1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: News Talks. It'd be as good. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Whatding to you? 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 3: Thank you for choosing our program. Welcome on in in 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 3: the next sixty minutes. It's a Tuesday, and we have 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: a new poll and the poll shows that Chris Hopkins 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 3: is more popular than Christopher Luxon, but only just so 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: what could the Prime Minister do to bolster his popularity? 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 4: Will have that story for. 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: You in five minutes. Canada has a new prime minister, 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: so who is Mark Carney and will his hardline attitude 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: to Donald Trump work? Will have that story for you 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: in ten minutes time. And the Prime Minister is heading 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: to India, so what is he going to find there? 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: We'll look at all the angles. After five point thirty 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: we're going to have correspondence from right around New Zealand 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: and all around the world and news as it breaks 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: and you can have your say by using the text 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: and the number is ninety two ninety two. A small 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: charge does apply. You can email me Dickens at News 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: talk to at b dot co dot Nz. It's seven 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: after five. 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: The agenda, it's Tuesday, the. 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: Eleventh of March, at least thirty six people have been 26 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: brought ashore and one person has been taken to hospital 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: after a US flagged oil tanker collided with a cargo 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: vessel in the North Sea. The US flagged Stinner Immeculate, 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: which is one of the ten vessels the US military 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: used to carry fuel, appears to have been hit by 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: a Portuguese flag container ship. So long and now jet 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: fuel has been spilling into the water. 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 5: It seems that we know exactly what happened here from 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 5: tracking data. I see what happened, not why it happened. 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 5: We know that the oil tanker was at anchor, it 36 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: was effectively stopped in the North Sea, and the salong 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 5: was coming from the ports of Grainsmouth in Scotland going 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: across to Rotterdam, and it hit the oil tanker pretty 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: much head on. 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Wow, so long, so long now. Ukrainian President Zelenski has 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: arrived in Saudi Arabia for a state visit. He won't 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: be attending talk with US officials on Tuesday local time, 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: but Kiev is expected to push for a truce with 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: Russia in the sea and the sky. 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 6: Well, I'm confident that the meeting will be productive. We 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 6: in Ukraine are committed to this very. 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Much, so hosorables. 48 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 6: We will do our best to ensure that Ukrainian interests 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 6: are taken into account, taken into account in the right way. 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: And it remains unclear what Washington is prepared to offer 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: an exchange for access to Ukraine's mineral wealth. A State 52 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: of Department official says the US believes Kiev is ready 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: to move forward. Meanwhile, a Kremlin spokesperson says Russia is 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: at an initial stage of restoring bilateral relations with the US, 55 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: adding that the conversations between Trump and Putin have been constructive. 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: And finally, Canada's next president, Mark Karney, has vowed to 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: win the trade war against US President Donald Trump after 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: a landslide victory to replace Justin to Trudeau. Karney, who 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: will be sworn in as PM in the coming days, 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: has also pledged retaliatory tariffs on US goods until Americans 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: show some respects. 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 7: So Donald Trump thinks thinks he can weaken US with 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 7: his plan to divide and conquer, pre Polyev's plan will 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 7: leave us divided and ready to be conquered. Because a 65 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 7: person who worships at the altar of Donald Trump, will 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 7: kneel before him, not stand up to Dad. 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: That is Marc Canny never been elected. We'll talk more 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: about this in mister Pember's time and find out more 69 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: about him. Oh meanwhile, dug Ford don't know if you know 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: about him. He's a hard man against Trump as well. 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: He is the Premier of Ontario. He's also unveiling his 72 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: plans to impose retiliatory electricity tariffs on the United States. 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day Early 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Search Simple, News Talk Zippy. 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: It's ten after five. Well, congratulations New Zealand. We're getting 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: a new road. Registrations of interest will open this week 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: for a four lane extension of State Highway One between 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: Walkworth and the little town of Tehanna as a continuation 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: of the road that was once described as the Holiday Highway. 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: But really we know it's the key to unlocking the 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: potential of Northland and busy beavers at NZATA have been 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: coming up with a plan for a while now. It's 84 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: got a spiffy animated video and all, and now the 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: government is looking for a partner to build and run 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: the Northland Expressway and so the project will take pride 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: in place in this business investment conference. The government has 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: spent a million bucks on organizing. Now, the surprising thing 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: for me is that this is news. In the first place. 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: Our roading program ebbs and flows with the passing of 91 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: each successive government, and that is a weakness. And every 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: new government seizes on the plans that are already in 93 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: place to show that something is happening during their reign. 94 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: And it shouldn't be this way. Our schedule of infrastructure 95 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: build should be known decades into the future to give 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: certainty to construction firms and financiers in Germany. In Germany, 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: they lay two hundred kilometers of new railtrack every single 98 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: year because they have a long term plan and the 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: regularity of that work means that the specialized labor that 100 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: builds them has a predictable workflow, means they don't just 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: pack up and leave every time a project is finished with, 102 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: which is what happens here. I have a mate who's 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: a tunneling engineer and his lifestyle is bizarre because he 104 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: doesn't know where the next tunnel is. He keeps on 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: moving to other countries where there's work. He doesn't like that, 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: he doesn't enjoy that, he'd rather do without the upheaval. 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: But he never knows what's happening in the future of 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: this country. Now, this is something we've talked about, and 109 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: this is something that they say the Infrastructure Commission is 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: supposed to be working on to fix. So the thing is, 111 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: don't tell me about next year's road, tell me about 112 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: the one we're going to get in twenty years. Andrew Dickens, 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: twelve after five. A little other debate I heard on 114 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: the radio yesterday was about body armor cameras and a 115 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: call from David Lttelly that they should be compulsory. Let's 116 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: be honest. Body or cameras are inevitable with the level 117 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: of violence in society and the unenviable job the police have. 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: The cold hard evidence of what goes down in the 119 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: situation is vital. You need a camera. It's widespread and 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: the rest of the world, so it's coming. Arguments against it, 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: and I heard this and talk back with Matt and 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: Tyler yesterday. Arguments against it include the claim that storing 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: the images are expensive, but anyone who has a home 124 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: camera knows there's a ton of storage in every twenty 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: dollars mini SD card. Now the whole thing won't be cheap, 126 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: but nor will it be expensive. But here's the question 127 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: for you. Is now the time to spend money on 128 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: tech rather than using the police budget on feet on 129 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: the beat. I don't think so, but provision for it 130 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: must be in the budgets in the future. It is 131 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: five point thirteen. So the polls. I'll have some words 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: about the polls a bit later on. I think it's 133 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: the wrong time for polls when we're eighteen months away 134 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: from an election, but there and the talk is about 135 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: how the Prime Minister is not cutting it or not 136 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: getting through, not getting his message across, not being liked. 137 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: And we'll talk about this in a few moments time 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: with a fellow who is a professor of marketing at 139 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: the University of Auckland. This is News Talks, heb It 140 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: is coming up fourteen after five. 141 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 142 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple. 143 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Youth Talk. 144 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: Said be werena Taxpayer's Union Courier poll yesterday and it 145 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: showed that the National Party have fallen behind Labor in 146 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: popularity it's only half a percent though, But the interesting 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: thing in a way was that Chris Hipkins is above 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: Christopher Luxen for preferred Prime Minister. So I'm joined now 149 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: by Auckland University Associate Professor of Marketing, Michael Lee. Michael, 150 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: good morning to you. 151 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, Mike. 152 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: What's your reading of the PM's communication style, because people 153 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: are saying that he's not cutting through. 154 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 8: I think I've heard some of the interviews where you've 155 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 8: had a little game of cat and mouse with him, 156 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 8: trying to get him to commit to something. And you know, 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 8: for the most part, he's pretty good when he knows 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 8: what he wants to say. But I think what he 159 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 8: gets a bit stick He is obviously when he's been 160 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 8: pressed for something that he's clearly keen not to give 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 8: a definitive answer for, and then he comes across a 162 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 8: little bit evasive sometimes, and I think that's probably what's 163 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 8: happening people. I think, why don't you just answer the question, well. 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Is he too married to bullet points from his prep? 165 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Sorry? 166 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 9: What was that? 167 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: Is he too married to the bullet points that he's prepared? 168 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, that could be a stick to what you want 169 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 8: to say and don't get pressed into engaging in any 170 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 8: conversation that you're not comfortable answering. I think that does 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 8: come across. 172 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: But you see, the thing is, if you're going to 173 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: say something, you have to say it like you believe it, 174 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: and therefore you should be able to say it immediately. 175 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. And so what we see is the points 176 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 8: that he's comfortable talking to, he can be quite decisive 177 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 8: and comes across quite strong. But then when you catch 178 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 8: him on something that he's not clear about or does 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 8: not want to engage in the conversation, then he becomes 180 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 8: very evasive. 181 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 9: Yeah. 182 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's the difficulty about being the Prime minister. You 183 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: have to be the spokesperson on everything and you have 184 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: to be across everything. So I would say that there 185 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: are people in the back benches of the National Party 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: who would like to see him polling a bit higher. 187 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: What could he do to improve. 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 8: Well, a couple of the things that you've caught him on, 189 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 8: like the whether or not there is a deal for 190 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 8: the theory and whether or not he would sack that chat. 191 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 8: He could have answered with something like you know, if 192 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 8: it depends or maybe or I've had to look into that, 193 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 8: or there are circumstances that I'm not on top of 194 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 8: right now that I would have to get back to you. 195 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 8: So there are ways of answering that shows that, look, 196 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 8: he would like to answer, but he doesn't want to 197 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 8: answer in a way that you know, would get him 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 8: in trouble or the other person in trouble later on. 199 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 8: So I think there's a reason why he can answer. 200 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 8: The issue is that he's just giving you the same 201 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 8: response over and over again, and that's getting frustrating for 202 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 8: both of you, and obviously the listeners can probably share 203 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 8: their evasiveness going. 204 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: On absolutely, Thank you so much, Mike Lee, who I 205 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: think thinks I might be called Mike. It is five 206 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: eighteen NEWSTALKSB. Who is Mark Canney. He's come out like 207 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: a horse out of the gate. He's the new Prime 208 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: Minister of Canada. We'll talk about Matt Canney in the Modent. 209 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's 210 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your 211 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Property Surge Simple if you've talked sidby. 212 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: By twenty one, Canada has a new prime minister. His 213 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 3: name is Mac Canney and the Liberals love him. He 214 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: got eighty five percent of the vote and In his 215 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: acceptance speech, he promised to win the trade war. 216 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 7: My government will keep our tariffs on until the Americans 217 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 7: show us respect. But Canadians are always ready when someone 218 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 7: else drops the gloves. So any Americans, they should make 219 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 7: no mistake in trade. As in hockey, Canada will win. 220 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: I tink talk Washington. Bureac chief for The Guardian is 221 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: David Smith, who joins me now. 222 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Hello, David, good morning. 223 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: So first, Matt Canney. Who is he? He's never been 224 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: elected before. 225 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: That's right, yeah, only a limited political background. He actually 226 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: started at Harvard University studying economics. He had thirteen years 227 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: at Goldman Sachs, so big financial resume. He became Governor 228 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 4: of the Bank of Canada and then for British people 229 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: like me, we became familiar with him as a governor 230 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: of the Bank of England and he was dealing with 231 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: the tumult of Brexit, Britain's departure from the European Union. 232 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: And then he went on to be a UN Special 233 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: Envoy for Climate Action and Finance, worked for an investment firm, 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: and it was just September of last year he became 235 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: the chair of Canadian Liberal Party's Task Force on economic growth, 236 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: and now suddenly he's the leader of the Liberal Party 237 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: and goings to the Canadian Prime Minister. So in that sense, 238 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: it's a meteoric rise after a long career mainly in 239 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: finance and banking. 240 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: Yes, but it's a magnificent CV, you have to say. 241 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: And he's coming with great confidence, you have to say 242 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: as well, because he went hard for Donald Trump right 243 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: from the start. So what's the reaction to that being. 244 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: Like, you know, it was striking the way Carne really 245 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: laid down the law in terms of his response to 246 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: Trump's tariffs and especially this strange notion Trump has been 247 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: floating of Canada becoming the fifty first state of the 248 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: US and Carlie made clear that is absolutely not going 249 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: to happen. And I would say, so far the reaction 250 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: in the US has been relatively muted, and perhaps that's 251 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: the biggest then insult of all they can throw at Canada. 252 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: You've not seen Trump unleashing a barrage of social media 253 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: posts or you know, not graciously welcoming the new leader. 254 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: And we haven't heard much from senators or representatives either. 255 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: Obviously this this news is being reported in the US media, 256 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, there's actually not been a great deal of 257 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: political reactions so far, which which maybe tells you sadly 258 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: where where Canada US relations are and how it's not 259 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: seen as a as a huge priority in Washington. 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 9: No. 261 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: But at the same time, this, this has seems to 262 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: be the way to actually approach Donald Trump. When he 263 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: does his bluster, you bluster him by. 264 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 9: Yeah. 265 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: And we've got this fascinating role call of world leaders 266 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: so far, all trying to figure out how do you 267 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: handle Donald Trump? And just for example, for a couple 268 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: of weeks ago, I was covering the visits of Immanuel 269 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: Macron of France and Kirs Starmer of Britain, and both 270 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: of them really used a carrot and stick. They gave 271 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: Trump a lot of flattery and people say, you know, 272 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: it's like giving candy to a child. And and then, 273 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: and obviously Kiir Starmer produced a letter inviting Trump for 274 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: a state visit with King Charles. But then on the 275 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: other hand, there were moments when both Macron and Starmer 276 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: stood up to Trump and corrected him on a shoes 277 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: such as European funding of the war in Ukraine. And 278 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: then of course we saw a very different approach from 279 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: President Zelenski of Ukraine challenging Trump and the JD Evans, 280 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: the Vice President in the Oval office, and that unraveled 281 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: and turned off a sour and ended up in a 282 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: in a shouting match. Then another example is the president 283 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: of Mexico has been has been firm with Trump, and 284 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: that seems to be working for her so far. We 285 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: also have to see how Carmey plays this and for example, 286 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: does he push back hard if Trump tries to call 287 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: him the governor, Yeah, applying that there should be an 288 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: American province. You know, he may early on want to 289 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: draw a line there and say, you know, no, do 290 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: not address me as that. 291 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: No, indeed, David Smith, I thank you so much to 292 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: the Washington bureau chief for The Guardian. It's News Talks 293 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: it B. It's five twenty. 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Six, the early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio 295 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: powered by News. 296 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 7: Talks it Be. 297 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: It's News Talks It B. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. 298 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: It's five twenty seven. So another poll, a couple of them, actually, 299 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: the Textpayer Courier poll. We also got research from Horizon 300 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: and all the stuff just says we're not happy with 301 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: the country right now. Therefore, We're not happy with the government, 302 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: no kidding, and things have not been good for a 303 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: while now. No matter who was in power, a correction 304 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: was needed. Economically, we swamp the nation with cash at 305 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: the start of the pandemic unnecessarily, we can now say 306 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: with hindsight, and then as we paid the price, it's 307 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: not be nice. So the government is going to be 308 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: on the back foot no matter who they are. I 309 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: actually think the surprising thing about this poll is how 310 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: well the coalition support is holding up. Sure Luxon has 311 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: his problem, Sure Seymour and Peters say the most triggering things, 312 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: knowing that there's a bunch of people who love it. 313 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: But are the opposition talking any sense at all? Are 314 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: they acting like they do any better? I went searching 315 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: for policy from Labor. Chris Hipkins over the weekend played 316 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: kg with his party's positions. When asked about the capital 317 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: gains tax, he prevaricated and then talked cryptically about tax reforms. 318 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: What does this mean? Is that what you're voting for? 319 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: That's about all the policy talk I can rustle up 320 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: from Labor. The Greens of the Bownary Party appear to 321 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: still be on holiday. So all this poll says is 322 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: that our blocks are evenly matched in tribal terms. And 323 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: the trick will be the swinging voters who vote, of 324 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: course for self interest, and they'll do that in eighteen 325 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: months time. So let's see what things are like in 326 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: eighteen months time. A poll at this time is like 327 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: some small talk at a party, but the party hasn't 328 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: even started yet, Dickens, I'd rather they didn't have polls 329 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: now in the midterm, and so we could just get 330 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: concentrated on the policies and figure out how we feel 331 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: and then see how many other people feel the way 332 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: we feel later when we get closer to the election. 333 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: But there we go. 334 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: You're loving Marc Conney. I have to say Trump finally 335 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: met his match, says the Texter won't bow down to 336 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: him exactly. Now it's all about India in the next 337 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: half hour. This is early edition and this is news 338 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 3: Talks hit b. 339 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: Hell you. 340 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the early edition with one roof to 341 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: make your property search simple, youth talk hippy. 342 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 10: Already, So final good or to find well? 343 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 11: Good by? 344 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 12: Did to you? 345 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm Andrew Dickins and for Ryan Bridge. 346 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: Ryan's back on the show and a month from today, 347 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: which means that Heather will be back in her show 348 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 3: a month from today. The Prime Minister, the Prome Minister, 349 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 3: is on his way to India to talk business. 350 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 9: Now. 351 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: I hope he's got a very nice lightweight linen suit, 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: because India at the moment is hot. Summer in the 353 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: dry season starts in March. This year has come early. 354 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: The subcontinent is already sweltering. And I know this because 355 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: I know people in India at the moment. This past 356 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: weekend saw the Lolapalooza music festival come to Mumbai as 357 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: Western record companies realize there's a huge untapped market in India. 358 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: So people like Sure Mendias and Green Day were playing there. 359 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: And there's a New Zealand contingent there and they're posting 360 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: about the heat and the energy of the new India. 361 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: Apparently it's quite breathtaking. The place is booming. The kids 362 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: are kids, and they're into their rock and roll and 363 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: they're they're wealthy, and it is good that the Prime 364 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: Minister is continuing our push into this booming economy. But 365 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: I've got a word of warning about India for the 366 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: New Zealand position, because our nuclear free stands does not 367 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: go down well in India. They have ambitions to be 368 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: in the super Club of nuclear nations. So that's going 369 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: to be a tricky road for the Prime Minister. But 370 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: I hope he's all ready to navigate it and I 371 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 3: hope for great success. And we'll talk more about this 372 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: in about fifteen minutes time with the chair of the 373 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: Indian New Zealand Business Council. Did you know we only 374 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: export India is one point five percent of our exports. 375 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: That's nothing. Yet this is going to be the third 376 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 3: largest economy in the world very shortly. So that interview 377 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: just before six o'clock. Got a text from Simon Already 378 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: who says, Andrew, we let India win the cricket so 379 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: we should be quids in. That's great thinking. Twenty two 380 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: to six Andrew dickins, we're around the country right now, 381 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: and Callum Procter joins us from Duneedan Heller. Callum, morning, Andrew. 382 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: The trial into the bus hub stabbing continues. 383 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, the court has heard that the teen accused of 384 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 13: murdering a sixteen year old had adopted gangster ways and 385 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 13: the lead up to the fatal attack. The now fourteen 386 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 13: year olds on trial here following the death of anner 387 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 13: Tana McLaren at the bus hub last May. He's pleaded 388 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 13: not guilty on the basis of self defense. Forensic psychiatrist 389 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 13: Brendan Strange told the court that the accused outlook changed 390 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 13: drastically after being targeted in a violent robbery himself in 391 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 13: twenty twenty three. Strange says that led him to watching 392 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 13: fight videos and carrying a knife to feel safer, and 393 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 13: the last of the evidence is expected to be presented tomorrow. 394 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 3: How's her weather? 395 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 8: Rain? 396 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 13: Heavy thundering with haile this afternoon, gale force southwesterlies and 397 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 13: twenty one yikes. 398 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: Okay, clais Hereberd from CRASIA tell Claire, good morning. So 399 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: the rebuild of the schools, that program is going to 400 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: be completed by twenty twenty eight. 401 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 14: Well, yes, finally we have a date, but this has 402 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 14: been pushed out multiple times now, Andrew. As you know, 403 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 14: the christ Church School rebuild program was launched twelve years ago, 404 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 14: back in twenty thirteen. It was meant to finish in 405 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 14: twenty twenty. We now know that will be twenty twenty eight. 406 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 14: The government spending one point six five billion dollars on 407 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 14: repairing or rebuilding one hundred and fifteen quake impacted schools. 408 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 14: News talks EDB can confirm one hundred of them have 409 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 14: been refurbished or rebuilt. A further eleven are under construction, 410 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 14: three in the planning phase, one yet to even enter 411 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 14: the program. Education Minister Erica Stanford says it is making 412 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 14: strong progress and eight projects are set to be completed 413 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 14: by the end of this year. She's laid out four 414 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 14: priorities to the ministry in order to ensure the projects 415 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 14: are delivered within her time frame. 416 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: How's your weather fine? 417 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 14: Aside from some evening cloud later Northwesterlys, the high should 418 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 14: be twenty. 419 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: Five, Max told joins us from Wellington Hellimax. 420 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: Good morning. 421 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: So a waterfront death found to be preventable. 422 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, every few years someone falls into the harbor and dies, 423 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: more often than not in time. Oxication is a primary cause, 424 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: and so every few years we debate waterfront safety and 425 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: it's balanced with esthetics, the look of the waterfront. The 426 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: body of thirty year old Sandy Culkin was pulled from 427 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: the water in twenty twenty one. A new coroner's report 428 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: has found the city council had not heeded previous incidents 429 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: and warnings, and therefore that death could have been prevented. 430 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: More recently, the council has been spending money installing fencing 431 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: around the water's edge. A lot of people have been 432 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: commenting thinking it looks ugly. A handful of councilors don't 433 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: like it either, but it's not their time right now. 434 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: Calcin had been on the night on a night out 435 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: with friends, had left Courtney Place, walked along the waterfront 436 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: heading for the train station. No one saw him fall 437 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: in in twenty twenty one, but at some point he 438 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: must have stumbled or tripped or swayed into the water. 439 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: There's a bit of a drop off at several points, 440 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: as well of a couple of meters some rocky areas below. 441 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: The council also criticized in this coroner's report for really 442 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: bad record keeping AI. It's not been noting accidents near 443 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: missus or even how many deaths there have been. We 444 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: rely on media archives. 445 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather? 446 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: It should be mostly fine, partly cloudy twenty one the 447 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: high central. 448 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 3: Good day for a walk on the waterfront. Keep away 449 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 3: from the edge. Now to awkam we Go Neiva Retamanu 450 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: good morning. The people that Birkinghead will be happy because 451 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: apparently AT wants to improve only one. 452 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 15: Road, correct, I tell you. So what's happening is that 453 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 15: they're proposing changes to this north shore road that everyone 454 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 15: here in Auckland is probably well familiar with, including a 455 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 15: shared path for pedestrian cyclists and e scooter users. Let's 456 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 15: see how that goes. So it also wants to improve 457 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 15: pedestrian crossing technology and also a Q detection system. Now 458 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 15: AT they're wanting feedback on this proposal for the road. 459 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 15: This road obviously carries a lot thirty thousand vehicles a day. 460 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 15: Richard Hills, he's the local councilor. He says, look, it's 461 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 15: important get this that AT and elected representatives. They're not 462 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 15: the only ones making the decisions. So there you have it, 463 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 15: you'll say. 464 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: And move on to Lake Road. Please. Now how's Hawkin's weather? 465 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 15: Fine car developing this evening. We've got to high twenty 466 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 15: four today. 467 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: And I thank you. It is now seventeen minutes to six. 468 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: We're off to Australia in a few moments time. Of course, 469 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: they've had the big floods that had the big rain. 470 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: Of course, what happens next the insurance claims and already 471 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: this argi bardi about it. Donna Tomayo is next here 472 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: on Newstalk's het. 473 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: B International Correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance, peace of 474 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 475 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: What's mistake with our trip to India? That story is 476 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: just moments away. This is Newstalk's HEBB is a quarter 477 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: to six and we're joined by Donna Tomoro from Australia. 478 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: How are Donna, hey, hey, doing very good? We'll start 479 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: with this fake terror plot and fourteen people arrested. 480 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 12: Yes, well, authorities were alerted to a tip off of 481 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 12: a suspicious caravan at a rural property in your South Wales. 482 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 12: This is in January and police discovered it was filled 483 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 12: with both explosives and a note referencing the Great Jewish Sine. 484 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 12: Now we hear from the Australian Federal Police that they 485 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 12: were confident at the time, quite quite early on that 486 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 12: it was a fabricated terrorist plot. It's a little bit complex, 487 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 12: but basically it was a criminal conjob, according to police, 488 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 12: and it was an elaborate scheme contrived by organized criminals 489 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 12: domestically and offshore. Basically they were trying to create leverage 490 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 12: or leverage information to that's according to the Commissioner. Yes, 491 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 12: it's the plot literally thickens so but the police have 492 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 12: also said that regardless of the motivation of those responsible 493 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 12: for the fake plot, it has had a chilling effect 494 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 12: on the Jewish community. And we heard it was confirmed 495 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 12: that fourteen arrests were made. They're facing forty nine charges 496 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 12: these people. But police have also confirmed that the person 497 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 12: alleged to have been pulling all the strings behind the 498 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 12: plot has not yet been arrested. 499 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting, and we have pologize for the Internet 500 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: dropouts during that little bit. Let's move to another story. 501 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is criticizing insurance companies after the flooding. 502 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 12: Yes, well we know that there's been heavy rain, wild 503 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 12: winds and now flood damage from all since extropical cycling. 504 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 12: After cross the landfall across the weekend, the PM is 505 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 12: now saying that insurance companies are ripping off Australians and 506 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 12: he says that in the wake of the extropical cycling, 507 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 12: now it's a chance for them to repair their reputations. 508 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 12: And so the PM says, yes, you know, he does 509 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 12: believe that insurance companies have plenty of money. They're ripping 510 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 12: Australians off, and we know that there've been doubling premiums 511 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 12: in recent years. In fact, there was an inquiry after 512 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 12: major flooding in Queensland and northern New South Wales in 513 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 12: twenty twenty two, and what did it conclude? While there 514 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 12: were too many insurance cases that were badly mishandled by insurers, 515 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 12: that they inconsistently offered support, and that more than two 516 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 12: years on many people still had been unable to go home. 517 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 12: So let's see what happens after this disaster. 518 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: Jnand Tomo, I thank you. It is now twelve to six. 519 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: So the Prime Minister's just announced he's off to India. 520 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: He's going on Saturday and he's going to meet Prime 521 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: Minister Noendra Modi. He's taking the largest delegation our Prime 522 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: minister has ever traveled with. This is the first visit 523 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 3: since John Key went there in twenty sixteen. I think 524 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: this is the third visit that we've had a crack 525 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: at this. So Baratchala is the chair of the India 526 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: New Zealand Business Council. He joins me, Now hell about it? Hey, 527 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: Hell are you very good. Why is this trip so significant? 528 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 9: I think if you want something done with India, this 529 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 9: would been a strong foundation taking ahead any discussion, any 530 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 9: negotiation with India. 531 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: Okay, So look, only one point five percent of New 532 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 3: Zealand exports go to India. India's on track to be 533 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: the third largest economy in the world by twenty thirteen. 534 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: Why have we been neglecting this market for so long? 535 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 9: I think this question has to be asked from a 536 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 9: lot of ministries and political diplomats. It has not been neglected. 537 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 9: It's just a timing was not there. I feel that 538 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 9: the last government with a lot less after twenty sixteen 539 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 9: and that has made us into a kind of a 540 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 9: back seat. But last twelve months with the current government 541 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 9: and the ministry is going left right center, which is 542 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 9: kind of bringing the things on track. So we can 543 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 9: say that we are late, but we are not too late. 544 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 545 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: So what do we have to do in this trip 546 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 3: to make sure that our relationship is closer that we 547 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: can increase our terms of trade. 548 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 9: I think one thing which we can say, or we 549 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 9: can kind of positive say that the meeting with Primnes 550 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 9: Mode is kind of a big win, which we were 551 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 9: at MCBC asking from last since a few years now 552 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 9: getting to a with a bigger delegation show that we 553 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 9: are in a relationship mode. We are not only in 554 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 9: a transitional mode. So this trip kind of gives a 555 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 9: very good message to inan government and the private companies 556 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 9: in India that Newism is open for business and we 557 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 9: should be looked into. 558 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 3: What do you think India wants from us? I mean, 559 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: what do we make that they will want? 560 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 9: I think the biggest thing India is looking currently is 561 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 9: investment in India at the same time bringing technology in 562 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 9: India and kind of bringing what they see that helped 563 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 9: to grow India. So currently in every negotiation and every 564 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 9: deal which India is doing, they've been always putting that 565 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 9: how India can grow together with you and that will 566 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 9: help us to grow or grow the other side of 567 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 9: the business too. So what we can do is we 568 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 9: take the investments we talk about the technology transfers. There's 569 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 9: a lot needs and can give to India. 570 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: Is a nuclear free stance a problem because India has 571 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: ambitions for their place in the world militarily, they're already 572 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: a nuclear power. Is our stance on nuclear energy and power? 573 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: Is there a problem when we talk to the Prime 574 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: Minister of India. 575 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 9: I think I don't see that is kind of an 576 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 9: issue with NISIM only because like every country has their 577 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 9: own chance and to be honest news and should say 578 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 9: what they be, what we want to do. But in 579 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 9: a couple of things, India also don't want any anything 580 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 9: which is from a news in perspective that they want 581 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 9: needs in to support on everything. But again at the 582 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 9: trade is one area we talk about. I said, a 583 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 9: nuclear diplomacy is separate area to work in. There's always 584 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 9: kind of a common area to start in. Uh and 585 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 9: we are not too in that discussion of a kind 586 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 9: of nuclear diplomacy yet I can say that. 587 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So how confident are you of success? 588 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 9: Finally, I think I think from my we are we 589 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 9: are a lot positive, a lot optimistic. Now a lot 590 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 9: have been done by a lot of companies from New 591 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 9: Zealand to India or in India and last twenty four 592 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 9: months to make this happen. So this is a perfect 593 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 9: opportunity and a perfect I say that TAILWND for New 594 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 9: Zealand to get something from India. 595 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Bartatala, I thank you so much for your town here. 596 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: As the chair of the India and New Zealand Business Council, 597 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: and it is good to hear that both sides are 598 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: so keen to further the relationships with both sides. Mark 599 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: sent me a text saying, well, India's already in nuclear power. 600 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: The best thing we can do is engage with the India. 601 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: More is actually to understand the diaspora, use them as 602 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: a bridge. And of course they are ten percent of 603 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: the Augan population. The average age of India, Mark says, 604 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: and he's right is twenty eight. They're young, and they're thriving, 605 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: and they're ambitious. One point four billion people there. 606 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 9: Wow. 607 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: And Mark reckon is the way to think about India 608 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: is Europe because there are many cultures of many climates, 609 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: but there is one country with a common story, set 610 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: of values that can get on well with New Zealand. 611 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for your text, Mark newstorlks B. It is 612 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: seven to. 613 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Six the news you need this morning and the in 614 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: depth analysis early edition were Andrew Dickens and one roof 615 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Make Your Property Search Simple News Talk. 616 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: Said be five to six. Mike Hoskin joins me ever. 617 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 16: Been to India and never never been to India, ever 618 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 16: had a desire to go to India. No, not particularly really, well, 619 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 16: you talk to cricketers about it. But having said that, 620 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 16: really interesting thing I read the other day and you 621 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 16: talked about their population. People misunderstand their population. There's only 622 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 16: one hundred and twenty million people who have got any money. 623 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 16: So they've just done the study the other day, and 624 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 16: there's what they would call, and Luxton referred to it 625 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 16: yesterday as the burgeoning middle class, and there's about four 626 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 16: or five hundred million of those, but they're very reluctant 627 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 16: to spend because they've never had any money and they 628 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 16: don't know what to do with it. So there's one 629 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 16: hundred and twenty million people who are wealthy, and so 630 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 16: those are the people. Really that's just the size of Mexico. 631 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 16: So those are the people you're aiming for them, very 632 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 16: very wealthy, very very wealthy. And so the rich are 633 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 16: getting richer, and that middle class isn't necessarily growing, and 634 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 16: the ones that are growing don't know what to do 635 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 16: with their money, so they're what they call reluctant consumers. 636 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 16: Which is not to say we shouldn't go to India 637 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 16: and cross trade deal, but nevertheless, it's not quite as 638 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 16: big as people make it out to be. And the 639 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 16: other thing, of course, is the reason we've never done 640 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 16: it properly is because they've got a major issue with 641 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 16: agriculture and dairy and they don't want to do free 642 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 16: trade for obvious reasons. So I don't know what we're doing. 643 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 16: It also comes across against the backdrop, of course, at 644 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 16: the moment that free trades dead in the world, really, 645 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 16: and so we're doing That's why he was talking yesterday 646 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 16: about doing more of a good trade deal. I don't 647 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 16: know who's opposed to a great one. 648 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, actually Paige, but he's 649 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: in the music business. He's over there at the moment 650 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: of Mumbai. He's gone over for a lot of palooza 651 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: because of course now they're doing rocks festivals there because 652 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: suddenly the middle class ones rock and roll. Well, he said, 653 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: the whole thing. The best thing about Mumbai was just 654 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: how modern it was, how good it was, how organized 655 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: it was, how lovely it was Pristine's city. But also 656 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: it's extraordinarily hot. 657 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 16: That's about it. We're talking to the head of the 658 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 16: delegation to rees Walsh, Dame to rees Walsh, and so 659 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 16: I can't work out whether it's large just because India 660 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 16: is large, or because you do that thing whereby you 661 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 16: turn up with the whole planeload of people and go 662 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 16: look at all the people we've brought. 663 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: Something about throwing stuff on a wall could be that. 664 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 16: So anyway, and wall sexy. It's not only who but 665 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 16: Prime Minister Tuesday very. 666 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: Good and I thank you, and I thank producer Kensey 667 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: for putting together the show and Tyler for setting it up. 668 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 3: But my name's Andrew Dickens and I'll see you again tomorrow. 669 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 11: Have a productive day. 670 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 671 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 672 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio