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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, news togs Dead b Noving and Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Today's scandal around Farna or our education and Rugby. Nicola

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Speaker 2: Willis has written another letter to the supermarkets. James may

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Speaker 2: Is in for a word after Right, Joe McKenna's and

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Speaker 2: Venice with a Big Wedding, and Rod Little he Does

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Speaker 2: written for us asking this day morning, welcome to its

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Speaker 2: seven past six. The Antoinette latoof Case in Australia probably

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Speaker 2: worth looking at if you're interested in the media and

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Speaker 2: in law. She was sacked by the ABC because she

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Speaker 2: posted an opinion on the Israel gars of Warnow prizes

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Speaker 2: for getting which side she's on. The irony here is

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Speaker 2: she was on a five day fill in contract. She

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Speaker 2: was a no noise maker, so you could argue she

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Speaker 2: probably should not have even been hired in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Because public radio have these weird rules. You're not allowed

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Speaker 2: an opinion, or at least you need to pretend you're

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Speaker 2: not have an opinion. She was told not to post

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Speaker 2: stuff socially. She ignored that so their sector trouble is

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Speaker 2: the Fair Work Actor in Australia says you can aunt

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Speaker 2: ZAC someone for an opinion. Hence they lost. So they

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Speaker 2: pay seventy thousand dollars and there's another hearing it a

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Speaker 2: later at eight four pecuniary matters. Now this is bad

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Speaker 2: for the ABC because one, this isn't their first rodeo.

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Speaker 2: They're a bit hopeless in this area. Two, it's all

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Speaker 2: taxpayers money. Three the Fair Work Act isn't complicated, so

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Speaker 2: they should have seen this coming and bailed on the

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Speaker 2: case early given the legals to this point standard a

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Speaker 2: million dollars in rising. But it does once again bring

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Speaker 2: into question in this absurd business of so called impartiality

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Speaker 2: or indeed impartiality in different places. Miss latoof as far

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Speaker 2: as I know, remembering she only had a five day

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Speaker 2: contract and I think she had only completed two of

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Speaker 2: the five days, didn't actually do anything wrong on air

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Speaker 2: at the ABC. Her social media is not the domain

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Speaker 2: of her part time employer, or is it. And if

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Speaker 2: it is, where's the line in a social media world

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Speaker 2: what is work and what is not? When it comes

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Speaker 2: to profile? Can you be pro Palestinian on the weekend

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Speaker 2: but neutral during the week. This is the absurdity of

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Speaker 2: what we deal with. Authenticity, I think is the key here.

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Speaker 2: You can be balanced in reportage and hold an overt

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Speaker 2: view the same way you can hold an overt view

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Speaker 2: and be imbalanced. The great fraud that has been exposed

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Speaker 2: in media all over the world, but especially here in

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Speaker 2: the labor COVID years, is the idea that you can

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Speaker 2: pretend you hold no view and whatever you produce is balanced,

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Speaker 2: even when most of the consumers see it for what

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Speaker 2: it really is. That essentially is why so much media

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Speaker 2: and credibility has been destroyed. And that's the stuff that

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Speaker 2: didn't even make it to court. News of the world

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Speaker 2: in ninety seconds, Can I toe where they talk war

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Speaker 2: and Jackson five percent? Oh, and the business of the

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Speaker 2: Sea spire.

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Speaker 3: They're both tired, exhausted. They've fought very very hard and

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Speaker 3: very viciously, very violently, and they were both satisfied to

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Speaker 3: go home and get out and can it start? And again,

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Speaker 3: I guess someday it can. It could maybe start soon.

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Speaker 2: Still some fascination from the media that a president might swear.

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Speaker 4: Let him fight for about two or three minutes.

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Speaker 3: Then it's easier to start.

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Speaker 2: Up, and then daddy has sometimes to do a strong

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Speaker 2: language in school.

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Speaker 4: Strong you have to use a certain word.

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Speaker 2: Deaddie has to do strong language. That guy's the head

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Speaker 2: of NATO, by the way. He's got like an important job.

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Speaker 2: Has Zakiya, who's busy telling his fellow Brits at the

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Speaker 2: moment they need to be ready for war. He's all

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Speaker 2: over more spinding.

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Speaker 5: We estimate that we will reach at least four point

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Speaker 5: one percent of GDP in twenty twenty seven, keeping the

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Speaker 5: British people safe and strengthening our leadership in NATO.

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Speaker 2: Even further back in around the cease fires a bit

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Speaker 2: of a misfire.

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Speaker 6: We will crush their mic he says, will throw a

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Speaker 6: punch into the mouths of the United States and Desigonists.

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Speaker 6: Now we're obeying the commands of the Supreme Leader, she says.

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Speaker 6: If he orders jihad, we will follow. We should have

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Speaker 6: finished the story. We should have totally wiped out Israel Jeez.

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Speaker 2: In Kenya, they're marking a year since they stormed the parliament.

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Speaker 2: They stormed the parliament because they're really unhappy. So a

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Speaker 2: year on there. No, it's not a celebration.

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Speaker 1: For the job that we don't have the for everything

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Speaker 1: that we don't have.

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Speaker 7: We are having economic raise up.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: We are youths for the youths man. I'm talking about

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Speaker 6: for the youths man.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about job bless We are job bless man.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, it's uplifting this morning so far, isn't it? Then?

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Speaker 2: In New York, hold my beer a boil over, we're

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Speaker 2: not talking about the weather. Democratic primary yesterday for me,

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Speaker 2: this is a terrific story. I've got lots more on

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Speaker 2: it later. Democratic primary for MEA Cuomo looking to make

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Speaker 2: a comeback against a radical nut job. Radical nut job wins.

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Speaker 8: Eight months after launching this campaign.

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Speaker 4: With the vision of a city that every New Yorker

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Speaker 4: could afford.

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Speaker 2: We have one. He's going to run state run grocery

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Speaker 2: shops and put everyone's text up. Finally, another of these

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Speaker 2: what's filthy and you don't know it? Studies micro Consulting

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Speaker 2: the UK found khakis can contain four times more bacteria

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Speaker 2: than a cell phone or a keyboard, because keys are

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Speaker 2: unlikely ever to be cleaned. On average, a lab pound

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Speaker 2: two hundre pretty one different bacteria on cark. He's only

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Speaker 2: sixty six on cell phone screens and sixty eight on

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Speaker 2: the keyboards. What car owners are your dirty, filthy little

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Speaker 2: people misinonus? I knew it. If you'd asked me, I

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Speaker 2: would to go to missonous, Volkswagon and Skoda BMW drivers

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Speaker 2: the cleanest news.

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Speaker 8: Of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety Trump vows to make Spain angry. Trump this morning,

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Speaker 2: Spain's not agreed to the five percent. It's terrible, quote

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Speaker 2: unquote as what Trump said, We're negotiating with Spain on

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Speaker 2: a trade deal, and we're going to make them pay,

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Speaker 2: going to make them paid twice as much. A He's

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Speaker 2: also said he's going to meet a rhum next week.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, How

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Speaker 2: Glasto gates have opened overnight Worthy Farm. Two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: people are going to wade through. What more do you want?

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Speaker 2: Rod Stewart, Neil Young and Cobo Alto. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be huge. Fifteen past six Jmi Welf Andrew Kellerho good morning,

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Speaker 2: Very good morning, Mike. That inflation in Australia yesterday was

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Speaker 2: a very very good one, wasn't it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: It was it was. Hey, my son's at Glastonbury apparently,

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Speaker 9: so I'm going to hear all about it. Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 9: not much happening in New Zealm.

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Speaker 10: Yesterday we had some good trade numbers, just confirming that

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Speaker 10: strong environment for our exports and week inports. So a

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Speaker 10: good trade simplis, yes, But across the Tasman might a

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Speaker 10: good inflation number. It fell by more than expected across

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Speaker 10: the ditch, so equaling the lowest rate in I think

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Speaker 10: almost four years now. This is the monthly figure, it's

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Speaker 10: not the more sort of important quarterly figure. So the

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Speaker 10: monthly figure for May released by Australian Bureau of Statistics,

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Speaker 10: so May two point one percent annual inflation in April

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Speaker 10: that was at two point four, so quite a material

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Speaker 10: shift lower, and inflation well under market expectations of two

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 10: The Reserve Bank of Australia, their preferred measure is what

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Speaker 10: they call the trimmed mean measure, which smooths out volatile items,

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Speaker 10: also fell three and a half year low.

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Speaker 9: That went to two point four from two point eight.

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Speaker 10: So the interesting thing here, Mike is that they're sort

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Speaker 9: Moving in the other direction, so.

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Speaker 10: We're sort of looking at our inflation drifting back up

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Speaker 10: falls and discretionary goods things like garments, recreation, fuel prices

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Speaker 10: were lower that a couple of categories they even saw deflation.

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Speaker 10: Insurance prices are moderating. So it does point to downside

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Speaker 10: risk in forecast estimate forecasts for Q two inflation. And

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Speaker 10: what it does do, Mike, is it opens the door

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Speaker 10: to a higher possibility of an interest rate cut to

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Speaker 10: the RBA cash rate sitting at three point eight five

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Speaker 10: percent bit higher than ours, a number of the bigger

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Speaker 10: banks now forecasting a rate cut in July.

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Speaker 9: And the back the backdrop, I think, Mike, you might

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Speaker 9: have been talking about this a few days ago.

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Speaker 10: The economy over there starting to look a little bit

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Speaker 10: weaker and we're sort of seeing that in demand as well.

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Speaker 10: So they're in inflation falling while ours is sort of

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Speaker 10: creeping up now zero.

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Speaker 2: I still like to think, O, there's New Zealand, But

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Speaker 2: is it a bit far lap pablover or are they

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Speaker 2: still genuinely in New Zealand.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: We could debate this one, couldn't we I mean, it

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Speaker 10: may not be listed on the ENDS Index anymore. It

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Speaker 10: decamped to the ASX back in twenty eighteen. But I

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Speaker 10: still think we very much view Zero as being in

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Speaker 10: New Zealand business and big news out there for them yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Key area of growth was there.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, they dominate in New Zealand and Australia and they've

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Speaker 10: been trying to expand this global expansion, but the US

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Speaker 10: market very key and they've even now got the CEO

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Speaker 10: and other senior leadership PIP actually based up in California.

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Speaker 10: Yesterday they announced their intention to purchase a business called

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Speaker 10: Medio Payments. Now it's a Silicon Valley startup. It provides

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Speaker 10: payment software to small businesses and food, beverage, construction industries.

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Speaker 10: This is all about alerating their growth into the US market.

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Speaker 10: The reason we're talking about is Mike. It is a

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Speaker 10: big deal. This is an audacious move. It is a

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Speaker 10: two and a half billion US two and a half

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Speaker 10: billion dollar transaction. To do this, Zero is conducting a

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Speaker 10: two billion dollar institutional placement of shares over there. This

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Speaker 10: is a very chunky placement and bearing in mind Medio

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Speaker 10: it's only I think the business is only seven years old,

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Speaker 10: so being sold for two and a half billion dollars.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't generate a profit. They're paying a multiple on

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Speaker 10: revenue to buy this. So they've got to place ten

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Speaker 10: and a half million new zero shares out into the

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Speaker 10: institutional market. Adds around seven percent of the shares on issue.

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Speaker 10: They're doing it at a sort of a nine point

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Speaker 10: four percent discount to the closing price in June twenty

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Speaker 10: four that was one hundred nine and lots of New

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Speaker 10: Zealanders will still be zero shareholders. Much that was one

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Speaker 10: hundred and ninety four dollars. They puting them out one

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Speaker 10: hundred and seventy six. There's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 10: focus on this because this is a this is a

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Speaker 10: big move.

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Speaker 9: This is a big move.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully it accelerates their their expansion into the US.

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Speaker 9: Will watch this one with a great deal of.

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Speaker 2: Interest, I hope so to in virgin Well I mentioned

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Speaker 2: briefly yesterday, but I assume they carried on yesterday. I mean,

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Speaker 2: all things considered, timing wise, not bad.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you think about it, You launch your IPO and

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Speaker 10: then all of a sudden their space gets closed in

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Speaker 10: the Middle East and bearing.

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Speaker 9: On these guys. Actually they flight, they fly it into

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Speaker 10: And all of a sudden, it's not the most it's

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Speaker 2: It'd be Chris Bushop is supposed to be on this

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Speaker 2: Thirty year plan, got another thirty year plan as Minister

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Speaker 2: giving the money through Farna Aura. Now what else is

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Speaker 2: These are all excellent questions, aren't they?

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Speaker 2: New movie story of Jeffrey Manchester and as crime Spree.

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Speaker 2: This is the late nineties early two thousands in America.

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Speaker 2: He was known as Roofman because all his crime sprees

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Speaker 2: I was never very good at life.

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Speaker 4: Good warning team.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, don't be scared.

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Speaker 4: Kind of like I was not good at hurting people. Duanne,

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Speaker 2: Are you serious here?

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Speaker 14: A man hunt tonight for an escaped prismer.

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Speaker 4: Fine to see Plice the hide for a few months.

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Speaker 2: He's a very smart individual, super intelligent.

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Speaker 2: Oh are you law enforcement?

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Speaker 2: October tenth is what we're dealing with, big call. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what the government did do well. This fifteen

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Speaker 2: stories You can go around train stations in Auckland. Is

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Speaker 2: this good? If you build it? Will they come more

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Speaker 2: Joe mckennon's and Venice for the Bezos wedding. Not a

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Speaker 2: and live like we're in New York. John Tooki is

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Speaker 2: the professor of Future Environments at aut and.

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Speaker 7: Is with us.

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Speaker 2: John Morning, Good morning. So a couple of stories here

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Speaker 2: won the height and you know whether or not you

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Speaker 2: that now central government seems to be running a city

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Speaker 2: and overriding a local council. Deal with the first one first.

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Speaker 2: If they build it, will they come.

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Speaker 7: I suspect, so certainly it helps. I mean, all you've

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Speaker 2: All right. The other part of the fact Wellington's running

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Speaker 7: Oh, that's a massive political issue for sure, racing certainty.

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Speaker 7: How is it going to impact everybody else in the area,

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Speaker 2: And then we go down the text argument, which I

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Speaker 2: think label into I'm not sure this current lot are

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Speaker 2: More is that where we're hitting.

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Speaker 7: My strong suspicion is that it's likely to go that way.

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Speaker 7: You know that there is no doubt about the fact

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Speaker 2: Do you have any sense of a timeframe on this,

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Speaker 2: because I'm sure we've been talking about infrastructure in thirty

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Speaker 7: Well, let's put this way, just the simple proposition of consent,

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Speaker 2: So don't hold your brith. John appreciate. John Tookey, Professor

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Speaker 2: people in ethnic communities. What that has to do with

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Speaker 2: Ardi Savia running around the field before he heads off

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Speaker 2: to Japan, I don't know, but it is our money

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Speaker 2: and it's not tagged for sport. The same way the

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Speaker 2: four and a half million dollars through m FAT was

443
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Speaker 2: somehow tagged for a sport. When foreign relations is it's all,

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Speaker 2: there's something not right here. Anywayble took to Nichola Willison

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Speaker 2: Chris Bishop about it later six forty.

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Speaker 12: Five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 12: Mind for New Zealand Business in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Joe McKenna, good morning to you, Good morning. Make Have

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Speaker 2: you spotted them? Have you spotted somebody famous?

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Speaker 15: I have been scouring the city today, the city of Venice.

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Speaker 15: I'm in Venice for the Bezos wedding. I was camped

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Speaker 15: outside their hotel. The beautiful Amman Hotel overlooking the Grand

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Speaker 15: Hotel at the Grand Canal, and they showed up as

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Speaker 15: soon as I left, so I missed their arrival. But

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Speaker 15: I have to say that hotel has completely shrouded in

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Speaker 15: secrecy and the security guards are working over time to

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Speaker 15: keep the media far away.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if it's Venus small enough that if I just

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Speaker 2: happen to be there wandering around, I would see something

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Speaker 2: associated with this event or not.

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Speaker 15: Well, so far we've really seen too much. I noticed

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Speaker 15: that the water taxis are fully booked and the gondoliers

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Speaker 15: are very busy on their gondolas, but there are also

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Speaker 15: plenty of regular tourists here, so it hasn't been really

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Speaker 15: evident so far seeing the HOYPELOI dare I say, except

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Speaker 15: for the superyochts. We're seeing those massive superyachts docked in

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Speaker 15: the Judeca Canal in front of Saint Mark's Square, and

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Speaker 15: some of those are just worth millions, hundreds of millions

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Speaker 15: of dollars, and it's quite spectacular to see them.

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Speaker 2: See how much? What do you reckon? What's your observation? See?

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Speaker 2: But the thing that upsets me, I mean, look, I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't know Jeff b souces with a girlfriend from

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Speaker 2: a bar recite. But what I do know is Venice

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Speaker 2: is a tourist town, and they are tourists, and they

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Speaker 2: are spending like the snow tomorrow. And yet we see

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Speaker 2: these pro and they're not only that, but leware gifts,

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Speaker 2: they're giving, donating large amounts of money to various organizations

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Speaker 2: around the Venetian area. And yet we see these protesters.

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Speaker 2: You know, what, who do they represent? How many people

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Speaker 2: do they represent?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know, I don't know whether it's rent

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Speaker 15: a crowd, you know, but some of these protesters did

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Speaker 15: campaign to stop the big cruise ships coming into the canal,

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Speaker 15: and I think that was probably a positive. But they're

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Speaker 15: saying that the little people have been forgotten here, that

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Speaker 15: people are struggling to survive on those lower wages, they

487
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Speaker 15: struggle to get some public housing. The current mayor is Brunaro,

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Speaker 15: is under investigation for corruption. So they're just they're feeling

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Speaker 15: a little bit disconvoluted with some of the deals that

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Speaker 15: have been done to bring this wedding here. Having said that,

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Speaker 15: you're absolutely right, they're bringing hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 15: worth of business into Venice right now and at that

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Speaker 15: luxury level.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about the war, the world and all

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Speaker 2: its woes and worries. NATO five percent? Can Italy do it?

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Speaker 15: Georgia Maloney, the Italian Prime Minister, says it is possible,

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Speaker 15: It is affordable for Italy and there is flexibility to

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Speaker 15: achieve those goals. That means raising defense spending to five

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Speaker 15: percent by twenty thirty five. I noticed that Spain got

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Speaker 15: a bit of a free kick there. They don't have

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Speaker 15: to seem to meet though targets. It wouldn't surprise me

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Speaker 15: if the Italians are going to did all the figures

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Speaker 15: a little bit to prove that they're actually meeting these goals.

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Speaker 15: But for right now, she says it is doable and

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Speaker 15: she's willing to be flexible.

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Speaker 2: Joe, you have a very fine So how long you're there?

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Speaker 2: Put your hanging out? When is actually the wedding? When's

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Speaker 2: the actual wedding day?

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Speaker 15: Nobody is telling us, but we think it might be Friday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're there. It's Wednesday there at the moment,

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Speaker 2: So you're there for another couple of days.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 2: How hot?

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Speaker 15: It's great, very hot, it's very humid, and you know,

515
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Speaker 15: it's very swampy in Venice, as we all know. And

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Speaker 15: at least we have a little bit of a breeze,

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Speaker 15: but I think come July that breeze is going to

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Speaker 15: disappear completely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice to talk, have a good time, James Lay,

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Speaker 2: who is in Venice for us this morning. I've got

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Speaker 2: to get to This New York story is not going

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Speaker 2: to get covered here the way it should. But I

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Speaker 2: was deeply affected by being in San Francisco a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. I've been in San Francisco a number

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Speaker 2: of times and watched it over the years basically disintegrate

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Speaker 2: into what really is a third world backwater. And it's

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Speaker 2: been made to third World backwater by the fact that

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Speaker 2: they elected one again democracy. The fascinating subject of they

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Speaker 2: elect far left radicals who defund the police, allow drugs

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Speaker 2: to go rampant, crime to go rampant, and everyone just

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Speaker 2: basically packs up in leaves town. So I was very

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Speaker 2: sad to read yesterday from the Telegraph in Britain the

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Speaker 2: headline New York is flirting with an economic catastrophe, and

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Speaker 2: it looked as a result of the election yesterday that

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Speaker 2: catastrophe is about to come real, So I'll crunch the numbers.

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Speaker 2: But in a moment ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities News.

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Speaker 2: Togstad be Zoran Mandami is his name. And yesterday they

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Speaker 2: had the primary for the Democratic side of the equation

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Speaker 2: for the New York meryoral race. Cuomo, former governor Crooked,

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Speaker 2: was making a comeback. He lost forty four to thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Just to explain briefly, they rank candidates the eleven of them.

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Speaker 2: You get to rank your top five in the first

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Speaker 2: round forty four to thirty six. He lost. He conceded defeat.

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Speaker 2: They will now over the next week count the rest.

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Speaker 2: In other words, three four and five, distribute those votes

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Speaker 2: around the place. Cuomo will still have lost. This guy's won.

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Speaker 2: Who is this guy? Well, extra two percent income tax

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Speaker 2: on anyone earning more than a million bucks. He's doubling

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Speaker 2: down on rent controls that are already very tight, raises

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Speaker 2: the minimum wage, pushes up the city's top rate of

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Speaker 2: the corporate tax, the top federal tax from seven point

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Speaker 2: twenty five to eleven point five percent. Is going to

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Speaker 2: launch government run grocery shops, introduce free childcare across the city.

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Speaker 2: He is from not just the left, but the left

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Speaker 2: of the left of the left. He was endorsed by

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Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, Letitia James. She's a very large black woman

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Speaker 2: who's the attorney general, who was after Trump or Carsio

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Speaker 2: Cortez loves are cannot get enough of this guy. So

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Speaker 2: he looks to be because New York's democratic city, the

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Speaker 2: winner of a race that's going to be held in November.

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Speaker 2: The only saving grace could be that Cuomo may probably

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Speaker 2: won't but may try to run as an independent. So

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Speaker 2: New York will be run by a radical nut job.

