I know the

1548
01:22:23,215 --> 01:22:26,855
Speaker 5: text will come through, mate, that's all you talk, but no, seriously,

1549
01:22:27,335 --> 01:22:30,095
Speaker 5: waste and the amount of waste created from the construction

1550
01:22:30,335 --> 01:22:34,975
Speaker 5: sector is unbelievable, so we need to do something about that,

1551
01:22:35,095 --> 01:22:37,175
Speaker 5: so we'll talk about waste as well on the show.

1552
01:22:37,455 --> 01:22:39,655
Speaker 5: Remember Rood's going to be here early. We've got the

1553
01:22:39,735 --> 01:22:41,015
Speaker 5: rugby after nine o'clock.

1554
01:22:41,775 --> 01:22:43,855
Speaker 2: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1555
01:22:44,095 --> 01:22:47,375
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1556
01:22:47,655 --> 01:22:48,295
Speaker 1: on news Talk.

1557
01:22:48,375 --> 01:22:52,055
Speaker 5: Semb right, Oh, welcome back to the show. Eight hundred

1558
01:22:52,055 --> 01:22:54,295
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We'll

1559
01:22:54,335 --> 01:22:56,455
Speaker 5: talk building for just a little while. Then we're going

1560
01:22:56,495 --> 01:22:59,295
Speaker 5: to bring rud in early because basically we're handing over

1561
01:22:59,335 --> 01:23:02,335
Speaker 5: to the sports team at around eight forty six this

1562
01:23:02,495 --> 01:23:06,495
Speaker 5: morning for some pre match coverage. Remember kickoff just after

1563
01:23:06,615 --> 01:23:10,335
Speaker 5: nine o'clock here at Newstalk, said b Well, the game's

1564
01:23:10,335 --> 01:23:12,175
Speaker 5: not here, the games in buddhist aaris. It is the

1565
01:23:12,335 --> 01:23:15,615
Speaker 5: All Blacks versus Lost Boomers, the second Test match of

1566
01:23:15,735 --> 01:23:20,495
Speaker 5: their Argentinian Tour. Live coverage here from just after nine

1567
01:23:20,535 --> 01:23:25,535
Speaker 5: o'clock this morning. Getting some texts which is awesome about

1568
01:23:25,575 --> 01:23:29,615
Speaker 5: the waste. So it's a whole topic for a whole

1569
01:23:29,655 --> 01:23:34,735
Speaker 5: other day. It's a really really important topic. A pik

1570
01:23:35,055 --> 01:23:37,495
Speaker 5: guy McKey at Boss Construction christ Church gets all of

1571
01:23:37,535 --> 01:23:40,095
Speaker 5: their construction ways sorted and recycled where possible.

1572
01:23:40,415 --> 01:23:40,975
Speaker 2: Speak with them.

1573
01:23:41,175 --> 01:23:44,095
Speaker 5: More than happy to do that, Quinn, I'll talk to

1574
01:23:44,095 --> 01:23:46,695
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of people. But what that text says

1575
01:23:46,775 --> 01:23:49,455
Speaker 5: to me is that there are companies that are doing

1576
01:23:49,535 --> 01:23:51,695
Speaker 5: it and it is possible, and I know it's possible

1577
01:23:51,695 --> 01:23:54,575
Speaker 5: because I've seen it and I've done it, which also,

1578
01:23:55,175 --> 01:23:57,455
Speaker 5: to be really blunt, says to me that if you're

1579
01:23:57,495 --> 01:24:02,735
Speaker 5: not doing it, you're either ill informed, misinformed, ignorant, or.

1580
01:24:02,895 --> 01:24:03,815
Speaker 2: Just you don't care.

1581
01:24:04,375 --> 01:24:07,135
Speaker 5: And I don't think that's acceptable anymore to be blocked.

1582
01:24:07,295 --> 01:24:09,415
Speaker 5: So if you're doing a renovation, you need to be

1583
01:24:09,535 --> 01:24:11,935
Speaker 5: talking with your tradees. What are you going to do

1584
01:24:12,215 --> 01:24:15,175
Speaker 5: with a waste? Where's it going? How are you managing it?

1585
01:24:15,735 --> 01:24:17,375
Speaker 5: And if they go, look we just put it in

1586
01:24:17,455 --> 01:24:18,895
Speaker 5: a skip and they take it away and they put

1587
01:24:18,895 --> 01:24:21,295
Speaker 5: it into landfill, I don't think that's good enough anymore.

1588
01:24:21,415 --> 01:24:23,615
Speaker 5: There you go, mixt you're over for the morning. I'm

1589
01:24:23,655 --> 01:24:26,295
Speaker 5: pretty passionate about it. I sit on a board of

1590
01:24:26,375 --> 01:24:30,615
Speaker 5: a recycling center for that reason. And I was sitting

1591
01:24:30,655 --> 01:24:32,375
Speaker 5: in the traffic the other day actually, and there was

1592
01:24:32,935 --> 01:24:35,335
Speaker 5: another trader ute next to me with a cage trailer

1593
01:24:35,775 --> 01:24:39,415
Speaker 5: full of building materials, and I kind of assumed that

1594
01:24:39,495 --> 01:24:40,895
Speaker 5: I know where they were going. They're going to hop

1595
01:24:40,935 --> 01:24:42,375
Speaker 5: on the boat away. They're going to take that up

1596
01:24:42,415 --> 01:24:44,895
Speaker 5: to landfill. And I'm looking at going. You know, like,

1597
01:24:45,095 --> 01:24:48,535
Speaker 5: if you bought it to, for example, the Resource Recovery

1598
01:24:48,575 --> 01:24:50,415
Speaker 5: Center in Devenport, we'd tip it out on the ground

1599
01:24:50,455 --> 01:24:53,815
Speaker 5: we'd sought it, and we'd divert seventy six percent of

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01:24:54,015 --> 01:24:56,615
Speaker 5: that material from landfill. So you can do it. You

1601
01:24:56,815 --> 01:24:59,215
Speaker 5: just have to have the inclination to do it. And

1602
01:24:59,335 --> 01:25:03,495
Speaker 5: I think if you're getting work done as a consumer,

1603
01:25:03,815 --> 01:25:06,135
Speaker 5: you need to be asking your tradees what are you

1604
01:25:06,135 --> 01:25:09,015
Speaker 5: do doing with the waste? And if they say we

1605
01:25:09,175 --> 01:25:11,375
Speaker 5: just put on the skip and we don't care, then

1606
01:25:11,855 --> 01:25:14,815
Speaker 5: I'd recommend that you talk to a different trading There

1607
01:25:14,855 --> 01:25:18,535
Speaker 5: you go, Shane, good morning, Welcome, good morning.

1608
01:25:19,535 --> 01:25:23,935
Speaker 12: I'm a building inspector I've been inspected for sixteen years

1609
01:25:24,655 --> 01:25:27,375
Speaker 12: and then and as a builder for thirty five years.

1610
01:25:28,135 --> 01:25:31,335
Speaker 12: I've talked on side about this subject so many times

1611
01:25:31,375 --> 01:25:33,855
Speaker 12: in the last sixteen years. Where you go to a

1612
01:25:33,975 --> 01:25:36,815
Speaker 12: job they're doing a reno, they've ripped off all the

1613
01:25:36,895 --> 01:25:39,055
Speaker 12: jib board and they're now stuffing bats in the wall.

1614
01:25:39,575 --> 01:25:43,055
Speaker 12: But the problem is all old houses leak, and you

1615
01:25:43,135 --> 01:25:45,455
Speaker 12: would have seen it yourself. Water stains down the back

1616
01:25:45,495 --> 01:25:47,295
Speaker 12: of the weather boards and down the studs where the

1617
01:25:47,335 --> 01:25:49,855
Speaker 12: water is driven in, but it's dried out the next day.

1618
01:25:50,015 --> 01:25:52,975
Speaker 12: So what you said before about drafty in the walls

1619
01:25:53,135 --> 01:25:54,015
Speaker 12: is really good.

1620
01:25:54,255 --> 01:25:56,775
Speaker 5: Now drafty but dry. Yeah, that's how you describe all.

1621
01:25:57,495 --> 01:25:58,535
Speaker 7: Yep, that's right.

1622
01:25:58,975 --> 01:26:02,095
Speaker 12: But when you stuff bats in or no, won't use

1623
01:26:02,095 --> 01:26:04,975
Speaker 12: the word bats. Fiberglass insulation or a lot of insulation

1624
01:26:05,135 --> 01:26:08,055
Speaker 12: in the walls, that is like a big sponge in there.

1625
01:26:08,335 --> 01:26:13,215
Speaker 12: And if it does get windblown rain into past the weatherboards,

1626
01:26:13,615 --> 01:26:15,895
Speaker 12: that's going to saturate the bats, which are like a

1627
01:26:15,935 --> 01:26:16,615
Speaker 12: big sponge.

1628
01:26:16,975 --> 01:26:17,455
Speaker 8: It's like a.

1629
01:26:17,535 --> 01:26:22,775
Speaker 12: Dripping tap under a let's call them heads. Yeah, like

1630
01:26:22,855 --> 01:26:26,255
Speaker 12: a plastic market under a dripping tap. Now, there is

1631
01:26:26,295 --> 01:26:29,455
Speaker 12: a way of actually protecting the bats and that's by

1632
01:26:29,975 --> 01:26:34,655
Speaker 12: encasing the insulation in the walls with building paper. Now,

1633
01:26:35,135 --> 01:26:37,935
Speaker 12: the problem is, rarely have I seen that done profit.

1634
01:26:38,055 --> 01:26:40,615
Speaker 12: They'll just stuff about the building paper and these are

1635
01:26:40,695 --> 01:26:44,295
Speaker 12: qualified people, and then they stuff the bats in, but

1636
01:26:44,415 --> 01:26:47,295
Speaker 12: that's not going to protect give a little raincoat to

1637
01:26:47,455 --> 01:26:51,575
Speaker 12: deflect the water away from the insulation. The problem is

1638
01:26:51,975 --> 01:26:56,135
Speaker 12: if you've got insulation and an existing wall, exterior wall

1639
01:26:57,095 --> 01:26:59,935
Speaker 12: and it does leak, you've created taken you one hundred

1640
01:27:00,055 --> 01:27:02,495
Speaker 12: year old villain to a compost heap within about five

1641
01:27:02,615 --> 01:27:07,575
Speaker 12: years now, I didaborate with a guy who was doing

1642
01:27:07,655 --> 01:27:11,815
Speaker 12: this thesis on insulation and we basically figured out that

1643
01:27:12,735 --> 01:27:15,535
Speaker 12: most of the damage caused by in the leaky building

1644
01:27:15,615 --> 01:27:19,135
Speaker 12: home or leaky building syndrome was probably the five or

1645
01:27:19,175 --> 01:27:23,895
Speaker 12: pass insulation. Well, if you can, if you can, and

1646
01:27:24,015 --> 01:27:26,375
Speaker 12: I know it rots really fast and stuff like that,

1647
01:27:26,495 --> 01:27:29,935
Speaker 12: but when you trap water in the walls, you've you've

1648
01:27:30,055 --> 01:27:32,855
Speaker 12: really created a huge issue. And this is why it

1649
01:27:32,935 --> 01:27:35,615
Speaker 12: needs to be supervised by the council.

1650
01:27:36,175 --> 01:27:40,055
Speaker 5: Now in Shane, I don't disagree with you, but I

1651
01:27:40,455 --> 01:27:44,495
Speaker 5: do want to say I don't think we should suggest

1652
01:27:44,575 --> 01:27:46,935
Speaker 5: to people that the issue with leaky buildings is the

1653
01:27:47,015 --> 01:27:50,735
Speaker 5: insulation right. The issue with leaky buildings was the water

1654
01:27:50,935 --> 01:27:51,335
Speaker 5: getting in.

