1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: So Mark Mitchell's promising to basically out crush the Crusher 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: on boy races. If you're caught racing once and convicted, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: your car can be crushed or sold rather than the 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: current three strikes law. Police Association president Chris car Hit 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: with me this morning. Chris, good morning, Good morning, Ryan, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: lots to talk to you about this morning. So the 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: first of all, Crusher actually only crushed three cars. How 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: many do you think police might get with these new powers. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, the one conviction rather than having to have three 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: convictions under the current law should make a difference. Look, 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: we've got to do something. These things are out of 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: control them. They're not just anti social boy racing. These 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: things have got to the point where the deliberately antagonizing 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: police when they turn up, they're getting bottled, they're getting 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: their cars rammed, and the public has had a goutsful 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: of it when it's in their neighborhood. So I think 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: it's where the try. 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: The firearms registry. So actors are basically doing agree to 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: disagree over this review. This talk of only saving two 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: lives a year if we have a firearms registry. Does 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: that sound worth the expense? I mean, is that what 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: is that what you are hearing. 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's a ridiculous measure. She asked for this review, 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: and she doesn't like the results, and now she doesn't 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: want to listen to it. I mean, two lives. To me, 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: two lives is worth it. But that was one incident. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: She forgets that actually the third life was the offender 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: who took his own life. What about the two police 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: officers that were shot at that incident, one suffering life 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: change and injuries. These are just one incident. I can 31 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: give you dozens where that actually take in firearms off 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: the street because they've been identified through the REGIS chairs 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: being supplied by licensed firearms owners to criminals. She's just 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: upset that the results have actually been outstanding. And why 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: would you do a review after one year when it's 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: a five year limitation before this is up and running. 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: It's just crazy that she doesn't like what she's hearing 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: so she wants to stop it. 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound a bit odd to be having 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: a review, a review of a review which you initiated 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: to Hey, the five hundred extra cops year basically a 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: few from what I can gather a few months later 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: than promised. We did actually know this a little while ago, 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: but big deal or do you think they are genuinely 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: trying here? 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: I like they're definitely trying. They're trying really hard. Look, 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: we always said it's an arbitrary date that you give. 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be tough. But I think what you 49 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: have to look as longer term is this actually going 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: to be a bigger problem. We know that a struggling 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: to recruit, but we're also seeing attrition rise. I think 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: you're going to see longer term some real concerns around 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: whether police can get enough staff. Auckland is south Is. 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 2: You know they've got like ten percent vacancies for constavorary 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: staff right across Auckland. It's start become a real pressure point. 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: It's a worldwide problem and I think we might be 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: seeing it manifest itself in New Zealand. 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Now, appreciate your time. 59 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 2: Chris. 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Chris Carhill Police Association President, with me this morning. 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio. 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: E