1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:14,147 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB throw on one hook in, Let's see 3 00:00:14,147 --> 00:00:15,027 Speaker 1: if he's got the two. 4 00:00:16,147 --> 00:00:17,027 Speaker 2: He's got the two. 5 00:00:18,667 --> 00:00:28,027 Speaker 3: Plus still god Africauntry Wister plus see remains den what 6 00:00:28,227 --> 00:00:30,587 Speaker 3: eighty five? Yeah, So that was the last time he 7 00:00:30,907 --> 00:00:33,427 Speaker 3: was in the ring or in the octagon. Rather, you 8 00:00:33,507 --> 00:00:36,467 Speaker 3: can watch UFC Fight Night in Saudi Arabia live on 9 00:00:36,907 --> 00:00:41,187 Speaker 3: ESPN and stream on skysport Now from six o'clock tomorrow morning. 10 00:00:41,507 --> 00:00:45,067 Speaker 3: Let's bring in Ravender Hernia from UFC on sky Revender, 11 00:00:45,107 --> 00:00:47,067 Speaker 3: thanks for taking the time to chat to us. As always, 12 00:00:47,307 --> 00:00:50,387 Speaker 3: Israel comes in after losing back to back fights for 13 00:00:50,507 --> 00:00:53,707 Speaker 3: the first time in his twenty eight bout professional MMA career. 14 00:00:54,147 --> 00:00:57,027 Speaker 3: What sort of mindset and mentality will he bring into 15 00:00:57,067 --> 00:00:57,387 Speaker 3: this one? 16 00:00:58,867 --> 00:00:59,027 Speaker 1: Oh? 17 00:00:59,147 --> 00:01:01,787 Speaker 2: I think he will come into this obviously wanting a win. 18 00:01:01,867 --> 00:01:04,627 Speaker 2: That's what any fighter would want in this situation. But 19 00:01:04,707 --> 00:01:07,987 Speaker 2: I think the pressure of not having to be fighting 20 00:01:08,027 --> 00:01:10,867 Speaker 2: for a title is a pressure that he probably welcome. 21 00:01:10,987 --> 00:01:15,107 Speaker 2: He's been fighting the last twelve fights straight title fights. 22 00:01:15,267 --> 00:01:17,147 Speaker 2: I mean, they're still a main event, but it's not 23 00:01:17,227 --> 00:01:19,147 Speaker 2: a pay per view, so that pressure is off of him. 24 00:01:19,147 --> 00:01:22,267 Speaker 2: He's fighting nazadene Imovov, who is number five in a division, 25 00:01:22,307 --> 00:01:24,587 Speaker 2: and he's just made a bit of a name of himself, 26 00:01:25,467 --> 00:01:28,787 Speaker 2: having three successful fights last year against top ten guys. 27 00:01:28,907 --> 00:01:31,307 Speaker 2: So I think that the pressure is off is either fight, 28 00:01:31,347 --> 00:01:33,147 Speaker 2: and I think he can, you know, maybe approach this 29 00:01:33,227 --> 00:01:34,387 Speaker 2: fight with a little more freedom. 30 00:01:34,587 --> 00:01:36,707 Speaker 3: Do you think he feels he has something to prove 31 00:01:36,827 --> 00:01:38,187 Speaker 3: after successive defeats. 32 00:01:39,387 --> 00:01:42,427 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, And I think even if he wasn't defeated, 33 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:44,227 Speaker 2: he still feels like he has something to prove it. 34 00:01:44,747 --> 00:01:46,587 Speaker 2: You know, that's the name of the game. But I 35 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:51,427 Speaker 2: think for him it'll be motivating, uplifting and a win 36 00:01:51,587 --> 00:01:54,787 Speaker 2: could you know, definitely bring up a spirit. But you know, 37 00:01:54,867 --> 00:01:57,107 Speaker 2: at the same time, the reality of this one means 38 00:01:57,747 --> 00:02:00,867 Speaker 2: that he's another, you know, one fight or two maybe 