1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: fees apply on that. Now one of Wellington's prominent girls 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: schools has been forced to close a block because it's 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: earthquake prone. Apparently a building report found that thirteen classrooms 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: at Wellington Girls College, which hows about three hundred and 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: eighty students, met only fifteen percent of building standards. The 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: trouble is the Ministry of Education apparently knew about this 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: all the way back in twenty twenty, but never told 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: the school. Julia Davidson is the principal of Wellington Girls, 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: is with us now. Hey Julia, sure, how are you well? 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Thank you? When did you find out? 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: I found out in April April this year? 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you find out? 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: We were sent a document, a ministry document that was 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: basically given some data around the reasons why we should 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: get a new school built. So it was just the 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: little graphics documents that showed where our deficiencies were, and 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: then it looked at each of the blocks and looked 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: at the five minutes petitions related to them, and we 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: suddenly saw that it was likely to be under thirty 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: four percent, which is the magic number for the earthquake 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: prone and it was like, oh, cracky, what have we 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: got here? So that's when we started asking some questions. 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: And what did they say to you when you ask questions? 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: They we asked them if they would get a report 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: done so that we could confirm actually what the number was. 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: And it took a little while for that to happen, 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: and in the end, they didn't do the detailed seismic 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: assessment that the board asked of them. They did a 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: lesser version. So the board commissioned its own detailed sizemic 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: assessment and we got both those reports a bass a 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: week ago. 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Now they say they actually did tell you guys beforehand, 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: but maybe they just didn't tell you. Does that pass 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: well sniff test? 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: I don't. We have no record of being told that. 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: They certainly did talk to us about issues in that 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: block that we're going to need to be addressed in 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: the next twenty years, and we think that we got 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: told that in about twenty fourteen, So it was like, yeah, 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, you've got some stuff that you've got to do. 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: It'll be the next twenty years. But by then, actually 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: the block will be demolished anyway, because it was going 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: to go to make way for the new school. Okay, 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: so I expect that was that sort of general level conversation, 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: So it wasn't a. 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: The Ministry of Education's head of Property Sam Fowler says 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: it has been working with the school on seismic problems 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen, which included advice about the Brook block 50 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: being earthquake prone. My understanding, he says, is that conversations 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: we had with the school over that period not just 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: about Brook but about others too. 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: Definitely, there were definitely conversations to do with earthquakes, earthquake 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: primee blocks. So our Tar block in twenty nineteen we 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: were told was it fifteen percent of new build standards. 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: They came in, they talked to us, they talked through 57 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: the program they were going to implement to make that right, 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: and it had to be demolished. They had to bring 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: classrooms on site. It was a really thorough process. There 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: were fantastic communications all about that. There was I mean 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: it just NOBE even mentioned it in relation to that. 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: So it's about the same years apparently the thing has happened. 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: We were really already did with this other big block 64 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: that was having to come down that was pretty important 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: and was being dealt with plus in with COVID. I 66 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: just think it got lost somewhere. He said, Well, then 67 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: we knew the language, we knew what that meant. We 68 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: would have been equally concerned if we've heard about it 69 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: for another block. 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: He also says that the building is still safe. 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I think this is engineering language. So it's 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: to do with probability. The probability of there being a 73 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: one one thousand year earthquake for the time period that 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: we have to use that before they start remediation is very, 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: very low, and both engineer reports engineer's reports say that, 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: and the board accepts that advice. But there's a separate 77 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: part that follows it, which is that sure, the seismic 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: risk might be low, but if that was to happen, 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: the consequences of that would be severe. And so the 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: board is looking at the consequences and saying they're not 81 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: prepared to take that no if fearing a step further 82 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: and thought about the people in the block. 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't under It's not a whole lot. 84 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: By the way, it's just the top two floors. 85 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: Julia, thank you. I appreciate a best of luck dealing 86 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: with the Ministry of Education. This is the Ministry of Education, 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Julia Davidson, the Wellington Girls College principal. For more from 88 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to news talks. It'd 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio