1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Deborah Lambeas of Milford Asset Management. Hey, Deborah, Hi, how 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: are you very well? Thank you. Listen. One thing that 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about in the community at the 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: moment is aging populations. Do you get the impression investors 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: in thinking about this as well? 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, the rise of aging populations around the world 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: is one of the most significant demographic shifts in modern history. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: So here in New Zealand, the proportion of people aged 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: over sixty five is expected to almost double by twenty fifty, 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: and globally we see similar trends. So the number of 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: people aged over sixty is expeded to double and the 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: number of people aged over eighty is expeded to triple 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: by twenty fifty. And investors are increasingly focused on the 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: implications of this, given that on average, twenty five percent 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: of total healthcare spend occurs in the last ten years 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: of life of an individual and around ten percent in 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: the final year of life. So aging populations simultaneously placed 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: immense pressure on healthcare systems and create substantial opportunities for 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: companies that provide critical services. Due to increasing demands medicine, 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: hospital care, and death care services are. 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: There many businesses many companies who are actually talking about 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: how this aging population trend will impact them. 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll maybe give you three three examples. So 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: HCA operates over one hundred and eighty hospitals in the 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: US and it's expecting total spend in hospitals to accelerate 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: to around six percent per year over the next decade. 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: So in other words, that means that it will have 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: almost doubled its revenue in ten years time. Another example 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: is AstraZeneca, which is a global pharmaceutical company, and it 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: expects global demands of pharmaceuticals to accelerate from around four 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: percent growth per year to around six percent. And a 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: final interesting example is Service Corp, which is a death 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: care provider in the US and they operate in the funeral, 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: cremation and cemetery space. And so when I met with 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: the company earlier in the year in the US, they 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: were talking about expecting an increase in volumes for a 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: decade and a half and that's driven by the first 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: baby boomers reaching eighty years old starting from twenty twenty six. 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: So this is a bit of a morbid topic. But 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: as they say, nothing is third in this life apart 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: from death and taxes. 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: That's true, I suppose when it comes to how they're 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: performing on the market. How are these companies who are 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: in healthcare and death care fearing when you compare them 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: to a let's say, the high growth sectors like AI. 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so when companies like Nvidia Day have absolutely soar 47 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: due to the AI boom, the more steady returns from 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: healthcare and death ke sectors are still actually highly respectable, 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: especially in this more defensive part of the market. So 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Astrosenic and Service Corps shares have delivered a respectable low 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: double digit percentage return on average over the past five years, 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: and HHA has been even more impressive, delivering an average 53 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: twenty five percent return per year over the past five years. 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: And then what about the workers in healthcare? How are 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: the how's the agent population going to affect them? 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? So, in addition to increasing demand for healthcare, aging 57 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: populations of course reduced the pool of working age people. 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: So this means we have less work to do the 59 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: work that we're currently doing, and we're going to have 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: more of that work. So companies are looking for solutions 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: and things like automation and robotics, and this is leading 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: to advances and things like automated pharmacies, and these work 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: via robots that can scan a QR copra of prescription, 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: get the medicines that have been prescribed to spense them, 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: and then while you can pick up your prescription, no 66 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: humans required. And a company called Becton Dickinson is the 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: global leader here. And then we're also seeing very rapid 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: advances and things like laboratory automation, which is greatly increasing 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: the efficiency of the way that lads run. 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, is this happening in other sectors as well. 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Yes, So as the pool of working age people shrinks, 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: sectors ranging all the way from manufacturing through to logistics 73 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: are increasingly turning to automation to fill the gap and 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: maintain productivity. So, for example, robotic density and manufacturing has 75 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: doubled over the past six years and has increased set 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: to increase further. And so robots greatly increase the productivity 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: of factories. They keep workers and safer by literally taking 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: the load of heavy lifting, and they also reduce the 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: number of people required in the factory. So these are 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: just a few examples of ways that companies are innovating 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: to help with solutions that develop nations require as they 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: face shrinking workforces and aging populations. 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Debra, Listen, that's fascinating. Thank you so much. I really 84 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: appreciated the Zebra Lambie Milford Asset Management. 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