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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews, sealers and the insight. Andrew Dickens

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Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture

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Speaker 1: Beds and Appliant store US Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be it's good morning to welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Six minutes after five. It's a Wednesday ferry day today.

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Speaker 2: What kind of ferries do the ferrymen want? We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to the ferrymen. Marin is even just before six o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning, and the government's mission reduction plan is out today.

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Speaker 2: Simon Watts's cockerhoo that we can hit targets quicker than expected.

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Speaker 2: Is he right? We'll find out from a climate expert.

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Speaker 2: Freedom for the greyhound, but are the horses next? The

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Speaker 2: SPCA is minutes away. We've got Gavin Gray from the

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Speaker 2: UK as the fallout from Syria continues, and we have

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Speaker 2: correspondence from right around the world. This is early edition.

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Speaker 2: My name is Andrew Dickens. You can text me on

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Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two. You can email Dickens at Deuce

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Speaker 2: Talks hereb dot co dot nze.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the eleventh of December and Israel has launched

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Speaker 2: a ground incursion into Syria following the fall of the

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Speaker 2: Assad regime. Benjamin Natanya, who says he ordered the IDF

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Speaker 2: to take control of the demilitarized un Bappa zone, which

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Speaker 2: was established fifty years ago.

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Speaker 3: The only interest we have is the security of Israel

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Speaker 3: and its citizens. That's why we attacked weapons systems like,

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Speaker 3: for example, remaining of chemical weapons or long range missiles

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Speaker 3: and rockets, in order that they will not fall in

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Speaker 3: the hands of extremists.

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Speaker 2: Socials or go And they're all watching closely. Three Russian

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Speaker 2: Navy ships have been seen in satellite infantry anchodoff Syria's coast.

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Speaker 2: They left one of their Syria based military locations. They've

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Speaker 2: anchored off there. They're waiting to see as we all are.

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Speaker 2: California is burning. Evacuations are underway. This fire is eighty

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Speaker 2: seen one hundred acres wide, and it's burning of Malibu.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot of resources coming in from all

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Speaker 4: around the state helping the firefighters, and our shriff's deputies

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Speaker 4: have gone door to door making sure everyone is evacuated.

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Speaker 2: And the fire is so fast moving that officials say

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Speaker 2: it tripled in size in just one hour. Staying with America,

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Speaker 2: Luigi Manngiani the man arrested for the killing of United

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Speaker 2: Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson. He has now been charged

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Speaker 2: with his murder.

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Speaker 5: In this case, really came down of technology, was the

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Speaker 5: use of drones in Central Park, and really comes down

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Speaker 5: to the video canvas that we did. We used every

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Speaker 5: source of video that we could collect, hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 5: and hundreds of hours from hundreds of sources.

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Speaker 2: In fact, investigator has also said he was not on

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Speaker 2: a list of possible suspects until yesterday. It's a good

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Speaker 2: police work and apparently he was identified in the McDonald's

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Speaker 2: because he spent some time flirting with a waitress. Oh,

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Speaker 2: the best laid plans can fall apart. And in a

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Speaker 2: Nevada court has ruled the billionaire Rupert Murdoch cannot change

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Speaker 2: his trust to hand control over to his eldest son

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Speaker 2: his succession. As Neva said, it's believed the case was

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Speaker 2: launched after Murdoch worried about his children not agreeing on

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Speaker 2: how to run his media and by the way, he

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Speaker 2: going to appeal. How old is Rupert Murdoch. Well, first

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Speaker 2: of all, it's Keith Rupert Murdoch. He uses his middle name,

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Speaker 2: which I didn't know until just now. The man is

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Speaker 2: ninety three years old.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture

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Speaker 1: Beds and Appliant Store, You Talk, sid Bey.

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Speaker 2: There were some funny old reactions to Kiwibank being allowed

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Speaker 2: to look for New Zealand money to broaden its capital

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Speaker 2: base yesterday. You may remember I interviewed a banking academic

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Speaker 2: yesterday morning and when I asked, is this good? She cackled.

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Speaker 2: others pontificated, why bother at all? Again, the big guys

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Speaker 2: all the big guys started out small. Every business started

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Speaker 2: And Kiwi Bank is not exactly tiny. In December of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, the bank's assets totaled about thirty five

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Speaker 2: Kiwi Bank has had a rocky ride, probably because of ideology,

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Speaker 2: because it was Jim Anderton's idea that heaving great socialists.

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Speaker 2: He thought we should have a New Zealand bank, a

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Speaker 2: right governments have never really invested in the idea. But

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Speaker 2: you are judged not by politicians but by your depositors.

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Speaker 2: And so far Kiwi Bank is doing okay, but only okay.

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Speaker 2: The proposer on the table now limits the ownership for

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Speaker 2: New Zealand owned and operated investment bodies. Okay, So only

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Speaker 2: New Zealand people can invest in Kiwibank and give them

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Speaker 2: with provisos. The bank will stay a Kiwibank. It's not

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Speaker 2: the business, a business that's been in for twenty one years.

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Speaker 2: So I think this is actually an elegant move and

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Speaker 2: well worth ago. Kiwi Bank has been hobbled for its

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Speaker 2: yet it still has the support of nearly ten percent

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Speaker 2: It's a little bank set up for sentimental reasons, that

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Speaker 2: There is no harm in giving the bank a bit

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Speaker 2: of a hand in what is an uneven playing field.

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Speaker 2: And if it goes tits up, well then close it down.

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Speaker 2: But for goodness sake, give it a fighting chance that

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Speaker 2: by the way, here it comes. It's becoming real. The

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Speaker 2: government is formulating the plan to stop delivering to some letterboxes.

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Speaker 2: MB is floating an idea that five percent of mail

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Speaker 2: they're planning to lay off seven hundred workers of Opponents

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Speaker 2: say ten percent of New Zealand does not have Internet access,

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Speaker 2: the slow physical mail, the snail mail. So does this

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and

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Speaker 2: Be It is sixteen after five. Racing Minister Winst and

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Speaker 2: Peter's announced a ban on greyhound racing yesterday. With the

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Speaker 6: Hello, Anya, Hello, good morning.

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Speaker 2: You're big toughed.

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Speaker 6: We're absolutely delighted that Minister Peter's announced yesterday that the

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, the racing industry said, they were blindsided. But

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Speaker 2: have you been advocating for this for a while.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it has been advocating this for decades because the

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Speaker 2: All right? Was it surprising coming from mister racing himself

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Speaker 2: Will you now be moving on to saving the horses.

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Speaker 6: Well, now we're going to work with the continue to

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Speaker 6: work with our Greyhound Rehome and coalition partners and the

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Speaker 6: because it's really important that all of these wonderful greyhounds

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Speaker 2: Indeed, are you avoided the question? But I don't mind.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that rehoming because the dogs are not

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's going to be a struggle.

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Speaker 7: What is it done?

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Speaker 2: I think it's three thousand dogs, three.

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Speaker 6: Thousand approximately, that's correct. And what has been done is

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Speaker 6: it's great that they now no longer be able to

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Speaker 6: greyhound racing has also been shut down. We've learned all

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time today, and I wish you

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Speaker 2: are the best of black and rehousing those dogs. I

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Speaker 2: know a dog. I know a greyhounds. My brother had one.

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Speaker 2: Will God rest it soul, funny little dog, big dog,

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Speaker 2: actually very tall dog, a little bit edgy. It's fair

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Speaker 2: to say. There's a quote in the paper today from

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Speaker 2: Dawn Glover, who owns rescue greyhounds. She says the dogs

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Speaker 2: are fifty percent elegant, fifty percent weird, and one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent lazy. And she likened them to the supermodels and

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Speaker 2: the cats of the dog world. Sounds like, if you

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Speaker 2: want one, you can get one. It is nineteen after five.

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Speaker 2: Simon Watts reckons that we're going to hit our mission

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Speaker 2: reduction target six years earlier than expected. How well, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why and whether he's right. Right after the

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Speaker 1: Views you trust has done your day. It's early edition

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds

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Speaker 2: It'd be Texas are correcting me, saying say, euthanaize, not euthanized,

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Speaker 2: and I'm afraid text is you're wrong too. Both words

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Speaker 2: are correct. Euthanasia is a noun and euthanized as a verb,

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Speaker 2: so you euthanize something that when you're ah, why we're

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Speaker 2: all wrong? Both are right. Five twenty two, the government

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Speaker 2: reckons New Zealand could hit its net zero emissions goal

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Speaker 2: be a surprise to some minister of a climate change

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Speaker 2: Talks AB News Talks ABB Wednesday. Halfway there, You're almost there,

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Speaker 2: almost made it. Hey, This job of being a politician,

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Speaker 2: We learned today that Mark Mitchell will not be introducing

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Speaker 2: legislation against boy races this year, even though all year

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Speaker 2: he said he would. In June, when it was all

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Speaker 2: and to return to the good old days of crushing collins.

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Speaker 2: Let's crush those cars. But it's never happened, because it

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Speaker 2: is and I quote Mark Complex, no kidding. But look,

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Speaker 2: if he's got some time on his hands to come

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Speaker 2: South Orcan's dirt bike hooligans, who made some headlines over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. South Orcan's Dirt bike rabble is a classic

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Speaker 2: And it's time for a politician to start talking about

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Speaker 7: Andrew Dicks.

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Speaker 2: So I asked about in zim posts possibly reducing the

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Speaker 2: I asked about Christmas cards. Shirley says she sent out

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Speaker 2: She's thirty seven years old. Christmas cards are my favorite tradition.

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Speaker 2: Keep doing it, my love. News talks have been.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: As good morning, welcome back to the program. But a

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Speaker 2: cold play for you. By the way, if you've got

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Speaker 2: Dick van Dyke. Stick that into YouTube and look at

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Speaker 2: the seven minute video that's been done by Spike Jones.

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Speaker 2: It's magnificent. It'll make you cry. Dick Van Dyke ninety

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Speaker 2: nine years old. What a hero. Chris Martin, what a hero.

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Speaker 2: Now Text three, Andrew, where are you on Ducksun's racing?

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Speaker 2: My textas says, ducks on racing is slower the greyhounds,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your sense of human and that's good.

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Speaker 2: By the way, our terrorist threat level remains at low.

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Speaker 2: That's good news, but don't sleep peacefully because low still

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Speaker 2: No kidding, Sherlock. I've noticed Meanwhile, who knows what may

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program and tell me about your stadiums well.

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Speaker 9: Daneedon Venues yesterday much to celebrate with yesterday's announcement the

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Speaker 9: But a rain developing later this morning, clearing this evening

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Speaker 10: Environment Canterbury is voting on a proposal to increase bus

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Speaker 10: This follows mzta's request for a revenue increase, which lead

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. How's hell weather?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, a good story by Azariah Howld in

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Speaker 8: This is about the Environmental Science and Research Agency, probably

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Speaker 8: He wouldn't be interviewed for this story.

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Speaker 8: Should be fine? Fresh Northerlys nineteen The High Central and why.

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Speaker 11: This is since incorporating year about six years ago. Business

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Speaker 11: Desk is reporting that Sephora in Z has reported a

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Speaker 11: three point nine million dollar net loss after text. This

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Speaker 11: is for the past calendar year. Now, this deficit is

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Speaker 11: sixty three percent less than its ten point six million

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Speaker 11: dollar loss the year before. Now you'll remember, do you

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Speaker 11: remember this, Andrew? That in June Sephora in ZED announced

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Speaker 11: the closure of its Queen Street store, and that had

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Speaker 11: opened with lots of fanfare back in July twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 11: It still has two stores, one a new market and

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Speaker 11: the other one in Sylvia Park.

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Speaker 2: It's very good, but it's a hard market.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Beauty Masmetics Mecca is there first.

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Speaker 11: That's pretty popular too.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. How's that weather cloud?

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Speaker 11: Increasing? Few showers developing this evening twenty four is the

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Speaker 11: high today in auclud.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray from the UK after the break, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about Syria and what the UK's doing.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that between twenty eleven and twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand Syrians granted asylum in the UK, So there's

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Speaker 2: a big part of the population there and a lot

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Speaker 2: of them want to go home. So there are issues

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Speaker 1: In international correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Feace of

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Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Devin Gray from the UK joins us hell A Gavin

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Speaker 2: either Andrew. Awful lot of Syrians, awful lot of Syrians

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Speaker 2: in the UK. So where is the UK standing on

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Speaker 2: the Syrian issue right now?

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Speaker 12: Well, they have decided to pause decisions on further Syrian

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Speaker 12: asylum claims after basher alisade was overthrown. The government's saying

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Speaker 12: the situation is moving fast. Some people are returning to

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Speaker 12: Syria following recent developments, But there's another theory. With so

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Speaker 12: many refugees out of Syria. Some may actually think no,

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Speaker 12: actually that I'm gonna you don't try and make the

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Speaker 12: journey anyway, So there's almost fear, as it were, of

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Speaker 12: a second wave. Between twenty eleven and twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 12: more than thirty thousand Syrians were granted asylum in the UK.

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Speaker 12: There was a big program to allow them in. However,

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Speaker 12: more than nine thousand Syrians have also been picked up

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Speaker 12: on the coast, entering the country illegally, having crossed the

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Speaker 12: channel in small boats. Indeed, Syrians accounted for the fifth

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Speaker 12: largest number of silent claims in the year ending of

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Speaker 12: September this year, and almost all those who requested asylum

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Speaker 12: have been given the right to stay. So the big

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Speaker 12: question is now, with this pausing, what will happen after that?

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Speaker 12: And will some of those some thirty forty thousand still

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Speaker 12: estimated to be in the UK, will they stay or

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Speaker 12: will they actually decide to go back to Syria.

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Speaker 2: And so that explains why you see just incredible pictures

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Speaker 2: out a Trafagar Square of celebrations after what happened. But yes,

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Speaker 2: the big question for the world what will happen next? Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: speaking of migrants, what's happening in Germany.

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Speaker 12: Well, I believe it or not, Facilitating people smiling is

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Speaker 12: not technically illegal in Germany currently if that country that

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Speaker 12: their third country is outside the EU, and of course,

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Speaker 12: following Brexit that means the UK. So it is thought

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Speaker 12: that actually Germany has inadvertently become a central hub to

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Speaker 12: the people smuggling networks, using Germany as sort of warehousing

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Speaker 12: for boats and then getting the boats to the French

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Speaker 12: shores northern France in order to get across to the UK.

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Speaker 12: But Germany has finally agreed to tighten its law to

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Speaker 12: make it much easier to prosecute those helping to smuggle

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Speaker 12: migrants to the UK. A new plan has green agreed

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Speaker 12: by the two countries. In the past. Our new Prime

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Speaker 12: Minister as of July Sekirstarmers said that many of the

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Speaker 12: previous plans by the previous governments simply weren't workable. He

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Speaker 12: said he was going to go after the people smugglers,

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Speaker 12: try to get cooperation from the rest in Europe and

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Speaker 12: perhaps this is a sign that this may help. However,

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Speaker 12: once you cut off one tentacle of these networks have

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Speaker 12: seemed that at least another one or two seem to grow.

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Speaker 12: So I'm not quite sure to fake this will out,

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Speaker 12: but so far Andrew more than thirty three thousand across

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Speaker 12: the English Channel by small boats into the UK illegally.

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Speaker 12: That's considerably higher than the twenty nine thousand from all

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Speaker 12: of last year.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Gavin Gray from the UK. And it is

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Speaker 2: now eleven minutes after six. So this is news talk set.

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Speaker 1: B Andrew Diggins Countries.

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Speaker 2: How have you caught up with this? Country? Singer Randy

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Speaker 2: Travis has a new song out which is incredible because

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Speaker 2: he lost the ability to sing in twenty thirteen after

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Speaker 2: in the fatal stroke. He can't sing, and yet he's

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Speaker 2: got a brand new single out. How he recreated his

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Speaker 2: voice using AI. Now this is a good thing because

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Speaker 2: his voice is his voice and if the single sells,

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Speaker 2: he'll get the money. So he may have had a stroke,

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Speaker 2: he may not be able to sing. However, he's smart

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Speaker 2: enough to figure out how to use the technology so

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Speaker 2: that they can keep a business. So the other day,

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Speaker 2: this is two days ago. In fact, it was at

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Speaker 2: the end of last week the first ever global study

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Speaker 2: measuring the economic impact of AI and the music and

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Speaker 2: audio visual sectors came out and it calculated that general

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Speaker 2: of AI will enrich tech companies while substantially jeopardizing the

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Speaker 2: income of human creators over the next five years. Because

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. Why pay a human when a computer

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Speaker 2: can do it for free? So byonn from Abber, great songwriter,

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Speaker 2: has been talking about this. He's the chairman of a

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Speaker 2: group looking after the rights of artists, and he says

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Speaker 2: the problem is that AI learns to write and perform

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Speaker 2: songs by listening to streaming services, So it's stealing the

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Speaker 2: artist's intellectual property. So instead of having to go through

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Speaker 2: all the hard times, feel the blues, walk the roads,

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Speaker 2: learn the chords and all that sort of thing, the

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Speaker 2: computer just listens to Spotify and goes, oh, that's how

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Speaker 2: Beyond from Abber managed to write all those great songs.

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Speaker 2: I know how to write great songs. There's the computer.

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Speaker 2: I'll write a great song. And not only that, what

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Speaker 2: voice do I like? I'll choose that as well. Let's

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Speaker 2: just do it and they pay nothing now. Beyond from

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Speaker 2: Abber also in the report singled out Australia and New

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Speaker 2: Zealand as the only countries actively taking steps to control

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Speaker 2: the rape of creativity. Yes, I said that the rape

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Speaker 2: of creativity by AI and the tech company, So go us.

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Speaker 2: But you know, have you ever stopped and wondered whether

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Speaker 2: AI might be out of control? It isn't, because we're

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Speaker 2: in control. We make these decisions. We've decided to invent AI.

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Speaker 2: We've created AI, we use AI. We can choose to

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Speaker 2: use it. We can choose in which way to use it.

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Speaker 2: And I think the world is suddenly waking up to

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Speaker 2: the fact that some people don't choose the right way

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Speaker 2: to use it, and some people might actually use it

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Speaker 2: in a bad way, and that mister Cameron and his

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Speaker 2: film terminator wasn't awfully far away from the truth. Because

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Speaker 2: when the AI starts deciding what's the worst thing for

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Speaker 2: the planet, they may decide it's us go by or

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Speaker 2: from Abbott and think about it. And it is eight

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Speaker 2: minutes to six.

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and spit City New

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Speaker 2: It'd be I don't like to throw people under the bus,

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Speaker 2: But we were supposed to be talking to a fella

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Speaker 2: from the maritime industry about the fairies today, but the

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Speaker 2: maritime industry. Fella was not awakened, did not answer his phone,

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Speaker 2: which surprises me because I always thought the people in

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Speaker 2: the maritime industry always woke at dawn to check out

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Speaker 2: the weather conditions, to find out the prevailing wind, to

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Speaker 2: find out what's happening. But no, not in this case.

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Speaker 2: This guy obviously has become soft an office bound and

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Speaker 2: let me down. But not here, the duperc Allen is here.

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Speaker 13: No, But to be fair, to be fair, I did

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Speaker 13: walk into the studio while you're already talking.

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Speaker 2: I know, so I was late as well. Are you

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Speaker 2: having a day of it?

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Speaker 5: Are?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: There we are. It's all good. So what do you do?

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Speaker 2: You do you want to talk about your big secret

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Speaker 2: about tax and lefties and all that? Or are you

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Speaker 2: going to keep that for the audience for later?

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Speaker 13: Are you talking about Dibbingardi a packer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Oh well no, I'm happy to talk about it. Dibbing

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Speaker 13: Ardi were packers had had an absolute stellar of a

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Speaker 13: day yesterday where she announced that we would be making

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Speaker 13: if we do you know how rich we're going to

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Speaker 13: be if we're bringing the capital gains tax.

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Speaker 2: It's an extraordinary im mensely it means obviously.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, in about five years, we would bring in twenty billion, no,

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Speaker 13: two hundred billion dollars. Oh really into the country's coffers. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: which is a remarkable number because if you if you

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Speaker 13: consider it over five years, that's bought like forty million,

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Speaker 13: fifty million bucks billion sorry, every single year, the.

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Speaker 2: Entire worth of New Zealand. In fact, more there's the

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Speaker 2: entire debt of New Zealand, both government and private. It's

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Speaker 2: a big number.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think I heard Thomas Coglan from The

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Speaker 13: Herald saying yesterday that is in twenty twenty one. Remember

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Speaker 13: when we post COVID in twenty twenty one, we had

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Speaker 13: that big year of everybody buying houses. Everybody wanted to

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Speaker 13: beach house and stuff like that, so that was like

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Speaker 13: the biggest house selling year we ever had. I think

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Speaker 13: that the entire country bought about forty billion dollars worth

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Speaker 13: of housing stock in that year. So if we would

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Speaker 13: have to have for her numbers to be right, we'd

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Speaker 13: have to repeat that same year every single year, and

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Speaker 13: we would have to tax the house at one hundred percent.

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Speaker 13: So I'm feeling like Debbie's off with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, have you ever heard about the radical Left ever

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Speaker 2: being in any way, shape or form economically literate.

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Speaker 13: Well, she's not helping the case. Labor must be pulling

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Speaker 13: their hair out. But between the Greens and.

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Speaker 2: Their ideas and the left views taxes punishment. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: don't view it as revenue to actually be collective and

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Speaker 2: for us to improve ourselves, to be investment in the country.

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Speaker 2: They view it as punishment. It's all envy, and it's

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Speaker 2: all envy and punishment. It's just a different.

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Speaker 13: Perspective on money, on wealth, right, it's the collective versus

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Speaker 13: the individual. Like you make your money, you think it's yours.

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Speaker 13: You make your money, they think it's everybody's because we're

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Speaker 13: all in this.

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Speaker 2: But also, I make some money. I don't mind paying

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Speaker 2: some money so that I've got a decent road that

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a pothole that I can drive off.

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Speaker 13: I'll sell you what I'm fascinated by.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 13: We're going to have a chat to the guys from

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Speaker 13: the greyhound industry this morning, because it sounds like that

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Speaker 13: decision that that came from Winston Peters yesterday. They had

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Speaker 13: about forty five minutes heads up that that was happening there.

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Speaker 13: It's remarkable.

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Speaker 2: I talked to the SBCA. They say they've been advocating

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Speaker 2: for years.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and then all of a sudden, there have been

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Speaker 13: quite a few announcements in the last week that have

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Speaker 13: just been all of a sudden, really weird.

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Speaker 2: So Christmas got to get it over and go on holiday.

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Speaker 2: And thank you so much. Thank you to Leo and

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Speaker 2: the producer. See you tomorrow, just you and me and three.

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Speaker 13: A cozy little Christmas here with you.

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