1655
01:27:51,855 --> 01:27:54,775
Speaker 12: Now I agree completely, Yeah, okay, but somehow it was

1656
01:27:54,895 --> 01:27:59,055
Speaker 12: leaked in the past, but you exacerbate the problem when

1657
01:27:59,215 --> 01:28:01,175
Speaker 12: you don't allow it to dry out.

1658
01:28:03,495 --> 01:28:03,695
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1659
01:28:03,935 --> 01:28:06,895
Speaker 12: So this is why all modern houses have around the

1660
01:28:06,935 --> 01:28:10,655
Speaker 12: windows and building paper laps into the window openings to

1661
01:28:11,175 --> 01:28:14,455
Speaker 12: try and make that one hundred percent waterproof. You can't

1662
01:28:14,575 --> 01:28:17,695
Speaker 12: get that with an existing old house, true, unless you

1663
01:28:17,855 --> 01:28:21,495
Speaker 12: take all the clotting off. So so much damage will

1664
01:28:21,535 --> 01:28:25,575
Speaker 12: be caused to people's houses by inadvertently just trying to

1665
01:28:25,615 --> 01:28:28,295
Speaker 12: insulate the walls to keep it keep it warm, But

1666
01:28:28,415 --> 01:28:29,495
Speaker 12: that doesn't keep it dry.

1667
01:28:30,335 --> 01:28:32,535
Speaker 5: And I think that's why, and i'd agree with you

1668
01:28:32,695 --> 01:28:35,615
Speaker 5: that that that's why it stays as work that requires

1669
01:28:35,655 --> 01:28:39,495
Speaker 5: a building consent, because you can actually do more damage

1670
01:28:39,495 --> 01:28:43,655
Speaker 5: to your house than good by installing insulation and not

1671
01:28:43,935 --> 01:28:45,175
Speaker 5: thinking about the other things.

1672
01:28:45,215 --> 01:28:45,415
Speaker 7: I mean.

1673
01:28:45,455 --> 01:28:47,855
Speaker 5: The other thing is, and I've done itself, is we

1674
01:28:48,095 --> 01:28:51,055
Speaker 5: use like a drainage material against the back of the

1675
01:28:51,335 --> 01:28:55,975
Speaker 5: old weatherboards that allows for some ventilation. So there's a

1676
01:28:56,135 --> 01:28:59,015
Speaker 5: damp product, so you put that on, then you put

1677
01:28:59,015 --> 01:29:02,455
Speaker 5: your building paper in, you know, as neatly as possible,

1678
01:29:02,535 --> 01:29:05,335
Speaker 5: and then you install your insulation. The other thing is

1679
01:29:05,415 --> 01:29:09,695
Speaker 5: that different types of paired insulations are moisture phobic, so

1680
01:29:09,815 --> 01:29:14,575
Speaker 5: they won't hold moisture. So still are concerned, but you

1681
01:29:14,655 --> 01:29:17,415
Speaker 5: know there are ways around it. And I guess what

1682
01:29:17,575 --> 01:29:19,415
Speaker 5: you and I are saying is you can do it,

1683
01:29:19,655 --> 01:29:21,495
Speaker 5: you have to do it right. And because we want

1684
01:29:21,535 --> 01:29:24,335
Speaker 5: to do it right, that's why government probably says it

1685
01:29:24,455 --> 01:29:26,935
Speaker 5: still needs to have a building consent. I just look

1686
01:29:26,975 --> 01:29:28,855
Speaker 5: at it and go it's the sort of work that

1687
01:29:29,055 --> 01:29:31,695
Speaker 5: could be done under Schedule one of the act if

1688
01:29:31,735 --> 01:29:35,215
Speaker 5: it was done by an LBP, and then you'd hope

1689
01:29:35,255 --> 01:29:39,495
Speaker 5: that the LBP would know enough. I'm probably unrealistic in

1690
01:29:39,615 --> 01:29:42,495
Speaker 5: my optimism, but that's one way of looking at it.

1691
01:29:43,495 --> 01:29:46,495
Speaker 12: Well, you are right in all the ones I've done,

1692
01:29:46,535 --> 01:29:50,455
Speaker 12: and I've done a lot of intellections thirty thousand inspections

1693
01:29:50,535 --> 01:29:58,055
Speaker 12: in the last sixteen years, and often no one's supervising

1694
01:29:58,255 --> 01:30:01,415
Speaker 12: the young apprentice who's stuff in the billing paper and that,

1695
01:30:01,975 --> 01:30:04,335
Speaker 12: And I would say in less than five percent of

1696
01:30:04,535 --> 01:30:08,215
Speaker 12: cases that I've done in the sixteen years has the

1697
01:30:08,375 --> 01:30:14,375
Speaker 12: actual protection of the insulation with building paper being done properly.

1698
01:30:14,575 --> 01:30:18,575
Speaker 12: But your idea of putting an insulation pad which gives

1699
01:30:18,655 --> 01:30:21,455
Speaker 12: insulation behind the weatherboard. It's just a fantastic idea.

1700
01:30:21,615 --> 01:30:24,175
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's a product called damp mat I think

1701
01:30:24,215 --> 01:30:26,215
Speaker 5: it is, and there's a couple of other ones that

1702
01:30:26,295 --> 01:30:29,655
Speaker 5: are coming out that essentially, you know, because I've seen

1703
01:30:29,695 --> 01:30:32,255
Speaker 5: the pictures right where you go. What you do is

1704
01:30:32,295 --> 01:30:35,175
Speaker 5: you stay with your building paper fifteen millimeters off the

1705
01:30:35,215 --> 01:30:39,535
Speaker 5: back face and it stays perfectly straight and it allows

1706
01:30:39,615 --> 01:30:41,055
Speaker 5: for drain that just doesn't happen.

1707
01:30:41,135 --> 01:30:41,295
Speaker 7: Right.

1708
01:30:41,415 --> 01:30:43,175
Speaker 5: You can draw it, but you can't do it. So

1709
01:30:43,895 --> 01:30:46,495
Speaker 5: what this does is it goes. Actually what you do

1710
01:30:46,655 --> 01:30:49,375
Speaker 5: is you apply this product. It's like a scouring pad, right,

1711
01:30:49,455 --> 01:30:53,175
Speaker 5: So it's plastic that allows for a constant air gap,

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01:30:53,615 --> 01:30:56,015
Speaker 5: and you just drape that across the back of the weatherboards.

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01:30:56,055 --> 01:30:57,895
Speaker 5: Then you put your building paper on. It means that

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01:30:57,935 --> 01:31:01,495
Speaker 5: the building paper doesn't crush or the insulation doesn't push

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01:31:01,575 --> 01:31:03,815
Speaker 5: the building paper hard to the back of the weatherboard,

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01:31:04,095 --> 01:31:07,335
Speaker 5: and that allows for some ventilation. And given that there's

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01:31:07,415 --> 01:31:11,055
Speaker 5: probably air gaps in there anyway, so let's keep that

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01:31:11,175 --> 01:31:13,295
Speaker 5: air gap. Let's allow the back of the weatherboard to

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01:31:13,415 --> 01:31:15,695
Speaker 5: dry with the wind driven rain that you're talking about.

1720
01:31:15,935 --> 01:31:18,335
Speaker 5: But we can add the insulation. But if you don't

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01:31:18,455 --> 01:31:23,015
Speaker 5: know where, you're not told, or you don't have the

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01:31:23,055 --> 01:31:25,735
Speaker 5: building science to understand what you're doing, then you're going

1723
01:31:25,815 --> 01:31:28,055
Speaker 5: to get problems. And that's what you've probably seen.

1724
01:31:29,255 --> 01:31:32,855
Speaker 12: Well, you're right with the code. The actual wording in

1725
01:31:32,935 --> 01:31:37,815
Speaker 12: the code is you need a building consent to retro

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01:31:38,015 --> 01:31:41,415
Speaker 12: for insulation and the exterior walls of an existing house, yes,

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01:31:41,695 --> 01:31:45,175
Speaker 12: for weather tightenness reasons. And that's that weather tightness reasons

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01:31:46,215 --> 01:31:48,615
Speaker 12: that is the big deal. Because old house is more

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01:31:48,695 --> 01:31:51,255
Speaker 12: than twenty years old or thirty years old are not

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01:31:51,375 --> 01:31:56,375
Speaker 12: weather tight and you need that wind and air to

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01:31:57,175 --> 01:31:57,615
Speaker 12: allow to.

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01:31:58,735 --> 01:32:00,055
Speaker 2: Rate draft get dry.

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Speaker 5: That's the way it is. Hey, Shane, really appreciate your call,

1734
01:32:03,575 --> 01:32:07,175
Speaker 5: and please call again because it's it's a great conversation

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01:32:07,295 --> 01:32:09,655
Speaker 5: to have. But and look, it's one of those things.

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01:32:09,735 --> 01:32:12,775
Speaker 5: It's a is it a desperate need? It's certainly a

1737
01:32:12,815 --> 01:32:16,735
Speaker 5: fairly significant need. Right to continue to upgrade insulation in

1738
01:32:16,855 --> 01:32:19,095
Speaker 5: existing houses. We've done the easy stuff. You can get

1739
01:32:19,175 --> 01:32:21,575
Speaker 5: underneath the floor, sometimes you can get into the ceiling.

1740
01:32:22,575 --> 01:32:24,135
Speaker 5: I mean I looked at a property this week that

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01:32:24,255 --> 01:32:27,815
Speaker 5: had a skillion roof right nineteen seventies, probably no insulation

1742
01:32:27,935 --> 01:32:30,655
Speaker 5: in there. So you've got a roof that. How do

1743
01:32:30,735 --> 01:32:32,535
Speaker 5: you get insulation in there? You've got to pull the

1744
01:32:32,615 --> 01:32:34,615
Speaker 5: roof off. You've got to pull the lining off. Either way,

1745
01:32:34,655 --> 01:32:37,455
Speaker 5: it's a big job. It will make a significant difference

1746
01:32:37,495 --> 01:32:42,655
Speaker 5: to the house. Thanks Shane for that much appreciate. A

1747
01:32:42,735 --> 01:32:45,135
Speaker 5: couple of quick texts, Pete, do you know when the

1748
01:32:45,175 --> 01:32:47,495
Speaker 5: new insualation rules the government announced will be coming in?

1749
01:32:48,015 --> 01:32:50,895
Speaker 5: I don't they've announced it. I don't think it will

1750
01:32:51,015 --> 01:32:53,615
Speaker 5: take effect until the end of next year. It's about

1751
01:32:53,615 --> 01:32:56,575
Speaker 5: a twelve month period. This is for ditching the schedule

1752
01:32:56,615 --> 01:33:00,175
Speaker 5: method for H one compliance and adopting either a calculation

1753
01:33:00,335 --> 01:33:04,215
Speaker 5: or a modeling method. Halleluja your first time I've heard

1754
01:33:04,255 --> 01:33:08,255
Speaker 5: someone agree with me reinsulation and a leak from Dennis Denis.

1755
01:33:10,655 --> 01:33:14,375
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what it was that you agreed with,

1756
01:33:14,535 --> 01:33:20,495
Speaker 5: but insulation and leakage or moisture and gress into a building.

1757
01:33:20,695 --> 01:33:23,135
Speaker 5: That's why it's exempt from shed you. One of the

1758
01:33:23,135 --> 01:33:25,455
Speaker 5: act why it still requires a building consent is if

1759
01:33:25,495 --> 01:33:30,415
Speaker 5: you do it wrong, you're actually causing big problems. A

1760
01:33:30,495 --> 01:33:33,615
Speaker 5: couple of people mentioned in st.

1761
01:33:33,495 --> 01:33:34,215
Speaker 2: Max again.

