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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story. Ory,

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy Ellen Drive with one

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Speaker 2: That'd be good.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon Friday. It is six after four, coming up on

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Speaker 3: the pro on the program tonight, Wellington, the Meurill Race.

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Speaker 3: Ray Chung is his campaign over tonight, claims anti Semitism

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Speaker 3: on the rise across the country. The sports Huddle with

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Speaker 3: Caleb Park out for that second all Blacks test the

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Speaker 3: IKEA boss with five hundred jobs to fill and applications.

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Speaker 3: They had fifteen thousand applicants. That number now a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Will tell you how many more our Asia Business correspondent

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Speaker 3: and we'll go to the UK with Gavin.

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Speaker 2: Gray Brian Bridge.

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Speaker 3: So Wellington's Mall Race was supposed to get boring from

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Speaker 3: Tory Faro came in, of course, like a wrecking ball.

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Speaker 3: It was sallacious, it was juicy, it was bizarre. It

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Speaker 3: This was a movie script worthy of production. Across the

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Speaker 3: missed council meetings flooded the newspapers. Wellington's streets were flooding, literally,

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Speaker 3: behalf of all Wellingtonians. The rates rises, the airport's sales,

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Speaker 3: The plot basically ends well Wellington, You're getting a sequel

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Speaker 3: within the original. Meryl candidate Ray Chung sent his colleagues

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Speaker 3: Ray sent this to three fellow counselors on their personal

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Speaker 3: So then you start to wonder, is one of Ray's

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Speaker 3: All I really know is that Wellington, you need some

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Speaker 3: to text it just gone ten after four. The Victoria

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Speaker 3: their new campaign today, No work, Shiite pay, Why Stay

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Speaker 3: the Engagement Vice President at VIEWSER. Hi Aiden, Hello, So

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Speaker 3: why do you think these students are leaving well?

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Speaker 4: In our opinion, I think it's just the rational decision

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Speaker 3: What's the difference in graduate pay starting rates between the countries.

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Speaker 4: I don't have that off the cuff, but looking on

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Speaker 3: You want private businesses to hire graduates, but you mean

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Speaker 4: it's just a clear something that other places will provide

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Speaker 3: A lot of industry in Australia that keeps their unemployment

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Speaker 4: Look, we're not opposed to any graduate opportunity for any

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Speaker 3: You're saying, actually, you want an economy that's strong enough

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Speaker 4: Exactly couldn't have said it better ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's the harm in that? So who have you

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Speaker 3: Fourteen minutes after four year on News Talks EBB and

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Speaker 3: well few changes, just a couple to the French team

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Speaker 3: News Talks VB. It is seventeen minutes after four Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Has anyone done a survey? This is on jobs and

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Speaker 3: the Kiwi's fleeing for Australia? Has anyone done a survey

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Speaker 3: of Kiwis who have left New Zealand to ask what

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Speaker 3: It might not just be the money and the lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you on the show. So what's happening

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Speaker 6: Yeah, men's semi finals tonight are fascinating. Yanixon and Novak Djokovic.

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Speaker 3: Dan Madison's a US correspondent, Dan, and welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Hey R, good to have you here. New Israeli intelligence

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Dan, appreciate you coming on the show, right have

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Speaker 2: Next, the politics with centric credit. Check your customers and

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Speaker 13: to Ray Chung.

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Speaker 3: That sounds way better. Oh my goodness, Well, you just

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Speaker 3: certainly sound as excited as Richard about pendulous breasts.

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Speaker 13: No, no, no, that's not why I'm excited, and that's

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Speaker 13: not why I'm just I've read the story, and I've

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Speaker 13: read about the sponsors, and I say, oh gosh, you

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Speaker 13: know what earth is going on?

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Speaker 3: A bit of a train wreck. Hey, looks like it'll

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Speaker 3: be a Labor the Party Mary in the Tammaki Makoto

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Speaker 3: by election.

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Speaker 13: Indeed it does. The Greens said this morning that they

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Speaker 13: won't be contesting the by election in the Marty seat

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Speaker 13: of Tamake Makoto. Party leader Madama Davidson said in the

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Speaker 13: statement that our decision not to run a candidate in

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Speaker 13: Tamaki Makoto reflects a combination of factors, most pertinently the

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Speaker 13: responsible use of resources at this time. Essentially, she's saying, listen,

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Speaker 13: we want to save our money for the election next year.

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Speaker 13: And if the Greens were to run, listen, Madam Davidson

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Speaker 13: has run there in the past, but she hasn't really

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Speaker 13: come close enough to winning or what she would do

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Speaker 13: essentially is she'd be splitting the vote a little bit.

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Speaker 13: Now we don't know obviously, you know, if which horse

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Speaker 13: the Greens are backing at the stage, whether it is

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Speaker 13: Tea Party Mary or whether it is Labor, but them

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Speaker 13: being in the mix would be you know, this is

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Speaker 13: essentially them saying we're probably not going to rin this race.

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Speaker 13: We got confirmation last night that Tea Party Marty is

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Speaker 13: selected new herb broadcaster or any Carpet Carpany as it's candidates,

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Speaker 13: and she's obviously a well known broadcaster. I believe you

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Speaker 13: worked with her in the past. Ryan, Still no word

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Speaker 13: from Labor yes, as to who they're going to select.

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Speaker 13: We think that it's probably going to be Penni Hennada,

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Speaker 13: who is He's won the seat before, He's well known

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Speaker 13: in the region. I think he would be in with

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Speaker 13: a good shot. But we do know that Act an't

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Speaker 13: running anyone. We know that National aren't running anybody either.

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Speaker 13: We don't know about New Zealand First yet, but I

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Speaker 13: would say that they would be unlikely. So it's really

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Speaker 13: shaping up to be a bit of a drag race

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Speaker 13: between Tea Party, Marty and Labor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, or any Carpenters is an excellent I

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Speaker 3: think going to be an excellent candidate for them, and

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Speaker 3: I think could be a bit of a game changer

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Speaker 3: just in terms of the decorum of the party. She

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Speaker 3: comes at thinks, you know what I'm saying. She comes

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Speaker 3: to I at life from a very different angle. I think,

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Speaker 3: so be interesting to see how that all plays out. Now, Jason,

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Speaker 3: what else have you got for us this afternoon?

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Speaker 13: Indeed, Well, I was quite interested did because Grant Robertson

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Speaker 13: is in the House. He addressed a select committee this

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Speaker 13: morning and opened it this way.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, everybody. I'm Grant Robertson, the Vice Chancellor of

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Speaker 14: the University of Ottager and recovering politicians.

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Speaker 13: Recovering politician of course, that is the former Finance Minister,

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Speaker 13: Grant Robertson. He was there to submit on the Education

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Speaker 13: and Training Amendments Bill. So as part as the Act

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Speaker 13: National Coalition Agreement, they agreed to amend the Educational Training

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Speaker 13: Act to enshrine education attainment as the paramount objective for

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Speaker 13: the state schools. So at the moment the Act or

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Speaker 13: the Act outlines that board's primary objective in governing a

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Speaker 13: school was to ensure that every student, yes, can attain

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Speaker 13: their highest possible standard in education. But they're also up

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Speaker 13: there is physical and emotional safety and that includes and

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Speaker 13: caters for students with different needs, as well as giving

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Speaker 13: effect to the Treaty of White Thongy. So the amendment

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Speaker 13: that the Act of put through puts educational achievement right

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Speaker 13: at the top. So as expected, there's been quite a

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Speaker 13: bit of pushback on this one because it puts giving

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Speaker 13: a fact to the treaty underneath the Educational Educational Achievement.

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Speaker 13: Grant Robinson was not a fan of this amendment when

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Speaker 13: he turned up to Select Committee this morning.

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Speaker 14: I do want to say at the outset that we

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Speaker 14: don't believe that there is a problem requiring legislative change

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Speaker 14: with respect to issues of academic freedom or freedom of

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Speaker 14: expression in universities. I know myself as a vice chancellor

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Speaker 14: of a university and my fellow vice chancellors all believe

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Speaker 14: that the principle of academic freedom and freedom of expression

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Speaker 14: is central to our jobs and our work in universities.

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Speaker 14: The core principles that underpin what we do in a

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Speaker 14: university is embedded in the Education Act already.

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Speaker 13: So essentially he's saying it's already there, we don't need

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Speaker 13: this amendment.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, all right, thanks so much for that. Jason. Jason

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Speaker 3: Wall's News Talk CB Political editor in Parliament. It is

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Speaker 3: twelve minutes away.

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Speaker 2: From six Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: This is interesting from Mary, We had a video center

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Speaker 3: to us of Winston Peter's over in Kuala Limpa. He's

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Speaker 3: at an East Asia summit with fellow ministers, including Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 3: who's the Secretary of State over in the US and

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Speaker 3: Winston is minding his own beeswax, sitting at his desk,

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Speaker 3: doesn't realize Marco Rubios entered the room. Winston's just typing

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Speaker 3: away on his computer, faffing about, and everyone is trying

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Speaker 3: to sort of get a handshake or get a touch

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Speaker 3: of Marco Rubio as he walks into the room. Winston's

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Speaker 3: just not even paying attention. Marco goes to sit down

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Speaker 3: next to him, looks up, sees Winston, gets out of

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Speaker 3: his seat, goes over, shakes his hand, has a chat,

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously very pleased to see each other, the

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Speaker 3: two of them. Of course, Winston was over there, not recently.

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Speaker 3: So I was just saying, that's the trick. You know,

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Speaker 3: You're going to make them come to you. And Mary says, exactly,

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Speaker 3: don't move around at parties. This is Mary's advice if

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Speaker 3: you go to a party, don't move around at parties.

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Speaker 3: Just let the people come to you. Always being my

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Speaker 3: way of operating. Always sitting an empty table works every

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Speaker 3: time you get interesting people who come and sit to you,

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Speaker 3: sit next to you and become your friends. So there

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Speaker 3: you go for going out this weekend. You've got Mary's

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Speaker 3: advice to follow eleven away from five news talks, they'd

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Speaker 3: be raychoing after five and we will have an update

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Speaker 3: on the flooding. Things are getting quite bad in Nelson,

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Speaker 3: Tasman also Auckland. After five o'clock news talks, it'd be putting.

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Speaker 1: The time questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: It looks like Doc is going to do a u

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Speaker 2: turnover those lizards.