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Speaker 2: And you look to Portland, you look to San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: He might be about to watch a lot of business

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Speaker 2: leave New York. He might be about to watch a

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Speaker 2: lot of New Yorkers continue to leave New York and

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Speaker 2: head to Florida. He might be about to ruin one

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Speaker 2: of the great cities of the world. Hence, you should

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Speaker 2: read the piece yesterday from the Telegraph that it's on

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Speaker 2: the edge New York of a financial catastrophe. But it

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Speaker 2: is democracy. And they had the opportunity to vote for

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Speaker 2: a radical nut job yesterday, and they blind up and

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Speaker 2: they did so five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 4: Well, the inns are the outs. It's the bizz with

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Speaker 4: business fiber. Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now do some good news when New Zealand andk or

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Speaker 2: reasonably good news. They've had to look around the directors

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Speaker 2: of this country. They think our economic green shoots are real.

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Speaker 2: This is the Institute of Director's Pulse Check survey. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: hundred directors, so over half fifty five say they're optimistic

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Speaker 2: about the economy and the recovery is on saying I'm

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Speaker 2: very pleased to hear that, because there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of question marks around this. At the moment, confidence is

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Speaker 2: tempered to a degree. Only thirty percent of boards have

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Speaker 2: budgeted for an improved financial performance this year. Thirty seven

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Speaker 2: percent expected a similar result of last year. Twenty three

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Speaker 2: percent say their financial position would get worse. Government impact.

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Speaker 2: What do they make of the government impact on the economy?

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Speaker 2: Majority are on the fence half forty nine percent Government's

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Speaker 2: legislative program neutral, thirty five percent say it will help

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Speaker 2: the economy, sixteen percent say it's having a nevigat and

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Speaker 2: negative effect. Who will it help the most primary sector?

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Speaker 2: Of course, everyone loves a farmer fire. I mean they're booming.

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent say the primary sector will continue to be

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Speaker 2: the driver of economic recovery. The other thirty percent, so

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Speaker 2: manufacturing in urban industries will be. So that's that's your

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Speaker 2: economy check or economic check. This morning, right after seven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: we will be dealing with a couple of things Farner

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Speaker 2: Aura and there's business of electioneering and paying Tama Eaty

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Speaker 2: to sit there for thirty minutes and convince you to

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Speaker 2: go on the Mari roll once again. Farna Aura is

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Speaker 2: supposed to be uplifting the Mari community. And that's before

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Speaker 2: we get to the developing scandal, which is Farna Aura,

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Speaker 2: through one of their agencies as funding professional rugby. How

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Speaker 2: that uplifts an impoverished community. I've got no idea, but

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Speaker 2: nevertheless you and I are payingful this nonsense. So we'll

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Speaker 2: deal with that. Chris Bushop will talk to him in

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Speaker 2: part about that because he used to be the Minister

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Speaker 2: of Sport. James May is back on the program and

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Speaker 2: we were right when we left you yesterday. I said,

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Speaker 2: I am how long have been since James May was

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Speaker 2: on the program, And I said two to three years?

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Speaker 2: And as Glenn quite rightly pointed out that almost certainly

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Speaker 2: means it was six, because that's how my mind works.

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Speaker 2: And as it turns out, it was six, it was

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. So we'll well overed you for a catch up.

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Speaker 2: James May with us after eight o'clock. News is next

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Speaker 2: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 4: News, Opinion and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The mic hosting breakfast were the Defender Doctor the most

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Speaker 1: Powerful Defender ever made, and News togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Tip and past seven. So here we go again. The

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister's written this morning another letter to the supermarket's

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Speaker 2: food stuff says plead guilty as I'm sure you're aware

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Speaker 2: of a couple of breaches of inaccurate pricing. Warlworths is

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Speaker 2: facing apparently similar charges. Nicola Willis's with us a very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you. Good morning, I you the Finance

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Speaker 2: minister who cried wolf.

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Speaker 13: No. I have the same basic expectation that every keyw

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Speaker 13: shopper has, which is some pretty basic things you have

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Speaker 13: to do under the law as a retailer. One is

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Speaker 13: make sure that the prices that you say on the

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Speaker 13: shelf are the prices that pay at the till. Our

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Speaker 13: supermarkets are some of the most sophisticated, well funded retailers

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Speaker 13: that there are. And the fact that in twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: five they are pleading guilty in the case of some

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Speaker 13: food stuff's North Island pack and saves to not meeting

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Speaker 13: there's pricing obligations under the Fair Trading Act. To me

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Speaker 13: just isn't good enough. And I shouldn't have to point

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Speaker 13: that out marketing, No, you should. I shouldn't be having

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Speaker 13: to write a letter to say, come on, guys, sort

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Speaker 13: it out.

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Speaker 2: Are you leveraging this? I mean, look, I'm not defending

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Speaker 2: the supermarkets, but I mean these are It's a very

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Speaker 2: complex business pricing a million different products. It doesn't excuse it,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, this is not your main point.

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Speaker 2: Your main point is competition in the supermarket area. Are

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Speaker 2: you leveraging this thing for your own political gain?

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Speaker 13: The reason I am doing this is because the supermarkets

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Speaker 13: have said to me again and again, and they've said

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Speaker 13: publicly that they do everything they can to be good

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Speaker 13: providers of a supermarket service. So when I see that

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Speaker 13: it doesn't look like that, I think I should call

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Speaker 13: it out because actually my responsibility under the Grocery Act

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Speaker 13: is to make sure that they're doing all of the

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Speaker 13: right things you'd expect of a competitive player and a

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Speaker 13: well functioning market. Now this to me doesn't look right,

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Speaker 13: and so I am calling it out. And I think

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Speaker 13: that you know, sunlight is great disinfectant, which is let's

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Speaker 13: talk about it. They can explain it. They can come

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Speaker 13: on your show and tell you why it's fine that

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Speaker 13: someone is paying a different price than they were told

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Speaker 13: they were going to pay. But I've said to them, look,

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Speaker 13: tell me what you're doing to sort it out. Sort

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Speaker 13: it out quickly. And by the way, the fines under

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Speaker 13: the Fear Trading Act in New Zealand are a lot

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Speaker 13: lower than they are in Australia, and I've been advised

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Speaker 13: that it can be quite hard to do a prosecution

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Speaker 13: under our future Act. So it's only sensible that I

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Speaker 13: look at that and say, well, do we need to

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Speaker 13: lift the fines to be more like other countries? Do

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Speaker 13: we need to make it easier to prosecute you for

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Speaker 13: breaches of them?

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Speaker 2: But it's these regulatory leaders you talk of in the letter.

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Speaker 2: You talk a lot of threats. Do you threaten too

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Speaker 2: much and act not enough?

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Speaker 13: No, It's been my experience in life that when you

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Speaker 13: give people an opportunity to fix things themselves before you

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Speaker 13: force them to do it, when they've got good intent,

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Speaker 13: they take that opportunity. And in this case, the surfermarkets

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Speaker 13: have set again and again, look, we've got good intent,

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Speaker 13: we're trying to do the right things. Don't come at

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Speaker 13: us with the red tape. And I said, okay, well

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Speaker 13: I'll meet you where you are and i will take

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Speaker 13: that approach. And so in this case, I've set out

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Speaker 13: my concerns very clearly. I've just said basic things, Mike.

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Speaker 13: I've said, look, make sure that you've got actually modern

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Speaker 13: technology in your shops so that there aren't these pricing discrepancies.

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Speaker 13: Make sure you've got a proper refund policy and advertise

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Speaker 13: it now and will worth case, the policy is meant

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Speaker 13: to be if you get overcharged, not only do you

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Speaker 13: get a refund, but you get to keep whatever it

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Speaker 13: you want i'ver charged for. Well, advertise that policy and

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Speaker 13: everyone should have that policy. And then a pretty basic thing,

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Speaker 13: which is do some staff training so that if someone

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Speaker 13: makes a complaint about having been overcharged, that there is

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Speaker 13: actually a correction for that overcharging for everyone else who

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Speaker 13: might be impacted, not just the individual right, simple stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is other matters. Are you aware of the

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Speaker 2: second leg of the farner or a scandal around professional

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Speaker 2: rugby this morning?

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Speaker 13: Look, I have only briefly read that piece this morning.

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Speaker 13: I have not been read on it. But at first blush,

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Speaker 13: there seem to be two things to me. One, sport

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Speaker 13: in New Zealand under the last government chose to give

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Speaker 13: that entity some loans. I don't know much about that.

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Speaker 13: But then second, it appears that the funer or a

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Speaker 13: commissioning agency has been using its funds to sponsor this

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Speaker 13: rugby team. And for me, same question I have of

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Speaker 13: every social service provider what is the impact for the

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Speaker 13: people whose lives that money is meant to proof?

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Speaker 2: Why are they allowed to do it?

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Speaker 13: Well, as I say, I have literally read that piece

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Speaker 13: this morning in real time, and I think you're asking

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Speaker 13: a very good question.

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Speaker 2: Why is Mary Pecker Rokawa Take still in work? And

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Speaker 2: this goes back to yesterday's scandal she's also involved with

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Speaker 2: with tama et Mari. Issues don't come to the fore

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Speaker 2: and mainstream political parties. Hence we need to spend more

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Speaker 2: of our taxpayers money convincing people to be on the

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Speaker 2: Maori roll. How does she hold a job down like that?

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Speaker 13: Well, in terms of yesterday's revelations, you'll be aware that

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Speaker 13: the Minister forefuno Aura has asked immediately for an investigation

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Speaker 13: to happen into that, and so well, I'll await ats findings.

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Speaker 2: Do we need an investigation into sponsoring professional rugby teams?

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Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 13: Look suddenly, it was my plan to get on the

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Speaker 13: phone to come up Attaka this morning and say, right,

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Speaker 13: tell me about this.

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Speaker 2: Is he asleep at the wheel?

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Speaker 13: No he is not. Actually, he's made pretty significant changes

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Speaker 13: to farno Ura which I think are going to strengthen

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Speaker 13: that program considerably, essentially putting much more of an emphasis

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Speaker 13: on demonstrating the outcomes that occur as a result of

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Speaker 13: those contracts in ways that are more evidence and data.

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Speaker 2: Basically, could we just join some dots for now, though

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Speaker 2: even though you've just read the story, I only just

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Speaker 2: read it this morning as well, that the chances of

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Speaker 2: the Pacific community being materially, medically, financially or in any

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Speaker 2: other way uplifted by the sponsorship of Moana Pacifica is zero.

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Speaker 2: We know it's zero, and yet they spent millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars on it.

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Speaker 13: Well, I'm sure that there are lots of people who

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Speaker 13: love Wana pacifica. It's possible it inspires some people to

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Speaker 13: play rugby and playing sport and doing stuff is healthy.

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Speaker 13: But I want to see Farno or a money resulting

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Speaker 13: in people in jobs, attending school, getting training, not ending

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Speaker 13: up in court, getting their kids immunised, having less family violence,

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Speaker 13: all of the things we know cost individuals, families in society.

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Speaker 2: But here's your problem, Yes they are, here's your problem politically.

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Speaker 2: You said you get rid of this race based nonsense

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Speaker 2: and you haven't. You're a year and a half and

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Speaker 2: we're still uncovering this. This is a scandal.

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Speaker 13: Well, Mike, here's the thing. Here is an organization which

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Speaker 13: in that article it is revealed has been receiving funds

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Speaker 13: and we found out about how they are using those funds.

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Speaker 13: This is a few steps removed immediately from the minister.

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Speaker 13: There is now information needs to be dealt with properly.

