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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies, and the big conversations.

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Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your

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Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talks ED B.

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Speaker 2: Thek you cud, Good afternoon. Welcome into the Saturday edition

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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks NB for October four.

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Speaker 2: Happy twenty ninth birthday to one test All Blacks first

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Speaker 2: five Brett Cameron, and Happy sixty fifth to former All

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Speaker 2: Blacks front rower and enforcer Kevin Borovich. I'm Jason Pine

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Speaker 2: here talking sport until three. It does I have to

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Speaker 2: say seema, but on not broadcasting from a bar somewhere,

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Speaker 2: as I've been lucky enough to do several times over

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Speaker 2: the last few weekends. Back in studio today, but with

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Speaker 2: a brilliant lineup for you this afternoon after two. One

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Speaker 2: of our best ever basketballers and now one of the

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Speaker 2: world's foremost sporting executives. Brooklyn Nets general manager Sean Marks

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Speaker 2: joins us ahead of the new NBA season getting under way.

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Speaker 2: He's with us after the two o'clock News. I hope

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Speaker 2: you can stick around until the end to hear from

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Speaker 2: Sean Marks. We're also going to cover off this ongoing

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Speaker 2: netball saga as well as we can. It still doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem to have any resolution in sight. Days of meetings

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Speaker 2: and mediation haven't got us to a finishing point yet.

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Speaker 2: Leading employment lawyer and partner at Taverndale and Partners, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Dracers with us after one to I gle just give

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Speaker 2: us some insight into what meetings and mediation of the

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Speaker 2: sort looks like and whether the longer it goes on,

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Speaker 2: does that mean we're more likely or less likely to

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Speaker 2: get a resolution. So we'll cover that after one. Rugby

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Speaker 2: first up today though bleed Ushoe Cup Test two tonight

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Speaker 2: in Perth. Wallaby's legend and now Rugby Australia President Nathan

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Speaker 2: Sharp is with shortly. They're very keen to read your

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Speaker 2: pulse on this. Here your thoughts on the game, the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks team that has been selected and how you

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Speaker 2: see it playing out a bit later on tonight. Other

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Speaker 2: matters around today. Black Caps coach Rob Walters on the show.

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Speaker 2: Game two of the three match at Chapel Hadley series

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Speaker 2: washed out after just thirteen deliveries last night. But how

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Speaker 2: is Rob Walter settling into the role of head coach

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Speaker 2: after four months in that job now? Going to find

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Speaker 2: out this afternoon. Just having a look at the forecast

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Speaker 2: for Mount monganow we actually it's a bit more promising,

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Speaker 2: I must say, for seven o'clock onwards tonight, so maybe

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Speaker 2: we will get decent crack at game three in the

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Speaker 2: Chapel Hadley. The NRL's Dallym Awards were held on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: Warriors forward Aaron Clark named Locke of the Year. Going

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Speaker 2: to chat to him today about that and his standout season.

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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock as usual on a Saturday with Australian Sporting

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Speaker 2: Matters and we'll play a sporting chance with the tab

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Speaker 2: your chance to first of all, win a one hundred

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Speaker 2: Whole heap of live sport to keep an eye on

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Speaker 2: this afternoon while we're on the air. The New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Under twenty men's football side have just kicked off against

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Speaker 2: Japan in their third and final pall match at the

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Speaker 2: FIFA Under twenty World Cup in Chile. They need a

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Speaker 2: draw or a win to ensure progress to the knockout rounds.

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Speaker 2: A loss wouldn't be terminal, but it would make things

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Speaker 2: a bit more difficult. Going to keep you updated, dar

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Speaker 2: Nila All after nine minutes. Olympic champion Finn Butcher is

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Speaker 2: in round one of his specialist event, the kayak cross

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Speaker 2: at the World Champs in Sydney. He goes around five

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Speaker 2: past two, having narrowly missed the podium in the canoe

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Speaker 2: slalom yesterday. He was fourth in that event. Farah Palmer

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Speaker 2: Cup Final wha cut or Canterbury FMG Stadium, Hamilton from

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Speaker 2: before the playoffs. Auckland against Otago at Auckland Grammar School

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Speaker 2: on Canterbury if they win that this will be Auckland's

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Speaker 2: last game of the season regardless. Wellington against Bay of

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Speaker 2: Led us low tow Tonight ten forty five New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Time All blacksby Wallabies and are sold out OPTAs Stadium

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Speaker 2: in Perth for commentary here on News Talks. There'd be

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Speaker 2: a great pleasure to welcome in one of Australia's all

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Speaker 2: time great lockforwards Australia again here lock him Shoppers.

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Speaker 4: With him the big time just as two looking all

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Speaker 4: those got one last week against the spring Books, but

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Speaker 5: Super try from the men in Gold, Nathan Sharp.

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Speaker 2: No better player to have that plast to the line.

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Speaker 2: Nathan Sharp debut for the Wallabies in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 2: Eels medallist as Australian Rugby Player of the Year, and

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Speaker 2: played one hundred and sixteen Test matches for Australia. He

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Speaker 2: Earlier this year, he was appointed as President of Rugby Australia.

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Speaker 2: Nathan sharpers with us. Nathan, thanks for taking the time

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Speaker 2: on match day. You've got a very strong association with

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Speaker 6: Hey going, Jason, thanks for your introduction matter. It seems

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Speaker 6: Australian rugby has come on that you know, from when

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Speaker 6: You know, who would have thought that, you know, at

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Speaker 2: Without question, I want to talk about the game in

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Speaker 8: He's been outstanding?

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Speaker 6: You know, I'd follow Joe from from Afar for a

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Speaker 6: And if you've watched enough sport, and I'm sure all

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Speaker 6: Look, I was hopeful. It's one of those things that

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Speaker 6: the opportunity to contest it. You know, I did that

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Speaker 6: And you know, credits for the All Blacks. They came

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Speaker 6: I think they'd be a bit disappointed. They weren't quite

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Speaker 2: Be for the But at those times, well, I think

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Speaker 2: and it was a live Tonight, that's not to be.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that that dilutes Australia's desire in

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Speaker 2: any way, does it, Nathan. You'd imagine there'd be a

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Speaker 6: Look, I don't think it changed anything for the Wall

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Speaker 6: I know from my time as a player, was lucky

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Speaker 6: funny in the Australian psyche. You know, we could beat

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Speaker 6: you got a rubbish because he didn't beat New Zealand.

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Speaker 6: So I can tell you there is plenty on the

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Speaker 6: want that win and become away from this campaign with

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Speaker 2: Hundred and sixteen test matches, you played against every rugby

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Speaker 6: Look at that other highlight for me, you always knew

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Speaker 7: End of it.

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Speaker 7: That was me a lot.

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Speaker 2: And amongst all your other very the busy parts of

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Speaker 2: Well, just to finish. Then we are two years out

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I enjoying all these games on the sideline and you

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Speaker 2: Nathan, great to get the chance to chat to you

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us O ourries enjoy Hey, thanks thank you.

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Speaker 2: Nathan. Nathan Sharp there one hundred and sixty Test Wallaby's lock,

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Speaker 2: But a chance now to get some thoughts from you

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Speaker 2: Don't you think if it's going to be a two

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Speaker 2: Isn't that a fairer system? Isn't that a much better

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Speaker 2: Now tonight doesn't have the same jeopardy about it. There's

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Speaker 2: But these are the All Blacks. They shouldn't need an

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty anything you want to

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Speaker 7: Hey, James Jason, how are you, mate?

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Speaker 2: Very good, James, very good, Thank you mate.

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Speaker 7: Lovely Hey, you must have been reading my Facebook post.

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Speaker 7: I've just been saying the same thing about doing the

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Speaker 7: A two league pie.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't otherwise Game two is effectively I hate the phrase,

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Speaker 2: but it's effectively a dead robber really in terms of

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's crazy. And then you get all these idiots

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Speaker 7: So basically I'm going to watch tonight's game with interest

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Speaker 7: I hope they've been training for where the rugby all week.

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Speaker 7: It's cooking pretty bad all in the country and I

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Speaker 7: out of all these changes. There's been very little changes.

431
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Speaker 7: If you scrutinize the the game day twenty three. I mean,

432
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Speaker 7: Lucas Casey's dropped out altogether. He's had a barn storming season,

433
00:21:23,227 --> 00:21:26,987
Speaker 7: but he's replaced by Slag McDowell and that guy's a beast.

434
00:21:28,267 --> 00:21:32,547
Speaker 7: You've got Placher on the bench, replaced by a proven,

435
00:21:32,947 --> 00:21:37,587
Speaker 7: very very capable super rugby halfback. You know, I think

436
00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:42,147
Speaker 7: Nadeki gopped out altogether, but still the back line is

437
00:21:42,227 --> 00:21:44,667
Speaker 7: pretty much. Guys have been playing all season. You've got

438
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Speaker 7: Ollie Haiges coming to Lock. He's played so he's played

439
00:21:48,787 --> 00:21:53,587
Speaker 7: so rugby for the Islanders at Locke. Nomadi's on the bench.

440
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Speaker 7: I mean it's had a good target team despite the changes.

441
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Speaker 2: Oh with that question, I'm just looking at it now

442
00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:03,707
Speaker 2: as you're raiding it out there, James. I mean Christian

443
00:22:03,787 --> 00:22:06,027
Speaker 2: Leo will He's still there, you know. Will Taka is

444
00:22:06,027 --> 00:22:09,147
Speaker 2: a very good lockforward. Liam Coltman, he of one hundred

445
00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:13,587
Speaker 2: games now for the Otago side and a former All Black. Look,

446
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Speaker 2: I think they'll beat Auckland this afternoon and they could

447
00:22:16,107 --> 00:22:19,227
Speaker 2: look Otago could win the MPC. There's no doubt about it.

448
00:22:19,307 --> 00:22:23,387
Speaker 7: They've been very good this year, absolutely, and she just

449
00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:27,267
Speaker 7: as a quicker side. Before I finish on a I'm

450
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Speaker 7: an Arsenal fan. You won't like to hear that, but

451
00:22:31,067 --> 00:22:36,707
Speaker 7: I'm probably probably North London is Lillington born. Arsenal's the family,

452
00:22:37,667 --> 00:22:41,507
Speaker 7: the family team. So here's a scenario for your piney

453
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Speaker 7: Tiger get up beat Auckland today. Arsenal beat west Ham.

454
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Speaker 7: So what that could mean is I'll be watching the

455
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Speaker 7: I won't watch it live. I'll probably get up watch

456
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Speaker 7: the Arsenal game about nine am blade and then if

457
00:23:00,067 --> 00:23:02,947
Speaker 7: we'll be west Ham then I'll probably very likely to

458
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Speaker 7: stay up and watch the entire Liverpool game to see

459
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Speaker 7: if we can spot. And then I've got the Taranaki

460
00:23:09,347 --> 00:23:11,627
Speaker 7: Canterbury game with some skin in that one as well

461
00:23:12,067 --> 00:23:16,427
Speaker 7: for Taranaki to be Cannbury so it Targa can finish

462
00:23:16,587 --> 00:23:20,507
Speaker 7: top as well. So there's there's my Sunday for your piney.

463
00:23:20,947 --> 00:23:24,667
Speaker 2: Absolutely brilliant, James, Absolutely I love that. Look you You

464
00:23:25,187 --> 00:23:27,627
Speaker 2: sound like you approach your weekends in the same way

465
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Speaker 2: that I do. You look at the sporting fixtures across

466
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Speaker 2: a variety of codes and you sort yourself out and

467
00:23:34,467 --> 00:23:36,827
Speaker 2: do the other stuff in between. Great to chat to you, mate,

468
00:23:36,827 --> 00:23:39,427
Speaker 2: Look I look. I I mean, yes, you know, I'm

469
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Speaker 2: a Liverpool fan, but like look, I I've admired Arsenal

470
00:23:42,307 --> 00:23:44,067
Speaker 2: and what they've been doing. Did you see Bournemouth are

471
00:23:44,147 --> 00:23:45,827
Speaker 2: up to second now they had to win this morning

472
00:23:46,187 --> 00:23:48,427
Speaker 2: over Fulham, So I mean it's great to see, you know,

473
00:23:48,627 --> 00:23:51,387
Speaker 2: a lesser light of the Premier League, you know, doing well.

474
00:23:51,427 --> 00:23:53,627
Speaker 2: But mate, look I'll be thinking of you as I

475
00:23:53,747 --> 00:23:56,307
Speaker 2: too watch many of the same fixtures that you will

476
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Speaker 2: be over the next sort of twenty four hours or so.

477
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Speaker 2: Good to chat to you, James, Thanks indeed, mate, twelve

478
00:24:00,867 --> 00:24:02,467
Speaker 2: thirty one on news talks here, But let's talk some

479
00:24:02,587 --> 00:24:04,507
Speaker 2: All Blacks. O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

480
00:24:05,067 --> 00:24:07,787
Speaker 2: is our number the team tonight. We're going to talk

481
00:24:07,827 --> 00:24:10,187
Speaker 2: about that in a secon. Do you feel confident that

482
00:24:10,227 --> 00:24:12,947
Speaker 2: All Blacks can go back to back for the first

483
00:24:13,027 --> 00:24:15,667
Speaker 2: time since what the back end of They won the

484
00:24:15,707 --> 00:24:17,547
Speaker 2: third Test against France, didn't they and then the first

485
00:24:17,587 --> 00:24:20,587
Speaker 2: one against Argentina, So since then we haven't had back

486
00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:25,267
Speaker 2: to back wins in the Bledisloe Cup. Surely it should

487
00:24:25,307 --> 00:24:28,627
Speaker 2: be an aggregate situation, shouldn't it. If we're only going

488
00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:32,867
Speaker 2: to play two tests, then surely aggregate comes into play. Oh,

489
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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back with more of

490
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Speaker 2: your calls after this.

491
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492
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493
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494
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Speaker 2: That'd be twenty six to one. Just kind of message

495
00:24:47,587 --> 00:24:49,227
Speaker 2: from a very good friend of mine, who says, did

496
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Speaker 2: I just hear you publicly announce Piney that you admire Arsenal? Wow?

497
00:24:55,707 --> 00:24:57,827
Speaker 2: Oh jeep, Sorry mate, Yes, I did say that. I

498
00:24:57,907 --> 00:24:59,907
Speaker 2: did say that a couple of suggestions on the bledisloe

499
00:24:59,947 --> 00:25:02,947
Speaker 2: should be up every game like the Ranfurley Shield. Not

500
00:25:03,067 --> 00:25:03,707
Speaker 2: in favor of that.

501
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Speaker 10: Not for me.

502
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Speaker 2: It's a series still a set. But if there are

503
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Speaker 2: two games, surely agriget comes into it. John, Hi, mate, Oh.

504
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Speaker 11: Mate, how are you good?

505
00:25:13,547 --> 00:25:13,747
Speaker 2: Thank you?

506
00:25:13,867 --> 00:25:14,907
Speaker 3: John? Good?

507
00:25:14,987 --> 00:25:15,147
Speaker 8: Good.

508
00:25:15,427 --> 00:25:18,747
Speaker 11: He just looking forward to the game this weekend. However,

509
00:25:19,507 --> 00:25:22,067
Speaker 11: just wondering what you thought so on Razor, I've sort

510
00:25:22,067 --> 00:25:23,827
Speaker 11: of given him a year and a half and which

511
00:25:23,907 --> 00:25:25,547
Speaker 11: is just to be able to come up now with

512
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Speaker 11: his tenure top with concerns. I don't see a game plan.

513
00:25:31,467 --> 00:25:34,467
Speaker 11: I don't see the All Blacks evolving too much. And

514
00:25:34,547 --> 00:25:38,587
Speaker 11: the biggest thing is is that, for example, Rico Yuani

515
00:25:40,027 --> 00:25:44,827
Speaker 11: at center, I put it back to man, he was

516
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Speaker 11: a blockblusting wing talking ten years to develop into a

517
00:25:48,987 --> 00:25:53,027
Speaker 11: passing second five and a kicking second five. I don't

518
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Speaker 11: think we're actually giving young guys to go to evolve themselves.

519
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Speaker 11: And just wondering what your thoughts are because I actually

520
00:26:01,347 --> 00:26:03,547
Speaker 11: don't see a pathway here at the moment at all.

521
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Speaker 2: We're just on the Rico thing. I think he's been

522
00:26:05,667 --> 00:26:09,587
Speaker 2: given a fair cracket center under Razor and previously under

523
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Speaker 2: Ian Foster. I think he's had four years there, John,

524
00:26:12,747 --> 00:26:15,707
Speaker 2: So I think he's been given a decent crack and

525
00:26:15,827 --> 00:26:18,027
Speaker 2: they were keen to look at other options there. I

526
00:26:18,067 --> 00:26:20,387
Speaker 2: think he's given Billy Proctor a decent crack and it

527
00:26:20,467 --> 00:26:22,947
Speaker 2: hasn't quite worked out for Billy in the way that

528
00:26:22,987 --> 00:26:24,907
Speaker 2: I'm sure he would have hoped for. So tonight it's

529
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Speaker 2: Quinta Pie, which does interest me because I don't think

530
00:26:28,547 --> 00:26:30,947
Speaker 2: Quinta Pie has ever played center that I can remember.

531
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Speaker 2: He's a second five. I know the positions aren't aren't

532
00:26:33,667 --> 00:26:36,827
Speaker 2: that dissimilar, but they are. They do have their own nuances,

533
00:26:37,267 --> 00:26:40,147
Speaker 2: so that interests me. I think to answer your original question, John,

534
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Speaker 2: I think there's still the jury's still very much out

535
00:26:42,787 --> 00:26:44,867
Speaker 2: on Scott Robertson as All Blacks coach. And here we are,

536
00:26:45,467 --> 00:26:47,627
Speaker 2: you know, coming. I guess we're two thirds of the

537
00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:50,067
Speaker 2: way through his second year, coming up halfway through the

538
00:26:50,107 --> 00:26:53,267
Speaker 2: World Cup cycle. Look put it this way, mate, he

539
00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:55,067
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to lose too many more test matches this

540
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Speaker 2: year exactly.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 2: But John, one thing I will say is that he's

543
00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:05,387
Speaker 2: talked about this four four four four deep in every

544
00:27:05,467 --> 00:27:07,667
Speaker 2: position over four years to win a fourth World Cup.

545
00:27:07,707 --> 00:27:11,107
Speaker 2: I had a check yesterday. He's used fifty five blokes.

546
00:27:11,227 --> 00:27:13,707
Speaker 2: Fifty five guys have worn the black jersey since Raser

547
00:27:13,747 --> 00:27:16,587
Speaker 2: took over, so at least he's given it a crack

548
00:27:16,627 --> 00:27:19,067
Speaker 2: at building depth. Yees. Some of those have been tried

549
00:27:19,107 --> 00:27:22,787
Speaker 2: and then discarded. But he's he's he is giving out opportunities.

550
00:27:22,827 --> 00:27:24,347
Speaker 2: And if you're going to do that, the first two

551
00:27:24,467 --> 00:27:27,227
Speaker 2: years of a Rugby World Cup cycle are surely when

552
00:27:27,227 --> 00:27:27,587
Speaker 2: you do it.

553
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Speaker 12: Yes.

554
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Speaker 11: So what's your thoughts on the centers combination? Because you

555
00:27:32,987 --> 00:27:36,227
Speaker 11: know I loved it at the apprenticeship Tim Horn and

556
00:27:36,867 --> 00:27:42,227
Speaker 11: little Head against Joe Stanley. Everley got flogged, but hello,

557
00:27:42,667 --> 00:27:45,347
Speaker 11: two three years later they won a World Cup. Are

558
00:27:45,467 --> 00:27:46,987
Speaker 11: we embracing that enough or not?

559
00:27:47,907 --> 00:27:50,867
Speaker 2: Good question, John, Yell. When you think about it's hard

560
00:27:50,947 --> 00:27:54,307
Speaker 2: to talk about a center or a second five in isolation,

561
00:27:54,467 --> 00:27:56,707
Speaker 2: isn't it, Because you think about one and you often

562
00:27:56,867 --> 00:28:00,227
Speaker 2: get another. Walter Little and Frank buntz Unnona who you mentioned,

563
00:28:00,267 --> 00:28:03,787
Speaker 2: and Conrad Smith you know Little and you know Jason

564
00:28:03,827 --> 00:28:07,507
Speaker 2: Litlan and Tim Horne, as you said either way, Yeah,

565
00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:10,467
Speaker 2: so I think Jordi Barrett's the second five. I just

566
00:28:11,267 --> 00:28:14,587
Speaker 2: and they clearly wanted to give Billy Procter the chance

567
00:28:14,707 --> 00:28:19,067
Speaker 2: to be thirteen, and he might still be, but again

568
00:28:19,787 --> 00:28:22,587
Speaker 2: he hasn't he hasn't locked in that place for me.

569
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Speaker 2: So I don't know who the thirteen is. It's a

570
00:28:24,867 --> 00:28:26,867
Speaker 2: long when we're saying I don't know who the thirteen is.

571
00:28:26,947 --> 00:28:30,507
Speaker 11: John, Now, well, that's the thing is like we've got

572
00:28:30,547 --> 00:28:32,587
Speaker 11: all these big ball running players and we could put

573
00:28:32,667 --> 00:28:36,107
Speaker 11: two three in there, but where's our distribution guy? You know,

574
00:28:36,267 --> 00:28:39,027
Speaker 11: the guy Anthony Brown is being a little older to

575
00:28:39,307 --> 00:28:42,307
Speaker 11: understand that, but the guy with the silkie skills that

576
00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:45,347
Speaker 11: can pop the ball left and right, the compliment the

577
00:28:45,587 --> 00:28:48,147
Speaker 11: likes of Jordi Barrett or of proper you know, and

578
00:28:49,427 --> 00:28:53,667
Speaker 11: just yeah, just the Christian marker out with Raiser. I'm

579
00:28:53,707 --> 00:28:56,147
Speaker 11: the big fan of Jamie Joseph and what he did

580
00:28:56,187 --> 00:28:58,507
Speaker 11: with the Highlanders, a win that that high out the

581
00:28:58,547 --> 00:29:02,427
Speaker 11: scale of rugby playing at a high tempo. I love

582
00:29:02,507 --> 00:29:05,027
Speaker 11: their heads up Rudby. I don't like the pod system

583
00:29:05,547 --> 00:29:08,547
Speaker 11: and we've seen to be sort of fun. Feels like

584
00:29:08,667 --> 00:29:11,947
Speaker 11: you're blacked a just here to lose instead of being

585
00:29:12,947 --> 00:29:14,587
Speaker 11: playing the game. What's in front of him, you know?

586
00:29:14,747 --> 00:29:16,827
Speaker 11: And Beth Moony grow up at the moment.

587
00:29:17,467 --> 00:29:19,507
Speaker 2: Good chat John, good chat mate, Great to chatty you

588
00:29:19,587 --> 00:29:22,907
Speaker 2: thanks for calling in and making some really good points. Midfielders.

589
00:29:24,027 --> 00:29:27,267
Speaker 2: I mentioned the fifty five players that Scott Robertson has used.

590
00:29:27,387 --> 00:29:29,627
Speaker 2: Jordi Barrett, David Harvelli who's not in the current squad,

591
00:29:29,627 --> 00:29:32,667
Speaker 2: Anton Lenart Brown, Billy Procter, to Mathy Tavatava Nahwai injured

592
00:29:32,707 --> 00:29:35,547
Speaker 2: at the moment obviously, and Quinsupaya. Those are the six

593
00:29:35,667 --> 00:29:40,027
Speaker 2: midfielders that Scott Robertson has used. He hasn't used Braydon Enor,

594
00:29:40,227 --> 00:29:43,027
Speaker 2: who was still contracted to New Zealand Rugby and who

595
00:29:43,067 --> 00:29:46,187
Speaker 2: played a lot of rugby under Razor at the Crusaders. Yeah.

596
00:29:46,427 --> 00:29:49,707
Speaker 2: I think most people think Jordi Barrett is the best

597
00:29:49,707 --> 00:29:51,267
Speaker 2: second five. Having said that, I've seen a lot of

598
00:29:51,267 --> 00:29:53,747
Speaker 2: people suggested you go back to fullback and we should

599
00:29:53,787 --> 00:29:59,107
Speaker 2: look at something doing something different in midfield, but no

600
00:29:59,267 --> 00:30:02,387
Speaker 2: one has. No one has locked in the thirteen jumper,

601
00:30:03,107 --> 00:30:03,987
Speaker 2: no one's done that yet.

602
00:30:04,587 --> 00:30:07,747
Speaker 7: Hi Jamie, Kay, Jason, You're right.

603
00:30:08,067 --> 00:30:09,947
Speaker 2: I'm good, Jamie. How are you feeling the same tonight?

604
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Speaker 8: Good?

605
00:30:11,227 --> 00:30:11,427
Speaker 7: Good?

606
00:30:12,067 --> 00:30:14,267
Speaker 13: And yeah, I just wanted to say that, Yeah, the

607
00:30:14,387 --> 00:30:18,347
Speaker 13: game tonight. Yeah, hopefully the bits will go back it

608
00:30:18,467 --> 00:30:20,387
Speaker 13: up again, you know, just put to to get two

609
00:30:20,467 --> 00:30:25,787
Speaker 13: ones together for a change, you know. But I also, yeah,

610
00:30:25,787 --> 00:30:29,267
Speaker 13: I think Australia will be stronger tonight with especially with

611
00:30:30,507 --> 00:30:34,107
Speaker 13: with Skelton and Valatini back for then they'll be there'll

612
00:30:34,107 --> 00:30:36,747
Speaker 13: be pretty big for them, so playing in front of

613
00:30:36,747 --> 00:30:38,307
Speaker 13: our home crowd. So I think you'll be a really

614
00:30:38,627 --> 00:30:42,307
Speaker 13: really good test tonight. In terms of the Breeder side, yeah,

615
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Speaker 13: I think it's if it's a two series, and yeah

616
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Speaker 13: it should be on get you know, it's this this

617
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Speaker 13: sort of like it's a you know, it's sort of

618
00:30:50,947 --> 00:30:52,467
Speaker 13: like a bit of a bit of a fat thing,

619
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Speaker 13: you know, the game this week. But I also I

620
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Speaker 13: was even another suggestion. I mean, I'm not sure if

621
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Speaker 13: you'd be on board with this, pointy, but I reckon.

622
00:31:01,907 --> 00:31:05,707
Speaker 13: If I reckon, they should probably have a one off

623
00:31:05,747 --> 00:31:08,987
Speaker 13: around around Anti weekend. Obviously that's going to crash with

624
00:31:09,227 --> 00:31:12,067
Speaker 13: Super Rugby, but I think it was just a one

625
00:31:12,107 --> 00:31:15,867
Speaker 13: off game on Seas that weekend, and and then if

626
00:31:15,907 --> 00:31:18,907
Speaker 13: you're if you and at the lose gay, well, if

627
00:31:18,947 --> 00:31:20,547
Speaker 13: they want to get a bet, they can have the

628
00:31:20,627 --> 00:31:24,267
Speaker 13: two games during the Rugby Championship having to win both.

629
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Speaker 13: I don't know what do you feel about something like that?

630
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to come round to that idea, Jamie.

631
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Speaker 2: I must say, when it was first patched, I guess

632
00:31:32,427 --> 00:31:35,587
Speaker 2: the the realist and me said, okay, well, how how's

633
00:31:35,667 --> 00:31:37,267
Speaker 2: that going to work in the middle of Super Rugby,

634
00:31:37,347 --> 00:31:40,227
Speaker 2: Because you know, the players would need to leave their

635
00:31:40,267 --> 00:31:43,227
Speaker 2: Super Rugby franchises for at least a week before the

636
00:31:43,307 --> 00:31:47,707
Speaker 2: ANZAC Test and then recover afterwards. So you're probably looking

637
00:31:47,747 --> 00:31:51,067
Speaker 2: at our top players missing two games of Super Rugby

638
00:31:51,147 --> 00:31:53,187
Speaker 2: and then you say to yourself, well, actually is that

639
00:31:53,467 --> 00:31:56,507
Speaker 2: is that? Is that necessarily catastrophic? I'm not sure that

640
00:31:56,587 --> 00:31:58,307
Speaker 2: it is. And if it achieves the aim as you've

641
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Speaker 2: outlined of having a three test series every year, one

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Speaker 2: at ANZAC weekend and then two as part of the

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Speaker 2: Rugby Championship, so we get rid of this two game

644
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Speaker 2: series which just seems to be a bit sort of

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Speaker 2: neither here nor there for me, then I don't actually

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Speaker 2: mind it. I'd like to hear more. I'd like to

647
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Speaker 2: hear more.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, because I mean we've tried three game series in

649
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Speaker 13: the past, and I show this story even one of those.

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Speaker 13: I always figured it's the best chance of getting the

651
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Speaker 13: Beckers in the one off. But yeah, that's just what

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Speaker 13: I think anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, good thoughts, Jamie. Always good to chat mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,

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Speaker 2: Craig says, Jason, is it just me or does everyone

656
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Speaker 2: else think the Aussie rugby team play in orange? And

657
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Speaker 2: what color is that color? Gold? That's not orange, Crake,

658
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Speaker 2: that's not orange. You might need introduce some work on

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Speaker 2: the contrast on your TV. Orange is what the Dutch

660
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Speaker 2: football team where that's orange? Pretty sure that's yellow or

661
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Speaker 2: Australian gold as they call it over there. Craig. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for your text play points differentially across the two games,

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Speaker 2: the Wallabies win by more than nine tonight, they get

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Speaker 2: the cup. Brenda says, yes, you do have to win

665
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Speaker 2: two matches to get the Bledislow, assuming it's a three

666
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Speaker 2: match series. But when it's only two matches and the

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Speaker 2: hold it wins the first, then the next test is

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Speaker 2: a dead rubber. This has to change. Are we scared

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Speaker 2: to lose it?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I think we're scared to lose it? And before we

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Speaker 2: go to the break bow, says Piney, being forever hopeful.

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Speaker 2: I've backed my Wallabies with a forty dollars thirteen plus

674
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Speaker 2: bet two hundred and sixty coming my way. Do you

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Speaker 2: honestly think they're going to let James Slipper bow out

676
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Speaker 2: with a loss at home? And for Joe as well?

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Speaker 2: You beauty bo good on your bow.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 2: I hope for your I hope for your sake it happens.

680
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Speaker 2: I hope for my sake it doesn't. I want the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks to win every Test they play, seventeen to one.

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Speaker 2: Back with more calls after this.

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Speaker 14: Don't get caught off.

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Speaker 1: Signed call eight hundred eighty eight Weekend Sports with Jason

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Speaker 2: MV twelve forty six. Tony says it maybe weighted our way,

688
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Speaker 2: but if the Ossies held it, it would be equally

689
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Speaker 2: waited for them. To gain a championship. You must beat

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Speaker 2: the champ, not equal them. Many a boxer has continued

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Speaker 2: to hold their belt with a drawer. Thank you, Tony

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Speaker 2: Um and no, I've read that once, so we can

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Speaker 2: go back to the lines. Rob, Hello, mate, Rob just

694
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Speaker 2: turned that radio down. In the background. They made it

695
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Speaker 2: all confuse you because we're in delay just in case

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Speaker 2: you say something you shouldn't. So hopefully you've turned that down.

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Speaker 2: Well that's there, Rob, No, no, not there. There's going

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Speaker 2: to Mark Hi.

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Speaker 6: Mark.

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Speaker 15: Hey By. Yeah, I just want to mention the most

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Speaker 15: forgotten all Black coach who won a world championship last week,

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Speaker 15: John Mitchell. He seemed to fly.

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Speaker 7: Under the raid.

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Speaker 15: It seemed to fly under the raider, didn't it.

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Speaker 2: I guess I look, I I think we sort of

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Speaker 2: picked up on the fact that our old mate John

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Speaker 2: Mitchell was in charge of the England Read Roses and

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Speaker 2: has obviously done a very good job there. Yeah no, no,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was aware that he was there. Mark.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: No, it didn't seem to really make the news or

712
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Speaker 15: anything like that.

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Speaker 3: To me.

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Speaker 15: It's just interesting, really, I mean, it was also pretty

715
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Speaker 15: much the coach who and produced the rotation and the team,

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Speaker 15: didn't he really he? And now it's become sort of

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Speaker 15: basically what every every rugby team in the world, does you.

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Speaker 2: Reckon he was ahead of his time?

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Speaker 7: He's probably I think he.

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Speaker 15: Was probably unfairly criticized, although he didn't a lot Christian Collen,

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Speaker 15: which was a bit of a mark against the tonight's game.

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Speaker 15: I'm interested in how Tufire goes in midfield and obviously

723
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Speaker 15: Lester on the wing. I think that's a that's a

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Speaker 15: good choices that he's a great, great player. I think

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Speaker 15: the bench is quite exciting, I mean Satisi coming off.

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Speaker 15: And I'm also quite interested in how Bauer is going

727
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Speaker 15: to go. Bao was like he was quite a star

728
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Speaker 15: when he sort of burst onto the scene scene and

729
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Speaker 15: then he sort of got injured quite severely and it's

730
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Speaker 15: taken him a long time to sort of work his

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Speaker 15: way back. And yeah, I'll be really interested to see

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Speaker 15: how he goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same same mark, And yeah, he's a guy who's

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Speaker 2: who you're right, has had had problems with injuries that

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Speaker 2: have kept now things tonight. In fact, I know it

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Speaker 2: is it's his first test of the year, isn't it

737
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Speaker 2: for George Bauer tonight? And you do have to keep

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Speaker 2: on building that prop depth. I talked before about how

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Speaker 2: many players racers picked eight front Rowers. So you know,

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Speaker 2: George Bower more of a tight hair prop I guess

741
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Speaker 2: so Ethan de Groot, Olie Norris and then the likes

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Speaker 2: of Mighty Williams can play both sides in that mix

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Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, I don't think you can ever

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Speaker 2: have too many, can you.

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Speaker 15: No, that's right, You've got to build the depth and

746
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Speaker 15: just on the buddess lit I think I think they

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Speaker 15: should have to win every game against US, and actually

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Speaker 15: win it off us. I think it's the only sporting

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Speaker 15: I think it's the only sporting trophy we hold between

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Speaker 15: New Zealand and Australia. That's with any significance, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: So a three match series they'd have to win three

752
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Speaker 2: nilwise right to me, Love of Mark good Man and

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Speaker 2: enjoy the game tonight, make good thoughts as always from you.

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Speaker 2: I've just got an email here from Craig who was

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Speaker 2: the one who suggested that the the Aussie jersey was orange,

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Speaker 2: and he's actually attached Craig, this is very good. He's

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Speaker 2: attached a picture of the Australian rugby jersey and a

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Speaker 2: picture of an orange And I must say, Craig, you're

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Speaker 2: not that far wrong. They're not too dissimilar. Craig says,

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Speaker 2: I was a Eden Park two, so no TV adjustment needed.

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Speaker 2: The Australian rugby jersey is orange, Craig, brilliant, mate. I

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Speaker 2: love that you've sourced a picture of an orange to

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Speaker 2: prove your point to me. On email, Rob, you've got

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Speaker 2: your radio Dan, how are you mate?

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Speaker 12: Yes, hey, hey Jason, good to talk to you, and

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Speaker 12: you're just listening to the last call of Mark. I

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Speaker 12: think one of the issues we're finding now is our

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Speaker 12: pool of players. We're limited on they not only the quality,

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Speaker 12: but no local teacher the jersey now the players because

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Speaker 12: I think we've got a smaller pool. They go off sure,

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Speaker 12: and so they try and get them back during the

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Speaker 12: Super fifteen or when the or decks are playing a test.

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Speaker 12: You know, that gets dangled in front of them. So

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Speaker 12: it's their livelihood. So I think that's had a big

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Speaker 12: impact on our player base and they'll continue to hell

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Speaker 12: to happen.

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Speaker 2: So just Rob, just clarify that. So the fact that

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Speaker 2: more players are getting big money off as overseas is

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Speaker 2: shallowing our depth poll.

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Speaker 12: In other words, well, well I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 12: Just happened in that provincial level so since Super fifteen started,

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Speaker 12: I'm from Hawks Bay, we can't even you know, when

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Speaker 12: I was playing back in the eighties, you could go

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Speaker 12: from club team to provincial rugby. Now you can't even

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Speaker 12: get into the provincial team because it's already been taken

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Speaker 12: up by Super fifteen players. They've been playing outside the province.

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Speaker 12: So then the player base then impacts on those plays. Well,

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Speaker 12: I'll just go sell, I'll go to seas and so,

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Speaker 12: in my opinion, you start limiting the amount of opportunities

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Speaker 12: and you get the likes of let's look at John

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Speaker 12: Cowan who's never identified to he left school. There's others

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Speaker 12: like that that leave score early because they've picked early

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Speaker 12: in in academy. You miss the wider pool of capable players.

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Speaker 2: So what they're going to play? Sorry, Rob, What does

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Speaker 2: a player then do who's not in the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: but as a super rugby player, what do they do?

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Speaker 2: You know, from August through to October.

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Speaker 12: They need to feed their family, they need to put

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Speaker 12: a roof over their head, so they go off to

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Speaker 12: the States. They'll play second, They'll play a competition over there.

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Speaker 12: That's that gives them a contract that is enough for

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Speaker 12: them to survive on to go to the French League

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Speaker 12: to play in the third division.

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Speaker 8: They go to Spain.

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Speaker 12: Don't just be goad prodding players and then come back

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Speaker 12: come back to their province.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd want to stay here. I don't think i'd

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Speaker 2: want to do that. I'd want if I was getting

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Speaker 2: paid here, i'd want to s I want to stay here.

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Speaker 2: You can understand why they do. I know what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: and you're right. If there's if a guy, if a

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Speaker 2: guy who's come out of club rugby sees a path

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Speaker 2: blocked into the provincial team, then that's that is demoralizing

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Speaker 2: for that player. But I just don't know whether you

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Speaker 2: can ask super rugby players to foe go n PC

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Speaker 2: just to continue to build that base.

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Speaker 12: Yes, no, no, I understand that. And then I look

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Speaker 12: at now, I guess the recent South African tool we've had,

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Speaker 12: you know a lot of them play in the European season,

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Speaker 12: and so the use that brutality, I guess, and that

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Speaker 12: high level of roby. And I think since Tony Brown

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Speaker 12: has been with the South African team, you can see

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Speaker 12: the change and particularly the back line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can, Rob, I've got to go, mate and

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Speaker 2: get to a break, but you've made some really sullying points.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in seven to one News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fail. Weekend

828
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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pin, News Talk ZMB.

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Speaker 2: Coming up to the one o'clock News ten for five

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Speaker 2: kickoff tonightfull comment for on News Talks. There'd be break

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Speaker 2: it all down for you on the show tomorrow. New

832
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Speaker 2: Zealand a one nil down to Japan at the Under

833
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Speaker 2: twenty World Cup. At halftime in that game, we'll keep

834
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Speaker 2: buyers on it for you. After one, we're going to

835
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Speaker 2: try and get some clarity if we can around this

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Speaker 2: nep on New Zealand Dame Noling situation.

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Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pin on your home of Sport

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Speaker 1: News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in or welcome back to the show. This is

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport on News Talks. There be on Jason Pine

843
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Speaker 2: just updating some live sport for you. The New Zealand

844
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Speaker 2: under twenty football team are playing their third and final

845
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Speaker 2: pull match at the Under twenty World Cup in Chile.

846
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Speaker 2: Up against Japan. They're one nil down early in the

847
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Speaker 2: second half. Now, while defeat would not end their tournament absolutely,

848
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Speaker 2: they would wait on other results. The way this works,

849
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Speaker 2: there are six groups of four, so the top two

850
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Speaker 2: from each group go through to the knockout rounds and

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Speaker 2: then the four best third place teams. Now, if New

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Speaker 2: Zealam had to lose, they would have three points and

853
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Speaker 2: finish third in the group. That may be enough, but

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Speaker 2: it would depend on other results. We wouldn't know till tomorrow,

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00:42:23,747 --> 00:42:26,107
Speaker 2: I think late tomorrow whether they'd made it through. So

856
00:42:26,827 --> 00:42:29,667
Speaker 2: if they were to draw, that would secure their passage

857
00:42:29,707 --> 00:42:31,787
Speaker 2: through and if they would win obviously what as well.

858
00:42:31,787 --> 00:42:33,587
Speaker 2: They're one nail down to Japan, who are one of

859
00:42:33,587 --> 00:42:37,547
Speaker 2: the best teams at this tournament. They've scored five goals

860
00:42:37,587 --> 00:42:40,827
Speaker 2: now without conceding and have been very good at age

861
00:42:40,827 --> 00:42:43,707
Speaker 2: group level for a while Japan. So look, we'll keep

862
00:42:43,747 --> 00:42:45,187
Speaker 2: eyes on it early in the second half. As I say,

863
00:42:45,267 --> 00:42:47,907
Speaker 2: Japan wonder ahead of New Zealand. The far of Palmer

864
00:42:47,947 --> 00:42:50,347
Speaker 2: Cup Final about to begin too. This one is at

865
00:42:50,467 --> 00:42:53,587
Speaker 2: FMG Stadium, Wake Up Tall in Hamilton. It's the home

866
00:42:53,667 --> 00:42:56,507
Speaker 2: side wayk Cutta up against Canterbury. Why Cat. It would

867
00:42:56,507 --> 00:42:59,907
Speaker 2: be favorites, I'm sure and this one, but not overwhelming favorites.

868
00:43:00,187 --> 00:43:01,747
Speaker 2: We'll keep eyes on that for you, and just a

869
00:43:01,787 --> 00:43:03,667
Speaker 2: reminder as well. Then in about an hour from now,

870
00:43:04,227 --> 00:43:07,787
Speaker 2: Sean Marks is on the show Our greatest ever basketball

871
00:43:07,867 --> 00:43:12,187
Speaker 2: players and now one of our foremost sporting administrators in

872
00:43:12,227 --> 00:43:14,427
Speaker 2: any sport around the world. He's the general manager of

873
00:43:15,307 --> 00:43:17,867
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets in the NBA. They're about to get

874
00:43:17,907 --> 00:43:20,787
Speaker 2: underway in their new season. So talked to Sean Marks

875
00:43:20,827 --> 00:43:22,947
Speaker 2: about that, about dealing with some of the highest profile

876
00:43:23,027 --> 00:43:25,627
Speaker 2: sportspeople on the planet and what he remembers of his

877
00:43:25,747 --> 00:43:28,027
Speaker 2: days playing in that wonderful Tour Blacks team that went

878
00:43:28,107 --> 00:43:32,747
Speaker 2: to the semi finals of Theball the Nepball the Basketball

879
00:43:32,787 --> 00:43:35,667
Speaker 2: World Championships in two thousand and two. Niitball's on my

880
00:43:35,787 --> 00:43:39,107
Speaker 2: mind because there's still no clarity and the ongoing saga

881
00:43:39,587 --> 00:43:44,147
Speaker 2: of the Silver Ferns and coach Dame Nolen Toda. Despite

882
00:43:44,307 --> 00:43:46,907
Speaker 2: days of mediation between the World Cup winning coach and

883
00:43:47,027 --> 00:43:50,827
Speaker 2: Netball New Zealand, there's still no decision over whether she'll

884
00:43:50,907 --> 00:43:54,627
Speaker 2: be reinstated. You'll remember, of course, Dame Nolen was stood

885
00:43:54,707 --> 00:43:57,787
Speaker 2: down as coach. That happened on the tenth of September

886
00:43:58,427 --> 00:44:01,107
Speaker 2: with nepball New Zealand's citing issues in the team's high

887
00:44:01,147 --> 00:44:04,227
Speaker 2: performance environment. That left New Zealand to play South Africa

888
00:44:04,307 --> 00:44:08,147
Speaker 2: in the Tiny Jamison Series under interim coaches Avett McCausland,

889
00:44:08,227 --> 00:44:10,707
Speaker 2: Jury and Leanna Liota. They did a good job. New

890
00:44:10,787 --> 00:44:14,227
Speaker 2: Zealand won that series three nil. Now though they have

891
00:44:14,307 --> 00:44:17,867
Speaker 2: a much tougher assignment looming, The Silver Ferns are due

892
00:44:17,907 --> 00:44:20,787
Speaker 2: to go into camp on Monday to prepare for the

893
00:44:20,907 --> 00:44:25,347
Speaker 2: four test Constellation Cup series against Australia. The first game

894
00:44:25,507 --> 00:44:29,867
Speaker 2: in that four test series is in Melbourne on Friday week,

895
00:44:29,987 --> 00:44:33,707
Speaker 2: so it is less than two weeks away. Let's get

896
00:44:33,707 --> 00:44:37,267
Speaker 2: you some insight into the mediation process that is playing

897
00:44:37,307 --> 00:44:41,187
Speaker 2: out here. Anthony Drake is partner at leading law firm

898
00:44:41,467 --> 00:44:45,307
Speaker 2: Taverndale and Partners. He has more than twenty five years

899
00:44:45,347 --> 00:44:50,267
Speaker 2: specialist experience in employment law and is a nationally recognized

900
00:44:50,387 --> 00:44:54,147
Speaker 2: expert in employment related issues and disputes. Anthony, thanks for

901
00:44:54,227 --> 00:44:55,987
Speaker 2: joining us to try and give us some insight here.

902
00:44:56,067 --> 00:44:58,667
Speaker 2: This seems to have taken a long time. Is that

903
00:44:58,907 --> 00:45:01,387
Speaker 2: normal in employment disputes?

904
00:45:02,947 --> 00:45:07,347
Speaker 16: Well, there's a process that the part need to go through,

905
00:45:08,027 --> 00:45:13,067
Speaker 16: of course, and clearly in this case there's a lot

906
00:45:13,147 --> 00:45:17,467
Speaker 16: more to be discussed, but at this point we actually

907
00:45:17,507 --> 00:45:22,107
Speaker 16: don't know what the issues are and I guess it's

908
00:45:22,147 --> 00:45:25,947
Speaker 16: not terribly helpful to speculate. Would be rather more helpful

909
00:45:25,987 --> 00:45:29,907
Speaker 16: of Netball New Zealand told us what the concerns are

910
00:45:30,107 --> 00:45:32,707
Speaker 16: and whether they can be worked through.

911
00:45:33,907 --> 00:45:35,907
Speaker 2: So it's your view then that they should have been

912
00:45:35,947 --> 00:45:38,627
Speaker 2: a bit more transparent and said, Okay, here are the

913
00:45:38,707 --> 00:45:42,547
Speaker 2: issues ABC, here's what we're working through. They're not duty

914
00:45:42,587 --> 00:45:44,267
Speaker 2: bound to do that, of course, but you think that

915
00:45:44,347 --> 00:45:46,307
Speaker 2: would have been helpful in this case.

916
00:45:48,067 --> 00:45:53,947
Speaker 16: I think we're talking about a national team, and it's

917
00:45:53,987 --> 00:45:59,627
Speaker 16: a little different in these situations where you've got parties

918
00:45:59,707 --> 00:46:03,867
Speaker 16: that are in the public eye. Whilst there's a lot

919
00:46:03,867 --> 00:46:07,467
Speaker 16: of similarities with the corporate world, is slightly difference. Is

920
00:46:07,467 --> 00:46:12,667
Speaker 16: a high performance environment. Both employees are both Dame Nolen

921
00:46:12,827 --> 00:46:15,987
Speaker 16: and the players and the public eye, and this matter

922
00:46:15,987 --> 00:46:20,147
Speaker 16: has gone on for quite some time now, so it

923
00:46:20,187 --> 00:46:22,907
Speaker 16: would be helpful to have some insight as to what

924
00:46:23,027 --> 00:46:23,907
Speaker 16: those concerns are.

925
00:46:24,667 --> 00:46:28,267
Speaker 2: The longer the discussions go on, is a resolution, in

926
00:46:28,347 --> 00:46:34,267
Speaker 2: your experience less likely or more likely with a lengthy process.

927
00:46:36,267 --> 00:46:38,187
Speaker 16: Well, as I sort of saying that there's a process

928
00:46:38,267 --> 00:46:41,187
Speaker 16: to work through, and clearly it's taking its time, and

929
00:46:42,587 --> 00:46:46,027
Speaker 16: it's just an indication of how difficult the situation has become.

930
00:46:46,947 --> 00:46:51,387
Speaker 16: Whether it's resolvable now, you know, I can't really speculate

931
00:46:51,467 --> 00:46:55,267
Speaker 16: on that. Hopefully it can be resolved to everybody's satisfaction.

932
00:46:55,987 --> 00:47:00,027
Speaker 2: How do you keep emotion out of employment disputes and

933
00:47:00,227 --> 00:47:02,427
Speaker 2: keep the discussions fact based?

934
00:47:04,587 --> 00:47:07,027
Speaker 16: Well, I don't think you can. I don't think you

935
00:47:07,107 --> 00:47:09,467
Speaker 16: can keep emotions out. And as I sort of said,

936
00:47:09,507 --> 00:47:13,947
Speaker 16: this involves a game that's both the coach, the players,

937
00:47:14,267 --> 00:47:20,627
Speaker 16: the public love, and it's incredibly difficult. There are no

938
00:47:20,787 --> 00:47:23,747
Speaker 16: facts for which anybody can respond to at the moment.

939
00:47:24,507 --> 00:47:28,307
Speaker 16: But you know that I don't just honestly don't think

940
00:47:28,467 --> 00:47:30,827
Speaker 16: we can keep those emotions.

941
00:47:30,427 --> 00:47:30,787
Speaker 8: Out of this.

942
00:47:31,787 --> 00:47:34,027
Speaker 2: So what's the best way to navigate it? Then, Anthony,

943
00:47:34,107 --> 00:47:36,507
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've said in on mediations where emotions are

944
00:47:36,547 --> 00:47:40,907
Speaker 2: running high in an employment dispute, how do you how

945
00:47:40,947 --> 00:47:43,667
Speaker 2: do you take the take the fizz out of situations

946
00:47:43,747 --> 00:47:45,707
Speaker 2: like that's what's the best way of doing that?

947
00:47:47,707 --> 00:47:50,547
Speaker 16: Generally a very calm approach to these sort of issues.

948
00:47:51,027 --> 00:47:55,267
Speaker 16: There's obviously a lot to talk about, and what we

949
00:47:55,387 --> 00:48:01,187
Speaker 16: have learned so far is there are different views from

950
00:48:01,267 --> 00:48:04,947
Speaker 16: the media. Karen Burgers sort of said, well, everybody has

951
00:48:05,387 --> 00:48:10,427
Speaker 16: a different experience. We saw Grace Wecki speak on Saturday Night. Well,

952
00:48:10,547 --> 00:48:13,427
Speaker 16: she has a different experience to some of the others.

953
00:48:13,507 --> 00:48:18,667
Speaker 16: So these are complicated issues to navigate.

954
00:48:20,067 --> 00:48:24,187
Speaker 2: In the situation, the organization Netborn New Zealand appoints the coach.

955
00:48:24,867 --> 00:48:27,507
Speaker 2: The coach is in charge of selecting the players, but

956
00:48:28,267 --> 00:48:32,627
Speaker 2: presumably the players are also employees of Netball New Zealand.

957
00:48:32,827 --> 00:48:34,707
Speaker 2: I guess a lot of people are asking Anthony, why

958
00:48:34,747 --> 00:48:37,347
Speaker 2: wouldn't Netball New Zealand just back their coach. She's the

959
00:48:37,427 --> 00:48:40,667
Speaker 2: one who they've appointed to run the high performance program.

960
00:48:42,747 --> 00:48:44,827
Speaker 7: Well, you're quite.