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Speaker 15: They initially told mccray's mine in central Otago no, they

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Speaker 15: couldn't expand ten thousand lizards might die. But then after

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Speaker 15: media attention yesterday, they've taken another look at the application

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Speaker 15: some of Paul Tucker is the Conservation Minister and with

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Speaker 15: us is it going to be a yes.

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Speaker 16: Well, that's a matter that Doc and Oceana we're doing

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Speaker 16: at a very productive meeting. I expect that they're going

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Speaker 16: to progress that application very swiftly.

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Speaker 3: Did you tell Doc to have another look at it.

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Speaker 16: I've found out about this matter, and I've said to

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Speaker 16: Doc what has happened here and fished up. There was

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Speaker 16: a miscommunication. They weren't clear about information requirements and they

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Speaker 16: declined it too quickly.

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Speaker 1: Hither duplessy Ellen the Mike costing breakfast Fack tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: six am with the Landrover Discovery on News.

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Speaker 3: Talks dev It has just gone seven minutes away from

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. It's no wonder Reform is doing so well

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Speaker 3: over in the UK. Can you blame people for voting

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Speaker 3: for them? I mean they are the most popular political

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Speaker 3: party in the country right now. I think they were

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Speaker 3: polling at thirty four percent. This is going off the

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Speaker 3: top of my head. Labor was polling at about twenty

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Speaker 3: four percent something like that, and the Conservatives of a

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Speaker 3: down on fifteen, worst result they ever had anyway, this

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Speaker 3: is why you got Starmer going out there signing deals

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Speaker 3: with the French because Macron's over in London at the moment,

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Speaker 3: the one in one out deal. This is on boat people.

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Speaker 3: So here are the numbers. One hundred and seventy thousand

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Speaker 3: people have arrived in the UK on small boats since

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. One hundred and seventy thousand. They reckon that

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Speaker 3: this year. Numbers this year have reached record levels, nearly

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Speaker 3: twenty thousand arriving in the first six months. So forty

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Speaker 3: thousand people on small crossing the Channel into the UK

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Speaker 3: in one year. I mean, you where did these people

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Speaker 3: go and this is why people are voting for reforms.

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Speaker 3: So what a starmer do comes out and says, Oh,

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Speaker 3: don't worry, I'm doing a one in one out deal

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Speaker 3: with Markromp, a one in one out deal. So this

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Speaker 3: is what they've agreed. So the UK will begin returning

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Speaker 3: migrants arriving in the small boats to France within weeks,

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Speaker 3: and in return, France will give the equivalent number of

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Speaker 3: migrants who've passed some security checks. So the I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: I guess at least you get some that have got

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Speaker 3: that have been checked or had a security clearance. But

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Speaker 3: it's not solving the actual underlying problem, isn't it. So

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Speaker 3: to be standing there saying I've signed a one in

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Speaker 3: one out, he'll be laughed out of number ten. That

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Speaker 3: man just gone six minutes away from five o'clock bridge. Now,

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Speaker 3: lots of your texts. I've got a quick one here

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Speaker 3: from Ian, A sorry stut that I wanted to read

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Speaker 3: to you. I didn't read it earlier. It's about people

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Speaker 3: going to wo Australia keeps going to Australia.

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Speaker 1: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: I've got two sons in their early thirties with four

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Speaker 3: university degrees, between them, both working in highly skilled positions

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Speaker 3: and highly paid. Recently had a function with several of

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Speaker 3: their chums, all of whom are planning to leave New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: mainly to Australia. When I pushed them for the reason,

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Speaker 3: one had the courage to raise the issue of co

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Speaker 3: governance as one of the problems. It's not just about

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Speaker 3: the economy. There are other issues that young people have

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Speaker 3: on their minds. The thing is you would get those

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Speaker 3: issues everywhere. Honestly, you will get those issues everywhere and

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Speaker 3: you will have look at the UK with immigration. You know,

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Speaker 3: every country has its problems. I think the overwhelming impetus

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Speaker 3: for why people migrate is economic. That is the overwhelming

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Speaker 3: reason why you see big spikes either way, is because

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Speaker 3: people are going to make better livings, going to make

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Speaker 3: their lives better, going to earn more. That's just my opinion. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: It just gone four minutes away from very quickly wanted

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Speaker 3: to get this out to you. This is about restaurants

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Speaker 3: and a sort of a trend that they're seeing emerge.

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Speaker 3: A restaurant reservation service open Table, has reported an eight

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Speaker 3: percent increase in solo dining reservations. People going out and

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Speaker 3: eating on their own, and this is for twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: They expect the trend will continue, and they interviewed this

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Speaker 3: man who said it was just nice. You know, his

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Speaker 3: family's not really into fine dining, kids aren't really into

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Speaker 3: fine dining, but he really loves it, so he goes

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Speaker 3: out on his own. All power to you. I just

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Speaker 3: think it's a bit weird. I am a go to

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Speaker 3: the movies on my own. I've done that for years,

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Speaker 3: have absolutely no problem doing it because if I want

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Speaker 3: to see a movie and no one else wants to

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Speaker 3: see the movie, then I'll go and see the movie.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like you said and talk to one

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Speaker 3: another anyway. But with food, for me at a restaurant,

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Speaker 3: it's about sitting down and talking to the people around

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Speaker 3: you and having a drink and enjoying that whole experience together.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. Mary clearly would love doing this,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't she Mary who texted in earlier because she likes

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Speaker 3: to sit at her own table so people come to her.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the strategy. Maybe you're sitting on your own

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Speaker 3: because you do want friends, you're just playing hard to get,

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Speaker 3: like our Winston coming up to five o'clock on news talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd b we'll get an update on the flooding of

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Speaker 3: Nelson Tasman next and Ray Schung the Meryl hopeful for

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Speaker 3: Wellington for now, Oh I get.

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Speaker 1: Mine questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust

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Speaker 1: for the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather do for

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Speaker 1: see Ellen Dry If we's one New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good evening at a seven after five We'll

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Speaker 3: get to the Nelson Tasman civil defense controllers shortly. First,

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Speaker 3: Wellington Councilor Raychung's meoral campaigners in tatters this afternoon. One

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Speaker 3: of his key backers this is Mark de Naichick. He's

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Speaker 3: formally withdrawn his public support after today's email scandal. If

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Speaker 3: you're just catching up, it was revealed this morning Counselor

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Speaker 3: Chung spread gossip about Tory Farno. This was in an

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Speaker 3: email to other Wellington councilors in twenty twenty three. In it,

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Speaker 3: he claimed Tory had quote drug fueled tempestuous sex and

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Speaker 3: made references to her having pendulous soft breasts. This was

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Speaker 3: reported to him, apparently by a friend and neighbor. She

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Speaker 3: categorically denies this, and rage Chang is with me.

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Speaker 10: Now, Hi, Ray, Hi Ryan, how are you going?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good, thanks? How are you going?

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Speaker 10: Oh it's been a very hard couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah as it.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, certainly not over yet.

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Speaker 3: Think you'll pull out of the race.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, I no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: You lost your big donor, right.

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Speaker 17: I haven't actually spoken to him yet, but that's what

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Speaker 17: I've that's what I've been told by by who actually

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Speaker 17: told me, uh Ethan Mania from the Herald?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah right.

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Speaker 3: What's that worth to you?

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Speaker 10: Oh? A lot? But but most of all, it's.

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Speaker 3: Like hundreds of the money, hundreds of thousands or teens

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Speaker 3: of thousands.

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Speaker 17: Well, well, it's not the it's not the money, it's

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Speaker 17: the fact that he no, he may lose faith in me,

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Speaker 17: so so I need to Yeah, so that that's more important.

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Speaker 3: And he hasn't even he hasn't even spoken to you

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Speaker 3: directly yet.

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Speaker 17: No, no, he hasn't yet. So yeah, no, I I've

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Speaker 17: been on I've been on the phone since four o'clock

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Speaker 17: this morning, so I even a chance to talk to

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Speaker 17: and Andnthan just told me so I need to talk

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Speaker 17: to him.

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Speaker 3: So Ray, can you just tell me in your own words.

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Speaker 3: You wrap for a walk and they tells you your story.

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Speaker 3: What's the story they tell you?

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Speaker 10: It told me a story about.

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Speaker 17: About oh, his son was down at the pub, went

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Speaker 17: down to the pub as they saw young young kids do,

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Speaker 17: and and these two women came up to them and

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Speaker 17: and one of them grabbed, grabbing one's a bum and said,

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Speaker 17: you know, you know, propossessioned him. And and so then

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Speaker 17: you know, one thing led to another, and so went

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Speaker 17: through what happened and so yeah, so told me about

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Speaker 17: then I was quite yeah, well, I don't know what

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Speaker 17: I thought, whether flebbergasted or as sounded or something, and

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Speaker 17: so so I didn't know what to actually do with

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Speaker 17: this information, because so.

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Speaker 3: This is, so, did they use the words tempestuous sex?

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Speaker 3: Or is that? Was that your words?

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Speaker 10: I think they used that those words. I didn't.

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Speaker 17: I didn't have anything, you know, I didn't add anything.

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Speaker 17: So I just took down. I just noted what they actually.

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Speaker 3: Right, So the neighbors said pendulous soft breasts as well? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well yeah, okay.

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Speaker 17: Or the information what happened was it gave me the

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Speaker 17: end you told me about it. Then I came back

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Speaker 17: and I thought, well, what do I do with that

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Speaker 17: I was walking with someone else and we're walking dogs,

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Speaker 17: and so, you know, we both listened to this, and

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Speaker 17: so I thought, well, what do I do with this?

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Speaker 3: And what do you mean, what you do we do

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Speaker 3: with it?

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Speaker 10: You me all this information, well you.

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Speaker 3: Might have a chuckle? Do you email your colleagues?

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Speaker 10: Well, I didn't know. What I found was.

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Speaker 17: Remember this is six weeks into council, six weeks and

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Speaker 17: being there, and the council operates very, very differently to

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Speaker 17: any organization. So I wanted some advice from someone to

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Speaker 17: ha been there a bit longer, and so do it?

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Speaker 17: I mean, this is you know, it is you know,

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Speaker 17: an issue, and it's it affects the reputation of the city.

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Speaker 10: So you know how many people actually know about this?

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Speaker 10: What should actually happen?

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Speaker 3: So is that what you asked? You asked in the email,

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Speaker 3: you said, I want some advice on what I should

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Speaker 3: do with this.

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Speaker 10: No, I told them, no, you didn't remember that.

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Speaker 3: You didn't. You just told them a dirty story you

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Speaker 3: heard from a man in the street, like it was

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Speaker 3: a bit of a laugh.

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Speaker 17: I mean, come on, well, it wasn't a man in

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Speaker 17: the street. It was someone who was known for many

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Speaker 17: a long time.

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Speaker 3: And so so you believe this is true, you believe

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Speaker 3: she had a drug fueled orgy.

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Speaker 17: I don't see why he should actually tell me these

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Speaker 17: things without being some substance behind it, because he wasn't

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Speaker 17: to know that I was actually going to walk past

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Speaker 17: this house, and so it wasn't as like he had

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Speaker 17: prepared a story.

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Speaker 3: I know. But he also wasn't their ray.

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Speaker 10: He was.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't at the orgy either, you know, So it's

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Speaker 3: third hand ORGI information at this point.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so yes.

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Speaker 3: So do you think it was smart to put it

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Speaker 3: in the email?

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Speaker 17: Well, I wanted to ask I just I didn't want

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Speaker 17: to add anything to it, so I just put in

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Speaker 17: what he actually told me. And so that's what I wanted.

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Speaker 10: To ask him.

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Speaker 17: And I think that it was a private email that

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Speaker 17: I sent her three of my colleagues who I've known

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Speaker 17: for a lot longer than being in counsel, to you know,

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Speaker 17: and get their opinion on.

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Speaker 3: It, and to who's that wasn't their counsel email or

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Speaker 3: personal email, personal email, personal emails. How do you think

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Speaker 3: Torri Farno got her hands on it, because that's how

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Speaker 3: it's wound up in the media today, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 17: One one of them, one of those three gave it

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Speaker 17: to her, Which one I don't know for sure, but

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Speaker 17: you know I can guess.

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Speaker 3: What's your guess?

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't want to.

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Speaker 17: I don't want to say that if I'm just guessing

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Speaker 17: because I don't have I don't have any.

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Speaker 3: Well that's sort but can you see that's sort of

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Speaker 3: what you did with toy.

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Speaker 10: Hmm what you mean in the email?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't know, but you guessed.

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Speaker 17: Well, I guess, and that's why I passed it on

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Speaker 17: to them to see what they thought. I don't think

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Speaker 17: any of us, actually you Tori, because you know, we

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Speaker 17: were all new to her, and so I think that

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Speaker 17: it was very difficult for us to even have any opinion.

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Speaker 10: And so right, yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: You ever had any drugs or done on the Orgi's.

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Speaker 10: Ray never, sadly.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to have?

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Speaker 17: Well, the opportunity has never been there, so I've never

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Speaker 17: been interested in taking drugs, so obviously haven't taken it

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Speaker 17: of those.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Ray, Well, good luck with your campaign. Yep,

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Speaker 3: thank you, that's raid showing Wellington. Meryl Hopeful Bridge Rich

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Speaker 3: thirteen on News Talk said, b Wow, what do you say?

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Speaker 3: What do you say, Ryan, what on earth is Wellington

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Speaker 3: done to deserve this? That is a good question because

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Speaker 3: you know we were on such a it sort of

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Speaker 3: cleaned up its act, didn't it. The Wellington merl situation

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Speaker 3: after Tory Farno took a bit of a dive. You know,

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Speaker 3: we had the drinking problem and then we got the

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Speaker 3: pipes bursting, and you know Wellington needed someone strong to

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Speaker 3: come in and take charge. This was the last thing

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Speaker 3: I saw coming, to be honest with you, from Wellington's

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Speaker 3: mural campaign. And yet here we are right the text

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Speaker 3: machine going but nuts at the moment, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 3: we need to get to Nelson Tasman. The Civil Defense

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Speaker 3: Controller is on standby for us. We're going to get

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Speaker 3: to them after the break because one hundred homes have

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Speaker 3: been evacuated. The rain is still falling. It is expected

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Speaker 3: to keep falling through the night. In Auckland. It is

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Speaker 3: going to start getting worse about now actually, and going

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Speaker 3: through till about eight pm will be the heaviest fall.

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Speaker 3: So we'll get you across the weather next here on

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Speaker 3: news Talk's head Beat. News Talk's head Beat is seventeen

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Speaker 3: minutes half to five. We are going to get to

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Speaker 3: Alec levertis this is the Nelson Tasman Civil Defense Controller

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Speaker 3: as soon as we can. We're just having some problems

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Speaker 3: connecting to him at the moment, but there is significant rainfall.

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Speaker 3: About one hundred homes have been evacuated so far. Will

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Speaker 3: keep you across that. Jewish leaders here in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: are calling for an anti Semitism strategy to match the

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Speaker 3: one Australia's just announced. Australian Prime Minister yesterday Elbow strongly

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Speaker 3: condemning anti Semitism attacks.

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Speaker 18: The idea that somehow the cause of justice four Palestinians

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Speaker 18: is advanced by behavior like that is not only delusional,

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Speaker 18: it is destructive and it is not consistent with how

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Speaker 18: you are able to put forward your views respectfully in

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Speaker 18: a democracy.

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Speaker 3: We will come to Deborah Hartshire of the Holocaust Center

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand on this in just a moment, but

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Speaker 3: first at eighteen minutes after five, we're going to Nelson Tasman.

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Speaker 3: These Civil Defense Controller Alec Levertic is joining us now. Elec.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Hello dere What can you tell us about

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Speaker 3: these evacuations? Are they just precautionary at the stage?

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Speaker 10: Well, the.

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Speaker 19: Mobile alerts that we put out earlier were precautionary, and

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Speaker 19: we did ask people that had been previously flooded to

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Speaker 19: make their way to high ground. That was at about

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Speaker 19: two o'clock. But things in the last forty minutes have

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Speaker 19: really taken a turn for the worst. And in the

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Speaker 19: last forty minutes we have experienced a number of things.

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Speaker 19: We've lost water to Kai Terri Terry, We've lost power

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Speaker 19: to Motowaka, Golden Bay, Collingwood ninety Moti, Kai Terri Terry.

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Speaker 19: We've got people that are stranded, multiple roads that are closed,

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Speaker 19: state highways. It's been forty minutes from absolute health, to

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Speaker 19: be totally honest. But we've got everything in hand and

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Speaker 19: we have crews out everywhere. But the a MA that

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Speaker 19: we put out earlier was in advance of this, and

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Speaker 19: the rain is just lashing this area something abseutely terrible.

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Speaker 3: ELEC. How many people at the stage are stranded that

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Speaker 3: you know of.

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Speaker 19: Probably about three, but we are in contact with them.

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Speaker 19: We Unfortunately, it's getting late, it's getting dark, and if

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Speaker 19: the helicopters can't get them out and they are safe

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Speaker 19: where they are, they'll just have to spend the night

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Speaker 19: and if not, we'll need to make alternative plans, but

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Speaker 19: we've got teams are working on that.

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Speaker 3: Are they safe where they are or are their lives

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Speaker 3: at risk presently at.

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Speaker 19: This moment in time, I understand that they are okay.

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Speaker 3: How many evacuations are you aware of? How many homes

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Speaker 3: have been evacuated?

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Speaker 19: So I don't know that exact number, but it would

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Speaker 19: be substantial in terms of the area that was flooded previously,

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Speaker 19: in multiple valleys across the whole of the Tasman district.

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Speaker 3: This is much worse than the last flooding you had.

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Speaker 19: I think it's coupled. It's a different rainfall events, so

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Speaker 19: it's it's higher intensity, it's a shorter duration, and it's

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Speaker 19: hitting ground that's already been smashed and wet and sodden,

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Speaker 19: and that just doesn't help.

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Speaker 2: So it's.

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Speaker 19: Pain on pain.

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Speaker 3: Really all right, Alic, we will let you get back

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Speaker 3: to your job, Alec levertis with us just confirming there

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Speaker 3: is sounds like a very serious situation Nelson, Tasman. They've

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Speaker 3: got a number of people three people at least, who

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Speaker 3: are currently stranded or trapped and emergency services working to

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Speaker 3: rescue them. Widespread power outages, water lost to Kait Teddy

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Speaker 3: Teddy power outers across most of the region will bring

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Speaker 3: up to date. Sorry I should say, keep you up

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Speaker 3: to date with that story and return to Deborah Hert

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Speaker 3: right after.

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Speaker 1: This informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: Hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected. News talks be good evening five to four.

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Speaker 3: You're on news talk, said b Ryan. This is from Ron.

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Speaker 3: We're in Kait Teddy Teddy, no power, no water, but

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Speaker 3: still above water, which is good to hear. Ron, stay

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Speaker 3: safe right now, anti Semitism, we've had the Australians come

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Speaker 3: out with a strategy. There are calls for one. Here.

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Speaker 3: Debrah Heart is the chair of the Holocaust Center of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand and is on the line. Hi Debrah, Hi Ryan,

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Speaker 3: how are you good? Thank you? What What would strategy

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Speaker 3: actually do? Is it really going to change anything?

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Speaker 20: Well, it will if it is a clear, accountable package

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Speaker 20: with evidence driven strategies and and has inclusive engagement and

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Speaker 20: the types of thing that the Australian Anti Semitism envoy

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Speaker 20: are very sensible and could be adopted. Here.

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Speaker 3: You say in your statement that anti semitism in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand has moved from being a fringe issue to a

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Speaker 3: mainstream one. What does that mean?

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Speaker 20: It means that Jewish people in New Zealand, many of

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Speaker 20: them are really scared. You hear Jewish people talking about

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Speaker 20: what's their plan be if it all turns to custard

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Speaker 20: here or who might hide them? They're seriously having those conversations.

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Speaker 20: And I can give you some examples of the kinds

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Speaker 20: of things.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about. Who might hide them? Yes, in case

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Speaker 3: someone comes after them. Yes.

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Speaker 20: We have a family of a preschooler, a three year old.

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Speaker 20: He was His preschool teacher demanded of him to know

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Speaker 20: if he was Israeli and then she man handled him

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Speaker 20: three six at times. That family was so scared that

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Speaker 20: they moved feast. We have Jewish students at universities who

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Speaker 20: have left their studies because campuses are so awful for

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Speaker 20: them that they just don't feel they can be there anymore.

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Speaker 20: The Holocaust Center of New Zealand regularly receives hate mail.

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Speaker 20: We regularly get told by public institutions that they can't

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Speaker 20: host us because they have security concerns that it will

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Speaker 20: be unsafe for their staff and their institution, and they

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Speaker 20: don't want to pay for the security that would be required.

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Speaker 20: We have had assaults, assaults of children, assaults of adults.

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Speaker 3: Debrah, I'm getting loads of texts. You can imagine. The

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Speaker 3: gist of it is. Many people speaking out against the

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Speaker 3: actions of the IDEF and Palestine are being labeled antisemitic.

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Speaker 3: They are using this as a shield. Is saying stop

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Speaker 3: killing Palestinians antisemitic.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 20: It's not anti submittic to criticize Israel, but it is

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Speaker 20: antisemitic to hold Jews in New Zealand accountable for the

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Speaker 20: Israeli government and what's happening in Gaza.

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Speaker 5: You can have whatever views you.

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Speaker 20: Like about about Israel and about the Palestinian course. Goodness

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Speaker 20: Jewish people do, but there are some lines that you

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Speaker 20: that you can't cross, and you shouldn't be making Jewish

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Speaker 20: people here responsible for what is happening. What's happening in

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Speaker 20: Gaza and what we're seeing at the moment is really

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Speaker 20: a ramping up of rhetoric and hate directed at the

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Speaker 20: Jewish community, and there are real world consequences that for

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Speaker 20: Jewish people living in this country.

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Speaker 3: Debra hartch Here at the Holocaust Center of New Zealand

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Speaker 3: says it has to stop. Twenty eight minutes after five,

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Speaker 3: Y're on news Talk, said B. We've got news coming

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Speaker 3: up and the sports tuddle ahead too. On your Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

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Speaker 1: drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on hither Duper c Allen

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: News talk, said b'saving.

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Speaker 3: It is eleven eleventh of July. I should say it

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Speaker 3: is five thirty six. You're on news Talk, said B.

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Speaker 3: After six, we're going to speak to Lauren Cleig. She's

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Speaker 3: running Ikea and they are on the hunt for some

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Speaker 3: employees and boy are they over subscribed. I've got five

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Speaker 3: hundred jobs going. Guess how many people have applied. A

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago it was fifteen thousand. Now twenty

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Speaker 3: thousand plus applicants for five hundred jobs. So we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about what you need to do to get one of those.

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Speaker 3: After six, cock to the woman who's doing the hiring.

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Speaker 3: That's ahead right now, twenty three away from six.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Brick.

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Speaker 3: Now the nurses, thirty six thousand of them around the

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Speaker 3: country will be downing tools to strike at the end

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Speaker 3: of the month. Twenty four hour strike begins nine am

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Speaker 3: thirtieth of July. News Zealow Nurses Organization chief executive Paul

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Speaker 3: Goalter says the latest contract offer for the nurses is

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Speaker 3: worse than the one they received in May. He's with

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Speaker 3: me now, Paul, Good evening, Good evening. How can it

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Speaker 3: be worse than the one you got in May?

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Speaker 21: But that's a very good question because we didn't think

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Speaker 21: it would be, and it is worse. It pulls back

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Speaker 21: on the wages, off offers even less security around safe staffing,

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Speaker 21: and removes a couple of clauses relating to tea hunger

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Speaker 21: allowance and a Maori dispute clause. Yeah, we were surprised

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Speaker 21: by it. It's not normally the way it operates. So

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Speaker 21: looks very much as if government had intervened in the bargaining.

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Speaker 3: What's a tea canger allowance and what did you say,

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Speaker 3: tea hanger allowance in a what Malori dispute?

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Speaker 21: Cause, Yeah, it's basically where the tech hunger allowance is

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Speaker 21: where a Maori a nurse is expected to you know,

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Speaker 21: and use tea hunger in respect to dealing with Maori patients.

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Speaker 21: And there's special skill sits with that and that's actually

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Speaker 21: widely recognized across the public service. And the other procedures

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Speaker 21: relate to disputes or grievances and how that's worked out

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Speaker 21: through a Maori process. And again that's very familiar not

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Speaker 21: just in the public sector but also the private sector.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the tea canger allowance, what would would that

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Speaker 3: be paid to a nurse who could then go and

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Speaker 3: get today or training or something.

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Speaker 21: No, who would be expected to you actually use today

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Speaker 21: and also knowledge a tea hunger to do their work

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Speaker 21: with Maordi patients?

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Speaker 3: Right, so everyone, every nurse gets a tea hunger allowance.

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Speaker 21: Well, you've obviously got to be acquainted with tea hunger

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Speaker 21: and know how to use it, etc. And that's to

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Speaker 21: the point, it's not relevant because they've just taken it

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Speaker 21: off the table.

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Speaker 3: Right. How many were getting it, I'm not sure. So

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Speaker 3: you don't know how big of a deal it is.

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Speaker 21: I don't know how a big a deal it is

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Speaker 21: visa v than none.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's talk about the substantive numbers.

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Speaker 1: Then.

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand says the offer would see new graduate

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Speaker 3: nurses on seventy five, seven hundred and seventy three bucks

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Speaker 3: get an eleven percent increase by the end of June

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Is that not good enough?

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Speaker 21: Well, first of all, let's look at what we're trying

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Speaker 21: to achieve in the bargaining. The major issue is about

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Speaker 21: staffing and ensuring we have enough staff to meet patient

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Speaker 21: need and safety, and that's really the emphasis of the bargaining.

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Speaker 21: The wages area goes into a cost of living movement,

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Speaker 21: which is not high. The major issue is us having

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Speaker 21: enough nurses on the rosters to meet patient need. And

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Speaker 21: we thought we were making some progress about getting some

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Speaker 21: guarantees from the fronto or about meeting that and they

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Speaker 21: got pulled back as well, And so that's really annoyed

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Speaker 21: nurses because it's widely known that nurses are completely under

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Speaker 21: stress due to understaffing. It's got to be fixed.

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Speaker 3: So would you if it's not about pay, then would

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Speaker 3: you be willing to give up that pay increase so

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Speaker 3: they could hire more nurses.

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Speaker 21: It doesn't work that way in bargaining. It's looked at

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Speaker 21: as a package. But we've consistently tried to signal to

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Speaker 21: the government that this issue of getting appropriate staffing in

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Speaker 21: place critical is a profession nurses care about patient safety. No,

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Speaker 21: I know they can preside that.

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Speaker 3: I know that. Okay. So the government says the average

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Speaker 3: nerth nurse has a take home pay of more than

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year, inclusive

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Speaker 3: of overtime and allowances. This is similar to salaries paid

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Speaker 3: to nurses overseas like in New South Wales. And you're

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Speaker 3: telling me that the main issue here is the number

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Speaker 3: of nurses? Are you then accepting this eleven percent pay

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Speaker 3: increases enough? And it's then just comes down to the

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Speaker 3: number of nurses. And if that's the case, how many

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Speaker 3: extra nurses do you want before you will sign?

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Speaker 21: So the first issue relating to the number of nurses

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Speaker 21: we need, this is very difficult to get that data

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Speaker 21: out of the Futtal war. So what we do is

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Speaker 21: we go and basically hospital by hospital or even ward

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Speaker 21: by ward, and they have a staffing model which says

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Speaker 21: this is the appropriate number of staff that are needed

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Speaker 21: on this shift or whatever, and to futtel or consistently

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Speaker 21: don't managed to hit those targets. And this is why

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Speaker 21: these district nurses are getting upset up in Auckland about it.

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Speaker 21: So that that's the that's the critical issue here and

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Speaker 21: in terms.

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Speaker 11: Of the money.

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Speaker 3: But all that, it's just it's complicated because you say

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Speaker 3: you want more nurses, you don't know how many more.

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Speaker 3: You say you don't you want the tea kg of payment,

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Speaker 3: but you're not sure how many we're missing out on it.

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Speaker 3: You see the problem.

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Speaker 21: No, no, it's not a problem. Shift by shift, we

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Speaker 21: can determine how many nurses are actually needed at any

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Speaker 21: one time, and those nurses are just not available. So

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Speaker 21: beginning with, you can't tell at any one time because

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Speaker 21: we don't get access to that data. And that's another

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Speaker 21: point of irritation, quite frankly, because we've denied that data

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Speaker 21: across the country and so I can't answer that directly.

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Speaker 21: But what we can do is asked the fun or

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Speaker 21: to provide the staffing that their own model says is needed.

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Speaker 3: All right, and so the strike going ahead, possible strikes,

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Speaker 3: further strikes after that, potentially see what happens.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well we'll see what happens. You're ever hopeful with

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Speaker 21: the stuff, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Paul, we'll leave it there. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: your time this evening. Paul Goalterchip executive the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Nurses Organization, time now seventeen away from.

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Speaker 22: any in Origin's forty five year history.

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Speaker 23: Here's another injury blow for the All Blacks, with winger

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Speaker 23: Caleb Clark ruled out of tomorrow night's testing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really unfortunate for Gullibe.

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Speaker 24: Been training all well all week and just a free

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Speaker 24: accident as a kid.

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Speaker 21: Pasta strawberry is a little bit of yogurt.

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Speaker 3: Talks AB Canterbury Rugby commentator, Hey Nick, good day Ryan

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Speaker 3: and Andrew Ordison's had two news talks AB sports reader Hey,

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Speaker 3: this is good to see you.

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Speaker 5: Greetings Ryan too.

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Speaker 3: Right now All Blacks France? How much are they going

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Speaker 3: to miss Scott Barrett? Do you reckon? Nick?

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Speaker 25: It is a blow, But in terms of someone who is.

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Speaker 26: And skill set to slot right in there, you can't

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Speaker 26: ask for much more than a guy like Patrick Tooplot too.

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Speaker 25: He's played more than fifty tests in around long time.

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Speaker 25: That's super rugby level. It's it's not necessarily a cut

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Speaker 25: and paste, but you can just allow the slot into

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Speaker 25: a very role about it. The set piece be the

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Speaker 25: line out caller.

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Speaker 3: Oh might have lost neck there Andrew. So not only

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Speaker 3: we've lost captain, well, not only have we lost Nick Bewley,

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Speaker 3: but we've lost Scott Barrett and also Caleb park.

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Speaker 23: Well, that's right, and well we've got there are coming

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Speaker 23: in in that role. But I think that, yeah, I

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Speaker 23: think it's gonna be on a tough contest for the

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Speaker 23: All Blacks. I think quite often in New Zealand, probably

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Speaker 23: New Zealand fans more than the team itself, underestimate France.

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Speaker 23: I know that people saying this is a substandard French team,

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Speaker 23: but these guys are They're the Fixed Nations champions. Sadian

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Speaker 23: Goltie is a pretty cunning and wiley coach building towards

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Speaker 23: the next World's Cup down in these parts in Australia,

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Speaker 23: and I think that time and time again we underestimate Fance.

