1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Jason Wool's our political edises with us. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Hey, Jason, good afternoon. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Did you find anything in that pre budget speech that 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: was at all interesting? 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Not really, But I honestly think that that was probably 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: the point of it. It wasn't designed to set the 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: world on fire. It wasn't designed to really make everybody 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: sit up and think, hang on a second, I've really 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: got to pay attention on May twenty second, because there 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: could be something big in there for me. In fact, 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Chris Luxan took a bit of a page out of 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: Nikola Willis's book that Budget twenty twenty five won't be 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: a lolly scramble. So she said that last week. It's 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: not going to be a lolly scramble, and it's just 15 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: playing down expectations. The whole sort of ethos of the 16 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: government so far this year has been things are cooked. 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: The budget isn't going to be as good as we 18 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be because of the mix 19 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: of the economy and the books not being as rosy 20 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: as they thought that they would be. So I don't 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: expect any major big ticket items. And that's exactly kind 22 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: of the message that Luxen was giving today. It's the 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: exact same message that Nicola Willis was is being conveying 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: as well. There has been a little bit more, you know, 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: I say, there's not a lot of money in the budget. 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: We all know that there's a one point three billion 27 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: dollars operating allowance, a more money coming into it. But 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: there's a slightly more wiggle room now with these pay 29 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: equity changes. But we're gonna have to wait and see 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: how much that actually is. 31 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: At the budget. 32 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: It is the case that the number of new initiatives 33 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: and this budget would not have been possible without some 34 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: of the savings we are making. 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Jason, it's more than ten billion, isn't it. Have you 36 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: managed to confirm that yet? 37 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: Well? I read Audrey Young's piece this morning, and those 38 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: are the numbers that she was doing. What she was saying, well, 39 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: she was basically looking back into previous budgets and talking 40 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: about how much it costed in previous years in terms 41 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: of what was against sort of the pay equity claims there, 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: and how much it would be going forward. I'm just 43 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: looking at the numbers now from Audrey and she says 44 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: that the numbers going forward are in Just give me 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: two seconds here, Audrey. She says, right, She says that 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: in last year's budget, the figure for the current year 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: was three point seven billion, followed by four point six 48 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: billion for the next year, four point three for the 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: following and then four point three. That's about seventeen billion 50 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: dollars over four years, is what she said. 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that is huge, isn't It's a. 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: Lot of change. 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: I take your point about lux and doing boring economic 54 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: speeches and that that it's designed to kind of, you know, 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: underwhelm and stuff. But surely, surely he wants to do 56 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: Surely today was an opportunity to say something to take 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: the headlines back from the pay equity thing, which continues 58 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: for day three and which is going to kick off 59 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: tomorrow with protests, right, wouldn't you Yeah? 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: I mean yeah you could. There could have been something 61 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: in there that would help shift the narrative. I think 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: that he thought that that was what was going to 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: happen with the social media ban, which was absolutely a 64 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: dead squib because obviously it was a members bill rather 65 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: than a government bill, which ultimately has got what one 66 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: in forty five one and fifty chants have actually been 67 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: pulled from the ballot. So you know, he could have 68 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: done something big today to shift the narrative, but he's 69 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: obviously decided that he wants to sort of keep things cool, 70 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: calm and collected as it were for the budget. 71 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Listen that right track wrong track thing in the Taxpayers 72 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Union Curio poll. Do we know what's what that's down to? 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: The right track wrong track? We can. It's it's an 74 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: interesting one because you know, it focuses quite a lot 75 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: on the political party. But the right track wrong track 76 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: is something that has been in focus for a while. 77 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: So we'll get those that information to you as we 78 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: have it. I think my colleague Sophie Trigger has been 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: about that all day or since we got the numbers 80 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: coming out. But in terms of the numbers itself, I mean, 81 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Labor Party is up quite substantially. We seeing them jump 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: about three point four points to thirty three point two percent. 83 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: This hasn't come at a time when the pay equity 84 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: stuff has been in the news. This was for covering 85 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: April thirtieth to May fourth, So we're not going that 86 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: doesn't be it's not reflected in here. We're gonna have 87 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: to wait a little bit to see what impact it's 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: going to have. But if I was a Polster I'd 89 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: be out on the field now looking exactly at that. 90 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Jason, Thanks very much, mate, appreciate it. That's 91 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Jason Wall's News talk Z'B political editor. For more from 92 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News talks 'B 93 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.