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Speaker 1: Well, the search is on to find the next All

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Speaker 1: Blacks coach and New Zealand Rugby has set up a

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Speaker 1: five person panel to shortlist and interview candidates. But here's

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Speaker 1: the catch. They are inviting only New Zealand coaches to apply.

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Speaker 1: So you've got to be a Kiwi, you've got to

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Speaker 1: have the passport, and you have to have international coaching experience.

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Speaker 1: Interim New Zealand Rugby Chief Executive Steve Lancaster is with

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Speaker 1: us this evening. Kelder Steve hi Jack. Why does the

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Speaker 1: coach have to be a New Zealander.

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Speaker 2: Well, firstly, it's the All Blacks and we just think

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Speaker 2: it's important to have a New Zealander at the helm

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Speaker 2: of the team. But equally importantly is the fact that

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Speaker 2: we incredibly blessed in New Zealand with the caliber of

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Speaker 2: coaches that we have and continue to produce. So we're

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Speaker 2: confident that there is a good number of coaches both

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand and around the world that are

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Speaker 2: capable of coaching the All Blacks and we don't think

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Speaker 2: we need to go outside of that.

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Speaker 1: Why do you require international coaching experience?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're two years out from the World Cup. Midway

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Speaker 2: through a World Cup cycle and so we simply don't

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Speaker 2: have time for someone to get up to speed. In

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Speaker 2: the international context, it's really important that we appoint someone

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Speaker 2: who knows exactly what they're coming into and can hit

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Speaker 2: the ground running.

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Speaker 1: What level of international experience is necessary.

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Speaker 2: So we want a head coach and you know, while

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Speaker 2: we're not closing anything off here, it's important that there've

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Speaker 2: been a head coach an international rugby and you know,

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Speaker 2: there'll be an element of subjectivity of this, but we'd

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Speaker 2: want someone. We'd want to see that they've coached out

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Speaker 2: a reasonable standard in terms of their international head coaching.

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Speaker 1: Would Brazil be a reasonable standard?

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Speaker 2: Probably not right. I don't want to be jednik on

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Speaker 2: any of these things, but I'm not sure that we

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Speaker 2: have a New Zealander that's coaching Brazil.

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Speaker 1: Do we or his coached, Scott Robertson coach Brazil?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, you know more than they're not on that one.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so that wouldn't that wouldn't cut the

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Speaker 1: mustard this time this time round, what you said, a

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Speaker 1: number of New Zealanders you think would be sufficiently qualify

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Speaker 1: for the job. Have you heard anything from Josh Matt.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, as you said at the head, you know

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Speaker 2: there are things I can and can't speak about. One

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Speaker 2: thing I can't once speak about as any individual potential candidates.

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Speaker 1: Right, what about timeframes? When are you trying to have

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Speaker 1: a coach in place by.

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Speaker 2: Well, and again, we don't want to put a deadline

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Speaker 2: on this because that's inherently dangerous in these type of processes.

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Speaker 2: But we're mindful that the clock is attacking. We need

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Speaker 2: to give this the urgency and the care that it requires,

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Speaker 2: so we will be moving as quickly as possible. But

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Speaker 2: as I say, there'll be and how I'm in a

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Speaker 2: fluidity to that because that's the nature of these processes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, ideally do you want to coach to be

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Speaker 1: in place during the Super Rugby season?

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Speaker 2: Though? Oh ideally yeah. I mean, I'll make no bones

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Speaker 2: about it. We would like a coach in place as

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Speaker 2: soon as possible, and we'll be working towards that once

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Speaker 2: we know who the appoint is.

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Speaker 1: Theoretically, would it be easier to have a coach who's

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Speaker 1: currently in New Zealand? Would it be timelier to get

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Speaker 1: them in place then a coach who's currently working overseas? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily and again, I don't want to give us

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Speaker 2: too much detail here because we get into the fear

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Speaker 2: of speculation. But no, not really. I mean we offering

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Speaker 2: in the global marketplace, and location really doesn't have any

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Speaker 2: current location doesn't really have any bearing on when someone

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Speaker 2: would be able to start.

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Speaker 1: You're yet to confirm who the former All back, the

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Speaker 1: recent former All Black to go on the selection panel

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Speaker 1: will be. Can you give us a bit of a

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Speaker 1: time period, like, are you looking at an All Black

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Speaker 1: who's been in the team in the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years or are you thinking pre two thousands?

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Speaker 2: Say, you know, certainly more in the letter space. And

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Speaker 2: again we're not putting a cutoff on that, but we

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Speaker 2: think it's really important that we have someone who has

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Speaker 2: some recency in the environment, who understands the game currently,

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Speaker 2: the demands on the team, the context, and so yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at someone that has relative recency in the

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Speaker 2: team environment.

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Speaker 1: A World Cup winner, Well.

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Speaker 2: Possibly it would be great, but again we wouldn't We

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Speaker 2: wouldn't close it off to only World Cup winners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Hey, appreciate your time and you're keeping

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Speaker 1: us up to date with things. Steve, good on you.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. Thanks check

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