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Speaker 23: You think two thousand and seven, ninety nine, ninety thirty four,

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Speaker 23: the last time that any side beats the All Blacks

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Speaker 23: Eden Park with the try from the end of the Earth.

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Speaker 23: I'm thoroughly looking forward to it this match in Wellington.

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Speaker 23: See what the French can do because they've switched out

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Speaker 23: a number of players again I think just three in

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Speaker 23: the same dutyes this week.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you can catch it all here News Talks

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Speaker 3: there B of course, very much looking forward to it

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Speaker 3: to Andrew and we will get bully back on the

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Speaker 3: blower with the sports huddle next.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real

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Speaker 1: zem the Ones, Fun MATSED results.

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Speaker 3: You're on News Talks ZB twelve away from six on

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Speaker 3: your Friday night, Nick Buley, News Talks ZB can Toby

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Speaker 3: Rugby commentator is with us Nick at Yes he's here.

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Speaker 3: And Andrew Ordison's here News Talks EDB Sports Reader. Good

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Speaker 3: to have you both on the huddle tonight. Let's go

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Speaker 3: to Wimbledon reaching the business end. Now, Djokovic do you

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Speaker 3: think he can do twenty five?

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Speaker 27: Nick, Well, it's a it's a tough one to answer.

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Speaker 26: I personally think this is the era of Jannick Center

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Speaker 26: and Carlos al Karaz being at the at their dominant best,

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Speaker 26: and Jokovic's going to probably have to get through both

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Speaker 26: of them. He got centered in the semi finals and

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Speaker 26: then win that likely to be Alcoraz in the final.

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Speaker 26: This is not a knock on on Djokovic by any stretch,

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Speaker 26: but I just think the one those two are playing

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Speaker 26: and the agent that they're out, they're playing fast, explosive tennis.

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Speaker 26: They've got the stamina to go well well deep into

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Speaker 26: four or five setters. So personally, I don't think so,

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Speaker 26: but I wouldn't I wouldn't bet against it.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, all who do you see winning

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Speaker 3: the women's final? Well, or is the real winner Strawberry Pasta.

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Speaker 23: Well, look Strawberry pass. I mean that's actually probably going

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Speaker 23: where I'm going With the winner of the women's I

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 23: think egas Fiontek. She's been in five Grand Slam finals.

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Speaker 23: She's won every single one of them. Albit, she's only

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 23: been as far as the quarter finals at Wimbledon until

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Speaker 23: this year.

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Speaker 11: She was there.

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Speaker 23: I think in twenty twenty three, I'm going to pick

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Speaker 23: here over Amanda in this sim Over I think in

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Speaker 23: this has probably already played her final in some ways,

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Speaker 23: beating the world number one Arena Sablenka, But yeah, I

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Speaker 23: think that you know Siontic especially she's got something that

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Speaker 23: strawberry pasta apparently a delicacy in Poland.

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Speaker 10: Ryan, So I'm reading and yeah, I'd.

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Speaker 23: Probably go for strawberries and cream myself. But the ego,

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Speaker 23: I think she'll go on and take it out.

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Speaker 3: It she does, it doesn't sound offensive, you know, It's

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Speaker 3: not like the pineapple pizza, which sounds more offensive to me.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, a huge and nutritional I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What do you think Neck about want to go?

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Speaker 3: I know you're a league man. What do you think

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Speaker 3: about Queensland? Did you think they were going to take

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Speaker 3: the Origin series? How did they do this?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: I must admit I follow queens they myself, Ryan, but

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Speaker 26: I'm as surprised as anyone that they somehow manage to

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Speaker 26: get the job done. It comes back to that old saying,

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Speaker 26: doesn't it that hard work beats talent when talent doesn't

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Speaker 26: work hard. And I think if you look at that

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Speaker 26: new South Wales team and you look at the players,

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Speaker 26: just absolutely stacked with some of the best players that

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Speaker 26: play the game, yet for whatever reason, they weren't able

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Speaker 26: to piece it together as a collective unit and Queensland.

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Speaker 26: You know, they had to go to Sydney, the harder

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Speaker 26: New South Wales to win the series, having lost the

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Speaker 26: opening game in Brisbane.

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Speaker 27: And I just thought it was an inspired performance.

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Speaker 26: Just grit and termination, and you add to the narrative

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Speaker 26: when you've got your captain and Cameron Munster who's going

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Speaker 26: through the tragedy of losing his father just four days

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Speaker 26: before kickoff.

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Speaker 27: It was an inspired performance.

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Speaker 26: So yeah, a lot of soul searching for New South

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Speaker 26: Wales because they really should have won that series based

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Speaker 26: on the players they had at their disposal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, what is going on? I still haven't managed

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Speaker 3: to get my head around Auckland f C. And this,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Richless is pulling out of the stadium

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Speaker 3: at the old Speedway. What do you think is going

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Speaker 3: on here? What's really going on here?

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Speaker 23: Well, I forgive you for having stadium fatigue in Auckland,

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Speaker 23: right and I suffer from that affliction myself.

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Speaker 10: From the time of time.

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Speaker 23: I think that I was surprised it wasn't a more

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Speaker 23: dogged battle and it didn't stick in the fight for

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Speaker 23: that for a longer period where they just felt that

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Speaker 23: they weren't going to make any progress, or it was

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Speaker 23: too long a period for consultation, etc. I mean the

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Speaker 23: saying they're going to put up two hundred to three

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Speaker 23: hundred million dollars to go on fundad. I mean that

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Speaker 23: presumably the taxpayer rate payer wasn't going to have to

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Speaker 23: contribute too much. I wonder how many hooks would have

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Speaker 23: been in that, but as it is now that that's

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Speaker 23: just a key part of it has been removed. So yeah,

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Speaker 23: I don't know where they will go with that. Now,

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Speaker 23: we'll probably just go with what they've you know, with

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Speaker 23: the Western Springs, but previously with the Pantsavi etcetera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is going to cost and this is a

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Speaker 3: sad thing for your rate payers and probably inevitably your taxpayers.

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Speaker 3: It's going to cost us MULA to do it. I

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Speaker 3: suspect just reading their press releases is based on nothing

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Speaker 3: else but that they probably got some private land somewhere

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be a hell of a lot

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Speaker 3: easier for them to do it there.

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Speaker 11: Nick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a.

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Speaker 26: Previous life, Ryan, I used to work in local governments,

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Speaker 26: and I can only assume here this is an issue

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Speaker 26: where red tape is one out and there's no issue

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Speaker 26: in terms of funding. This is just a case where

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01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 26: you know, private and investors want to do things a

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 26: lot easier rather than go through all that that red

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Speaker 26: tape that we bureaucracy at a local government level.

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01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 3: What did you do in local government.

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Speaker 27: I've set myself up here and I was going.

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Speaker 3: To say, don't mention that on News Talks dB.

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Speaker 27: I keep that relatively quiet.

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Speaker 26: I was a media conduit actually in a previous life, Ryan,

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Speaker 26: So I was fielding requests from people like yourself and

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Speaker 26: producers to try and yeah, get some information out there.

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Speaker 27: But very much happy now.

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Speaker 26: I'll work at zibby as a sports commentator, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: We're lucky to have you Nick. Guys, thanks so much,

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your Friday sports title tonight. Great

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Speaker 3: to have you on the program. That's Andrew Orderson, News

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Speaker 3: Talk ZIBB sports reader and Nick Nick Bewley, former spin

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Speaker 3: doctor for local Government. It's six to six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by News Talks ib.

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Speaker 3: Four to six. News Talk said, be on your Friday nights.

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Speaker 3: Ryan nurses striking again. The rest of us cannot get

1244
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: an eleven percent pay increase. Just had ten days of

1245
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: dad in hospital. Good nurses are worth millions. Bad ones

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Speaker 3: still get paid. Unions are the problem, says Mary. Mary.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that. I mean the problem is

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Speaker 3: it's hard once you get unions involved, it's hard to

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Speaker 3: know what they actually want. In all honesty, I've been

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Speaker 3: doing this job for a little while. I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 3: Every time I talk to a unionist, I'm like, what

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Speaker 3: do you actually want? And they can never clearly articulate it.

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01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: What I can tell you is that because of this

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Speaker 3: the strike that's happening, fifteen hundred elective surgeries will be

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Speaker 3: either canceled or postponed, according to the Minister. News Talk

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Speaker 3: said b I care Jobs up next, What's fun?

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Speaker 1: What's down one with a major cause and how will

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Speaker 1: it affect the economy? The big business questions on the

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Speaker 1: Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Insurance and investments,

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Speaker 1: Grow your Wealth, Protect your Future?

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Speaker 2: News Talks at be Goodbeve Man.

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Speaker 3: It is seven after six on News Talks. They'd be

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Speaker 3: coming up inside the next hour. We will wrap the

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Speaker 3: week in politics, including that COVID inquiry. Justin Bieber has

1265
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: new music out that's in Showbiz, Peter Lewis, our Asia

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01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: business correspondent, Trump punishing and potentially going to impose tariffs

1267
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Speaker 3: on bricks countries, and Gavin Gray in the UK all

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Speaker 3: ahead right now. The much anticipated, highly anticipated opening of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's first Ikea store at the end of the

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Speaker 3: year is inching closer and the company has had a

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Speaker 3: massive recruitment drive. They're looking to fill five hundred jobs

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Speaker 3: in all areas of the business. Interest has been through

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Speaker 3: the roof More than fifteen thousand Kiwis have applied, but

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Speaker 3: that was by May. Lauren Clegg is the people and

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Speaker 3: culture manager for IQ and New Zealanders with me now, hello, hello,

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Speaker 3: So you've got five hundred staff you need and you've

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Speaker 3: got fifteen thousand applications. Actually, have you had more than

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Speaker 3: that now?

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Speaker 5: Yes, we must be sitting at least had another five

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Speaker 5: thousand since then, so it's definitely safe to stay. We're

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Speaker 5: are twenty thousand plus at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: Wows, I've ever seen anything like that in stores that's

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Speaker 3: opened overseas.

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Speaker 5: Look, it's really hard to compare with other store openings,

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Speaker 5: but we definitely knew that it would be high expectation,

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Speaker 5: large volume numbers, but probably nothing like this. Been really

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Speaker 5: humbled at the response so far for sure.

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Speaker 3: And have you whittled down have you hired anyone yet?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Of the five hundred, we've got eighty five co workers

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Speaker 5: on board already and then yeah, essentially root four night

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Speaker 5: from now until the end of the year, we have

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Speaker 5: between sort of ten to fifty starting each fortnite to

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Speaker 5: get us to the total of five hundred.

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Speaker 3: What sort of roles are you wanting to fill?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so at the moment, we've got a real variety

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Speaker 5: left open. So we've still got quite a few roles

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Speaker 5: in fulfillment, so logistics, foot left driving, as well as

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Speaker 5: a lot of roles in sales, all of our shop

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Speaker 5: floor roles. And one probably real unique part of our

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Speaker 5: care is that we've decided to bring our remote customer

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Speaker 5: meeting point to New Zealand, which is another sixty seven jobs.

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Speaker 5: And those roles are essentially sort of similar to a

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Speaker 5: contact seem to us. So people are really helping our

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Speaker 5: omniw channel presence in New Zealand taking orders and supporting

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Speaker 5: people online. And as well as that, we want a

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Speaker 5: really large restaurant in the store, so lots of food

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Speaker 5: co workers we're looking for as well.

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Speaker 3: Are you finding it hard to fill any particular jobs

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Speaker 3: like that need particular skills?

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Speaker 5: The honest answer to that is no. I think a

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Speaker 5: lot of that is Jude. The recruitment process we have

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Speaker 5: that we're really looking for really good culture and values

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Speaker 5: set with our care So it's not that someone comes

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Speaker 5: with a really specific CV, you know, or experience, So

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Speaker 5: we're really looking for values that which we've found. I

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Speaker 5: guess a really natural alignment between what IKA stands for

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Speaker 5: and what New Zealanders seem to be wanting with someone.

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Speaker 11: To work for.

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Speaker 3: What sort of places are people applying from? Is it

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Speaker 3: like former warehouse, former supermarkets, former retail?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all of the above. So we've definitely got hospitality,

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Speaker 5: lots of retail applicants, and I honestly a lot of

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Speaker 5: people that are just between workmen had admin jobs or

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Speaker 5: even for the first job as well, So a real variety.

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Speaker 5: But it showed me a lot of hospitality and retail.

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Speaker 3: Given there's no Ikea store in New Zealand at the moment,

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Speaker 3: how do you train staff?

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Speaker 10: Do you?

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Speaker 3: You do have a huge sort of onboard process.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a unique challenge that we've got at

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Speaker 5: the moment. I think we've tackled it a few ways.

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Speaker 5: But one thing is we are sending a lot of

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Speaker 5: our leadership over to Australia. It's a differentations to really

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Speaker 5: experience the in through experience because there's nothing quite like it.

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Speaker 5: And then I guess coupled with that, we've got a

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Speaker 5: quite intensive onboarding with a lot of online trainings, and

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Speaker 5: we've certainly invested with a lot of the leadership teams

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Speaker 5: coming from BY Care stores globally, so they kind of

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Speaker 5: really bring with them that facilitation strength and are able

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Speaker 5: to offer a lot of training here as well.

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Speaker 3: And in terms of the perks that you will get

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Speaker 3: if you are an employee at I Care, you know

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Speaker 3: what sort of paid peren to leave, what sort of discounts,

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Speaker 3: what sort of you know, annual leave.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe one of a few of

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Speaker 5: the ones that we're really proud of is everyone will

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Speaker 5: get five weeks pay annual leave, so four weeks and

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Speaker 5: you'll leave, and then we call one week by KEA leaves,

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Speaker 5: so five weeks leave in total. I've also obviously got

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Speaker 5: pay per rental leave. Family and community leave is another one.

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Speaker 5: And then in terms of your question around the discount.

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Speaker 5: So employee discount on care goods is fifteen percent. And

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Speaker 5: I guess one of the call things about I care

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Speaker 5: is I guess the real career growth you get inside.

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Speaker 5: Like I mentioned, you could start in with the stacks,

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Speaker 5: but you could end up in food running the restaurant,

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Speaker 5: could end up on the sales force. I think one

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Speaker 5: of the real benefits of people is seem like a

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Speaker 5: long term career with us for other than maybe a

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Speaker 5: job that they might be ready to leave in a

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Speaker 5: few years.

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Speaker 3: When's the opening date.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm for the end of the year. We're doing

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Speaker 5: everything we can to get there for late twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: That Dan realize's so much excitement and expectation around it.

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Speaker 5: But keeping that one under wraps.

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Speaker 3: For now, well, a lot of people are very excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure to go and see it. Lauren, Thank you

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Speaker 3: for that. Lauren Clegg, people and culture manager at IKEA

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand, opening sometime before Christmas twelve. After six

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZIBB, next, Jason Walls wraps the Week in Politics.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio Empowered by News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zibby News Talk Zibb. It is quarter past six, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: can they hire We just spoke to the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: manager for Ikea. They have five hundred jobs on off.

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Speaker 3: They've had twenty thousand plus applicants. Somebody says, Ryan, can

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Speaker 3: they hire the redundant vic Park workers? That was after

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Speaker 3: the fire, you'll remember from a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: My understanding, Texter, my understanding is that they have all

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Speaker 3: been offered work. There is another New World store that

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Speaker 3: is opening in a suburb nearby in Point chev My

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Speaker 3: understanding is that they've got jobs there. They're bringing forward

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Speaker 3: the opening of that store, and then the remainder who

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Speaker 3: haven't been offered jobs at that point will get work

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Speaker 3: with other food stuff's businesses. So if that's not the case,

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Speaker 3: I would love to hear more about that, because they

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Speaker 3: made a commitment. New Will made a commitment that when

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Speaker 3: that fire happened, that nobody would be without a job.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Jason Wall's News Talks. They'd

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Speaker 3: be political editor to wrap the political week. Jason, welcome back. Oh,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much. The COVID inquiry was back. We'll

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Speaker 3: just sinder a doin really testify. Is Hipkins making a

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Speaker 3: mistake discounting those who's speak as conspiracy theorists.

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Speaker 13: Well, in terms of just send our Deurn, I'm not

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Speaker 13: convinced she's going to front up the way that we think.

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Speaker 10: That she might.

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Speaker 13: I sit in some seat over zoom. She certainly won't

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Speaker 13: do it in the country and provide a testimony that

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Speaker 13: we can all watch it happen.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more.

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Speaker 13: Convinced that she's just going to provide evidence in terms

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Speaker 13: of written statements and whatnot. That's because we've got a

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Speaker 13: brief statement from just sinder Ardurn earlier this week which

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Speaker 13: said that she will provide evidence to assist the Commission

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Speaker 13: in meeting its terms of reference. We are in discussions

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Speaker 13: about the best way for that to occur. Then she

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Speaker 13: goes on to say she is also happy for the

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Speaker 13: Commission to access her previous testimony from the Commissions of

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Speaker 13: Inquiries first stage.

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Speaker 3: So listen, she might.

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Speaker 13: Surprise me and actually do as sit down interview. And

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Speaker 13: I think absolutely and I agree with you on this

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Speaker 13: one and most other people, I think that she absolutely should.

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Speaker 13: She was a critical part of New Zealand's COVID nineteen

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Speaker 13: response and if we're looking to get better, and if

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Speaker 13: we're looking to improve when it comes to the next pandemic,

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Speaker 13: and then her testimony will be pivotal for something like that.

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Speaker 13: In terms of what Chris Hipkins said, yeah, of course

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Speaker 13: it was a mistake. It seemed like he was very

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Speaker 13: much belittling the process. And I do notice note that

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Speaker 13: after he made the comments to you on Harold Now,

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Speaker 13: he walked them up back a little bit with Carrie

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Speaker 13: Woodham when he was doing talk back with her. So

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Speaker 13: obviously he saw that. And you know, he could have

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Speaker 13: meant it the way that he said he did, which

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Speaker 13: is he was just talking about the people that will

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Speaker 13: rile them up, such as the Brian Tomacky's of the world,

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Speaker 13: and not the commission itself. But I think at that

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Speaker 13: stage the horse had bolted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the story this week was the lizard thing, and

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Speaker 3: I'm still not quite sure where were at with this story.

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Speaker 3: But did Shane's lizard bluster have an effect?

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Speaker 13: I think it absolutely had an effect. I mean, this

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Speaker 13: is the Department of Conservation which came back and said whoa,

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Speaker 13: whoa who Actually all right, all right, well, we'll work

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Speaker 13: with the mind to establish what's going on here. And

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Speaker 13: how we can help them. I don't think that would

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Speaker 13: have happened without Shane Jones getting on the radio the

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Speaker 13: way that he did and talking about how there were

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Speaker 13: more there are more lizards in the area than acne

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Speaker 13: on a teenage boys face. And I thought his a

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Speaker 13: very creative use of language sticks in people's minds because

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Speaker 13: it is exactly one of those things. I mean, if

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Speaker 13: you're a conservationist, if you're agreeing or not, as they

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Speaker 13: were talking about seven hundred to one thousand job as

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Speaker 13: being impacted by this, and you just think that there

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Speaker 13: had been some major pressure from Cabinet on the Department

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Speaker 13: of Conservation on this one. And I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 13: I've oaed all the communications between the Minister of Conservation

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Speaker 13: and the Department just to see what exactly went on here.

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Speaker 3: Interesting because they came out their statement from Doc said, oh,

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Speaker 3: the Minister has been telling us to get rid of

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Speaker 3: this backlog of applications and we have, We've halved them.

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Speaker 3: But then you wonder, well, are they harving the backlog

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Speaker 3: by just you know, declining them all.

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean they might just be saying noah to

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Speaker 13: to some of the ones that were a little bit

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Speaker 13: more of a maybe before just to make it go

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Speaker 13: a little bit quicker. So maybe, yeah, maybe Shane John

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Speaker 13: does have some reflection to do on that point.

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Speaker 3: That poll that had Winston well and you said on

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Speaker 3: first popping up ahead into the third most popular party's

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Speaker 3: sees at the moment, of course in KL But he'll

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Speaker 3: be happy with that, Oh, he'll be thrilled.

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Speaker 13: And I my entire career asking Winston questions, I know

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Speaker 13: the one thing that you shouldn't ask him is about polls,

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Speaker 13: but I think that he might have made him an

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Speaker 13: exception for this one.

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Speaker 10: I mean, there are three.

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Speaker 13: Point seven percentage points.

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Speaker 27: It's huge.

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Speaker 13: They're now on the cusp of double digits at nine

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Speaker 13: point eight percent. They've leapfrogged act who are at nine

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Speaker 13: point one, and they still I mean, they're still.

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Speaker 1: All right up there.

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Speaker 13: It just goes to show that the governing parties are

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Speaker 13: doing quite well right now, whereas the left are struggling somewhat.

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Speaker 13: I mean, Labor was down three point two percentage points,

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Speaker 13: but that's because we really haven't heard a lot from

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Speaker 13: Labor in the last couple of weeks, unless it was

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Speaker 13: Chris Hipkins talking about the COVID inquiry.

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Speaker 3: Jason appreciate that, Thank you very much. Jason Will's News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be Political Editor with us twenty after six on

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Speaker 3: your Friday evening. I hope you're keeping as well as

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Speaker 3: dry as you can if you're a Nelson Tasman and

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Speaker 3: in Auckland where the rain was supposed to be quite

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Speaker 3: bad in the next few hours. Next it's showbiz and

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Speaker 3: guess who is out with new music. I thought this

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Speaker 3: guy was sort of done and dusted, but apparently he's

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Speaker 3: got a new album out. I'll tell you who it is.

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Speaker 2: Next, approaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and MAS Insurance

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Speaker 1: and Investments Crew, Your Wealth, Protect Your Future News Talks V.

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Speaker 3: Six twenty three News Talks. W'd be Peter Lewis, Asia

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Speaker 3: Business correspondent with US after six thirty News and our

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent Gavin Gray trooping of the carlor happening over

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Speaker 3: there in London at the moment. We'll get to that shortly.

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Speaker 3: Ryan's sorry, but I've lost all sympathy for the upcoming

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Speaker 3: strike action. This is the nurses Union which is doing

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Speaker 3: a twenty four hour strike. Lost all sympathy for the

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Speaker 3: upcoming strike action. When the union rep you were speaking

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Speaker 3: to went down the path of te Kang of payments.

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Speaker 3: Clearly the union is not reading the room. With the

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Speaker 3: current government moving away from race based policies, says Gary,

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Speaker 3: they just not listening. Ryan. The unions aren't owed data

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Speaker 3: because the union member we were speaking to is saying

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Speaker 3: they need to know from far from Health New Zealand

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Speaker 3: tough fart to order, what is a safe staffing level,

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Speaker 3: how many nurses are we short, etc. He's saying we

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Speaker 3: need that data. This text is saying they don't know

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Speaker 3: you anything. The employer determines the staffing levels. The employee

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Speaker 3: decides if they want the job or not. Pretty simple.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four minutes.

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Speaker 2: After six Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: In Showbiz News this evening, it's the Bebes. Justin Bieber

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Speaker 3: has returned from a four year hiatus with a brand

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Speaker 3: new album. It's called Swag. It's Bieber's seventh album since

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Speaker 3: he started in twenty ten. If this comes as a

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Speaker 3: surprise to you, you're not alone. Fans got less than

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours notice. This is why it didn't make

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Speaker 3: sense when I read this headline. Billboards with the record's

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Speaker 3: track list have appeared in Iceland and Times Square. Tracks

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Speaker 3: include Dad's Love Therapy Session and Devotion. Justin's been a

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Speaker 3: a bit of hot water recently. Fans have been quite

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Speaker 3: concerned about his safety after recent public outbursts.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting it.

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Speaker 27: It's not cloking to you.

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Speaker 2: It's not clocking to you that I'm standing on business,

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Speaker 2: is it.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's sad. It reminds me of Britney Spears.

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Speaker 3: It's just got all the hallmarks of a Brittany breakdown,

1534
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: divorce rumors with wife Hayley Beaber. Anyway, new album is

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Speaker 3: coming out. Here is a taste of Daisies.

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Speaker 9: So many days and I can see you workin kisses

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Speaker 9: though with n to shoot on my show, jumy a

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Speaker 9: p happing up the cover on the friskin skin, the

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Speaker 9: way you're gumy on my head.

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Speaker 7: And early you muppy.

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Speaker 2: Is you know?

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Speaker 9: I can tee it date so many dates that I

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Speaker 9: can see her in the working Oh malcom holding feels.

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Speaker 28: I mean, oh no, my bead.

1545
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Speaker 10: Me.

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01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to be lolling.

1547
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Speaker 2: You got benalling. You'll have benning.

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Speaker 28: You'll have to be yalling you.

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Speaker 7: The way you'll call me on the head.

1550
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Speaker 13: You have me the.

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Speaker 9: Lea you be popping.

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01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 7: Whatever it is, you know, I can see it.

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Speaker 29: I'm telling the.

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Speaker 9: Date and how many dates that I can see you working.

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: Okay, whether it's macro microbe or just plain economics.

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and theirs.

1557
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future.

1558
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Speaker 2: Use Talks V if they're feeling down.

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Speaker 7: Just make you.

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Speaker 10: Good.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five way from seven News Talks MB, we'll get

1562
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: to Gavin Gray out of the UK. Before top of

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 3: the Tarkica. There's been an alert issued, an emergency mobile

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01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 3: alert for residents in Tarcica inside the last twenty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Flooding possible in the township. If you feel unsafe, they

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Speaker 3: are advising you, that is, the authorities advising you to

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Speaker 3: get to higher ground if you can. If you can't,

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Speaker 3: call one one one, it's an emergency situation. A lot

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Speaker 3: of flooding that they expecting, the a lot of rainfall

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Speaker 3: still happening across the country. Twenty five away from seven now,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge and we're going to Peter Lewis that Asia

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01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 3: Business correspondent Peter, Welcome to the show. Good evening, right,

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Speaker 3: good evening now, Trump is punishing bricks countries with more tariffs.

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01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 24: Yes, indeed, he said that this is to punish what

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01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,879
Speaker 24: he describes as the anti American policies of the bricks nations,

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01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 24: and they're going to face as a result of that

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01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 24: in an additional ten percent tariff. He doesn't say at

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01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 24: all what those policies are or what he expects them

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 24: to do about it. And in some ways it's all

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 24: rather odd because the bricks really it's just a name

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01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 24: for a group of five similar or roughly similar economies.

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 24: It was coined by an economist of Gold and Sachs

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01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 24: about twenty years ago for Russia, India, China, South Africa

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 24: and Brazil, and it sort of stuck since then. But

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 24: of course this is not a sovereign country or even

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01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 24: a block of countries in the same way that the

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01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 24: European Union has, so it can't respond as a group. Really,

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01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 24: it's very difficult for it to do so. In any way.

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Speaker 24: This group has now expanded to ten countries, includes places

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01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 24: like Iran and Saudi Arabia, so they really can't agree

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01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 24: on anything at all. But the one country that has

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 24: responded forcefully to this is Brazil. Now that's firstly because

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01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 24: it's just held the last Brick Summit in Rio a

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 24: week or so ago. But also on top of that,

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 24: Donald Trump has now imposed or threatened to impose fifty

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 24: percent tariffs on Brazil. Partly, it seems because he feels

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01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 24: that they're treating badly their former prime minister, former President's Bolsonario,

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01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 24: who is a friend of Donald Trump's. So Donald Trump

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Speaker 24: is using tariffs now not just as a weapon in trade,

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Speaker 24: but a way of expressing his grievances about almost anything

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 24: he doesn't like with any country. And it seems to

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01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 24: go well well beyond trade, so it leaves no room

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01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 24: whatsoever for negotiation here. And Brazilian President Lula da Silva

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 24: has responded very false forcefully to this. He said it's

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01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 24: a blatant interference in the judiciary process of his country.

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Speaker 24: They're going to respond with reciprocal tariffs of their own,

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Speaker 24: and he basically said they're not going to accept any

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01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 24: lectures from the USA. I suspect other countries in the

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01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 24: Bricks groupings feel similarly, and we'll see statements from some

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Speaker 24: of them. We've already heard from China, but we'll see

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Speaker 24: statements from some of them soon. But remember that some

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01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 24: of those countries there, like India, are quite friendly to

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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 24: the US, so they're not going to want to upset

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01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 24: the US too much, particularly when maybe they're on the

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 24: verge of coming up with a trade deal of their own.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating, isn't it, Because trade wars enterefs are one thing.

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01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 3: If that is what the you know the weapon is

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01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 3: being used. But when you start talking about interfering with

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01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 3: other judicial systems or constitutions, there's a totally different kindle

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01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 3: the first, isn't.

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Speaker 24: That absolutely, and the US would never stand for a

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01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 24: country doing the same to them. But Donald Trump seems

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01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 24: to use tariffs as an all encompassing weapon now to

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01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 24: basically sometimes just expresses dislike for a country and its leaders.

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01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 24: We've seen this with Canada for example. It's clear that

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01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 24: he really hasn't liked, he didn't like at all, Justin Trudeau.

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01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 24: Although he says he has a good relationship with Mark Carney,

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01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 24: he says that with everyone, and he doesn't seem to

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01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 24: get on that well with Canada either at the moment.

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Speaker 24: And this is used to basically punish countries and to

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01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 24: try and impose American policies and politics on independent sovereign nations.

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Speaker 3: Now, how likely is that Vietnam will soon have a

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01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: trade deal with the US.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they will.

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Speaker 27: They will.

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01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 24: Donald Trump claims that they have one already, although we

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01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 24: haven't seen anything written down about this. When he says

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01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 24: he's agreed with Vietnam's Communist Party, chief to Lamb is

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01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 24: a twenty percent tariff on Vietnamese exports to the US,

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Speaker 24: and then a forty percent tariff on any goods that

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01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 24: are deemed to be transhipped through the country. Now this

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01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 24: is important because this could well be a model for

1643
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 24: other trade deals going forward. But what Trump is concerned

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01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 24: about is Chinese products, the products that don't originate in

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01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 24: Vietnam in the first place, but come from other countries,

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01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 24: and particularly China. He has in mind they go through

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01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 24: Vietnam and then end up in the US as a

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01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 24: way of bypassing Trump's tariffs on those particular countries. Now,

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01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 24: China is very concerned about this because it sees it

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01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 24: as damaging its interests in the region and for its

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01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 24: ability to trade with third party countries. And in some

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01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 24: ways it's not too bad a deal for Vietnam. Vietnam

1653
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 24: is very, very heavily dependent upon the US for its trade.

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01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 24: It certainly needs to come up with some deal, and

1655
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 24: this is better than the one that was being proposed

1656
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 24: back in April. And if it can get to grips

1657
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 24: with these tradesshipments, I'm not sure how it's going to

1658
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 24: do that because they're very, very difficult to identify and

1659
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 24: do something about. But if it can get to grips

1660
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 24: with them, then in effect it's got a twenty percent

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01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 24: tariff with the US, then it could live with. It's

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01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 24: not ideal, and it will have an impact on its economy,

1663
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 24: but nothing like the sort of the impacts that higher

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01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 24: tariff's up to maybe fifty percent would have had on

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01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 24: Vietnam's economy. So they're still talking. Put this down in writing,

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01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 24: but I suspect we will see a deal with the

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01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 24: Vietnam and this will prove very very important for the

1668
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 24: Asia Pacific region.

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 3: Interesting, Peter. The number of companies looking to list in

1671
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 3: Hong Kong is heading all time highs. What's prompting this, Well,

1672
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: it's a few things.

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01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 24: There are Hong Kong companies that are already listed, so

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 24: Chinese companies that are already listed in the mainland that

1675
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 24: want to raise extra money through the secondary list Through

1676
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 24: secondary listings, they are very concerned about going to the

1677
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 24: US to list, partly because of the political issues between

1678
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 24: China and the US, but also they are fearful that

1679
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 24: they could be forced eventually to dlist because there are

1680
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 24: bills going through Congress which want to take firm or

1681
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 24: action against Chinese companies listed in New York and going

1682
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 24: as far as forcing them to be delisted. So it

1683
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 24: makes the US a difficult option. And in addition, the

1684
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 24: Hong Kong stock market has been boot this year. It's

1685
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 24: up over twenty percent. It's one of the best performing

1686
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 24: markets in the world this year, so companies want to

1687
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 24: take advantage of that to come and list here in

1688
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 24: Hong Kong. And as a result, the Hong Kong Exchange

1689
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 24: is the number one listing venue in the world in

1690
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 24: the first half of the year almost fourteen billion dollars

1691
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 24: worth of initial public offerings and secondary listings. That takes

1692
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 24: it ahead of the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange.

1693
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 24: So companies, you know, like like some of the like

1694
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 24: some of the retail firms in particular that are already

1695
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 24: listed in China are using this as an opportunity to

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01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 24: go and raise new money in Hong Kong, and in

1697
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 24: some ways that money is then sort of ring fenced

1698
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 24: from their China operations and they can use that to

1699
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 24: go and expand elsewhere in the world.

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01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 3: Fascinating, Peter, thank you for that. Paid Lewis that Asia

1701
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 3: Business correspondent on your Friday night here on News Talk

1702
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 3: CB at ten minutes away from six, sorry from seven.

1703
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 3: Coming up next, Gavin Gray is in the UK. UK

1704
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: and France have agreed on a new one in, one

1705
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 3: out policy. Look I told you about this policy earlier.

1706
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 3: Sounds like an absolute joke to me. Maybe Gavin Gray

1707
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: has a different opinion. He's on the show next, Everything

1708
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 3: from SMS to the big corporates, The Business Hour.

1709
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: With Ryan Bridge and Mayor's Insurance and Investments, Grew your Wealth,

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Speaker 1: Protect your Future newstalgs EDB.

1711
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 3: Hey, it's great to have you with me this Friday evening.

1712
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 3: It's fourteen away from seven o'clock. Now let's go to

1713
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 3: Gavin Gray. He's in the UK. Are UK correspondent, Gavin,

1714
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 3: Good evening, Good morning to you are there aunts?

1715
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 10: Now?

1716
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 3: UK France have agreed on this. Can you sell this

1717
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: to me? This one in one out policy. It's I mean,

1718
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 3: it doesn't solve the problem, does it.

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01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 29: I think they hope it's going to act as a deterrance.

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Speaker 29: So Ryan, basically the system will be that, and we

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Speaker 29: expect this to start. Incidentally, within a few weeks, some

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01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,879
Speaker 29: arrivals here in the UK will be returned to France,

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01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 29: but in exchange, the UK will accept an equivalent number

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Speaker 29: of asylum seekers subject to security checks, and also those

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01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 29: who have not tried to break the law by getting

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Speaker 29: into the UK before. And it's that crucial last sentence

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01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 29: that they're saying, right, you might be allowed to get

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01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 29: into the UK legally, but not if you've tried to

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Speaker 29: do it illegally in the past.

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Speaker 11: So the question is will add act as a de terran?

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Speaker 29: But the numbers of what we don't know. It's reported

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01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 29: that this game could see up to fifty people a

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01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 29: week being returned. Ryan, We are getting sometimes thousands in

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01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 29: a week coming in and so one begins to think,

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01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 29: will that really put people off?

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Speaker 11: Will that be a deterrent?

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Speaker 29: And many people as well believe in that the hundreds

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01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 29: of millions of pounds rumored to be seven hundred million pounds,

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01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 29: that the Great Britain has given to France in order

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01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 29: to combat the people's smiting gangs and to try and

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01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 29: prevent these boats from leaving our shows. Many are thinking,

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01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 29: you know, I think you know, we should have the

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01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 29: money back. I mean, where's that been spent because we've

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01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 29: seen very little improvement in there. Nigel Farage, the leader

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01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 29: of Reform UK want to be future leader of the country,

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01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 29: and of course the Brexit architect, described this deal as

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01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 29: a humiliation for the UK, saying it will do absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because the knit you had the same number coming,

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01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 3: won't you. I mean that's sure though. The security I

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01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 3: just can't understand it. What is What is his solution?

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Speaker 3: By the way, because he's obviously way up in the polls,

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01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 3: everybody loves him. What's his solution.

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Speaker 29: Well, he's saying, look, we've got to get tough like

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01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 29: Australia did and simply tow the boats back to France. Now,

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Speaker 29: if he says that is ruled to be illegal, which

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01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 29: it probably will be, he says, then we need to

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01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 29: leave the European Court of Human Rights and say goodbye

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01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 29: to that and all that that entail and say that

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01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 29: we have to get tough. We have to tow them

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Speaker 29: back into French waters, and he said, and if votes

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01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 29: begin to sink that, I'm afraid that the French will

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01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 29: have to mop up and have to stand by and

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01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 29: face the music. On that he is talking tough, but

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01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 29: I do think now it's reached a situation twenty two

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01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 29: thousand so far this year, up fifty percent the year before,

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01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 29: something they think needs to be done. And of course

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01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 29: this government on day one counseled the previous government's plan

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01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 29: for a processing center in Rwanda, which was again meant

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01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 29: to be a deterrent, but has done nothing to dip

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01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 29: the numbers itself. And this is a huge vote winner

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01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 29: or vote loser.

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Speaker 11: But around one thing I should say on this topic.

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Speaker 29: France says it's going to accept them back, but on

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01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 29: the basis that those people are resettled in the country

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01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 29: in which they've first arrived in the European Union, which

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01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 29: is law, they are supposed to claim asylum in the

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01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 29: first country. Now often that's Greece or Italy, but no,

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01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 29: they continue their journey through other countries, including France, to

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01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 29: get to the UK, and at no point are they

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01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 29: claiming asylum in those countries. And again plenty of people

1782
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 29: think that is bizarre and odd and it's wrong. And

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01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 29: also on the point now Greece and Italy are very

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01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 29: worried that the ones who are returned from the UK

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01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 29: will end back in those countries and they say they're swamped.

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01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 11: Gosh.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Meanwhile, the UK economy strength unexpectedly in maye.

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01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 29: Yeah, just got these figures in and already now we've

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01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 29: heard from Ragerie's the Chancellor saying it's disappointing, saying we

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01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 29: need to get more money in people's pockets. But yeah,

1791
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 29: this is very bad in that it was a point

1792
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 29: three percent decline in April and now we've had a

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01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 29: point one percent four in May.

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01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 27: Might not sound significant.

1795
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 29: We had point seven percent growth at the beginning of

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01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 29: the year, but that was different because lots of businesses

1797
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 29: were trying to get ahead of tax changes that were

1798
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 29: coming in with uncertainty about tariff, so also exporters trying

1799
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 29: to get orders out of the door. Now two months

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 29: of decline, the economy is clearly stagnating, if not going

1801
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 29: into recession. And why well, lots of different reasons being

1802
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 29: potentially given for this decline because a forecasters have predicted

1803
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 29: an increase, not a decrease, oil and gas extraction down,

1804
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 29: car making and pharmaceutical industries weaker. The services sector grew,

1805
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 29: but yeah, not enough to tip the balance in the

1806
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 29: right direction.

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01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 3: Kevin, appreciate that. Thank you very much for your report.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gray, UK correspondent. It is nine away, sorry, just

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks went on the week and if they don't,

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Speaker 3: you are this weekend. It sounds like you won't avoid

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Speaker 3: so much for listening. Everyone, been a great week, enjoyed

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Speaker 3: your company. Have a fantastic weekend. And it's what are

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Speaker 3: we going out to?

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01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 30: Going out to some Lord tonight, Ryan our favorite daughter

1830
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 30: off the new album Vergin. Because the news is out.

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Speaker 30: It's finally happening. We know it's happening. Lord is coming

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Speaker 30: back to New Zealand. She'll be playing two shows. She'll

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Speaker 30: be playing at Auckland Spark Arena on February the eleventh.

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Speaker 3: Then she'll be.

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Speaker 30: Playing at christ Church's Wolfbrook Arena on February thirteen. So

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Speaker 30: I keep an eye out with.

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Speaker 3: The tickets to that one and taste. I have a

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Speaker 3: great one. See you on Monday.

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Speaker 7: If you wear.

1840
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 28: Run I'm always fun to your ring ing my beads.

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01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 28: How can you say, I'm so you had a brother?

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01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 5: I look like him?

1843
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 7: Get so US's kiss. He died of a broken heart

1844
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Speaker 7: and a fool. Every door you openness for I can

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01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 7: go in up break. I still can't find you.

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Speaker 28: Now that every day plane takes off and every night

1847
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 28: the roof fills up, but tell myself so filters.

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Speaker 7: Up then last seing every word, just.

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Speaker 31: See ya because I'm an address, I look the medalsa

1850
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 31: what for your.

1851
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 7: Panicos address? To be your favorite friend?

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Speaker 11: So uh that.

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Speaker 7: Where I run, I'm always grow into your bringing my better,

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Speaker 7: give me the way of your.

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Speaker 20: Until I.

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Speaker 7: Want to treat sothing.

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01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 26: But I did not want this.

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Speaker 2: And when you hid.

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Speaker 31: Your look at the address, look at the medics were

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Speaker 31: for you, so you could imagine being a favorite frien, always.

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Speaker 7: Weighing up atist to be as braves.

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