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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b Start your weekend off the

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Speaker 1: right way. Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B Yard and New Zealo. Good morning, welcome to News

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Speaker 2: Talks eDV. I'm Jack Tame with you through to midday today.

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Speaker 2: If it's a bit burner and your neck of the words,

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Speaker 2: good news. Before ten o'clock this morning, we have a

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Speaker 2: fantastic recipe, a perfect midwinter recipe, a little bit sweet,

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Speaker 2: little bit savory, perfect if you've got guests coming around

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Speaker 2: this weekend. A Moroccan spice, lamb and pumpkin recipe. It's

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Speaker 2: one of those slow cook ones that just makes the

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Speaker 2: entire house smell amazing. We'll have your film picks for

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Speaker 2: this weekend before ten o'clock, including a new one from

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Speaker 2: the Burtons looking at a mister Burton. So I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you about that it got the actress and

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Speaker 2: daughter of Richard Burton, Cate Burton, is the woman behind

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Speaker 2: that film. And then after ten o'clock this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a real treat Australian idol legend Guy Sebastian

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Speaker 2: not only with us, but with us in studio, not

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Speaker 2: only being interviewed, but performing for us as well. So

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Speaker 2: really really looking forward to that. Right now, it is

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Speaker 2: eight minutes past.

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Speaker 3: Nine, Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: So years ago when I first moved to New York,

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Speaker 2: I think, what was it like twenty started twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: When the end of twenty eleven started twenty twelve, I

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Speaker 2: spent my first year living in a railroad apartment above

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Speaker 2: an Ecuadorian fruit shop on Second Avenue right, And to

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Speaker 2: be honest, it was a It was a character building experience.

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Speaker 2: I went weeks without heating or hot water in winter,

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Speaker 2: and my windows had almost no effect whatsoever, and keeping

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Speaker 2: out the ceaseless sound of trucks thundering past my bedroom

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Speaker 2: en route to restock the city. And when I first arrived,

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Speaker 2: they had just started construction on the Second av subway

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Speaker 2: a few blocks from my home, and the project at

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Speaker 2: the time was hitting a few speed bumps. Bedrock turned

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Speaker 2: out to be a whole lot deeper than anticipated, so

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Speaker 2: they needed to send the tunnel a whole lot deeper

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Speaker 2: than anticipated. A worker nearly died after being stuck in

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Speaker 2: waste deep slot on site, and what was supposed to

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Speaker 2: be a controlled explosion sent rocks flying all over a

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Speaker 2: busy Manhattan intersection. Curiously, the second AB subway in New

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Speaker 2: York was first proposed in the nineteen twenties, which Wikipedia

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Speaker 2: time that plan is first mused over the possibility of

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Speaker 2: the morning side deviation a train tunnel in central Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Stage one of the Second AV subway was a three

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Speaker 2: point two kilometer tunnel. The Central rail Link is three

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Speaker 2: point five k Second AV ended up costing more than

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Speaker 2: seven billion dollars. The Central rail Link blew out, however,

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Speaker 2: many times, but at last check was just under six billion.

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Speaker 2: The weird thing about a big underground tunnel development is

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Speaker 2: that most of us never fully appreciate the scale of

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Speaker 2: the work. It's obvious, I suppose, But even if you

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Speaker 2: to a few cones and traffic delays up above the ground,

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Speaker 2: you have no real perspective about the extraordinary activities happening

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Speaker 2: somewhere beneath your feet. It's different to a big stadium,

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Speaker 2: Orkland Transport has this week released its updated transit map

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Speaker 2: with the CRLs stations. Apparently they've done sixteen hundred test

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Speaker 2: they've run trains more than five thousand kilometers KA tie

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Speaker 2: driving trains at seventy kilometers an hour directly underneath Auckland CBD,

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Speaker 2: and at no point have I felt so much as

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Speaker 2: touring the Littleton Tunnel can't help but think that is

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Speaker 2: pretty cool. After riding along on a VIP tour yesterday

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Speaker 2: Was it? The mayor was asked it was a ride

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Speaker 2: You know you are a nerd when you're less excited

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Speaker 2: It's funny. After years of construction, the second av subway

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Speaker 2: wait to do the same thing here soon. The Team

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Speaker 2: ninety two. Ninety two is our text number. If you

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Speaker 2: want to see me a message this morning, don't forget

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Speaker 2: that standard text costs apply. You can email me as

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Speaker 2: well if you like Jack at Newstalks ZEDB dot co

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Speaker 2: dot NZ. We will analyze the Warriors' choices and this

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Speaker 2: ridiculous test the black Caps versus Zimbabwe. That as much

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Speaker 2: as I love test cricket and I love test cricket.

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Speaker 2: I'm finding very hard to get too excited about our

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Speaker 2: sporto is going to be here. So next up, though,

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Speaker 2: Kevinmilon will kick us off for our Saturday Morning together.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack, Tam,

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Speaker 2: It's Saturday morning. This is News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News.

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Speaker 2: Talks EDB, sixteen minute past nine on Newstalks ZB. Aaron

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Speaker 2: on the email this morning says Jack, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I have a sort of childlike wonder when it comes

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Speaker 2: to writing a on a subway. Took New Zealand long enough,

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Speaker 2: but glad that Auckland is finally getting there. So twenty

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Speaker 2: Not sure when in twenty twenty six. Usually it's best

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Speaker 2: to set one's expectations later in the year when it

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Speaker 2: comes to these kind of things. Ninety two. If you

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Speaker 2: want to send us a message, Jack, CRL is achieving

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Speaker 2: its goal. I want to ride it. I love the

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Speaker 2: London Underground and honestly I'm going to bring up a

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Speaker 2: from New Plymouth at the moment, though, is Harry. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thanks for that, Harry. Seventeen minutes past nine, Kevin Milner

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Speaker 2: is here this morning, killder Kevin Jack.

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Speaker 4: I'm pleased that you were so positive about that work

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Speaker 4: that's been done on the subway and your wonderful city.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those kind of really positive things that

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Speaker 4: there's enough bad stuff going on that to celebrate some

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Speaker 5: I feel great about it. I'm pleased you've done it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I saw Nicola Wellis yesterday. She was

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Speaker 2: one of the you know, one of the VIPs who've

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Speaker 2: you know, it feels like it'll be familiar to any

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Speaker 2: And I was like, exactly, exactly. It's twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: It's I just yeah, I think I think, I think

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Speaker 2: it's fantastic. So I can't. I can't wait to go

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Speaker 2: It is kind of childlike. I think Aaron's right on

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Speaker 2: the email, you know, it's something that that's kind of

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Speaker 2: there's a bit of wonder that comes from from going

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Speaker 2: I remember going through the Waterview Tunnel for the first

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Speaker 4: You haven't lost that jet given everything that you've done

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Speaker 4: know the incredible busy lives that you lead, that you

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Speaker 4: still get that childish pleasure from smallest well they're not reached,

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Speaker 4: they're not at all smallest things in this case, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no too, right, So, Kevin, you're off to a

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Speaker 2: special event in christ Church tonight.

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Speaker 4: Sat Beads College Old Boys Annual Dinner, and I'm the

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Speaker 5: He was the secretary of the first SIMP Beads Old

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Speaker 4: Boys Dinner that includes presenting annual prizes to twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: five three most successful old boys in sport, culture and business.

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Speaker 4: I don't mind admitting Jack, it means quite a lot

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Speaker 4: Hay should never let lack of success at any particular

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Speaker 4: change sometimes remarkably quickly. You've just got to remain nimble enough,

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Speaker 4: to be the theme of most speech tonight.

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Speaker 2: Jack Ah, so good, Kevin. How special not only to

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Speaker 2: be welcome back, but to be invited back for the

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Speaker 2: one hundredth, yeahniversary, that is it's not one hundred and fourth,

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Speaker 2: it's not the sixty second. They said, this is the

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Speaker 2: one hundredth. We're going to need someone really extra special tonight.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the former bottom of the class. Yes, right,

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Speaker 2: that's right, Yeah, lovely, Ah, it's going to be really special,

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Speaker 2: do you know, Kevin? It is a bit of a

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Speaker 2: weekend of anniversaries, right, So you're you're you're celebrating the

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Speaker 2: one hundredth anniversary. It needs to go. Yeah, so today

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Speaker 2: being what the ninth of August is the ninety ninth

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Speaker 2: anniversary since one Zedb's very first broadcast, you believe, Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: so there you go?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy a ninety nine years since our very first broadcast.

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Speaker 2: I was a bit surprised. To be honest, I didn't

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Speaker 5: No, So there you go.

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Speaker 8: Nine years.

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Speaker 4: I think it kind of melded, it got because at

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. You know what I thought

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Speaker 2: Couldn't even watch it in New Zealand, couldn't even watch

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Speaker 5: You know, that was an amazing series between.

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Speaker 11: You can't turn down test matches these days, No you can.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, We're probably don't lose the game now after all that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, Richard Waringer re signing with New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 11: very surprised if Mauonga doesn't see any action in July,

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Speaker 11: Different test matches across those weeks, and then you've got

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Speaker 11: I say still no. I think you've got to concentrate

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Speaker 5: As best as it can be. Although the fact.

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Speaker 11: Now Australia is going to pick players from overseas is

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's good. Yeah, yeah. I tend to agree.

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Speaker 2: I think with you on that one. Warriors Bulldogs hal

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Speaker 5: Yes to.

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Speaker 2: Big opportunity to win to stop the slide.

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Speaker 5: WHI would be good for them.

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Speaker 2: Hey, bad news, this is this is a disaster.

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Speaker 5: Cooking or baking coming out.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, So Phil has just texted me to say Jack,

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Speaker 2: We were you six weeks ago with this information? I

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Speaker 5: What's seven of the world something for free on television exactly?

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Speaker 5: It was on the internet.

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Speaker 2: I wish I'd known that before the series finished.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, maybe you can watch the full replays now every

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, anyway, all right, you ever got weekend say,

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Speaker 2: this weekend. Right now it is twenty eight to ten.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. Guy has had an incredible career,

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Speaker 2: Before we rip into things, I'm not sure if you've

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Speaker 2: just seen the news this morning, but very sad news

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Speaker 2: out of the US. Jim Lovell is the or was

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Speaker 2: the ninety seven year old commander of Apollo thirteen, and

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Speaker 2: news from NASA this morning that he has died after

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Speaker 2: a pretty remarkable life, so at the age of ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: So he was. He was Tom Hanks's character in the

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Speaker 2: Apollo thirteen movie. Yeah, no, I hadn't caught the news. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: you wondered where I was going with that.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, always, thank you for keeping me in four.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's how we Yeah, like most of

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Speaker 2: us engaged with Apollo thirteen and the amazing stories obviously

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Speaker 2: through the movie. Right to hang on which character?

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Speaker 7: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so yeah he was. He was Tom hanks

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Speaker 2: character Jim love I reminded of the Apollo thirteen mission. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: two different films to talk about this morning. Let's start

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Speaker 2: off with a little bit of a listen to a

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Speaker 2: movie showing in cinemas at the moment. This is Weapons.

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Speaker 15: Missus Gandy's room was totally empty. And do you know

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Speaker 15: why because the night before, at two seventeen in the morning,

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Speaker 15: every kid woke up, got out of bed, walked downstairs

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Speaker 15: and into the dark and they never came back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, friend, chis any film that has

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Speaker 2: a speaking in a creepy voice makes me feel nervous.

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Speaker 14: Look, I know how you feel about horror films, but

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Speaker 14: occasionally a horror film comes along that you should definitely

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Speaker 14: check out. I mean, this year we've had incredible films.

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Speaker 14: We've had Sinners, which was absolutely fantastic. You know, people

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Speaker 14: are really pushing the boundaries with horror films these days.

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Speaker 14: And last year even four films were nominated for Oscars.

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Speaker 14: Four horror films were nominated for Oscars, So you know,

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Speaker 14: people are really kind of elevating this genre. And this

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Speaker 14: is one of the This is one that you should

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Speaker 14: probably is worth catching. It's quite quite a young guy writer,

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Speaker 14: director Zach Krieger, and He has done a couple of

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Speaker 14: films sort of is in collaborations. But his first film

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Speaker 14: that he sort of wrote and director was called Barbarian

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Speaker 14: and it did very very well. And if you're a

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Speaker 14: fan of that film, there is a little cameo of

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Speaker 14: a star from Barbarian turns up in this film as well.

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Speaker 14: When he wrote the script, it was highly sought after.

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Speaker 14: Everybody wanted it. Hills Company wanted it, everybody wanted it

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Speaker 14: ended up at Newline and look, it's just it's I

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Speaker 14: really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 16: You heard the premise.

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Speaker 14: It's that simple, and that's what I love about it.

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Speaker 14: He's picked something really clever, and many kind of the

479
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Speaker 14: whole film was just sort of unpicking this.

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Speaker 16: He gets straight into it. At the beginning of.

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Speaker 14: The film, we learn what has happened, and we know

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Speaker 14: this has happened purely from people's home security systems. They

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Speaker 14: picked up children leaving their homes or running past them.

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Speaker 14: And these children left their homes, they ran kind of weirdly.

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Speaker 14: Their arms were out like they were airplanes, as if

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Speaker 14: they were into some kind of trance, and off they go,

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Speaker 14: and that's really all we know. And the film kind

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Speaker 14: of kicks off it kicks off about a month later.

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Speaker 14: The police have no idea where these kids are, they

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Speaker 14: have no idea where they've gone. They've been searching, they've

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Speaker 14: been investigating, and they've been investigating two people in particular,

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Speaker 14: because from this class there are only two people left.

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Speaker 14: One is one other kid, Alex he was the only

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Speaker 14: kid who turned up at school that day, and their teacher,

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Speaker 14: Miss Gandy, And so there's a lot of investigating that goes.

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Speaker 7: On with them.

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Speaker 14: Surely they must have known something, Surely they must know

498
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Speaker 14: the kids. We're planning something, you know, where have they gone?

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Speaker 14: So they're very much in the limelight. And the film

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Speaker 14: starts by looking at Miss Gandy, and then it unfolds

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Speaker 14: in chapters and each person we get sort of each

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Speaker 14: person's point of view of what's been going on in chapters.

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Speaker 14: So I think sometimes when you use different chapters and

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Speaker 14: different point of views to tell a story, it can

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Speaker 14: be a bit clunky. But what I loved here, and

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Speaker 14: what's really clever, is that each chapter reveals more about

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Speaker 14: the story, twists and turns, keeps it going. It's quite unpredictable.

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Speaker 14: And then finally kind of this villain arrives and interestingly

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Speaker 14: this up to now, there's some really good jump frights

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Speaker 14: that will catch you. And you know we've talked about

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Speaker 14: I'm terrible and I'm always jumping in my chair at

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Speaker 14: these things, even though i know they're coming.

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Speaker 16: But it's kind of more of this building tension.

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Speaker 14: It's just weird and creepy and there's tension builds and

515
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Speaker 14: it's quite psychological. The final at though, just goes total

516
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Speaker 14: black comedy. It's like the director's gone, Okay, I've.

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Speaker 16: Freaked you out, you're all but tense. Let's have a laugh, and.

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Speaker 14: It gets quite absurd and quite fun and you finally

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Speaker 14: sort of find yourself laughing at this film's angrowth.

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Speaker 16: So look, they've done a really good job. I yeah, No, it's.

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Speaker 14: Pacey, it's a bit unpredictable, it's well shot, well crafted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good fun.

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Speaker 16: If you're like a horror.

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Speaker 2: Yeah with them, Well it sounds like you really enjoyed it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that is there is weapons, so that is showing in cinemas.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 2: I still think I'm just gonna need a bit more

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Speaker 2: of a nudge friendshiescap. But I'm like, you did a

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Speaker 2: very good sell this morning. Yeah, no, I know you

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Speaker 2: did well. Next up. This is also showing in cinemas

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Speaker 2: and let's have listen to mister Burton.

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Speaker 6: I want to be an actor.

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Speaker 2: To be an actor, you will need to move in

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Speaker 2: certain social spheres.

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Speaker 6: In it to your most.

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Speaker 2: I would like you through screen. Okay, tell us about

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Speaker 2: mister Burton.

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Speaker 14: This is a film by Mark Evans and it stars

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Speaker 14: Harry Laughty. If anyone has watched Industry and you google

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Speaker 14: Harry Laughty, you'll know you'll be very familiar with this

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Speaker 14: young man. And he is exceptionally good as a young

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Speaker 14: Richard Burton. So this is the film of really Richard

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Speaker 14: Burton's formulative years in Wales, and we learn about his upbringing.

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Speaker 14: He came from a very poor family. His mother had

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Speaker 14: died when he was young. His father basically just didn't

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Speaker 14: really have room for him at his house, didn't look

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Speaker 14: after him.

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Speaker 16: His sister took him.

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Speaker 7: She brought him up.

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Speaker 16: He was kind of always getting in trouble.

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Speaker 14: But he had this English teacher, Philip Burton, because of

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Speaker 14: course he was he was Richard Jenkins, and he had

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Speaker 14: this English teacher who just you know, kind of recognized

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Speaker 14: that he was quite bright. And he had to leave

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Speaker 14: school to get a job and things. But then the

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Speaker 14: teachers sort of took him under his wing a bit

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Speaker 14: and said, look, I can find a way to bring

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Speaker 14: you back into school. And this relationship began which lasted

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Speaker 14: their entire lives, and in fact, Philip Burton ended up

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Speaker 14: taking in Richard. He was a huge lover of the theater.

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Speaker 14: He got him involved in acting, he had taught him

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Speaker 14: everything he knew. He got him a scholarship to Oxford

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Speaker 14: for six months. He really gave him this start in

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Speaker 14: life to go on and become one of the greatest

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Speaker 14: actors of all time.

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Speaker 16: So we're seeing.

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Speaker 14: What I liked about this film is that it is

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Speaker 14: a different period. We've seen a lot of films about

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Speaker 14: Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor and his hell raising and things.

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Speaker 14: But here you see this young man from this incredibly

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Speaker 14: difficult background works so hard to try and get to,

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Speaker 14: you know, to make something of himself. But at the

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Speaker 14: same time, there's a lot of pride there, there's a

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Speaker 14: lot of shame, there's a lot of self hate, you know,

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Speaker 14: there's a lot of other things unfolding here.

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Speaker 16: I think this is quite special.

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Speaker 14: This film cool hebe Jones, Leslie Manvil also start and

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Speaker 14: Harry LAUTI and I think together they've coated something amazing.

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Speaker 14: And actually this is the first time that Richard Burton's daughter,

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Speaker 14: Kate Burton, who was also an actress, has participated in,

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Speaker 14: or shown or even watched a film about her father,

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Speaker 14: and she thinks it's very special as well. And she

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Speaker 14: actually joins me on the Sunday session tomorrow to talk

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Speaker 14: about her father and the film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that sounds great, Okay, looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Francisca. So those films once again, mister Burton

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Speaker 2: and Weapons was the horror film that Francisca told us about. First.

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Speaker 2: We'll have details for those movies up on the news

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Speaker 2: Talk ZB website in a couple of minutes. That delicious

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Speaker 2: sounding Moroccan spice lamb and pumpkin recipe for you right now.

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Speaker 2: It's called it a ten.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack team keep him a conversation going

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Speaker 1: through the weekend US.

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Speaker 2: Talk ZEDB Thursday minutes, the team on news Talks EDB

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Speaker 2: if it's just one of those weekends, will you think

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Speaker 2: you know what?

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Speaker 14: Nah?

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think I want to leave my living room.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to stay planted on the couch. After ten

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, we've got our screen time segment three

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Speaker 2: shows that you can watch or stream at home that

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Speaker 2: we're going to recommend, so stick around for that. Right now, though,

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Speaker 2: it is time to catch up with Rows of Flanning

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Speaker 2: and one of the two Raw sisters who's with us

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Speaker 2: this morning, Kilder.

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Speaker 17: Good morning.

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Speaker 18: How are you, Jack?

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Speaker 2: I'm so well. Thanks. You guys are in Melbourne in Australia.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, we're in Australia.

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Speaker 2: How good. What's what are you doing? Are you just

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Speaker 2: getting some slightly warmer weather or so? I know you're

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne probably is probably colder than here.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, no, it's actually really cold here. We're here doing workshops.

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Speaker 17: We had one last night and then we've got a

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Speaker 17: big community event this morning.

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Speaker 18: What's over We've got about a hundred people coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look at you guys. Just take it

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Speaker 2: out of the world. Don't worry about that.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, no, it's awesome to be on the ground over here. Actually,

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Speaker 18: we've always talked about coming here, but we're here so good.

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Speaker 2: Well, regardless of where anyone is, I think we can

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Speaker 2: all do a little bit of warming up this weekend

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Speaker 2: and you have a fantastic recipe to do just that.

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Speaker 2: This is a perfect midwinter tweety little dinner, slow cooked

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Speaker 2: Moroccan lamb with pumpkin.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so.

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Speaker 17: I've actually been making this heap and it's freezer friendly too,

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Speaker 17: so make a big batch free some pull it out later.

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Speaker 18: So what we do is we add some oil into

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Speaker 18: our You want a deep.

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Speaker 17: Like a casserole type dish, like a Dutch oven situation

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Speaker 17: kind of yeah, like a Dutch oven, such a one

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Speaker 17: with a lid.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, could you do?

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Speaker 18: Yes, I do. You can chuck it in the slow cooker.

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Speaker 2: Nice, okay, very good, all right.

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Speaker 17: So add your oil and add your red onion, so

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Speaker 17: just thinly slice that up. You can add a brown

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Speaker 17: onion if you want to, add a carrots, some garlic

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Speaker 17: because we've got four garlic clothes.

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Speaker 18: Crush, chop, and then we add.

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Speaker 17: In some tomato paste, some freshly grated ginger, cumin seed, smoke, paprika,

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Speaker 17: all the spices, guys, ground tumeric, cinnamon, chili flakes. So

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Speaker 17: if you've got a little bit of a kroky throat

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Speaker 17: like me, perfect for those sides, because.

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Speaker 18: You're getting lots of goodies in there. And obviously if

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Speaker 18: you don't have any.

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Speaker 17: Of those spices, that's totally fine. You can add something

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Speaker 17: else or leave it out. And then we've got some prunes.

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Speaker 17: So what we do is we kind of fry those

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Speaker 17: off for a couple of minutes, and you fry them

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Speaker 17: off until you start getting all those like yummy flavors

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Speaker 17: coming through the smells. And then you add a can

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Speaker 17: of tomatoes. We've got two cups of vegge stock.

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Speaker 18: In there, but you could use beef.

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Speaker 17: Stock, chicken stock, whatever you fancy. And then this is

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Speaker 17: the fun part, adding in your lamb shanks. So we've

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Speaker 17: got four lamb shanks that we have on the recipe there.

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Speaker 18: But if you don't have lamb shanks, I've done it

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Speaker 18: with some.

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Speaker 17: Dice beef before or dice lamb, and that's absolutely delicious.

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Speaker 17: If you are a vegetarian and you don't have lamb

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Speaker 17: or red meat, you can add in the can of

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Speaker 17: chickpeas or butter beans or lentils.

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Speaker 18: It just won't take as long. So we say allow

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Speaker 18: the lamb shanks to simmer.

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Speaker 17: For about two and a half three hours. If you're

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Speaker 17: obviously doing chip peas, you'd do it for about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 17: But that's all in the recipe if you're wanting to

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Speaker 17: do that. We're also adding in some pumpkin so again, potatoes, cumera,

671
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Speaker 17: sweet potato, whatever you want to call it. You can

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Speaker 17: add that into similar it away, and honestly, it just

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Speaker 17: makes the whole house smell so delicious.

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Speaker 18: And while that's cooking, I like to make.

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Speaker 17: Up a little wee herbi lemon millet mit. So we

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Speaker 17: cook up some millets, and millet's just a glutien free grain.

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Speaker 17: It only takes seven minutes to cook one of mug

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Speaker 17: on my favorite grains that we'd like to use, but

679
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Speaker 17: you can obviously use anything else.

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Speaker 18: Cook that up and then we.

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Speaker 17: Just fluff it up with the fork, toss through some herbs, lemon,

682
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Speaker 17: zest and juice, extraversion, olive oil and almonds, and then

683
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Speaker 17: just put some of that in your bowl. Top it

684
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Speaker 17: with your we you know, lamb casserole, pumpkin deliciousness, and

685
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Speaker 17: you've got yourself a winter warming meal.

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Speaker 18: It's great.

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Speaker 2: It sounds so good gutting a crowd or a week night,

688
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Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And I mean you could quite easily double

689
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Speaker 2: it if you've got a big cast role dish or

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Speaker 2: something like you could experiment with all sorts of different

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Speaker 2: cuts I reckon as well. Absolutely, just as you're describing it,

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Speaker 2: it just I feel like I can smell it already,

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Speaker 2: you know. It's just like one of those dinners that

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Speaker 2: it's just going to make the whole house smell so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, We've we've been using a lot of first flight homes,

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Speaker 17: first light homes, first light farms. Such a great range

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Speaker 17: of slow coach meats. We actually did They've got like

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Speaker 17: a box slow coach box which we dabbled in and

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Speaker 17: that was yum.

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Speaker 2: Oh that sounds great. Okay, Look, we're going to make

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Speaker 2: sure that recipe is up on the news talks you'd

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Speaker 2: be website. Hey, your podcast is going game buses at

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Speaker 2: the moment, eh.

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Speaker 18: How Yeah. We love the pondy it.

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Speaker 17: It's a great time smug on it of our ketch

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Speaker 17: up the potty Yeah yeah, the potty No. There's yeah,

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Speaker 17: some really great, great episodes that we've done. One of

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Speaker 17: our really popular ones about how to build a cost

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Speaker 17: effective pantry. A lot of people I think, you know,

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Speaker 17: food and cooking well as time consuming, inexpensive and that

712
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Speaker 17: you need every every ingredient out there, but you can

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Speaker 17: actually do it in a really cost effective way.

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Speaker 18: So if you haven't listened to it that one, go

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Speaker 18: and listen to it right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh so good. Hey, thank you so much, Rosa. We

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Having a great time in Australia. Don't forget.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you can hear more of the Two Raw

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Speaker 2: Sisters on their podcast. You can get incredible recipes through

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Speaker 2: the Two Raw Sisters app as well, and that slow

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Speaker 2: cook Moroccan lamb and pumpkin recipe, like I said, will

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Speaker 2: be on the News Talks. They'd be website.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 1: know Saturday morning with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 6: That'd be Hey, thank you.

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Speaker 2: For your feedback of this hour. We've had heaps of messages.

727
00:37:02,853 --> 00:37:04,973
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm the only one who's really excited

728
00:37:05,013 --> 00:37:08,733
Speaker 2: about the prospect of Auckland's Central rail Link opening. I

729
00:37:08,733 --> 00:37:10,933
Speaker 2: think the latest we have on the opening time is

730
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Speaker 2: that it's going to be sometime next year, but I

731
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Speaker 2: think probably safe to assume that it's going to be

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Speaker 2: the latter half of next year. Peter sent me an

733
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Speaker 2: email to say Jack totally agree regarding Auckland's Central Rail Link.

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Speaker 2: It is many decades too late, but better late than ever.

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Speaker 2: I like you will be queuing up to ride on

736
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Speaker 2: it nice and early. Do you know, Peter that I'm

737
00:37:27,853 --> 00:37:30,893
Speaker 2: actually such a nerd when it comes to this kind

738
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Speaker 2: of thing that my friends and I used to play

739
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Speaker 2: a game online where you would design subway systems that

740
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Speaker 2: don't exist for cities around the world. So like, we

741
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Speaker 2: go online and design a whole imagine a subway system

742
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Speaker 2: for christ Church and be like, oh, imagine if this existed,

743
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Speaker 2: how cool would that be? Anyway, Yep, there's a reason

744
00:37:50,213 --> 00:37:51,973
Speaker 2: it took me until I was about twenty years old

745
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Speaker 2: to get my first girlfriend. Peter Margaret flicked me not

746
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Speaker 2: to say jack. Regarding Test cricket this morning, Those India

747
00:37:57,933 --> 00:38:01,613
Speaker 2: England games were utterly fantastic at the last hour or

748
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Speaker 2: so of the series. On the fifth day of the

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Speaker 2: Fifth Test. I don't think it was the fifth day,

750
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Speaker 2: but the last day of the Fifth Test was the

751
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Speaker 2: most tense and exciting cricket I've ever seen. The reason

752
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Speaker 2: it was so exciting, well, one of the many reasons

753
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Speaker 2: even if you're not a cricket fan you can probably

754
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Speaker 2: appreciate the drama in this is that an English cricketer,

755
00:38:17,853 --> 00:38:20,733
Speaker 2: the last batsman in his team, trying to stop his

756
00:38:20,813 --> 00:38:23,573
Speaker 2: team from losing the game. Came out to bat with

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Speaker 2: a dislocated shoulder in a sling. So he had a

758
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Speaker 2: dislicated shoulder right in the sling, put a jersey over

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Speaker 2: the top, came out with all the pads and was

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Speaker 2: preparing to bat. The reason I tell you is because

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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock this morning, it has inspired our doctor

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Speaker 2: to take a closer look at dislicated shoulders. He's going

763
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Speaker 2: to explain how you get them and what to do

764
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Speaker 2: if there are things you can do to avoid getting

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Speaker 2: them again in the future. As well as that, of course,

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Speaker 2: our feature interview right after the ten o'clock news Australian

767
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Speaker 2: idol legend Guy Sebastian performing with us in studio. News

768
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Speaker 2: is next. Though it's Saturday morning, I'm Jack tam on

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Speaker 2: News talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with

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Speaker 1: Jack team news talk ZEB.

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Speaker 6: Out of the.

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Speaker 12: Stars and his calm Power of the World with some.

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Speaker 6: Hundred times.

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Speaker 12: Began and Guys Sebastian is an Australasian icon.

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Speaker 2: His career has been extraordinary. From winning the first season

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Speaker 2: of Australian idol back in two thousand and three to

778
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Speaker 2: carving out a place on the charts mentoring the next

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Speaker 2: generation of musical talent as a coach on the Voice Australia.

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Speaker 2: Guy has been in the spotlight for more than two

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Speaker 2: decades and now he is embarking on a new chapter

782
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Speaker 2: with his tenth, Yes, tenth album. It's called one hundred

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Speaker 2: Times Around the Sun and Guy Sebastian is with us

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Speaker 2: in studio No Less Kilda.

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Speaker 19: Welcome, thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: It is great to see you here in person. And

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Speaker 2: it has been a big few years. Right, One hundred

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Speaker 2: Times around the Sun took five years.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, like four in a bit years, four and a

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Speaker 19: half years. To way too long? Too long?

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Speaker 2: No is it too long?

792
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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 2: This is the thing because you wrote gazillions of songs

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Speaker 2: before whittling them down into the select few that made

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Speaker 2: this record. So talk to us about that process.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Look, I love writing. I'm writing every day. I might

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Speaker 19: not finish ideas every day, but constantly hearing chord progressions

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Speaker 19: and melodies and always putting little things into my phone

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Speaker 19: and so I'm constantly creating. And when it comes to

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Speaker 19: an album, I think early on. You know, I was

802
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Speaker 19: on idol, so won the first idle two thousand and three.

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Speaker 19: I think it sort of makes you.

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Speaker 2: Feel like it just makes me feel so old, Yes.

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Speaker 19: I mean I was twenty one. Then, don't do the math.

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Speaker 19: If people are watching, don't.

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Speaker 2: You look great?

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Speaker 6: Guy?

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Speaker 2: You've got just as energy because you're always forty three now.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, but just loving the writing process and the creative

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Speaker 19: process more than ever, I think, just because I've honed

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Speaker 19: in on all those skills of production and engineering and

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Speaker 19: musicianship and you know, writing lyrics and so it's it's yeah,

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Speaker 19: it's something that is a mentality that I had to change.

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Speaker 19: I think I felt this pressure like don't take longer

816
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Speaker 19: than a year, or you're going to.

817
00:41:24,493 --> 00:41:26,413
Speaker 7: Like forget.

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Speaker 19: Disappear, you know, become like disappeared to obscurity. And and

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Speaker 19: then there's like the pressure of doing the right thing

820
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Speaker 19: by fans. You know, you don't want to make them

821
00:41:38,013 --> 00:41:40,253
Speaker 19: wait too long? What is too long? And so I

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Speaker 19: used to have that kind of mentality govern a lot

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Speaker 19: of my my process, whereas obviously I get older and

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Speaker 19: navigating being a dad and everything else, and yeah, I

825
00:41:51,053 --> 00:41:53,173
Speaker 19: just got to this point where like I don't want

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Speaker 19: to release anything until I am stoked with it, Like,

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Speaker 19: I want to love every song. I don't want to

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Speaker 19: filler on there. I want every song to be great.

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Speaker 2: So do you find yourself sick and gissing there?

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Speaker 15: Though?

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Speaker 2: If you don't have a kind of endpoint, is there

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Speaker 2: a danger that you get into a bit where you're

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Speaker 2: always like, man, that song's ninety eight percent on point.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to just give it another couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks in case something comes up.

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Speaker 19: And I can give it a huge danger, massive danger.

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Speaker 19: I think that the thing I always try and remind

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Speaker 19: myself of, which can be difficult, is that an album

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Speaker 19: is a snapshot in time. It's a piece of art

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Speaker 19: that reflects those that time. Yeah, and you've got to

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Speaker 19: be comfortable with that and then just hit you know,

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Speaker 19: go like and go all right, that's it. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 19: closing off the project. I'm probably going to wake up,

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Speaker 19: you know, in a few weeks and hate this lyric.

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Speaker 19: So I think that's one of the best things about

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Speaker 19: creating art is you do look back in your cringe,

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Speaker 19: and that's a healthy thing. It's a healthy cringe because

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Speaker 19: you know you've moved forward.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to to, you know, blow

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00:42:52,893 --> 00:42:55,213
Speaker 2: your trumpet too much. But it sounds like this is wisdom.

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00:42:55,613 --> 00:42:58,053
Speaker 2: What you're describing as wisdom having first of all, the

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Speaker 2: confidence in your own kind of creative capacity to know

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Speaker 2: that actually you don't need to put these arbitrary limits

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00:43:05,213 --> 00:43:06,813
Speaker 2: on yourself. You don't need to say, you know, I've

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00:43:06,813 --> 00:43:08,693
Speaker 2: got to have this out immediately, I've got to prove this.

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00:43:08,973 --> 00:43:10,453
Speaker 2: People are going to forget me. You don't have those

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Speaker 2: kind of concerns. But also you can look at a

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Speaker 2: piece of work and go, you know what, inherently there

859
00:43:15,853 --> 00:43:20,773
Speaker 2: are always going to be things that I'm not every

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Speaker 2: day of the week one hundred percent satisfied with because

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Speaker 2: it's a snapshong time. That is wisdom to being able

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Speaker 2: to look at a piece of work like that.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, And when it comes to art, I think a

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Speaker 19: lot of the way we look at things is it's

865
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Speaker 19: not necessarily better, it's just different. And so so there's

866
00:43:35,453 --> 00:43:42,573
Speaker 19: there's certain elements of a like as a producer, sounds changed.

867
00:43:43,253 --> 00:43:46,773
Speaker 19: I swear by the month you might use a snare,

868
00:43:46,973 --> 00:43:49,773
Speaker 19: and in the in the nerdy production world that snare

869
00:43:49,853 --> 00:43:52,493
Speaker 19: is now dated like literally weeks. Lady, You're like, oh,

870
00:43:52,573 --> 00:43:56,333
Speaker 19: what it still isn't from that sample batch, and so

871
00:43:56,453 --> 00:43:58,413
Speaker 19: you're just got to be happy and just move on.

872
00:43:58,573 --> 00:44:00,013
Speaker 2: So you said you write every day and you do

873
00:44:00,053 --> 00:44:03,333
Speaker 2: it on your phone. Are you writing lyrics or are

874
00:44:03,373 --> 00:44:06,573
Speaker 2: you hearing something and then recording it as a it's

875
00:44:06,613 --> 00:44:08,933
Speaker 2: memoy you? Are you humming to yourself? How does that work?

876
00:44:09,853 --> 00:44:12,453
Speaker 19: It's very interesting looking at I love looking at other

877
00:44:12,493 --> 00:44:14,773
Speaker 19: people who have songwriters. I love looking at their voice

878
00:44:14,773 --> 00:44:21,013
Speaker 19: notes because very interesting. It'll be mainly melodies, and I

879
00:44:21,093 --> 00:44:22,813
Speaker 19: might be with on my piano, I might be on

880
00:44:22,853 --> 00:44:27,093
Speaker 19: a guitar. I mean, I could play you some some

881
00:44:27,133 --> 00:44:31,253
Speaker 19: things off my phone. If there's someone out phone, I

882
00:44:31,293 --> 00:44:34,573
Speaker 19: think I left it out there someway something. But it's

883
00:44:34,653 --> 00:44:38,293
Speaker 19: generally just things that are that pop into my head.

884
00:44:38,333 --> 00:44:42,413
Speaker 19: I've always been so mind blown by that pro like

885
00:44:42,413 --> 00:44:45,053
Speaker 19: like where Sometimes I'm like where did that come from?

886
00:44:45,053 --> 00:44:45,133
Speaker 3: Me?

887
00:44:45,293 --> 00:44:48,293
Speaker 19: And and sometimes it's good and you're like where did that?

888
00:44:48,053 --> 00:44:49,133
Speaker 3: That sounds great?

889
00:44:49,173 --> 00:44:51,533
Speaker 19: But like battlescars, for example, I was driving down the

890
00:44:51,573 --> 00:44:55,693
Speaker 19: one oh one in LA and I just heard this

891
00:44:56,133 --> 00:44:58,853
Speaker 19: melody in my head. I had to pull over before

892
00:44:58,853 --> 00:45:01,293
Speaker 19: I forgot and record it before I forgot it. So

893
00:45:01,653 --> 00:45:03,853
Speaker 19: I've pulled over I've hit record, and I started actually

894
00:45:03,893 --> 00:45:05,413
Speaker 19: singing the words.

895
00:45:05,533 --> 00:45:12,653
Speaker 6: Is battlescar, I just don't look fade gonna change.

896
00:45:13,053 --> 00:45:15,533
Speaker 19: And so then I'm you know, I just resumed my

897
00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:16,933
Speaker 19: drive and I get to where I am, and I

898
00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:19,733
Speaker 19: pick up my guitar and start playing some chords and

899
00:45:19,733 --> 00:45:21,933
Speaker 19: and then I listened to the voice note and I'm like, oh,

900
00:45:22,413 --> 00:45:26,613
Speaker 19: I sung battle Scars. That yeah, that actually that really works.

901
00:45:26,653 --> 00:45:30,093
Speaker 19: So it was different to when I'm actually really kind

902
00:45:30,093 --> 00:45:33,973
Speaker 19: of feeling and processing something and I'm writing intentionally with

903
00:45:34,093 --> 00:45:36,613
Speaker 19: lyrics that I need that are coming from an emotion. No,

904
00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:39,853
Speaker 19: this was like I just started singing the words about

905
00:45:39,853 --> 00:45:44,533
Speaker 19: I wasn't thinking about war or being damaged or trauma

906
00:45:44,693 --> 00:45:47,933
Speaker 19: or anything like that. Yet the words battle Scars came

907
00:45:47,973 --> 00:45:49,533
Speaker 19: out and then it ended up being the biggest hit

908
00:45:50,213 --> 00:45:52,853
Speaker 19: in my career, and I'm I'm David Letterman, and like

909
00:45:52,893 --> 00:45:55,373
Speaker 19: it went platinum in the US and from it from

910
00:45:55,453 --> 00:45:59,093
Speaker 19: a little random idea while I was driving. So I've

911
00:45:59,093 --> 00:46:01,933
Speaker 19: always been just so fascinated where did that come from?

912
00:46:02,013 --> 00:46:02,213
Speaker 7: You know?

913
00:46:02,253 --> 00:46:03,893
Speaker 3: Why did that visit me?

914
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:07,093
Speaker 2: You know, I'm Malcolm glebwell head the theory where it

915
00:46:07,173 --> 00:46:10,413
Speaker 2: was like genius comes in two forms. One is where

916
00:46:10,453 --> 00:46:13,093
Speaker 2: someone just works and works and works and works and

917
00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:15,533
Speaker 2: works and works at their craft their entire career, you know,

918
00:46:15,613 --> 00:46:18,453
Speaker 2: dedicate sixteen hours a day their entire life. And another

919
00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:21,093
Speaker 2: is like you're like sting. You just wake up in

920
00:46:21,133 --> 00:46:25,013
Speaker 2: the area, like every breath you tag and it's like

921
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,013
Speaker 2: it took for four minutes and there you go. I'm

922
00:46:27,053 --> 00:46:29,453
Speaker 2: you know, going to sell you know, fifteen million of

923
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:31,573
Speaker 2: those records or whatever. And it kind of yeah, it's

924
00:46:31,653 --> 00:46:35,173
Speaker 2: either like incredible dedication to an art or just like

925
00:46:35,253 --> 00:46:39,453
Speaker 2: this kind of wave of the kind of inexplicable, an explained,

926
00:46:39,573 --> 00:46:40,853
Speaker 2: unexplainable genius.

927
00:46:40,573 --> 00:46:43,253
Speaker 19: Which yeah, nature versus nurture.

928
00:46:43,493 --> 00:46:44,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right.

929
00:46:44,173 --> 00:46:47,613
Speaker 19: And I've got an eleven year old who I know

930
00:46:47,733 --> 00:46:51,853
Speaker 19: there's things that he is doing at eleven I can't

931
00:46:51,853 --> 00:46:54,053
Speaker 19: teach that, no one could teach him. He's got this

932
00:46:54,213 --> 00:46:57,573
Speaker 19: instinct like he's he gets emotional when he sings, and

933
00:46:57,933 --> 00:47:01,093
Speaker 19: he he does these runs and these scales and these

934
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:04,573
Speaker 19: tricks that are so unbelievably musical that like I know,

935
00:47:04,653 --> 00:47:07,973
Speaker 19: adults can't do like adults musicians can't do the same thing.

936
00:47:08,333 --> 00:47:10,013
Speaker 19: And I'm not being one of those dads that are

937
00:47:10,053 --> 00:47:11,413
Speaker 19: just like gushing about my kid.

938
00:47:11,653 --> 00:47:13,413
Speaker 2: He's really good, he's going to be.

939
00:47:16,093 --> 00:47:19,573
Speaker 19: But Archie is actually he's really musical and really got it,

940
00:47:19,693 --> 00:47:24,693
Speaker 19: really great instinct. And but but you know, some may say, well,

941
00:47:25,093 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 19: genetically he's you're a musician and you're an artist. He's

942
00:47:28,093 --> 00:47:32,613
Speaker 19: he's he's a Sebastian. So but it's actually such a

943
00:47:32,613 --> 00:47:36,333
Speaker 19: combination of the you know, one huge thing is I

944
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 19: grew up in Salisbury and Adelaide, this tiny suburban Adelaide,

945
00:47:39,613 --> 00:47:43,373
Speaker 19: So it wasn't necessarily conducive to oh, dream big, you know,

946
00:47:43,453 --> 00:47:46,213
Speaker 19: you can be anything you want. It wasn't necessarily that

947
00:47:46,253 --> 00:47:50,973
Speaker 19: sort of culture, especially back then. Whereas for my son,

948
00:47:51,053 --> 00:47:54,013
Speaker 19: he just watches his dad on I'm on TV singing

949
00:47:54,053 --> 00:47:54,853
Speaker 19: I'm on tour.

950
00:47:56,293 --> 00:47:56,893
Speaker 3: Here's my dad.

951
00:47:56,973 --> 00:48:00,133
Speaker 19: He's just like with Oprah and now he's just met

952
00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:03,013
Speaker 19: the Pope and they're like, he's watched these big moments

953
00:48:03,053 --> 00:48:04,893
Speaker 19: in my life and it's like, oh, yeah, that's not

954
00:48:05,253 --> 00:48:06,373
Speaker 19: that's a possibility.

955
00:48:06,453 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and yeah, I.

956
00:48:08,013 --> 00:48:10,653
Speaker 19: Think being able to dream that big and feeling like

957
00:48:10,693 --> 00:48:14,173
Speaker 19: it's it's achievable is half the battle. But then also

958
00:48:15,013 --> 00:48:18,213
Speaker 19: just the practice every single day. He's got that fire

959
00:48:18,293 --> 00:48:20,533
Speaker 19: that I had as a kid. He would come home

960
00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:22,893
Speaker 19: from school and I swear six hours later he's still

961
00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:25,973
Speaker 19: singing and practicing little runs and things like that. So

962
00:48:26,413 --> 00:48:29,413
Speaker 19: you know, I think it's the hours that people didn't

963
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:32,493
Speaker 19: see that sting put in. Yeah, yeah, to be able

964
00:48:32,533 --> 00:48:35,093
Speaker 19: to pick up the you know, the guitar and right

965
00:48:35,373 --> 00:48:37,213
Speaker 19: like half read like you've.

966
00:48:37,053 --> 00:48:39,653
Speaker 2: Got you've got to you've got to buy a ticket

967
00:48:39,693 --> 00:48:43,173
Speaker 2: if you want to win the lottery. Yes, yes, exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

968
00:48:43,213 --> 00:48:45,213
Speaker 2: that's such a good point. Look, we are so delighted

969
00:48:45,213 --> 00:48:47,533
Speaker 2: to have you in New Zealand. Congratulations one hundred times

970
00:48:47,533 --> 00:48:49,253
Speaker 2: around the Sun. And you're going to perform for us,

971
00:48:49,293 --> 00:48:50,813
Speaker 2: which is a real treat.

972
00:48:50,973 --> 00:48:53,093
Speaker 19: I'm going to strip it back a little bit. I've

973
00:48:53,093 --> 00:48:57,533
Speaker 19: brought my keyboard player in and this is a song

974
00:48:57,533 --> 00:48:59,533
Speaker 19: that I released not too long ago, a few weeks

975
00:48:59,533 --> 00:49:03,133
Speaker 19: ago from the new album called Maybe, and I've got

976
00:49:03,213 --> 00:49:07,213
Speaker 19: Jacks here on keys He's Jacob's a beast on Okay, sir,

977
00:49:07,413 --> 00:49:09,453
Speaker 19: thank you, bro, You're ready.

978
00:49:09,733 --> 00:49:11,253
Speaker 3: Here we go.

979
00:49:25,573 --> 00:49:27,853
Speaker 6: I know they see you should take it home.

980
00:49:29,013 --> 00:49:31,893
Speaker 19: When you're not looking this wedding, you find some month

981
00:49:31,933 --> 00:49:33,093
Speaker 19: it's worth you while.

982
00:49:34,013 --> 00:49:39,613
Speaker 6: Try to stay patient. But how could I? How could I? Oh,

983
00:49:39,813 --> 00:49:42,333
Speaker 6: all I know is I'm done, not allie.

984
00:49:43,293 --> 00:49:47,573
Speaker 12: I can't help an if I keep falling head on

985
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:49,733
Speaker 12: the feet, you make a mess out of me.

986
00:49:50,973 --> 00:49:54,093
Speaker 6: Oooh, don't want to leave it up to me it

987
00:49:55,133 --> 00:49:58,893
Speaker 6: Give me a moment, I'll take a cad. I know

988
00:49:59,053 --> 00:49:59,813
Speaker 6: they say that.

989
00:50:00,173 --> 00:50:03,533
Speaker 12: Good things come to those who are wake by, But

990
00:50:03,853 --> 00:50:04,653
Speaker 12: I'm hold it.

991
00:50:05,213 --> 00:50:11,693
Speaker 6: The bar got paid up. I've never begod and weed, and.

992
00:50:12,693 --> 00:50:16,333
Speaker 12: I know they say their good things come to those

993
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:16,973
Speaker 12: who wick.

994
00:50:17,213 --> 00:50:21,893
Speaker 6: Why Bood I'm holding the bie got paid off. Don't

995
00:50:21,933 --> 00:50:25,413
Speaker 6: want to die with you waste to chase. I won't

996
00:50:25,453 --> 00:50:28,293
Speaker 6: let you go slipping through my hands. That's why I'm

997
00:50:28,373 --> 00:50:33,813
Speaker 6: moving past wanta. Look, I'm already making plans to beat

998
00:50:33,933 --> 00:50:37,933
Speaker 6: your man. Oh, all I know means I'm telling them

999
00:50:38,013 --> 00:50:38,493
Speaker 6: all in.

1000
00:50:39,493 --> 00:50:44,293
Speaker 12: I can't up he of fiky, falling head on the feet,

1001
00:50:44,653 --> 00:50:45,573
Speaker 12: make a mess.

1002
00:50:45,413 --> 00:50:49,253
Speaker 6: Out of me. Oh, don't want to leave it up

1003
00:50:49,333 --> 00:50:54,773
Speaker 6: to me? Give me a moment, I'll tea can. I

1004
00:50:54,893 --> 00:50:58,493
Speaker 6: know they say that good things come to those who

1005
00:50:58,533 --> 00:50:58,973
Speaker 6: are wick.

1006
00:50:59,213 --> 00:51:02,973
Speaker 12: Why bood I'm holding if I got paid off?

1007
00:51:05,213 --> 00:51:09,933
Speaker 6: Never be good? He waited. I know they say that

1008
00:51:10,253 --> 00:51:13,053
Speaker 6: good things come to those who wait.

1009
00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:17,293
Speaker 12: Why Bood, I'm on good if Fine got plaid off.

1010
00:51:17,973 --> 00:51:21,693
Speaker 6: All I know is I'm done. I'm all in. I

1011
00:51:21,773 --> 00:51:26,493
Speaker 6: can't help it if I keep folding head of the Thief,

1012
00:51:26,733 --> 00:51:30,813
Speaker 6: you make a mess out of me. Pooh, don't want

1013
00:51:30,853 --> 00:51:31,853
Speaker 6: to leave it up.

1014
00:51:31,733 --> 00:51:37,533
Speaker 12: To lay give me a moment out saegad. I know

1015
00:51:37,693 --> 00:51:41,653
Speaker 12: they say that good things come to those who wait.

1016
00:51:41,893 --> 00:51:43,573
Speaker 6: Why Wood, I'm on good.

1017
00:51:43,933 --> 00:51:48,893
Speaker 12: If Fine can't play up payway, they haven't been good.

1018
00:51:49,653 --> 00:51:54,573
Speaker 6: Wait. I know they say any good things come to

1019
00:51:54,813 --> 00:51:59,013
Speaker 6: those who wait. Why Wood, I'm older and Fine con't

1020
00:51:59,253 --> 00:51:59,933
Speaker 6: clean up.

1021
00:52:12,093 --> 00:52:15,013
Speaker 2: That was incredible. Thank you so much. That was I've

1022
00:52:15,013 --> 00:52:18,813
Speaker 2: got like chills up my spine. Guys, that was incredible.

1023
00:52:19,213 --> 00:52:22,253
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, congratulations on the new album, and thank

1024
00:52:22,293 --> 00:52:24,453
Speaker 2: you so much for being here. We really appreciate it

1025
00:52:24,573 --> 00:52:27,973
Speaker 2: having me a great chat. So good that is Guy Sebastian.

1026
00:52:28,053 --> 00:52:31,493
Speaker 2: His new album is one hundred Times Around the Sun.

1027
00:52:32,053 --> 00:52:34,373
Speaker 2: Right now, it's twenty past ten. You're with Jack Tame.

1028
00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:35,893
Speaker 2: This is News Talks.

1029
00:52:35,893 --> 00:52:37,653
Speaker 3: He'd be star.

1030
00:52:37,813 --> 00:52:41,413
Speaker 1: You're Weekend on the Right Way, Saturday Morning with Jack

1031
00:52:41,493 --> 00:52:43,093
Speaker 1: Daim News Talks IV.

1032
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:46,813
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes past ten on News Talks, edb Jack,

1033
00:52:47,053 --> 00:52:51,213
Speaker 2: amazing tune. Jack. That was a wonderful interview, an unbelievably

1034
00:52:51,373 --> 00:52:54,733
Speaker 2: fantastic song. Jack, wonderful interview. As for that raw singing,

1035
00:52:54,813 --> 00:52:57,933
Speaker 2: simply amazing Jack. Listening to that interview with Guy Sebastian,

1036
00:52:57,933 --> 00:52:59,773
Speaker 2: I just want to say, after watching him as a judge,

1037
00:52:59,773 --> 00:53:03,453
Speaker 2: et cetera, he is such an encouraging and decent person.

1038
00:53:03,573 --> 00:53:05,573
Speaker 2: The music world is just so lucky to have him.

1039
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:08,493
Speaker 2: Best wishes in kindest regards, Thank you so much for

1040
00:53:08,493 --> 00:53:12,373
Speaker 2: those messages. I've got to say, you know, sometimes, like

1041
00:53:12,853 --> 00:53:15,013
Speaker 2: I've been working in this business for a long time now,

1042
00:53:15,093 --> 00:53:17,693
Speaker 2: and sometimes you meet, you know, pretty high profile people

1043
00:53:17,693 --> 00:53:20,053
Speaker 2: have had really interesting careers, and it's not that they're

1044
00:53:20,093 --> 00:53:22,573
Speaker 2: divas necessarily, but you can tell that they're sort of

1045
00:53:22,613 --> 00:53:26,173
Speaker 2: just going through the motions a little bit. Guy Sebastian

1046
00:53:26,533 --> 00:53:29,373
Speaker 2: is so nice, Like off the here, he is just

1047
00:53:29,733 --> 00:53:32,653
Speaker 2: so nice. While we're faffing arounding all the microphones ready

1048
00:53:32,733 --> 00:53:34,373
Speaker 2: so that he can do his performance in studio, all

1049
00:53:34,453 --> 00:53:36,493
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, I was like, I'm sorry, this

1050
00:53:36,493 --> 00:53:38,973
Speaker 2: is is to take a few minutes. He was totally fine.

1051
00:53:39,173 --> 00:53:41,693
Speaker 2: He and I were just yarning away. He was just

1052
00:53:41,773 --> 00:53:43,893
Speaker 2: an absolute joy to meet. So yeah, it was a

1053
00:53:43,973 --> 00:53:47,213
Speaker 2: real a real pleasure now before eleven o'clock on Newstalks,

1054
00:53:47,253 --> 00:53:50,053
Speaker 2: he'd be We're in the garden, and even though things

1055
00:53:50,053 --> 00:53:52,173
Speaker 2: are a little bit chilly all around the country right now,

1056
00:53:52,413 --> 00:53:54,653
Speaker 2: our man in the garden says, there are a couple

1057
00:53:54,653 --> 00:53:57,773
Speaker 2: of things you can do right now. Get planting right now,

1058
00:53:57,813 --> 00:54:00,973
Speaker 2: strawberries for example, right now. So he's going to give

1059
00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:03,053
Speaker 2: us his tips on that very shortly. Right now, though,

1060
00:54:03,093 --> 00:54:05,773
Speaker 2: it's time to get your screen time picks for the weekend.

1061
00:54:05,853 --> 00:54:09,133
Speaker 2: Tara Walls, our screen time expert. She's here with her

1062
00:54:09,173 --> 00:54:12,613
Speaker 2: three shows to recommend this week. He Tara, good morning.

1063
00:54:13,053 --> 00:54:15,813
Speaker 2: Let's begin with a show streaming on Netflix. Tell us

1064
00:54:15,813 --> 00:54:16,813
Speaker 2: about Wednesday.

1065
00:54:17,973 --> 00:54:20,453
Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a new season of Wednesday, which is

1066
00:54:20,493 --> 00:54:24,813
Speaker 16: Netflix's very entertaining remake of the Adams Family story, directed

1067
00:54:24,893 --> 00:54:27,173
Speaker 16: and produced by Tim Burton. And as soon as I

1068
00:54:27,173 --> 00:54:30,173
Speaker 16: say Tim Burton, you understand the vibe. This is a

1069
00:54:30,253 --> 00:54:33,493
Speaker 16: supernatural fantasy series with a very dark sense of humor

1070
00:54:33,493 --> 00:54:36,373
Speaker 16: to it. It stars Geno Otaga, and Or Tager and

1071
00:54:36,493 --> 00:54:39,373
Speaker 16: Catriine Zita Jones, and it's told from the perspective of

1072
00:54:39,453 --> 00:54:43,213
Speaker 16: the Adams family daughter Wednesday, who is sent to boarding

1073
00:54:43,253 --> 00:54:46,813
Speaker 16: school and has to use her special powers to solve

1074
00:54:47,173 --> 00:54:49,493
Speaker 16: a murder mystery, and it's one of those shows that

1075
00:54:50,253 --> 00:54:52,933
Speaker 16: it brings all the things you remember from the original

1076
00:54:53,013 --> 00:54:56,293
Speaker 16: Adams Family sitcom, the same characters, the same quirks, but

1077
00:54:56,413 --> 00:54:58,933
Speaker 16: it still feels fresh and modern. There's lots of special

1078
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Speaker 16: effects here. It's set in a contemporary world, and I

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00:55:01,933 --> 00:55:04,373
Speaker 16: think that's why it's been such a hit for Netflix.

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00:55:04,413 --> 00:55:06,253
Speaker 16: It's a great mix of the old and the new,

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00:55:06,413 --> 00:55:08,493
Speaker 16: and that probably pulls in lots of generations to it

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00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:12,853
Speaker 16: as well. Tim Burton adds his gothic, creepy acetic to it,

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00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:15,093
Speaker 16: which elevates it as well. But this is a show

1084
00:55:15,133 --> 00:55:18,653
Speaker 16: that's having fun. It's sharp and dark and funny. It's

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00:55:18,693 --> 00:55:22,053
Speaker 16: a fresh twist on a murder mystery series. And with

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00:55:22,173 --> 00:55:23,733
Speaker 16: Tim Burton behind it, you know it's going to be

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00:55:23,813 --> 00:55:25,013
Speaker 16: quirky and a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Superb Okay, that's Wednesday. That's on Netflix. On Neon

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00:55:29,173 --> 00:55:30,413
Speaker 2: tell Us about Outlander.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is Outlander Blood of My Blood, which is

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00:55:34,413 --> 00:55:36,973
Speaker 16: a new historical drama and it's a prequel to the

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Speaker 16: series Outlander. Outlander is a very popular show. It's I

1093
00:55:41,453 --> 00:55:43,733
Speaker 16: think it's eighth season is coming out next year, and

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00:55:43,773 --> 00:55:46,213
Speaker 16: it's based on a best selling book by Diana Gabaldon.

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00:55:46,533 --> 00:55:49,813
Speaker 16: It's about a nurse called Claire who visits Scotland, accidentally

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00:55:49,813 --> 00:55:52,413
Speaker 16: travels back in time to the eighteenth century, and falls

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Speaker 16: in love with a guy called Jamie Well. This new series,

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00:55:55,133 --> 00:55:57,213
Speaker 16: Blood of My Blood is made by the same team

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Speaker 16: and it tells the story of Jamie and Clear's parents,

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Speaker 16: So it's set a generation before Outlander takes place, but

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Speaker 16: it's very similar to Outland itself. It's still set in

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Speaker 16: scott still has two different timelines, one in the seventeen

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Speaker 16: hundreds and one in the nineteen hundreds, and there's two

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Speaker 16: love stories at play here, so it's not really doing

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00:56:14,773 --> 00:56:16,933
Speaker 16: anything different. It's a bit of time traveling, a bit

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00:56:16,973 --> 00:56:19,973
Speaker 16: of romance, a bit of historical drama. But it will

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00:56:20,013 --> 00:56:23,533
Speaker 16: feel very familiar for Outlander fans. It is supposed to

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00:56:23,613 --> 00:56:26,173
Speaker 16: be a standalone show, so you could start watching this

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00:56:26,253 --> 00:56:29,413
Speaker 16: if you haven't seen Outlander before. It does throw a

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00:56:29,453 --> 00:56:31,413
Speaker 16: lot at you in the first episode, just because it's

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00:56:31,413 --> 00:56:34,693
Speaker 16: setting up so many characters and storylines, So I think

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00:56:34,733 --> 00:56:37,613
Speaker 16: this is one particularly for Outlander fans. They'll be very

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00:56:37,653 --> 00:56:41,093
Speaker 16: excited about this. It's fun to see those familiar characters

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00:56:41,173 --> 00:56:45,093
Speaker 16: pop up in a younger form, and it keeps a

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00:56:45,093 --> 00:56:48,173
Speaker 16: beloved story alive in a slightly different way.

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00:56:48,253 --> 00:56:51,413
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, Okay, that's Outlander, Blood of My Blood. And

1117
00:56:51,493 --> 00:56:54,853
Speaker 2: also on Netflix Stolen Heist of the Century.

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00:56:56,013 --> 00:56:58,813
Speaker 16: Yeah. One thing you can rely on Netflix for is

1119
00:56:58,853 --> 00:57:02,693
Speaker 16: a really strange and unusual and very bingeable true crime

1120
00:57:02,693 --> 00:57:05,813
Speaker 16: documentary that might go to on a lazy Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 16: And this Netflix latest true crime documentary is no exception.

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00:57:10,013 --> 00:57:12,693
Speaker 16: This is Stolen Heist of the Century and it's about

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00:57:12,693 --> 00:57:15,413
Speaker 16: a diamond heist that took place in two thousand and

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00:57:15,413 --> 00:57:18,853
Speaker 16: three and the Diamond district of Antwerp. The thieves broke

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00:57:18,893 --> 00:57:21,573
Speaker 16: into a vault and took millions of dollars in diamonds,

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00:57:22,213 --> 00:57:24,493
Speaker 16: but pulled it off without setting off any alarms or

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00:57:24,573 --> 00:57:28,293
Speaker 16: raising any suspicion. It seemed like the most impossible of crimes.

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Speaker 16: And so this documentary talks to a lot of people

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00:57:31,053 --> 00:57:33,973
Speaker 16: who were involved, from the detectives trying to solve the case,

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00:57:34,013 --> 00:57:36,653
Speaker 16: to one of the thieves themselves who was the mastermind

1131
00:57:36,693 --> 00:57:39,213
Speaker 16: behind it all. And there's a bit of you know,

1132
00:57:39,253 --> 00:57:41,373
Speaker 16: you're not sure who to believe? Can you trust everything

1133
00:57:41,373 --> 00:57:44,213
Speaker 16: that's been said here? And just so many twists and turns.

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00:57:44,293 --> 00:57:46,853
Speaker 16: It's a very slick watch, drops you straight into the

1135
00:57:46,853 --> 00:57:49,893
Speaker 16: story straight away, and it's not trying to do anything

1136
00:57:49,973 --> 00:57:53,813
Speaker 16: too fancy. The story itself is so weird and wonderful

1137
00:57:53,853 --> 00:57:56,053
Speaker 16: that that's enough to kind of carry the show along.

1138
00:57:56,173 --> 00:57:59,213
Speaker 16: So yeah, one of those stranger than fiction tales. Lots

1139
00:57:59,213 --> 00:58:02,413
Speaker 16: of twists and turns, lots of unusual characters and told

1140
00:58:02,453 --> 00:58:03,653
Speaker 16: in a really entertaining way.

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00:58:03,773 --> 00:58:07,173
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Okay, cool, that's Stolen Heist of the Century. That's

1142
00:58:07,173 --> 00:58:11,733
Speaker 2: on Netflix Wednesday. Tim Burton's Adams Family drama is also

1143
00:58:11,813 --> 00:58:15,373
Speaker 2: on Netflix, and Outlander Blood of My Blood. That one

1144
00:58:15,533 --> 00:58:17,773
Speaker 2: is on Neon. All of the shows will be up

1145
00:58:17,773 --> 00:58:20,933
Speaker 2: on the News TALKSB website. Jack Guy Sebastian was the

1146
00:58:20,933 --> 00:58:24,893
Speaker 2: best radio I have heard in months. Fantastic says die

1147
00:58:25,253 --> 00:58:27,413
Speaker 2: Think You Die ninety two ninety two. If you want

1148
00:58:27,453 --> 00:58:29,373
Speaker 2: to send us a message this morning, it's just coming

1149
00:58:29,453 --> 00:58:29,973
Speaker 2: up to ten.

1150
00:58:29,933 --> 00:58:37,893
Speaker 1: Thirty, getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

1151
00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:39,693
Speaker 1: Team on News TALKSB.

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00:58:40,413 --> 00:58:46,813
Speaker 9: My life is brilliant, My love is pure. I saw

1153
00:58:46,973 --> 00:58:52,213
Speaker 9: ananga of that Adam show. She smiled at me on

1154
00:58:52,253 --> 00:58:52,933
Speaker 9: the subway.

1155
00:58:54,213 --> 00:58:55,453
Speaker 6: She was with another man.

1156
00:58:57,453 --> 00:59:00,573
Speaker 9: I want you some sleep one night because.

1157
00:59:00,373 --> 00:59:03,093
Speaker 2: I've got come on, you know the words.

1158
00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:08,453
Speaker 6: You're beautiful, beautiful.

1159
00:59:07,813 --> 00:59:10,773
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. We'll turn it back the hands of

1160
00:59:10,853 --> 00:59:14,133
Speaker 2: time this morning. You see, we've noticed a bit of

1161
00:59:14,173 --> 00:59:20,853
Speaker 2: a trend, right. Anniversary tours are increasingly growing in popular popularity.

1162
00:59:20,893 --> 00:59:22,493
Speaker 2: It's you know, an anniversary tour is like a tour

1163
00:59:22,533 --> 00:59:27,973
Speaker 2: when a band gets back together to celebrate a significant milestone,

1164
00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:33,253
Speaker 2: or you know, an anniversary of a legendary album. So

1165
00:59:33,293 --> 00:59:36,493
Speaker 2: there are two big twentieth anniversary tours that are heading

1166
00:59:36,493 --> 00:59:39,853
Speaker 2: New Zealand this year. This weekend, block Party Land to

1167
00:59:39,893 --> 00:59:43,893
Speaker 2: perform their debut album, Silent Alarm in a twentieth anniversary showcase.

1168
00:59:43,933 --> 00:59:47,373
Speaker 2: And yes, James Blunt will be here later this year

1169
00:59:48,133 --> 00:59:51,613
Speaker 2: for a twentieth anniversary rendition of his Back to Bedlam album,

1170
00:59:51,613 --> 00:59:55,453
Speaker 2: which features hits like you Are Like Your Beautiful, you

1171
00:59:55,493 --> 00:59:58,173
Speaker 2: are beautiful Anyway, it just kind of made us think

1172
00:59:58,213 --> 01:00:01,213
Speaker 2: a little bit, right, if you turn back the hands

1173
01:00:01,213 --> 01:00:04,493
Speaker 2: of time twenty years, what did two thousand and five

1174
01:00:04,573 --> 01:00:06,333
Speaker 2: sound like? It turns out the two thousand and five

1175
01:00:07,093 --> 01:00:10,653
Speaker 2: was a bit of a cracker in terms of music.

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01:00:11,533 --> 01:00:14,493
Speaker 2: Our music reviewer Stelle Clifford has been going through it

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01:00:14,493 --> 01:00:16,293
Speaker 2: as well, looking at all of the hits, all the

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01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:18,413
Speaker 2: albums that were released in two thousand and five, and

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01:00:18,453 --> 01:00:22,093
Speaker 2: she's gonna join us before Midday to Day to walk

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01:00:22,173 --> 01:00:24,293
Speaker 2: down memory lane a little bit and give us her

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01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:27,573
Speaker 2: top picks the best albums of two thousand and five,

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01:00:27,613 --> 01:00:30,253
Speaker 2: the best albums that you will not believe are now

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01:00:30,333 --> 01:00:32,453
Speaker 2: twenty years old. So I'm really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: In a few minutes though, we're going to catch up

1185
01:00:34,693 --> 01:00:37,053
Speaker 2: with our Textbert and it has been a big twenty

1186
01:00:37,053 --> 01:00:39,853
Speaker 2: four hours or so in the world of technology. Chat

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01:00:39,933 --> 01:00:44,813
Speaker 2: GPT five has just been released. As the name suggests,

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01:00:45,173 --> 01:00:48,573
Speaker 2: Chat GPT has been released in different iterations, so they

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01:00:48,613 --> 01:00:52,533
Speaker 2: have different models of chat GPT and open Ai, which

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Speaker 2: is the company behind chat gpt, has just released chat

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01:00:54,973 --> 01:00:58,533
Speaker 2: GPT five. They say it's better than ever and I've

1192
01:00:58,573 --> 01:01:00,613
Speaker 2: put it to the test this morning, right, So I

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01:01:00,653 --> 01:01:03,893
Speaker 2: went to chat GPT five and I said, give us

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01:01:03,933 --> 01:01:07,053
Speaker 2: a paragraph on Saturday Mornings with Jack Thames. Sell us

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01:01:07,293 --> 01:01:10,213
Speaker 2: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame. So here's what chat GPT

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Speaker 2: five had to say. Okay, there is something utterly electric

1197
01:01:15,253 --> 01:01:18,813
Speaker 2: about Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame. It's that perfect blend

1198
01:01:19,053 --> 01:01:23,253
Speaker 2: of warmth, wit, and inspiration that kicks your weekend into gear.

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Speaker 2: Imagine easing into the weekend with Jack's calm, assured voice

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01:01:28,133 --> 01:01:32,613
Speaker 2: guiding you through the issues and stories that matter. Always sharp, thoughtful,

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01:01:32,773 --> 01:01:36,613
Speaker 2: and just a touch playful. Whether he's unpacking a hardheading interview,

1202
01:01:36,733 --> 01:01:40,533
Speaker 2: spotlighting and under the radar story, showcasing a musician, or

1203
01:01:40,573 --> 01:01:44,213
Speaker 2: sharing a lighthearted anecdote that just sticks with you, Jack

1204
01:01:44,253 --> 01:01:48,573
Speaker 2: makes every minute feel homie yet stimulating. By the time

1205
01:01:48,653 --> 01:01:53,413
Speaker 2: his show wraps up, you're not just up, you're uplifted, curious,

1206
01:01:53,613 --> 01:01:58,973
Speaker 2: ready to savor whatever the weekend has in store. I

1207
01:01:59,013 --> 01:02:02,373
Speaker 2: know what you're thinking. Chat GPT five, get your hand

1208
01:02:02,453 --> 01:02:04,733
Speaker 2: off it, putting.

1209
01:02:04,453 --> 01:02:08,013
Speaker 3: The tough questions to the newsweaker the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 8: The increase yet again of kids leaving school with literally

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Speaker 8: no qualification sixteen percent had nothing zervid seamos assaciet Education ministry.

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Speaker 10: I think the education systems become less appealing because you

1213
01:02:17,373 --> 01:02:20,093
Speaker 10: don't have a knowledgeable adult standing at the front telling

1214
01:02:20,133 --> 01:02:22,133
Speaker 10: you stuff that feels like if you miss out, you're

1215
01:02:22,133 --> 01:02:24,333
Speaker 10: missing out on something valuable. And that's because of the

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01:02:24,453 --> 01:02:27,253
Speaker 10: erosion of the curriculum. But I think it's also true,

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01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:31,053
Speaker 10: while absolutely critical to run the government education system, well

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Speaker 10: we need alternatives. And why it's surprised you to know

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Speaker 10: my version of that is charter school. If you set

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Speaker 10: up a school with flexible fundents, same money and so

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01:02:38,053 --> 01:02:39,973
Speaker 10: you guys need to do something different, then I think

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Speaker 10: you can start to fix some.

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Speaker 8: Of these problem right back Monday from six am the

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Speaker 8: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Rain Drover, Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes two eleven on Newstalk ZEDB. Jack, did

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Speaker 2: you mum write that review? Very droll? No, that was

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Speaker 2: Chat GPT five. It has just been released by open Ai,

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Speaker 2: their latest GPT model. Paul Stenhouse is our text Burton.

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Speaker 2: He's been looking into it, Hay, Paul.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's good at creative writing, they say, Jack. I

1231
01:03:08,733 --> 01:03:09,773
Speaker 20: tend to agree, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: I just reckon it's maybe a bit over the top,

1233
01:03:11,973 --> 01:03:14,213
Speaker 2: like just needs to tone things down about in that

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01:03:14,293 --> 01:03:15,533
Speaker 2: case about seventy percent.

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Speaker 20: They also say that they've managed to get it to

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01:03:18,893 --> 01:03:22,933
Speaker 20: you know, you know, hallucinate less or make things up less.

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01:03:22,973 --> 01:03:23,813
Speaker 2: Okay, but I don't know.

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01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:26,733
Speaker 20: Based on what I just heard you read out, I.

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Speaker 2: Believe Yeah, I walked into that very good.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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01:03:29,573 --> 01:03:33,293
Speaker 2: Well, they say that it is a little less sycophantic

1242
01:03:33,413 --> 01:03:36,053
Speaker 2: than some of the other GPT models, and I'm not

1243
01:03:36,093 --> 01:03:38,493
Speaker 2: convinced that it is in my case necessarily either. But

1244
01:03:38,573 --> 01:03:40,893
Speaker 2: never mind. So what does it mean that chat GPT

1245
01:03:41,053 --> 01:03:41,733
Speaker 2: five is here?

1246
01:03:42,493 --> 01:03:42,693
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:03:42,773 --> 01:03:43,213
Speaker 6: I mean so.

1248
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Speaker 20: Sam Outman, who's the CEO of open ai it called

1249
01:03:45,853 --> 01:03:50,013
Speaker 20: it like a steff change. He referred to it as

1250
01:03:50,293 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 20: you know when your iPhone got the retina display or

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01:03:53,453 --> 01:03:56,093
Speaker 20: your Samsung got one of your high definition screens, and

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01:03:56,133 --> 01:03:59,133
Speaker 20: you looked at it and you went, WHOA, this looks incredible,

1253
01:03:59,413 --> 01:04:01,533
Speaker 20: and then you looked back at your old iPhone and thought, man,

1254
01:04:01,653 --> 01:04:03,373
Speaker 20: did I how did I look at this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:06,333
Speaker 20: How did I see all these little dots and pixel

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Speaker 20: on the screen? He thinks that once you've used chat

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Speaker 20: GBT five you would never want to go back to

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01:04:12,813 --> 01:04:14,573
Speaker 20: four or any other iteration.

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Speaker 3: He says, it's just better.

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Speaker 20: They say that it feels a little more human.

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Speaker 2: They say it is.

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Speaker 20: Apparently great at creative writing and also coding as well,

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01:04:25,493 --> 01:04:27,733
Speaker 20: that two of the things that it's been kind of

1265
01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:31,493
Speaker 20: trained to do and do well. But I think one

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Speaker 20: of the things that most importantly it's done and I

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Speaker 20: don't know if what you read out says this or not,

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01:04:37,213 --> 01:04:38,653
Speaker 20: but they've trained the.

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Speaker 6: Model to fail, and fail.

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Speaker 20: Graciously because some of the issues with chet GBT four

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Speaker 20: was when you actually got it to start doing tasks

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Speaker 20: and it couldn't solve those tasks. Especially in the coding world.

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01:04:52,573 --> 01:04:53,853
Speaker 6: It just took shortcuts.

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Speaker 20: So if you were trying to get it to return

1275
01:04:55,733 --> 01:04:57,653
Speaker 20: something from a database and it couldn't figure out how

1276
01:04:57,693 --> 01:05:00,293
Speaker 20: to do it, it would just return you the same value

1277
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:02,933
Speaker 20: every time and hard code it, which obviously isn't what

1278
01:05:02,973 --> 01:05:06,253
Speaker 20: you wanted it to do. It also sometimes would lie

1279
01:05:06,413 --> 01:05:07,453
Speaker 20: about finishing things.

1280
01:05:07,813 --> 01:05:10,293
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, and so that's not good.

1281
01:05:10,373 --> 01:05:12,373
Speaker 20: So they've been really working to make sure that it

1282
01:05:12,533 --> 01:05:15,453
Speaker 20: actually fails and when it can't do something, it tries

1283
01:05:15,533 --> 01:05:19,013
Speaker 20: to say that it can't do something, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Which is which is what you can probably want.

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Speaker 3: It to do.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that's good. I mean that sounds good. I

1287
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Speaker 2: saw an example they were doing where they were they

1288
01:05:24,693 --> 01:05:27,853
Speaker 2: were basically putting in text prompts into the AI bot

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Speaker 2: and asking it to make games, and it seemed to

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Speaker 2: be pretty good at that, which is, you know, which

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Speaker 2: is impressive. But whether or not I suppose it's you know,

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Speaker 2: that much better than the last gptwo model. Will wait

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Speaker 2: and see. So so chet GPT though and and open

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Speaker 2: ai are probably still the leaders when it comes to

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Speaker 2: chatbots by some significant margin, right chat GPT is absolutely

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Speaker 2: huge at the moment.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean they have.

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Speaker 20: Then they released the numbers this week seven hundred million

1300
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Speaker 20: weekly users, which is just an astronomical number. In his writs,

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01:06:00,293 --> 01:06:02,573
Speaker 20: that's getting interesting when you're if you're interested.

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Speaker 6: In the business aspect of this.

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Speaker 20: They have five million paying business users, four million developers

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01:06:08,453 --> 01:06:11,733
Speaker 20: utilizing the API, so that's a little bit of an

1305
01:06:11,773 --> 01:06:15,733
Speaker 20: interesting ratio with five million paying customers seven hundred million

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Speaker 20: weekly users.

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Speaker 2: So no surprise.

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Speaker 20: The company is not yet profitable.

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Speaker 6: But some other numbers they mention.

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Speaker 20: It plans to raise from venture capitalists forty billion dollars

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Speaker 20: this year, so they obviously need the cash and they

1312
01:06:31,893 --> 01:06:34,413
Speaker 20: but they are on pace to pull in revenues of

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Speaker 20: twenty billion dollars by the end of the year. So

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Speaker 20: you have to kind of do some maths. If they

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Speaker 20: need forty million forty billion, they're going to have twenty

1316
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Speaker 20: billion in revenue.

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Speaker 6: They must be spending.

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Speaker 20: A ton of money and as you go through and

1319
01:06:50,093 --> 01:06:53,093
Speaker 20: use these new models, especially this new Chat GPT five,

1320
01:06:53,173 --> 01:06:55,973
Speaker 20: if you've never paid for Chat GPT, you've probably never

1321
01:06:56,013 --> 01:06:59,573
Speaker 20: come across a thing called reasoning, which basically is where

1322
01:06:59,573 --> 01:07:01,613
Speaker 20: the AI starts to talk to itself a little bit,

1323
01:07:01,933 --> 01:07:04,173
Speaker 20: and so it's spent some time thinking. But of course

1324
01:07:04,253 --> 01:07:07,253
Speaker 20: that actually makes it kind of more expensive because it

1325
01:07:07,293 --> 01:07:09,773
Speaker 20: needs to go back and use more tokens and use

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Speaker 20: more computing time and all of these things. So I

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01:07:11,733 --> 01:07:12,973
Speaker 20: can't imagine their costs.

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Speaker 6: Are going down anytime.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, but I think there's a lot of people who

1330
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Speaker 20: use it daily weekly who can't imagine now a life

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01:07:22,773 --> 01:07:23,173
Speaker 20: without it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, too right. I mean I use it in

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01:07:26,533 --> 01:07:28,533
Speaker 2: all sorts of you know, different parts of my life now.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing. It often just it just needs a

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01:07:32,093 --> 01:07:34,453
Speaker 2: week tweak from time to time, right, Like it's kind

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Speaker 2: of always eighty percent there in my experience and just

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01:07:37,613 --> 01:07:40,773
Speaker 2: needs a wee kind of human you know, component, just

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Speaker 2: to see I like.

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Speaker 20: That, Yeah, so do I I like that it's not

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Speaker 20: too perfect, No, kind of helps refine and then I massage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a good way to think about it. Hey,

1342
01:07:49,493 --> 01:07:52,093
Speaker 2: thank you so much, Paul, Paul Steinhouse is our text

1343
01:07:52,133 --> 01:07:54,493
Speaker 2: bit before eleven o'clock We're in the garden. Next up, though,

1344
01:07:54,533 --> 01:07:58,093
Speaker 2: our doctor is here with his thoughts on how best

1345
01:07:58,213 --> 01:08:03,053
Speaker 2: to avoid dislocating your shoulder. News you can use on

1346
01:08:03,093 --> 01:08:04,933
Speaker 2: Saturday mornings on News Dogs. He'd be.

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01:08:06,533 --> 01:08:11,053
Speaker 1: Away to kick off your weekend. Then with Jack Saturday

1348
01:08:11,053 --> 01:08:12,253
Speaker 1: Morning with Jack.

1349
01:08:12,053 --> 01:08:15,373
Speaker 3: Team News Talk V four to eleven on newtil ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Test cricket fans would have delighted in the drama

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01:08:18,973 --> 01:08:22,893
Speaker 2: of the Final Test between England and India. In the

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01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:26,893
Speaker 2: last session, English cricketer Chris Wokes walked to the crease

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01:08:26,973 --> 01:08:30,733
Speaker 2: with a dislocated shoulder in a sling. He came out

1354
01:08:30,773 --> 01:08:32,973
Speaker 2: to bat. Fortunately he didn't really have to actually do

1355
01:08:33,013 --> 01:08:35,293
Speaker 2: any batting. Well unfortunately for his team that lost the game.

1356
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Speaker 2: But it was a moment of drama, a moment of courage,

1357
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:41,213
Speaker 2: a moment best avoided if possible, and doctor Brian Betty

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01:08:41,293 --> 01:08:43,773
Speaker 2: is here with his advice on doing just that. Kilder,

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01:08:43,813 --> 01:08:47,413
Speaker 2: Brian kiro Jack, nice to be Here're nice to be chatting.

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Speaker 2: So what is the shoulder discasion? That start with the basics?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, so look, look, the shoulder is the most

1362
01:08:53,213 --> 01:08:55,933
Speaker 21: mobile joint in the body, and it's called a ball

1363
01:08:56,013 --> 01:08:58,413
Speaker 21: and socket. So the top of the upper arm has

1364
01:08:58,453 --> 01:09:01,213
Speaker 21: got a ball on it and it fits into a socket. However,

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01:09:01,293 --> 01:09:04,613
Speaker 21: the socket isn't quite deep enough and it has to

1366
01:09:04,613 --> 01:09:08,973
Speaker 21: be supported by tendons and muscles. So occasionally the ball

1367
01:09:09,053 --> 01:09:11,253
Speaker 21: can come completely out of the socket, and we call

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01:09:11,333 --> 01:09:15,773
Speaker 21: that a dislocation. Now commonly it dislocates forward, so the

1369
01:09:15,773 --> 01:09:20,573
Speaker 21: ball comes out forward. Occasionally it dislocates backed back, and

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01:09:20,613 --> 01:09:24,133
Speaker 21: we call that posterior. But it's it's a very very

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01:09:24,173 --> 01:09:25,733
Speaker 21: significant injury if it occurs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really nasty. And often often the problem is

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01:09:29,613 --> 01:09:31,533
Speaker 2: that once you've had it, you kind of more susceptible

1374
01:09:31,573 --> 01:09:35,213
Speaker 2: to having it again, right again, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, so so if it happens once, it happens again.

1376
01:09:37,013 --> 01:09:37,813
Speaker 21: Often that's the case.

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Speaker 2: So my brother has disicated his shoulder, oh I don't know,

1378
01:09:41,493 --> 01:09:43,373
Speaker 2: three or four times, quite a few times and needed

1379
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Speaker 2: surgery and stuff. But I remember he did it the

1380
01:09:45,413 --> 01:09:49,333
Speaker 2: first time playing rugby, and then the second time he

1381
01:09:49,573 --> 01:09:52,173
Speaker 2: was going for a run and he got swooped by

1382
01:09:52,173 --> 01:09:55,613
Speaker 2: a magpie and he and he thrust his hand in

1383
01:09:55,653 --> 01:09:59,413
Speaker 2: the ear as you do kind of reflexively and disicuted

1384
01:09:59,413 --> 01:10:02,453
Speaker 2: his shoulder. It was an absolute fiasco. Yeah yeah, anyway,

1385
01:10:02,653 --> 01:10:06,613
Speaker 2: So aside from being swooped by a magpie, how do

1386
01:10:06,653 --> 01:10:07,773
Speaker 2: they happen? What are the signs?

1387
01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:11,453
Speaker 21: Well, look, generally it's an accident or trauma that causes

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01:10:11,453 --> 01:10:13,693
Speaker 21: a dislocation. So it's some sort of force on the

1389
01:10:13,693 --> 01:10:16,413
Speaker 21: shoulder that allows the socket the ball to pop out

1390
01:10:16,453 --> 01:10:19,053
Speaker 21: of the socket. Now, now examples of that are you know,

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01:10:19,133 --> 01:10:21,093
Speaker 21: falling from a ladder and you grab onto the ladder

1392
01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:23,373
Speaker 21: and hold and wrenches the shoulder, it pops it out.

1393
01:10:23,853 --> 01:10:26,333
Speaker 21: Sport is really really common. So as we saw with

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Speaker 21: Chris Wokes and your brother's example with rugby, often a

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01:10:30,093 --> 01:10:33,333
Speaker 21: collision in sport or falling onto an outstretched arm will

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01:10:33,333 --> 01:10:35,693
Speaker 21: pop it out. And I suspect that's what happened with

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01:10:35,813 --> 01:10:40,333
Speaker 21: with Chris in his game car accidents. Obviously, direct trauma

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01:10:40,413 --> 01:10:42,053
Speaker 21: is the other thing that can actually cause it.

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Speaker 3: The other thing you.

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Speaker 21: Tapped into is some people have very very flexible shoulders

1401
01:10:47,533 --> 01:10:51,013
Speaker 21: and they can actually dislocate with the simplest thing, so

1402
01:10:51,213 --> 01:10:54,613
Speaker 21: rolling over in bed or stretching up to put out

1403
01:10:54,613 --> 01:10:57,613
Speaker 21: the washing that the shoulder can pop out. And I

1404
01:10:57,653 --> 01:10:59,933
Speaker 21: suspect what happened with your brother is because he'd had

1405
01:10:59,933 --> 01:11:02,653
Speaker 21: a couple of dislocations. The tendons and muscles are a

1406
01:11:02,693 --> 01:11:05,413
Speaker 21: bit weak, and that magpie sweep and he puts up

1407
01:11:05,453 --> 01:11:08,733
Speaker 21: his arm, bang out pops the shoulder. And in those situations, yeah,

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01:11:08,813 --> 01:11:11,493
Speaker 21: you do need surgery to try and try and fix it.

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01:11:11,973 --> 01:11:15,373
Speaker 2: Weak muscles. I think that'll be the weak muscles my brother. Yeah, situation. Yeah,

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01:11:15,373 --> 01:11:16,573
Speaker 2: so what do we do about it?

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01:11:17,733 --> 01:11:17,973
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:11:18,013 --> 01:11:19,973
Speaker 21: Look, I mean if it happens, look, it tends to

1413
01:11:20,013 --> 01:11:23,013
Speaker 21: be incredibly painful. You're not able to move the shoulder.

1414
01:11:23,253 --> 01:11:25,613
Speaker 21: Occasionally there's numbness down the arm. So and if you

1415
01:11:25,653 --> 01:11:27,933
Speaker 21: look at the shoulder, you can see that on one

1416
01:11:28,013 --> 01:11:30,213
Speaker 21: side there will be a bulge where it's popped out

1417
01:11:30,653 --> 01:11:33,573
Speaker 21: or a depression where it's it's gone backwards. So, look,

1418
01:11:33,573 --> 01:11:36,013
Speaker 21: if this happens, you need to see a doctor straight away,

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01:11:36,133 --> 01:11:38,773
Speaker 21: either at an urgent care clinic, at your GP or

1420
01:11:38,813 --> 01:11:42,213
Speaker 21: at a hospital. Will generally organize an X ray to

1421
01:11:42,253 --> 01:11:45,213
Speaker 21: make sure there's no fracture or anything. Then you'll you'll

1422
01:11:45,213 --> 01:11:49,493
Speaker 21: generally get some sedation so you relax, and then we'll

1423
01:11:49,573 --> 01:11:51,813
Speaker 21: just give the shoulder of a attraction to try and

1424
01:11:51,853 --> 01:11:55,013
Speaker 21: pop it back in. Now, generally once it happens, you

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01:11:55,053 --> 01:11:56,813
Speaker 21: need to be in the sling for one to two weeks.

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01:11:56,853 --> 01:11:58,693
Speaker 21: And that's actually what happened with Chris Wokes when he

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01:11:58,733 --> 01:12:02,013
Speaker 21: came out to do to bat at number eleven. He

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01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:04,453
Speaker 21: had his shoulder and a sling, so that just just

1429
01:12:04,453 --> 01:12:08,333
Speaker 21: stops it moving around void listing for about six weeks,

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01:12:08,493 --> 01:12:10,093
Speaker 21: and it can take up to three to four months

1431
01:12:10,133 --> 01:12:13,613
Speaker 21: to be fully fully back normally using your shoulder, and

1432
01:12:13,613 --> 01:12:16,093
Speaker 21: you often need quite a bit of physio to strengthen

1433
01:12:16,133 --> 01:12:17,333
Speaker 21: shoulder and make it work again.

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01:12:17,533 --> 01:12:21,453
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's tricky a and you know, like I say,

1435
01:12:21,853 --> 01:12:24,013
Speaker 2: you can sort of feel quite susceptible there for a

1436
01:12:24,053 --> 01:12:26,213
Speaker 2: wee while. Afterwards you can tear the cartilage and all

1437
01:12:26,213 --> 01:12:29,333
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. But it looks really nasty, so

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Speaker 2: very much best avoided, thank you so much. Brian. Doctor

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01:12:32,293 --> 01:12:35,173
Speaker 2: Brian Betty is our doctor with us this morning after

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01:12:35,213 --> 01:12:37,933
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock on Newstalks. He'd be our travel correspondent is

1441
01:12:37,973 --> 01:12:40,413
Speaker 2: in this week he is taking us through some of

1442
01:12:40,453 --> 01:12:43,813
Speaker 2: his top treats and treasures in Edinburgh, one of those

1443
01:12:43,853 --> 01:12:45,693
Speaker 2: cities that he reckons you've got to go back to.

1444
01:12:45,773 --> 01:12:47,493
Speaker 2: You know, there are some places you travel to in life,

1445
01:12:47,533 --> 01:12:48,973
Speaker 2: you're lucky enough to travel to and you think, you know,

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01:12:49,013 --> 01:12:50,693
Speaker 2: this has been amazing, but I probably only need to

1447
01:12:50,693 --> 01:12:53,493
Speaker 2: come here once. Edinburgh is a city that he's gone

1448
01:12:53,493 --> 01:12:55,693
Speaker 2: back to a few times and has just every time

1449
01:12:55,813 --> 01:12:57,813
Speaker 2: delighted him with something new. So he's going to give

1450
01:12:57,853 --> 01:13:01,133
Speaker 2: us his top tips for visiting Edinburgh after eleven o'clock.

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01:13:01,293 --> 01:13:02,693
Speaker 2: Right now, it's ten to eleven.

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01:13:03,573 --> 01:13:06,373
Speaker 1: Garding with still sharp one hundred bucks of free except

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01:13:06,533 --> 01:13:08,173
Speaker 1: the reason selected chainsaws.

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01:13:08,573 --> 01:13:11,213
Speaker 2: Hey Minnesota, living on news dogsb you with Jack taime

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01:13:11,453 --> 01:13:14,653
Speaker 2: root climb passes our men in the garden, Yoda Roote

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01:13:15,733 --> 01:13:16,413
Speaker 2: Kyoda Jack.

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Speaker 8: I loved the little comment you got from one of

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Speaker 8: the listeners about the railway stations.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm a I'm a big fan. I love

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01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:26,293
Speaker 2: a bit of infrastructure, but a bit of mass transit

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01:13:26,693 --> 01:13:29,773
Speaker 2: subterranean infrastructure is certainly my cup of tea. And you've

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01:13:30,133 --> 01:13:32,133
Speaker 2: you've put me in a note this morning to say

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01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:35,773
Speaker 2: that actually, if we want to get a good sense

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01:13:35,813 --> 01:13:38,013
Speaker 2: of how to complete a rail network, we shouldn't be

1465
01:13:38,013 --> 01:13:40,813
Speaker 2: looking to infrastructure. We should be looking to a slime mold.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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01:13:42,453 --> 01:13:44,573
Speaker 8: I just thought that is such a good story.

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01:13:45,173 --> 01:13:47,733
Speaker 3: Slime mold if you like.

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01:13:48,773 --> 01:13:53,093
Speaker 8: Cellular creatures that live in in companies there for like

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01:13:53,093 --> 01:13:59,013
Speaker 8: in large machine things whatever, they live there they themselves anyway.

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01:13:59,373 --> 01:14:01,213
Speaker 8: But what they do do is they eat. They eat

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01:14:01,573 --> 01:14:04,653
Speaker 8: oat flakes, for instance. And what some people have done

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01:14:04,693 --> 01:14:09,293
Speaker 8: in Tokyo was they put a net of Tokyo on

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01:14:09,333 --> 01:14:13,693
Speaker 8: the table and on every place where they wanted a station,

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Speaker 8: they put an oat flake. They put a colony of

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01:14:17,053 --> 01:14:19,453
Speaker 8: slime molds in the middle in the main station, if

1477
01:14:19,453 --> 01:14:22,973
Speaker 8: you like, and see what would happen. And these blinking

1478
01:14:23,093 --> 01:14:29,013
Speaker 8: things without a brain literally copied the Tokyo railway system

1479
01:14:29,493 --> 01:14:34,933
Speaker 8: with including very much improved systems of getting there better,

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01:14:35,053 --> 01:14:36,093
Speaker 8: quicker and shorter.

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01:14:36,293 --> 01:14:39,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, that's amazing. It's incredible, right, Like they've worked

1482
01:14:39,613 --> 01:14:43,173
Speaker 2: out the most efficient way between those different stations, or

1483
01:14:43,293 --> 01:14:45,253
Speaker 2: you know, the most efficient way to build a network. Yeah,

1484
01:14:45,253 --> 01:14:47,093
Speaker 2: it's incredible, incredible.

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01:14:47,213 --> 01:14:49,853
Speaker 8: That's there. You go anyway. I just want to tell

1486
01:14:49,853 --> 01:14:52,173
Speaker 8: you because this is good fun. Then you can check

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01:14:52,213 --> 01:14:53,493
Speaker 8: it on the website again.

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01:14:54,733 --> 01:14:55,533
Speaker 3: So tell me.

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01:14:55,653 --> 01:14:57,693
Speaker 2: When was it not usually thinking about like doing a

1490
01:14:57,693 --> 01:15:00,613
Speaker 2: whole lot in the garden except for crossings and hoping

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01:15:00,653 --> 01:15:02,853
Speaker 2: for things to get warmer and drier. But there are

1492
01:15:02,933 --> 01:15:04,853
Speaker 2: actually a couple of bits and pieces we should be

1493
01:15:04,893 --> 01:15:05,453
Speaker 2: getting onto.

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01:15:06,493 --> 01:15:09,493
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I was getting sick of it. You O, gosh,

1495
01:15:09,573 --> 01:15:10,853
Speaker 8: it was cold again last night.

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01:15:10,893 --> 01:15:11,573
Speaker 16: Blah blah blah.

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01:15:11,613 --> 01:15:15,613
Speaker 8: And then I thought, hell's bells. Strawberries. I usually plant

1498
01:15:15,653 --> 01:15:18,133
Speaker 8: them a bit earlier than this, and I thought this

1499
01:15:18,293 --> 01:15:20,933
Speaker 8: was something that because you get a very negative way

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01:15:20,933 --> 01:15:24,693
Speaker 8: of looking at and I thought totally forgotten about it.

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01:15:24,773 --> 01:15:27,733
Speaker 8: So here you go strawberries. You can plant them now, honestly,

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01:15:28,133 --> 01:15:31,693
Speaker 8: and they actually they actually would like a bit of

1503
01:15:31,693 --> 01:15:34,933
Speaker 8: a frost fry area, so that quite important. But we

1504
01:15:35,053 --> 01:15:39,373
Speaker 8: have many cool varieties and if you want some of those,

1505
01:15:39,453 --> 01:15:42,573
Speaker 8: usually the Zealand Gardener will give you the latest varieties

1506
01:15:42,613 --> 01:15:44,613
Speaker 8: and so on and support. You can read it all

1507
01:15:44,653 --> 01:15:48,013
Speaker 8: in there. But kamar Rosa is my favorite here in Canterbury.

1508
01:15:48,413 --> 01:15:50,853
Speaker 8: It does really well on the hills but also on

1509
01:15:50,933 --> 01:15:54,733
Speaker 8: the on the on the flats, and it grows quite quickly.

1510
01:15:55,173 --> 01:16:01,093
Speaker 8: Coming coming o real, coming, oh real, Spanish, this is Spanish actually,

1511
01:16:02,813 --> 01:16:06,133
Speaker 8: And and then the short day varieties as well, like

1512
01:16:06,493 --> 01:16:10,773
Speaker 8: almost Seascape and sandri Andreos. All these things are now

1513
01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:13,973
Speaker 8: available at your gund center. And I just wanted to say,

1514
01:16:14,013 --> 01:16:17,253
Speaker 8: please don't forget because I don't know about you, but

1515
01:16:17,533 --> 01:16:21,933
Speaker 8: I love the strawberries there linking brilliant.

1516
01:16:22,293 --> 01:16:24,533
Speaker 2: So I just this is a bit cheeky. I just

1517
01:16:24,653 --> 01:16:27,893
Speaker 2: left mine out and they still seem to be alive.

1518
01:16:28,053 --> 01:16:30,053
Speaker 2: They still they're still doing. I've got some straw, but

1519
01:16:30,093 --> 01:16:31,693
Speaker 2: the straw is kind of critical. I probably should have

1520
01:16:31,733 --> 01:16:34,253
Speaker 2: had straw down earlier to be perfectly, but the straws

1521
01:16:34,573 --> 01:16:36,253
Speaker 2: quite quite critical for the frosty areas.

1522
01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:39,733
Speaker 8: Right there are the straws important to actually keep them

1523
01:16:39,773 --> 01:16:41,453
Speaker 8: developing fruit often.

1524
01:16:42,933 --> 01:16:43,253
Speaker 3: Soil.

1525
01:16:43,533 --> 01:16:46,933
Speaker 8: That's number one, of course. Yeah, no, that's absolutely that's correct.

1526
01:16:46,973 --> 01:16:48,933
Speaker 8: You've got it right. But the other thing you could

1527
01:16:49,093 --> 01:16:51,813
Speaker 8: could have could have done is leave them in the ground,

1528
01:16:52,053 --> 01:16:55,413
Speaker 8: but take the runners off, and those runners, if you

1529
01:16:55,453 --> 01:16:58,253
Speaker 8: plant those further up, will become new plants.

1530
01:16:58,293 --> 01:16:59,773
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, that's great.

1531
01:16:59,893 --> 01:17:01,013
Speaker 8: So that's another way of doing it.

1532
01:17:02,573 --> 01:17:02,813
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1533
01:17:03,333 --> 01:17:05,333
Speaker 8: Ex So next year we're extraally and I most really

1534
01:17:05,453 --> 01:17:08,493
Speaker 8: put a note in my die. And then there is

1535
01:17:08,533 --> 01:17:11,173
Speaker 8: this thing called rubib. Now I don't mind rubab. I

1536
01:17:11,253 --> 01:17:13,933
Speaker 8: like it with my with all my stuff, the crumbles

1537
01:17:13,973 --> 01:17:15,893
Speaker 8: and the fruity bits for breakfast and all that sort

1538
01:17:15,893 --> 01:17:19,093
Speaker 8: of stuff. And but here you go, these things are

1539
01:17:19,133 --> 01:17:21,933
Speaker 8: actually very tolerant of a bit of frost. They don't

1540
01:17:21,973 --> 01:17:24,293
Speaker 8: mind a bit of frost. In fact, I saw them

1541
01:17:24,333 --> 01:17:28,093
Speaker 8: in Mongolia in the desert where the intertime it's women.

1542
01:17:28,133 --> 01:17:31,733
Speaker 8: It's twenty oh yeah, it's cool. Actually I also find

1543
01:17:31,773 --> 01:17:32,493
Speaker 8: weather there.

1544
01:17:33,253 --> 01:17:34,933
Speaker 6: You made you there, yep.

1545
01:17:35,493 --> 01:17:39,693
Speaker 8: After non New Zealand variety, but the Gondwana variety, the

1546
01:17:39,733 --> 01:17:45,493
Speaker 8: god variety. Edwin YESIXA no NPI no please, no, no,

1547
01:17:45,493 --> 01:17:48,453
Speaker 8: no anyway, but that's the other thing. So good ever,

1548
01:17:48,493 --> 01:17:50,013
Speaker 8: look at that. This is a good time to look

1549
01:17:50,053 --> 01:17:53,733
Speaker 8: after you, RUBYB and you'll get them going, make no mistake.

1550
01:17:53,493 --> 01:17:55,453
Speaker 2: All right, sir, you have a great weekend. We will

1551
01:17:55,453 --> 01:17:58,333
Speaker 2: catch again soon. Rude climb past in the garden for us.

1552
01:17:58,693 --> 01:18:01,133
Speaker 2: After eleven o'clock on News talks HEB, we are going

1553
01:18:01,173 --> 01:18:04,293
Speaker 2: to tell you about an amazing New New Zealand book

1554
01:18:04,453 --> 01:18:08,053
Speaker 2: called The Unlikely Doctor. News is X though it's almost eleven.

1555
01:18:08,133 --> 01:18:10,373
Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tame. It's Saturday morning of this his news

1556
01:18:10,373 --> 01:18:10,973
Speaker 2: talk z be.

1557
01:18:14,733 --> 01:18:18,533
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through

1558
01:18:18,573 --> 01:18:20,173
Speaker 1: the weekend US Talks B.

1559
01:18:43,333 --> 01:18:46,253
Speaker 2: Good morning if you're just turning on the radio this morning.

1560
01:18:46,333 --> 01:18:48,573
Speaker 2: Great to have you with us. Jack Tame in the

1561
01:18:48,613 --> 01:18:51,373
Speaker 2: hot seat today through to twelve o'clock. Hey, you remember,

1562
01:18:52,093 --> 01:18:55,693
Speaker 2: or a few months ago now, we interviewed Alan Bates,

1563
01:18:56,093 --> 01:19:00,853
Speaker 2: he of the sub postmaster scandal fame. You know, the

1564
01:19:00,933 --> 01:19:06,253
Speaker 2: guy who headed up the incredible effort from subpostmasters across

1565
01:19:06,253 --> 01:19:10,093
Speaker 2: the to get some sentilla of justice after they were

1566
01:19:10,093 --> 01:19:13,933
Speaker 2: done wrong by the Post Office and various other organizations.

1567
01:19:14,013 --> 01:19:15,333
Speaker 2: We've got a little bit of an update for you

1568
01:19:15,453 --> 01:19:18,093
Speaker 2: this morning. So one of the sub postmasters who was

1569
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:22,893
Speaker 2: in the amazing BBC drama about it all, Lee Castleton,

1570
01:19:23,373 --> 01:19:26,733
Speaker 2: he is now suing the Post Office and Fujitsu, which

1571
01:19:26,773 --> 01:19:28,893
Speaker 2: you remember was one of the big companies involved with

1572
01:19:28,893 --> 01:19:32,053
Speaker 2: it all, for more than four million pounds in damages.

1573
01:19:32,773 --> 01:19:35,133
Speaker 2: You would recognize Lee Castleton if you've seen this series.

1574
01:19:35,173 --> 01:19:37,373
Speaker 2: He's one of the kind of central subpostmasters and he

1575
01:19:37,413 --> 01:19:40,853
Speaker 2: went through a terrible, terrible time. He had a legal

1576
01:19:40,853 --> 01:19:44,653
Speaker 2: battle with the Post Office that was pursuing him over

1577
01:19:44,853 --> 01:19:49,053
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand pounds that they said had been taken

1578
01:19:49,053 --> 01:19:51,133
Speaker 2: from his branch or was missing from his branch. They

1579
01:19:51,133 --> 01:19:54,213
Speaker 2: blamed him. It was two thousand and seven. He had

1580
01:19:54,293 --> 01:19:56,693
Speaker 2: legal insurance at the time, so he had some kind

1581
01:19:56,693 --> 01:20:00,133
Speaker 2: of legal cover at first, but that quickly ran out

1582
01:20:00,613 --> 01:20:03,213
Speaker 2: and he ended up representing himself in court and was

1583
01:20:03,293 --> 01:20:06,053
Speaker 2: landed with a bill for three hundred and twenty one

1584
01:20:06,973 --> 01:20:09,773
Speaker 2: pounds in legal costs. He couldn't pay it, of course,

1585
01:20:09,853 --> 01:20:12,613
Speaker 2: in the end he had to declare bankruptcy. It was

1586
01:20:12,733 --> 01:20:15,213
Speaker 2: the only civil claim though that the Post Office brought

1587
01:20:15,333 --> 01:20:18,573
Speaker 2: against a subpostmaster, and so it was quite a high

1588
01:20:18,573 --> 01:20:23,213
Speaker 2: profile case. He had just an appalling time for years

1589
01:20:23,213 --> 01:20:25,533
Speaker 2: and years and years. But then, of course once the

1590
01:20:25,573 --> 01:20:29,453
Speaker 2: truth came out, Lee was one of many subpostmasters who said,

1591
01:20:29,493 --> 01:20:33,133
Speaker 2: you know what, actually I want more than just an apology.

1592
01:20:33,373 --> 01:20:36,333
Speaker 2: I want justice and I want damages. And so he

1593
01:20:36,413 --> 01:20:40,253
Speaker 2: is now suing the Post Office and suing Fujitsu for

1594
01:20:40,373 --> 01:20:42,053
Speaker 2: more than four million pounds. So we're going to make

1595
01:20:42,053 --> 01:20:43,573
Speaker 2: sure we keep you up to speed with that because

1596
01:20:43,573 --> 01:20:46,013
Speaker 2: it really is just an incredible story and kind of

1597
01:20:46,013 --> 01:20:48,653
Speaker 2: an ultimate David versus Goliath story. So we're very much

1598
01:20:48,693 --> 01:20:52,613
Speaker 2: on team Lee in this instance. Before Midday on News

1599
01:20:52,653 --> 01:20:54,413
Speaker 2: Talks B, we're going to turn back the hands of

1600
01:20:54,453 --> 01:20:57,653
Speaker 2: time back to two thousand and five, twenty years ago.

1601
01:20:57,693 --> 01:20:59,373
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can remember where you were,

1602
01:20:59,413 --> 01:21:01,533
Speaker 2: but there's a very good chance you're going to remember

1603
01:21:01,573 --> 01:21:04,733
Speaker 2: what you were listening to for whatever reason. Two thousand

1604
01:21:04,773 --> 01:21:07,053
Speaker 2: and five was kind of a stalar year in terms

1605
01:21:07,093 --> 01:21:10,253
Speaker 2: of amazing music that was released. And our music reviewer

1606
01:21:10,333 --> 01:21:13,413
Speaker 2: has gone through her favorite picks from two thousand and

1607
01:21:13,453 --> 01:21:15,773
Speaker 2: five because twenty years on, it turns out a lot

1608
01:21:15,813 --> 01:21:18,853
Speaker 2: of the artists who are producing chart toppers in two

1609
01:21:18,893 --> 01:21:22,893
Speaker 2: thousand and five are now touring the world with anniversary tours.

1610
01:21:22,933 --> 01:21:26,013
Speaker 2: So she's got her top picks for us before midday.

1611
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:29,493
Speaker 2: Right now, though it is ten past eleven, Jack Team,

1612
01:21:29,693 --> 01:21:32,333
Speaker 2: and we're talking sustainability on news talks. He'd b this

1613
01:21:32,373 --> 01:21:34,933
Speaker 2: morning as we do at this time every week. Evie

1614
01:21:35,013 --> 01:21:38,733
Speaker 2: Kemp is in with us this morning, counter ev Kyoto Jack.

1615
01:21:39,493 --> 01:21:41,693
Speaker 2: Winter I can feel a little bit drab, to say

1616
01:21:41,733 --> 01:21:44,373
Speaker 2: the least, and we often end up kind of reflecting

1617
01:21:44,413 --> 01:21:47,373
Speaker 2: that feeling in what we wear over winter. I mean,

1618
01:21:47,453 --> 01:21:50,293
Speaker 2: I'm a real fashionist. Eve One knows that. But just

1619
01:21:50,293 --> 01:21:53,533
Speaker 2: to break things up, I'm wearing particularly drab colors this morning,

1620
01:21:53,573 --> 01:21:56,653
Speaker 2: black black, black, dark green and black. So there you go.

1621
01:21:56,733 --> 01:21:59,653
Speaker 2: But you've got some tips this morning on some styling tips,

1622
01:21:59,653 --> 01:22:02,733
Speaker 2: some sustainable styling tips on zujing things up a little

1623
01:22:02,733 --> 01:22:03,253
Speaker 2: bit over.

1624
01:22:03,093 --> 01:22:07,093
Speaker 22: Winter, I do, and I'm your opposite this morning, I'm

1625
01:22:07,133 --> 01:22:11,293
Speaker 22: wearing a very brightly colored padded jacket and pink dress

1626
01:22:11,373 --> 01:22:12,253
Speaker 22: and red.

1627
01:22:12,133 --> 01:22:13,733
Speaker 3: Tights, So very good.

1628
01:22:13,933 --> 01:22:16,813
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, it's keeping warm, well, I mean keep

1629
01:22:16,813 --> 01:22:18,973
Speaker 2: you warm, but also maybe bringing a little bit of

1630
01:22:19,453 --> 01:22:24,093
Speaker 2: a little bit of brightness and otherwise exactly.

1631
01:22:23,053 --> 01:22:25,813
Speaker 22: Yes, yeah, I mean we know we have we have

1632
01:22:25,933 --> 01:22:29,813
Speaker 22: the issue with shorter days, darker days, and generally just

1633
01:22:29,813 --> 01:22:31,893
Speaker 22: feeling a bit down, and it's just so nice to

1634
01:22:32,013 --> 01:22:34,533
Speaker 22: use your winter wardrobe to inject a bit of personality

1635
01:22:34,573 --> 01:22:37,013
Speaker 22: and life like, not just for yourself, actually just walking

1636
01:22:37,053 --> 01:22:40,573
Speaker 22: around when you see someone wearing a lovely bright jumper

1637
01:22:40,853 --> 01:22:44,133
Speaker 22: or hat or coat, it just does boost your mood.

1638
01:22:44,333 --> 01:22:47,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, totally. So the most sustainable way to do

1639
01:22:47,253 --> 01:22:49,733
Speaker 2: things is obviously to use what you've already got. What

1640
01:22:49,893 --> 01:22:55,293
Speaker 2: are some of your top tips on utilizing and maximizing

1641
01:22:55,293 --> 01:22:56,973
Speaker 2: stuff you've already got in your wardrobe?

1642
01:22:57,373 --> 01:23:01,573
Speaker 22: Yeah, well, I think it's about firstly layering things that

1643
01:23:01,773 --> 01:23:05,093
Speaker 22: there's there's things you can actually wear all year round,

1644
01:23:05,133 --> 01:23:07,493
Speaker 22: and especially in a lot of row. You know, our

1645
01:23:07,493 --> 01:23:10,333
Speaker 22: wea there isn't two extremes, so we can put some

1646
01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:13,853
Speaker 22: good Marino layers on underneath or on top. I like

1647
01:23:13,893 --> 01:23:15,933
Speaker 22: to wear summer dresses, but I might wear a big

1648
01:23:16,013 --> 01:23:18,533
Speaker 22: chunky sweater over the top and use it more like

1649
01:23:18,573 --> 01:23:20,893
Speaker 22: a skirt. That might not be something that's so much

1650
01:23:21,053 --> 01:23:22,093
Speaker 22: that you would do jack, but.

1651
01:23:24,213 --> 01:23:27,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.

1652
01:23:27,253 --> 01:23:30,933
Speaker 22: Never know, you no, absolutely not. And also then just

1653
01:23:30,973 --> 01:23:32,693
Speaker 22: sort of working with what you've got in terms of

1654
01:23:32,853 --> 01:23:35,373
Speaker 22: having a bit of an audit and seeing is this

1655
01:23:35,413 --> 01:23:38,173
Speaker 22: stuff that you could have altered to fit better or

1656
01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:41,493
Speaker 22: things that you could repair, Especially when it comes to footwear,

1657
01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:45,533
Speaker 22: you know, if you've got quality boots and shoes, it

1658
01:23:45,613 --> 01:23:48,173
Speaker 22: actually really is worth going and getting them fixed or

1659
01:23:48,413 --> 01:23:50,933
Speaker 22: almost having a little tune up before winter, and they'll

1660
01:23:50,933 --> 01:23:52,653
Speaker 22: see you through and then they'll see you through for

1661
01:23:52,693 --> 01:23:53,493
Speaker 22: another few years.

1662
01:23:53,493 --> 01:23:57,733
Speaker 2: It's also just it's just deeply satisfying. There's something about

1663
01:23:57,773 --> 01:24:00,213
Speaker 2: doing that. Like even like I had some shoes I

1664
01:24:00,253 --> 01:24:01,653
Speaker 2: thought were getting a bit old and tatty, and then

1665
01:24:01,653 --> 01:24:03,773
Speaker 2: I just wind of got them re sold and it

1666
01:24:03,893 --> 01:24:06,093
Speaker 2: just obviously made a difference in terms of the shoe.

1667
01:24:06,413 --> 01:24:07,973
Speaker 2: So I felt so virtuous.

1668
01:24:08,053 --> 01:24:08,213
Speaker 11: You know.

1669
01:24:09,093 --> 01:24:12,813
Speaker 22: I know, I'm laughing because I'm like, I'm exactly the same.

1670
01:24:12,853 --> 01:24:15,493
Speaker 22: I'm almost like I want to walk around and say like, yes,

1671
01:24:15,613 --> 01:24:17,413
Speaker 22: that's right, I did get these shoes resource.

1672
01:24:17,653 --> 01:24:18,013
Speaker 5: Yeah right.

1673
01:24:18,373 --> 01:24:20,893
Speaker 2: So what kinds of pieces do you reckon probably have

1674
01:24:20,973 --> 01:24:22,533
Speaker 2: the most kind of longevity.

1675
01:24:23,453 --> 01:24:27,373
Speaker 22: Well, I think it's like things like coats, shoes, boots,

1676
01:24:27,853 --> 01:24:30,853
Speaker 22: really good quality netwear as well, those kind of things.

1677
01:24:30,893 --> 01:24:33,933
Speaker 22: They're not necessarily so much as sort of a trend

1678
01:24:34,013 --> 01:24:36,893
Speaker 22: based item. They're things that you can really you can

1679
01:24:36,893 --> 01:24:40,453
Speaker 22: express your personality, but they will last years and years

1680
01:24:40,493 --> 01:24:42,453
Speaker 22: and years decades even.

1681
01:24:42,413 --> 01:24:46,173
Speaker 2: Okay, hot fashion take here. I reckon knitwear has just

1682
01:24:46,213 --> 01:24:48,373
Speaker 2: come back in the biggest way. And this is not

1683
01:24:48,413 --> 01:24:50,693
Speaker 2: anything particularly new, Like I'd say there's been around for

1684
01:24:50,733 --> 01:24:54,053
Speaker 2: at least five years, maybe longer, but I reckon there's

1685
01:24:54,093 --> 01:24:56,013
Speaker 2: a little window there when itwear wasn't very cool and

1686
01:24:56,053 --> 01:24:58,173
Speaker 2: it's just come back, and like knitwear is properly cool,

1687
01:24:58,813 --> 01:24:59,013
Speaker 2: is it?

1688
01:24:59,053 --> 01:25:00,093
Speaker 16: Oh it's so cool?

1689
01:25:00,213 --> 01:25:00,933
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1690
01:25:01,013 --> 01:25:04,013
Speaker 22: Yeah, No, you're so right, and you're right with the

1691
01:25:04,053 --> 01:25:06,533
Speaker 22: timeline as well. But I don't think it's going away.

1692
01:25:06,853 --> 01:25:11,013
Speaker 22: And there's all these amazing ness is doing really creative things,

1693
01:25:11,093 --> 01:25:13,453
Speaker 22: and of course, you know, wool is in our DNA

1694
01:25:13,573 --> 01:25:17,213
Speaker 22: here in New Zealand, so it's just a really cool

1695
01:25:17,253 --> 01:25:21,813
Speaker 22: way to keep warm. But it's also something that you know,

1696
01:25:21,933 --> 01:25:24,133
Speaker 22: you could actually get a bit crafty yourself. You know,

1697
01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:25,813
Speaker 22: it's kind of like chop wood. It will keep you

1698
01:25:25,853 --> 01:25:27,973
Speaker 22: warm twice or whatever they're saying is kind of the

1699
01:25:28,013 --> 01:25:30,733
Speaker 22: same if you you pick up the needles and you

1700
01:25:30,813 --> 01:25:32,413
Speaker 22: get yourself a scarf or something.

1701
01:25:32,453 --> 01:25:34,453
Speaker 2: You know, yourself, if.

1702
01:25:34,413 --> 01:25:35,853
Speaker 22: You thought you were virtuous getting your shoes.

1703
01:25:37,573 --> 01:25:40,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you do have to go shopping, op

1704
01:25:40,453 --> 01:25:41,693
Speaker 2: shops are a good place to start.

1705
01:25:42,933 --> 01:25:45,693
Speaker 22: Shops are amazing, you know, like there's just so much

1706
01:25:45,733 --> 01:25:49,133
Speaker 22: good clothing already out there, and if you just sort

1707
01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:51,293
Speaker 22: of shop with a bit of an eye to what

1708
01:25:51,373 --> 01:25:54,173
Speaker 22: will really last and what you'll really enjoy, and also

1709
01:25:54,293 --> 01:25:58,253
Speaker 22: perhaps even what you could repair or refurbish, then you

1710
01:25:58,293 --> 01:26:01,173
Speaker 22: can find some real gems, especially on items that otherwise

1711
01:26:01,173 --> 01:26:02,613
Speaker 22: would be really really expensive.

1712
01:26:02,613 --> 01:26:04,413
Speaker 2: Are there other options I've seeking hand shopping.

1713
01:26:05,373 --> 01:26:06,493
Speaker 16: Oh, there's so many op.

1714
01:26:07,933 --> 01:26:11,453
Speaker 22: There is online here, We've got trade Meet, We've got

1715
01:26:11,493 --> 01:26:16,853
Speaker 22: designer wardrobe, there's great consignment stores you sell more designer items,

1716
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:20,213
Speaker 22: places like recycled Boutique or Perl Call. We have Encore

1717
01:26:20,373 --> 01:26:24,173
Speaker 22: and Tatties. And then also even just sort of local

1718
01:26:24,253 --> 01:26:26,133
Speaker 22: markets or swap events stuff like that.

1719
01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:29,173
Speaker 2: Yeahs are a bit of a thing now they've become.

1720
01:26:28,973 --> 01:26:30,693
Speaker 22: A Yeah, you just have to be willing to get

1721
01:26:30,733 --> 01:26:31,933
Speaker 22: rid of some things at the same time.

1722
01:26:32,013 --> 01:26:34,173
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, No, my wife is a big fan of,

1723
01:26:34,253 --> 01:26:36,613
Speaker 2: like of popping onto design of wardrobe and seeing what's

1724
01:26:36,653 --> 01:26:40,813
Speaker 2: going and yeah, so it's obviously good and besides the

1725
01:26:41,013 --> 01:26:46,013
Speaker 2: like the bold and beautiful you reckon that. One of

1726
01:26:46,053 --> 01:26:48,653
Speaker 2: the keys to seeking hand shopping is looking for those

1727
01:26:48,693 --> 01:26:51,133
Speaker 2: bits that actually might need a little bit of work,

1728
01:26:51,173 --> 01:26:52,973
Speaker 2: but something manageable and you can turn it into a

1729
01:26:52,973 --> 01:26:53,253
Speaker 2: bit of.

1730
01:26:53,213 --> 01:26:56,853
Speaker 22: Magic exactly, like stuff like a bobbled sweater. But if

1731
01:26:56,853 --> 01:27:00,693
Speaker 22: it's beautiful one hundredercent wool, you know, get it, debobble

1732
01:27:00,733 --> 01:27:04,053
Speaker 22: it and give it a nice wash and some shampool

1733
01:27:04,133 --> 01:27:07,253
Speaker 22: wool soap and it will just come up like new. Yeah,

1734
01:27:07,453 --> 01:27:10,493
Speaker 22: you know, things like that, things that will that just

1735
01:27:10,533 --> 01:27:12,773
Speaker 22: need a little bit of care. But you look for

1736
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:15,013
Speaker 22: quality and natural materials generally.

1737
01:27:15,173 --> 01:27:15,373
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1738
01:27:15,373 --> 01:27:18,573
Speaker 2: Okay, So most sustainable way to do things is not

1739
01:27:18,613 --> 01:27:21,253
Speaker 2: to buy anything seekind most is to go seek in hand.

1740
01:27:21,573 --> 01:27:25,013
Speaker 2: If you do have to buy something brand new, how

1741
01:27:25,053 --> 01:27:28,213
Speaker 2: can you stay kind of mindful of shopping sustainably.

1742
01:27:29,893 --> 01:27:32,333
Speaker 22: Well, we do have a lot of great brands here

1743
01:27:32,373 --> 01:27:37,573
Speaker 22: in New Zealand, brands like Koto Mile, people who are

1744
01:27:37,573 --> 01:27:42,933
Speaker 22: producing great sustainable clothing that will really stand the test

1745
01:27:42,973 --> 01:27:45,773
Speaker 22: at a time. And the nice thing about when you're

1746
01:27:45,773 --> 01:27:48,493
Speaker 22: buying quality is not just for yourself, but actually if

1747
01:27:48,533 --> 01:27:51,693
Speaker 22: you do decide, you know, maybe you change size or

1748
01:27:51,733 --> 01:27:54,533
Speaker 22: your style changes, but because it's quality, you could even

1749
01:27:54,573 --> 01:27:57,533
Speaker 22: on sal it later, so it doesn't then go to landfill.

1750
01:27:57,573 --> 01:27:59,253
Speaker 22: It it continues to live a life.

1751
01:27:59,333 --> 01:28:01,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh fantastic. Hey, thank you so much.

1752
01:28:01,453 --> 01:28:01,653
Speaker 5: Ev.

1753
01:28:01,813 --> 01:28:03,933
Speaker 2: We really appreciate your time this morning. Where can people

1754
01:28:03,933 --> 01:28:05,493
Speaker 2: find you on the social media channels?

1755
01:28:06,093 --> 01:28:09,933
Speaker 22: I am on Instagram mostly and I'm there at ev

1756
01:28:10,093 --> 01:28:12,493
Speaker 22: Kemp and my website is evkemp dot com.

1757
01:28:12,533 --> 01:28:14,573
Speaker 2: Easy. Hey, thank you so much. That is Ev Kemp

1758
01:28:15,013 --> 01:28:18,013
Speaker 2: with her sustainability tips for us for getting through the

1759
01:28:18,093 --> 01:28:22,893
Speaker 2: dreariest and drudgerist, drudgist drudgiest parts of winter. I got

1760
01:28:22,893 --> 01:28:25,693
Speaker 2: there ninety two. If you want to send us the

1761
01:28:25,693 --> 01:28:28,173
Speaker 2: message this morning, our travel correspondents in a couple of minutes,

1762
01:28:28,173 --> 01:28:29,573
Speaker 2: I've just got to share this text with you though.

1763
01:28:29,613 --> 01:28:32,773
Speaker 2: It came through from Mark during the during the news

1764
01:28:32,773 --> 01:28:35,413
Speaker 2: bullets and so before eleven o'clock. We were talking about

1765
01:28:35,853 --> 01:28:38,173
Speaker 2: disslocating your shoulder, and I was explaining how my brother

1766
01:28:38,213 --> 01:28:40,813
Speaker 2: has had the misfortune not only of dessicating his shoulder

1767
01:28:40,973 --> 01:28:44,053
Speaker 2: on several occasions, but of dissiccating it while going for

1768
01:28:44,093 --> 01:28:47,533
Speaker 2: a run when he was swooped by a magpie and

1769
01:28:47,573 --> 01:28:50,613
Speaker 2: so he reflexively raised his arm in the air to

1770
01:28:50,653 --> 01:28:53,333
Speaker 2: protect himself from the magpie. Turns out a very similar

1771
01:28:53,333 --> 01:28:55,693
Speaker 2: thing happened to Mark. Good morning Jack. I desicated my

1772
01:28:55,773 --> 01:28:58,613
Speaker 2: squat out my shoulder when I fell backwards playing squash.

1773
01:28:58,973 --> 01:29:02,133
Speaker 2: Next time, though, I dissicated it when attacked by seagulls

1774
01:29:02,173 --> 01:29:05,293
Speaker 2: went out for a run in Parwanui. Honestly, Mark, you

1775
01:29:05,333 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 2: and my brother could form a little it is. I

1776
01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:09,893
Speaker 2: hope you can see the funny side of things, but

1777
01:29:09,933 --> 01:29:12,613
Speaker 2: it is really painful from all accounts. So I hope

1778
01:29:12,653 --> 01:29:16,173
Speaker 2: that your shoulder has managed to remain and socket in

1779
01:29:16,253 --> 01:29:18,973
Speaker 2: the time since right now, at seventeen past eleven on

1780
01:29:19,133 --> 01:29:20,013
Speaker 2: news Talks, he'd be.

1781
01:29:20,613 --> 01:29:24,253
Speaker 3: Travel with Wendy Woo Tours. Where the World is yours book?

1782
01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:27,373
Speaker 2: Now, Mike Gord, he's our travel corresponding. He's here this morning.

1783
01:29:27,373 --> 01:29:29,533
Speaker 7: Hey, Mike, good morning Jack.

1784
01:29:29,533 --> 01:29:31,493
Speaker 23: Are you going to be coming live from Alaska this

1785
01:29:31,573 --> 01:29:32,213
Speaker 23: time next week.

1786
01:29:32,413 --> 01:29:35,213
Speaker 2: I know, how amazing. I love how So you're just

1787
01:29:35,293 --> 01:29:38,933
Speaker 2: referencing Donald Trump and his impending meeting with Vladimir Putin.

1788
01:29:39,613 --> 01:29:43,493
Speaker 2: Interesting that they're meeting in Alaska. Yeah, I mean it's

1789
01:29:43,573 --> 01:29:47,253
Speaker 2: kind of like halfway for both of them.

1790
01:29:47,653 --> 01:29:47,853
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1791
01:29:47,853 --> 01:29:50,373
Speaker 2: Actually I wonder what the time? What the flight time

1792
01:29:50,413 --> 01:29:53,533
Speaker 2: from Moscow to Alaska is? Anyway? Have you been to

1793
01:29:53,533 --> 01:29:54,693
Speaker 2: Alaska and you've been to Alaska?

1794
01:29:55,933 --> 01:29:56,333
Speaker 6: I have.

1795
01:29:56,493 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 23: I'd love to go and do more. I haven't been

1796
01:29:58,253 --> 01:30:00,373
Speaker 23: to Anchorage and I haven't done What did you do

1797
01:30:00,373 --> 01:30:03,373
Speaker 23: a few years ago? Was it the dog's sweating or something?

1798
01:30:03,453 --> 01:30:06,853
Speaker 2: I covered the idea to rod in Alaska. There's a

1799
01:30:06,893 --> 01:30:11,413
Speaker 2: New Zealand team who were in the iditod sled race.

1800
01:30:11,573 --> 01:30:14,053
Speaker 2: And actually I did go dogs leading in Alaska, which

1801
01:30:14,173 --> 01:30:16,373
Speaker 2: was very cool. You have to say the thing about

1802
01:30:16,413 --> 01:30:19,453
Speaker 2: dog sleating not a very comfortable way of traveling.

1803
01:30:19,653 --> 01:30:22,053
Speaker 7: It would be my how are we could imagine?

1804
01:30:22,133 --> 01:30:22,293
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1805
01:30:22,373 --> 01:30:26,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but but amazing. And actually, the thing I

1806
01:30:26,093 --> 01:30:28,333
Speaker 2: remember most about Anchorage, apart from it feeling like a

1807
01:30:28,373 --> 01:30:35,173
Speaker 2: big mining town, is I had a an incredible reindeer

1808
01:30:35,493 --> 01:30:39,453
Speaker 2: breakfast burrito or nice. I still think about that thing.

1809
01:30:39,733 --> 01:30:42,853
Speaker 2: It was like three days worth of calories and it

1810
01:30:43,013 --> 01:30:46,733
Speaker 2: was just it was amazing. I was cold, and I've

1811
01:30:46,773 --> 01:30:48,893
Speaker 2: been out filming all night and I finally made my

1812
01:30:48,973 --> 01:30:50,933
Speaker 2: way back to this place and made my way back

1813
01:30:50,973 --> 01:30:54,293
Speaker 2: to a diner and had like a raindeer reindeer breakfast burrito,

1814
01:30:54,373 --> 01:30:55,333
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, this is.

1815
01:30:56,053 --> 01:31:01,333
Speaker 7: Yeah, I highly recommend Dancer. Yes, Britson blazon the works.

1816
01:31:02,133 --> 01:31:04,933
Speaker 2: I suspect that I suspect that Vladimir won't be won't

1817
01:31:04,933 --> 01:31:09,213
Speaker 2: be indulging in a breakfast read. Who knows, Yeah, who knows. Hey, Anyway,

1818
01:31:09,653 --> 01:31:13,573
Speaker 2: we're turning our attention to another top spot this morning.

1819
01:31:13,733 --> 01:31:16,173
Speaker 2: You've got your top treats and Treasures in Edinburgh, and

1820
01:31:16,333 --> 01:31:20,093
Speaker 2: it is one of those special cities loaded with intrigue

1821
01:31:20,133 --> 01:31:21,613
Speaker 2: no matter how many times you visit.

1822
01:31:21,733 --> 01:31:26,693
Speaker 23: Right, totally, Jack, It's beauty is rugged, not shiny. I

1823
01:31:26,773 --> 01:31:29,413
Speaker 23: think that's part of the attraction. It's a brooding sort

1824
01:31:29,413 --> 01:31:33,373
Speaker 23: of place, imposing. I reckon Edinburgh is the movie set

1825
01:31:33,573 --> 01:31:36,773
Speaker 23: of your dreams, and it's one of those cities where

1826
01:31:37,333 --> 01:31:42,773
Speaker 23: that oft described phrase hidden gems really is so true.

1827
01:31:42,813 --> 01:31:46,733
Speaker 23: They're just everywhere, so many stories spilling forth from the cobbles.

1828
01:31:46,773 --> 01:31:49,253
Speaker 7: So what I love about Edinburgh, and I've been there

1829
01:31:49,253 --> 01:31:50,173
Speaker 7: a few times since.

1830
01:31:50,013 --> 01:31:53,573
Speaker 23: I always come away with a few more surprises, you know,

1831
01:31:53,733 --> 01:31:56,573
Speaker 23: as if I have just sampled a few more secrets,

1832
01:31:56,613 --> 01:31:58,693
Speaker 23: and it's just one of those cities that you can

1833
01:31:58,893 --> 01:32:01,013
Speaker 23: just nibble on time and time again.

1834
01:32:01,133 --> 01:32:03,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. There's quite a lot of dark history

1835
01:32:03,533 --> 01:32:04,293
Speaker 2: in the city though.

1836
01:32:05,333 --> 01:32:06,373
Speaker 7: Oh man, so much.

1837
01:32:06,653 --> 01:32:08,493
Speaker 23: And I reckon one of the biggest stains would have

1838
01:32:08,613 --> 01:32:12,693
Speaker 23: to be Edinburgh's past hysteria for witch hunting. So if

1839
01:32:12,813 --> 01:32:16,373
Speaker 23: you find yourself waiting to get into Edinburgh Castle, you'll

1840
01:32:16,413 --> 01:32:19,973
Speaker 23: be standing on Castle Esplanard where the military tattoo is

1841
01:32:20,013 --> 01:32:24,453
Speaker 23: held right now actually every August, and on that esplanade

1842
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:28,293
Speaker 23: check out witches. Well, so this is like this big

1843
01:32:28,853 --> 01:32:32,773
Speaker 23: cast iron fountain and it's on the site of where

1844
01:32:33,333 --> 01:32:36,773
Speaker 23: they reckon. Somewhere between three hundred and five hundred women

1845
01:32:37,293 --> 01:32:41,413
Speaker 23: were burnt at the stake on that exact site. So yeah,

1846
01:32:41,493 --> 01:32:43,213
Speaker 23: back in the day, of course, they were first taken

1847
01:32:43,253 --> 01:32:46,053
Speaker 23: to the lake and if they didn't drown, they were

1848
01:32:46,133 --> 01:32:50,893
Speaker 23: determined miraculous, so they must be a witch. So then

1849
01:32:50,893 --> 01:32:53,213
Speaker 23: they were taken to Castle Esplanade and burnt to death.

1850
01:32:53,453 --> 01:32:57,773
Speaker 2: Yes, so there's definitely there are a few flaws in

1851
01:32:57,853 --> 01:33:00,253
Speaker 2: that testing system around there, to say the least, but

1852
01:33:00,293 --> 01:33:03,253
Speaker 2: it's a huge three to five hundred. I didn't realize that. Yeah,

1853
01:33:03,693 --> 01:33:07,453
Speaker 2: it was that many. A lot of Old Edinburgh's now underground, right,

1854
01:33:07,533 --> 01:33:08,853
Speaker 2: can you go subterranean?

1855
01:33:09,893 --> 01:33:11,933
Speaker 23: Yes, I was thinking of you in the city rail

1856
01:33:12,013 --> 01:33:15,853
Speaker 23: link Jack, and I'm with you, subterranean rocks. The old

1857
01:33:15,933 --> 01:33:20,373
Speaker 23: town in Edinburgh is stacked like a pancake, literal.

1858
01:33:20,253 --> 01:33:22,093
Speaker 7: Layers upon layers of civilization.

1859
01:33:22,213 --> 01:33:25,733
Speaker 23: So one of the really cool encounters is to venture

1860
01:33:25,853 --> 01:33:30,653
Speaker 23: underground into Mary King's clothes. This has just got so

1861
01:33:30,893 --> 01:33:35,093
Speaker 23: much history, this little pocket of underground Edinburgh. The thing

1862
01:33:35,173 --> 01:33:37,813
Speaker 23: that blew me away is they reckon the locals that

1863
01:33:37,973 --> 01:33:41,293
Speaker 23: this was one of the worst places to be in

1864
01:33:41,373 --> 01:33:45,813
Speaker 23: the seventeenth century when the Bubonic plague swept through, because

1865
01:33:45,893 --> 01:33:50,613
Speaker 23: virtually everyone died in Mary King's clothes. Those that survived

1866
01:33:51,333 --> 01:33:55,333
Speaker 23: were treated by a plague doctor called George ray and Man.

1867
01:33:55,573 --> 01:33:59,333
Speaker 23: He would slice off the top of the victim's saw

1868
01:33:59,893 --> 01:34:02,253
Speaker 23: and then jam a red hot poker into the wound

1869
01:34:02,293 --> 01:34:07,373
Speaker 23: to cauter horize it. So it was a really aging technique,

1870
01:34:07,413 --> 01:34:11,013
Speaker 23: but it actually proved to save people's lives. So that's

1871
01:34:11,093 --> 01:34:14,693
Speaker 23: the sort of anecdotes you will glean when you're down under.

1872
01:34:16,013 --> 01:34:17,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to think about that too much.

1873
01:34:18,053 --> 01:34:20,453
Speaker 2: So do you go for the best city views.

1874
01:34:21,733 --> 01:34:24,493
Speaker 23: This is a really good insider's tip that I got

1875
01:34:24,533 --> 01:34:27,693
Speaker 23: off a local. So chances are you'll strike some grizzle

1876
01:34:27,893 --> 01:34:31,893
Speaker 23: todays weatherwise in Edinburgh. Good place to go the National

1877
01:34:31,973 --> 01:34:35,053
Speaker 23: Museum of Scotland. Say hello to Dolly the Sheep and friends.

1878
01:34:35,573 --> 01:34:39,053
Speaker 23: But then take the lift to the seventh floor of

1879
01:34:39,133 --> 01:34:43,133
Speaker 23: the museum because that opens out onto the rooftop terrace.

1880
01:34:43,573 --> 01:34:47,013
Speaker 23: And I mean, Edinburgh's got some great viewpoints, right, But

1881
01:34:47,173 --> 01:34:49,653
Speaker 23: to be slap bang in the middle of the old

1882
01:34:49,733 --> 01:34:54,253
Speaker 23: town seven stories up with that starling three point sixty

1883
01:34:54,373 --> 01:34:57,973
Speaker 23: vantage point. Man, it's got the medieval rooftops, the bustle

1884
01:34:58,013 --> 01:35:01,893
Speaker 23: below you can see Arthur's seat backdropping the whole city.

1885
01:35:02,013 --> 01:35:03,573
Speaker 7: It really is a special spot.

1886
01:35:03,933 --> 01:35:06,213
Speaker 2: Good So the new town is home to all of

1887
01:35:06,453 --> 01:35:08,733
Speaker 2: the Georgian architecture. A where's the best spot?

1888
01:35:09,013 --> 01:35:14,413
Speaker 23: Yes, Charlotte Square is stunning, so this is a masterpiece

1889
01:35:14,453 --> 01:35:18,413
Speaker 23: in historic urban planning with all those Georgian townhouses around

1890
01:35:18,453 --> 01:35:21,693
Speaker 23: the square. But it's sort of like a little microcosm

1891
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:25,173
Speaker 23: of Scotland's best and brightest. So back in the day

1892
01:35:25,373 --> 01:35:30,173
Speaker 23: you had Alexander Bell living at number fourteen, Lord Lister

1893
01:35:30,493 --> 01:35:32,573
Speaker 23: of Listerine fame at number nine.

1894
01:35:33,293 --> 01:35:33,693
Speaker 7: JM.

1895
01:35:33,813 --> 01:35:38,333
Speaker 23: Bowry aka Peter Pan frequently stayed at number seven, and

1896
01:35:38,493 --> 01:35:41,293
Speaker 23: number six is the ten downing Street of Scotland, home

1897
01:35:41,333 --> 01:35:46,213
Speaker 23: to the country's first minister. So Luminary's Hello Charlotte Square

1898
01:35:46,853 --> 01:35:50,693
Speaker 23: is very much like the epitome of living, breathing history

1899
01:35:50,773 --> 01:35:51,373
Speaker 23: in Scotland.

1900
01:35:51,493 --> 01:35:55,213
Speaker 2: Oh yes, the city's got no shortage of historic pubs.

1901
01:35:55,453 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 2: Any top piece you can share.

1902
01:35:57,853 --> 01:35:59,813
Speaker 23: A couple of quick taps. I would go to Deacon

1903
01:35:59,893 --> 01:36:03,013
Speaker 23: Brodie's tavern on the Royal Mile. And I didn't realize this,

1904
01:36:03,173 --> 01:36:08,293
Speaker 23: but Deacon Brody was the inspiration for Robert Loward's Lewis Stevenson's.

1905
01:36:08,133 --> 01:36:08,853
Speaker 7: Jeckel and Height.

1906
01:36:09,453 --> 01:36:13,893
Speaker 23: So Brody was this acclaimed carpenter by day by night,

1907
01:36:14,093 --> 01:36:16,613
Speaker 23: a recidi as to Burglar. He basically broke into all

1908
01:36:16,693 --> 01:36:19,413
Speaker 23: the wealthy houses that had been working on earlier in

1909
01:36:19,453 --> 01:36:23,013
Speaker 23: the day and it just went on for ages. When

1910
01:36:23,053 --> 01:36:26,293
Speaker 23: he was executed, apparently it was one of the most

1911
01:36:27,733 --> 01:36:31,853
Speaker 23: biggest turnouts for an execution in Edinburgh when they decided

1912
01:36:31,933 --> 01:36:33,253
Speaker 23: to knock him on his head.

1913
01:36:33,933 --> 01:36:35,933
Speaker 7: So all that history is told of the pub.

1914
01:36:36,373 --> 01:36:39,693
Speaker 23: And then also on Candlemaker's Row, you've got to check

1915
01:36:39,733 --> 01:36:44,853
Speaker 23: out Grayfire's Bobby's Bar. This is like a shrine to

1916
01:36:45,093 --> 01:36:48,373
Speaker 23: Edinburgh's most famous pooch. So the story goes Jack that

1917
01:36:48,493 --> 01:36:51,453
Speaker 23: this dog stood vigil and slept at his owner's grave

1918
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:57,933
Speaker 23: for fourteen years after his master died, and now he's

1919
01:36:58,133 --> 01:37:02,213
Speaker 23: laid to rest next to his owner's grave in Greyfriars Churchyard,

1920
01:37:02,253 --> 01:37:05,013
Speaker 23: which is very close to the namesake pub. Disney actually

1921
01:37:05,093 --> 01:37:08,253
Speaker 23: made a film about the Bobby, So yeah, that's a

1922
01:37:08,333 --> 01:37:10,093
Speaker 23: great spot for a dram or two.

1923
01:37:10,653 --> 01:37:13,453
Speaker 2: And what's the must do for fans of the royals

1924
01:37:13,533 --> 01:37:14,093
Speaker 2: in Edinburgh.

1925
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Speaker 23: We'll definitely taken on board to her of the yacht Pretannua,

1926
01:37:17,813 --> 01:37:20,733
Speaker 23: which is permanently birthed at Ocean Terminal and Leath.

1927
01:37:21,493 --> 01:37:24,133
Speaker 7: It's access all areas. That's what I think blows people away.

1928
01:37:24,213 --> 01:37:27,573
Speaker 23: The ship was left in situ after it was decommissioned

1929
01:37:27,653 --> 01:37:31,533
Speaker 23: and you can explore every nook and cranny, the state

1930
01:37:31,613 --> 01:37:35,093
Speaker 23: reception rooms, the Queen's bedroom left exactly as they were

1931
01:37:35,653 --> 01:37:38,853
Speaker 23: and I love this. You can even see Princess Margaret's

1932
01:37:38,973 --> 01:37:40,533
Speaker 23: numerous cigarette burns.

1933
01:37:41,013 --> 01:37:42,853
Speaker 7: She was quite careless.

1934
01:37:42,893 --> 01:37:43,413
Speaker 6: I don't think his.

1935
01:37:43,453 --> 01:37:46,053
Speaker 23: Sister would have been very impressed. But there's just another

1936
01:37:46,173 --> 01:37:47,453
Speaker 23: stirring slice of Edinburgh.

1937
01:37:47,573 --> 01:37:50,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, so good. That sounds amazing. It's been years

1938
01:37:50,733 --> 01:37:52,493
Speaker 2: years since I've been to Edinburgh, but you hit the

1939
01:37:52,573 --> 01:37:53,973
Speaker 2: nail on the head. It feels like one of those

1940
01:37:54,013 --> 01:37:55,773
Speaker 2: cities you can go back to time and time age.

1941
01:37:55,853 --> 01:37:55,973
Speaker 16: Na.

1942
01:37:56,733 --> 01:37:59,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sounds so good. Thanks Mike. All of Mike's

1943
01:38:00,053 --> 01:38:03,053
Speaker 2: treats and treasures in Edinburgh will be up on the

1944
01:38:03,133 --> 01:38:05,733
Speaker 2: news talk c'd be website before midday. We are looking

1945
01:38:05,773 --> 01:38:08,173
Speaker 2: at some of the top albums from twenty years ago.

1946
01:38:08,613 --> 01:38:11,253
Speaker 2: Feeling a little bit nostalgic on news stork Zibbe this morning.

1947
01:38:11,333 --> 01:38:13,533
Speaker 2: So our music reviewer has gone and picked out her

1948
01:38:13,733 --> 01:38:16,893
Speaker 2: favorite records from two thousand and five. As well as that,

1949
01:38:17,213 --> 01:38:19,573
Speaker 2: we're going to tell you about this amazing new book.

1950
01:38:19,613 --> 01:38:22,413
Speaker 2: It's called The Unlikely Doctor. It's by a guy called

1951
01:38:22,413 --> 01:38:26,853
Speaker 2: Tim Motti Timoki, and he has had the most extraordinary life, right.

1952
01:38:26,973 --> 01:38:30,053
Speaker 2: He's experienced gang life in prison, but has made his

1953
01:38:30,173 --> 01:38:33,533
Speaker 2: way into being a doctor in his fifties. So our

1954
01:38:33,573 --> 01:38:35,213
Speaker 2: book reviewer is going to tell us a little bit

1955
01:38:35,213 --> 01:38:38,373
Speaker 2: about tim Mouti, Timoki's story and the Unlikely doctor when

1956
01:38:38,413 --> 01:38:40,333
Speaker 2: she joins us very soon. Right now, it has just

1957
01:38:40,413 --> 01:38:41,133
Speaker 2: gone eleven.

1958
01:38:40,893 --> 01:38:48,813
Speaker 1: Thirty, getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

1959
01:38:48,933 --> 01:38:50,693
Speaker 1: Team on News Talks EDB.

1960
01:39:07,733 --> 01:39:09,013
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, hi, Digrass.

1961
01:39:14,413 --> 01:39:17,653
Speaker 2: This is the Kuys, the Chiefs, twenty years old. Every day,

1962
01:39:17,853 --> 01:39:20,493
Speaker 2: I love you less and less. We're gonna look at

1963
01:39:20,533 --> 01:39:22,613
Speaker 2: some of the top albums and top songs from two

1964
01:39:22,653 --> 01:39:25,013
Speaker 2: thousand and five with our music review very shortly right

1965
01:39:25,053 --> 01:39:27,493
Speaker 2: now though twenty seven to twelve after midday. Of course,

1966
01:39:27,573 --> 01:39:29,853
Speaker 2: Jason pine is in for Weekend Sport this weekend and

1967
01:39:29,973 --> 01:39:32,213
Speaker 2: Steve Hanson kicking off the show this afternoon.

1968
01:39:32,293 --> 01:39:34,653
Speaker 24: Piney and d Jack Here's looking forward to getting his

1969
01:39:34,893 --> 01:39:37,453
Speaker 24: unique insight into the big sports story of the week.

1970
01:39:37,573 --> 01:39:40,573
Speaker 24: Richie Moore Wonga is coming home. He will be here

1971
01:39:40,693 --> 01:39:43,773
Speaker 24: midnext year. He'll place some NPC and then be available

1972
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:46,413
Speaker 24: for blit Uslow Cup and of Year tour and then

1973
01:39:46,453 --> 01:39:49,093
Speaker 24: all of twenty twenty seven of course, which includes the

1974
01:39:49,173 --> 01:39:51,293
Speaker 24: Rugby World Cup. So Steve was an All Blacks coach.

1975
01:39:51,333 --> 01:39:54,253
Speaker 24: He's now coaching in Japan. So yeah, because it's a

1976
01:39:54,293 --> 01:39:56,333
Speaker 24: good deal for New Zealand rugby. It's a very good

1977
01:39:56,373 --> 01:39:58,333
Speaker 24: deal for Richie Mwonga from what I can see, he

1978
01:39:58,733 --> 01:40:01,573
Speaker 24: gets the chance to kind of parachute in I guess,

1979
01:40:01,853 --> 01:40:03,453
Speaker 24: play a World Cup and then if he wants to

1980
01:40:03,893 --> 01:40:07,133
Speaker 24: go back to Japan and earn some more YenS. So look,

1981
01:40:07,173 --> 01:40:10,333
Speaker 24: there's a lot of layers to this. How's Boden Barrett feeling.

1982
01:40:10,413 --> 01:40:14,253
Speaker 24: How's Damien McKenzie feeling. How's Richie Mounger himself feeling? Because

1983
01:40:14,653 --> 01:40:16,293
Speaker 24: it feels, as I raised, it's got all his eggs

1984
01:40:16,293 --> 01:40:19,653
Speaker 24: in the basket and the Muwonga basket. Really he's you know,

1985
01:40:20,053 --> 01:40:23,093
Speaker 24: made no secret of the fact that he that that

1986
01:40:23,293 --> 01:40:27,733
Speaker 24: Richie Moonga is his quarterback, as he's called him. So yeah,

1987
01:40:27,773 --> 01:40:30,013
Speaker 24: there's there's a lot to unpack when it comes to

1988
01:40:30,093 --> 01:40:30,493
Speaker 24: this deal.

1989
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is very interesting, isn't it. Like you just

1990
01:40:33,293 --> 01:40:36,933
Speaker 2: think about the psychology within the team, like you know,

1991
01:40:37,493 --> 01:40:39,373
Speaker 2: for the remainder of this season, the start of next

1992
01:40:39,453 --> 01:40:42,173
Speaker 2: year as well, like you know, so much of coaching

1993
01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:45,093
Speaker 2: and I think Scott Robinson would be the first to

1994
01:40:45,133 --> 01:40:48,453
Speaker 2: say this. Especially his ethos around coaching is around building

1995
01:40:48,493 --> 01:40:52,773
Speaker 2: culture and you know, managing different personalities and expectations and

1996
01:40:52,813 --> 01:40:54,773
Speaker 2: all those kinds of things. So you can't imagine that's

1997
01:40:54,813 --> 01:40:58,133
Speaker 2: pretty tricky, absolutely, you know, for it to be this

1998
01:40:58,333 --> 01:41:02,253
Speaker 2: overt that the parachuting, and you know, tricky for Moonger

1999
01:41:02,293 --> 01:41:03,133
Speaker 2: as well as the others.

2000
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Speaker 24: I think for like, I wonder like if you bote

2001
01:41:06,253 --> 01:41:08,413
Speaker 24: him and bot em Barrier strikes me as a very

2002
01:41:08,533 --> 01:41:11,773
Speaker 24: level headed chap but he must when he get when

2003
01:41:11,933 --> 01:41:13,933
Speaker 24: and if but when he gets picked to wear the

2004
01:41:13,973 --> 01:41:16,813
Speaker 24: ten jersey against Argentina and against South Africa later in

2005
01:41:16,853 --> 01:41:19,533
Speaker 24: the year, I wonder if even a small part of

2006
01:41:19,573 --> 01:41:21,613
Speaker 24: him thinks to himself, looks across at as coach and

2007
01:41:21,693 --> 01:41:24,773
Speaker 24: thinks that guy Raiser would prefer somebody else to be

2008
01:41:24,813 --> 01:41:25,973
Speaker 24: wearing this ten jersey, not me.

2009
01:41:26,173 --> 01:41:28,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it does. But man, look

2010
01:41:28,733 --> 01:41:31,573
Speaker 2: maybe that's a good maybe, maybe that's a great motivator,

2011
01:41:31,773 --> 01:41:34,293
Speaker 2: you know, for a lot of ani. But yeah, it's

2012
01:41:34,333 --> 01:41:40,213
Speaker 2: a very intriguing kind of you know, psychological you know situation,

2013
01:41:40,293 --> 01:41:42,453
Speaker 2: I suppose, and one for which I'm sure Steve Hanson

2014
01:41:42,453 --> 01:41:44,253
Speaker 2: will have lots of insights. So how you feel about

2015
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:45,893
Speaker 2: the warri is chances tonight?

2016
01:41:46,213 --> 01:41:48,493
Speaker 24: I'm very nervous about this game. I must say it's

2017
01:41:48,533 --> 01:41:51,453
Speaker 24: a big game. Penrith won again last night. That's nine

2018
01:41:51,493 --> 01:41:53,653
Speaker 24: in a row for them now, so their early season

2019
01:41:54,533 --> 01:41:56,893
Speaker 24: trials and tribulations long for god and they're into the

2020
01:41:56,973 --> 01:42:00,373
Speaker 24: top four now. So for the first time since Round six,

2021
01:42:00,933 --> 01:42:04,413
Speaker 24: the Warriors could finish a weekend outside of the top four.

2022
01:42:04,813 --> 01:42:08,293
Speaker 24: If they lose tonight, they will look it's I'm great

2023
01:42:08,373 --> 01:42:10,573
Speaker 24: news this morning. James Fisher Harris's back. That is a

2024
01:42:10,653 --> 01:42:13,813
Speaker 24: big boost to this team. He'll lead the side and

2025
01:42:14,293 --> 01:42:18,093
Speaker 24: you know his influence on this team is absolutely crucial.

2026
01:42:20,053 --> 01:42:20,933
Speaker 14: Ye don't know, Jack.

2027
01:42:22,253 --> 01:42:25,173
Speaker 2: All, Yeah, and take of breath.

2028
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Speaker 24: It would be huge if they could go there and win,

2029
01:42:29,293 --> 01:42:31,373
Speaker 24: not just because it would break out, you know, a

2030
01:42:31,453 --> 01:42:34,613
Speaker 24: two game at home losing streak, but beating the Bulldogs,

2031
01:42:34,653 --> 01:42:38,053
Speaker 24: who are also a top four side. We'll have designs on.

2032
01:42:38,133 --> 01:42:39,653
Speaker 24: It feels to me, Jack can I said this to

2033
01:42:39,693 --> 01:42:41,493
Speaker 24: you last week. I think that Penrith will be in

2034
01:42:41,533 --> 01:42:44,013
Speaker 24: the top four, So will the Storm, so will the Raiders.

2035
01:42:44,533 --> 01:42:47,453
Speaker 24: One other team will be and tonight's game between two

2036
01:42:47,533 --> 01:42:50,133
Speaker 24: of those contenders, the Worries and the Bulldogs, might go

2037
01:42:50,213 --> 01:42:52,813
Speaker 24: a long way towards the siding which of those two

2038
01:42:52,893 --> 01:42:53,573
Speaker 24: was actually there at the.

2039
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Speaker 2: End, totally agree, well said, thank you, sir. Looking forward

2040
01:42:55,653 --> 01:42:58,333
Speaker 2: to this afternoon. Jason Pine will be with us for

2041
01:42:58,373 --> 01:43:01,013
Speaker 2: weekend sport right after the twelve o'clock news. Steve Hanson

2042
01:43:01,053 --> 01:43:03,253
Speaker 2: his first guest this afternoon, taking your calls no doubt

2043
01:43:03,293 --> 01:43:05,333
Speaker 2: as well. Right now it is twenty four to twelve.

2044
01:43:05,653 --> 01:43:07,173
Speaker 2: We've got your book picks for the weekend.

2045
01:43:07,413 --> 01:43:11,893
Speaker 1: Next Saturday morning with Jack Team fulk Show podcast on

2046
01:43:12,173 --> 01:43:17,013
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News talks'd be twenty one to twelve.

2047
01:43:16,813 --> 01:43:19,253
Speaker 2: On News Talks. He'd be Katherin Rains as our book reviewer.

2048
01:43:19,373 --> 01:43:23,813
Speaker 2: She's here with her two recommendations for us this weekend. Hey, Catherine, Jack,

2049
01:43:24,013 --> 01:43:26,293
Speaker 2: really looking forward to the details and your thoughts on

2050
01:43:26,373 --> 01:43:29,693
Speaker 2: this one. Tell us about the Unlikely Doctor by Timorti Timoki.

2051
01:43:30,733 --> 01:43:32,813
Speaker 6: This is just really.

2052
01:43:32,653 --> 01:43:36,973
Speaker 25: Interesting and fascinating and a completely different life that I know.

2053
01:43:37,893 --> 01:43:41,493
Speaker 25: And so starting where he is now, he's just graduated

2054
01:43:41,693 --> 01:43:44,613
Speaker 25: after six years at med school, which he graduated at

2055
01:43:44,693 --> 01:43:46,853
Speaker 25: fifty six, and he's working at as a house officer

2056
01:43:47,093 --> 01:43:51,733
Speaker 25: at Minimal Hospital. But actually where Timahoe starts in the

2057
01:43:51,773 --> 01:43:54,973
Speaker 25: first six years of his life is almost idyllic compared

2058
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:56,813
Speaker 25: to the rest of his story, and he's raised by

2059
01:43:57,413 --> 01:43:59,613
Speaker 25: Alders and his family, and he describes them himself as

2060
01:43:59,613 --> 01:44:02,013
Speaker 25: almost the best years of his life because when he

2061
01:44:02,133 --> 01:44:03,893
Speaker 25: was born, his mum wasn't ready to be a mum,

2062
01:44:03,933 --> 01:44:05,973
Speaker 25: and he goes to live with his choru, and we

2063
01:44:06,053 --> 01:44:08,973
Speaker 25: need to his mum decides to take him back, and

2064
01:44:09,213 --> 01:44:12,813
Speaker 25: he ends up with her and her partner, and they

2065
01:44:12,853 --> 01:44:17,973
Speaker 25: were dysfunctional and substance abuses, and he's beaten mercilessly, really

2066
01:44:18,133 --> 01:44:21,453
Speaker 25: by his stepfather, you know, almost up to three times

2067
01:44:21,493 --> 01:44:24,053
Speaker 25: a week. And so by the time he turns thirteen,

2068
01:44:24,293 --> 01:44:28,413
Speaker 25: he's a really broken man and he's acting out and

2069
01:44:28,493 --> 01:44:33,453
Speaker 25: he doesn't care about anything or anyone, and he feels

2070
01:44:33,533 --> 01:44:36,893
Speaker 25: like he's really not meant to be anything. And around

2071
01:44:36,933 --> 01:44:39,133
Speaker 25: that time he starts sniffing petrol and glue and he

2072
01:44:39,253 --> 01:44:42,733
Speaker 25: ends up in trouble and boys homes and becomes embroad

2073
01:44:42,813 --> 01:44:47,213
Speaker 25: with gangs and finds himself behind bars, and then he

2074
01:44:47,333 --> 01:44:50,373
Speaker 25: finds his moment in Waikia in his twenties, and he

2075
01:44:50,533 --> 01:44:53,333
Speaker 25: realizes at that point the next time he ends up

2076
01:44:53,413 --> 01:44:57,613
Speaker 25: between bars, he won't be leaving and he gets out

2077
01:44:57,613 --> 01:45:00,133
Speaker 25: and he's still acting up, and he has these incremental

2078
01:45:00,253 --> 01:45:03,213
Speaker 25: moments of changes, he describes them, and within a year

2079
01:45:03,253 --> 01:45:05,413
Speaker 25: he's left the gang and he's getting some work and

2080
01:45:06,053 --> 01:45:08,333
Speaker 25: after fifteen years of kind of living in Australia, he

2081
01:45:08,413 --> 01:45:10,253
Speaker 25: comes back to New Zealand with the plan to be

2082
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:14,253
Speaker 25: a paramedic in study medicine. And then, because you know,

2083
01:45:14,453 --> 01:45:17,973
Speaker 25: life's full of ups and downs, he finds himself on

2084
01:45:18,093 --> 01:45:21,053
Speaker 25: a manslaughter charge following an incident with a man on

2085
01:45:21,133 --> 01:45:24,253
Speaker 25: Dominion Road late at night where he had been working

2086
01:45:24,413 --> 01:45:27,093
Speaker 25: at a drug and alcohol were with dilgertation center part time,

2087
01:45:28,493 --> 01:45:30,813
Speaker 25: and he tells the story really interestingly. He says, because

2088
01:45:30,813 --> 01:45:33,533
Speaker 25: he's mari and because he's poor, and because he's got history,

2089
01:45:34,053 --> 01:45:38,893
Speaker 25: they charged him with manslaughter. And it's really interesting to

2090
01:45:39,013 --> 01:45:40,373
Speaker 25: read in the book and it covers it in a

2091
01:45:40,413 --> 01:45:43,413
Speaker 25: lot more detail. But the lawyer's lawyer essentially comes back

2092
01:45:43,493 --> 01:45:45,853
Speaker 25: and says to him, I'll get three and you get

2093
01:45:45,853 --> 01:45:47,573
Speaker 25: three and a half years if you plead guilty and

2094
01:45:47,653 --> 01:45:49,133
Speaker 25: that other than that, they're just going to go for

2095
01:45:49,213 --> 01:45:52,493
Speaker 25: the maximum. And he's like, but I haven't done anything.

2096
01:45:53,213 --> 01:45:55,093
Speaker 25: And the easiest thing for him to do is except

2097
01:45:55,173 --> 01:45:59,093
Speaker 25: that for something he didn't do, and he he's in

2098
01:45:59,173 --> 01:46:01,333
Speaker 25: the end, he's found not guilty, and it's actually revealed

2099
01:46:01,373 --> 01:46:03,093
Speaker 25: in this time that the police made the decision to

2100
01:46:03,213 --> 01:46:06,253
Speaker 25: charge him without consulting the Crown Solicitor, and it's now

2101
01:46:06,413 --> 01:46:08,573
Speaker 25: claim that he's lodged with the way Tanga Tribunal. But

2102
01:46:09,333 --> 01:46:11,613
Speaker 25: he talks a lot about the barriers that have been

2103
01:46:11,653 --> 01:46:14,373
Speaker 25: placed in front of him and also the potential of individuals,

2104
01:46:14,853 --> 01:46:17,973
Speaker 25: and the real message in his story is about being

2105
01:46:18,173 --> 01:46:20,773
Speaker 25: poor and classed in a certain way by society. And

2106
01:46:20,893 --> 01:46:23,773
Speaker 25: it's a really eye opening story and I think every

2107
01:46:23,813 --> 01:46:26,053
Speaker 25: New Zealander should read this, and I think it makes

2108
01:46:26,093 --> 01:46:28,733
Speaker 25: you really think about people and their potential.

2109
01:46:28,933 --> 01:46:32,293
Speaker 2: Sounds incredible, Okay, great, So that is The Unlikely Doctor

2110
01:46:32,413 --> 01:46:34,813
Speaker 2: by Tim Molty to Morkey. There's going to be a

2111
01:46:34,853 --> 01:46:36,013
Speaker 2: movie as well, I think, Catherine.

2112
01:46:36,093 --> 01:46:39,653
Speaker 25: It sounds what a life, yeah, and it doesn't tell

2113
01:46:39,693 --> 01:46:41,253
Speaker 25: itself in the way of a Hollywood story because it

2114
01:46:41,333 --> 01:46:44,933
Speaker 25: just there's the things that happen and he really yeah,

2115
01:46:45,093 --> 01:46:48,053
Speaker 25: it's just you know, now they you know, and go

2116
01:46:48,173 --> 01:46:50,773
Speaker 25: to medical school in his late forties and he's now

2117
01:46:50,893 --> 01:46:53,333
Speaker 25: a doctor and you know, I mean incredible.

2118
01:46:53,413 --> 01:46:56,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Okay. The Unlikely Doctor by Tim Hawlty

2119
01:46:56,613 --> 01:47:00,253
Speaker 2: tu Mourchy is your first book next up something completely different,

2120
01:47:00,693 --> 01:47:03,413
Speaker 2: but Noah, none of the is fantastic. The Stars Are

2121
01:47:03,493 --> 01:47:06,013
Speaker 2: a Million Glittering Worlds by Gina Buttson.

2122
01:47:07,053 --> 01:47:10,453
Speaker 25: It is a set across a fifteen year period and

2123
01:47:10,493 --> 01:47:13,253
Speaker 25: said in Guatemala and Australia and New Zealand, and it

2124
01:47:13,333 --> 01:47:16,493
Speaker 25: kind of includes our recent history of the global financial

2125
01:47:16,533 --> 01:47:20,173
Speaker 25: crisis and the COVID lockdowns. And the main character, THEA,

2126
01:47:20,453 --> 01:47:23,533
Speaker 25: is really running from her past and sort of friendships

2127
01:47:23,573 --> 01:47:26,653
Speaker 25: and tragedies along the way. And the story begins with

2128
01:47:27,573 --> 01:47:31,213
Speaker 25: a tragedy and you're not really explicitly told what it is,

2129
01:47:31,333 --> 01:47:35,493
Speaker 25: and it creates this mystery that's kind of always there

2130
01:47:35,573 --> 01:47:37,493
Speaker 25: in the back of the story, and it's the secret

2131
01:47:37,573 --> 01:47:39,853
Speaker 25: that drives her and keeps her moving from place to

2132
01:47:39,973 --> 01:47:45,493
Speaker 25: place and drifting and never really finding peace and all

2133
01:47:45,533 --> 01:47:47,853
Speaker 25: of these things that have been unset in her life

2134
01:47:47,893 --> 01:47:50,373
Speaker 25: for so long. And she meets with Chris as this

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Speaker 25: man that she thought she could have the possibility of

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Speaker 25: having more than a friendship with until he kind of

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Speaker 25: introduces her to his girlfriend Sarah, and despite this, they

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Speaker 25: all become really good friends. And this friendship's played out

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01:48:03,493 --> 01:48:06,973
Speaker 25: in San Pedrow and a Quamalon town on the sure

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Speaker 25: of Lake Italian, and it's easy to imagine the place.

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Speaker 25: It's beautifully described and this energy and their friendship and

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Speaker 25: the culture and the way of the life. But there's

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Speaker 25: all these elements to their friendship and those kind of

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Speaker 25: toxic bits with things left unsaid and guessing what secrets

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Speaker 25: the other has and how can they trust each other,

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Speaker 25: And then tragedy rewrites life again. Anthia finds herself in

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Speaker 25: Tasmania in a relationship and testing her and these unanswered questions,

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Speaker 25: and it's really a book about how our past catches

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Speaker 25: up with us and becomes a central part of change

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Speaker 25: and this grief and mistrust and it's a really interesting

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Speaker 25: but you can always feel the kind of vibrancy of

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Speaker 25: these different places and these different worlds that she lives in.

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Speaker 25: It's through very well told story.

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Speaker 2: Nice Thank you, Catherine. So Catherine's picks this week The

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Speaker 2: Stars Are a Million Glittering Worlds by Gina Buttson and

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Speaker 2: The Unlikely Doctor by Tim Morty Timurky. Both of those

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Speaker 2: books will be up on the News Talks. They'd be

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Speaker 2: website giving the.

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Speaker 1: Inside scoop on all you need to know Saturday Morning

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Speaker 1: Jack Team News Talks at the.

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Speaker 2: Wow That's block Party. They're playing at the christ Hips

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01:49:28,053 --> 01:49:32,693
Speaker 2: Town Hall tomorrow night, playing at Auckland Spark Arena on Tuesday.

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01:49:32,853 --> 01:49:38,413
Speaker 2: It is twenty years since they released their debut album,

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Speaker 2: Silent Alarm. That song is called Banquet A Stell Cliff

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Speaker 2: at our music reviewers here this morning, and we're doing

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Speaker 2: things a bit differently, Estell. We're celebrating two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: turning back the hands of time.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, all the albums that are turning twenty this year

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Speaker 26: block party.

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Speaker 5: Do you know?

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Speaker 26: They cracked it when they gave one of their singles

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Speaker 26: to friends, Ferdinand lead Men. He shared it with a

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01:49:59,933 --> 01:50:02,653
Speaker 26: BBC one radio DJ who played it like just put

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Speaker 26: it straight on. Oh my gosh, she's did so much

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Speaker 26: trouble if he did that now, And then everyone was like,

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Speaker 26: well they they are amazing, and it sort of took

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Speaker 26: off from there.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? It feels like the last kind of time,

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Speaker 2: the last period of time on which you could be

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Speaker 2: discovered that way, don't you think?

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Speaker 12: I know?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: Absolutely, And it started pushing things online like that's when

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01:50:20,613 --> 01:50:24,053
Speaker 26: people started doing some of the online releases. But yeah,

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01:50:24,093 --> 01:50:25,893
Speaker 26: such a cool way to sort of get noticed, and

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Speaker 26: so why not. Twenty years sounds like a really long time,

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Speaker 26: but when I say two thousand and five, it doesn't

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Speaker 26: sing that long.

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01:50:33,373 --> 01:50:35,133
Speaker 2: Weird anyway, I feel the same way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Oasis currently on the reunion tour, mostly doing songs from

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Speaker 26: What's the Story, But they did have a massive album

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Speaker 26: twenty years ago with.

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Speaker 2: The important to Be There, You Go There, Yeah song

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01:50:53,573 --> 01:50:55,533
Speaker 2: this is the song that Don't Believe the Truth is

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Speaker 2: the album?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 26: It was funny too because some of the reviews they

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Speaker 26: got back then was like people were comparing them to

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01:51:11,533 --> 01:51:14,133
Speaker 26: the Beatles in the Kinks with songs like that. So

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Speaker 26: a massive tour for those guys as they relive there

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Speaker 26: are ninety two thousands moments.

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Speaker 2: So that was twenty years ago. The Black Eyed Peeple

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Speaker 2: Monkey Business twenty years ago.

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Speaker 7: Oh so I.

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Speaker 26: Smashed that album. I could not stop playing it. It

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01:51:26,133 --> 01:51:28,613
Speaker 26: was kind of controversial because some people didn't really like

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01:51:28,733 --> 01:51:29,933
Speaker 26: Fergie becoming.

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Speaker 2: Partner Gone mainstream.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, and look, it probably did get them a

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Speaker 26: little more mainstream with some of the radio heads.

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Speaker 2: They were every week.

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Speaker 26: As one of those ones where people are like, I

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01:51:43,973 --> 01:51:46,453
Speaker 26: don't want to ever listen to it again. Actually, when

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01:51:46,493 --> 01:51:49,133
Speaker 26: you go back to it, you're like, hello, my humps

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01:51:49,293 --> 01:51:54,293
Speaker 26: hiparious so great with my heart. Yeah, and you guys

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01:51:54,333 --> 01:51:55,493
Speaker 26: are going to we're going to play some of that

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01:51:55,613 --> 01:51:57,933
Speaker 26: in a little bit. First of all, let's go back

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01:51:57,933 --> 01:52:00,453
Speaker 26: to Gorillas. So this was a band doing that real

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01:52:00,653 --> 01:52:05,133
Speaker 26: art pop trip hop. But the song on that album

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01:52:05,173 --> 01:52:07,693
Speaker 26: that I love Demon Days is deare got a little

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01:52:07,693 --> 01:52:09,493
Speaker 26: bit of that for you just to remember.

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01:52:18,133 --> 01:52:18,653
Speaker 5: So good.

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01:52:20,693 --> 01:52:22,053
Speaker 2: As soon as you hear that, you know you.

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Speaker 26: And it was just something so different because it wasn't

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01:52:24,333 --> 01:52:26,573
Speaker 26: even about it was about imagery that was cartoon and

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01:52:26,653 --> 01:52:29,973
Speaker 26: something so different. They decided with that album not to

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01:52:30,173 --> 01:52:33,813
Speaker 26: tour it but instead to do residency shows. So they

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01:52:33,893 --> 01:52:36,653
Speaker 26: set up in Manchester for five nights and then in

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01:52:36,733 --> 01:52:38,973
Speaker 26: New York for five nights, and they played the album

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01:52:39,013 --> 01:52:41,773
Speaker 26: in its entirety, and they also had lots of the

2235
01:52:41,853 --> 01:52:44,853
Speaker 26: featured artists came and performed with them, like De La

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01:52:44,973 --> 01:52:50,333
Speaker 26: Soul and Nina Terry's mind blowing like so cool. So

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01:52:50,413 --> 01:52:51,973
Speaker 26: we were doing that kind of music, but we were

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01:52:52,013 --> 01:52:55,093
Speaker 26: also doing paramour kind of music. In two thousand and five,

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Speaker 26: so their album That's just We All We Know is

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Speaker 26: Falling Hailey Williams had actually signed to Atlantic Records. They

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01:53:03,133 --> 01:53:06,093
Speaker 26: wanted her to be a solo pop artist. She's like,

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01:53:06,173 --> 01:53:09,253
Speaker 26: I'm not the next Madonna, and so then she forms

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01:53:09,293 --> 01:53:12,853
Speaker 26: the band and they take it away and become paramore

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01:53:12,933 --> 01:53:13,893
Speaker 26: into incredible stuff.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, amazing.

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01:53:15,373 --> 01:53:18,213
Speaker 26: There another huge one which I'm like, really this was

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01:53:18,253 --> 01:53:20,093
Speaker 26: twenty years ago, Pushed the Button.

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01:53:20,173 --> 01:53:29,413
Speaker 13: Oh sugar babe, Yeah, well by By that feels like

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01:53:29,493 --> 01:53:30,253
Speaker 13: twenty years to me.

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Speaker 16: Maybe actually the sound of a day.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, that song and ugly like they were, Yeah, yeah,

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01:53:39,373 --> 01:53:43,213
Speaker 26: absolutely everywhere. So yeah, twenty years from Taller and more

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01:53:43,213 --> 01:53:44,333
Speaker 26: Ways is the album.

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Speaker 5: That that comes from.

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Speaker 26: We've probably already a lot of people will be replaying

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01:53:49,373 --> 01:53:52,373
Speaker 26: Fit Freddy Drop after DJ MO just recently passed away.

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Speaker 26: But based on a true story is also twenty years.

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Speaker 16: Old this year.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I was saying. I was saying

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01:53:58,093 --> 01:54:00,813
Speaker 2: the week that move passed. I was saying, I remember

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01:54:00,893 --> 01:54:03,053
Speaker 2: buying the album. I remember waiting for the day when

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01:54:03,093 --> 01:54:05,493
Speaker 2: it was released, I remember buying the physical album. I

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01:54:05,613 --> 01:54:08,933
Speaker 2: remember it in my bag and this like feeling of

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01:54:09,013 --> 01:54:10,413
Speaker 2: being like, oh man, I just need to get home

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01:54:10,493 --> 01:54:11,613
Speaker 2: so I can play this album. I need to get

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01:54:11,613 --> 01:54:13,773
Speaker 2: home so I can play this album. I don't think

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Speaker 2: i've I've ever experienced anticipation for an album like that,

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01:54:17,293 --> 01:54:20,533
Speaker 2: and it was so successful, right BBC World Widelessness voted

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Speaker 2: an Album of the Year in two thousand and five

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01:54:22,853 --> 01:54:23,453
Speaker 2: it and it.

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Speaker 26: Won New Zealand Music Award for Best Album. And it's

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01:54:25,773 --> 01:54:27,253
Speaker 26: one of those ones you can still play now and

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01:54:27,373 --> 01:54:30,613
Speaker 26: love so much watching them do that. They were in

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01:54:30,733 --> 01:54:33,853
Speaker 26: Walkers on the Wellington Waterfront and they rode into the harbor.

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01:54:33,933 --> 01:54:36,493
Speaker 26: Oh yeah, and that's where they made the music video

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01:54:36,693 --> 01:54:41,573
Speaker 26: for Hope. So yeah, yeah, no, and especially you got

2277
01:54:41,653 --> 01:54:43,973
Speaker 26: to see them so often, Like That's what I remember

2278
01:54:44,213 --> 01:54:46,413
Speaker 26: about that album coming out, that they were so accessible

2279
01:54:46,453 --> 01:54:47,533
Speaker 26: at the same time, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as well as as well as all that extra

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01:54:50,613 --> 01:54:53,933
Speaker 2: mentions Kaisa Chiefs, Coldbloy, Headaches and Why Judas pre Sead,

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01:54:53,973 --> 01:54:58,653
Speaker 2: Angel of Retribution, Stereophonics, Love, Sex, Violence, other in Your Honor.

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01:54:58,813 --> 01:55:01,213
Speaker 2: That was I mean, that was an absolute monster, Panic

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01:55:01,293 --> 01:55:05,853
Speaker 2: at the Disco, The Strokes, Nickelback, Pussycat Dolls, Robbie Williams, Madonna.

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01:55:05,933 --> 01:55:08,173
Speaker 2: It was an amazing year. How do you rate two

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01:55:08,213 --> 01:55:08,933
Speaker 2: thousand and five?

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01:55:09,733 --> 01:55:12,173
Speaker 26: I love two thousand and five. I still love so

2288
01:55:12,293 --> 01:55:14,173
Speaker 26: many of those albums you need to revisit them. So

2289
01:55:14,333 --> 01:55:16,373
Speaker 26: let's just do ten out of ten and start spinning

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01:55:16,453 --> 01:55:18,693
Speaker 26: some of those and you get stuff to the live

2291
01:55:18,773 --> 01:55:20,853
Speaker 26: jags when they come block party like you say tomorrow

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01:55:20,973 --> 01:55:22,733
Speaker 26: night and christ Oh so good.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much to Stella. Stale Clifford as

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Speaker 2: our music reviewer with us this morning seven to twelve.

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Speaker 2: On News Talks, he'd be.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B it is racing very quickly towards midday. On News Talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd be don't forget after twelve o'clock kicking off weekend

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01:55:43,933 --> 01:55:47,053
Speaker 2: sport this afternoon Steve Hansen with Jason Pine. They'll be

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Speaker 2: looking at that decision to bring Richie Muonga back from

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Speaker 2: his stint in Japan just in time for the Rugby

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01:55:53,533 --> 01:55:55,773
Speaker 2: World Cup. Thank you very much for all of your

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01:55:55,853 --> 01:55:58,933
Speaker 2: communication this morning, your text and your emails. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love you, I really do for everything. From our

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Speaker 2: show news Talks, he'd be dot coda on his z

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Speaker 2: ed Ford slash Jack is the best play to go.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to my wonderful producer O Libby. We're going to

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Speaker 2: leave you with one of these sounds of two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five, one of the ear worms of two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five. To close out the show this morning, this

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Speaker 2: is the Black Eyed Peas. Don't funk with my heart.

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Speaker 2: See you next week.

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Speaker 8: You got mars l Do.

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Speaker 6: You got your Bash?

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live

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