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Speaker 2: Helly Great New Zealanders and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Afternoon's full show podcast number sixty nine for the eighteenth

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Speaker 2: of February twenty twenty five. Big show today, burg chat

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Speaker 2: on peacekeeping in the Ukraine and with the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: should be there. Yeah, some heated discussions, some back and forth,

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Speaker 2: but it was a fantastic chat and then we finished

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Speaker 2: up with some feel good stuff around families. So I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give that show ten out of ten.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I would agree. Actually, fantastic show And for sixty nine,

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Speaker 2: Yep. You want your sixty nine's to be ten out

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Speaker 5: for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie and Taylor Adams

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Speaker 5: Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty on News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Said B, Good afternoon, Welcome into the show. Seven pass one.

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Speaker 4: Do hope you having a great afternoon? Shoes take it.

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Speaker 2: At Maddy Good eh, Tyler, It's a beautiful dayn't it

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Speaker 2: it is. It's a beautiful day in and out. It's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful day for sitting in here doing some radio

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Speaker 2: and read it ago.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is well on to that after three thirty

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Speaker 4: honesty boxes on the back of a pretty terrible story

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Speaker 4: about an honesty box that was dug up, ripped off

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Speaker 4: and stolen. Is that just the lowest of the low?

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Speaker 2: Should they just set up honesty boxes as traps so

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Speaker 2: if people steal from them it automatically tases you or something. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And for stealing an entire honesty box, are you the

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Speaker 2: most dishonest person in the whole country? If you steal

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Speaker 2: the dig up and steal the entire honesty box, You're

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Speaker 2: not just taking a few nicktarenes, You're taking the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Are you New Zealand's worst person?

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. You beg on tasering people at the moment.

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Speaker 4: I like it. I like it, but that is after

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Speaker 4: three thirty, after three o'clock eating dinner at the table

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Speaker 4: or eating it on your lap watching TV.

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Speaker 2: Your controversy on my costing breakfast today when Christoph Lux

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Speaker 2: and our Prime Minister said that him and his wife

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Speaker 2: eat their dinner on their laps watching TV.

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Speaker 4: Uncouth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know they don't have kids. But I

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Speaker 2: think it's very important if you've got kids to sit

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Speaker 2: talk together rather than sitting in a line on the

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Speaker 2: couches and arm chairs and just eating and watching. Surely

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Speaker 2: food should be enough of an entertainment. How entertained do

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Speaker 2: we need to be in life that a delicious meal

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Speaker 4: At the same time, beautifully said, that's going to be

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Speaker 4: a great discussion after three o'clock and after two o'clock

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Speaker 4: are we a nation of complainers? A bunch of stories

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Speaker 4: we've got in front of us right now says that

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Speaker 2: I mean this one that the main one that's shocking

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Speaker 2: seeking complaints bean near a rifle range because they want

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Speaker 2: move into a property near the rifle range. They're building

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Speaker 2: can't complain because we know what happens. People move into

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Speaker 4: So unreal, unreal, And it's on the back, of course

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Speaker 2: So on, yeah, on the Hosking breakfast this morning, you

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Speaker 6: Would you put peacekeepers on the ground in Ukraine?

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Speaker 7: Look, I mean I think we've got a long way

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Speaker 7: Actually we we with them training Ukrainian soldiers in the UK.

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Speaker 6: Why I ask the question, because that's what we do.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 7: We'd be open to that, would be open to it.

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Speaker 7: We've got a number of peacekeeping missions around the world.

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Speaker 7: But for us, we stand with the Ukraine. It's important,

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Speaker 7: actually that's why we have real affinity with Ukraine. But

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Speaker 2: So one hundred and eighty ten eighty, How do you

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Speaker 2: seems like quite an escalation for me. Yeah, it seems

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Speaker 2: that is interesting, isn't it. So we're in lockstep with

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Speaker 2: you're in lockstep with the Brits.

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Speaker 4: So a heck of a turn of phrase, and probably

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Speaker 4: an unhelpful turn of phrase, lockstep with the Brits.

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Speaker 2: But it probably sounds a little bit more full on

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to this particular conflict, and it

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Speaker 4: through what we've contributed so far in terms of funding

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Speaker 4: So that's already a heck of a lot of money

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Speaker 4: being contributed to this particular conflict. But having boots on

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 2: We do. We have been involved in terms of transporting

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Speaker 4: Yep, let's get into it. It is thirteen past one.

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Speaker 4: Very good afternoon, June sixteen past one. Our Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: Christopher Luxen is open to the idea of sending peacekeepers

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call. Some

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Speaker 4: great texts coming through on nine two ninety two. Gents, again,

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Speaker 4: always lively, always a mode of interesting. How it took

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Speaker 4: during World War Two, but they're happy to be there

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Speaker 4: in the beginning to destroy Europe for World War three, potentially,

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Speaker 4: As the New Zealand one evid says, the world is stuffed.

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Speaker 4: Let's all party more. Yeah, fair enough, dear text, if

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Speaker 4: you didn't say anything about should we get involved?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jason, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: New Zealand peacekeepers entering Ukraine.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, how's it going? I think it's probably the

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Speaker 10: stupidest idea I've heard this year so far, probably last

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Speaker 10: year as well. You know, Ukraine had a really good

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Speaker 10: And they shouldn't, you know, and they didn't want to

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Speaker 10: to join NATO because Ukraine will never be part of NATO,

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Speaker 10: just like you're not allowed to have nuclear weapons and

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Speaker 10: or missiles and Cuba. Ukraine's not allowed to be part

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Speaker 10: about it. That's Russia's line, and that's how it's going

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Speaker 10: to be. And they've got such sounds of nuclear weapons

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Speaker 10: that they can land anywhere in the world, and that's

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Speaker 10: just how it is. And so putting peacekeepers on the

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Speaker 10: ground is just another mass of escalation, will just increase

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Speaker 10: the chance of a tactical new getting used on the battlefield.

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Speaker 10: And the whole thing is such a brainless idea everybody

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Speaker 10: involved and it should be arrested, put in jail even

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Speaker 10: talking about it.

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Speaker 2: And since you talk about the NATO membership, but uk

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister kiostarma As was talking to l Zelensky and

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Speaker 2: he said the country is on an irreversible path to membership.

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Speaker 2: How does that pan out if if.

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Speaker 10: They're not on an irreversible path to membership, Because Ukraine

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Speaker 10: will be ten thousand degrees before it's a member of NATO.

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Speaker 10: That's fairly clearly obvious. The entire Russian elite class will

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Speaker 10: not allow. It's not just pertinent. All of Russia will

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Speaker 10: not allow NATO, the largest military alliance in the history

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Speaker 10: going to happen. He's been completely clear about that. Nothing's changed.

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Speaker 2: Just going to be to your first point, back that up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just to your first point, Jason, that it's a

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Speaker 10: Nobody, no one should have any part of a kastam

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Speaker 10: That they just lost twenty five percent of the country. Well,

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Speaker 10: I mean, what's the name Kamala Harris turned out there

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Speaker 2: But do you think that Ukraine will will will step

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Speaker 10: Mean nothing to do with us. I mean, well, they do.

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Speaker 2: Have something to do with it, and that they have

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Speaker 10: That's the end of the war.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you don't think Europe will get together and

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Speaker 10: Members Europe, Europe can't even they can't even organize themselves.

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Speaker 2: So you don't think, you don't think, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Kirstarma is saying that that they

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Speaker 10: That that kind of psychologically deranged. But you know it's

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Speaker 4: You know, it's any school.

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Speaker 10: That's for damn sure. Seems like a great ideas that

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Speaker 10: Did you know what happened when the guy that made

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was that was about. That was Belgium.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your calling, Jane, that's why you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think we've got obligations to our international

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Speaker 2: We'll be back in a minute with Daryl who disagrees

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Speaker 4: It is twenty six past one and we're having a

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Speaker 4: great discussion about our involvement in Ukraine or not should

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Speaker 4: But before we get to that.

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Speaker 2: Tiles, I understand you've been thinking about and new Volvo suv.

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Speaker 4: You got it. The XC ninety has even got a

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Speaker 2: I reckon, you need to visit Volvo cars and see

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Speaker 9: All the big names, it's all wrong. The Mike Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 9: On a TV.

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Speaker 12: This you've got to actively go online, reach in der wallet.

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Speaker 9: It's a much bigger it. You can quite like me

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Right back to our top of Christopher lux

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Speaker 4: and our prime minister has suggested or he's open to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Britts have said that there are open

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Speaker 2: with the Brits. Darryl, welcome to the show. You think

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Speaker 12: Yeah, there's a broad brush strike. I say yes, But Trista,

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Speaker 12: I have to say that peacekeeping is an entirely different

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Speaker 2: Well, we're only doing that because Luxon said, we're usually

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Speaker 12: Means that to a certain extent, I would say yes

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Speaker 2: So you think you think that Russia has aspirations to

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Speaker 12: Why would they not if they get away with it once.

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Speaker 12: I mean, the guy who's running the country is a

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Speaker 12: that I find very, very disturbing, he will support and

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Speaker 12: do it because what's going.

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Speaker 14: On is wrong.

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Speaker 12: But if we get a whole lot of mineral out

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Speaker 2: But why Because American taxpayers are asking why are we

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Speaker 2: pumping so much money into the Ukraine, which, as far

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Speaker 2: as they're concerned, is a war that's very far away

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Speaker 2: from them, when they have a lot of financial problems

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Speaker 2: at home. They are trillions and trillions and trillions of

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Speaker 2: dollars and debt. So can you see from an American

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Speaker 2: taxpayer's point of view that they might want to not

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Speaker 2: just pump endless money into what could be seen as

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Speaker 2: a proxy war between the West and Russia.

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Speaker 12: If you actually look at it from the point of

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Speaker 12: view of the average Americans in the street, it's very

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Speaker 12: easy understand why it is they might not want to

447
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Speaker 12: do that. But that's taking on board that for the

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Speaker 12: last eighteen years you've had this really strong isolationist policies

449
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Speaker 12: coming from Trump, saying that we should be at our

450
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Speaker 12: own little box and forget about the rest of the world.

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Speaker 12: Make a narrator great again. But the reality is that

452
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Speaker 12: what's going on is actually detrimental to what is in

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Speaker 12: the entire free world, not just Ukraine. It actually has

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Speaker 12: large reaching impact on the entire rest.

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Speaker 10: Of the planet.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Darrel, there's something along? Do you think

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Speaker 2: there's something in what Trump has been saying around certain

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Speaker 2: NATO members not contributing two percent of their GDP as

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Speaker 2: is promised in NATO agreements. Can you see why America

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Speaker 2: might find that well disappointing.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, But that doesn't mean, as Trump is suggesting that

462
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Speaker 12: you should just pull out NATO again, you need to

463
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Speaker 12: be encouraging those countries that are falling short and actually

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Speaker 12: to make up the difference, because the more we actually

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Speaker 12: end up in a position of not having the ability

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Speaker 12: to be able to defend ourselves as a group, the

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Speaker 12: more chance that you have of countries like Russia, like China,

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Speaker 12: North Korea can fit into the same equation and of

469
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Speaker 12: actually wanting to overstep the mark and creating bigger and

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Speaker 12: bigger problems. We're on a precipice where as a Western society,

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Speaker 12: we're going to end up collapsing under pressure from the

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Speaker 12: East because we actually basically don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although the Americans and Trump will say that they

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Speaker 2: see that their strategic problem as China less and more

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Speaker 2: so than Russia, so they want to move away.

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Speaker 12: The US's decisions are only about money. They don't care

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Speaker 12: about the people that don't care about anything else. They

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Speaker 12: would give all of Ukraine to Russia if they got

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Speaker 12: all of the mineral rights to Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: That's how you don't think, so that that may may

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Speaker 2: or not be may or may or may not be true.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the members of NATO, you've

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Speaker 2: got Germany, You've got France, you've got Hungary, you've got Poland,

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Speaker 2: You've got some very big countries in their United Kingdoms

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Speaker 2: with some big armies. You've got Canada in there, you

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Speaker 2: know Germany. As I said before, you don't think that

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Speaker 2: those countries can't step up and sort out their own

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Speaker 2: European problem without the United States.

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Speaker 12: I believe that they can. In fact, I believe that

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Speaker 12: they will. If they're not given the support by the

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Speaker 12: largest Western nation, they will actually stand up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I thank you so much for your thoughts, Daryl.

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Speaker 2: We've just got to go to a break, but very

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff and great chat, and thanks for ringing. We

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Speaker 2: got the headlines coming up.

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Speaker 4: But I think there was pretty adamant that we do

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Speaker 4: need to be a part of it, even if it

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Speaker 4: is peacekeepers on the ground. And granted that is very

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Speaker 4: different to what the UK was looking at, but that

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Speaker 4: is still a step up. Right to this point, we

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Speaker 4: have been funding elements that are kind of on the periphery.

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Speaker 4: Having peacekeepers on the ground in Ukraine would be different,

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Speaker 4: but we'll take some more of your calls very shortly.

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Speaker 4: It is twenty five to two.

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Speaker 1: Youth talks that'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 15: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Police are asking

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Speaker 15: for the public's help after a possible sighting of Tom

508
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Speaker 15: Phillips and his children over the weekend. About eight thirty

509
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Speaker 15: am on Sunday, a member of the public called police

510
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Speaker 15: and stated they had seen four people dressed in camouflage

511
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Speaker 15: sitting in a lay by on State Highway four. The

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Speaker 15: Cook Islands hasn't given New Zealand details of its agreement

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Speaker 15: with China, but our Prime Minister says he expects to

514
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Speaker 15: see more shortly. Chris Luckson says we need to see

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Speaker 15: and review the documents. Our Foreign Affairs minister has spoken

516
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Speaker 15: with his Ukraine counterpart as EU.

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Speaker 2: Leaders meet to discuss the war with Russia.

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Speaker 15: Winston Peter says they discussed efforts to achieve lasting peace

519
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Speaker 15: and Ukraine's need for ongoing support. The Education Minister says

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Speaker 15: her working relationship with Associate Minister David Seymour is excellent,

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Speaker 15: despite saying he overstepped into her role by weighing a

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Speaker 15: non teacher only days police appraising road workers who stopped

523
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Speaker 15: a woman allegedly more than three times over the alcohol

524
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Speaker 15: limit and driving with a baby on board in the

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Speaker 15: Bay of Plenty. Michael Burgess on the simple change needed

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Speaker 15: to fix the Hellberg Awards. You can read the full

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Speaker 15: column at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan

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Speaker 15: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Rayleen.

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Speaker 2: I'm just just packing a disgusting thing off my head.

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Speaker 2: Sorry Tyler, No, no, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Well you did discuss this on the show yesterday, So

533
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Speaker 4: let's bring the audience and you've got something that has

534
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Speaker 4: been examined.

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Speaker 2: Why the doctors is all okay at the stage, I've

536
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Speaker 2: got to go to the Dermatologist's got my meeting to

537
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Speaker 2: find out whether it's a sort of a malignant thing

538
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Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm sure to be fine. Yeah, I can't

539
00:27:15,773 --> 00:27:17,893
Speaker 2: help picking it off and said, my head keeps bleeding.

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Speaker 4: So is that why you keep changing hats each day?

541
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Speaker 4: That you've got to wash your hair each day?

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Speaker 2: I'm a discussing him being and look, I would have

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Speaker 2: gone away with it if I hadn't set it over

544
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Speaker 2: the microphone. No one would have known this as an

545
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Speaker 2: audio media.

546
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Speaker 4: We're an open book here on this show.

547
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Speaker 2: I've out of myself as a disgusting scab.

548
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Speaker 4: Picking right back to the topic we're having, which is

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Speaker 4: a fairly serious one if we've been honest. Is Christopher

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Speaker 4: Luxxon's comments this morning to my cost scheme that he

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Speaker 4: is open to having New Zealand peacekeeping troops on the

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Speaker 4: ground in Ukraine. Is that a wise idea or not? Oh,

553
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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call

554
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Speaker 4: simon your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 16: Yes, Well, I've got to tell you, I'm actually quite

556
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Speaker 16: disappointed if you haven't, don't your research and really understood

557
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Speaker 16: the subject before you started down this part.

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Speaker 2: I think I haven't, because.

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Speaker 16: No, no, you're not even close. The fact is that

560
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Speaker 16: peacekeeping is has absolutely nothing to do with fighting or with.

561
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Speaker 2: Well the deployment of forces to help resolved controlled conflict.

562
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Speaker 8: No, it isn't.

563
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Speaker 2: That's that's correctly what it is.

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Speaker 16: It's not the result of the conflict. It's to maintain

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Speaker 16: peace between the parties that are involved. A peacekeeper only

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Speaker 16: goes into a country after the treaty has been fined

567
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Speaker 16: and after the fighting is finished.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the definit what I'm giving you there is

569
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Speaker 2: the un definition of what a peacekeeper is.

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Speaker 16: That's the only entity in the world that manages peacekeeping forces.

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Speaker 16: Any anyone else is really just the mercenary. But in

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Speaker 16: the case of peacekeeping forces, the forces are designed to

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Speaker 16: keep the parties apart and basically maintain the status quo

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Speaker 16: that's been defined by the treaty. So there's no pointing

575
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Speaker 16: guns at people, there's no shooting at anyone, there's no

576
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Speaker 16: air support like that ignorant call.

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Speaker 2: I mean, peacekeeping forces famously do carry weapons.

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Speaker 16: Yes they don't, they don't use them, But why do

579
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Speaker 16: they have them if anyone.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, they're not a force if they don't ever

581
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Speaker 2: use force. So even if you even if you're not

582
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Speaker 2: using your weapons, the fact that you have weapons and

583
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Speaker 2: you're deployed there that that is and it's and it's

584
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Speaker 2: just by the fact that you have the ability to

585
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Speaker 2: use force means that you're imposing your will on people

586
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Speaker 2: that may not want their will. You there your will

587
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Speaker 2: imposed on them, and that that's basically what it is.

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Speaker 16: Why that's that's why I'm disappointed that you guys don't

589
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Speaker 16: understand the concept, because well.

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Speaker 2: You don't seem to you don't seem to understand the concept. Simon.

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Speaker 16: So I've been into countries of conflict and actually, you know,

592
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Speaker 16: been through the process of traveling across borders between water.

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Speaker 4: We've had peacekeepers killed in conflict zones before Simon, we

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Speaker 4: had four k peacekeepers killed. So if that happens in

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Speaker 4: the Ukraine, where where where does that put us as

596
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Speaker 4: a come.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, No, you don't understand. You see, you're only there

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Speaker 16: by the invitation of the countries that have been finding.

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Speaker 2: But Simon, what you're not understanding is that Russia may

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Speaker 2: not be very happy with your peacekeeping forces. Just because

601
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Speaker 2: NATO says their peacekeeping forces and Ukraine accepts them as

602
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Speaker 2: peacekeeping forces, then Russia it doesn't necessarily see them as

603
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Speaker 2: peacekeeping forces. They see them as an aggressive move.

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Speaker 16: They won't be there then, because peacekeepers only go in

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Speaker 16: by the invitation of the parties who are signatary to

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Speaker 16: the treaty, and it means the fighting has finished and

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Speaker 16: they agree that there needs to be a peacekeeper there

608
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Speaker 16: is keep the parties separated. They usually have a demilitarized zone,

609
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Speaker 16: usually several combitters wide. Pacekeepers don't have heavy artillery, they

610
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Speaker 16: don't have air cover. They generally have side arms for

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Speaker 16: their own protection because in a lot of these countries,

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Speaker 16: such as Indonesia or in Afghanistan or Central American countries

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Speaker 16: or others, the fighting that's occurred is often by private

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Speaker 16: militias or guerrilla groups. So it's not always what the

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Speaker 16: government can agree to a treaty and stop fighting. The

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Speaker 16: other people on the ground, you know, may have different views,

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Speaker 16: and that's why they need peacekeepers to be able to

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Speaker 16: protect themselves. But they're not ever in a role where

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Speaker 16: they're going to shoot back at the Russians.

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Speaker 2: So why would they be armed if they're not going

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Speaker 2: to shoot at.

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Speaker 16: People because they're military and they protect themselves their own person.

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Speaker 16: If somebody is so, who are they so?

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Speaker 2: Who are they? Who are they suppressing? When they're peacekeeping?

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Speaker 2: Who needs to who needs what? Where do they need

626
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Speaker 2: to be there? Who are they stopping by peacekeeping?

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Speaker 16: They're stopping the two warring parties that have signed a treaty.

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Speaker 16: They're stopping them from re engaging and creative.

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Speaker 2: And you think that that's a good thing for New

630
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Speaker 2: Zealand to be involved in. In the Ukraine, between Russia.

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Speaker 16: And I said, I never said either way, But what

632
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Speaker 16: I am saying is is that it won't happen. What

633
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Speaker 16: you've all, you know, misunderstood what Luxon is saying, and

634
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Speaker 16: it's got only to do well Kirs Starmer's current situation

635
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Speaker 16: where he wants to potentially fight this is after all

636
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Speaker 16: the fighting is over, after the treaty is assigned. New

637
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Speaker 16: Zealand is renowned as a very successful peacekeeping force.

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Speaker 2: But what we said, what we said at the start

639
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Speaker 2: this thing, and it's possible that Christopher Luxon misspoke, but

640
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Speaker 2: he said, we're usually in lockstep with the Brits. So

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Speaker 2: then if you're looking at what Kirs Starmer is saying,

642
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Speaker 2: he's what he's saying is that he's he's willing to

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Speaker 2: put troops on the ground and they're not even in peacekeeping.

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Speaker 16: Uh, you know, so exactly, And that's not what Luson said.

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Speaker 16: Luxton said, we would go in in the peacekeeping role,

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Speaker 16: and that means that this is long after all the

647
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Speaker 16: fighting has finished. So that's why you really need to

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Speaker 16: understand the context of what post peacekeeping is and how

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Speaker 16: it's administered.

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Speaker 2: And I think we all understand what peacekeepers.

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Speaker 16: All peace keepers, Yeah, don't don't go in with artillery guns. Aircraft,

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Speaker 16: any of that. Basically a regiment of infantry who are

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Speaker 16: prepared to stand there and basically search vehicles, conduct the

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Speaker 16: role of a police force that keeps the parties apart

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Speaker 16: and make sure that.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to I met, Simon, that's an armed

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Speaker 2: police force from another country. So it is, it's not peacekeeping.

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Speaker 2: Peacekeeping is a very nice way of putting what's going

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Speaker 2: on there.

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Speaker 4: It's putting our troops and harm's way. That is that

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Speaker 4: is undeniable. Yes, it is. There were four peace keepers.

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Speaker 16: You don't you don't join the army if you're not

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Speaker 16: prepared to fight or to shoot guns or to be

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Speaker 16: shot at other you know, they don't join the army.

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Speaker 4: But we're drifting away from that argument here, Simon, because

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Speaker 4: if you put our troops and harm what Harm's way,

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Speaker 4: then that is a big decision for us as a

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Speaker 4: country to make, and in a conflict that is complex

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Speaker 4: and messy, and even if it, as you say, gets

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Speaker 4: to a situation where there is a piece of cord

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Speaker 4: and our troops are sent there, they are still being

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Speaker 4: sent into harm's way.

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Speaker 16: No, I don't agree at all with that that any

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Speaker 16: military operation any sort in you in the world has

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Speaker 16: has harm attached to it, potentially. Yeah, But the point

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Speaker 16: is in this case, you're you're there by the invitation

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Speaker 16: of the parties that were involved in the war. So

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Speaker 16: if they haven't asked you into their country, you're not

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Speaker 16: going to be there there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for you for your call, Simon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good discussion and enjoying this. Thank you very much, Simon.

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Speaker 4: We're worldly late. It is thirteen minutes to do PEG

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Speaker 4: very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

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Speaker 1: matt and Taylor afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety, attention

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Speaker 1: to detail and a commitment to comfort news talks.

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Speaker 4: They'd be good afternoon. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. Nine to nine two

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Speaker 4: is the text number world. Good afternoon, Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 14: Look green.

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Speaker 18: Following the Russia Ukraine War very closely on a daily

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Speaker 18: basis and listening to a lot of different commentary from

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Speaker 18: both right wing you know commentary Tucker Carlson through to

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Speaker 18: John Meersheimer through to Timothy Snyder from Yale and all

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Speaker 18: everything in between, and Russia invaded. Putin has been saying

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Speaker 18: since two thousand and seven that he believes that Ukraine

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Speaker 18: is not a country, it's not a sovereign nation, and that.

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Speaker 12: It shouldn't have a right to exist.

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Speaker 18: And you know, invaded Primere and John bars in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 18: For the last eleven years, you know, they've been at war,

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Speaker 18: but that was escalated in February, you know, three years ago,

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Speaker 18: February twenty twenty two. And he's it is it really

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Speaker 18: is a genocide. They are looking to destroy Ukrainian language,

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Speaker 18: destroyer Ukrainian history, culture, all the rest of rewrite history,

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Speaker 18: and Russify everybody.

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Speaker 12: It's what they do.

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Speaker 18: They didn't get to be the biggest land mass in

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Speaker 18: the world, biggest country in the world by just being

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Speaker 18: nice guys. They move into the little countries all around them.

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Speaker 18: They're a land empire, and Russia wants he doesn't want

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Speaker 18: to recreate the Soviet Empire. He wants to recreate the

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Speaker 18: Tsarist Russian Empire. And he wants to be he is

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Speaker 18: the czar, he's the dictator, and he moved into Ukraine.

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Speaker 18: Now Ukraine after World War One, became a country in

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Speaker 18: twenty twenty, sorry in nineteen twenty, but in twenty twenty

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Speaker 18: two it was taken over by the Soviets, but they

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Speaker 18: still maintained it as Ukraine, and Ukraine was by nineteen

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Speaker 18: forty five it was actually an independent country in UN.

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Speaker 18: It's been recognized as forty five by the UN and

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Speaker 18: then of course ratified by Russia and all the major

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Speaker 18: powers in nineteen ninety one. And they even had the

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Speaker 18: agreement in ninety four to get rid of their nuks

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Speaker 18: for protection and Russia signed that along with the Brits

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Speaker 18: and the French, and I think the Chinese and the

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Speaker 18: US signed that agreement. All that was, that's in the toilet.

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Speaker 18: So the first caller that you had was a load

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Speaker 18: of crap. He's repeating Russian talking points and Donald Trump,

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Speaker 18: Hey ya.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome you. We've got to go away and come

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Speaker 2: back in a second. So can you just hold the

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Speaker 2: line there and we'll keep talking to you when we

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 1: Matties Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Madden Tyler Afternoon with the Volvo XC

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Speaker 9: News dogs'd be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, sorry about that. We had to cut you

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Speaker 2: off in the middle of what you were saying, but

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Speaker 2: we're back now.

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Speaker 12: Well that's all right.

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Speaker 18: Look, the point I want to make is that Russia

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Speaker 18: invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation, a fledgling democracy that is

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Speaker 18: trying to get out of the yoke of living under

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Speaker 18: the Soviet Union for seventy years.

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Speaker 12: Just like all of the.

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Speaker 18: Other Baltic states, Poland, they all were oppressed by Russia.

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Speaker 18: They had their intelligent he moved off to the Gulag

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Speaker 18: and killed whole families were killed by the Russians or

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Speaker 18: the Soviets, and all those Baltic nations ran as quickly

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Speaker 18: as they could to join the EU for prosperity and

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Speaker 18: NATO for security, because that, you know, because of their

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Speaker 18: fear and the history of Russian oppression. Ukraine's no different.

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Speaker 18: But Ukraine's very powerful. It's a large country, large population,

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Speaker 18: and a strong military. They have bled for three years,

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Speaker 18: longer than that eleven years, but more recently at a

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Speaker 18: full scale war, they have bled fighting. Now the West

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Speaker 18: has provided weapons in the United States had but the U,

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Speaker 18: the EU, who's provided sixty percent of both military and

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Speaker 18: humanitarian aid, the United States about forty percent. This idea

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Speaker 18: that America has paid the the you know the Lions

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Speaker 18: shares as a load of rubbish. Look, sure, there's a

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Speaker 18: lot of NATO nations that were not up to the

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Speaker 18: two percent. Now there's about twenty three countries and and

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Speaker 18: that are two percent, and there's quite a few that

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Speaker 18: are at the three and four and moving to five percent. Certainly,

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Speaker 18: the Baltic States are punching above their weight in terms

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Speaker 18: of support for Ukraine. Now in New Zealand's out of NATO,

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Speaker 18: but we're an associate of NATO and we have been

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Speaker 18: training in the UK alongside British soldiers and Ukrainians boats

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Speaker 18: and like people said, you know with the Hercules going

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Speaker 18: in from Finland what have you. So we've been supportive

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Speaker 18: of the Ukrainians.

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Speaker 2: Well once again, well without you quickly go.

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Speaker 18: Just one point Yep, you were quite right about the

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Speaker 18: risks for peacekeepers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna have to come back.

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Speaker 4: We're come users coming.

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Speaker 9: Up talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 1: XC ninety News Talks.

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Speaker 4: Be good afternoon, Welcome back into the show. Seven past two,

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Speaker 4: and we've been discussing the Prime Minister's comments on the

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Speaker 4: Mi Cosking brief for shows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's promised Chris relux and says he's open to

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Speaker 2: following the United Kingdom's footsteps by sending peacekeepers over to

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Speaker 2: the Ukraine. Luxon told news Talk ZB Mike Costing our

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Speaker 2: very own most Cosking that he'd be open to sending

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Speaker 2: peacekeepers into the Ukraine, but feel they will that's a

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Speaker 2: long way away. He also said that we are usually

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Speaker 2: in lockstep with the Brits, which I think this is

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Speaker 2: interesting that we're still in lockstep with the Brits. We

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Speaker 2: were talking before, had a quite a heated discussion with

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Speaker 2: a guy called Simon about what peacekeepers were. I think

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Speaker 2: we all know what peacekeepers were. We're kind of talking

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Speaker 2: over each other and across each other this text are

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Speaker 2: Nigel On nine two nine two says, you guys are

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Speaker 2: completely right. As a recently retired soldier of thirty years,

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Speaker 2: if Enzi def personnel were deployed, they would certainly carry weapons.

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Speaker 2: I would go so far as to say they would

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Speaker 2: deploy similar something similar to what happened with the Bosnian conflict,

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Speaker 2: but now with the introduction of the Bushmaster vehicle ideally

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Speaker 2: suited for this type of work. Thanks for text Nigel,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Now before we hit the news, Will was with us. Now,

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Speaker 4: well we've got you back.

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Speaker 2: We've got to say, well, sorry, we had poor time

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Speaker 2: management in that hour. So what happens is all right,

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Speaker 2: what happens well is that ads back up and then

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Speaker 2: if we keep talking, we let callers go too long

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Speaker 2: except for and the ads back up and we had

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Speaker 2: to rudely cut you off all the time. So we'll

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Speaker 2: let you continue now. Well, thank you so much, Oh.

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Speaker 16: Thank you. Look, I just want to make a couple

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Speaker 16: of points.

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Speaker 18: The issue about peacekeepers is that it is escalatory, but

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Speaker 18: it's actually in lockstep with Britain in the sense that

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Speaker 18: we have been providing the kind of as I said,

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Speaker 18: the training for Ukraine, and it's a necessary step, it

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Speaker 18: is justified, but it is risky and it is dangerous

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Speaker 18: and it's different to any other peacekeeping that's happened on

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Speaker 18: the planet Earth since World War Two, because this is

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Speaker 18: a war against Russia. It's a nuclear power, reputedly the

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Speaker 18: second most powerful army in the world quote unquote cough.

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Speaker 18: The Ukrainians have kept them at bay. They've only made

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Speaker 18: sixty k in the last year in Ukraine. It would

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Speaker 18: take them two hundred years to get to Kiev at

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Speaker 18: that at that rate. So the Ukrainians are holding them

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Speaker 18: back with Western weapons, and a lot of that's coming

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Speaker 18: from Europe. And it's not just the UK that we

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Speaker 18: need to be in lock stepworth, we need to be

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Speaker 18: in lockstep with the Europe. Donald Trump said he's going

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Speaker 18: to have the Pentagon's budget, which means half the Americans

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Speaker 18: military from two a trillion a year to five hundred billion,

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Speaker 18: and that they're going to pull out of NATO, and

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Speaker 18: that the Europeans can no longer rely after seventy years,

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Speaker 18: they can no longer eighty years, They can no longer

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Speaker 18: rely on America, or the world can no longer rely

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Speaker 18: on America. It's actually not America. It's Trump. It's Trump.

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Speaker 18: There's been an executive coup in America. He's taken over

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Speaker 18: all the administration. He's going to go into the Pentagon

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Speaker 18: if they'll let him.

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Speaker 14: I really hopefully let's.

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Speaker 2: Bring executive of coup or an election win Well, hello, yep,

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Speaker 2: would you would you call it an executive coup or

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Speaker 2: would you call it an election win coup?

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Speaker 18: It's unconstitutional and unlawful behavior. Absolutely damn straight. That's what

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Speaker 18: he's doing. He's seized funds, he's putting an Elon Musk

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Speaker 18: and his Musk rats in there to actually, you know,

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Speaker 18: basically fire people he fired the nuclear you know, the

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Speaker 18: people that look after the nukele. They had to put

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Speaker 18: twenty eight of them back on.

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Speaker 2: Aren't they as would you know the counter argument to

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Speaker 2: that as he's got Musk doing an audit of a

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Speaker 2: country that is heavily in debt and as running a

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Speaker 2: reason about a waste and potentially quite a lot of fraud.

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Speaker 18: Well that look, that is the subterfuge that is being

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Speaker 18: given in the mainstream media. Everyone's listening. That's exactly what

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Speaker 18: you're listening to. That's not what is happening. Basically, you've

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Speaker 18: got But we're moving back to the writers might and

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Speaker 18: Donald Trump is going to replace the generals with his

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Speaker 18: loyalist generals, and then is he going to take over Greenland,

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Speaker 18: Canada whatever?

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Speaker 2: I think it's likely that he's going to take over Canada.

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Speaker 2: But you know that's just as we're kind of getting

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Speaker 2: off the off the topic here so well, basically what

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Speaker 2: you're saying is that you would support New Zealand sending

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Speaker 2: peace peacekeepers into the Ukraine, and.

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Speaker 18: I think we should increase our defense budget to two

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Speaker 18: percent as a minimum, because I think, look, Americ, we

871
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Speaker 18: can't rely on America. Is Trump's America is no longer reliable.

872
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Speaker 18: They proved that over the weekend at the Munich European

873
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Speaker 18: Security Conference, which I listened to greatly, and Vounce talked

874
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Speaker 18: scolding the Europeans for being undemocratic, it's ridiculous, and then

875
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Speaker 18: cuddling up to the AfD, which is a neo Nazi

876
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Speaker 18: party they are in Musk with his Zighaile.

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Speaker 2: Come on, come on, you can't you can't seriously, well,

878
00:45:15,373 --> 00:45:17,213
Speaker 2: you can't think that. That's what that was. That was

879
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Speaker 2: a total media beat up. Hey, but thank you so much.

880
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Speaker 2: I think we've we've got your point across there. Well

881
00:45:22,773 --> 00:45:25,212
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We've got a lot of texts coming through

882
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Speaker 2: with people that disagree with you. This text here says

883
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Speaker 2: your caller doesn't know Ukraine very well. Twenty fourteen, Zelenski

884
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Speaker 2: sent in the Tornado Brigades and then the as of Brigrades.

885
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Speaker 2: The purpose was for Eastern Russian speaking Ukraine's from speaking Russia.

886
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Speaker 2: They did some terrible things approximately for you day you

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Speaker 2: go on, but there's there's there's a lot of disagreement

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Speaker 2: on us. This is very controversial. I think people are

889
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Speaker 2: living in totally different bubbles now, So what Well sees

890
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Speaker 2: and believes is very different from what other people see

891
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Speaker 2: and believe. Yeah, completely different worlds.

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Speaker 4: Were two sides of extreme, isn't it. Oh we had

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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty and we have gone

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Speaker 4: a little bit off topic. But do you think back

895
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Speaker 4: on topic on the back of their Prime minister's comments

896
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Speaker 4: that he'd be open to sending peacekeepers, is this a

897
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Speaker 4: conflict we want to be a part of peacekeepers or

898
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Speaker 4: do we want to increase funding to be on the

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Speaker 4: periphery even more? Love to hear from you, nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 4: The text number thirty bus.

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Speaker 1: Too your new home of afternoon talk Matt and Taylor

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Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety Turn every journey into

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Speaker 1: something special.

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Speaker 9: Call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 4: EDB, News Talks EDB. It is sixteen past two and

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Speaker 4: having a great discussion.

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Speaker 2: We certainly are. It's getting pretty heated in the text machine,

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Speaker 2: pretty heated on our eight hundred and eighteen eighty, But

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Speaker 2: we love that. Christopher Luxon said this morning on the

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Speaker 2: mic cost Can Breakfast show that he'd be open to

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Speaker 2: sending peacekeepers into the Ukraine, but feels still a long

912
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Speaker 2: way to go and he believes we're usually in lockstep

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Speaker 2: with the Brits. And kirst Armer has said that he'd

914
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Speaker 2: be open to peacekeepers in the Ukraine as well. Someone's

915
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Speaker 2: this text here on nineteen nine two. Listening to all

916
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Speaker 2: these ranting men reminds me we need some more ladies

917
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Speaker 2: at the top. Well, yeah, great to hear from some ladies. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten at it does seem that

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Speaker 2: men are more keen to talk about war than what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we love talking about talking about it. This is

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Speaker 4: good t X Kay, guys, I believe that providing there

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Speaker 4: is a robust you in Mandate agreed and implemented that

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Speaker 4: we should be open to building boots on the ground,

924
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Speaker 4: just as we did in Teymoor and Angola and to

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Speaker 4: a lesser extent Afghanistan, as we are still doing in

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Speaker 4: South Sudan. And I'm sure there were one or two others.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says Hi absolutely not. New Zealand needs to

928
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Speaker 2: stay away from this EU conflicts Marcus, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Hi, it's so all very controversial. I'll time to

931
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Speaker 13: keep away from sort of leaders and that, but just

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Speaker 13: a clarification two types of view in peace mission Chapter

933
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Speaker 13: six peace cuping, some of your callers, of some of

934
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Speaker 13: the striker you've got arms enup for your self defense

935
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Speaker 13: and the defensive people immediately around you. Chapter seven Peace Enforcement.

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Speaker 13: I've been on chapter seven missions where we've had artillery,

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Speaker 13: gunships all the rest.

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Speaker 12: For just to.

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Speaker 13: Clarify that my opinion on a deployment, I think you

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Speaker 13: go for it's always being a good international citizen. It

941
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Speaker 13: comes back to us in other ways. The only point

942
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Speaker 13: i'd makers Luxan's probably talking about lockstep will be Principal's

943
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Speaker 13: traditionally Bosnia and I've got a fun we wire under

944
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Speaker 13: British regiments. I'd suggest perhaps we team up will be Australians,

945
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Speaker 13: have an Australian commander of British New Zealand setting in

946
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Speaker 13: command perhaps and do it that way. I'm not very

947
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Speaker 13: fond of being led by the Fritz Hower, but Kookie,

948
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Speaker 13: I'd rather where it will be these and the only

949
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Speaker 13: reason we're having this conversation guys at the moment after

950
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Speaker 13: three years of war is because people can actually foresee

951
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Speaker 13: the possibility of a cease fire and eventually a piece

952
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Speaker 13: over there. I'm not saying Trump's responsible for it, but

953
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Speaker 13: certainly this is as close as we have come so

954
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Speaker 13: far since the beginning of that war. And that's why

955
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Speaker 13: we're having these discussions now.

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Speaker 2: Marcus, you said, did you say that you've been deployed

957
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Speaker 2: in this kind of situation before?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I did two deployments from New Zealand Army and

959
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Speaker 13: I was an international staff in the UN on peacekeeping

960
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Speaker 13: operations for fifteen years. So I've worked everywhere except Afghanistan

961
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Speaker 13: and Iraq.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating and in those deployments and so these were peacekeeping

963
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Speaker 2: deployments with a Marcus.

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Speaker 13: Nearly all of them here, and I've done chapter six,

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Speaker 13: chapter seven. My last tour was three years in Mogadishu

966
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Speaker 13: in Somalia. Came back home in twenty and sixteen. Everybody's

967
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Speaker 13: watched black Hawk down and thought it was over from

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Speaker 13: them that you AND's been there ever since.

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Speaker 2: Wow? And were you in harm's way when you were

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Speaker 2: in any of these these peacekeeping deployments frequently? So there's

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Speaker 2: there's firefights.

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Speaker 19: Yes, Sarah.

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Speaker 10: Usually, oh.

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Speaker 13: It's wrong time.

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Speaker 4: So you carry on, Marcus, we just lost you for

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Speaker 4: a bit there. So Matt asked about firefights.

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Speaker 13: It's usually a time thing. You're wrong place, wrong time

978
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Speaker 13: with a peacekeeping much and that's usually for two sides

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Speaker 13: having a go at each other. And if you're unfortunate

980
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Speaker 13: enough to get caught in the middle of us, then

981
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Speaker 13: it's a problem. Where where it became problematic in the

982
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Speaker 13: last king answer for you, it actually became a terrorist target.

983
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Speaker 13: So for example in Somalia they now have a target

984
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Speaker 13: of a terrorist organization, but that wouldn't be the case

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Speaker 13: of a deployment.

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Speaker 19: That we're talking about at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Marcus, in some of these situations where New

988
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Speaker 4: Zealand peacekeepers' troops have been deployed, they can be very

989
00:51:05,453 --> 00:51:08,613
Speaker 4: messy situations, right, You mentioned South Sudan that continue to

990
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Speaker 4: this day, and indeed Afghanistan the n ZPRT clearly that

991
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Speaker 4: was a situation that was messy and complicated and wasn't

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Speaker 4: remedied by having peacekeepers there. There was still our troops

993
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Speaker 4: who were killed on the ground.

994
00:51:26,653 --> 00:51:26,893
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I wasn't an Agenis arm but I did four and

996
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Speaker 13: a half years in south saidan northwestern Kenya Rumbak Tuba Locatchohio.

997
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Speaker 13: And yeah, a huge difference was made by having regional

998
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Speaker 13: peacekeeping sort of set up there and later on the UN.

999
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Speaker 13: I was there before the peace agreement, there during the

1000
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Speaker 13: peace agreement, and then I was when the UN came in,

1001
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Speaker 13: and the difference half of the UN was there was horrendous.

1002
00:51:54,213 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 13: It was very very positive. So you know, that's a

1003
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Speaker 13: good example of peace enforcement. There was a very strong

1004
00:52:02,493 --> 00:52:06,133
Speaker 13: agreement and some of your callers that have talked about this,

1005
00:52:06,493 --> 00:52:08,973
Speaker 13: there's a status of forces agreement. Ellen would have a

1006
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Speaker 13: set of supporters agreement at all the parties to the

1007
00:52:11,733 --> 00:52:14,773
Speaker 13: agreement will basically sign off New Zealand being there. So

1008
00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:17,973
Speaker 13: once there's a peace deal, it's all kosher, it's all good.

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Speaker 13: And you know, we're not talking about deployment until such

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Speaker 13: a time. But certainly somewhere like Sadana is a classic

1011
00:52:25,333 --> 00:52:27,933
Speaker 13: access sort of area where it's all about getting in

1012
00:52:28,053 --> 00:52:33,813
Speaker 13: humanitarian aid. There's tinker versus luiir. There's no terrorist element

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00:52:33,893 --> 00:52:38,453
Speaker 13: as such, and you know, in terms of firepower, it's

1014
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:41,212
Speaker 13: not a Bosnia, it's not a Ukraine or Chech there,

1015
00:52:41,653 --> 00:52:44,413
Speaker 13: so it's pretty low key. It's a pretty friendly environment

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Speaker 13: for a humanitarian operators and indeed u.

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Speaker 2: N actors now, Marcus, you know, we all work in

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Speaker 2: really safe environments. I mean, the biggest danger I've got

1019
00:52:53,973 --> 00:52:57,732
Speaker 2: at work is getting rashed from talking into this sock

1020
00:52:57,813 --> 00:53:00,973
Speaker 2: on my mic. What's it like to be in a

1021
00:53:01,013 --> 00:53:05,333
Speaker 2: firefight and actually have your life at risk on the job?

1022
00:53:07,013 --> 00:53:08,613
Speaker 19: Rounds always have right way.

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Speaker 13: The key is not to do anything stupid if you

1024
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Speaker 13: can just cut down your risk, and New Zealand soldiers

1025
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Speaker 13: are very good at doing that. I wish for fifteen

1026
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Speaker 13: years when I was an international staff in the UN

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Speaker 13: outside of an army unit from home, that I had

1028
00:53:24,813 --> 00:53:28,213
Speaker 13: our sort of people around us, because it does make

1029
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Speaker 13: a difference. But you can, you can be careful through planning,

1030
00:53:31,573 --> 00:53:35,093
Speaker 13: through mitigation. You can really take the resk down from

1031
00:53:35,093 --> 00:53:39,133
Speaker 13: a very high risk situation to one that's got moderate rest.

1032
00:53:39,573 --> 00:53:44,172
Speaker 13: So if you've got the right people doing your risk assessments,

1033
00:53:44,333 --> 00:53:47,613
Speaker 13: if you're well resourced, it's it's very workable. You can

1034
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Speaker 13: take down your risk to you know, probably less less

1035
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Speaker 13: rest than driving in New Zealand for six hours on

1036
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Speaker 13: a road about to.

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Speaker 2: See what I mean, Hey, well, Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your call and your insights. Marcus. I really appreciate that.

1039
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Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for bringing.

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Speaker 4: Us absolutely that was great. O one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: teen eighty is the number to call. It's twenty three past.

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Speaker 9: Two, matd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 1: Call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on Youth

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Speaker 1: Talk ZB twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five to two.

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Speaker 2: Hello, there a woman here. My simple opinion is that

1047
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Speaker 2: democracies must support each other and other democracies. Is Ukraine

1048
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Speaker 2: a democracy? Yes? Yes, yes, as Russia democracy. I'll leave

1049
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Speaker 2: you to work that out. That's from Barb from Tokara.

1050
00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:33,212
Speaker 2: I said I wanted a female opinion on this, and

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Speaker 2: here was one from Barb.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic and we'd love more. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1053
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Speaker 4: eighty is the number. Call Morris, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 8: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Very good lads. Interesting topic. Yeah, but I actually think

1056
00:54:46,973 --> 00:54:50,333
Speaker 3: we should sell well away. They've got peacekeepers and lemon

1057
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Speaker 3: on you just recently this Rael is called keen of them.

1058
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Speaker 3: So do we want to put our people there in

1059
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Speaker 3: what's expensed to us? And people say, oh, we're going

1060
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Speaker 3: to do it, but no, we did that in World

1061
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Speaker 3: War one and World War two. We get massive sacrifices.

1062
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Speaker 3: We don't need to keep doing it because what do

1063
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Speaker 3: we get back? Nothing from Europe. They've got a very

1064
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Speaker 3: shor Henry. And my biggest concern is right the Ukraine

1065
00:55:13,093 --> 00:55:15,692
Speaker 3: stop u Crat was formed in ninety five, and you've

1066
00:55:15,693 --> 00:55:18,253
Speaker 3: got to go back in history and actually, and I've

1067
00:55:18,253 --> 00:55:19,933
Speaker 3: listened to some of those guys you've had on here

1068
00:55:19,973 --> 00:55:22,773
Speaker 3: about blowing the world up and all this Putin and

1069
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Speaker 3: Russia haven't broken agreements in ninety five when they annexed

1070
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Speaker 3: all those countries from the Soviet Union, NATO and America

1071
00:55:31,613 --> 00:55:34,573
Speaker 3: signed a deal that we won't put NATO on your

1072
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Speaker 3: back door. They signed that, you know how like it

1073
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Speaker 3: took the breacher six months. Polm was a verse one

1074
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Speaker 3: and they put you to the weapons here. So you know,

1075
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:44,533
Speaker 3: you've got to give the Russians a break. And you

1076
00:55:44,573 --> 00:55:46,893
Speaker 3: know you hear about it in Russia all those BODI guards,

1077
00:55:47,253 --> 00:55:49,373
Speaker 3: well they sold all the state assets so certain people

1078
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Speaker 3: got them. It was no different news out and a

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Speaker 3: fay rich white do we go on? And so they're

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Speaker 3: the victim of this Western you know, they are the devil.

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Speaker 3: They are the devil because We've got to have a devil.

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00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:02,253
Speaker 3: China's the devil. But actually we look at it. If

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00:56:02,293 --> 00:56:06,013
Speaker 3: you look at it, Joe Biden already had to say

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00:56:06,013 --> 00:56:09,413
Speaker 3: to stop this war is that no, Ukraine, you can't

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00:56:09,453 --> 00:56:11,253
Speaker 3: be part of NATO. That's all we had to do.

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Speaker 3: And they wouldn't have evaded. It was a civil war

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Speaker 3: between the Russian speaking and the Ukrainian speaking, That's what

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Speaker 3: it was. And when they said NATO's on the table,

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Speaker 3: Russia invaded.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go, thanks, Samksamuris. Do you agree with them?

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Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty No, We're getting really

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00:56:27,493 --> 00:56:31,013
Speaker 2: really this is this is the state of things right now.

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Speaker 2: The everything is so completely polarized between between the views

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Speaker 2: on a situation like this. This is an interesting text though.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, I'm a veteran of multiple deployments including Afghanistan,

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Speaker 2: TIMA in the Middle East. The task required to send

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00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:47,772
Speaker 2: a force to Ukraine wouldn't be defined as peacekeeping. It's

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00:56:47,773 --> 00:56:51,093
Speaker 2: a peace enforcement operation between two major players, being NATO

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Speaker 2: and Russia. It is likely if Russia agreed to a

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Speaker 2: cease fire, it would be on the condition not to

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Speaker 2: have NATO members in the truce monitoring Enforcement Group Peutin

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Speaker 2: would never allow NATO members to operate against their border.

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Speaker 2: I do agree we need to do our part within

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Speaker 2: a rules based order, but it's a longboated or if

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00:57:08,813 --> 00:57:11,293
Speaker 2: you think Kibis will deploy to Ukraine, we are too

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Speaker 2: close to the US and uk Also, it won't be

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Speaker 2: a UN peacekeeping mission as Russia has the VETOCHSD.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for that great text. I mean, just going

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Speaker 4: on what the Prime Minister has said is that he's

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Speaker 4: open to sending peacekeeping troops to the Ukraine whatever may happen,

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Speaker 4: and he did make the point that it's a long

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Speaker 4: way to go, but also use the phrase we're usually

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Speaker 4: in lockstep with the Brits. But right we sent peacekeeping

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Speaker 4: troops or our troops to Afghanistan as part of the

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Speaker 4: PRT and what happened there was we were stuck in

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Speaker 4: a very complicated, messy conflict within Afghanistan until we had

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Speaker 4: to pull our troops out in twenty twenty one. What

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Speaker 4: I my opposition to this is we may find ourselves

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Speaker 4: in that situation in Ukraine. Nobody knows what's going to

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Speaker 4: happen in the long run if we do send peacekeeping

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Speaker 4: troops into Ukraine. Is that a possibility? Love to hear

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Speaker 4: from you? Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: ninety two ninety it was a text number. It is

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Speaker 4: twenty nine bus two headlines with.

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Speaker 15: Blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 15: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Ray Lean and having a very

1148
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Speaker 4: good discussion about whether we should ever contemplate sending peace

1149
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Speaker 4: keeping troops to Ukraine on the back of some comments

1150
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Speaker 4: from our Prime Minister Chris Luxon this morning. It's certainly

1151
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Speaker 4: been a passionist.

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Speaker 2: Yet I've really enjoyed it. I feel like I'm learning

1153
00:59:53,013 --> 00:59:54,613
Speaker 2: a bit of stuff here as well. It's great talking

1154
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Speaker 2: to people that have actually been peacekeepers, and that's the

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Speaker 2: great thing about being on u Stork SEDB. You talk

1156
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Speaker 2: about a topic and people that have actually been there

1157
01:00:02,013 --> 01:00:04,373
Speaker 2: on the ground will ring up and tell you about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you now, Marcus. That call from Marcus was fantastic,

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01:00:07,933 --> 01:00:10,973
Speaker 2: So Luxon told News Talks zb's my costing that we'd

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01:00:10,973 --> 01:00:14,013
Speaker 2: be open to sending peacekeepers into the Ukraine, but feels

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Speaker 2: that's a long way to go, so it's we're not

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Speaker 2: anywhere near that. But he also said we're usually in

1163
01:00:20,533 --> 01:00:24,733
Speaker 2: lockstep with the Brits, which was interesting to re reiterate

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Speaker 2: that because obviously historically we've been in lockstep with the Brits.

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Speaker 2: But right now America's our second biggest trading partner. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: after so after China, So you.

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Speaker 4: Know, should we be in locks yeah?

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Speaker 2: O one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 2: to call. Sean Sorry one good a your.

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Speaker 20: Thoughts, Hey, get hey guys, a very good topic this afternoon.

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Speaker 20: We'll keep it civil. We absolutely should not get involved

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01:00:55,213 --> 01:00:59,853
Speaker 20: in this because this particular war, like I mean, you

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01:00:59,933 --> 01:01:03,133
Speaker 20: had the peacekeeper go earlier where he went out like

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Speaker 20: for example of Cause and like Sudan and still more

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Speaker 20: where there were people put actually killing each other, and

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Speaker 20: you would want peacekeepers to help with the humanitarian that's amazing.

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Speaker 20: But this Ukraine war, it's not something as so easy

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01:01:18,453 --> 01:01:21,453
Speaker 20: sold as good guys and bad guys, or like the

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01:01:21,493 --> 01:01:26,293
Speaker 20: other lady said, who's democracy and who's not democracy? I

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01:01:26,373 --> 01:01:31,013
Speaker 20: believe Ukraine, the poor Ukrainian people were sacrificed, were ultimately

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01:01:31,133 --> 01:01:36,133
Speaker 20: used by America to do its war with Ukraine, and

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01:01:36,613 --> 01:01:39,053
Speaker 20: this is something we should not be involved with because

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01:01:39,133 --> 01:01:42,133
Speaker 20: it's not as simple as being the good guys and

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01:01:42,173 --> 01:01:47,653
Speaker 20: the bad guys anymore. It's quite corrupt on all the sides, unfortunately,

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01:01:48,053 --> 01:01:51,853
Speaker 20: and I think we should keep our help purely for

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01:01:52,413 --> 01:01:57,093
Speaker 20: helping people, humanitarian even I'll go as far as yes,

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01:01:57,133 --> 01:02:00,933
Speaker 20: if there is, like God forbid, another wrong story, yes

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01:02:01,013 --> 01:02:02,813
Speaker 20: we have to go there and make a stop for it,

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Speaker 20: and as long as the whole world.

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Speaker 3: Is with it.

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Speaker 20: But this something, it's like, yeah, it's too if he

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01:02:09,053 --> 01:02:11,333
Speaker 20: it's too fishy, there's too.

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Speaker 19: Much bad blood.

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Speaker 20: If some people call it civil war, I mean to me,

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Speaker 20: it's another proxy war being.

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Speaker 16: Used by them.

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Speaker 20: And at the end the Americans they leave in NATO

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Speaker 20: and they leave in the Europeans on their own.

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Speaker 2: Sean. If you don't mammy asking what what's your excine.

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Speaker 16: I'm originally from Iraq.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, I was trying to Patrick. How long

1202
01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:34,093
Speaker 2: have you been in New Zealand for.

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Speaker 20: That's twenty nine years?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow?

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Speaker 12: Really?

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01:02:38,173 --> 01:02:40,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, I think from Iraq you'd obviously,

1207
01:02:41,493 --> 01:02:45,133
Speaker 2: you know, be very aware of the horrors of war.

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Speaker 20: Oh yes, I'm so bad. I've seen the Iran War,

1209
01:02:50,093 --> 01:02:54,173
Speaker 20: but the Golf War was the closest one because kind

1210
01:02:54,213 --> 01:02:57,333
Speaker 20: of the whole country became the battlefield.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I tell you, yeah, I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 20: It was. It was a bad one, and America is

1213
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Speaker 20: not really when they go I knew they go hard

1214
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Speaker 20: on you.

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Speaker 2: Being being someone that's been so close to and being

1216
01:03:11,973 --> 01:03:14,973
Speaker 2: from a country that has been absolutely ravaged by war.

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Speaker 2: How does that change your view of of of just

1218
01:03:19,133 --> 01:03:20,093
Speaker 2: conflicts in general.

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Speaker 20: They should not happen. It is a waste of waste

1220
01:03:27,693 --> 01:03:33,893
Speaker 20: of lives, waste of people, waste of men, children, resources.

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01:03:34,493 --> 01:03:35,733
Speaker 16: It's stupid.

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Speaker 20: It's absolutely not worth it. And I've seen, like I

1223
01:03:39,613 --> 01:03:42,693
Speaker 20: mean when I watch these videos now and now you

1224
01:03:42,693 --> 01:03:45,013
Speaker 20: can see them all. It's not just Ukraine as I mean,

1225
01:03:45,133 --> 01:03:50,293
Speaker 20: a much more horrible story down by God, it's horror

1226
01:03:51,173 --> 01:03:55,973
Speaker 20: and yeah, and especially when it's both for these wars

1227
01:03:55,973 --> 01:04:00,133
Speaker 20: are and ethical, both of them. They have these innocent

1228
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Speaker 20: people dying for someone else's benefits and profits. And Ukraine

1229
01:04:06,613 --> 01:04:08,253
Speaker 20: is going to get nothing out of this at the end.

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Speaker 20: I mean, I don't even think they will. We will

1231
01:04:11,053 --> 01:04:14,413
Speaker 20: have peace keeping forces in Ukraine because this whole thing

1232
01:04:14,493 --> 01:04:18,493
Speaker 20: started with booting one thing, NATO in Ukraine. So do

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01:04:18,533 --> 01:04:21,493
Speaker 20: you really think he's going to allow British troops to

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01:04:21,533 --> 01:04:26,013
Speaker 20: be in Ukraine? No way, no way, even after all this,

1235
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Speaker 20: I mean, yes, Ukraine is still standing after three bloody

1236
01:04:30,333 --> 01:04:34,253
Speaker 20: wars because the entire West was supporting it. But just

1237
01:04:34,293 --> 01:04:37,493
Speaker 20: go count to the numbers of graves they have now,

1238
01:04:37,853 --> 01:04:40,493
Speaker 20: of all these soldiers, of these young men. That's a

1239
01:04:40,653 --> 01:04:43,893
Speaker 20: meat grinder and it has to stop. No One is

1240
01:04:43,933 --> 01:04:47,253
Speaker 20: gaining nothing of it, no one except their military industry

1241
01:04:47,333 --> 01:04:50,413
Speaker 20: is probably making lots of money selling all weapons for

1242
01:04:50,533 --> 01:04:51,573
Speaker 20: both both sides.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, thank you so much for your call. And

1244
01:04:53,573 --> 01:04:58,173
Speaker 2: that's a very unique perspective on the situation inside I

1245
01:04:58,173 --> 01:05:03,173
Speaker 2: mean Iraq, my god, Yeah, what the horrors Yeah, absolutely,

1246
01:05:03,173 --> 01:05:06,773
Speaker 2: I mean the horrors of war on display there. Greg

1247
01:05:07,293 --> 01:05:08,213
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

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01:05:09,253 --> 01:05:11,933
Speaker 21: Yeah, I was calling about. I think it was Marris

1249
01:05:12,693 --> 01:05:15,893
Speaker 21: who said that, you know, it was all the West's

1250
01:05:15,893 --> 01:05:20,533
Speaker 21: fault because they pushed NATO east. And well what happened

1251
01:05:20,853 --> 01:05:25,653
Speaker 21: was that the German, British and Americans did agree with

1252
01:05:25,693 --> 01:05:29,333
Speaker 21: Gorbachev not to push NATO east, but they didn't push

1253
01:05:29,373 --> 01:05:32,413
Speaker 21: it east. The Eastern States, the former Soviet states of

1254
01:05:32,453 --> 01:05:36,453
Speaker 21: the Baltic States, moved west. They no longer wanted to

1255
01:05:36,453 --> 01:05:39,253
Speaker 21: be part of the Warsaw Pact, wanted to come to

1256
01:05:39,293 --> 01:05:41,653
Speaker 21: the West, and that's why they joined NATO. So we

1257
01:05:41,693 --> 01:05:44,773
Speaker 21: didn't ask them to join. We didn't push east, they

1258
01:05:44,813 --> 01:05:49,773
Speaker 21: pushed west. And I think that Putin's dangerous. Have you

1259
01:05:49,813 --> 01:05:52,973
Speaker 21: guys read books by Bill Browdick, Call Read Notice and

1260
01:05:53,053 --> 01:05:59,213
Speaker 21: Freezing Order? Okay, In the last one Freezing Order, he

1261
01:05:59,213 --> 01:06:02,893
Speaker 21: actually puts a PostScript and he says, ultimately, there are

1262
01:06:02,893 --> 01:06:06,453
Speaker 21: only two ways this terrible situation will be resolved. Either

1263
01:06:06,533 --> 01:06:09,013
Speaker 21: Russia wins the war or Ukraine wins the war.

1264
01:06:09,053 --> 01:06:09,413
Speaker 8: That's it.

1265
01:06:10,093 --> 01:06:12,693
Speaker 21: If Russia wins, this won't be the end of Putin's

1266
01:06:12,733 --> 01:06:15,653
Speaker 21: military adventures. I promise you this. The next stop will

1267
01:06:15,653 --> 01:06:19,133
Speaker 21: be Estonia, Lithuania or Poland your point, as guns at

1268
01:06:19,173 --> 01:06:22,813
Speaker 21: these countries, and as nuclear missiles at London, Berlin and Washington.

1269
01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:26,173
Speaker 21: You'll then sit back and smirk as we debate whether

1270
01:06:26,213 --> 01:06:30,173
Speaker 21: we're serious about enforcing NATO's Article five, the doctrine of

1271
01:06:30,173 --> 01:06:32,733
Speaker 21: common sense for all, all for one, and one for all.

1272
01:06:33,253 --> 01:06:35,933
Speaker 21: You'll laugh as our politicians and pundits go on TV

1273
01:06:36,573 --> 01:06:39,373
Speaker 21: and descend into endless sniping about the merits of risking

1274
01:06:39,373 --> 01:06:42,293
Speaker 21: millions of lives and countless treasure to engage in an

1275
01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:44,213
Speaker 21: all out war with Russian Well.

1276
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Speaker 4: It sounds like an interesting read, Greg, But that aside,

1277
01:06:46,973 --> 01:06:49,573
Speaker 4: I mean, that is the concern here, the fog of war.

1278
01:06:49,693 --> 01:06:53,893
Speaker 4: Whatever is the strategy of Putin or the strategy of

1279
01:06:54,013 --> 01:06:57,693
Speaker 4: Ukraine and America and everybody else involved on the periphery

1280
01:06:57,733 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 4: of this conflict, it is not something I think New

1281
01:07:00,013 --> 01:07:01,653
Speaker 4: Zealand should be a part of. Do you think we

1282
01:07:01,693 --> 01:07:04,173
Speaker 4: should be a part of it, even in a peacekeeping.

1283
01:07:03,653 --> 01:07:07,773
Speaker 21: Role, Well, we're usually pretty good at it. But I

1284
01:07:07,853 --> 01:07:12,173
Speaker 21: just don't getting to that point. I don't think there

1285
01:07:12,173 --> 01:07:14,653
Speaker 21: will be there can be peace. I don't think Putin

1286
01:07:14,693 --> 01:07:18,813
Speaker 21: wants it. He's in a dangerous place. I was actually

1287
01:07:18,813 --> 01:07:21,813
Speaker 21: living in Tubilisi in Georgia when the war broke out,

1288
01:07:22,853 --> 01:07:25,773
Speaker 21: and in the six months while we were there after

1289
01:07:25,813 --> 01:07:29,093
Speaker 21: the war broke out, there were one hundred thousand Russians

1290
01:07:29,093 --> 01:07:31,173
Speaker 21: came into Tblisi to escape the draft.

1291
01:07:31,453 --> 01:07:32,653
Speaker 4: Well, what were you doing there?

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Speaker 21: My wife was posted there, right.

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Speaker 4: And what was the reaction of Georgians when initially that

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Speaker 21: Well, they never really liked the Russians because they were

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Speaker 21: attacked by Russia in two thousand and eight, they got

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Speaker 21: to within forty five minutes of Tblisi. So and you

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Speaker 21: know there's been they love to demonstrate in Georgia, so

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Speaker 21: they've got we were there a few times, you know,

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Speaker 21: there and they were protesting about a Russian polititician had

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Speaker 21: speakers thrown of Georgian parliament and they didn't like that.

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Speaker 21: They've now got problems because the parliament they've just gone

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Speaker 21: through an election and it was so finely balanced and

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Speaker 21: the Russian supporters just got in. So there's been lots

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Speaker 21: of demonstrations in the streets and debleasing about that from

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Speaker 21: the Georgian people who are loyal to Georgia.

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Speaker 2: What did the Georgians think of these hundred thousand, I

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Speaker 2: guess you'd call them Russian refugees or Russians that came

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Speaker 2: over there that didn't want to be conscripted into the army.

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Speaker 2: Did they welcome them with open arms?

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Speaker 21: They welcomed their rubles. Georgia is quite a poor country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so with NATO, so from a Russian perspective though,

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Speaker 2: you see, you know, Sweden joining NATO in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: it seems to be getting bigger and bigger. So you've

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Speaker 2: got thirty two NATO countries and you've got Russia sitting there.

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Speaker 2: Can you see from their perspective at all playing devil's

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Speaker 2: advocate that NATO exists to restrict Russia's ambitions in Europe?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much? Can you see from Russia's perspective that Ukraine

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Speaker 2: joining NATO would seem like a just maybe a step

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Speaker 2: too far for them?

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Speaker 21: Oh, certainly the Russians would think that. But if you

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Speaker 21: think about the fact that Sweden, you know, a neutral

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Speaker 21: state for five hundred years, has chosen now to join NATO.

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Speaker 21: They only chose to join NATO because Russia invaded Ukraine.

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Speaker 21: If that hadn't happened, Sweden would still be a neutral

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Speaker 21: state and not part of not part of NATO.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I mean there are states that there are

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Speaker 2: states that border Russia that are parts of NATO. Of course, Finland,

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Speaker 2: for example, Norway.

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Speaker 21: Finland only just joined as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah at Poland as nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, Poland, that's another one of those states that

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Speaker 21: was part of the Soviet Union, attached to the Soviet Union,

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Speaker 21: but when the breakup came they didn't want to be

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Speaker 21: part of it anymore. But it's called the Warsaw Pack

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Speaker 21: to the capital of Poland, and they chose to leave

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Speaker 21: the Warsaw Pack. So these choices have been made by

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Speaker 21: those eastern states. It wasn't the West chasing them.

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Speaker 4: I believe Poland has quite a formidable military force now,

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Speaker 4: don't they. They've been building that up for some time.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: If you read a book by Tim Mitchell called Prisoners

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Speaker 21: of Geography, he explains how Poland has been a battleground

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Speaker 21: for the last thousand years because it's on it's three

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Speaker 21: hundred kilometers of flat land between the Baltic Sea and

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Speaker 21: the Urals, and of course the armies of yesteryear have

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Speaker 21: just gone backwards and forwards, fighting each other from west

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Speaker 21: to east and back again.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the interesting thing when you bring up that,

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Speaker 2: I mean these that Europe has just been a rolling

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Speaker 2: dumpster fire for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years. Really,

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Speaker 2: so many different countries that in that zone, which is

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Speaker 2: why after World War Two. After World War One, people

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Speaker 2: thought that maybe we'd stop with this this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But then there was World War Two and NATO was

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Speaker 2: really formed just to maybe hold, you know, bring Europe

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Speaker 2: together and not continue those things. But yeah, when you

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Speaker 2: talk about Poland, the horrors that have happened in Poland

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Speaker 2: across history, it's and not even that long ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's exactly. It's just it's just really horrible to read about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but just bringing it back, Greg And I know

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Speaker 4: you said in your view, will never come to us

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Speaker 4: having peacekeeping troops on the ground, but we are sending

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Speaker 4: significant amounts of money into funds for medical equipment for

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Speaker 4: you know, work on the periphery, so we are involved

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Speaker 4: to some extent. Do you think that's a mistake we

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Speaker 4: need to pull back on that funding.

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Speaker 21: No, I think that something's fine. I think you know,

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Speaker 21: that's the one thing we can do. Let the the

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Speaker 21: big powers that can send the munitions they can do that.

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Speaker 21: We can play our part because at the end of

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Speaker 21: the day, Putin invaded a sovereign state.

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Speaker 2: Any plans to head back to Georgia anytime soon.

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Speaker 21: Greet No, No, I'm I'm based on Vietnam now saying

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Speaker 21: oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well there's there's a place with there's

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Speaker 2: a place with some history as well.

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Speaker 4: All okay, at the moment, though, thank god.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thank you so much for your call. Greg,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten. Cheers Greg, Oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It

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Speaker 4: is fourteen to three.

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Speaker 9: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 9: ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety tick

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Speaker 1: every box, a seamless experience, awaits news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good afternoon, Matt and Tyler says this text

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Speaker 2: on nine two nine two. From my experience in the

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Speaker 2: military and post protection in the UK, both Labor and

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Speaker 2: the Coalition have kit New Zealand aid and active ally

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Speaker 2: to Ukraine eighteen million weapons eighteen million dollars in weapons

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Speaker 2: alone to kill Russians. Plus we're active and surveillance and

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Speaker 2: military training. Hardly a neutral standing point for a peacekeeping

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Speaker 2: force eligibility top lockstep with UK Boris Johnson is quoted

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Speaker 2: to stop Russia at all costs, including boots on the ground.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's the thing. We would not at

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Speaker 2: this point be seen as particularly neutral in a situation,

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Speaker 2: a peacekeeping situation. You wouldn't think Ellen. Welcome to the show. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 14: Ellen, Okay, the previous guy was just about right on it.

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Speaker 22: All.

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Speaker 14: Poland is death and NATO and Europe wanted Poland in

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Speaker 14: because it has the biggest land mass of troops under arms.

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Speaker 14: It has one million soldiers under arms today. No other

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Speaker 14: European country has that many people under arms. But that's

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Speaker 14: their entire military force that is ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Do you know how much of their GDP they put

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Speaker 4: into their military. That might be an unfair question, but

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Speaker 4: you know they talk about the two percent of NATO.

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Speaker 2: That's what The Polands increased their investment in the military

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Speaker 2: by hundreds of several hundred percent, haven't they in recent years.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, it's a carry on from when Russia invaded them.

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Speaker 14: So they put themselves in a position that they could

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Speaker 14: stand up and put up a fight if Russia was

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Speaker 14: to try it again. Smart and that is why they

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Speaker 14: have that many soldiers under armed.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you carry on, Ellen.

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Speaker 14: Oh. Then Sweden was the last one to join NATO,

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Speaker 14: and they agreed to. Sweden joined because Sweden is very

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Speaker 14: high tech and it builds military Their aircraft top notch,

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Speaker 14: and that's why Europe wanted them. So Sweden's made us

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Speaker 14: money through building the moment, then Poland has the nnpair

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Speaker 14: being coupled it with what Europe can build and supply

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Speaker 14: up they make a pretty strong force between all of them.

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Speaker 2: I so Poland's defense spending has risen to four point

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Speaker 2: seven percent of its GDP. That is that is right

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Speaker 2: up there. What do we say, it's thirty six billion

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Speaker 2: dollars they're spending on the thirty five billion defense build

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, good sea, But it's a big country.

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Speaker 14: It's not biger than what we are.

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Speaker 9: Like.

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Speaker 14: On top of that, you've got to look at the

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Speaker 14: scenario of Poland has been right in there with Ukraine

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Speaker 14: since the day of the invasion. They've been repairing tanks

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Speaker 14: for the Armlament. Yeah all Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call. Ellen,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Very interesting. On eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna rent this up very shortly. It is eight

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Speaker 4: two three.

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Speaker 9: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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Speaker 9: along the way.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo XC eighty Innovation,

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Speaker 1: Style and design.

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Speaker 2: Have it all youth talks, they'd be Johnny, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show. Your thoughts on peacekeeping in the Ukraine, Johnny, it's.

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Speaker 23: Funny, yes, yeah, hi, I was just watching a couple

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Speaker 23: of things on YouTube. You say about Ukraine and some

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Speaker 23: of the civilians that have been killed by units, Russian units,

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Speaker 23: and just despicable and kind of reminds me of the

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Speaker 23: way the Russians behaves in Germany after the war, with

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Speaker 23: the rape of women.

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Speaker 19: And just outright murder.

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Speaker 23: I'm really against sending peacekeepers. I'll tell you why. Both

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Speaker 23: my uncles went over to Malaya Borneo with you in

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Speaker 23: they are involved in fighting communists. My dad went to

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Speaker 23: what was supposed to be called a police action in

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Speaker 23: Vietnam and got sprayed with agent orange. My brother went

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Speaker 23: to Somalia with UNISOM and United Nations Protection Forces Bosnia Herzegovina.

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Speaker 23: Our family have got numerous mental scars and PTSD that's

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Speaker 23: intergenerational now as a result of our service in theaters

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Speaker 23: of combat. This term peacekeeping often is applied very liberally,

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Speaker 23: where soldiers stand around while people were murdered by insurgents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hey, well, thank you so much for that, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: and sorry to hear that we are unfortunately out of time.

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Speaker 4: And it was nicely said though Johnny Quick a couple

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Speaker 4: of texts to wrap up.

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Speaker 2: It turns out this was an excellent chat. Apologies for

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Speaker 2: getting wound up earlier, but I believe we need to

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Speaker 2: be accurate with the information that was being discussed. Well

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Speaker 2: done gents, and sorry again for me grumpy. Hey, we

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Speaker 2: love all text nineteen ninety two being grumpy and we're

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Speaker 2: just new to the show, so feedback on our performance

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Speaker 2: is appreciated.

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Speaker 4: No need for apologies. We love a bit of passion,

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Speaker 4: don't we.

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Speaker 22: Right.

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Speaker 4: That is where we'll leave that discussion because we'll have

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Speaker 4: something new on the table after three o'clock, something we

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Speaker 4: know you'll love. New Sport and Weather on its way

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Speaker 9: Home for insightful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Maddie and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC

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Speaker 1: Nighty on.

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Speaker 4: News Talk SEV Good Afternoon seven pass three. Welcome back

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Speaker 4: into the show.

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Speaker 2: Huge two hour chat. Yeah on the Ukraine and peacekeeping

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Speaker 2: and New Zealand's involvement in that whole situation. And loved it.

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Speaker 2: There's a real bummer we had to drop Johnny off.

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Speaker 2: He was telling a really interesting story about his family

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Speaker 2: and what they've gone through in conflicts representing New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sorry to Johnny, but what you might not

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Speaker 2: know is that the show automatic. He goes to ads.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't stop. It has to play and ads

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Speaker 4: have to play as well.

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Speaker 2: So I would have loved to talk to Johnny a

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Speaker 2: little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but good discussion of the last couple of hours

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Speaker 4: on to another topic, something that is pretty close to

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Speaker 4: your heart.

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Speaker 2: Met he Yeah, that's right. So it just seems today

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Speaker 2: that maybe we both just tuned into the My Cost

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Speaker 2: and Breakfast and stole two pieces of content from the

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01:19:34,933 --> 01:19:38,012
Speaker 2: Christopher Luxe interview, one piece which we've been talking about

1508
01:19:38,053 --> 01:19:40,492
Speaker 2: for two hours, and then another thing that he discussed

1509
01:19:40,492 --> 01:19:45,053
Speaker 2: that was not quite as controversial but certainly sort of

1510
01:19:45,093 --> 01:19:46,292
Speaker 2: fired up a bit of discussion.

1511
01:19:46,692 --> 01:19:48,852
Speaker 6: Did you do anything for Valentine's Day?

1512
01:19:48,893 --> 01:19:51,293
Speaker 7: Do you know what I didn't? Actually, because every day

1513
01:19:51,333 --> 01:19:53,612
Speaker 7: is Valentine's Day and the Luxe and household you know.

1514
01:19:53,692 --> 01:19:56,012
Speaker 6: Is that a your wife is sick of hearing.

1515
01:19:58,173 --> 01:19:59,812
Speaker 2: That's a reason for no.

1516
01:19:59,933 --> 01:20:02,732
Speaker 7: We sat down, I think we had dinner on our

1517
01:20:02,812 --> 01:20:05,812
Speaker 7: laps and I think we started watching there was some

1518
01:20:05,853 --> 01:20:07,333
Speaker 7: Netflix show we started getting into.

1519
01:20:07,572 --> 01:20:10,693
Speaker 6: Stop eating on your knee. It's not healthy.

1520
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:16,213
Speaker 2: This is the body hecker that's right now. This is

1521
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:18,932
Speaker 2: something I'm very personate, passionate about. And then it's eating

1522
01:20:19,013 --> 01:20:22,692
Speaker 2: dinner around the table. And I'm not judging our Prime

1523
01:20:22,732 --> 01:20:26,852
Speaker 2: minister at all. His kids have flown the coop. It's

1524
01:20:26,893 --> 01:20:28,772
Speaker 2: just him and his lovely wife sitting on the couch

1525
01:20:28,853 --> 01:20:31,572
Speaker 2: eating their dinner on their knees. But I've got this

1526
01:20:31,692 --> 01:20:34,492
Speaker 2: personal bug beer with that. I think food should be

1527
01:20:34,732 --> 01:20:38,612
Speaker 2: enough to entertain us. I think you know, you make

1528
01:20:38,692 --> 01:20:41,253
Speaker 2: some food and then you rush around to find the

1529
01:20:41,372 --> 01:20:43,452
Speaker 2: show that you're going to watch on TV while you eat.

1530
01:20:44,093 --> 01:20:48,253
Speaker 2: I think modern humans rover stimulate. We need to just

1531
01:20:48,572 --> 01:20:50,612
Speaker 2: enjoy the food that is in front of us. And

1532
01:20:50,652 --> 01:20:53,293
Speaker 2: especially when you've got kids, I think that eating around

1533
01:20:53,333 --> 01:20:56,093
Speaker 2: the table is one of the most important things that

1534
01:20:56,133 --> 01:21:00,253
Speaker 2: you can do as a parent. And no phones, no TV,

1535
01:21:00,893 --> 01:21:03,812
Speaker 2: and look, your kids might not love this, but you

1536
01:21:03,853 --> 01:21:06,372
Speaker 2: sit around and you attempt to have a conversation with them,

1537
01:21:06,412 --> 01:21:08,492
Speaker 2: and you attempt to appreciate the food that is being

1538
01:21:08,572 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 2: surpribed for you. That you're lucky enough to have.

1539
01:21:10,532 --> 01:21:12,852
Speaker 4: Just good old conversation like we used to do. I'd

1540
01:21:12,893 --> 01:21:15,612
Speaker 4: go a step further, and whether I do this on

1541
01:21:15,652 --> 01:21:18,852
Speaker 4: a regular basis, probably not, But I actually think yes,

1542
01:21:18,973 --> 01:21:21,772
Speaker 4: absolutely important for families, but I think that's important for

1543
01:21:21,812 --> 01:21:24,212
Speaker 4: couples as well. You wouldn't go to a nice restaurant

1544
01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:26,253
Speaker 4: with your partner and then whip out your phone and

1545
01:21:26,293 --> 01:21:28,452
Speaker 4: start watching Netflix. Why are you chimming down on a steak?

1546
01:21:28,452 --> 01:21:28,812
Speaker 4: Would you?

1547
01:21:28,933 --> 01:21:31,532
Speaker 2: How can you be truly thankful for what you're about

1548
01:21:31,532 --> 01:21:34,093
Speaker 2: to eat while you're watching a television show? And I

1549
01:21:34,133 --> 01:21:38,652
Speaker 2: think that dinner time is an opportunity for gratitude in

1550
01:21:38,692 --> 01:21:41,372
Speaker 2: the fact that you live in such a situation that

1551
01:21:41,412 --> 01:21:44,333
Speaker 2: you have the loved ones around you, and that you

1552
01:21:44,452 --> 01:21:47,492
Speaker 2: have food to serve them. I think that's a very

1553
01:21:47,572 --> 01:21:51,333
Speaker 2: very important thing. And even in a relationship. And look,

1554
01:21:52,372 --> 01:21:54,852
Speaker 2: I feel like we're dumping on the I feel like

1555
01:21:54,853 --> 01:21:57,412
Speaker 2: we're dumping on the PM here.

1556
01:21:58,093 --> 01:22:00,412
Speaker 4: We did it on Valentine's Day as well as come

1557
01:22:00,452 --> 01:22:02,892
Speaker 4: on Prime Minister, there's a love But.

1558
01:22:02,893 --> 01:22:05,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you

1559
01:22:06,173 --> 01:22:09,133
Speaker 2: sit around at the table and feed your kids and

1560
01:22:09,692 --> 01:22:12,532
Speaker 2: have that conversation and do the old fashioned thing or

1561
01:22:12,652 --> 01:22:15,092
Speaker 2: are used just serving up the food on the couch

1562
01:22:15,133 --> 01:22:20,452
Speaker 2: while you watch some punishing series or worse, still getting

1563
01:22:20,492 --> 01:22:22,293
Speaker 2: to a huge family argument about what you're going to

1564
01:22:22,333 --> 01:22:25,052
Speaker 2: watch when you're sitting on the couch. Shouldn't the food

1565
01:22:25,093 --> 01:22:29,652
Speaker 2: that we serve be enough to stimulate us in our lives?

1566
01:22:30,013 --> 01:22:32,972
Speaker 2: How pampered are we? Where we need to not only

1567
01:22:32,973 --> 01:22:36,412
Speaker 2: be entertained by the delicious fear that's been served, but

1568
01:22:36,532 --> 01:22:40,412
Speaker 2: also need to have our eyeballs massage by some kind

1569
01:22:40,452 --> 01:22:41,813
Speaker 2: of entertainment.

1570
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:45,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, so give us a call. We're not going to judge.

1571
01:22:45,853 --> 01:22:48,173
Speaker 4: Nine two is the text number? Oh, eight hundred eighty

1572
01:22:48,333 --> 01:22:51,812
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call. It is eleven

1573
01:22:51,853 --> 01:22:56,852
Speaker 4: past three News Talks. It'd be thirteen past three, and

1574
01:22:56,893 --> 01:22:59,732
Speaker 4: we're talking about sitting down at the dinner table with

1575
01:22:59,853 --> 01:23:02,692
Speaker 4: your family or your lovely partner. Is it important to

1576
01:23:02,692 --> 01:23:05,812
Speaker 4: you rather than eating tea with it on your lap

1577
01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:07,652
Speaker 4: like our Prime Minister Christoph Luxan does.

1578
01:23:08,532 --> 01:23:09,972
Speaker 2: Is the text number? Oh eight, one hundred and eighty

1579
01:23:10,093 --> 01:23:12,533
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number? Give us a call.

1580
01:23:12,772 --> 01:23:12,972
Speaker 12: Hmm.

1581
01:23:13,013 --> 01:23:14,852
Speaker 2: I wonder what Matt's opinion on this is. He's not

1582
01:23:14,893 --> 01:23:15,892
Speaker 2: made it very care Yeah.

1583
01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:16,173
Speaker 16: Are you?

1584
01:23:16,253 --> 01:23:18,492
Speaker 4: Are you pro at the dinner table or.

1585
01:23:18,572 --> 01:23:20,572
Speaker 2: I think you've got to. You've got to for what

1586
01:23:20,572 --> 01:23:22,892
Speaker 2: we're about to eat. Maybe be truly thankful. You've got

1587
01:23:22,893 --> 01:23:25,253
Speaker 2: to sit around the table. You gotta look into each

1588
01:23:25,253 --> 01:23:28,092
Speaker 2: other's eyes and ask your kids what they did today.

1589
01:23:28,133 --> 01:23:31,453
Speaker 2: So they cannot remember a single thing from school, amazingly

1590
01:23:31,612 --> 01:23:34,932
Speaker 2: sounds intense. I mean, that's that's the biggest failing of children,

1591
01:23:35,612 --> 01:23:38,213
Speaker 2: is the inability to ever come home with a single

1592
01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:41,253
Speaker 2: story to tell their dad from hold at school. You

1593
01:23:41,333 --> 01:23:44,692
Speaker 2: ask them no memories at all, what happened at lunchtime?

1594
01:23:44,933 --> 01:23:48,213
Speaker 4: Whatx and a half hours, kids, something must have happened.

1595
01:23:48,253 --> 01:23:51,852
Speaker 2: What they're subjects were? Mitchell, welcome to the show your thoughts.

1596
01:23:52,652 --> 01:23:53,572
Speaker 24: Hey, guys, how you're doing?

1597
01:23:53,812 --> 01:23:54,012
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1598
01:23:54,093 --> 01:23:54,572
Speaker 12: Really good?

1599
01:23:54,732 --> 01:23:58,772
Speaker 24: We round the table was really important for us when

1600
01:23:58,893 --> 01:24:04,532
Speaker 24: our kids were little. We my oldest is thirty, and

1601
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:07,173
Speaker 24: so we we would we would, we would go around

1602
01:24:07,213 --> 01:24:10,973
Speaker 24: the table and each person had to say three things

1603
01:24:11,093 --> 01:24:13,532
Speaker 24: that that three good things that happened to them in

1604
01:24:13,612 --> 01:24:16,692
Speaker 24: the day. And I went to school and came home.

1605
01:24:17,013 --> 01:24:19,213
Speaker 24: Was never going to cut the mustard. So they had

1606
01:24:19,253 --> 01:24:22,133
Speaker 24: to be specific about what they did in the day.

1607
01:24:22,173 --> 01:24:23,932
Speaker 24: And it could have been on the weekend too, What

1608
01:24:24,013 --> 01:24:27,052
Speaker 24: three things did you do today that you really enjoyed.

1609
01:24:27,612 --> 01:24:29,772
Speaker 24: One of my kids, one of my daughters, she would

1610
01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:30,492
Speaker 24: always give.

1611
01:24:30,333 --> 01:24:31,452
Speaker 10: What we called the long version.

1612
01:24:31,532 --> 01:24:33,173
Speaker 24: You know, I got up at eighty Gold this morning

1613
01:24:33,213 --> 01:24:33,732
Speaker 24: and I got.

1614
01:24:33,572 --> 01:24:34,973
Speaker 2: The buck to school.

1615
01:24:35,452 --> 01:24:38,372
Speaker 24: But it was really important for us to know what

1616
01:24:38,412 --> 01:24:41,372
Speaker 24: the kids were doing, because when you started to build

1617
01:24:41,372 --> 01:24:45,612
Speaker 24: a routine, when something was off, you noticed, and so

1618
01:24:45,652 --> 01:24:47,572
Speaker 24: that was that was really important for us. But also

1619
01:24:47,652 --> 01:24:49,492
Speaker 24: it was important for us to send a message to

1620
01:24:49,572 --> 01:24:52,892
Speaker 24: our kids that we were interested in what they had

1621
01:24:52,933 --> 01:24:55,812
Speaker 24: going on, so we did so that was really important

1622
01:24:55,812 --> 01:24:58,772
Speaker 24: for us. Now, my youngest daughter, she's now only sixteen,

1623
01:24:58,812 --> 01:25:01,452
Speaker 24: so there's nine years between three and four. So the

1624
01:25:01,492 --> 01:25:03,452
Speaker 24: older kids had gone, they're all moved out of home

1625
01:25:03,492 --> 01:25:07,333
Speaker 24: and into the grandkids stage. But the younger one we

1626
01:25:07,492 --> 01:25:11,572
Speaker 24: you know, she's brought up in the Facebook, iPhone social

1627
01:25:11,612 --> 01:25:15,492
Speaker 24: media era that the older three won't. And so we

1628
01:25:15,612 --> 01:25:18,852
Speaker 24: now have a meal just with her in the living

1629
01:25:18,933 --> 01:25:22,412
Speaker 24: room on the couch watching a program that we all

1630
01:25:22,452 --> 01:25:24,412
Speaker 24: agree that we're going to watch together. So we all

1631
01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:27,133
Speaker 24: have to agree to watch this one program and then

1632
01:25:27,572 --> 01:25:29,532
Speaker 24: that's an opportunity for us to sit.

1633
01:25:29,372 --> 01:25:31,012
Speaker 19: Down with her one on one.

1634
01:25:31,532 --> 01:25:34,213
Speaker 24: Two kept her out of her bedroom, so she's like

1635
01:25:34,253 --> 01:25:36,652
Speaker 24: one of these teenagers that's sort of you know, she

1636
01:25:36,692 --> 01:25:38,812
Speaker 24: crawls out of her bedroom at nighttime and gets something

1637
01:25:38,853 --> 01:25:40,852
Speaker 24: to eat and somebody to drink and then scrawls back

1638
01:25:40,853 --> 01:25:43,772
Speaker 24: to her bedroom. You know, So we don't get to

1639
01:25:43,772 --> 01:25:46,412
Speaker 24: spend the whole evening with her, but that that hour

1640
01:25:46,452 --> 01:25:48,932
Speaker 24: that we watched that program could be down maybe could

1641
01:25:48,973 --> 01:25:52,133
Speaker 24: be who knows what, right, that's that hour that we

1642
01:25:52,253 --> 01:25:57,372
Speaker 24: can talk with her while we're having a meal. That

1643
01:25:57,372 --> 01:25:59,692
Speaker 24: that that is something that we couldn't do with the

1644
01:25:59,732 --> 01:26:02,452
Speaker 24: older three, but it works for her different. You know,

1645
01:26:02,532 --> 01:26:06,452
Speaker 24: she's a different generation within our kids generation, if that

1646
01:26:06,492 --> 01:26:06,932
Speaker 24: makes sense.

1647
01:26:07,253 --> 01:26:07,452
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1648
01:26:07,572 --> 01:26:09,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a gutting hard of parenting when you were

1649
01:26:09,973 --> 01:26:12,612
Speaker 2: kids suddenly decide that you're not the most important thing

1650
01:26:12,612 --> 01:26:14,053
Speaker 2: in the world and they'd rather just be in their

1651
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:18,772
Speaker 2: own That I struggled with that struggle is the kids

1652
01:26:18,772 --> 01:26:22,053
Speaker 2: detached and yeah, hanging out with dad, punishing him for

1653
01:26:22,133 --> 01:26:25,293
Speaker 2: stories when the kitchen table suddenly not the most exciting

1654
01:26:25,333 --> 01:26:25,852
Speaker 2: thing in the world.

1655
01:26:27,293 --> 01:26:29,412
Speaker 24: And that's why we needed to find a different strategy

1656
01:26:29,452 --> 01:26:32,892
Speaker 24: for number four. Yeah, because sitting around the table, because

1657
01:26:32,893 --> 01:26:36,892
Speaker 24: the other three went there, just the dynamic was different.

1658
01:26:37,532 --> 01:26:39,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting the last kid left at home as well.

1659
01:26:39,772 --> 01:26:41,893
Speaker 2: There's a lot of memes online about it that the

1660
01:26:42,213 --> 01:26:44,772
Speaker 2: youngest kid has a very very different experience with their

1661
01:26:44,812 --> 01:26:47,772
Speaker 2: parents than the older ones. My little sister was like that,

1662
01:26:47,893 --> 01:26:50,333
Speaker 2: she felt like we all abandoned her, and then yeah,

1663
01:26:50,452 --> 01:26:52,572
Speaker 2: there weren't there weren't that. That's suchually a really good point.

1664
01:26:52,572 --> 01:26:54,612
Speaker 2: There weren't the dinners around the table for her either.

1665
01:26:54,692 --> 01:26:57,173
Speaker 2: In the end, because the parents are like, you've got

1666
01:26:57,213 --> 01:26:59,612
Speaker 2: to their fourth kid or whatever, they moved on. What

1667
01:26:59,692 --> 01:27:02,972
Speaker 2: was the minimum level of story that you'd accept back

1668
01:27:02,973 --> 01:27:04,972
Speaker 2: when you were demanding three stories from your kids?

1669
01:27:06,532 --> 01:27:09,213
Speaker 24: Oh it was. It wasn't a hard fast bridge. Think

1670
01:27:09,732 --> 01:27:11,692
Speaker 24: if they only had two, that was okay. We didn't

1671
01:27:11,692 --> 01:27:12,692
Speaker 24: get the bell tell or anything.

1672
01:27:13,173 --> 01:27:13,772
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.

1673
01:27:13,772 --> 01:27:15,652
Speaker 24: But it's like, you know, if they played that they

1674
01:27:15,853 --> 01:27:17,612
Speaker 24: if they played sport today, or if they had an

1675
01:27:17,612 --> 01:27:20,253
Speaker 24: exen today, or they had a great conversation with a

1676
01:27:20,253 --> 01:27:22,253
Speaker 24: friend today, or they helped someone today you or there

1677
01:27:22,492 --> 01:27:24,892
Speaker 24: they had a puncher on their bike today or so

1678
01:27:24,933 --> 01:27:27,412
Speaker 24: it was like, so, just tell us three interesting or

1679
01:27:27,452 --> 01:27:30,972
Speaker 24: good things that happened today. And if the kids had

1680
01:27:31,013 --> 01:27:34,013
Speaker 24: something that wasn't that flash, yeah, then we would give

1681
01:27:34,053 --> 01:27:36,452
Speaker 24: them an opportunity to share them at the table as well,

1682
01:27:36,853 --> 01:27:38,932
Speaker 24: or they would know that they could come and see

1683
01:27:39,013 --> 01:27:41,133
Speaker 24: us after the meal, and then we could talk about

1684
01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:42,652
Speaker 24: what had happened that wasn't so great.

1685
01:27:42,973 --> 01:27:44,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point because if you're if

1686
01:27:44,612 --> 01:27:46,972
Speaker 2: you're talking to them every day, what you said before

1687
01:27:47,133 --> 01:27:50,253
Speaker 2: around knowing when something's wrong, Because a kid won't necessarily

1688
01:27:50,293 --> 01:27:53,173
Speaker 2: tell you when something's wrong. They'll just say they'll just

1689
01:27:53,173 --> 01:27:55,253
Speaker 2: say you go Howard school and they go good, and

1690
01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:57,532
Speaker 2: they'll say that every day. But if you're actually getting

1691
01:27:57,532 --> 01:28:01,372
Speaker 2: to engage, you can tell when something's off.

1692
01:28:02,372 --> 01:28:03,692
Speaker 24: You can see it in their behavior.

1693
01:28:03,933 --> 01:28:06,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's good training for later in life.

1694
01:28:06,532 --> 01:28:09,333
Speaker 4: Mitchell. You know how many gen z get into the

1695
01:28:09,333 --> 01:28:11,333
Speaker 4: workforce now and they go to a meeting and say, hey,

1696
01:28:11,333 --> 01:28:14,293
Speaker 4: we'll just go round the table and everyone contribute, and

1697
01:28:14,333 --> 01:28:17,772
Speaker 4: they're terrified, absolute terrify. So doing that at the dinner

1698
01:28:17,812 --> 01:28:18,532
Speaker 4: table was good training.

1699
01:28:19,412 --> 01:28:20,973
Speaker 24: And we would make their friends do it when they

1700
01:28:20,973 --> 01:28:21,412
Speaker 24: came over.

1701
01:28:23,812 --> 01:28:24,012
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1702
01:28:24,013 --> 01:28:24,492
Speaker 4: I love it.

1703
01:28:24,692 --> 01:28:28,132
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, thank you so much for you call, Mitchell.

1704
01:28:28,253 --> 01:28:31,812
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. See im and I've talked to you

1705
01:28:31,812 --> 01:28:34,933
Speaker 2: about meetings before. With people, there's too much. Sometimes you

1706
01:28:34,973 --> 01:28:36,293
Speaker 2: just want to talk about what you've been up to

1707
01:28:36,333 --> 01:28:38,732
Speaker 2: on the weekend. I might let's get down to what's happening.

1708
01:28:39,053 --> 01:28:40,973
Speaker 4: Are we here to work or we here to socialize?

1709
01:28:41,013 --> 01:28:41,173
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1710
01:28:41,293 --> 01:28:42,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't need to know what you've

1711
01:28:42,732 --> 01:28:45,092
Speaker 2: been doing in your day before we run into each other, Tyler.

1712
01:28:45,213 --> 01:28:47,333
Speaker 4: Have you never been in that situation though? And it is, Look,

1713
01:28:47,372 --> 01:28:49,572
Speaker 4: it's god awful. Let's be honest. But if you're new

1714
01:28:49,652 --> 01:28:52,173
Speaker 4: to a workplace or you're joining the club and they say, right,

1715
01:28:52,253 --> 01:28:55,013
Speaker 4: let's just go round the room and introduce yourself and

1716
01:28:55,053 --> 01:28:57,572
Speaker 4: tell us one fun fact about yourself, it's terrifying.

1717
01:28:58,293 --> 01:29:00,892
Speaker 2: I love it. I just think it's a waste of time.

1718
01:29:01,253 --> 01:29:03,932
Speaker 2: Pretty hard to talk while you're eating. Was always told

1719
01:29:03,933 --> 01:29:06,612
Speaker 2: not to talk with mouthful? Yeah, I mean that's that's that.

1720
01:29:07,013 --> 01:29:07,612
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

1721
01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:10,612
Speaker 2: You've got a thread there. You got to you gotta wait,

1722
01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:13,333
Speaker 2: You gotta hold your finger up yep, until you swallow

1723
01:29:13,412 --> 01:29:16,053
Speaker 2: that food and can't eat with your mouthful, can't talk

1724
01:29:16,093 --> 01:29:17,972
Speaker 2: with your mouthful. And then you answer the question.

1725
01:29:17,933 --> 01:29:21,333
Speaker 4: All about timing, Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:29:21,692 --> 01:29:23,732
Speaker 4: Is it still important for you as a family or

1727
01:29:23,772 --> 01:29:26,213
Speaker 4: a partnership to eat at the dinner table? Love to

1728
01:29:26,253 --> 01:29:28,173
Speaker 4: hear from you? Nine two ninety two's the text number.

1729
01:29:28,372 --> 01:29:29,452
Speaker 4: It is twenty past three.

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01:29:33,612 --> 01:29:36,972
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

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01:29:37,053 --> 01:29:39,213
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on us talk zib.

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01:29:39,213 --> 01:29:41,812
Speaker 4: Good afternoon, twenty two past three and having a good

1733
01:29:41,812 --> 01:29:44,932
Speaker 4: discussion about how important it is to sit down with

1734
01:29:45,013 --> 01:29:47,973
Speaker 4: your family or indeed partner at the dinner table just

1735
01:29:48,093 --> 01:29:51,812
Speaker 4: talk we're used to instead of watching TV shows on

1736
01:29:51,853 --> 01:29:52,772
Speaker 4: Netflix or whatever.

1737
01:29:52,933 --> 01:29:55,013
Speaker 2: I just realized you can go and go to my

1738
01:29:55,293 --> 01:29:57,892
Speaker 2: Instagram Matt Heath and z At Instagram you can watch

1739
01:29:57,933 --> 01:30:01,732
Speaker 2: me sitting around a table having dinner and talking with

1740
01:30:01,812 --> 01:30:02,572
Speaker 2: Boden Barrett.

1741
01:30:03,973 --> 01:30:05,452
Speaker 4: See turn up for tea quite a bit, does he.

1742
01:30:05,732 --> 01:30:07,732
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't, but it was as me and him

1743
01:30:08,333 --> 01:30:12,532
Speaker 2: and Tony Street we're talking about talking about eating around

1744
01:30:12,652 --> 01:30:16,492
Speaker 2: tables and families. They had seven kids and the Barrett family, right, Yeah,

1745
01:30:16,492 --> 01:30:18,812
Speaker 2: there's a big family. Oh eight hundred and eighty.

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01:30:18,893 --> 01:30:20,772
Speaker 4: Some great texts coming through on nine two ninety two

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01:30:20,893 --> 01:30:23,013
Speaker 4: as well, Michael, how are you.

1748
01:30:24,013 --> 01:30:27,293
Speaker 25: I'm doing great? Thanks. I agree with your sentiment lads,

1749
01:30:27,333 --> 01:30:30,572
Speaker 25: And just to build upon what your previous call it mentioned,

1750
01:30:30,812 --> 01:30:32,892
Speaker 25: I think it's actually up to us parents to ask

1751
01:30:32,933 --> 01:30:35,293
Speaker 25: our kids better questions if we get nothing out of them.

1752
01:30:35,772 --> 01:30:39,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, how do how do? What are the questions?

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01:30:39,492 --> 01:30:43,173
Speaker 2: Because I've struggled across my entire parenting, I've asked them

1754
01:30:43,253 --> 01:30:47,293
Speaker 2: and they've gone, I can't They just can't remember anything.

1755
01:30:47,612 --> 01:30:48,532
Speaker 2: So what's a bit of question.

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01:30:49,812 --> 01:30:53,572
Speaker 25: I mean, what's funny that funny that happened today? What's

1757
01:30:53,612 --> 01:30:58,133
Speaker 25: the silliest thing you saw today? To tell me, what's

1758
01:30:58,173 --> 01:30:59,692
Speaker 25: the worst mood a teacher was in?

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01:31:00,532 --> 01:31:01,453
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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01:31:02,013 --> 01:31:05,652
Speaker 25: Let's let's brainstorm an idea for a reboot of Back

1761
01:31:05,732 --> 01:31:08,492
Speaker 25: of the y as.

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01:31:08,532 --> 01:31:09,213
Speaker 12: You could ask my.

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01:31:09,253 --> 01:31:11,173
Speaker 2: Kids don't know about that show? Keep kiding the secret

1764
01:31:11,253 --> 01:31:15,852
Speaker 2: from him? Yeah, I mean, I mean a question a

1765
01:31:15,893 --> 01:31:19,093
Speaker 2: kid can always answer, especially a teenage boys, is you

1766
01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:21,253
Speaker 2: know a thirteen year old boys, what did you eat today?

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01:31:21,652 --> 01:31:23,852
Speaker 2: They can always remember that and it'd be like, oh,

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01:31:23,853 --> 01:31:25,612
Speaker 2: I stopped off and brought some lollies on the way home.

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01:31:27,492 --> 01:31:27,732
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: And I'm disappointed at mister Luxon, really, I mean he

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01:31:31,253 --> 01:31:33,253
Speaker 25: should be sitting the standard. I mean it's almost like

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01:31:33,293 --> 01:31:36,333
Speaker 25: he remember at the labor party with with his ultra

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01:31:36,412 --> 01:31:38,492
Speaker 25: left wing dinner habit.

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01:31:39,253 --> 01:31:41,172
Speaker 12: His wife chooses what they watch is probably.

1775
01:31:41,013 --> 01:31:42,652
Speaker 25: Up to date with the Kardashian.

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01:31:43,893 --> 01:31:46,093
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of pushback and apparently he's using

1777
01:31:46,093 --> 01:31:46,972
Speaker 2: a bean bag tray.

1778
01:31:47,093 --> 01:31:49,932
Speaker 4: Oh, you can't do that trade.

1779
01:31:50,853 --> 01:31:52,852
Speaker 16: That's probably a wiki bag bean bag trail.

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01:31:55,893 --> 01:31:57,692
Speaker 25: Yeah, the wet blanket warm somehow.

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01:31:59,093 --> 01:32:03,452
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fantastic, thank if you call Michael.

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01:32:04,213 --> 01:32:06,852
Speaker 2: Have a great day, Yeah, Tyler met. My daughter insists

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01:32:06,853 --> 01:32:09,133
Speaker 2: that they eat at the dinner table. The kids are

1784
01:32:09,253 --> 01:32:12,732
Speaker 2: encouraged to give their highs and lows for the day,

1785
01:32:12,812 --> 01:32:15,692
Speaker 2: an excellent way to keep the communication going and knowing

1786
01:32:15,692 --> 01:32:18,612
Speaker 2: how they feel. That's from erin your highs and lows

1787
01:32:18,652 --> 01:32:21,053
Speaker 2: for the day. But yeah, I mean, what about my

1788
01:32:21,093 --> 01:32:24,492
Speaker 2: wider point that there's something wrong with us, Like families

1789
01:32:24,492 --> 01:32:27,213
Speaker 2: obviously need to get together and talks here, you know,

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01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:29,892
Speaker 2: I mean, otherwise what are you doing If you're never

1791
01:32:29,933 --> 01:32:34,933
Speaker 2: talking or sitting around or experiencing each other every day,

1792
01:32:35,492 --> 01:32:40,052
Speaker 2: then what are you really doing? But also my question

1793
01:32:40,173 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 2: around is how entertained do we need to be? So

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01:32:44,412 --> 01:32:47,652
Speaker 2: can't we just take a moment to enjoy the food

1795
01:32:47,772 --> 01:32:52,492
Speaker 2: we have as opposed to having to be doubly entertained,

1796
01:32:52,572 --> 01:32:58,253
Speaker 2: overly stimulated by a TV series and the food that

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01:32:58,293 --> 01:32:58,692
Speaker 2: you're eating.

1798
01:33:00,333 --> 01:33:03,372
Speaker 4: But to a fourteen year old or a thirteen year

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01:33:03,372 --> 01:33:05,852
Speaker 4: old or a fifteen year old. That is a hard cell.

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01:33:06,333 --> 01:33:10,412
Speaker 4: They are super wide into their phones. So you're saying, kids,

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01:33:10,412 --> 01:33:12,093
Speaker 4: we're going to sit down and we're going to have

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01:33:12,133 --> 01:33:13,692
Speaker 4: a conversation. They're going to look at you to say

1803
01:33:13,772 --> 01:33:14,133
Speaker 4: you're mad.

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01:33:14,293 --> 01:33:16,732
Speaker 2: But that's the job of a parent. A job of

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01:33:16,853 --> 01:33:19,093
Speaker 2: parent is to find moments like that, and you'll look

1806
01:33:19,133 --> 01:33:21,692
Speaker 2: back and you'll have fantastic stories when you grow up

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01:33:21,692 --> 01:33:23,652
Speaker 2: about the things that happened at the dinner table, like

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01:33:23,973 --> 01:33:26,973
Speaker 2: peas you threw at your sister or I mean me

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01:33:26,973 --> 01:33:29,892
Speaker 2: and my little sister Imogen, we'd always have this thing.

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01:33:29,973 --> 01:33:31,532
Speaker 2: We would be forced to go and get each other

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01:33:31,532 --> 01:33:33,213
Speaker 2: a drink and if I had to get us some milk,

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01:33:33,253 --> 01:33:37,572
Speaker 2: I'd fill it up with salt and and she would

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01:33:37,572 --> 01:33:39,452
Speaker 2: do worse. How did the parents feel about that, Well,

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01:33:39,492 --> 01:33:41,572
Speaker 2: they wouldn't know about it. Is these little wars, these

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01:33:41,572 --> 01:33:44,652
Speaker 2: little memories that we look back fondly on. Definitely, get

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01:33:44,652 --> 01:33:46,732
Speaker 2: the family around the table, appreciate the food and the

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Speaker 2: cook debrief and teach the kids open communication. Love the

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01:33:50,812 --> 01:33:51,972
Speaker 2: show lads, cheers Mitch.

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Speaker 4: That's what I love to do when I was a kid,

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01:33:53,772 --> 01:33:56,173
Speaker 4: is help mum do the cooking. Honestly, I thought that

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01:33:56,452 --> 01:33:59,452
Speaker 4: was more important to me than actually sitting around at

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01:33:59,452 --> 01:34:02,012
Speaker 4: the dinner table eating. It was helping mum with with cooking.

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01:34:02,053 --> 01:34:05,572
Speaker 2: What kind of boy, what kind of little boy prefers

1824
01:34:05,612 --> 01:34:07,852
Speaker 2: the cooking than the eating me. That's why you didn't

1825
01:34:07,853 --> 01:34:10,572
Speaker 2: grow very Hey, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty I

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01:34:10,612 --> 01:34:11,492
Speaker 2: could chop a potato.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'll say to you right now, you are under Nurris.

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01:34:14,812 --> 01:34:16,173
Speaker 2: You're focused on the wrong part at dinner.

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01:34:16,732 --> 01:34:18,572
Speaker 4: Yeah, but look at me now, not under Norris. Now,

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01:34:18,652 --> 01:34:22,133
Speaker 4: am I N nine two is a text number. We'll

1832
01:34:22,133 --> 01:34:23,692
Speaker 4: get it to more of your phone calls very shortly.

1833
01:34:23,732 --> 01:34:25,052
Speaker 4: Headlines with Raylene coming.

1834
01:34:24,893 --> 01:34:31,133
Speaker 1: Up, youth talks, evy, headlines with Blue Bubble taxis.

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01:34:31,253 --> 01:34:34,372
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1836
01:34:34,412 --> 01:34:38,532
Speaker 15: Commissioner has found multiple public service failures in a review

1837
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Speaker 15: prompted by allegations of misuse of census and COVID vaccination data.

1838
01:34:43,933 --> 01:34:47,853
Speaker 15: It's found stats n Z lacked safeguards and health agencies

1839
01:34:47,893 --> 01:34:51,093
Speaker 15: weren't set up to manage possible conflicts of interest when

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01:34:51,133 --> 01:34:55,372
Speaker 15: sharing COVID data. Stats n z's acting chief executive will

1841
01:34:55,412 --> 01:34:59,652
Speaker 15: step down and the agencies will suspend future contracts with

1842
01:34:59,933 --> 01:35:04,092
Speaker 15: Way per Data Trust, pending more assurances on conflicts of interest.

1843
01:35:05,013 --> 01:35:07,893
Speaker 15: Police are appealing for witnesses to help confirm a potential

1844
01:35:07,973 --> 01:35:11,492
Speaker 15: sighting fugitive Tom Phillips and his children in a layby

1845
01:35:11,612 --> 01:35:15,973
Speaker 15: on State Highway for south of Tikuweiti on Sunday. The

1846
01:35:16,013 --> 01:35:19,933
Speaker 15: Police Minister says he's open to reviewing laws around protests

1847
01:35:20,013 --> 01:35:24,253
Speaker 15: outside homes after the Independent Police Conduct Authorities called for

1848
01:35:24,372 --> 01:35:29,852
Speaker 15: standalone laws to protect protesters' rights while ensuring public safety.

1849
01:35:30,893 --> 01:35:33,692
Speaker 15: Rupadua police are asking the public to help them find

1850
01:35:33,732 --> 01:35:37,173
Speaker 15: fifty one year old Mark Tote is also known as

1851
01:35:37,213 --> 01:35:41,693
Speaker 15: Mark Edwards and was last seen on February nine in Hamurana.

1852
01:35:42,612 --> 01:35:47,452
Speaker 15: American multimillionaire migrant buys to Auckland Villa's for twenty six

1853
01:35:47,532 --> 01:35:50,893
Speaker 15: million dollars. You can read more at enzid Herald Premium.

1854
01:35:50,973 --> 01:35:52,852
Speaker 15: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1855
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, ray Lean and we're asking the

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01:35:55,293 --> 01:35:57,253
Speaker 4: question do you still make an effort to sit down

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01:35:57,372 --> 01:36:00,612
Speaker 4: with your family or partner at the dinner table rather

1858
01:36:00,652 --> 01:36:02,692
Speaker 4: than sitting in front of the TV. Some great text

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01:36:02,692 --> 01:36:04,213
Speaker 4: coming through on nine two nine two.

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Speaker 2: I say it to some muston families. Yeah, no phones

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01:36:06,732 --> 01:36:08,812
Speaker 2: or TV at the table and at the table every night.

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01:36:08,893 --> 01:36:10,933
Speaker 2: You know what you're going on, what's going on with

1863
01:36:10,973 --> 01:36:14,172
Speaker 2: your family? Says this texture. Yeah, I mean you obviously

1864
01:36:14,173 --> 01:36:16,293
Speaker 2: didn't listen to exactly what Christal Luxe and said. He

1865
01:36:16,293 --> 01:36:18,412
Speaker 2: didn't say that they do it every night. He said

1866
01:36:18,452 --> 01:36:20,892
Speaker 2: that's what him and his wife did on Valentine's Day. Well,

1867
01:36:20,893 --> 01:36:22,652
Speaker 2: you obviously didn't listen to us talking about it because

1868
01:36:22,692 --> 01:36:24,053
Speaker 2: we never said that he did it every night. We

1869
01:36:24,173 --> 01:36:26,293
Speaker 2: just said that he said to Hosking that he did

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01:36:26,293 --> 01:36:28,732
Speaker 2: it on Valentine's Day, and we sprang it off into

1871
01:36:28,732 --> 01:36:30,612
Speaker 2: a wider chat and we did make a point that

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01:36:30,692 --> 01:36:33,253
Speaker 2: he's just with his partner out up with his wife now,

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01:36:33,652 --> 01:36:36,492
Speaker 2: not the kids, so you know, once the kids leave,

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01:36:36,532 --> 01:36:38,612
Speaker 2: you don't necessarily have to sit around the table. But

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01:36:38,732 --> 01:36:42,973
Speaker 2: I just believe that it's actually no. I think I

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01:36:43,053 --> 01:36:45,892
Speaker 2: do believe that you should be stimulated enough by food,

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01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:48,532
Speaker 2: and if you're just mindlessly shoving food into your face

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01:36:48,612 --> 01:36:52,372
Speaker 2: while you're watching TV and not appreciating the food that

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01:36:52,372 --> 01:36:54,372
Speaker 2: you've got, then I don't think that's I don't think

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01:36:54,412 --> 01:36:57,932
Speaker 2: that's a very as uplifting away. I feel like food

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01:36:57,973 --> 01:36:59,012
Speaker 2: should be entertaining enough.

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01:36:59,412 --> 01:37:02,412
Speaker 4: But what if, Because quite often me and maybe would

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01:37:02,412 --> 01:37:05,093
Speaker 4: just sit on the couch and watch different TV shows

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01:37:05,093 --> 01:37:07,333
Speaker 4: while we're eating dinner. And I know that would horrify you.

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01:37:08,013 --> 01:37:11,852
Speaker 4: But if that is not the way that we bond

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01:37:11,893 --> 01:37:15,173
Speaker 4: and have chats, that's kind of just nourishment for us.

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01:37:15,492 --> 01:37:17,452
Speaker 4: The way that we kind of bond as getting out

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01:37:17,452 --> 01:37:19,372
Speaker 4: and having a nice walk together. Would you look at

1889
01:37:19,412 --> 01:37:21,093
Speaker 4: us and say, how dare you?

1890
01:37:21,333 --> 01:37:23,932
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, this text to heresy is stop telling people

1891
01:37:23,933 --> 01:37:26,253
Speaker 2: how to live their lives. Met you're a fascist. That's

1892
01:37:26,253 --> 01:37:27,093
Speaker 2: from Mary. Thanks for that.

1893
01:37:27,372 --> 01:37:31,213
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's extreme. Oh e one hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:37:31,652 --> 01:37:34,173
Speaker 4: Is it still important for you and your family and

1895
01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:36,973
Speaker 4: partner to sit around at dinner table to eat and

1896
01:37:37,013 --> 01:37:40,333
Speaker 4: have a conversation rather that than in front of the TV?

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Speaker 2: James, Hi, how do you feel about this?

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Speaker 22: Well, I'd be one of these days. But back when

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01:37:49,372 --> 01:37:52,133
Speaker 22: I was my mother's caregiver and living with her, you know,

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01:37:53,532 --> 01:37:56,972
Speaker 22: way about twenty or thirty years ago, it wasn't uncommon

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01:37:56,973 --> 01:37:59,933
Speaker 22: for us to actually believe it or not, is to

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01:38:00,013 --> 01:38:02,612
Speaker 22: sit down together in the lounge and watch TV together

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01:38:02,652 --> 01:38:07,452
Speaker 22: and have dinner or lunch and we catch up.

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Speaker 2: So you've still having the conversation whilst they.

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Speaker 22: You know, have it down on the background, either either

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01:38:16,412 --> 01:38:19,852
Speaker 22: the news or something like that flunny in the background. Yeah,

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01:38:20,213 --> 01:38:23,812
Speaker 22: but you know we'd talk, but you know, you don't

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01:38:23,853 --> 01:38:26,612
Speaker 22: have to sit around, you don't. It was only the

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Speaker 22: two of us, so we basically just sat in the

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Speaker 22: lounge and you know, had our dinner or our lunch

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Speaker 22: one and basically caught up with the day. Then you

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Speaker 22: know if even especially what I've been.

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Speaker 4: Out for or over to tell you is what you're saying, James, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure there are some some families that would

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01:38:47,532 --> 01:38:49,093
Speaker 4: would claim to do that as well, that they are

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Speaker 4: bonding over a particular TV show. I remember my old

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01:38:53,572 --> 01:38:55,812
Speaker 4: man Actually is we were all forced to sit at

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01:38:55,853 --> 01:38:57,852
Speaker 4: the dinner table and Dad would sometimes just go and

1919
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Speaker 4: watch the news, but he was the only one allowed

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Speaker 4: to go and sit down on the couch and watch that.

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Speaker 4: And if we did complain, you'd say, you do what

1922
01:39:04,812 --> 01:39:06,692
Speaker 4: you're told, you sit down on the dinner table. I

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01:39:06,732 --> 01:39:09,213
Speaker 4: am the father here, I'll go the news, but you're

1924
01:39:09,213 --> 01:39:09,732
Speaker 4: going to sit there.

1925
01:39:10,412 --> 01:39:12,972
Speaker 2: So your dad would be over on the arm chair

1926
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Speaker 2: watching the news while you guys were on the table.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we didn't want to watch the news. The

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01:39:16,293 --> 01:39:18,692
Speaker 4: news was boring when we were a kid. We're just dad,

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Speaker 4: come on, but hey, he was, he was the dad

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Speaker 4: in that situation.

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Speaker 2: You did your dad have a special cheer that you

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Speaker 2: were his cheer? Yep, yeah, so did my dad. My

1933
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Speaker 2: dad had his cheer. We weren't allowed to sit in.

1934
01:39:31,213 --> 01:39:33,333
Speaker 2: Is that sort of thing that dads have their dad year?

1935
01:39:33,372 --> 01:39:35,732
Speaker 2: Because I hope so it's not for me. Yeah, oh,

1936
01:39:35,772 --> 01:39:37,013
Speaker 2: you don't have a dad yet. I don't have a

1937
01:39:37,093 --> 01:39:37,452
Speaker 2: dad year.

1938
01:39:37,692 --> 01:39:39,532
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the day dad yet.

1939
01:39:39,532 --> 01:39:42,572
Speaker 2: I bought a dad cheer And then the dog Colin

1940
01:39:43,013 --> 01:39:46,692
Speaker 2: has taking it as his cheer and he gets annoyed.

1941
01:39:46,732 --> 01:39:49,892
Speaker 4: If it was always a lazy boy, Dad had a

1942
01:39:49,933 --> 01:39:52,612
Speaker 4: lazy boy and granddad had a lazy boy. If you've

1943
01:39:52,652 --> 01:39:53,932
Speaker 4: got a lazy boy, that's a dad cheer.

1944
01:39:54,013 --> 01:39:56,812
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, Marlene. Are you were you

1945
01:39:56,893 --> 01:40:00,652
Speaker 2: sitting around the TV? Watching sitting around watching eating dinner

1946
01:40:00,652 --> 01:40:02,412
Speaker 2: watching the TV. I can't get my words out.

1947
01:40:03,692 --> 01:40:08,852
Speaker 8: Hello, guys, I love listening to your show. You yeah,

1948
01:40:08,893 --> 01:40:13,093
Speaker 8: and so ours are slightly different. And so when the

1949
01:40:13,213 --> 01:40:15,293
Speaker 8: kids were in the house, we used to sit in

1950
01:40:15,333 --> 01:40:17,812
Speaker 8: front of the tally and I don't know if we

1951
01:40:17,812 --> 01:40:20,972
Speaker 8: were just too busy with all the activities after school.

1952
01:40:21,013 --> 01:40:24,412
Speaker 8: But now that they've moved out, we are actually, after

1953
01:40:24,572 --> 01:40:27,933
Speaker 8: thirty two years of marriage, we've moved back to the

1954
01:40:28,013 --> 01:40:29,012
Speaker 8: dining room table.

1955
01:40:29,372 --> 01:40:33,772
Speaker 2: Ah. Yes, and how are you enjoying that well?

1956
01:40:33,933 --> 01:40:36,772
Speaker 8: And we've replaced the cell phones with wine.

1957
01:40:38,492 --> 01:40:42,532
Speaker 2: Choice are you are you checking the wine as often

1958
01:40:42,572 --> 01:40:43,973
Speaker 2: as I'm checking my cellphone?

1959
01:40:45,333 --> 01:40:50,492
Speaker 8: No? No, But actually we've realized after being with the

1960
01:40:50,572 --> 01:40:53,892
Speaker 8: kids all the time, we actually had a couple of

1961
01:40:53,973 --> 01:41:00,492
Speaker 8: unfinished conversations. And we hardly watch any usual television. Lightly

1962
01:41:00,572 --> 01:41:03,932
Speaker 8: we sort of watched the odd YouTube show or things

1963
01:41:04,013 --> 01:41:07,452
Speaker 8: like that, but we've moved away from the television and

1964
01:41:08,853 --> 01:41:11,652
Speaker 8: just on that I when our kids were in the house,

1965
01:41:12,253 --> 01:41:15,692
Speaker 8: we offered them one night per week where they could

1966
01:41:15,692 --> 01:41:21,133
Speaker 8: cook dinner for us. And do they They do, and

1967
01:41:21,173 --> 01:41:24,293
Speaker 8: they both now cook. And we used to say it

1968
01:41:24,333 --> 01:41:27,293
Speaker 8: could be a sandwich, a boiled egg, It didn't matter

1969
01:41:27,652 --> 01:41:31,013
Speaker 8: as long as they cooked the dinner. So that and

1970
01:41:31,053 --> 01:41:34,333
Speaker 8: we would sort of talk about it while wasn't dally

1971
01:41:34,412 --> 01:41:35,452
Speaker 8: about the taste.

1972
01:41:35,532 --> 01:41:38,372
Speaker 2: Hang on a minute, they served up a boiled egg,

1973
01:41:38,652 --> 01:41:40,333
Speaker 2: that would be okay, Just a boiled egg.

1974
01:41:41,213 --> 01:41:44,972
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was our agreement with the kids. If they

1975
01:41:45,133 --> 01:41:48,333
Speaker 8: even and we had to eat it and we weren't

1976
01:41:48,412 --> 01:41:53,532
Speaker 8: allowed to complain about it. Yeah, I know, but it actually,

1977
01:41:53,652 --> 01:41:57,253
Speaker 8: hey guys, it did work. My kids. We've got a

1978
01:41:57,293 --> 01:42:00,692
Speaker 8: son and daughter and they can both cook really well

1979
01:42:00,732 --> 01:42:04,532
Speaker 8: now and our daughter is relocated to Australia and they

1980
01:42:04,572 --> 01:42:05,732
Speaker 8: are really good cooks.

1981
01:42:05,772 --> 01:42:05,972
Speaker 3: Now.

1982
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:08,972
Speaker 2: Oh well, good on you, Maline. Sounds like it's quality

1983
01:42:08,973 --> 01:42:09,412
Speaker 2: of parenting.

1984
01:42:10,732 --> 01:42:14,293
Speaker 4: And you go thirty two years of marriage and what

1985
01:42:14,372 --> 01:42:16,532
Speaker 4: was their go to when they started to up their

1986
01:42:16,572 --> 01:42:18,293
Speaker 4: cooking skills a little bit? What was the best thing

1987
01:42:18,333 --> 01:42:19,253
Speaker 4: they started?

1988
01:42:19,452 --> 01:42:21,333
Speaker 8: Oh you know how many toasted sand?

1989
01:42:21,333 --> 01:42:22,132
Speaker 12: We just rehead?

1990
01:42:22,772 --> 01:42:23,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, good choice.

1991
01:42:24,253 --> 01:42:28,293
Speaker 8: It's the only thing they could cook that bloody George Foreman.

1992
01:42:28,612 --> 01:42:32,692
Speaker 8: Girl was like I wanted to burn the thing, but

1993
01:42:33,772 --> 01:42:36,372
Speaker 8: they ended up. Now they can literally cook that. I

1994
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:39,612
Speaker 8: go to the supermarket and I go, I'm going to

1995
01:42:39,973 --> 01:42:42,213
Speaker 8: do pressers and this is what I'm going to serve

1996
01:42:42,293 --> 01:42:44,412
Speaker 8: with that. So they really good cooks now.

1997
01:42:44,572 --> 01:42:46,692
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, hey, thank you so much for call Marlene.

1998
01:42:46,772 --> 01:42:49,572
Speaker 2: Sounds like sounds like you've got it right. I agree

1999
01:42:49,612 --> 01:42:52,173
Speaker 2: with that text of what business did of yours or

2000
01:42:52,213 --> 01:42:54,892
Speaker 2: your station to tell us how we eat our meals

2001
01:42:55,572 --> 01:42:59,772
Speaker 2: or anything else for that matter, classiest nonsense nonsense. Okay

2002
01:42:59,812 --> 01:43:02,293
Speaker 2: to that texture, I say, you will eat your meal

2003
01:43:02,412 --> 01:43:06,012
Speaker 2: as I tell you to me. Mad Heath is telling

2004
01:43:06,053 --> 01:43:09,732
Speaker 2: you right now to stop watching TV eat your meals. Okay,

2005
01:43:10,013 --> 01:43:11,973
Speaker 2: you just eat around the table. Okay, that's that's what

2006
01:43:11,973 --> 01:43:14,412
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. All right, you've been told your number

2007
01:43:14,452 --> 01:43:15,973
Speaker 2: in is in two to eight. You better do it

2008
01:43:15,973 --> 01:43:18,412
Speaker 2: a towel or I'll come around and I'll pull your

2009
01:43:18,412 --> 01:43:19,692
Speaker 2: pants down and smack your bottom.

2010
01:43:21,372 --> 01:43:24,173
Speaker 4: That is a fair warning. I like this one yiday. Guys,

2011
01:43:24,213 --> 01:43:27,492
Speaker 4: we sit around and listen to the wireless while we

2012
01:43:27,572 --> 01:43:30,852
Speaker 4: eat listening to z B. Great way to have some

2013
01:43:30,893 --> 01:43:31,452
Speaker 4: family time.

2014
01:43:31,692 --> 01:43:35,572
Speaker 2: Oh it's a genuine text listen to the wireless. Yeah, Oh,

2015
01:43:35,612 --> 01:43:37,812
Speaker 2: good on them. I mean that's what all families used

2016
01:43:37,812 --> 01:43:40,372
Speaker 2: to do. Least have the wireless on, didn't they? And backpack.

2017
01:43:40,412 --> 01:43:43,213
Speaker 2: Then people would say you need to be concentrating listened,

2018
01:43:43,372 --> 01:43:45,772
Speaker 2: you know, talking to your family, not with this new

2019
01:43:45,812 --> 01:43:50,053
Speaker 2: fangled wireless interrupting your thoughts. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

2020
01:43:50,133 --> 01:43:51,572
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call?

2021
01:43:51,692 --> 01:43:53,372
Speaker 4: Is it important for you to sit down with your

2022
01:43:53,412 --> 01:43:57,452
Speaker 4: family and eat dinner without any distractions like dirty old TV.

2023
01:43:57,612 --> 01:43:59,093
Speaker 4: Love to hear from you. Nine two nine too is

2024
01:43:59,133 --> 01:44:01,692
Speaker 4: the text number. It is twenty wonderful.

2025
01:44:02,213 --> 01:44:05,933
Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talkback Matt and Taylor Afternoon

2026
01:44:06,093 --> 01:44:10,052
Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety two rejourney into something special.

2027
01:44:10,213 --> 01:44:13,372
Speaker 9: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Youth.

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01:44:13,253 --> 01:44:16,732
Speaker 4: Talks' good Afternoon, eighteen to four. Now coming up, I've

2029
01:44:16,732 --> 01:44:18,572
Speaker 4: got a bit of a I've got a bit of

2030
01:44:18,572 --> 01:44:19,452
Speaker 4: a survey.

2031
01:44:19,213 --> 01:44:21,133
Speaker 2: Question for you, Matt, yep.

2032
01:44:22,013 --> 01:44:25,492
Speaker 4: What percentage of Kiwi's do you think actually make a

2033
01:44:25,492 --> 01:44:28,492
Speaker 4: concided effort to sit down at the dinner table each

2034
01:44:28,612 --> 01:44:29,972
Speaker 4: night with their family?

2035
01:44:30,253 --> 01:44:33,692
Speaker 2: Wow? What percentage is the percentage of households or what

2036
01:44:33,692 --> 01:44:35,173
Speaker 2: percentage of people in.

2037
01:44:35,133 --> 01:44:37,293
Speaker 4: Total percentage of households.

2038
01:44:38,013 --> 01:44:40,052
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say thirty percent.

2039
01:44:40,973 --> 01:44:43,532
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I'll tell you. Coming up very shortly.

2040
01:44:43,772 --> 01:44:45,812
Speaker 2: This text a on nineteen ninet two says teenagers who

2041
01:44:45,853 --> 01:44:47,972
Speaker 2: work and play sport, as well as parents who work

2042
01:44:48,053 --> 01:44:50,333
Speaker 2: gym and have a life hard to sit as a

2043
01:44:50,333 --> 01:44:52,972
Speaker 2: family during the week or weekend. But we get Granny

2044
01:44:53,013 --> 01:44:56,213
Speaker 2: around for dinner every Sunday, and it's not negotiable unless

2045
01:44:56,253 --> 01:44:58,572
Speaker 2: you have to work and then a movie, who chooses

2046
01:44:58,572 --> 01:45:01,812
Speaker 2: the movie rotates? Husband's choices are always the worst, says

2047
01:45:01,853 --> 01:45:05,732
Speaker 2: this text. Yeah, I mean that is it is hard.

2048
01:45:05,772 --> 01:45:08,012
Speaker 2: I mean it is when I say that it's better

2049
01:45:08,053 --> 01:45:10,732
Speaker 2: to do that, I understand that it's not always possible,

2050
01:45:11,333 --> 01:45:16,772
Speaker 2: especially with sports and work and such. Peter, welcome to

2051
01:45:16,812 --> 01:45:17,772
Speaker 2: the show. Your thoughts on this.

2052
01:45:19,893 --> 01:45:24,092
Speaker 19: I grew up with dinner table most of my younger

2053
01:45:24,173 --> 01:45:27,092
Speaker 19: life and has grown up and had their own kents.

2054
01:45:27,213 --> 01:45:29,973
Speaker 19: Like a lot of the recallers of echos, you just

2055
01:45:30,133 --> 01:45:34,452
Speaker 19: don't have real time with all the activities on. But

2056
01:45:34,532 --> 01:45:37,812
Speaker 19: when we do betray myself and my daughter, we ever

2057
01:45:38,853 --> 01:45:42,972
Speaker 19: stupid little saying as in TV and chair and they

2058
01:45:43,053 --> 01:45:46,133
Speaker 19: get to choose the best part of the allowance to

2059
01:45:46,173 --> 01:45:50,492
Speaker 19: sit on with the chair and what program they want

2060
01:45:50,492 --> 01:45:54,253
Speaker 19: to watch. And it's my chance at that time to

2061
01:45:54,812 --> 01:45:57,652
Speaker 19: put on an old eighties movie like Back to the

2062
01:45:57,692 --> 01:46:01,372
Speaker 19: Future or the Original Term and all that. So she

2063
01:46:01,492 --> 01:46:04,612
Speaker 19: can kind of understand. But the other thing I hate

2064
01:46:04,692 --> 01:46:07,732
Speaker 19: is I hate when I crook a dinner is talking

2065
01:46:07,772 --> 01:46:10,572
Speaker 19: to someone. I just want to enjoy my dinner and

2066
01:46:10,612 --> 01:46:12,052
Speaker 19: then talk after the dinner.

2067
01:46:12,173 --> 01:46:15,053
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well I guess I guess the thing is.

2068
01:46:15,133 --> 01:46:17,973
Speaker 2: I guess the thing is the the point is the

2069
01:46:18,013 --> 01:46:20,892
Speaker 2: talking when you do it that, you know, I guess

2070
01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:22,732
Speaker 2: it's a handy thing when it's around dinner table. But

2071
01:46:22,933 --> 01:46:25,293
Speaker 2: if you're finding other ways to talk to the family,

2072
01:46:25,372 --> 01:46:26,172
Speaker 2: then that's fantastic.

2073
01:46:26,213 --> 01:46:26,412
Speaker 8: Peter.

2074
01:46:27,772 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 20: Yeah, well we do that.

2075
01:46:28,692 --> 01:46:29,732
Speaker 21: We will do the dishes.

2076
01:46:29,772 --> 01:46:33,652
Speaker 19: That's really the talk time. You know, we think we're

2077
01:46:34,293 --> 01:46:37,412
Speaker 19: washing up and that's when the school comes stuff comes

2078
01:46:37,412 --> 01:46:41,012
Speaker 19: down then. But yeah, well I don't see an issue.

2079
01:46:41,053 --> 01:46:44,333
Speaker 19: You know, it's probably three times a week will TV

2080
01:46:44,452 --> 01:46:48,612
Speaker 19: and chair caught and have to suffer through some stupid

2081
01:46:48,652 --> 01:46:50,293
Speaker 19: women YouTube crack.

2082
01:46:52,652 --> 01:46:54,372
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, Peter.

2083
01:46:55,013 --> 01:46:57,092
Speaker 2: A movie that I just watched again recently, The Blues

2084
01:46:57,133 --> 01:47:00,253
Speaker 2: Brothers from that's from nineteen eighty you're talking about making

2085
01:47:00,572 --> 01:47:02,932
Speaker 2: watch ninety days movie? How good is the Blues Brothers?

2086
01:47:02,973 --> 01:47:04,852
Speaker 2: I just listened to podcasts on One of my favorite

2087
01:47:04,853 --> 01:47:07,333
Speaker 2: podcast is The Rewatchables, where they go and look at

2088
01:47:07,333 --> 01:47:10,012
Speaker 2: old films and talk about them. I'd forgotten how great

2089
01:47:10,053 --> 01:47:11,732
Speaker 2: The Blues Brothers is until I watch it again. I

2090
01:47:11,732 --> 01:47:13,092
Speaker 2: know everyone knows it's a great movie.

2091
01:47:12,893 --> 01:47:14,972
Speaker 4: But you know, great soundtrack as well.

2092
01:47:15,333 --> 01:47:19,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, timeless saying very funny. Hey, thanks so much for

2093
01:47:19,053 --> 01:47:25,813
Speaker 2: your call, Peter McKenzie. How are you.

2094
01:47:25,812 --> 01:47:28,772
Speaker 4: You're very good? So eating around the table important in

2095
01:47:28,812 --> 01:47:29,452
Speaker 4: your household?

2096
01:47:30,853 --> 01:47:32,613
Speaker 26: Yes, it is very important.

2097
01:47:33,412 --> 01:47:38,692
Speaker 2: And how old are you McKenzie thirteen thirteen? So you

2098
01:47:38,812 --> 01:47:42,492
Speaker 2: do your parents ask you for, you know, details of

2099
01:47:42,532 --> 01:47:45,612
Speaker 2: what happened during your day.

2100
01:47:46,213 --> 01:47:46,852
Speaker 8: Yeah, they do.

2101
01:47:46,973 --> 01:47:51,333
Speaker 26: But we also have this tack of cards called talking

2102
01:47:51,372 --> 01:47:55,732
Speaker 26: point cards, and it's got lots of random questions that

2103
01:47:56,572 --> 01:47:57,012
Speaker 26: you have.

2104
01:47:57,013 --> 01:47:59,972
Speaker 2: To answer, and so this happens around the dinner table.

2105
01:48:00,013 --> 01:48:04,253
Speaker 2: These talking point cards come out. Yeah, what kind of

2106
01:48:04,333 --> 01:48:05,452
Speaker 2: questions are they? McKenzie?

2107
01:48:07,452 --> 01:48:09,612
Speaker 26: Like, if you could have any pit, what would you

2108
01:48:09,732 --> 01:48:10,173
Speaker 26: choose them?

2109
01:48:10,213 --> 01:48:10,452
Speaker 7: Why?

2110
01:48:10,973 --> 01:48:11,932
Speaker 4: That's a great one.

2111
01:48:12,253 --> 01:48:13,612
Speaker 2: What's the answer to that one?

2112
01:48:16,253 --> 01:48:18,372
Speaker 12: Probably a sloth?

2113
01:48:18,692 --> 01:48:20,732
Speaker 2: Can you have choice? Can you have a sloth as

2114
01:48:20,732 --> 01:48:23,333
Speaker 2: a pet? Yeah, of course you can.

2115
01:48:24,853 --> 01:48:25,372
Speaker 4: I'm sure.

2116
01:48:25,612 --> 01:48:27,093
Speaker 2: Well, the question is if you could have any pet

2117
01:48:27,133 --> 01:48:28,492
Speaker 2: in the world as a sloth. It doesn't have to

2118
01:48:28,532 --> 01:48:29,412
Speaker 2: be a practical answer.

2119
01:48:29,412 --> 01:48:30,293
Speaker 4: And what would you choose?

2120
01:48:30,293 --> 01:48:32,333
Speaker 2: Man, I choose my dog, Colin. I've already got the

2121
01:48:32,412 --> 01:48:36,532
Speaker 2: ultimate pet. Okay, And McKenzie, do you enjoy these these

2122
01:48:36,532 --> 01:48:40,452
Speaker 2: around the table dinners and the questions and stuff or

2123
01:48:40,452 --> 01:48:41,933
Speaker 2: do you just wish you could run off to your

2124
01:48:41,973 --> 01:48:43,732
Speaker 2: room or watch TV or whatever.

2125
01:48:44,853 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 26: I do quite enjoy it. Is it every night McKenzie,

2126
01:48:51,452 --> 01:48:54,293
Speaker 26: like three or four nights a week because we're quite busy.

2127
01:48:54,532 --> 01:48:56,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty good. And have you got brothers and sisters?

2128
01:48:58,053 --> 01:48:58,293
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2129
01:48:58,372 --> 01:49:02,572
Speaker 26: I've got two younger brother Ancestor do they behave or

2130
01:49:02,572 --> 01:49:04,932
Speaker 26: are they through food throwers like.

2131
01:49:04,893 --> 01:49:05,652
Speaker 2: My sisters were?

2132
01:49:06,093 --> 01:49:08,253
Speaker 26: Its real?

2133
01:49:08,853 --> 01:49:12,133
Speaker 2: So who's who's so? But you're pretty well behaved around

2134
01:49:12,213 --> 01:49:12,852
Speaker 2: around the table?

2135
01:49:14,452 --> 01:49:17,612
Speaker 4: I guess who sets the table McKenzie, Is at you?

2136
01:49:17,732 --> 01:49:20,173
Speaker 4: Or do you make your younger siblings do that?

2137
01:49:20,732 --> 01:49:21,772
Speaker 26: It's on rotation?

2138
01:49:22,293 --> 01:49:22,532
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2139
01:49:22,692 --> 01:49:25,853
Speaker 2: Hey, how strict are your parents with table manners? Are they?

2140
01:49:26,093 --> 01:49:28,652
Speaker 2: Do they crack down on talking with your mouth full

2141
01:49:29,333 --> 01:49:31,972
Speaker 2: or eating with your mouth open those kind of things.

2142
01:49:33,133 --> 01:49:35,612
Speaker 26: Well, we're not too shit because my other siblings have

2143
01:49:35,692 --> 01:49:36,572
Speaker 26: special needs.

2144
01:49:36,812 --> 01:49:40,293
Speaker 2: Okay, right, so it's it's a bit it's a bit

2145
01:49:40,333 --> 01:49:41,293
Speaker 2: free and easy around that.

2146
01:49:42,532 --> 01:49:43,093
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2147
01:49:43,173 --> 01:49:43,452
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2148
01:49:43,492 --> 01:49:50,333
Speaker 4: And what's your favorite dinner McKenzie? Or there's some thought

2149
01:49:50,372 --> 01:49:51,293
Speaker 4: going into this one.

2150
01:49:51,973 --> 01:49:53,452
Speaker 2: You can favorite dinner.

2151
01:49:53,853 --> 01:49:55,812
Speaker 4: You can say takeaways if you want, but you've got

2152
01:49:55,853 --> 01:49:57,412
Speaker 4: to give us the specific takeaway.

2153
01:49:58,053 --> 01:49:59,813
Speaker 2: This is one of those difficult questions.

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Speaker 26: My favorite dinner is homemade butter chicken curry and none.

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Speaker 4: Oh that sounds really nice.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much to be called McKenzie. It's

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Speaker 2: if you can pull off a butter check and a

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Speaker 2: homemade butter check. And I've tried on a number of

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Speaker 2: occasions too, and it's nowhere near.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty proud if I go checking tonight, just in

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Speaker 4: the jar, I'm happy with that. I went one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty. Ten eighty is the number of cool we

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Speaker 4: go to.

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Speaker 10: Nathan cant Nathan, Hey, guys, you're looking well?

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Speaker 4: H you too?

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Speaker 2: Feeling well?

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Speaker 17: Down here in Dunedin. I was fixing a woman's oven

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Speaker 17: a while ago and got chatting and she was a

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Speaker 17: vice principal here at one of the schools, and I

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Speaker 17: asked her what can I do as a parent to

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Speaker 17: make your job easier? And she said, sit around the

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Speaker 17: dinner table and talk at night, debrief with your teenagers.

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Speaker 17: And we've made a considered effort to do that, and

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Speaker 17: over the years, if you go out to a restaurant,

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Speaker 17: you look at young early twenties somethings and they're out

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Speaker 17: on a date or something and they're just sitting there

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Speaker 17: looking at their phones.

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Speaker 2: It's depressing.

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Speaker 17: They had to have a conversation either eye, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. What about when you see families that are

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Speaker 2: out to dinner and look, I'm not a judgmental character,

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Speaker 2: but when you see, like there's a family out and

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Speaker 2: there's the two kids on their iPads and the parents

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Speaker 2: having a drink talking to each other, you know, is

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Speaker 2: that the kind of quality time? Does that? Does that

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Speaker 2: pass his quality time with the family?

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Speaker 3: Can't do?

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Speaker 17: I mean, I've even spoken to a couple of kindy

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Speaker 17: teachers who have preschoolers who speak in American accents because

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Speaker 17: it's just getting on YouTube so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true story. You don't know, that's the thing, that's

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Speaker 2: that's the thing that's happening. Yeah, the kids are coming

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01:51:39,692 --> 01:51:42,812
Speaker 2: up with American accents fart because they spent they spending

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Speaker 2: their time with their YouTube. Now with their parents. Yeah, unreal,

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01:51:46,692 --> 01:51:49,932
Speaker 2: And but it's hard now, I mean, parents work long hours, though.

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Speaker 2: Do you manage to get home in time for dinner time?

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Speaker 2: What time is your family dinner and do you manage

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Speaker 2: to get home for it?

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Speaker 17: Five thirty six Typically we eat most nights, and Monday

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Speaker 17: through Thursday is definitely got three boys around the table

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Speaker 17: and even if it's occasional grunt, you know, at least

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Speaker 17: you kind of something.

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Speaker 27: Out of them. Sorry, you go there after dinner, they're gone.

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Speaker 27: You know that they're out. Like I've got one that's

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Speaker 27: doing night shift at macas at the moment, and I've

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Speaker 27: got others that you know, sports and others, bits and

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01:52:23,772 --> 01:52:26,173
Speaker 27: pieces that are out here, there and everywhere. So you

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01:52:26,452 --> 01:52:28,532
Speaker 27: kind of try to make that effort and the hardest

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Speaker 27: partner here. There'll be parents out there at the moment

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Speaker 27: going well, I know what I've got to do, but

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Speaker 27: I don't know how to do it. And even if

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Speaker 27: it's just one night, just put the foot down and say, right,

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Speaker 27: you lot, we're having dinner at the table and it's

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Speaker 27: got to be led by by mum and dad and

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Speaker 27: make it happen one night and then come out with

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01:52:46,452 --> 01:52:49,892
Speaker 27: those those cool questions if you're a superhero, what what

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01:52:49,893 --> 01:52:50,932
Speaker 27: what power would you want?

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Speaker 3: And why.

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01:52:53,253 --> 01:52:55,293
Speaker 17: Because of it's invisibility, you're a pervert.

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01:52:55,333 --> 01:53:01,772
Speaker 27: But anyway, yeah, in visibility for me.

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01:53:03,013 --> 01:53:05,972
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they get fun.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I've still got Simon's old plate.

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01:53:12,333 --> 01:53:14,293
Speaker 2: The Simon red played. I remember those you're about to

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01:53:14,293 --> 01:53:18,173
Speaker 2: get them at the warehouse and is that still working,

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01:53:18,173 --> 01:53:20,573
Speaker 2: your handing out the red pat to the best behaved.

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Speaker 14: Kids as a as a as a joke.

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Speaker 17: You know, yes, it might be hoorayh you picked your

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Speaker 17: towel up today, well done.

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Speaker 2: My parents, my parents used to run these scams on

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Speaker 2: me and my kids. They'd be like this, get the

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01:53:32,333 --> 01:53:35,213
Speaker 2: skin of the gravy or the skin of the custard. Yeah,

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01:53:35,253 --> 01:53:37,013
Speaker 2: and they'd say that is for the the you know,

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01:53:37,053 --> 01:53:38,732
Speaker 2: like just a scam, like that was a good thing.

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01:53:38,772 --> 01:53:40,973
Speaker 2: But because they told you that getting the skin of

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Speaker 2: the custard was a treat, you'd be like, we'd fight

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01:53:43,612 --> 01:53:45,293
Speaker 2: over it. We'd like I did this, I did this,

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01:53:45,372 --> 01:53:45,772
Speaker 2: I did this.

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01:53:45,893 --> 01:53:47,572
Speaker 4: But there was a good part. I love the skin

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Speaker 4: of the custard. It was part of putting.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much for call Nathan, and congratulations

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Speaker 2: for those those dew neat and commute times where you

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01:53:55,053 --> 01:53:56,213
Speaker 2: can be home by five thirty.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Mate. Now, before I asked a

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01:53:58,732 --> 01:54:01,892
Speaker 4: what percentage of us sit down to dinner together on

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Speaker 4: weeknight weeknights here in New Zealand, and you.

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Speaker 2: Said thirty percent.

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Speaker 4: All right, if you think you know, nine to nine

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Speaker 4: two and we'll take a few more calls to wrap

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Speaker 4: Good Afternoon five to four, Just super quick ass before

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Speaker 4: what percentage of us sit down for dinner together on weeknights?

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Speaker 4: It was a survey done by my food bag last

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Speaker 4: year and they found forty percent of us sit down

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Speaker 4: for dinner together on weeknights.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess thirty percent and you laughed at me, Yes,

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01:54:44,613 --> 01:54:46,972
Speaker 2: you and because you're ten percent off. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 2: pretty close, man Like, look at this text. Twenty five

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Speaker 2: to thirty percent fifteen percent, that's.

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Speaker 4: Forty percent is pretty good on Wednight good with fifty

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Speaker 4: five percent of us doing it two or three nights

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Speaker 4: a week. So that's not too bad. Fifty five percent

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01:54:59,133 --> 01:55:00,892
Speaker 4: of us doing it at least a couple of nights

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Speaker 4: a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And was it Peter that said that The school

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Speaker 2: principal vice principal said that that's the best thing you

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Speaker 2: can do for your kids. You know, how can you

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01:55:07,893 --> 01:55:10,772
Speaker 2: bring up good kids, and that they do well at school.

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Speaker 2: Is that you ask them about their day around the table,

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Speaker 2: even though they generally don't have anything to tell you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Kaiser, Is that Kaiser?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, how are you going? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good? Thanks?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, forty percent of too bad?

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01:55:26,693 --> 01:55:28,053
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it sounds pretty good.

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01:55:28,053 --> 01:55:29,932
Speaker 2: It's more than I thought. Well obviously good.

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01:55:30,253 --> 01:55:32,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for you, it's quite important.

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01:55:32,093 --> 01:55:35,533
Speaker 17: Being around thirty yeah, oh yeah, tell them yeah soon

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01:55:35,573 --> 01:55:36,613
Speaker 17: around the people's.

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Speaker 16: Most definitely important. I mean, I got I've got teenagers

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01:55:39,573 --> 01:55:42,733
Speaker 16: that are in college, active with sports and that, and

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01:55:43,093 --> 01:55:44,133
Speaker 16: of course trying to.

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Speaker 8: Keep up their greeds.

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Speaker 16: But I find out after busy weeks week's work or

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01:55:49,013 --> 01:55:52,013
Speaker 16: busy day's work, I'll come home and then, yeah, my

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01:55:52,093 --> 01:55:54,613
Speaker 16: kids are all look away in their room on their gadgets,

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Speaker 16: which is pretty sad.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 16: That's the world that we're living today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for your call. Guys,

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01:56:00,173 --> 01:56:02,293
Speaker 2: we've just got we're running out of time here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that is a nice place to leave that.

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01:56:03,893 --> 01:56:06,493
Speaker 4: As Kaisers said, it is very important if you can.

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01:56:07,333 --> 01:56:09,413
Speaker 4: I don't at the moment, and I might make a

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Speaker 4: bit of an effort, particularly because you've told everybody meant

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01:56:12,453 --> 01:56:14,253
Speaker 4: just sit down at the dinner table.

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Speaker 2: Well, from the Ukraine War to eating dinner with your family.

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Speaker 2: It's been a great show and we'll see you again tomorrow.

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