39 00:02:00,907 --> 00:02:03,467 Speaker 2: away from another title shot, which is absolutely where he 40 00:02:03,467 --> 00:02:03,947 Speaker 2: would want to be. 41 00:02:04,227 --> 00:02:05,547 Speaker 3: I saw some of the media he did in the 42 00:02:05,627 --> 00:02:07,867 Speaker 3: lead up to morning, and one of the things he said, 43 00:02:07,907 --> 00:02:09,987 Speaker 3: which I thought what was interesting, was this one's for me. 44 00:02:10,227 --> 00:02:12,427 Speaker 3: I'm doing this for me. I often fight for other 45 00:02:12,467 --> 00:02:14,907 Speaker 3: people from a team, a family, et cetera. This one's 46 00:02:14,947 --> 00:02:16,907 Speaker 3: for me. Did that kind of resonate with you as well. 47 00:02:17,667 --> 00:02:19,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and he hasn't kind of been in that 48 00:02:20,027 --> 00:02:22,587 Speaker 2: mindset for a little while. So, you know, when he 49 00:02:22,667 --> 00:02:26,227 Speaker 2: fought Sean Strickland, when he fought Dricus Duplasi and was unsuccessful, 50 00:02:26,707 --> 00:02:29,187 Speaker 2: you know, he was going through having made a movie, 51 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:32,147 Speaker 2: having you know, things were going on externally for him. 52 00:02:32,507 --> 00:02:33,907 Speaker 2: So for him to come into this phone and say 53 00:02:33,947 --> 00:02:36,707 Speaker 2: that this is for me and you know, having that 54 00:02:36,827 --> 00:02:39,307 Speaker 2: to prove and nothing else kind of you know, being 55 00:02:39,347 --> 00:02:42,147 Speaker 2: a hindrance on him makes an absolute difference in terms 56 00:02:42,187 --> 00:02:44,067 Speaker 2: of his mindset coming. And even though we know that 57 00:02:44,147 --> 00:02:47,267 Speaker 2: when he comes into these fights psychologically he's always so 58 00:02:47,467 --> 00:02:49,787 Speaker 2: very strong. Well that's the way he likes to, you know, 59 00:02:49,907 --> 00:02:51,147 Speaker 2: perceive himself to the public. 60 00:02:51,227 --> 00:02:56,507 Speaker 3: We just seem to have lost Ravi there right midstream. 61 00:02:56,547 --> 00:02:59,307 Speaker 3: We'll get Andy to get her back because we wanted 62 00:02:59,307 --> 00:03:00,627 Speaker 3: to get we wanted to get the rest of that. 63 00:03:02,787 --> 00:03:05,227 Speaker 3: So we're just trying to get Ravi back on the line. 64 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:08,187 Speaker 3: It's just if we can do that. So tomorrow morning 65 00:03:08,307 --> 00:03:11,387 Speaker 3: from six on ESPN as where you can pick up 66 00:03:12,267 --> 00:03:16,947 Speaker 3: UFC Fight Night in Saudi Arabia with Israel Disna fighting 67 00:03:17,147 --> 00:03:21,707 Speaker 3: the French with a bit of Russian background. Nasor Deen 68 00:03:22,147 --> 00:03:25,667 Speaker 3: Imovov at fight night in Saudi Arabia. I think we've 69 00:03:25,667 --> 00:03:28,507 Speaker 3: got Ravi back, so we can bring her back in 70 00:03:28,707 --> 00:03:32,947 Speaker 3: I think maybe just a bad reception area or something similar. 71 00:03:33,027 --> 00:03:35,747 Speaker 3: So let's yep, we can bring it back. Rabi. We 72 00:03:35,907 --> 00:03:37,827 Speaker 3: just lost it there. But I was just going to 73 00:03:37,907 --> 00:03:40,427 Speaker 3: ask about whether there was ever a chance in your 74 00:03:40,467 --> 00:03:42,987 Speaker 3: mind that Israel might have called her a day. What's 75 00:03:43,027 --> 00:03:45,787 Speaker 3: seven years in UFC mighty have called it a day? 76 00:03:47,307 --> 00:03:51,947 Speaker 2: Yeah? Possibly, I mean seven years at any job as 77 00:03:51,987 --> 00:03:54,027 Speaker 2: a long fought battle. But you know, when you think 78 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,547 Speaker 2: about the sport and the demand that that has on 79 00:03:56,627 --> 00:04:00,107 Speaker 2: your body and you know where's you're down, it really does. 80 00:04:00,147 --> 00:04:02,267 Speaker 2: And then when you kind of get to the pinnacle, 81 00:04:03,067 --> 00:04:04,747 Speaker 2: you know, when you're the champion, you've been a champion 82 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:06,147 Speaker 2: for so long, and then you get a couple of 83 00:04:06,187 --> 00:04:08,427 Speaker 2: long as you're kind of you know, looking on the 84 00:04:08,547 --> 00:04:10,707 Speaker 2: other side of things. So I wouldn't I wouldn't blame him. 85 00:04:10,707 --> 00:04:13,107 Speaker 2: You know, obviously, financially he's probably set up for life. 86 00:04:13,187 --> 00:04:15,907 Speaker 2: He's helped set a Stanley up too, So what is 87 00:04:15,947 --> 00:04:18,147 Speaker 2: there no kind of left to prove? And I think 88 00:04:18,307 --> 00:04:21,387 Speaker 2: but now, like you said, he wants to prove something 89 00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:24,187 Speaker 2: to himself. It's no longer about you know, I need 90 00:04:24,267 --> 00:04:25,787 Speaker 2: to do this for my family, I need to do this, 91 00:04:25,867 --> 00:04:27,427 Speaker 2: for the fans to meet, to me, to me, it's 92 00:04:27,747 --> 00:04:29,587 Speaker 2: basically just him and the love of the sport. 93 00:04:30,067 --> 00:04:34,267 Speaker 3: So let's talk about his opponent tomorrow. Nasadine Imovov joined 94 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:37,027 Speaker 3: at UFC in twenty twenty a seven two record one 95 00:04:37,107 --> 00:04:39,227 Speaker 3: note contest. What sort of fighter is he and what 96 00:04:39,307 --> 00:04:41,347 Speaker 3: are the main threats that he poses? 97 00:04:42,627 --> 00:04:45,627 Speaker 2: Well, you know, despite being you know, from Dugastan, where 98 00:04:45,627 --> 00:04:47,427 Speaker 2: we all know, you know, the best wrestlers in the 99 00:04:47,467 --> 00:04:51,507 Speaker 2: world come from, and the likes of kabeb Azarmakachev, he's 100 00:04:51,587 --> 00:04:53,827 Speaker 2: very much a stand up fighter. He's based in France 101 00:04:54,747 --> 00:04:57,627 Speaker 2: and has you know, come together with a new team 102 00:04:57,787 --> 00:05:00,347 Speaker 2: to kind of find Trune no skills, he's a striker, 103 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:03,227 Speaker 2: he's a stand up fighter, but he is quite incompetent 104 00:05:03,307 --> 00:05:05,307 Speaker 2: on the ground as well. We saw that against the 105 00:05:05,507 --> 00:05:08,947 Speaker 2: likes of Brendan Allen. Brendan Allen in his last fight 106 00:05:10,027 --> 00:05:12,187 Speaker 2: is a grappler in the middleweight division and he totally 107 00:05:12,267 --> 00:05:15,227 Speaker 2: nullified anything that Brendan Allen brought to him, which shows 108 00:05:15,267 --> 00:05:18,027 Speaker 2: that he has great defensive skills. For takedowns. But we 109 00:05:18,107 --> 00:05:20,587 Speaker 2: know that Israela Dathsonia doesn't bring that kind of fight either, 110 00:05:20,627 --> 00:05:25,227 Speaker 2: so I'm expecting a stand and bang. Nazodi Imovov likes 111 00:05:25,267 --> 00:05:27,027 Speaker 2: to fight a little bit shorter. He has a long 112 00:05:27,067 --> 00:05:30,147 Speaker 2: reach seventy five, whereas I think is He has the 113 00:05:30,387 --> 00:05:33,707 Speaker 2: advantage of five inches there. So I'm expecting a stand 114 00:05:33,747 --> 00:05:36,307 Speaker 2: and bang. But Nadin he's not afraid to get into 115 00:05:36,347 --> 00:05:38,627 Speaker 2: the pocket, He's not afraid to get close. He's happy to, 116 00:05:39,467 --> 00:05:42,027 Speaker 2: you know, have those punches coming his way to give 117 00:05:42,187 --> 00:05:44,347 Speaker 2: what he needs to do. He's very slick on with 118 00:05:44,467 --> 00:05:47,427 Speaker 2: his boxing, so I'm expecting a stand and bang, But 119 00:05:47,467 --> 00:05:50,507 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised coming up against a fighter like 120 00:05:50,627 --> 00:05:53,787 Speaker 2: Israela Dathsonia, where we've seen a blueprint there for takedowns. Obviously, 121 00:05:53,907 --> 00:05:56,387 Speaker 2: his last fight he lost by a renneckad choke to 122 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:59,827 Speaker 2: drink a Stoplasi, so some ground game could be expected, 123 00:06:00,867 --> 00:06:03,907 Speaker 2: but I think Nazadi Imovov will would definitely want to 124 00:06:03,987 --> 00:06:05,747 Speaker 2: prove that he has fire in his hand as well 125 00:06:05,787 --> 00:06:06,107 Speaker 2: as is He. 126 00:06:06,387 --> 00:06:08,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, how big a fight is this for Imovov? Because 127 00:06:08,587 --> 00:06:10,827 Speaker 3: I feel like anyone who fights is He, it's a 128 00:06:10,867 --> 00:06:12,787 Speaker 3: big fight for them. Maybe their biggest ever fight. 129 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:16,067 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, on the Shark UFC on Sky 130 00:06:16,147 --> 00:06:18,627 Speaker 2: this week, my co host Dan Hooker described it as 131 00:06:18,987 --> 00:06:22,747 Speaker 2: life changing for Imovov and he said to us in 132 00:06:22,827 --> 00:06:25,507 Speaker 2: an interview that he's been preparing for Israel a dast 133 00:06:25,547 --> 00:06:27,347 Speaker 2: when you long before he came into the UFC in 134 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and of course when we think back at 135 00:06:29,147 --> 00:06:32,027 Speaker 2: that time, Israel was at as absolute peak as the champions. 136 00:06:32,107 --> 00:06:34,667 Speaker 2: So for Imovov this will be life changing. And to 137 00:06:34,747 --> 00:06:36,907 Speaker 2: have a fighter like Israel a desks when you're on 138 00:06:37,027 --> 00:06:39,707 Speaker 2: your CV serves you. Well, I don't want to call 139 00:06:39,787 --> 00:06:42,547 Speaker 2: israela desk when you're a gatekeeper, but man, a win 140 00:06:42,667 --> 00:06:46,467 Speaker 2: over Israel is an absolute you know, he's going to 141 00:06:46,507 --> 00:06:49,467 Speaker 2: have his name in title tooks in his next couple 142 00:06:49,507 --> 00:06:51,187 Speaker 2: of fights that he can get through Israel. So it's 143 00:06:51,227 --> 00:06:53,707 Speaker 2: absolutely life changing if you know Imoov can get the 144 00:06:53,787 --> 00:06:54,187 Speaker 2: job done. 145 00:06:54,227 --> 00:06:56,467 Speaker 3: All right, Ravia, Well, just before you go, regardless of 146 00:06:56,467 --> 00:06:59,347 Speaker 3: what happens tomorrow morning, Israel adis sonya as thirty five 147 00:06:59,467 --> 00:07:02,667 Speaker 3: years old. Now what do you predict for him? How 148 00:07:02,747 --> 00:07:04,427 Speaker 3: much longer will he go on? 149 00:07:06,507 --> 00:07:08,707 Speaker 2: That's up to him, you know, like we've seen fighters 150 00:07:08,747 --> 00:07:10,947 Speaker 2: go I mean some fighters go up, you know, well 151 00:07:10,987 --> 00:07:13,627 Speaker 2: into their forties and you think to yourself, oh jeez, 152 00:07:13,627 --> 00:07:16,227 Speaker 2: maybe you should hang up the gloves. But you know, 153 00:07:16,387 --> 00:07:18,187 Speaker 2: he's he's one of those fighters when you think of 154 00:07:18,347 --> 00:07:21,227 Speaker 2: like and he likened himself early on in his career 155 00:07:21,307 --> 00:07:24,547 Speaker 2: like Floyd Mayweather, where he likes to, you know, throw 156 00:07:24,627 --> 00:07:27,147 Speaker 2: out hits and not be hit back, you know. So 157 00:07:27,387 --> 00:07:29,867 Speaker 2: defense has always been something that has served him well 158 00:07:29,987 --> 00:07:32,907 Speaker 2: to not take those huts, which means you know, longevity 159 00:07:32,947 --> 00:07:34,707 Speaker 2: in the game. So I mean, it's totally up to him. 160 00:07:36,187 --> 00:07:38,667 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just think that that is up to him. 161 00:07:38,707 --> 00:07:41,667 Speaker 2: But you know, when you're thinking realistically, like I said before, 162 00:07:41,747 --> 00:07:44,187 Speaker 2: in a sport like mma, it does wear you down, 163 00:07:44,307 --> 00:07:46,627 Speaker 2: you know. Israel, he's he doesn't have a family, you know, 164 00:07:46,787 --> 00:07:48,587 Speaker 2: children or things like that, and that might be an 165 00:07:48,587 --> 00:07:50,707 Speaker 2: aspect that he wants to think about too, about settling 166 00:07:50,787 --> 00:07:53,667 Speaker 2: down in life outside of the UFC. And he's absolutely 167 00:07:53,667 --> 00:07:56,707 Speaker 2: set himself in his family up for life. But no, 168 00:07:56,867 --> 00:07:58,507 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think that this is his 169 00:07:59,427 --> 00:08:01,787 Speaker 2: possibly last run at trying to get back on top 170 00:08:02,547 --> 00:08:04,587 Speaker 2: and leave on a good note from the UFC's an 171 00:08:04,587 --> 00:08:07,467 Speaker 2: absolute superstar and the sport and will be no matter 172 00:08:07,467 --> 00:08:08,467 Speaker 2: how long he stays in the game. 173 00:08:08,507 --> 00:08:10,627 Speaker 3: All right, let's see what happens tomorrow morning. Early start 174 00:08:10,667 --> 00:08:13,507 Speaker 3: for all of us. Six am coverage starts tomorrow morning 175 00:08:13,547 --> 00:08:16,147 Speaker 3: on ESPN and Skysport now Rave thanks for joining us 176 00:08:16,147 --> 00:08:17,507 Speaker 3: as always with your great analysis. 177 00:08:18,507 --> 00:08:19,867 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me all the best. 178 00:08:19,987 --> 00:08:22,147 Speaker 3: Robinda Hernia there you can catch her on UFC on 179 00:08:22,307 --> 00:08:24,987 Speaker 3: sky one of the best voices going around in terms 180 00:08:24,987 --> 00:08:28,147 Speaker 3: of your knowledge and insight into UFC and mixed martial 181 00:08:28,227 --> 00:08:31,747 Speaker 3: arts six am tomorrow morning. UFC Fight Night in Saudi 182 00:08:31,787 --> 00:08:37,747 Speaker 3: Arabia featuring Israel ADISONNYA against Nasa Deen Imovoff. 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