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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fyne

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Speaker 1: from newstalkst B. The Bledisloe Cup has been a constant

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Speaker 1: in the All Black's trophy cabinet for twenty two years.

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Speaker 2: The Bleerslow Cup as Stelle's Ellen's.

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Speaker 3: They have braced the Wabbies thirty eight seven.

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Speaker 1: The Men in Black a dominant force in this trends

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Speaker 1: Tasman rivalry.

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Speaker 4: Bix hail to win the net. The All Blacks Hail

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Speaker 4: to the Bledislow.

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Speaker 2: The Bledislope stays in New Zealand for another.

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Speaker 1: Year, but in twenty twenty five the Wallabies can smell

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Speaker 1: a chance.

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Speaker 4: Save suffered a defeat.

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Speaker 5: The Wallaby swat jumps up, so boys shorts smart.

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Speaker 4: They've also been victorious.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, this is just so good.

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Speaker 6: This is ecstasy.

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Speaker 3: The Wallaby friends, Oh.

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Speaker 1: My and under the tutelage of a Kiwi coach, they

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Speaker 1: have shown they are contenders, building up to the battle

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Speaker 1: for the Blow Live for the Kingslander in Auckland. It's

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pne on your home of sports

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Speaker 1: news Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Yesd Cure to good Afternoon.

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Speaker 7: Welcome into a very special edition of weekend sport on

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Speaker 7: News Talks EDB Saturday September twenty seven, led Terslow one

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Speaker 7: All Blacks v Wallabies, Eden Park five past five this afternoon,

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Speaker 7: We're going to get you all the way to kick

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Speaker 7: off with an extended five hour show. We're live at

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Speaker 7: the iconic Kingslander Bar on New North Road until three

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Speaker 7: o'clock this afternoon. We'll then relocate to the All Blacks

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Speaker 7: and then full live commentary of the All Blacks against

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Speaker 7: the Wallabies with Elliott Smith and a Strawn from five

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Speaker 7: o'clock and you can join us for instant reaction afterwards

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Speaker 7: as well if you like, going to take your calls

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Speaker 7: after the final whistle until around eight o'clock tonight. So settlin.

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Speaker 7: I'm Jason Pine. Show producer is Andy McDonnell. We've had

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Speaker 7: a great lineup for your World Cup winning Wallaby's captain

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Speaker 7: Nick Pharr Jones will lead us off shortly seventy nine

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Speaker 7: test All Black's lock Ian Jones on location after one

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Speaker 7: o'clock a bit later on All Black Centurion now Skysport

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Speaker 7: commentator Mills Muliaina with his views all blackswinger Lee roy

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Speaker 7: Carter ahead of his second test in the Black Jersey

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Speaker 7: later on today and.

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Speaker 3: Some sporting royalty as well.

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Speaker 7: Ryan Fox is gonna pop in here and join us

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Speaker 7: at the Kingslander for a chat after two o'clock and

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Speaker 7: Dame Lisa Carrington with us in the fan zone around

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Speaker 7: three point thirty this afternoon, and of course we'll bring

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Speaker 7: you all the color of the day, be it black

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Speaker 7: or be it green and gold.

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Speaker 3: And that's where you come in.

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Speaker 7: If you're in and around New North Road, please pop

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Speaker 7: see you and maybe do some face to face talkback.

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Speaker 7: The fans already starting to arrive, so we'll read their

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Speaker 7: pulse across the afternoon. But wherever you are, please join

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Speaker 7: us in our build up lines open immediately and all

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Speaker 7: afternoon for your thoughts, your predictions, your analysis of the

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Speaker 7: two teams, the important matchups in your view, your hopes

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Speaker 7: and maybe your fears for tonight at the Garden of Eden.

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Speaker 7: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the free phone number.

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Speaker 7: You can text your thoughts through to nine two nine

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Speaker 7: two or email them into Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot

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Speaker 7: co dot Nz. We can sport all the way to

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Speaker 7: kick off at five past five. It's just just gone

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Speaker 7: ten and a half past.

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Speaker 1: Midday, analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting

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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB eleven past midday.

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Speaker 7: The last time Australia beat the All Blacks at Eden

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Speaker 3: Is done trying to work a loop. Australia could score

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Speaker 7: the Rugby World Cup in nineteen ninety one. In total,

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Speaker 7: so much for joining us, Nick, what do you remember

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Speaker 7: most vividly about that day Eden Park, September nineteen eighty

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Speaker 8: Yeah, get a Jason to you and your listeners. I

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Speaker 9: You know, we lost in Duned and we thought we'd

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Speaker 9: The last Test in the eighty four series in Australia

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Speaker 8: To New Zealand.

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Speaker 9: The first Test against the Baby Blacks at Wellington was

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Speaker 8: Down in Duneedon it was.

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Speaker 9: Thirteen twelve to the All Blacks, and so you know,

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Speaker 9: we just were so desperate to win, and I think

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Speaker 9: it was just the sheer relief Jason. But one thing

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Speaker 9: So you've got to remember it was a long time

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Speaker 8: But that was one of the lasting memories that.

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Speaker 7: You played the All Blacks eighteen more times after that.

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Speaker 7: Were they the games you looked forward to the most?

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Speaker 8: Oh, look, for sure.

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Speaker 9: I mean you've got to remember that until nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 9: As you mentioned, I was lucky enough to play twenty

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Speaker 9: And you know, you've got to remember everyone thinks that

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Speaker 8: But we did that out of respect.

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Speaker 9: I'd much prefer to be ten meters away eyeballing your

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Speaker 9: But as an opponent, you want to send a second

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Speaker 9: And if you're going to be just today, you're going

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Speaker 7: Absolutely brilliant who were some of the more formidable players

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Speaker 8: Suit look, you had an amazing packs and what have you.

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Speaker 8: It was that simple, and so a lot of.

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Speaker 9: Our tactics were around burying him in deep dark places,

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Speaker 9: And the other guy that we'd often form tactics around,

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Speaker 9: I'm in New Zealand or he's over here, is Grant

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Speaker 8: And if we did that, we had a chance of

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Speaker 7: Is it true that you and Tim Horan took a

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Speaker 9: We did, indeed, Jason, We actually we'd had a pack

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Speaker 9: a close game in Auckland. But I think we're in

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Speaker 8: And we did that, and I can assure you it

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Speaker 9: And there are some photos drifting around and I'm not

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Speaker 7: Many of your tests Nica course were alongside the great

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Speaker 7: Michael Liner. How did you achieve the chemistry you did

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Speaker 9: Look, I was lucky enough to play my first four

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Speaker 7: Is it a source of frustration that the Bledislow hasn't

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Speaker 8: Oh, look, I'm pretty sure it is.

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Speaker 9: I mean, ask any player who's lost to the All

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Speaker 8: It's disappointing these days.

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Speaker 9: That you know, you don't have three tests series and

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Speaker 8: But yeah, this is critical.

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Speaker 7: Just had a question come through for you, Nick, I'm

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Speaker 8: It means everything to us. So I can assure you

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Speaker 3: Jason, wonderful stuff. Nick.

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Speaker 7: It's so great to have you leading us off on

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Speaker 7: All the best to you and thanks for your at

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Speaker 9: Yeah, pleasure Jason. I hope it's a fantastic afternoon. Obviously

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Speaker 7: Wonderful stuff, Nick, No, cheers to you too, mate, Nick

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Speaker 7: joining us to lead us off here on bled us

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Speaker 3: Gwynn says, Jason, say hei to Nick.

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Speaker 7: My daughter and I caught up with him for a

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Speaker 7: twelve to twenty five here on News Talks, there be

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Speaker 3: Can these two long.

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Speaker 7: Standing All Blacks records twenty two years with a let

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Speaker 7: I'm going to say no for one main reason. The

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Speaker 7: that'll out weigh any thought of Australia coming to town

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number.

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Speaker 7: If you'd like to jump aboard, give us your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have you with us.

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Speaker 7: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty as the show comes

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Speaker 7: to you live from the Kingslander in New north Road

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Speaker 7: this afternoon, we're back with your calls, your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, live from the Kingslander in Auckland. It's

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunner Homes New

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Speaker 7: News Talks NB and Weekend Sport coming to your life

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Speaker 7: from the Kingslander. Twelve thirty one, must says Pinety, how

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Speaker 7: do you? How do I get a gig like yours?

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Speaker 7: Living the dream at all these pubs you're going to

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Speaker 7: I must say, maus a terrific job.

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Speaker 10: Matt.

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Speaker 3: You're calling from Australia, mate, How are you feeling?

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Speaker 12: Mate? Good good? I'm glad the game is not insteady today.

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Speaker 12: Thirty degrees of them. I can spell a bit of

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry do you want to give you the

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Speaker 7: it's really nice. But apparently in the next few hours

439
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Speaker 7: there's going to be a bit of rain and quite

440
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Speaker 7: a heavy shower at around halftime tonight. Look, I don't

441
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Speaker 7: know whether that'll make a difference or not, but that's

442
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Speaker 7: just a bit of a bit of weather and tell

443
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Speaker 7: for you mate.

444
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Speaker 3: But how are you feeling about the game in general?

445
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Speaker 12: Oh look, look, I'm just going to make a general

446
00:22:28,787 --> 00:22:32,387
Speaker 12: statement just quickly. I just love this Wallaby team. They're

447
00:22:32,467 --> 00:22:36,587
Speaker 12: just like I'm a Wallaby supporter, but with the NRL

448
00:22:36,787 --> 00:22:40,627
Speaker 12: and the AFL and the Australian public just kind of

449
00:22:40,867 --> 00:22:44,307
Speaker 12: dwindled away. But I think the Australian public want to

450
00:22:44,347 --> 00:22:47,147
Speaker 12: be proud of the Wallabies again. I think they are again.

451
00:22:47,307 --> 00:22:49,587
Speaker 12: I think they see they're a scene that they can

452
00:22:49,627 --> 00:22:53,827
Speaker 12: investigate in and I've seen more Wallaby jumpers around Sydney

453
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Speaker 12: even with the temperature rising, and I just think these guys,

454
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Speaker 12: these blokes really are trying to rebuild the game in

455
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Speaker 12: this country and I think they take that on. And

456
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Speaker 12: I grew up and could so. I saw the eller

457
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Speaker 12: Boys play and I love the way when we do

458
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Speaker 12: get over the advantage one. I love the way the

459
00:23:12,827 --> 00:23:15,947
Speaker 12: Australian back liner are using the ball. I just think

460
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Speaker 12: they're fantastic. I don't think Mate will have the five

461
00:23:20,987 --> 00:23:23,147
Speaker 12: pound to get up today. I think we're still developing

462
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Speaker 12: as a team, but I think they'll give it a

463
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Speaker 12: really good crack and I think the Australian public will

464
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Speaker 12: still be proud of them at the end of today

465
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Speaker 12: and then we'll have another go in person and see

466
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Speaker 12: how we go. But I think they're billt like they're back.