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01:33:36,055 --> 01:33:38,175
Speaker 5: Read the current talk show. I'm a Wellington resident. The

1763
01:33:38,175 --> 01:33:41,375
Speaker 5: problem with recycling is they've got very specific rules. Yeah,

1764
01:33:41,575 --> 01:33:43,855
Speaker 5: so what's the problem with that. They don't pick up

1765
01:33:43,895 --> 01:33:46,415
Speaker 5: your recycling bin because the wine bottles had caps on it,

1766
01:33:46,535 --> 01:33:49,215
Speaker 5: So take the caps off or is there a plastic

1767
01:33:49,255 --> 01:33:51,855
Speaker 5: bottle that's not the approved type? Well, learn which ones

1768
01:33:51,855 --> 01:33:54,335
Speaker 5: are approved and which ones aren't. And then they end

1769
01:33:54,455 --> 01:33:56,615
Speaker 5: up throwing everything. We just end up throwing everything down

1770
01:33:56,655 --> 01:33:59,695
Speaker 5: the regular bin. Well you're lazy, So sort it out,

1771
01:34:00,095 --> 01:34:02,575
Speaker 5: figure out what they can recycle and do it properly.

1772
01:34:03,575 --> 01:34:07,695
Speaker 5: Simple it is seventy minutes after let's jump into the garden.

1773
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Speaker 2: Alrighty root climb past. A very good morning, sir, A

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01:35:39,335 --> 01:35:40,255
Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

1801
01:35:40,535 --> 01:35:42,735
Speaker 17: It's very very foggy in christ Church.

1802
01:35:43,215 --> 01:35:44,375
Speaker 14: It's beautiful here.

1803
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Speaker 17: Yeah, so I suggest that all the seventy eight point

1804
01:35:47,895 --> 01:35:52,455
Speaker 17: nine percent of people that drive cars turned their free nights.

1805
01:35:53,655 --> 01:35:55,615
Speaker 17: What anyway?

1806
01:35:55,775 --> 01:35:57,335
Speaker 5: Yes, hello, how are you people?

1807
01:35:57,815 --> 01:36:00,175
Speaker 2: I'm well that you and I both that's not.

1808
01:36:01,815 --> 01:36:04,855
Speaker 5: I started talking about recycling and waste and construction, and

1809
01:36:04,935 --> 01:36:08,575
Speaker 5: obviously I've got some fairly strong opinions about it, and

1810
01:36:09,615 --> 01:36:11,175
Speaker 5: I tell you what, that's going to be a topic

1811
01:36:11,215 --> 01:36:13,175
Speaker 5: for the show for a couple of weeks time. But

1812
01:36:13,575 --> 01:36:17,935
Speaker 5: I can imagine it is phenomenally wasteful. And I mean,

1813
01:36:17,975 --> 01:36:21,415
Speaker 5: you know, you're driven by looking to protect the environment

1814
01:36:22,615 --> 01:36:24,895
Speaker 5: from a nature point of view, and I've got a

1815
01:36:25,015 --> 01:36:27,735
Speaker 5: similar event, but from what do we do with our

1816
01:36:27,775 --> 01:36:28,575
Speaker 5: waste point of view?

1817
01:36:28,695 --> 01:36:32,855
Speaker 17: So, oh, the waste. That's totally totally correct with you

1818
01:36:33,015 --> 01:36:35,735
Speaker 17: with that. What you were talking about is absolutely important.

1819
01:36:36,095 --> 01:36:38,855
Speaker 17: And there were some really cool text messages as well,

1820
01:36:38,895 --> 01:36:39,975
Speaker 17: which I think was nice.

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Speaker 5: And look, there's options, right, there's options. There are so

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Speaker 5: many options, so that's great. Hey, look, I know we're

1823
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Speaker 5: a little bit short on time today, so let's rip

1824
01:36:48,615 --> 01:36:50,695
Speaker 5: into it. If you've got a question for it, please

1825
01:36:50,735 --> 01:36:52,735
Speaker 5: give us a call now. Eight hundred and eighty ten

1826
01:36:52,855 --> 01:36:55,615
Speaker 5: eighty is the number to call. You can flick through

1827
01:36:55,615 --> 01:36:58,375
Speaker 5: a text on nine two nine two, and Philip, A

1828
01:36:58,535 --> 01:36:59,295
Speaker 5: very good morning to you.

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01:37:00,855 --> 01:37:01,775
Speaker 7: Good morning boys.

