1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior Political Correspondents with us Allo barrat Good Afternoon. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Heather so Seymour as the PM again today and. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Does he love it in the house. I mean he 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: revels in it and today was no exception. He clearly 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: had lined up a series of patsy questions as he 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: always does from his MP Simon Court, and fared off 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: an interjection from Labor about his own pet projects school lunches, 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: which filled him with glee. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: We are delivering a healthy school lunch program at half 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: the price that they did and having the same percentage 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: of lunches sent back, which suggests the quality is the 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: same for half the price. If they had thought like 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: that a little bit more when they were in government, 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: maybe there'd be a bit more money to go around 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: in New Zealand right now. But sadly they didn't, and 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: that's why we've got to keep them over there and 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: these good people over here so it doesn't happen to 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: New Zealander's finances again. How is the government preparing for 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: potential downstream impacts of the Middle East conflict? Speaker, We've 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: just heard from Willie Jackson. We're doing nothing and I 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: can only imagine that he is relating what he did 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: when he was in government, as Shakespeare once said, measuring 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: the minds of others by his own. And in Willie 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Jackson's case, you don't need a very long ruler to 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: make that measurement. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: That's to speaker, not a bad line, I'll tell you. You know, 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: it's funny to watch the body language of the Seymour 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: when he stands in for the Prime Minister. He really 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 2: does love it. And you know, maybe he can see 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: way down the track in the future. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, who knows what can he see? Bearing Well, I. 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Mean I don't think he will. But being change parties. 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Tell me what, how did the Greens housing policy from 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: use today land? 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it. Because they're 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: promising to legislation to limit rent rises at two percent 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: a year, and you know that's the old rent cap. 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: There'll be no cause of actions would be scrapped, so 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: if you don't have a reason to get rid of somebody, 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: then you're not allowed to move them on. There'll be 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: a rental warrant of fitness and a register of landlords 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: and property managers introduced them. You know, I don't mind 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: the property manager thing, having had one myself in the past, 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: investing in public housing and ending homelessness would be increased, 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: so they say. Now, the launch of the policy was 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: made at a Wellington rental by Madame and Davison, the 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: co leader, and by the local MP, Tamotha Paul. Now 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: it was Tamotha Paul who was at that launch and 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: she basically asked asking questions of the Associate Minister Tom Poltucker, 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: who says rental increases are now almost flat. 51 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: Lighting prints up just under one percent in the year 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: January to twenty twenty six, which is lower than inflation. 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 4: But what we definitely won't do is start going around 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: putting rent controls on everyone. 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: What evidence does he have that rent controls would do 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: anything other than put a limit on rents that New 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Zealanders already can't afford. 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: How many cities need to try and fail it solving 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: their rental challenges through rent controls for the Greens to 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: learn rent controls don't work. The Green's housing plant in 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: general make the housing market and you telling much worse. 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Hey, did you see speaking of will I'm slightly related. 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Did you see what they're charging the rate payers? In 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: your old stomping ground of Gore. 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: Well did I what? And I thought, you know, I 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: have never been a rate payer in Gora, unfortunately, because 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: it's a lovely little town. But by goodness, is it 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: going to cost a lot to live there. The Taxpayers 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 2: Union see it as a bit of a cause celeb 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: and of course the mayor and Gore is that young fellow. 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Now they've already endured, according to the Taxpayer's Union, of 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: forty six point six percent cumulative rate rise over the 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: past three years. That's massive, that's rough man. And then 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: just this week the councilors sat down and they approved, 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: without any consultation with the public, an eleven percent rate rise. 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible this little town, the one that 78 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: I grew up and is becoming awfully expensive. 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Spending the money on Barry Well, that's a very good point. 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you go away and figure it out and 81 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: come back and tell us tomorrow. 82 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. They should talk to the 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: Taxpayer's Union, because they've written a report one hundred and 84 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: three ways to save money in local government. Now they've 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: given examples of how you cut your cloth, and maybe 86 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: they should be required reading for the Gore. 87 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Council because didn't they didn't They plant some trees and 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: it cost a huge amount of money and then they 89 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: ripped the trees out again. 90 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: Something like that. They had the Bob Jones fish I 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: think done up at one stage as well. 92 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: There was a different here. 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: Threw a. 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Blame Gore for it. Yeah, that's that's what you have 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: to do tomorrow, is you have to go go away 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: and find out what profligacy profligacy is going on in 97 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Gore so we can understand why the child child mayor 98 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: is spending all this money. 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: I'll wring me old mates down there. 100 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Good on you, Barry, Thanks very much, Barry so for 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: senior political correspondent. 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 103 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 4: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio