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Speaker 1: Now an increasing number of couples are ending their marriages

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Speaker 1: later in life. So it turns out, according to stats

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Speaker 1: New Zealand data, almost forty percent of divorces are involving

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Speaker 1: people who are fifty years plus. Divorce lawyer at Shortland Chambers,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Sutton is with us now, Jeremy, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I may share best in chambers?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, which which chambers? Our best in chambers? It's in

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Speaker 2: the same boarding.

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Speaker 1: We'll say it as many times as we can, Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: to undo the damage we've just done. So Bastian Chambers,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that listening. You're seeing this as well

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Speaker 1: as you seeing older people getting divorces.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we are, because once the last child is

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Speaker 2: left home, that's often a catalyst either to see if

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Speaker 2: I've got the same interest or not, and one party

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Speaker 2: is often wanting to continue working in some way so

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Speaker 2: as a consultant, while the other party is keeping your

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Speaker 2: do other things, maybe travel, will maybe spend time with family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it also sometimes that the last kid leaves

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Speaker 1: and then you're stuck looking at that person. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I stopped liking you ages ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, it certainly means you've got to spend more time together,

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Speaker 2: you know. It just it's tough, but it's a reality.

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Speaker 2: I mean for a lot of people, perhaps they saying, well,

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Speaker 2: the house is too big now, Heather, you know, we've

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Speaker 2: we've got to downside to an apartment. And often with

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Speaker 2: house prices over the years being good and kV saves

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Speaker 2: as well, people have often got enough money to have

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Speaker 2: one house each so they can go to line, they

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Speaker 2: can be independent. And and the other thing is technology

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Speaker 2: makes it easy for people, doesn't It makes it easy

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Speaker 2: to book travel, makes it easier to meet someone else.

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Speaker 2: So that's a factor as well. I think it's just

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Speaker 2: more life is more flexible, but probably more difficult.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy, I saw somebody so today that women are often

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Speaker 1: the initiators of this divorce when you're in the fifty

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Speaker 1: plus category, are you seeing.

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Speaker 2: That, Well, they probably are, but it's not necessarily because

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Speaker 2: of an affair. It's often that they just you know,

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Speaker 2: they've got the confidence to be able to do something

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Speaker 2: you know now and perhaps go overseas that they couldn't

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Speaker 2: do before.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be too unkind to men, but

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Speaker 1: how much of it is also because women carry the

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Speaker 1: mental load and the emotional load in a relationship and

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Speaker 1: they just get a little bit naffed off. And by

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Speaker 1: the time you're in your fifties, you're like, you actually

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Speaker 1: have had the chance to grow up and you know,

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Speaker 1: clean the bathroom after yourself. You just get tired of it.

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Speaker 1: Is that possibly that.

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Speaker 2: There could be an aspect of that perhaps have had

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Speaker 2: the traditional roles in their relationship. Yeah, and you've thought

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Speaker 2: that people might change and they haven't changed and just

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Speaker 2: want to, you know, do something different, which, well, women

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Speaker 2: now really are more able to, aren't they. They've got that,

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Speaker 2: you know, they've got that. They've got that ability perhaps

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Speaker 2: to you know, work, work part time, to travel, to

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Speaker 2: see other family members, to see children. Yeah, and perhaps

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Speaker 2: some of them have just had enough of what's happened

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Speaker 2: during all those times. I mean the average marriage is

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Speaker 2: about fifteen years, all the late about fifteen years, so

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Speaker 2: you know that means that people were in their sort

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Speaker 2: of mid to late forties onwards. We see a lot

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Speaker 2: of people who are in their fifties and sixties. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they you know, they have just on different paths.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for example, you can go on your Airbnb now,

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Speaker 2: can't you are heady? You know, you can go to

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Speaker 2: New York for a month now on an Airbnb. You

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Speaker 2: couldn't do that before. So there are just these tools

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Speaker 2: that you have to enable you to travel. And we

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Speaker 2: live longer than we lived before. I mean people are

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Speaker 2: living much much longer, so they've just got those tools

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Speaker 2: to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting stuff, Jeremy, thank you very much for lucrative

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Speaker 1: business for you. I'd imagine Jeremy Sutton of Bastian Chambers.

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