1830
01:37:02,375 --> 01:37:07,055
Speaker 18: Hello, I have I go call when you any merry potatoes?

1831
01:37:07,575 --> 01:37:09,775
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, they have a lot they have a lot

1832
01:37:09,815 --> 01:37:12,495
Speaker 18: of eyes on them and a lot of sprouts. Yeah,

1833
01:37:13,015 --> 01:37:14,695
Speaker 18: and I get up to about a meter and a

1834
01:37:14,735 --> 01:37:18,815
Speaker 18: half above the ground of green. Should I take some

1835
01:37:18,975 --> 01:37:20,735
Speaker 18: of those eyes off before I plant them?

1836
01:37:23,375 --> 01:37:25,775
Speaker 17: I would suggest let them go up and take them

1837
01:37:25,815 --> 01:37:28,775
Speaker 17: off when you assess how many you actually want in

1838
01:37:28,855 --> 01:37:31,895
Speaker 17: the end and how well they do, you know what

1839
01:37:31,975 --> 01:37:35,255
Speaker 17: I mean. So this particular plant will probably say, look,

1840
01:37:36,615 --> 01:37:38,495
Speaker 17: this is what I can do, but not all of

1841
01:37:38,575 --> 01:37:41,575
Speaker 17: them I think would be would be great. So it's

1842
01:37:41,655 --> 01:37:44,175
Speaker 17: just one of those things. Do you do you sprout

1843
01:37:44,215 --> 01:37:45,775
Speaker 17: them above the ground or on the ground?

1844
01:37:45,815 --> 01:37:46,215
Speaker 7: What do you do?

1845
01:37:48,295 --> 01:37:49,815
Speaker 8: I spread them before planting?

1846
01:37:50,335 --> 01:37:52,335
Speaker 17: Yeah, of course, yeah, that's what I mean. So you

1847
01:37:52,415 --> 01:37:55,415
Speaker 17: can then already indicate which one is strong and which

1848
01:37:55,455 --> 01:37:56,895
Speaker 17: one works well, you know what I mean?

1849
01:37:57,895 --> 01:38:00,815
Speaker 8: Okay, right, and just what those weekly looking ones off?

1850
01:38:00,935 --> 01:38:05,575
Speaker 17: Yeah, just a sharp knave whoopie, goodbye, yep, Yeah, thank you, sir,

1851
01:38:06,815 --> 01:38:09,495
Speaker 17: have fun. Yeah, good one that I.

1852
01:38:13,935 --> 01:38:14,175
Speaker 2: Colin?

1853
01:38:14,815 --> 01:38:15,575
Speaker 5: Sorry, not Colin?

1854
01:38:15,695 --> 01:38:18,735
Speaker 7: That was that was Who was it? That was Philip?

1855
01:38:18,815 --> 01:38:19,135
Speaker 2: Philip.

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01:38:19,175 --> 01:38:22,495
Speaker 5: That's right, he's gone, he's done. He sorted it is

1857
01:38:22,815 --> 01:38:26,135
Speaker 5: no mucking around high quick text bes fertilizer for magnolia.

1858
01:38:27,175 --> 01:38:29,775
Speaker 17: Oh at the moment, I would just use a general

1859
01:38:29,855 --> 01:38:33,335
Speaker 17: fertilizer nightro Fosco blue. If you want the granular, I

1860
01:38:33,735 --> 01:38:37,895
Speaker 17: tend to use the Wait and forget sea weed.

1861
01:38:38,175 --> 01:38:40,415
Speaker 2: No seafood soup in this case, yep.

1862
01:38:40,615 --> 01:38:44,135
Speaker 17: But if they are not flowering too well, do the

1863
01:38:44,215 --> 01:38:48,975
Speaker 17: seafood seaweed tea which is contains more potash if you like,

1864
01:38:49,055 --> 01:38:50,575
Speaker 17: and that might stimulate flowering.

1865
01:38:50,855 --> 01:38:53,175
Speaker 2: Okay, brilliant, we can take short break.

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01:38:53,215 --> 01:38:55,935
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Colin in just the moment measure twice

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01:38:56,415 --> 01:38:59,855
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