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Speaker 1: Another one of these light at the end of the

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Speaker 1: tunnel reports, chief financial officers CFOs have been surveyed, what

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Speaker 1: have we got? Thirty percent say they're filling up beat

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Speaker 1: or bullish about company performance in the next year. Forty

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Speaker 1: two percent the next twelve months will be challenging on

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Speaker 1: the economic front, but they're still room for growth. Hunter

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Speaker 1: Kemball Managing director Lee Marshalls with us on this lead

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Speaker 1: morning to you, good one and Mike, So, if you've

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Speaker 1: got a word for this, what are we optimistic, cup beat,

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Speaker 1: cautiously hopeful?

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Speaker 2: What? Yeah, all of the above. Really the report covers

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Speaker 2: sort of quite a lot of ground, but I think

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Speaker 2: the overall the overarching scene definitely is that there's a

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Speaker 2: surprisingly strong outlook for the year ahead.

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Speaker 1: Just for the non aficionado, what's a cfo's value and

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Speaker 1: role in why are you interviewing them as opposed to

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Speaker 1: CEOs or anybody else.

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Speaker 2: CFOs take a macro and micro economic view of their

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Speaker 2: business and the broader economy on a daily basis. They're

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Speaker 2: often the co pilot to the CEO and our and

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Speaker 2: do a lot of heavy lifting. They're obviously also in

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Speaker 2: charge of all of the financial accounting, financial reporting and

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Speaker 2: often the budgeting and forecast and looking forward as well.

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Speaker 2: So they're really well positioned to comment on how things

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Speaker 2: are looking for the year ahead. And we really wanted

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Speaker 2: to commissions say they to give them a voice to

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Speaker 2: be heard.

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Speaker 1: Really finger on the pulse. People sick to variability, regional variability.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing anything there, not hugely.

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Speaker 2: I think the overall New Zealand economy is in a

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Speaker 2: position which we are starting to see a little bit

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Speaker 2: of hope. There's a lot of focus on you know, look,

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Speaker 2: they can't control the economy necessarily, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: focus on internal matters as well, so looking at strong

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Speaker 2: work and culture, attracting and retaining talent. Interesting. They almost

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Speaker 2: all CFOs commented that they found it hard to find

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Speaker 2: the right skill set for their teams. So we're definitely

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Speaker 2: still in this in the set line.

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Speaker 1: The to me, we have been flattered with people into

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Speaker 1: this country. The pressure is going on the unemployed, so

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Speaker 1: they're coming in. I mean, what else do we have

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Speaker 1: to do to get the right people in the right places.

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Speaker 2: Look, it really is set to dependent and I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at this from an accounting on finance perspective. We aren't

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Speaker 2: bringing in the right talent for that accounting of finance

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Speaker 2: industry we've also been losing for quite a few years now.

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Speaker 2: One way traffic of kiwis going to do the great

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Speaker 2: owe to London and accountants and the lacks of lawyers

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Speaker 2: as well certainly do that all of the time. Which

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Speaker 2: what we haven't seen is people come back home. Yet

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Speaker 2: we're on the ground in London in June and we're

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Speaker 2: starting to see some keywis looking to head home, which

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Speaker 2: is fantastic. The challenge now is can the economy be

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Speaker 2: in a strong enough position to actually give them jobs,

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Speaker 2: because if they land here and don't get them one

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Speaker 2: of their options, they might across the ditch and I

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Speaker 2: go back to the UK exactly well.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the insightly Marshall, who's the Hunter Campbell managing director

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