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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b Start your weekend off the

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Speaker 2: Yard and New Zealand. Good morning, twenty twenty six. Here

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Speaker 2: we go. It is so good to be here, so

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Speaker 2: good to be here, so good to be back, so

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Speaker 2: good to be back on Saturday Mornings with you. I

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Speaker 2: have missed the show. I've missed us over the summer break.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, feeling refreshed, rejuvenated, excited for the year ahead.

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Speaker 2: And boy do we have a great show to kick

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Speaker 2: off twenty twenty six for you this morning. A fantastic show.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't make it to Edd Sharing last night,

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Speaker 2: you're not heading along to his second show at Mount

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Speaker 2: Smart Stadium this evening, Go Media Stadium, I think they

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Speaker 2: call it. Don't worry, We've got the next best thing.

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Speaker 2: We will take you there this morning. As well as that,

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Speaker 2: from one international music sensation to another, we're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at Don mcglashan's new film, This extraordinary film anchor me

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Speaker 2: The Don McGlashan Story, as it hits cinemas this morning

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Speaker 2: as well, and after ten o'clock this morning our feature interview,

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Speaker 2: our first of the new year. Josh Emmett kiwi chef Legend,

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Speaker 2: is going to be with us. He has so many

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Speaker 2: fingers and so many pies from his restaurant empire, although

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he wouldn't describe it to that as that

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Speaker 2: to his new role with sale GP, So he's going

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Speaker 2: to explain a little bit more about that when he

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Speaker 2: joins us after ten o'clock this morning. Right now it

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Speaker 2: is eight minutes past nine. I have done my best,

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Speaker 2: as I always do over the summer period, to avoid

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Speaker 2: the headlines over the last few weeks, turn the notifications

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Speaker 2: on my phone off, which is an amazing feeling, a

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Speaker 2: little bit anxiety inducing it first, but it soon comes round.

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Speaker 2: That being said, for as much as I have enjoyed

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Speaker 2: time with the family, time on the beach, Scott robertson

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Speaker 2: being booted from the All Blacks snap me right back

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Speaker 2: every single article and look. I feel for him, man,

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Speaker 2: I really feel for him, just as I did for

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Speaker 2: Ian Foster last time round. These guys are in high

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Speaker 2: profile jobs coaching high performance athletes. All top coaches know

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Speaker 2: that it is a perilous business, but to be cut

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Speaker 2: after just two years in the job and after a

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Speaker 2: period of inconsistent and occasionally very poor but not absolutely

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Speaker 2: catastrophic results, I think we'll leave Razor and his keenest

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Speaker 2: supporters forever wondering what might have been now. Look, I

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Speaker 2: don't have any inside running on the process or the

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Speaker 2: review that led to David Kirk in New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 2: swinging the acts, but it occurs to me that one

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Speaker 2: of Scott Robertson's biggest errors was one of his first

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Speaker 2: major decisions in the role. I keep coming back to this,

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Speaker 2: and over the last few days I've been wondering to

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Speaker 2: what extent it ultimately set the tone for his tenure

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Speaker 2: as All Blacks coach. June twenty fourth, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks were preparing for their midyear tests against

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Speaker 2: England and Fiji and Scott Robertson named the man who

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Speaker 2: and not because I don't think he's an outstanding leader,

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Speaker 2: and he isn't just deserving of the All Backs Captaincy.

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Speaker 2: All of those things are true, but because for anyone

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Speaker 2: But surely coaching the national team meant other factors should

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Speaker 2: Surely Captain c carries different responsibilities in different sports, and

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Speaker 2: If I can see it, the rest of the players

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Speaker 2: What did that say to the team?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but maybe Scott Robertson's mistake

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Speaker 2: back to this single point. I think that one decision

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Speaker 2: having worked for so many years to win the job,

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Speaker 2: just like that, Scott Robertson's opportunity is gone. Jack Tam

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Speaker 2: ninety two. Ninety two is our text number if you

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Speaker 2: would like to send us a message this morning, don't

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Speaker 2: forget the standard text costs apply. You can email me

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Speaker 2: as well, Jack at newstalksb dot co dot nz. And

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you about my treat of the summer,

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Speaker 2: my trip of the summer. Very shortly, Kevin Melonin's gonna

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Speaker 2: kick us off for our morning together next Right now

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Speaker 2: it is quarter past nine, I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty six, baby, this is Newstalksz'd.

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Speaker 1: Be no better way to kick off your weekend then

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Speaker 1: seventeen past nine.

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Speaker 2: So good to be back, Patsy is Jack Welcome back

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Speaker 2: spot on this morning. Jack, I've missed your dalcet tones.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Great to have you here, Jack here

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Speaker 2: here totally agree with you this morning.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 2: If the if Ardie is the only one good enough

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Speaker 2: to make a World fifteen, doesn't that just show you

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Speaker 2: that the all back team is just not that good

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Speaker 2: and that perhaps actually the coach doesn't matter at this

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Speaker 2: point in time. I don't know. I would say that

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Speaker 2: you can make exactly the opposite argument, couldn't you can't

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Speaker 2: you say only if Artie's currently the only player making

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Speaker 2: ever so we can get more out of our players.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two to ninety two is our text number Jacket Newstalks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be dot co dot Hen's. Yet again, this is

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Speaker 2: honestly just no reflection on Scott Barrett. I actually I

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Speaker 2: feel sorry for Scott Barrett because I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: I just think he's an extraordinary rugby player and from

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Speaker 2: all accounts, an excellent, excellent leader. But I just I

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Speaker 2: and I think it kind of set the tone for

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Speaker 2: his tenure. Anyway, let me know what you think. Eighteen

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Golder, Kevin, Good morning, Kiota.

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Speaker 4: Now, now, did I hear on the news before this

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Speaker 4: show Donald Trump say he deserved to be the Nobel

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Speaker 4: Peace Prize winner more than anyone else in the history.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but if he did, I mean, that

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Speaker 4: The guy's made I'm sorry'.

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Speaker 2: Well that's gonna lie up. I mean, look, he yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure that that

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Speaker 2: of thing that the Nobel Committee Prize Committee is going

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Speaker 2: the next Nobel Peace Prize. But look, we wait and see,

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Speaker 2: you know, very interesting times, very interesting times, Kevin. I

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Speaker 2: hope you've had a good start to twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: and a nice summer so far.

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Speaker 6: No good to hear, and well, the summer was awful

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Speaker 6: down here, but we went up to Mount Manganui for

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Speaker 6: a while, and the Mount Manganoy what place when rid

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Speaker 6: in the peak of summer. Yeah, it is just superb

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. It's picturesque and and that beach,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh superb, isn't it?

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Speaker 6: I mean I live on the beach down here, but

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Speaker 6: it makes the speech for pretty ordinary to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, there's there's something

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Speaker 2: to be said for the sand color, isn't there And

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Speaker 2: not having to go at the carpety ghost. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you're at the mount, it is at the next level,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? And next level and as well as a

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Speaker 2: bit of beach time given a heavy weight has just

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Speaker 6: Yes, it was cause for much celebration, actually, Jack, For

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Speaker 6: the last couple of years, I've been running dangerously close

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Speaker 6: Now it wasn't that reckless. I'd been caught doing eighty

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Speaker 3: But the thing was I already.

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Speaker 6: Had twenty demerit points for speeding, and shortly after copped

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, says Dean. Thanks for that. I'll get

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Speaker 3: The players feel it every day we're in there on camp.

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Speaker 3: Action needed to be taken. Ardie Savia has incorrectly been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit of a sorry episode. Really, So what

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Speaker 3: There needs to be a huge reset because, let's face it,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Sev, I don't know about you, but when

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Speaker 2: No, I don't believe it for a moment. Come on,

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Speaker 2: what what's your treat of the summer?

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Speaker 3: Gee whiz, I've had some magnificent trifles and a chocolate moose.

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Speaker 3: Have have some wriggle room, Have some wriggle room for Christmas?

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Speaker 3: It never really happens. And that wriggle room just goes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly, very good. So great to chat. We

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Speaker 2: will catch you again very soon. Andrew sevilasport over us

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Speaker 2: this morning. My treat of the summer, even though I

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Speaker 2: But my treat of the summer electric cherries. So my

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Speaker 2: You know, electric cherries. They come from an orchard in

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Speaker 2: Cromwell and Central Tago where they just use solar power

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Speaker 2: and electric stuff to harvest the cherries. But even if

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Speaker 2: you're not into that, the cherries themselves are just extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: And I swear I'm not being paid to say this.

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Speaker 2: They are like they When they arrived and I opened

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Speaker 2: the box, the cherry on top was honestly the size

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Speaker 2: of an apple. It was the size of my fist.

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00:24:27,613 --> 00:24:29,533
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. And just that, and you know

438
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Speaker 2: how like you can tell a good cherry because the

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Speaker 2: skin is super super super tight, Like it almost looked

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Speaker 2: like it's about to explode because it's so full of

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Speaker 2: cherry juiciness. That's what they're like. So anyway, my wife

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Speaker 2: and I eating the cherries took two days to get

443
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Speaker 2: through two kilograms of cherries, just she and I working together.

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Speaker 2: That is my treat of the summer. And going to

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Speaker 2: tell you about my trip of the summer very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's twenty four to ten. Your film picks

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Speaker 2: for the weekend. Next on news Talks, you'd be.

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Speaker 8: Don't know.

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Speaker 9: What a new sugar.

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Speaker 4: That is.

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Speaker 2: Harry Styles. His fans have been patient. They've been waiting

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Speaker 2: one thousand, three hundred and thirty six days, but the

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Speaker 2: wait is finally over. Harry's announced he is returning to

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Speaker 2: music with his fourth album. Intriguingly, it is called Kiss

455
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Speaker 2: All the Time Disco Occasionally, So yeah, I don't really

456
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Speaker 2: know what to read into that. Anyway, it drops on

457
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Speaker 2: March six, so we're going to be hearing a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of Harry Styles over the next couple of months

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Speaker 2: twenty one to ten on News Storks, he'd be our

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Speaker 2: film review of Francesca Rudkin is here with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning year, Happy new Year. You've just

462
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Speaker 2: been slaving away, on slaving away. Some of us take

463
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Speaker 2: a nice summer's break, some of us just you know.

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Speaker 10: I had a little break and I'm going to take

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Speaker 10: another one.

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Speaker 5: Don't you worry.

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Speaker 2: I'm well looked after two films for us this morning,

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Speaker 2: quite different ones. Let's begin with a little Listen to Hamnet.

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Speaker 9: He's got more inside of him than any man I've had, Mack.

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Speaker 2: Who are you looking for, William Shakespeare? I have no

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Speaker 2: talent to waiting.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is Starr in Jesse Buckley all less scale.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about Hamnett.

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Speaker 10: I think a lot of people will have heard the

476
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Speaker 10: name of this film. It's just been released in New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: It was nominated for six Golden Globes, won Best Performance

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Speaker 10: by a Female Actor in Emotion Picture Drama for Jesse Buckley,

479
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Speaker 10: and also Best Motion Picture Drama. I wasn't hugely surprised

480
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Speaker 10: by that. She is absolutely stunning in this film, and

481
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Speaker 10: it is a really exquisite film. Chloe Joe is the director.

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Speaker 10: She did Nomadland.

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Speaker 2: I Don't Have a Friend of the shaf.

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Speaker 10: It's an adaptation of Maggie O'Farrell's twenty twenty novel when

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Speaker 10: it tells the story of William Shakespeare's family and impact

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Speaker 10: on them of the loss of a child, and what

487
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Speaker 10: they've kind of done here is it's part truth but

488
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Speaker 10: largely imagined.

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Speaker 4: So what.

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Speaker 10: Jao and O'Farrell do is imagine that the writing of

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Speaker 10: the play Hamlet was a way for Shakespeare to deal

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Speaker 10: with his grief of the loss of his son. But

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Speaker 10: actually the film is more focused on Shakespeare's wife, Agnes Hathaway,

494
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Speaker 10: and it does start as a love story before we

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Speaker 10: kind of get to this tragedy. It is a story

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Speaker 10: of love and loss and motherhood and art and the

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Speaker 10: need for storytelling in order for us to grieve and

498
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Speaker 10: hold ourselves together in difficult times, to process and understand life.

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Speaker 10: I think Jao is an absolutely remarkable director. I think

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Speaker 10: she's a very compassionate observer. Is the way I would

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Speaker 10: kind of describe what she always gives us. She manages

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Speaker 10: to really get to the heart of what a character

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Speaker 10: is experiencing and feeling and you know, we start, as

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Speaker 10: I said, with this love story, and then we have

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Speaker 10: this tragedy, and we had this grief, and this film

506
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Speaker 10: just builds and builds to a point where there's this

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Speaker 10: sort of explosive emotional ending and it's pretty much impossible

508
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Speaker 10: not to get wrapped up in it. It really is exquisite.

509
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Speaker 10: She's everything she does is considered. The cinematography is considered,

510
00:28:24,253 --> 00:28:27,453
Speaker 10: the costumes, the art direction. We felt like she has

511
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Speaker 10: a very naturalistic take. You can see the dirt under

512
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Speaker 10: their nails. You know, you get the get She tries

513
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Speaker 10: to present you with this truth that at the same

514
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Speaker 10: time she'll then present you with something extremely poetic as well.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. Okay, cool. So that is Hamnet that

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Speaker 2: is showing in cinemas at the moment. Next up, something

517
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Speaker 2: completely different, a documentary. This is Anchor Me, the Don

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Speaker 2: McGlashan story. Please Welcome to the stage.

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Speaker 11: Oh I then lost her words, which doesn't happen very often.

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Speaker 2: The Manion Road is family under is the master of

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Speaker 2: putting a lyric together. Come from Man and another friend

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Speaker 2: of the show of course, Dom Mglass.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and look. This is a film by documentary maker

524
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Speaker 10: Shirley Horricks, and she's done a really fabulous job. But

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Speaker 10: I think the first thing that she did that's really

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Speaker 10: impressive is actually get Don to agree to be the

527
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Speaker 10: subject of the documentary because he loves to talk about songwriting.

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Speaker 10: He loves to talk about music and things, but he's

529
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Speaker 10: not actually really he doesn't really enjoy talking about himself.

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Speaker 10: He's a humble Kiwi in that kind of respect. So

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Speaker 10: that's the other great reason that she actually got the

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Speaker 10: film made is that you learn so much about him,

533
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Speaker 10: and he does talk about himself and his family and

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Speaker 10: his love of music and sort of a lot more.

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Speaker 10: You hear a lot more about his life than things,

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Speaker 10: which kind of, you know, helps you sort of understand

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Speaker 10: this portrait of a very unique creative personality. I think

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Speaker 10: the film documents a really significant period of music and

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Speaker 10: culture in New Zealand's history. And for me, you know,

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Speaker 10: I was a bit too young for some of his

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Speaker 10: younger that he was involved in, but he's very much

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Speaker 10: part of sort of the musical landscape for me. So

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Speaker 10: I just loved watching this film and and going on

544
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Speaker 10: this ride, not not just the music, with the fashion

545
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Speaker 10: and the times, everything it all, it all comes together.

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Speaker 5: Gether so beautifully.

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Speaker 10: And he has had an extraordinary life, and he he's

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Speaker 10: been adventurous and brave, and it's been an interesting and

549
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Speaker 10: fulfilling and rewarding life. And and I learned a lot more.

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Speaker 10: I thought I kind of understood everything he'd been involved

551
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Speaker 10: in as a solo artist with his film work with it,

552
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Speaker 10: but I didn't quite realize how, you know, how many

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Speaker 10: instruments he could play.

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Speaker 9: It really is fabulous.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he when't he playing something like and I'm saying

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Speaker 2: this the context being that I grew up as a

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Speaker 2: trombone player, So I just like that he did lots

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Speaker 2: of percussion, was something like super uncol like a euphonium

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Speaker 2: or a French horn or something.

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Speaker 10: It was, yeah, yeah, but there's very little he can't play.

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Speaker 2: No, it's basically and it gives him. I mean, you

562
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Speaker 2: can actually hear it in the music himself.

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Speaker 10: I feel like he can pick up coming up and

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Speaker 10: he can work it out and it's just you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, very good. I'm looking forward to seeing this,

566
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Speaker 2: really looking forward to seeing this. So that is anchor

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Speaker 2: me the Don McGlashan story that is showing in select cinemas.

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Speaker 2: Francisca's first film was Hamnet that showing all over the place,

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Speaker 2: and all the deets for those movies will be up

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Speaker 2: on the News Talks. He'd be website.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack Team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend.

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Speaker 9: The news Talks, he'd be.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen ten On News Talks, he'd be don't forget after

575
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock. How we've got your screen time picks for

576
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Speaker 2: this weekend, including a review of Ricky Gerves's Mortality special

577
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Speaker 2: that is screening on Netflix at the moment. He won

578
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Speaker 2: what a Golden Globe for it the other day. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, as a huge Ricky as fan, a huge

580
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Speaker 2: office fan, a huge extras fan, I just feel like

581
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Speaker 2: his stand up over the last couple of years has

582
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Speaker 2: not kind of been quite as good. But that's just

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Speaker 2: my take. Anyway, We're going to give you our screen

584
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Speaker 2: time experts thoughts on Mortality as in the show, not

585
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Speaker 2: the concept. After After ten o'clock this morning, Nicki works out.

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Speaker 2: Cook is here with us this morning for the first

587
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Speaker 2: time in twenty twenty six. Happy New Year. Nikki I

588
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Speaker 2: said that my treat of the summer was a box

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Speaker 2: of red electric cherries from Central Otago. Premium export grade cheeries.

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Speaker 2: They're just so good, so so fantastic, but just enormous

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Speaker 2: as well, like just sort of comically large. And you

592
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Speaker 2: know how cheeries have that quality where they with the

593
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Speaker 2: skin gets really tight. That's how you know, like a

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Speaker 2: red cheerries really really good. Oh my gosh, I just

595
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Speaker 2: it's they just talk. Oh, it's like a drum. It's

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Speaker 2: like a you know, like just anyway.

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Speaker 12: I know, Hey, I used to date a beautiful orchardist

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Speaker 12: at one stage in my life and I learned that

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Speaker 12: I know, and I learned the cherries, uh he used

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Speaker 12: to call them, and I loved this. He said that

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Speaker 12: there stallions of the fruit because they they blossom last

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Speaker 12: and they fruit first.

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Speaker 2: Ah, which is amazing.

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Speaker 12: You have released in Central Otago. Then I love the

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Speaker 12: Central Otago cherries to me. They are so so good

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Speaker 12: and yeah, real treats of summer, like BlackBerry, which is

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Speaker 12: what we're talking about today. And I have a BlackBerry

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Speaker 12: farm up the road from me here in Port Waikatta,

609
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Speaker 12: and so I can go and buy kind of relatively

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Speaker 12: slightly cheaper freeh blackberries. But they're so huge, they're absolutely massive,

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Speaker 12: and I just absolutely adore them to me, they're real treats.

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Speaker 2: No, I totally agree, I reckon. I actually think that

613
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Speaker 2: BlackBerry is our most underrated berry.

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Speaker 4: Oh you do think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think. I think they're so delicious, and

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Speaker 2: we always talk about our blueberries and cheeries.

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Speaker 12: But you know, my god, yea, well, I think we

618
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Speaker 12: all have memories of following them and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 12: The commercial ones that they're bringing.

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Speaker 4: Out are huge.

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Speaker 12: They've sort of got the size of a boisoberry on

622
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Speaker 12: but that beautiful BlackBerry taste, which I think is really

623
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Speaker 12: really unique.

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Speaker 1: But they are a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Pricey, so I do have to still use them kind

626
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Speaker 12: of spearingly. So after the summer, I am sick of

627
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Speaker 12: cooking for large swathes of people, I'll be honest, And

628
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Speaker 12: so now I'm making just's for one. So I turned

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Speaker 12: to More from a Quiet Kitchen, my second book about

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Speaker 12: cooking for one, and I am sharing with us today

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Speaker 12: BlackBerry and apple gallet. A gallet is that rustic pastry

632
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Speaker 12: pie that's not quite It doesn't have a lid on it,

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Speaker 12: just the sides are folded in on some sort of

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Speaker 12: bubbling fruit in the middle, and it's so beautiful and

635
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Speaker 12: it's so easy, and I'm going to really encourage people

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Speaker 12: to make their own pastry for this and don't tune out, folks,

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00:34:32,373 --> 00:34:35,373
Speaker 12: don't tune out, because when you're making this small tart,

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Speaker 12: I'm talking about two tablespoons of chilled butter, I'm talking

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Speaker 12: about two heat tablespoons of plain flour. I'm talking about

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Speaker 12: half a tablespoon of sugar, and all that just goes

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Speaker 12: into a food process. Wiz wiz, pulsing it until you've

642
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Speaker 12: got these kind of coarse crumbs, and then drizzle start

643
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Speaker 12: drizzling in some ice cold water. Start with two tablespoons,

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Speaker 12: Pulse it again and a little bit more. And then

645
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Speaker 12: when you can pinch the crumbs and they stick together,

646
00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:02,813
Speaker 12: that's when it's done. Turn it out, roll it into

647
00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:05,133
Speaker 12: a ball, flatten it into a disc, and you've just

648
00:35:05,173 --> 00:35:08,893
Speaker 12: got it. You just got an little handful. It's beautiful.

649
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Speaker 9: Chill it down for.

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Speaker 12: Thirty minutes or not, but I like to chill it down,

651
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Speaker 12: especially in this warm weather. And in the meantime, what

652
00:35:15,093 --> 00:35:17,973
Speaker 12: I do is whack my oven on two hundred degrees celsius,

653
00:35:18,053 --> 00:35:21,053
Speaker 12: line a tray with some baking paper, and then toss

654
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Speaker 12: the fruit. And here's the fruit that I'm using in

655
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Speaker 12: this just one.

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00:35:24,053 --> 00:35:25,453
Speaker 2: Cup, well, really a large apple.

657
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Speaker 12: I've said a cup of peeled and diced apple, but

658
00:35:27,493 --> 00:35:30,253
Speaker 12: it's a large Granny Smith if you like, a good

659
00:35:30,373 --> 00:35:33,533
Speaker 12: half a cup or a chip if you like, of blackberries,

660
00:35:34,133 --> 00:35:37,853
Speaker 12: tablespoon of sugar, tablespoon of flour, and there too. It's

661
00:35:37,893 --> 00:35:39,813
Speaker 12: going to kind of help these help it sort of

662
00:35:39,853 --> 00:35:43,693
Speaker 12: meld together. Good tablespoon of vanilla extract. You and I

663
00:35:43,813 --> 00:35:46,893
Speaker 12: we know about this. Jack, don't worry bother about the

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Speaker 12: tea spoon. Just go all out because blackberries, apple, vanilla,

665
00:35:51,253 --> 00:35:55,533
Speaker 12: theya each other very much. Juice and zest of half

666
00:35:55,533 --> 00:35:58,533
Speaker 12: a lemon or an orange, if that's more handy. But

667
00:35:58,573 --> 00:36:01,653
Speaker 12: that just kind of helps macerate all of these fruit together.

668
00:36:02,053 --> 00:36:04,973
Speaker 12: And so while the pastry is chilling, that's kind of

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Speaker 12: the acid's going to.

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Speaker 13: Work its ma on the fruit.

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Speaker 12: It's going to get a little bit juicy. Take the

672
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Speaker 12: pastry out, roll it out into a rustic circle sort

673
00:36:13,373 --> 00:36:16,853
Speaker 12: of twenty two to twenty four centimeters, and put that

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Speaker 12: on your lined tray. Pile all the fruit in the center,

675
00:36:21,053 --> 00:36:22,493
Speaker 12: and you want to leave a really big rim of

676
00:36:22,493 --> 00:36:25,453
Speaker 12: about four to five centimeters round the edge. And then

677
00:36:25,613 --> 00:36:29,933
Speaker 12: carefully fold and pleat, kind of pinching as you go over,

678
00:36:29,973 --> 00:36:32,293
Speaker 12: so that I've put a nice photograph up for you,

679
00:36:33,173 --> 00:36:35,453
Speaker 12: so that you've got it. Comes to halfway over the fruit.

680
00:36:35,813 --> 00:36:37,693
Speaker 12: Dot the fruit with a bit more butter. Maybe your

681
00:36:37,693 --> 00:36:39,853
Speaker 12: tablespoon of butter is sort of chopped up into little bits.

682
00:36:40,133 --> 00:36:42,733
Speaker 12: Brush the edges with a bit of milk. Sprinkle over

683
00:36:42,773 --> 00:36:45,453
Speaker 12: a bit of extra sugar on that pastry that's got

684
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Speaker 12: the milk on it. Bake it for say thirty five

685
00:36:48,133 --> 00:36:50,973
Speaker 12: forty minutes, jack until the pastry will be really brown,

686
00:36:51,693 --> 00:36:53,653
Speaker 12: the root will all be sort of bubbling in the middle.

687
00:36:54,613 --> 00:36:57,653
Speaker 12: It'll be a nice crisp base on it. Serve it

688
00:36:57,693 --> 00:36:59,773
Speaker 12: with some ice cream and whipped cream, and you have

689
00:36:59,933 --> 00:37:04,493
Speaker 12: just got a heavenly little BlackBerry delight. It's just absolutely

690
00:37:04,533 --> 00:37:06,773
Speaker 12: fragrant and gorgeous, and I love us.

691
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Speaker 2: It sounds amazing. Yeah, stretch it to two people, But

692
00:37:11,373 --> 00:37:14,253
Speaker 2: why would you do that? Don't don't you know?

693
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Speaker 12: Yeah, but it's just so nice, And I just want

694
00:37:18,173 --> 00:37:21,893
Speaker 12: to remind everyone we are in summer. Please enjoy this

695
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Speaker 12: while it lasts, with all the berries, all the stone fruit,

696
00:37:25,213 --> 00:37:28,053
Speaker 12: all the everything. Because you can even get a bit

697
00:37:28,093 --> 00:37:30,053
Speaker 12: sick of it at this time. But remember, have you

698
00:37:30,093 --> 00:37:32,733
Speaker 12: had enough sweet cord, have you had enough frees? You know,

699
00:37:33,173 --> 00:37:35,293
Speaker 12: because they will be gone at some point, so this

700
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Speaker 12: is the time to be eating fresh.

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Speaker 2: We just get we just got our first apricots the

702
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Speaker 2: other day. Yeah, yeah, I know they're still and they're

703
00:37:44,013 --> 00:37:46,613
Speaker 2: still quite tart. Yeah, but you know, I just so

704
00:37:46,773 --> 00:37:50,413
Speaker 2: maybe a couple more weeks I think might be there.

705
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Speaker 12: Weeks I think for the apricots. And also you can

706
00:37:52,613 --> 00:37:54,693
Speaker 12: you can warm them through. If you warm them through

707
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Speaker 12: some of that time, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't mind the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you

709
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Speaker 2: so much. That sounds amazing. That sounds incredible and a

710
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Speaker 2: bit of me And and like you say, with that pastry,

711
00:38:07,413 --> 00:38:09,533
Speaker 2: when it's as simple as that, there's no excuse not

712
00:38:09,573 --> 00:38:11,413
Speaker 2: to make it yourself. We will make sure that recipe

713
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Speaker 2: is on the news Talk zb website six to ten.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

715
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Speaker 1: know Saturday Morning with Jack team news talk ZTV.

716
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Speaker 2: And Ned has flipped me an email this morning. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back for the new year. We've

719
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Speaker 2: missed you over the summer break, and I hope you

720
00:38:29,893 --> 00:38:32,733
Speaker 2: had a good holiday with your family absolutely nailed it

721
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Speaker 2: with your comments on the All Backs captaincy this morning.

722
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Speaker 2: We'll be interesting to see if Ardie takes over under

723
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Speaker 2: a new coach. Thanks for that, appreciate it. Ninety two

724
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Speaker 2: ninety two. If you want to send us a message,

725
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Speaker 2: I'll get to more of your feedback after ten o'clock

726
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Speaker 2: this morning as well. And don't forget our feature interview

727
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Speaker 2: right after the ten o'clock news key we culinary legend

728
00:38:51,413 --> 00:38:55,213
Speaker 2: Josh Emmett is going to be with us. He is,

729
00:38:55,453 --> 00:38:57,613
Speaker 2: he's had an amazing career. He runs all sorts of

730
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Speaker 2: amazing restaurants and he has an amazing new job with

731
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Speaker 2: Sale GP, so he's going to explain a little bit

732
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Speaker 2: more about that. After ten o'clock we have your screen

733
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Speaker 2: time picks for the weekend if you're looking forward to

734
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Speaker 2: a little bit of extra time on the couch as well.

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Speaker 2: News is next. Note it's almost ten o'clock. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: It's Saturday morning. It's so good to be back. This

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Speaker 2: is Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack Tame.

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Speaker 1: News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 2: Good Morning Give with Jack Tame on Newstalk's edb through

741
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Speaker 2: the midday today and I guess this morning is keiwe

742
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Speaker 2: culinary legend Josh Emmett. He has worked as culinary magic

743
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Speaker 2: in the restaurants of Gordon Ramsey and earned an incredible

744
00:40:03,053 --> 00:40:06,453
Speaker 2: four Michelin stars before returning home to New Zealand and

745
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Speaker 2: establishing iconic restaurants like Guilt and The Oyster in There

746
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Speaker 2: is no doubt in Josh's part in shaping our country's

747
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Speaker 2: modern dining and this year he has a very special

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Speaker 2: role as sale GP's culinary collaborator responsible for showcasing the

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Speaker 2: incredible food we have to the tens of thousands of

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Speaker 2: spectators who are expected to descend on Auckland for the event.

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Speaker 2: Josh Emmett is with us in studio. Good morning, Happy

752
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Speaker 2: New Year.

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Speaker 5: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well. Thank you. Tell us what a culinary

755
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Speaker 2: collaborator for sale GP actually does well.

756
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Speaker 14: I've overseen the Adrenaline Lounge, which is the lounge for

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Speaker 14: I Guess Corporate's VIPs under the big stand.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect you to be anywhere else but with

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Speaker 2: the vopiece.

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Speaker 14: No, it'll be you know, it's Russell Coots's thing. And

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Speaker 14: there's a stand above with about ten thousand people in it.

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Speaker 14: It is smack bang in front of the you know,

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Speaker 14: the sailing. Yeah, it is so much fun. I've got

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Speaker 14: a ringside seat pretty much there. So I'm cooking a

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Speaker 14: few dishes, some amazing food. I work with a great

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Speaker 14: catering company who I've worked with on many other projects

767
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Speaker 14: like this, and we're just going to deliver some excellence.

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Speaker 2: Oh how good. It's a bit of an opportunity to

769
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Speaker 2: celebrate New Zealand Day, Like everything about the event is

770
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to celebrate New Zealand. So what kind of

771
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Speaker 2: dishes are you looking at?

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Speaker 14: Well, I've got I actually I've got a tomato dish

773
00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:30,253
Speaker 14: up my sleeve because I love the tomatoes a spectacular

774
00:41:30,253 --> 00:41:34,373
Speaker 14: at this time of year, with a gaspaccio style sauce.

775
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Speaker 14: Bit of seaweed through the tomato dish as well. Actually,

776
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Speaker 14: people seaweed which is really lovely and pungent. I'm thinking

777
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Speaker 14: of bringing back Crayfisher clears. That was where my mind

778
00:41:43,573 --> 00:41:47,693
Speaker 14: went because people just go crazy for them. So but

779
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Speaker 14: I'm still scheming. I'm in the scheming phase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I mean, like I say, it is

781
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Speaker 2: a huge kind of celebration. Are you someone who's into saling? Usually, yeah,

782
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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 14: You know, what I'm probably most impressed with with what

784
00:42:01,413 --> 00:42:04,573
Speaker 14: I saw last year was the fact that they you know,

785
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Speaker 14: got and built it incredible stadium right on the side

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Speaker 14: of the on the side of the water.

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Speaker 5: You know, pretty much on it.

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Speaker 14: You know, sometimes I feel in New Zealand that they

789
00:42:14,373 --> 00:42:17,133
Speaker 14: don't get those things over the line, and and you know,

790
00:42:18,173 --> 00:42:20,373
Speaker 14: when you see it happen, you're like, why aren't we

791
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Speaker 14: doing more of this? You know, this is this is

792
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:24,933
Speaker 14: what the city is. The cities there to celebrate, put

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Speaker 14: on events, put on music, sailing, all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 14: And it's a great time of year in Auckland because

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Speaker 14: I think sometimes a few of the Aucklanders move away.

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Speaker 14: It's generally quite settled, you know, they're off at their

797
00:42:37,253 --> 00:42:39,053
Speaker 14: beach houses. So it's a really nice time to be

798
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Speaker 14: in Auckland, easy to get around, and with things like

799
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Speaker 14: sale GP, it drives you know, local tourists and international

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Speaker 14: tourists back into the city.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's so nice to to focus the

803
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Speaker 2: region's attention on the White Matar and to have action

804
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Speaker 2: in the harbor, like racing in the Harbor, especially sale

805
00:42:58,213 --> 00:43:01,013
Speaker 2: GP where the racing is so fast and furious. But

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Speaker 2: to really celebrate what is the duel of kind of

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Speaker 2: of the Auckland region one.

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Speaker 14: Hundred percent agree boating and boating out there. We've got

809
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Speaker 14: thousands of yachts and boats and when they all get

810
00:43:11,453 --> 00:43:13,453
Speaker 14: out on the water or on land, it's it's it's

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Speaker 14: just a glorious place to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how do you how do you manage the

813
00:43:16,293 --> 00:43:18,053
Speaker 2: juggle at the moment, because it feels to me like

814
00:43:18,093 --> 00:43:21,613
Speaker 2: you are kind of spinning plates and you've got thingers

815
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Speaker 2: and lots of different pies, so to speak. But how

816
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Speaker 2: do you how do you kind of manage it?

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Speaker 14: Well, Helen, my my wife and I we have three restaurants.

818
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Speaker 14: We have Onslow Guilt, which are both in the city,

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Speaker 14: and then we have the Oyster in on Wahki Island.

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Speaker 14: I think, you know, we've all we all know what

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Speaker 14: the last five six years has been like. I think

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Speaker 14: for the last eighteen months for us, we have never

823
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Speaker 14: been busier. We haven't really taken a break in the

824
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Speaker 14: last eighteen months. Last year was hard, but you know,

825
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Speaker 14: we've had we've had a we had a great winter

826
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Speaker 14: this year and that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: What do you put that down to.

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Speaker 14: I just think it's a turn in the economy. I

829
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Speaker 14: think there's our clientele has been around, you know, our

830
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Speaker 14: spind beheads been great, our you know, we've we've had

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Speaker 14: a healthy old time, but we have worked incredibly hard

832
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Speaker 14: at it. And for once, I feel like we're in control.

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00:44:14,733 --> 00:44:17,133
Speaker 14: You know, we had a great run into Christmas and

834
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Speaker 14: all that sort of thing, so we don't feel like

835
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Speaker 14: we're sort of constantly getting slapped with challenges. We feel

836
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Speaker 14: like we're in control of our businesses. But and we

837
00:44:27,333 --> 00:44:28,053
Speaker 14: haven't felt like.

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Speaker 5: That for years.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

840
00:44:29,653 --> 00:44:31,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, and now we just want to take a break.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, funny that. I mean, that is a

842
00:44:34,653 --> 00:44:37,453
Speaker 2: real kind of vein of optimism that I think has

843
00:44:37,493 --> 00:44:40,213
Speaker 2: maybe been we've all been missing for a couple of

844
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Speaker 2: years now. But quite interesting that you've noticed a like

845
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Speaker 2: a real shift in that sense.

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Speaker 14: One hundred percent. And you know, I know it's not

847
00:44:47,453 --> 00:44:50,413
Speaker 14: in every area of our industry. You know, there's some

848
00:44:50,493 --> 00:44:54,613
Speaker 14: that are still finding it really tough, but you know,

849
00:44:54,693 --> 00:44:57,013
Speaker 14: we're at the top end of the market. There is

850
00:44:57,373 --> 00:45:01,133
Speaker 14: there is a large part of New Zealand who a

851
00:45:01,213 --> 00:45:04,893
Speaker 14: very wealthy sort of part of New Zealand that that

852
00:45:04,893 --> 00:45:08,613
Speaker 14: that are doing well still the rest of New Zealand.

853
00:45:08,653 --> 00:45:10,813
Speaker 14: We love to see the rest in New Zealand and

854
00:45:10,853 --> 00:45:13,693
Speaker 14: the rest of New Zealand in some ways isn't traveling

855
00:45:13,733 --> 00:45:16,493
Speaker 14: as much as they used to, but can't wait to

856
00:45:16,533 --> 00:45:18,693
Speaker 14: see them back in the restaurant and hoping form way

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00:45:18,733 --> 00:45:21,813
Speaker 14: more positivity in twenty twenty six because it's just been

858
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Speaker 14: a bit of a slog for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

860
00:45:23,933 --> 00:45:26,773
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that, and I suppose events like

861
00:45:26,893 --> 00:45:29,813
Speaker 2: sale GP are just a like for when you're in

862
00:45:29,813 --> 00:45:32,893
Speaker 2: the hospitality business. Seeing big events like that that bring

863
00:45:32,973 --> 00:45:36,093
Speaker 2: people to the city and get people out. It's the

864
00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:37,613
Speaker 2: sort of thing that just gives you life. Right.

865
00:45:38,093 --> 00:45:40,893
Speaker 14: They are critical to our business. And the more you

866
00:45:40,933 --> 00:45:43,973
Speaker 14: know there's big you know, the ongoing Eden Park discussions

867
00:45:44,013 --> 00:45:47,293
Speaker 14: and the waterfront discussions and you know, so much of

868
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:50,173
Speaker 14: that is really important. The more concerts were doing, the

869
00:45:50,213 --> 00:45:53,613
Speaker 14: more it's just brings so much. You see it when

870
00:45:53,733 --> 00:45:57,333
Speaker 14: you know Metallica was here last year and you know

871
00:45:57,413 --> 00:45:59,493
Speaker 14: there was a big conference going on at the same time,

872
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:03,013
Speaker 14: and the city just explodes with energy. You know, that's

873
00:46:03,053 --> 00:46:06,373
Speaker 14: what we want. Yeah, So you talked about getting a break.

874
00:46:06,533 --> 00:46:08,213
Speaker 14: Does this mean that you do get a bit of

875
00:46:08,213 --> 00:46:10,733
Speaker 14: a break, Well, we sort of, we sort of take this.

876
00:46:12,813 --> 00:46:15,293
Speaker 14: We end up working at the Oyster in you know,

877
00:46:15,373 --> 00:46:18,373
Speaker 14: through January because it just gets ridiculously busy. We seem

878
00:46:18,413 --> 00:46:22,253
Speaker 14: to know half the restaurant every single days that's that's

879
00:46:22,293 --> 00:46:25,413
Speaker 14: coming through the door, and it's actually high energy and

880
00:46:25,453 --> 00:46:28,413
Speaker 14: great fun. And we just take take our time when

881
00:46:28,453 --> 00:46:31,093
Speaker 14: we can. And then you know, once we get through

882
00:46:31,133 --> 00:46:33,493
Speaker 14: those two long weekends and everyone starts to go back

883
00:46:33,493 --> 00:46:36,413
Speaker 14: to work, then we sit there, we'll sneak.

884
00:46:36,093 --> 00:46:37,133
Speaker 5: Away and have a bit of a break.

885
00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:39,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pleased to hear it. One other thing that

886
00:46:39,453 --> 00:46:42,133
Speaker 2: I've noticed is the effort that you're putting into the

887
00:46:42,133 --> 00:46:44,653
Speaker 2: gram these days. And you are very very good at

888
00:46:44,653 --> 00:46:47,613
Speaker 2: social media. Like, don't take this wrong way, but you're

889
00:46:47,613 --> 00:46:49,893
Speaker 2: shockingly good at social media. How important is that to

890
00:46:50,253 --> 00:46:55,093
Speaker 2: the business side of thing. It's incredibly important to our restaurants.

891
00:46:55,173 --> 00:47:00,613
Speaker 2: We're quite different than possibly a normal hospitality group. We

892
00:47:00,693 --> 00:47:02,693
Speaker 2: are a small business. You know, Helen and I are

893
00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:06,613
Speaker 2: very hands on across three businesses, but we have three

894
00:47:06,653 --> 00:47:10,173
Speaker 2: in our marketing team, and then Helen who works full

895
00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:12,853
Speaker 2: time in sort of that space as well. So it's

896
00:47:12,853 --> 00:47:16,373
Speaker 2: a really large investment across the businesses to make sure

897
00:47:16,413 --> 00:47:19,573
Speaker 2: that we are always front of mind and always doing

898
00:47:19,653 --> 00:47:22,893
Speaker 2: great activations. And then we've got great people inside our

899
00:47:22,933 --> 00:47:26,013
Speaker 2: businesses that are using their brains in that way as

900
00:47:26,053 --> 00:47:28,893
Speaker 2: well and constantly coming up with great ideas. And then

901
00:47:28,893 --> 00:47:31,253
Speaker 2: the personal stuff. Helen and I we get a bit

902
00:47:31,333 --> 00:47:33,453
Speaker 2: lax at it every now and then can't keep up

903
00:47:33,693 --> 00:47:36,053
Speaker 2: because we're just in the business is doing. It's like

904
00:47:36,093 --> 00:47:37,453
Speaker 2: a saciable demand, doesn't it.

905
00:47:37,773 --> 00:47:40,373
Speaker 14: Well, we just we sort of we want to do

906
00:47:40,413 --> 00:47:42,213
Speaker 14: the cooking at home, and then we have an argument

907
00:47:42,253 --> 00:47:43,973
Speaker 14: about it, and then we finally cook, and then we

908
00:47:44,093 --> 00:47:46,653
Speaker 14: argue where we're cooking, but in a nice one. It's

909
00:47:46,733 --> 00:47:49,733
Speaker 14: quite an intense process. Helen and I are both working

910
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:54,333
Speaker 14: twenty four to seven together. But she has a great

911
00:47:54,373 --> 00:47:57,653
Speaker 14: brain for the social media side, and I can cook supposedly,

912
00:47:57,733 --> 00:48:01,333
Speaker 14: so we've put that two together and it works well.

913
00:48:01,373 --> 00:48:03,213
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been asked this a thousand times already.

914
00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:05,893
Speaker 2: What do you make of the Michelin Star Guide coming

915
00:48:05,893 --> 00:48:06,333
Speaker 2: to New Yum.

916
00:48:06,653 --> 00:48:09,613
Speaker 14: I think it's I think it's really positive. You know,

917
00:48:09,733 --> 00:48:14,013
Speaker 14: you've got to be in that conversation from a hospitality

918
00:48:14,133 --> 00:48:18,333
Speaker 14: point of view. You know, I had a young New

919
00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:22,893
Speaker 14: Zealand couple who are up in the UK email me

920
00:48:23,093 --> 00:48:26,213
Speaker 14: and they're wanting to return home to New Zealand their

921
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:29,573
Speaker 14: dream of achieving a Michelin Star. You know, that thought

922
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:34,773
Speaker 14: pattern is really important bringing international staff talent who will

923
00:48:34,773 --> 00:48:36,733
Speaker 14: come to work in New Zealand because they can still

924
00:48:36,733 --> 00:48:39,453
Speaker 14: be part of that Michelin Star program. You know, it

925
00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:42,533
Speaker 14: is really really important. It just it helps bring talent

926
00:48:42,573 --> 00:48:44,933
Speaker 14: to New Zealand. And that is it's it's you know,

927
00:48:44,973 --> 00:48:48,693
Speaker 14: there's a cuisine magazine does a fantastic job. You know,

928
00:48:48,733 --> 00:48:52,893
Speaker 14: there's other there's other reviewing platforms that do great job,

929
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:55,933
Speaker 14: but the Michelin Guide is the most respected guide in

930
00:48:55,973 --> 00:48:58,173
Speaker 14: the world and then the biggest guide in the world,

931
00:48:58,253 --> 00:48:59,853
Speaker 14: and they generally get it right.

932
00:49:00,053 --> 00:49:01,893
Speaker 5: So it's I think it's a positive.

933
00:49:01,973 --> 00:49:06,493
Speaker 2: That's really interesting. I hadn't thought about that component, about

934
00:49:06,533 --> 00:49:09,293
Speaker 2: the likelihood that actually it means that lots of New

935
00:49:09,413 --> 00:49:12,653
Speaker 2: Zealand talent overseas might come home because they know that

936
00:49:13,773 --> 00:49:16,093
Speaker 2: by creating in New Zealand, they're going to see that

937
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:20,453
Speaker 2: dish or or that experience recognized in a way that

938
00:49:20,493 --> 00:49:23,213
Speaker 2: will be recognized by other kind of global platform.

939
00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:24,333
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent.

940
00:49:24,373 --> 00:49:26,653
Speaker 14: It's really interesting and it was a consideration for me,

941
00:49:26,773 --> 00:49:31,293
Speaker 14: after working, you know, in that mission and forum for years,

942
00:49:31,293 --> 00:49:33,013
Speaker 14: that I come home to New Zealand and that wasn't

943
00:49:33,013 --> 00:49:34,653
Speaker 14: going to exist. It wasn't going to be part of

944
00:49:34,653 --> 00:49:40,133
Speaker 14: my life anymore. And so many you know, young waiters, restaurants,

945
00:49:40,293 --> 00:49:42,213
Speaker 14: chefs that go out there in the world and work

946
00:49:42,253 --> 00:49:47,693
Speaker 14: in those sorts of restaurants, then they think, come back

947
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:49,733
Speaker 14: to New Zealand. But I'm not part of that anymore. Yeah,

948
00:49:49,773 --> 00:49:50,333
Speaker 14: so it is.

949
00:49:50,533 --> 00:49:51,813
Speaker 5: It is actually really important.

950
00:49:51,893 --> 00:49:53,293
Speaker 2: Does it make you nervous at all?

951
00:49:54,253 --> 00:49:54,773
Speaker 5: Nervous?

952
00:49:55,373 --> 00:50:00,293
Speaker 14: No, I think I'm you know, I'm really hell and

953
00:50:00,293 --> 00:50:04,133
Speaker 14: I really focused on running great businesses. And you know,

954
00:50:04,213 --> 00:50:07,093
Speaker 14: I've always been under the opinion that I don't necessarily

955
00:50:07,133 --> 00:50:09,573
Speaker 14: go and do something to chase something, but if we

956
00:50:09,653 --> 00:50:13,013
Speaker 14: do certain things a certain way and do them incredibly well,

957
00:50:13,013 --> 00:50:15,853
Speaker 14: then the results will come. And first and foremost in

958
00:50:15,933 --> 00:50:19,973
Speaker 14: hospitality these days, my focus is running really smart businesses,

959
00:50:19,973 --> 00:50:22,493
Speaker 14: and that, you know, sort of means that from a

960
00:50:22,813 --> 00:50:26,253
Speaker 14: financial point of view, that we're running incredible businesses. It

961
00:50:26,373 --> 00:50:29,173
Speaker 14: should be a given that we do great food, great service,

962
00:50:29,253 --> 00:50:32,013
Speaker 14: and great atmosphere and dacore and that sort of thing,

963
00:50:32,053 --> 00:50:35,013
Speaker 14: because that's like the bread and butter of what we're right.

964
00:50:35,693 --> 00:50:39,693
Speaker 14: But running, as we know, hospitality businesses are tough, so

965
00:50:39,813 --> 00:50:43,653
Speaker 14: running really smart businesses is probably one of our key priorities.

966
00:50:43,773 --> 00:50:46,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, all fantastic. I do hope that in between the

967
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:48,373
Speaker 2: cooking you're going to be doing at Sale GP you

968
00:50:48,373 --> 00:50:49,733
Speaker 2: get a little bit of a chance to enjoy the

969
00:50:49,813 --> 00:50:51,453
Speaker 2: racing as well. It's so good to see.

970
00:50:51,293 --> 00:50:53,613
Speaker 5: You, Andrew. Andrew, hopefully I'll see you there.

971
00:50:54,093 --> 00:50:57,493
Speaker 2: That is Josh Emmett. He is the culinary collaborator this

972
00:50:57,613 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 2: year's Sale GP, and of course he's the founder of

973
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:03,933
Speaker 2: Guilt Brassery and the Oyster In before eleven o'clock on

974
00:51:04,053 --> 00:51:05,773
Speaker 2: News Dogs, he'd be we're in the garden. I'm going

975
00:51:05,773 --> 00:51:08,133
Speaker 2: to report back to Rood on the progress in our

976
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:12,213
Speaker 2: garden over summer. Tell you what. Michaeh Kerberts are really

977
00:51:12,213 --> 00:51:15,533
Speaker 2: set in the pace this year. Michaeh Kurbets are going crazy,

978
00:51:15,773 --> 00:51:17,573
Speaker 2: so road's going to be in the garden for us.

979
00:51:17,773 --> 00:51:20,893
Speaker 2: He's got some tips on trying to cut down on

980
00:51:20,933 --> 00:51:23,293
Speaker 2: the number of mozzies at your place if they're bothering

981
00:51:23,333 --> 00:51:25,693
Speaker 2: you at this time of year. Next up, though, it's

982
00:51:25,733 --> 00:51:27,973
Speaker 2: time for your screen time picks for this weekend, including

983
00:51:27,973 --> 00:51:31,413
Speaker 2: the latest from Ricky Gervase. Nineteen past ten on news Doorg, z'db.

984
00:51:33,133 --> 00:51:36,493
Speaker 1: Not on your weekend Off the Right Way Saturday Morning

985
00:51:36,533 --> 00:51:38,533
Speaker 1: with Jack Daim News Dogs ETV.

986
00:51:40,213 --> 00:51:43,053
Speaker 2: It is twenty two minutes past ten, which means it

987
00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:46,293
Speaker 2: is screen time time on your Saturday morning. Time to

988
00:51:46,333 --> 00:51:49,453
Speaker 2: get three show or two shows this week Two shows

989
00:51:49,493 --> 00:51:53,293
Speaker 2: to watch or stream at home. Recommendations from Carl Pushman,

990
00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:56,333
Speaker 2: who's in for screen time this weekday, Carl, Morning Jack,

991
00:51:56,853 --> 00:51:57,573
Speaker 2: Happy New Year.

992
00:51:57,733 --> 00:51:57,973
Speaker 4: Hey.

993
00:51:58,493 --> 00:52:00,493
Speaker 2: This has had a lot of hype this first one.

994
00:52:00,533 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 2: In fact, I think it did pretty well at the

995
00:52:02,133 --> 00:52:04,773
Speaker 2: Golden Globes the other day. First up for your screen

996
00:52:04,813 --> 00:52:09,213
Speaker 2: time picks this weekend, Ricky back with a stand up special, Mortality.

997
00:52:09,973 --> 00:52:12,173
Speaker 13: That's right, and he might be the most consistent comedian

998
00:52:12,253 --> 00:52:14,573
Speaker 13: doing stand up today. This is his fourth stand up

999
00:52:14,573 --> 00:52:17,253
Speaker 13: special for Netflix, and sadly, if you've seen any of

1000
00:52:17,293 --> 00:52:20,213
Speaker 13: the previous three, then you've essentially seen this one as well.

1001
00:52:20,293 --> 00:52:20,653
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1002
00:52:20,733 --> 00:52:23,613
Speaker 13: Here he's rehashing the same old topics, bleeding on about

1003
00:52:23,613 --> 00:52:25,693
Speaker 13: the same tired old things. It was just a little

1004
00:52:25,693 --> 00:52:29,013
Speaker 13: bit disappointing. At this point, as material is so recycled

1005
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:31,413
Speaker 13: to get the nod of approval from Greta Thunberg, who,

1006
00:52:31,573 --> 00:52:34,253
Speaker 13: as you'll know, is one of his favorite targets. I

1007
00:52:34,293 --> 00:52:36,733
Speaker 13: think his biggest problem is that he's still hung up

1008
00:52:36,773 --> 00:52:40,213
Speaker 13: on fancying himself the brave champion of free speech. You know,

1009
00:52:40,253 --> 00:52:43,253
Speaker 13: he's rallying against cancel culture again and going on about

1010
00:52:43,253 --> 00:52:46,013
Speaker 13: people being offended by what he's saying. But at this point,

1011
00:52:46,053 --> 00:52:49,093
Speaker 13: I don't really think anyone is. It feels like he

1012
00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:51,293
Speaker 13: desperately wants people to be offended by him and he's

1013
00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:54,573
Speaker 13: trying to get canceled. But I just don't think anyone

1014
00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:56,373
Speaker 13: is anymore. We know what his humor is, we know

1015
00:52:56,413 --> 00:52:58,933
Speaker 13: where he's coming from. He's explained that he's just joking

1016
00:52:59,533 --> 00:53:01,773
Speaker 13: and every stand up special he's ever done, and here

1017
00:53:02,013 --> 00:53:04,733
Speaker 13: it's just more of that same. Sometimes you want more

1018
00:53:04,773 --> 00:53:07,533
Speaker 13: of the same, but please just some new jokes man.

1019
00:53:07,853 --> 00:53:10,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see, it's funny you say that I

1020
00:53:10,693 --> 00:53:13,533
Speaker 2: haven't yet seen it, right, So I actually have no no,

1021
00:53:14,693 --> 00:53:19,133
Speaker 2: you know, kind of position on this. But I have

1022
00:53:19,253 --> 00:53:22,133
Speaker 2: felt like over the last couple of years his stand

1023
00:53:22,213 --> 00:53:25,573
Speaker 2: up specials have kind of diminished in quality and as

1024
00:53:26,093 --> 00:53:28,813
Speaker 2: returns to the Yeah, yeah, and there was before Mortality

1025
00:53:28,893 --> 00:53:32,573
Speaker 2: was even even hit our screens. And you know, it's

1026
00:53:32,733 --> 00:53:35,453
Speaker 2: very hard to replicate the absolute heyday of the office

1027
00:53:35,573 --> 00:53:37,813
Speaker 2: and extras and that kind of thing. But yeah, I

1028
00:53:37,853 --> 00:53:40,133
Speaker 2: just I felt like it has really been a case

1029
00:53:40,133 --> 00:53:41,933
Speaker 2: of diminishing returns over the last few years.

1030
00:53:42,453 --> 00:53:46,253
Speaker 13: Yeah, those two sitcoms are absolutely brilliant. Obviously he wrote

1031
00:53:46,253 --> 00:53:49,493
Speaker 13: them with Stephen Merchant, and Stephen Merchant stuff by himself

1032
00:53:49,573 --> 00:53:53,653
Speaker 13: has also been okay. Richie Javas by himself is okay. Together,

1033
00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:58,213
Speaker 13: they have that something special and I think they both

1034
00:53:58,253 --> 00:54:00,053
Speaker 13: just for their own sakes, just need to get back

1035
00:54:00,053 --> 00:54:03,253
Speaker 13: together and do something because the reputations are just sort

1036
00:54:03,253 --> 00:54:07,733
Speaker 13: of going down. As Jervaise notes himself, his Specials are

1037
00:54:07,773 --> 00:54:09,973
Speaker 13: still number one all around the world, and people can

1038
00:54:10,013 --> 00:54:13,093
Speaker 13: say what they want about how tired and lazy and

1039
00:54:13,213 --> 00:54:15,293
Speaker 13: not clever they are, but he's still getting to number one,

1040
00:54:15,333 --> 00:54:17,693
Speaker 13: so he's not fussed, which is, you know, a nice.

1041
00:54:17,533 --> 00:54:18,093
Speaker 5: Position to be.

1042
00:54:18,173 --> 00:54:21,293
Speaker 13: And he just, you know, at the start of this thing,

1043
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:23,973
Speaker 13: he says, I'm too old now to not say and

1044
00:54:24,053 --> 00:54:25,613
Speaker 13: do what I want. I want to do that all

1045
00:54:25,613 --> 00:54:27,653
Speaker 13: the time, which is fair enough. I think we all

1046
00:54:27,933 --> 00:54:30,573
Speaker 13: want to do that, and no one's been stopping stopping him,

1047
00:54:30,853 --> 00:54:33,533
Speaker 13: and no one's even tried. So there's so much going

1048
00:54:33,573 --> 00:54:35,453
Speaker 13: on in the world right now that he could choose

1049
00:54:35,573 --> 00:54:37,493
Speaker 13: to talk about. I think it's time he needs to

1050
00:54:37,533 --> 00:54:40,213
Speaker 13: move on and take a look around.

1051
00:54:40,533 --> 00:54:43,133
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh fair cool. Okay, So that's Ricky Gervat's

1052
00:54:43,173 --> 00:54:46,253
Speaker 2: Mortality that is airing on Netflix. By all means, if

1053
00:54:46,293 --> 00:54:48,973
Speaker 2: you disagree me, text ninety two to ninety two. If

1054
00:54:48,973 --> 00:54:50,613
Speaker 2: you think this is his best work ever, I would

1055
00:54:50,613 --> 00:54:54,133
Speaker 2: love to hear your justification. Next up for Karl's Picks,

1056
00:54:54,253 --> 00:54:56,413
Speaker 2: another show streaming on Netflix, His and Hers.

1057
00:54:57,293 --> 00:55:00,453
Speaker 13: Yes, this is an American mystery thriller. It's a limited series,

1058
00:55:00,533 --> 00:55:03,373
Speaker 13: which I'm quite happy about. That means six episodes and

1059
00:55:03,413 --> 00:55:06,053
Speaker 13: it's done. They're not dragging this thing out for season

1060
00:55:06,533 --> 00:55:10,053
Speaker 13: season upon season. So I very much appreciate that the

1061
00:55:10,093 --> 00:55:13,133
Speaker 13: title's terrible, I'll admit that. But it's sort of explained

1062
00:55:13,173 --> 00:55:16,013
Speaker 13: by the opening monologue, which goes, there are two sides

1063
00:55:16,053 --> 00:55:19,173
Speaker 13: to every story, which means someone is always lying. That

1064
00:55:19,293 --> 00:55:21,253
Speaker 13: is not true at all. Someone is not always lying.

1065
00:55:21,253 --> 00:55:23,493
Speaker 13: There's just perspectives, and you know, a whole lot of

1066
00:55:23,533 --> 00:55:27,133
Speaker 13: factors that can mean you have one event seen differently.

1067
00:55:27,733 --> 00:55:30,093
Speaker 13: So if you can sort of get over that little

1068
00:55:30,293 --> 00:55:35,213
Speaker 13: logical bit of nonsense, you'll find a quite glossy, slick

1069
00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:39,773
Speaker 13: mystery thriller here. Each episode there is something a clanger

1070
00:55:39,973 --> 00:55:41,653
Speaker 13: like that gets dropped that you do have to sort

1071
00:55:41,653 --> 00:55:44,733
Speaker 13: of suspend your disbelief over a little bit. But when

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00:55:44,773 --> 00:55:47,293
Speaker 13: it gets going, it becomes quite bingeable, and like I say,

1073
00:55:47,373 --> 00:55:50,853
Speaker 13: six episodes, it moves at a good pace, keeps you involved.

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00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:53,613
Speaker 13: It's about a murder of a woman in the woods.

1075
00:55:53,933 --> 00:55:58,693
Speaker 13: The detective investigating her was also having an affair with her,

1076
00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:05,333
Speaker 13: so he acts very suspiciously, hampering the investigation that he's

1077
00:56:05,413 --> 00:56:08,573
Speaker 13: leading because he was the murderer. Or is this because

1078
00:56:08,573 --> 00:56:11,293
Speaker 13: he's just trying to cover up his tracks and not

1079
00:56:11,373 --> 00:56:16,453
Speaker 13: get accused of being the murderer. His estranged wife is

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00:56:16,493 --> 00:56:19,653
Speaker 13: a reporter investigating the murder. She also happened to be

1081
00:56:19,653 --> 00:56:22,533
Speaker 13: in the woods that night. She acts very suspiciously as well.

1082
00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:24,653
Speaker 13: Is that because she was the murderer or because she

1083
00:56:24,733 --> 00:56:28,733
Speaker 13: knows something? So it plays with that kind of element,

1084
00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:32,053
Speaker 13: which is whether his and hers comes in. Is one

1085
00:56:32,053 --> 00:56:33,973
Speaker 13: of them lying I haven't finished it, I'm up to

1086
00:56:33,973 --> 00:56:35,693
Speaker 13: episode four, So at this point, I don't know, but

1087
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:38,373
Speaker 13: I found it very watchable. It's not the smartest show.

1088
00:56:38,573 --> 00:56:40,973
Speaker 13: It likes to think it's. It's one of those shows

1089
00:56:41,013 --> 00:56:43,533
Speaker 13: that thinks it's smarter than it is. Yeah, and as

1090
00:56:43,533 --> 00:56:46,253
Speaker 13: far as I can tell, there's not really The hearings

1091
00:56:46,253 --> 00:56:47,733
Speaker 13: are all read, so I don't know if you could

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00:56:47,733 --> 00:56:51,773
Speaker 13: actually work out who who the murderer is by the

1093
00:56:51,813 --> 00:56:54,093
Speaker 13: show dropping hints and clues. But it's fun to watch,

1094
00:56:54,173 --> 00:56:56,173
Speaker 13: and in January, it's a nice thing just to turn

1095
00:56:56,213 --> 00:56:59,013
Speaker 13: your brain off, watch something pretty slick and have a

1096
00:56:59,013 --> 00:56:59,413
Speaker 13: good time.

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Speaker 2: Nice And that's a good thing. Okay, So that's His

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00:57:01,733 --> 00:57:04,493
Speaker 2: and Hers. That's on Netflix. Carl's first pick for us

1099
00:57:04,493 --> 00:57:07,533
Speaker 2: this week. Ricky Gervai's Mortality is also on Netflix. And

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00:57:07,573 --> 00:57:11,013
Speaker 2: both of those shows, along with everything else, on Saturday mornings,

1101
00:57:11,013 --> 00:57:12,813
Speaker 2: we'll go up on the news talks. He'd b website

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00:57:12,893 --> 00:57:15,213
Speaker 2: the easiest thing to do if you're looking for anything,

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Speaker 2: So you want to make Nicky's amazing BlackBerry apple gallet

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Speaker 2: that she shared before ten o'clock, go to news talks.

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Speaker 2: He'db dot co dot inted Ford slash Jack twenty seven

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Speaker 2: past ten on Newstalks 'db.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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00:57:37,173 --> 00:57:38,253
Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

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00:57:38,973 --> 00:57:41,813
Speaker 16: I'm in love with the sheep, love you Fish and

1110
00:57:41,853 --> 00:57:47,093
Speaker 16: Paula like a magnety my heart into I'm in love

1111
00:57:47,173 --> 00:57:51,213
Speaker 16: with your birdy. Last night you were in my room.

1112
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Speaker 16: No my bad, she'd smell like YOUBD Discovery some didn grun.

1113
00:57:56,493 --> 00:57:58,013
Speaker 16: I'm in love with your birdy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you heard of this guy. It's

1115
00:58:01,093 --> 00:58:02,013
Speaker 2: called id.

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00:58:03,573 --> 00:58:03,853
Speaker 5: ID.

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00:58:04,053 --> 00:58:08,573
Speaker 2: Shearon H played Auckland last night, of course, opening his

1118
00:58:08,693 --> 00:58:12,493
Speaker 2: global Loop tour, and the scale of the production has

1119
00:58:12,533 --> 00:58:16,933
Speaker 2: become clear. This past week, Crane's trucks Cruise descended on

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Speaker 2: Mount Smart's Go Media Stadium to construct the circular stage

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00:58:20,293 --> 00:58:23,853
Speaker 2: and the largest video screen ever built for a concert

1122
00:58:23,853 --> 00:58:27,293
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. So about forty thousand people attended last night.

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Speaker 2: Our music reviewer was there in person. He's going to

1124
00:58:30,173 --> 00:58:32,693
Speaker 2: be here before midday to share us share with us

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00:58:32,693 --> 00:58:36,253
Speaker 2: his thoughts on how the event felt, how big that

1126
00:58:36,493 --> 00:58:41,253
Speaker 2: screen really is, how the stage set up looked, and

1127
00:58:41,333 --> 00:58:43,573
Speaker 2: what you can expect if you were heading along to

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Speaker 2: tonight's show in Auckland, if you're going to see Ed

1129
00:58:46,133 --> 00:58:49,653
Speaker 2: next week in Wellington, or in christ Church. By the way, Carl,

1130
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Speaker 2: who was with us for screen time this week, has

1131
00:58:51,813 --> 00:58:55,613
Speaker 2: a sub stack called screen Crack where he's got lots

1132
00:58:55,613 --> 00:58:59,573
Speaker 2: of recommendations and his thoughts on different shows. And those

1133
00:58:59,573 --> 00:59:02,293
Speaker 2: shows of course from this week, Wrecky Jerves and his

1134
00:59:02,373 --> 00:59:03,933
Speaker 2: and hers are up on the news talks. He'd be

1135
00:59:04,053 --> 00:59:06,053
Speaker 2: website now. I said to here before ten o'clock that

1136
00:59:06,133 --> 00:59:11,173
Speaker 2: my freak of the summer had been the incredible groaning

1137
00:59:11,573 --> 00:59:16,493
Speaker 2: two kilogram box of red electric cherries that my mum

1138
00:59:16,693 --> 00:59:19,293
Speaker 2: sent through to our place, that my wife and I

1139
00:59:19,373 --> 00:59:22,373
Speaker 2: demolished in the space of forty eight hours. Two kg's

1140
00:59:22,413 --> 00:59:28,893
Speaker 2: of cherries between two people in two days. My trip

1141
00:59:28,893 --> 00:59:31,413
Speaker 2: of the summer, though, my trip of the summer, aside

1142
00:59:31,493 --> 00:59:35,333
Speaker 2: from catching up with all of the Farno in Nelson

1143
00:59:35,453 --> 00:59:39,813
Speaker 2: this year for Christmas, was to Sydney. Was very fortunate

1144
00:59:39,853 --> 00:59:41,853
Speaker 2: to have a couple of days in Sydney with my

1145
00:59:41,973 --> 00:59:46,693
Speaker 2: wife and now eleven month old baby. And every time

1146
00:59:46,693 --> 00:59:50,413
Speaker 2: I go to Sydney, I just just Sydney is such

1147
00:59:50,613 --> 00:59:53,653
Speaker 2: a great city. It is one of the world's great cities,

1148
00:59:53,733 --> 00:59:55,733
Speaker 2: it really is. And so we did lots of the

1149
00:59:55,773 --> 00:59:57,453
Speaker 2: you know, lots of the kind of standard activities. We

1150
00:59:57,573 --> 00:59:59,333
Speaker 2: you know, ate and drank and caught up with friends

1151
00:59:59,373 --> 01:00:01,373
Speaker 2: and when I looked at some amazing art and all

1152
01:00:01,413 --> 01:00:05,453
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. But I also managed to take

1153
01:00:05,933 --> 01:00:09,453
Speaker 2: my month old baby and my wife to a day

1154
01:00:09,493 --> 01:00:12,693
Speaker 2: at the Ashes, which was a little bit cheeky because

1155
01:00:12,853 --> 01:00:14,533
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I don't think my wife is a

1156
01:00:14,653 --> 01:00:18,413
Speaker 2: huge Test cricket fan and my eleven month old is.

