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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: dupicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 2: News Talks that.

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Speaker 3: Be Afternoon, Welcome to the show coming up today. We've

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Speaker 3: bought choppers and planes. Judith Collins on her new kit

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Speaker 3: after five, The Mayor of Tasman on the mill shutting down,

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Speaker 3: David Seymour on why his government isn't cutting enough public servants,

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Speaker 3: and the Sky City CEO on that capital.

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Speaker 2: Rais Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say thank you to the Police Commissioner

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Speaker 3: Richard Chambers for maybe reminding us to be grateful for

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Speaker 3: what we have. He's given an interview to the Herald

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Speaker 3: today and he said he thinks there is a fair

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Speaker 3: bit of punching down going on New Zealand, punching down

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Speaker 3: thinks that's unfair. He says, with the world going a

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Speaker 3: little crazy, I count us lucky that we are where

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Speaker 3: we are now, given how much doom and gloom there

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Speaker 3: actually agrees with him. As unscientific as it is, people

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Speaker 3: rate their experience of living in New Zealand as eight

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Speaker 3: So seven, eight, nine, and ten out of ten account

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Speaker 3: half of us think that we are living in a

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: As I say, it's not un it's not scientific, but

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Speaker 3: do know how good we've got it. It's really easy

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Speaker 3: to fall into the trap of thinking the grass is

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Speaker 3: greener on the other side, which is why so many

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Speaker 3: of us are leaving heading off to places like Australia. Actually,

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Speaker 3: they are going to realize it's not that much greener.

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Speaker 3: They're going to go through the same stuff with the

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Speaker 3: Life over there is expensive as well. And if the

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Speaker 3: other side is Europe, it's definitely not greener over there.

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Speaker 3: It's actually tens of thousands of refugees arriving on your doorstep.

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Speaker 3: It's huge unrest over migrants in the it's the threat

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Speaker 3: problems there too. Now I'm not poly pollyannash at all

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Speaker 3: about New Zealand. I know life is expensive. I know

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Speaker 3: there are people who have never had to budget who

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Speaker 3: government books definitely need tidying up, and we're completely overdue

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Speaker 3: structural economic trade change. But at least most things are

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Speaker 3: headed in the right direction. Education for our kids has

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Speaker 3: balance where our kids can grow up fairly healthy. So

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Speaker 3: thank you to the Police Commissioner of all people for

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Speaker 3: reminding us of that.

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Speaker 2: Ever, do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Nils text unders standard text spees apply now. A fair

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Speaker 3: bit of chat today about what happened with the football

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Speaker 3: and pooka koee. This is the one that charged into

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Speaker 3: the jewelry shop. What happened is the football leapt from

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Speaker 3: a moving car, are headed into the jewelry shop. This

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Speaker 3: that was already in the shop. The woman who was

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Speaker 3: issued an infringement. Dog was required to be muted in muzzle.

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Speaker 3: The woman who was working in the shop with Stacy Penn. Hi, Stacy, Hi,

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Speaker 3: how are you? I'm very well? Thank you? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: The punishment for the owner was fair.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't actually why I don't because I think

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Speaker 3: What were the actions? I mean, here's the thing. I

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Speaker 3: love being tough on dogs. But did the dog bite anyone?

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Speaker 5: No, it will bit the other dog. But the fact

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Speaker 5: that she'd already been warned previously and still chose to

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Speaker 5: not the first time it's happened, is that right?

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Speaker 3: So this so okay? What had happened before this? What

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Speaker 5: According to a council. She had been warned before, as

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Speaker 3: Warned for what for the dog biting other dogs or

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Speaker 3: chasing other dogs?

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Speaker 5: Chasing?

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Speaker 3: Okay, And she had been told to muzzle the dog

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Speaker 3: in public?

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Speaker 5: Yes, she had, and they reiterated that, yet she hadn't

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Speaker 5: done it. It was actually noted as an aggressive dog. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love dogs. I've had dogs in the past,

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Speaker 5: But I think that it's just it's like being well, honestly,

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Speaker 5: if you had a toddler that has been an absolute

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Speaker 5: little bugger, would you you know, if you're in public,

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Speaker 5: would you blame the parent or the toddler? I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point. Okay, So that you say the dog

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Speaker 3: did actually bite the kaboodle, she had.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the Luckily the kaboodle was very hairy at the

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Speaker 5: time and only sustained a few nips. I got in

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Speaker 3: What would have happened if you guys weren't there to

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Speaker 3: pull the dogs apart?

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Speaker 5: I think the kaboodle would have probably been attacked severely

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Speaker 5: and bitten.

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Speaker 3: Yes, very soon, Stacey Town. I'm quite harsh on dogs

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Speaker 3: because I do have a toddler and I hate the

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Speaker 3: idea of you know, I think dogs are such a

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Speaker 3: having ignored the warning, dog was attacking another dog would

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Speaker 3: have actually bitten the dog if you guys weren't there.

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Speaker 3: All of those things make me think that dog should

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Speaker 3: have been put down?

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Speaker 5: What do you think it possibly should have been? Yes,

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Speaker 5: But I'm such a dog lover. I hate to think

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Speaker 5: of anything being put down. But if something as a

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Speaker 5: then absolutely, I mean it's just a given, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: It's a very sad thing to say it probably will

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Speaker 5: happen again because that dog is very reactive. The way

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Speaker 5: it's being managed, it obviously doesn't have boundaries of safe

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Speaker 5: space and discipline. I'm not saying you should hate your dog,

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Speaker 5: but there are definitely things you can place to make

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Speaker 5: your dog less reactive to people. The fact that this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's pretty fall on.

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Speaker 5: Just it wasn't just walking down the road on a leash,

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Speaker 5: saw a dog that had a sniff.

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Speaker 7: And then they both went to it.

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Speaker 5: This dog actually jumped out of a moving car across

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Speaker 5: the busy road and Pokacoe came into an establishment and

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Speaker 5: attacked a little kaboodle. Would you imagine had that dog

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Speaker 5: being with a owner who had a toddler with that dog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and well exactly would you if you wouldn't go

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Speaker 3: as far as I would and putting the dog down,

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Speaker 3: would you at least take the dog off the owner?

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Speaker 5: I would make her go through extremely intensive dog training

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Speaker 5: and see if that dog is going to be rehabilitated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: In the past, I've actually had the blessing of having

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Speaker 5: an exciting dog. I got approached by somebody who saw

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Speaker 5: me on Facebook because I am very loved dogs, and

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Speaker 5: that dog now or she was sorry she's passed once

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Speaker 5: she learned that she didn't have to fight for food,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point. Hey, Stacy, thanks very much,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it and look after yourself. Stacy Penn, former Michael

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Speaker 3: Hill employee. World Boxing is introducing rules to make sure

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Speaker 3: that their female boxers carry female chromosomes. Now, you'll remember,

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Speaker 3: of that drama, what they're going to do is introduce

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Speaker 3: mandatory testing. National teams will now be required to provide

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Speaker 3: chromosomal certification or face sanctions under the new policy. And

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Speaker 3: this probably means well, no, it does mean that the

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Speaker 3: Algerian boxer will not be able to compete until she

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Speaker 9: Hey, heare here, you going and very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. So Auckland's got a lady team, have they

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven seven, twenty eight?

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Speaker 9: have a women's team and the A League. I wonder

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Speaker 9: if the women's A League is still going in two years.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, no, the A League full stops about Wobbley, right,

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Speaker 4: so the boys too?

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Speaker 9: at will survive. It's probably got more growth in thean

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Speaker 9: men quite frankly, but they've not done a thought maybe

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Speaker 9: next year, but it's come out now that Nope, we're waiting.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be two you So twenty seven, twenty eight.

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Speaker 9: That will be lovely, thank you very much. So it's

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Speaker 9: good news coming out of Aka. You've see a lot

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Speaker 9: of football news around this week, new signings, new players.

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Speaker 9: It's a football and netball's been all the flavor. The

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Speaker 3: What's going on with girls dropping out so much faster

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Speaker 3: than boys when it's you know that teenage sport age.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm hopefully going to find out more about this.

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Speaker 9: There's been a study that's come out a sports psychologists

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Speaker 9: called Don Vertisse, and he's going to join us on

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Speaker 9: the show up after seven o'clock. The study says that

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Speaker 9: ninety five percent of girls ages eleven to seventeen aren't

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Speaker 9: active enough, and by age fourteen, girls are dropping out

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Speaker 9: of sport at twice the rate of boys. Should we

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Speaker 4: Who's responsible for this?

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Speaker 9: Active kids are very, very important. So we'll be talking

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's plenty of boys Bobby too, but encourage

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Speaker 9: Let's get to the tab where, of course, we always

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Speaker 9: bet responsibly. This is my tip for you this week.

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Speaker 10: Fail up.

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Speaker 9: We get this though, right. The English women are favorites

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Speaker 10: I get that.

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Speaker 3: In my opinions, just a couple of moms, very.

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Speaker 9: Very good and they're just across the ditch from home.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Darcy, appreciate it. He'll be back. Darcy wautographs

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Speaker 2: They'd be either.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the nutrient cost of a dog is

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Speaker 3: Penny Henade has caused a bit of trouble, isn't he.

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Speaker 3: He was at a debate last night because he's standing

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Speaker 11: You repeal the gang patch law if you was come

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Speaker 10: Yes or no?

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Speaker 3: The Deputy leader, Carmel Sepalone said he got a bit confused.

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Speaker 2: He's the he's on.

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Speaker 12: The campaign trail, and you know, occasionally things are said.

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Speaker 12: There's certainly no need for a telling off here. I

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Speaker 3: Twice time flies and only twice.

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile.

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Speaker 2: New Saw said be.

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Speaker 3: Here that these people don't new to their dogs because

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Speaker 3: buffpead stuff or John. Thank you for explaining that everything

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Speaker 3: makes a lot more sense now. Actually, we've got another

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Speaker 3: on first to September. Decision made on fourth of September.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks, Eddy Drive So.

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Speaker 3: Israeli troops have moved into the outskirts of Gaza City.

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Speaker 3: Sixty thousand reservists have been called up to allow active

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Speaker 3: Russia's foreign minister has weighed in on the latest round

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Speaker 15: Seriously discussing security issues without the Russian Federation is a utopia,

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Speaker 3: And finally, a YouTuber in China has built a miniature

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Speaker 9: Four months to build a subway system for cat Town,

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Speaker 1: And international correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace of

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Speaker 3: Murray Old's Australia correspondent, he does very good afternoons.

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Speaker 10: Speaking of weird years.

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Speaker 3: There you go speaking off with Nittya, who's had another

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Speaker 13: He says that the Prime Minister here, Albanzi a political

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Speaker 13: It's not pleasing to have two very long and strong

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Speaker 13: A badge of honor almost that he's there with Canada,

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Speaker 10: The United Nations, we recognize a Palestinian state.

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Speaker 3: What are we expecting out of this economic groundtable.

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Speaker 10: But look.

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Speaker 13: dribble out. But the big news this week is a

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Speaker 13: major reform of the National Disability Insurance scheme. It's going

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Speaker 13: to be tightened to rain in exploding costs. There are

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Speaker 13: huge numbers of children diagnosed with mild autism or developed

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Speaker 13: develop mental delays, and these children who you know, I

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Speaker 13: needy kids, no doubt about it. But what they're doing

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Speaker 13: is putting extreme financial pressure on a scheme here that

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Speaker 13: that wasn't intended originally to support people with severe and

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Speaker 13: lifelong disabilities. Think, you know the guys and girls in wheelchairs,

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Speaker 13: for example, amputees have been injured in the workplace accident,

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Speaker 13: not children who are having.

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Speaker 10: Trouble at school.

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Speaker 13: So what the government's proposing here is a separate scheme

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Speaker 13: to start from mid twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 10: It's called Thriving Kids.

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Speaker 13: It's going to be funded jointly by the states and

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Speaker 13: by the federal government.

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Speaker 10: I'll just give you a quick couple of stats.

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Speaker 13: Three quarters of a million people are now getting financial

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Speaker 13: support from the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 13: One hundred thousand joined the scheme last year, seventy percent

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Speaker 13: with children under fifteen. And I mean those conditions autism,

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Speaker 13: mild autism and so on were previously diagnosed and treated

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Speaker 13: by general practice. The government says, unless they rain and

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Speaker 13: spending and wind back some of the stuff, the ndis

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Speaker 13: in ten years time is going to cost more than defense,

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Speaker 13: Aged care and medicare combined over.

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Speaker 10: One hundred and five billion dollars a year. Unsustainable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. What do you make of Queensland's government selling

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Speaker 3: meetings with ministers to businesses.

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Speaker 10: Cheeky made cheeky. They haven't been in power for ten years, right, So.

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Speaker 13: David Christopher Foley, I've got the big you know, the

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Speaker 13: first the first national state convention in government for a decade.

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Speaker 10: So on the eve of this convention, they had a

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Speaker 10: big powerwell today in Brisbane. And guess what.

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Speaker 13: And I'll tell you that this is fifteen minute meetings

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Speaker 13: for a minister.

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Speaker 10: It might be the health minister.

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Speaker 13: Okay, it's going to cost you ten thousand dollars basically,

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Speaker 13: And all sorts of people were signing up for this.

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Speaker 13: Mining companies, business leaders, insurance companies, the Australian newspapers, there's

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Speaker 13: even publicans and botox clinics were spending money.

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Speaker 10: I was spending ten fifteen minutes to say, buddy, hell

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Speaker 10: I got a great botox clinic. Dam don't shut me down.

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Speaker 13: All lining up to bend the minister really is The

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Speaker 13: invitation was leaked, you know, and the ministers were to

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Speaker 13: be numbered in order of preference. So I mean, basically,

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Speaker 13: David Cristoph Fooley, he's led the coloristion to power. Last

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Speaker 13: October they won fifty two out of ninety three seats,

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Speaker 13: tossing out labor. As I say, labor was on the

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Speaker 13: nose big time, so they're going to make hay with

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Speaker 13: the sunshines. If you want to see a minister on

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Speaker 13: this one day, only ten thousand dollars fifteen minutes seems dodgy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much, Mars appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia.

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Speaker 2: Correspondent Heather Duper s La.

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Speaker 3: Heather, would you pay twenty dollars for a foot long subway? Tom?

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you asked that question. It is in the

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Speaker 3: Herald because Rafael from the Herald has gone and bought

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Speaker 3: himself a subway sandwich, a full a foot long chicken

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Speaker 3: pepperoni sub and has been shocked at the fact that

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Speaker 3: it's cost twenty dollars, which actually I think, Oh, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it's a Herald story, but hear it

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Speaker 3: as we are discussing, and I do think it is

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Speaker 3: a question though, because Sam, the producer, came in I

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Speaker 3: think it might have been Monday, actually it was this week,

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Speaker 3: came in with a subway and told us that he'd

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Speaker 3: paid twenty dollars for it, and we will shocked, So

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Speaker 3: he must have ordered the same thing. That's a shocking

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Speaker 3: price for a for a sandwich, isn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a shocking price for a sandwich, but you'd expect

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Speaker 3: it to be a gourmet sandwich. You wouldn't expect it

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Speaker 3: to be just a subbers Would you like that? That

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Speaker 3: is far too much? Well, I mean I think have we.

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Speaker 3: What I don't understand about this is that first of all,

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Speaker 3: Sam paid it, because at that point I think I

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Speaker 3: might have gone on, ah, you can keep it, that's

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Speaker 3: all right, I'm just going to get some sushi, which

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Speaker 3: is healthier for you and cheaper. But then he went

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Speaker 3: back two days later and did it again. So I

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Speaker 3: don't this. I don't understand anyway. I think this has

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Speaker 3: gone I think subway has gone bonkers. I also think

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Speaker 3: that lunch prices have gone bonkers, because actually you'd struggle

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Speaker 3: to find anything under about twelve dollars in the central city.

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Speaker 3: Can I give you a tip? This is the other

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Speaker 3: day the husband went and discovered the absolute bargain lunch

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Speaker 3: in central Auckland. If you go to Woolworth's they have

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Speaker 3: a DEALI and if you've got a good Woolworth's, it

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Speaker 3: will have a sandwich in the DEALI and they make

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Speaker 3: the most epic sandwiches in the Woolworth's delly. And today

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Speaker 3: today I had a chicken at Cranberry cam and beer.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I mean, it's like it's two

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Speaker 3: thousand and two and I was still eating the same sandwich.

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Speaker 3: But I had one of those. And do you know

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Speaker 3: how much it cost me? Six dollars? Six dollars And

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Speaker 3: then you bring it into the toaster of working, you

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Speaker 3: toast the life out of it. Dang, who has a

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Speaker 3: lunch for six dollars? Nowadays Woolworths, does You're welcome Quarter two.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centrics Credit, check your customers and get payments?

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Speaker 2: Certainty?

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Speaker 3: Right, Barryso for senior political correspondence with US Hallo, Barry,

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Heather. Okay, so we've got the big big

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Speaker 3: defense spend announced.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes it is, and those seven five sevens are

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Speaker 4: finally going to be replaced. Thank goodness for that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I've traveled, I've almost got a gold card on those things.

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Speaker 4: I've traveled on them since they got them virtually and

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Speaker 4: you know, the breaking down of them could never you

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Speaker 4: could never be assured of having a faultless trip, so

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Speaker 4: they're going. But the money for those will be spent

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Speaker 4: in Europe, which is interesting because they're rear bussers. But

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Speaker 4: if you look at the Seahawk helicopters, they're going to

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Speaker 4: get five of those. Now that's lockeed Martin, which is

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Speaker 4: of course an American company, And asked Judith Collins, I

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Speaker 4: know you're going to be talking to her after five o'clock,

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Speaker 4: but she was asked today if this could be used

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Speaker 4: as a sweetener by our trade minister Tod McClay, who

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Speaker 4: just happens to be in Washington today to talk about

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Speaker 4: those fifteen percent tariffs. Judith Colins says she wouldn't presume

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Speaker 4: to tell mister McLay what to do.

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Speaker 16: I don't know because I'm not his mother and I

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Speaker 16: haven't told him what to do. Well, number one, we

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Speaker 16: never discussed what goes on cabinet number two, As Minister

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Speaker 16: Peter's rightly said in one of my own survival mechanisms

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Speaker 16: is to stay in my own lane. But I think

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Speaker 16: it is obvious that we are buying the best equipment

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Speaker 16: that we can for our people with the money we

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Speaker 16: have available to meet our needs and our interoperability requirements.

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Speaker 16: So in terms of that, that will be up to

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Speaker 16: the Minister for Trade, who I have to say is

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Speaker 16: doing an outstanding job and doesn't need my guidance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Donald Trump will be happy, although it won't

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Speaker 4: make up that deficit in terms of trade worth three

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Speaker 4: and a half billion dollars in credit to America. So

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Speaker 4: we're not going to spend the night.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, is it three and a half billion annually?

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Speaker 4: It swept three and a half billion the last figures

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Speaker 4: that was annually.

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Speaker 3: I think it's annually, right, So if you do it

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Speaker 3: on a monthly basis we might be okay with.

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Speaker 4: If Tom McLay could be persuasive, but I doubt it somehow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully fingers cross. What's labor strategy for winning next year?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's really interesting, isn't it that, Chris. There's been

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Speaker 4: a lot of talk about labor really doing very little,

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Speaker 4: and it's true, no policy letting the government they would

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Speaker 4: say hang themselves. Well, Chris Hipkins admitted today that they

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Speaker 4: weren't prepared enough for the government when Winston Peters handed

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Speaker 4: the reins over to Jacinda durn in twenty seventeen. But

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Speaker 4: if you listen on Carie Woodham show this morning. They're

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Speaker 4: not going to make that mistake again.

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Speaker 17: We weren't as well prepared for being in government in

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Speaker 17: twenty seventeen as we need it to be, and I

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Speaker 17: think I was more prepared than some of the others.

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Speaker 17: But I'm determined as a leader of the party that

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Speaker 17: next time around our MPs will all be ready. You know,

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Speaker 17: we're doing a lot of professional development with our team,

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Speaker 17: you know, getting people, getting external people, and this government

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Speaker 17: to some extender. As bad as our government was in

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Speaker 17: promising things which they haven't been able to deliver.

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Speaker 3: Well, he hasn't got to Willow Jean yet, has he.

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Speaker 4: Well he also hasn't got to Penny Henada.

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Speaker 18: No.

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Speaker 4: You know, here's Henad saying quite categorically at that debate

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Speaker 4: last night that gang patches will be back on the

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Speaker 4: gang members' backs after the next Telee.

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Speaker 3: Can you just really quickly, just really quickly explain to

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Speaker 3: me the calculation. Why do they chase ten thousand gang

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Speaker 3: votes at the expense of what must be so many

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Speaker 3: more normal people votes.

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Speaker 4: I do not know. I mean, you could say, and

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Speaker 4: I heard your postulation on this that normally a person

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Speaker 4: speaks to the truth when they say at first yes,

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Speaker 4: and then now they've had time to sort of cover

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Speaker 4: it up. But look, that to me has to be

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Speaker 4: Labor Party policy. I mean, why would Penny Henarde say

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Speaker 4: it quite what I'm saying immediately and without hesitating.

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Speaker 3: Speak the truth the first time round?

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Speaker 10: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's happening to the ability to take strike action?

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly Brook van Valden is playing a funny game,

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Speaker 4: I think, and it was the teacher strike of course.

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Speaker 10: Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Van Walden was pressed further by Labour's Jantinetti in Parliament

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Speaker 4: this afternoon about the government's plans for strikes and given

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Speaker 4: the teachers union strikes, But in my view she was

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Speaker 4: being altogether too smart. See what you think.

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Speaker 19: I cannot rule in around future changes in any policy area,

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Speaker 19: because government decisions are made at cabinet.

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Speaker 20: Will the government introduce barriers such as mandatory mediation periods

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Speaker 20: prior to people being legally able to strike?

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Speaker 19: I would highly suspect if the question keeps going down

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Speaker 19: this line, you might be starting to give the government.

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Speaker 20: A lot of thoughts. Will the government introduce limitations on

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Speaker 20: when strikes can start, such as only allowing strikes during

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Speaker 20: the school holidays.

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Speaker 19: The member may wish to stop giving other colleagues of

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Speaker 19: mine some ideas.

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Speaker 3: She's got your go to, Brook's got your go to.

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Speaker 4: She did get irritated you being a smarter just the

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Speaker 4: question I.

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Speaker 3: Can tell Barry, thanks very much. Bary Soper, Senior political correspondent,

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Speaker 3: eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast to the.

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Speaker 21: Wonderful world of the Central Bank. In their view of

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Speaker 21: where we're asked, Christian hawksby acting Reserve Bank Governor's back

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Speaker 21: with us.

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Speaker 18: It's really been the economy stalling over this QU two

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Speaker 18: that's revised down, and that's what we're responding to.

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Speaker 2: The Q two.

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Speaker 21: A lot of people saw it coming and were yelling

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Speaker 21: and you didn't. How come you didn't see it?

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Speaker 18: Well, we saw some of that come through in the

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Speaker 18: early phase and we indicated that there was some signs.

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Speaker 18: The essence the there's been even more signed. So we've

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Speaker 18: got more confidence that we can lower rate. So we

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Speaker 18: can lower them very quite great.

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Speaker 2: Here, but you should have done that already.

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Speaker 22: We just look forward.

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Speaker 5: From where we are is all we can do.

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Speaker 21: We play the ball in front of us back tomorrow

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Speaker 21: at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida

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Speaker 21: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: The'd be listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get you across what David Seymore said

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Speaker 3: and just to Tick just needs to draw your attention

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Speaker 3: to something. There is another debate around suppression laws that

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Speaker 3: is happening at the moment because of the case of

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Speaker 3: a wealthy a member of a very wealthy Kiwi family

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Speaker 3: who has just been convicted of having pretty extreme child

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Speaker 3: abuse material. And this person has had his name suppressed. Now,

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Speaker 3: his name, his family's name, their high profile company all

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Speaker 3: permanently suppressed. According to the NBR who's been reporting on it.

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Speaker 3: He's gone to jail. He's also been placed on the

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Speaker 3: Child's sex offender register. Now I don't know the reasons

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Speaker 3: for the suppression. This hasn't been made clear, but you

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Speaker 3: would have to assume it's got something to do with

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Speaker 3: the fact that it would impact on everybody around him

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Speaker 3: and the business and stuff because of how high profile

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Speaker 3: he is. This is where it's become really tricky. Somebody

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Speaker 3: has gone on Grock, which is Twitter's AI chatbot, and

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Speaker 3: ask Groc who it is, and Groc has come back

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Speaker 3: and said it's Wainwright, as in like the right family,

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Speaker 3: as in the best start people. So it's just like

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Speaker 3: and not just once, not just in one mistake. Has

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Speaker 3: repeatedly answered the question with, well, it appears to be Waynwright,

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Speaker 3: who's been convicted. Here wain Wright says, this is not

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Speaker 3: Wayne right, he's sitting there, he's not in jail at

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Speaker 3: the moment, so it can't be him. He has said,

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Speaker 3: whoever it is ought to come clean with who it is,

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Speaker 3: no matter the consequence, basically name themselves because as he

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Speaker 3: points out, and this isn't this is This is an

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Speaker 3: interesting take on the name suppression debate. Because this person

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Speaker 3: has had their names suppressed, there are not that many

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Speaker 3: high profile, wealthy families. It creates speculation about who it

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Speaker 3: can be, and so everybody else who's innocent get their

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Speaker 3: names drawn into this when it's not them. So it

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Speaker 3: doesn't just affect the family of the center of it,

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Speaker 3: the person at the center of it, but everybody else

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Speaker 3: around there is well anyway, I'd imagine that that that's

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Speaker 3: going to cause all kinds of trouble. Customs, by the way,

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Speaker 3: may appeal the name suppression and may get it lifted,

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Speaker 3: and it feels like there may be a case for that. Davidson. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to deal with him in the next half hour.

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Speaker 3: Next up, let's talk to Judith Collins about replacing the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister's planes and then also the shutting down of

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Speaker 3: that mill in Tasman. Newstorgs be.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try the truck to

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Speaker 1: ask the questions, you get the answers, find the fag

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Speaker 1: and give the analysis. Here the duplicy ell and drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile.

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Speaker 2: New Doorgs V afternoon.

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Speaker 3: After years of embarrassing breakdowns, the Prime Minister's planes are

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Speaker 3: being replaced. The two old seven five sevens will be

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Speaker 3: replaced by two Airbus A three two one planes. We're

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Speaker 3: also buying five new Seahawk helicopters equipped with anti submarine

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Speaker 3: torpedo systems, how fire missiles and machine guns. And the

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Speaker 3: total bill comes to two point seven billion dollars. Judith

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Speaker 3: Collins is the defensemanis to hi, Judith, Oh, Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 3: how far can these new Prime ministerial planes go?

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Speaker 7: Well, they can go from Auckland to Singapore and one go.

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Speaker 7: They can also go from christ Church to the Antarctic

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Speaker 7: and come back without having to land. So that's the

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Speaker 7: situation if there's a whiteout or a major problem down

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Speaker 7: when our pilots get down to Antarctica at the moment

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Speaker 7: there's a point of no return. And this time, once

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Speaker 7: these are in place, they'll be able to go down

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Speaker 7: there and come back if they have to without loss

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Speaker 7: of life.

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Speaker 3: So if they can go to Singapore, does that mean

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Speaker 3: you can get to Europe in just two flights?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, well I don't know if it's quite Europe

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Speaker 7: in that time, but certainly all of Asia and the

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Speaker 7: Pacific it's a huge amount better. And of course it's

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Speaker 7: not only for the delegations. A lot of this is

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Speaker 7: around our movement of troops and bringing people for a space.

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Speaker 3: Why not go boeing?

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Speaker 7: Well, there are reasons for it, and the reasons that

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Speaker 7: we're put up is that this is the longest range

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Speaker 7: that we could have for the narrow body of the

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Speaker 7: aircraft and that within our price range. In addition to that,

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Speaker 7: it's the ability to go to and from Antarctica all

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Speaker 7: in one go is unbelievably important.

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Speaker 3: When are they arriving are we.

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Speaker 7: Think probably about early twenty twenty eight and what we're

745
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Speaker 7: doing is we're a bit faster than some people getting

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Speaker 7: them because we're doing this lester to buy program with

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Speaker 7: a very large supplier or someone who buys an awful

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Speaker 7: lot of brand new planes, and so we're on that

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Speaker 7: sort of system, so we can get them a bit earlier,

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Speaker 7: and it apparently works out quite a lot cheaper if

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Speaker 7: we do it that way.

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Speaker 3: Now, when we finally get around to paying for the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks and we're buying them modestly from the US, do

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Speaker 3: you think the US will rethink their tariffs against US?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, it's up to them obviously, but I

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Speaker 7: think the pointer is with the Seahawks is wouldn't be

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Speaker 7: looked at all of the defense I should say, looked

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Speaker 7: at all of the options around which helicopters to get

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Speaker 7: maritime for what we need for interoperability with Australia. But

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Speaker 7: also these these ones don't need us to do very

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Speaker 7: much at all when it comes to each changes to

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Speaker 7: the ships or other ships that we might get in

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Speaker 7: the future. They're very easy for us. And you know, look,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that US will make their own decisions. The

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Speaker 7: point is is that we've got to get the right

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Speaker 7: equipment for defense.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how much more were you prepared to pay the teachers?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, it's not really up to me. They need

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Speaker 7: My answer is always get back to the bargaining table.

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Speaker 7: And I'm just the Public Services Minister. But my view

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Speaker 7: is you cannot. You cannot bargain with people who's first

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Speaker 7: instinct is to get out and strike work.

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Speaker 3: Judith, I mean they did one day of strikes and

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Speaker 3: then Brian Roach said all right, we'll pay you more.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm not sure that he said that. I think

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Speaker 7: he said get back for bagging table, and I think

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Speaker 7: that's the message to anybody.

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Speaker 10: Well, he said that the.

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Speaker 3: Payoff would go up, he said it wasn't good enough

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Speaker 3: and it would go on.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know, but I mean other point is

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Speaker 7: I'm focused on defense today and national security, and I'd

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Speaker 7: say to anybody just get to the bag being table

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Speaker 7: and please please don't organize all your marketing and strikes

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Speaker 7: before you've ever heard an offer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Judith is and thanks very much, Judith Collins, Defense

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Speaker 3: Minister and also minister. But does it sound to you

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Speaker 3: like Judith was surprised by that. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: Brian had told Judith that he said this yesterday eleven.

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Speaker 2: Past five, Heather duplessy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Yet another mill is likely to close. This time it's

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Speaker 3: Carter hold Harvey's Eves Valley sawmill near Nelson. One hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty two jobs could be lost if this does happen.

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Speaker 3: Tasman mayor Tim King lives next door to the mill

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Speaker 3: and he's with us now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tim, Hey, here you go.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well. Thank you, Tim. It doesn't sound like

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Speaker 3: this time it is related to the price of energy.

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Speaker 3: It just sounds like the co o omeil is very efficient. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, I mean this is just a pure business decision.

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Speaker 11: This is a very efficient saw mill. There's actually been

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Speaker 11: a lot invested it in the last five years to

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Speaker 11: make it as efficient as possible. It's just that Carroerra

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Speaker 11: was more efficient and they obviously want to source all

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Speaker 11: their sown timber from a single location. So yep, not

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Speaker 11: due to energy prices or anything to do with this

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Speaker 11: mill itself. Just so happens there's one mill that's more

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Speaker 11: efficient than this one.

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Speaker 3: Which says to me then that it's probably a case

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Speaker 3: of you guys not being able to change their minds.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: From the conversations I've had over the course of today

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Speaker 11: that that's absolutely the perception I've got. There's no chance

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Speaker 11: of this decision changing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well tell me you know for your area, how

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Speaker 3: devastating is the loss of one hundred and forty two jobs.

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Speaker 11: It's very significant and it's so Obviously the most significant

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Speaker 11: impact and most immediate is on those one hundred and

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Speaker 11: forty two people directly employed at these valley but there

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Speaker 11: is a wide range of other businesses that support these

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Speaker 11: valley saw mill. It's a big component of the forestry

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Speaker 11: sector in this region. So it's a very significant impact.

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Speaker 3: So if it does go ahead, and it sounds like

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Speaker 3: it's going to what happens to the land next to you?

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Speaker 11: Again, my understanding is it's going to be retained in

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Speaker 11: the ownership of card Holt Harvey. The mill will be mothboard,

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Speaker 11: The recently installed equipment is likely to be disassembled in

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Speaker 11: ship to Carrell or another location, and this land will

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Speaker 11: ultimately the fate of it will be decided by Cardholt

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Speaker 11: Harvey at some point in time.

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Speaker 3: All right, Tim, thanks for talking to us. Appreciate it,

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Speaker 3: Tim King Tasman.

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Speaker 2: Mayor together do for cel.

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Speaker 3: You will have seen the legislation's past, which means that

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Speaker 3: you can talk about how much you're being paid. We're

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Speaker 3: going to deal with that next. Can I just say

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Speaker 3: It is Amelia Walmsley who is, apparently it's understood, heading

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844
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Speaker 3: Heather Amelia Wormsley is going to the stars, not overseas.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for correcting, but still the Pulse of Loster,

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Speaker 3: haven't they? So spare a thought for the pulse? Seventeen

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Speaker 3: past five. Now you can officially tell anyone right now

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Speaker 3: how you going. I'm well, thank you. So if you've

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Speaker 3: you can now just ignore it.

875
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 23: Well to a certain extent, the law prohibits the new

876
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 23: law prohibits employers from taking adverse action that's defined in

877
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 23: the act, and essentially it's basically stopping you from being

878
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 23: promoted or afforded the same terms and conditions of other employees.

879
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 23: There are potentially actions that employers could take in terms

880
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 23: of breach of contract if they felt like they were

881
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 23: damaged by an employee disclosing their remuneration. That'll be something

882
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 23: interesting in terms of how case law develops.

883
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: What do you foresee them what would be the reason

884
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: for them being able to do that.

885
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 23: Well, perhaps if an employee disclose that in bad faith,

886
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 23: maybe to a competitor or something to try and undermine

887
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 23: an employer's business, that could be something that an employer

888
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 23: might choose to take action against. But it sort of

889
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 23: prevents basically employees from not having the same terms and

890
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 23: conditions as other employees and their employment might have.

891
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: Do you think employers have to brace themselves now for

892
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of grumpy employees turning up because they've

893
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: been sharing their payover office strengths.

894
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 23: I think the first question is will people actually change

895
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 23: their behavior in terms of disclosing their pay. Obviously some

896
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 23: employers have these clauses, but They're not particularly common. It's

897
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 23: not something I see a lot in my practice, and

898
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 23: I think we already have a bit of a culture

899
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 23: in terms of your pay is private for a lot

900
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 23: of people, and they don't necessarily disclose that to other employees.

901
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 23: Now the people may feel a little bit more freedom

902
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 23: to ask, but you don't have to share. But people

903
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 23: may choose this year and then Yeah, employers may face

904
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 23: some difficult conversations where they might have to justify their

905
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 23: decisions as to why someone's paid different.

906
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: But they can they though, Jordan, because what if you

907
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: go to the boss and you go, well, Laura is

908
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: getting paid more than me, and I don't think that's fair.

909
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: Can the boss actually tell you why they're paying Laura

910
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: more or is that is there a privacy privacy problem there?

911
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 23: Well, I think it really comes down to why they're

912
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 23: paying Lawa more than someone else, and they probably should

913
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 23: more focus on your performance and the reasons why you

914
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 23: are paid what you are paid.

915
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: Which is a very bumming out conversation, isn't it.

916
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 23: Yeah, to an extent, it's sort of hard to say, well,

917
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 23: Laura is better at a job than you, or Laura

918
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 23: Laura smashes it it's probably more to say, you know,

919
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 23: there's some areas you can improve if you want to

920
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 23: get paid. But there are obviously a range of factors.

921
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 23: You know, it can be performance, it can come down

922
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 23: to whether someone was you know, poach from a competitor.

923
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 23: And sometimes you just got to pay more when you

924
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 23: go to the market than what you might be paying

925
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 23: a current employee, for example.

926
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Speaker 3: It'd be so nally Jordan, thanks very much, appreciate it,

927
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Speaker 3: Jordan Boyle, Employment lawyer, Die Berg Drayton Law. I think

928
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: employers need this like a hole in the head. I'll

929
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: tell you what actually something else that people need like it.

930
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: This is Nikola Willison needs this like a hole in

931
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: the head. David seymour Is. He's not named it, but

932
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: he's basically taken a crack at her. He's complaining that

933
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 3: Nikola Willison National haven't cut enough public servants.

934
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 24: I believe that there's still too many people and we're

935
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 24: not necessarily delivering better services than in twenty seventeen.

936
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: And basically spending too much money.

937
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 24: This government is not saving money as aggressively as the

938
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 24: act Party would.

939
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 3: Well now I don't know how long he can carry

940
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: this on for because he's part of the government and

941
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: if you're going to blame Nikola Willison National, you're gonna

942
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: blame him too because he's failed to deliver. But anyway,

943
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: he's with us in about fifteen minutes time and we'll

944
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: ask him that five twenty one.

945
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: The name you trumped to get the answers you need,

946
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: it's Heather dupicl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

947
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: like no one else.

948
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Scuse DOGSV It's.

949
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: Five twenty four. Listen, I need to talk about this

950
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: pitbull situation which has been getting a fair bit of

951
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: discussion today on the station. Auckland Counsel, in my opinion,

952
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: has absolutely not gone hard enough on the owner and

953
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: the dog here. So what's happened if you haven't caught

954
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: up on this, is that last August there was a

955
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 3: woman called Stacy Penn was working in the Michael Hill

956
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: jewelry store in Pokakoe, south of Auckland, and at this

957
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: point in time she's coupling. Her friends come in brought

958
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: the kavoodle and she's busy coupling the little caveroodle. Right

959
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: then a pitbull jumps out of a car driving down

960
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: the road outside. The football runs into the store, starts

961
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: trying to attack the little dog. Stacy manages to keep

962
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: the dogs apart, but she says the football does manage

963
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 3: to bite the smaller dog, and then while she's holding

964
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: the pit bull, lunges so aggressively that it tears her

965
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: rotator cuff. Now Auckland Council's punishment was to issue the

966
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: owner of the pit bull and infringement for failing to

967
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: keep it under control, give the owner education on how

968
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: to prevent it happening in the future, require the dog

969
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: to be newted and to wear a muzzle in public,

970
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: but basically get on, get on with just living with

971
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: the dog, you know, living the best life with the dog. Again.

972
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: What we now learn though, is that the dog was

973
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: already under instructions to be muzzled in public and wasn't,

974
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 3: and that this is not the first time it has happened,

975
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: in which case I think Auckland Council should just basically

976
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: draw a line under it and say no more warnings

977
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: a dog that bites as a dog that bites, and

978
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: take the dog away from the owner, which clearly has

979
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: lost the privilege of having a dog if you can't

980
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: muzzle the dog, and if the if the owner can't

981
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: muzzle the dog in public and then given no one

982
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: else will want this pitbull, just take it and put

983
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: it down. Auckland Council does not go hard enough on

984
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: dog attacks. In April, remember there was the story about

985
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: the dog that attacked the girl in the park. The

986
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: council took the dog and then basically just give the dog,

987
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: gave the dog back to its owners. That is a

988
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: slam dunk case of where a dog should be put down.

989
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: If a dog attacks a kid, put the dog down.

990
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: The council is desperate right now to get some good

991
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: media coverage for dog prosecutions because the number of prosecutions

992
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: is going up, and I do appreciate that from the council,

993
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: But until they are prepared to put down day jerious

994
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: dogs and confiscate dangerous dogs from bad owners, they will

995
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: simply not be doing enough.

996
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: Ever do for see Allen Hey.

997
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Something that has got a little bit of chat in

998
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 3: Wellington actually today is the Wellington Eatery two Gray, which

999
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: is the one that's below the Intercontinental Hotel. What they're

1000
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: doing at two Gray is they're asking people if people

1001
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: want to take Yeah, sometimes you order a meal and

1002
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: it's bigger than you expecting. You want to take the

1003
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: leftover's home in a doggy bag, they say if people

1004
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: want to If people want to take the left covers home,

1005
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 3: they have to sign date and time stamp in agreement

1006
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: before they are allowed to do this. This is what

1007
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: it says. In taking away the food detailed below, you

1008
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: acknowledge that you should be responsible for the safe transportation

1009
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: and storage of the food and understand that the agreement

1010
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: is on the basis that we accept no liability in

1011
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: respect of the food once it's removed from the premises.

1012
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 3: As with any food taken away from the hotel, we

1013
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: recommend it as eaten as soon as possible or refrigerated

1014
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: at or below five degrees celsius within four hours of preparation.

1015
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: Now I don't know about you, but that seems over

1016
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: the top, doesn't it, Because I mean, when, like, how

1017
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: often have you taken something home just left it, left

1018
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: it on the counter overnight and then eating it the

1019
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: next morning. You'll be fine, right, You don't have to

1020
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: actually like this. This business is of refrigerating everything to

1021
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 3: within an inch of its life is just silly anyway,

1022
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: because I think it is over the top. I'm gonna

1023
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: ak and I have quite relaxed standards when it comes

1024
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: to food. I'm not gonna lie, you know, on the floor.

1025
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: Good to go, so anyway, because I'm a bit loose

1026
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: with that, we'll ask the Huddle their opinion. By the way.

1027
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: On the speaking of which, on the sandwiches, remember the

1028
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: food town sandwiches wolworth sandwiches. At around two o'clock in

1029
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: the afternoon, Apparently they get discounted by Woolworth's to three dollars,

1030
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: which is when you need to go and buy them,

1031
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 3: save them for the next day and have them for lunch.

1032
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: Us us next on your smart speaker, on the iHeart

1033
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: app and in your car on your drive home. It's

1034
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen Dry with one New Zealand had the

1035
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: power of satellite mobile news talks, they'd be.

1036
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 22: Right.

1037
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: Spar City has gone to the Capital Rays as we

1038
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: expected they would with us after six o'clock. Huddle is

1039
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 3: standing by Heather. The same thing happened to my dog.

1040
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: He got attacked October twenty twenty four this last year

1041
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: March this year, attacking dog got given back to the

1042
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: owner with conditions. Three weeks ago, attacked my dog again.

1043
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: Now the owner has hidden his dog. Come on Auckland Council. Wait,

1044
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's Auckland Council. Might be a

1045
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: different council atogether. Just go a bit harder on today

1046
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: twenty five away from six. Now the Finance Minister spending

1047
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: is coming under further pressure, this time from within cabinet.

1048
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: David Seymour has now called out National and Nichola Willis

1049
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: for not cutting more public servants.

1050
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 24: I believe that there's still too many people and we're

1051
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 24: not necessarily delivering better services than in twenty seventeen.

1052
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: And also for not cutting enough spending.

1053
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 24: All together, this government is not saving money as aggressively

1054
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 24: as the ACT Party would.

1055
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 3: So let's have a chat to him. David, Hello, hey,

1056
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: so is it National that's not allowing you to cut

1057
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: the public servants you want to cut?

1058
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 10: Well?

1059
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 8: I never point fingers at people. I mean we're part

1060
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 8: of a government, we work together. But I think anyone

1061
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 8: who is familiar with the angle that the different parties

1062
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 8: took in the Act Party left a receipt which was

1063
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 8: our alternative budget where we said that we wanted to

1064
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 8: reduce the number of public servants back to pre labor levels,

1065
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 8: and we also said that we wanted to reduce spending

1066
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 8: by about eight or nine billion each year. The government

1067
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 8: hasn't done that. I think we can point to quite

1068
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 8: a few areas where act ministers and myself have helped

1069
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 8: the taxpayers save some money, so we can say the

1070
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 8: government's gone further than it might have without acts, but

1071
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 8: not as far as we would.

1072
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you guys are the ones wanting to

1073
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: cut that many and it's not happening, we'll blame New

1074
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: Zealand first and national. What are the reasons that they

1075
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: giving you for not cutting those public servants?

1076
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I don't think it's as simple

1077
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 8: as three parties sitting down. It is a whole process

1078
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 8: of different ministers saying I need to do this, and

1079
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 8: therefore I don't want to cut that, or I need

1080
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 8: extra money to do this. So it's kind of a

1081
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 8: big washing machine that all comes together. But the overall

1082
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 8: vibe of it is that we're doing the amounts of

1083
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 8: spending reduction that we are. I'm still happy to be

1084
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 8: there for this very simple reason that I know the

1085
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 8: other guys would be much much worse. But it's definitely

1086
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 8: true that you know, acts General pushes for less spending

1087
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 8: than perhaps others would have you see.

1088
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: David, I mean, look, I have sympathy for the fact

1089
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Speaker 3: that obviously, when you guys are in the room, you

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Speaker 3: guys know what's going on there. But I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to let you get away with this as a voter,

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Speaker 3: right because I'm disappointed when I look at the government

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Speaker 3: and I see that you guys haven't cut the promised

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Speaker 3: number of public servants. I'm going to blame New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First National and you aren't.

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Speaker 8: I yeah, I can understand. I can understand that. I

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Speaker 8: think if I was a voter, I'd be saying, Okay,

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Speaker 8: how do I keep this government? Because my number one

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Speaker 8: priority is you know, the Honorable Colie Swarbrick Minister. Anything

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Speaker 8: sounds but.

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Speaker 3: Why do I want to keep this government? David? I

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Speaker 3: mean at the moment it feels but it feels like

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Speaker 3: you guys are assuming that we want to keep this government.

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Speaker 3: Thisment government is now profoundly disappointing. I mean, it's as

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Speaker 3: good as a red government, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: Well, First of all, I think we can say that

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Speaker 8: there are quite a number of things that we have

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Speaker 8: done better. Second of all, if you are concerned about

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Speaker 8: what sort of government you have instead of them, and

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Speaker 8: you're someone who says, look, I think that I want

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Speaker 8: to see less spending, I want to see fewer public servants,

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Speaker 8: I want to see faster reductions, then you know, I

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Speaker 8: think it's pretty easy to see that without revealing the

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Speaker 8: confidence of any discussions, which I won't. Do you know

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Speaker 8: who went in there saying we need to cut a

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Speaker 8: lot more and a lot faster, and that was us.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what? There is a credible path if

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Speaker 3: you think about this, credible path to victory for labor

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Speaker 3: if they roll chippy giving themselves the option to go

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Speaker 3: with New Zealand first. And I just wonder if you

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Speaker 3: guys are overestimating or underestimating the public's appetite for a

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Speaker 3: change to that that might not be that bad when

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Speaker 3: we get to next year and we're as disappointed in

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Speaker 3: you guys as we are.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think people can make that argument if they want,

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Speaker 8: But I also just say to you this, there's never

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Speaker 8: been a government that has done as much as fast

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Speaker 8: to reform from the right, certainly not in two generations.

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Speaker 8: You think about three warders, the Maori Health Authority replacing

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Speaker 8: the RMA, doing services based on need not race, you know,

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Speaker 8: passing a regulatory standards bill that fundamentally renegotiates the relationship

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Speaker 8: between the state and regulating your property. That's why it's

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Speaker 8: been controversial on the left. Then you go through the

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Speaker 8: labor law changes. I mean it really does add up.

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Speaker 8: It's pretty significant, and I think sometimes when you're on

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Speaker 8: a long walk, it pays to just stop, look back,

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Speaker 8: and sometimes you're surprised at how far you've come. That

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Speaker 8: is what would be getting put at risk. And I

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Speaker 8: think speaking is act. We can claim to have done

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Speaker 8: our bit and probably a bit more in making it happen.

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Speaker 3: Look, if I know anything, it would be that you're

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Speaker 3: probably as frustrated as any of us at the spending

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Speaker 3: that's going on. Do you think that you have any

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Speaker 3: chance in the next eighteen months we're actually about a

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Speaker 3: year now of getting the rest of the government to

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Speaker 3: tighten the belt.

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Speaker 8: Well, I do, and again I don't want to deny that.

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Speaker 8: You know, we actually made some progress. And when you

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Speaker 8: look at school lunches, have the cost of that pay

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Speaker 8: equity saved twelve billion or over four years or three

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Speaker 8: billion dollars a year. My different savings exercises as each

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Speaker 8: budget five hundred million a year ongoing or saved last

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Speaker 8: year saved one hundred and fifteen million ongoing at the

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Speaker 8: budget that we've just had. So you know, it's not

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Speaker 8: that it's all small and we're not doing anything. We're

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Speaker 8: doing stuff, probably just not quite as much as some

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Speaker 8: of us would like him.

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Speaker 3: David, Thanks very much. David Seamore, Deputy Prime Minister also

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Speaker 3: Act Party Leader. Nineteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Souderby's International Realty Unique Homes Uniquely.

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Speaker 3: For you on the Huddle with me this evening. Ali

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Speaker 3: Jones have read pr and David Faraki we blogging Curiopolster.

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Speaker 3: How are you two?

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Speaker 10: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Good a Ali. David Seamore mounted a pretty good argument

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Speaker 3: there didn't they no a.

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Speaker 25: Predictable speaking in sound bike things I could put on

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Speaker 25: a T shirt or a bumper sticker. You know, I'm

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Speaker 25: sick of hearing him say things like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 25: we're not saving this money, we're not necessarily delivering things better.

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Speaker 25: What the hell does that mean? He has to start

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Speaker 25: giving real examples and some of the things he did

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Speaker 25: actually say as an example for you, know he mentioned

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Speaker 25: pay equity. We saved so many billions here, So it's

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Speaker 25: what mister Seymour's got to remember is for many of us,

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Speaker 25: and I wouldn't say that I'm one way or the

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Speaker 25: other politically, for many of us, it is not about

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Speaker 25: the multiple billions that you save, mister Seymour. It's actually

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Speaker 25: what it does to people, what it does to communities,

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Speaker 25: and it doesn't always have to have a dollar figure

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Speaker 25: on it. They are not thinking of the outcomes, they

1182
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Speaker 25: are not thinking about the consequences. They are just scorching,

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Speaker 25: slashing and burning and saying this is what we've saved.

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Speaker 25: And I, for one, I'm sick of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would like to see more savings, David. I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's enough at all. And I just wonder

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Speaker 3: how long he can carry on blaming national in n

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Speaker 3: Keoler without himself being blamed for failing to deliver.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, what was what only said? I don't if only

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Speaker 22: their head beats slashing and burning. I think you've had

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Speaker 22: some mild truoning.

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Speaker 25: Oh, they're getting rid of those pay equity claims. Getting

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Speaker 25: rid of those pay equity claims was a slash and

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Speaker 25: burn that was getting rid of years of good faith

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Speaker 25: bargaining in order to get money to put into the budget.

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Speaker 25: I'll be quite now because I know you've got to

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Speaker 25: have you saved, but that is definitely a slash and burn.

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Speaker 22: What they said about outcomes is we have to remember

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Speaker 22: the last government increased spending by fifty percent and almost

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Speaker 22: every social indicator got worse, education, how do you name it?

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Speaker 22: But I'm on David's side that they should cut more,

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Speaker 22: and there's probably a lost opportunity because look, when you

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Speaker 22: come into government, cutting spend will always create linsens and

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Speaker 22: if you do too much about it, like Kirstarmagan in

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Speaker 22: the UK, you've become deeply, deeply unpopular. So what they

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Speaker 22: hope they'd be able to do is cut the low

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Speaker 22: hanging fruit. That won't cause too much for lescal pain

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Speaker 22: and the economy would grow enough to get back into surplus.

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Speaker 22: That's looking a tough call now because basically the e

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Speaker 22: comedy is not quite great enough. So in the hindsight

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Speaker 22: of course, high that's unful. There should have been probably

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Speaker 22: bigger cats than that first twelve months when you've got

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Speaker 22: that sort of mandate almost from the public to say, lot,

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Speaker 22: we voted you guys hindsight's a wonderful things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it totally is. Ellie, are you going to tell

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Speaker 3: everybody how much you get? Well, not everybody, but are

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Speaker 3: you going to tell your colleagues how much you earn?

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Speaker 18: Now?

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Speaker 25: No, but you know I can if I want to,

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Speaker 25: you know, And I think that's what this is about,

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Speaker 25: and it's probably not so much about me telling other

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00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 25: people or other people telling me. I think what this

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Speaker 25: has done is actually given some visibility to the issue,

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Speaker 25: so we know that the problem they're trying to fix

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Speaker 25: here is pay parity. You know, how do we know

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Speaker 25: what's going on if we can't actually see what people

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Speaker 25: are being paid and what they're earning, or that they

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Speaker 25: have the right to say what they're being paid or

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Speaker 25: what they're earning. I also think there's another part of

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Speaker 25: this too. I know people who are on minimum wage,

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Speaker 25: not living wage. These are mature people and businesses that

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Speaker 25: are doing really well. These are mature people with a

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Speaker 25: lot of intelligence and qualifications and education, but they're on

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Speaker 25: not even a living wage. Now, if I think if

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Speaker 25: people knew which businesses were doing this, if there was

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Speaker 25: some visibility of that, people would choose where to be

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Speaker 25: a customer and I think that's another thing that might

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Speaker 25: come out with this as well.

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Speaker 3: Do you like this, David, I'm quite a fan of

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Speaker 3: this little law.

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Speaker 22: I don't think it should be illegal for people to

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Speaker 22: be able to talk to each other about what they're

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Speaker 22: paid are and something you have put an employ it contract.

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Speaker 22: I think you'll still find a lot of people won't

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Speaker 22: want to talk about because it can lead to uncomfortable conversations.

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Speaker 22: Or they're paid four thousand more I've been here longer.

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Speaker 22: Does that mean they don't value me or it's secret.

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Speaker 22: I think a lot of people not want to talk

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Speaker 22: about what they're paid. But if you want to be

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Speaker 22: able to go up to your mate and say, like

1251
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Speaker 22: hanging up for the pay round and I'm not sure

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Speaker 22: that they're paying me enough, go for it. You should

1253
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Speaker 22: be able to see what the others are paid and

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Speaker 22: that helps you make your case.

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Speaker 3: Why not, Hey, guys, take a break. We'll come back

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Speaker 3: shortly fourteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the Ones

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Speaker 1: for Unmassed Results.

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Speaker 3: Back on the Huddle David Farrer and Allie Jones. David,

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Speaker 3: do you agree with the Police Commissioner that we are

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Speaker 3: being far too gloomy about New Zealand and actually we

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Speaker 3: should be very grateful to be in such a great place.

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Speaker 22: I do, partly because I've just been looking at being

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Speaker 22: the Queen Charlotte Track in the last couple of days,

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Speaker 22: and as I look at these focos of the most

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Speaker 22: amazing sceneor you watch people around the world would die for,

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Speaker 22: that does remind me. Yes, we have economic challenges, but

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Speaker 22: there's not New Zealand's is the place to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that totally is what do you reckon, Ellie?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, And look, but I'm not gonna apologize for it.

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Speaker 7: I thn't.

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Speaker 25: We're very privileged, right, David. I mean there are people

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Speaker 25: who just can't. I meet a woman the other day.

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Speaker 5: Who's had to tell her five year old.

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Speaker 25: Grandson that they don't bake anymore just because they're too busy.

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Speaker 25: The reason she can't bake anymore if she can't afford

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Speaker 25: to buy butter. And I know that that's not a

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Speaker 25: major either. She's firt, she's well, she's able to put

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Speaker 25: food on the table. But the scener on the Queen

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Speaker 25: Charlotte Track is great, and yes, we do live in

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Speaker 25: a wonderful country. But we can't expect everyone to give

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Speaker 25: credit with credits due when they are dealing with really

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Speaker 25: serious day to day issues like the cost of living.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we don't want to be pollyannaish about it,

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Speaker 3: do we. I Mean, there are some difficult things that

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Speaker 3: are going on right now Ali for people, and it's

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Speaker 3: really hard to make ends meet. But this will get better,

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Speaker 3: whereas a place like Europe has probably got years, if

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Speaker 3: not decades of trouble ahead of them.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Look, no, you're right here there, and that whole thing

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Speaker 25: about gratitude, we really do have to practice that a

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Speaker 25: little bit more.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 25: I do think we've been a bit of a country

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Speaker 25: of tall poppies and looking at the glass half empty.

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Speaker 25: You know, you do hear of headlines like New Zealand

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Speaker 25: missed the Gold, when in fact the headlines should be

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Speaker 25: New Zealand winds silver. So you know, I think there

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Speaker 25: are ways that we can be approaching things that are

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Speaker 25: a bit more positive than we currently have.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps.

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Speaker 3: So now, David, what do you make of this business

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Speaker 3: with the leftovers and having to basically sign a waiver

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Speaker 3: before you can take your leftovers away?

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Speaker 22: Look, you're just crazy. I mean, what does sign the waiver.

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Speaker 22: Do anyway, if you actually have poisoned the food, that's

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Speaker 22: not going to preteat you. But if you haven't poisoned it,

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Speaker 22: you're fine. I mean, has anyone ever actually gotten into

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Speaker 22: trouble by allowing their customers to take food home and

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Speaker 22: a doggy bag with our way?

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Speaker 3: No ridiculous, right, No, it does seem over the top.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, elly?

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Speaker 25: No, I totally disagree, And yes, people have got into

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Speaker 25: trouble with this before. So what my husband's and ext

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Speaker 25: chef and I know from others who have worked in

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Speaker 25: the sector that you've got people who take food home

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Speaker 25: and they are so you know, social media is so

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Speaker 25: accessible these days and the reach is so huge that

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Speaker 25: you post a Google review on the food that you've

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Speaker 25: got causing you food poisoning and it must have been

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Speaker 25: from the place you've got it, and that business can

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Speaker 25: go under And I'm not overstating that. So you know,

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Speaker 25: it's not much to ask for people to just I

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 25: wouldn't mind signing something saying that you know, the food

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Speaker 25: was great when I left if it means I can

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Speaker 25: take my food home, But how do you know the.

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Speaker 3: Farm was good? Because it might take you an oyster

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Speaker 3: can take you two or three days to sort of

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the.

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Speaker 25: Social media, yeah yes, But if someone has eaten it

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Speaker 25: on site and they get sick at the restaurant on site,

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Speaker 25: this is a I think your story.

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Speaker 5: Said Heather, that peep. They keep records of who signs.

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Speaker 25: The forms and who doesn't. Yeah, but I think the

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Speaker 25: risk is too great, and I have seen it happen

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Speaker 25: where people have said the food made me sick, when

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Speaker 25: in fact it was a person taking it home.

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Speaker 18: Look, either you.

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Speaker 25: Sign the waiver or you don't allow people to take

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Speaker 25: food on that's a choice.

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Speaker 5: It's got to be.

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Speaker 3: I think I love taking food home. Do you take

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Speaker 3: food home? David? Yeah? Why well, why is your appetite

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Speaker 3: so small at the minute?

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Speaker 22: It's called children. They don't always finish their metal.

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Speaker 3: It's too right. Actually I've forgotten about them. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 3: got one of those two. Actually, guys, thanks very much,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it, David Farret Alie Jones a hud of this

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Speaker 3: evening eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Ard Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Heather ffs the suggestion of labor even with New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First back and government is frankly terrifying. You know, I know,

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Speaker 3: I know. Look, it's not going to happen. It's not

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Speaker 3: going to happen. But I want you to just I

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Speaker 3: just want you just have to know the the possibilities.

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Speaker 3: Right what's going on at the moment is that we're

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Speaker 3: looking at what we're looking at the coalition government being National,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand First and Act, and we're going it's not

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Speaker 3: going to change at the next election because no one's

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Speaker 3: going to vote for the other side. The other side's

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Speaker 3: a bunch of loonies. It's Labor and the Greens and

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Speaker 3: the Maori Party. No one's going to vote for that.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with you, no one is going to

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Speaker 3: vote for that. That's mental. That's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But what you have to also bear in mind is

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Speaker 3: that there is always the smallest, tiniest, tiniest, tiny, tiny,

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Speaker 3: tiny possibility. But it is a pathway to victory for

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Speaker 3: Labor if they roll Chippy, because if they roll Chippy,

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Speaker 3: then New Zealand First and Winston can go with them,

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Speaker 3: because remember he's only said he rules out Chippy. He's

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Speaker 3: never see he rules out Labor. So if they roll Chippy,

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Speaker 3: then New Zealand first can go with them and choose

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Speaker 3: them again. And I know that's a big call for Winston,

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Speaker 3: but Winston does make some some sizeable mental calls, doesn't he.

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Speaker 3: I mean, remember when he picked Jasinda Ardoun, who came

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Speaker 3: in under Bill English. That was a mental call and

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Speaker 3: he still made it. So don't don't don't write off

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Speaker 3: the possibility for Winston to make some pretty mental calls anyway.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to happen. I think we're

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Speaker 3: going to come out of this wind. We're going to

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01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: feel a lot better. The economy is going to start

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Speaker 3: improving just a little bit. We'll feel better about it

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Speaker 3: next year. We won't be this angry with the coalition

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Speaker 3: government and so we'll vote for them back again, I think.

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Speaker 3: But there's just the tiniest little chance. It's just a

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Speaker 3: little credible pathway to victory. Just going to take some

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Speaker 3: courage from the Labour Party to get rid of Chippy.

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Speaker 3: By the looks of things, four away from six now,

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Speaker 3: the gas supply is unfortunately falling faster than we previously thought,

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Speaker 3: which itself was faster than we previously thought, so it

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Speaker 3: should be. I keep telling you if you've got gas,

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Speaker 3: you need to get off gas. This is another warning

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Speaker 3: for me, you need to get off gas. The supply

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Speaker 3: of gas is down two hundred percent compared to two

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Speaker 3: years ago twenty twenty three. The natural gas reserves at

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Speaker 3: the first of January this year, we're twenty seven percent

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Speaker 3: down on just the year before. We thought the gas

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01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: production would go up from this year because development projects

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01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: were expected to mature. But that's not going to happen

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Speaker 3: at all now. So now we don't expect the production

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Speaker 3: is going to go up now. We just accept production

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: is going to keep on going down and consumption is

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Speaker 3: going down as well as a result of that. So

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Speaker 3: total gas use in the economy dropped twenty two percent

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Speaker 3: year on year. That is mainly because because methan X

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Speaker 3: shut its plants for a bit and then sold the

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Speaker 3: gas to retailers so that we could have gas in

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Speaker 3: our own houses. Anyway, don't feel depressed about it, because

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Speaker 3: I think. But but if you name it, you tame it.

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Speaker 3: This is this is basically how I'm I'm I've got

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Speaker 3: I'm doing what's what the psychologists called radical acceptance, which

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: is you go I can't fight it, just accept it.

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Speaker 3: You know, when the husband doesn't like no matter how

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 3: many times you tell him to clean the coffee machine

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Speaker 3: and wipe it down with the sponge and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: do it, you stopped fighting it, just radically accept it.

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Speaker 3: So just radically accept that the gas is running out

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Speaker 3: and you just basically need to get something else. You

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Speaker 3: are welcome.

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Speaker 26: Laura's getting paid more than us.

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Speaker 3: We have, Laura's getting paid.

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Speaker 26: We can do it.

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Speaker 3: It's just really good Markia against the maname. We just

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Speaker 3: have to radically accept it. Sky said He with us

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Speaker 3: next on the Capital Race Newstalk, sa'd be.

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Speaker 23: Oh with my.

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Speaker 2: Keeping track of where the money is flowing. The Business hour.

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Speaker 1: With Hi the Duplicy for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News

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Speaker 1: talks that be.

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Speaker 3: Evening coming up for the next hour. We spend a

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Speaker 3: lot of time talking about US tech companies, but what

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01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 3: about a great Chinese tech company. We'll have a chat

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: to Sam Dicky about that shortly. Zesprie is having a

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01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: great time Jamie McKay on that, and Enda Brady will

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Speaker 3: do the UK for us at seven past six. Now

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Speaker 3: Sky City is after all going to go ahead with

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Speaker 3: that capital raise. It's looking to raise two hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty million dollars, announced today that they have a forty

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Speaker 3: two percent drop in profit for the year, down to

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Speaker 3: seventy one point five million dollars now. Jason Woolbridge is

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Speaker 3: Sky Cities Chief Executive High Jason, Hi, Heather, are you

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 3: worried about Alan Gray's opposition to your capital raise.

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01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 6: We've certainly taken into account of all of our major investors' feedback.

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01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 6: We believe that we're acting in the best interests of

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Speaker 6: the company and you know, we were pleased to be

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Speaker 6: able to announce our FY twenty five results today along

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Speaker 6: with the equity rays of two hundred and forty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: The point that Alan Gray's is that you guys should

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Speaker 3: be selling as many assets as you can first. Is

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Speaker 3: that a fair point?

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01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 6: We agree we need to monetize some assets. You know,

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 6: we're a fantastic quality business. We're a key part of

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Speaker 6: New Zealand and South Australian economy and the equity rays

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01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 6: and selling some assets is about paying down debt and

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Speaker 6: resetting our balance sheet for the future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you not have enough assets though? To avoid

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Speaker 3: the capital rays?

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Speaker 6: It's all about timing We've been working hard on monetizing

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Speaker 6: the car parks and the commercial building. These things, unfortunately

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Speaker 6: take time in a tough New Zealand economy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how is it going with the sales that you

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Speaker 3: already have underwe or that you're planning to do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've been underway with the car park for about

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Speaker 6: six months now. It's going to take us another six

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Speaker 6: to twelve months, and the commercial buildings will just take

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Speaker 6: us a little bit longer.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's a rubbish time to be trying to sell that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: It's not the best time. It's a tough New Zealand

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Speaker 6: economy for all New Zealanders as well as companies like

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Speaker 6: us trying to sell O set.

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Speaker 3: Hey, are you seeing a difference in how you guys

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Speaker 3: are doing over in Australia versus how are you doing here?

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Speaker 6: It's certainly different economies. The South Australian economy is very

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Speaker 6: strong versus here in New Zealand. We have seen less

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Speaker 6: spend per visit, but across both jurisdictions, visitations remained really

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Speaker 6: strong and we're thrilled about that.

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Speaker 3: Why is it so much stronger in South Australia? Do

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Speaker 3: you think.

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01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 6: I think it's just a different economy. They've rebounded back

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01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 6: post COVID with tourism a lot stronger. They're focused on

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01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 6: bringing big events to South Australia. You know, all the

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Speaker 6: things that New Zealand knows how to do, and we're

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Speaker 6: getting back to doing those things. It's just taking us

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Speaker 6: a little while.

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Speaker 3: Do you support the calls that are increasingly coming out

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Speaker 3: of Auckland for some sort of assistance for Auckland.

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Speaker 6: For the city overall? I'm not really sure about that.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're focused on what we can control of SkyCity.

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01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 6: We're excited about the Convention Center opening in February. We're

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Speaker 6: going to bring down up to five hundred thousand delicate

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Speaker 6: days worth of activity into the city and that fills

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 6: up hotels and restaurants and bars. So you know, that's

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Speaker 6: where we're our focus is at the moment. What of

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Speaker 6: the things we can control?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about the bed levy? Would you support that?

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Speaker 6: We're certainly supportive of something of that nature. We would

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 6: like to see more major events coming back to New

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Speaker 6: Zealand and we need to be able to fund the

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Speaker 6: activity that's required to bring those events down here.

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Speaker 3: Because is it just me or is it actually? Is

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Speaker 3: there like a bit of a dearth of good things

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: on our calendar in Auckland.

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Speaker 13: There is.

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Speaker 6: We're in a little bit of a drought at the moment.

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Speaker 6: You know, we would love to see some more things.

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Speaker 6: And that's why we're excited about the convention Center. You know,

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Speaker 6: we're going to open in February. We've got thirty odd

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Speaker 6: events in the first four or five months.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, Jason, you might be excited about the

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Speaker 3: convention Center. I'm not excited about the convention Center. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to give me a concert I can go to,

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Speaker 3: is it we do?

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Speaker 6: We haven't announced the launch events yet. Hither there may

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Speaker 6: be something in there that you look forward to.

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Speaker 3: No, perhaps so, But I mean, listen, tell me, you

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 3: know you're an expert in this kind of thing. I'm

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: looking at the calendar. I'm thinking, Jesus a bit dry

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: out there at the minute. How much more should we

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: actually have on the calendar than we do?

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Speaker 6: Look, particularly through the winter period, it'd be lovely to

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Speaker 6: see more events, you know, one or two events every month.

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Speaker 6: Just think back to October last year when we had

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 6: Coldplay in town. Yeah, what a big difference that made

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 6: to the city. That's the sort of stuff that we

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 6: really want to see in Auckland happening far more often.

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Speaker 3: So, if you could put your finger on the thing

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: that's causing us to not have those things on the calendar,

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Speaker 3: what is it.

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Speaker 10: Right now?

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Speaker 6: At the moment, it's funding. You know, these events work

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 6: on a two, three four year horizon. We've got to

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 6: be booking these events now for twenty seven, twenty eight,

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Speaker 6: and twenty nine. Our sales team for the convention Center

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01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 6: are selling on a three to five year horizon. We've

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 6: already got events in the calendar for twenty seven and

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Speaker 6: twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Have we got events for Auckland? Have we booked things

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01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 3: for two three years out?

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01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure of specific events that we've got.

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01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 6: You'd need to talk to the team at Heart of

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01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 6: Auckland and Tataki Unlimited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point. Now, you spoke about the convention Center,

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01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: which obviously is fantastic for you guys, and you're getting

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01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: the keys in February. How much is that going to

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 3: turn around the fortunes of your business? Do you reckon?

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01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 6: It's a game changer for us as we ramp that

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01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 6: property to full capacity. We're hoping to see five hundred

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 6: thousand odd visited days with of activity there. You know,

1554
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 6: it's people are our hotels, restaurants into our casino, and

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 6: it's not only good for SkyCity, it's good for every

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01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 6: hotel operator, every restaurant operator in the city of Auckland.

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Speaker 3: And this business with Fletcher in the court case, how

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 3: long is that going to take? Do you think?

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure. You know, it's never a decision

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01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 6: that any company wants to make, but we just felt

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01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 6: it was the best interest of our shareholders. The building

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Speaker 6: six and a half years late. You know, it's at

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 6: some point we need to sit down and settle up.

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01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 6: What's happened there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Jason's good to talk to you and thank

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Speaker 3: you for your time. Jason Woolbridge, chief executive of sky City.

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Speaker 3: Another business doing really well, Scaler up doing so brilliantly

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Speaker 3: that they actually when they put theirs gave the results

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 3: release their results to the Stock Exchange, they had so

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01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 3: many mentions of the word record that apparently they had

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01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: to take some out otherwise they would just be overdoing it.

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: They had record profit, record, earnings, record revenue, record results,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera fifty four point five million dollar

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01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 3: profit after tax. That's the report of their ninth successive

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: year of earnings growth. And obviously the story here is

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01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: that the agricultural exporters are doing so well and so

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 3: they want more gum boots and they want more car

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01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 3: feeding teats and stuff like that, and so scaler Up is,

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01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, the beneficiary of all of that. Also, scalour

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01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: Up have played this beautifully. Apparently they've been an early

1581
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: They were an early mover on the US tariffs, so

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 3: they paid a lot of money to shift a lot

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01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 3: of products stateside to keep it there so it wouldn't

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01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: be pinged by the tariffs. And they've still got stuff

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01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: there in case the tariffs, you know, well not in

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01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 3: case tariffs, because the tariffs six fourteen.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather duperssy allan Drive full show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by news dog Zebbie.

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Speaker 3: Oh here's a little bit more positive positivity for you, Heather.

1590
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: I've come back to New Zealand after forty years in

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 3: Australia and living in Queenstown. Now Sydney and Melbourne are

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01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 3: an expensive, crime ridden, devisive mess. I don't understand why

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 3: New Zealand media talk those places up. It's very different

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: living there than being a tourist. New Zealand is such

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 3: a great place. Thank you. Seventeen past six.

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Speaker 2: The Rural Report on Heather dupersy Allan.

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Speaker 3: Drive Hi, host of the Countries with Us, Hello, Jamie

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Speaker 3: good A Heather so Fonterras raised the farm baker if

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Speaker 3: armgate and milk price forecast are they?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well it's the forecast for the season just finished,

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Speaker 15: So this morning a couple of good news stories from

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 15: Fonterra and Zespri in the past couple of days. Sorry

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01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 15: for the background noise. I'm parked at Auckland Airport trying

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 15: to find a quiet spot, which isn't that easy at

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 15: the moment. So yeah, for the season just finished twenty

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 15: four to twenty five, they've moved that mid point to

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01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 15: ten dollars fifteen. The range is now ten dollars ten

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01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 15: to ten dollars twenty so that's locked and loaded.

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 10: That is baked.

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 15: And perhaps of more interest was the number for the

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 15: twenty five twenty six season, which we've just entered into.

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 15: They've narrowed that range because remember they had a huge

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 15: range from eight dollars to eleven dollars and the midpoint

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01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 15: that wasn't in the middle because mid the midpoint was

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01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 15: ten dollars. Now they've narrowed that band down to nine

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01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 15: to eleven dollars. The midpoint is smaking the middle at ten.

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 15: They're still forecasting ten.

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01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 10: That's a great result.

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 15: Are the forecast earnings of sixty five to seventy five

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 15: cents per share remain unchanged and that is the money

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 15: in which the Fonterra Farmer shareholders get their dividend, and

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01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 15: I'm reckoning it could be anything as high as fifty

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 15: cents per share, Heather, which makes it a pretty good yelder.

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01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant. They deserve it. What about Zesbriy. That's looking great,

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 3: isn't it.

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm going to be broadcasting from tower tomorrow, Heather,

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01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 15: so I'll be catching up with Jason to break the

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 15: CEO for Zesprie. They've come out with the strong full

1630
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 15: first forecast get it right for the twenty five to

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 15: twenty sixth season. Everything is looking at record returns with

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 15: the exception of some golden organic green and they're within

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 15: the forecast range. So the Kiwi fruit industry is on

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01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 15: a real high now. Their next job is to fulfill

1635
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 15: their next ten year plan, because their previous ten year plan, Heather,

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01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 15: was to target four point five billion in sales by

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01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 15: twenty twenty five. They've done that, and if I just

1638
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 15: scroll down my page here, excuse me what for the delay?

1639
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 15: Their next ambition or their next ten year plan will

1640
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 15: be focused on being the world's world's healthiest fruit brand,

1641
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 15: and I see no reason why they can't do that.

1642
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 15: Heather keiwifruit is a superfood.

1643
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jamie, as always appreciated, and good luck with

1644
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,440
Speaker 3: you flight this Jamie McKay, host to the Country six twenty.

1645
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: Head to see Elis.

1646
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 3: So yesterday I was telling you that there's this game

1647
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: Beat the Bish, and you're supposed to beat Bishop up,

1648
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 3: as in Chris Bishop up. Chris Bishop must have heard

1649
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 3: it because Chris well Or just googled himself because he's

1650
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 3: found the game, and he's played the game quite badly.

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01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 9: Where's fine playing Environmentalis Celeclis, Dan Walker, Omona Yours and flats.

1652
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 3: He quite enjoyed it. Like me, He went for the

1653
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 3: Gordon Wilson Flats because I think both of us just

1654
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 3: have a love hate relationship with that hideous building. He

1655
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: lasted just a minute. I was slightly more than a minute.

1656
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 3: And then after that he got bushed.

1657
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, I got that.

1658
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 18: Now.

1659
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it was, because they sent us

1660
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 3: the video of it. They were like, looky here, it

1661
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: is what you were talking about. And it was RESTful.

1662
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 3: It was you know when you watch your child do something,

1663
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm gonna fall off there. Yep, no they did,

1664
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: you know, but it was like that kind of level

1665
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 3: of stress. But it just went on for more than

1666
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 3: a minute because what Chris Bishop did was he let

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01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: all the little heads get He waited very long time

1668
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: before he hit the little heads coming out. They would

1669
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: cross about two thirds of the screen and they'd be

1670
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: right at him and then he'd only knock them out.

1671
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 3: So he played it very poorly, very stressful thing to watch.

1672
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: But at least, you know, for the people who set

1673
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: this up, called Live Wellington whatever they called, at least

1674
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 3: they can now know that, in fact, Chris Bishop knows

1675
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: that the game exists and if that was part of

1676
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 3: the point he got it. He knows about the over

1677
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 3: each six twenty one.

1678
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

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01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather dufic Ellen and maz for

1680
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Speaker 1: trusted Home Insurance solutions.

1681
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Speaker 3: News talks'd be either imagine the outcry if someone had

1682
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: made a game that was bashing just inta. I know,

1683
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: I know we have covered this off, but I feel

1684
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: like that's a point that you could You can never

1685
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 3: you cannot make that point enough just to underscore the

1686
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: fact that women need to harden up in politics. So

1687
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: with it here, the why is it that the Maori

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01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 3: Party hopefuls have all started to wear red berets like

1689
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 3: Julius Malema. Well, okay, so I haven't seen it. I

1690
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: did see that. What's the face or any kaipitter who's

1691
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 3: running in the by election is wearing a red beret

1692
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: at the moment. I haven't seen if any of the

1693
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 3: others wearing a red beret. But remember Tarriana Toria used

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 3: to wear a beret. It was black and she had

1695
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: the little ten tongue little emblem on the front of it.

1696
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: But berets are a bit like it's a Marxist thing,

1697
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 3: isn't it? Because Julius Malema, who's mental in South Africa,

1698
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 3: him and his lot wear it, and then Shay Guevara

1699
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 3: wore it and ants pointed out just before the Black

1700
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: Panther movement wore it. So it is generally if you

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01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: see a politician wearing a bearre, it's because they want

1702
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 3: you to know that they're a Marxist and then you

1703
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: can do with that, which you will, in my case

1704
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: run a mile. I do not vote for type thing anyway.

1705
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 3: Speaking of speaking of hats in parliament, Andy Foster has

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01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: been wearing a gigantic hat in Parliament. It's a handsome hat.

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01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 3: It's fetching. It's like a would you describe it as

1708
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: a fedora? I don't really know. I'm not down on

1709
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: my hat, my hat cataloging, you know, categories, but it's

1710
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 3: quite a handsome sort of hat. He's obviously paid a

1711
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 3: fair amount of money for it. I'm told that New

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01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: Zealand First is getting a lot of grief for Andy

1713
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: wearing the hat in Parliament because New Zealand First has

1714
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: taken quite a strong stance on everybody else's standard slipping.

1715
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 3: Andy's wearing the hat because he's had so he's had

1716
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 3: surgery to his head and before he was wearing the

1717
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 3: hat there was a gigantic white plaster and I think

1718
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 3: we can all agree the hat is an improvement, So

1719
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 3: don't give New Zealand first grief. There's a good reason

1720
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: for it. Six twenty six, Where go, Here's your Soldier's Moves.

1721
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: If you haven't heard of the K pop demon Hunters yet,

1722
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 3: count yourself lucky. And you obviously don't have children either.

1723
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 3: It's the new Netflix animated sensation Boring a Hole in

1724
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 3: our kid's eyeballs. The movie has already been watched over

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Speaker 3: two hundred and ten million times on Netflix. It's now

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Speaker 3: coming to the theaters for a very limited run. Hoyt

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 3: Cinema is hosting a two night showing with little sing

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 3: along subtitles along the bottom so all the kids can

1729
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 3: scream the words to their hearts content. The song Golden

1730
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: from the soundtrack that was that A That's it? I

1731
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 3: hate it with a passion. The song Golden from the

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: soundtrack went to number one on the Billboard Charts. It

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 3: was the first girl group to do so since Destiny's Child.

1734
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: And they're not even real the AI. The real voice

1735
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 3: behind the group's music is a songwriter called EJ. She's

1736
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: over the moon with how it's caught.

1737
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: On hitting number one.

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Speaker 6: It's absolutely crazy.

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01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 7: I cried all day.

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01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: She doesn't even sound like she sounds in Golden She's

1741
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: got a nice voice in real life and Golden ants.

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 3: Can you play us the bit where she sounds shrill?

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01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1744
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: Do you see why I hated it? Anyway? If you

1745
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: want to be locked in a dark room full of

1746
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: screaming kids this weekend, check out pop demon Hunters sing

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: along in your local Voets theater. Oh, Sam Dickey with US.

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Speaker 27: I just I just had a look as well ahead

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 27: of That song is still number one here as well

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01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 27: on the New Zealand Music charts.

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Speaker 26: And it's been there for quite a while. Oh lord,

1752
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 26: everyone's into it?

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01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 13: Yeah me?

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Speaker 3: Can you just get how high like she's heading? Some

1755
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: high notes that hurt my brain? Anyway, Sam Dickie's of

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Speaker 3: US Next News TOKSB.

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Speaker 1: You know, if it's to do with money, it matters

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01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: to you. Your Business Hour with Hender Duper, c Allen

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: and Maz for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News talkb.

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Speaker 3: Ghither this is a dumb question, but do you think

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01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: the upcoming local body elections would give any indication on

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01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: what may happen at the general election? Not a question

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01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: at all. Actually, we've just been debating that. Funnily enough,

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Speaker 3: so I will answer.

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01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 17: That for you.

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01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: Well, to the best of our ability, we will answer

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 3: that for you. And just to Tick and Brady is

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01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: with us out of the UK shortly. It's twenty four

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01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 3: away from seven. While everyone's obsessing over the US tech giants,

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01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: the best performing large tech company globally over the last

1771
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 3: year is actually ten Cent, which is a Chinese company

1772
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 3: a lot of people have never heard of. To talk

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01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: us through this, we have Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds

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01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 3: with us. Hey, Sam, Hey, Now ten Cent of the

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Speaker 3: guys who do the games, don't.

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Speaker 14: They that's right gaming that Their primary business though, is

1777
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 14: via their WeChat app, so it's the so called super app.

1778
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 14: So they've got sort of one point four billion users,

1779
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 14: so a quarter of all Internet uses globally use the

1780
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 14: app every day and you can do everything from paybills,

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01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 14: to invest a shop, to hail cabs, to book doctor's appointments,

1782
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 14: and to play games. They're very big in global gaming,

1783
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 14: so it's super sticky. So it's got this kind of

1784
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 14: massive captive audience that use it for hours every day,

1785
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 14: and it can drive revenue via payments, shopping, advertising.

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01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 3: It And should investors care about it?

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01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 18: Yes?

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's a trillion dollar behemoth that many haven't

1790
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 14: heard of, and it's it's a as I said, it's

1791
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,759
Speaker 14: app is very very sticky. But it's been quite a saga,

1792
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 14: I've got to say, because for years you could avoid

1793
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 14: the low quality state owned enterprises like the bloated banks

1794
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 14: and steel companies in China and just invest in fabulous

1795
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 14: private companies like ten Cent to Ali Barber. But then

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01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 14: you might remember Jack Ma, the charismatic farm founder of

1797
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 14: Ali Baba, reportedly got too big for his boots. He

1798
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 14: criticized Chinese financial regulators publicly, and that kick started a

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01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 14: rolling series of crackdowns on private companies and tycoons.

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Speaker 3: Has China carried on with that attitude of the crackdowns

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01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: or have they learned from it?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 14: Well, so that that did kickstarter sort of a three

1804
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 14: year seventy five percent under performance by Chinese tech stocks

1805
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 14: versus US tech stocks, but that has started to thaw

1806
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 14: so sort of late twenty three and then into twenty four,

1807
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 14: Beijing started to roll out new measures to support tech

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 14: and EV and then the major turning point was in

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01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 14: February of this year and President She hosted a high

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01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 14: profile tech symposium and who should be on stage with

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 14: him but Jack ma which is very symbolic and a

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01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 14: clear sign that the crackdown was completely over. And China

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01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 14: tech is the best performing tech sector globally by far

1814
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 14: over the past twelve months. And like you said here,

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 14: the ten cents up sort of sixty percent, much more

1816
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 14: than a video and even meta.

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01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 3: So where does this put us in terms of if

1818
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: we look at the US tech companies versus the Chinese

1819
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: tech companies, who's winning this one?

1820
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 14: Yeah, that the US China tech arms race. It really

1821
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 14: is at fever pitch at the moment. So first of all,

1822
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 14: take a step back before the President She's symposium and

1823
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 14: sort of lovin with Jack Maer. Remember we had that

1824
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 14: the deep seek moment that you and I talked about

1825
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 14: in January when a Chinese AI company showed the world

1826
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 14: it could allegedly build AI models at a fraction of

1827
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 14: the cost of the US players, and that drove kind

1828
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 14: of a ton of enthusiasm around China made AI chips,

1829
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 14: China made AI equipment, China made AI models, and let's

1830
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 14: not forget China now leads the US now and things

1831
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 14: like drones, electric vehicle manufacturing efficiency and autonomous vehicle software.

1832
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 14: So there's three companies in China now that have cracked

1833
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 14: the critical level for full self driving riddle. So the

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01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 14: other thing that's really important is China is miles ahead

1835
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 14: on the critical bottleneck of power generation required to power

1836
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 14: this sort of AI tech arms race. So take a

1837
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 14: step back ten or fifteen years and both China and

1838
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 14: the US had about the same power generation capacity of

1839
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 14: about a thousand gigawatts. Today China has three times as

1840
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 14: much power capacity as the US. But the US isn't

1841
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 14: a frenzy too. I'm not sure if you saw recently,

1842
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 14: but Trump is on record gushing about Jensenhang, the Vidio CEO, saying,

1843
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 14: now these learned the facts of life about Jensen.

1844
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: He is untouchable, and he's tried.

1845
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 14: To rename artificial intelligence because he doesn't like anything artificial.

1846
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 14: He's tried to rename it genius intelligence. So it's all

1847
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 14: going just a little bit frenzied.

1848
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 3: So what does this mean for investors?

1849
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 14: It is a reminder that the fabdist companies all around

1850
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 14: the world, often the ones you haven't heard about. It's

1851
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 14: also reminded that when you do invest in China, and

1852
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 14: you and I have talked about China a lot. It's

1853
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 14: not always a stock market that's driven by fundamentals. It

1854
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 14: is massively policy driven. So you really do have to

1855
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 14: read the tea leaves and that's why those sort of

1856
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 14: symbolic things like she getting mar up on stage is

1857
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 14: really critical to watch.

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01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting, Thank you so much. Sam has always

1859
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 3: appreciate your expertise at Sam de Kia Fisher Funds. That's

1860
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 3: twenty away from seven, Heather, do see out there. So

1861
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 3: will the local body elections at the end of the

1862
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: seal in a couple of months time be an indication

1863
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: of what we should expect at the next election, Yes,

1864
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 3: but also no, Yes, I think maybe maybe, okay, maybe

1865
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: maybe at the mayoral level, right because but not at

1866
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 3: the council level, because I don't think any of us

1867
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 3: know what we're voting for. You'd have to be really

1868
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 3: really clued in to be aware of what each of

1869
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: the councilors stand for and what they're like, like, you know,

1870
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: where they roughly line up in the political strum and

1871
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I don't think counselors really count.

1872
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 3: But it's pretty clear I think with mayors which way

1873
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: they lean, whether they're right learning mayors or left leaning mares.

1874
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 3: And I do think it gives us an indication of

1875
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 3: how the country feels, because do you remember a last

1876
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 3: election in twenty twenty two for the local bodies. Everybody

1877
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 3: the whole country went right right except for Wellington which

1878
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: went far left. Everybody else went right. And I think

1879
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: that we all looked at that and went, jeez, that's

1880
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 3: an indication of something, isn't it. It was because the

1881
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 3: country had a guts full of what was going on

1882
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 3: in politics, which is that everything had got really kind

1883
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: of distracted. They got distracted at central government level, but

1884
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 3: also local government level with all the race relations and

1885
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: Maori wards and co governance and all that kind of

1886
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 3: crap and spending. It got out of control. And what

1887
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 3: I think the whole country wanted and then demonstrated in

1888
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 3: those elections was it we just wanted for school discipline,

1889
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 3: like everybody was having a tough time in cost of

1890
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 3: living crisis. We just wanted our mayors to start looking

1891
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 3: at the finances, stop wasting time on cultural wal crap,

1892
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: and get on with it right. And so I think, yes,

1893
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: it can be an indication like it was then and

1894
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 3: then it bore fruit same thing happen, and with central

1895
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 3: government we all swung, you know, coalition government got voted

1896
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 3: and stuff. So it can be kind of a bit

1897
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 3: of a test of where the country's sitting. But I

1898
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 3: suspect things will change quite a lot between where we

1899
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: are this year and where we are next year, because

1900
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 3: this year we're all pretty grumpy, aren't we, because this

1901
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 3: is like the economy sucks, doesn't it. But maybe next

1902
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: year we'll be feeling a little bit better. So it

1903
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 3: can change quite a lot in a year. So I

1904
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 3: wouldn't I would. I would take it as a bit

1905
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: of a test, but I wouldn't I wouldn't overdo it, Like,

1906
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 3: don't go too hard on what you think is going

1907
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: on there, because you never, as I said, you never

1908
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 3: will know what's going to happen in the next year

1909
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 3: or so. A neo Nazi in Germany as making a

1910
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 3: mockery of Germany's transgender laws. I recommend I would encourage

1911
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 3: you to google this person just to have a look

1912
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 3: at what is going on here, because it is it's

1913
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: a sight to behold. What's happened is Germany changed their

1914
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 3: law to make it really simple for you to be

1915
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: able to change your gender and your name on your

1916
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 3: official documents. So if you decide that you identify born

1917
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: a man, identify as a woman, pretty simple thing to do.

1918
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 3: You don't have to jump through hoops approve anything. You

1919
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 3: just basically they do it whatever and what it was

1920
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 3: designed to do as well, meaning it was supposed to

1921
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 3: support the transgender and intersex and non binary communities in Germany.

1922
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: But what's happened is that the neo Nazis have latched

1923
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 3: onto it and they have been using it because they

1924
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 3: get sent to jail for being Neo Nazis members of

1925
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Dix and stuff like that. But they don't want to

1926
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 3: go to the boy jails because they're worried they're gonna

1927
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 3: get beaten up by the boys and the boy jails,

1928
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 3: so they change They use this law to change their

1929
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: names and change their their gender so they can get

1930
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 3: sent to the girl jails because I think they can

1931
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 3: have an easier run there. And so what's happened is

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Speaker 3: there's a chap called Gone Laura s fen Libick Fenlebick, Yeah,

1933
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 3: I got it right, spen Libick, and he's changed his

1934
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 3: name to Marlasfenya and he started dressing like a woman

1935
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: and wearing you know, quite quite fetching lipstick and some

1936
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 3: quite nice earrings. But he's also grown a mustache like

1937
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 3: a like a like a chopper reed mustache, like an

1938
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Speaker 3: I ride a mode bike with monkey bar handle things

1939
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 3: must like quite an aggressive mustache. He's now going to

1940
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 3: serve eighteen months jail. He's going to serve it in

1941
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 3: a woman's jail because he is now Marla Spena with

1942
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 3: quite a fetching hat, earrings, lipstick, eyeshadow, and a mustache. Anyway,

1943
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 3: I think the mustache is supposed to indicate to you

1944
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Speaker 3: that he's not really transgender, but he's just he's just

1945
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 3: doing it to mess with you. Anyway, Go and have

1946
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Speaker 3: a look at that. It's kind of interesting. Gavin inde

1947
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Speaker 3: Brady's with US next sixteen away from seven.

1948
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Speaker 2: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

1949
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Speaker 1: It's hither to the Sea Ellen with the Business Hour

1950
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Speaker 1: and MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

1951
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Speaker 2: News talks that'd.

1952
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Speaker 3: Be Inte Brady UK correspondence with US.

1953
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Speaker 28: Hello Ender, Hey have our great speak to again.

1954
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Speaker 3: So Europe wants the US jets and Romania does it.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, this is the latest idea about Ukrainian security and

1956
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Speaker 28: also the people of Romania have recent history with what

1957
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Speaker 28: was the Soviet Union invading They don't want to be reinvaded.

1958
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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 28: NATO, it turns out, is building its largest airbase in Romania.

1960
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Speaker 28: And after all of these zoom calls and meetings of

1961
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 28: the Coalition of the Willing this week, the latest idea

1962
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 28: they're proposing for the Americans to get involved with is okay.

1963
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 28: They're not categorically not going to put American troops on

1964
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Speaker 28: the ground in Ukraine. However, would you like to send

1965
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Speaker 28: over some very sophisticated jets that we could put at

1966
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Speaker 28: this airbase we're building in Romania, and that would provide

1967
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 28: security for the Ukrainians and also be very much welcomed

1968
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Speaker 28: by the Romanians. JD Vance, however, has weighed in and said,

1969
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Speaker 28: whatever happens, Europe will be paying for it.

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Speaker 3: So that's not a no.

1971
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Speaker 4: It's not a no.

1972
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Speaker 28: But it's interestingly we haven't heard from Trump yet on this,

1973
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Speaker 28: but Vance, for someone who professes to love Europe and

1974
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 28: was on holidays in England just last week, he certainly

1975
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 28: never weighs in with anything positive to say about Europe

1976
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Speaker 28: or its people, or its leaders, or its security. But

1977
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Speaker 28: perhaps the Americans do have a point that everyone in

1978
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Speaker 28: Europe needs to start stepping up in pain for the

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Speaker 28: continent's defense.

1980
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that certainly seems to are running theme there,

1981
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Speaker 3: doesn't it. Now you guys have had a little surge

1982
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 3: in your inflation. What's caused it?

1983
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Speaker 28: Would you believe? It increases to airfares, chocolate, coffee and

1984
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 28: other food items. So we've gone up to three point

1985
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 28: eight percent in the UK. Now with inflation, it's worrying

1986
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 28: because the Bank of England always sets a target of

1987
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 28: two percent, and we're now pushing towards four. They reckon,

1988
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 28: we'll hit four percent sometimes late September, and this is

1989
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,919
Speaker 28: going to have an impact on anyone with a mortgage

1990
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Speaker 28: because the Bank of England had been cutting interest rates

1991
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 28: and the feeling now is that if inflation hits four percent,

1992
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 28: they won't be able to get away with another interest

1993
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Speaker 28: rate cut before Christmas.

1994
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Speaker 3: So is the feeling that the interest rate surge is

1995
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Speaker 3: not a short lived thing. This is actually sticky.

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Speaker 28: I think it is sticky with inflation. It's not good.

1997
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Speaker 28: But look when the whole Ukraine War happened and Russia's

1998
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Speaker 28: illegal invasion, inflation went up to eleven percent so we

1999
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Speaker 28: have got it under control. It's not as bad as

2000
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Speaker 28: what it was three and a half years ago.

2001
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's good, Okay, what's going wrong with this dolphin?

2002
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 28: So Reggie the dolphin has popped up off the coast

2003
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Speaker 28: of Dorset a place called Lime Bay, and on the

2004
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,839
Speaker 28: face of it, when you see the social media videos

2005
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 28: and the pictures and the world we live in now,

2006
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 28: everyone is going to Lime Bay to swim with a dolphin. However,

2007
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 28: marine wildlife charities and experts have come out and said

2008
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 28: that they are quite concerned about how close people are

2009
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Speaker 28: getting to the dolphin, reminding them that you know, they

2010
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 28: can grow to thirteen feet in length, they can weigh

2011
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 28: five hundred kilos and they're a wild animal. They've also

2012
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 28: noticed some scarring on the dolphin's body, which they believe

2013
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 28: was called because years ago by a propeller from a boat.

2014
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 28: And they're just saying that people don't get in the

2015
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Speaker 28: water with the dolphin, don't swim with it.

2016
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

2017
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Speaker 28: Part of me thinks they're being killed joys, and then

2018
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 28: it's it's like basic comments.

2019
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Speaker 3: When have you ever heard of a dolphin hurting someone exactly?

2020
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Speaker 28: Their charities are saying that they believe the dolphin has

2021
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 28: been targeting women in wet suits and deliberately smashing into them.

2022
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 28: But yeah, look, I haven't seen any video evidence of this.

2023
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Speaker 28: All I've seen is lots of playful pictures of dolphins.

2024
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 28: I mean, we were out on a boat yesterday off

2025
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Speaker 28: the west coast of Ireland and we saw dolphins off

2026
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 28: in Boffin, one of the Irish islands off Galway, and everyone,

2027
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 28: you know, just the joy a dolphin in the sea

2028
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 28: brings to people amazing, amazing, just beautiful. And by the way,

2029
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Speaker 28: we ran into a Keiwi earl yesterday in the bar

2030
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Speaker 28: working in the pub on in Ish Boffin, a girl

2031
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 28: from Rota Rua having her absolute best summer ever. She said,

2032
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Speaker 28: I didn't catch her name, but she's traveling around. She

2033
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 28: got an English boyfriend and they absolutely love traveling and

2034
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 28: working on remote islands. They've done some time on the

2035
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Speaker 28: Silly Islands, Silly islands off Cornwall and and if you

2036
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 28: go on Google Maps, find in Ish buff and it's

2037
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 28: it looks like it should be pronounced in this buffin

2038
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 28: i ni s is the Irish word for island Inish

2039
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 28: buffin bowl fion light cow, the Island of the light

2040
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 28: colored Cow. And there you go go from Rotaro or

2041
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 28: working up there.

2042
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Speaker 3: Oh well, shout out to her, Hey, thank you very

2043
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 3: much and to look after yourself into Brady, UK Correspondent.

2044
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 3: Eight Away from seven, It's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather too to see allan Drive Full show podcast

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2047
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Speaker 3: Isn't it annoying?

2048
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 9: Sex?

2049
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: Away from seven? Isn't it annoying? Do you get that

2050
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 3: when and I'm talking about just what Inda was saying,

2051
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 3: When you go overseas and you say I'm from New

2052
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 3: Zealand and people say to you, oh, I know John

2053
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 3: Smith who lives in Rho and you go, oh, so

2054
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 3: do I. Isn't it annoying when you when you confirm

2055
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,839
Speaker 3: the suspicion that they have that were a tiny country

2056
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 3: and we all know each other because unfortunately, I don't

2057
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 3: know if you if you've had that, but that that

2058
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 3: has happened to be on a number of occasions where

2059
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 3: somebody's like, oh do you know blah blahlah, and I'm like, hmm,

2060
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 3: I actually do know that person. That's weird, isn't it

2061
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 3: the or? And this is even weirder when you go

2062
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: overseas and you bump into somebody that you know. We

2063
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 3: went to Amsterdam years and years and years and years ago,

2064
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 3: before the kids were born, and we been a long

2065
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: time ago now ten years plus. Went to Amsterdam, sat

2066
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 3: down on you know, you go on the canals and

2067
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 3: the little boats and stuff. Sat down on a boat,

2068
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 3: looked up and the husband goes, oh, the mum and

2069
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 3: son there. They were chatting. The husband goes, oh, you've

2070
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 3: got a kew accent. She's like, oh, yeahm from Wellington.

2071
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I live in Wellington. She goes oh.

2072
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, what's school. I don't know how we

2073
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 3: got into schools, which not a Wellington thing, but we

2074
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: had the conversation. She was like, oh, I went to

2075
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 3: blah blah blah school. He goes, oh, do you know

2076
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 3: a shooner and she's like, oh, yeah, shown's my best friend.

2077
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 3: He's like, shown is my best friend. Yes, that does

2078
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 3: happen when you go overseas.

2079
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 26: So anyway, this is kind of a corollary that I

2080
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 26: always don't like as well.

2081
01:37:58,800 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 10: Hither that.

2082
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 27: I remember a few years ago I was at a

2083
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 27: music festival in Ohio and I'm like, okay, here. I

2084
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 27: am a music festival out and the what pops in Ohio.

2085
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 27: I am so far away from any Aussies.

2086
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 26: I do not have to worry what I want. Yeah,

2087
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 26: there will be no Australians at all.

2088
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,560
Speaker 27: And before I know it, the eye walks up to

2089
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 27: me and he's like, oh, you're from New Zealand, mate, Ah,

2090
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 27: do you play rugby made?

2091
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 26: I'd bet you're a prop he ha ha a big fellons.

2092
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I haven't that joke.

2093
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 26: I'm on the other side of the world, you know.

2094
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 26: And the Australians there they.

2095
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 3: Are, Yeah, this is unfaul just because it's because we

2096
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: travel a lot. This is the thing.

2097
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 18: Hey.

2098
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: By the way, whatever, however crap your day was, it

2099
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 3: wasn't as crap as JD. Vance's day. He visited the

2100
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 3: National Guard in Washington. The troops were happy to see him,

2101
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 3: but not the people. You know why they are angry.

2102
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 3: They're angry because JD and Trump put the troops on

2103
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 3: the ground and to protect them, and they don't want

2104
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 3: to be protected. And even when he's talking to the priest,

2105
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 3: guess what you can hear in the background, so.

2106
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 29: You hear these guys outside, they appear to hate the

2107
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,560
Speaker 29: idea that Americans can enjoy their communities, and they do.

2108
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 29: The fact that DC a week ago had a higher

2109
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 29: murder rate than trint it out it's a.

2110
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 15: Big ol ah.

2111
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 3: Anyway, what your day is better than his?

2112
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 18: Ants?

2113
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 26: All right?

2114
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,799
Speaker 27: In color shape Shift at a players out tonight, Duco

2115
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,879
Speaker 27: or David Higgins of whoever it is who runs symphony.

2116
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 27: They're out of control, all right. They're doing a plane rave.

2117
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 27: They're going to throw a symphony event on flight in

2118
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 27: Z one three three to one that's flying from Auckland

2119
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 27: to Sydney on December the fourth, ahead of the symphony

2120
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 27: performance at the Sydney Opera House, shape Shifter will be

2121
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 27: performing Dick Johnson, who picks the Settlers through all the

2122
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 27: symphony shows he'll be performing. They say it will be

2123
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,839
Speaker 27: a full sensory experience for guests cruising across the Tasman.

2124
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 27: Apparently it'll all be perfectly safe. But they're going to

2125
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 27: be messing with the lights and the sounds and all

2126
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 27: that on the flight over there.

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01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 3: Are you telling us about this in the hope that

2128
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 3: they invite you on this flight, because this feels like

2129
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 3: a bit of ants.

2130
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 26: Time, you know what I mean? If I have to

2131
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 26: fly to Sydney, this is probably be the way I

2132
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 26: want to do it.

2133
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, there we go. So yeah, So just putting

2134
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Speaker 3: it out there. Answers available that day. Whatever that day is,

2135
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 3: answers available that day. See you tomorrow. Enjoy Evening news

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Speaker 3: Talks dB.

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Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive.

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