467
00:23:37,867 --> 00:23:41,747
Speaker 12: They're back, the publics love them, so Yeah, they've done

468
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Speaker 12: great things for rugby in this country. And Joe smid Mate.

469
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Speaker 12: I wish he wasn't going home. I understand he has

470
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Speaker 12: to for family reasons. But we'll thank you very much

471
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Speaker 12: to Joe for what he's done for rugby in this country.

472
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Speaker 12: He has been.

473
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Speaker 3: Amazing, brilliant stuff.

474
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Speaker 7: So as we sit here, then, Matt, in the middle

475
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Speaker 7: of the World Cup cycle, which of course Australia will

476
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Speaker 7: host in twenty twenty seven, do you feel a sense

477
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Speaker 7: of optimism about what might play out a couple of years.

478
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Speaker 12: Look, look, World Cups are funny and it's turning up

479
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Speaker 12: on the day, but I think there's a team developing

480
00:24:17,027 --> 00:24:20,507
Speaker 12: that'll give it a really good crack. They won't they'll

481
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Speaker 12: be in the running and it's on the day. But

482
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Speaker 12: I think Joe's filled them with that confidence, you know,

483
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Speaker 12: that belief that they don't go away. They don't go away.

484
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Speaker 12: They remind me, they remind me a lot of the

485
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Speaker 12: canber Raiders. They don't go away. They just stay in

486
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Speaker 12: the fight. And you've got to you've got a chance,

487
00:24:38,667 --> 00:24:41,147
Speaker 12: You've got a chance. And for many years I just

488
00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:43,067
Speaker 12: didn't think we had a chance. But with this team,

489
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Speaker 12: I think we do and I think they'll be Whatever

490
00:24:46,907 --> 00:24:50,827
Speaker 12: happens today, they'll be better for it. And I think, yeah,

491
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Speaker 12: i'd love us to win an even park.

492
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Speaker 10: Mate.

493
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Speaker 12: Obviously haven't seen when we last won at the even parks.

494
00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:58,947
Speaker 12: So my kids has never seen a Wallabyst Glad's that's up,

495
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Speaker 12: So it's super super.

496
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Speaker 3: Important here, wonderful stuff.

497
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Speaker 7: Got a text through This guy met from Aussie is

498
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Speaker 7: my favorite of Australian and my brother in law is Australian.

499
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Speaker 7: So mate, you're resonating on this side.

500
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Speaker 3: Of the Tasman. Mate, you're the same age as me

501
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Speaker 3: as well.

502
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Speaker 7: I was about that age in eighty six too, So

503
00:25:16,467 --> 00:25:19,147
Speaker 7: look good to chat to my friend and enjoyed the game.

504
00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:21,587
Speaker 7: Really appreciate you taking the time to call in twelve

505
00:25:21,707 --> 00:25:25,467
Speaker 7: thirty four, now in nineteen ninety two. Now that's going

506
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Speaker 7: back a fair way. Was that thirty three years ago?

507
00:25:29,187 --> 00:25:31,947
Speaker 7: My very first radio job was at Radio whited Upper

508
00:25:32,667 --> 00:25:35,707
Speaker 7: in Masterton, and I was therefore just under a year.

509
00:25:36,347 --> 00:25:38,867
Speaker 7: And one of the voices on the radio station back

510
00:25:38,907 --> 00:25:42,147
Speaker 7: then was one of our Saturday afternoon I guess you'd

511
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Speaker 7: call him around the grounds cricket reporter by the name

512
00:25:45,427 --> 00:25:46,707
Speaker 7: of Kevin Boyce.

513
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Speaker 3: Now Kevin Boyce has turned up at the Kingsland.

514
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Speaker 13: Just for you, piny mate.

515
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Speaker 7: It is amazing to see and you haven't honestly, you

516
00:25:54,947 --> 00:25:56,787
Speaker 7: have not aged what is the secret?

517
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Speaker 13: Well, I think possibly staying and teaching and getting out

518
00:25:59,587 --> 00:26:03,347
Speaker 13: of broadcasting anyway better anyway you've lost the bit of here.

519
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:05,067
Speaker 13: And as I said to you before, with grass doesn't

520
00:26:05,067 --> 00:26:06,707
Speaker 13: grow on a busy street. And I think you know

521
00:26:06,707 --> 00:26:09,547
Speaker 13: you've got to remember that. Just hearing that Australian guy

522
00:26:09,627 --> 00:26:12,027
Speaker 13: speak before, I think he's quite right. Actually they don't

523
00:26:12,067 --> 00:26:15,107
Speaker 13: go away. We do in the second half sadly, and

524
00:26:15,387 --> 00:26:18,547
Speaker 13: I think we've got to sustain that today. The last

525
00:26:18,547 --> 00:26:22,467
Speaker 13: time I saw Australia was in two thousand at the

526
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Speaker 13: Caketon and John Eels got that cack and my god,

527
00:26:26,427 --> 00:26:28,867
Speaker 13: you know Todd blackatter, et cetera. They should have played

528
00:26:28,867 --> 00:26:29,187
Speaker 13: it tight.

529
00:26:29,307 --> 00:26:29,867
Speaker 3: They didn't.

530
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Speaker 13: And what do you know is nickname John Eils nobody

531
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Speaker 13: because nobody's perfect.

532
00:26:35,267 --> 00:26:36,587
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was perfect that.