961
00:48:44,707 --> 00:48:49,707
Speaker 16: Right, Jason dan Noley is an employee. The players are

962
00:48:49,827 --> 00:48:53,827
Speaker 16: employees and net new Netball New Zealand has an obligation

963
00:48:54,027 --> 00:48:57,227
Speaker 16: to resolve the problem, whatever that problem is, and it

964
00:48:57,387 --> 00:49:00,107
Speaker 16: needs to do that in an active and constructive way

965
00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:04,787
Speaker 16: so it can maintain those relationships. So, whether that's to

966
00:49:04,907 --> 00:49:09,147
Speaker 16: back the coach, whether it's active players, they've got duties

967
00:49:09,187 --> 00:49:11,267
Speaker 16: to both sides here to try and resolve it.

968
00:49:12,587 --> 00:49:15,107
Speaker 2: In a situation like this. Let's talk hypothetical here. Let's

969
00:49:15,107 --> 00:49:18,147
Speaker 2: say hypothetically, you know, one possible outcome here is that

970
00:49:18,227 --> 00:49:21,467
Speaker 2: Dave Nolene is exonerated and she's back as as head

971
00:49:21,507 --> 00:49:25,107
Speaker 2: coach of the Silver Ferns. Isn't that still an awkward

972
00:49:25,227 --> 00:49:28,947
Speaker 2: situation to navigate with her knowing that there are you know,

973
00:49:29,147 --> 00:49:32,907
Speaker 2: potentially members of the team who didn't want her to

974
00:49:32,987 --> 00:49:33,467
Speaker 2: be coached.

975
00:49:34,747 --> 00:49:39,427
Speaker 16: Oh, there's an enormous problem here. It's disruptive to the environment,

976
00:49:40,147 --> 00:49:42,907
Speaker 16: it's disruptive to the culture of the team. So there's

977
00:49:42,947 --> 00:49:45,587
Speaker 16: an enormous amount of work to be done. So they

978
00:49:45,707 --> 00:49:48,307
Speaker 16: both have all common goals going forward.

979
00:49:49,867 --> 00:49:52,387
Speaker 2: How common is finding a solution in situations like that

980
00:49:52,467 --> 00:49:56,827
Speaker 2: that allows parties who have been in dispute to continue

981
00:49:56,907 --> 00:49:59,827
Speaker 2: working together and working harmoniously together.

982
00:50:02,267 --> 00:50:05,987
Speaker 16: In my experience, it's incredibly difficult and rare.

983
00:50:08,267 --> 00:50:08,467
Speaker 8: Wow.

984
00:50:08,827 --> 00:50:13,787
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean, I know we can't talk specifics here, Anthony,

985
00:50:13,867 --> 00:50:15,147
Speaker 2: but I mean, what's your what?

986
00:50:15,587 --> 00:50:15,627
Speaker 17: What?

987
00:50:16,427 --> 00:50:18,427
Speaker 2: What should we think about all this? Should we expect

988
00:50:18,507 --> 00:50:20,627
Speaker 2: Dane Noline to come back, should we expect there'll be

989
00:50:20,707 --> 00:50:21,627
Speaker 2: some clunkiness here?

990
00:50:21,907 --> 00:50:21,947
Speaker 3: What?

991
00:50:22,107 --> 00:50:22,147
Speaker 8: What?

992
00:50:22,347 --> 00:50:24,347
Speaker 2: What is your best guess as to what's going to

993
00:50:24,387 --> 00:50:24,707
Speaker 2: play out?

994
00:50:24,747 --> 00:50:24,867
Speaker 3: Here.

995
00:50:26,987 --> 00:50:28,867
Speaker 16: I don't think it's helpful for me to speculate on

996
00:50:29,227 --> 00:50:33,307
Speaker 16: there that there's obviously discussions are ongoing between the cardis,

997
00:50:33,387 --> 00:50:38,187
Speaker 16: so it's very difficult to say.

998
00:50:40,387 --> 00:50:42,187
Speaker 2: And and this could still drag on for a bit.

999
00:50:42,227 --> 00:50:43,907
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got a we've got a format series

1000
00:50:43,947 --> 00:50:46,427
Speaker 2: coming up in less than two weeks. It doesn't feel

1001
00:50:46,467 --> 00:50:47,787
Speaker 2: as though this is going to be resolved. We're here

1002
00:50:47,787 --> 00:50:50,027
Speaker 2: at the weekend and so clearly I guess they take

1003
00:50:50,027 --> 00:50:51,867
Speaker 2: a break over the weekend, they start again on Monday.

1004
00:50:51,867 --> 00:50:55,107
Speaker 2: The team's meant to be selected on Monday, So you know,

1005
00:50:55,507 --> 00:50:57,627
Speaker 2: can these things drag on? Could this drag on for

1006
00:50:57,907 --> 00:50:59,587
Speaker 2: for more days, for for weeks?

1007
00:50:59,627 --> 00:51:08,307
Speaker 16: Even yes, my experience may sometimes do regrettably there's no

1008
00:51:08,787 --> 00:51:09,747
Speaker 16: easy solution here.

1009
00:51:12,067 --> 00:51:16,547
Speaker 2: Well, it's something that continues to I guess hog the

1010
00:51:16,587 --> 00:51:18,627
Speaker 2: headlines when really all we want to be doing is

1011
00:51:18,667 --> 00:51:22,147
Speaker 2: netwall fans is watching the Silver Ferns play Australia Anthony.

1012
00:51:22,227 --> 00:51:24,067
Speaker 2: Anything else to add that might have a bit of

1013
00:51:24,187 --> 00:51:26,147
Speaker 2: context or a bit of clarity to our listeners as

1014
00:51:26,187 --> 00:51:28,667
Speaker 2: we search for some shred of hope here.

1015
00:51:30,147 --> 00:51:31,947
Speaker 16: Well, as I sort of said, I think it might

1016
00:51:32,027 --> 00:51:35,147
Speaker 16: be helpful for netball new Zealand to come out and

1017
00:51:35,187 --> 00:51:37,547
Speaker 16: say what the concerns are and whether they think that

1018
00:51:37,627 --> 00:51:38,547
Speaker 16: they can be worked through.

1019
00:51:39,867 --> 00:51:41,627
Speaker 2: Well, we've asked them a number of times. They don't

1020
00:51:41,667 --> 00:51:45,107
Speaker 2: seem particularly keen on doing that. Anthony, thank you for

1021
00:51:45,227 --> 00:51:47,347
Speaker 2: your time and expertise this afternoon. I guess we just

1022
00:51:47,427 --> 00:51:50,147
Speaker 2: wait and see what plays out here. Appreciate you lending

1023
00:51:50,187 --> 00:51:51,507
Speaker 2: us your expertise today.

1024
00:51:52,467 --> 00:51:53,507
Speaker 7: And good luck to the team.

1025
00:51:53,627 --> 00:51:56,187
Speaker 2: Yep, good luck, good luck to the team. Indeed, Anthony,

1026
00:51:56,267 --> 00:51:58,107
Speaker 2: in more ways than one, thank you for joining us.

1027
00:51:58,107 --> 00:52:01,667
Speaker 2: Anthony Drake, partner at leading law firm Taverndale and Partners,

1028
00:52:01,747 --> 00:52:07,467
Speaker 2: with twenty five years plus of specialist experience in ployment law.

1029
00:52:07,707 --> 00:52:10,067
Speaker 2: Your chance to react to what you heard there. Our

1030
00:52:10,107 --> 00:52:13,587
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number. The

1031
00:52:13,627 --> 00:52:17,667
Speaker 2: bit that stood out for me there was Anthony saying

1032
00:52:17,707 --> 00:52:19,867
Speaker 2: that he thought Netborn, New Zealand should have told us more,

1033
00:52:20,587 --> 00:52:22,867
Speaker 2: should have been more transparent, should it be more open. Look,

1034
00:52:22,907 --> 00:52:26,107
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more with that, but I didn't expect

1035
00:52:26,907 --> 00:52:29,827
Speaker 2: him to say that. I thought what he would say

1036
00:52:29,867 --> 00:52:32,747
Speaker 2: from a legal perspective was that employment matters should be

1037
00:52:32,827 --> 00:52:37,387
Speaker 2: kept confidential and should be played out. You know, privately.

1038
00:52:38,347 --> 00:52:40,547
Speaker 2: So I was pleasantly surprised to hear him say that,

1039
00:52:40,667 --> 00:52:46,587
Speaker 2: because I could not agree more. The silence from Netburn,

1040
00:52:46,627 --> 00:52:51,147
Speaker 2: New Zealand through this whole thing has been deafening. It's

1041
00:52:51,187 --> 00:52:53,627
Speaker 2: become a shambles, hasn't it? When ore in a situation

1042
00:52:53,747 --> 00:52:58,027
Speaker 2: where time is against us. The fact is now what

1043
00:52:58,347 --> 00:53:01,747
Speaker 2: Today's the fourth of October. The first game in the

1044
00:53:01,787 --> 00:53:06,107
Speaker 2: Constellation Cup series is on the seventeenth of October, less

1045
00:53:06,107 --> 00:53:10,587
Speaker 2: than two weeks away. The team is getting together or

1046
00:53:10,707 --> 00:53:14,787
Speaker 2: supposedly getting together on Monday. Dame noling Toto, I can't

1047
00:53:14,827 --> 00:53:17,427
Speaker 2: come back in time for the Constellation Cup. There isn't

1048
00:53:17,547 --> 00:53:22,507
Speaker 2: enough time. Who's even running that camp on Monday, who's

1049
00:53:22,547 --> 00:53:25,427
Speaker 2: even looking after the team, who's picking the team, who's

1050
00:53:25,467 --> 00:53:29,107
Speaker 2: coaching the team. It's clear to me that Dave nolen

1051
00:53:29,187 --> 00:53:31,387
Speaker 2: Toto won't be in charge for the Constellation Cup now

1052
00:53:31,467 --> 00:53:34,907
Speaker 2: that the last chance of that was this getting resolved

1053
00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:37,267
Speaker 2: in the week we've just had. They're not meeting by

1054
00:53:37,307 --> 00:53:39,627
Speaker 2: the sounds of it, over the weekend. They'll get back

1055
00:53:39,627 --> 00:53:43,867
Speaker 2: together on Monday and continue to thrash this out. But

1056
00:53:44,027 --> 00:53:47,587
Speaker 2: she can't possibly now come back in if she does

1057
00:53:48,187 --> 00:53:50,907
Speaker 2: at some point The other bit that stood out from

1058
00:53:50,907 --> 00:53:53,507
Speaker 2: Anthony then was him saying that even if she was

1059
00:53:54,027 --> 00:53:59,747
Speaker 2: exonerated and comes back in in his experience, when complaints

1060
00:53:59,867 --> 00:54:02,947
Speaker 2: like this happen typically in Anthony's experience in the in

1061
00:54:03,067 --> 00:54:05,547
Speaker 2: the corporate world and the you know in a workplace

1062
00:54:06,387 --> 00:54:11,227
Speaker 2: that when there's a dispute like this and the person

1063
00:54:11,307 --> 00:54:14,187
Speaker 2: with the power, the coach, the manager, whatever is found

1064
00:54:14,267 --> 00:54:17,067
Speaker 2: to not be at fault, they come back in. It

1065
00:54:17,187 --> 00:54:20,827
Speaker 2: is incredibly rare, difficult and rare for the parties involved,

1066
00:54:20,867 --> 00:54:23,427
Speaker 2: he said, for them to be able to carry on harmoniously.

1067
00:54:24,267 --> 00:54:26,667
Speaker 2: And we all know that we're all human beings. Well,

1068
00:54:26,667 --> 00:54:28,987
Speaker 2: we've all got common sense. Of course, it's going to

1069
00:54:28,987 --> 00:54:31,267
Speaker 2: be difficult. Dame Nolan, if she comes back, knows that

1070
00:54:31,307 --> 00:54:33,027
Speaker 2: there are players in that team who don't want her there.

1071
00:54:35,027 --> 00:54:38,547
Speaker 2: So if it's me, I just don't pick them. And

1072
00:54:38,747 --> 00:54:40,427
Speaker 2: is that fair on? I mean, what if some of

1073
00:54:40,467 --> 00:54:42,427
Speaker 2: our better players, we know Grace Wiki is in the

1074
00:54:42,507 --> 00:54:44,667
Speaker 2: Dame Nole in camp, we know Karen Berger's and the

1075
00:54:44,707 --> 00:54:49,587
Speaker 2: Dame Nole in camp. We're hearing stories now of players

1076
00:54:49,627 --> 00:54:54,987
Speaker 2: who initially signed the letter or voiced concerns now withdrawing

1077
00:54:55,027 --> 00:55:01,187
Speaker 2: those concerns this isn't utter shambles, are complete shambles. And

1078
00:55:01,227 --> 00:55:05,187
Speaker 2: then Constellation Kappas is the it's the you know, that's

1079
00:55:05,227 --> 00:55:08,787
Speaker 2: the the elite thing, that nipple that the Silver fans

1080
00:55:08,787 --> 00:55:11,667
Speaker 2: play every year. We've got the Constellation cup. I mean,

1081
00:55:11,787 --> 00:55:14,507
Speaker 2: good luck focusing the side on trying to retain it.

1082
00:55:16,867 --> 00:55:19,547
Speaker 2: One O eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty our number.

1083
00:55:19,627 --> 00:55:21,067
Speaker 2: Let's get some calls, Hello, Pat.

1084
00:55:22,147 --> 00:55:23,067
Speaker 11: Hello, Paley.

1085
00:55:23,947 --> 00:55:27,147
Speaker 9: I'd say to Dave and just leave and.

1086
00:55:29,427 --> 00:55:31,587
Speaker 8: Let them move go the on way players. So like

1087
00:55:31,667 --> 00:55:33,747
Speaker 8: you what So he's trying to coach a team like that?

1088
00:55:34,347 --> 00:55:36,227
Speaker 2: No, but they do not. They don't all not like her.

1089
00:55:36,307 --> 00:55:36,507
Speaker 8: Pet.

1090
00:55:36,587 --> 00:55:38,547
Speaker 2: This is this is, by the sounds of it, just

1091
00:55:38,627 --> 00:55:41,827
Speaker 2: a couple of players. Dameline cares deeply about the team,

1092
00:55:41,947 --> 00:55:42,987
Speaker 2: wants to be their coach.

1093
00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:45,467
Speaker 7: So why should she know.

1094
00:55:45,667 --> 00:55:47,227
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, And a lot of people

1095
00:55:47,227 --> 00:55:49,347
Speaker 2: are saying the same thing. You know, many of us

1096
00:55:49,347 --> 00:55:51,547
Speaker 2: would just say, you know what, bug at this, I'll

1097
00:55:51,587 --> 00:55:52,387
Speaker 2: go and do something else.

1098
00:55:53,307 --> 00:55:56,107
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so what you should do?

1099
00:55:57,307 --> 00:55:57,587
Speaker 18: All right?

1100
00:55:57,627 --> 00:55:57,867
Speaker 8: Pat?

1101
00:55:57,867 --> 00:56:00,547
Speaker 2: Well what she does? Yees, sir? Good on you mate,

1102
00:56:00,547 --> 00:56:02,667
Speaker 2: Thanks Pat, thanks for calling in. Look and I look,

1103
00:56:02,707 --> 00:56:06,787
Speaker 2: I think somebody else might well have said you know what, Yeah,

1104
00:56:07,107 --> 00:56:08,987
Speaker 2: I can't be bothered with this. If you don't want me,

1105
00:56:09,027 --> 00:56:11,787
Speaker 2: I'll go and do something else. There will be any

1106
00:56:11,907 --> 00:56:16,707
Speaker 2: number of netball franchises around the world or international teams

1107
00:56:17,067 --> 00:56:20,267
Speaker 2: who would welcome Dame Nolen and with open arms, with

1108
00:56:20,587 --> 00:56:24,067
Speaker 2: open arms, but she cares so deeply about the Silver

1109
00:56:24,147 --> 00:56:28,787
Speaker 2: Ferns and coaching that team that she is willing to

1110
00:56:28,907 --> 00:56:30,107
Speaker 2: fight for the right to do that.

1111
00:56:32,067 --> 00:56:37,467
Speaker 14: Ellison, Hello, it's the complete shambles and Dame Nolen. I

1112
00:56:37,547 --> 00:56:40,107
Speaker 14: can't see her coming back now, but I've taken but

1113
00:56:40,187 --> 00:56:42,507
Speaker 14: a credit to Grace is standing up and supporting her

1114
00:56:42,587 --> 00:56:44,667
Speaker 14: that day. If you're not coming back, I want to

1115
00:56:44,667 --> 00:56:47,867
Speaker 14: thank her for a service to the netball And there's

1116
00:56:47,907 --> 00:56:50,067
Speaker 14: seven players that don't like it. They're not going to

1117
00:56:50,147 --> 00:56:52,107
Speaker 14: name the seven players. You just got to work it

1118
00:56:52,147 --> 00:56:54,147
Speaker 14: out for yourself. Who's not playing there with who they are,

1119
00:56:54,747 --> 00:56:56,307
Speaker 14: and they're not prepared to come out and say what

1120
00:56:57,387 --> 00:56:59,587
Speaker 14: they've got against not Dame Noley. So you're not going

1121
00:56:59,667 --> 00:57:02,307
Speaker 14: to get anywhere from all this doing and throwing. Are

1122
00:57:02,387 --> 00:57:04,187
Speaker 14: un least those seven players come out and say what

1123
00:57:04,267 --> 00:57:04,907
Speaker 14: the reason is?

1124
00:57:05,907 --> 00:57:06,067
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1125
00:57:06,147 --> 00:57:09,587
Speaker 2: And I think you know, without naming them, I think Netborne,

1126
00:57:09,587 --> 00:57:12,267
Speaker 2: New Zealand could certainly give us some clarity saying, okay,

1127
00:57:12,627 --> 00:57:17,907
Speaker 2: here's the basis of the complaints that they were. Look,

1128
00:57:17,947 --> 00:57:19,827
Speaker 2: I don't even want to want to spitball about.

1129
00:57:19,627 --> 00:57:19,947
Speaker 6: What they are.

1130
00:57:20,387 --> 00:57:22,267
Speaker 14: You can work out who some of the players aren't

1131
00:57:22,267 --> 00:57:23,707
Speaker 14: but you see who the ones that aren't there, so

1132
00:57:23,787 --> 00:57:25,587
Speaker 14: I can sort of my own mind there's a few

1133
00:57:25,627 --> 00:57:27,587
Speaker 14: players there that should be there that are not there.

1134
00:57:27,667 --> 00:57:29,947
Speaker 14: So you put two and again and work out they

1135
00:57:29,987 --> 00:57:31,987
Speaker 14: could be the ones. But I mean, you shouldn't have

1136
00:57:32,027 --> 00:57:33,627
Speaker 14: to do that. I don't really care who they are,

1137
00:57:33,707 --> 00:57:35,387
Speaker 14: but one isn't one of those players come up now

1138
00:57:35,427 --> 00:57:36,547
Speaker 14: and say what the reasoning is?

1139
00:57:36,667 --> 00:57:37,507
Speaker 7: Can they not do that?

1140
00:57:38,187 --> 00:57:40,427
Speaker 2: Well, I suppose they could, Allison. There's nothing to stop them.

1141
00:57:40,787 --> 00:57:42,507
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a player who's not involved in

1142
00:57:42,547 --> 00:57:44,547
Speaker 2: the silver Ferns at the moment, who was outside the

1143
00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:46,787
Speaker 2: playing group at the moment, there would be nothing at

1144
00:57:46,787 --> 00:57:50,427
Speaker 2: all to stop them from coming out and saying such

1145
00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:52,387
Speaker 2: and such a thing. You're right, see Allison. That's the

1146
00:57:52,427 --> 00:57:54,787
Speaker 2: other problem with this is that, yeah, you're right. You

1147
00:57:54,827 --> 00:57:56,267
Speaker 2: look at the team and you say, okay, well that

1148
00:57:56,387 --> 00:57:58,907
Speaker 2: player isn't there. That player isn't there she's not there.

1149
00:57:58,987 --> 00:58:01,227
Speaker 2: She's not there. So you put two and two together

1150
00:58:01,347 --> 00:58:03,667
Speaker 2: and maybe four is the answer. But maybe it's not.

1151
00:58:04,187 --> 00:58:07,827
Speaker 2: Maybe they're out for different reasons. Maybe they're not, you know,

1152
00:58:08,147 --> 00:58:10,867
Speaker 2: sitting this out, or have made themselves unavailable or whatever

1153
00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:13,227
Speaker 2: for the day Noline reasons. That's the thing. We just

1154
00:58:13,267 --> 00:58:13,627
Speaker 2: don't know.

1155
00:58:15,027 --> 00:58:15,507
Speaker 3: We don't know.

1156
00:58:17,427 --> 00:58:19,347
Speaker 2: Thanks Ellison for your core one twenty four dob I

1157
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Speaker 2: hold their mate with you after this eight hundred and

1158
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Speaker 2: eighty ten to eighty speeline there if you want to

1159
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Speaker 2: One twenty eight Dobo, thanks for holding mate.

1180
00:59:34,907 --> 00:59:37,707
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just so Saday. She's a national treasure. She's

1181
00:59:37,747 --> 00:59:40,987
Speaker 5: been thrown under the bus. Her mandate was to get

1182
00:59:41,107 --> 00:59:43,827
Speaker 5: seven world class players. She's got one in Grace and

1183
00:59:43,867 --> 00:59:46,667
Speaker 5: Nowiki in pursuit of the other six. She held a

1184
00:59:46,707 --> 00:59:49,587
Speaker 5: training camp in January this year where apparently they got

1185
00:59:49,667 --> 00:59:51,147
Speaker 5: up before five o'clock in the morning.

1186
00:59:51,507 --> 00:59:52,467
Speaker 8: Players didn't like that.

1187
00:59:53,107 --> 00:59:55,947
Speaker 5: The janitor on one of the occasions of that training

1188
00:59:55,987 --> 00:59:57,427
Speaker 5: camp said, well, you guys are going to have to

1189
00:59:57,787 --> 00:59:59,627
Speaker 5: lock up and take and turn off the lights because

1190
00:59:59,627 --> 01:00:00,427
Speaker 5: it's too late for him.

1191
01:00:00,307 --> 01:00:00,947
Speaker 7: To wait around.

1192
01:00:01,387 --> 01:00:04,107
Speaker 5: So she pushed them hard in that summer training camp

1193
01:00:04,987 --> 01:00:08,427
Speaker 5: and clearly the camp the Silver Ferns are in two

1194
01:00:08,507 --> 01:00:11,547
Speaker 5: camps now the one who can tolerate her torrid almost

1195
01:00:12,667 --> 01:00:16,787
Speaker 5: Do I say brutal training methods and philosophies and others

1196
01:00:17,147 --> 01:00:22,307
Speaker 5: can't women's bitchiness, player power and inability to step up

1197
01:00:22,707 --> 01:00:25,547
Speaker 5: and fulfill what the coach is requesting in a high

1198
01:00:25,587 --> 01:00:29,947
Speaker 5: performance level, taxpayer funded high performance level. Look, they are

1199
01:00:30,067 --> 01:00:32,587
Speaker 5: extreme athletes and she's asked to do extreme things and

1200
01:00:32,947 --> 01:00:34,267
Speaker 5: more than half can't cope.

1201
01:00:34,307 --> 01:00:35,347
Speaker 8: Mate, And there's your problem.

1202
01:00:36,427 --> 01:00:38,507
Speaker 2: Surely that board New Zealand should back their coach then

1203
01:00:38,627 --> 01:00:41,107
Speaker 2: if that and I agree with what you say. She

1204
01:00:41,547 --> 01:00:45,307
Speaker 2: has been charged with selecting a team that can that

1205
01:00:45,507 --> 01:00:48,947
Speaker 2: can be successful at elite level. She does that through

1206
01:00:49,467 --> 01:00:51,787
Speaker 2: her methods, but she has been entrusted to do that

1207
01:00:51,947 --> 01:00:54,707
Speaker 2: because she's been appointed as Silver Fern's head coach.

1208
01:00:56,067 --> 01:00:57,547
Speaker 5: Do you remember on hockey coach?

1209
01:00:58,107 --> 01:00:58,267
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1210
01:00:58,307 --> 01:00:59,507
Speaker 7: No, I agree? Do you remember these?

1211
01:00:59,507 --> 01:01:02,347
Speaker 5: Head on hockey coach Mark Hagar was women to bitchiness

1212
01:01:02,387 --> 01:01:05,067
Speaker 5: after to run the Commonwealth Games gold Medal in Australia

1213
01:01:05,107 --> 01:01:07,827
Speaker 5: Gold Coast is in Australia, which is very hard to do,

1214
01:01:07,947 --> 01:01:10,547
Speaker 5: let alone in a major event, and he got driven

1215
01:01:10,627 --> 01:01:13,747
Speaker 5: out for what was it an email where instead of

1216
01:01:13,867 --> 01:01:17,147
Speaker 5: pushing one button to the whoever's he accountable the CEO,

1217
01:01:17,227 --> 01:01:19,907
Speaker 5: he hit send all and it was basically something some

1218
01:01:20,027 --> 01:01:22,347
Speaker 5: women are a bit overweight, not fit, we need to lift.

1219
01:01:22,427 --> 01:01:25,267
Speaker 5: They took offense and next minute he's no longer the coach.

1220
01:01:25,587 --> 01:01:30,387
Speaker 5: So you go if there's a similarity there. But I mean,

1221
01:01:30,467 --> 01:01:33,227
Speaker 5: Dame nol she's proven, she's won at the Australian level.

1222
01:01:33,267 --> 01:01:35,387
Speaker 5: She's the only New Zealand coach to win at Trans

1223
01:01:35,467 --> 01:01:38,027
Speaker 5: Tasman A and Z level with the magic what twenty

1224
01:01:38,107 --> 01:01:40,067
Speaker 5: twelve Northern New Zealand teams did it before they dan

1225
01:01:40,227 --> 01:01:45,107
Speaker 5: that comp I mean she is excellence personified And okay,

1226
01:01:45,467 --> 01:01:48,067
Speaker 5: maybe the compromises she's got a button off a little bit,

1227
01:01:48,147 --> 01:01:49,947
Speaker 5: but yeah, where's the transparency?

1228
01:01:50,107 --> 01:01:51,427
Speaker 2: TV and ZED news, you know.

1229
01:01:51,467 --> 01:01:52,627
Speaker 5: They do a fantastic job.

1230
01:01:52,947 --> 01:01:55,347
Speaker 19: Trump in an exclusive interview with Jenny.

1231
01:01:55,147 --> 01:01:59,187
Speaker 5: Wiley and failed to ask the question, why Jenny did

1232
01:01:59,267 --> 01:02:00,067
Speaker 5: you suspend her?

1233
01:02:00,267 --> 01:02:00,387
Speaker 3: Now?

1234
01:02:00,547 --> 01:02:03,987
Speaker 5: Was TV and Z gang because they're doing the national

1235
01:02:04,187 --> 01:02:07,147
Speaker 5: coverage of the domestic competition next year. They were told

1236
01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:11,027
Speaker 5: don't ask, and that's going to turn fast into NPC

1237
01:02:11,467 --> 01:02:13,667
Speaker 5: Rugby's equivalent of NPC because a lot of the girls

1238
01:02:13,707 --> 01:02:15,907
Speaker 5: will play in Australia because that's where the money is.

1239
01:02:16,467 --> 01:02:20,867
Speaker 5: We've seen one of our captains has retired because there's

1240
01:02:20,867 --> 01:02:24,187
Speaker 5: not enough money and she wants to be with her kids. Incredibly,

1241
01:02:24,267 --> 01:02:28,707
Speaker 5: the incumbent or the interim coach made Grace milWiki the captain,

1242
01:02:28,787 --> 01:02:32,827
Speaker 5: and the captain's now spoken, so it's untenable. I think

1243
01:02:32,907 --> 01:02:35,067
Speaker 5: Jenny Wiley has just fall on his sword.

1244
01:02:35,147 --> 01:02:35,907
Speaker 7: She says she won't.

1245
01:02:35,947 --> 01:02:38,107
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a mess, Piney, this is an art,

1246
01:02:38,147 --> 01:02:41,787
Speaker 5: a mess. Constellation cup flip Grace milWiki. Maybe she's the

1247
01:02:41,867 --> 01:02:45,227
Speaker 5: player coach or if they can't pick Knowles's coach, why

1248
01:02:45,227 --> 01:02:47,547
Speaker 5: don't they pick her at CEO because the off court problems,

1249
01:02:47,587 --> 01:02:49,067
Speaker 5: believe it or not, are bigger than the on court

1250
01:02:49,107 --> 01:02:50,187
Speaker 5: corp problems at the moment.

1251
01:02:51,027 --> 01:02:54,667
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling Dobbo well well articulated as usual from you.

1252
01:02:57,467 --> 01:02:59,747
Speaker 2: Just back to the point that I was making during

1253
01:02:59,787 --> 01:03:02,547
Speaker 2: that conversation. Is that and the point that Dobbo made

1254
01:03:02,667 --> 01:03:07,507
Speaker 2: that Dan Nolan was hired for a reason she was

1255
01:03:07,587 --> 01:03:10,427
Speaker 2: hired to come in and oversee a high performance environment

1256
01:03:11,267 --> 01:03:16,147
Speaker 2: to win burg netball games, to win World championships, to

1257
01:03:16,187 --> 01:03:19,147
Speaker 2: win Commonwealth games. And so when you do that, and

1258
01:03:19,267 --> 01:03:22,827
Speaker 2: not just a netball but in any sport when you're

1259
01:03:22,987 --> 01:03:27,107
Speaker 2: talking about high performance environments, you hire a coach and

1260
01:03:27,227 --> 01:03:30,267
Speaker 2: then you have to give them, you have to give

1261
01:03:30,347 --> 01:03:34,427
Speaker 2: them the latitude to do what they told you they

1262
01:03:34,467 --> 01:03:39,547
Speaker 2: were going to do during the recruitment process. Netball New

1263
01:03:39,627 --> 01:03:43,067
Speaker 2: Zealand should back their coach. I'm not saying that you

1264
01:03:43,227 --> 01:03:47,187
Speaker 2: can just ignore any complaint that comes your way. Absolutely not.

1265
01:03:48,027 --> 01:03:50,867
Speaker 2: It's not, you know, a means to an end situation

1266
01:03:51,027 --> 01:03:59,787
Speaker 2: where you just blinker yourself to unacceptable behavior. But Netball

1267
01:03:59,827 --> 01:04:02,827
Speaker 2: New Zealand need to back their coach in the situation.

1268
01:04:03,787 --> 01:04:07,787
Speaker 2: Absolutely need to back their coach. And a big part

1269
01:04:07,867 --> 01:04:12,747
Speaker 2: of me, says Dave Nolen, should pick the players who

1270
01:04:12,787 --> 01:04:16,027
Speaker 2: are happy to work in her environment. Neple New Zealand

1271
01:04:16,027 --> 01:04:20,627
Speaker 2: should say, look, we hear your concerns, you group of

1272
01:04:20,707 --> 01:04:25,187
Speaker 2: players or you individual players. We hear your concerns. We

1273
01:04:25,347 --> 01:04:27,667
Speaker 2: are confident though, that we are heading down the right

1274
01:04:27,747 --> 01:04:31,627
Speaker 2: track with our current coaching setup. So you can be

1275
01:04:31,827 --> 01:04:33,787
Speaker 2: part of that if you want to or if you

1276
01:04:33,787 --> 01:04:37,067
Speaker 2: would rather withdraw your services, that's fine. And you know

1277
01:04:37,147 --> 01:04:40,027
Speaker 2: what Dame Nolene is. She's famous for picking the players

1278
01:04:40,027 --> 01:04:44,187
Speaker 2: who she thinks will you carry out her game plan.

1279
01:04:44,667 --> 01:04:46,987
Speaker 2: And a lot of players have been not selected by

1280
01:04:47,107 --> 01:04:50,587
Speaker 2: Dave Nolen worked very hard and been re selected by them.

1281
01:04:50,827 --> 01:04:53,907
Speaker 2: She does not hold a grudge. She doesn't just not

1282
01:04:54,067 --> 01:04:56,587
Speaker 2: pick players because at one point they didn't quite meet

1283
01:04:56,627 --> 01:05:02,187
Speaker 2: the standards she was after. She cares so deeply about

1284
01:05:02,227 --> 01:05:04,907
Speaker 2: this team. That's the other thing that has become really

1285
01:05:04,987 --> 01:05:08,987
Speaker 2: obvious here. You know what, many of us will have

1286
01:05:09,027 --> 01:05:10,347
Speaker 2: just thrown our hands in there and said, you know what,

1287
01:05:11,747 --> 01:05:17,107
Speaker 2: I'll go and do something else. There's other jobs for

1288
01:05:17,227 --> 01:05:23,907
Speaker 2: me in a netball landscape. Text there from size simple

1289
01:05:23,947 --> 01:05:26,947
Speaker 2: answers to sack the players who complained they're not team players,

1290
01:05:26,987 --> 01:05:29,107
Speaker 2: won't go deep into the trenches for their teammates. Doesn't

1291
01:05:29,107 --> 01:05:30,587
Speaker 2: matter how good they are, they don't deserve to wear

1292
01:05:30,587 --> 01:05:34,747
Speaker 2: the silver fern. The people that allowed it to get

1293
01:05:34,827 --> 01:05:36,627
Speaker 2: this far and to be this much of a mess,

1294
01:05:36,667 --> 01:05:38,627
Speaker 2: and new Zella Netball should also be sacked, clearly, not

1295
01:05:38,707 --> 01:05:40,947
Speaker 2: management potential. That's the other part of this as well,

1296
01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:43,347
Speaker 2: is how long it's taken. Like I say, where they knew,

1297
01:05:43,867 --> 01:05:48,267
Speaker 2: they knew the schedule, they knew that there's a Constellation

1298
01:05:48,387 --> 01:05:54,787
Speaker 2: Cup series coming up. Janet, Hello, oh hi, it just

1299
01:05:54,947 --> 01:05:55,307
Speaker 2: may be.

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01:05:55,387 --> 01:06:00,987
Speaker 20: Covered because I just slotted in. The Thing that amazes

1301
01:06:01,147 --> 01:06:06,147
Speaker 20: me is once that the people who were concerned went

1302
01:06:06,507 --> 01:06:11,987
Speaker 20: management and voice their concern, why didn't they then go

1303
01:06:12,147 --> 01:06:16,307
Speaker 20: to Nolene and say we have got these problems, get

1304
01:06:16,387 --> 01:06:19,827
Speaker 20: them together and talk about it and find out what's so.

1305
01:06:20,347 --> 01:06:23,627
Speaker 20: But to leave Dan Nolen out of the whole question

1306
01:06:24,227 --> 01:06:29,107
Speaker 20: was Luis. I would imagine that she's probably got grounds

1307
01:06:29,187 --> 01:06:29,787
Speaker 20: to sue them.

1308
01:06:30,827 --> 01:06:33,507
Speaker 2: Jennet, it's a very good point if everybody could have

1309
01:06:33,587 --> 01:06:36,267
Speaker 2: just been an adult for a while. Look at well.

1310
01:06:36,707 --> 01:06:39,867
Speaker 2: There are disagreements. There are disagreements in everyday life all

1311
01:06:39,907 --> 01:06:42,387
Speaker 2: the time. I don't always agree with my family members.

1312
01:06:42,427 --> 01:06:44,867
Speaker 2: I don't always agree with my workmates, but you know

1313
01:06:45,027 --> 01:06:48,067
Speaker 2: I certainly don't. Well, I mean, the family's a different situation.

1314
01:06:48,147 --> 01:06:50,507
Speaker 2: But if if a workmate of mine or a manager

1315
01:06:50,547 --> 01:06:55,707
Speaker 2: of mine was annoying me, or I didn't feel he

1316
01:06:55,827 --> 01:06:57,667
Speaker 2: was treating me in a fair way, I wouldn't go

1317
01:06:57,747 --> 01:06:59,827
Speaker 2: to the CEO. I'd go to my manager and say, hey,

1318
01:06:59,867 --> 01:07:00,627
Speaker 2: can we knock this out?

1319
01:07:01,667 --> 01:07:05,507
Speaker 20: Absolutely? And I mean I'm assuming that these are professionals

1320
01:07:06,147 --> 01:07:09,667
Speaker 20: on the board and that sort of thing, and I'm

1321
01:07:09,787 --> 01:07:12,987
Speaker 20: just staggered about and she didn't know anything about it.

1322
01:07:13,627 --> 01:07:14,827
Speaker 20: I'm just appalled at that.

1323
01:07:15,827 --> 01:07:18,027
Speaker 2: Jenna, That's again a very good point. She didn't You're right,

1324
01:07:18,067 --> 01:07:20,467
Speaker 2: she was blindsided by the whole thing when she was

1325
01:07:20,507 --> 01:07:23,147
Speaker 2: stood down. That was the first she had heard of it.

1326
01:07:24,347 --> 01:07:28,587
Speaker 20: And the women that have complained and probably have, you know,

1327
01:07:28,867 --> 01:07:31,027
Speaker 20: some complaint about what was happening.

1328
01:07:34,187 --> 01:07:35,627
Speaker 2: Oh, Jennet, we just lost you as you were in

1329
01:07:35,667 --> 01:07:37,547
Speaker 2: full flight. I think we got the just to what

1330
01:07:37,627 --> 01:07:39,147
Speaker 2: you were saying, though. Thank you for calling in.

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01:07:39,387 --> 01:07:43,947
Speaker 9: Hello Bruce, Yeah, Hello, hello Piney, thanks for taking the call.

1332
01:07:44,107 --> 01:07:47,467
Speaker 9: Just I've been listening to this netball debate and I

1333
01:07:48,347 --> 01:07:52,027
Speaker 9: was just just then I got an idea of sort

1334
01:07:52,067 --> 01:07:56,267
Speaker 9: of what the perspective that maybe carrying is. I don't

1335
01:07:56,267 --> 01:07:58,667
Speaker 9: know the makeup of the team, but you get players

1336
01:07:58,707 --> 01:08:02,707
Speaker 9: that have very experienced, very skillful. They can still do

1337
01:08:02,867 --> 01:08:05,827
Speaker 9: the stub and they can sustain it for the period

1338
01:08:05,867 --> 01:08:10,507
Speaker 9: of a game. But pre season, you know these people,

1339
01:08:10,587 --> 01:08:12,747
Speaker 9: I don't know who they are, but just from looking

1340
01:08:12,787 --> 01:08:18,747
Speaker 9: at other situations where contracted players have been contracted from

1341
01:08:18,787 --> 01:08:22,147
Speaker 9: one club and then contracted to another club and their

1342
01:08:22,227 --> 01:08:25,827
Speaker 9: veteran players they go to the new club and the

1343
01:08:25,907 --> 01:08:28,507
Speaker 9: new coach and they you know, they're running up and

1344
01:08:28,587 --> 01:08:31,587
Speaker 9: down sand hills for two hours a day. And these

1345
01:08:31,627 --> 01:08:37,587
Speaker 9: guys have played. I'm thinking about the AFL VFL, particularly

1346
01:08:37,787 --> 01:08:41,387
Speaker 9: a Geelong Ford who went over to West Perth and

1347
01:08:41,547 --> 01:08:44,027
Speaker 9: he'd had one hundred and fifty games, had about fort

1348
01:08:44,187 --> 01:08:47,507
Speaker 9: deconstructions and the coach was hard as and he was

1349
01:08:47,587 --> 01:08:50,267
Speaker 9: making them run up and down these sand hills, and

1350
01:08:50,387 --> 01:08:53,827
Speaker 9: I just wonder if what's happened is you've got this

1351
01:08:54,147 --> 01:08:59,107
Speaker 9: really tough, staunch coach that's going to make everyone go

1352
01:08:59,267 --> 01:09:02,347
Speaker 9: to the line, but you know, some of these players'

1353
01:09:02,387 --> 01:09:04,547
Speaker 9: bodies aren't going to stand it, and if they've pushed

1354
01:09:04,627 --> 01:09:08,387
Speaker 9: that hard in pre season, they may not make the

1355
01:09:08,467 --> 01:09:11,147
Speaker 9: rest of the seaton, or they may have a nagging,

1356
01:09:11,227 --> 01:09:13,987
Speaker 9: niggling injury which is not going to take a really

1357
01:09:14,187 --> 01:09:18,507
Speaker 9: tough preseason. So that's just my perspective from what I've

1358
01:09:18,627 --> 01:09:22,547
Speaker 9: seen before where sort of contracted players go to a

1359
01:09:22,627 --> 01:09:27,267
Speaker 9: new club on a new contract and really get flogged preseason.

1360
01:09:27,787 --> 01:09:30,507
Speaker 9: So that's just my just something that sort of sprung

1361
01:09:30,587 --> 01:09:30,867
Speaker 9: to mind.

1362
01:09:30,947 --> 01:09:31,507
Speaker 8: Ben Piney.

1363
01:09:31,947 --> 01:09:34,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure it applies here, Bruce necessarily in

1364
01:09:35,067 --> 01:09:38,267
Speaker 2: terms of you know, going to no no. I look,

1365
01:09:38,307 --> 01:09:40,147
Speaker 2: I absolutely take the point. You're right is if they

1366
01:09:40,187 --> 01:09:42,267
Speaker 2: gets older, you need to manage their body better and

1367
01:09:42,347 --> 01:09:45,507
Speaker 2: all that sort of thing. But you know, Dame Nolan's

1368
01:09:45,507 --> 01:09:48,627
Speaker 2: been coach of the Silver Firn since twenty nineteen. Any

1369
01:09:48,747 --> 01:09:51,747
Speaker 2: experienced player in that team has been under her guidance

1370
01:09:51,787 --> 01:09:54,427
Speaker 2: for the last five or six years. I feel like

1371
01:09:54,547 --> 01:09:57,027
Speaker 2: you've built a relationship during that time where you can say, hey,

1372
01:09:57,587 --> 01:10:00,027
Speaker 2: Dame Noles, getting I'm starting to take a bit longer

1373
01:10:00,067 --> 01:10:02,907
Speaker 2: to recover. Can we look at some sort of performance

1374
01:10:02,947 --> 01:10:05,307
Speaker 2: plan for me. It's not as though she's new to

1375
01:10:05,387 --> 01:10:09,067
Speaker 2: the environment, and and neither are they. Like there may

1376
01:10:09,147 --> 01:10:11,267
Speaker 2: be a couple who have come in as experienced players,

1377
01:10:11,307 --> 01:10:14,227
Speaker 2: but most of them have been under her mentorship for

1378
01:10:14,307 --> 01:10:18,507
Speaker 2: six years. They know what she's about. And another part

1379
01:10:18,547 --> 01:10:21,627
Speaker 2: of me thinks, well, why haven't they found a problem

1380
01:10:21,707 --> 01:10:24,467
Speaker 2: with it before? And now if that's if it's so bad,

1381
01:10:24,867 --> 01:10:27,147
Speaker 2: unless it's gotten worse, and it might have. Look, let's

1382
01:10:27,147 --> 01:10:29,467
Speaker 2: hover above this for a sec. You know this is

1383
01:10:29,507 --> 01:10:31,707
Speaker 2: a show about opinions, and I think we've made mind

1384
01:10:31,747 --> 01:10:37,107
Speaker 2: fairly clear. But we can't just ignore any suggestion that

1385
01:10:37,227 --> 01:10:40,747
Speaker 2: there is a problem within this environment that is driven

1386
01:10:40,827 --> 01:10:44,067
Speaker 2: from the coaching team, Dave Nolan and others. We have

1387
01:10:44,227 --> 01:10:47,427
Speaker 2: to entertain the possibility that that is the case, that

1388
01:10:47,667 --> 01:10:50,667
Speaker 2: the complaints that have been made and the concerns that

1389
01:10:50,787 --> 01:10:53,627
Speaker 2: have been raised are genuine and need addressing. Net On

1390
01:10:53,707 --> 01:10:56,587
Speaker 2: New Zealand have clearly decided that they are the biggest

1391
01:10:56,587 --> 01:10:59,827
Speaker 2: sue they've struck is that they haven't said anything, been

1392
01:10:59,867 --> 01:11:03,227
Speaker 2: an absolute cone of silence the whole time, including to

1393
01:11:03,307 --> 01:11:03,947
Speaker 2: their own people.

1394
01:11:04,547 --> 01:11:08,107
Speaker 7: Scott Olo, okay for any first time call it of

1395
01:11:08,227 --> 01:11:09,747
Speaker 7: your show. So there we go.

1396
01:11:10,267 --> 01:11:13,187
Speaker 5: Good to have you with a Scott So just a

1397
01:11:13,227 --> 01:11:15,387
Speaker 5: couple of things I think on the net ball.

1398
01:11:16,827 --> 01:11:18,467
Speaker 7: This Dame Nolean, Taro.

1399
01:11:18,587 --> 01:11:20,347
Speaker 8: Stuff, the two coaches.

1400
01:11:20,427 --> 01:11:21,947
Speaker 19: So I haven't really watched a lot of people, and

1401
01:11:22,027 --> 01:11:24,707
Speaker 19: recently I've watched some of the tiny Jamis materies. This

1402
01:11:24,787 --> 01:11:28,027
Speaker 19: time the two coaches that have been there as interim coaches,

1403
01:11:28,027 --> 01:11:29,267
Speaker 19: I think they've done a brilliant job.

1404
01:11:31,347 --> 01:11:35,187
Speaker 8: So and as you say, what is the issue worth.

1405
01:11:37,107 --> 01:11:39,347
Speaker 7: Dame Nolean and the players?

1406
01:11:39,747 --> 01:11:41,827
Speaker 19: What is the extra sacty issue, as you say, is

1407
01:11:41,867 --> 01:11:43,707
Speaker 19: it because they're not getting enough time to recover. Is

1408
01:11:43,787 --> 01:11:46,987
Speaker 19: she watching them too hard in trainings and practices and stuff,

1409
01:11:47,507 --> 01:11:49,947
Speaker 19: or is there something else going on in the background

1410
01:11:49,987 --> 01:11:53,267
Speaker 19: that nobody's letting know. I mean, for your captain to

1411
01:11:53,307 --> 01:11:55,707
Speaker 19: come out and say I don't want to play under her,

1412
01:11:56,507 --> 01:11:57,787
Speaker 19: there's something made you going on.

1413
01:11:57,987 --> 01:12:01,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure about the Amelia Anick and

1414
01:12:01,107 --> 01:12:04,467
Speaker 2: Oco situation, Scott that so you're referring to obviously, Look

1415
01:12:04,507 --> 01:12:07,147
Speaker 2: I I you know she is getting, you know, towards

1416
01:12:07,187 --> 01:12:08,787
Speaker 2: the back end of her career. I know she's got

1417
01:12:08,827 --> 01:12:11,347
Speaker 2: a family, she's she's been very open about her mental

1418
01:12:11,387 --> 01:12:13,427
Speaker 2: health challenges as well as media around solic I'm not

1419
01:12:13,547 --> 01:12:16,507
Speaker 2: sure whether yeah, that is related to this, but you know,

1420
01:12:18,107 --> 01:12:20,227
Speaker 2: to withdraw her services if she doesn't want to play

1421
01:12:20,227 --> 01:12:21,227
Speaker 2: in a partial game.

1422
01:12:22,107 --> 01:12:24,227
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. But it's like any sportsman.

1423
01:12:24,307 --> 01:12:26,547
Speaker 19: So whether it's a track and field or a rugby

1424
01:12:26,587 --> 01:12:29,467
Speaker 19: player or a league or a swim or whatever, everybody

1425
01:12:29,547 --> 01:12:32,627
Speaker 19: gets to the point where you physically can't compete anymore,

1426
01:12:33,987 --> 01:12:36,667
Speaker 19: but you don't blame your coach because you're having problems.

1427
01:12:36,987 --> 01:12:39,227
Speaker 19: So there must be something under the surface or I

1428
01:12:39,307 --> 01:12:41,907
Speaker 19: might have been Karen Burger or whatever under the surface

1429
01:12:42,067 --> 01:12:45,987
Speaker 19: that is not gelling now between the players and the coach.

1430
01:12:46,427 --> 01:12:49,387
Speaker 19: And the other point that I think the New Zealand

1431
01:12:49,427 --> 01:12:53,187
Speaker 19: netwill has stuffed up on is the Great's Wiki thing

1432
01:12:53,707 --> 01:12:57,147
Speaker 19: letting her come back from Australia and the exodus and

1433
01:12:58,027 --> 01:13:01,707
Speaker 19: want for the players to come back to New Zealand

1434
01:13:01,747 --> 01:13:04,587
Speaker 19: because Grace Wiking has done it going to Australia to play.

1435
01:13:05,307 --> 01:13:08,947
Speaker 19: I think that's a really big thing to broken New

1436
01:13:09,067 --> 01:13:12,667
Speaker 19: Zealand's own protocols to allow one player back. Now, all

1437
01:13:12,667 --> 01:13:15,467
Speaker 19: of a sudden we've had seven, eight, ten whatever top

1438
01:13:15,587 --> 01:13:18,627
Speaker 19: line players go over to Australia. Thinking that they're going

1439
01:13:18,707 --> 01:13:21,347
Speaker 19: to do exactly what Grace Wiki's done and come back

1440
01:13:21,427 --> 01:13:24,107
Speaker 19: and play for the Silver Ferns without being in the

1441
01:13:24,187 --> 01:13:28,227
Speaker 19: local competition is not a good thing, you know.

1442
01:13:28,467 --> 01:13:29,747
Speaker 7: The All Blacks are the same way.

1443
01:13:30,307 --> 01:13:33,627
Speaker 19: They have said with Richie Mlanga and even at the

1444
01:13:33,667 --> 01:13:37,507
Speaker 19: moment Lester paire Nuku, although he's in the team tonight,

1445
01:13:38,187 --> 01:13:40,267
Speaker 19: they have to come back and compete in New Zealand

1446
01:13:40,267 --> 01:13:41,267
Speaker 19: before they can make the team.

1447
01:13:42,547 --> 01:13:42,747
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1448
01:13:42,947 --> 01:13:44,587
Speaker 7: So I think New Zealand New.

1449
01:13:44,587 --> 01:13:46,907
Speaker 19: Was sort of cutting their own nose off despite their

1450
01:13:46,947 --> 01:13:50,147
Speaker 19: face by allowing that one player to dictate terms.

1451
01:13:52,067 --> 01:13:54,067
Speaker 2: Scott, thanks for your call, mate, and please call again.

1452
01:13:55,587 --> 01:13:58,907
Speaker 2: I'm actually a fan of the Grace wiki return and

1453
01:14:00,707 --> 01:14:03,547
Speaker 2: for the main reason that she she when she left,

1454
01:14:03,627 --> 01:14:05,587
Speaker 2: she didn't have any guarantee that she was going to

1455
01:14:05,587 --> 01:14:08,107
Speaker 2: be coming back. She in many ways was the catalyst

1456
01:14:08,187 --> 01:14:10,987
Speaker 2: for the rule change. And and yes you might say

1457
01:14:11,027 --> 01:14:13,747
Speaker 2: that that, you know, if players want to go and

1458
01:14:13,827 --> 01:14:16,507
Speaker 2: play overseas, then so be it, but they forgo the

1459
01:14:16,587 --> 01:14:18,907
Speaker 2: opportunity to play for the Silver Ferns if they choose

1460
01:14:18,987 --> 01:14:20,987
Speaker 2: to do that. I'm just not sure our talent, Paul

1461
01:14:21,067 --> 01:14:23,107
Speaker 2: is big enough for that. It's a separate situation in

1462
01:14:23,227 --> 01:14:25,547
Speaker 2: rugby where there is the talent that can make up

1463
01:14:25,587 --> 01:14:27,507
Speaker 2: for it. But yeah, good points one mate, Scott. Thanks

1464
01:14:27,547 --> 01:14:29,147
Speaker 2: for calling in mate. I've got to leave it there,

1465
01:14:29,267 --> 01:14:31,507
Speaker 2: folks on the net Ball seventeen to two. More discussion

1466
01:14:31,507 --> 01:14:34,067
Speaker 2: that we had, I'm sure, and hopefully a resolution somewhere

1467
01:14:34,107 --> 01:14:36,267
Speaker 2: in our future. We're across the Tasman with Adam Peacock.

