1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Winston's great rail solution is now revealed, well some of 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: it anyway. It seems just like Kiwi Rail's I Rex 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: but cheaper. The boats are still big, bigger than we've 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: got right now, but smaller than the ones that were 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: ordered before. They are rail enabled, but the port side 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: infrastructure in the work there is a lot more reasonable 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: and that's always been the thing. The original boats were 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: actually a good deal, but the kicker always came port side. 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Kiwi Rail was under the belief, in fact, this is 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: what they were told back in the day by the government, 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: including Winston Peters, that this project had to be future proofed. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: This had to be a fifty to one hundred year thing. 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: This was something that had to last, which is a 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: type of thinking that New Zealand doesn't too often. So 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the ferrari in this whole deal was not the boats, 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: it was the ports. Now, Winston says, Picton needs a 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: big revent that's going to cost but the earthquake pro 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: and Wellington Port just needs a touch up. Thought by 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the way, that the new fairies will have less capacity 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: in an ideal world. All of this is not ideal, 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: but it is, As Winston says, pragmatic. Now. I know 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: people involved with the original Irex deal on the on 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: the government side, and when this first happened, I talked 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: to them and they said that Kiwi Raw should not 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: come to their government expecting an open checkbook. They were 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: supporters of rail and all that sort of thing, but 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: you just can't come thinking you can just fleece billions 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: out of the government. Decide that, and he was right. 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: The original Irex deal had some good parts to it, 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: and it is the one that we should have aspired to. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: But as the government keeps telling us, now is not 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: the right time for aspirational long term planning. We just 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: can't afford it. But if not now, when will we 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: do anything right first time? So this deal looks like 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: a saving short term, but the question will always be 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: for another generation will we end up paying more? Long term? 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: The upshot is that we do have fairies coming by 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, and that's when our current feryes have 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: ended their lives, so the timing is tight. The new 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: fairies are far less likely to think than the ones 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: we already have. And you know that's about it. In 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: this story, We're right back to where we were thirty 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: years ago. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio