1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Well, I think we can all see how this is 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: going to end for Andrew Costa, and we could see 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: that last night. He's going to lose his job running 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: a government agency. No one in charge can say that 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: yet because of employment law, but it is absolutely going 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: to happen, because there is no way that a man 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: can do what he has done at the highest levels 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: of police and then possibly continue to earn an income 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: from the taxpayer. Him losing his job is the right 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: outcome here. But here's the question that I think is 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: up for debate. Is Andrew Costa a bad man or 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: was he just bad at his job, showing poor judgment 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: and competence, naivety, whatever. And I'm going to suggest that 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: it was actually the latter. He's not a bad man. 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: He was just bad at his job. It doesn't seem 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: like he did what he did because he wanted to 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: hide what Jevn mcskimming had done. It sounds more like 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: he tried to make it go away because he didn't 19 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: believe that it was true. It sounds like he believed 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: mc skimming was just the victim of a really bad breakup. 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: He'd ended an affair, she hadn't taken it well, now 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: she was trying to destroy his reputation online, and so 23 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Coster seemed to have thought maybe what he needed 24 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: to do was try to prevent these horrible lies from 25 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: destroying the career of a good man. So he tried 26 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: to hurry things up and shut things down and hide 27 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: emails from ministers and not tell the people appointing the 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: next police commissioner that there were complaints against Mcskimming, and 29 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: he got angry at police officers who tried to raise concerns. Except, 30 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: as it turns out, Andrew Costa was wrong. Jeevn Mcskimming 31 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: was not a good man. He was a creep. The 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: woman's allegations should have been listened to. She wasn't destroying 33 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: the career of a good man. She was alerting authorities 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: to a bad man. But Andrew Costa was a police officer, 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: and it is one one of policing to investigate allegations 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and listen to complaints, not shut them down. So he 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: failed at the very basics of his job. And unfortunately 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: for him, while he may not be a bad man, 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: he ended up doing things that I think we can 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: agree are bad things, misleading, shutting down good police wanting 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: to raise concerns protecting a creep. Now, I don't know 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: is there really that much difference in the end? Is 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: there between being a bad man and being someone who 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: thinks they're doing the right thing but doing bad things 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: for him? The outcome is actually pretty much the same. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Whether he was bad or bad at his job, he 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: has lost his job and he's lost his reputation. For 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to news 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Talks 'd B from four pm weekdays, or follow the 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.