1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: earlier is show with One Root Love where you Live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: News Talks. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning to you, welcome to the program. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Coming up 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: over the next sixty minutes, we've got an election date, 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: so she's all go, what sort of campaign will it be? 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Liam Hare, the political commentator, will join us at about 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: five minutes time. We've got another green shoot. This time 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: there are more jobs for builders. We'll tell you more 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: on that, and of course Trump and Davos. We've got 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Mitch mcand joining us for some details of what actually happened, 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: and an economics professor from Iowa just before the six 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: o'clock news on the impact, because remember this is still 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: about the economy. We've got this in correspondence from right 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: around New Zealand and news as it breaks, and you 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: can have your say on the text and the text 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: number is ninety two ninety two, and it's seven minutes 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: after five the agenda, and it's Thursday, the twenty second 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: of January, and Trump is coming for Greenland, or as 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: he likes to call it, a giant piece of ice. 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: It's the United States alone that can protect this giant 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: mass of land, this giant piece of ice, develop it 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 3: and improve it, and make it so that it's good 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: for Europe and save for Europe and good for us. 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: And that's the reason I'm seeking immediate negotiations to once 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: again discuss the acquisition of Greenland by the United States. 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Now, that was part of his math and speech in Dabos. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: This speech, by the way, seventy two minutes long, and 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: in the speech he fired shots in Europe but says 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: he will not use excessive force to acquire agreement. 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: What we have gotten out of NATO is nothing except 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: to protect Europe from the Soviet Union in our Russia. 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: I mean, we've helped them for so many years. We've 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: never gotten anything. And all we're asking for is to 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: get Greenland, including right title and ownership, because you need 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: the ownership to defend it. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Now, he says he's never got anything. But the only 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: time Article five has been enacted in the NATO agreement 40 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: was when nine to eleven happened, and so that's at 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: America's behest. Otherwise, there's been no activation of Article five. Meanwhile, 42 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: another news and Prince Harry's finished giving evidence against the 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: publisher of The Daily Mail. He claims journalists knew his 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: moves when no one should have. He described it as 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: full blown stalking for the Prince. 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: And his press privacy mission. This really is the moment 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: that matters for him. Already, his team have accused associated 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: newspapers of playing dirty tricks by ending their opening arguments 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 4: early yesterday, bringing the Prince to court a day earlier 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: than had been expected. 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: And Harry says his long uneasy history with the press 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: from dianater Meghan is why he's taking them on. It 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: is nine out to five. 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins and one roof Love where 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: you Live news talks that'd be. 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: With all the attention on Greenland and Davos and internet 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: geopolitics lately, we've forgotten what's happening back here, and I'd 59 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: like to talk about wasteful government spending right now. And 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: when you hear about and when you ask about wasteful 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: government spending, you get some stock answers. People say, yeh, 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: this's the Ministry of Women's Affairs that's wasteful. But just 63 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: before Christmas Nicolas told us that scrapping the ministry would 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: save them fifteen million dollars a year. 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 5: That's it. 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: That's not going to change the economy overnight, is it. 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: But there we go. Then people will say, oh, wasteful 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: government spending. What about ki we build? What about Auckland's 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: light rail, what about that cycling bridge over the Waita Matar. 70 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: But there again, we never actually spent any real money 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: on it other than a bit of seed money and 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: research money, maybe a couple of one hundred million. Because 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: those pipe dreams never happened, so were they wasteful government spending. 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: Let me tell you about real wasteful government spending story 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: that broke today that kai Unger Order is selling turtong 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: a land that it bought for seventy one million dollars 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one, and it's very likely they're 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: going to get their money back. The chief executive of Winton, 79 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: a guy called Chris Men, told The New Zealand Herald 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two that Kayinger Order had significantly 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: outbid eleven other experienced developers, including Winton, for the land. 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: They paid heaps. In fact, he said the taxpayers have 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: paid an absurd amount of money and he would eat 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: his hat if anyone moved into a house on the 85 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 2: land within four years. Well, here we are four years later, 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: Chris will not be eating his hat. They're selling the 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: land because it's excess to needs now. For a while 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: there it was a common problem. Just asked the band 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: six sixty who ended up paying much more than they 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: needed to buy six to sixty Castle Road in to Needin, 91 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: which is the fact where they got their name from. 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: They were in an auction and their main competition was 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: Kayinger Order using taxpayers money, using your money, and every 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: time sixty sixty made a bid, oh the taxpayers beat it. 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: It got to an insane price and eventually six sixty 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: one and they complained about it. Your aura was wasteful 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: government spending writ large. The fact that they're selling this 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: land right now shows you that this government has realized 99 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: that they were out of control back then. And so 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: if you want an example, if you've ever asked about 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: wasteful government spending and mentioned Kying Order more so than 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: the rats of minds like the Ministry of Women's. 103 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: Affairs, News Talk sivy. 104 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: We have an election, ladies, and gentlemen, And it's in November. 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: I think it's about the latest we've had. It's as 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: late as you can really go. And so we have 107 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: an election campaign. Now, what is going to happen in 108 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: this election campaign? What's this election campaign going to be? 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 6: Like? 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: I can tell you right from the start, it's going 111 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: to be long. We're going to be talking about this 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: for the next ten months. But anyway, it's on and 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: it's all go. So what else might happen over the 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: next year. We're going to talk to Lim Hare in 115 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: just a few moments time political commentator. It's news Talk here. 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: It is twelve minutes after five. 117 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in depth 118 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room Love 119 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks, that'd. 120 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Be it's five point fifteen. So the election's coming November seventh, 121 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: of course, when some will refuse to go into negotiations 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: until the final official count lands. He's always done that. 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: So anyway, by that stage, once we finally get into 124 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: some negotiation with something, we're going to be close to Christmas, 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: if not the New year, before we know who's going 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: to leave the country for the next three years. So 127 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Liam here is a political commentator, and joins me nout Liam, 128 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: long time no speak? How are you? Good morning? 129 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 7: I'm very well, good warning to you. 130 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: So first up this this date. I said yesterday, the 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: government just wants to wait for as many green shoots 132 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 2: as possible. Would you say that's the case. 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 7: That's exactly right. It's been the strategy the whole time. 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 7: You know, it's been a rough couple of years, and 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 7: I can tell you as someone who's got a business 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 7: of myself that has been very difficult. Things are turning 137 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 7: it around. There has been a turning of a want 138 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 7: and unemployments predicted to that sort of checking down. So 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 7: they are hoping that they can if they have as 140 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 7: much time as possible, that people will start to feel 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 7: more and more confident. So it is it's about of 142 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 7: weight as it can be according to you know, recent precedent. 143 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 7: We're much more use to October elections in New Zealand, 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 7: recent vintage. But they want to buy as much time 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 7: as possible for the economy to improve as much as possible. 146 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But at the same time we keep on 147 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: hearing that we will we will get election fatigue and 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: then that turns voters off and then people can be 149 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: bothered because they've had enough of it by the time 150 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: we get to November the seventh. 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 7: There's always a risk, and the risk is that if 152 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 7: things don't improve, or if the government becomes more unpopular, 153 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 7: there's more time for that popularity or a road. So 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 7: I mean, there's no there's no such thing as a 155 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 7: short bet in Baltics, and they are taking a big 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: bet on the economy improving and that being the main thing, 157 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 7: the main. 158 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: Driver of voters. 159 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: And we got somebody from Labor at the bump and 160 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: going oh. Over this next election, you're going to hear 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: a lot of disagreements between the coalition parties and I'm thinking, well, 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: of course you are, because this is the period of 163 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: time where they differentiate them differentiate themselves from each other. 164 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 7: Well, what's been really interesting is that you haven't seen 165 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 7: the minor party collapse that you normally see from a 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 7: coalition government or any type of government. Are the MMP 167 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 7: and that is because the Wilson Peters and David Seawall 168 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 7: have been differentiating themselves constantly throughout the last two and 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 7: a half years. It's been very difficult for Christopher Luxan 170 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 7: and It's one of the reasons why National hasn't sort 171 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 7: of had the big bounce that governments normally have at 172 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 7: the end of their first term. It's because they have 173 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 7: Muldson and David sea Will have figured out that the 174 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 7: way to continue to maintain their party support while government 175 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 7: is to be as difficult as possible, to be continued 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 7: to be bad boys. And I think that this is 177 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 7: the first election where the minor parties of the coalition 178 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 7: are going in was been pretty strong, so if that's true, 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 7: but it's been happening already. 180 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: And Labor, I mean, what's going to happen with Labor? 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean they don't want to work with t Pati Mali. 182 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: They actually want to destroy to Palti Mari and when 183 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: all the seats they do want to work with the Greens, 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: But in that case will they ever be able to 185 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: get enough seats? 186 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 7: This is the big thing for National. If TPM are 187 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 7: quite politically toxic to the most of the voting population 188 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 7: but quite popular with the hardcore of the left, and 189 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 7: that is a classic what we though would call a 190 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 7: wedge in politics. And if National can tie Labour's fate 191 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 7: that are TPM, that is a potential big driver of 192 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 7: votes for National and the same way that the then 193 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 7: unpopularity of the Greens that's changed, so it's been two 194 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 7: thousand and two the Greens require unpopular in the United 195 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 7: Future was able to ride that about sort of a 196 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 7: big big bumps in the polls as National can in 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 7: the same way from Time Labor to TPM. That's the 198 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 7: type of thing that might drive centrist voters to National 199 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 7: on the basis that is there any way to keep 200 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 7: TPM out of government. So there's a big f about 201 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 7: this election. 202 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: Oh lots of and that's what makes elections fascinating them. 203 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. That's the 204 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: here political commentator. So these green shoots that Christopher Luxton 205 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: is looking for over the next ten months to strengthen 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: his election campaign, we've got another one coming out today. 207 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: Yesterday we had the services sector that was good. Today 208 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about builders. Builder jobs are up 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: and that's next. It's five nineteen. It's US Talk Tomb. 210 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day Early 211 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and One Route Love where you 212 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: Live News Talks that'd be It's. 213 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: Five twenty one. It appears the confidence is returning to 214 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: the construction sector. Seek As released its monthly job report 215 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: and builders are the big winner. Job ads for construction 216 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: jump three point four percent from November to December. Trades 217 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: and engineering saw increases of one point five to two 218 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: point six percent compared to last year. There are wait 219 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: for this, forty three percent more job ads for builders. 220 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: And Malcolm Fleming is the CEO of Certified Builders New Zealand, 221 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: a joints here this morning and morning to Malcolm. 222 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 8: Good morning Andrew. 223 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: So these jobs are they sort of like one offs 224 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: or are they longer term employment contracts showing a longer 225 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: term security. 226 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 8: Look those numbers from Secretary encouraging and the whole they've 227 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 8: being reflected on what we're seeing as well. So part 228 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 8: of the membership benefit of these on Certified Builders is 229 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 8: that our members have access to employment agreements and across 230 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 8: January they're running a twenty percent up on what the 231 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 8: twenty twenty five averages were, and given that January is 232 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 8: a typically slow month, those numbers already encouraging. 233 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Where are all the projects that these jobs are coming from. 234 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 8: Right across the country. We've been talking about over the 235 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 8: last couple of years that the likes of the South 236 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 8: Island patches of North Wuld have been sort of been 237 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 8: the top points of construction. We're starting to see this 238 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 8: generally fly across more balanced across the country. 239 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: We heard some complaints last year, of course, that the 240 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: government stopped a lot of projects on their capex, on 241 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: their actual their assey. It's either you know, fixing out 242 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: hospitals or building state houses and stuff like that, and 243 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: that put a lot of the construction of the industry 244 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: and the builders out of a job. Is that starting 245 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: to pick up or not. 246 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, that was really unfortunate, the slow down or the 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 8: stoppage of projects that were already in train, and that 248 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 8: affected the industry really badly, about fifteen thousand jobs lost 249 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 8: over across that eighteen months. We're starting to see that 250 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 8: pick up now from central government projects coming onto market, 251 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 8: and we saw snippets of that late last year with 252 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 8: schoolworks coming through, defense housing, the Upper Norkland Live Imports, 253 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 8: naval base, and that's starting to sort of go on 254 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 8: through with hospitals and things. So we're starting to see 255 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 8: those signs. But in general, in terms of homeowners as well, 256 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 8: we're starting to feel more confident about taking on projects 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 8: and that confidence hasn't been there for quite sometime. 258 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: And the other big story from this week is that 259 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: Fletcher's sold off their construction arm to a French company 260 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: called Vancy. Will will that affect building jobs or will 261 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Vancy just take up what Fletches was already doing well? 262 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 8: Is a really sad story. Were disappointed to see the 263 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 8: loss of the features as a commercial contractor. They haven't 264 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 8: been in the vertical space for a while, that's in 265 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 8: terms of buildings, and I've been sorely missed. And they 266 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 8: had a bad run back in the twenty tens with 267 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 8: three main projects in particular, it didn't go well for them, 268 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 8: Justice Present and christ Church further too and Auckland Commercial Bay, 269 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 8: International Convention Center which is just open. So the expertise 270 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 8: has been sadly missed in that space and I've been 271 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 8: in the storm the horizontal doing the infrastructure. That particular 272 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 8: work will be picked will continue on, just under a 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 8: new name. But really sweet to see a real construction 274 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 8: icon like Fleacher out of the commercial. 275 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely space, Absolutely Malcolm, and I thank you so much 276 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: for your time. Malcolm Fleming. Here is a certified build 277 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: a CEO. It's news b It's five twenty five. 278 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: The early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 279 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: by News Dogs B. 280 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: News Talks B. I'm becoming more and more impressed with 281 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: Mark Carney as time goes on. Mark Carney, of course, 282 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime Minister wrote a really really great book 283 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: of what should I read over something called Values. Anyway. 284 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: I said that Mark Canney is very impressive yesday on 285 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: the radio, and I got a text It said the 286 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Carne is just Trude over but without Candie, which is 287 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: a very snappy one liner fed to my text by 288 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: the presidents came and nowhere near the truth. Carney yesterday 289 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: gave a speech to Davos that may go down in 290 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: history as one of the big ones, will go down 291 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: as being era defining. He said, the great powers can 292 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: go along alone. They have the size and the money 293 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: and the military to do whatever they want. But that 294 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that the middle powers don't exist. He made 295 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: a call for countries like Canada and Australia and South 296 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: Korea and others to build strategic autonomy and collaborate to 297 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: stabilize the global system. Don't worry about the big guys. 298 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: The middle guys need to talk together. He argued that 299 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: middle powers could no longer rely on great powers to 300 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: maintain order. In fact, they appear hell bent on sewing disorder. 301 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Carne framed the moment is a pivot point. Either middle 302 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: powers coordinate to build a more resilient, cooperative system, or 303 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: the world sides deeper into fragmentation. And then he said 304 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: some words that completely freaked out the conspiracy class. He said, 305 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: the old error is gone, and it's time to build 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: a new world order. But his new world order is 307 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: not built on power and subjugation and pedophiles and whatever. 308 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: His new world order is based on cooperation amongst the 309 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: middle nations. He named the rupture. He explained its causes 310 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: and argued that the future will be shaped not by 311 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: superpowers alone, but by coalitions of capable, mid sized nations. 312 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was brilliant. You know, Trump's speech for 313 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: seventy two minutes was not brilliant. Cannie is the smart 314 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: guy who might just win at the end of the movie. 315 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: Now we are not a middle power. We're not even 316 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: a small power anymore. The world order has changed, and 317 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: the way New Zealand used to virtual signal no longer 318 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: carries any weight. It's time to find our friends and 319 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: maximize our relationships with them, because the elephants are dancing 320 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: and us mice need to find a safe place so 321 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: we don't get crushed. Five twenty nine. The auroras are 322 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: happening at the moment because there's a very big space storm. 323 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: What a pity nobody can see it because there's a 324 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: very big weather storm right now. Curarently this is the 325 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: biggest solar radiation storm since two thousand and three. So 326 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: if you've got some clear skies at night, look up 327 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: for the space storm hasn't been falling with our power. 328 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: But that's good much. We can now in the United 329 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: States very shortly to talk about what happened at Darbos 330 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: and Lisa Cook, who Trump wants out of the Fed Reserve, 331 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: which is a big, big case. We'll talk about that. 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: We've got news in Sport. Next, you've got early edition. 333 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens. 334 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with 335 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof love. Where you live used 336 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: talk said, be a. 337 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 9: Nice sun kiss can a little resculena. You're just like this, 338 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 9: holding like the purbos. 339 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Understand Yes, summer is an. 340 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Over good morning. She's just seeing summers and over Yet 341 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: she's right because summer hasn't even started. Let's be honest 342 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: about it. I've got a text here. We're camping on 343 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: the Coromanda of the eighties, washed out and came home 344 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: three years in a row. It's a bastard of a place. 345 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: Haven't been back in forty years. As you go back, 346 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: but don't go back in January. I said this yesterday. 347 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: If you noticed it. Every January we have a tropical storm. 348 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: Then February and March comes along, long clear period. So 349 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: if you've got anybody coming from overseas, tell them don't 350 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: come in January. Don't come Christmas, come in February. Now, 351 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: the text thru says that Cardi is good, but he's 352 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: not saying anything that's not fairly obvious. True, but it's 353 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: the way he says it. He's a very good writer. 354 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: But also who else is saying it? No one else 355 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: is saying it. Everybody thinks that when you've got something 356 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: like the current American administration, you have to fight fire 357 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: with fire. We'll do a tariffs against their tariffs. But 358 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: Carnie's talking about a work around. He's talking about saying, Okay, 359 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: just let the big elephants just do their thing and 360 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: we've just got to do a workaround and work together. 361 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: So at least he is one person saying this sort 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: of stuff. And finally John O. Riddler, the live Ocean 363 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: swimm and the guy who's going all the way from 364 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: Northen to Wellington, a one thousand miles swim to raise 365 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: awareness about how dirty our seas have become and how 366 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: threatened the life in there is. Of course he's paused 367 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: his swim, he's paused himself and he's just off to 368 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: Ta Kaka. He's already swim in an awfully long way, 369 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: really quite quickly. But his camp yesterday reported that he 370 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: may start up the swim again today because the conditions 371 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: are easing. And we'll keep you in touch with John 372 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Riddler as he heads to Wellington. It is twenty two 373 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: to six z be I'm trying to go around the 374 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: country to Duaneedin. First. Callum Proctor, Good morning to you morning, Andrew. 375 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: We've got a central Otago track closing for most of 376 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: the year. 377 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 8: Here. 378 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 10: This is part of the Frankton Track, popular walking and 379 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 10: cycling tracks being shut while a new wastewater pipe's being installed. 380 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 10: It's part of the Queenstown Cycle trail network, so this 381 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 10: will be a blow for a lot of people. The 382 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 10: Queenstown Lakes SISTERCT Council's laying this pipe in Queenstown and 383 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 10: Franklin's strength and its wastewater resilience also to cut over 384 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 10: flow risk and support population growth. The council says the 385 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 10: track will remain closed until November. It'll briefly reopen for 386 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 10: the Queenstown Marathon weekend, then shut again in early December. 387 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 10: They do say the projects expected to finish earlier than 388 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 10: initially planned, six months earlier in fact, and it's essential 389 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 10: for the region's long term nets. How's your weather, Heavy 390 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 10: showers for Queenstound twenty one to need and rain easing 391 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 10: today at eighteen. 392 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: It'd be nice if you have some clear sky so 393 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: you can see this aurora. But thank you so much. 394 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Callum Claire Sherwood from Christuge, good morning to you. Good morning, 395 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: So christ Jug has some Australians visiting. 396 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 11: Well, So we hope christ Church gen Z's new campaign 397 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 11: it's named Made for It is putting the spotlight on 398 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 11: our upgraded infrastructure and the busy event calendar where we're 399 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 11: quickly filling up aiming to lure travelers, specifically from Australia's 400 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 11: East coast. This is anchored by the opening of our 401 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 11: new stadium. Of course, we're counting down to April. We've 402 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 11: got marketing general manager for christ Church gen Z, Steve 403 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 11: Mackie Hanson, saying attracting more Ossie's has been a long 404 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 11: been a top priority here. He says, that's where the 405 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 11: market is and they're more likely to travel here. Macki 406 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 11: Hanson says it's also a priority for Central government and 407 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 11: they've received five hundred thousand dollars from the Events Boost 408 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 11: Fund to target Eastern Australians. Christ Church g and Z 409 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 11: wants to see hotels, restaurants, shops and attractions filled with 410 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 11: Ossie visitors ultimately spending money here. 411 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: Because your weather so beautiful. How is it today? 412 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 11: Oh sad to say, rain heavy falls easing by evening 413 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 11: but will remain overcast, strong northeasterlies to go with it. 414 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 11: The high is eighteen. 415 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: Max told Joints me from Wellington. Good morning, Max, Good 416 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: morning your emergency department at crisis Point. 417 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Wellington Hospital. It feels like everyone has a horror 418 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 5: story about having to go to this ed it's always 419 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: ranked among the worst in the country for wait times. 420 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 5: Apparently now it's almost a given. The demand is outstripping 421 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: staff on duty the number of available beds. They call 422 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: this their code. Only about half of patients are being 423 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 5: treated and moved on within six hours, only about half. 424 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 5: About ten people a day leave Wellington Hospital's ED without 425 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 5: being treated at all. It is a crisis. It was 426 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: a labor that retrieved these latest figures to make a point. 427 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 5: Health Minister Simeon Brown agrees. He says Wellington's ED had 428 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: unacceptable wait times and is among the worst performing in 429 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 5: the country, if not the worst. There has been additional 430 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: funding set aside by the government for Wellington. It doesn't 431 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 5: seem to be making much of an impact yet, but 432 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 5: Simeon Brown says wait and see. The hospital says wait 433 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 5: and see. I think it's fair to say a lot 434 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: of people in this city won't go to ED unless 435 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: they're dying or have a limb dangling from where it's 436 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 5: supposed to be. 437 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: All right, how's you weather? 438 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: Periods of rain and gusty Win twenty one the high. 439 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: And I thank you so much Mixtell for your marvelous 440 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: language and painting. Such a picture. And now now we're 441 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: joined by neither written man who from Auckland. Good morning 442 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: to you dangling got me, yeah exactly. Now you've become 443 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: the weather and flooding experts. What's happening the weather? 444 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 12: Okay, look, we know that the states of emergency across 445 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 12: the Gisban district. They're still in place. Bay of Plenty, Coramandel, 446 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 12: fung at A, thousands of people without power currently now 447 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 12: in the Gisban district, State Highway thirty five that's completely closed. 448 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 12: Bay of Plenty, State Highway two closed in several sections 449 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 12: now this is between Todunga and Pidor and in Thiams Coramandel. 450 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 12: We've got that extensive flooding again closing, you know, like 451 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 12: large sections of State Highway twenty five now south of Todunga. 452 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 12: Several people are stuck in cars in floodwaters on white 453 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 12: Or Road and in Whitecuttle. State Highway one is closed 454 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 12: now that's between Tito and Tukotor. That's due to multiple 455 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 12: fallen trees. So yes, still not good, but that worst 456 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 12: of the weather is over today. It's still going to 457 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 12: be raining showers hopefully peter. 458 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: Round over the mid sol from the poside of an adventure. 459 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: There's got to be a morning after if we can 460 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: make it through the storm. 461 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 12: Sing it baby? 462 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: Do I need to ask you about the weather? 463 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 12: Rain tropical? Do you know it's currently twenty twenty one 464 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 12: degrees so it's like you're sitting in Fiji. But look 465 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 12: that rain will lease to showers today in Auckland. 466 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: Very good stuff, New stalzb It is now seventeen to six. 467 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: Just want to mention a couple of people. First, Jack 468 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: Oliver Hood. Now Jack is a thirty seven year old 469 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: UK com barrister who drowned at Hahey Beach in the 470 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: corimandal earlier this week. And Jack was very respected. He 471 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: worked on major criminal appeals like the Mark Lundey case 472 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: and the Gael Maloney case, and also represented LEGO in 473 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: a trademark dispute with Zero. He is a shining star 474 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: of the legal profession, not only because he was a 475 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: very good lawyer, but because he was one of our 476 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: up and coming academics. And here's the thing about Jack, 477 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: this is why I'm mentioning him. I knew him, I 478 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: met him, but I met him when he was a 479 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: kid because he was the son of Doug Hood, and 480 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: Doug Hood was a big figure in the Flying Nun scene. 481 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: He started learning tours. He brought out artists like New 482 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: Water and Billy Bragg. Now Doug pass last September. And 483 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: now his son Jack Oliver Hood, very smart, very lovely kid, 484 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: thirty seven year y old now has gone as well. 485 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: So it's a double tragedy for that family in one year. 486 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: And I wish you all the best. And the other 487 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: person to mention is Rob Hurst. And Rob was the 488 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: drummer for Midnight Oil. He formed the bare back of 489 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: the seventies. When you think of Midnight Oil, you think 490 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: of Peter Garrett. But Rob was the real driving force, 491 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 2: big fighter for the environment and most of all an 492 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: extraordinary drummer. And did you know that Pete Townsend from 493 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: the Who once said that after Keith Moon, Rob was 494 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: the greatest drummer in rock and just after Midnight Oil 495 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: called it a day. Three years ago he found out 496 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: he had pancreatic cancer, which he finally succumbed to Rob Hurst, 497 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: great drummer, good bloke, Rest in peace. 498 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 7: All right. 499 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: On the way McCann from the United States of America, 500 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: And in fact we'll go to Iowa to talk about 501 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: the economy of the world. Right now, it's News Talk ZB. 502 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 503 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business thirteen. 504 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: To stick to the abouted States, we go. Mitch mcchanical 505 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: bought it to here. Good morning, Andrew, how are you 506 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: very well? The much anticipated Trump speeched That's what did 507 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: he say? 508 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, he gave a very long speech at the World 509 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 13: Economic Forum this swarum this morning. He covered a wide 510 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 13: range of topics, as he often does, but there were 511 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 13: a few key headlines from that speech. Andrew, if we 512 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 13: look at Greenland first, he said Denmark should be giving 513 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 13: Greenland to the United States and that no other country 514 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 13: can secure it. But he also said that he would 515 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 13: not be using force. Now, this is something that many 516 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 13: NATO countries have been concerned about in recent days, whether 517 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 13: the US would simply fly in with the military equipment. 518 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 13: He said that won't be happening. But if they don't 519 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 13: acquire or they don't get given Greenland, the USA will 520 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 13: certainly remember it. He also had some policy he announced 521 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 13: around capping credit card interest rates here in the US, 522 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 13: and he also said he made some news where he 523 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 13: said there'll be prosecutions for the twenty twenty election, which 524 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 13: he is still six years later saying was stolen. So 525 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 13: some prosecutions coming there. It's fair to say he's likely 526 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 13: to have a frosty reception in Switzerland. He also chose 527 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 13: to take aim other leaders like Mark Carney and Emmanuel 528 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 13: Macron of France. 529 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: All right, Meanwhile, there's fires burning back in the mainland 530 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: of the United States as well, with a very big 531 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: court case about the power of the president over the 532 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve. This is featuring Lisa Cook. What's happening there. 533 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. The Supreme Court is hearing arguments on 534 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 13: Donald Trump's attempts to fire one of the Federal Reserve 535 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 13: governors today, Lisa Cook. Now, Donald Trump has had a 536 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 13: problem with the Fed for many months now because they 537 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 13: haven't been lowering interest ratets as fast and as often 538 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 13: as he would like. So he's trying to fire one 539 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 13: of the governors. But the pretext to this is he 540 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 13: saying that she's committed mortgage fraud on a number of 541 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 13: her properties. He's not firing her because of anything she's 542 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 13: done on the Board of Governors, according to Donald Trump. Instead, 543 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 13: he's using this as mortgage fraud. So that's going to 544 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 13: the Supreme Court today, and it's an incredibly important case 545 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 13: for presidential power in this country. We're not going to 546 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 13: get a result today, but they are hearing arguments in 547 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 13: Washington at the moment. Me, my, you're a bit chilly, 548 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 13: are we what? I woke up this morning? It was 549 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 13: minus eleven degrees here in New York. America's National Weather 550 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 13: Service has imposed winter storm watchers for much of the 551 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 13: country around twenty states in the coming days. ACU Weathers 552 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 13: is potentially hundreds of thousands of people may go without 553 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 13: power and heat for days. Andrew. Earlier this week there 554 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 13: was a piloup because of white out conditions in Michigan, 555 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 13: involving more than one hundred vehicles. 556 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I've seen some remarkable videos on social media 557 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: of cars cascading downhills on Black Eyes as a tragedy. 558 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: Mitchell mccamb from the United States of America, thank you 559 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: so much for your time today. 560 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 13: Thanks, Andrew the best. 561 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: It is ten to six, zibby. So obviously it's a 562 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: big story of the world at the moment, with the 563 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: President of the United States coming after Greenland saying he 564 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: will not use excessive force. 565 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: Now I'm seeking immediate negotiations to once again discuss the 566 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: acquisition of Greenland by the United States. We probably won't 567 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: get anything unless. 568 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: They just I to use excessive. 569 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: Strength and force, where we would be frankly unstoppable. 570 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 8: But I won't do that. 571 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 9: I don't have to use force. 572 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to use force. 573 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 8: I won't use force. 574 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 9: All the United. 575 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 3: States is asking for is a place called Greenland. 576 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: And University of Iowa economics professor and Villamill joins me 577 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: now from the United statescon good morning to you, and 578 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: good morning. This is an economic forum, and this is 579 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: what it's not about geopolitics and land grabs as such. 580 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: But we are looking at a tariff war between Europe 581 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: and America. Now, how real is that threatened? How do 582 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: you expect the EU to react? 583 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 6: Uh, the tariff war is extremely concerning. You could do 584 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 6: a lot of economic damage to. 585 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 9: The world. 586 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: And that's what happens when you have a a you know, 587 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 6: global taraf So so I'm quite concerned about it. 588 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: All right, How would it affect the Americans? I mean, 589 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: if the you went through with this, could the UA's 590 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: economy take the hit that they're talking about in Europe? 591 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 6: Yes, both sides will though I mean, that's the problem 592 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 6: with tariffs. Everybody loses, so it's not something that we 593 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 6: should be doing. It is encouraging today to hear that 594 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 6: President Trump said he won't take Greenland by force, but 595 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 6: there are a lot of other tools on both sides, 596 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 6: meaning tariffs. You know, how did this most recent iteration start. 597 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 6: Trump promise to put tariffs on eight European countries currently 598 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 6: at ten percent until February first, and then ratcheting up 599 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 6: to twenty five percent. So that will be huge for 600 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: those countries. They had to react, and they now have 601 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 6: a tool that they can use in order. It's called 602 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 6: the europe Anti Coercion Instrument where they can reply. 603 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: So okay, So the United States markets rebounded after the 604 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: prison said he wouldn't use force to acquire Greenland, And 605 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: it shows you just how powerful his words are. 606 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 9: Doesn't it to not extend how powerful his words are, 607 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 9: but to an even larger extent, how powerful international capital 608 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 9: markets are. 609 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 6: President Trump has said that he is basically all powerful 610 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 6: and he is only limited by you know, kind of. 611 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 9: His own. 612 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 12: His own views. 613 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 9: That's not true. 614 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 6: The US has a big debt and deficit, and it 615 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 6: needs to finance that debt. And deficit, and what we 616 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 6: saw yesterday. The reason that markets decl is because interest 617 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 6: rates went up. And President Trump is not sensitive to 618 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 6: a lot of things. He is sensitive to market and 619 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 6: when the markets. 620 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely he is sensitive to markets. Out I've been 621 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: in a little University of Iowa economics professor I thank 622 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: you for your time today. It is six minutes to. 623 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Six on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition 624 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live 625 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: News Talk said, be. 626 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: It's time for me to go and head out into 627 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: the light to drizzle, which that the rain was persistent 628 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: all day yesterday was really was quite incredible. Happens every January, 629 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: doesn't we get a tropical storm? And Mike Hoskins with 630 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: us Morning Morning. 631 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 14: Quick question, is our Trump's words really all powerful? Or 632 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 14: are we just thick? Because honestly, did you, honestly, heart 633 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 14: of hearts, believe he was ever going to invade Greenland? No, 634 00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 14: of course not. 635 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 7: So. 636 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 14: Therefore, given he's been around for well, forget the other 637 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 14: four years, an entire year for a second time round, 638 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 14: and given he uses the same trick literally every time, 639 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 14: why are we still falling for the same He's just 640 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 14: the metal with us. 641 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: He just hears stuff. You know, Carne wrote a speech 642 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: which I'm really Late's speech was seventy two minutes long. 643 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there was nothing written down by it. 644 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: He just throws out some words, watches the reaction, and 645 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: then decides what to do next. 646 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 14: Yeah, he was never invaded in Greenland. It'll all work 647 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 14: out well, it'll eventually in some way shape or form, 648 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 14: because at the basis of everything he says is a 649 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 14: seed of common sense, and that is that Greenland needs 650 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 14: a bit of a look at in terms of security. 651 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 14: Everyone agrees with that, no one disagrees with that. Then 652 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 14: all the hyperbole comes in. Everyone out NATO. 653 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: NATO has spent some money. 654 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 14: That's the weirdest thing, isn't it. Anyway, we'll have more 655 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 14: on that. Tony Brown's with us this morning. By the way, 656 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 14: you all black coach. 657 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you know something that nobody else knows. But that's 658 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: your show, and I thank you so much. Make Asking 659 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: next and News is Spot a few others time. My 660 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: thanks to producer Kinsey. 661 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 662 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 663 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,