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Speaker 13: But as the thing is, we're eighteen months in. We

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Speaker 13: haven't turned every rock over yet, and I guarantee you

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Speaker 13: there is going to be more stuff like this because

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Speaker 13: the last lot we're absolutely spraying the money hose around

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Speaker 13: Nicola at some point.

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Speaker 2: My patient, Look, my patient's running is starting to run

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Speaker 2: thin on this this whole let's blame the previous government

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Speaker 2: is wearing thin. You've had a year and a half.

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Speaker 2: There are millions of dollars at stake in a country

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Speaker 2: that has no money, and this is this is a joke,

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Speaker 2: and you're doing the old well the laws, government fire

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Speaker 2: hose line. How about you own some of this and

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Speaker 2: do something about it.

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Speaker 13: Well, if this was a direct decision by a government agency,

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Speaker 13: I take your point. Actually this is a step removed.

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Speaker 13: I read about it in the paper today. Test us,

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Speaker 13: Mike on how we react to it and what the

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Speaker 13: next steps are we've just found out today.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time. Nichola willis so what I don't

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Speaker 2: know what hat she was wearing on that senior government

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Speaker 2: minister in charge of wasting our money. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B James May for catch up after right on the

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Speaker 2: program eighteen past seven. Now, the government has more trouble

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Speaker 2: around the race issues, as you've just heard a moment ago,

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Speaker 2: not only the rugby this morning, but yesterday it was

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Speaker 2: a business Afarner, or of the Marii Roll. Graham Edgeler

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Speaker 2: is a constitutional law expert and is with us Graham morning.

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Speaker 16: To you, good morning.

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Speaker 2: We've got some good clear law around this or not really?

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Speaker 16: Well, yes and no, the law isn't really complicated about this.

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Speaker 8: The question is.

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Speaker 16: What money actually is this. This is the funnel or

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Speaker 16: commissioning agency, which is private. It's not part of the government,

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Speaker 16: and so can spend its own money how it likes.

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Speaker 16: The question is is it spending its own money? And

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Speaker 16: that's the question we don't have the answer to.

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Speaker 2: Will we get to the bottom of that. Do you

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Speaker 2: think can public money become private money or whatever?

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Speaker 8: Maybe?

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Speaker 16: Possibly, depending they've got a contract with various government agencies

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Speaker 16: to provide certain things, and they've got to use their

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Speaker 16: money for those things and not use it for certain things.

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Speaker 16: I don't know what those contracts say, but hopefully that's

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Speaker 16: what Time of Partaker is looking into. You know what

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Speaker 16: money is actually used here? Because if the answer is well,

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Speaker 16: this private organization is using its own money, you know,

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Speaker 16: to fund this, well, if anyone's allowed.

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Speaker 2: To do that, sure, exactly, But if it's public money.

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Speaker 2: Rokaua Tite argues that Marii issues are not raised or

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Speaker 2: come to the fore in a major party. Therefore you

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Speaker 2: should be on the political role of the man party.

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Speaker 2: That's electioneering, isn't it? No trying to convince somebody, it's

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Speaker 2: trying to convince somebody in the electoral process. Is not electioneering.

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Speaker 7: Or it is?

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Speaker 16: But do you're allowed to action there? You know, people

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Speaker 16: spend money, vote for me, vote for them, don't vote

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Speaker 16: for them all the time.

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Speaker 2: So what you're arguing is because they're private, they can

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Speaker 2: do it. If if they were a public enterity with

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Speaker 2: public money. Government departments can't electioneer.

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Speaker 16: Correct, And so the question is whose money is this

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Speaker 16: and what agreements did they have? You know, we're using

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Speaker 16: this money to fund your vaccines or we're using this

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Speaker 16: money to fund an enrollment drive. You know, because the

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Speaker 16: Maori option thing closes with nearly three months until the

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Speaker 16: local elections, and so at that point you can't switch

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Speaker 16: role anymore. And so when that happens that the government,

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Speaker 16: the Electoral Comission's got something going on. Change your role

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Speaker 16: by ten July I think it is three months before

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Speaker 16: the election.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we will find out within the contracts. The

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Speaker 2: detail will be in the contracts. Appreciate your expertise as always,

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Speaker 2: Graham Mitcheler, who's constitutional law expert. That's before we come

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Speaker 2: to another problem that was raised this week by the

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Speaker 2: Retirement Commissioner. More shortly seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: posed this week by the Retirement Commissioner as to whether

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Speaker 2: the people who have money in the bank should get

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Speaker 2: the pension. Now, the first part that is wrong with

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Speaker 2: that is I thought we'd decided many a decade ago,

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Speaker 2: rightly or wrongly, super is an entitlement. It's trigger rightly

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Speaker 2: or wrongly is age. Therefore, the other criteria that you

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Speaker 2: might like to at a later stage add to the equation,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, height, weight, job, brain power, or savings

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Speaker 2: are null and void because age is what triggers it.

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Speaker 2: So are we changing that? Are we all of a

870
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: sudden because that's the inference in the question. The inference

871
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: is also the sneering socialist bent that some people have

872
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: around success. Well, don't be too successful, and that's what

873
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: savings generally are. You had a plan, you worked hard,

874
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: you put a few dollars aside. Interestingly, the numbers are depressing.

875
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: This is where the question comes from. There are three

876
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: or thirty three thousand who were in each year between

877
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: one hundred and two hundred thousand dollars a year, nine

878
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: more than two hundred thousand. Now that's actually not a

879
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: lot of people. It shows you how poorly paid we

880
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: are in this country, how bad at saving we are,

881
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: how expensive life is. To stop your saving in the

882
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: first place. Whole bunch of stuff leads us to not

883
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: being a very well off sort of country. Personally, I've

884
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: said this many many times. I'm not fast to do

885
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: whatever you want with superannuation. I didn't join KEYI saver.

886
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm not relying on a pension. Why Because when I

887
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: started working nineteen eighty two it was very well established

888
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: even then that the pension may or may not be

889
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: around at all. So why I take the risk in

890
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: a nineteen eighty two as I was on the minimum wage,

891
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: as I basically worked out, I had forty fivesh years

892
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: to get my act together and do something about it.

893
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: The problem with keeping on asking these questions is it

894
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: messes with people and their intentions. Government has been bad

895
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: enough already with their constant changing of the rules and

896
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: their contributions. Last thing we need is thought bubbles on

897
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: what should be really a long term leave it alone,

898
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: get out of the way understanding among us all that

899
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: the pension is our society's recognition of a life's work.

900
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Change the age if you want, but penalizing success is

901
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: the opposite of what we want to actually promote.

902
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 8: Mike.

903
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: As a reminder, we still have not heard any outcome

904
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: on the Manaea Mariah investigation. Michael. We got news on

905
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: that a couple of weeks ago, was it two or

906
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: three weeks ago? That's gone to the Serious Fraud Office.

907
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: So we await that one with a great deal of interest. Mike,

908
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: your way off the mark with Nichola. They're uncovering and

909
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: dealing with this. It doesn't all come out and the like,

910
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: well they're not this did you not hear the interview?

911
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 2: They're not uncovering any of it. The media, God bless

912
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: Kate McNamara yet again for the Herald, and she worked

913
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Speaker 2: with Liam Napier on this one. But the Herald uncovered this.

914
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: The government didn't uncover any of it. And as you heard,

915
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 2: from Nikola Willis. A moment ago it was breaking news

916
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: to her her argument that they're one step removed. I'm

917
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: not buying either. Tama Potarker, who seems a likable bloke

918
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: I think, is increasingly being caught out in the whole.

919
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: What when did that start? I need an investigation kind

920
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: of fashion. So yesterday's bad enough. You cannot tell me

921
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: that's not electioneering. And if there's any government money involved

922
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: in that, heads need to roll. And I think, as

923
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: I've said earlier on the program, I think the Moana

924
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: pacifica thing is actually even worse because farner Or at

925
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Speaker 2: its core, is designed to uplift the impoverished, and sponsoring

926
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: a rugby team to the tune of millions does not

927
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: and cannot do that anyway. Chris Bishop was the Minister

928
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: of Sport and he's with us after the News, which

929
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Speaker 2: is next James May, of course after eight as well.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the Mic

931
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Speaker 1: Hosking Break Bend with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

932
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933
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Speaker 2: News Togsdad be Morning, So another crack at the big

934
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: picture infrastructure this morning from the Infrastructure Commission, who's latest

935
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: report tells us we spend too much for very little return.

936
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Speaker 2: This is a thirty year draft plan. Chris Bishop, Infrastructure

937
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Speaker 2: Ministers with us, good morning, Good morning. The comments yesterday

938
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Speaker 2: about how useless we are, do you reckon in your

939
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: capacity here and now you can actually move the needle?

940
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Speaker 17: Yes, I do, and I'm intending to do that over

941
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Speaker 17: the next eighteen months. In fact, we've done quite a

942
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Speaker 17: lot already to improve the system, but there's a long

943
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 17: way to go. As you said, it's a thirty year problem.

944
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 17: We're in the top ten percent for spend. Everyone says

945
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 17: we don't spend enough. We actually spend a truckload on

946
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 17: infrastructure across local and central government. We get very bad

947
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 17: value for money from that spind We're in the bottom

948
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 17: teen percent for value for money in the OECD.

949
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Speaker 7: So we've got to improve.

950
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: So the trams government thing that you talked about yesterday

951
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: as well, do you think that's real that someone's going

952
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: to pick up and run with your idea? So it's

953
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: not your idea, it's everyone's idea. Do you think that's

954
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: real or altruistic?

955
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Speaker 10: No?

956
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 7: I think we can do it.

957
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 17: And one of the things I talked about yesterday was

958
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 17: moving away from the sort of rhetoric that we needed

959
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 17: by partisan pipeline. We do need that, but I pointed

960
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 17: out at the summer yesterday, and I pointed out all

961
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 17: the next the things we're going to start in the

962
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 17: next six months.

963
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 7: If you look at the list, I.

964
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 17: Don't reckon any political party in Parliament would disagree with

965
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 17: anything that one spending money on. You've got Maling, You've

966
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 17: got Otechi to north of them starting, You've got a

967
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 17: couple of government capital projects starting. Everyone's going to agree

968
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 17: on that.

969
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 7: The issue is not that.

970
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Speaker 17: The issue is reck So the issue is let me.

971
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Speaker 2: Just counter it for one moment, and I don't want to,

972
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: but I have to. They will say I want some

973
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: trains and some trolleys and some cycle lanes and I'll

974
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: leg the money for that. And once I'd love to

975
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: build your road, but now that I've got all that stuff,

976
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: I can't afford your road. And that's how it's going

977
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: to unfold, isn't it.

978
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 7: I reckon.

979
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 17: There'll be a bit of debate between the Greens and

980
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 17: National and things like that, and labor on on things

981
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 17: like cycle ways. Right, so national government is never going

982
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 17: to be as into cycle ways as a green government is,

983
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 17: for example. So but eighty ninety percent of the part

984
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 17: one week can agree on. What we do need to

985
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 17: agree on are things that the people have been saying

986
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 17: for thirty years we need to do. Focus on a

987
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 17: set maintenance. We have neglected that that fl We have

988
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 17: rotten hospitals, we've got mold in our schools. You know,

989
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 17: police station's falling apart around the country because we don't

990
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 17: look after what we've already built. So there's the whole

991
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 17: range of recommendations in there around that. I'll tell you

992
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 17: one thing that shocked me that I learned half of

993
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 17: central government capital intensive agencies do not have an asset register.

994
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 17: What I mean by that is they don't even know

995
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 17: what they own and they don't know what the state

996
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 17: of what they own is. Now it's ridiculous when you

997
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 17: think about it, because we say the local government and

998
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 17: they get a bad rap. But we say to local government,

999
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 17: this is legislated. You've got to do a ten year

1000
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 17: capital plan, you've got to do a long term asset

1001
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 17: maintenance plan, and there are some performance standards you've got

1002
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 17: to meet. We don't even do this, do that for

1003
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 17: ourselves in central government.

1004
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 7: So things like that. It's got to change.

1005
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: Tell you what is changing, and congratulations this fifteen stories

1006
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: in Auckland. That's sort of overriding councils. Get them out

1007
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: of the way, get on with this stuff. But is

1008
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: someone wanting to live on floor thirteen next to a

1009
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 2: railway station? If you build it, will they come?

1010
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 17: Absolutely, there's a huge demand out there. It's not going

1011
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 17: to happen straight away like it's you know, we're going

1012
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 17: to make the council do it, and they'll do it

1013
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 17: by October, which is good progress by the way, But

1014
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 17: it's not like, you know, next next week or something,

1015
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 17: there's going to be like a bigger apartment by Kingsland

1016
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 17: train station. But over the next three, five, ten years,

1017
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 17: this is the way people want to live, or at

1018
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 17: least the way some people want to live, right. Some

1019
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 17: people want to live in a single story house in

1020
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 17: the suburbs. That's all good, We need more houses like that.

1021
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 17: Some people want to live in a terrace house, that's fine.

1022
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 17: Some people, young people, older couples, the kids have moved out.

1023
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 17: They just want a nice apartment by a train station.

1024
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 17: And here's the thing. We're building this five billion dollars

1025
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 17: Sea rail Link. It's going to be rapid transit for Auckland.

1026
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 17: But Kingsland Train station is going to have trains running

1027
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 17: through it every five minutes at peak. It's going to

1028
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 17: be phenomenal. People are going to want to live near

1029
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 17: the station, get a coffee on the way of the train.

1030
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: Chris, you said you've taken the pills. Have you seen

1031
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: the trains in Auckland lately? They don't run. There are

1032
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: no trains in Auckland. They're permanently not on.

1033
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 9: Well.

1034
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 17: The part of the reason for that is that they're

1035
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 17: getting ready for city rail links. So I'm not pretending

1036
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 17: it's going to be perfect right away from day one,

1037
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 17: but there's a huge investment going into upgrading the lines

1038
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 17: and the train so we can get ready for it.

1039
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: Right, are you ready for this morning scandal?

1040
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: Hit me?

1041
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: Hit me with that far No Aura, right, farner Aura

1042
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: give money to pacifica Medical association group. What do they

1043
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: do with that money? Chris, I'm sure you to tell

1044
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: me they fund Moana Pacifica the rugby team. Now I'll

1045
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: ask you this in your capacity as Minister formerly of

1046
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 2: Minister of Sport. What the hell is an agency that's

1047
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: supposed to uplift the community. Firstly, it's a race based funding,

1048
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: which you said you'd stop. Why are they funding professional sport?

1049
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a complex. Is this funding picture a because well,

1050
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 17: because you've got fun of war, that's the fun of war.

1051
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 17: Groups do all sorts of different things and sometimes it's

1052
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 17: quite difficult to untangle the contracts at a delivery from

1053
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 17: everything house. So is it I'm with you.

1054
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: Well, well, you're in charge of Chris, You're the government

1055
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: who is going to fix all of this a year

1056
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: and a half and why are we discovering this this morning.

1057
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 17: I'm not a judge that, but I know that my

1058
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 17: colleagues are looking at it because I agree with you

1059
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 17: in principle, and I'm sure they are looking at it.

1060
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: But as Minister of Sport, which you were, did it

1061
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: not bother you or did you not know that professional

1062
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: rugby teams in a country with no money were being

1063
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: funded by an agency that's supposed to on a race

1064
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: based way it will process uplift their community.

1065
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 7: Yeah? I found it strange.

1066
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: Well what did you do it about it?

1067
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 17: Well, as I say, there are contracts in place, and

1068
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 17: as I say, disentangling all of the various different funding

1069
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Speaker 17: streams that go into final or from some of the

1070
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 17: money that goes out the door. As we've discovered in

1071
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Speaker 17: other areas I'm thinking of with the other issues that

1072
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Speaker 17: we've cropped up. Is not as easy as it sounds.

1073
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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, Chris Bishop, and you got caught

1074
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Speaker 2: there slightly.

1075
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Speaker 13: Now.

1076
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Speaker 2: The other aspect of this is the charity aspect. So

1077
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: the company or the business or the charity specific and

1078
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Speaker 2: medical association group is a charity, so they don't are

1079
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: they charity? When you fund a professional rugby team, are

1080
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: you a charity still? And if that rugby team didn't

1081
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: exist without your funding, are you still a charity? Dez,

1082
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions on this. Morney. Mics of

1083
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: the Tniger continues with Maray getting more and more money

1084
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: to do well. It's not just Mary' specifica to do

1085
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: what they want. When is it going to stop? Not

1086
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: a bad question, it's I think, as you heard Chris say,

1087
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: it's small difficult than you think. Seventeen to eight.

1088
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1089
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: by the News Talks.

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Speaker 8: It'd be.

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00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: Part of the problem, Mike, is the public servants are

1092
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: ignoring directives. I've said that, Judith. I think you're right.

1093
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: I've said this on the program. I think that's increasingly

1094
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 2: what it is now. You can, partially to a degree,

1095
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: argue that Farna Ora is one step removed. They're not

1096
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: directly a government department. They are funded by the state,

1097
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: but they're contracted to do certain things. And you've got

1098
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: to ask yourself the question also the broader question. The

1099
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 2: reason this is a story this morning, apart from the funny,

1100
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: is specific a medical association their contract has been stopped.

1101
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: Another version of pacifica medical association is the Wipe Perrera Trust,

1102
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: the famous Wipeerrera trusts head by John Tammahirie. Of course

1103
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: they've lost their contract as well. I believe he's taking

1104
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: them court. I don't know how you take the government

1105
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: to court over a contract that you you know, when

1106
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 2: you've got the money, you give it to whoever you want.

1107
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: But you've got that aspect of it as well. Without

1108
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: digging in even deeper hole. I'm getting a lot of

1109
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: emails and I can't work out whether this is just

1110
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: a sort of a very minor, broad based conspiracy by

1111
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: a few angsty people who spend a lot of time

1112
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: on the email and send me far too much correspondence.

1113
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: But section one two seven has that triggered. You just

1114
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: listen to this section one to section one two seven.

1115
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: This is education. We raised it very briefly on the

1116
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: program the other day. This is race based as well,

1117
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: and it's part of the it's actually officially the Education

1118
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: and Training Amendment Bill number two, which is in front

1119
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: of a select committee at the moment. The claim from

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00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: the many, many, many correspondents I get is that this

1121
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: is race based. It's tatyty, it's the Treaty of WAYTANGI.

1122
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: It's what we're teaching kids in school, and you're accusing

1123
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: Erica Stanford. The latest email this morning, the most woke

1124
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: while everyone was distracted. The National's wocist minister, Erica Stanford,

1125
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 2: where you get that from, I don't know, quietly introduced

1126
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: a radical rewrite of our school governance laws and now

1127
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: it has been pushed to a select committee with barely

1128
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: a whisper of public attention. Education and Training Amendment Bill

1129
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: number two. Changes buried within it rewritten section one two

1130
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 2: seven represent one of the boldest attempts yet to enrich

1131
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: or entrench rather co governance and identity politics in the classroom. Now.

1132
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: We went to Stanford's office the other day and they

1133
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: said that's not true. I've read their explanation. If I

1134
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: can be honest, their explanation if I'm being generous kind

1135
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: of makes sense. If I'm being conspiratorial doesn't. So we'll

1136
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: probably need to get her on the program tomorrow to

1137
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: get some clarification because there's clearly a frassant building up

1138
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: in the emailing community of this country that will need

1139
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: to address. H I'm worn out. Can I just say

1140
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: that this morning, just like days like this, pissed me off,

1141
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: no end, not badly, but I'm just sick of this

1142
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: country being the waiters. So I need to talk about wine.

1143
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: And if I had some, i'd drink it at the

1144
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 2: same time, but I don't, so at least I can

1145
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: talk about it next ten to way.

1146
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: The News Talks d be on Mike Hosking, Breakfast with

1147
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: the Defender, Octurn News Talks Dead b.

1148
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: So if you're into wine and into awards, then the ones

1149
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: you want are the Decanta World Wine Awards, of course,

1150
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: and Craigie Range and the Martin Broupin and Wire has

1151
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: taken home Best in Show that would put it in

1152
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: the top zero zero point three percentable wines in the world.

1153
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: Now Ben Times is the cheap wine maker at Craggi

1154
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: Range and as well, there's been very good morning.

1155
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 11: Good morning Mike, thanks for having me on.

1156
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Not at all and can warmers. Congratulations. Now, without getting

1157
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: into the weeds too much, I know you make a

1158
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: number of pen and wars. Is this your Tamuna Road

1159
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 2: pen and noir? And is it your Tamuna Road arrowha

1160
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: pen and wah.

1161
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 11: No, this is actually a martin broopin and wa which

1162
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 11: is actually an entry level It's our first pin and

1163
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 11: why to be bottled out of twenty two twenty twenty

1164
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 11: four vintage. So yeah, it's an incredible achievement.

1165
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: Does it taste like something that would win when you

1166
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: sent it off?

1167
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, we knew there was something pretty special coming

1168
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 11: out of the twenty twenty four vintage. Yeah, it just

1169
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 11: shows this unique kind of provenance to Martinborough. But it's

1170
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 11: ultimately yeah, just delicious. So yeah, we knew we had

1171
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 11: something pretty cool there.

1172
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: Twenty four seemed to be a good vintage around the

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00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: whole country. Is that fair or you're not across the

1174
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: whole country.

1175
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, no, it was a great vintage throughout New Zealand.

1176
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 11: Fortunately we had a pretty dry spell throughout the summer

1177
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 11: in autumn, so got like a really long hangtime to

1178
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 11: develop lots of concentration. So yet the stunner for New Zealand,

1179
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 11: which is I think evidence in those you know, three

1180
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 11: hundred and three medals that were awarded to New Zealand.

1181
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 11: So yeah, it's a great achievement for the country.

1182
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: When you're tasting the peanut, it's somewhere like those awards

1183
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: given it. I mean twenty twenty four Would you drink

1184
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: a twenty oh you put it away for a year

1185
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: or two? Can you taste what are they tasting? What

1186
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: can be or what it is?

1187
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 11: It's a mixture of both actually, So they do like

1188
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 11: to see there's some age worthiness and the longevity in

1189
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 11: these wines, but ultimately it has to be delicious on

1190
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 11: the day of tasting. And yeah, with this Peno and mine,

1191
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 11: like we want that to be approachable and ready to

1192
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 11: drink from when it's released, which is.

1193
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: Now so from a Hawk's Bay company, which is what

1194
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: you are. How much of your wine's made out of

1195
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: the region out of the Bay.

1196
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 11: Well, actually it's about or less than fifty percent. So

1197
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 11: most of our identity is down in Marsborough, now, is

1198
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 11: that's where our Cevion Blanc comes from and also noir.

1199
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 11: So yeah, it's a huge part.

1200
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: Of our martink.

1201
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 7: Yes, it's fantastic.

1202
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, a bit of a pudding difference.

1203
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see. My problem is I'm a massive

1204
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: wine fan, Ben, but I don't drink white wine at all.

1205
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 11: And oh, we've got to give you a bottle, mate.

1206
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't want a bottle. I'm just thinking that

1207
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: Martin bro as a profiles. I mean, so the last

1208
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: time I drank white wine was I drink of obviously

1209
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: Marlborough serving on blank and I never like the Hawk's

1210
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: Bay serving on what tastes completely different? What does Martin

1211
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: but taste like in comparison to those two.

1212
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's actually it's actually a lot cooler than than

1213
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 11: Marlborough despite being further north. But it's not as like

1214
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 11: obvious as sort of grassy or capsican or sort of

1215
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 11: herbal is probably the two. And it's actually more like

1216
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 11: when it's greener, it's actually more more greener, citrus, more

1217
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 11: that sort of Yuzu spectrum, so it's really fresh and

1218
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 11: really salty. So yeah, it's got thicker skin from more

1219
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 11: wind there as well. So yeah, it's quite quite a

1220
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 11: salivating sevyon blanc. Because it's nice as opposed to something

1221
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 11: quite obvious.

1222
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Good description. People will think you're a wine maker the

1223
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: peen and noile that you've won with. Do you do

1224
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: you have the product because presumably people are going to

1225
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: want to prome all over the world.

1226
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah we do. It's it's available in most good

1227
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 11: wine stores throughout New Zealand and it's actually one that

1228
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 11: we do stock in some supermarkets too, so it's it's

1229
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 11: available at the moment, just sort of wild stock class.

1230
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: I guess, good on you. Well, congratulations. It's the big

1231
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: one to canter Wine Awards if you want something really

1232
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: special from Craigie range is not an ad. Sophia is

1233
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: my favorite wine of all time. It was the Quarry,

1234
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: but then at Sophia it is Sofia. Now I will

1235
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: probably go to my grave with a bottle of Sofia

1236
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: just saying I do feel better. Actually I talked about wine,

1237
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: lifted myself up a little bit. That was good and

1238
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: it's going to get even better because James May is

1239
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: back on the program. He's coming to the country. I'll

1240
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: tell you why he's coming to the country, but watching

1241
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: him online, I still watch him online a lot. He

1242
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: did a very nice thing with Jay Leno the other

1243
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: day that I've got to talk to him about. He

1244
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: drove a very nice ferrari the other day, which is

1245
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: the V twelve Ferrari, which I've got to talk to

1246
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: him about. I'll probably talk to him about Grand Tour,

1247
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: and I don't know that I'm going to have my

1248
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 2: time for any of this, but anyway, James May after

1249
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: the News, which is.

1250
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: Next setting me agenda and talking the big issues, the

1251
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Mike Costing, Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, communities, Life Your Way, News,

1252
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: togs Head Besiven Past Day.

1253
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: Well, James May not only back, Who's heading our Way?

1254
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen as Our Man in series, it's

1255
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: well worth watching Japan, India and Italy. He also has

1256
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: the pub. He's got his own gin, but it's the

1257
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: theater that brings him here explorers the Age of Discovery.

1258
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: It will be arriving in August. James May is with

1259
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: this Good morning, Good morning, sir. We last had you

1260
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: on the program in twenty nineteen, and that was just

1261
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: ahead of season three of the Grand Tour. This will

1262
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: be the only Grand Tour question I ask. But given

1263
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 2: it's been six years, has that contribution to your side

1264
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: of television, both top Gear and Grand Tour settled in

1265
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: your mind? Are you at peace with yourself and life

1266
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: moves on?

1267
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 18: That's very nice of you to put it that way,

1268
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 18: because I think, yes, you are right. I am largely

1269
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 18: at peace with myself. I'm very happy with what happened,

1270
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 18: and I am ready to move on to a broad

1271
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 18: Sunday's upland very busy.

1272
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: Are you deliberately busy?

1273
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 18: No, quite the opposite. This year was going to be

1274
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 18: my what I called a dry run at retirement to

1275
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 18: see how much I liked it that I've ended up

1276
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 18: doing a live tour, a couple of TV shows, various

1277
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 18: other odds and sods. It's actually the busiest year I've

1278
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 18: had for probably a decade in terms of demands on

1279
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 18: my time. But maybe that's a good thing, you know,

1280
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 18: maybe if I was left of my own devices, i'd

1281
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 18: sit in the garden and rot.

1282
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: Because what I wanted to know is is post your

1283
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: ground to a top Gear thing was the work you

1284
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: wanted to do, ideas you wanted to explore and you're

1285
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: now doing that, or has it just happened.

1286
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 18: It's a boringly predictable answer, but it's a bit of both.

1287
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 18: There were some things I wanted to do, none of

1288
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 18: those have come to fruition. And there were things that

1289
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 18: other people wanted me to do that I've agreed to.

1290
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: And have you enjoyed them and enriched yourself through the process.

1291
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 18: Well, actually yes, I think. I mean I try to

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Speaker 18: deny it. I'm sure a lot of us do, but

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Speaker 18: I quite like being busy, and I like having I

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Speaker 18: like having things to do and an objective and I mean,

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Speaker 18: let's be honest, a sense of purpose and self worth.

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Speaker 18: We're all needy underneath, especially people in TV, in the media,

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Speaker 18: We're all just crying for help.

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Speaker 2: Our man in I enjoyed them all, but I particularly

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Speaker 2: like Japan. It struck me that that could go for river,

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Speaker 2: couldn't it. There's one hundred and ninety six countries you

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Speaker 2: could be our man in.

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Speaker 18: Yes, I think you're right. Amazon didn't think so, though,

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Speaker 18: so they binned it. I was quite cooking to do

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Speaker 18: our Man in the UK because I thought The one

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Speaker 18: thing none of us ever does is explore our own countries.

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Speaker 18: We always think I must go if you live in Britain,

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Speaker 18: for example, I must go to New Zealand, or I

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 18: must go to the Maldives, or I must go and

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Speaker 18: explore India. But why not go and explore miles down

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Speaker 18: the road?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? And so well, why not make it an independent

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Speaker 2: production James may incorporate it brings you our man in

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Speaker 2: oh Man at home. Yes, precisely. We might have just

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Speaker 2: whiteboarded a half decent idea other things exactly. The show

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Speaker 2: you're bringing to the country is that fraught given its

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Speaker 2: live and from what I can understand of it, it's scripted

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Speaker 2: but technically involved as well. So the potential for chaos

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Speaker 2: is there, is it?

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Speaker 18: Not that that's a very polite way of putting out.

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Speaker 18: I think the potential for cocking it up is enormous.

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Speaker 18: I'm not really very experienced at live things. We used

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Speaker 18: to do top Gear Live and then Cluts and Hammond

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Speaker 18: and May live. But there were three of us doing it,

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Speaker 18: plus our stunt driving team and various other circus performers.

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Speaker 18: And it was I mean, it wasn't it was quite

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Speaker 18: It was quite nerve wracking at times, but it wasn't

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Speaker 18: really technically very different. This one is quite intimidating because

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Speaker 18: it's just me. If it goes wrong, I can't just

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Speaker 18: turn to Richard Hammond and go, so, Richard, what do

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Speaker 18: you think you know? And completely throw it to him

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Speaker 18: and watching the squirm. I don't have that option. I

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Speaker 18: have to I have to keep going, which on the

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Speaker 18: whole I don't have a problem with. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 18: quite good at keeping going. But yes, it's I'm slightly

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Speaker 18: nervous about it, if I'm honest, But that's also quite

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Speaker 18: a good thing because it's it's stimulating. You know, it's exciting.

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Speaker 18: You have a live audience. You can't you can't rewind,

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 18: you can't edit. You just have to go out there

1339
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 18: and feel either the love or the hate, depending on

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Speaker 18: which comes out of the audience.

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Speaker 2: Is this entirely your show? You wrote it, Therefore you

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: put the parameters around it. Who's the discoverer, what you

1343
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 2: say about them or as they More to it than.

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Speaker 18: That, it's a bit, it's a it's a slightly more

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Speaker 18: complicated process than that. The organizers came up with the

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Speaker 18: bare bones of the show and then I've added a

1347
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 18: few bits, and we've taken a few bits out, and

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Speaker 18: then I've turned it into my own words, and I

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01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 18: have written the entire script. But I mean it's two

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Speaker 18: hours long. I don't think since I'm not part of

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Speaker 18: the Royal Shakespeare Company or anything like that, I don't

1352
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 18: think I can actually remember it word for word. I've

1353
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 18: got to. I have to remember the gist of it,

1354
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 18: what is often referred to as the narrative arc. There's

1355
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 18: a terrible expression that we all hate it. But I

1356
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 18: have to essentially remember that and just stand there and

1357
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 18: tell the stories. There are there special effects. We've got

1358
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Speaker 18: an artist on the stage. We've got lights and projections

1359
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 18: of pictures and dry eyes and fog and the power

1360
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Speaker 18: of the ship and all these things, so it'll be,

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Speaker 18: you know, it'll be good to look at, but ultimately

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01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 18: I have to stand there and tell stories.

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Speaker 2: Have you actually done it yet in terms of it's

1364
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: coming to Australia in New Zealand? Have you run it

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Speaker 2: through Britain as a bit of a taste trial to

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01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: warm it up for us? Or is this are we

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Speaker 2: the guinea pigs.

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Speaker 18: We're actually running it through Australia in New Zealand and

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Speaker 18: then Singapore doing it in Britain. I don't think it's

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Speaker 18: because we're regarding the antivities as a guinea pig. I

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 18: think it's more because the way that the timing of

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Speaker 18: the thing is such that we come to you in

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 18: your winter, ESSENSI, and by the time we bring the

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01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 18: show back to Britain, it will be winter here and

1375
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 18: people will be you know, depressed, drunk, no money or

1376
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 18: what episode I'll consider going to watch me in a

1377
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 18: theater show.

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Speaker 2: All right, hey, listen, I've got to talk to you

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Speaker 2: about cars. Let me do that in just a couple

1380
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Speaker 2: of months. James May isn't Brittain for us this morning

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Speaker 2: more in a moment thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Ihard Radio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks. It'll be sixteen past that. James

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Speaker 2: May is the gift. Now listen, James, We've got to

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Speaker 2: talk about cars. I watched you the other day. I

1387
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: saw you think with Jay Lino. Now I'm assuming he's

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: on a zimpagre. He's on a diet because he's literally vanished.

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Speaker 18: It's a lot thinner than he used to be. I mean,

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Speaker 18: I didn't ask him about it because that would be

1391
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 18: terribly indiscreet, and rather, rather, let's be honest, I thought.

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 18: I mean, some people have commented saying, oh, Jay looks

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01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 18: so thin, but I actually thought he looked quite healthy.

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01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: But it's just I was just concerned. But he wasn't

1395
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: done well the Triumph though the tr This is what

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: I got out of your video with Jay, and people

1397
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: should watch it. Your relationship with the Triumph TR six

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01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 2: Is it about the car or is it about your

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: time and place in life and therefore your relationship with

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01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: with what happened to be there at the time.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, what you see, that's the That's the sort of

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 18: question that earns you the big bucks because I think

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01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 18: it is quite a complicated thing. There are there are

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 18: aspects of the of the TR six that connect with

1405
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 18: my teenage years, well even with my childhood. I suppose

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 18: it was the first It was the first car I

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 18: drove that wasn't my own car. As a solo review

1408
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 18: on top Gear, I've always admired it. I always wanted one,

1409
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 18: So is it I mean, I do like them as well.

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 18: Even though I'm not a massive fan of classic cars,

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 18: I tend to think that you know you're better off

1412
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 18: of the model, but I do really like the TR six.

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01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 18: Is it about the car? Is it about my yearning

1414
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 18: for the past? Is it about some unresolved personal trauma

1415
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 18: or crisis. I don't really know. I think that's for

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01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 18: someone else to decide. Yeah, there that you're mad?

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: Are you riveling as much as I am? In the

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01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't say this in a nasty way.

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: In the back down of the motor industry on internal

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01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 2: combustion engines and what we have seen, what we thought

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: was going to happen and what is happening are two

1422
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: completely different things. And I reference your review the other

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: day with the Ferrari, the chill Andre twelve cylinders. Who

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01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: would have thought, Yeah, I know it was.

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Speaker 18: It was surprisingly delicious. It shouldn't have been surprising. I know,

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 18: I know what that sort of thing is like, and

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 18: I know I still have a soft spot for it.

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Speaker 18: You're meaning that the electric car revolution hasn't quite we

1429
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 18: thought it, but well, I mean I don't rejoice in it.

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Speaker 18: I'm open minded about it. I have I have a Tesla.

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01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 18: I've been driving electrically for over a decade because I

1432
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 18: sort of I mean, the way I've always put it

1433
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 18: is I feel I should take part in the experiment.

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Speaker 18: I'm a car enthusiast. I'm in the fortunate position of

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 18: being able to so I ought to be interested in

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 18: where the cars going or not going, So I should

1437
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 18: I should join in. There's no point in sort of,

1438
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 18: you know, digging a trench and sticking your head over

1439
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 18: in a tin hat and going bar electric cars, bugger off.

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01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 18: I'm going to have this flat six until I die.

1441
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 18: You've got to You've got to look at a bit

1442
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 18: of both and and sort of. You don't have to

1443
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 18: make a decision so much, but you have to. You

1444
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 18: have to be. The way I always put it is

1445
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 18: absorbent to possibilities.

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: But you would be. It would be fairce tosu, would

1447
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,520
Speaker 2: it not that the Ferrari does more for you emotionally

1448
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: than an electric car ibber will.

1449
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 18: Mechanically. Yes, I think I believe in I don't really

1450
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 18: believe the argument that cars or any machines have soul.

1451
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 18: I think that's a that's a slight cop out for

1452
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 18: people who can't articulate what it is they like about something.

1453
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 18: But I do believe in machine character and the character

1454
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 18: of electric motors everywhere, not just in cars, is fairly

1455
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 18: uniform because they simply spin round around and whine. The

1456
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 18: thing that makes internal combustion engines interesting and full of

1457
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 18: character is ultimately because they are flawed. But of course

1458
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 18: so are we, so therefore maybe we can relate to

1459
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 18: them better and explore their their foibles and their strengths

1460
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 18: and their weaknesses, and either sympathize with them or exploit them.

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Speaker 2: List when I tell you what we're looking forward to

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: having you in the country, turning a month or so

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01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 2: away and the show.

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Speaker 18: I've been terribly pompoused, then I should apologize.

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01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: No, no, you never, never, You're not not pompous, and

1466
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: there's no need to apologize. It's always a joy. And

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01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: I just hope it's not another six years before we

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: get you back on the program.

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Speaker 18: No, well, I'll gladly come on. It was you know

1470
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 18: when I'm there, which is only let me work out

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Speaker 18: how many weeks away it is, six, five, six, six

1472
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Speaker 18: or seven. Well, I can't do that calculating exactly.

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Speaker 2: There's a waste of lovely James may lovely to see

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Speaker 2: you again, nice to talk.

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Speaker 18: And you, sir, very nice, as I ever see you again?

1476
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Speaker 2: Soon there we go, and we'll get him in the

1477
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: studio when he turns up in August. James may always

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Speaker 2: So that's literally just unfolding in front of us and

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Speaker 2: what has already been a fairly busy morning. Mike also

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Speaker 2: inter you with jame Z e very kind. I've always thinking,

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Speaker 2: having done them all over the years, several times, I'm

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Speaker 2: just winking I would come close to saying he's the

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Speaker 2: nicest of them. He certainly that I think the most thoughtful,

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01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: But you can't escape the luminosity of the clarks and name.

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01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: But I think I enjoyed James as much as any,

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Speaker 2: if not more. Mike only drink red wine. I can't

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Speaker 2: decide whether that makes you a snob or bargain Well,

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Speaker 2: it makes me neither. I just find white wine just

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: a little bit of cidic. And you can only consume

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01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: so much wine in life. But to capsicker me for

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Speaker 2: you wine no, no, just a cidic. And I'm thinking,

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: you know, if you only have a glass a week,

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: then you might as well have the glass that you

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Speaker 2: actually want. Agree with you on, Sophia, Mike as in

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Speaker 2: the wine drunk a bottle of the twenty fifteen last night,

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: jeez nice or some just whole bottle? Was it twenty fifteen?

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Speaker 2: I hear you on the craggy Range, Sofia. However, I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed a very delicious tomato twenty nineteen bull Noose, which

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Speaker 2: is a Sarah outstanding wine. And the grapes have grown

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Speaker 2: in the bay and the gimlet gravels. Thanks for the

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Speaker 2: story showcasing one of the many great things about Hawk Spain.

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Speaker 2: Mom My great, Please do no worries at all. Starmer's

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Speaker 2: in Europe talking about NATO, talking about planes, talking about war.

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Speaker 2: Back home, he's got a revolt on his hands over

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Speaker 2: welfare and it's big trouble. So we'll get the details

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Speaker 2: from Rod Little when we go to Britain directly after

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Speaker 2: the News, which is next under Mike Husking brickst.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the know,

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most

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Speaker 1: powerful Defender ever made, and news Togs dead be getting.

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Speaker 2: Too I was just thinking back to Nicola Willis this

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01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: morning and the various issues that we raised with her.

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Speaker 2: But there was a release under the Official Information Act

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Speaker 2: yesterday of some correspondents that Christian Hawksby, who's the villa

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: and governor at the Reserve Bank, wrote back to her.

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Speaker 2: She's in a battle with the Reserve Bank at the

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: moment over the capital funding and the amount of money

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: you have to put aside for the retail banks and

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01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: she wants less of it and they need to have it,

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 2: and there's a review currently, but Hawksby's arguing against it,

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Speaker 2: which is not surprise him because he was Deputy under

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: Or and Ore was all over it. But I'll come

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: to that later of ar get time. But so between

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Speaker 2: the banks that she's going to fix and the supermarkets

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: she's going to fix, and the RB which she's allegedly

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01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: going to fix, and that's before we get to today's scandal,

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Speaker 2: she's busy twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 12: Nine International Correspondence with ends an eye insurance peace of

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 12: mind for New Zealand Business.

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: Britain immediately Rodert Little as well as morning.

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 8: Mate, good morning to you mate.

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Speaker 2: I do want to get to Keir Starmer and NATO

1557
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 2: and all this this this seeming, this hyperbole about you.

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01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: You're going to war at any moment, will need some

1559
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: nuclear jets. But first of all, while he's sitting there

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: in Europe at the moment it seems to be the

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 2: number around the welfare debate in the so called revolt grows.

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Speaker 2: Is he in real trouble here?

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Speaker 8: Yes he is. He's in trouble ab loosing the vote.

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Speaker 8: There are at least one hundred and twenty labor MPs

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 8: who are threatening to rebel. Now you might assume that

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01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 8: some of those can be talked round, but the trouble

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 8: is a t sectuary has always has been over the

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 8: last few weeks in the direction of more complaints rather

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Speaker 8: than fewer. And he's got a real problem on his hands.

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Speaker 8: And then the alternatives. He could kick the debate down

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Speaker 8: the road into autumn we are coming to the end

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Speaker 8: of the parliamentary term of the year, or he could concede,

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,839
Speaker 8: or he could plow ahead and risk defeat. It's not easy,

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Speaker 8: and there's some very very angry people, particularly amongst those

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Speaker 8: labor MPs elected on perhaps very slim margins, indeed who

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Speaker 8: reckon they're only going to be there for four or

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Speaker 8: five years anyway, So why not complain? Why not cause trouble?

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01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: This was always going to be the problem with a

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Speaker 2: large caucus, wasn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah it was, Yes, it was. And it's also always

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 8: going to be a problem with a labor party which

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 8: is elected to look after the poorest, even if it

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 8: doesn't immediately picking on the very poorest in society penalize

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Speaker 8: that being said, you know, there is a five billion

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01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 8: quids worth of welfare exactly, it doesn't even touch the size,

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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's what I want.

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Speaker 2: To know from the one twenty. Do they say, look,

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Speaker 2: we'll find them five billiona elsewhere and here are my ideas,

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Speaker 2: or do they just say the rich, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 8: All they say. That's all they say. It's the answer

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Speaker 8: to everything.

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Speaker 2: Right but.

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Speaker 8: Left in the country.

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01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: No exactly. But from his point of view, Starmer's point

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Speaker 2: of view, politically among the public, is he doing the

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Speaker 2: right thing and they're out of step?

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Speaker 8: I don't think. Well, I don't know the answer. The

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Speaker 8: honest answer is I don't know. It isn't a massive

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Speaker 8: public issue in the way that immigration is, for example,

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Speaker 8: in a way that the winter fuel payments were. I

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 8: don't think that either it's the same residence as either

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 8: of those. So my guess is a temptoe will be

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 8: that he will climb down a little bit. But how

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01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 8: much you know, five billion pound cuts end up being

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01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 8: two billion found cuts. How is she going to pay

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Speaker 8: for everything else, such as our brand new, spanking nuclear

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01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 8: jets to bomb everyone with AH.

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Speaker 2: Which brings me to NATO and so uk must prepare

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Speaker 2: for the war scenario. It's is this any and you

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Speaker 2: are buying these these these jets that can carry don't

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01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: have to but can twelve new fighter jets. Is there

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Speaker 2: an alarmism about what we're hearing at the moment.

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Speaker 8: Yes, you could call it alarmism, you could call it realism.

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Speaker 8: I suppose we are you know where we are with

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Speaker 8: Ukraine and Russia. There's also problems with Iran, and there

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01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 8: is the distinct possibility, even though this was a successful

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 8: NATO meeting and Trump seemed very happy and pleased with

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01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 8: what have been agreed, that that NATO really is going

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Speaker 8: to be without the USA, which will do what it

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 8: wants when it wants, regardless one anyone else wants. So

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 8: there is a feeling that we're more on our own

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Speaker 8: now and that times are more dangerous than they've been

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Speaker 8: for perhaps I don't know, forty years. I would guess.

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Speaker 2: When we talked on Tuesday, we were busy discussing the

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Speaker 2: Palestine Action Group and the head of the police was

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Speaker 2: exasperated of what he could or couldn't do. Where are

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Speaker 2: we at with them?

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Speaker 8: Well, they have now been listed as a terrorist organization,

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 8: but there is still a large trump of people in

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Speaker 8: the country, including eleven MPs who were saying they stand

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Speaker 8: with Palestine Action. That includes several labor MPs and formal

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Speaker 8: labor EMPs such as Jeremy Corby Diyan Abbott. Usual suspects,

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Speaker 8: you might say, a woman called Zara Sultana who has

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 8: said that she stands with Palestine Action, which would of

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01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 8: course be breaking the law if they were a terrorist group,

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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 8: as well as Pritcomery and Green MPs, and indeed a

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Speaker 8: voice from the Crypt, one of Tony Player's former advisors

1639
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 8: has come up and said that he doesn't think that

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Speaker 8: the prescribing the Palestine Action is the right thing to do.

1641
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Speaker 8: So there is going to be a debate over this,

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01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 8: but I think the vast majority of the public is

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Speaker 8: on the side, is on the side of Kirstarma on

1644
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 8: this and not on the side of that. Blair advisor,

1645
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Speaker 8: Lord Falconer.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, Rod. We'll see you next week,

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: Rod Little Tuesdays and Thursdays. If thirty five Ay's They

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 2: are these jets, twelve of them equipped with nuclear bombs.

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: They don't have to carry nuclear bombs, they can carry

1650
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: regular bombs. But nevertheless they've they're going to be part

1651
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 2: of the NATO force. They've also confirmed the five percent

1652
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: this morning, as we heard from the Kiyostarma earlier on

1653
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,879
Speaker 2: in the program. But this talk about war in Britain.

1654
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: UK must actively prepare for the possibility of the UK

1655
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: coming under direct threat, potentially in a wartime scenario, call

1656
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: for in all of society effort to make the UK

1657
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 2: more secure, adding the country would have to pull together.

1658
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: They'd have to pull together. This is the Cabinet Office

1659
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: minutes ago called Pat McFadden strategy offered a plan that

1660
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 2: is both clear eyed and hard edged about the challenges

1661
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: we face that real Lamas of seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks, a.

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Speaker 2: B bulting away from nine Microme wasn't built in today.

1665
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 2: What the government inherited is going to take time to

1666
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: fix the shambles. No need to get off your high

1667
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: horse just yet. I'm not sure that's grammatically correct, but

1668
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. A similar line. You got

1669
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Speaker 2: to admire the intention of Willis Stafford Stanford and Bishop

1670
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: at Hell and try to address and or change things

1671
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: they consider in the country's best interest. Unfortunately, you can't

1672
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: change overnight the attitudes of all those well and sconced

1673
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: bureaucrats who've been indoctrinated by six years the previous administration.

1674
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Speaker 2: This is starting to be an old argument. I've got

1675
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: sympathy with it, but if you look at the polls,

1676
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't. And that's your philosophy versus

1677
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: urraal politic. There's no point in you and I are

1678
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: sitting here going yeah, that makes sense when the polls

1679
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: say what the Poles say. All the Poles at the

1680
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 2: moment do have the government returning, but it's tight and national,

1681
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: particularly in trouble, and the Prime Minister in trouble as well,

1682
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: and the IPSOS issues poll I think that'll change. I

1683
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: mean it's too weird for words. I mean labor not

1684
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: that it's their fault. You don't have policies in the

1685
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: year before an election year. But they have no policies. Therefore,

1686
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: you can't possibly conclude that they would be better at

1687
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: seventeen of the twenty issues because you don't know what

1688
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 2: they would do. So therefore, in that sense it's null

1689
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: and void. However, it does provide a perception, and the

1690
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: perception is growing, and this is where the alarmism needs

1691
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: to enter the behire fairly quickly. The perception is growing

1692
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: that these guys do a lot of talking, and some

1693
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: of the stuff they're doing work. So I mean, just

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01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: little things pseudo effortrine, fantastic about time, common sense, melatonin,

1695
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 2: nice and simple about time, common sense. But hold on

1696
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: speed limits, road cones. We're still talking about that, Maori funding.

1697
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: We're still talking about it. You know, it's whack a mole.

1698
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: You said you would, You said you would, said somebody

1699
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 2: in the news. How many letters does Niicola will just

1700
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: want to write about the supermarkets? I mean, surely he

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: gets boring after while writing letters. Do something. If you've

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01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: got some magic for supermarkets, do it. If you've got

1703
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: some magic for the banks, do it. If you've got

1704
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: something you want to get done at the RB do it,

1705
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: don't talk about it, don't write letters, don't threaten, don't

1706
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: wag your finger.

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01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: Do it.

1708
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: And that's what people, I think elected them to do.

1709
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: Then we come to the Middle East where we have

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01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 2: a plane there, they seem reluctant to tell us what

1711
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: the plane is doing. As reading in Australia, the Australian

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Speaker 2: plane went in land, had got some Australians and flew

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Speaker 2: home again. I don't know why it's so secret here anyway,

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: turns out no one wants to leave, which then begs

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01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: the question why do we send the plane. So this

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 2: is Israel. M Fat said yesterday they are not receiving

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Speaker 2: requests from New Zealanders to depart. Now that doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 2: If you've set up a life in Israel, and you're

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01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: living in Israel, and you've made your own decisions as

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Speaker 2: to why you want to live in that particular part

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01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: of the world, things team to have settled down as

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01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: quickly as they fired up. And if you don't want

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: to come back to New Zealand, you don't want to

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: come back to New Zealand. We got one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty nine in Iran. Apparently in one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: registered in Israel, but no one's to go, So I'm interested.

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Speaker 2: Did we send a plane for no particular reason? Eleven

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The make Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities News

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: Togsdad Be Mike.

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Speaker 2: As much as I want to see things change faster,

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01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: I can't help but think the past government did their

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01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: changes over two consecutive terms. So maybe it's easy, not

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01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,839
Speaker 2: so easy to reve it that's true. All I'm arguing

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 2: is that an election which comes around every three years,

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Speaker 2: as a first time government, you don't want to go

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01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 2: back to the people and go, look, give us more time,

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01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: give us more time, give us more time. It was

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: more complicated than we thought. That's a weaker argument than go, hey,

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Speaker 2: there's what we did. See that and that, and that's

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01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: what they're facing. Is Miami point. Christian hawks be back

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: to him and Nicola's problem with the Reserve Bank official

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01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: memo to the Finance Minister. He says this around about

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01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: what the capital required by retail banks is and whether

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01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 2: or not that makes lending in this country more expensive

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01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: some commentators, writes Christian Turniicola suggests that our requirements are

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01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: not in line with international norms. For example, S and

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01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: p AS and the Ratings Agency sometimes cited as stating

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01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: that we have the most restrictive settings in the world.

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01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: We consider this to be incorrect, as they are comparing

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: our total capital requirements where a subcomponent of other countries' requirements.

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: Retail banks in New Zealand were well advanced in their

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: plans to meet the new requirements. It would mean greater

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01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: risk of bank failure. Now, this is the whole point

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01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: of all these people holding money or and obviously hawksby thought,

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01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: rightly or wrongly, I argue wrongly that somehow our banks

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01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: are at risk of falling over. Surely the GFC, surely

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01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: the COVID period are two of the best possible examples

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01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: you would want. That our banks not only didn't fall over,

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01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: but they boomed, so therefore the chances of a bank

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01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: falling over is about zero. It would mean greater risk

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01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: of a bank failure, increasing the risks that the economic

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: and social costs associated with banking failures would fall on

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01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand households and bus businesses. That's an alarmist view

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01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: of the world. And if I was willis I'd do

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01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: something about it. I'll tell you what. If I was Willis,

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01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: i'd write a letter. Tesla sales out this morning. By

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01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 2: the way, I didn't raise this with James Mayer's tempted though.

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01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: Tesla sales out this morning in Europe just down the

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01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight percent on the year. Chinese manufacturer is not

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01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: having quite the same problem. They're up again, and those

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01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: sales are down for the fifth month in a row.

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Speaker 2: One thing I did, and I will talk about with

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: James of Eve comes to the studio when he's here

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01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: in August, is because he said he had a Tesla.

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01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 7: Is.

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Speaker 2: I still haven't been able to get my head around

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01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: the idea that you would buy a car based on

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: who owns the company and runs the company. It's the

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01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: weirdest thing because you're not buying a Tesla now because

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01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 2: you had you hate Elon? Tell me who runs I

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01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 2: don't know Hyundai? Are you buying a Hundo because of

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01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 2: who runs you don't even know? Or Toyota or Nissen

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01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: or any Can you name the head of any car

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01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 2: company anywhere in the world outside of Elon? And you

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01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: don't buy a car or not buy a car because

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01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: of who runs a company or their corporate culture or

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01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: anything to do with it. What you do is you

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01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: buy it because it might look good and go broom.

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01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: And it's read five minutes away from nine.

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist's Warehouse the Real House of Vitamins.

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Speaker 2: So JD's out as advance and he's at a dinner

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: Republican party dinner in Ohio, and he's trying to tell

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01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: a he's trying to show a different side to Trump,

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: and so he's been JD sitting beside Trump when he's

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01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: on the phone. So so he is JD's little story

1797
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: of his good buddy Dawn.

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01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 14: And the President looks over at me, puts the foreign

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01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 14: leader on mute and says this is not going very well,

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01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 14: and he presses the red button and and my eyes

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01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 14: get really big, and I'm like, mister President, you know

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01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 14: what what just happened?

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01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 4: And he's he looks at me and he goes nuclear.

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01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: Clear.

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01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 4: And two minutes later.

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01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 14: A guy walks in with the diet coke and he

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01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 14: looks back at me and he.

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01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 4: Says, it wasn't nuclear, It's just the diet coke button.

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01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: And that's.

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 8: So that's the.

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01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 9: Kind of guy.

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 14: My fellow Republicans that we have as the president of

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01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 14: the United.

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01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: States, and they presumably let that up and loved it

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01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: until it was fantastic. Who is Lara So Lara Trump

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: is the wife of one of them, and I can't

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01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: work out who had wife of Eric. Anyway, I saw

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01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: her yesterday. She's got a cooking show on Fox. Now

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01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking what happened there? So she was trying to

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01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: split and she said with her manicured fingers in her

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01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: large diamonds on her hands, oh, it's been a while,

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01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: as she tried to split open a vanilla pod.

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01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 6: And we were doing pilates on Fox.

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01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, this is like I mean, I mean, you're watching pilates,

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01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm watching the cooking. But Lara Trump's got a good

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01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: job on Fox. And she didn't look All I'm saying

1827
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: is she didn't look comfortable in the kitchen. When she

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01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: said it had been a while, I took it to

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01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: mean she didn't even know what room she was in

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: and she didn't recognize it because there are people in

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01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: her life that do that stuff in that room. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: God bless.

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Speaker 7: Her and good life.

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 2: Back tomorrow morning from six Happy Days, she said this.

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01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: Lafey forever and so he's to get through them.

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Speaker 9: Let'st be it over.

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01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: We Could Dance.

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01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 18: We Could Dance on nine.

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