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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin friends to find the real story.

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Speaker 2: Or here's Ryan Bridge on Heather Duper c Ellen Drive

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Speaker 2: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 3: The'd be good afternoon seven after four, great to have

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Speaker 3: The government is resurrecting ten polytechs from the dead, which

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Speaker 3: is a big win for the regions. That's our lead

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Speaker 3: after five Slash and Tasman will look at that. Paul

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Speaker 3: Gallon on his actual beef with Sonny, Bill Williams Nicola

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Speaker 3: Willis on the cost of living. Barry Soaper is back

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Speaker 3: in the building after his opportunity leave. And what is

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Speaker 3: Trump's big Russia announcement that he's teasing? Is it even

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Speaker 3: big and is it even real? We'll get to the

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Speaker 3: bottom of that one.

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Speaker 1: Too, Brian Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with Trump this afternoon actually and tariff's and strategy.

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Speaker 3: Unlike China and the EU, you may have noticed, we've

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Speaker 3: taken the path of least resistance on Trump's tariffs. We're

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Speaker 3: basically just bending over and taking whatever rate he slaps

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Speaker 3: on our exports. Right, that's the plan, the logic. We're

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Speaker 3: a small country. We need them more than they need us.

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Speaker 3: Let's just chill out, hope that nobody notices us down

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Speaker 3: here at the bottom of the Pacific, which so far,

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Speaker 3: in relative terms, has served us pretty well. Our exporters

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Speaker 3: this a few weeks ago. You know, are we even

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Speaker 3: trying to negotiate a lower tariff rate than ten percent?

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Speaker 3: Or we just taking the base rate and be done

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Speaker 3: with it. He said, We're basically happy with ten percent.

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Speaker 3: and the problem for us about this is twofold one. Well,

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Speaker 3: Trump before with no follow through. Markets read them as

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Speaker 3: chickens out because he doesn't follow through. But the second

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Speaker 3: and most important one. If our rate doubles to twenty percent,

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Speaker 3: then our second largest export market starts to feel a

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Speaker 3: little shaky a bit squeezed. Twenty percent on our wine

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Speaker 3: and meat sounds much worse than ten, doesn't it. But

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Speaker 3: here's why the government's probably made the right calculation. Tariff's

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Speaker 3: are all relative, aren't they. So unless some other country

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Speaker 3: so long as that holds true, then the current strategy

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Speaker 3: is probably on balance. The right one Gray and Bridge time.

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Speaker 3: It's nine after four. The numbers text student results are

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Speaker 3: improving in the NCAA numeracy and literacy tests. Mass is

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Speaker 3: going gangbusters, but reading up only slightly or flat. Same

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Speaker 3: with So I've got the numbers here for you. Actually,

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Speaker 3: fifty seven percent of students across all year levels have

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Speaker 3: and fifty five percent have passed the writing. Now, these

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Speaker 3: and is with us now. Minister, good afternoon, Good afternoon, Ran.

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Speaker 1: How are you I I'm.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you what you'll be pleased with these? Are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yes we do. But the results themselves, on

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Speaker 3: that's like a fifteen percent improvement. How do you do

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Speaker 5: But it's also the focus we've had in the last

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Speaker 5: No, Well, look there's been a Look, there's been some

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, appreciate your time, Minister, Erica Stanford, Education Minister.

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Speaker 3: this is from Murray. I'm sorry, I'm m kiwei. What

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Speaker 3: have you on so well. Do you think Raiser followed

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Speaker 7: And you and I are both like first language English

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Speaker 3: Know that this should be an easy question for us answer,

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Speaker 2: Getting the facts, discarding the fluff. It's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 3: They'd be four twenty four news talks. He'd be Donald

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Speaker 8: Surprised a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: He talks nice and that he bums.

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Speaker 8: Everybody in the evening, But there's a little bit of

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Speaker 9: Union is paying for it.

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Speaker 10: We're not paying anything for it, but we will send it.

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Speaker 1: It'll be business for us.

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Speaker 3: the most interesting thing that's happening this afternoon. Everybody seems

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Speaker 1: He said, Hi, nice to meet you too.

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Speaker 11: Nogle good afternoon twenty five away from the five News

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Speaker 3: Also, we're going to look this afternoon, actually after six thirty,

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Speaker 3: How true that is? After six thirty this evening, it's.

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Speaker 3: He'd be drive the U are sending more weapons to Ukraine.

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Speaker 6: And you're doctor so beautifully and then I'll bum people

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Speaker 3: We don't like that. Ten people, most of them children,

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Speaker 3: And finally this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: When they come forward.

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Speaker 3: A woman in Arizona was shocked when the police showed

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Speaker 3: up at her front door with a pizza. Brandy had

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Speaker 3: Business Day two of Elbow's tripped to China and Oliver

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Speaker 14: He's had a big press conference just a short time

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Speaker 14: and he had standing next to him today Andrew Forrest

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Speaker 14: of ford Eskew Metals. They're part of a trade talk,

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating that because the reporters are going, will you

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Speaker 14: They've accidentally leaked this treasury advice saying that we should

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Speaker 3: Ryan Boo's not so good apparently. Well there's a push

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and this is this is actually a trend which

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Speaker 3: Sold the legal cigarettes, the.

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Speaker 14: Dangers that could be doing to your body in the

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Speaker 14: to be putting even more labeling on our beers and

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Speaker 14: our bottles are wine. But I'm sure it'll happen eventually, Ryan,

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Speaker 14: And you know, that's just what the public health lobby groups.

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Speaker 7: Like to promote.

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Speaker 3: Just the way the world goes, isn't it, Ollie, thank you?

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Speaker 3: Does it stop us drinking beer?

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Speaker 1: Probably not?

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Speaker 3: Olive OLLI pedison with ours six pr pers life present

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Speaker 3: to time as nineteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Bryant Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Here there is arendid storage in the rounds today about

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Speaker 3: our alcohol guidelines, stating that we're understating the health risks

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Speaker 3: of drinking beer and wine and any form of booze. Basically,

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Speaker 3: so our drinking guidelines say that we should stick to

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Speaker 3: low risk drinking. Men should have no more than fifteen

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Speaker 3: standard drinks a week. Women you're allowed ten, which is

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Speaker 3: sexist from the outset, but we'll overlook that for a second.

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Speaker 3: The maximum number of drinks recommended per week and Canada

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Speaker 3: is two, Australia ten and in the UK fourteen. So

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Speaker 3: we are we're allowed more than anyone else, which that's

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Speaker 3: why you come and live in New Zealand, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the things we've got going for us.

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Speaker 3: But fifteen drinks a week? Is that all at once?

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Speaker 3: You know it is for me, and that's just Friday,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. But rather if you spread it over, presumably

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Speaker 3: better for your body to spread it over the world

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Speaker 3: week than just all at once.

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Speaker 7: We'll probably better for your body not to do it

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Speaker 7: in the first moment, that's the point.

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Speaker 3: That's true. God, you wouldn't want to live in Canada.

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 3: They do have legal marijuana there, don't they. So they're

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Speaker 3: probably all off their rockers on cannabis, i'd imagine, and

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Speaker 3: two bears will do them. Eighteen away from five. Barry

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Speaker 3: soaper back.

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Speaker 2: Next politics was centric credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: News talk, said b. Barry Soapas back in the building, Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon.

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Speaker 9: Well, I left the building three months ago, Ryan, and

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Speaker 9: it seems as though honestly sitting here that have never

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Speaker 9: been away.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking I was here filling in for

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Speaker 3: Hither when you left. It's right, there's a weird little

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Speaker 3: merry go round.

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Speaker 9: She was doing the parental leave then, and I was

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Speaker 9: doing it the last three months. And I've got to

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Speaker 9: say I loved it. I loved it with a three

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Speaker 9: year old and a little one now was six months. Fantastic.

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Speaker 9: And I'd recommend to any mail if they can do it,

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Speaker 9: do it, because you get much more out of it

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Speaker 9: than you would ever think you would get.

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Speaker 3: You're not worn out, best.

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Speaker 9: No, I just love it, even though you do get

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Speaker 9: worn out. I really love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice Hey, the government is bringing reviving back from

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Speaker 3: the dead. Polytechs ten of them will return from January first.

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Speaker 9: It's incredible, isn't it really when you think to Pukinga

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Speaker 9: was Chris Hopkin's brainchild, and you know he went on

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Speaker 9: and on about it. It was going to come under

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Speaker 9: one governing body run from Wellington, and that's what happened,

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Speaker 9: of course, and it was set up, no doubt, at

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Speaker 9: great expense. I haven't got the numbers in front of me,

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Speaker 9: but now we're going to have regional polytechs back again.

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Speaker 9: There used to be sixteen or now be ten. So

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Speaker 9: there'll be a few that will fall by the wayside,

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Speaker 9: noe up merge with others. But the Prime Minister he

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Speaker 9: outlined the rationale for the restored regionally governed polytechs.

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Speaker 15: Here he is well mean that decisions once again are

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Speaker 15: made closer to the people that they affect. And that's

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Speaker 15: what regional strength looks like, not decisions headed down to

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Speaker 15: them from Wellington, but real input from local leaders, local

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Speaker 15: employers and local educators. Let me be clear, this isn't

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Speaker 15: just about structures. It's about outcomes, better outcomes for the

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Speaker 15: more than two hundred and fifty thousand students participating in

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Speaker 15: vocational education each and every year. These changes are designed

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Speaker 15: to make the system more flexible, more financially sustainable, and

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Speaker 15: more relevant to the employment opportunities available in each region.

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Speaker 9: I think that last point is the main point that

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Speaker 9: employers have been complaining that people are going through Polytech

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Speaker 9: and they're not being they're not studying what is required

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Speaker 9: in the region. I mean, like the Otago Polytech had

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Speaker 9: home brewing. Now you and I would have loved to

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Speaker 9: have gone to that, that course that had her pop

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Speaker 9: at one stage somewhere as well, I seem to remember.

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Speaker 3: And the other problem they had with tapuoking is you

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Speaker 3: go and market these these politechs to the world and

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Speaker 3: no one knows what tapooking is, you know, so they

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Speaker 3: have this problem of what the hell is that.

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Speaker 9: It's good for the international student drive.

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Speaker 3: Exactly fantastic. Hey, the UN being accused of hearing in

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Speaker 3: our sovereignty.

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Speaker 9: Well yeah, and I think I think David Seymour is

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Speaker 9: right in this. I mean I looked today and I thought,

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Speaker 9: you know, this greater morphous body that you've been to

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Speaker 9: I've been too many times at the UN General Assembly.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, you look at it and you

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Speaker 9: think this is such a bath structure. Well, it's fast,

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Speaker 9: all right, because I looked up how many employees the

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Speaker 9: UN has. It's got wait for it, one hundred and

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Speaker 9: thirty thousand thousand employees around the world. But in New

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Speaker 9: York alone, at the secretariat there they have about the

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Speaker 9: size of the population of Upper Hut. Thirty seven thousand

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Speaker 9: people are working there. In New Zealand, we contribute about

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Speaker 9: fifty million dollars a year, but it was New Zealand.

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Speaker 9: Of course, that can take some blame for the UN,

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Speaker 9: not for the way it's totally impotent at the moment,

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Speaker 9: but it can take some blame because we were one

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Speaker 9: of the original founders of the United Nations in nineteen

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Speaker 9: forty eight when it was set up. But the point

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Speaker 9: is that a special rapperteur has written to the government

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Speaker 9: a chapter the name of Albert bah Room, and he

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Speaker 9: said he's concerned about the Regulatory Standards Bill. He said

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Speaker 9: it threatens Moldy specific laws and addresses structural inequalities and

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Speaker 9: he says, for example, land language and environmental stewardship are

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Speaker 9: all at risk because of this bill. Well, basically, David

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Speaker 9: Seymour says, mind your own bloody business, don't involve yourself

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Speaker 9: and our sovereignty and you know, we don't have to

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Speaker 9: sign up to any indigenous people's rights and in fact,

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Speaker 9: even though we've signed it, we don't have to implement it.

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Speaker 9: By Lord John Key talk long and hard about that

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Speaker 9: when he was Prime Minister. And I think mister Bahroom

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Speaker 9: should become more familiar with what New Zealand and what

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Speaker 9: our status is when it comes to the UN.

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Speaker 3: Also, you know, there's one big job and it's world peace.

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Speaker 3: Maybe focus on that.

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Speaker 9: Tell Donald Trump not to not to continue his bombing.

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Speaker 3: Same with Now we've got a date for the by election, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: September the.

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Speaker 9: Sixth, and I'm heartened by the fact that. And I

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Speaker 9: don't know her at all, but a former journalist and

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Speaker 9: broadcaster Irene Kaypera. You remember she got into some trouble

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Speaker 9: for wearing a mochu or she got it done and

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Speaker 9: some people were saying she shouldn't be presenting the news.

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Speaker 9: I think she was working for TV three for a

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Speaker 9: while at the time.

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Speaker 3: She was here. She was at TV and ZI when

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Speaker 3: the when the complaints rolled out about the time, and

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Speaker 3: then she moved to TV three. I worked with her

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Speaker 3: for a couple of years. Yes, absolutely brilliant woman.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm heartened by the fact that she's going if

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Speaker 9: she does get to represent it, and I have my

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Speaker 9: doubts about that. You think he is back in the

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Speaker 9: race and.

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Speaker 3: He lost Penny, Well, he penies, sorry to you, that's.

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Speaker 9: Exactly toes come out of the depth recession of the

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Speaker 9: Far North. But no, so yeah, hanare Penny? Henare he's

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Speaker 9: going to stand? He only lost the seat by forty

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Speaker 9: two votes the last time he had held it for

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Speaker 9: more than a decade, So look, she's going to have

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Speaker 9: a better trouble. But if she does get in, let's

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Speaker 9: hope she can breathe some media sense into the Maldi

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Speaker 9: party and tell them what they should and shouldn't be

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Speaker 9: doing when it comes to public perception.

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Speaker 3: She's a really steady pair of hair, like she's not.

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Speaker 3: She's not one to get carried away with emotion. She

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be one to be following the co leaders into

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Speaker 3: the depths of a protest or test. Yeah, I actually

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Speaker 3: think it would be really interesting to see how. I

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Speaker 3: hope that she does win, just because I like her

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Speaker 3: and she's a friend.

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Speaker 9: Don't you like Penny?

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Speaker 3: He's all right, he's a right but I like order anymore.

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Speaker 3: But I'd just be really interested to see what the

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Speaker 3: multi party Malori would look like with her sort of

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Speaker 3: you know, at the front of it. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 3: completely different.

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Speaker 9: It's a beautiful woman, that's what you're trying to say

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Speaker 9: she is.

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Speaker 3: She's a beautifuloman. She's got a really good heart. Yes, good, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm good to see your very faces. So you doo

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Speaker 3: very Soper politics every day here on news Talk CREDB.

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Speaker 3: It's eight to five.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

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Speaker 16: Breakfast, we have Prime Minister Christopher Luxan, what are you

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Speaker 16: going to do about the brain drain? It's eighteen months then, right,

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Speaker 16: so I feel like at this stage they are leaving

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Speaker 16: because you haven't changed things yet.

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Speaker 15: Well, we're dealing with the biggest recessions we've had since

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Speaker 15: the early nineties.

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Speaker 3: That's been clear about.

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Speaker 15: It's been worse than the GFC.

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Speaker 16: But apart from the slogans, what have you actually done? Absolutely,

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Speaker 16: you gave the tax concession and the budget.

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Speaker 15: Well he's amazing, right, If you really care about people

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Speaker 15: in low and middle income working news illiness, you run

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Speaker 15: the economy well, so you don't increase government spending.

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Speaker 3: Eighty four percent that drives inflation to seven point.

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Speaker 1: We haven't really increased it very much.

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Speaker 3: Have you.

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Speaker 15: Well, we have actually we've actually saved twenty three billion

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Speaker 15: dollars last year, twenty one billion this year.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupe for see Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow at six am with the land Rover Discovery

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Speaker 2: on News Talks.

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Speaker 3: End the News Talks, there'd be it's five minutes away

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Speaker 3: from five. Paul Gallon and sunny Bill Williams have been

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Speaker 3: going at it like you know, hell for leather at

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Speaker 3: a press conference today. Will speak to Paul Gallen after five.

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Speaker 3: He is going to be joining us from Australia ahead

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Speaker 3: of their fight. Also, Penny Simmons, Tertiary Education Minister. They're

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Speaker 3: resurrecting the regional polytechs, not all of them, as Barrier

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Speaker 3: said to us earlier, but ten of them will be resurrected,

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Speaker 3: and too Pookinger will be put to bed, so we'll

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Speaker 3: talk to her about why what how much that's going

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Speaker 3: to cost. You know, once you set up to Pokinger,

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Speaker 3: how many millions is that? And then you just established

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Speaker 3: a poking how many millions is that? And are these organizations,

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Speaker 3: these regional politics actually in the space and got the

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Speaker 3: capacity to revive themselves by January first, which is the

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Speaker 3: date that they have set.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I always look at this Wall Street Journal survey. It's

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Speaker 3: a quarterly survey of forecasters. It's like the forecasters forecast

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Speaker 3: of the economy. It's like the pole of polls that

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Speaker 3: we have here in New Zealand. So our survey that

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Speaker 3: they did was peak Liberation Day Mayhem with Trump and

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Speaker 3: his tariffs. Since then, all the forecasters, all the pundits

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Speaker 3: have calmed the farm a little bit, which is good news.

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Speaker 3: They're now predicting in the latest quarterly update, stronger growth

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Speaker 3: than they did last one, lower recession risk than they

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Speaker 3: did the last one, lower inflation risk than they did

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Speaker 3: the last one, which is all good for the US economy,

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Speaker 3: which means all good for the global economy, but still

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Speaker 3: not better than pre trade war. So GDP they reckon

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Speaker 3: will be up one percent in quarter four. That's an

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Speaker 3: increase from point eight in April, but half of what

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Speaker 3: they expected in January. Same goes for probability of recession

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Speaker 3: and the next twelve months thirty three percent they reckon.

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Speaker 3: That's down from forty five percent in April. That's good,

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Speaker 3: but still higher than what they predicted in January, which

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Speaker 3: was just twenty two percent. So basically the world not

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Speaker 3: as mad as they thought it was last quarter when

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Speaker 3: Trump announced the tariffs, but not as good as it

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Speaker 3: was the one before that. Three to five News talks'll

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Speaker 3: be Pennyman's after.

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Speaker 13: News Questions, Answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on Heather dup c Allen Drive with One

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Let's Get Connected.

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Speaker 3: News Talks at B seven After five News Talks, Aid B.

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Speaker 3: The government's returning ten polytechnics into local hands from next year.

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Speaker 3: It's the latest move to unwind the previous government centralized

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Speaker 3: mega institute that was tapooking. You might have heard of it.

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Speaker 3: It's going from January first, Southern Institute of Technology, why

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Speaker 3: Cutter Institute of Technology, un Tech, Institute of Technology and

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Speaker 3: Otago among others will return. Penny Simmons is the Minister

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Speaker 3: for Vocational Education. Minister, good evening, Good evening, Ryan. So

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Speaker 3: we did the topooking a thing because the politics weren't working,

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Speaker 3: and now we're undoing that and the polytechs are back

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Speaker 3: why will they work this time?

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Speaker 17: Well, many of them were working, but there was financial

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Speaker 17: work that needed to be undertaken. We've done that. We've

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Speaker 17: had financial advisors in with each of the polytechnics over

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Speaker 17: the last year plotting a pathway to financial viability. They

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Speaker 17: are now following that pathway. These ten that are going

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Speaker 17: to be stood up of following that pathway to viability.

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Speaker 17: This is work that should have happened five or six

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Speaker 17: years ago. It's happened now and they are getting rid

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Speaker 17: of the wasteful spending. They are getting themselves back on

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Speaker 17: track to be sustainable.

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Speaker 3: What were they spending money on?

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Speaker 17: Oh, look at was really looking through their course offerings

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Speaker 17: where they are offering things that didn't have enough students

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Speaker 17: in them, so the programs weren't viable and so having

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Speaker 17: to work through or that in some instances down as

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Speaker 17: low as two or three people in the course and

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Speaker 17: they were still running them.

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Speaker 3: How many univers how many politics were doing that?

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Speaker 17: Oh, that would be quite wide ranging across the polytech system.

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Speaker 17: So that sort of work had to be done. It

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Speaker 17: should have always been done in the polytechnics that were

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Speaker 17: financially viable. It was being done as a matter of course,

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Speaker 17: but some that had got themselves in trouble just weren't

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Speaker 17: in that financial discipline.

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Speaker 3: We're paying attention. So have you written it into the

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Speaker 3: rules that that cannot happen? You know? Do they have

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Speaker 3: to constantly review and if there are classes with two

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Speaker 3: or three people in them then they must cancel.

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Speaker 17: So what's written into the legislation is that if polytechnics

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Speaker 17: are not financially sustainable, there are there is provision for

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Speaker 17: mergers and closures. So they have been given these pathways

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Speaker 17: to financial viability. They've been worked through with financial advisors

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Speaker 17: and the senior management team. They will have local councils appointed,

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Speaker 17: local management appoint it. It's up to them to make

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Speaker 17: sure they stick the par.

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Speaker 3: When's when you say when they get viable? When is

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Speaker 3: that for all of them?

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Speaker 17: Look, most of them it's next year. It's next year

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Speaker 17: or twenty twenty seven. There's some that have got a

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Speaker 17: very small death sit next year, but most next year

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Speaker 17: or twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: What's it cost us taxpayer all up to go full

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Speaker 3: to pooking and then unwind.

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Speaker 17: Look it cost well, the previous government spent over three

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Speaker 17: hundred million on it. We are using money that is

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Speaker 17: in reserves in tapooking at plus a small one or

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Speaker 17: small a contingency fund that the Minister of Finance has

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Speaker 17: made available.

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Speaker 3: Would you say, Minister, that's three hundred million dollars down the.

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Speaker 17: Drain pretty much wasted. Yes, because there's nothing to see

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Speaker 17: for it. They didn't do the work getting their financial pathways.

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Speaker 17: They didn't do the work in selling off assets that

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Speaker 17: aren't needed. There's over one hundred million dollars worth of

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Speaker 17: assets that aren't needed that will be sold off over

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Speaker 17: the next couple of years. That's part of that financial

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Speaker 17: viability pathway. You shouldn't have more assets than you need

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Speaker 17: to have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, minister, appreciate your time. Penny Simmons, Minister for Vocational Education.

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Speaker 3: Three hundred million dollars a lot of money, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Ten After five rich Chairsman District flooding and now Slash

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Speaker 3: massive landslides causing widespread destruction. You would have seen the

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Speaker 3: images on your TV, on your phone, tons of logs

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Speaker 3: creating a dam and flooding people's homes. This is particularly

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Speaker 3: bad in Nazi Morti a resident. There's Steff Jewelers with me.

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Speaker 3: Now Hi steffuh hi man, Hello, Hello, good to have

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Speaker 3: you on the phone, Tell me what's it been like

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Speaker 3: this time.

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Speaker 18: I haven't been here all day. For the afternoon, I've

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Speaker 18: been helping dig mud out of my neighbor's garage. And

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Speaker 18: I know that not far away there are people with

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Speaker 18: large and small machines digging mud from other people's gardens

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Speaker 18: and livelihoods, and we're all just doing what we fail.

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Speaker 18: And on the medium scale, the local pine industry, which

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Speaker 18: I think as Tasman pine, has been clearing some of

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Speaker 18: those log gems sort of further up the little streams

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Speaker 18: that I live up, and so it's all happening. As

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Speaker 18: soon as I wake, it's the sound of machinery.

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Speaker 3: And this is not the first time you had the

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Speaker 3: same problem with Geta.

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Speaker 18: Oh yes, and before that in the early nineties, might

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Speaker 18: have been nineteen ninety with Cyclone Bola. The area the

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Speaker 18: Moderiker Valley is famous for its particular kind of loose

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Speaker 18: granite called separation point granite. Bloom here is that it

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Speaker 18: should never have a monocrop of pine plantation on the

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Speaker 18: steeper slopes. Were not against the pine plantation, but it

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Speaker 18: shouldn't be on those steeper slopes.

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Speaker 3: Have you spoken? You said that there was one of

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Speaker 3: the pine companies there today help and clean up. Well,

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Speaker 3: do you speak to them about it? What do they say?

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Speaker 18: No, I haven't spoken to them about it. You know,

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Speaker 18: they're very helpful around here. They've been up the top

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Speaker 18: of Greenhole Road before because it keeps on coming down

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Speaker 18: when we get a big rain. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 18: a it's a very multifaceted problem. The pine forest is

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Speaker 18: one part of the problem, and the huge rains which

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Speaker 18: are increasing with global warming are another part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: Steve, how do people feel in Nati Multi today, todde.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think very glad to have had a sunny day,

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Speaker 18: exhausted from the massive effort of helping each other that

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Speaker 18: everybody is making. You know that all the people who

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Speaker 18: are around here, everyone's been helping each other and this

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Speaker 18: is the lovely time we get to know each other

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Speaker 18: in politics don't matter. The color of your stripe is

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Speaker 18: irrelevant at this time.

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Speaker 3: Steph. Appreciate you coming on the program and explaining that

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Speaker 3: to us. Keep up the hard work. Steff Juell is

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Speaker 3: a resident of Nati Molti, which has been hit by

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Speaker 3: slash again thirteen after five news talks there. B Sonny

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Speaker 3: Bill Williams Paul Gallon, Is it real? You know, the

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Speaker 3: back and forth, the brew haha, that he's taking drugs.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to smash his lights out. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure they do want to smash each other's lights out,

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Speaker 3: But how much do they really hate each other? Paul

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Speaker 3: the whole weird email situation that we spoke about on Friday.

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Speaker 3: So basically the hero runs a story saying there was

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Speaker 3: an email sent from ray Chang to three other counselors

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Speaker 3: private email address by the way, but a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago that talks about Tory Faro, a rumor going

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Speaker 3: around Tory Farna having some wild sex and some potential

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Speaker 3: drug taking. Anyway, this gets leaked to the Herald. Ray

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Speaker 3: Chung then in the firing line, and actually we spoke

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Speaker 3: to him on Friday. This was part of the interview

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Speaker 3: which was in relation to the alleged drug taking and Orgys.

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Speaker 3: You ever had any drugs all done on the orgy's ray?

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Speaker 3: Oh never, Sadley, would you like to have Well, the

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Speaker 3: opportunity has never been there. So just weird, right, Just

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Speaker 3: the weirdest interview I've ever conducted. And today the fallout continues.

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Speaker 3: Wellington City Council's Crown Observer. You know, the government appoints

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Speaker 3: the crowd Observer to sort out the council. They he

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Speaker 3: is involved raising it with the local government minister's office.

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Speaker 3: So we've got a minister's office involved in this story

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Speaker 3: now and the CEO of Wellington City Council investigating a

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Speaker 3: possible code of conduct breach. Good luck Wellington, nineteen after five,

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge. Now the countdown is onto the big fight

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Speaker 3: between Sonny Bill Williams and Paul Gallon. It's this Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Things already got heated during a press conference today in

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Speaker 3: which Sonny Bill accused Paul Gallon of being a drugs cheat,

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Speaker 3: and Paul Gallan hit back by calling Sonney Bell a scumbag.

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Speaker 3: Paul Gallon is with us from Sydney. Hello, how may

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Speaker 3: they ask?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good, Hey, what's gonna happen with this fight?

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Speaker 8: Sorry made cop arm man. I'm to win. I've been

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Speaker 8: trained to hard, prepared well and got to get out

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Speaker 8: there on the night and did I trying to do?

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Speaker 8: And but I do that, I'll win.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you guys really hate each other?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? I understand there's no mission, there's nothing made about this.

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Speaker 8: We don't like each other at all. And yeah, I

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Speaker 8: can't see even as will fight us ever breaking bread.

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Speaker 8: So that's wise.

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Speaker 3: Because I interviewed Sunny Bill Williams a couple or maybe

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Speaker 3: a month ago now, and he sort of said it

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Speaker 3: was Siriah. But then I didn't really know whether to

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Speaker 3: take him seriously or not. It's not all an act.

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Speaker 8: No, there's no acting going on or not.

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Speaker 3: We don't like you to what don't you like about him?

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Speaker 8: Oh, we're going to sound like, well, he's done in

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Speaker 8: the past as far as you're walking down the bulldogs

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Speaker 8: and I stand, he's way from his last I know

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Speaker 8: he was young man at the time, but then I

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Speaker 8: think you look at the preparation for his fight and

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Speaker 8: what's having his fight again. He's done what he wanted

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Speaker 8: to do by making a timing around. So rather than

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Speaker 8: a bit of honor and respect for the sport, he

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Speaker 8: just does what suits him. So he hasn't changed it

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Speaker 8: all as a person.

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Speaker 3: What about the drugs? He keeps going on, You've got

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Speaker 3: drugs in your system? What's that about?

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Speaker 8: They have to ask him, But there's no drugs in

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Speaker 8: my system made I'm not quite happy to get rug

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Speaker 8: tests at any stage.

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Speaker 3: Does it make you more fired up when you hear

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Speaker 3: him talk like that?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 8: Nothing, nothing, Nothing he says makes you fight up or

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Speaker 8: bothers me emotionally at all. This is a business to me,

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Speaker 8: and now I thought he is on Wednday Night's a

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Speaker 8: business and I'm going to get him there do the

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Speaker 8: job of trying to do and get paid and go.

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Speaker 3: On, what do you get paid for something like that?

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Speaker 8: That's my business, not yours.

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Speaker 3: People want to know, though, don't they.

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Speaker 8: No one's really asking you have a first person, that's

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Speaker 8: what we're getting paid?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Well are you getting getting paid the same? Is

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Speaker 3: it even stevens the percentage?

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Speaker 8: But even yet?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you'll both be rich.

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Speaker 8: Who knows if it sells, well, we'll do.

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Speaker 3: Ak okay, all right, Paul, appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: Paul Gallon, Australian former rugby league player, apparently going to

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Speaker 3: Knox something Bill Williams for six You can watch the

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Speaker 3: to make these guys loaded even more loaded this Wednesday

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Speaker 3: nine twenty one minutes after five. You know, when you

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Speaker 3: go when you're driving along and a bus pulls out

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Speaker 3: of a bus stop in front of you, is that

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Speaker 3: legal or not? I have some words on that.

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Speaker 1: Next checking the point of the story.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge on hither to see Ellen drive with

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand let's get connected and news talks, they'd

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Speaker 2: be five.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four on news talks, they'd be put your hand up.

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Speaker 3: If you have ever had a bus suddenly pull out

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Speaker 3: in front of your car while you're driving along the

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Speaker 3: road minding your own beeswax. It's a stupid thing to

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Speaker 3: say because I can't see your hand, obviously, but I'm

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Speaker 3: assuming you are putting your hand in the air right now.

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Speaker 3: It's happened to everyone. They're quite long things, aren't they buses,

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Speaker 3: So you can be halfway past one when they pull

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Speaker 3: out all of a sudden you're slamming on your brakes,

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Speaker 3: or worse, more dangerous, they're pushing you into the wrong

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Speaker 3: lane into oncoming traffic. Now I don't mind admitting that

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Speaker 3: until this morning, I had assumed that buses must have

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Speaker 3: had the right of way.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: They quite take no prisoners, have no mercy, ruthless as

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Speaker 3: the Abs against the French at the Caketon on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: But I was reading an article this morning from the

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Speaker 3: spin Off about a bunch of changes to road rules

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Speaker 3: that Chris Bishop is going to enact. Once to act

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Speaker 3: One of them is giving buses right of way when

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Speaker 3: they're exiting bus stops, so if you're driving a car,

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Speaker 3: you must give way yield. The theory is buses carry

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Speaker 3: more passengers. If we prioritize buses, more people get them,

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Speaker 3: productivity increases, blah blah blah. And you know what, I

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Speaker 3: can understand that. In fact, I can get on board

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Speaker 3: with that. It makes sense. I sort of thought it

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Speaker 3: was the rule anyway, so I'm not really that bothered

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Speaker 3: by it, to be honest with you. It's out for

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Speaker 3: consultation that by the way. But if we mostarists are

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Speaker 3: going to do something nice for the buses, then I

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Speaker 3: want something in return. I want those stupid green bus

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Speaker 3: lanes that sit empty for most of the day is

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Speaker 3: the traffic piles up around. I want them back. I

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Speaker 3: want those bus lanes back for US car users. I

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Speaker 3: want us to reclaim the road for people who are

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Speaker 3: actually using it at the time that they're using it.

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Speaker 3: I understand the need for the rush hour, you know,

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Speaker 3: the peak hour bus lanes, but I don't understand why

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Speaker 3: they must be bus lanes twenty four seven when they're

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Speaker 3: one not being used by buses and two causing massive delays,

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Speaker 3: inconvenience and lost productivity to everybody else on the road.

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Speaker 3: The default position is that bus lanes are twenty four

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Speaker 3: seven unless they're signposted otherwise. And the one in particular

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Speaker 3: that really rips MI ninety is in central Auckland and

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Speaker 3: most of them they are twenty four to seven. So

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Speaker 3: I do to know is this just me? Does anybody

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Speaker 3: else have this problem? Or am I just another selfish

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Speaker 3: motorist fuming in midday traffic Ranbridge News Talks HEDB twenty

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Speaker 3: seven after five nine two nine two is the number

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Speaker 3: of the text? Love your views on that one? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop, I was quite surprised. There's a few changes,

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Speaker 3: he announcing back in June. This was one of them,

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Speaker 3: and they're out for consultation. I think we'll be consulting

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Speaker 3: through till twenty twenty six, a decision by midnext year.

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Speaker 3: Josie b BEGANI Trisherson on the huddle after news News

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Speaker 3: Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan first.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen drive with one

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Speaker 2: New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 20: They'd be.

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Speaker 1: Coming please Uncle Polish.

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Speaker 3: Good evening twenty five away from six year. On news talks,

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Speaker 3: they'd been Nichola Willis, Finance Minister. You know who she is.

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Speaker 3: What's happening with the cost of living? Still quite expensive,

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Speaker 3: isn't it? What have they actually done about it? We'll

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Speaker 3: ask her those questions after six this evening, and Joseph

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Speaker 3: Guarni and Trish Huson are on the huddle in just

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Speaker 3: a few moments time. Stay tuned, Brian Bridge, it's tough

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Speaker 3: to be a young job seeker right now. Sixteen percent

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Speaker 3: of the fifteen to twenty four year olds in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand currently out of work, sixteen percent. Gen Z economist

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Speaker 3: Brad Olsen from Informetric spoke to Nick Mills about this

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Speaker 3: issue on news talks. They'd be Wellington Mornings earlier today.

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Speaker 7: We know that if you're under thirty, your job chances,

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Speaker 7: your job opportunities are just so much more heavier hits

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Speaker 7: than any other part of the economy.

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Speaker 3: Mark Giller, director of the New Zealand Careers expot with me. Now, Hey, Mark, Hey,

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Speaker 3: how are you right? Yeah? Good, thank you, Good to

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Speaker 3: have you on the program. How tough is it out

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Speaker 3: How tough is it out there for people? Young people.

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Speaker 19: Oh, look, it's obviously very tough. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 19: lot of things going on out there for young people

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Speaker 19: to navigate these days.

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Speaker 3: And who I mean, is there anything that they could

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Speaker 3: be doing better or is it just market conditions.

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Speaker 19: Look, market conditions aren't helping obviously those It's that Brad

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Speaker 19: quoted earlier on today they show a pretty tough environment.

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Speaker 19: But I mean it's never been particularly easy for young people.

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Speaker 19: They need to lean on the resources that are out

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Speaker 19: there to help them navigate their way through. I know

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Speaker 19: Brad made the comment it's not the fault of young

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Speaker 19: people that it's so tough these days. But while it's

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Speaker 19: not necessarily anybody's fault, the owners is certainly there on employers,

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Speaker 19: on industry organizations to engage with young people these days.

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Speaker 19: You know, there's been a propensity to step back and

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Speaker 19: let the internet that we'll be talking, but we know

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Speaker 19: face to face engagement with young people is what really

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Speaker 19: inspires them. That's what helps them connect and know what

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Speaker 19: their options are. That's where we put so much emphasis

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Speaker 19: and so much work into things like the career expos

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Speaker 19: that have been running across the country. You know, we've

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Speaker 19: been operating for thirty three years. Every year there's a

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Speaker 19: new cohort of young people coming through much the same

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Speaker 19: questions on their lips every time, but they need to

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Speaker 19: talk to somebody. That's where the owners comes back on

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Speaker 19: to us to connect and help guide and inspire them.

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Speaker 3: Chat GPT you a good idea for your CV.

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Speaker 19: Mark, Well, they're helpful tools just to save, as the

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Speaker 19: calculator was when that first came in. But I think

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Speaker 19: people still want to see the personality of each individual

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Speaker 19: come through. So they've definitely got to make use of

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Speaker 19: those new AI tools that are there, but they've still

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Speaker 19: got to let their own personalities come through. Know who

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Speaker 19: they're talking to and what they're saying, what they're looking for,

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Speaker 19: how best to engage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because only the other problem of course with chat

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Speaker 3: GPT is once you get into the office and start talking,

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Speaker 3: they'll soon work out that it wasn't you that wrote

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Speaker 3: the CV. Mark. Appreciate your time, Mark Gillard, as the

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Speaker 3: director of the New Zealand Careers exposed It's twenty two

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Speaker 3: to six The Huddle.

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Speaker 2: With New Zealand Southerby's International Realty Unique Homes Uniquely for You.

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Speaker 3: Tris Jison Huson Willis PR with us tonight, Good evening, Trish,

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Speaker 3: good evening. Ryan Jersey BEGANI here too, see child fund.

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Speaker 3: Hey JC, he hate good to see. Probably a long

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Speaker 3: time since you guys have had to apply for a job.

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Speaker 3: That was a big pause. I don't know.

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Speaker 21: I'm getting to that middle aged stage of life where

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Speaker 21: if you do apply for a job, you're immediately just

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Speaker 21: cast aside because you're too old.

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Speaker 20: There No, I feel.

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Speaker 19: Like I am.

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Speaker 3: But you know when you did get your go for

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Speaker 3: your first jobs, and know when you were younger, how

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Speaker 3: did you do it? Josie hustled?

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Speaker 21: And I think if you look at kids today and

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Speaker 21: they are really struggling. I mean, my kids are all

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Speaker 21: going overseas, they've gone to Australia, get higher wages, better jobs.

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Speaker 21: But I employ a lot of kids too, a lot

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Speaker 21: of young not kids, young adults in the early twenties.

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Speaker 21: And what I look for is is that is attitude, hustle,

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Speaker 21: you know, a real kind of drive, come in there

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Speaker 21: and go beyond your job description. Because all the other

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Speaker 21: stuff you've got a twenty year old or twenty one

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Speaker 21: year old without experience. You can teach all of that,

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Speaker 21: but you can't teach that attitude and that kind of

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Speaker 21: go get hustle. And I've got one great young person

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Speaker 21: at the moment in my office.

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Speaker 18: Louise.

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Speaker 21: I'm thinking about you, and it's great because you went

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Speaker 21: to school with my son, my youngest son, so I

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Speaker 21: get to spy on his Instagram every now and then

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Speaker 21: the boss says, open my son's Instagram.

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Speaker 3: She's going to do it, Trish. What about you? I mean,

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Speaker 3: when you're hire, because you've always got a business yourself.

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Speaker 3: When you're hiring, what is it that you're looking for?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if young people out there are serious about

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Speaker 3: getting a job and it is a hard market, what

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Speaker 3: puts you out ahead.

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Speaker 22: I have had two incredible young women come to see

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Speaker 22: me this year to talk about the finishing undergrad degrees

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Speaker 22: or one was finishing a master's. And that's one of

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Speaker 22: the lovely things about getting to this agent stage in

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Speaker 22: your career is often people want to come and chat

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Speaker 22: about what to do. And I have to say, those

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Speaker 22: two young women completely blew me away. And I think

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Speaker 22: if our universities are turning out talent like that, you know,

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Speaker 22: binesses will want to hire these young people because what

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Speaker 22: they reminded me about. You know that great saying always

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Speaker 22: hire people smarter than yourself. Not only did these women

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Speaker 22: turn up, they were incredibly polished, they were very engaging.

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Speaker 22: They spoke to things like resilience, like wanting to be

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Speaker 22: in the office because that's how you learn things and

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Speaker 22: get ahead. But also they talked about their skills at

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Speaker 22: being digital natives. So in a business like ours, if

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Speaker 22: you can turn up and you are already incredibly AI literate,

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Speaker 22: you can work across a range of a range of software,

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Speaker 22: you are going to be a great hire for us.

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Speaker 22: And if you've got that personality. So I actually thought

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Speaker 22: it's you know, I was really heartened and quite inspired

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Speaker 22: by meeting those two.

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Speaker 3: Maybe two My question to Mark was actually a bit

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Speaker 3: of a stupid one. You know, maybe using chat, GPT,

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Speaker 3: showing you can do stuff like that it would actually

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Speaker 3: be an asset.

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Speaker 22: Well, I actually think we're at a tipping point where actually,

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Speaker 22: if you are not using AI, you're behind, rather than

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Speaker 22: as we sort of still tend to do we titter

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Speaker 22: at people who are using AI like it's cheating, Like

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Speaker 22: it's cheating. It is absolutely incredible and if it can

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Speaker 22: get you further and maybe get you an interview, then

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Speaker 22: you should be using it.

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Speaker 21: And also, you know, you want to give these young

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Speaker 21: people permission to fail, permission to try things, you know,

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Speaker 21: And that's what I say to all of them. And

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Speaker 21: then and then they just they're trying heaps of stuff,

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Speaker 21: whether it's chat GPT, whether it's coming up with crazy

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Speaker 21: ideas for press releases or something, and you just think

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Speaker 21: that that's fantastic. So you've also got to create an

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Speaker 21: environment where you get the best study young people.

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Speaker 3: Should we pull out of the un Ray Chung and

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump all ahead on the panel with Josie BEGANI intercesson.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. The ones

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Speaker 1: for unmasked results.

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Speaker 3: Be Josie Bigani Interesherson on the huddle, and it is

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Speaker 3: called it to six. Let's talk Ray Chain. Yes, where

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Speaker 3: do we start?

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Speaker 22: Let me just start by saying, and I'm certainly not

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Speaker 22: one to blow smoke up your backside, but if anyone

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Speaker 22: hasn't here, if anyone hasn't heard.

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Speaker 21: Just say he just said the other a while ago.

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Speaker 21: He was annoyed. It's like ripping my ninety and now

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Speaker 21: you're saying, blow smoke up his bump it's getting very risque.

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Speaker 22: Well, I don't. I mean rip your nighty. That's common

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Speaker 22: parlance for anyone who's annoyed by something. But if you

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Speaker 22: haven't heard Ryan's interview with rach Hung on Friday night,

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Speaker 22: go and have a listen to it, because it is

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Speaker 22: as as I found it, not only humorous but very astounding.

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Speaker 22: Number One, I was astounded Ray agreed to come on

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Speaker 22: and give an interview after what had happened. You cannot

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Speaker 22: dig yourself out of that hole, and I felt he

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Speaker 22: was really, you know, digging quite a lot deeper. I'm

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Speaker 22: not sure whether Ray realizes just how career limiting this

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Speaker 22: has been, and probably his chances of becoming the mayor are,

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Speaker 22: you know, I would say around zero right now in

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Speaker 22: the water.

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Speaker 3: But there.

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Speaker 22: The third point is unfortunately for Wellington, which you know,

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Speaker 22: if I were a Wellingtonian, I think, for God's sake,

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Speaker 22: you can't even get water in my taps. And yet

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Speaker 22: this whole council just continually turns up as a clown show.

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Speaker 22: And you know, if my neighbor had told me some

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Speaker 22: story about his son's tempestuous sex on a Friday night,

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Speaker 22: I don't think I would go back to the office

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Speaker 22: and flick it around us an f yi, regardless of

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Speaker 22: who the person was involved.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it just it's just outrageous.

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Speaker 21: But the thing about the Wellington City Council. Who needs

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Speaker 21: Love Island when you've got Wellington City Council. I mean,

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Speaker 21: it's not just that Ray Chung sent this email and

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Speaker 21: these accusations against Torriy Farno. It's that somebody leaked that email.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the.

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Speaker 21: Whole thing is just they are just a sesspit.

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Speaker 3: So what you need is an.

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Speaker 21: Absolute comprehensive clean out of that entire council because they're

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Speaker 21: all playing games.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 21: I'm sure there's some of the people there, but it's

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Speaker 21: the whole lot is just guys go away.

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Speaker 3: Do you know? The other thing here is like good

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Speaker 3: luck Andrew Little, you know, because he's I mean that's

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Speaker 3: going to be his job, right, it's trying to bring

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Speaker 3: them all together.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, you think running the unions was hard, wait till

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Speaker 21: you get into this Love Island.

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Speaker 3: Well, exactly, Donald Trump Mulling increasing the baseline tariff. So

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Speaker 3: we feel pretty good at the moment because we're on

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Speaker 3: ten percent. Everyone else is on ten percent. You know,

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Speaker 3: well that's the minimum and we feel pretty good about that.

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Speaker 3: He's now talking maybe I'll do fifteen, maybe I'll do

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Speaker 3: twenty tris do we take it seriously? And if we do,

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Speaker 3: do we worry about that?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 22: I would actually hark back to Winston Peter's early advice

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Speaker 22: earlier in the year around this is not to panic.

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Speaker 22: The one thing that we know about Trump and these tariffs,

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Speaker 22: there is literally no economic theory behind it. There is

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Speaker 22: no valid formula for how these are being set up,

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Speaker 22: these numbers, so it's truly peanuts under a cup. So

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Speaker 22: until we until we know what's going to happen, I think, uh,

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Speaker 22: you know, don't panic is really the order of the day,

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Speaker 22: the one useful piece of news. And I saw it

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Speaker 22: in the in the analysis today. I think it was

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Speaker 22: Catherine Beard of Business New Zealand saying, remember it's that

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Speaker 22: it's our it's our tariff relative to others. That's really

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Speaker 22: the point here. So if we are at twenty five

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Speaker 22: percent and everyone else is at twenty five percent, or

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Speaker 22: others are higher than that, then then that's okay for us.

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Speaker 22: It's not just that we're at twenty five percent off

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Speaker 22: it makes sense.

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Speaker 21: The thing is, it's never been a negotiation. It's always

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Speaker 21: been a shakedown and until we realize that, Okay, now

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Speaker 21: ten percent. Now we're looking at twenty percent. And when

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Speaker 21: he was campaigning, he was threatening sixty percent, fifty percent.

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Speaker 21: Here it was just completely random, as you say, Trish.

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Speaker 21: But but the point is it's just going to get worse,

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Speaker 21: and it's not going to go away when Trump goes

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Speaker 21: away either, because for some reason, America thinks that the

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Speaker 21: rest of the world is taking it for a ride

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Speaker 21: and sponging off it. So if we want to be

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Speaker 21: really savvy about this, we need to get really clever

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Speaker 21: at making sure. Thank god we joined the TPP CPTPP,

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Speaker 21: which is thirty six percent of a global economy, America

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Speaker 21: is about fifteen percent. We need to start really seriously

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Speaker 21: looking at we are with India, but trade with Southeast Asia,

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Speaker 21: trade with Canada, South Korea, all the countries that are

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Speaker 21: in the same situation as US, because this is not

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Speaker 21: going away.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing about it all is because you say,

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Speaker 3: you know, they've got this crazy idea that this will

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Speaker 3: get them out, but free trade hasn't treated everyone equally,

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Speaker 3: which is why we're in this position right because NAFTA

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Speaker 3: came along hollowed out, a whole bunch of manufacturing drop.

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Speaker 21: And you do, you do, absolutely have to. That's the

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Speaker 21: problem with the anti globalization movement, right, they have a point,

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Speaker 21: and the point is that there were people left behind.

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Speaker 21: I mean, no one in I don't know Northland is saying, well,

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Speaker 21: you know, my wage has gone down, but thank god,

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Speaker 21: aggregate wages have gone up.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 21: I mean, you're personally affected if your factory or your

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01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 21: meat works closes in your town because people are buying

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Speaker 21: cheaper stuff elsewhere and they've relocated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hurt.

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Speaker 21: So the inability to deal with the losers of globalization

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Speaker 21: has set us up for this situation. So it's it's

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Speaker 21: you know, it's the fault of the left as much

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Speaker 21: as the right that we haven't dealt with that.

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Speaker 22: But that is also the trademark of the way Trump

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Speaker 22: makes these ridiculous announcements and policies. There's always a grain

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Speaker 22: of truth at the heart of it, right, and so

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Speaker 22: it's very easy for those who want to believe it

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Speaker 22: to go, Yes, that's the right way to go. But

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Speaker 22: there is no doubt that these tariffs are absolutely a

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Speaker 22: shift away from the free trade world that we have known,

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Speaker 22: and we've been building since the Second World War and

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Speaker 22: we're going into a very worrying state of protection.

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Speaker 21: It's a great idea for a campaign. Let's start a

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Speaker 21: hashtag's aluminium campaign. Start pronouncing aluminium our way and anyone

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Speaker 21: who says aluminum we're not going to trade for them,

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Speaker 21: they get an extra tax aluminium text.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks guys Tricius and Jesse mcgarney on the Huddle tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's nine minutes away from six. Nicola Willis, Finance Minister

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Speaker 3: on the show after six on cost of Living.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duplessy Allan Drive full show podcast on

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Speaker 2: my Hard Radio powered by News Talk ZBB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZMB. Six away from six. So we just

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Speaker 3: had postcabin Wellington and the Prime Minister has essentially ruled

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Speaker 3: out rubber stamping Seymour's Regulatory Standards Bill.

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Speaker 15: We believe in the idea of a regulatary Chains bill

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Speaker 15: to make sure we improve the quality and the transparency

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Speaker 15: of lawmaking. But what we're also acknowledging is, look, this

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Speaker 15: is genuinely a complex piece of legislation and you do

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Speaker 15: want the devil will be in the detail that if

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Speaker 15: the bill can be further improved that we would be

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Speaker 15: silly not to take those improvements.

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Speaker 3: Note how he saidiz in favor of ah Regulatory Standards Bill,

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Speaker 3: not the Regulatory Standards Bill. This is part of well,

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Speaker 3: it's supposed to be part of the coalition agreement where

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Speaker 3: the act Party. Of course, David Seymour won't like to

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Speaker 3: hear him saying this. He's been very clear as in

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Speaker 3: Seymour that the coalition agreement includes the agreement to pass

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Speaker 3: the reg Litory Standards Bill. Now. The heralds Thomas Coglan

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Speaker 3: quoted sources on Saturday who confirmed to him that this

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Speaker 3: is a bottom line for David Seymour. In other words,

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Speaker 3: he is willing to walk away from the coalition unless

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Speaker 3: they pass the bill now in New Zealand. First, of course,

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Speaker 3: not massive fans of this. So the question then becomes

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Speaker 3: what is the bill and how different and drastically different

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Speaker 3: is the end bill that National might agree to support

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Speaker 3: to the one that Seymour had hoped for and had

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Speaker 3: sold his supporters. That becomes a very crucial question. And

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Speaker 3: if it I mean, look, if David Seymour walked away

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Speaker 3: from the government over the Regulatory Standards Bill, it would

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Speaker 3: be the dumbest thing he ever did, because there would

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Speaker 3: be no more government and there would likely not be

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Speaker 3: another one with him in it. So is that an

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Speaker 3: idle threat? I think so. So they'll just have to

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Speaker 3: come up with some compromise and they'll do some of

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Speaker 3: the Remember when they set up the coalition, Luxon said

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Speaker 3: there would be a almost like a committee where they

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Speaker 3: would debate all the hard stuff and then leave everything

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Speaker 3: on the cutting room floor and come out united. That's

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Speaker 3: where this thing needs to go for a couple of days,

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Speaker 3: have a couple of stiff whiskeys sort it out, come out,

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Speaker 3: present yourselves as a united front, and agree to way

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Speaker 3: weakened regulatory standards bill Easy.

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Speaker 7: And remember to mark those whiskis against your fifteen drinks.

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Speaker 10: For the week.

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Speaker 3: Good point, don't have them all on one day. Spread

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Speaker 3: it over a couple just gone four minutes away from six,

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge, Sorry, Nikola Willis on the show after six.

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Speaker 3: We did have Eric Stanford on after four. And I'll

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Speaker 3: just read you these numbers because I think they're worth repeating.

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Speaker 3: This is your end. See a numerousy and literacy results

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Speaker 3: for students. Fifty seven percent achieved a standard up from

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Speaker 3: forty five percent a year ago. How do you get

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Speaker 3: from forty five to fifty seven in such a short

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Speaker 3: space of time. Erica Stanford says, you just tell teachers

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Speaker 3: to focus on maths, reading, writing and maths. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is it that simple? Apparently so us talk said be

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Speaker 3: Nikola willis.

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Speaker 10: Next and here you were my head.

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Speaker 23: When I'm dreaming, dreaming, you're.

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Speaker 24: Skinning you where you can go.

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Speaker 9: Live?

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge can do has insurance

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Speaker 2: and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future, use talks

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Speaker 2: at be Good Evening.

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Speaker 3: It is seven after six news. There'd be Shane Sully

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Speaker 3: with a market update shortly how to knock sixty grand

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Speaker 3: off the cost of a new two bedroom home. We'll

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Speaker 3: share that with you after six thirty and our UK

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Speaker 3: correspondent given Grays with us before the end of the

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Speaker 3: hour too. Right now, Nicola with as Finance Minister. Good evening,

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Speaker 3: Good evening. How was your break? You've had some time off?

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Speaker 3: I understand, well, not really.

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Speaker 4: I had thirty six hours of the school holidays to

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Speaker 4: take the kids on some nature walks and the like.

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Speaker 4: But I've kept on working through the school holidays.

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Speaker 3: This time, and why is that cost of living still

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Speaker 3: out of control?

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Speaker 4: Such a busy agenda? Ryan, and I love my work

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Speaker 4: so much so it's been a joy to keep progressing

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Speaker 4: it while others have been taking some beat.

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Speaker 3: Fair How do you rate your progress on cost of living?

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Speaker 3: What would you give yourself out of ten right now?

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Speaker 4: I would say that we have made good progress compared

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Speaker 4: to where New Zealand was at I e. You know,

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Speaker 4: we had double digit food price inflation under labor and

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Speaker 4: we've now got it well down into the single figures.

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Speaker 4: But there is still more work to do. And that's

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Speaker 4: what I get up every day and think about, which

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Speaker 4: is how do we grow this economy, address the cost

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Speaker 4: of living, make it easier for kiwis to get ahead.

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Speaker 4: And some of those issues take time to work on,

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Speaker 4: you know, the supermarket challenges built up over a series

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Speaker 4: of decades. The electricity market was trashed by a series

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Speaker 4: of decisions by the last government councils, and their rating

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Speaker 4: ways have been creeping up on us for some time.

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Speaker 4: So these are not issues that I think New Zealanders

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Speaker 4: think we will resolve overnight. What they need to see

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Speaker 4: is progress and we are making it.

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Speaker 3: Are you has the price of groceries come down.

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Speaker 4: The amount of food price inflation has reduced under our

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Speaker 4: government from what it was under the last But I

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Speaker 4: remain concerns, as you're aware, with a lack of competition

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Speaker 4: in the supermarket sector, and I am working on forms

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Speaker 4: to address that.

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Speaker 3: How's that going? If you had the report back yet, Look.

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Speaker 4: It's going well. We received multiple responses to our request

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Speaker 4: for information from those who might seek to compete in

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Speaker 4: the supermarket sector about what's holding them back, both in

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Speaker 4: terms of the way that the current monopolists conduct themselves,

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Speaker 4: the barriers to setting up new supermarkets and the structural issues.

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Speaker 4: And I will shortly be making recommendations to Cabinet about

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Speaker 4: next steps and we'll be announcing those this quarter.

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Speaker 3: Is there any need to bust up the supermarkets? Is

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Speaker 3: that something that you're seriously still considering, or based on

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Speaker 3: the information you've got so far, will you take it down?

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Speaker 4: And Notch Well, I've always started from the position which says,

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Speaker 4: ultimately for this to be a more competitive market, you

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Speaker 4: need another national scale competitor. That's what all of the

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Speaker 4: economic evidence internationally tells us that for so long as

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Speaker 4: you have a duopol effectively you're not going to get

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Speaker 4: the downward pressure on prices and the increased choice that

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Speaker 4: consumers want to see. So the question is how do

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Speaker 4: you get that third player. I've always been cards on

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Speaker 4: the table. My first preference would be to do pretty

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Speaker 4: much anything we can to usher in a third player

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Speaker 4: to ease the way. But if that doesn't occur, then

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Speaker 4: we need a backup plan. And of course, if you

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Speaker 4: went back in time, we did have more than two

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Speaker 4: players in each island, and that was prior to the

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Speaker 4: mergers of the existing brands that occurred, and so there

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Speaker 4: is a worthwhile exercise of saying, well, what happens if

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Speaker 4: we split them up again. But I've always been clear,

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Speaker 4: first preference, let's get a third player, a new player

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Speaker 4: into the market.

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Speaker 3: So, because this is sounding very different, I mean, if

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Speaker 3: we look at the headlines, Nikola Willis threatens bust up,

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Speaker 3: what you're actually saying is we're going to try something first.

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Speaker 3: If that doesn't work, we will have the specter of

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Speaker 3: a bust up hanging in the background, waiting to fall

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Speaker 3: on your necks.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm doing the work on what a bust up

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Speaker 4: would look like because I think it's important that we

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Speaker 4: do that work. I'm also ensuring that where we have

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Speaker 4: existing laws, that we are enforcing them and are ensuring

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Speaker 4: that we've got enough teeth in the enforcement of them.

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Speaker 4: And then this next piece around what would it take

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Speaker 4: to usher in a third player actually goes to some

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Speaker 4: of these competition issues, because one of the things that

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Speaker 4: people who would potentially compete in New Zealand say to

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Speaker 4: us is that one of their concerns is about the

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Speaker 4: market power of the existing entities and what they might

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Speaker 4: do to them to stamp on that competition were it

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Speaker 4: to occur. So all of these issues need to be

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Speaker 4: considered together. My work on this has yielded some good

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Speaker 4: progress that I'm looking forward to sharing with New Zealanders

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Speaker 4: once Cabinet has considered it fully, and that will be

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Speaker 4: happening very soon.

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Speaker 3: You're not using the confusion of your intention as a

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Speaker 3: pr tool to sound tough on supermarkets.

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Speaker 4: No, It's really clear for me New Zealand consumers aren't

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Speaker 4: getting a good deal because there isn't enough competition in

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Speaker 4: our grocery sector. And I want to use all of

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Speaker 4: the policy and legislative leaders available to the government to

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Speaker 4: encourage that basic thing, which is competition and if you

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Speaker 4: write from the beginning say hey, look, we're going to

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Speaker 4: do a bunch of stuff, but I'm not prepared to

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Speaker 4: ever break them up, then what you're actually saying is

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Speaker 4: I'm not prepared to do everything it would take to

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Speaker 4: ensure competition, because actually my focus is on the New

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Speaker 4: Zealand shopper, who right now, in most parts of the

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 4: country has the choice between food stuffs and will worse

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Speaker 4: in any other country in the world that have a

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 4: lot more choice than that. And what we have seen

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01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 4: again and again is that because there aren't those choices,

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 4: it appears that those big players misuse their market power.

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Speaker 4: New Zealanders pay more for their groceries, get fewer choices,

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Speaker 4: and it's harder to get the kind of innovation that

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 4: you see off shore. So I want to see more competition.

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Speaker 4: That's my starting place, and I'm considering all the ways

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Speaker 4: that you can get there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, When will we have an answer?

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Speaker 4: Well, I will be providing an update in the next

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Speaker 4: couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then we'll find out where you're going to

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Speaker 3: bust up the supermarkets Within a couple of months.

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Speaker 4: Well, you'll find out what our next steps are.

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Speaker 10: Run.

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Speaker 3: Why is it so hard. Why can't you just say

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Speaker 3: what you're going to do and when you're going to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 4: This is a problem that is literally decades in the making,

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 4: and whatever solution I put forward, I am testing very

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Speaker 4: carefully to ensure it will actually result in a better

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01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 4: deal to you, the shopper, and other shoppers around the country.

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Speaker 4: And it's certainly an issue where you need more hastily speed,

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 4: which is to say that you need to carefully think

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Speaker 4: through your proposition. Let's remember the last government introduced massive

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Speaker 4: We know what they did to grocery Act and did

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Speaker 4: it result in an improvement in competition or prices?

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Speaker 10: No?

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01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 4: Jury is bring prepare is do I want to fall

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01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 4: for the same trap?

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Speaker 8: No?

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01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 4: No, I don't want to feel for traps. Giving it

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Speaker 4: a bit more due diligence, a bit more depth of work.

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Speaker 3: And while your Minister of Finance grocery prices will come

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: down as a result, I.

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Speaker 4: Want to see an increase in competition, okay, and so

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01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 4: that will in itself create downward pressure on prices. And look,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing. I'm having good commercial conversations behind the

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: scenes about what might be achievable here. I could put

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 4: all of that at risk by racing at one solution.

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01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: I've been very careful to say, let's go through all

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: of the options, way them up, come up with the

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: best option.

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Speaker 3: Hey, with tarifs lux of the Prime ministration. So they

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: told me a couple of weeks ago he's sort of

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01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: okay with the ten percent. I mean, it's not ideal.

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 3: But if Trump is talking about fifteen or twenty percent,

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Speaker 3: do we start paying more attention.

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously we're aware of those media reports, but we've

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: had no direct communication from the US suggesting any change

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Speaker 4: to New Zealand's current tariff status, which is the ten

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Speaker 4: percent baseline tariff. Remember, the context here is that our

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 4: trade is very well balanced with the US. The US

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Speaker 4: enjoys very strong access to our market, virtually tariff free

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Speaker 4: across all areas. The Minister of Trade has had a

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Speaker 4: constructive engagement with the US Trade Representative Greyer, and that

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Speaker 4: relationship has been affirmed as a strong one. And so

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Speaker 4: there's no reason for us to be of the view

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Speaker 4: that we're at risk here. Okay, beyond what's already been stated.

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Speaker 3: You the CTU, the lobby groups being excluded from the

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Speaker 3: budget at the time you claimed it was Treasury's decision.

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Speaker 3: When it's now clear from OAA documents that on April second,

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Speaker 3: a Treasury communications advisor informed this colleagues that willis preferred.

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Speaker 3: That's the Finance Minister taking the exact same approach as

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Speaker 3: was used at HAYFU. Why did you say one thing

1481
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 3: when clearly another was going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: This is such a mountain out of a molehill. Basically,

1483
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 4: last year we said, look, let's be a bit more

1484
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 4: selective about who comes to the lock up. Treasury set

1485
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 4: wrote up some guidelines on that. I said, well, let's

1486
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Speaker 4: just stick to the same approach for the budget. Then

1487
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Speaker 4: there was a heck of a lot of noise about it,

1488
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Speaker 4: and eventually I interving and said, oh well, let's just

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Speaker 4: let them all come. I don't think it's a surprise

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Speaker 4: to anyone listening to your show right now that I

1491
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 4: have a different view on how the economy should be

1492
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 4: run than Grant Robertson's former advisor, Craig Rennie. He came

1493
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: to the lock up, he got to listen, he got

1494
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 4: to say his peace, and no one is the worse

1495
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 4: for it. But if you were listening to him, that's

1496
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Speaker 4: on you not to know what he's doing here.

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01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 3: But did you not want him there?

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Speaker 4: Well, my original position late last year was that restricting

1499
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Speaker 4: the lock up to those who actually required timely information

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Speaker 4: to communicate market sensitive information seemed a sensible restriction to make,

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01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 4: and initially we stuck to those guns. But it became

1502
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: clear over time that the amount of content not only

1503
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 4: from the C to you, but from the Taxpayers Union

1504
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 4: and others actually outweighed any benefits from restricting the lockup.

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: So eventually, look, the outcomes clear.

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Speaker 3: Right, you agree everyone wanted to come to I know,

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Speaker 3: but it's not about that. It's about your credibility, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Because you came out and you rest you saved the day.

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Speaker 3: He said, Oh no, I've saved the day. Everyone's allowed

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Speaker 3: to come now When it was you trying to stop

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Speaker 3: them coming in the first place.

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Speaker 4: Well, a decision had been made previously that would restrict

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Speaker 4: by you, and then I came in and saved the day.

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Speaker 4: So you've you've similarized for yourself.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough? Can I get that kind of honesty on

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Speaker 3: the supermarkets?

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Speaker 4: You know what the question is this, is any New

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Speaker 4: Zealander better off because of the attendance at the lockup?

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Speaker 4: And I put to you there are bigger issues for

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Speaker 4: the country and ultimately my decision was, I don't want

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Speaker 4: this to be a distraction from a budget which is

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Speaker 4: actually about New Zealanders their cost of living, how we

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Speaker 4: create jobs and grow the economy. And the fact that

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Speaker 4: other people are more focused on whether or not they

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 4: get to wear a special badge at the lock up

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Speaker 4: is on them, not on me.

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Speaker 3: Finance Minister Nichola Willis, it's great to have you back

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Speaker 3: You know what's really hard, supporting loved ones when you're

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Speaker 3: not physically there for them. That's why I love that

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Speaker 3: gourmet bundles, care packages all the stuff you want to

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Speaker 3: do when you're not there. One off purchases, no subscriptions,

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Speaker 3: delivered nationwide even next day in most places, so really

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Speaker 3: quick and brilliant. The thought behind these is also brilliant.

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Speaker 3: The large care package comes with three full ready made meals,

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Speaker 3: fresh bread, soups, sweet treats, everything you can imagine. The

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Speaker 3: Ryan Fridge, Shane Solly, Harbor Asset Management. Good evening, Hey,

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Speaker 3: gety Ryan, how are you? Yeah, good to have you here.

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 3: Let's get a market update. We'll have the markets reacted

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Speaker 3: to the latest round of threats on terriffs from Trump.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Look, so mister Trump coming out and talking about thirty

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01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 25: percent tariff for Mexico and Europe, threatening to thirty five

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Speaker 25: percent on some Canadian goods and prospect of a blanket

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01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 25: fifteen to twenty percent on everybody else potentially including New Zealands. Look,

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Speaker 25: if you did announce, it's been a bit of a negative.

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Speaker 9: Wake up call.

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Speaker 25: For markets, but we've actually got reasonably modest response so far.

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01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 25: Markets might have been a bit complacent, but we saw

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Speaker 25: on Friday the US bond yields go up slightly. This

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01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 25: is the cost of borrowing for the US government. Not

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 25: a huge amount, but a little bit. US shear market

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01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 25: fell about point three percent, and it's flagging based on

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01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 25: futures that the US market will be down about half

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Speaker 25: a percent tonight. US dollars slightly stronger. So yeah, a

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Speaker 25: bit of a wake up call, but not the same

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Speaker 25: degree of sell off we saw back at eight four

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Speaker 25: second on that infamous liberation day.

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Speaker 3: What would it mean for US if he did go

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Speaker 3: ahead and do a fifteen or twenty percent Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Look, I think it's a bit of a headwind for

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01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 25: some of our key exporters, certainly beef and wine. There's

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Speaker 25: particularly one area that New Zealand exports a lot into

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 25: the US. Headwind for some of the manufacturers and services companies.

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Speaker 25: I do wonder about it just causing a bit more

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01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 25: uncertainty for the wider business in the sumer confidence levels.

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Speaker 25: Fisher and Proper healthkey here in New Zealand shear market.

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Speaker 25: Our biggest company by market cap is exposed to tariffs

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Speaker 25: on the Mexican product that produces that goes into the US.

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Speaker 25: But I think at this stage it seems like that

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01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 25: product will be covered by the US NCA, so it

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01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 25: may have already any issues, and certainly the F and

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Speaker 25: P ten is pretty pretty savvy in dealing with these issues.

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Speaker 3: And any reaction from local markets.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, pretty pretty muted today, actually, Ryan, the New Zealand

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01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 25: dollar up sorry down slightly against the UIs dollar around

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 25: sixty cents across the New Zealand ten yure government blind

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Speaker 25: you it up slightly three basis points to four point

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01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 25: five seven percent, and New Zealand Schimacher pretty much fled

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01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 25: on the day. So no, not not now part of

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Speaker 25: the world. But we'll wait for overnight.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time, Shane Shane Soley, harbor Esset Management with

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Speaker 3: our market update for this evening. It is twenty four

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Speaker 3: minutes after six. You're on News Talk CVY Shoburs News Next.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Ryan Ridge, and there's insurance and investments,

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01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: Grow your wealth, Protect your future, News.

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Speaker 3: Talk six twenty seven. In some showbiz news tonight, Kanye

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: West has struggled battled his way through a concert in Shanghai.

1603
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,480
Speaker 3: Fans apparently that's what you heard. They're chanting for a refund.

1604
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: He was forty minutes late, turned up like seventy thousand fans.

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01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: They're waiting. It was raining, which made the whole thing

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: so much worse. He was interrupted of a concert, I

1607
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 3: should say, interrupted by the weather, but also faulty tech tickets.

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01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 3: Two hundred and twenty five was year base. Six hundred

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 3: New Zealand dollars is the most you would have paid.

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 3: He's struggled to get venues lately because he's had a

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: few anti Semitic rants on Twitter and other places. As

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01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,919
Speaker 3: you probably heard about. Recently, Australia's Home Affairs Minister revoked

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Speaker 3: his visa after he released a song titled Hal Hitler,

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 3: which he performed live for the first time at the

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01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 3: Shanghai concert.

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Speaker 15: It wasn't a visa even for the purpose of the concert.

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01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 15: It was a lower level and the officials still looked

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Speaker 15: at the law and said, you're gon't have a song

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01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 15: and promote that sort of natism.

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Speaker 1: We don't need that in Australia.

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01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: Well, probably don't need it anywhere. I would think on

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: Planet Earth. So basically, Kanye, no way. It sounds like

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: I was so terrified for a second we were about

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01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: to play the Hail Hitler song. Oh my goodness, what

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01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: are you doing? Anyway? It is coming up to half Sex.

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: You're on new Talk zeb how to save sixty grand

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01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: off your new build home next money Bay.

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01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: Then you can't tell me crouching the numbers and getting

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01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and MAS Insurance

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01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: and Investments Crew, Your Wealth, Protect your Future Newstalgs EDB.

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Speaker 3: Good evening. It is twenty four away from seven year

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01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 3: on News Talks EDB. We'll get to Gavin Gray in

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01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 3: the UK before seven o'clock this evening. Interesting story from

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Speaker 3: One News tonight. No senior New Zealand government official is

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01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: going to to because you know we've got this battle

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01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: with the Cooks, well sort of a not a battle,

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01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 3: that's the wrong word to use. It's a diplomatic tussle

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01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 3: with the Cook Islands. At the moment they went behind

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01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: our back signed this deal with the Chinese. We have

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01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: intends suspended about eighteen million dollars worth of funding, so

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01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 3: it's a massive amount for the Cooks and now One

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01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 3: News is saying that the Cooks they're marking sixty years

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 3: of free association with New Zealand on August fourth. Our

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 3: Prime Minister Christopher Luxant and our Foreign Minister Winston Peters

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 3: will not be attending, and One News says this is

1647
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: because they've been snubbed, well presumably left off the invite list.

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01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,480
Speaker 3: Our Governor General Dame Cindy Kiro will leave the delegation

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01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 3: that include some members of Parliament, et cetera, but Luxon

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01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: and Peters will not be going. However, Christopher Luxen has

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01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 3: said something I suppose it's kind of humorous Waden on

1652
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 3: the Ray Chung saga during his post cabinet press conferences

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 3: Affternoon have a listen.

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Speaker 15: I think the email was entirely inappropriate and utterly unacceptable,

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01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,879
Speaker 15: But ultimately it's up to the fine people of Wellington,

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01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 15: who I'm sure will work through who they would like

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01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 15: to represent them in their role.

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Speaker 3: Thomas, do you know Chun?

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01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 5: No?

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01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't he is he sort of adjacent to.

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Speaker 15: The i've met her met him. I don't don't remember

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01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 15: meeting him, but I don't know. I wouldn't be able

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01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 15: to tell you who he is or point out who is.

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Speaker 3: Poor old Ray Chung. Funnily enough, I said the dinner

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Speaker 3: a couple six months ago which they were both at

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01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 3: and they were getting very close to one another. I

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01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 3: couldn't say that they'd met. But you're going to be careful,

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01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: dn't you when you say I've never met this person

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01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 3: and you're the Prime Minister, because then next minute there's

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: a photo with you two sitting next to each other,

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01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 3: and everyone's saying, oh, it's a conspiracy. Twenty two away

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01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 3: from seven ban Bridge, one size fits all home designs

1673
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 3: the future of housing in New Zealand, that is the question.

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01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 3: The Building Research Association of New Zealand Brands is getting

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01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 3: ready to launch its new consent ready home plans. This

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01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 3: is in the next couple of months that all happened.

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01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: They say that their predesigned three bedroom home will save

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01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: home builders huge costs on architects. Dr Chris Lissen is

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Speaker 3: the GM of Research at Brands and joins me.

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01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 10: Now, Hello, Hi Ryan, how are you going tonight?

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01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 3: Very good? Thank you? Now give us the elevator pitch on.

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01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 10: This, okay, So we really know that housing affordable is

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01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 10: a real key issue for New Zealanders. So Brands is

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01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 10: all about using our research and testing about create practical

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01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 10: solutions and to do that we've come up with a

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Speaker 10: development of the next Time and that's really to show

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Speaker 10: New Zealands that you can build high quality, low carbon

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01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 10: and affordable homes. So we'll have these designs available later

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01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 10: in this year for free download so that anyone can

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01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 10: use it, and there'll be consent ready, so you should

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01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 10: be able to use it anywhere across New Zealand.

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01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 3: When you say consent ready, do you mean pre consented

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01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: or do you mean what do you mean by that?

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01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 10: So there's a scheme that the government runs called Multiproof

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01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 10: and these designs will be approved by that. So he's

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01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 10: literally about to take the designs, go to your counsel

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01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 10: and say here they are. Can we build a particular

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01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 10: building on what the land I've got? Councilor should say yes?

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 10: And that's it.

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01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,799
Speaker 3: What will this save your average house builder?

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01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 10: Well, these designs, I think one of the misconceptions is

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01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 10: that high quality and low carbon or sustainable buildings are expensive,

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 10: and we're showing them not. So these designs are going

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01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 10: to be about the same price as the standard building

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 10: that's going on at the moment. But you get the

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01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 10: added benefits of saying really high quality, which means great

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01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 10: indoor equality, which means you will be help here. Your

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01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 10: carbon footprint, if you're intant carbon footprint will about fifty

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01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 10: percent lower than your standard house, and it will be

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01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 10: a similar price to what you'd be paying normally.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it sounds too good to be true.

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01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Of course, is there a catch?

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01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 10: There is no catch, and that's why we do this

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01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 10: research to really try and understand this sort of stuff.

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01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 10: So yeah, as I said before, there's a bit of

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01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 10: misconception that high quality and sustainable means unaffordable, and we're

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01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 10: showing that's not.

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01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 3: What about the you know, each site has its own

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01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: quirks and sunlight coming in different directions. How do you

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01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: account for all of that?

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01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's really why they still do need to go

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Speaker 10: to the council to get that consent to say, actually

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Speaker 10: this is the right place. I'm not about to build

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Speaker 10: on a floodplaine or on a slippery hill that's going

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Speaker 10: to wash my house away or anything like that. So

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Speaker 10: that is that we can't control that. There's very much

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Speaker 10: having those designs talking to the council about it, and

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Speaker 10: that should be very simple to get it all sorted

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Speaker 10: out with them.

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Speaker 3: How do you think this could scale up? You know,

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Speaker 3: will we have entire suburbs of identical homes.

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Speaker 10: Well. One of the real issues with New Zealanders as

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Speaker 10: we all love to have something different, right every home

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Speaker 10: we want looked different to their neighbors and unfortunate it's

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Speaker 10: just not the way you can build sustainable and build

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Speaker 10: sustainable and have sort of affordable homes. So these designs

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Speaker 10: are very much about standardization. They've got standard window sizes,

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01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 10: they do have some standard floor structures and layouts. But

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Speaker 10: the end of the day, I think this really is

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Speaker 10: you fover seas. A lot of places are all similar.

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Speaker 10: You can paint these made, these things can look different,

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01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 10: but it is the way of the future.

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Speaker 3: Really, it's about affordability. It's not about flashy.

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Speaker 10: It is about affordable. It's not about fleshy. But again

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01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 10: in this case, fleshy means it's really high quality and

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Speaker 10: you're going to have a great healthy environment inside the home,

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01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 10: which quite a lot of homes don't have.

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Speaker 3: For of the architects angry at.

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Speaker 10: You, We've got our own architects on board. We've had

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Speaker 10: architects pair review these and they're all really excited about

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Speaker 10: what's going on.

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Speaker 3: No one's going to be put out of business.

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Speaker 10: That's not our aim. Our aim is very much about

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01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 10: having some really good designs that people can use. And

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Speaker 10: we're not going to make anyone use them, of course,

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01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 10: but they're there and available if you want to, you

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Speaker 10: go for it.

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Speaker 3: All right, We'll leave it there. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: your time. Dr Chris Listen as the GM of research

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Speaker 3: at Brands talking about this one size fits all preconsented

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Speaker 3: home design that they reckon will not tens of thousands

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Speaker 3: of dollars off the cost of a new built seventeen

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Speaker 3: minutes away from seven. You're on news talks, he'd be,

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Speaker 3: and it's just distracted for a second because if you

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01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: put the first leader of his first name with his

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01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 3: last name, as would be kitten. That's what's interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: Gavin grays are UK.

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Speaker 7: Chorus So it could be setting as well though if

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Speaker 7: it's a soft sea at this station, yeah, it's because

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Speaker 7: Chris with a sea so I feel like you're jumping

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Speaker 7: ahead there.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't rush to rush to assume, would you, right,

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Speaker 3: Gavin gray Are UK correspondent is next the UK Sorry,

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Speaker 3: the EU, I should say, is chickening out on its

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01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: retaliatory tariffs for now. Oh they've been delayed a second time,

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Speaker 3: this time until August. Kevin Gray has the details next.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

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Speaker 2: It's all on the Business Hours with Ryan Bridge, and

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01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: there's insurance and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 3: These dogs v it is fourteen away from seven. Gavin

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Speaker 3: Gray are UK correspondent Givin. Good to have you on

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Speaker 3: the show. As always, the banks, the EU retelliatory tariffs

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01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 3: on Uish exports. They've been given the delay button.

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Speaker 20: Again, yes, yet again, and all this, I think is

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Speaker 20: sort of almost a dance, if you like, with the

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Speaker 20: President of America. Obviously now he's threatening much larger tariffs

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Speaker 20: on the EU, up to thirty percent, and they're basically now.

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Speaker 3: I think in.

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Speaker 20: This thing about timing, the EU is being accused by

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump for pulling its dragging its feet, not getting

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01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 20: into this fast enough. He's getting impatient. But I think

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Speaker 20: that the European Commission President Versill of vonderlyon announcing these delays,

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Speaker 20: is basically suggesting that it is being done in order

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Speaker 20: to try and sort out that thirty percent tariff as well,

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Speaker 20: so the EU's retaliation would have hit twenty one billion

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Speaker 20: euros worth roughly forty billion New Zealand dollars worth of

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Speaker 20: US goods. It was first suspended in March. The break

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Speaker 20: has been extended down until early August, and EU trade

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Speaker 20: ministers meeting in Brussels today to discuss how to respond

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Speaker 20: to the latest threat from Donald Trump and those thirty

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Speaker 20: percent tariffs on EU imports. He says, really, the trade

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Speaker 20: imbalance between the EU and America is ridiculously high and

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01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 20: disgusting in his own words, and he said that has

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Speaker 20: got to stop. The EU is saying, well, this is

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01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,799
Speaker 20: not the way to go about it. And he thinks

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Speaker 20: that European Union countries think it's time everyone got round

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01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 20: the negotiating table and really thrashed to deal out. But

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Speaker 20: these deals are never very quick to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they're certainly not given. There's a good channk

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Speaker 3: of laboring peace who are wanting the government to recognize

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Speaker 3: Palestine as a state.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, very interesting. This so nearly sixty labor MPs have

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Speaker 20: called on the Foreign Office to immediately recognize Palestine as

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Speaker 20: a state. They really want to ratchet up pressure on

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Speaker 20: their own government here, and they believe that Gaza is

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Speaker 20: being ethically cleansed and have set out five different measures

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Speaker 20: to prevent the Israeli government from carrying out its rapa plan.

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Speaker 20: Of course, Israel vehemently deny those claims of being acting

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Speaker 20: in that way against Gaza. But the letters that the

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01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 20: ministers have received says that the Palestine should be recognized

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Speaker 20: as a state. It should continue support for the UN

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Speaker 20: Agency for Palestinian Refugees, something which Israel says has been

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Speaker 20: riddled with the corruption and hammers integration. It should secure

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01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 20: the release of hostages, press for the full and unhindered

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Speaker 20: resumption of humanitarian aid, and also make a full review

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Speaker 20: and place restrictions on trade and financial support of illegal

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Speaker 20: Israeli settlements in West Bank. And it's that last one

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Speaker 20: that they may actually get a bit of traction, with

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Speaker 20: a great amount of discussion here about trade with Israel

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01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 20: and whether perhaps that is the best way the UK

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01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 20: can act in order to try and force Israel into

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Speaker 20: climbing down over some of its actions.

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Speaker 3: From the Weird Files, Gevin the UK airport playing a

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Speaker 3: looped soundtrack in the background of what.

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Speaker 20: Of an airport? Yes believe it or not. Its commissioned

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Speaker 20: a soundtrack which will be on loop, which will basically

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01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 20: be called the music for Heathrow. So this is Britain's

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Speaker 20: biggest airport, just to the west of London, and they

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01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 20: have got this musician, multi instrumentalist and producer, a Grammy

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01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 20: nominee to ye try and sort of work out a

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01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 20: little soundtrack. And bizarrely it isn't music as such. It's

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01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 20: seat of ambient noises that will include a lady on

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01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 20: a tannoid, hurried footsteps on a tiled floor, the rumble

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01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 20: of a baggage belt, the hum of an escalator. Why

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01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 20: why are they spending all this money? Well, they want

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01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 20: to kickstart what they call passenger holidays by reflecting the

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01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 20: excitement and anticipation Ryan of going on holiday. I have

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01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 20: to tell you the biggest excitement and anticipation I get

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01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,520
Speaker 20: is seeing if my flight has not been delayed or canceled.

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01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 20: And many people think this is rather an odd way

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Speaker 20: of spending money for all those charges that they levy.

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Speaker 3: Very so they play this in the background while wouldn't

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01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 3: you have the natural ambience sounds doing the job for you?

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01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: Very good question, very bizarre. Gavin thank you for the

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Speaker 3: Givin Gray, UK correspondent nine minutes away from seven. It's

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Speaker 3: just somebody who's being paid. I mean, how many layers

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01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 3: of management do you have to have before you get

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01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 3: to somebody coming to work and suggesting you need a

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Speaker 3: background track soundtrack of the existing sound of an airport.

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Speaker 3: That's I'm said. Nine to seven News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: It's the heather too for seel and Drive full show

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Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: EBB, News Talks VB. It is seven away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Time for some of your texts this evening, which I've

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01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 3: been a little slack with in the last hour. I apologize.

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01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 3: We talked about bus lanes, Ryan, I agreed with you.

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01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 3: New bus lanes in both Auckland and Wellington cause severe congestion,

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01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 3: says Carol, and severe congestion for all working city people.

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01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 3: I'm a sales rep and my time sitting in queues

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Speaker 3: while the buses passed occasionally with only a few passengers

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01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 3: on board is causing much non productive time for the

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Speaker 3: rest of us. Lots of rates funding is wasted. Regards Carol, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: bus lanes. Have you ever been on a driven with

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Speaker 3: a bus driver? Lately, it's a very difficult job. I'm

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01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 3: not saying they're doing a bad job. I'm just saying

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Speaker 3: the bus lanes needn't be twenty four seven everywhere. You know,

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01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 3: you can be a little more lenient, you can have

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01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 3: some There is no need for there to be a

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01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 3: bus lane sitting empty, sitting idle for most of the

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Speaker 3: day and used at peak hour only. That's all. The

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01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 3: only point I was trying to make. Nothing against the

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Speaker 3: bus driver. Don't take any offense. Five to seven and

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01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 3: it's what are we going out to tonight?

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Speaker 7: Dream on by Aerosmith to play us out tonight. Aerosmith

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01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 7: have been on a bit of a journey the last

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01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 7: couple of years because obviously it was a bit of

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01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 7: sad news for Steven Tyler, the front man. He had

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01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 7: a vocal cord injury last year. So after that that

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01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 7: was kind of the end of them touring, except it

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01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 7: wasn't because back in February he did return to the

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01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 7: stage for just one show at a charity event, and

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Speaker 7: so it seems like that might not be the last

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01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,480
Speaker 7: time that that happens because another member of the band, Joe,

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Speaker 7: He has said in an interview that they are talking

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Speaker 7: about doing another show, and he says, look, all of

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01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 7: us are alive, We're all well other than the vocal things,

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01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 7: so we just have to try and do another one.

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Speaker 7: So he is convinced that this that wasn't the last

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Speaker 7: Aerosmith gig. There will be one more gig. Unfortunately, obviously

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Speaker 7: Stephen Tyler does have the vocal issues. So they said

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Speaker 7: he's probably not going to be doing a tour again,

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01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 7: but one more show it may happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, that'd be a good show to get too, wouldn't

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01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 3: that you pay good money for that? Also, I love

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01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 3: that they say, you know, we're all still alive. Something

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Speaker 3: might as well.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean a rock band who were making

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01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 7: music in the seventies like you can never get I

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Speaker 7: still do it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 7: I still don't know how Keith Richards are still going,

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Speaker 7: you know, all the cigarettes and all the alcohol that

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01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 7: guy's hands said, But yeah, bird there you go.

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Speaker 3: Must be AI by now. Four to seven News took

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Speaker 3: sid be see.

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Speaker 24: Tomorrow, dream Out, dream Out, dream Out.

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Speaker 3: I tell your dreams a.

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Speaker 11: Dream Out, dream Out, dream Out.

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Speaker 23: Dream Out. Same sing Winners, Sabody Here sing sing Volunteers,

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Speaker 23: Single Winner, Just Out Today, Man to myself going All'm

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Speaker 23: taking Away, single.

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Speaker 11: Winner sing Bonny Year, sing.

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Speaker 23: Ballah Lah, the Same Vail single Windows.

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Speaker 24: A Man to Loud, Taking.

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