1157
01:00:19,053 --> 01:00:21,293
Speaker 2: He's just learning the fundamentals of the game at the moment.

1158
01:00:21,333 --> 01:00:23,453
Speaker 2: But it was very impressive. Not only was it amazing

1159
01:00:23,493 --> 01:00:27,373
Speaker 2: to be there and to kind of experience the atmosphere

1160
01:00:27,413 --> 01:00:29,653
Speaker 2: of being at an ASHES test to sold out Ashes

1161
01:00:29,973 --> 01:00:33,173
Speaker 2: at the SCG, tens of thousands of Australian and English

1162
01:00:33,213 --> 01:00:38,693
Speaker 2: cricket fans, the Bamie army singing away. But the sg

1163
01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:41,453
Speaker 2: was so well set up for people like me who

1164
01:00:41,493 --> 01:00:43,413
Speaker 2: wanted to take a baby to the cricket because I

1165
01:00:43,453 --> 01:00:45,733
Speaker 2: know that for a lot of people that would be

1166
01:00:46,053 --> 01:00:49,173
Speaker 2: a bad idea. But basically we got We got on

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01:00:49,293 --> 01:00:51,773
Speaker 2: the little baby air muffs so if the noise was

1168
01:00:51,813 --> 01:00:54,533
Speaker 2: too much, would be able to protect his ears. But

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Speaker 2: as well as that, the SCG not only has pram

1170
01:00:58,053 --> 01:01:03,573
Speaker 2: parking under the stadium, but they also have a sensory room.

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01:01:04,293 --> 01:01:07,253
Speaker 2: So if being out there in the sun surrounded by

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Speaker 2: thousands of people, some of them are drinking and singing

1173
01:01:10,053 --> 01:01:12,333
Speaker 2: and all of that kind of carry on. If that's

1174
01:01:12,413 --> 01:01:15,253
Speaker 2: too much, you can go into the sensory room and

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01:01:15,293 --> 01:01:18,333
Speaker 2: it's a room that has no natural lights, completely blacked out,

1176
01:01:18,493 --> 01:01:21,453
Speaker 2: and it has kind of soothing music and little water

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01:01:21,573 --> 01:01:25,253
Speaker 2: features and low lights so that you can just reconnect

1178
01:01:25,253 --> 01:01:27,533
Speaker 2: with yourself and take a little bit of time out.

1179
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Speaker 2: So anyway, I was very impressed. It was a wonderful

1180
01:01:29,893 --> 01:01:32,693
Speaker 2: thing to do, and yeah, pretty special, even though the

1181
01:01:32,733 --> 01:01:35,853
Speaker 2: cricket was a kind of middling quality, to be perfectly honest,

1182
01:01:35,933 --> 01:01:38,533
Speaker 2: to be there at the ashes with my wife and

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01:01:38,613 --> 01:01:41,333
Speaker 2: son was very special. Hopefully, just one of many, many

1184
01:01:41,413 --> 01:01:44,733
Speaker 2: many games to come. Before eleven o'clock on Newstalk's Hedb

1185
01:01:44,973 --> 01:01:47,973
Speaker 2: if you're looking for a great drop, our masters Somaliaism

1186
01:01:48,053 --> 01:01:51,093
Speaker 2: with his pick for this weekend, and next up our

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Speaker 2: textpert with what Suri and Google now have in common. Siri,

1188
01:01:55,893 --> 01:01:59,053
Speaker 2: of course, is the voice assistant that Apple uses. Usually

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01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:02,413
Speaker 2: Apple and Google are competitors, but not with Siri anymore.

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Speaker 2: He will explain why twenty six to eleven Newstalk's hedb

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01:02:06,373 --> 01:02:09,933
Speaker 2: twenty four to eleven. Here with Jack came this Saturday

1192
01:02:09,933 --> 01:02:11,933
Speaker 2: morning for the first time in twenty twenty six. Thanks

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01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:13,493
Speaker 2: for your feedback. I need to hear some of your

1194
01:02:13,493 --> 01:02:16,053
Speaker 2: messages in a couple of minutes. Sean, though, it's just

1195
01:02:16,093 --> 01:02:17,493
Speaker 2: let me a note to say, Jack, I'll even't want

1196
01:02:17,493 --> 01:02:18,773
Speaker 2: to know it, but I've just ordered a box of

1197
01:02:18,773 --> 01:02:21,493
Speaker 2: your electric Cherry's counting down the days until they arrive.

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01:02:21,853 --> 01:02:25,493
Speaker 2: You will not be disappointed. Sean. Honestly, there export grades.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're as good as they get. I reckon,

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01:02:28,253 --> 01:02:30,773
Speaker 2: they're as good as they get. Time to catch up

1201
01:02:30,813 --> 01:02:33,413
Speaker 2: with our text but Paul Stenhouse is here with us

1202
01:02:33,413 --> 01:02:35,813
Speaker 2: this morning for the first time, and the new year

1203
01:02:35,933 --> 01:02:36,533
Speaker 2: killed of Paul.

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01:02:37,053 --> 01:02:38,053
Speaker 17: Yeah, good morning.

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01:02:38,333 --> 01:02:43,013
Speaker 2: So Siri and Google have signed a deal. Siri, of course,

1206
01:02:43,253 --> 01:02:46,213
Speaker 2: is the voice assistant that has been plagued by problems

1207
01:02:46,333 --> 01:02:49,213
Speaker 2: rapple over the last couple of years. Apple came out.

1208
01:02:49,293 --> 01:02:52,093
Speaker 2: Let's just remind us as they came out and they said,

1209
01:02:52,133 --> 01:02:54,573
Speaker 2: Siri using AI is going to be doing all of

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Speaker 2: these amazing things. So, for example, you're going to be

1211
01:02:57,053 --> 01:02:59,093
Speaker 2: able to say to Siri, Hey, Siri, has my mum's

1212
01:02:59,173 --> 01:03:01,773
Speaker 2: flight landed yet, And Sirih's going to be so smart

1213
01:03:01,973 --> 01:03:03,853
Speaker 2: that Sirih's going to go through your email. See an

1214
01:03:03,853 --> 01:03:05,973
Speaker 2: email from your mum saying this is the flight I'm

1215
01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:07,813
Speaker 2: going to be careing to visit you sometime soon. It's

1216
01:03:07,813 --> 01:03:09,973
Speaker 2: then going to cross check that with the information at

1217
01:03:09,973 --> 01:03:12,133
Speaker 2: your local airport to work out whether or not that

1218
01:03:12,173 --> 01:03:13,733
Speaker 2: flight has arrived, and it's going to come back to

1219
01:03:13,733 --> 01:03:16,453
Speaker 2: you with an answer and a mere second. And yet

1220
01:03:16,933 --> 01:03:17,653
Speaker 2: it couldn't do that.

1221
01:03:18,533 --> 01:03:20,333
Speaker 17: No, they got on stage and said this.

1222
01:03:21,093 --> 01:03:24,133
Speaker 2: You know, there was a disaster, a true disaster and

1223
01:03:24,813 --> 01:03:28,013
Speaker 2: one that Apple usually wouldn't the Apple of Old would

1224
01:03:28,013 --> 01:03:30,693
Speaker 2: never have made no. I.

1225
01:03:30,693 --> 01:03:35,053
Speaker 17: I can only imagine that there was so much pressure

1226
01:03:35,093 --> 01:03:37,493
Speaker 17: on them to make sure that they were in the

1227
01:03:37,493 --> 01:03:41,053
Speaker 17: AI conversation that they just had to rush it. Because

1228
01:03:41,093 --> 01:03:42,813
Speaker 17: they did. I think they couched it and said, you know,

1229
01:03:42,853 --> 01:03:45,093
Speaker 17: these features are coming soon and this is just a preview.

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Speaker 17: And you know, I'm sure they had all sorts of

1231
01:03:46,653 --> 01:03:49,413
Speaker 17: legales around like some of it, you know, so forward

1232
01:03:49,453 --> 01:03:52,693
Speaker 17: looking statements and blah blah blah blah blah. But it just,

1233
01:03:53,213 --> 01:03:56,053
Speaker 17: you know, they went so big with this Apple Intelligence AI,

1234
01:03:56,173 --> 01:03:58,213
Speaker 17: which I just thought was so good, but they went

1235
01:03:58,293 --> 01:04:01,053
Speaker 17: so big with it, and you say it just it

1236
01:04:01,173 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 17: hasn't happened, and they don't have Seemingly they don't have

1237
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:07,173
Speaker 17: the talent in house. They started to work with open

1238
01:04:07,213 --> 01:04:09,493
Speaker 17: Ai and they've got an open Ai partnerships with other

1239
01:04:09,533 --> 01:04:12,453
Speaker 17: chet GPT folks, and so that's kind of built into

1240
01:04:12,613 --> 01:04:14,573
Speaker 17: Apple and Surrey kind of at the moment. But it's

1241
01:04:14,573 --> 01:04:19,173
Speaker 17: all a bit mashed together. And so now they are

1242
01:04:19,213 --> 01:04:23,013
Speaker 17: going to spend the word is a billion dollars a year.

1243
01:04:23,573 --> 01:04:27,053
Speaker 17: Apple is just going to outsource Surrey basically the Gemini,

1244
01:04:27,893 --> 01:04:31,493
Speaker 17: which is the Google Assistant technology. Now they're going to

1245
01:04:31,493 --> 01:04:34,373
Speaker 17: get something special. They're going to get a special Gemini

1246
01:04:34,013 --> 01:04:37,933
Speaker 17: for Apple. It's going to be able to run locally

1247
01:04:38,053 --> 01:04:40,533
Speaker 17: on Apple devices where it can, and it's also then

1248
01:04:40,573 --> 01:04:43,933
Speaker 17: going to run an Apple's private cloud. So the Apple

1249
01:04:44,053 --> 01:04:46,133
Speaker 17: data is not going to go over to Google, right,

1250
01:04:46,173 --> 01:04:50,613
Speaker 17: It's going to be this siloed kind of piece. But

1251
01:04:51,813 --> 01:04:55,373
Speaker 17: it's an interesting money merry go around Jack, because so

1252
01:04:55,893 --> 01:04:59,813
Speaker 17: in this deal, Apple will be giving money to Google

1253
01:05:00,013 --> 01:05:04,493
Speaker 17: for Gemini, but Google gives money to Apple to be

1254
01:05:04,653 --> 01:05:08,293
Speaker 17: their preferred search partner, and they pay apparently like a

1255
01:05:08,293 --> 01:05:10,693
Speaker 17: billion dollars a year for that too. So yeah, just

1256
01:05:10,893 --> 01:05:11,853
Speaker 17: it might just net out.

1257
01:05:11,973 --> 01:05:13,893
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you do this and we'll do that. Yeah,

1258
01:05:13,933 --> 01:05:16,613
Speaker 2: you scratch, I'll scratch yours. Yeah right, yeah. Yeah.

1259
01:05:16,653 --> 01:05:21,133
Speaker 17: So I don't know how that works, but I will

1260
01:05:21,133 --> 01:05:22,893
Speaker 17: be interested to see if they ever get to that

1261
01:05:23,013 --> 01:05:25,973
Speaker 17: kind of dream that they sold, because that is I mean,

1262
01:05:26,053 --> 01:05:29,973
Speaker 17: that is true Apple intelligence. That is true artificial intelligence.

1263
01:05:30,173 --> 01:05:33,173
Speaker 17: If it can figure out with the context of my mum,

1264
01:05:33,693 --> 01:05:36,373
Speaker 17: my friend, my whatever, you said, oh when does my

1265
01:05:36,373 --> 01:05:38,213
Speaker 17: friend's flight come in, and it can figure out that

1266
01:05:38,293 --> 01:05:41,813
Speaker 17: it's someone, you know, it can figure out if someone's flying,

1267
01:05:42,213 --> 01:05:44,373
Speaker 17: did they send you the details? If it can get

1268
01:05:44,413 --> 01:05:48,253
Speaker 17: to all of that stuff, that will be incredible. Yeah,

1269
01:05:48,293 --> 01:05:49,893
Speaker 17: I guess we're just waiting and seeing.

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Speaker 2: Only at the moment. It's pretty annoying. I use it

1271
01:05:52,933 --> 01:05:55,253
Speaker 2: just for texting sometimes and oh my god, it's like,

1272
01:05:55,373 --> 01:05:57,893
Speaker 2: oh wow, it's really quite limited, you know.

1273
01:05:58,493 --> 01:06:00,733
Speaker 17: Sah, you can only really sit an alarm for me,

1274
01:06:00,773 --> 01:06:02,053
Speaker 17: and sometimes she doesn't even do that.

1275
01:06:02,293 --> 01:06:05,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, frustrating. Anyway, Hey, Ika made a bit of

1276
01:06:05,493 --> 01:06:07,933
Speaker 2: a splash this consumer electronics show.

1277
01:06:08,613 --> 01:06:09,933
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always.

1278
01:06:09,693 --> 01:06:12,853
Speaker 17: At the very beginning of the year in Vegas, cees,

1279
01:06:13,093 --> 01:06:17,733
Speaker 17: as it's known, and it's really about there's all sorts

1280
01:06:17,773 --> 01:06:20,613
Speaker 17: go there, right, Consumer electronics is pretty broad, but it's

1281
01:06:20,693 --> 01:06:23,613
Speaker 17: usually about kind of physical things. So there's like Samsung

1282
01:06:23,653 --> 01:06:26,493
Speaker 17: goes and shows off their staff and blah blah blah

1283
01:06:26,533 --> 01:06:29,213
Speaker 17: blahvor and kind of has a booth and literally hundreds

1284
01:06:29,213 --> 01:06:30,893
Speaker 17: of thousands of people go to this thing to check

1285
01:06:30,893 --> 01:06:34,973
Speaker 17: out the latest weirs. And Ikea was there this year

1286
01:06:35,853 --> 01:06:39,093
Speaker 17: and they were showing off their latest smart gadgets. They've

1287
01:06:39,133 --> 01:06:43,253
Speaker 17: been slowly getting into the smart home market, and let

1288
01:06:43,293 --> 01:06:46,493
Speaker 17: me say, they have a really really impressive array of

1289
01:06:46,813 --> 01:06:49,653
Speaker 17: smart things across all of it.

1290
01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:51,933
Speaker 2: What's cool is.

1291
01:06:51,853 --> 01:06:54,493
Speaker 17: That they're using this new standard which is called Matter,

1292
01:06:54,533 --> 01:06:57,093
Speaker 17: which allows kind of all the different home systems to

1293
01:06:57,173 --> 01:06:59,013
Speaker 17: talk together, kind of like we've got Wi Fi, we've

1294
01:06:59,053 --> 01:07:02,133
Speaker 17: got Bluetooth matters, kind of like one of these protocols.

1295
01:07:02,813 --> 01:07:05,213
Speaker 17: But they've launched a whole ton of smart bulbs and

1296
01:07:05,253 --> 01:07:07,493
Speaker 17: all sorts of different shapes and sizes, and they do

1297
01:07:07,533 --> 01:07:12,093
Speaker 17: the variations on white, they do the full color. They've

1298
01:07:12,093 --> 01:07:15,693
Speaker 17: got buttons and switches and plugs. But even this year

1299
01:07:15,853 --> 01:07:17,773
Speaker 17: going to be rolling out and these are still to come.

1300
01:07:19,453 --> 01:07:22,173
Speaker 17: Some quite sharp looking premium speakers.

1301
01:07:22,373 --> 01:07:23,853
Speaker 2: Yeah right, actually look like.

1302
01:07:23,853 --> 01:07:27,053
Speaker 17: B and O the circular and they're on it. They

1303
01:07:27,093 --> 01:07:28,533
Speaker 17: can be on a stand, but they can also be

1304
01:07:28,573 --> 01:07:32,133
Speaker 17: mounted to the wall. They look pretty, They look like

1305
01:07:32,333 --> 01:07:34,973
Speaker 17: very high end. Ikea has knocked it out of the

1306
01:07:34,973 --> 01:07:36,853
Speaker 17: park with that one, and they're also going to be

1307
01:07:36,893 --> 01:07:39,453
Speaker 17: doing a seriously cheap Bluetooth speaker. So don't know how

1308
01:07:39,493 --> 01:07:41,333
Speaker 17: much it would retail for a New Zealand, but in

1309
01:07:41,373 --> 01:07:43,893
Speaker 17: the US it's expected to be ten dollars, and the

1310
01:07:43,933 --> 01:07:46,093
Speaker 17: reviews say that it doesn't actually sound half bad.

1311
01:07:47,893 --> 01:07:48,173
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1312
01:07:48,213 --> 01:07:50,093
Speaker 17: So they've got a whole bunch of switches and plugs

1313
01:07:50,093 --> 01:07:52,533
Speaker 17: and all sorts of fun things. So if you do

1314
01:07:52,573 --> 01:07:54,733
Speaker 17: want to start dabbling in the in the smart home market,

1315
01:07:54,813 --> 01:07:57,333
Speaker 17: it used to be really expensive if you'd go down

1316
01:07:57,373 --> 01:08:00,853
Speaker 17: the Phillips Hugh bowlb line. Holy moly, those are expensive.

1317
01:08:01,053 --> 01:08:03,373
Speaker 17: But the Ikea stuff might be one to check out.

1318
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:05,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, very good. I think you Paul catch up

1319
01:08:05,493 --> 01:08:09,453
Speaker 2: with again very soon Textbert Paul's stenhouse there. Jack Eden

1320
01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:12,253
Speaker 2: Park also has a sensory room on the concourse South

1321
01:08:12,333 --> 01:08:15,213
Speaker 2: Sand says Sue. Yeah, I've just googled it, so amazing.

1322
01:08:15,493 --> 01:08:17,493
Speaker 2: What a good idea I wonder how many other stadium

1323
01:08:17,653 --> 01:08:20,373
Speaker 2: Maybe there's becoming the kind of thing that you know

1324
01:08:20,413 --> 01:08:23,173
Speaker 2: big stadiums do, if you know, they're aware of having

1325
01:08:23,173 --> 01:08:24,893
Speaker 2: people who can be a bit overwhelmed by all of

1326
01:08:24,933 --> 01:08:27,933
Speaker 2: the noise and all to carry on, and they have

1327
01:08:28,013 --> 01:08:30,213
Speaker 2: sensory rooms. So very good. Next time I met Eden Park,

1328
01:08:30,253 --> 01:08:31,693
Speaker 2: I'll have to stick my nose in the door so

1329
01:08:31,693 --> 01:08:33,613
Speaker 2: I can have a bit of a look. Joe has

1330
01:08:33,653 --> 01:08:35,893
Speaker 2: flipped my note to say, Jack, I ate my first

1331
01:08:36,053 --> 01:08:39,893
Speaker 2: ever cherry over Christmas. Get that our son was working

1332
01:08:39,933 --> 01:08:42,453
Speaker 2: down in Cromwell for the last six weeks for his employee.

1333
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:47,133
Speaker 2: Can we crunch absolutely love them fantastic Joe. Yeah, I

1334
01:08:47,133 --> 01:08:48,973
Speaker 2: mean you're gonna have to have to build on that.

1335
01:08:48,973 --> 01:08:50,373
Speaker 2: You get have to make up for lost time as

1336
01:08:50,373 --> 01:08:52,653
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. Ninety two ninety two if you

1337
01:08:52,693 --> 01:08:55,013
Speaker 2: want to send us the message at seventeen to eleven.

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01:08:55,533 --> 01:08:59,173
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

1339
01:09:00,213 --> 01:09:03,293
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack, Team News Talks Evy.

1340
01:09:05,333 --> 01:09:07,613
Speaker 2: Sarey's the season for beach, there's the season for cherries.

1341
01:09:07,653 --> 01:09:12,013
Speaker 2: There is also the season four weddings, and after eleven o'clock,

1342
01:09:12,013 --> 01:09:14,573
Speaker 2: our sustainability expert is going to be in with tips

1343
01:09:14,653 --> 01:09:19,493
Speaker 2: on having sustainable weddings. And yet if you think about it,

1344
01:09:19,853 --> 01:09:24,773
Speaker 2: you think about how much effort, energy, often money goes

1345
01:09:24,813 --> 01:09:32,533
Speaker 2: into people's respective big day or big days, then yeah,

1346
01:09:32,573 --> 01:09:34,733
Speaker 2: it's a it's a prime sort of thing where you

1347
01:09:34,773 --> 01:09:37,573
Speaker 2: think a few changes might end up saving a whole lot,

1348
01:09:37,733 --> 01:09:39,333
Speaker 2: it might be a whole lot more sustainable. So she's

1349
01:09:39,333 --> 01:09:42,013
Speaker 2: gonna be with us after eleven this morning with that advice.

1350
01:09:42,093 --> 01:09:45,413
Speaker 2: Time now though, to catch up with Master somalier Cameron Douglas,

1351
01:09:45,413 --> 01:09:48,453
Speaker 2: who for this week's Wine Pick has chosen a Paddy

1352
01:09:48,533 --> 01:09:52,413
Speaker 2: Borthwick penigree from White It Upper twenty twenty five is

1353
01:09:52,453 --> 01:09:54,533
Speaker 2: the vintage and Cameron's with us now. Good day, Cameron,

1354
01:09:55,213 --> 01:09:57,653
Speaker 2: Good morning, Happy New Year, Happy new Year. Tell us

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01:09:57,693 --> 01:09:59,533
Speaker 2: about the Paddy Borthwick penigree.

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01:10:00,253 --> 01:10:04,373
Speaker 18: Well, Paddy Borthwick is one of those fabulous characters in

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01:10:04,413 --> 01:10:07,013
Speaker 18: the New Zealand wine sector. He's got about thirty nine

1358
01:10:07,133 --> 01:10:10,253
Speaker 18: vintages under his belt but still looks twenty five years old,

1359
01:10:10,733 --> 01:10:17,373
Speaker 18: so he's an exception in an exceptional human being and

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01:10:18,053 --> 01:10:24,653
Speaker 18: lives and works on the Tafungus Station but also has

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01:10:24,933 --> 01:10:27,893
Speaker 18: a winery and produces some fabulous wines.

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01:10:27,933 --> 01:10:29,213
Speaker 3: The penagree.

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01:10:29,733 --> 01:10:32,973
Speaker 18: I think Pinogree should always be drunk young, So twenty

1364
01:10:33,013 --> 01:10:36,333
Speaker 18: twenty five is immediately in its perfect drinking window. And

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01:10:36,373 --> 01:10:38,533
Speaker 18: I know there are exceptions to that kind of rule

1366
01:10:38,573 --> 01:10:41,853
Speaker 18: when it comes to wine, But what you're looking for

1367
01:10:41,893 --> 01:10:46,133
Speaker 18: with penigree is something that's got a heartbeat of fruit

1368
01:10:46,653 --> 01:10:49,613
Speaker 18: surrounded by acidity and a little bit of white spice.

1369
01:10:49,613 --> 01:10:52,853
Speaker 18: And I like this takes all those boxes of white

1370
01:10:52,853 --> 01:10:57,133
Speaker 18: flowers and pears and apples and even a little dandelion

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01:10:57,293 --> 01:11:00,973
Speaker 18: note I call with that floral stuff and white pepper,

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01:11:01,613 --> 01:11:04,893
Speaker 18: good medium weight, nice satin cream texture and mouth feel.

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01:11:04,893 --> 01:11:06,893
Speaker 18: And it's just one of those wines that you can

1374
01:11:07,213 --> 01:11:09,733
Speaker 18: chill down a little bit in your refrigerator and reach for.

1375
01:11:09,853 --> 01:11:11,053
Speaker 18: It's just just delicious.

1376
01:11:11,133 --> 01:11:14,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. So what would you match it with.

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01:11:15,853 --> 01:11:19,533
Speaker 18: Well, I'm thinking that people, even though we're still in

1378
01:11:19,573 --> 01:11:21,733
Speaker 18: the middle of summer, start to think about what can

1379
01:11:21,773 --> 01:11:25,053
Speaker 18: I have that's gonna set me up for autumn a

1380
01:11:25,093 --> 01:11:28,213
Speaker 18: little bit. So I've chosen a dish that's quite heavy

1381
01:11:28,253 --> 01:11:31,333
Speaker 18: and rich, and it's a chicken leak and sweet potato baked.

1382
01:11:31,373 --> 01:11:35,013
Speaker 18: So it's kind of like a pie without pastry. But

1383
01:11:35,093 --> 01:11:39,533
Speaker 18: because you're using cream and hooda cheese and Dijon mustard,

1384
01:11:39,533 --> 01:11:43,813
Speaker 18: and in that to add richness. You can drop those

1385
01:11:43,973 --> 01:11:46,573
Speaker 18: ingredients out basically, and you can even drop the cream

1386
01:11:46,573 --> 01:11:49,533
Speaker 18: out if you want to. But what a pinogree does

1387
01:11:49,653 --> 01:11:52,973
Speaker 18: is it likes to swim around the flavors of creaminess

1388
01:11:53,213 --> 01:11:57,013
Speaker 18: and the easy protein that chicken offers. And if you've

1389
01:11:57,013 --> 01:11:59,933
Speaker 18: got something like Dieseon mustard, then pinogree the sweetness of

1390
01:11:59,973 --> 01:12:02,773
Speaker 18: fruit and pinot green contrast that really rather well.

1391
01:12:03,173 --> 01:12:06,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you like that, the kind of fattiness

1392
01:12:06,093 --> 01:12:10,213
Speaker 2: being offset by the penigree, then a big knob of

1393
01:12:10,293 --> 01:12:16,013
Speaker 2: butter on a freshly grilled corn on the cob might

1394
01:12:16,253 --> 01:12:16,973
Speaker 2: be just the trick.

1395
01:12:17,613 --> 01:12:22,053
Speaker 18: Yeah, now you're speaking my language, you know, just fresh corn, butter,

1396
01:12:22,333 --> 01:12:25,213
Speaker 18: lots of salt and glass peanotgree can't miss.

1397
01:12:25,973 --> 01:12:28,413
Speaker 2: How was the twenty twenty five vintage and white it upper?

1398
01:12:30,133 --> 01:12:30,653
Speaker 9: Overall?

1399
01:12:30,733 --> 01:12:32,933
Speaker 18: I have to say it was probably a blessed vintage.

1400
01:12:33,373 --> 01:12:37,093
Speaker 18: There there's always anomalies when it comes to weather in

1401
01:12:37,093 --> 01:12:41,053
Speaker 18: New Zealand these days, and so yes, the vineyards dodged

1402
01:12:41,293 --> 01:12:44,053
Speaker 18: a bullet, but they dodged it rather well and they've

1403
01:12:44,053 --> 01:12:47,413
Speaker 18: got higher volumes. They had a good fruit set which

1404
01:12:47,453 --> 01:12:51,573
Speaker 18: gave them higher volumes. So it's above average quality overall.

1405
01:12:51,813 --> 01:12:55,253
Speaker 18: And you know it's a small team at Paddy Borthwick. Well,

1406
01:12:55,293 --> 01:12:57,573
Speaker 18: you know, he might have thirty nine vintages under his belt,

1407
01:12:57,573 --> 01:12:59,773
Speaker 18: but he's got an assistant winemaker and Brian.

1408
01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:00,373
Speaker 3: He's got a.

1409
01:13:00,413 --> 01:13:02,493
Speaker 18: Vineyard manager and Lisa, and he's got a machine and

1410
01:13:02,573 --> 01:13:03,293
Speaker 18: Opsky Peter.

1411
01:13:03,453 --> 01:13:03,933
Speaker 2: But that's it.

1412
01:13:04,533 --> 01:13:05,613
Speaker 18: You know, it's a small team.

1413
01:13:05,733 --> 01:13:08,453
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Yeah, that sounds great. Hey, thank you so much. Camera.

1414
01:13:08,533 --> 01:13:10,933
Speaker 2: So Cameron's picked for us this week a Petty Borthwick

1415
01:13:10,973 --> 01:13:13,893
Speaker 2: penigree twenty twenty five from White It Upper. The details

1416
01:13:13,933 --> 01:13:16,493
Speaker 2: will be on the news talk'd be website. We're in

1417
01:13:16,533 --> 01:13:18,573
Speaker 2: the garden next.

1418
01:13:19,093 --> 01:13:21,933
Speaker 1: Gardening with still sharp and yet dollars off loads of

1419
01:13:22,013 --> 01:13:23,293
Speaker 1: selected still tools.

1420
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:27,373
Speaker 2: Rue climb passes our man in the garden. Good morning,

1421
01:13:27,453 --> 01:13:29,693
Speaker 2: nam to hoo, Happy new year.

1422
01:13:30,693 --> 01:13:33,653
Speaker 9: Yes, sanks to you. I've missed you. Jack. Luckily you

1423
01:13:33,733 --> 01:13:35,453
Speaker 9: send Livy around for a few gigs.

1424
01:13:35,533 --> 01:13:36,253
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of.

1425
01:13:36,133 --> 01:13:39,293
Speaker 2: Course, of course she's you know, she's honestly, what is

1426
01:13:39,293 --> 01:13:42,293
Speaker 2: it knows to the millstone? She is working right throughout summer.

1427
01:13:42,333 --> 01:13:46,453
Speaker 9: She's yeah, sorry.

1428
01:13:44,573 --> 01:13:44,653
Speaker 11: What.

1429
01:13:46,253 --> 01:13:52,653
Speaker 2: Knows to the millstone knows the grindstone Millstone. Yeah all three, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

1430
01:13:52,733 --> 01:13:54,773
Speaker 9: Yeah, tell me about your kukubts.

1431
01:13:54,933 --> 01:13:58,253
Speaker 2: Oh well that look they are somewhat oddly shaped. It's

1432
01:13:58,253 --> 01:14:01,773
Speaker 2: the first time after I've grown cucumbers, but I and

1433
01:14:01,813 --> 01:14:04,733
Speaker 2: I had read bad things that I actually homegrown cucumbers

1434
01:14:04,733 --> 01:14:08,293
Speaker 2: never never taste as good as the as the store

1435
01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:13,533
Speaker 2: bought ones. I have an incredibly embarrassing admission that I

1436
01:14:13,573 --> 01:14:15,733
Speaker 2: honestly thought twice about even telling you when it came

1437
01:14:15,773 --> 01:14:18,893
Speaker 2: to my cucumbers, because I've never grown a cucumber before.

1438
01:14:19,013 --> 01:14:22,413
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that they had these little spiny bumps.

1439
01:14:22,093 --> 01:14:25,693
Speaker 9: On they can do some varieties do I never.

1440
01:14:25,733 --> 01:14:28,293
Speaker 2: Never appreciated it, never knew it, and I was growing it,

1441
01:14:28,373 --> 01:14:30,293
Speaker 2: I was like, why is it? Why is it prickly?

1442
01:14:30,333 --> 01:14:33,293
Speaker 2: Why is my cucumber prickly? And I yeah, it took

1443
01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:36,773
Speaker 2: growing at myself as a thirty almost thirty nine year

1444
01:14:36,813 --> 01:14:39,253
Speaker 2: old man to finally actually appreciate that one of the

1445
01:14:39,373 --> 01:14:42,453
Speaker 2: vegetables I would have eaten more in my life quite

1446
01:14:42,493 --> 01:14:44,293
Speaker 2: often has little spines on it. So there you go.

1447
01:14:44,573 --> 01:14:46,693
Speaker 9: That's right, And not only that, if you didn't then

1448
01:14:46,693 --> 01:14:49,893
Speaker 9: basically peel them, you get the most amazing innus. So

1449
01:14:49,933 --> 01:14:51,693
Speaker 9: that's that's that's the good side of it.

1450
01:14:51,773 --> 01:14:55,733
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so cew cump is going very well. Tomato

1451
01:14:55,813 --> 01:14:59,333
Speaker 2: cherry tomatoes absolutely crushing it. Like my tomatoes for the

1452
01:14:59,373 --> 01:15:01,973
Speaker 2: first time ever taste better than the ones from the

1453
01:15:02,133 --> 01:15:05,693
Speaker 2: from the supermarket and even my strawberries do I reckon

1454
01:15:05,733 --> 01:15:08,493
Speaker 2: this year, So feeling very pleas to myself. Yeah.

1455
01:15:08,653 --> 01:15:12,613
Speaker 9: I actually had to get myself a new tunnel house

1456
01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:14,973
Speaker 9: in the world, did you because we had Yeah, well

1457
01:15:15,053 --> 01:15:17,053
Speaker 9: mine was eight meters long and I was about fifty

1458
01:15:17,173 --> 01:15:19,053
Speaker 9: years old and it just fell apart in one of

1459
01:15:19,093 --> 01:15:21,773
Speaker 9: the one of the big big winds. We had a

1460
01:15:21,813 --> 01:15:25,333
Speaker 9: couple of couples, you know, in springtime, So that's so

1461
01:15:25,413 --> 01:15:27,653
Speaker 9: that was one of the things. But I was just wondering,

1462
01:15:27,693 --> 01:15:30,693
Speaker 9: have you got from your flowering cucumbers do you have?

1463
01:15:31,693 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 9: Do you have lots of bees around there?

1464
01:15:35,613 --> 01:15:35,813
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1465
01:15:35,933 --> 01:15:38,333
Speaker 2: We do, we do. I see I've knitted them off

1466
01:15:38,773 --> 01:15:40,933
Speaker 2: so but I've left some gaps for the bees to

1467
01:15:40,933 --> 01:15:41,413
Speaker 2: get in there.

1468
01:15:42,093 --> 01:15:44,293
Speaker 9: But that's important because a lot of people have been

1469
01:15:44,293 --> 01:15:46,693
Speaker 9: complaining about the fact that they didn't get any fruit

1470
01:15:46,733 --> 01:15:49,773
Speaker 9: at all, right, And that was basically because I always

1471
01:15:49,813 --> 01:15:52,733
Speaker 9: say you've got to have some really good stuff around

1472
01:15:52,773 --> 01:15:56,733
Speaker 9: flowering plants, around your your your, your your plants, in

1473
01:15:56,853 --> 01:15:59,293
Speaker 9: order to get all the pollen aators coming. Yeah, because

1474
01:15:59,333 --> 01:16:02,253
Speaker 9: the plant thinks there's there's no there's not enough, there's

1475
01:16:02,293 --> 01:16:05,093
Speaker 9: not enough food for them, so it does that anyway.

1476
01:16:05,213 --> 01:16:08,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, long story, right, we've got to minutes, just over

1477
01:16:08,373 --> 01:16:11,413
Speaker 2: two minutes, so we're gonna do mossies now, Yeah, you can.

1478
01:16:11,533 --> 01:16:13,653
Speaker 9: I can easily tell you. We all know what mozzies

1479
01:16:13,653 --> 01:16:17,373
Speaker 9: are like all that sort of stuff. Yeah, exactly, And

1480
01:16:17,413 --> 01:16:21,253
Speaker 9: I love mozzies. They're really cool, especially especially I might

1481
01:16:21,293 --> 01:16:23,813
Speaker 9: as well go through this straight away, especially the native

1482
01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:27,413
Speaker 9: species that is the salt pool mosquito. That's the only

1483
01:16:27,453 --> 01:16:30,093
Speaker 9: species in the world that lives in salt water and

1484
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:34,053
Speaker 9: it's here in out Hero Northlands Goat Island Marine Reserve

1485
01:16:34,133 --> 01:16:37,213
Speaker 9: by have plenty kaikoa. They're even down here where we live.

1486
01:16:37,333 --> 01:16:40,453
Speaker 9: Wow and Andy. They come during the day and you

1487
01:16:40,493 --> 01:16:43,213
Speaker 9: don't have they don't make a terrible great light of noise,

1488
01:16:43,253 --> 01:16:46,413
Speaker 9: but when they bite you you'll feel all about. It's amazing,

1489
01:16:47,093 --> 01:16:50,973
Speaker 9: really cool though. But you know, here you go. The

1490
01:16:51,053 --> 01:16:54,013
Speaker 9: girls need a bit of protein to produce eggs. That

1491
01:16:54,173 --> 01:16:57,333
Speaker 9: is really what a female mosquito does and to do

1492
01:16:57,373 --> 01:17:00,973
Speaker 9: that it needs blood. So mammalian blood like us is

1493
01:17:01,013 --> 01:17:04,253
Speaker 9: what they need. And here comes the thing. I believe

1494
01:17:04,293 --> 01:17:07,453
Speaker 9: that mosquitos are actually a really great part of our

1495
01:17:07,573 --> 01:17:11,973
Speaker 9: environmental makeup, if you like, you know the rigulars that

1496
01:17:12,013 --> 01:17:14,773
Speaker 9: live in the water, they go up and down, you know,

1497
01:17:14,853 --> 01:17:19,773
Speaker 9: the regulars say, they eat bacterial soup in the water

1498
01:17:19,933 --> 01:17:23,413
Speaker 9: in your ponds. They clean the water. And the males

1499
01:17:23,773 --> 01:17:27,173
Speaker 9: are the best pollinators of our native flowers in the neighborhood.

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01:17:27,693 --> 01:17:32,653
Speaker 2: Ah really, yeah, yeah, there you go that, yeah.

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01:17:32,453 --> 01:17:34,773
Speaker 9: There you go. And finally they are the best food

1502
01:17:34,813 --> 01:17:38,733
Speaker 9: for white baits, acquatic insects and food chains that follow.

1503
01:17:39,013 --> 01:17:43,333
Speaker 9: But also the mosquitoes are food for native birds like fantails, dragonflies,

1504
01:17:43,493 --> 01:17:47,933
Speaker 9: jumping spiders, the whole cohort of useful predators. And all

1505
01:17:47,973 --> 01:17:50,493
Speaker 9: we need to do is give them one droplet of

1506
01:17:50,493 --> 01:17:53,853
Speaker 9: our blood and that'll feel the whole ecosystem.

1507
01:17:54,973 --> 01:17:57,453
Speaker 2: See, of course you're a fan of mosquitoes. Can we

1508
01:17:57,493 --> 01:18:00,173
Speaker 2: be a fan of mosquitoes and all that they do

1509
01:18:00,253 --> 01:18:02,693
Speaker 2: for the rest of the food chain, but just hate

1510
01:18:02,733 --> 01:18:04,493
Speaker 2: them when it comes to them biting us? Can we

1511
01:18:04,573 --> 01:18:06,333
Speaker 2: just can we have a mosquito that doesn't need to

1512
01:18:06,413 --> 01:18:14,373
Speaker 2: bite us rude. Isn't that easy and lose the standing water?

1513
01:18:14,453 --> 01:18:17,773
Speaker 2: I suppose, Thank you sir, We'll catch again this road

1514
01:18:17,853 --> 01:18:20,373
Speaker 2: climb past in the garden for us after eleven o'clock

1515
01:18:20,693 --> 01:18:25,173
Speaker 2: tips on having a more sustainable wedding. Plus, our music

1516
01:18:25,213 --> 01:18:28,213
Speaker 2: reviewer was that each Sharan's Mount Smart Go Media show

1517
01:18:28,333 --> 01:18:30,733
Speaker 2: last night his thoughts before midday.

1518
01:18:31,213 --> 01:18:35,053
Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

1519
01:18:35,093 --> 01:18:36,413
Speaker 1: the weekend us talks.

1520
01:19:01,613 --> 01:19:04,733
Speaker 2: Good Morning Jack, time with you on news Talks. He'd

1521
01:19:04,733 --> 01:19:06,813
Speaker 2: be for the first time this year. It is just

1522
01:19:07,053 --> 01:19:10,413
Speaker 2: so good to be back. I wouldn't say that I've

1523
01:19:10,453 --> 01:19:13,133
Speaker 2: missed work, but I've missed this show. I really do.

1524
01:19:13,253 --> 01:19:15,853
Speaker 2: I just I love spending Saturday and mornings together. So

1525
01:19:15,893 --> 01:19:18,573
Speaker 2: thank you for tuning in this morning. If you are

1526
01:19:18,693 --> 01:19:22,893
Speaker 2: heading along to Ed Sheeran this evening, it's very important

1527
01:19:22,893 --> 01:19:24,733
Speaker 2: to note that the trains aren't running in Auckland, so

1528
01:19:24,773 --> 01:19:26,893
Speaker 2: you got to take buses. They've got special event buses

1529
01:19:27,333 --> 01:19:30,453
Speaker 2: running from I think two o'clock this afternoon, and from

1530
01:19:30,533 --> 01:19:32,173
Speaker 2: all accounts, I've got a couple of mates who went

1531
01:19:32,213 --> 01:19:34,053
Speaker 2: to the show last night who said it was fantastic,

1532
01:19:34,093 --> 01:19:36,653
Speaker 2: but said it is definitely worth taking public transport if

1533
01:19:36,693 --> 01:19:38,613
Speaker 2: you can, because you are not going to be able

1534
01:19:38,613 --> 01:19:43,093
Speaker 2: to park within coui of Go Media Stadium in Mount

1535
01:19:43,133 --> 01:19:46,293
Speaker 2: Smart in Auckland. Just so good, isn't it to see

1536
01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:50,453
Speaker 2: a big show in New Zealand given all the frustration

1537
01:19:50,573 --> 01:19:52,613
Speaker 2: last year with shows that didn't stop here b at

1538
01:19:52,653 --> 01:19:57,213
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and you know what, we've got each hearing

1539
01:19:57,293 --> 01:20:00,133
Speaker 2: tonight he's playing christ Church in Wellington as well as

1540
01:20:00,173 --> 01:20:02,653
Speaker 2: he kicks off his world tour. You got Sound Splash

1541
01:20:02,733 --> 01:20:05,173
Speaker 2: in Raglan this evening as well, which should be a

1542
01:20:05,173 --> 01:20:06,613
Speaker 2: whole lot of fun. So hopefully the we're there is

1543
01:20:06,653 --> 01:20:09,093
Speaker 2: ideal for that. If you are heating along this evening,

1544
01:20:09,213 --> 01:20:12,213
Speaker 2: let us know. And before midday our music reviewer is

1545
01:20:12,253 --> 01:20:14,213
Speaker 2: going to be in. He went to the ed here

1546
01:20:14,253 --> 01:20:16,333
Speaker 2: and show in Auckland last night, so he's going to

1547
01:20:16,333 --> 01:20:18,533
Speaker 2: give us his thoughts on the show. Apparently some of

1548
01:20:18,533 --> 01:20:22,093
Speaker 2: the production really sets it apart from previous shows, so

1549
01:20:22,133 --> 01:20:25,853
Speaker 2: you've got the biggest ever screen in New Zealand concert history.

1550
01:20:25,853 --> 01:20:27,933
Speaker 2: But as well as that, some of the actual staging

1551
01:20:27,973 --> 01:20:30,693
Speaker 2: sounds quite interesting. So he'll give us the details on

1552
01:20:30,733 --> 01:20:32,733
Speaker 2: that very shortly right now, though it is nine minutes

1553
01:20:32,773 --> 01:20:36,573
Speaker 2: past eleven, Jack Ta can't catch up with our sustainability

1554
01:20:36,693 --> 01:20:39,813
Speaker 2: expert Kate Hall is here with us this morning. Good morning.

1555
01:20:40,133 --> 01:20:43,613
Speaker 2: What nine years? Nine years? That is a hell of

1556
01:20:43,613 --> 01:20:46,373
Speaker 2: an achievement. Did you when the date rolled over to

1557
01:20:46,413 --> 01:20:48,413
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, did you think back to your wedding

1558
01:20:48,493 --> 01:20:51,013
Speaker 2: day and think, oh my gosh, nine years, that is

1559
01:20:51,093 --> 01:20:51,973
Speaker 2: quite the achievement.

1560
01:20:52,693 --> 01:20:58,213
Speaker 20: Yeah, it feels like yesterday, but also yeah, definitely we

1561
01:20:58,293 --> 01:21:00,973
Speaker 20: fit a lot into the last nine It feels.

1562
01:21:00,733 --> 01:21:04,853
Speaker 2: Like yesterday, but also not. Yeah, no, I get that.

1563
01:21:04,933 --> 01:21:10,373
Speaker 2: But you, as we all would expect, approach your wedding

1564
01:21:10,453 --> 01:21:12,693
Speaker 2: with in a very Kate hallway, and that you tried

1565
01:21:12,693 --> 01:21:14,773
Speaker 2: to make it as sustainable as possible, because wedding is

1566
01:21:14,773 --> 01:21:16,733
Speaker 2: one of those good examples of things in life where

1567
01:21:16,773 --> 01:21:19,333
Speaker 2: actually there can be a whole lot of consumption for

1568
01:21:19,373 --> 01:21:21,373
Speaker 2: what is ultimately six or eight hours.

1569
01:21:22,973 --> 01:21:25,893
Speaker 20: Yep, No, I definitely. I was kind of like on

1570
01:21:25,933 --> 01:21:29,133
Speaker 20: the cusp of being ethically Kate back then. So there's

1571
01:21:29,133 --> 01:21:32,253
Speaker 20: some things I would have done even more sustainably if

1572
01:21:32,293 --> 01:21:35,493
Speaker 20: I did it all over again in twenty twenty six.

1573
01:21:35,693 --> 01:21:39,933
Speaker 20: But I looked at things with a leans of how

1574
01:21:39,973 --> 01:21:43,293
Speaker 20: can I do this? Secondhand? How can I do this

1575
01:21:43,493 --> 01:21:45,333
Speaker 20: like on a smaller budget. I think doing it more

1576
01:21:45,373 --> 01:21:48,293
Speaker 20: sustainably actually meant we spent a lot less money. Yeah,

1577
01:21:48,653 --> 01:21:51,133
Speaker 20: and how can I really like vote with my pocket

1578
01:21:51,213 --> 01:21:55,293
Speaker 20: because you know, wedding, you're spending quite a bit of money,

1579
01:21:55,333 --> 01:21:58,013
Speaker 20: even if you're doing it on the cheap side, how

1580
01:21:58,013 --> 01:22:00,813
Speaker 20: can I actually use this money to benefit small businesses?

1581
01:22:00,933 --> 01:22:04,253
Speaker 20: And yeah, it made for just much better day. Our

1582
01:22:04,293 --> 01:22:05,933
Speaker 20: friends and family still rave about it.

1583
01:22:06,013 --> 01:22:08,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh nice, Okay, So run us through some tips

1584
01:22:08,613 --> 01:22:11,893
Speaker 2: then for other people who might be considering a sustainable wedding.

1585
01:22:12,933 --> 01:22:15,213
Speaker 20: So, I mean there's lots of elements to a wedding

1586
01:22:15,253 --> 01:22:19,853
Speaker 20: if we start with clothing. So my dress was ethically

1587
01:22:19,853 --> 01:22:23,093
Speaker 20: made in India, though there are lots of beautiful, amazing

1588
01:22:23,253 --> 01:22:27,253
Speaker 20: and hand dresses you can get. They're thinking about what

1589
01:22:27,333 --> 01:22:31,573
Speaker 20: you're gonna wear. Term actually wore some op shop short shorts.

1590
01:22:31,973 --> 01:22:35,573
Speaker 20: Was very short shorts on at the wedding day, very

1591
01:22:35,653 --> 01:22:38,573
Speaker 20: kind of New Zealand classics, stubby style. And then all

1592
01:22:38,613 --> 01:22:40,893
Speaker 20: of our we didn't have a bridal party, we had

1593
01:22:40,893 --> 01:22:43,333
Speaker 20: a bridal team and we all went shopping together and

1594
01:22:43,373 --> 01:22:46,573
Speaker 20: they could wear whatever they wanted, you know, because I

1595
01:22:46,613 --> 01:22:49,973
Speaker 20: think the bridle the bridal party has to spend hundreds

1596
01:22:49,973 --> 01:22:52,773
Speaker 20: of dollars on their out they may not wear again.

1597
01:22:53,693 --> 01:22:56,093
Speaker 20: This meant everyone felt like they could express who they

1598
01:22:56,133 --> 01:22:56,733
Speaker 20: were as well.

1599
01:22:56,973 --> 01:23:00,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never I've never this is a personal tasting.

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01:23:00,213 --> 01:23:02,533
Speaker 2: I've never really been into the into the bridal party

1601
01:23:02,573 --> 01:23:05,653
Speaker 2: all wearing the same thing. Never, It's never been my

1602
01:23:05,693 --> 01:23:07,453
Speaker 2: cup of tea. But but you know, I mean, each

1603
01:23:07,573 --> 01:23:09,733
Speaker 2: each of their own I suppose, and going down the

1604
01:23:09,773 --> 01:23:12,453
Speaker 2: op shopping they like you say, it gives it gives

1605
01:23:12,493 --> 01:23:14,653
Speaker 2: even a bit of a chance to show their own

1606
01:23:14,693 --> 01:23:15,893
Speaker 2: individuality and stuff.

1607
01:23:16,013 --> 01:23:19,573
Speaker 20: Yeah, exactly. And everyone loved going up shopping. It was

1608
01:23:19,613 --> 01:23:21,373
Speaker 20: it was a fun kind of activity that we all

1609
01:23:21,413 --> 01:23:24,453
Speaker 20: got together. They got to meet each other and get

1610
01:23:24,493 --> 01:23:26,853
Speaker 20: to know each other, so yeah, it was. It was

1611
01:23:27,613 --> 01:23:30,893
Speaker 20: fun to do kind of our clothing that way. And

1612
01:23:31,013 --> 01:23:36,173
Speaker 20: the rings, my rings were heirlooms. My wedding band was

1613
01:23:36,653 --> 01:23:38,693
Speaker 20: from a mom's side of the family, and engagement ring

1614
01:23:38,813 --> 01:23:42,893
Speaker 20: from my dad's signs and we got to ring maids locally.

1615
01:23:43,653 --> 01:23:47,653
Speaker 20: So yep, that was simple. And one of my favorite

1616
01:23:47,693 --> 01:23:52,733
Speaker 20: things was the flowers. So the floristry industry can be

1617
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:55,973
Speaker 20: really damaging to our planet because flowers, you know, out

1618
01:23:55,973 --> 01:24:02,453
Speaker 20: of season, can be grown overseas, grown with pesticides imported. Yeah,

1619
01:24:02,573 --> 01:24:05,053
Speaker 20: just not a not a good idea when we have

1620
01:24:05,973 --> 01:24:10,013
Speaker 20: so many flowers we can grow here, and so I

1621
01:24:10,053 --> 01:24:12,333
Speaker 20: know everyone can do this. Not everyone has a father

1622
01:24:12,493 --> 01:24:15,453
Speaker 20: is awesome asign. But he converted part of his lawn

1623
01:24:15,533 --> 01:24:17,253
Speaker 20: into a garden and grew.

1624
01:24:17,093 --> 01:24:20,133
Speaker 2: Some flowers from Oh that's nice.

1625
01:24:20,493 --> 01:24:23,173
Speaker 20: Yeah, I remember walking down holding a bunch of sun

1626
01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:26,613
Speaker 20: flowers and spotting a little caterpillar letting me down, that

1627
01:24:27,813 --> 01:24:30,013
Speaker 20: is walking along. So yeah, that was fun and we

1628
01:24:30,093 --> 01:24:34,973
Speaker 20: got little flowers from a sustainable florest that we could

1629
01:24:35,733 --> 01:24:37,173
Speaker 20: have good to the bunches.

1630
01:24:37,293 --> 01:24:39,533
Speaker 2: Okay, so if someone was doing it today, let's start

1631
01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:44,053
Speaker 2: off with the dress, because that's obviously a big focus

1632
01:24:44,093 --> 01:24:47,653
Speaker 2: on the day, and rethinking the dress, going secondhand, going rented,

1633
01:24:47,693 --> 01:24:48,933
Speaker 2: something like that can be a good option.

1634
01:24:50,013 --> 01:24:54,893
Speaker 20: Absolutely, I think, yeah, renting is a great idea. I

1635
01:24:54,893 --> 01:24:56,893
Speaker 20: think it's a great idea for all of our former

1636
01:24:56,893 --> 01:25:00,493
Speaker 20: occasience really, because you're not you like, are not going

1637
01:25:00,533 --> 01:25:03,373
Speaker 20: to wear that dress again, or buying a dress and

1638
01:25:03,413 --> 01:25:05,773
Speaker 20: wearing a dress that you can convert into something that

1639
01:25:05,813 --> 01:25:10,133
Speaker 20: you're going to use you know, another time, or you know, yeah,

1640
01:25:10,253 --> 01:25:13,733
Speaker 20: something that isn't just one where I think people can

1641
01:25:13,773 --> 01:25:15,933
Speaker 20: spend you know, like five grand on a wedding dress

1642
01:25:16,533 --> 01:25:20,253
Speaker 20: and where at once that cost per where is Yeah.

1643
01:25:20,293 --> 01:25:24,133
Speaker 2: Very extreme, very high extravagance.

1644
01:25:24,253 --> 01:25:24,493
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1645
01:25:24,773 --> 01:25:27,453
Speaker 20: One of the key things about a sustainable wedding tours

1646
01:25:27,973 --> 01:25:29,413
Speaker 20: if you think about, you know, what goes on the

1647
01:25:29,493 --> 01:25:33,053
Speaker 20: rubbish at the end of the wedding day. Often it

1648
01:25:33,133 --> 01:25:35,573
Speaker 20: is the day court and the food.

1649
01:25:36,253 --> 01:25:36,533
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1650
01:25:36,773 --> 01:25:39,293
Speaker 2: True, those are the.

1651
01:25:38,853 --> 01:25:43,253
Speaker 20: Two main waste streams I reckon, and so thinking about

1652
01:25:43,293 --> 01:25:45,013
Speaker 20: where is your food waste going to go? So we

1653
01:25:45,093 --> 01:25:51,053
Speaker 20: had a commercial composting service that we had been at

1654
01:25:51,053 --> 01:25:52,933
Speaker 20: our wedding. Our wedding was kind of like assistible in

1655
01:25:52,973 --> 01:25:56,933
Speaker 20: the lawn food trucks and so all of the food

1656
01:25:56,973 --> 01:25:58,773
Speaker 20: waste went there and they could take it away and

1657
01:25:59,093 --> 01:26:01,333
Speaker 20: I knew that it would be composted.

1658
01:26:01,533 --> 01:26:01,773
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1659
01:26:01,893 --> 01:26:04,613
Speaker 2: Nice, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, they

1660
01:26:04,653 --> 01:26:06,653
Speaker 2: can just be obscene amounts left over, right. I remember

1661
01:26:06,693 --> 01:26:09,813
Speaker 2: at my sister's wedding, she her parents lived just outside

1662
01:26:09,853 --> 01:26:12,013
Speaker 2: of Nelson on a big property and it was at

1663
01:26:12,013 --> 01:26:15,013
Speaker 2: their house and at the end of the night they

1664
01:26:15,213 --> 01:26:18,773
Speaker 2: ordered in like literally thirty pizzas you know, for like

1665
01:26:18,853 --> 01:26:21,173
Speaker 2: midnight after we would have been dancing, and it was

1666
01:26:21,173 --> 01:26:23,173
Speaker 2: fair to say there were a few pizzas left over.

1667
01:26:23,213 --> 01:26:25,533
Speaker 2: But one of my favorite activities in the days thereafter

1668
01:26:25,733 --> 01:26:28,373
Speaker 2: was going and opening up these pizza boxes and throwing

1669
01:26:28,413 --> 01:26:32,693
Speaker 2: a whole pizzas to their pigs. Oh and watching these

1670
01:26:32,693 --> 01:26:36,093
Speaker 2: pigs get through the pizzas. So loved it. It was

1671
01:26:36,133 --> 01:26:39,213
Speaker 2: just it was heaven for them.

1672
01:26:38,413 --> 01:26:40,573
Speaker 20: Pigs and chickens. Great way to get.

1673
01:26:40,493 --> 01:26:42,453
Speaker 2: Rid of to get rid of stuff. So you talked

1674
01:26:42,533 --> 01:26:44,853
Speaker 2: us through the flowers you grew your own, you could

1675
01:26:44,933 --> 01:26:46,773
Speaker 2: I suppose you could have dry flowers as well, right,

1676
01:26:46,813 --> 01:26:47,653
Speaker 2: they're kind of invoted.

1677
01:26:48,173 --> 01:26:51,093
Speaker 20: Yeah, and then you can actually keep those as Day

1678
01:26:51,133 --> 01:26:53,213
Speaker 20: four around your own house and you know, you can

1679
01:26:53,253 --> 01:26:53,973
Speaker 20: remember the day.

1680
01:26:54,093 --> 01:26:58,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. What about what about like lab grown diamonds and

1681
01:26:58,373 --> 01:27:00,093
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Do you feel like that is

1682
01:27:00,173 --> 01:27:03,653
Speaker 2: making the ring side of things a bit more sustainable?

1683
01:27:04,453 --> 01:27:04,693
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1684
01:27:04,773 --> 01:27:09,093
Speaker 20: I think in some ways, yes, I think we have

1685
01:27:09,293 --> 01:27:13,853
Speaker 20: so many items that already exist. We've got so like

1686
01:27:13,893 --> 01:27:16,613
Speaker 20: if you go into an antique store, sickn handshop, we

1687
01:27:16,813 --> 01:27:20,653
Speaker 20: just has so so much jewelry. So I think like

1688
01:27:20,733 --> 01:27:24,813
Speaker 20: even Tim recently gave me a ring for the Bersidel

1689
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:30,253
Speaker 20: first daughter, and it was made from diamonds and gold

1690
01:27:30,493 --> 01:27:34,493
Speaker 20: that were from a state probably that has been you

1691
01:27:34,533 --> 01:27:38,813
Speaker 20: know that flipped in this lady she in Melbourne. She

1692
01:27:38,973 --> 01:27:42,893
Speaker 20: takes diamonds and gold and up cycles them and I

1693
01:27:42,933 --> 01:27:46,293
Speaker 20: think that's just yeah, that just makes so much more

1694
01:27:46,333 --> 01:27:49,093
Speaker 20: sense to me to use the materials we already have

1695
01:27:49,173 --> 01:27:50,573
Speaker 20: than we don't even need to make news.

1696
01:27:50,853 --> 01:27:54,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes total sense. Hey, thank you so much.

1697
01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:56,693
Speaker 2: And yeah, it sounds like even though you weren't in

1698
01:27:56,773 --> 01:28:00,733
Speaker 2: full ethically cape mode nine years ago, you were still

1699
01:28:00,773 --> 01:28:03,253
Speaker 2: pretty sustainble when it comes to your wedding. Anyone who

1700
01:28:03,333 --> 01:28:06,173
Speaker 2: organizes a commercial compost stuff for afterwards, I think we can,

1701
01:28:06,373 --> 01:28:09,693
Speaker 2: I say, has crossed the rubicon. Thank you so much, Kate.

1702
01:28:09,733 --> 01:28:11,493
Speaker 2: We'll put those tips up on the News Talks. He'd

1703
01:28:11,493 --> 01:28:13,853
Speaker 2: be website and catch you again very soon. Happy New Year.

1704
01:28:14,493 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 11: Yeah to you too.

1705
01:28:15,533 --> 01:28:18,293
Speaker 2: That is Kate Hall, our sustainability expert. You can find

1706
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:21,093
Speaker 2: her all the social media platforms, of course, by searching

1707
01:28:21,213 --> 01:28:25,133
Speaker 2: ethically Kate. In a couple of minutes, our travel correspondent

1708
01:28:25,253 --> 01:28:28,373
Speaker 2: is in. He's taking us to County Donnie Gall for

1709
01:28:28,413 --> 01:28:31,013
Speaker 2: his first segment of the year sixteen past eleven on

1710
01:28:31,053 --> 01:28:33,733
Speaker 2: News Talks. He'd be nineteen past eleven, you rejected him

1711
01:28:33,773 --> 01:28:36,253
Speaker 2: on newstalks, he'd be Mike Yardley is here with us

1712
01:28:36,293 --> 01:28:45,053
Speaker 2: this morning. Good morning, sir. Oh, hello, sir Mike. Hang

1713
01:28:45,053 --> 01:28:46,533
Speaker 2: on a second. We'll see if we can get Mike's

1714
01:28:46,573 --> 01:28:48,453
Speaker 2: fader up. We'll make sure he's with us this morning.

1715
01:28:48,493 --> 01:28:51,453
Speaker 2: He should be here for the first time this year.

1716
01:28:51,533 --> 01:28:56,973
Speaker 2: Let's time again. Mike Yardley come through, sir, jab very good.

1717
01:28:58,093 --> 01:29:00,053
Speaker 2: Nice to hear your voice. How's your summer been?

1718
01:29:00,933 --> 01:29:01,333
Speaker 17: Very good?

1719
01:29:01,333 --> 01:29:03,053
Speaker 15: I was just saying to Olivia I was in your

1720
01:29:03,093 --> 01:29:08,493
Speaker 15: second home yesterday and Takaka four seasons of weather.

1721
01:29:08,253 --> 01:29:10,653
Speaker 2: In one day, so that sounds about right.

1722
01:29:11,173 --> 01:29:13,253
Speaker 15: The place is certainly pumping, as I'm sure you know

1723
01:29:13,333 --> 01:29:13,733
Speaker 15: this jet.

1724
01:29:13,813 --> 01:29:16,013
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this time of year, it's absolutely crazy

1725
01:29:16,053 --> 01:29:17,973
Speaker 2: Golden Bay. I meant, Golden has always got a bit

1726
01:29:17,973 --> 01:29:21,213
Speaker 2: of crazy, which is half the attract Yes, the numbers

1727
01:29:21,653 --> 01:29:23,853
Speaker 2: it does, it does hit a new level at this time.

1728
01:29:24,213 --> 01:29:25,893
Speaker 2: Did you get yourself a real fruit ice cream?

1729
01:29:27,133 --> 01:29:27,573
Speaker 15: I did not.

1730
01:29:28,293 --> 01:29:30,293
Speaker 2: I did not missing out, Mike, You're missing out.

1731
01:29:30,293 --> 01:29:33,013
Speaker 15: I've had some fabulous raspberries, and I've got those fruit

1732
01:29:33,093 --> 01:29:36,413
Speaker 15: stalls all around Golden Bay Marbles, aren't I know?

1733
01:29:36,453 --> 01:29:39,013
Speaker 2: They're amazing my mom. My mom knows all of the

1734
01:29:39,893 --> 01:29:42,133
Speaker 2: growers at each one, so she's always that stuff. And

1735
01:29:42,173 --> 01:29:44,933
Speaker 2: I'm going to door riens this weekend and I get

1736
01:29:44,933 --> 01:29:46,893
Speaker 2: these and she got a place where she gets a

1737
01:29:46,933 --> 01:29:48,573
Speaker 2: black breeze, and got a different place where she gets

1738
01:29:48,613 --> 01:29:51,133
Speaker 2: their raspberries. And you know, it's it's a bit of

1739
01:29:51,133 --> 01:29:53,853
Speaker 2: an operation, but yeah, it's an embarrassment of riches at

1740
01:29:53,853 --> 01:29:56,973
Speaker 2: this time. It really really is. But we are focusing

1741
01:29:57,133 --> 01:30:01,853
Speaker 2: on fields a little slightly further afield this week Adventures

1742
01:30:01,853 --> 01:30:04,693
Speaker 2: and Canty Donny Gaull. So we were road tripping Ireland

1743
01:30:04,813 --> 01:30:07,413
Speaker 2: just before Christmas, and you've got one installment from that

1744
01:30:07,493 --> 01:30:10,013
Speaker 2: trip that you want to talk us through. Why is

1745
01:30:10,053 --> 01:30:13,613
Speaker 2: County donney Gall dubbed the Forgotten County?

1746
01:30:13,933 --> 01:30:16,493
Speaker 15: Well, I thought, because it is dubbed the Forgotten County,

1747
01:30:16,573 --> 01:30:19,013
Speaker 15: I should not forget to talk about the Forgotten County

1748
01:30:19,013 --> 01:30:21,893
Speaker 15: with you, Jack. So the thing about it is, no

1749
01:30:21,973 --> 01:30:24,253
Speaker 15: matter where you're starting a road trip in Island from,

1750
01:30:24,373 --> 01:30:28,013
Speaker 15: let's say Dublin or Belfast or Cork, donny Gall is

1751
01:30:28,093 --> 01:30:31,013
Speaker 15: so far flung, tucked up in the northwest of the

1752
01:30:31,013 --> 01:30:35,453
Speaker 15: country that it is not a passing through sort of experience.

1753
01:30:35,493 --> 01:30:38,773
Speaker 15: So a lot of travelers. Most probably give it the flick,

1754
01:30:38,893 --> 01:30:42,253
Speaker 15: They skip it, they me miss it. But it's the

1755
01:30:42,293 --> 01:30:46,253
Speaker 15: sort of place that if you purposefully decide to visit

1756
01:30:46,293 --> 01:30:48,613
Speaker 15: it and it will just cast you under its spell.

1757
01:30:48,653 --> 01:30:53,893
Speaker 15: It's wind whipped a sublime Atlantic coastline. You've got cinematic scenery,

1758
01:30:54,413 --> 01:30:58,613
Speaker 15: charismatic heritage towns, and all across the landscape it's just

1759
01:30:58,813 --> 01:31:02,053
Speaker 15: speckled with whispers of the past. Really is the sort

1760
01:31:02,093 --> 01:31:05,013
Speaker 15: of place that just cannot fail to seduce you.

1761
01:31:05,413 --> 01:31:08,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has a So talk to us about Sleeve League.

1762
01:31:09,693 --> 01:31:13,893
Speaker 15: Yes, these monsters Jack are the highest accessible sea cliffs

1763
01:31:14,013 --> 01:31:18,933
Speaker 15: in Europe. So you've got this stunning courtsite marvel vertically

1764
01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:23,133
Speaker 15: thrusting up from the Atlantic, six hundred meters high, and

1765
01:31:23,173 --> 01:31:26,093
Speaker 15: when you get to the top of the cliffs, it's

1766
01:31:26,173 --> 01:31:30,013
Speaker 15: so high you cannot hear the churning ocean. It's just silence.

1767
01:31:31,693 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 15: So people in Ireland have been to Island may have

1768
01:31:34,333 --> 01:31:37,493
Speaker 15: probably heard of the Cliffs of Moer. They're further south,

1769
01:31:38,533 --> 01:31:42,973
Speaker 15: and Sleeve League is like a supersized version of these cliffs.

1770
01:31:43,173 --> 01:31:45,773
Speaker 15: They are just so massive and so high. So I

1771
01:31:45,853 --> 01:31:48,853
Speaker 15: went into a place called Bunglass Viewpoint. That's where you

1772
01:31:48,893 --> 01:31:51,773
Speaker 15: go for the money shot of that justing sprawl of

1773
01:31:51,813 --> 01:31:56,733
Speaker 15: cliffs and the mineral deposits in the cliff face are enchanting,

1774
01:31:56,813 --> 01:31:59,853
Speaker 15: so they sort of glow in tones of amber and

1775
01:31:59,973 --> 01:32:04,453
Speaker 15: white and red on a clear day. Turnaround, and right

1776
01:32:04,573 --> 01:32:09,333
Speaker 15: behind you islands Conic Table, Mountain Ben Bolden just stamping

1777
01:32:09,373 --> 01:32:13,693
Speaker 15: its heat on the horizon. So you've got all the elements.

1778
01:32:14,293 --> 01:32:18,253
Speaker 2: Sounds incredible. Were there some nice little trails or hikes there?

1779
01:32:18,813 --> 01:32:23,613
Speaker 15: Yeah, there are so many hikes on offer. The one

1780
01:32:23,613 --> 01:32:25,613
Speaker 15: that I would suggest, if you do want to stretch

1781
01:32:25,613 --> 01:32:28,173
Speaker 15: your legs and add a dollarth of history to your hike,

1782
01:32:28,773 --> 01:32:33,053
Speaker 15: go for the Pilgrim's Path. And its name as actually

1783
01:32:33,053 --> 01:32:37,053
Speaker 15: a throwback to Ireland's penal laws under English rule when

1784
01:32:38,373 --> 01:32:44,013
Speaker 15: Irish Catholic dissenters were forced to convert to the Anglican Church.

1785
01:32:44,053 --> 01:32:46,893
Speaker 15: So what happened was this is quite amazing in itself.

1786
01:32:47,173 --> 01:32:50,933
Speaker 15: Many of these Irish descenters, when they refused, they decided

1787
01:32:50,973 --> 01:32:54,173
Speaker 15: they would go and meet in secret in remote places

1788
01:32:54,213 --> 01:32:56,973
Speaker 15: like Sleeve Leg God for saken place, you know, have

1789
01:32:57,093 --> 01:32:59,533
Speaker 15: a mass. But that's what they did in these little

1790
01:32:59,853 --> 01:33:03,773
Speaker 15: makeshift churches by basically building a stack of rocks as

1791
01:33:03,773 --> 01:33:06,933
Speaker 15: a church. And you can see these old mass rocks

1792
01:33:07,053 --> 01:33:10,853
Speaker 15: as they're called, all along the path. It is quite amazing, Yeah, incredible.

1793
01:33:10,893 --> 01:33:14,653
Speaker 2: So from Sleeve League to Donegall Town, where should you

1794
01:33:14,693 --> 01:33:15,773
Speaker 2: stop along the way?

1795
01:33:16,533 --> 01:33:21,133
Speaker 15: Ah, the countryside is ridiculously good looking, so just soak

1796
01:33:21,253 --> 01:33:25,653
Speaker 15: up that scenery all along the way. It's all crisscrossed

1797
01:33:25,653 --> 01:33:29,253
Speaker 15: with those dry stone walls twisting ribbons of road. But

1798
01:33:29,413 --> 01:33:32,333
Speaker 15: some of the attractions I really enjoyed. They've got some

1799
01:33:32,413 --> 01:33:37,133
Speaker 15: stupendous bone white sandy beaches like the Cross Beach and

1800
01:33:37,253 --> 01:33:41,613
Speaker 15: Fintra Beach. I had both beaches to myself body exfoliating

1801
01:33:41,653 --> 01:33:45,853
Speaker 15: and supreme win left solitude they had today. Another really

1802
01:33:45,893 --> 01:33:50,173
Speaker 15: cool place is called Clogan Salmon Leap and it's by

1803
01:33:50,293 --> 01:33:54,533
Speaker 15: Belly Boffy. Now this is home to the most incredible

1804
01:33:54,613 --> 01:33:57,693
Speaker 15: site of salmon leaping upstream on the River Finn And

1805
01:33:57,733 --> 01:34:02,413
Speaker 15: they don't leap upstream jeck, they actually leap up waterfalls

1806
01:34:02,973 --> 01:34:08,093
Speaker 15: as part of their migration to sports. I only had

1807
01:34:08,293 --> 01:34:13,293
Speaker 15: just missed the bloody migration home, so I missed it

1808
01:34:13,373 --> 01:34:16,333
Speaker 15: by a week. But if you go there late summer

1809
01:34:16,373 --> 01:34:21,213
Speaker 15: early autumn after rain, particularly apparently those salmonisco nuts.

1810
01:34:21,333 --> 01:34:23,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, does that mean there's good seafood?

1811
01:34:23,853 --> 01:34:27,453
Speaker 15: Oh yes, my god, you will have a ball feasting

1812
01:34:27,653 --> 01:34:30,693
Speaker 15: on the Atlantic. I went to this really cool village

1813
01:34:31,093 --> 01:34:34,493
Speaker 15: called killy Begs and it's quite a small village but

1814
01:34:34,573 --> 01:34:39,093
Speaker 15: it's home to the most enormous commercial fishing port, Ireland's busiest.

1815
01:34:39,893 --> 01:34:43,453
Speaker 15: So they've got all these really old salty pubs which

1816
01:34:43,533 --> 01:34:49,893
Speaker 15: deliver the most incredible, absurdly generous seafood chowders. The Irish

1817
01:34:50,253 --> 01:34:53,053
Speaker 15: monkfish I would highly recommend. And what a lot of

1818
01:34:53,093 --> 01:34:56,133
Speaker 15: people are doing I noticed is they are basically doing

1819
01:34:56,813 --> 01:35:00,053
Speaker 15: the seafood equivalent of a pub call. So that'll just

1820
01:35:00,093 --> 01:35:02,733
Speaker 15: sort of like go from one parble cafe to the

1821
01:35:02,773 --> 01:35:06,893
Speaker 15: next on a sampling trek around killy Begs, having all

1822
01:35:06,933 --> 01:35:10,373
Speaker 15: sorts of succulent seafood dishes while you watch the fishing

1823
01:35:10,373 --> 01:35:12,373
Speaker 15: boats like in and out of port. That's a good

1824
01:35:12,453 --> 01:35:12,813
Speaker 15: day out.

1825
01:35:12,893 --> 01:35:14,453
Speaker 2: Oh how good. It's kind of like the Spanish and

1826
01:35:15,213 --> 01:35:16,653
Speaker 2: you know, going have a little tap us or a

1827
01:35:16,693 --> 01:35:20,493
Speaker 2: little pinch us somewhere else the next Yeah, so Donegall

1828
01:35:20,533 --> 01:35:23,573
Speaker 2: was the power base for the O'donnald clan, right, yes,

1829
01:35:23,693 --> 01:35:24,333
Speaker 2: So if you.

1830
01:35:24,413 --> 01:35:27,773
Speaker 15: Know of any O'Donnell's. Chances are donne Gaure will feature

1831
01:35:27,813 --> 01:35:30,613
Speaker 15: in their family tree. And this o'donnald plan, this is

1832
01:35:30,733 --> 01:35:33,333
Speaker 15: like the stuff of movies. They ruled the roost in

1833
01:35:33,373 --> 01:35:37,653
Speaker 15: these parts for four hundred years. They had forty two castles,

1834
01:35:37,893 --> 01:35:40,453
Speaker 15: they had nine monasteries. They were one of the most

1835
01:35:40,533 --> 01:35:45,173
Speaker 15: powerful families or dynasties really Ireland has ever seen. And

1836
01:35:45,213 --> 01:35:47,853
Speaker 15: then it all turned to castad when the English rolled

1837
01:35:47,893 --> 01:35:50,853
Speaker 15: into town. I went to donne Gaull Castle, which is

1838
01:35:50,893 --> 01:35:53,493
Speaker 15: in the heart of Donegull Town. It was ruined but

1839
01:35:53,653 --> 01:35:56,733
Speaker 15: has been restored and it does the most incredible job

1840
01:35:57,453 --> 01:36:02,173
Speaker 15: vividly walking you through the battlescarred story of the mighty o'donnalds.

1841
01:36:02,213 --> 01:36:04,373
Speaker 15: It really is something that needs to be put on

1842
01:36:04,453 --> 01:36:05,853
Speaker 15: the big screen. It is so epic.

1843
01:36:06,013 --> 01:36:08,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I took your interest in Donnegaull Town.

1844
01:36:09,853 --> 01:36:12,853
Speaker 15: Very vibrant, very colorful town jack so lots of FF's

1845
01:36:12,893 --> 01:36:15,533
Speaker 15: and pubs are awesome dining. I tucked into a breast

1846
01:36:15,533 --> 01:36:20,293
Speaker 15: of pigeon, sadly not one of our native wood pigeons,

1847
01:36:20,813 --> 01:36:25,453
Speaker 15: so maybe not a tasty no exactly. It did come

1848
01:36:25,453 --> 01:36:28,413
Speaker 15: with pumpkin beetfruit and pomegranates, which I've decided is a

1849
01:36:28,533 --> 01:36:31,693
Speaker 15: very good mix with the breast of pigeon. Apparently that's

1850
01:36:31,733 --> 01:36:33,973
Speaker 15: to local staple. Apparently the pigeons like they're going out

1851
01:36:33,973 --> 01:36:37,853
Speaker 15: of business over there. Fantastic independent shops and this is

1852
01:36:37,893 --> 01:36:40,813
Speaker 15: something which just really has stuck with me about Ireland.

1853
01:36:41,493 --> 01:36:43,893
Speaker 15: A lot of their towns they don't have the diamer

1854
01:36:43,973 --> 01:36:48,173
Speaker 15: dozen chain stores, you know, a lot of independent stores.

1855
01:36:48,213 --> 01:36:51,613
Speaker 15: And virtually every Ilish Irish town I went into has

1856
01:36:51,653 --> 01:36:56,333
Speaker 15: got its own family owned and operated department store. So

1857
01:36:56,413 --> 01:36:58,693
Speaker 15: Donney Gaultown has got McGee. It's been going one hundred

1858
01:36:58,693 --> 01:37:01,053
Speaker 15: and sixty years and it's sort of like where you

1859
01:37:01,173 --> 01:37:03,013
Speaker 15: want to go if you want to buy some between

1860
01:37:03,093 --> 01:37:07,733
Speaker 15: clothing or linen or crystal. Just such a distinctive shopping

1861
01:37:07,773 --> 01:37:08,973
Speaker 15: experience in Ireland.

1862
01:37:09,093 --> 01:37:11,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, this sounds like a lot of fun. Gosh,

1863
01:37:11,253 --> 01:37:13,613
Speaker 2: I'm really envious Mike as always, but that does sound

1864
01:37:13,653 --> 01:37:18,133
Speaker 2: really really interesting. And yeah, the Forgotten County maybe, but

1865
01:37:18,253 --> 01:37:20,933
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be by the sounds of things. Thank you

1866
01:37:21,013 --> 01:37:21,493
Speaker 2: very much, sir.

1867
01:37:22,333 --> 01:37:22,973
Speaker 5: Where let you go?

1868
01:37:23,613 --> 01:37:23,853
Speaker 4: Yes?

1869
01:37:24,253 --> 01:37:25,413
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about Razor?

1870
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:31,213
Speaker 15: I was waiting. I feel genuinely really sad about it.

1871
01:37:31,253 --> 01:37:33,853
Speaker 15: I think there could have been otherwise New Zealand Rugby

1872
01:37:33,853 --> 01:37:36,573
Speaker 15: and Captain Kirk could have handled this. For example, picking

1873
01:37:36,613 --> 01:37:40,613
Speaker 15: up your editorial, if Kirk and friends have said, Raiser,

1874
01:37:40,853 --> 01:37:44,333
Speaker 15: we really think Addie Savia should be captain and basically

1875
01:37:44,333 --> 01:37:47,493
Speaker 15: give him an automatum, why was that not an option?

1876
01:37:48,613 --> 01:37:51,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess then he'd feel like he's

1877
01:37:51,533 --> 01:37:55,453
Speaker 2: being undermined or something. Do you know what I have to.

1878
01:37:55,413 --> 01:37:57,133
Speaker 15: Say, arguably have undermined him?

1879
01:37:57,173 --> 01:37:59,733
Speaker 2: Well no, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

1880
01:37:59,773 --> 01:38:03,013
Speaker 2: But I think what has been interesting is that over

1881
01:38:03,053 --> 01:38:05,853
Speaker 2: the last few days there hasn't been really full throated

1882
01:38:05,893 --> 01:38:10,773
Speaker 2: criticism of this decision. Apart from Mirage just then. There

1883
01:38:10,773 --> 01:38:12,413
Speaker 2: aren't heaps of people who are saying this is a

1884
01:38:12,493 --> 01:38:15,373
Speaker 2: terrible call, this is a disaster. I'm sure there are

1885
01:38:15,413 --> 01:38:17,813
Speaker 2: some critics, but there aren't heaps of them. I don't

1886
01:38:17,813 --> 01:38:21,693
Speaker 2: think anyone could argue that it was going really well,

1887
01:38:22,933 --> 01:38:25,213
Speaker 2: which is that it couldn't have gone well and not

1888
01:38:25,253 --> 01:38:26,893
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it only had a couple of years.

1889
01:38:26,933 --> 01:38:28,693
Speaker 2: I totally get that, But you.

1890
01:38:28,653 --> 01:38:31,813
Speaker 15: Know what number two ranked in the world are yes.

1891
01:38:31,533 --> 01:38:34,093
Speaker 2: Yes, and lots of things are outside of his control.

1892
01:38:34,133 --> 01:38:37,053
Speaker 2: I think, first of which being that the degree to

1893
01:38:37,093 --> 01:38:40,213
Speaker 2: which other teams have improved over the last few years.

1894
01:38:40,293 --> 01:38:44,053
Speaker 2: But yeah, to that point, I just don't feel like, yeah,

1895
01:38:44,093 --> 01:38:46,533
Speaker 2: maybe just couldn't you know, I don't think I think

1896
01:38:46,533 --> 01:38:48,253
Speaker 2: it's been interesting that they have them in heaps and

1897
01:38:48,253 --> 01:38:50,893
Speaker 2: heaps and heaps of people saying this is a terrible decision.

1898
01:38:51,093 --> 01:38:52,853
Speaker 2: And I did think that David Cook the other day

1899
01:38:52,893 --> 01:38:55,813
Speaker 2: actually was kind of do you I say, refreshing, especially

1900
01:38:55,813 --> 01:38:57,293
Speaker 2: for someone from u zent and Rugby, and that he

1901
01:38:57,413 --> 01:39:01,333
Speaker 2: was just he was quite He's spoken simple language. I

1902
01:39:01,373 --> 01:39:03,893
Speaker 2: thought there was kind of coherence to his arguments. But yeah,

1903
01:39:04,173 --> 01:39:05,573
Speaker 2: I agree, it's a great shame.

1904
01:39:05,613 --> 01:39:08,573
Speaker 15: I mean, you know, wonder given Kirk was head of

1905
01:39:08,613 --> 01:39:13,933
Speaker 15: the players Association, does interesting player influence.

1906
01:39:14,493 --> 01:39:18,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point. Actually, Okay, well, yeah,

1907
01:39:19,453 --> 01:39:21,293
Speaker 2: I guess we'll watch the space what happens over the

1908
01:39:21,293 --> 01:39:23,773
Speaker 2: next few weeks. Who's next to take the reins? But

1909
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Speaker 2: thank you very much. So we'll make sure all of

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Speaker 2: Mike's tips for exploring County Donny gall are up on

1911
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Speaker 2: the news talks He'd be website. It is eleven.

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Speaker 1: Thirty, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News talks he'd.

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Speaker 8: Become Mell.

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Speaker 14: Me Baby.

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Speaker 2: This is talk to Me. It's a new song from Robin,

1917
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Speaker 2: the Swedish pop legend. He's delivering a bit of a classic, fun,

1918
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Speaker 2: punchy energy track. And she just announced her brand new album.

1919
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Speaker 2: So she and Harry Styles are both going to have

1920
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Speaker 2: new albums coming in March. So she I love Robin,

1921
01:40:18,293 --> 01:40:21,453
Speaker 2: huge Robin fans, so very excited about that. Right now,

1922
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Speaker 2: it is twenty seven minutes to twelve. Jason Pie's in

1923
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Speaker 2: the hot seat for a weekend sport this afternoon. What a

1924
01:40:25,693 --> 01:40:28,333
Speaker 2: quiet week Piney. You must be really struggling to find

1925
01:40:28,373 --> 01:40:30,893
Speaker 2: something to talk about this afternoon. Welcome back, Jack.

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Speaker 21: I'm scraping around looking for topics. You know, look at

1927
01:40:34,893 --> 01:40:37,813
Speaker 21: some incredible, isn't it. What a story, biggest sports story

1928
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Speaker 21: I can remember for a very long time, the parting

1929
01:40:40,973 --> 01:40:43,013
Speaker 21: of ways between you, Jill and Rugby and the all

1930
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Speaker 21: black stead coach.

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Speaker 2: So my two hot takes, just to add to the

1932
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Speaker 2: many tomes worth of commentary that has been published over

1933
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Speaker 2: the last couple of days, is number one. I think

1934
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Speaker 2: Scott Robinson made a huge mistake, like an outsized mistake,

1935
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Speaker 2: when he didn't name Artie Savier captain, not because I

1936
01:41:00,493 --> 01:41:03,253
Speaker 2: think Artie Savier was necessarily undermining the team or anything

1937
01:41:03,293 --> 01:41:05,213
Speaker 2: like that, Not because I don't think Scott Robinson's an

1938
01:41:05,213 --> 01:41:09,773
Speaker 2: amazing captain and lead and rugby player, but because Ardie

1939
01:41:09,813 --> 01:41:12,493
Speaker 2: Savier is so obviously the leader of that group, and

1940
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Speaker 2: I think to have gone with someone because you knew

1941
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Speaker 2: him already and because you had an established relationship was

1942
01:41:18,293 --> 01:41:20,213
Speaker 2: the wrong thing to be doing and taking over the

1943
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Speaker 2: national team. So that was my first take. My second

1944
01:41:22,533 --> 01:41:25,733
Speaker 2: one was I think it's interesting how little criticism there

1945
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Speaker 2: has been of the New Zealand rugby decision in the

1946
01:41:27,493 --> 01:41:31,293
Speaker 2: last few days, like telling, telling, there hasn't you know

1947
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Speaker 2: what I mean that you think about the Foster stuff

1948
01:41:34,373 --> 01:41:37,213
Speaker 2: previously and there was so much criticism about how they

1949
01:41:37,293 --> 01:41:40,853
Speaker 2: handled it, But there aren't heaps of people really except

1950
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Speaker 2: for Mike cowardly perhaps full throatedly coming out and saying, no,

1951
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Speaker 2: this is this is absolutely the wrong decision. They needed

1952
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Speaker 2: to stay the course, they needed to stick with Razor,

1953
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Speaker 2: and I think that in itself is telling.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, two very good points. I agree wholeheartedly with the

1955
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Speaker 21: first one that the captaincy of the All Blacks never

1956
01:41:58,533 --> 01:42:01,613
Speaker 21: seemed to sit well on the shoulders for Scott board anyway,

1957
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Speaker 21: it's almost like Scott Bauer felt like Artie Show the captain. Yeah,

1958
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Speaker 21: it's funny. And he's not what you'd call a natural leader,

1959
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Speaker 21: Scott Barrett. He's a terrific rugby player, you know, it

1960
01:42:11,893 --> 01:42:14,293
Speaker 21: has been for a while. So now look, who knows

1961
01:42:14,293 --> 01:42:16,653
Speaker 21: what the new coach will decide. But yeah, I feel

1962
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Speaker 21: like Scott Barrett, you know, will be at his best

1963
01:42:19,293 --> 01:42:22,973
Speaker 21: unencumbered by the leadership. So yeah, and the second point

1964
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Speaker 21: is absolutely valid. Yes, there's been the odd sort of

1965
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Speaker 21: muttering of Aye, he should have been given another two years,

1966
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Speaker 21: he should have been given the chance to, you know,

1967
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Speaker 21: to make changes, etc.

1968
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Speaker 5: But I don't know.

1969
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Speaker 21: I just think he underestimated the enormity of this job,

1970
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Speaker 21: and those who put him in it overestimated his ability

1971
01:42:41,813 --> 01:42:44,613
Speaker 21: to do it. I think that's what I've sort of

1972
01:42:45,013 --> 01:42:48,333
Speaker 21: crystallized this down too. And Scott Robinson hasn't become a

1973
01:42:48,333 --> 01:42:52,013
Speaker 21: bad rugby coach. He just wasn't able to coach this team.

1974
01:42:52,293 --> 01:42:54,973
Speaker 21: And he'll pop up somewhere else and no doubt be

1975
01:42:55,093 --> 01:42:58,213
Speaker 21: successful somewhere else. He's not the first coach to have

1976
01:42:58,253 --> 01:43:01,253
Speaker 21: been let go from somewhere and then out of renaissance

1977
01:43:01,413 --> 01:43:04,013
Speaker 21: somewhere else. It'll be interesting to see where that is

1978
01:43:04,133 --> 01:43:07,213
Speaker 21: obviously for our future. The big decision now is who

1979
01:43:07,253 --> 01:43:11,133
Speaker 21: takes that role as head coach of the All Blacks

1980
01:43:11,173 --> 01:43:12,893
Speaker 21: moving forward. I mean we're eighteen months out from a

1981
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Speaker 21: Rugby World Cup, Jack, It's not exactly a mountain of

1982
01:43:16,253 --> 01:43:17,293
Speaker 21: time to get things in order.

1983
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Speaker 2: No, no, it's not at all. So you'll be taking

1984
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Speaker 2: a close look at that this afternoon. Also a bit

1985
01:43:22,173 --> 01:43:22,733
Speaker 2: of tennis.

1986
01:43:23,053 --> 01:43:25,973
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's the end of the ASP Tennis Classic Men's

1987
01:43:25,973 --> 01:43:28,053
Speaker 21: final this afternoon. Then look ahead to the Aussie Open.

1988
01:43:28,253 --> 01:43:29,933
Speaker 21: I quite like the Aussie Open, Jack. I'm not a

1989
01:43:29,973 --> 01:43:32,293
Speaker 21: big tennis fan per se, but I kind of like

1990
01:43:32,293 --> 01:43:33,773
Speaker 21: having good old in the background.

1991
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Speaker 2: Exactly.

1992
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's there, and.

1993
01:43:39,133 --> 01:43:42,253
Speaker 21: The coverage is good, and sometimes you get drawn into

1994
01:43:42,253 --> 01:43:44,093
Speaker 21: a match and you think, oh, he or she looks

1995
01:43:44,173 --> 01:43:46,333
Speaker 21: quite good and then you end up barracking for someone

1996
01:43:46,373 --> 01:43:48,293
Speaker 21: you don't really know that well. So, yeah, the tennis

1997
01:43:48,373 --> 01:43:51,613
Speaker 21: is on. We got the real start of the New

1998
01:43:51,693 --> 01:43:54,693
Speaker 21: Zealand track and field season, the Pots Classic and Hastings

1999
01:43:55,133 --> 01:43:57,293
Speaker 21: and other bits and pieces too. But yeah, mainly rugby

2000
01:43:57,333 --> 01:44:00,133
Speaker 21: this afternoon, which I wasn't expecting a week ago. But

2001
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Speaker 21: here we are, Jack, here we are.

2002
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Speaker 2: Hey, good to hear your voice. Thanks Banny, you're so

2003
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Speaker 2: boored to This afternoon, Jason Pine behind the mic for

2004
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Speaker 2: a weekends sport right after the midday news. Before that,

2005
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Speaker 2: we're going to catch up with our music reviewer, who

2006
01:44:10,453 --> 01:44:13,133
Speaker 2: went to Ed Sharon's concert last night, the first of

2007
01:44:13,253 --> 01:44:16,453
Speaker 2: his world tour. Next up, our book reviewers in with

2008
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Speaker 2: her picks for the weekend. Right now, it's twenty three to.

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Speaker 1: Twelve Saturday Morning with Jack Tame Full Show podcast on

2010
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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks AB.

2011
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Speaker 2: Twit twelve And you still good be Catherine Rain's, our

2012
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Speaker 2: book reviewer, is here with us this morning. Good morning, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: morning Jack. Have you had a good summer.

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Speaker 11: It's been a lovely summer yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very good, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

2017
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just sort of starting to ease

2018
01:44:41,093 --> 01:44:45,413
Speaker 2: into the holiday now, which is, of course not the

2019
01:44:45,413 --> 01:44:47,533
Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to be, but there, that's such

2020
01:44:47,533 --> 01:44:51,213
Speaker 2: as life. You've got two great little recommendations for us

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01:44:51,213 --> 01:44:52,813
Speaker 2: this weekend, for anyone who's still got a bit of

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Speaker 2: reading time left this summer. So let's begin with the

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Speaker 2: Last Encore by Rebecca Heath.

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Speaker 11: So this is where a group of surviving members of

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01:45:02,533 --> 01:45:05,933
Speaker 11: a once popular band called the Centrics Band they decide

2026
01:45:05,973 --> 01:45:08,253
Speaker 11: to t I pulled together, ready to play one last

2027
01:45:08,253 --> 01:45:11,013
Speaker 11: concert with money, the daughter of the lead singer who

2028
01:45:11,333 --> 01:45:14,293
Speaker 11: had died eighteen years ago when an explosion killed him.

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Speaker 11: And they were really at their height of their fame

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Speaker 11: when that happened. And after that happened, the band fell

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01:45:18,733 --> 01:45:20,933
Speaker 11: apart and they all going the separate ways, and this

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Speaker 11: documentary maker has decided to bring them all to this

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01:45:23,693 --> 01:45:27,573
Speaker 11: remote island, hoping to film their own reunion. Not everybody's

2034
01:45:27,613 --> 01:45:30,213
Speaker 11: really that happy to be there. The remaining three band

2035
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Speaker 11: members don't really seem to get on it all. Their

2036
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Speaker 11: manager irritates everyone has Johnny's former partner, a woman called Ivy,

2037
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Speaker 11: and the mother of his daughter Mone. She just very

2038
01:45:42,533 --> 01:45:45,693
Speaker 11: odd relationships going on there. And there's same hungry people,

2039
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Speaker 11: and there's the owners of the resort, and then all

2040
01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:51,693
Speaker 11: of a sudden, the body is found and someone else

2041
01:45:51,773 --> 01:45:54,093
Speaker 11: is missing, and everybody starts to realize that there's a

2042
01:45:54,133 --> 01:45:57,013
Speaker 11: lot more going on here than their first thought. And

2043
01:45:57,053 --> 01:46:00,653
Speaker 11: the story unfolds with multiple points of view, and interesting enough,

2044
01:46:00,733 --> 01:46:03,653
Speaker 11: this guy called Ricky who runs the Cedric's band fan

2045
01:46:03,773 --> 01:46:06,773
Speaker 11: Brog and he's their number one fan, and he's different

2046
01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:09,453
Speaker 11: characters and there behind the scenes gossip and this interesting

2047
01:46:09,493 --> 01:46:11,893
Speaker 11: mix of characters, some who really likable and some who

2048
01:46:12,013 --> 01:46:16,733
Speaker 11: really aren't. And it's suspense fallen atmospheric, and these unreliable

2049
01:46:16,813 --> 01:46:20,813
Speaker 11: characters and hidden motives and this undercurrent of unease, mainly

2050
01:46:20,853 --> 01:46:22,693
Speaker 11: because you're said on this remote island and it has

2051
01:46:22,733 --> 01:46:25,413
Speaker 11: this isolation and paranoias that are associated with it that

2052
01:46:25,573 --> 01:46:28,933
Speaker 11: just keeps you guessing to the end and that tension

2053
01:46:29,053 --> 01:46:32,813
Speaker 11: really ramps up, and that undercurrent of things going on.

2054
01:46:32,933 --> 01:46:36,893
Speaker 11: And Rebecca Heath writes this really well executed, page turning

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01:46:36,933 --> 01:46:39,853
Speaker 11: novel with twists and terms that are really unexpected.

2056
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Speaker 2: Cool. Great. So that's the last Encore by Rebecca Heath.

2057
01:46:43,693 --> 01:46:46,093
Speaker 2: Next up, Anne Packer has just published a new novel,

2058
01:46:46,173 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 2: Some Bright Nowhere.

2059
01:46:48,533 --> 01:46:51,253
Speaker 11: So Elliott and Claire have been married four decades and

2060
01:46:51,293 --> 01:46:54,373
Speaker 11: they raised two children together and they're now retired. But

2061
01:46:54,493 --> 01:46:57,493
Speaker 11: Claire is dying of cancer and Elliott's been her caretaker

2062
01:46:57,533 --> 01:47:00,893
Speaker 11: for the past seven years. And right at the start

2063
01:47:00,933 --> 01:47:03,253
Speaker 11: of the book, Elliott and Clear say goodbye to the

2064
01:47:03,293 --> 01:47:06,853
Speaker 11: oncologist who's treated her breast cancer for nine years. Because

2065
01:47:06,973 --> 01:47:09,133
Speaker 11: the ends near him, there's nothing more that he can do,

2066
01:47:09,613 --> 01:47:11,293
Speaker 11: and so the book kind of takes us from that

2067
01:47:11,373 --> 01:47:14,813
Speaker 11: point in their lives until the end, and where we start.

2068
01:47:14,853 --> 01:47:17,453
Speaker 11: It's the dynamic that's difficult for both of them. The

2069
01:47:17,533 --> 01:47:19,813
Speaker 11: relationship hasn't got a lot of joy left. They feel

2070
01:47:19,853 --> 01:47:22,333
Speaker 11: like they're just managing the days and comfort and this

2071
01:47:22,493 --> 01:47:25,533
Speaker 11: looming future for Elliott, and the story is told from

2072
01:47:25,573 --> 01:47:29,093
Speaker 11: Elliott's perspective, and you see his isolation and his struggle

2073
01:47:29,133 --> 01:47:32,573
Speaker 11: to communicate and understand, and he thinks a lot about

2074
01:47:32,613 --> 01:47:34,373
Speaker 11: what's gone on in the past, and he's a very

2075
01:47:34,493 --> 01:47:38,173
Speaker 11: kind man, but he's forced to examine what he really

2076
01:47:38,253 --> 01:47:39,973
Speaker 11: means to Clear and what she means to him, and

2077
01:47:40,013 --> 01:47:42,173
Speaker 11: come to terms with what his life looks like when

2078
01:47:42,213 --> 01:47:45,773
Speaker 11: Clear is not there, and Clear's friends Holly and Michelle

2079
01:47:45,813 --> 01:47:47,973
Speaker 11: start to become the center of her world, and Elliott

2080
01:47:47,973 --> 01:47:50,773
Speaker 11: feels his isolation even more. It becomes really well for him,

2081
01:47:51,173 --> 01:47:54,173
Speaker 11: and it's very powerful book. It's complex, and this book

2082
01:47:54,173 --> 01:47:58,053
Speaker 11: about this strong marriage and how it heads on when

2083
01:47:58,293 --> 01:48:02,413
Speaker 11: life's really disrailed it. And it's almost a simple story,

2084
01:48:02,453 --> 01:48:05,173
Speaker 11: but it's complexity is forcing you to ask questions and

2085
01:48:05,293 --> 01:48:09,413
Speaker 11: confront life and ethics and morality, and nothing has easy answers,

2086
01:48:09,853 --> 01:48:12,893
Speaker 11: but it's beautifully written, and it's a very quiet, introspective

2087
01:48:13,133 --> 01:48:16,173
Speaker 11: family story where those questions and thoughts stay with you

2088
01:48:16,213 --> 01:48:18,893
Speaker 11: long after you've finished. And there was a really interesting

2089
01:48:18,933 --> 01:48:20,413
Speaker 11: read from quite a different perspective.

2090
01:48:20,613 --> 01:48:24,053
Speaker 2: Right, okay, that's some right nowhere by Anne Packer, and

2091
01:48:24,133 --> 01:48:27,373
Speaker 2: Catherine's first pick was the last encore by Rebecca Heath.

2092
01:48:27,533 --> 01:48:29,573
Speaker 2: Both of those will be up on the news talks.

2093
01:48:29,533 --> 01:48:32,213
Speaker 2: They'd be website sixteen to twelve.

2094
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Speaker 1: Giving you the insight scoop on all you need to

2095
01:48:35,093 --> 01:48:38,893
Speaker 1: know Saturday morning with Jack dam News Talks that'd be.

2096
01:48:41,293 --> 01:48:42,333
Speaker 8: Loved.

2097
01:48:44,933 --> 01:48:48,093
Speaker 16: We made these memmos for us.

2098
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Speaker 4: Where are.

2099
01:48:51,133 --> 01:48:53,813
Speaker 8: Hides from book times?

2100
01:48:53,853 --> 01:48:56,453
Speaker 9: Forever cross.

2101
01:48:57,093 --> 01:48:59,133
Speaker 5: So you can kill me?

2102
01:49:00,413 --> 01:49:14,493
Speaker 7: Says that is each year and in photograph.

2103
01:49:15,253 --> 01:49:18,653
Speaker 2: He opened his series of New Zealand shows and his

2104
01:49:18,693 --> 01:49:22,853
Speaker 2: world tour at mounts Mars Goo Media Stadium last night.

2105
01:49:22,933 --> 01:49:26,413
Speaker 2: Chris Schultz music reviewer, was there a man who gets

2106
01:49:26,453 --> 01:49:30,213
Speaker 2: to more big gigs than anyone. Good morning, Happy New

2107
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Speaker 2: Year to Jack. Thanks for having me, Yeah yeah, tell

2108
01:49:34,493 --> 01:49:37,053
Speaker 2: us about the show. It sounds sounds fantastic.

2109
01:49:38,173 --> 01:49:40,613
Speaker 22: It was it was a bit This is a big show.

2110
01:49:40,693 --> 01:49:44,453
Speaker 22: This is the biggest kind of stadium spectacle. I think

2111
01:49:44,573 --> 01:49:46,933
Speaker 22: he took it to levels I haven't seen before. And

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Speaker 22: he did that in a couple of ways. One was

2113
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Speaker 22: with the huge screen. I haven't seen a screen of

2114
01:49:54,413 --> 01:49:58,533
Speaker 22: this size set up in a stadium anywhere before.

2115
01:49:58,773 --> 01:49:59,413
Speaker 9: It's so big.

2116
01:49:59,453 --> 01:50:02,853
Speaker 22: I can't even really describe it to you, Like I

2117
01:50:02,893 --> 01:50:06,093
Speaker 22: took a few photos and it doesn't capture how big

2118
01:50:06,133 --> 01:50:10,293
Speaker 22: this thing is. It's approximately ten stories tall. And I

2119
01:50:10,773 --> 01:50:13,413
Speaker 22: was in the I was in the queue for a burger,

2120
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Speaker 22: was APM waiting for my burger, and I heard each

2121
01:50:16,653 --> 01:50:19,773
Speaker 22: Aran's voice come out of the loud speaker. He obviously

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Speaker 22: starts at eight. It's very early for a stadium show.

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Speaker 22: So I ran in there and there's his face on

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Speaker 22: this big screen ten stories tall. It's intimidating, and it's

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Speaker 22: kind of overwhelming because his face is just hovering up

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Speaker 22: there the whole time. You can see every bead of sweat,

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Speaker 22: every poor It's it's a little bit terrifying, actually, But

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Speaker 22: he's got that. He's got the other trick he's got

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Speaker 22: He's installed this bridge into a stage, this bridge that

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Speaker 22: comes out of the main stage and then grows out

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Speaker 22: over the crowd to another stage in the middle of

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Speaker 22: the arena. I've never seen this before. It must have

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Speaker 22: cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. So he walks out

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Speaker 22: over this thing and he performs in the middle of

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Speaker 22: the arenas, which is it's it's kind of cool. I

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Speaker 22: gott I was incredibly impressed when this thing just started

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Speaker 22: coming out of the stage.

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Speaker 3: But of course, you.

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Speaker 22: Know, look each here and he's so humble, he's so

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Speaker 22: down to worth. He has played probably to more New

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Speaker 22: Zealanders than any other artist ever. He's kind of up

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Speaker 22: there on his own, and it's sort of lonely at

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Speaker 22: the top. You know, there's no one threatening him at

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Speaker 22: this point, at a time when artists aren't really touring

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Speaker 22: stadiums and alti at all, he's just casually filling five

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Speaker 22: of them on this jaunt. And he's done that by

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Speaker 22: connecting with so many people. You know, he writes these

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Speaker 22: songs that are played during life's biggest moments. He writes

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Speaker 22: songs that are played at funerals and weddings and proposals,

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Speaker 22: and and that's how he's doing it. I think personally,

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Speaker 22: I like a little more edge to my stadium shows

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Speaker 22: a little more in the story, and this is very

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Speaker 22: much him and him alone. He's got a band for

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Speaker 22: like about five songs, and to me, that was the

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Speaker 22: best bit. He had a band up on stage. He

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Speaker 22: seemed really happy because the pressure was off him. It

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Speaker 22: wasn't just him and his guitar up there. There were

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Speaker 22: all these other people to connect to, to jam with,

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Speaker 22: to create that kind of alchemy that a band gives you.

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Speaker 22: But for the most part, it's just him. Which when

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Speaker 22: I think about that, when I think about forty thousand

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Speaker 22: people staring at me and my face up on a

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Speaker 22: ten story digital screen, that gives me a panic attack.

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Speaker 22: That's not everyone who can do that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So how polished did it feel? Given this is the

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Speaker 2: first show of many? You know, if he was a

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Speaker 2: bit further through the tour, I guess you know, he'd

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Speaker 2: be kind of into more of a rhythm with everything.

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Speaker 2: What was your sense?

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Speaker 22: He admitted he had nerves for the first time, and

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Speaker 22: I think he said over ten years. And it did

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Speaker 22: show a little bit. I did think the first sort

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Speaker 22: of forty five minutes, you know, the sun was still setting,

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Speaker 22: so it was quite bright, and so the stage wasn't

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Speaker 22: in full effect. He made everyone pull out their phones,

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Speaker 22: but that didn't kind of work because it was still

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Speaker 22: quite light. Yeah, so you could sort of see it

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Speaker 22: a little bit. And then he admitted too that the

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Speaker 22: bridge timings weren't quite working as he wanted them to.

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01:53:15,973 --> 01:53:17,613
Speaker 22: He wanted to be I think, playing one of the

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Speaker 22: songs up on the bridge, and it hadn't come out,

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Speaker 22: so he'd been stuck out on the podium. So there

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Speaker 22: were a few little moments like that. I think the

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Speaker 22: nerves actually showed more on how much time he spent

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Speaker 22: talking to the crowd. Almost every song was followed by

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Speaker 22: a story and anecdote something yeah, yeah, and it kind

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01:53:36,293 --> 01:53:38,173
Speaker 22: of killed the momentum. I would love to see him

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Speaker 22: just pack up that momentum a little bit and bring

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Speaker 22: people along with him a little more. And by the

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Speaker 22: end he did it. I think he realized. And I

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Speaker 22: think you will see some changes. If this was the

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Speaker 22: third show or fifth show or tenth show of the tour,

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Speaker 22: I think all of that will have been ironed out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right. It sounds like an epic kind of spectacle,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean that screen alone is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 22: The screen and the pyro. He had more pyro than

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Speaker 22: I have ever seen it. I saw Metallica and they

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Speaker 22: had homes of flames going up behind the stage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: At one point I thought someone need to call the

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Speaker 22: fire department. The stage looked like it was on fire.

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Speaker 22: And even each share enough towards he went bright red

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01:54:17,253 --> 01:54:21,853
Speaker 22: and he's like, that was probably too hot. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 22: a lot of pyro involved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you wouldn't want to be too close to it.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. All right, Well, I'm envious of those who

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Speaker 2: are heading along this evening or over the next few days.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Chris. Glad to hear your voice.

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Speaker 2: Glad that you enjoyed it last night, and hopefully this

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Speaker 2: is only one of many dozens of shows you'll be

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Speaker 2: attending this year. Seems to usually be the case. And

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Speaker 2: of course you can find more of Chris's stuff on

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Speaker 2: his sub stack. That's boiler room. I think there are

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Speaker 2: two shows in christ at the Apollo Projects Stadium, what

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Speaker 2: next Saturday and Sunday. He's got Awcorn tonight and then

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Speaker 2: Wellington on Wednesday at Sky Stadium. Each yearing that is well,

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Speaker 2: probably Chris as well. Actually knowing Chris right now, It's

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Speaker 2: seven minutes to twelve on Newstalk's.

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Speaker 3: He'd be.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with News

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Speaker 1: Talks have been.

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Speaker 2: Well, as Jason Bin described it as one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest stories, if not the biggest story to come out

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand rugby in years. He will be digging

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Speaker 2: into that this afternoon, considering what the path forward looks

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Speaker 2: like for the All Blacks after Rasor Robertson was axed

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Speaker 2: as All Blacks coach. That'll be kicking things off on

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport this afternoon. He'll keep a close eye on

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Speaker 2: the tennis as that continues as well. Hopefully the weather

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Speaker 2: holds out in Auckland, not only for the tennis but

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Speaker 2: for Ed's Sharon this evening. Of course, thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for all of your text and emails throughout the morning.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice to be back and to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be back with your next Saturday morning

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Speaker 2: amazing producer Libby for setting up the whole show and

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Speaker 2: doing the tough stuff for us. This morning, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: leave you with Ed Shearon, counting down to his second

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Speaker 2: show this evening, the second of five in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: which is just such a good way to kick off

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. This is Sapphire say next.

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Speaker 8: Wait, Car and Trach, look at you to had be there,

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01:56:26,453 --> 01:56:31,613
Speaker 8: hunger out your buckets and then the computerity.

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Speaker 2: Out, the new levels are there.

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Speaker 8: To know your body? Why you put your on me?

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Speaker 16: Don't you mind your body?

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Speaker 8: I can do this wrong.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's good morning.

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Speaker 12: That we won.

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Speaker 19: Steep Buddy, sleepy count money, sleep sleep money, say the

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Speaker 19: stop John.

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