1 00:00:06,693 --> 00:00:10,093 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Simon Barnett and James Daniels Afternoons 2 00:00:10,133 --> 00:00:15,133 Speaker 1: podcast from News Talks ed B, Chats, laughs and the 3 00:00:15,133 --> 00:00:19,093 Speaker 1: best calls. This is the Highlight Reel with Simon Barnett 4 00:00:19,093 --> 00:00:21,613 Speaker 1: and James Daniels, powered by News Talks ed B. 5 00:00:22,013 --> 00:00:22,813 Speaker 2: Welcome to it. 6 00:00:22,973 --> 00:00:26,973 Speaker 3: Hello, James, Simon and Kotakoto. Everyone. 7 00:00:27,053 --> 00:00:29,733 Speaker 2: Actually, nice to have you with us. One of our 8 00:00:29,853 --> 00:00:32,933 Speaker 2: daughters had a gender reveal party on Sunday. 9 00:00:33,253 --> 00:00:38,573 Speaker 3: Not for herself, right, was it for you? There's the 10 00:00:38,613 --> 00:00:41,213 Speaker 3: difference between you and me. You had a gender reveal 11 00:00:41,293 --> 00:00:44,293 Speaker 3: party over the weekend. I had a stag party, that's right. 12 00:00:44,373 --> 00:00:47,373 Speaker 3: So well, anyway, how did the gender reveal party go? 13 00:00:47,453 --> 00:00:47,613 Speaker 4: Well? 14 00:00:47,613 --> 00:00:47,973 Speaker 3: Haven't it? 15 00:00:48,093 --> 00:00:50,173 Speaker 2: You know? Like it was something that when I and 16 00:00:50,293 --> 00:00:52,133 Speaker 2: Jody and I were having kids, it wasn't really around, 17 00:00:52,133 --> 00:00:54,293 Speaker 2: but it's a real big thing now. Yeah, this was 18 00:00:54,373 --> 00:00:56,613 Speaker 2: very low key, but they but she did it really well. 19 00:00:56,613 --> 00:00:58,573 Speaker 2: We all lined up on the couch. That is the family, 20 00:00:58,613 --> 00:01:01,293 Speaker 2: her sisters. It was just her sisters and myself and 21 00:01:01,373 --> 00:01:04,493 Speaker 2: the husband's wanner. We sat on the couch. Cody stood 22 00:01:04,533 --> 00:01:07,053 Speaker 2: that's the husband. He stood behind us and holding up 23 00:01:07,053 --> 00:01:09,293 Speaker 2: a sign saying boy or girl. And now we were 24 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:11,693 Speaker 2: facing away from him, so none of us out of 25 00:01:11,773 --> 00:01:14,973 Speaker 2: these were to him. And then Sophie. It was really 26 00:01:15,013 --> 00:01:17,013 Speaker 2: simple but kind of a cool thing because we were 27 00:01:17,013 --> 00:01:20,053 Speaker 2: all really excited. Sophie took a polaroid. Do you know 28 00:01:20,093 --> 00:01:24,813 Speaker 2: the polaroid cameras. They're they're very popular, but super old school. 29 00:01:24,973 --> 00:01:26,573 Speaker 2: Just like the old school, you push the button down, 30 00:01:26,653 --> 00:01:28,373 Speaker 2: the wee piece of paper comes out at the bottom 31 00:01:28,733 --> 00:01:31,133 Speaker 2: and then gradually developed some front of your eyes. Oh, 32 00:01:31,613 --> 00:01:33,173 Speaker 2: so we all had to look at the photo. It 33 00:01:33,333 --> 00:01:36,133 Speaker 2: was genuinely a reveal. It was a reveal, So this 34 00:01:36,253 --> 00:01:40,053 Speaker 2: is exactly literally, so we watched this picture emerge on 35 00:01:40,093 --> 00:01:43,013 Speaker 2: the paper and then resolve. Yeah, and we saw Cody 36 00:01:43,013 --> 00:01:45,093 Speaker 2: standing out and she's having a wee girl. Two girls 37 00:01:45,653 --> 00:01:47,893 Speaker 2: were yeah, so very exciting. So that was what I did. 38 00:01:47,933 --> 00:01:49,093 Speaker 2: And how was your stag doo? 39 00:01:49,653 --> 00:01:53,453 Speaker 3: You're long, lott and winded and I gut stood out, 40 00:01:53,573 --> 00:01:55,453 Speaker 3: did you It was a twelve hour stag doo? 41 00:01:56,013 --> 00:01:58,613 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what shape were you in? 42 00:01:59,253 --> 00:02:01,973 Speaker 3: Actually my wife was very surprised. I was quite coherent 43 00:02:02,053 --> 00:02:05,333 Speaker 3: and yeah, no, I was in good neck. I did 44 00:02:05,373 --> 00:02:09,173 Speaker 3: pace myself and food through the day and twelve ours. 45 00:02:09,573 --> 00:02:13,653 Speaker 2: That's a good nuts, James, it was that's a great knock, 46 00:02:13,733 --> 00:02:17,093 Speaker 2: well played, mate, been a big weekend, good stuff. And 47 00:02:17,133 --> 00:02:18,493 Speaker 2: the warriors were great, weren't they. 48 00:02:18,613 --> 00:02:20,453 Speaker 3: Oh Man, just talks to me about that. 49 00:02:21,173 --> 00:02:24,933 Speaker 1: The highlight reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels News 50 00:02:24,973 --> 00:02:25,733 Speaker 1: Talk said. 51 00:02:25,493 --> 00:02:28,933 Speaker 2: Be most people have seen, either on the news or online, 52 00:02:28,933 --> 00:02:33,413 Speaker 2: the shocking CCTV footage where three masked offenders attacked the 53 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:36,333 Speaker 2: jewelry store and Papa Toy Toy, the owner of the store, 54 00:02:36,373 --> 00:02:38,973 Speaker 2: was hitting the head with a hammer, his skull has 55 00:02:39,013 --> 00:02:41,853 Speaker 2: been fractured, and one of his family members comes out 56 00:02:41,853 --> 00:02:44,773 Speaker 2: of the back brandishing this large sort of samurai looking 57 00:02:44,813 --> 00:02:49,773 Speaker 2: sword and challenged one of the offenders. Thankfully, thankfully, nobody died. 58 00:02:50,133 --> 00:02:52,373 Speaker 2: But I looked at those images and I thought, Man, 59 00:02:53,013 --> 00:02:56,053 Speaker 2: is that bravery or is that stupidity? Is that adrenaline? 60 00:02:56,333 --> 00:02:58,533 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't do that, And this age in which 61 00:02:58,533 --> 00:03:00,693 Speaker 2: we live now, where there seem to be so many 62 00:03:00,733 --> 00:03:03,653 Speaker 2: weapons out there, I just would. I'd say, hey, take 63 00:03:03,693 --> 00:03:06,133 Speaker 2: whatever you want, take it. The owner of the store 64 00:03:06,213 --> 00:03:08,173 Speaker 2: very brave, Like I say, he was really brave to 65 00:03:08,213 --> 00:03:11,373 Speaker 2: take them on. I just don't know if that's wise. 66 00:03:12,253 --> 00:03:14,893 Speaker 3: I think in the cold light of day, you would go, oh, 67 00:03:15,053 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 3: that was possibly not a good, good idea. But in 68 00:03:18,133 --> 00:03:21,213 Speaker 3: the moment, I can understand that person doing that. 69 00:03:21,573 --> 00:03:24,173 Speaker 5: Get a Matt, Simon, why is it that you have 70 00:03:24,293 --> 00:03:26,493 Speaker 5: such a habit of getting me so iraq? 71 00:03:26,693 --> 00:03:28,893 Speaker 2: That's what I do strong with you. 72 00:03:29,213 --> 00:03:32,133 Speaker 5: That guy with that sword, the best thing he could 73 00:03:32,173 --> 00:03:34,653 Speaker 5: have done, in my opinion, has come out from the 74 00:03:34,653 --> 00:03:36,693 Speaker 5: back of the shop and driven it straight through that 75 00:03:36,733 --> 00:03:40,493 Speaker 5: guy's chest. This country has had a guts full of 76 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:42,653 Speaker 5: what's going on and the crimes that have happened in 77 00:03:42,653 --> 00:03:44,733 Speaker 5: this country. I take my head off to that guy 78 00:03:44,773 --> 00:03:47,533 Speaker 5: with that Samurai. I'm just disappointed that he didn't take 79 00:03:47,533 --> 00:03:48,533 Speaker 5: the guy's bloody head off. 80 00:03:48,613 --> 00:03:50,733 Speaker 2: I can understand your emotion there, Matt, and I do 81 00:03:50,853 --> 00:03:53,013 Speaker 2: get it like I do get what you're saying. I'm 82 00:03:53,013 --> 00:03:54,853 Speaker 2: just putting it out there, mate, and again not an 83 00:03:54,853 --> 00:03:56,853 Speaker 2: attempt to blame the victim, because who knows what we 84 00:03:56,893 --> 00:03:59,053 Speaker 2: would do in that situation. It was such a scary, 85 00:03:59,173 --> 00:03:59,933 Speaker 2: scary moment. 86 00:04:00,013 --> 00:04:01,973 Speaker 5: James, can you give Simon a slap around the head 87 00:04:01,973 --> 00:04:05,373 Speaker 5: if you please? Now, Simon to me, yep, the first 88 00:04:05,413 --> 00:04:08,453 Speaker 5: thing that happened that was wrong was the burglar entered 89 00:04:08,493 --> 00:04:12,213 Speaker 5: the store. Beyond that point, it doesn't matter what the 90 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:15,333 Speaker 5: owner or what the owner's son does. That's when the 91 00:04:15,413 --> 00:04:18,533 Speaker 5: law is broken. That's when the lines crossed. Whatever happens 92 00:04:18,533 --> 00:04:21,293 Speaker 5: to that criminal past that point, in my opinion, that's 93 00:04:21,293 --> 00:04:22,533 Speaker 5: his problem. That's as well. 94 00:04:23,973 --> 00:04:27,373 Speaker 6: Hi, Hi guys, how are you. I'm good, Thank you. 95 00:04:27,413 --> 00:04:29,933 Speaker 6: I'm a big time listener, but never a caller, but 96 00:04:30,013 --> 00:04:32,453 Speaker 6: this is a hot topic for me, so I'm calling. 97 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:36,893 Speaker 6: My partner is a manufacturing jeweler. He's been one for 98 00:04:37,133 --> 00:04:40,693 Speaker 6: forty eight years and has had his own little boutique 99 00:04:40,853 --> 00:04:44,413 Speaker 6: jewelry shop. We've been ram raated twice, he's been robbed 100 00:04:44,853 --> 00:04:49,013 Speaker 6: once before that, and we've talked about this topic just 101 00:04:49,093 --> 00:04:51,933 Speaker 6: over the last few days because you know what's going on, 102 00:04:53,013 --> 00:04:55,293 Speaker 6: and I've asked him, I've you know, what would you do, 103 00:04:55,493 --> 00:05:00,093 Speaker 6: and he would most definitely defend his stock, his livelihood, 104 00:05:00,253 --> 00:05:04,453 Speaker 6: our livelihood, because he has handmade everything that is in 105 00:05:04,493 --> 00:05:08,253 Speaker 6: this shop. We've got star We've got two girls, young 106 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:11,413 Speaker 6: ladies who work for us, and we've told them at 107 00:05:11,453 --> 00:05:14,893 Speaker 6: no time should they ever try to defend anything. And 108 00:05:14,933 --> 00:05:17,813 Speaker 6: we've got everything in place for their defense, panic buttons 109 00:05:17,853 --> 00:05:20,693 Speaker 6: and all sorts of things, and we've told them strictly 110 00:05:20,773 --> 00:05:24,493 Speaker 6: they must not even try to protect anything except themselves. 111 00:05:25,413 --> 00:05:29,133 Speaker 6: My partner, on the other hand, he has just said that. 112 00:05:29,693 --> 00:05:34,053 Speaker 6: And the first time he was robbed, it was ten 113 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:38,733 Speaker 6: years ago now, a couple of big, burly guys came 114 00:05:38,733 --> 00:05:41,693 Speaker 6: into the shop and just grabbed him instead give us 115 00:05:41,693 --> 00:05:46,093 Speaker 6: your money, and he reacted with every bit of adrenaline 116 00:05:46,133 --> 00:05:49,053 Speaker 6: and him he was smaller than them, but he ended 117 00:05:49,093 --> 00:05:51,253 Speaker 6: up fighting them both and pushing them out of the shop. 118 00:05:52,573 --> 00:05:55,853 Speaker 6: And afterwards he just thought, I didn't even have time 119 00:05:55,893 --> 00:05:58,693 Speaker 6: to think about what I was doing the adrenaline kicked in. 120 00:05:59,573 --> 00:06:05,533 Speaker 6: He just thought, it does bring an anger, a retaliation. 121 00:06:05,213 --> 00:06:08,053 Speaker 1: Feel the highlight reel. 122 00:06:08,453 --> 00:06:11,573 Speaker 2: Part of the problem, you might argue is slipping standards 123 00:06:11,653 --> 00:06:14,733 Speaker 2: just in general, he says, by way of a segue. 124 00:06:15,533 --> 00:06:18,653 Speaker 2: So then I read the story about this Hamilton councilor 125 00:06:18,693 --> 00:06:23,253 Speaker 2: by the name of Andrew Bidder, and he's written what 126 00:06:23,453 --> 00:06:27,213 Speaker 2: can only be described as an expletive laden rant to 127 00:06:27,373 --> 00:06:31,613 Speaker 2: a neighboring council and couple of councilors about a couple 128 00:06:31,653 --> 00:06:34,333 Speaker 2: of things he disagrees with. And he's talking particularly about 129 00:06:34,333 --> 00:06:37,813 Speaker 2: a submission to the Wye part District council and the 130 00:06:37,813 --> 00:06:40,933 Speaker 2: mayor of the Wye Part District Council is Susan o'reagan. 131 00:06:41,053 --> 00:06:43,773 Speaker 2: So one thing he says is Oreagan, get off your 132 00:06:43,813 --> 00:06:47,293 Speaker 2: fat ass and do your job. That's the least offensive 133 00:06:47,493 --> 00:06:50,533 Speaker 2: part of the email. He goes on to describe the 134 00:06:50,613 --> 00:06:54,373 Speaker 2: council and he says, what the f and I have 135 00:06:54,413 --> 00:06:56,413 Speaker 2: to be very careful because can't ex spell this out 136 00:06:56,453 --> 00:06:58,133 Speaker 2: even what the f are you? 137 00:07:00,373 --> 00:07:00,533 Speaker 4: Ah? 138 00:07:01,533 --> 00:07:06,013 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a really derogatory term for people that they 139 00:07:06,093 --> 00:07:08,333 Speaker 2: used to be called people with special needs? This because 140 00:07:08,373 --> 00:07:09,293 Speaker 2: what the f are you? 141 00:07:09,653 --> 00:07:09,893 Speaker 7: Are? A? 142 00:07:11,893 --> 00:07:14,173 Speaker 2: And then he calls them another offensive term, and then 143 00:07:14,173 --> 00:07:18,253 Speaker 2: he calls them the C word. Doing the complaint means 144 00:07:18,253 --> 00:07:21,973 Speaker 2: he'll probably be censured. What does that mean? Nobody really knows, 145 00:07:22,053 --> 00:07:23,053 Speaker 2: but it's nothing he. 146 00:07:23,013 --> 00:07:27,013 Speaker 3: Gets told off. It's a code of conduct. Yeah, it's paint. 