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Speaker 1: So game patch ban, we're one year on, six hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty three items seized, eight hundred and fifty six charges,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty eight convictions, thirty eight thousand fewer

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Speaker 1: victims of serious violent crime. Dennis o'reiley's lifetime Black Power

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Speaker 1: member and community advocate, with me this morning, Dennis, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 1: Has it been a success.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a reduction in the number of victims

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Speaker 2: is a good thing. Firearms up the street is a

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Speaker 2: good thing. And not too sure about the seige of clothing.

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Speaker 2: You can get stuff on Temu if you want. It's

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Speaker 2: behavior that counts. But no, this ban has been the

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Speaker 2: patch ban has been well implemented. Paradoxically, it's by the

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Speaker 2: very same leadership team that's been vilified very much. You know,

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Speaker 2: mister Basham was the guy that stared that, and I

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Speaker 2: suppose it's under the direction of mister Costa and Tania Kurra.

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Speaker 2: So it must seem like a I know, it's the

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Speaker 2: fagship policy for the government, and it must seem a

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Speaker 2: bit like a bit of a turd sam which but yes,

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Speaker 2: it has worked.

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Speaker 1: You take the sandwich and just leave the turd on

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Speaker 1: the side. How about the what's on the ground, like

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Speaker 1: gang members, what is their life like without a patch on?

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Speaker 1: Does it do they Does it change dynamics?

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Speaker 2: Well, in the main, I think most people are quite

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Speaker 2: happy about it, not annoying the public and not annoying

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Speaker 2: each other as much. Now there's a bit of betwixt

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Speaker 2: and between, and I was really hoping that we'd be

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Speaker 2: able to put a lot more effort into Remember this

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Speaker 2: is not only the sort of anniversary of the Patch band,

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Speaker 2: it's also the anniversary of the apology by the government

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Speaker 2: for abuse and state care. And when we talk about

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Speaker 2: gangs in New Zealand, we sort of think about Rory

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Speaker 2: and Hemy lurking down at them all. But we've got

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Speaker 2: real gangs now, we've got cartels bringing in mesymphetamine and

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Speaker 2: unprecedented quantities into the country. Yes, and we need to.

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Speaker 1: Sort of telling about what are What have you been

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Speaker 1: telling the members that you speak to about the Mexicans.

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Speaker 2: Well, not just the Mexicans. Well, I'm saying that they

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Speaker 2: will recruit the sons and daughters and grandsons and granddaughters

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Speaker 2: of the current gang Faro. They'll promise them the world

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Speaker 2: through North American hyper materialism, but the only way they'll

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Speaker 2: get to enjoy it is from six feet.

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Speaker 1: Under Dennis o'reiley, former Black Power Member, in fact, lifetime

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Speaker 1: Black Power Member, community advocate.

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