1468
01:14:36,267 --> 01:14:36,867
Speaker 2: When we come back.

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Speaker 2: At Baby thirteen to two. Was he correspondent Adam Peacock

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Speaker 2: with us Wallaby's All Blacks tonight in Perth, Adam, how

1475
01:14:55,267 --> 01:14:57,147
Speaker 2: confident are you feeling about a Wallaby's win?

1476
01:14:58,587 --> 01:14:58,787
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1477
01:14:59,187 --> 01:14:59,547
Speaker 7: Mildly.

1478
01:14:59,667 --> 01:15:02,187
Speaker 10: I mean we've got some names back, namely Will Skelt

1479
01:15:02,227 --> 01:15:03,747
Speaker 10: and we'll send a b a better silent in in it.

1480
01:15:04,987 --> 01:15:09,667
Speaker 10: You another one? Let's slip last week even though it's

1481
01:15:10,067 --> 01:15:13,787
Speaker 10: probably all but deserveable women on balance. Hard to say,

1482
01:15:13,867 --> 01:15:17,027
Speaker 10: but yeah, I think an occasion as well with James

1483
01:15:17,027 --> 01:15:22,747
Speaker 10: Slipper retiring absolutely all his legends. So yeah, so it's

1484
01:15:23,907 --> 01:15:27,467
Speaker 10: one there that they should take. Really, I mean, okay's

1485
01:15:27,507 --> 01:15:30,187
Speaker 10: New Zealand. It's a bloody done and those two things

1486
01:15:30,227 --> 01:15:33,707
Speaker 10: haven't equated to anything nice for Australia, right have majority

1487
01:15:33,707 --> 01:15:38,427
Speaker 10: of the last twenty years. But yeah over there, Yeah again,

1488
01:15:38,507 --> 01:15:41,947
Speaker 10: the timing of it, our Grand Final weekend and the

1489
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Speaker 10: casion like this deserves to have clear air. But now

1490
01:15:46,227 --> 01:15:48,587
Speaker 10: mildly confidence, this confidence of can be against New Zealand.

1491
01:15:49,187 --> 01:15:51,347
Speaker 2: What's that? Have you been to that stadium over in Perth?

1492
01:15:51,427 --> 01:15:52,387
Speaker 2: Looks amazing on TV.

1493
01:15:52,467 --> 01:15:53,027
Speaker 3: Have you been there?

1494
01:15:53,507 --> 01:15:55,827
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, it's a big oval, so you kind of

1495
01:15:56,027 --> 01:15:58,627
Speaker 10: lose a bit. It's not like you know, you're on

1496
01:15:58,707 --> 01:16:02,547
Speaker 10: top of everything. Our best stadium for footy, i've got

1497
01:16:02,587 --> 01:16:05,867
Speaker 10: a couple is probably some Corps Stadium in Brisbane and

1498
01:16:06,347 --> 01:16:09,707
Speaker 10: out Stadium in Sydney where it's built for that. It's

1499
01:16:09,707 --> 01:16:12,947
Speaker 10: a rectangle. This is an AFL stadium really and they're

1500
01:16:12,947 --> 01:16:15,267
Speaker 10: going to have the first ashes test. They're really hard

1501
01:16:15,387 --> 01:16:19,547
Speaker 10: surface too, so if there's a bit of rain around

1502
01:16:19,547 --> 01:16:22,507
Speaker 10: it can make things a bit difficult because it's like

1503
01:16:22,627 --> 01:16:25,587
Speaker 10: a really hard surface underneath and really could be on top.

1504
01:16:25,667 --> 01:16:29,547
Speaker 10: But if it's dry, yeah we could get like forty

1505
01:16:29,627 --> 01:16:30,547
Speaker 10: thirty eight or something like that.

1506
01:16:32,627 --> 01:16:35,147
Speaker 2: We'll look out for a game of running rugby tonight

1507
01:16:35,187 --> 01:16:39,507
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night NRL Grand Final and your hometown of Sydney

1508
01:16:39,547 --> 01:16:41,827
Speaker 2: of course, couple of teams from outside state coming in.

1509
01:16:41,947 --> 01:16:44,507
Speaker 2: Melbourne Storm, Brisbane Broncos. How you see this one playing out?

1510
01:16:45,027 --> 01:16:49,027
Speaker 10: Yeah, you got the brilliance of Brisbane and yeah, just

1511
01:16:49,307 --> 01:16:51,587
Speaker 10: the methodical Storm, even though I think that's a bit

1512
01:16:51,627 --> 01:16:54,787
Speaker 10: of a misnomer. On Melbourne Storm, they've got as much

1513
01:16:54,827 --> 01:16:56,747
Speaker 10: flair as I think I can ever remember from a

1514
01:16:56,907 --> 01:17:01,307
Speaker 10: Melbourne Storm side, it's the games that they drift out

1515
01:17:01,547 --> 01:17:06,307
Speaker 10: and mentally and defensively that kind of make you scratch

1516
01:17:06,347 --> 01:17:07,707
Speaker 10: your head. And I've done a time and time again

1517
01:17:07,787 --> 01:17:09,827
Speaker 10: this season, but they have got it right at the

1518
01:17:09,867 --> 01:17:13,147
Speaker 10: back end when they needed to. This service again, I

1519
01:17:13,187 --> 01:17:15,987
Speaker 10: think he's your eleventh Grand Final, Craig Dleamy. It's incredible.

1520
01:17:16,467 --> 01:17:19,627
Speaker 10: So he's got more Grand Finals for himself than most

1521
01:17:19,707 --> 01:17:25,507
Speaker 10: other clubs, full stop, it's amazing. So yeah, he'll have them.

1522
01:17:25,707 --> 01:17:28,427
Speaker 10: I think in the right frame of mind, they probably

1523
01:17:28,507 --> 01:17:31,627
Speaker 10: deserves the edge of his favorites. But Brisbane have got

1524
01:17:31,667 --> 01:17:35,067
Speaker 10: the strife. They've got the best forward in the game

1525
01:17:35,427 --> 01:17:37,707
Speaker 10: in Paying Hears and probably the most exciting player of

1526
01:17:37,787 --> 01:17:40,347
Speaker 10: the game in Rhese Wesh and he can do anything.

1527
01:17:41,027 --> 01:17:43,307
Speaker 10: It's whether or not Melbourne let him do anything is

1528
01:17:43,347 --> 01:17:43,827
Speaker 10: another thing.

1529
01:17:44,107 --> 01:17:46,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we're certainly keeping eyes on it over the

1530
01:17:46,307 --> 01:17:47,747
Speaker 2: side of the Tasman as well, but a key we

1531
01:17:47,827 --> 01:17:51,267
Speaker 2: interest to and in the climax to the NRL season,

1532
01:17:51,547 --> 01:17:54,267
Speaker 2: let's go to the UK and Pasta Cooglu is in

1533
01:17:54,387 --> 01:17:57,427
Speaker 2: charge of Nottingham Forest are six games there without a win,

1534
01:17:58,027 --> 01:18:00,267
Speaker 2: already starting to come under some pressure I'm trying to

1535
01:18:00,307 --> 01:18:03,467
Speaker 2: find where they get their win. Their win from Newcastle tonight,

1536
01:18:03,467 --> 01:18:06,907
Speaker 2: which of course you don't want them to win four

1537
01:18:06,947 --> 01:18:10,827
Speaker 2: nil exactly, then Chelsea Porto and the Europa League, then

1538
01:18:10,907 --> 01:18:13,507
Speaker 2: born with her was Sex and then Manchester United. Maybe

1539
01:18:13,547 --> 01:18:15,667
Speaker 2: it comes against man You I don't know what's going

1540
01:18:15,707 --> 01:18:16,147
Speaker 2: on over there.

1541
01:18:16,427 --> 01:18:19,027
Speaker 10: Well, if he's still there. I read a report late

1542
01:18:19,107 --> 01:18:22,107
Speaker 10: last night which kind of concerned me a bit. I

1543
01:18:22,467 --> 01:18:25,067
Speaker 10: thought he'd be given a bit of time and you know, okay,

1544
01:18:25,547 --> 01:18:28,627
Speaker 10: you've got plenty of time to rectify it and not

1545
01:18:28,987 --> 01:18:32,747
Speaker 10: get relegated all those things. But reports were saying, oh,

1546
01:18:32,987 --> 01:18:35,987
Speaker 10: well the owner might be losing patience and those report

1547
01:18:36,067 --> 01:18:38,027
Speaker 10: and it's in the Times as well that those reports

1548
01:18:38,027 --> 01:18:40,667
Speaker 10: don't come out of nugly so someone's heard something and

1549
01:18:40,987 --> 01:18:44,947
Speaker 10: that's concerning. I hope he's given until at least the

1550
01:18:45,027 --> 01:18:48,187
Speaker 10: next international break, the November one. There's one coming up

1551
01:18:48,227 --> 01:18:51,547
Speaker 10: after this game against Newcast So look, it's not worked

1552
01:18:51,587 --> 01:18:53,187
Speaker 10: the way that everyone thought it was going to work.

1553
01:18:53,227 --> 01:18:55,507
Speaker 10: And I'm not sure what Ange Postagog told the owner

1554
01:18:55,587 --> 01:18:58,427
Speaker 10: mari An artists in the meetings, but I dare say

1555
01:18:58,467 --> 01:19:01,147
Speaker 10: it's removed from what we've seen so far in terms

1556
01:19:01,187 --> 01:19:05,027
Speaker 10: of how it's going to play out. So yeah, it's

1557
01:19:05,147 --> 01:19:06,947
Speaker 10: verging on being on on an I I don't think

1558
01:19:06,947 --> 01:19:09,947
Speaker 10: he's there yet, but yeah, a couple of more bad results,

1559
01:19:09,987 --> 01:19:12,147
Speaker 10: as you mentioned e side the international broake and it

1560
01:19:12,227 --> 01:19:12,947
Speaker 10: could be problems.

1561
01:19:13,347 --> 01:19:15,827
Speaker 2: All right, just speaking of international football, you're under twenties

1562
01:19:15,947 --> 01:19:19,267
Speaker 2: are at the World Cup, as are ours losses for Australia.

1563
01:19:19,427 --> 01:19:21,707
Speaker 2: It's only in Argentina. Man, that's a tough group. How

1564
01:19:21,867 --> 01:19:26,107
Speaker 2: they look though the under twenties the next way, they're.

1565
01:19:25,987 --> 01:19:30,667
Speaker 10: Okay, they're not world beaters. I don't think. Yeah, I

1566
01:19:30,707 --> 01:19:33,627
Speaker 10: don't think there's any forty million dollar players in there.

1567
01:19:33,747 --> 01:19:37,627
Speaker 10: But they're a good group and hopefully they can manufacture

1568
01:19:37,627 --> 01:19:40,027
Speaker 10: a miracle that got their last game against Cuba to

1569
01:19:40,107 --> 01:19:40,867
Speaker 10: get out of the group.

1570
01:19:40,907 --> 01:19:41,987
Speaker 7: But it's a good experience.

1571
01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:44,627
Speaker 10: I mean that game against Argentina, they were in it,

1572
01:19:44,787 --> 01:19:49,467
Speaker 10: but you always felt like Argentina had that class about

1573
01:19:49,507 --> 01:19:52,027
Speaker 10: them that was going to prove definitive, and so it did.

1574
01:19:52,227 --> 01:19:56,307
Speaker 10: Later on they scored two great goals at a time

1575
01:19:56,347 --> 01:19:59,907
Speaker 10: to make a two one result full one. So yeah,

1576
01:20:00,107 --> 01:20:03,307
Speaker 10: they're not far off. But yeah, it's just that, and

1577
01:20:03,387 --> 01:20:05,267
Speaker 10: then it makes you think of all the bigger, bigger

1578
01:20:05,307 --> 01:20:09,587
Speaker 10: things in Australia football about what's going on, and yeah,

1579
01:20:09,867 --> 01:20:12,747
Speaker 10: it's I don't know where it leads with things like

1580
01:20:12,787 --> 01:20:15,867
Speaker 10: the A leagu has been twenty six games and coaching

1581
01:20:16,267 --> 01:20:19,827
Speaker 10: coughing my leg over here, I'll go into a pioneer.

1582
01:20:19,827 --> 01:20:23,027
Speaker 10: I'm not sure. If you've got the time, you've probably done. Yeah,

1583
01:20:23,147 --> 01:20:24,427
Speaker 10: we'll see how it pans out.

1584
01:20:24,747 --> 01:20:27,307
Speaker 2: Just on actually, just on the senior side soccer, who's

1585
01:20:27,307 --> 01:20:30,107
Speaker 2: they've a squad's been announced to play upcoming games against

1586
01:20:30,147 --> 01:20:32,387
Speaker 2: Canada and the United States. I was happy to see

1587
01:20:32,427 --> 01:20:36,227
Speaker 2: Cam Devlon, their former former Phoenix player, of course doing

1588
01:20:36,267 --> 01:20:40,147
Speaker 2: well in Scotland. Gee, Tony Popovich seems to be giving

1589
01:20:40,227 --> 01:20:41,947
Speaker 2: a lot of blokes ago, doesn't he as he looks

1590
01:20:41,987 --> 01:20:42,987
Speaker 2: for his World Cup squad.

1591
01:20:43,467 --> 01:20:45,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's what it's about, and it should

1592
01:20:45,307 --> 01:20:48,147
Speaker 10: be about because you may as well utilize the fact

1593
01:20:48,147 --> 01:20:50,267
Speaker 10: that you've qualified twelve month in exance the first time

1594
01:20:50,267 --> 01:20:52,267
Speaker 10: I was done it in a while. So it's mixed

1595
01:20:52,267 --> 01:20:54,787
Speaker 10: it up and see who's who going to zoo And yeah,

1596
01:20:54,787 --> 01:20:57,107
Speaker 10: I think there's eight or nine changes from the last squad,

1597
01:20:57,907 --> 01:20:59,987
Speaker 10: which makes people scratch their head a bit. But no,

1598
01:21:00,107 --> 01:21:03,387
Speaker 10: it's all about you know, seeing and Tony Popovich, as

1599
01:21:03,427 --> 01:21:06,427
Speaker 10: you know, is a man big about behaviors on and

1600
01:21:06,547 --> 01:21:08,307
Speaker 10: off the pitch, so he wants to get to know

1601
01:21:08,467 --> 01:21:11,627
Speaker 10: him a bit better in camp and their tendencies and everything.

1602
01:21:11,707 --> 01:21:14,507
Speaker 10: So yeah, we'll say it pans out against Canada and

1603
01:21:14,547 --> 01:21:17,107
Speaker 10: the US through football on of course, and tonight we've

1604
01:21:17,107 --> 01:21:18,747
Speaker 10: got the Australia Cup. It's on a bit later over

1605
01:21:18,787 --> 01:21:22,387
Speaker 10: there for you guys that Newcastle get playing. Heidelberg's on

1606
01:21:22,547 --> 01:21:26,747
Speaker 10: MPL side, making the making the final and it's nearly

1607
01:21:26,787 --> 01:21:28,507
Speaker 10: a full house down there at Melbourne twy so.

1608
01:21:28,547 --> 01:21:30,667
Speaker 2: It should be a great night, good stuff, big weekend

1609
01:21:30,747 --> 01:21:33,107
Speaker 2: as they always seem to be on your side of

1610
01:21:33,107 --> 01:21:35,347
Speaker 2: the ditch. Thanks for updating his Adam. We'll chat again

1611
01:21:35,387 --> 01:21:36,267
Speaker 2: next Saturday, same time.

1612
01:21:36,627 --> 01:21:38,267
Speaker 10: Thanks Bunny tees mate, Thanks.

1613
01:21:38,067 --> 01:21:40,507
Speaker 2: Mate, Adam Peacock, our Ossie correspondent seven to two News

1614
01:21:40,547 --> 01:21:42,427
Speaker 2: Talk Zippy three and a half to two. New Zealand

1615
01:21:42,467 --> 01:21:44,587
Speaker 2: have lost three mil to Japan at the FIFA Under

1616
01:21:44,587 --> 01:21:46,307
Speaker 2: twenty World Cup. They wait now to see if they

1617
01:21:46,347 --> 01:21:47,987
Speaker 2: go through to the knockout rounds as one of the

1618
01:21:48,107 --> 01:21:51,627
Speaker 2: best third place teams and the FARA Palmer Cup Final.

1619
01:21:51,747 --> 01:21:54,667
Speaker 2: Canterbury Leed White Cuto eight to five after half an

1620
01:21:54,707 --> 01:21:58,307
Speaker 2: hour gone at FMG Stadium in Hamilton. News next to

1621
01:21:58,387 --> 01:22:01,347
Speaker 2: two and then Sean Marks on Weekend Sport.

1622
01:22:02,827 --> 01:22:07,267
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on Afterfields.

1623
01:22:07,747 --> 01:22:11,107
Speaker 1: It's all on Wee Jen Sport with Jason Vade on

1624
01:22:11,267 --> 01:22:14,267
Speaker 1: your Home of Sport US talks.

1625
01:22:15,547 --> 01:22:18,227
Speaker 2: Hello there too, seven, I'm Jason Pine. This is Weekend's

1626
01:22:18,347 --> 01:22:22,987
Speaker 2: Sport until three. Then Tim Beveridge takes over Weekend Collector

1627
01:22:23,267 --> 01:22:26,267
Speaker 2: Saturday Edition. Lots to get through between now and then

1628
01:22:26,387 --> 01:22:27,747
Speaker 2: a lot of live sport to keep an eye on.

1629
01:22:28,027 --> 01:22:32,027
Speaker 2: Farah Palmer Cup Final nearly halftime in Hamilton, WAYCUTO twelve,

1630
01:22:32,267 --> 01:22:36,627
Speaker 2: Canterbury eight. As we approach halftime there there are a

1631
01:22:36,707 --> 01:22:39,787
Speaker 2: couple of NPC matches about to get under way. Auckland

1632
01:22:39,787 --> 01:22:43,627
Speaker 2: against Otago at Auckland Grammar School, Wellington against Bay of

1633
01:22:43,707 --> 01:22:47,387
Speaker 2: Plenty at Jerry Collins Stadium in Potty Duafin. Butcher is

1634
01:22:47,827 --> 01:22:51,827
Speaker 2: in action at the Canoe Slalom World Champs in Sydney.

1635
01:22:51,867 --> 01:22:53,707
Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date with his progress in

1636
01:22:53,827 --> 01:22:56,907
Speaker 2: his favored kayak cross event. And as you heard one

1637
01:22:56,987 --> 01:22:59,547
Speaker 2: O saying the news The New Zealand under twenty men's

1638
01:22:59,547 --> 01:23:03,227
Speaker 2: football side have been eliminated from their World Cup in Chile.

1639
01:23:03,627 --> 01:23:07,267
Speaker 2: A three nail loss to Japan has seen them bottom

1640
01:23:07,307 --> 01:23:09,347
Speaker 2: of the group, although level on points with the teams

1641
01:23:09,347 --> 01:23:12,707
Speaker 2: that finished second and third. Egypt was second, Chile third,

1642
01:23:12,787 --> 01:23:18,107
Speaker 2: New Zealand fourth. Unfortunately, the inferior goal difference that New

1643
01:23:18,187 --> 01:23:22,307
Speaker 2: Zealand have chalked up has seen them eliminated from contention

1644
01:23:22,427 --> 01:23:25,427
Speaker 2: for the knockout rounds. It's a shame sewn. Mark's shortly

1645
01:23:25,787 --> 01:23:28,667
Speaker 2: our well, one of our greatest basketball players. Maybe our

1646
01:23:29,907 --> 01:23:32,227
Speaker 2: must say our best. Certainly in the top two or three,

1647
01:23:32,307 --> 01:23:35,467
Speaker 2: wouldn't he? And now general manager of the Brooklyn Nets

1648
01:23:35,507 --> 01:23:37,347
Speaker 2: in the NBA. How's he feeling ahead of the new season.

1649
01:23:37,507 --> 01:23:39,267
Speaker 2: He's been there ten years now, Shawn Mark, so he's

1650
01:23:39,267 --> 01:23:41,587
Speaker 2: built up a pretty good body of work. Asked him

1651
01:23:41,627 --> 01:23:45,147
Speaker 2: as well about the tall Blacks and the young stars

1652
01:23:45,307 --> 01:23:46,947
Speaker 2: rising in both the men's and women's game.

1653
01:23:47,187 --> 01:23:47,387
Speaker 19: Here.

1654
01:23:48,427 --> 01:23:50,827
Speaker 2: Speaking of stars, we'll talk to one this hour out

1655
01:23:50,867 --> 01:23:53,347
Speaker 2: of the Warriors. Aaron Clark was named in the dally

1656
01:23:53,507 --> 01:23:56,187
Speaker 2: M Team of the Year this week as Lock of

1657
01:23:56,387 --> 01:24:00,147
Speaker 2: the Year. How's he reflecting on his season when he

1658
01:24:00,267 --> 01:24:01,987
Speaker 2: came I remember when I spoke to him, I think

1659
01:24:01,987 --> 01:24:03,787
Speaker 2: pre season, and he said, look, I just want to

1660
01:24:03,787 --> 01:24:05,187
Speaker 2: play my part. I want to play a few minutes

1661
01:24:05,187 --> 01:24:06,787
Speaker 2: off the bench here and there if we get a

1662
01:24:06,787 --> 01:24:09,107
Speaker 2: few first great appearances. He played in every single game

1663
01:24:09,467 --> 01:24:12,147
Speaker 2: and started all but one of them and one lock

1664
01:24:12,227 --> 01:24:14,747
Speaker 2: of the year. So Aaron Clark is with us this

1665
01:24:14,907 --> 01:24:17,227
Speaker 2: hour and Rob Walter, black Caps coach, going to join us.

1666
01:24:17,587 --> 01:24:20,587
Speaker 2: But the sounds of it, the weather's okay in the Mounts,

1667
01:24:20,627 --> 01:24:23,747
Speaker 2: so we should get some form of cricket tonight. Maybe

1668
01:24:23,867 --> 01:24:27,107
Speaker 2: not an entire forty overs, but some cricket. We've got

1669
01:24:27,187 --> 01:24:30,627
Speaker 2: thirteen deliveries last night. Rob Walter, though more, I want

1670
01:24:30,667 --> 01:24:32,467
Speaker 2: to deject to more about how he's finding the role

1671
01:24:32,587 --> 01:24:35,267
Speaker 2: four months into it, having taken over from Gary Stead.

1672
01:24:35,587 --> 01:24:37,707
Speaker 2: How's he finding it? So Robalter is going to join us,

1673
01:24:37,747 --> 01:24:41,267
Speaker 2: and we'll give you the chance to play a sporting

1674
01:24:41,467 --> 01:24:43,827
Speaker 2: chance with a tab one hundred and fifty dollars bonus

1675
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Speaker 2: bet which you can have a punt with and the

1676
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1677
01:24:50,267 --> 01:24:53,227
Speaker 2: get the winnings. So we'll play that this hour as well.

1678
01:24:53,387 --> 01:24:55,707
Speaker 2: So lots to get through. Let's not mess about too

1679
01:24:55,787 --> 01:24:58,707
Speaker 2: much longer. The music means that it's time to catch

1680
01:24:58,787 --> 01:25:00,867
Speaker 2: you up with the things that may have escaped your

1681
01:25:00,907 --> 01:25:04,867
Speaker 2: attention over the last twenty four hours or so. In

1682
01:25:05,067 --> 01:25:07,067
Speaker 2: case she missed it, here on News Talks head Beat,

1683
01:25:08,347 --> 01:25:12,827
Speaker 2: starting with another World Para Athletics Championship gold medal for

1684
01:25:13,027 --> 01:25:17,547
Speaker 2: Kiwi sprinter Danielle Hison. She has smashed her own world

1685
01:25:17,667 --> 01:25:20,867
Speaker 2: record to win the woman's T thirty six two hundred

1686
01:25:20,947 --> 01:25:24,547
Speaker 2: meters title for a third straight year. Agents, it's gonna

1687
01:25:24,587 --> 01:25:28,747
Speaker 2: be fast. World record's gone level and second burns on

1688
01:25:28,907 --> 01:25:32,547
Speaker 2: gast the bronze, but Daniel agents and takes the gold again.

1689
01:25:32,947 --> 01:25:36,147
Speaker 2: Fantastic from Danielle Hison. An opening day to forget, though,

1690
01:25:36,187 --> 01:25:39,107
Speaker 2: for Liam Lawson at Formula one's Singapore Grand Prix.

1691
01:25:39,387 --> 01:25:42,347
Speaker 18: Is it the wool Liam Lawson that is going to

1692
01:25:43,267 --> 01:25:47,867
Speaker 18: see the racing ball lip home and might cause another

1693
01:25:48,067 --> 01:25:51,507
Speaker 18: red flag because the tire is still wheeling its way down.

1694
01:25:51,427 --> 01:25:53,387
Speaker 17: The track and is right outside our cometry box.

1695
01:25:53,467 --> 01:25:55,347
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed it did. The Kiwi driver heading the wall

1696
01:25:55,467 --> 01:25:58,787
Speaker 2: during the second practice session, triggering a red flag at

1697
01:25:58,827 --> 01:26:03,027
Speaker 2: the Marina Bay Street circuit qualifying though, is tonight back

1698
01:26:03,067 --> 01:26:07,627
Speaker 2: home North Harbor have avoided a winless n piece rugby season.

1699
01:26:07,547 --> 01:26:10,267
Speaker 18: In field path to playing a Nuku, playing a nuku

1700
01:26:10,347 --> 01:26:11,187
Speaker 18: doing guinny Guinea.

1701
01:26:11,307 --> 01:26:13,387
Speaker 1: Who's gonna starred?

1702
01:26:13,707 --> 01:26:14,027
Speaker 14: North?

1703
01:26:14,147 --> 01:26:14,587
Speaker 5: Have them?

1704
01:26:15,027 --> 01:26:17,307
Speaker 6: Where did you find that they are?

1705
01:26:17,387 --> 01:26:17,627
Speaker 14: Over?

1706
01:26:18,427 --> 01:26:21,747
Speaker 2: For their second five pointer of the ninth fifteen fourteen

1707
01:26:21,867 --> 01:26:25,587
Speaker 2: the final score over Southland at Albany Born with meantime

1708
01:26:25,707 --> 01:26:28,387
Speaker 2: up to the giddy heights of second on the Premier

1709
01:26:28,467 --> 01:26:31,107
Speaker 2: League Football Ladder, coming from one nil down to beat

1710
01:26:31,147 --> 01:26:34,867
Speaker 2: Fulham three one this morning coast, gunning toach. Nobody up

1711
01:26:34,907 --> 01:26:38,547
Speaker 2: with him at the moments, gunnintoach. Here they come Samanio

1712
01:26:39,507 --> 01:26:43,107
Speaker 2: to finish it. The cherry's high in the Trennial League

1713
01:26:43,147 --> 01:26:46,467
Speaker 2: Tree tonight to the Women's Cricket World Cup, England bowled

1714
01:26:46,587 --> 01:26:50,227
Speaker 2: South Africa out for sixty nine inside twenty one overs

1715
01:26:50,267 --> 01:26:52,907
Speaker 2: and then chase that target down in the fifteenth without

1716
01:26:52,987 --> 01:26:57,227
Speaker 2: losing a wicket right tickled away to the boundary. And

1717
01:26:57,507 --> 01:27:01,147
Speaker 2: that is a comfortable win for England, a win by

1718
01:27:01,267 --> 01:27:05,147
Speaker 2: ten wickets and plenty of overs in hand. But Now'mnginui's

1719
01:27:05,187 --> 01:27:08,787
Speaker 2: reign has scuppered the blas chances of reclaiming crickets Chapel

1720
01:27:08,867 --> 01:27:13,187
Speaker 2: Hadley Trophy. Last night second T twenty against Australia eventually

1721
01:27:13,267 --> 01:27:16,187
Speaker 2: reduced to a nine over match, but just two point

1722
01:27:16,307 --> 01:27:20,027
Speaker 2: one overs were possible before rain came and washed the

1723
01:27:20,107 --> 01:27:22,347
Speaker 2: whole thing out. At least Jacob Duffy picked up a

1724
01:27:22,387 --> 01:27:26,747
Speaker 2: wicket though cloth daway and does that carry. It's a

1725
01:27:26,787 --> 01:27:27,587
Speaker 2: great catch.

1726
01:27:27,507 --> 01:27:31,107
Speaker 4: Diving forward dev and Conroy with the safe hands.

1727
01:27:30,827 --> 01:27:31,987
Speaker 2: And Jacob Duffy beck.

1728
01:27:31,907 --> 01:27:35,547
Speaker 1: In the wickets loose Voice of Sport on your Home

1729
01:27:35,627 --> 01:27:39,987
Speaker 1: of Sports Weekends Forward with Jason Vane, News TALKSB.

1730
01:27:39,947 --> 01:27:43,147
Speaker 2: News TALKSB and Weekend Sport twelve minutes past two. What

1731
01:27:43,267 --> 01:27:45,227
Speaker 2: a pleasure to welcome in one of our best ever

1732
01:27:45,347 --> 01:27:49,947
Speaker 2: basketballers and now one of the world's foremost sporting executives.

1733
01:27:50,227 --> 01:27:52,387
Speaker 2: He was the first New Zealand born player to play

1734
01:27:52,387 --> 01:27:55,467
Speaker 2: in the NBA and had time with the Toronto Raptors,

1735
01:27:55,507 --> 01:27:59,467
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat, the San Antonio Spurs, Phoenix Suns, New

1736
01:27:59,587 --> 01:28:04,067
Speaker 2: Orleans Hornets and Portland Trailblazers. He won the NBA Championship

1737
01:28:04,147 --> 01:28:06,827
Speaker 2: as a player with San Antonio in two two thousand

1738
01:28:06,827 --> 01:28:10,907
Speaker 2: and five, and then as an assistant coach in twenty fourteen.

1739
01:28:11,027 --> 01:28:14,067
Speaker 2: He played thirty three times for the Tall Blacks, went

1740
01:28:14,147 --> 01:28:17,427
Speaker 2: to two Olympic games, and was an integral part of

1741
01:28:17,467 --> 01:28:20,347
Speaker 2: the New Zealand team that finished fourth at the two

1742
01:28:20,427 --> 01:28:25,107
Speaker 2: thousand and two Feber World Championship. Since twenty sixteen, he

1743
01:28:25,267 --> 01:28:28,507
Speaker 2: has been general manager of the Brooklyn Nets in the NBA.

1744
01:28:28,707 --> 01:28:31,627
Speaker 2: Who else, of course, but Sean Marks. Welcome in, Shawn,

1745
01:28:31,707 --> 01:28:33,907
Speaker 2: and thank you for joining us across New Zealand this afternoon.

1746
01:28:34,467 --> 01:28:36,267
Speaker 3: Pleasure great to talk, Thanks, Jason.

1747
01:28:36,547 --> 01:28:38,707
Speaker 2: Let's start with the upcoming season for the Brooklyn Nets.

1748
01:28:38,707 --> 01:28:41,227
Speaker 2: You brought in five rookies in the draft. You already

1749
01:28:41,267 --> 01:28:44,027
Speaker 2: had a young roster, it's probably the youngest in the NBA.

1750
01:28:44,547 --> 01:28:47,347
Speaker 2: How do you balance success with development?

1751
01:28:48,707 --> 01:28:49,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's a great one.

1752
01:28:49,907 --> 01:28:52,467
Speaker 17: I think we have to categorize success for us as

1753
01:28:52,507 --> 01:28:55,907
Speaker 17: going to be how these young guys develop over the

1754
01:28:55,947 --> 01:28:57,907
Speaker 17: course of the year. I mean, we're developing young men

1755
01:28:57,987 --> 01:29:00,547
Speaker 17: both on and off the court. When you have four nineteen.

1756
01:29:00,267 --> 01:29:04,147
Speaker 3: Year olds at the draft now on your roster, that's

1757
01:29:04,227 --> 01:29:04,867
Speaker 3: exciting to me.

1758
01:29:04,987 --> 01:29:06,987
Speaker 17: When you sort of trying to predict what are they

1759
01:29:06,987 --> 01:29:09,067
Speaker 17: going to look like in a year, two, three years

1760
01:29:09,147 --> 01:29:11,227
Speaker 17: down the road here and what are you putting around

1761
01:29:11,267 --> 01:29:14,907
Speaker 17: them for them to have success both individually and at

1762
01:29:14,947 --> 01:29:17,547
Speaker 17: that point, that's where team success comes as well.

1763
01:29:17,707 --> 01:29:20,427
Speaker 3: So for us, I don't know that we're going to

1764
01:29:20,467 --> 01:29:23,787
Speaker 3: be overly wrapped up in the wins and the losses

1765
01:29:23,827 --> 01:29:24,427
Speaker 3: in the record.

1766
01:29:24,507 --> 01:29:27,987
Speaker 17: I mean that's going to be what it is, and

1767
01:29:28,187 --> 01:29:30,107
Speaker 17: hopefully we can prove a lot of people wrong and

1768
01:29:30,227 --> 01:29:32,467
Speaker 17: where the pundits have us picked. But at the same time,

1769
01:29:33,707 --> 01:29:36,467
Speaker 17: having patients and looking down the road at how these

1770
01:29:36,547 --> 01:29:38,787
Speaker 17: young young Menigan develop over the next two or three

1771
01:29:38,827 --> 01:29:41,707
Speaker 17: years is going to be really important for the franchise.

1772
01:29:41,267 --> 01:29:41,667
Speaker 3: As a whole.

1773
01:29:41,987 --> 01:29:44,907
Speaker 2: Your head coach, Jordy Finnandez is regarded as one of

1774
01:29:44,987 --> 01:29:48,827
Speaker 2: the best talent nurturers in the NBA, So how can

1775
01:29:48,867 --> 01:29:51,507
Speaker 2: you best support him as you as you go through

1776
01:29:51,587 --> 01:29:52,467
Speaker 2: this period.

1777
01:29:53,627 --> 01:29:55,627
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, I think both of us need to have

1778
01:29:55,867 --> 01:29:57,947
Speaker 17: the same vision for like, how are we going to

1779
01:29:57,987 --> 01:30:00,747
Speaker 17: do this? I mean, Jordie's incredibly competitive. I think the

1780
01:30:00,787 --> 01:30:03,227
Speaker 17: sweat equity of the coaching staff for second to none.

1781
01:30:04,187 --> 01:30:06,227
Speaker 3: The development is proven over the last year.

1782
01:30:07,227 --> 01:30:09,947
Speaker 17: It's certainly an exciting time and a great opportunity for

1783
01:30:10,707 --> 01:30:14,067
Speaker 17: him to showcase continue to showcase the development of him

1784
01:30:14,107 --> 01:30:16,267
Speaker 17: and his coaching starts, but for him to try and

1785
01:30:16,307 --> 01:30:18,827
Speaker 17: continue to put our players in places to have success.

1786
01:30:19,107 --> 01:30:22,347
Speaker 17: Right and to support him and realize, like, look, you know,

1787
01:30:22,947 --> 01:30:26,707
Speaker 17: we're building this and it's the goal of us of

1788
01:30:26,827 --> 01:30:29,387
Speaker 17: the Nets franchise is to have sustainable success.

1789
01:30:29,467 --> 01:30:30,347
Speaker 3: So that's what we want to do.

1790
01:30:30,467 --> 01:30:35,387
Speaker 17: We don't want to no knee jerk reactions to how

1791
01:30:35,427 --> 01:30:38,147
Speaker 17: do we win a couple more games than we maybe

1792
01:30:38,227 --> 01:30:40,987
Speaker 17: should have, but it comes at the detriment of long

1793
01:30:41,107 --> 01:30:41,947
Speaker 17: term success here.

1794
01:30:42,027 --> 01:30:43,947
Speaker 3: So we do have to have a bit of patience.

1795
01:30:43,987 --> 01:30:45,707
Speaker 17: But at the same time, it's exciting to go out

1796
01:30:45,747 --> 01:30:47,387
Speaker 17: there and hopefully prove some people wrong.

1797
01:30:47,707 --> 01:30:50,027
Speaker 2: Do you have a patient ownership group, and I guess

1798
01:30:50,067 --> 01:30:51,827
Speaker 2: as importantly a patient fan base.

1799
01:30:53,187 --> 01:30:56,787
Speaker 17: Well, I think from an ownership standpoint, Joe si is

1800
01:30:56,987 --> 01:31:01,347
Speaker 17: privy to every conversation and every deal and the trajectory

1801
01:31:01,387 --> 01:31:04,707
Speaker 17: of the team. He knows exactly what the objective here

1802
01:31:04,787 --> 01:31:05,227
Speaker 17: and how.

1803
01:31:05,147 --> 01:31:05,827
Speaker 3: We're going to do it.

1804
01:31:06,347 --> 01:31:09,187
Speaker 17: You know, I think being in our fan base in

1805
01:31:09,347 --> 01:31:11,947
Speaker 17: New York specifically, you know, I would not say that

1806
01:31:12,067 --> 01:31:13,627
Speaker 17: they're exactly.

1807
01:31:13,307 --> 01:31:15,267
Speaker 3: Patient, But I don't think any fans are patient.

1808
01:31:15,267 --> 01:31:17,427
Speaker 17: I mean, I think they want to see they want

1809
01:31:17,467 --> 01:31:19,747
Speaker 17: to see a team making the right strides. They want

1810
01:31:19,787 --> 01:31:21,347
Speaker 17: to be able to get behind a team playing the

1811
01:31:21,467 --> 01:31:23,507
Speaker 17: right brand of basketball, and I think that's what they're

1812
01:31:23,507 --> 01:31:24,347
Speaker 17: going to see with the Nets.

1813
01:31:24,387 --> 01:31:26,387
Speaker 3: These guys are scrappy, they play.

1814
01:31:26,307 --> 01:31:29,747
Speaker 17: Hard, they exhibit that Brooklyn grit, which is what we

1815
01:31:29,867 --> 01:31:32,187
Speaker 17: talk about here, and if they're playing the right way,

1816
01:31:32,907 --> 01:31:35,587
Speaker 17: and I think our fan base can see okay, like

1817
01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:37,987
Speaker 17: I can see a few a couple of future Nets

1818
01:31:38,507 --> 01:31:40,987
Speaker 17: on this roster, and I can see them building. I

1819
01:31:41,067 --> 01:31:43,427
Speaker 17: think that our fan base will get behind us. And

1820
01:31:43,507 --> 01:31:47,787
Speaker 17: they've been incredibly great thus far, for not only myself,

1821
01:31:47,827 --> 01:31:49,747
Speaker 17: but for the entire team, in the entire organization.

1822
01:31:50,187 --> 01:31:53,187
Speaker 2: So you've settled now on a draft and develop strategy

1823
01:31:53,387 --> 01:31:58,067
Speaker 2: as opposed to a superstar acquisition philosophy.

1824
01:31:58,787 --> 01:32:02,227
Speaker 17: Well, I think you have to keep all your avenues

1825
01:32:02,827 --> 01:32:05,227
Speaker 17: wide open because you never know what's going to happen,

1826
01:32:05,507 --> 01:32:06,987
Speaker 17: you know. I mean, I don't want to predict that

1827
01:32:07,187 --> 01:32:09,107
Speaker 17: this is how it's going to play out, and it's

1828
01:32:09,147 --> 01:32:11,707
Speaker 17: going to be a long build because I you know,

1829
01:32:12,147 --> 01:32:15,747
Speaker 17: I'm patient and I want to build patiently, but I

1830
01:32:15,787 --> 01:32:17,467
Speaker 17: want to build with the right players, and you never

1831
01:32:17,587 --> 01:32:19,507
Speaker 17: know when those right players are going to come about.

1832
01:32:19,587 --> 01:32:22,787
Speaker 17: I mean, players can develop sooner and quicker than you

1833
01:32:22,867 --> 01:32:25,147
Speaker 17: may have expected. But you can also you know, certain

1834
01:32:25,187 --> 01:32:30,667
Speaker 17: trades come along quicker and maybe unforeseen at this particular juncture.

1835
01:32:30,787 --> 01:32:33,027
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't want to predict that we're going to

1836
01:32:33,107 --> 01:32:33,907
Speaker 3: do a certain thing.

1837
01:32:34,147 --> 01:32:36,067
Speaker 17: And then I think the best thing we can do

1838
01:32:36,227 --> 01:32:39,587
Speaker 17: is prepare for everything, but prepare that ultimately we want

1839
01:32:39,587 --> 01:32:43,107
Speaker 17: to have sustainable success and ultimately we want to be competing.

1840
01:32:44,507 --> 01:32:47,907
Speaker 2: You know in this in this market, you've been at

1841
01:32:47,907 --> 01:32:50,307
Speaker 2: the nets for nearly a decade now. During your time day,

1842
01:32:50,347 --> 01:32:53,107
Speaker 2: you've dealt with some of the biggest names in the sport,

1843
01:32:53,227 --> 01:32:56,747
Speaker 2: the likes of Karov and Kevin Durant, James Harden. How

1844
01:32:56,827 --> 01:32:59,187
Speaker 2: do you deal seoran with such big stars.

1845
01:33:01,067 --> 01:33:04,187
Speaker 17: Well, I think with everybody, it's about being honest and transparent.

1846
01:33:04,267 --> 01:33:05,867
Speaker 17: I think if you can sit there and have an

1847
01:33:05,907 --> 01:33:08,307
Speaker 17: honest conversation with guys is like how we're trying to

1848
01:33:08,347 --> 01:33:11,027
Speaker 17: do things. I don't think anybody wants surprises. I don't

1849
01:33:11,067 --> 01:33:13,187
Speaker 17: like to be surprised, and I don't think big stars

1850
01:33:13,307 --> 01:33:15,267
Speaker 17: like to be surprised. And I think when you're talking

1851
01:33:15,307 --> 01:33:18,867
Speaker 17: about guys like you just did, you know, they're the

1852
01:33:18,947 --> 01:33:23,027
Speaker 17: ones that you know their legacy is at stay at stake.

1853
01:33:23,147 --> 01:33:25,427
Speaker 17: They want to win and they want to win now, right,

1854
01:33:25,547 --> 01:33:27,507
Speaker 17: and I think that was the timeline of what we

1855
01:33:27,627 --> 01:33:29,547
Speaker 17: were on there, and we did everything we possibly could

1856
01:33:30,027 --> 01:33:30,627
Speaker 17: to put out.

1857
01:33:30,547 --> 01:33:32,947
Speaker 3: A team and a roster that was capable of doing

1858
01:33:33,107 --> 01:33:33,307
Speaker 3: just that.

1859
01:33:33,907 --> 01:33:37,307
Speaker 17: You know, our focus right now is on developing these

1860
01:33:37,387 --> 01:33:39,987
Speaker 17: young men that we have right here, and that's just

1861
01:33:40,107 --> 01:33:44,507
Speaker 17: as exciting. I mean, perhaps some different expectations, but the

1862
01:33:44,627 --> 01:33:46,587
Speaker 17: goal here is to build them up to where this

1863
01:33:46,907 --> 01:33:48,627
Speaker 17: this burrow and this market.

1864
01:33:48,427 --> 01:33:51,827
Speaker 3: Is excited to watch the next iteration of the nets.

1865
01:33:52,547 --> 01:33:54,707
Speaker 2: Sean, have you been able to get the same buzz

1866
01:33:55,107 --> 01:33:59,067
Speaker 2: from coaching and now general management as you did as

1867
01:33:59,107 --> 01:34:00,147
Speaker 2: a basketball player?

1868
01:34:01,987 --> 01:34:02,667
Speaker 3: Great question.

1869
01:34:02,947 --> 01:34:05,547
Speaker 17: I think it comes at different times in your life.

1870
01:34:05,827 --> 01:34:09,387
Speaker 17: And you know, at now fifty years old, I would

1871
01:34:09,467 --> 01:34:12,827
Speaker 17: not be getting the same buzz out of playing. I

1872
01:34:12,827 --> 01:34:15,467
Speaker 17: would be I'd be getting hurt. So that's that's not

1873
01:34:15,627 --> 01:34:17,987
Speaker 17: what That's not what I would want to do. But look,

1874
01:34:18,067 --> 01:34:22,067
Speaker 17: I loved I love competition. I think we're a fiercely

1875
01:34:22,147 --> 01:34:23,227
Speaker 17: competitive group.

1876
01:34:23,067 --> 01:34:25,947
Speaker 3: Here as that fits you know, Jordy and I well,

1877
01:34:27,347 --> 01:34:28,707
Speaker 3: you know, so you want to have that.

1878
01:34:28,787 --> 01:34:33,387
Speaker 17: Competitive spirit, whether you're playing, whether you're coaching, whether you're

1879
01:34:33,427 --> 01:34:35,947
Speaker 17: in the front office, and you want all groups to

1880
01:34:36,107 --> 01:34:39,507
Speaker 17: feel like we're all in sync together. There's nothing worse

1881
01:34:39,587 --> 01:34:42,467
Speaker 17: than feeling like you're in a silo and it's it's

1882
01:34:42,587 --> 01:34:43,587
Speaker 17: one versus or not.

1883
01:34:43,867 --> 01:34:46,707
Speaker 3: I think we need to be in aligned with ownership.

1884
01:34:46,787 --> 01:34:48,067
Speaker 17: We need to be aligned with how we're going to

1885
01:34:48,107 --> 01:34:50,707
Speaker 17: build this thing and and play the right way, the

1886
01:34:50,827 --> 01:34:53,027
Speaker 17: right system, with the right cost of characters.

1887
01:34:53,267 --> 01:34:55,347
Speaker 2: And amongst all the basketball that you played. And it

1888
01:34:55,507 --> 01:34:59,147
Speaker 2: is a glittering CV. Where does the Tall Blacks fourth

1889
01:34:59,187 --> 01:35:02,147
Speaker 2: place finish at the World Champs in two thousand and two?

1890
01:35:02,267 --> 01:35:02,427
Speaker 8: Sit?

1891
01:35:04,147 --> 01:35:08,107
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I've said it several times.

1892
01:35:08,267 --> 01:35:13,707
Speaker 17: I think wearing your country's uniform, your jersey and New

1893
01:35:13,827 --> 01:35:15,387
Speaker 17: Zealand on the front inches, there's.

1894
01:35:15,267 --> 01:35:15,867
Speaker 3: Nothing like that.

1895
01:35:16,147 --> 01:35:17,387
Speaker 15: That is that is.

1896
01:35:19,147 --> 01:35:21,747
Speaker 3: Top of the top, you know. And I, by the way, I.

1897
01:35:21,787 --> 01:35:24,867
Speaker 17: Loved winning championships with San Antonio without a doubt. But

1898
01:35:25,667 --> 01:35:28,187
Speaker 17: you know, as a young kid tall and tor Bay,

1899
01:35:28,267 --> 01:35:32,147
Speaker 17: I don't know that I ever could have predicted, you know,

1900
01:35:32,347 --> 01:35:34,387
Speaker 17: playing for your country and playing at the Olympics and

1901
01:35:34,427 --> 01:35:36,547
Speaker 17: playing in the World Champs. So I think that's that's

1902
01:35:36,667 --> 01:35:38,347
Speaker 17: the cream of the crop right there, to be able

1903
01:35:38,387 --> 01:35:41,387
Speaker 17: to say you represent your country as second to none.

1904
01:35:41,547 --> 01:35:43,507
Speaker 2: Special group of players. You look at the roster just

1905
01:35:43,867 --> 01:35:46,547
Speaker 2: generational talent in there is there a dynamic in that

1906
01:35:46,627 --> 01:35:48,707
Speaker 2: group which means that if you happen to get together now,

1907
01:35:48,787 --> 01:35:50,627
Speaker 2: even just with a couple of those guys, would it

1908
01:35:50,747 --> 01:35:53,227
Speaker 2: just be like old times, you'd slip into the same conversations.

1909
01:35:54,467 --> 01:35:55,307
Speaker 3: I'm sure we would.

1910
01:35:55,387 --> 01:35:55,867
Speaker 8: I mean it was.

1911
01:35:56,147 --> 01:35:57,067
Speaker 3: It was a great group.

1912
01:35:57,147 --> 01:35:59,947
Speaker 17: I mean, we're we're all still on WhatsApp channels together

1913
01:36:00,147 --> 01:36:03,347
Speaker 17: and several of them have come through here pretty regularly

1914
01:36:03,427 --> 01:36:04,067
Speaker 17: a visit.

1915
01:36:03,947 --> 01:36:06,147
Speaker 3: Which you know, I love you.

1916
01:36:06,507 --> 01:36:09,467
Speaker 17: We shared, you know, obviously some great, great memories, some

1917
01:36:09,587 --> 01:36:12,787
Speaker 17: common bonds and so forth, and some memories that are

1918
01:36:12,827 --> 01:36:15,307
Speaker 17: going to last us us a lifetime together, for sure,

1919
01:36:15,427 --> 01:36:16,027
Speaker 17: without a doubt.

1920
01:36:16,387 --> 01:36:18,427
Speaker 2: Earlier this year at junior Tall Blacks were fourth at

1921
01:36:18,427 --> 01:36:21,427
Speaker 2: the under nineteen World Cup. Last year as seventeen's fourth

1922
01:36:21,507 --> 01:36:23,507
Speaker 2: at their World Cup. Are you aware of the new

1923
01:36:23,587 --> 01:36:26,267
Speaker 2: wave of young Kiwi basketballers coming through?

1924
01:36:27,267 --> 01:36:30,227
Speaker 17: I am very aware, actually, and I think that's just

1925
01:36:30,867 --> 01:36:33,867
Speaker 17: I could not be more proud of of of those,

1926
01:36:34,307 --> 01:36:36,147
Speaker 17: you know, young men and women to be quite frank,

1927
01:36:36,227 --> 01:36:38,947
Speaker 17: that are representing the country at all different age groups.

1928
01:36:39,467 --> 01:36:42,947
Speaker 17: I think it's inspiring and hopefully it helps inspiring another

1929
01:36:43,067 --> 01:36:46,067
Speaker 17: generation after them to continue to grow and you know,

1930
01:36:46,187 --> 01:36:50,747
Speaker 17: guys like Pio and Kirk and Steven Adams and the

1931
01:36:50,827 --> 01:36:54,627
Speaker 17: guys that have played over here or represented the country at.

1932
01:36:54,587 --> 01:36:55,467
Speaker 3: The highest levels.

1933
01:36:55,627 --> 01:36:59,307
Speaker 17: Hopefully they inspired this group to you know, and come

1934
01:36:59,347 --> 01:37:00,907
Speaker 17: and do better than the ones that came before them.

1935
01:37:00,947 --> 01:37:02,707
Speaker 3: I think that's that's the only thing we can hope for.

1936
01:37:03,147 --> 01:37:06,227
Speaker 2: Just to finish. Can you watch a game of basket

1937
01:37:06,507 --> 01:37:09,267
Speaker 2: ball now, just for the pleasure of watching a game

1938
01:37:09,347 --> 01:37:10,427
Speaker 2: of basketball or not?

1939
01:37:13,587 --> 01:37:16,707
Speaker 17: I can probably watch my kids games at that level,

1940
01:37:16,867 --> 01:37:21,067
Speaker 17: but yeah, not really. If I'm going to watch a

1941
01:37:21,147 --> 01:37:23,987
Speaker 17: game or something for just the sake of just mindless

1942
01:37:24,067 --> 01:37:27,187
Speaker 17: TV or something, it's it's probably not basketball. It's probably

1943
01:37:27,227 --> 01:37:30,387
Speaker 17: a different sport. But I will say I continue to

1944
01:37:30,427 --> 01:37:33,267
Speaker 17: critique those as well. It's it just comes with the territory.

1945
01:37:33,547 --> 01:37:35,987
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time, Sean. That's a great pleasure to

1946
01:37:36,027 --> 01:37:37,907
Speaker 2: catch up. All the best for the NBA season ahead

1947
01:37:37,947 --> 01:37:38,707
Speaker 2: with the Brooklyn Nets.

1948
01:37:39,427 --> 01:37:41,107
Speaker 3: Cheers, Jason, all the best mate, Now, all.

1949
01:37:40,987 --> 01:37:42,787
Speaker 2: The best of you too, Sewan. Sean Mark's there, the

1950
01:37:42,827 --> 01:37:45,947
Speaker 2: one and only general manager Brooklyn Nets and one of

1951
01:37:45,987 --> 01:37:48,307
Speaker 2: our absolute great when it comes to basketball and now

1952
01:37:48,467 --> 01:37:53,107
Speaker 2: basketball general management management, one of our truly one of

1953
01:37:53,147 --> 01:37:56,027
Speaker 2: the foremost sporting executives around the world flying the Kiwi

1954
01:37:56,147 --> 01:37:59,467
Speaker 2: flag twelve twenty three minutes past two twenty three minutes

1955
01:37:59,467 --> 01:38:02,587
Speaker 2: past two twelve eight. White cut A lead Canterbury early

1956
01:38:02,627 --> 01:38:05,467
Speaker 2: in the second half of the Farah Palmer Cup Final.

1957
01:38:05,667 --> 01:38:09,587
Speaker 2: Can tell you from the NPC Otago seven five ahead

1958
01:38:09,587 --> 01:38:12,747
Speaker 2: of Auckland at Auckland Grammar School this game as they

1959
01:38:12,787 --> 01:38:15,827
Speaker 2: approach the twenty minute mark and Wellington seven mill ahead

1960
01:38:15,827 --> 01:38:18,547
Speaker 2: of Bay of plenty fifteen minutes into their game at

1961
01:38:19,107 --> 01:38:22,667
Speaker 2: Jerry Collins Stadium in Pottydoer. Before we go to the break,

1962
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1963
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1964
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1965
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Speaker 2: Each morning, Mike's calling out three names and if you'll

1966
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Speaker 2: one of them, be the first one through on eight

1967
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty and five hundred dollars cash

1968
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1969
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1970
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1971
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Speaker 2: Melbourne Race weekend passes for March six to eight of

1972
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Speaker 2: next year, a track experience and two thousand dollars spending money.

1973
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Speaker 2: So if you love motorsport as much as Mike does,

1974
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1975
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Speaker 2: forward slash Visa and be listening to the Mike Hosking

1976
01:39:13,027 --> 01:39:15,107
Speaker 2: Breakfast this week to be in to win thanks to

1977
01:39:15,187 --> 01:39:19,227
Speaker 2: Visa and only with News Talk ZB. We'll take a break.

1978
01:39:19,267 --> 01:39:21,587
Speaker 2: When we come back. It's into the Warriors camp where

1979
01:39:21,707 --> 01:39:25,387
Speaker 2: Aaron Clark has had a tremendous season, capped by his

1980
01:39:25,547 --> 01:39:28,867
Speaker 2: inclusion in the dally M Team of the Year this

1981
01:39:29,187 --> 01:39:31,547
Speaker 2: week gone. How does he reflect on that and on

1982
01:39:31,707 --> 01:39:33,507
Speaker 2: his season? Aaron Clark going to join us for a

1983
01:39:33,587 --> 01:39:34,107
Speaker 2: chat after this.

1984
01:39:35,627 --> 01:39:38,507
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

1985
01:39:38,507 --> 01:39:41,547
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty weekends for it with Jason Hym

1986
01:39:41,787 --> 01:39:45,627
Speaker 1: and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News

1987
01:39:45,707 --> 01:39:46,427
Speaker 1: Talks HEB.

1988
01:39:46,987 --> 01:39:50,907
Speaker 2: News Talks B two twenty seven. Completing your NRL Team

1989
01:39:50,987 --> 01:39:56,627
Speaker 2: of the Year lock Ford Aaron Clark, New Zealand Warriors.

1990
01:40:00,307 --> 01:40:00,627
Speaker 8: Here you go.

1991
01:40:00,827 --> 01:40:05,907
Speaker 2: That was Warriors play. Aaron Clark receiving his accolade at

1992
01:40:05,947 --> 01:40:09,347
Speaker 2: the presentation event for the Dallyms on Wednesday night. Fellow

1993
01:40:09,427 --> 01:40:13,867
Speaker 2: Warrior Peyton Takimwana also secured a spot on the team.

1994
01:40:13,947 --> 01:40:16,107
Speaker 2: She was one of the wingers in the women's team.

1995
01:40:16,227 --> 01:40:19,587
Speaker 2: Aaron Clark was voted Lock of the Year in the

1996
01:40:19,707 --> 01:40:23,227
Speaker 2: men's team. Eron Clark featured in all twenty five of

1997
01:40:23,307 --> 01:40:27,187
Speaker 2: the Warriors games this season, starting all but one of

1998
01:40:27,307 --> 01:40:30,187
Speaker 2: those matches, and he joins us now. Aaron, congratulations on

1999
01:40:30,787 --> 01:40:35,867
Speaker 2: this recognition, this accolade and tremendous season. How cool was

2000
01:40:35,907 --> 01:40:38,787
Speaker 2: it to stand up there on Wednesday night as one

2001
01:40:38,827 --> 01:40:41,147
Speaker 2: of the members of the Dallym Team of the Year.

2002
01:40:42,147 --> 01:40:46,467
Speaker 8: I think, oh, hello, first off, but I think just

2003
01:40:46,547 --> 01:40:50,027
Speaker 8: being recognized was a big achievement for not just me

2004
01:40:50,187 --> 01:40:53,387
Speaker 8: but my family. And to be at a function among

2005
01:40:53,587 --> 01:40:55,707
Speaker 8: some of the best players in the game was pretty special.

2006
01:40:55,747 --> 01:40:58,947
Speaker 8: And then to hear my name at the end there,

2007
01:40:58,987 --> 01:41:01,907
Speaker 8: I was like, damn, that was pretty surprising. But yeah,

2008
01:41:01,947 --> 01:41:04,947
Speaker 8: I was pretty proud and I'm happy. Yeah.

2009
01:41:05,347 --> 01:41:08,227
Speaker 2: What were your goals and ambitions when you joined the

2010
01:41:08,307 --> 01:41:09,667
Speaker 2: Warriors at the end of last season.

2011
01:41:11,867 --> 01:41:15,147
Speaker 8: Honestly, Bro, I just wanted to come here just and

2012
01:41:15,427 --> 01:41:19,947
Speaker 8: come home, and I felt like I had unfinished business

2013
01:41:19,987 --> 01:41:22,587
Speaker 8: here in a way because I left here and I

2014
01:41:22,707 --> 01:41:24,827
Speaker 8: wasn't i could have given my all at that time

2015
01:41:24,867 --> 01:41:28,107
Speaker 8: because I wasn't in the right mental space. And I

2016
01:41:28,187 --> 01:41:30,747
Speaker 8: feel like I'm in the right mental space now and

2017
01:41:30,867 --> 01:41:34,067
Speaker 8: I can do that. And I'm quite happy that I'm

2018
01:41:34,107 --> 01:41:35,787
Speaker 8: giving my all to this club because that's all I

2019
01:41:35,827 --> 01:41:36,227
Speaker 8: wanted to do.

2020
01:41:36,467 --> 01:41:39,667
Speaker 2: From being honest, how different are you from the player

2021
01:41:39,947 --> 01:41:43,027
Speaker 2: and the person who left the Warriors in twenty seventeen.

2022
01:41:43,867 --> 01:41:48,027
Speaker 8: Well, I think, well, honestly, I think the person side

2023
01:41:48,067 --> 01:41:52,067
Speaker 8: of things is what's helped my game a lot. I've

2024
01:41:52,067 --> 01:41:53,947
Speaker 8: got a good group of boys around me at the club,

2025
01:41:54,787 --> 01:41:57,067
Speaker 8: good coaching stuff to keep me on the straight and narrow.

2026
01:41:57,147 --> 01:41:59,387
Speaker 8: But yeah, I think just I think having three kids,

2027
01:41:59,427 --> 01:42:01,467
Speaker 8: bro kind of you got to grow up quick and

2028
01:42:01,627 --> 01:42:03,147
Speaker 8: it gives you a bit of a purpose. It's not

2029
01:42:03,307 --> 01:42:06,147
Speaker 8: just about you anymore. So I think that's the biggest one.

2030
01:42:06,667 --> 01:42:09,147
Speaker 2: How happy were you with your season? First of all,

2031
01:42:09,227 --> 01:42:11,387
Speaker 2: let's talk about you personally. How how happy were you?

2032
01:42:11,467 --> 01:42:15,387
Speaker 2: But the way you played across the season, I was happy, mate.

2033
01:42:15,427 --> 01:42:18,987
Speaker 8: But the cool thing is like for me personally is

2034
01:42:19,107 --> 01:42:22,627
Speaker 8: I still got so much to improve on it. So

2035
01:42:22,787 --> 01:42:27,507
Speaker 8: much to learn. It's it's different this year because I'm

2036
01:42:27,587 --> 01:42:29,347
Speaker 8: on the field a lot, a lot longer, so I

2037
01:42:29,427 --> 01:42:33,307
Speaker 8: need to learn certain ways to save energy here and there.

2038
01:42:34,547 --> 01:42:36,867
Speaker 8: But now I'm just just loving it, bro just loving

2039
01:42:37,187 --> 01:42:39,747
Speaker 8: the opportunity that was given to me, and I'm hopefully

2040
01:42:39,787 --> 01:42:42,387
Speaker 8: I've taken it with both hands. I hope everyone can see.

2041
01:42:42,827 --> 01:42:45,987
Speaker 2: I didn't see you saving energy at all during the season,

2042
01:42:46,067 --> 01:42:47,427
Speaker 2: and when were you doing that?

2043
01:42:48,547 --> 01:42:51,867
Speaker 8: But personally, I think just trying to free up my

2044
01:42:51,947 --> 01:42:54,627
Speaker 8: halves a bit more like obviously you see the run

2045
01:42:54,707 --> 01:42:57,147
Speaker 8: I do and the carries, but I think I can

2046
01:42:57,227 --> 01:42:59,467
Speaker 8: work on my passing game to give my halves a

2047
01:42:59,507 --> 01:43:02,347
Speaker 8: bit of space, and that's something that's that's going to

2048
01:43:02,387 --> 01:43:04,907
Speaker 8: help me save energy, where I can put my energy

2049
01:43:04,947 --> 01:43:07,227
Speaker 8: into different places other than just running all the time.

2050
01:43:07,547 --> 01:43:09,027
Speaker 2: I look at the stats, and I know they only

2051
01:43:09,107 --> 01:43:11,187
Speaker 2: tell some of the story. But you made more tackles

2052
01:43:11,227 --> 01:43:13,987
Speaker 2: than any other Warriors player this season. You averaged thirty

2053
01:43:14,067 --> 01:43:18,307
Speaker 2: four tackles per game at ninety five percent tackle efficiency.

2054
01:43:18,947 --> 01:43:21,267
Speaker 2: How much do you pride yourself on that part of

2055
01:43:21,387 --> 01:43:21,787
Speaker 2: your game?

2056
01:43:23,787 --> 01:43:26,667
Speaker 8: I think defense. Defense is the massive part of our

2057
01:43:26,707 --> 01:43:30,547
Speaker 8: game these days. Made and when I get tired I

2058
01:43:30,667 --> 01:43:33,267
Speaker 8: need to make sure that stays up. And I didn't

2059
01:43:33,307 --> 01:43:37,307
Speaker 8: even know those stats. Brown, It's quite quite much to

2060
01:43:37,347 --> 01:43:39,667
Speaker 8: hear that, because I thought it was heaps worse than that.

2061
01:43:39,827 --> 01:43:42,947
Speaker 8: So you saying that I was, I'm pretty proud of that.

2062
01:43:43,667 --> 01:43:46,347
Speaker 2: What sort of physical toll does that take on you?

2063
01:43:46,907 --> 01:43:49,427
Speaker 2: Now a game when you're making thirty four tackles on average,

2064
01:43:49,827 --> 01:43:52,227
Speaker 2: you're up and down. That isn't even in start. You know,

2065
01:43:52,347 --> 01:43:54,467
Speaker 2: to think about the time with ball and hand yourself

2066
01:43:54,507 --> 01:43:57,627
Speaker 2: and the run meters that you make, what is your recovery, Like.

2067
01:43:59,507 --> 01:44:02,427
Speaker 8: You're probably bestress and asses has to put up with

2068
01:44:02,467 --> 01:44:06,787
Speaker 8: it the next day. But to go from play twenty

2069
01:44:06,867 --> 01:44:09,827
Speaker 8: minutes at the time as the year before to maybe

2070
01:44:09,947 --> 01:44:12,427
Speaker 8: fifty plus week and week out. It definitely took a

2071
01:44:12,507 --> 01:44:15,587
Speaker 8: toll on me o body. But I think midway through

2072
01:44:15,627 --> 01:44:18,547
Speaker 8: the year kind of I kind of got used to it.

2073
01:44:18,627 --> 01:44:21,347
Speaker 8: But at the start made waking up the next day

2074
01:44:21,427 --> 01:44:24,347
Speaker 8: hardly could move and like, that's the game we play,

2075
01:44:24,387 --> 01:44:26,987
Speaker 8: and that's the toughest game in the world, and I

2076
01:44:27,467 --> 01:44:30,987
Speaker 8: wouldn't want it any other way. Like I'll put everything

2077
01:44:31,067 --> 01:44:32,907
Speaker 8: on the line for my team and all the fans

2078
01:44:32,947 --> 01:44:36,547
Speaker 8: and my family. So yeah, that's I don't care about

2079
01:44:36,547 --> 01:44:36,867
Speaker 8: my body.

2080
01:44:36,907 --> 01:44:40,347
Speaker 2: At the time when you were having conversations with Andrew Webster,

2081
01:44:40,507 --> 01:44:42,027
Speaker 2: you know, at the start of the season and during

2082
01:44:42,067 --> 01:44:43,867
Speaker 2: the season, was that something that he was keen for

2083
01:44:43,947 --> 01:44:46,147
Speaker 2: you to do, to play those sort of fifty fifty

2084
01:44:46,187 --> 01:44:48,027
Speaker 2: five minute games rather than the twenty minutes.

2085
01:44:49,707 --> 01:44:53,387
Speaker 8: No, honestly, Bro, I think I just came to be

2086
01:44:53,587 --> 01:44:56,427
Speaker 8: that bench middle, to come off the bench and maybe

2087
01:44:56,507 --> 01:44:59,427
Speaker 8: do that twenty in a minute role. But obviously we

2088
01:44:59,587 --> 01:45:04,507
Speaker 8: lost two great players and Dylan and Tahu, and I

2089
01:45:04,667 --> 01:45:08,427
Speaker 8: just found myself there and what an opportunity to take

2090
01:45:08,467 --> 01:45:10,787
Speaker 8: and I wanted to take it with both hands.

2091
01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:15,467
Speaker 2: And yeah, and here's another step for you. You averaged

2092
01:45:15,467 --> 01:45:18,147
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven run meters per game, so

2093
01:45:18,227 --> 01:45:21,547
Speaker 2: that's ball and hand stuff. Only Roger and Chance ran

2094
01:45:21,667 --> 01:45:24,707
Speaker 2: for more meters than you did this season for the Warriors.

2095
01:45:24,747 --> 01:45:27,227
Speaker 2: So how how proud are you of your ball and

2096
01:45:27,347 --> 01:45:28,707
Speaker 2: hand contribution to this team.

2097
01:45:30,587 --> 01:45:34,147
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm proud, Bro, But like I said, so, it's

2098
01:45:34,187 --> 01:45:38,427
Speaker 8: got so much more to learn. And that's something I

2099
01:45:38,507 --> 01:45:40,147
Speaker 8: wanted to work on this year, was my at Tech.

2100
01:45:40,227 --> 01:45:45,507
Speaker 8: And yeah, I just felt like it's slowly coming. But yeah,

2101
01:45:45,747 --> 01:45:47,187
Speaker 8: like I said, I just want to get better with

2102
01:45:47,307 --> 01:45:49,227
Speaker 8: my passing game to free up my half backs and

2103
01:45:50,387 --> 01:45:50,907
Speaker 8: for next year.

2104
01:45:51,027 --> 01:45:54,427
Speaker 2: So no tries though, what's the story there? No tries

2105
01:45:54,467 --> 01:45:54,947
Speaker 2: this season?

2106
01:45:56,307 --> 01:45:56,867
Speaker 8: No tries?

2107
01:45:57,067 --> 01:45:57,107
Speaker 3: No?

2108
01:45:58,347 --> 01:46:01,427
Speaker 8: Oh truth, Love, I didn't go there to score tries.

2109
01:46:02,387 --> 01:46:04,227
Speaker 8: I'll rather the sleeves up and let the other boys

2110
01:46:04,227 --> 01:46:05,827
Speaker 8: score the trials. I'll do the running for me.

2111
01:46:06,507 --> 01:46:07,347
Speaker 15: Love love that.

2112
01:46:07,747 --> 01:46:09,507
Speaker 2: And if we look at the team, I mean, a

2113
01:46:09,587 --> 01:46:13,827
Speaker 2: good season, especially compared to last season, made the eight

2114
01:46:13,907 --> 01:46:16,147
Speaker 2: and then obviously one week into the playoffs. What what

2115
01:46:16,227 --> 01:46:17,907
Speaker 2: do the Warriors have to do to build on twenty

2116
01:46:17,947 --> 01:46:20,667
Speaker 2: twenty five when twenty twenty six rolls around.

2117
01:46:21,907 --> 01:46:24,507
Speaker 8: I think with this year, mate, Look, obviously we lost

2118
01:46:24,547 --> 01:46:27,467
Speaker 8: a lot of key players in Mitch and Luke, and

2119
01:46:27,987 --> 01:46:30,067
Speaker 8: over the year we lost a bit of experience with

2120
01:46:30,187 --> 01:46:32,347
Speaker 8: Fish going down, Chanelle going down for a week, and

2121
01:46:32,787 --> 01:46:34,427
Speaker 8: we've got to butt a few of the young boys,

2122
01:46:34,747 --> 01:46:39,067
Speaker 8: and I think next year they're going to be in

2123
01:46:39,187 --> 01:46:42,147
Speaker 8: our season in rol players and that's only going to

2124
01:46:42,187 --> 01:46:45,307
Speaker 8: help us because our depth at this club's crazy, bro

2125
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Speaker 8: and it's good. So I reckon those young boys are

2126
01:46:48,627 --> 01:46:50,547
Speaker 8: going to have a big influence on how we go

2127
01:46:50,747 --> 01:46:53,707
Speaker 8: next year, and they'll be ready. Luck they were this year,

2128
01:46:53,787 --> 01:46:54,427
Speaker 8: but even better.

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01:46:54,987 --> 01:46:57,547
Speaker 2: So how will you switch off during the off season?

2130
01:46:57,547 --> 01:46:59,147
Speaker 2: I guess three kids might be the answer to that.

2131
01:47:00,627 --> 01:47:04,987
Speaker 8: Our wife and three kids fully takes up so much

2132
01:47:05,067 --> 01:47:07,867
Speaker 8: time during the year, brow and I think all my

2133
01:47:07,947 --> 01:47:11,547
Speaker 8: time is going to be with them. They mean a

2134
01:47:11,587 --> 01:47:13,427
Speaker 8: lot to me, Bros. Yeah, that's all.

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01:47:13,667 --> 01:47:15,907
Speaker 2: No better way, no better way to spend it, man,

2136
01:47:15,947 --> 01:47:17,387
Speaker 2: No better way to spend it. Got a prediction for

2137
01:47:17,467 --> 01:47:19,027
Speaker 2: the Grand Final? Storm or Broncos?

2138
01:47:19,187 --> 01:47:19,627
Speaker 7: Who you got?

2139
01:47:20,187 --> 01:47:22,707
Speaker 8: I'm going Broncos, mate. I just think they're hitting their

2140
01:47:22,747 --> 01:47:25,387
Speaker 8: strift at the right time, and they got a lot

2141
01:47:25,467 --> 01:47:28,347
Speaker 8: of a lot of key players and Reese Walsh and

2142
01:47:28,787 --> 01:47:30,987
Speaker 8: Paying Heath and if Reesa is firing that they're just

2143
01:47:31,107 --> 01:47:33,427
Speaker 8: going to be too hard to stop him. With Reynolds,

2144
01:47:33,587 --> 01:47:37,387
Speaker 8: Reynolds and the Harves, he's just the maister of the team, Bosa,

2145
01:47:37,467 --> 01:47:40,787
Speaker 8: I reckon, Broncos are going to do it this time.

2146
01:47:41,107 --> 01:47:41,307
Speaker 3: Aaron.

2147
01:47:41,387 --> 01:47:43,547
Speaker 2: Congrats on a terrific season, mate. We've loved watching you

2148
01:47:43,627 --> 01:47:46,467
Speaker 2: play and awesome to see you receive that accolade on

2149
01:47:46,787 --> 01:47:49,227
Speaker 2: Wednesday night. Enjoy the off season, look forward to seeing

2150
01:47:49,227 --> 01:47:50,387
Speaker 2: what twenty twenty six brings.

2151
01:47:51,187 --> 01:47:52,987
Speaker 8: Thank you, mate, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

2152
01:47:53,027 --> 01:47:54,827
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you joining us here and thanks indeed

2153
01:47:54,867 --> 01:47:59,227
Speaker 2: and congratulations again Aaron Clark Lock of the Year in

2154
01:47:59,347 --> 01:48:01,747
Speaker 2: the in the LM Team of the Year announced on

2155
01:48:02,067 --> 01:48:05,987
Speaker 2: Wednesday night at the awards ceremony in Sydney. Yeh Grand

2156
01:48:06,027 --> 01:48:09,907
Speaker 2: Final tomorrow night at a Core Stadium in Sydney, Melbourne

2157
01:48:09,907 --> 01:48:13,427
Speaker 2: Storm Brisbane Broncos. So quite weird to have a couple

2158
01:48:13,507 --> 01:48:17,107
Speaker 2: of teams from outside of New South Wales contesting the

2159
01:48:17,147 --> 01:48:19,027
Speaker 2: Grand Final. We're going to preview that for you tomorrow

2160
01:48:19,107 --> 01:48:22,027
Speaker 2: on the show. Of course, there's also some Warriors involvement

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01:48:22,107 --> 01:48:24,907
Speaker 2: as part of Grand Final Day, a chance for the

2162
01:48:24,947 --> 01:48:27,707
Speaker 2: Warriors to collect their second title in a week. They

2163
01:48:27,747 --> 01:48:30,147
Speaker 2: won the New South Wales Cup Premiership last weekend, beating

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01:48:30,187 --> 01:48:32,867
Speaker 2: Saint George Lawara in the final. As part of Grand

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Speaker 2: Final Day tomorrow they play the Burly Bears for the

2166
01:48:35,867 --> 01:48:38,547
Speaker 2: state championship that kicks off at twenty past three New

2167
01:48:38,627 --> 01:48:41,947
Speaker 2: Zealand Time are going to hear from Bunty four tomorrow

2168
01:48:42,067 --> 01:48:43,627
Speaker 2: on the show. This will be his final game for

2169
01:48:43,707 --> 01:48:47,267
Speaker 2: the Warriors. He is not contracted for twenty twenty six,

2170
01:48:47,387 --> 01:48:49,667
Speaker 2: so how does he reflect on his over a decade

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01:48:50,147 --> 01:48:53,067
Speaker 2: in the first grade side and how keen is he

2172
01:48:53,147 --> 01:48:55,107
Speaker 2: to go out on a high? Bunty our Foller is

2173
01:48:55,187 --> 01:48:58,867
Speaker 2: part of our show tomorrow twenty four away from three,

2174
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Speaker 2: just updating you on some live sport Wayicuto continue to

2175
01:49:01,827 --> 01:49:04,147
Speaker 2: lead the Farah Partmer Cup Final. It's a tight one.

2176
01:49:04,867 --> 01:49:09,107
Speaker 2: Fifty five minutes gone, twelve eight Waiticuto over Canterbury Buddings.

2177
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Speaker 2: MPC Action Otago are making no race of it against

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Speaker 2: Auckland at Auckland Grammar School. They're twenty one to five

2179
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Speaker 2: ahead after half an hour. There the's Otago sides the

2180
01:49:18,427 --> 01:49:21,827
Speaker 2: real deal man. They could win the MPC and Wellington

2181
01:49:21,947 --> 01:49:25,867
Speaker 2: nineteen nail ahead of Bay of plenty, with Stanley Solomon

2182
01:49:26,027 --> 01:49:29,267
Speaker 2: the latest to score a try for the Lions. Unfortunately,

2183
01:49:29,307 --> 01:49:31,427
Speaker 2: even if they win this game, Wellington can't make it

2184
01:49:31,547 --> 01:49:33,147
Speaker 2: to the top eight, but at least they can finish

2185
01:49:33,147 --> 01:49:35,667
Speaker 2: their season on a high. Nineteen nail ahead after twenty

2186
01:49:35,747 --> 01:49:42,907
Speaker 2: seven minutes at Jerry Collins Stadium. Right, let's give you

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Speaker 2: the chance to win a sporting chance with the tab.

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Speaker 2: We do this at around about this time every Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to offer you the chance of three bets

2190
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Speaker 2: short evens or long. You decide which one you want.

2191
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Speaker 2: Over the past few weeks, Netball New Zealand has pursued

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Speaker 2: every pathway with Dame Nolean to bring her back into

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Speaker 2: in the future leadership. We can't make any further comment.

2212
01:50:57,147 --> 01:51:00,587
Speaker 2: Yvette McCausland Jury has agreed to remain as interim coach

2213
01:51:00,667 --> 01:51:04,507
Speaker 2: for the Constellation Cup and Northern Tour, supported by Leanna

2214
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Speaker 2: Lelta as her assistant.

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Speaker 3: The go no.

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Speaker 2: Resolution from Netball New Zealand if at McCausland Jury and

2217
01:51:10,747 --> 01:51:15,867
Speaker 2: Leandi Lilta to continue as interim coaches for the Constellation Cup.

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01:51:16,747 --> 01:51:19,147
Speaker 2: Time to play a sporting chance with a tab going

2219
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Speaker 2: to offer you three different bets. Lucy's our Caller're gonna

2220
01:51:22,867 --> 01:51:25,147
Speaker 2: get Lucy on the air in a second, short, evens

2221
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Speaker 2: or long. You decide which one you want, Lucy and

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Speaker 2: will place the bet on your behalf and if it

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Speaker 2: comes in, you take the winnings. Does that sort of

2224
01:51:32,307 --> 01:51:39,587
Speaker 2: kind of clear? Angulous? No, Lucy, It's really easy, all right,

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Speaker 2: Here's here are your three options. I'm going to give

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01:51:41,707 --> 01:51:43,627
Speaker 2: your three options. You just got to choose one. So

2227
01:51:43,747 --> 01:51:48,027
Speaker 2: the short option is the NRL Grand Final. It's Melbourne

2228
01:51:48,227 --> 01:51:51,547
Speaker 2: to beat Brisbane. It's paying a dollar seventy you would

2229
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Speaker 2: win one hundred and five dollars. That's your short option

2230
01:51:55,427 --> 01:51:58,987
Speaker 2: Option number one, Evans is the All Blacks to beat

2231
01:51:59,027 --> 01:52:03,907
Speaker 2: the Wallabies by thirteen plus tonight. That's paying two dollars ninety.

2232
01:52:04,467 --> 01:52:08,107
Speaker 2: You would win two hundred and eighty five dollars if

2233
01:52:08,147 --> 01:52:12,067
Speaker 2: that happens. And the long option is a Premier League

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01:52:12,067 --> 01:52:16,227
Speaker 2: football game, Nottingham Forest to beat Newcastle. It's paying five

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01:52:16,347 --> 01:52:20,507
Speaker 2: dollars twenty. You would win six hundred and thirty dollars.

2236
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Speaker 2: So those are your choices, Lucy, Melbourne Storm to win

2237
01:52:23,747 --> 01:52:26,507
Speaker 2: the Grand Final that would get you one hundred and five,

2238
01:52:27,147 --> 01:52:29,827
Speaker 2: The All Blacks to beat the Wallaby's thirteen plus that

2239
01:52:29,907 --> 01:52:33,507
Speaker 2: would get you two hundred and eighty five, or Nottingham

2240
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Speaker 2: Forest to beat Newcastle that would get you six hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty. Why you're getting some help there? Who help?

2242
01:52:38,747 --> 01:52:39,907
Speaker 2: Being out in the background there.

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Speaker 5: I think I'll do the All Blacks.

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01:52:45,907 --> 01:52:48,227
Speaker 2: I heard that. I heard that suggestion given by your

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01:52:48,587 --> 01:52:53,667
Speaker 2: very sensible husband. Love it All Blacks about the Wallaby's

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01:52:53,707 --> 01:52:56,587
Speaker 2: thirteen plus. We'll place We'll place the bet for both

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01:52:56,667 --> 01:52:59,507
Speaker 2: of you and if that happens, two hundred and eighty

2248
01:52:59,507 --> 01:53:03,947
Speaker 2: five dollars for you guys. All right, Bill, well done,

2249
01:53:04,027 --> 01:53:06,347
Speaker 2: you too, good stuff, good stuff and a good decision

2250
01:53:06,427 --> 01:53:08,187
Speaker 2: and two we'll place the bit for you if you

2251
01:53:08,227 --> 01:53:10,387
Speaker 2: get a result. The winnings minus the one fifty is yours,

2252
01:53:10,427 --> 01:53:12,147
Speaker 2: so as I say, two hundred and eighty five dollars,

2253
01:53:12,707 --> 01:53:14,267
Speaker 2: we'll do it again next week. Thanks to our mates

2254
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Speaker 2: at the TB. As always, please bet responsibly. Well, I'm

2255
01:53:17,827 --> 01:53:19,227
Speaker 2: out not going to be rain his scuff of the

2256
01:53:19,267 --> 01:53:23,307
Speaker 2: black Caps chances of reclaiming Crickets Chapel Hadley Trophy last

2257
01:53:23,387 --> 01:53:26,147
Speaker 2: night second T twenty was eventually reduced down to two

2258
01:53:26,187 --> 01:53:29,587
Speaker 2: point one overs, so basically abandoned. Bay Oval is again

2259
01:53:29,947 --> 01:53:32,387
Speaker 2: the host for tonight's third and final match of the series.

2260
01:53:32,587 --> 01:53:35,027
Speaker 2: Black Caps coach Rob Walter is with us out of

2261
01:53:35,067 --> 01:53:37,267
Speaker 2: the mount despite the rain. Rab are you at least

2262
01:53:37,627 --> 01:53:39,827
Speaker 2: getting value from having the squad together?

2263
01:53:41,507 --> 01:53:41,707
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2264
01:53:41,827 --> 01:53:45,507
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Obviously disappointing that we don't have a shot at

2265
01:53:46,427 --> 01:53:49,187
Speaker 4: winning back to Chapel had Ley, but we'll sort of

2266
01:53:49,227 --> 01:53:51,947
Speaker 4: focus on the givning on trying to level up the scores.

2267
01:53:53,347 --> 01:53:54,987
Speaker 4: But could to you know, have a run under a

2268
01:53:54,987 --> 01:53:56,707
Speaker 4: couple of days ago there was a good ard thing

2269
01:53:56,827 --> 01:53:59,547
Speaker 4: and a lot to learn from that and then you

2270
01:53:59,627 --> 01:54:01,947
Speaker 4: know it just hats off to the boys yesterday.

2271
01:54:01,987 --> 01:54:03,667
Speaker 3: Even though there's only thirteen balls.

2272
01:54:03,707 --> 01:54:06,147
Speaker 4: You know, you wait around all day to get an

2273
01:54:06,187 --> 01:54:06,707
Speaker 4: up Rginia.

2274
01:54:06,787 --> 01:54:07,947
Speaker 8: I thought, you know, they did the.

2275
01:54:07,987 --> 01:54:10,307
Speaker 4: Thirteen walls well and to pity that you couldn't get

2276
01:54:10,347 --> 01:54:11,027
Speaker 4: some form of them.

2277
01:54:11,667 --> 01:54:13,227
Speaker 2: It's good to get the chance to chat to you, Robi.

2278
01:54:13,227 --> 01:54:15,227
Speaker 2: You've been in the job four months now. Your first

2279
01:54:15,227 --> 01:54:18,587
Speaker 2: assignment the Tea twenty Try series with South Africa in Zimbabwe.

2280
01:54:19,067 --> 01:54:21,387
Speaker 2: In Zimbabwe. You won that in a comfortable two nil

2281
01:54:21,427 --> 01:54:24,747
Speaker 2: Test series won against Zimbabwe was the main advantage for you.

2282
01:54:25,227 --> 01:54:28,347
Speaker 2: The chance to spend time on tour with your players.

2283
01:54:30,027 --> 01:54:33,907
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I think I always say that you only

2284
01:54:34,027 --> 01:54:37,307
Speaker 4: know really there were kings of a team and an

2285
01:54:37,387 --> 01:54:40,347
Speaker 4: environment one walk in issues, so it was good to

2286
01:54:40,747 --> 01:54:43,307
Speaker 4: just climb to spend a lot of time observing and

2287
01:54:43,347 --> 01:54:46,947
Speaker 4: obviously connecting with players and staff and just getting a

2288
01:54:47,027 --> 01:54:51,227
Speaker 4: sense of half things operate and where the potential gaps are.

2289
01:54:51,387 --> 01:54:52,307
Speaker 7: So yeah, it was.

2290
01:54:52,427 --> 01:54:53,347
Speaker 4: It was a great tour for that.

2291
01:54:53,867 --> 01:54:57,347
Speaker 2: The two Tests against Zimbabwe were very lopsided. You won

2292
01:54:57,387 --> 01:54:59,147
Speaker 2: by nine wickets and then by an innings and three

2293
01:54:59,267 --> 01:55:02,267
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine runs. Where do you find value

2294
01:55:02,707 --> 01:55:05,187
Speaker 2: in lopsided contests like that?

2295
01:55:07,627 --> 01:55:10,747
Speaker 4: I suppose you know, from from a team point of view,

2296
01:55:10,787 --> 01:55:12,827
Speaker 4: you sort of can only compete with what's in front

2297
01:55:12,867 --> 01:55:14,907
Speaker 4: of you, and I thought you did that well. The

2298
01:55:15,027 --> 01:55:17,667
Speaker 4: batter is, you know, you've still got to score the rains.

2299
01:55:17,667 --> 01:55:18,827
Speaker 8: He's got to apply yourself.

2300
01:55:19,227 --> 01:55:21,387
Speaker 4: In test cricket, it doesn't matter who you're playing, and

2301
01:55:21,747 --> 01:55:25,667
Speaker 4: I thought we'd certainly got better as the two games

2302
01:55:25,747 --> 01:55:28,747
Speaker 4: went on. And then from a bowling point of view,

2303
01:55:28,787 --> 01:55:30,947
Speaker 4: you know we had a couple of debut times, so

2304
01:55:31,947 --> 01:55:35,107
Speaker 4: same thing applies. You know, all of those zumbible test batters,

2305
01:55:35,147 --> 01:55:36,747
Speaker 4: you know a lot of them have got Test hundreds

2306
01:55:36,827 --> 01:55:39,227
Speaker 4: and highly experienced, so you still have to bowl well

2307
01:55:39,267 --> 01:55:41,627
Speaker 4: and put the ball in the right area. Then for

2308
01:55:41,907 --> 01:55:44,107
Speaker 4: young guys making the debuts, I don't think it matters

2309
01:55:44,147 --> 01:55:46,307
Speaker 4: who you're playing against. The will still be some sort

2310
01:55:46,307 --> 01:55:47,067
Speaker 4: of element.

2311
01:55:46,827 --> 01:55:47,547
Speaker 8: Of nerves there.

2312
01:55:47,627 --> 01:55:51,507
Speaker 4: So to see them come into the team and really

2313
01:55:51,587 --> 01:55:54,827
Speaker 4: stand up and thrive was great and sort of great

2314
01:55:54,867 --> 01:55:56,507
Speaker 4: indication of the environment as well.

2315
01:55:56,627 --> 01:55:59,787
Speaker 8: So whilst it was lopsided, there's always you know.

2316
01:55:59,787 --> 01:56:02,227
Speaker 4: There's always stuff to take away that I thought the

2317
01:56:02,307 --> 01:56:03,307
Speaker 4: guys did impressively.

2318
01:56:03,347 --> 01:56:03,507
Speaker 7: Well.

2319
01:56:04,107 --> 01:56:06,507
Speaker 2: How much of the summer is about preparing for all

2320
01:56:06,507 --> 01:56:08,587
Speaker 2: the t twenty World Cup in February and March.

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01:56:10,467 --> 01:56:13,627
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course you have one I on that tournament,

2322
01:56:13,747 --> 01:56:17,107
Speaker 4: and you know sort of working towards it bit by bit.

2323
01:56:17,227 --> 01:56:21,387
Speaker 4: I think ultimately foundationally, you know the blocks are in place,

2324
01:56:21,467 --> 01:56:25,867
Speaker 4: and it's just sort of fine tuning and evolving certain

2325
01:56:26,067 --> 01:56:30,747
Speaker 4: small elements in our game for that competition. And fortunately

2326
01:56:30,827 --> 01:56:33,107
Speaker 4: there's you know, there's a favorit of competition for places

2327
01:56:33,187 --> 01:56:37,347
Speaker 4: out there, so you know these games are important one

2328
01:56:37,547 --> 01:56:40,347
Speaker 4: for that, but also for a unit just gets close

2329
01:56:40,427 --> 01:56:42,747
Speaker 4: and closer to understanding around how we want to play.

2330
01:56:43,107 --> 01:56:45,907
Speaker 2: It does feel like we're building some significant white ball death.

2331
01:56:45,987 --> 01:56:49,347
Speaker 2: Even with a number of players unavailable for this current series,

2332
01:56:49,387 --> 01:56:51,187
Speaker 2: there's still a very strong side you can put out.

2333
01:56:51,587 --> 01:56:54,707
Speaker 2: How do you evaluate the player poll for in particular

2334
01:56:54,787 --> 01:56:59,627
Speaker 2: T twenty and fifty over cricket, I think you know.

2335
01:56:59,707 --> 01:57:02,147
Speaker 4: By nature of the way cricket operates at the moment

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Speaker 4: is you know, franchise leagues pulling players out of international

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01:57:05,827 --> 01:57:10,947
Speaker 4: duty now and then you by default build a bigger pool.

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01:57:11,027 --> 01:57:13,027
Speaker 4: But it's nice to have seen how you know that

2339
01:57:13,187 --> 01:57:15,667
Speaker 4: pool has delivered good results of I think back to

2340
01:57:15,747 --> 01:57:17,707
Speaker 4: the Pakistan series at the end of the last summer.

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01:57:18,827 --> 01:57:20,867
Speaker 4: You know, I think Garry and the team did out

2342
01:57:20,867 --> 01:57:23,627
Speaker 4: of a job in terms of building that that depth,

2343
01:57:24,427 --> 01:57:27,827
Speaker 4: and we're seeing guys getting opportunities to play and really

2344
01:57:27,827 --> 01:57:29,947
Speaker 4: stepping up when they get those chips. So it's always

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01:57:29,987 --> 01:57:32,547
Speaker 4: a good sign. I mean, at the end of the day,

2346
01:57:32,627 --> 01:57:36,187
Speaker 4: you're always better. There's more guys competing for a spot

2347
01:57:36,747 --> 01:57:39,107
Speaker 4: and it makes it sort of drives performance without having

2348
01:57:39,147 --> 01:57:41,427
Speaker 4: to do too much. So you know, we want as

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01:57:41,507 --> 01:57:44,027
Speaker 4: many quality players as we can possibly get because we

2350
01:57:44,187 --> 01:57:46,907
Speaker 4: know that you know that the international cricket world is

2351
01:57:47,987 --> 01:57:50,627
Speaker 4: the mind that really it's not possible to just lean

2352
01:57:50,747 --> 01:57:53,187
Speaker 4: on the resources of a couple of, you know, like

2353
01:57:53,267 --> 01:57:55,267
Speaker 4: fifteen players and think that that's going to be enough.

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01:57:55,387 --> 01:57:57,587
Speaker 4: So the stronger a pool can be, the better be

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01:57:57,707 --> 01:57:57,867
Speaker 4: for it.

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01:57:58,667 --> 01:58:01,827
Speaker 2: And cricket and cricket contracts and ever changing issue in

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01:58:01,907 --> 01:58:04,627
Speaker 2: modern day cricket and have a changing landscape. How do

2358
01:58:04,667 --> 01:58:06,707
Speaker 2: your best navigate the fact that some of your I

2359
01:58:06,747 --> 01:58:08,627
Speaker 2: seem to really contracted and some of them.

2360
01:58:08,547 --> 01:58:13,827
Speaker 4: Oun't well, I think first and foremostly especially for world events,

2361
01:58:13,947 --> 01:58:16,787
Speaker 4: essentially the casual contracts kind of mirror the peak event

2362
01:58:16,907 --> 01:58:19,507
Speaker 4: that's in front of us, and so hence the guys

2363
01:58:19,547 --> 01:58:23,067
Speaker 4: who are contracted this time round with the Tea Twingy

2364
01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:25,347
Speaker 4: World Cup next year. You just want to have your

2365
01:58:25,387 --> 01:58:27,587
Speaker 4: best players available to play for your country, you know,

2366
01:58:27,787 --> 01:58:30,067
Speaker 4: And that's kind of what we try to achieve. We

2367
01:58:30,747 --> 01:58:34,227
Speaker 4: understand the landscapes changing and it's and it changes quickly,

2368
01:58:34,347 --> 01:58:35,907
Speaker 4: so we just want to be as flexible as we

2369
01:58:35,987 --> 01:58:40,827
Speaker 4: possibly can within either realms of contracting really, and it's

2370
01:58:41,227 --> 01:58:43,707
Speaker 4: it's not something that you can kind of make it

2371
01:58:43,867 --> 01:58:45,547
Speaker 4: to everyone. It's just have to do the best that

2372
01:58:45,627 --> 01:58:48,987
Speaker 4: you possibly can for everyone that's involved in the system.

2373
01:58:49,067 --> 01:58:52,627
Speaker 4: And so we certainly try and achieve that. But you know,

2374
01:58:52,707 --> 01:58:54,827
Speaker 4: guys are still committed to playing for for the black

2375
01:58:54,907 --> 01:58:57,507
Speaker 4: Caps and we see that when they come back into

2376
01:58:57,547 --> 01:59:00,147
Speaker 4: the environment, and so you know, we've got a group

2377
01:59:00,187 --> 01:59:02,587
Speaker 4: of players that are really hungry and want to do well.

2378
01:59:02,907 --> 01:59:05,187
Speaker 2: One of those on occasional playing agreement this season is

2379
01:59:05,227 --> 01:59:08,827
Speaker 2: King Williamson. He opted out of this current series against Australia.

2380
01:59:09,587 --> 01:59:11,587
Speaker 2: How often are we going to see Kane Williamson play

2381
01:59:11,627 --> 01:59:13,147
Speaker 2: for New Zealand over the next few months.

2382
01:59:14,787 --> 01:59:17,947
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that mc kane will be running out

2383
01:59:17,987 --> 01:59:20,667
Speaker 4: for the black Caps. The sort of mechanisms of exactly

2384
01:59:20,747 --> 01:59:23,347
Speaker 4: what that looks like we're still you know, chatting about

2385
01:59:23,467 --> 01:59:26,827
Speaker 4: and working out and obviously that you know, Kane's played

2386
01:59:26,867 --> 01:59:29,187
Speaker 4: and represented the black Caps for a very long time

2387
01:59:29,307 --> 01:59:32,987
Speaker 4: and there's really an icon of the black Caps units.

2388
01:59:33,027 --> 01:59:37,187
Speaker 4: So trying to ultimately manage his time and manage the

2389
01:59:37,307 --> 01:59:40,147
Speaker 4: program running forward in this also appreciating you know, the

2390
01:59:40,827 --> 01:59:42,987
Speaker 4: other elements of his life that needs to take care of.

2391
01:59:43,187 --> 01:59:45,227
Speaker 8: Is you know, this is what we're in conversation with.

2392
01:59:45,427 --> 01:59:48,147
Speaker 4: But like all these guys, I keep saying, you know,

2393
01:59:48,227 --> 01:59:50,667
Speaker 4: he's dedicated to just still playing for the black Caps

2394
01:59:50,907 --> 01:59:51,707
Speaker 4: and that's exciting.

2395
01:59:52,387 --> 01:59:55,227
Speaker 2: Just the three test matches this home summer or before Christmas,

2396
01:59:55,307 --> 01:59:58,667
Speaker 2: all against the West Indies. I know, you know you

2397
01:59:58,787 --> 02:00:00,427
Speaker 2: can't control this frog, but would you like to be

2398
02:00:00,507 --> 02:00:03,187
Speaker 2: playing some red ball cricket at home in January and February?

2399
02:00:04,987 --> 02:00:07,587
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously that is a big time of

2400
02:00:07,947 --> 02:00:11,987
Speaker 4: our summer and for the international schedule is what it

2401
02:00:12,107 --> 02:00:15,227
Speaker 4: is really and the World Cup being in February is

2402
02:00:15,987 --> 02:00:18,147
Speaker 4: you know, that's where it's been positioned and ultimately we

2403
02:00:18,227 --> 02:00:20,827
Speaker 4: have to prep for that. So you know, if you

2404
02:00:20,867 --> 02:00:22,947
Speaker 4: look forward to the following year, we've got ten test

2405
02:00:23,027 --> 02:00:24,947
Speaker 4: matches in the almost so you know, that will be

2406
02:00:25,187 --> 02:00:28,547
Speaker 4: a massive Test match season for us, and you know,

2407
02:00:28,587 --> 02:00:30,667
Speaker 4: if you're a test Test match lover and the love

2408
02:00:30,787 --> 02:00:33,067
Speaker 4: of the puris format of the game, that's going to

2409
02:00:33,067 --> 02:00:35,267
Speaker 4: be the time you're going to be very interested with

2410
02:00:35,427 --> 02:00:38,267
Speaker 4: tourist England and Australia and India and in New Zealand.

2411
02:00:38,347 --> 02:00:42,147
Speaker 2: So it'll be awesome, rightch and Ravendra is he okay

2412
02:00:42,307 --> 02:00:45,227
Speaker 2: after his collision with the advertising hauling the other day?

2413
02:00:46,467 --> 02:00:49,427
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he's he's okay. I mean, I think ultimately,

2414
02:00:49,827 --> 02:00:52,627
Speaker 4: you know, he's a bit bashed up and there's a

2415
02:00:52,707 --> 02:00:54,867
Speaker 4: you know, a wound that needs healing on his face

2416
02:00:54,907 --> 02:00:56,667
Speaker 4: and we didn't want to take any chancewers with that.

2417
02:00:58,227 --> 02:01:00,707
Speaker 4: But hopefully, you know, the healing takes place in the

2418
02:01:00,787 --> 02:01:03,107
Speaker 4: time frames that it shouldn't be see him back fairly soon.

2419
02:01:03,747 --> 02:01:05,707
Speaker 4: But it could have been a lot worse.

2420
02:01:05,747 --> 02:01:06,867
Speaker 7: But we still for him.

2421
02:01:07,027 --> 02:01:09,187
Speaker 4: I know how Desperty was to play this series, so

2422
02:01:09,987 --> 02:01:12,267
Speaker 4: I know he was highly highly disappointed when he when

2423
02:01:12,307 --> 02:01:12,987
Speaker 4: he wasn't able to.

2424
02:01:13,347 --> 02:01:15,787
Speaker 2: And your White Bull captain Mitchell Santner recovering from a

2425
02:01:15,987 --> 02:01:19,707
Speaker 2: sports hernia he suffered playing in the hundred in England.

2426
02:01:20,067 --> 02:01:22,147
Speaker 2: Has he been in and around this team, the team

2427
02:01:22,187 --> 02:01:22,547
Speaker 2: this week.

2428
02:01:23,307 --> 02:01:26,667
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been here for essentially, you know, the time

2429
02:01:26,747 --> 02:01:28,307
Speaker 4: as we've been in the Monk, he's been with us.

2430
02:01:28,347 --> 02:01:31,827
Speaker 4: It's obviously important for me having him around as a

2431
02:01:31,867 --> 02:01:35,827
Speaker 4: White Bull captain. Sometimes it's quite handy having him in

2432
02:01:35,867 --> 02:01:37,547
Speaker 4: the box with me while the game's going on, so

2433
02:01:37,587 --> 02:01:40,067
Speaker 4: we can talk, you know, strategy and I can understand

2434
02:01:40,107 --> 02:01:42,827
Speaker 4: what he sees from a captaincy point of view. So

2435
02:01:43,347 --> 02:01:46,347
Speaker 4: and then also just just chipping away his rehab and

2436
02:01:47,267 --> 02:01:48,907
Speaker 4: a little bit of cricker that he's able to do.

2437
02:01:49,067 --> 02:01:52,147
Speaker 4: So it's been it's been really good having him run

2438
02:01:52,267 --> 02:01:52,547
Speaker 4: all right.

2439
02:01:52,587 --> 02:01:54,507
Speaker 2: And I think I heard Lockie Ferguson was down for

2440
02:01:54,587 --> 02:01:57,187
Speaker 2: a bowl yesterday. He's got a hamstring strain and he's

2441
02:01:57,227 --> 02:02:00,587
Speaker 2: recovering from so is he somewhere close to a return

2442
02:02:00,667 --> 02:02:02,947
Speaker 2: all going, Well, yeah.

2443
02:02:03,507 --> 02:02:05,827
Speaker 4: We're not quite sure exactly when that will be because

2444
02:02:05,827 --> 02:02:08,987
Speaker 4: obviously it's an injury that we need to manage properly,

2445
02:02:09,067 --> 02:02:12,547
Speaker 4: and we want to get the management of it right again.

2446
02:02:12,667 --> 02:02:15,147
Speaker 4: You know, you know, the Key and Markey event is

2447
02:02:15,227 --> 02:02:18,027
Speaker 4: next year in February, so it's really about making sure

2448
02:02:18,067 --> 02:02:20,907
Speaker 4: they'd be given the best chance of putting his name

2449
02:02:20,987 --> 02:02:23,987
Speaker 4: forward for that competition, so we'll just take the time

2450
02:02:24,067 --> 02:02:25,907
Speaker 4: that we need to to make sure you know, everything

2451
02:02:25,947 --> 02:02:27,067
Speaker 4: gets done properly.

2452
02:02:27,027 --> 02:02:28,707
Speaker 2: All right, and crucially, how are we looking for a

2453
02:02:28,747 --> 02:02:29,547
Speaker 2: bit of cricket tonight?

2454
02:02:30,867 --> 02:02:33,187
Speaker 4: Well, at the moment the sun's out, you'll be happy

2455
02:02:33,227 --> 02:02:36,467
Speaker 4: to know. So right, there's a lot of cloud around,

2456
02:02:36,547 --> 02:02:40,947
Speaker 4: but the weather forecast, although will be them, I'm not

2457
02:02:41,347 --> 02:02:43,547
Speaker 4: reliable at the best of times, says that it's going

2458
02:02:43,587 --> 02:02:45,587
Speaker 4: to be clear by this evening, so we'll think times.

2459
02:02:45,667 --> 02:02:47,867
Speaker 2: That's so sure, we'll keep our fingers crossed. Rob, all

2460
02:02:47,907 --> 02:02:50,187
Speaker 2: the best for tonight and on through the summer. Look

2461
02:02:50,187 --> 02:02:51,747
Speaker 2: forward to catching up again. But thanks for taking the

2462
02:02:51,787 --> 02:02:55,267
Speaker 2: time this afternoon. No, no, thank you, No there you

2463
02:02:55,347 --> 02:02:57,347
Speaker 2: take care too. Thanks indeed, Rob Walter, black Caps coach

2464
02:02:57,387 --> 02:02:59,347
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