147 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:31,173 Speaker 2: So we're saying, well, this kind of stuff, surely that's 148 00:07:31,213 --> 00:07:36,213 Speaker 2: sackable if I if I said that, I'd be sacked. Yep, 149 00:07:36,413 --> 00:07:38,933 Speaker 2: you'd be sacked. Ye, most people in their place of 150 00:07:38,933 --> 00:07:41,973 Speaker 2: work could be sacked for that. You've been a counselor 151 00:07:42,013 --> 00:07:43,933 Speaker 2: do you think that you should be able to be 152 00:07:44,013 --> 00:07:47,493 Speaker 2: sacked for this kind of thing? As a counselor to 153 00:07:47,573 --> 00:07:52,093 Speaker 2: be honest. No, why because when any other place of work, 154 00:07:52,133 --> 00:07:52,813 Speaker 2: it's sackable. 155 00:07:52,933 --> 00:07:55,773 Speaker 3: Well, because it's quite clear what you can be sacked 156 00:07:55,813 --> 00:07:58,333 Speaker 3: for or why you would no longer hold. 157 00:07:58,093 --> 00:08:00,653 Speaker 2: Office to change the rules though what so, yeah, you 158 00:08:00,693 --> 00:08:04,573 Speaker 2: could if you bring the council into disrepute, like my 159 00:08:04,653 --> 00:08:07,373 Speaker 2: contract says, you can be sacked. And in this case, 160 00:08:07,733 --> 00:08:10,253 Speaker 2: that guy was a dropkick to speak like that as 161 00:08:10,413 --> 00:08:13,573 Speaker 2: and I might say Paula south Gale, Hamilton Mere. She 162 00:08:13,653 --> 00:08:15,693 Speaker 2: says this, and I think it's well said, She says, 163 00:08:16,053 --> 00:08:18,293 Speaker 2: I find it. I'm quoting her. I find that use 164 00:08:18,333 --> 00:08:22,373 Speaker 2: of language appalling. I think that behavior from anybody, let 165 00:08:22,413 --> 00:08:25,093 Speaker 2: alone a public person, is unprofessional. I can't ignore it. 166 00:08:25,093 --> 00:08:29,333 Speaker 2: It's threatening, it's vulgar, it's abusive, it's disrespectful. That's like 167 00:08:29,413 --> 00:08:31,613 Speaker 2: that guy's so out of touch. I don't like it, 168 00:08:31,653 --> 00:08:34,693 Speaker 2: but I don't think it's sackable. What are we going 169 00:08:34,733 --> 00:08:36,973 Speaker 2: to do to solve the ferry problem? Those things are 170 00:08:37,173 --> 00:08:39,133 Speaker 2: just I mean, what what what would you do? 171 00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:42,133 Speaker 3: Well, there are a couple of options there, get some 172 00:08:42,333 --> 00:08:45,573 Speaker 3: new ships, and I realized that we need the infrastructure 173 00:08:45,613 --> 00:08:49,373 Speaker 3: at each end in Wellington and in the South Island 174 00:08:49,933 --> 00:08:53,333 Speaker 3: and that's another issue. But we need new ships full stop, 175 00:08:53,813 --> 00:08:57,853 Speaker 3: right or you could get a private company to do it. 176 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:00,013 Speaker 2: Was that Blue Bridge? 177 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:01,893 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but you don't want to leave them on 178 00:09:01,933 --> 00:09:02,253 Speaker 3: their own. 179 00:09:02,253 --> 00:09:04,613 Speaker 2: Do you got any ideas what to do with the 180 00:09:04,613 --> 00:09:05,213 Speaker 2: ferry setup? 181 00:09:05,333 --> 00:09:08,133 Speaker 8: Get a Paul him James. I think a good idea 182 00:09:08,133 --> 00:09:11,773 Speaker 8: to at least a couple of fairies, really modern ones, 183 00:09:12,173 --> 00:09:14,453 Speaker 8: at least them for two or three years. You don't 184 00:09:14,453 --> 00:09:17,813 Speaker 8: have to have the big capital outlay and within viewer 185 00:09:17,853 --> 00:09:19,533 Speaker 8: purchasing them later. 186 00:09:20,533 --> 00:09:21,893 Speaker 2: At least to own kind of deal. 187 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:25,373 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think soly you haven't got that same capital outlay. 188 00:09:25,973 --> 00:09:27,773 Speaker 8: And I think we need a dry dock too for 189 00:09:27,853 --> 00:09:30,333 Speaker 8: the fairies. I don't believe we've got a proper dry dock. 190 00:09:30,253 --> 00:09:33,013 Speaker 2: Have we. Why do we have to own them? You're right, Paul, 191 00:09:33,173 --> 00:09:35,573 Speaker 2: we don't have to. We can keep that cost down. 192 00:09:35,653 --> 00:09:37,453 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not going to be cheap to lease them, 193 00:09:37,973 --> 00:09:41,373 Speaker 2: but we still get a really new vessel. We don't 194 00:09:41,413 --> 00:09:43,853 Speaker 2: have the capital outlay helps the books. 195 00:09:44,133 --> 00:09:46,533 Speaker 3: The main thing is that they've got to find ships 196 00:09:46,573 --> 00:09:51,173 Speaker 3: that will fit the current infrastructure, because that's the big issue. 197 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:54,053 Speaker 3: I think Nicola Willis was right that they were ferraris, 198 00:09:54,173 --> 00:09:58,133 Speaker 3: or let's call them forward rangers raptors, and really. 199 00:09:57,933 --> 00:10:00,573 Speaker 2: All we needed was just something slightly less, something smaller. 200 00:10:00,613 --> 00:10:01,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, good Dave. 201 00:10:01,973 --> 00:10:04,373 Speaker 9: These fairies are rail fairies. I have always been called 202 00:10:04,373 --> 00:10:08,093 Speaker 9: the rail fairies nineteen sixty when the first one and 203 00:10:08,293 --> 00:10:10,053 Speaker 9: the trains when they get the picture and the ramp 204 00:10:10,053 --> 00:10:12,053 Speaker 9: comes down and they just drive, well they don't drive 205 00:10:12,093 --> 00:10:14,013 Speaker 9: the train. They push all the wagons on and at 206 00:10:14,013 --> 00:10:17,173 Speaker 9: Wellington they just pull them off again. And we need 207 00:10:17,293 --> 00:10:19,813 Speaker 9: rail ferries and out of the three only one of 208 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:22,813 Speaker 9: them is rail capable. We have to order rail fairies. 209 00:10:22,933 --> 00:10:25,613 Speaker 9: And it's part they say, they keep calling the fairies 210 00:10:25,733 --> 00:10:28,173 Speaker 9: part of State Highway one, but it's also part of 211 00:10:28,293 --> 00:10:32,533 Speaker 9: the main trunk Rail't forget that. That's why these fairies started. 212 00:10:32,733 --> 00:10:34,693 Speaker 2: Your argument is just to suck up the cost. We 213 00:10:34,813 --> 00:10:36,133 Speaker 2: just stick with the plan that we had. 214 00:10:36,413 --> 00:10:39,813 Speaker 9: Well, it's part of the National Highway, you know villions 215 00:10:39,893 --> 00:10:42,493 Speaker 9: going into the and it's also part of our main 216 00:10:42,573 --> 00:10:43,413 Speaker 9: tourist route. 217 00:10:43,613 --> 00:10:45,933 Speaker 2: Dave, appreciate your point of view, mate, thank you for calling. 218 00:10:46,333 --> 00:10:52,733 Speaker 1: Cheers Bo The highlight reel with sign James. The highlight 219 00:10:52,813 --> 00:10:54,773 Speaker 1: reel with sign James. 220 00:10:55,213 --> 00:10:56,973 Speaker 2: Do you like the new all Blacks Jersey. It's quite 221 00:10:56,973 --> 00:10:59,613 Speaker 2: controversial already. No I don't I love it. 222 00:10:59,813 --> 00:11:00,373 Speaker 3: I know you do. 223 00:11:00,573 --> 00:11:02,493 Speaker 2: I love the white collar. Good on them for going 224 00:11:02,533 --> 00:11:05,653 Speaker 2: back old school. Yes, well they called all Blacks. 225 00:11:05,653 --> 00:11:08,013 Speaker 3: They should have it all black from all the ads 226 00:11:08,053 --> 00:11:09,013 Speaker 3: because they have to pay for them. 227 00:11:09,133 --> 00:11:11,933 Speaker 2: A lot of texts re eat the price. And the 228 00:11:11,933 --> 00:11:14,773 Speaker 2: good thing on our very discerning listeners is that they 229 00:11:14,773 --> 00:11:17,613 Speaker 2: think one hundred and ten dollars is actually reasonably priced, 230 00:11:18,053 --> 00:11:19,533 Speaker 2: and they thought would be much more. So that's the 231 00:11:19,533 --> 00:11:23,693 Speaker 2: first thing. Second thing, the female All Blacks Jersey has 232 00:11:23,733 --> 00:11:26,293 Speaker 2: the cutback collar. Oh right, it's the males that have 233 00:11:26,373 --> 00:11:29,133 Speaker 2: the full on collar, which I like, right with James 234 00:11:29,133 --> 00:11:34,493 Speaker 2: hates because he's a hater. Third thing, listen to this text. Well, 235 00:11:34,613 --> 00:11:37,813 Speaker 2: Scott Barrett as a joke, he took the Crusaders from 236 00:11:37,813 --> 00:11:38,573 Speaker 2: top to bottom. 237 00:11:39,053 --> 00:11:42,453 Speaker 3: He hardly played all season. I suspect that they kept 238 00:11:42,493 --> 00:11:44,653 Speaker 3: him on ice for the All Blacks. 239 00:11:44,653 --> 00:11:47,013 Speaker 2: Actually, well no, because he broke his finger. 240 00:11:47,773 --> 00:11:47,973 Speaker 7: Wow. 241 00:11:48,133 --> 00:11:49,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know he could have come back sooner. 242 00:11:50,013 --> 00:11:53,653 Speaker 3: He could have done a patty to Yeah. 243 00:11:54,093 --> 00:11:57,013 Speaker 2: I really like Scott Barrett as a captain. I think 244 00:11:57,053 --> 00:11:58,973 Speaker 2: he's the sort of captain that you need for the 245 00:11:59,013 --> 00:11:59,413 Speaker 2: all blacks. 246 00:11:59,453 --> 00:12:04,173 Speaker 3: A number of people complaining about the crusaders bias in there, 247 00:12:04,213 --> 00:12:06,973 Speaker 3: but you know the are the people that that he's 248 00:12:07,093 --> 00:12:07,933 Speaker 3: nailed his flag to. 249 00:12:08,093 --> 00:12:10,013 Speaker 2: Who would you have as all black captain? 250 00:12:10,813 --> 00:12:13,733 Speaker 3: No, I'd go with Scott Barrett got highlight reel. 251 00:12:13,973 --> 00:12:16,613 Speaker 2: A headline grabbed my attens in this morning in the 252 00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:20,373 Speaker 2: paper and it says this best thing for our marriage? 253 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:25,853 Speaker 2: How MDMA slash ecstasy is on the rise among older Kiwis. 254 00:12:26,613 --> 00:12:30,093 Speaker 2: MDMA is New Zealand's most popular illicit substance after cannabis. 255 00:12:30,493 --> 00:12:33,493 Speaker 2: About four percent of kiwi's say they've tried it recently, 256 00:12:33,933 --> 00:12:36,973 Speaker 2: but there is an increasing number of over fifties that 257 00:12:37,053 --> 00:12:39,293 Speaker 2: are using it. When I read it, I was like, 258 00:12:39,413 --> 00:12:41,773 Speaker 2: how does this work? Like, I don't understand that. Yes, 259 00:12:41,813 --> 00:12:44,613 Speaker 2: I know I have never tried it, but it's illegal. 260 00:12:44,693 --> 00:12:47,293 Speaker 2: It's a class B drag and that's probably because I'm 261 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:49,573 Speaker 2: a bit of a goodie twosues in that regard. The 262 00:12:49,573 --> 00:12:51,733 Speaker 2: more I read it, the more I felt a bit uncomfortable. 263 00:12:51,773 --> 00:12:54,373 Speaker 2: Was is it socially irresponsible even putting it out there? 264 00:12:54,373 --> 00:12:56,773 Speaker 2: Because the woman that they speak to they've changed her name. 265 00:12:57,373 --> 00:13:00,453 Speaker 2: She's a senior manager in Auckland, she's a business owner, 266 00:13:00,893 --> 00:13:03,573 Speaker 2: and she says that it completely changed their marriage for 267 00:13:03,613 --> 00:13:05,973 Speaker 2: the better. It doesn't go into the lurid details, but 268 00:13:06,053 --> 00:13:09,213 Speaker 2: one thing she said is she's very careful person. She's 269 00:13:09,213 --> 00:13:11,733 Speaker 2: a very paranoid person. She says, I was brought up 270 00:13:11,733 --> 00:13:15,213 Speaker 2: in a conservative Christian household, so I was scared of drags. 271 00:13:15,933 --> 00:13:19,533 Speaker 2: But her self image and self esteem has been suffering recently. 272 00:13:19,813 --> 00:13:22,213 Speaker 2: Once fifty kicked in. She was worried about her body image. 273 00:13:22,213 --> 00:13:24,093 Speaker 2: When she took this drag, she said, she felt so 274 00:13:24,213 --> 00:13:27,293 Speaker 2: much better about herself. It gave her great confidence. I think, 275 00:13:27,373 --> 00:13:30,093 Speaker 2: she says, I saw myself as a goddess when I 276 00:13:30,133 --> 00:13:31,413 Speaker 2: took it. Do you reckon it's on the end? 277 00:13:31,453 --> 00:13:34,173 Speaker 3: You're curious about it? Well, I don't know for a fact, 278 00:13:34,333 --> 00:13:36,933 Speaker 3: but when I read this story, I thought, oh, you know, 279 00:13:37,093 --> 00:13:38,853 Speaker 3: I kind of get that because people who are in 280 00:13:38,893 --> 00:13:41,453 Speaker 3: their fifties, they were born in the seventies, and so 281 00:13:41,653 --> 00:13:43,653 Speaker 3: during the nineties, they are in their twenties when they 282 00:13:43,773 --> 00:13:47,013 Speaker 3: probably tried it for the first time, and they may 283 00:13:47,053 --> 00:13:49,773 Speaker 3: have gone away from it, and then now the kids 284 00:13:49,813 --> 00:13:51,893 Speaker 3: are off their hands and so on, and they're back 285 00:13:52,253 --> 00:13:54,573 Speaker 3: into getting a bit of a buzz, and you know. 286 00:13:54,613 --> 00:13:58,693 Speaker 3: What I wonder is whether they are using that instead 287 00:13:58,693 --> 00:13:59,213 Speaker 3: of alcohol. 288 00:13:59,373 --> 00:14:01,613 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about the fact that it is illegal? 289 00:14:01,813 --> 00:14:04,853 Speaker 2: Does that not come into these people's considerations when they're 290 00:14:05,253 --> 00:14:05,853 Speaker 2: taking part. 291 00:14:05,733 --> 00:14:07,533 Speaker 3: When they're looking for a happy time? 292 00:14:08,293 --> 00:14:09,893 Speaker 2: I don't think so, Mark joins us. 293 00:14:09,893 --> 00:14:13,133 Speaker 7: Hello, Mark, you guys, I'd like to just focus on 294 00:14:13,253 --> 00:14:15,893 Speaker 7: what the lady who gave you example of being in 295 00:14:15,893 --> 00:14:17,893 Speaker 7: the mid fifties and taking it, and since you felt 296 00:14:17,933 --> 00:14:20,533 Speaker 7: like a goddess. One thing this thing will do is 297 00:14:20,573 --> 00:14:25,213 Speaker 7: it will strip away your bs. We'll leave you standing 298 00:14:25,213 --> 00:14:27,613 Speaker 7: there in front of your partner and them in front 299 00:14:27,613 --> 00:14:30,693 Speaker 7: of you, and you sort of see the whole person. 300 00:14:31,293 --> 00:14:33,933 Speaker 7: They see all of you, They see all your experience, 301 00:14:34,013 --> 00:14:37,613 Speaker 7: your physicality, your mind. You love all these things, and 302 00:14:37,653 --> 00:14:39,693 Speaker 7: you see that in them, and it rounds off all 303 00:14:39,773 --> 00:14:42,933 Speaker 7: the sharpened edges and you just left there with each other. 304 00:14:43,373 --> 00:14:45,493 Speaker 2: What happens when you don't have that, though, and the 305 00:14:46,013 --> 00:14:48,333 Speaker 2: rough edges aren't sharpened off, and you see each other 306 00:14:48,413 --> 00:14:50,653 Speaker 2: and you go, oh, man, I need the drug. 307 00:14:51,133 --> 00:14:51,373 Speaker 4: To be. 308 00:14:53,013 --> 00:14:54,973 Speaker 7: Honest, I'd like to engage with James on this one 309 00:14:55,013 --> 00:14:59,653 Speaker 7: because I just think you're coius about all this. So James, 310 00:14:59,693 --> 00:15:01,613 Speaker 7: I sort of look at it this way take away 311 00:15:01,653 --> 00:15:05,853 Speaker 7: all that the woman is. She feels herself this rounded 312 00:15:05,973 --> 00:15:09,373 Speaker 7: human being again, and it can create a chance not 313 00:15:09,413 --> 00:15:13,333 Speaker 7: only to heal and connect, but to also re engage 314 00:15:13,373 --> 00:15:16,773 Speaker 7: and find a pathway forward where you express and understand 315 00:15:16,853 --> 00:15:20,373 Speaker 7: your your growth together. And I think that's something that 316 00:15:21,093 --> 00:15:25,053 Speaker 7: has sort of lost in the and Simon's quirky we 317 00:15:25,173 --> 00:15:26,493 Speaker 7: tend I think it's illegal. 318 00:15:26,773 --> 00:15:28,693 Speaker 10: Will you get done by that thing? 319 00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:29,373 Speaker 9: Yeah? 320 00:15:29,373 --> 00:15:32,013 Speaker 3: But Mark, what about the fact that it is illegal? 321 00:15:32,093 --> 00:15:33,733 Speaker 3: Does that worry you at any point in time? 322 00:15:33,853 --> 00:15:33,973 Speaker 6: No? 323 00:15:34,293 --> 00:15:38,013 Speaker 7: No't Look, I'm fifty three on the target market. This thing. 324 00:15:38,293 --> 00:15:40,813 Speaker 7: Everybody went to Europe and to the Oe and eighty 325 00:15:40,853 --> 00:15:44,013 Speaker 7: eight eighty nine Berlin Wall came down and everybody was 326 00:15:44,053 --> 00:15:46,093 Speaker 7: on the easy good. He's a good and He's a 327 00:15:46,133 --> 00:15:47,213 Speaker 7: good was the. 328 00:15:47,093 --> 00:15:48,973 Speaker 5: Song all over the world. 329 00:15:49,253 --> 00:15:52,453 Speaker 7: Ease reigned through the world. It's been around for a 330 00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:53,213 Speaker 7: long time now. 331 00:15:53,293 --> 00:15:55,653 Speaker 2: Hey, so Marke, So it's the wowser here. What happens 332 00:15:55,653 --> 00:15:57,453 Speaker 2: when you're not on the drug with your relationship? 333 00:15:57,813 --> 00:15:59,733 Speaker 7: If you need that, drugs made the break It's no, 334 00:15:59,893 --> 00:16:02,613 Speaker 7: it made the breakthrough for you, Simon. It stripped away 335 00:16:02,773 --> 00:16:05,573 Speaker 7: what that evening did for for your relationship. For a 336 00:16:06,093 --> 00:16:08,893 Speaker 7: very long period of time was it made the breakthrough 337 00:16:08,933 --> 00:16:11,013 Speaker 7: that allowed you to carry on further and throther. It 338 00:16:11,093 --> 00:16:13,693 Speaker 7: just creates a deeper connection for that period of time, 339 00:16:13,733 --> 00:16:15,893 Speaker 7: and then you're like, well, actually we did that. 340 00:16:16,453 --> 00:16:18,653 Speaker 2: If you say don't care about the illegal aspect of 341 00:16:18,653 --> 00:16:21,333 Speaker 2: the drugs, you can't pick and choose which laws you go. 342 00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:22,853 Speaker 2: Are you that one one doesn't? 343 00:16:22,933 --> 00:16:23,133 Speaker 5: Yeah? 344 00:16:23,213 --> 00:16:26,013 Speaker 7: Yeah, you do. You do. And every every day, every 345 00:16:26,053 --> 00:16:29,013 Speaker 7: human being decides whether or not they'll skimmed through the 346 00:16:29,013 --> 00:16:31,133 Speaker 7: orange light. It's just the way of the world. 347 00:16:31,213 --> 00:16:33,733 Speaker 3: Mark, it's Mark, it's the wild one. Here. Are you 348 00:16:33,813 --> 00:16:35,573 Speaker 3: in a relationship right now? 349 00:16:35,693 --> 00:16:36,173 Speaker 5: No? 350 00:16:36,173 --> 00:16:37,053 Speaker 7: No, not currently. 351 00:16:37,293 --> 00:16:37,853 Speaker 3: What happened? 352 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:41,053 Speaker 5: What happened? 353 00:16:43,173 --> 00:16:45,493 Speaker 7: That's just called life and things and the way things 354 00:16:45,533 --> 00:16:49,333 Speaker 7: play out. No, nobody's fault, just things happened. 355 00:16:49,373 --> 00:16:51,813 Speaker 3: You were going out with a wowser like Simon. That's 356 00:16:51,813 --> 00:16:52,213 Speaker 3: what I was. 357 00:16:54,773 --> 00:17:00,173 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark. Interesting, Sorry guys, says this text. I've 358 00:17:00,173 --> 00:17:03,413 Speaker 2: had to switch off. My partner took MDM a Christmas time. 359 00:17:03,733 --> 00:17:07,693 Speaker 2: He died from toxicity and he had a heart attack. 360 00:17:07,853 --> 00:17:10,253 Speaker 2: I have the Connor report that says it was directly 361 00:17:10,293 --> 00:17:13,493 Speaker 2: attributal to his death. And these people mock it. And see, 362 00:17:13,773 --> 00:17:16,373 Speaker 2: I know Mark called me a wowser, but that stuff's real, 363 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:18,853 Speaker 2: that text is real. And again I go back to 364 00:17:18,893 --> 00:17:21,293 Speaker 2: what the woman from the Drug Foundation said, despite what 365 00:17:21,373 --> 00:17:24,453 Speaker 2: Mark said with respect, she said, there are real caveats 366 00:17:24,453 --> 00:17:27,773 Speaker 2: around this because of the serotonin in the brain. And 367 00:17:27,813 --> 00:17:31,973 Speaker 2: if you're on antidepression medication, or you suffer from depression 368 00:17:32,053 --> 00:17:34,053 Speaker 2: or anxiety and you're not even non medication, it can 369 00:17:34,093 --> 00:17:35,413 Speaker 2: have devastating effects. 370 00:17:35,453 --> 00:17:38,373 Speaker 1: The best moments from the week, this is the highlight 371 00:17:38,453 --> 00:17:42,373 Speaker 1: reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels powered by News Talk. 372 00:17:42,213 --> 00:17:45,413 Speaker 2: Said awful as it is, how difficult as it is 373 00:17:45,453 --> 00:17:48,893 Speaker 2: to discuss this. We are discussing the sentencing of Lauren Dickerson. 374 00:17:48,973 --> 00:17:52,573 Speaker 2: Obviously many people were anxious to hear the sentence and 375 00:17:52,613 --> 00:17:55,173 Speaker 2: we're getting huge amount of texts on it. This one 376 00:17:55,213 --> 00:17:58,813 Speaker 2: says Simon and James. Given this country's appalling child abuse statistics, 377 00:17:58,853 --> 00:18:02,613 Speaker 2: this sentence, particularly no non parole period, completely sends the 378 00:18:02,653 --> 00:18:05,293 Speaker 2: wrong message. And this one says, guys, I get that 379 00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:07,733 Speaker 2: it might not be intentional, but if your mind is 380 00:18:07,733 --> 00:18:10,773 Speaker 2: the type that can break even temporarily and do something 381 00:18:10,853 --> 00:18:13,493 Speaker 2: like this, then it can break again and there is 382 00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:14,533 Speaker 2: the inherent risk. 383 00:18:15,253 --> 00:18:18,573 Speaker 8: Hello, Chris calling from Australia. 384 00:18:18,893 --> 00:18:24,573 Speaker 10: My personal opinion is with this woman who has killed 385 00:18:24,853 --> 00:18:30,653 Speaker 10: three people and she gets out after six years or. 386 00:18:30,573 --> 00:18:33,373 Speaker 2: Eight years potentially not guaranteed yet she'll. 387 00:18:33,253 --> 00:18:38,333 Speaker 10: Be potentially the judge has said to take someone's life, 388 00:18:39,013 --> 00:18:44,253 Speaker 10: is only seven hundred days in jail for taking someone's life, 389 00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:48,253 Speaker 10: and I think that absolutely pathetic. She moveded her own 390 00:18:48,373 --> 00:18:52,013 Speaker 10: children and she should be in jail for the rest 391 00:18:52,053 --> 00:18:56,053 Speaker 10: of her life. And I don't care about the mental 392 00:18:56,093 --> 00:18:59,813 Speaker 10: health aspect because if she's mentally ill and has killed 393 00:18:59,853 --> 00:19:04,093 Speaker 10: three of her own it's just disgusting. I wouldn't let 394 00:19:04,133 --> 00:19:04,493 Speaker 10: her out. 395 00:19:04,813 --> 00:19:07,413 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is that she'll be for parole in 396 00:19:07,573 --> 00:19:10,013 Speaker 3: six years, Chris, but it doesn't mean that she will 397 00:19:10,053 --> 00:19:14,373 Speaker 3: be released. She'll be assessed absolutely, and I hope they 398 00:19:14,573 --> 00:19:15,733 Speaker 3: don't fair enough. 399 00:19:15,853 --> 00:19:17,973 Speaker 2: Chris, really do. Thank you for taking the time to 400 00:19:17,973 --> 00:19:20,333 Speaker 2: call from Australia and thanks for listening. I'll hi Joselle. 401 00:19:20,453 --> 00:19:24,653 Speaker 11: Actually, if she's gone a forensic tread facility, then she'll 402 00:19:24,653 --> 00:19:27,293 Speaker 11: be on a forensic statement order, probably for the rest 403 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:30,213 Speaker 11: of her life, which means that after the sixth or 404 00:19:30,213 --> 00:19:33,773 Speaker 11: eight years when she's eligible for parole, she'll probably be 405 00:19:33,893 --> 00:19:37,653 Speaker 11: given mandatory medication for the rest of her life, and 406 00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:41,093 Speaker 11: she'll have to be checking in regularly with the team forever. 407 00:19:42,253 --> 00:19:46,253 Speaker 11: We just don't have the facilities to house Pailiny because 408 00:19:46,653 --> 00:19:50,133 Speaker 11: since the eighties the mental health facilities have closed down. So, 409 00:19:50,773 --> 00:19:54,533 Speaker 11: you know, medication is considered so effective that if somebody's 410 00:19:54,573 --> 00:19:58,853 Speaker 11: put on a regime that they can't voluntarily take themselves off, 411 00:19:58,973 --> 00:20:02,453 Speaker 11: like an injection, then they're not likely to become at 412 00:20:02,533 --> 00:20:05,773 Speaker 11: risk to themselves or other people. It's really difficult to 413 00:20:05,773 --> 00:20:08,853 Speaker 11: get beds psych wards now, so they probably thought, oh, 414 00:20:08,973 --> 00:20:11,613 Speaker 11: she's a white, middle class woman, she's a doctor, she's 415 00:20:11,613 --> 00:20:14,693 Speaker 11: well educated, sull know to get help. But she went 416 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:15,173 Speaker 11: too far. 417 00:20:15,613 --> 00:20:18,213 Speaker 2: So in conclusion, Gazel, people who are committed to a 418 00:20:18,213 --> 00:20:20,573 Speaker 2: mental health facility for a crime like this that they're 419 00:20:20,613 --> 00:20:21,853 Speaker 2: never really free ever. 420 00:20:22,053 --> 00:20:22,893 Speaker 11: Absolutely not. 421 00:20:23,093 --> 00:20:23,173 Speaker 4: No. 422 00:20:23,973 --> 00:20:26,173 Speaker 2: Very good to hear from you, Giselle. Thank you for 423 00:20:26,213 --> 00:20:27,013 Speaker 2: that clarification. 424 00:20:27,773 --> 00:20:31,573 Speaker 1: Chats, laughs, and the best calls. This is the highlight 425 00:20:31,653 --> 00:20:35,293 Speaker 1: reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels Powered Bodies Talk 426 00:20:35,333 --> 00:20:35,573 Speaker 1: sai'd be. 427 00:20:35,773 --> 00:20:39,093 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's a really interesting story the Warriors. Well, 428 00:20:39,133 --> 00:20:43,293 Speaker 2: a guy that's been often a scapegoat for disgruntled fans 429 00:20:43,613 --> 00:20:46,493 Speaker 2: of the Warriors as Shawn Johnson, and there was a 430 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:48,453 Speaker 2: couple of years where he kind of went awol and 431 00:20:48,493 --> 00:20:49,853 Speaker 2: then he got let go by the club, but he 432 00:20:49,933 --> 00:20:52,053 Speaker 2: went somewhere else and dalla la. That's kind of a material. 433 00:20:52,053 --> 00:20:54,413 Speaker 2: But the Warriors last year were amazing. Everybody came on 434 00:20:54,453 --> 00:20:56,013 Speaker 2: board up the Wars. You know how it all took 435 00:20:56,013 --> 00:20:59,093 Speaker 2: off and started off first couple of games the season 436 00:20:59,173 --> 00:21:00,813 Speaker 2: up the Wars was all good. But then the Wars 437 00:21:00,853 --> 00:21:01,373 Speaker 2: have gone. 438 00:21:01,573 --> 00:21:05,213 Speaker 3: Last year he was almost the MVP of the NRL, 439 00:21:05,253 --> 00:21:09,133 Speaker 3: the most valuable player of the NRL. He yeah in 440 00:21:09,173 --> 00:21:12,613 Speaker 3: the DM meddle and you know, everything was hunky. 441 00:21:12,293 --> 00:21:16,253 Speaker 2: Dory, and then culminating in last weekends sixty odd point 442 00:21:16,293 --> 00:21:18,333 Speaker 2: thrashing by a team that was placed pretty much at 443 00:21:18,333 --> 00:21:20,373 Speaker 2: the bottom of the table. They were the bottom, all right, 444 00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:23,253 Speaker 2: So so okay, so it hasn't gone well. Andrew Webbs 445 00:21:23,373 --> 00:21:25,773 Speaker 2: is the coach. I love that guy. He seems really sensible. 446 00:21:25,853 --> 00:21:28,333 Speaker 2: He said, it's just outrageous for fans to blame Sean 447 00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:30,773 Speaker 2: Johnson for the loss. So we're not talking really about 448 00:21:30,773 --> 00:21:32,533 Speaker 2: the game. We're not talking about the Warrior's season, We're 449 00:21:32,533 --> 00:21:34,893 Speaker 2: not talking about the Wars, or it's that the year 450 00:21:35,013 --> 00:21:38,133 Speaker 2: we're talking about Sean Johnson has come out. He's obviously 451 00:21:38,293 --> 00:21:41,093 Speaker 2: it's got to them. The criticism has been once again 452 00:21:41,173 --> 00:21:44,333 Speaker 2: leveled at him as a playmaker, and he posted on 453 00:21:44,373 --> 00:21:48,453 Speaker 2: Instagram a couple of comments and he said this, just 454 00:21:48,613 --> 00:21:51,413 Speaker 2: like you. I see the comments and damn some of 455 00:21:51,453 --> 00:21:54,053 Speaker 2: you are savage. If you are one of those this 456 00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:56,413 Speaker 2: was another post. You're one of those who find comfort 457 00:21:56,453 --> 00:21:59,653 Speaker 2: in slamming others online. I hope everything is okay. Read 458 00:21:59,693 --> 00:22:03,693 Speaker 2: cynicism and another one. Your words don't carry weight this 459 00:22:03,813 --> 00:22:07,173 Speaker 2: time around, but they could for the next you choose 460 00:22:07,213 --> 00:22:10,973 Speaker 2: to spew your negativity on Think before you type. Clearly, 461 00:22:11,013 --> 00:22:13,093 Speaker 2: that's a man that's read some of these comments and 462 00:22:13,133 --> 00:22:16,493 Speaker 2: they've got under his skin. And I would be exactly 463 00:22:16,493 --> 00:22:19,253 Speaker 2: the same as him. And occasionally we get texts and 464 00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:22,653 Speaker 2: here you and I and they're not particularly flattering, and 465 00:22:23,493 --> 00:22:26,613 Speaker 2: it's really hard not to respond. But I guess that 466 00:22:26,853 --> 00:22:28,733 Speaker 2: is the point of a troll. 467 00:22:28,933 --> 00:22:33,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are poking at you and hoping you will react, 468 00:22:33,733 --> 00:22:36,773 Speaker 3: and in this instance, Sean Johnson has And that's what 469 00:22:36,893 --> 00:22:39,893 Speaker 3: takes us to the question, is that a wise thing 470 00:22:39,933 --> 00:22:41,373 Speaker 3: for him to engage. 471 00:22:41,133 --> 00:22:43,813 Speaker 2: Hillary Barry is another one on seven Sharps. She cops 472 00:22:43,853 --> 00:22:46,013 Speaker 2: a lot of abuse and there's been and she's always 473 00:22:46,053 --> 00:22:49,453 Speaker 2: responding to the haters. So is that a smart response, 474 00:22:49,533 --> 00:22:51,293 Speaker 2: is it a good response, is it a wise response? 475 00:22:51,373 --> 00:22:53,373 Speaker 2: Is an appropriate response? Or does any of that matter? 476 00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:55,533 Speaker 2: And just go will screw you. I'm going to get 477 00:22:55,533 --> 00:22:58,333 Speaker 2: you back, which is what Hillary did, Yeah, and what 478 00:22:58,413 --> 00:22:59,333 Speaker 2: Sean's sort of done. 479 00:22:59,453 --> 00:23:02,253 Speaker 3: So I think that you should just let them have 480 00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:06,333 Speaker 3: their free shot. Don't give them the satisfaction of a response, 481 00:23:07,253 --> 00:23:08,253 Speaker 3: make it the earshot. 482 00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:10,693 Speaker 2: I used to always respond because I didn't you know, 483 00:23:10,733 --> 00:23:13,093 Speaker 2: when I was at another radio station, you didn't really 484 00:23:13,093 --> 00:23:15,253 Speaker 2: get much negativity. When you do talk back, you're putting 485 00:23:15,253 --> 00:23:17,013 Speaker 2: a stake in the ground, and yet you attract a 486 00:23:17,053 --> 00:23:19,933 Speaker 2: fearb You're a lightning rod for some negative comments. And 487 00:23:19,973 --> 00:23:22,053 Speaker 2: I used to respond. And then my wife said something. 488 00:23:22,213 --> 00:23:24,693 Speaker 2: But this was back in the day. She was very wise, 489 00:23:25,253 --> 00:23:28,813 Speaker 2: and she said, every time you respond to a text assignment, 490 00:23:29,133 --> 00:23:32,213 Speaker 2: they win, because she knew how competitive I was, and 491 00:23:32,293 --> 00:23:34,453 Speaker 2: so when she said they win, that made me go, hmm. 492 00:23:35,613 --> 00:23:39,573 Speaker 2: So that's kind of my controlling yard stack. 493 00:23:39,213 --> 00:23:41,213 Speaker 3: Bringing you the best of the week. 494 00:23:41,413 --> 00:23:44,573 Speaker 1: You're listening to the highlight Reel with Simon Barnett and 495 00:23:44,693 --> 00:23:46,173 Speaker 1: James Daniels. 496 00:23:45,613 --> 00:23:49,093 Speaker 2: Powered by News Talk sa'd be. Former Green MP Golreas 497 00:23:49,173 --> 00:23:53,773 Speaker 2: Garaman has been convicted and fined for shoplifting charges. The 498 00:23:53,893 --> 00:23:58,013 Speaker 2: judge has imposed fines totaling sixteen hundred dollars and court 499 00:23:58,093 --> 00:24:01,013 Speaker 2: costs of two hundred and sixty dollars. So just repeating 500 00:24:01,013 --> 00:24:03,613 Speaker 2: that former Green MP goal Res Garment has been convicted 501 00:24:03,653 --> 00:24:08,053 Speaker 2: and fined for shoplifting charges. Those find total sixteen one 502 00:24:08,093 --> 00:24:11,333 Speaker 2: thy six hundred dollars and court costs an edition of 503 00:24:11,373 --> 00:24:15,293 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty dollars. Straight away, As you might expect, 504 00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:17,813 Speaker 2: the text machine has lit up. People not happy. What 505 00:24:17,853 --> 00:24:20,573 Speaker 2: a pathetic sentence. She stole nine thousand dollars worth of 506 00:24:20,653 --> 00:24:23,693 Speaker 2: clothing and gets fined sixteen hundred bucks. She'll be eligible 507 00:24:23,693 --> 00:24:26,293 Speaker 2: for a clean slate record in about five years. No accountability, 508 00:24:26,653 --> 00:24:29,413 Speaker 2: what a crock And a bunch of people are saying 509 00:24:29,453 --> 00:24:31,733 Speaker 2: similar sorts of things. Didn't she steal nine thousand dollars 510 00:24:31,813 --> 00:24:32,693 Speaker 2: worth of stuff? 511 00:24:33,053 --> 00:24:33,493 Speaker 3: I think so? 512 00:24:33,653 --> 00:24:35,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think was actually more than that, but it 513 00:24:35,213 --> 00:24:38,013 Speaker 2: was downgraded to under ten k, which means it's a 514 00:24:38,053 --> 00:24:38,973 Speaker 2: less offense. 515 00:24:39,093 --> 00:24:41,893 Speaker 3: If it had been over ten. Valued at over ten, 516 00:24:42,253 --> 00:24:44,693 Speaker 3: then she would have possibly gone to jail. 517 00:24:46,053 --> 00:24:51,493 Speaker 2: That's a freaking joke, is a text. Yeah, yeah, thanks 518 00:24:51,853 --> 00:24:56,053 Speaker 2: every thing I'm saying it. Guys, crime does pay nine 519 00:24:56,133 --> 00:24:58,093 Speaker 2: k worth of good stolen and all you get is 520 00:24:58,133 --> 00:25:00,773 Speaker 2: a tickle on the air. That is just a huge joke. 521 00:25:01,373 --> 00:25:03,813 Speaker 2: And we'll finished with this text. I just cannot believe 522 00:25:04,213 --> 00:25:06,733 Speaker 2: that that's all she gets. Sixteen hundred bucks and court 523 00:25:06,813 --> 00:25:09,933 Speaker 2: costs of two hundred and fifty dollars. That is wrong, 524 00:25:09,973 --> 00:25:14,293 Speaker 2: and that's why these people get a bad reputation an officialdom. 525 00:25:14,493 --> 00:25:16,973 Speaker 2: It seems like it is one rule for one and 526 00:25:17,053 --> 00:25:20,333 Speaker 2: one rule for the high brow. But this text is 527 00:25:20,493 --> 00:25:25,213 Speaker 2: a different view. Guys, I cannot believe, says the text 528 00:25:25,213 --> 00:25:28,973 Speaker 2: to Dan. I cannot believe how vindictive and punitive people are. 529 00:25:29,373 --> 00:25:33,573 Speaker 2: Gorris's life is in tatter's. Her career is probably over. Actually, 530 00:25:33,653 --> 00:25:35,933 Speaker 2: that's the point, because now she did get a conviction. 531 00:25:36,173 --> 00:25:38,253 Speaker 2: There was some suggestion she may have got off without 532 00:25:38,253 --> 00:25:40,773 Speaker 2: a conviction. Now she's been convicted, so I presume she 533 00:25:41,813 --> 00:25:44,733 Speaker 2: can't practice at the bar for some period. The woman's 534 00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:46,653 Speaker 2: life is in tatters, her career is probably over. I 535 00:25:46,653 --> 00:25:49,693 Speaker 2: would speculate this as much more a mental health issue 536 00:25:49,693 --> 00:25:54,653 Speaker 2: than people are suggesting that could ruin her life forever. 537 00:25:55,693 --> 00:25:58,613 Speaker 2: What she did was clearly wrong, but I think the 538 00:25:58,933 --> 00:26:00,213 Speaker 2: fine is the way to go. 539 00:26:00,773 --> 00:26:04,573 Speaker 1: The Highlight Reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels available 540 00:26:04,613 --> 00:26:06,293 Speaker 1: worldwide on iHeartRadio. 541 00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:09,813 Speaker 2: Hey Tyler, if you can hear me or Andrew, I 542 00:26:09,813 --> 00:26:12,973 Speaker 2: don't actually have a song scheduled in my button bar 543 00:26:13,053 --> 00:26:16,253 Speaker 2: here to play, so I could sing I want to 544 00:26:16,253 --> 00:26:17,613 Speaker 2: hold your hand by the Beatles. 545 00:26:17,733 --> 00:26:20,693 Speaker 3: If I had a guitar, I could play that very special. 546 00:26:20,693 --> 00:26:21,973 Speaker 3: Why don't we do it together? 547 00:26:22,693 --> 00:26:25,013 Speaker 2: One? Two three? I want to. 548 00:26:25,013 --> 00:26:31,973 Speaker 3: Hold your hand. I want to hold your hand, and 549 00:26:32,173 --> 00:26:36,933 Speaker 3: when I touch you I feel happy inside. 550 00:26:37,213 --> 00:26:40,053 Speaker 2: Keep going, James, You've got. 551 00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:44,453 Speaker 3: The feeling that my love I can't hide. 552 00:26:45,013 --> 00:26:45,773 Speaker 11: I hold. 553 00:26:48,653 --> 00:26:55,413 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Heah. 554 00:26:54,173 --> 00:26:55,013 Speaker 5: Tell your sounds. 555 00:26:56,613 --> 00:27:02,533 Speaker 2: I think you love thirst time say that sounds. 556 00:27:03,773 --> 00:27:05,373 Speaker 10: I want to hold your hand. 557 00:27:10,613 --> 00:27:14,133 Speaker 2: Oh what a great song. I like the first two 558 00:27:14,213 --> 00:27:16,893 Speaker 2: singers better than that band? Yeah you would Who was 559 00:27:16,933 --> 00:27:19,173 Speaker 2: that band? That's the Beatles, of course, And I want 560 00:27:19,173 --> 00:27:21,053 Speaker 2: to hold your hand This day. In nineteen sixty four, 561 00:27:21,093 --> 00:27:23,973 Speaker 2: Keith Holyoak was Prime Minister of New Zealand. The pubs 562 00:27:24,013 --> 00:27:27,133 Speaker 2: closed at six o'clock. The whole six o'clock swell and 563 00:27:27,253 --> 00:27:30,653 Speaker 2: TV was just in black and white. Recent term performance 564 00:27:30,693 --> 00:27:33,413 Speaker 2: had had been their Vienna Boys, Quiet and Vera Lynn. 565 00:27:33,773 --> 00:27:35,693 Speaker 2: Then came beatle Mania. 566 00:27:35,853 --> 00:27:38,373 Speaker 3: On this day, fifty six years ago, the Beatles played 567 00:27:38,373 --> 00:27:41,973 Speaker 3: two sell out shows at the Dunedin Town Hall as 568 00:27:42,013 --> 00:27:45,133 Speaker 3: part of an eight day four city tour. The two 569 00:27:45,173 --> 00:27:47,413 Speaker 3: concerts in Dunedin were the only ones in New Zealand 570 00:27:47,613 --> 00:27:50,893 Speaker 3: where fans didn't try to rush the stage, but the 571 00:27:50,893 --> 00:27:53,733 Speaker 3: fans did steal the helmets from the police who had 572 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,333 Speaker 3: locked arms in front of the stage and played football 573 00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:59,493 Speaker 3: in the aisles with the helmets. It was a ten 574 00:27:59,653 --> 00:28:03,453 Speaker 3: songs set. It was over in twenty five minutes, and 575 00:28:03,493 --> 00:28:04,613 Speaker 3: it opened. 576 00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:17,413 Speaker 2: With this song Hee It Hey Rale. 577 00:28:17,653 --> 00:28:17,773 Speaker 6: Oh. 578 00:28:17,813 --> 00:28:19,053 Speaker 2: I love those details. 579 00:28:19,173 --> 00:28:22,493 Speaker 4: I didn't realize so twenty five minutes and I one 580 00:28:22,533 --> 00:28:24,653 Speaker 4: thing I've been hearing so many people talk about their 581 00:28:24,773 --> 00:28:26,533 Speaker 4: experiences of going to these concerts. 582 00:28:26,853 --> 00:28:28,333 Speaker 2: How much did a ticket cost? 583 00:28:28,693 --> 00:28:29,533 Speaker 4: Does anybody know? 584 00:28:29,973 --> 00:28:30,613 Speaker 2: Good question. 585 00:28:30,973 --> 00:28:33,493 Speaker 4: Tickets to the Beatles shows were priced from one pound 586 00:28:33,573 --> 00:28:36,573 Speaker 4: nine and six to two pounds ten and six, which 587 00:28:36,573 --> 00:28:39,613 Speaker 4: in twenty thirteen dollars would have been between sixty and 588 00:28:39,733 --> 00:28:42,413 Speaker 4: one hundred dollars to go and see the beetles for 589 00:28:42,453 --> 00:28:43,613 Speaker 4: twenty five minutes. 590 00:28:44,653 --> 00:28:48,213 Speaker 1: For more from Simon Barnett and James Daniel's Afternoons, listen 591 00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:51,173 Speaker 1: live to News Talks ed B or follow the podcast 592 00:28:51,253 --> 00:28:52,293 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio