1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, these reviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your Property search simple 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: news talks. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: It'd be is according to you, Robin to the program. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: Ryan's back on Tuesday. Thank you for choosing us. In 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: the next sixty minutes, Well, it's the Reserve Bank stay 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: today and what a week to be center stage. What 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: will happen to our interest rates in this rapidly changing world. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: We'll have that story for you in five now. The 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: first Australian election debate happened last night. We're getting a 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: correspondent up very early in Australia to tell us how 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: it went and who won. I'll talk about the big 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: challenge for arang and Tamariki to keep our kids safe. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: And a new ministerial report shows that organized crime has 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: exploded in New Zealand over the past five years. So 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: what are we going to do about it? Associate Minister 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: of Police Casey Cassella just before six this plas Gavin 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Gray from the UK. Correspondents from right around New Zealand 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: and news as it breaks and you can have your 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: say by using the text machine and the number is 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two and a small duplies. It is 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: seven alf to five. 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: The agenda. 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the ninth of April. First and update 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: on the markets. The US stocks and European and Asian 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: markets have all seemed to have stabilized, but the fight's 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: not over for China. Why House Secretary Treasury Secretary Scott 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: percent has called Beijing's response to US tariff's a very 29 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: big mistake. Trump has threatened to hit Beijing with an 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: extra fifty percent tariff if it doesn't withdraw it's thirty 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: four percent retaliatory levy by the end of today. 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say that Trump threw that 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: coved war before China even had a chance to So 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 3: I think it's quite clear that China wants to put 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: some opportunity cost against the Trump administration. But at the 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: same time, these tariffs are not really a problem for China. 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 3: So this could very much well be just a little 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: bit of kabooki dancing before we are having real negotiations starting. 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, New Zealand rebounded yesterday. There's a bit of a 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: hope around the place that we will not be hit 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: as hard as others in this new age, and that's 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: a good thing. Now to the UK, where Prince Harry 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: has been in a UK Court of Appeal making his 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: latest legal challenge. This after the High Court upheld the 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: decision that he should not be provided with the same 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: level of police protection given to working members of the 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: royal family. Now, the Duke of Sussex's security in the 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: UK is currently decided on a case by case basis, 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: the same way as the country's other high profile visitors, 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: and his barrister, Shahid Fatimah KC told the court that 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: Prince Harry had been subject to a different and so 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: called bespoke process in that original decision. 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: While it is right to acknowledge that Ravak has expertise 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: in relation to matters of protective security, the nature of 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: the issues raised by this case do not require the 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: court to defer to Rabak. The judge wrongly deferred to Rabak. 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: And finally, what can't science do? A baby girl has 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: been the first child in the UK to be born 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: to a mother using a donated womb. The baby's mum, 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Grace Davidson, was born without a functioning uterus, and she 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: received her sister's womb in twenty twenty three in what 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: was then the UK's only successful womb transplant, and two 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: years after that pioneering operation, Grace gave birth to her 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: first child in February. 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 5: Oh, she's a little miracle. 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: We'd never really love ourselves imagine what it'd be like 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: for her to be here until we sort of saw 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: her come up over the dreeps. 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: So it was really wonderful. Congratulations mum. It's ten Out 70 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: to five. 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple, Youth Talks. 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 6: It'd be so. 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: We like to think we're the nice guys of the world. 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: Visitors come to New Zealand and remark on just how 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: nice we are, how the cops have no guns, and 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: how we're a reminder of how the world used to 79 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: be before anger, division and disrespect for rules and people 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: took over. We're a lovely place with nice people. But 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: now the Speaker of the House is talking up legislation 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: to provide more protection for our elected representatives. And this 83 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: comes this week after Shane Jones's wife was hassled and 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: allegedly assaulted just because he's married to Shane. Meanwhile, Awkins 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: mayor Wayne Brown. He lives in a street right opposite 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: my brother, and my brother is absolutely gobsmacked at the 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: increased security on the street. And that has come after 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: death threats to the mayor, and they increased after the 89 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: mayor gave the death knock to the Western Spring Speedway. Obviously, 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: there's a lot of very angry New Zealanders and faced 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: with challenging policies, they respond with threats of physical violence. 92 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: It's not nice. So far, they've really succeeded, though James 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: Shaw earned a decent black eye for standing up for 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: what he believed in back in the day. But you 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: have to say, it's only a matter of time, and 96 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: it is only a matter of time until someone does 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: something stupid and someone is hurt and all they're trying 98 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: to do is help us out. But what does this 99 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: also do to the numbers of people who might put 100 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: their hand up for public office but then think twice 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: when they realize the danger it poses. And I know 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: that me railing on about how terrible this is will 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: make no difference whatsoever. But if we don't say something, 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: the bullies will win. We're better than this, So before 105 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: you decide to go nuclear against someone you don't agree with, 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: particularly me. Have a hymn dickens I see that David 107 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Parker is to quit politics. The former Labor Minister was 108 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: the backbone of the party. He's been the Attorney General. 109 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: His portfolios have included trade, revenue, economic development, climate change, energy. 110 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: I don't like everything. He's an old pro He's also 111 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: been the chief proponent for tax changes that would affect 112 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: the wealthy. At the last election, he was the main 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: cheerleader for the capital gains tax. He pushed for it 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: under Arden durn should I say, and he pushed for 115 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: it under Hipkins, but Chris blew it up in what 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: was called the Bonfire of the Policies because Turkeys don't 117 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: vote for Cris and anyone who's worked hard and attained 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: a capital asset that appreciates hates it. And they're not 119 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: going to vote for a capital gains tax, no matter 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: how much economic sense it might make. And that's not 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: because they are rich pricks. That's because they've watched previous 122 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: generations earn capital gains without penalty, So why should they so? 123 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: With David Parker gone, who will fight for the rebalancing 124 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 2: of our system that currently sees a lot of money 125 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: made with no contribution towards the running of the country. 126 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: And the answer to that question is nobody. Labor has 127 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: just lost one of the last links to their old 128 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: selves and so far they haven't found a new vision 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: to subscribe to. And with David Parker gone, the question 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: remains louder than ever, what do labor actually stand for? 131 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens, Oh, see our day today? What a day. 132 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: I would say that things over the last week have 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: changed the view of the new Reserve Bank Governor, Christian Hawksby, 134 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: who by the way, has got the job for another 135 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: six month. So what do the experts reckon? We'll go 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: to an expert from Jarden's in just a few moments time. 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: News Talks Here, b it's five fourteen. 138 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 139 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make 140 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: your Property search simple News Talk. 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Said, be it's sixteen after five. We're going to talk 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: about a rang and Tomariki and Karen Shure in just 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: a few moments time. But today is ocr day and 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: this is where they decide the interest rates. Most economists reckon, 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: We're going to see a twenty five basis point cut, 146 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: and the Februy update from the Reserve Bank suggests that 147 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: that could be likely. But you know, things have changed. 148 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Tarif's been thrown in every direction globally. It's a little 149 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: uncerting right now. What would the bank do? So I've 150 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: got investment strategists and economists at Jarden John Karen up 151 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: early to talk to me. 152 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 7: How John, Yeah, good morning, Andrew. 153 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: What are you picking? 154 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm picking a twenty five based point cut. I 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 7: think the strong indicator that's what they'll do. Obviously, there's 156 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 7: been a lot of turmoil and uncertainty your markets with 157 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 7: Trump's tariffs, but I think it's too early for the 158 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 7: Reserve Bank to panic and do anything more than twenty 159 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 7: five based points at this point. 160 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: Do you reckon the tariffs are inflation really globally? And 161 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: of course the weapon against inflation is to keep the 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: interest rates a little high. Do you think that the 163 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: tariffs are inflationary? 164 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 7: Look, it's very hard to tell. I mean, there's so 165 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 7: many things that could determine the impact on inflation. So 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 7: I think certainly it could be inflationary in the United States, 167 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: where the primary impact is. But here in New Zealand. 168 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 7: We're not putting tariffs on US goods. It's not entirely 169 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 7: certain what that impact will be, so I think we 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 7: have to wait for the evidence in the full nature 171 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 7: of the tariffs to make that call. 172 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: That's all very logical, but of course he don't live 173 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: logical age. What do you think? What do you think 174 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank might say about the economy in general? 175 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they will note that the US, the 176 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 7: New Zealand economy has shown signs of that it's sort 177 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 7: of turning point. There have been some more positive signs 178 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 7: in the New Zealand economy recently, so they will be 179 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 7: cautiously optimistic, I think, And I think they will indicate 180 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 7: that they still see inflation pressures under control at this point, 181 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 7: but you know they will sound a note of caution, 182 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 7: particularly about the effect of those tariffs on global economic 183 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 7: growth and the impact on New Zealand exports. 184 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: I'll take cautiously optimistic every day, John, John Karen from 185 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: Jardin's and I thank you for your time. It is 186 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: eighteen minutes out to five. The Australian election campaign is 187 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: in its second week. The two leaders faced off last 188 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: night in a debate in front of an audience of 189 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: allegedly singing voters. Yeah, Peter Dutton described as the ex 190 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: cop who brought Australia's opposition back from the brink, and 191 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: of course the Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi, who's described as 192 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: the working class hero who fell out of favor. So 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: what happened that story? Next on Newstalk Zibby. 194 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: The First Word on the News of the Day Early 195 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room to Make Your 196 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: Property Surgeon Symbol News Talk Zibby. 197 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: It's coming up five to twenty one on a Wednesday morning. 198 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: Australian Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi and his election rival Peter 199 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: Dutton faced off last night in their first debate before 200 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: the federal election, which is to happen on the third 201 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: of May. 202 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 8: The world has shrown a lot of challenges to Australia 203 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 8: in the last few years and we've responded the Australian way. 204 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 8: What this selection is about, though. 205 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 9: Is what happens next. 206 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 10: People have seen the government make mistakes priorities, but just 207 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 10: having accorded with your own priorities. 208 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So cost of living issues dominated the debate, but 209 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: there were some good one liners on energy. 210 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 8: The only dash Poul said that the coalition have as 211 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 8: the gas lighting of the Australian public. 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: And they were asked about US President Donald Trump's tariffs. 213 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 8: When you impost tariffs, it's attacks on the country that 214 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 8: is imposing it. 215 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 10: Whatever is thrown at us. The Prime Minister of the 216 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 10: day should have the ability of the strength of character 217 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 10: to be able to stand up against bullies, against those 218 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 10: that would seek to do us harm, to keep our 219 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 10: country safe and to make sure that we can make 220 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 10: the right economic decisions for our country. 221 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: So Australian correspondent Leslie Yeomans has been getting the reaction 222 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: for us and we've got her up very early indeed 223 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: in Australia. Thank you so much, Lesie. Good morning to you. 224 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: Good morning Andrew skycoarder for Albernezi. Was he the obvious winner? 225 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: It appears so. 226 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 5: Yes. 227 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 6: One hundred undecided voters were invited to this first debate 228 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 6: and they were the ones who were asking the questions 229 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 6: and then would eventually at the end of the debate 230 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 6: give their assessment of who won and possibly who they 231 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 6: would vote for, mentioning those those tariffs from the US. 232 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 6: Donald Trump was the first. In the first question that 233 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 6: was put to Alberan Easy. It was the only time 234 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 6: he was ever mentioned, so he got one mention and 235 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 6: that was it, and then they moved on to other things. 236 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 6: The debate basically was a sort of policy driven I 237 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 6: guess all the questions that were asked were about the 238 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: main policy issues from both parties, immigration, health, education, and Yes, 239 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: cost of living. 240 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Is cost of living the number one issue? 241 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 6: Yes, it is, Yeah, because that's what's hurting people the most. 242 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 6: And there's so much going on with what is going 243 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 6: on overseas that I think also a lot of people 244 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 6: just don't get that. Sometimes it doesn't matter what anyone does, 245 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 6: things are going to sort of be going downhill because 246 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 6: of overseas influences. A lot of stuff that can be 247 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 6: done over here as well in your home country, but 248 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 6: there are a lot of outside influences that are going 249 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 6: to cause some issues. Just like watching the stock market 250 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 6: go down, peoples overhear their superannuation, which is invested in 251 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 6: goodness knows what is sort of being affected. Yes, So 252 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 6: there was a lot of cost of living issues mentioned 253 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 6: last night, and concerns regarding energy policy as well, and 254 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: how the government is going to try and help people 255 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 6: cope with those growing energy bills. 256 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: Is it going to be a close one? 257 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 6: Most elections are these days, particularly seeing that there are 258 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 6: other with the two major parties, one of their main 259 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 6: concerns now is what's going to happen with some of 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 6: the independence what we call overhere the teal independence, And 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 6: they're sort of growing in number, and it's going to 262 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 6: be interesting to see if some more of those teal 263 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 6: independence can middle away at the major parties in some 264 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 6: of those of those seats, and more of them are 265 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 6: coming forward. 266 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and are you going to be able to get 267 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: back to seat this morning? 268 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 6: Yes? 269 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: Good and I thank you for your time today. Lisie 270 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeomens is our Australian correspondent. I mean, just look at 271 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: the time. I can't believe she got up for us. 272 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's five twenty four. We were 273 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: talking about Oranga tom Ariki yesterday. A new reporters come out. 274 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: I want to have some thoughts about that in a 275 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: sec The. 276 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Early Edition Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News 277 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Talk ZIB. 278 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: News TALKSB. I'm Andrew Dickins. It is fire twenty seven. 279 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: So Aranga Tamariki is getting rid of its target to 280 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: place fifty eight percent of the kids in its care 281 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: with widerfino or family, and it's also ditching a target 282 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: for investment with Maori organizations. Twenty three percent of their 283 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: funding was targeted for organizations with Maori and EWE links. 284 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: The Minister of Children, Karen Tua, says this is part 285 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: of OT's safety first approach, and she said the targets 286 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: were outdated and went against the need not race direct 287 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: to and she was concerned whether the priority of mary 288 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: organizations were getting in the way of the quality and 289 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: efficacy of the services being provided. And all of that 290 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: makes sense to me. The ingrained belief in our children's 291 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: social workers that kids are always better off if rehome 292 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: with farno or family always seemed counterfactual to me, because 293 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: in many cases the abuse directed at the kids was 294 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: at the hand of farno or family themselves, people that 295 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: have been raised by other people in their family but 296 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: failed at their own parenting. So why would we give 297 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: the kids back to the people that raise the people 298 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: who can't raise the kids. It often seemed to me 299 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: that children were being thrown right back into the very 300 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: cauldron we were trying to help them escape from and 301 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: there have been generations of examples, haven't there. Let's not 302 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: forget baby Ru. I haven't mentioned Ru's name for a while. 303 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: He was murdered in October twenty twenty three. Nobody has 304 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: been charged for killing him. There was anger then and 305 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: anger now when the police were worth there when he suffered, 306 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: or sorry when the people who were there when he 307 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: suffered did not cooperate with the police. They were there, 308 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: they say nothing. Those people were and are Rosie Moronga, 309 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: her partner, Dylan Ross, and Ru's mother Storm Wall. They 310 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: were and they are Ruse Farno. What happened people, It's 311 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: being two years and two Christmas is what happened two birthdays. 312 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: The uplifting of kids is a very serious thing, and 313 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: they need to be housed in safe places with good people. 314 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: But the history of oranga tamariki suggests that too many 315 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: of the supposed saviors are in fact predators hiding in 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: plain sight. There is no easy answer to this, which 317 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: is why I've spoken about this for decades. And the 318 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: only thing we can have is strong vigilance by our agencies, 319 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: by oranga tamariki, And the only thing we can hope 320 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: for is that good people forward to help the kids 321 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: that have been abused Dickens, it's five nine. A bit 322 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: of exciting around of course, that Bruce Springsteen is releasing 323 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: not one, but seven new albums in June, and the 324 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: first single was released yes, oh no, five days ago. 325 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Finally I got to hear it yesterday because there's a 326 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: new lyric video out, so I'll play you a bit 327 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: of it and tell you some of the reaction to 328 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: the song. Isn't any good? Is the question? Plus? Organized 329 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: crime has exploded in New Zealand over the past five years. 330 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: We have a ministerial report. So here we go again. 331 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: What are we going to do about it? You've got 332 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: Early Edition with Andrew Dickens here till Monday. This is 333 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: News Talk. Set me. 334 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on Early Edition Andrew Dickens 335 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: and one roof make your property search simple News Talks. 336 00:17:47,760 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: It'd be around. 337 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 6: Him. 338 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, good morning. My manager is welcome back to 339 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: the program and thank you for turning to us. Now 340 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: that is what the world's been waiting for. Apparently, the 341 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: new single from Bruce Springsteen released five days ago. Last 342 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: night they dropped a lyric video on YouTube. If you 343 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: want to watch it and I listened to it last 344 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: night and that was the first time I've heard it, 345 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: And frankly, I think it's a bit of a dirge, 346 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and there might be a 347 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: reason why he hasn't released this stuff but the whole 348 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: seven albums, because you know, And is this the best 349 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: song of the seventy three songs that he's releasing. I 350 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: hope not. But Bruce fans are Bruce fans. And I 351 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: was looking at the video and I love the review 352 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: from a Bruce fan. I'm going to read it out. 353 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: Listen to this love how With only seven lines, Bruce 354 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: creates a haunting, lyrical narrative that channels the mythos of 355 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: Southern vigilante dust mool blues and folk of the thirties, 356 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: and weaves that tapantry with a simple yet raw, brass knuck, 357 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: larger than life musical arrangement that, in my opinion, feels 358 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: more introspective, reflective, and full of unsatisfied anger and Catharsis 359 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: after killing the woman he loves off for goodness, state 360 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: man steady on. Now do we like cops on the beat? Yes, 361 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: we do. A taxpayer courier hole shows that sixty six 362 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: percent of us feel safer with cops on the beat, 363 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: only ten percent feel ly safe. The real irony came 364 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: in this poll. Amongst Green voters, forty eight percent feel 365 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: more safe and only nineteen percent feel less safe, which 366 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: all makes a mockery of Green MP Tamotha Paul's claims 367 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: that we don't want to see cops everywhere and they 368 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: make us feel uneasy. Talk to your people, Tamitha. It 369 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: shows what we all know, and that's that Tamotha Paul 370 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: does not speak for a lot of us, and her 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: feelings are based on a small minority of her constituents 372 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: who feel targeted and profiled. And that may be because 373 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: they've got something lurking beneath to feel guilty about and 374 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: it shows up in their demeanor. Paul's only point worth 375 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: considering is her core for services to target, put services 376 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: to target, preventing people getting into crime in the first place. 377 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: Right now, Tamotha, when you come up with a workable 378 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: idea for that, maybe we should also send you out 379 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: on a hunt for a unicorn in the wild. It 380 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: is twenty one to six Andrew dickens around the country. 381 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: We go callen Proctor from Dunedin. Good morning, morning, Andrew 382 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: ten centimeters of snow at Cardrona. 383 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 11: Ow and it felt like it yesterday too. Here a 384 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 11: first taste of winter and it's so building excitement for 385 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 11: ski fields, notably Kadrona Alpine Resort that's the one near Wanaka. 386 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 11: They work up to ten centimeters of the white stuff 387 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 11: around the mountain yesterday. Of course other fields in the 388 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 11: region also getting a dusting, but Kadrona's on track to 389 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 11: overtake Fucker Parper as New Zealand's largest ski field when 390 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 11: it opens one hundred and fifty hectares of new terrain. 391 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 11: The general managers Laura Headley, She says they're working hard 392 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 11: to finish multiple including this new express sharelift and t bar. 393 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 11: She says it's going to be a lot of new terrain, 394 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 11: about the size of one hundred and fifty football fields. 395 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: I booked my holiday to go and ski the Soho 396 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: Basin a year and a half ago because I am 397 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: so excited. How's your weather today. 398 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 11: Well, no sign of any snow today. It's better day 399 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 11: find today for duneed and cloudy period sou westeries and seventeen. 400 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: Player sure it joins you from Christier Telly Claire. 401 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 12: Good morning. 402 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: So the whole tsunami warning system scenario, well. 403 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 13: The tsunami warning system scenario, it's gone from one thing 404 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 13: to the next over the last few days. The forty 405 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 13: five sirens here in christ Church that cover the area 406 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 13: along the coastline between Brooklyn's and Taylor's mistake were meant 407 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 13: to sound at eleven o'clock on Sunday morning, but they 408 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 13: simply didn't. And that's because the person responsible, we've now learned, 409 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 13: was dealing with a car which had crashed outside their property. 410 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 13: Council's head of Community Support and Partnerships, John phil sal 411 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 13: says it's unacceptable that we have an emergency system so 412 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 13: dependent on person. But overnight's the coastal counselor so lest 413 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 13: Donovan's taken it one further. She's revealed that it's unacceptable 414 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 13: the sirens are not triggered locally. In fact, she says 415 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 13: these sirens are operated by a small company in Auckland, 416 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 13: and she claims they're using outdated technology. Discussions are underway 417 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 13: with the external supplier to ensure this can't happen again, 418 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 13: while another test of our sirens will be done. 419 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 12: Over the next few weeks. Is still yet to confirm 420 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 12: a date for that. 421 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: How's your weather today? 422 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 13: Fine? With Southwesterly's dying out a bit later and Hive eighteen. 423 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Wellington hall Imax, good morning, 424 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: what do you know about Andrew Little running from air? 425 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 14: Yeah? Great story from our news remethan minera yet late 426 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 14: yesterday it does seem very legitimate that Little is considering 427 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 14: a tilt at the city's top job. What's been interesting 428 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 14: is about the instant reaction is that Andrew Little appears 429 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 14: to be a guy who's pretty broadly liked across the spectrum. 430 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 14: He got some praise from Winston Peters even, who reckons 431 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 14: first and foremost it'd be a lot more sane and 432 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 14: rational than the current holder of offers some national voices 433 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 14: on social media as well, expressing cautious support. Little says 434 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 14: a lot of people have been asking him to run. 435 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 14: We've well documented the Labour's struggle to find a viable 436 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 14: candidate to take on Torrifino. Little says the city does 437 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 14: need a change, and he'll announce more at a later date. 438 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 14: How's your weather mostly find Southerly's sixteenth central. 439 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: Never read a mana joins us formalkanhell and either reatings 440 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: so Orkin has love to know what their property's worth, 441 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: but there's a delay in finding that out. 442 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 12: Oh, this is like a delay of a delay of 443 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 12: a delay, Andrew so Augland Council. They completed the new 444 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 12: valuations by last May, but release of the capital values 445 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 12: data now that's been pushed back a second time from 446 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 12: next month to an unknown date this year. So the 447 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 12: figures applied to more than six hundred thousand properties. So 448 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 12: this initial delay was because the Valuer General requested an amendments. 449 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 12: So fingers crossed that they're hoping to confirm a new 450 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 12: date in May May next month. 451 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: How's Awkin's weather? 452 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 12: Mainly fine. We've got a few showers are clearing early afternoon. 453 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 12: Twenty is the high here? 454 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: It is now seventeen to six. Now, earlier I mentioned 455 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Tamiki the change of targets there. I also mentioned the 456 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: case of baby Rue and Lorraine has made a very 457 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: good point. She says, good morning, Andrew. Now after baby Route, 458 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: Now do the little five year old Pakihat boy whose 459 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: auntie and uncle went to court to try and get 460 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: custody because they knew he was unsafe, but his imprisoned 461 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: mother gave custody to her friend who then killed him. 462 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: Let's hear you talk about this little guy or are 463 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: you just doing Malori? Lorraine, very good point. The funding 464 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: for Mali organizations by Tamriki was targeted at twenty three percent, 465 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: so there's another seventy seven percent that goes towards everybody 466 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: else in New Zealand. And this problem is not just 467 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: a Milord problem. This is also a European and Asian 468 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: problem as well. And you're right. All kids that suffer 469 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: at the hands of their parents and then at the 470 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 2: hands of their caregivers to be remembered, no matter what 471 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: the color of this skin. So thank you the rain. 472 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: It is sixteen minutes to sixth Prince Harry is in 473 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: court again. He wants more cops when he comes to 474 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: the UK because he does not feel safe. Kevin Grays with. 475 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: A Snakes International correspondence with ins andn Eye Insurance Peace 476 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business. 477 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 2: Way after the UK. Kevin greg good morning to here 478 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 2: hither Andrew. What a good job it is to be 479 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: Prince Harry's lawyer because he's in court a lot. 480 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 9: He is and it seems to be one of the 481 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 9: few reasons he comes back to the UK At the moment. 482 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 9: I don't think it's going to help his popularity. But 483 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 9: he's back in court, this time the Court of Appeal 484 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 9: to challenge an earlier High Court decision which went against him. 485 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 9: This is all about the level of security he receives 486 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 9: when he's in the UK. 487 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 7: Now. 488 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 9: The committee that sits to decide on this automatically, of course, 489 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 9: gives security to working royals. He is no longer a 490 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 9: working royal and so the Duke's secure in the UK 491 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 9: is currently decided on a case by case basis like 492 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 9: any other high profile visitor to the UK. Prince Harry 493 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 9: sat in the back of the court today with a 494 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 9: notepad and pen. He didn't give evidence. It's a two 495 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 9: day hearing and then a decision will be made at 496 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 9: a later date. Interestingly, his legal representative saying that he 497 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 9: should have been told how the decisions about security were 498 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 9: being made. She's not arguing that he should automatically be 499 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 9: entitled to the same protection he was previously given. Anyway, 500 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 9: Prince Harry claimed that he had not been given the 501 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 9: chance to make his own case or see the risk 502 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 9: assessments and also outlined some incidents that had happened, which 503 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 9: he says was a danger because his security had been downgraded, 504 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 9: including a car pursuit with paparazzi in New York so 505 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 9: that's not the UK, and also Al Qaeda calling for 506 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 9: the prince to be murdered back in twenty twenty. As 507 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 9: I said a decision would be made at a later date. 508 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, I wish him lack but when he quit 509 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: the job, basically he's ended up being just the same 510 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: as Brad Pitt and Taylor Swift, So you know what 511 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: could he expect Anyway, The big story around the world's 512 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: the tariffs and the reaction on the on the sheer 513 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: markets and the stock market. So European indices rose what 514 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: three percent after the week of tariff So is a 515 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: bit of a rebound, Yes, a. 516 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 9: Little bit of a rebound obviously awaiting this big decision 517 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 9: day now on the tariff war as it were between 518 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 9: the US and China and for US on the sideline. Well, yeah, 519 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 9: more positive territory today. The foot Sea one hundred up 520 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 9: two point seven percent, the CAC forty in Paris up 521 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 9: two point five percent, the Dack's up two and a 522 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 9: half percent. But when you look at how they've gone down, 523 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 9: all the three indices reached their record highs last month 524 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 9: since then, the foot Sea one hundred down eleven percent, 525 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 9: the CAC in Paris down fourteen percent, and the same 526 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 9: for the DAKS down fourteen percent. So huge losses. And 527 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 9: although today, yes, some positive news, well I'm afraid there's 528 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 9: an awful long way to go besween these share values 529 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 9: actually start to recover significantly. 530 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and to figure out the whole ramifications of you're 531 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: a very wise man for saying that, And I thank 532 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: you for your time today, Gavin great out of the UK. 533 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: It's eleven to six. All right, boy, there's a hell 534 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: of a report out. It's from the Ministerial Advisory Group 535 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Targeting Transnational Organized Crime and it's releasing his first report 536 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: this morning. It shows a substantial increase in organized crime 537 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: over the past five years. It shows surges and methamphetamine usage, 538 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: which we already knew. It shows growth in cyber fraud. 539 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: So the Associate Minister of Police, Casey Costello, is the 540 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: minister responsible for the working group, and of course sees 541 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: a police minister. She joins me. Now, good morning to you, Casey. 542 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 5: Good morning. 543 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 6: How are you. 544 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 2: It's good, it's a bad it's a bad picture of 545 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: what is seemingly a bad land. 546 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: Yes, And that's the big part is the first report 547 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 5: is about buildewenis about what the real is as we're 548 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 5: dealing with as a government. We've done a lot of 549 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: work around the public facing stuff that people see, the 550 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 5: game patches, the sentence thing, but this is what's in 551 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 5: behind driving this crime trend that we need to get 552 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 5: on top of. And the first part is building at 553 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 5: public awareness. 554 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: The report then goes on to say information sharing is 555 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 2: as a critical problem and you need to work on 556 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: that first. But I would say that most of the 557 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: people out and about go, yeah, well you shouldn't share 558 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: information anyway, When are we going to hit the crimins? 559 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: So this is the part. It's about a step change 560 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: in the way we approach. We have always operated in 561 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: silos and our enforcement agencies we work cooperatively at the 562 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: ground level. We haven't been very good at a high 563 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 5: level allowing these leavers to be pulled. And that's the part. 564 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 5: We have seen a change. 565 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 7: You saw media. 566 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: Yesterday about the increase of work that I idea doing. 567 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: We are seeing a change in that environment, and we 568 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 5: just know that we can do more, and it's about 569 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 5: being clear about what it is we're trying to do now. 570 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: The one thing we're getting a lot of headlines on 571 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: because of the waste water and because of the arrest 572 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: is meth usage that has absolutely skyrocketed. It's doubled over 573 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: the year, and the report shows that we used to 574 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: stop fifty five kilograms of meth a year decade on, 575 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: we're now stopping ninety kilograms of week. You are also 576 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: the Minister for Customs. Does this concern you? Is our 577 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: border security working? Can you actually harden this out? 578 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 7: Well? 579 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 5: The good news in that story is that nearly half 580 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 5: of the drugs we're stopping, we're stopping outside of our border, 581 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 5: so they're not even on New Zealand shores when we 582 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 5: get it. So that shows our international relationships, our intelligence 583 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 5: sharing across the world is really god and we're targeting 584 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 5: supply chains well. But we can do more, and there's 585 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 5: a whole range of leaders that I know we can poll. 586 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 5: I started this work when we first started talking about 587 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 5: what we can do. We started this work and Cabinet 588 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: signed us off in November last year, so we were 589 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 5: gearing up for this for some time, and now we're 590 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 5: heaving the rubber hitting the road. 591 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: Okay, well when will the rubber hit the road? Because 592 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: you know what everyone has said and even this report say, 593 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: is that successive government's policies failures have been rearranging the 594 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: dictators on the Titanic. So when can you give us 595 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: a timeline of when you might actually make some bold 596 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: changes to legislation that fights the surge in organized crime? 597 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 5: The big thing is that we want to be making 598 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 5: sure we're doing the right thing. That's why we've set 599 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 5: up this group of experts that work operationally, understand what 600 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 5: it's like in the field, and know what we can 601 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 5: do better. This isn't about policy people writing an action plan. 602 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 5: So each month's a report will be delivered from the 603 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 5: Advisory Group with specific actions that they recommend the government 604 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 5: does that. The first report was just setting the scene, 605 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: making sure people understand the gravity of the situation we're 606 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 5: dealing with. And each month up until the final report 607 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 5: in September, we will be delivering on specific actions that 608 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 5: this government can do to move faster. 609 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: So will we get an action plan this year? 610 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 5: That this is more than an action plan? This is 611 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 5: specific actions we will do each month that the group 612 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 5: will no. 613 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 2: I mean I mean by the bold legislation, the actually 614 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: confronting the problem, not actually identifying the problem, but confronting 615 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: the problem. Will you confront the problem this year? 616 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, That's what I'm saying. Each month there will 617 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 5: be things that we will be doing, specific actions we 618 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 5: will be doing around how the agencies work closer together, 619 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 5: breaking down those barriers, around information sharing, how we target 620 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 5: the money better, how we disrupt and prevent our borders 621 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 5: from being compromised. We as a nation should be the 622 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 5: very best in the world doing this. We have one 623 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: and one border, one enforcement agency, one justice system, and 624 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 5: I know we can do better. 625 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: Ok Sie, I thank you so very very much. We 626 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: always are very good at identifying the problem. The trick 627 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: is actually solving it. 628 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 629 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make your property search simple, 630 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: you talk said be. 631 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: By the way, Kios Sarma so Kis Starmer, the Prime 632 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Minister of the UK, has written a piece and it's 633 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: been printed in the Herald today and he kind of 634 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: says what I said in the first place, that the 635 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: age of rules and regulations and civil government has gone. 636 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: And welcome to the age of deals and alliances. I 637 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: call it the age of the blocks, the bricks versus 638 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: versus the Aussies and the Australasians and all that sort 639 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: of thing. It's in the Herald today. Mike Hosking is 640 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: on the radio today. Good morning, good morning, good news 641 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: on building for you. I've got good news on universities 642 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: for you this morning. I've got good news on the 643 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: rugby for you this morning, say the Herald. No, it's 644 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: on the app on the I've been on the up 645 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: before the Herald even worked out well on the up 646 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: with what was about. So the only bad news work 647 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: that organized current thing. So we'll talk about that so 648 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: plenty going on this one. Good stuff that my thanks 649 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: to producer Kensey, and I'm back again tomorrow. I have 650 00:33:51,040 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: yourself a great and productive day. Bye m hmm. 651 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 652 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: to News Talks it B from five am weekdays, or 653 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio. 654 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 8: H