533
00:26:36,867 --> 00:26:39,387
Speaker 7: I remember that test to Kevin first ever one at

534
00:26:39,427 --> 00:26:43,067
Speaker 7: what was Westpac Stadium house sky Stadium. Yes, afternoon kickoff,

535
00:26:43,507 --> 00:26:46,027
Speaker 7: they had lights, but they decided on an afternoon kickoff

536
00:26:46,027 --> 00:26:50,147
Speaker 7: and that was obviously just after that amazing test in Melbourne,

537
00:26:50,227 --> 00:26:52,227
Speaker 7: yes where when one thirty nine to thirty five with

538
00:26:52,387 --> 00:26:54,467
Speaker 7: Jonas scoring that try, came back here but then that

539
00:26:54,547 --> 00:26:57,267
Speaker 7: last minute penalty Yeah, yeah, gave it to And those

540
00:26:57,267 --> 00:26:59,147
Speaker 7: were the days when they when you didn't know from

541
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Speaker 7: week to week and they broke our hearts as often

542
00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:01,387
Speaker 7: as we broke this.

543
00:27:01,547 --> 00:27:02,267
Speaker 11: We did they did.

544
00:27:02,347 --> 00:27:04,787
Speaker 13: Sorry you say, certainly? Did I think they're changing the

545
00:27:04,827 --> 00:27:08,867
Speaker 13: Australian nasal anthem? Now that's they're still saying avarance Australia fair,

546
00:27:08,947 --> 00:27:10,307
Speaker 13: but it's going to be spelled I f E A

547
00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:13,227
Speaker 13: are not if A I are so, and I think

548
00:27:13,267 --> 00:27:16,027
Speaker 13: we better fear them, you know, I think we will

549
00:27:16,027 --> 00:27:18,147
Speaker 13: have just a little bit too much firepower in our

550
00:27:18,187 --> 00:27:22,307
Speaker 13: in our our bench, which is their depth is perhaps

551
00:27:22,347 --> 00:27:24,027
Speaker 13: not as strong as ours, and I think that could

552
00:27:24,027 --> 00:27:25,307
Speaker 13: be the telltale factor.

553
00:27:25,427 --> 00:27:27,667
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you're you.

554
00:27:27,907 --> 00:27:29,747
Speaker 7: When you and I met, you were living in the

555
00:27:29,787 --> 00:27:32,027
Speaker 7: Wided Upper. You're on the Company Coast and Welson now

556
00:27:32,027 --> 00:27:35,107
Speaker 7: are still still heavily involved in sports watching, no doubt

557
00:27:35,147 --> 00:27:37,107
Speaker 7: you see what You've got a keen eye and ear

558
00:27:37,147 --> 00:27:37,627
Speaker 7: on everything.

559
00:27:37,987 --> 00:27:40,467
Speaker 13: Absolutely, Yeah, it's quite you know, the sport's not that

560
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:42,547
Speaker 13: strong in the area. Some of the horror and a

561
00:27:42,587 --> 00:27:44,667
Speaker 13: couple of people saying that, but they're about the same

562
00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:46,187
Speaker 13: league as But why do they have a bosh? You know,

563
00:27:46,267 --> 00:27:49,507
Speaker 13: so they're they're they're thereabouts, but and well acton. I

564
00:27:49,507 --> 00:27:51,587
Speaker 13: think they won the NPC last year, didn't they. That's

565
00:27:51,667 --> 00:27:54,747
Speaker 13: right as well, we seek so we're now Yeah, no good.

566
00:27:54,627 --> 00:27:56,587
Speaker 7: Good memory given you know they won it on a

567
00:27:56,667 --> 00:28:00,067
Speaker 7: very horrible day. Yeah, at sky Stadium actually in the final.

568
00:28:00,787 --> 00:28:03,307
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think they've it swings around about, isn't

569
00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:05,587
Speaker 7: that in the strength of the NPC seems to be

570
00:28:05,707 --> 00:28:07,907
Speaker 7: outside the the main super rugby centers.

571
00:28:07,907 --> 00:28:10,587
Speaker 3: You look at the Orc the Blues catchment and now

572
00:28:10,747 --> 00:28:11,547
Speaker 3: terribly they're doing.

573
00:28:11,627 --> 00:28:14,267
Speaker 13: So it's exactly right. I said to someone the other day.

574
00:28:14,347 --> 00:28:17,587
Speaker 13: Just listened to Siri because in twenty fifteen, I said

575
00:28:17,587 --> 00:28:19,387
Speaker 13: to Sarah, who's gonna win the Rugby World Cup? And

576
00:28:19,427 --> 00:28:22,347
Speaker 13: she said, that's easy Campeazie Australia. Of course, they got

577
00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:25,467
Speaker 13: knocked out in the quarterfinal. So I said, Siri, who's

578
00:28:25,467 --> 00:28:27,227
Speaker 13: going to win the World Cup? She said, I don't

579
00:28:27,267 --> 00:28:30,747
Speaker 13: know that question, So you've got to go. I think

580
00:28:30,747 --> 00:28:33,147
Speaker 13: the Australia is a lot that wor but you know that. Yeah,

581
00:28:33,187 --> 00:28:34,427
Speaker 13: but I think it's going to be a good test

582
00:28:34,627 --> 00:28:36,747
Speaker 13: and we will be you know, we're going to have

583
00:28:36,747 --> 00:28:39,227
Speaker 13: to dig deep. I just wonder, you know, with the

584
00:28:39,307 --> 00:28:41,987
Speaker 13: Artie's captain. I think they we just needed a little

585
00:28:41,987 --> 00:28:44,147
Speaker 13: bit of a lift and he plays till he dies,

586
00:28:44,187 --> 00:28:47,747
Speaker 13: you know, and inverted commas and he gives that heart,

587
00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:49,267
Speaker 13: you know, right through, and I think.

588
00:28:49,107 --> 00:28:50,187
Speaker 3: We've just got to do that.

589
00:28:50,227 --> 00:28:51,747
Speaker 13: We've got to dig deep today, don't we.

590
00:28:51,747 --> 00:28:51,987
Speaker 3: We do.

591
00:28:52,387 --> 00:28:54,147
Speaker 7: Kip want a delight to see him too much. Thanks

592
00:28:54,147 --> 00:28:55,667
Speaker 7: for stopping Buy for a chat. Hopefully we can buy

593
00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:57,187
Speaker 7: you a drink of whatever events.

594
00:28:56,827 --> 00:28:57,467
Speaker 3: Maybe we got to do.

595
00:28:57,507 --> 00:28:59,507
Speaker 13: Yeah, but as they say in the Pisoner Shop, we

596
00:28:59,587 --> 00:29:00,987
Speaker 13: used to say that that wraps things up.

597
00:29:03,507 --> 00:29:05,587
Speaker 3: The same jokes from thirty three years ago.

598
00:29:06,667 --> 00:29:09,027
Speaker 7: Thanks, great to see your mate.

599
00:29:09,587 --> 00:29:12,067
Speaker 3: Good on you mate, Really appreciate you joining us, Sam,

600
00:29:12,107 --> 00:29:14,107
Speaker 3: I mate, Ponty.

601
00:29:14,107 --> 00:29:15,107
Speaker 10: How are you on a Saturday?

602
00:29:17,427 --> 00:29:17,627
Speaker 12: Hello?

603
00:29:20,227 --> 00:29:23,707
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're there, Sam? Yeah, yeah, I can hear

604
00:29:23,747 --> 00:29:26,067
Speaker 3: it perfectly on your I'm good. Thank you, Sam.

605
00:29:26,107 --> 00:29:28,427
Speaker 7: What's what's on your mind as you think about these

606
00:29:28,867 --> 00:29:30,307
Speaker 7: two Bledisloe Cup tests?

607
00:29:31,227 --> 00:29:31,467
Speaker 14: Yeah?

608
00:29:31,867 --> 00:29:34,827
Speaker 15: Just thinking what's the Is there a reasoning behind the

609
00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:38,267
Speaker 15: scheduling of a two Leaderslow Cup series?

610
00:29:39,067 --> 00:29:39,867
Speaker 7: Two game series?

611
00:29:40,587 --> 00:29:43,307
Speaker 11: I think it should be a three game series home

612
00:29:43,387 --> 00:29:46,627
Speaker 11: and away and then whoever holds it as the homemade

613
00:29:46,907 --> 00:29:47,907
Speaker 11: field advance.

614
00:29:47,627 --> 00:29:52,467
Speaker 3: With it does And I agree, Sam, I agree with you.

615
00:29:52,787 --> 00:29:54,067
Speaker 3: It should be over three tests.

616
00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:57,507
Speaker 7: And the reason, as I understand it is, is simply

617
00:29:57,627 --> 00:30:00,827
Speaker 7: that they've got to squeeze everything in somewhere and the

618
00:30:00,907 --> 00:30:03,627
Speaker 7: All Blacks are off on an end of season, you know,

619
00:30:03,787 --> 00:30:07,387
Speaker 7: the Northern Tour and the past us. You'll know there

620
00:30:07,427 --> 00:30:10,427
Speaker 7: have been occasions where there've been three test matches, but

621
00:30:10,547 --> 00:30:11,147
Speaker 7: not for a while.

622
00:30:11,227 --> 00:30:12,667
Speaker 3: And I agree with you made it.

623
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Speaker 7: It feels odd, doesn't it that if the All Blacks

624
00:30:15,227 --> 00:30:18,307
Speaker 7: win this afternoon, then the Bleederslow's locked away again. I mean,

625
00:30:18,387 --> 00:30:20,867
Speaker 7: good for us, but it feels like there should be

626
00:30:20,947 --> 00:30:23,907
Speaker 7: more more jeopardy heading into the second test if.

627
00:30:23,787 --> 00:30:24,387
Speaker 3: You get in the drift.

628
00:30:25,947 --> 00:30:29,187
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, because even we go back to per quite

629
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Speaker 11: a strong one hundred thousand mat stadiums.

630
00:30:34,027 --> 00:30:36,427
Speaker 12: You know, it's changed the whole thing, and then came

631
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Speaker 12: to a third game test even.

632
00:30:38,267 --> 00:30:40,987
Speaker 16: Things for the Lions, So I don't know, it's been

633
00:30:40,987 --> 00:30:42,747
Speaker 16: a bit of a question of mind for the pub

634
00:30:42,827 --> 00:30:44,227
Speaker 16: sep weeks and then.

635
00:30:44,227 --> 00:30:44,507
Speaker 4: Get to this.

636
00:30:45,187 --> 00:30:46,907
Speaker 17: So yeah, anyway, thanks for that.

637
00:30:47,427 --> 00:30:49,787
Speaker 7: No, no worries, Sam, No, and I look like you.

638
00:30:49,947 --> 00:30:51,747
Speaker 7: I hope we get to three tests at some point

639
00:30:52,387 --> 00:30:54,267
Speaker 7: in the in the in the not to just in future.

640
00:30:54,307 --> 00:30:56,347
Speaker 7: I fear though, mate, that it might be a little

641
00:30:56,387 --> 00:30:58,187
Speaker 7: way away, because of course we've got the South African

642
00:30:58,267 --> 00:31:01,187
Speaker 7: Tour next year, and then it'll be World Cup year,

643
00:31:01,427 --> 00:31:04,547
Speaker 7: and then we've got the New Nations Championship coming into it,

644
00:31:04,707 --> 00:31:07,627
Speaker 7: So the days of a three series might have to

645
00:31:07,707 --> 00:31:10,787
Speaker 7: wait until beyond the next World Cup and to a

646
00:31:10,827 --> 00:31:13,347
Speaker 7: point where we might have one of the traditional Tours

647
00:31:13,907 --> 00:31:14,747
Speaker 7: of Australia.

648
00:31:15,107 --> 00:31:16,587
Speaker 3: So I guess we'll just have to wait and say

649
00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:17,547
Speaker 3: good to chat to you mate. Thanks.

650
00:31:17,587 --> 00:31:20,347
Speaker 7: Indeed, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number.

651
00:31:20,427 --> 00:31:23,427
Speaker 7: It's nineteen away from one. You never know who you're

652
00:31:23,427 --> 00:31:26,307
Speaker 7: going to bump into when you do broadcasts from bars.

653
00:31:26,387 --> 00:31:29,307
Speaker 7: Another former Wallaby Brendan Cannon, gonna have a chat to

654
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Speaker 7: us right after.

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Speaker 1: This, cutting down to old Eggs v Australia on your

656
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Speaker 1: home of Sport. It's weekend sport lay from the Kingslander

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Speaker 1: in Auckland. Where's Jason Vane and GJ Gunner Homes New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks, NB.

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Speaker 7: News Talks AIRB Company Life from the Kingsland as we

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Speaker 7: built towards Kickhoff. Five past five, Eden Park, All Blacks

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Speaker 7: against the Wallaby's former Wallaby Brendan Cannon.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you mate, How are you?

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Speaker 14: I go?

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Speaker 18: Well, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: Yes game day.

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Speaker 18: You still get the juices flowing sweaty palms, and I

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Speaker 18: think it's an interesting afternoon for both teams. The afternoon

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Speaker 18: high anticipation on the Wallaby side of things, and I

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Speaker 18: sense a little bit of nervousness from the kiwis do

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Speaker 18: you really?

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Speaker 19: I do?

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Speaker 18: I do a sense of vulnerability that I haven't seen

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Speaker 18: for a long time and it's a damn shame, but

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Speaker 18: that's what life's all about. You've got to be vulnerable

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Speaker 18: to grow and maybe this afternoon that vulnerability could be exposed.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 10: I love that.

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Speaker 3: It seems like you've been working on that for a while.

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Speaker 8: Twenty three years.

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Speaker 3: You've been along with it and been How are you mate?

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Speaker 3: Living the dream? Happy to be here now?

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Speaker 7: You were born the year after the Wallabies. Last week

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Speaker 7: the All Blacks here at Eden Park.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I'm one of the great mocks that will

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Speaker 20: be put on any sporting side. So yeah, last time

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Speaker 20: we won here was eighty six. I was born in

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Speaker 20: eighty seven. Okay, last premiership the Mighty Paramatter Eels one

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Speaker 20: was eighty six as well. I don't get a lot

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Speaker 20: of a lot of joy, but we're hoping, hoping to

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Speaker 20: break a record tonight with history.

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Speaker 7: Brittan, you know what it's like to win the bleedd

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Speaker 7: Slow Cup. Yes, like to win the Bledterslow.

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Speaker 18: Cut well twenty three years ago when we last held it,

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Speaker 18: so two thousand and two. I think we beat an

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Speaker 18: Antin Oliver captain lead side at Carrisbrook, and it was

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Speaker 18: a great error for the Wallabies back then and we

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Speaker 18: were just talking offline which before that how close it

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Speaker 18: was between the two sides. It was really just on

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Speaker 18: the day who got a rubber of the green. To

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Speaker 18: a degree, there's probably been a fairly significant void in

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Speaker 18: recent years between the All Blacks and the Wallowies. But

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Speaker 18: I think the way the Wallabies have played this year

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Speaker 18: has generated a level of interest which has been missing

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Speaker 18: for a while, which but I think is good for

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Speaker 18: rugby internationally. But in terms of the bladders though, I

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Speaker 18: didn't think in two thousand and two when we had

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Speaker 18: it that if we did lose it it would take

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Speaker 18: twenty three years and counting before we even looked like

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Speaker 18: we were a chance to get it back. So twenty

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Speaker 18: three years is a long time. There's generations of Austrange

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Speaker 18: children that have grown up that have no idea what

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Speaker 18: the bladders the cup looks like. Hopefully that changes today.

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Speaker 7: Well, the line I've been using most of the week

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Speaker 7: is that no one's ever posted it on social media

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Speaker 7: that the Wallabs have won the blitterslow up because they

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Speaker 7: arrived all about it you, oh five o six been?

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Speaker 7: Is it a source of frustration for Australian rugby fans

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Speaker 7: that it has been over here for so long?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 20: Look, I think we've moved well beyond frustration and now

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Speaker 20: we're just living in desperate sort of hope. I mean

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Speaker 20: the last time we had it, I remember I was

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Speaker 20: I would have been sitting at home with the old

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Speaker 20: man watching this boat lifted above us, lifted above his head.

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Speaker 20: So you know, I do, I do agree with cano

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Speaker 20: though definitely, you know, I starting rugby's feeling a lot

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Speaker 20: better these days over there.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a great lines tour.

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Speaker 20: There's a lot of positivity about the team at the

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Speaker 20: moment and the All Blacks definitely look vulnerable and looking

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Speaker 20: forward to uh hopefully bringing it back home.

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Speaker 3: To where it belongs now.

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Speaker 7: Apart from the rugby, of course, you usually are here

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Speaker 7: for business reasons as.

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Speaker 21: Well, So what has brought you across We are in

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Speaker 21: a company over here called Traffic Management New Zealand, so

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Speaker 21: it's the largest traffic management company across the country and

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Speaker 21: yeah where we bought it a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 21: and we're delighted to be here and very very well

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Speaker 21: warmly welcomed by the Kiwi's.

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Speaker 18: I've loved working for the Altars group that owned this

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Speaker 18: traffic manager management New Zealand business because whilst I used

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Speaker 18: to come here with the rugby tours, I've gone to

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Speaker 18: parts of New Zealand that I never went to on

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Speaker 18: rugby tour.

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Speaker 3: So I've been to Gisbon.

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Speaker 8: We've been a Tonga nice.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 18: We're trying to sort of get the local language to

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Speaker 18: roll off the Aussie tongue.

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Speaker 3: So you've got but you've got business interest in Australia

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Speaker 3: as well. This part of your, part of your empire.

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Speaker 20: I wouldn't call it an empire where I'm just a

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Speaker 20: humble traffic controller from Western Sydney out there doing his best,

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Speaker 20: trying to find a way through it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we own and operate the largest traffic management

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Speaker 3: company across his go in New Zealand. So wonderful.

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Speaker 20: I'm delighted to be here and looking forward to a

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Speaker 20: good afternoon with Brendan and Kevy and a couple of

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Speaker 20: clients as well.

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Speaker 3: So Kevin, Kevin me a lama. You've got the great

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Speaker 3: man joining you from bit of a young lader.

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Speaker 18: Also last year we had Kevy involved with US at

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Speaker 18: the Wellington Test and at that time he was the

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Speaker 18: third most capped and he's now the fourth most cap

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Speaker 18: because I think Boden Barrett's passed him. But it's quite

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Speaker 18: amazing to walk the streets towards a rugby venue with

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Speaker 18: a guy like Kevin Mirelama, who is not just New

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Speaker 18: Zealand Royalty, but he's he's international rugby royalty. One of

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Speaker 18: the nicest, nicest guys that you could ever ever meet,

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Speaker 18: unashamingly humble, you know, very very strong with family and religion.

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Speaker 18: But he'll be a superstar this afternoon for us.

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Speaker 3: Stops and talks with absolutely every man.

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Speaker 18: He should be a politician's shaken baby. Come on mate,

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Speaker 18: we're running late.

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Speaker 8: No, no, I got to talk to everyone, so no,

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Speaker 8: you're right.

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Speaker 7: He never turns down a handshaker or a request for

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Speaker 7: a for a photo. What was it like tackling Jonah Wow?

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Speaker 18: Okay, so I it was really interesting. In nineteen ninety

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Speaker 18: four I played in an Aussie twenty one side against

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Speaker 18: the Kiwi twenty one side that had Justin Marshall, Andrew Mertins,

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Speaker 18: Tane Randell like it was the next era of the

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Speaker 18: Albacks and a guy called Jonah Loomi, so that was

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Speaker 18: pre ninety ninety five where he blew the world away.

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Speaker 18: We used to it was almost like comedy sessions when

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Speaker 18: we'd do postgame reviews after you'd played a team with

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Speaker 18: joonahlomo in because we is as ossie rugby players took

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Speaker 18: great delight in watching anyone in the team get absolutely

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Speaker 18: pulverized by him and the way in which their body

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Speaker 18: would contort into all these weird shapes and sizes. So

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Speaker 18: we would also be laughing on the field like just

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Speaker 18: you couldn't stop him. He was and freak sometimes can

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Speaker 18: be not a great adjective to describe someone, but he

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Speaker 18: was unbelievable. If you went into a laboratory and said

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Speaker 18: I need a bit of size, I need a bit

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Speaker 18: of speed, I need a bit of someone that loves

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Speaker 18: contact or someone that loves running into people. Jonah Lomi

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Speaker 18: was like the perfect stereotype or prototype of a rugby player.

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Speaker 8: Phenomenal.

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Speaker 10: I love that.

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Speaker 18: Phenomenal.

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Speaker 7: What an explanation, All right, Ben, So how are you feeling?

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Speaker 7: Where would you place your level of optimism about this afternoon?

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Speaker 10: Marginally higher than what it's been for the last ten years.

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Speaker 20: I mean every time I come into it with any hope,

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Speaker 20: I end up walking away bitterly disappointed.

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Speaker 3: But I think, yeah, off the back of a really

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Speaker 3: strong lines to.

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Speaker 20: A pretty average lead in for the All Blacks, I mean,

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Speaker 20: if there's ever a time I feel like this is

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Speaker 20: the one.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, optimistic.

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Speaker 18: We've obviously been through a fairly long and protracted period

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Speaker 18: of non success in Australian rugby, so we take a

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Speaker 18: little bit of a delight in the fact that there's

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Speaker 18: uncomfortability in the Kiwi scene at the moment. That second

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Speaker 18: half against the Springbox recently was phenomenal for the spring Box,

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Speaker 18: not so much for the All Blacks. The Wallaby's had

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Speaker 18: a half a football against the Springboks in Johannesburg which

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Speaker 18: got the rugby world to step up and sit up

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Speaker 18: and go wow, this Wallaby side has got some potential.

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Speaker 18: So I think this afternoon, I don't think we've got

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Speaker 18: our strongest side. I think Will Skelton being is a

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Speaker 18: big loss and it's a shame that he's not available

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Speaker 18: till next week. He has such a presence and I

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Speaker 18: think we saw the influence he had in that line series,

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Speaker 18: So I don't think we've got our stronger side. I

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Speaker 18: think it will be incredibly competitive, but I do hope

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Speaker 18: that that vulnerability. I think Gilbert and Artika the former

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Speaker 18: yes it's the former site coach for the All Blacks

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Speaker 18: who no longer is with them. I think you will

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Speaker 18: miss him because I think the vulnerability and the skeletons

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Speaker 18: and the anguish of years gone by could be exposed

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Speaker 18: this afternoon at Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: How many cans of beer going the blitter slowly?

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Speaker 6: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: Then it's a tough one, twenty sixty quickly empty.

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Speaker 18: It's north for twenty and you need a couple of

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Speaker 18: blokes to hold it because it carries a fair bit

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Speaker 18: of weight. But it's a magnificent piece of silverware. It

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Speaker 18: means a lot between the two countries, and obviously whoever

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Speaker 18: gets it gets boasting rights. But it stops stops a

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Speaker 18: rugby nation between Australia New Zealand. Anytime the bladders those on,

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Speaker 18: I hope that we get to touch it or get

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Speaker 18: close to it, but you've got to earn the right

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Speaker 18: and the wallapy's got to play well this afternoon.

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Speaker 7: Man, it's been great to chat to you guys. Have

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Speaker 7: an awesome afternoon with given me a lama. I know

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Speaker 7: you will, we will and enjoy the game others of

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Speaker 7: what happens.

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Speaker 18: Can we get a Kiwi commentator to sort of align

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Speaker 18: with us and join into a go the Wallabies chat?

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Speaker 3: Not right now?

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Speaker 10: Right now?

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Speaker 22: All right?

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Speaker 3: A couple of remutation of the lightlight I'm great to

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Speaker 3: see your voice.

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Speaker 7: Bring a cannon and venus well from Traffic Management, New Zealand.

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Speaker 7: to you from the Kingslander, which is starting to fill

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Speaker 7: up with a heck of a lot of black I

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Speaker 7: must say a bit of gold and green to be

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Speaker 7: seen as well, but a lot of All Blacks fans

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Speaker 7: here at the Kingslander, looking forward to a five past

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Speaker 7: five kick off and mingling at the moment with All

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Speaker 7: Blacks Royalty in the form of camo Ian Jones has

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Speaker 7: Ian Jones, if we can drag him away from the

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Speaker 7: fans that have surrounded them. With us after the News

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Speaker 7: at one.

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Speaker 1: Bringing you the buildout, the battle and the banter as

878
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Speaker 1: we count down to the first Bledisloe Cup test of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: It's Weekend Sport with Jason Vine live from.

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Speaker 1: The Kingslander, Auckland on your home of the Sport News

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Speaker 1: Talks MB.

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Speaker 7: He's in d Welcome back into the show. Welcome to

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Speaker 7: the Kingslander on New North Road and Auckland. As we

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Speaker 7: build towards a five past five kickoff, don't get caught

886
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Speaker 7: out five past five this afternoon kickoff between the All

887
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Speaker 7: Blacks and the Wallabies and bled Uslow one at Eden Park,

888
00:41:46,187 --> 00:41:47,267
Speaker 7: as the Wallabies try.

889
00:41:47,107 --> 00:41:49,067
Speaker 3: To do two things, really be the first team to

890
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Speaker 3: bit the All.

891
00:41:49,547 --> 00:41:53,227
Speaker 7: Blacks in fifty one and counting test matches at Eden

892
00:41:53,307 --> 00:41:55,787
Speaker 7: Park and loft the Bledisloe Cup for the first time

893
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Speaker 7: since New Zealand took it off them back in two

894
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Speaker 7: thousand and three.

895
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Speaker 3: All Black's Royalty. Ian Jones with us very shortly.

896
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Speaker 7: But speaking of royalty, Jamie wall look, I don't even

897
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Speaker 7: know how to describe you.

898
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Speaker 3: How would I describe you.

899
00:42:10,027 --> 00:42:12,987
Speaker 23: I'm just a humble journalist and author, Piney, but thanks

900
00:42:13,027 --> 00:42:15,787
Speaker 23: so much for having me along as lovely to see it.

901
00:42:15,947 --> 00:42:19,467
Speaker 7: You're being very humble because your books are always a

902
00:42:19,547 --> 00:42:22,627
Speaker 7: brilliant read, including your definitive history of Bill Blacks against

903
00:42:22,627 --> 00:42:25,427
Speaker 7: South Africa. Of course we're talking bled Uslo today though,

904
00:42:25,507 --> 00:42:29,107
Speaker 7: but you're wearing a red Pornicky blazer in honor of

905
00:42:29,187 --> 00:42:30,867
Speaker 7: the curtain race and the tell us about the under

906
00:42:30,907 --> 00:42:31,867
Speaker 7: eighty five kilo final.

907
00:42:31,947 --> 00:42:35,467
Speaker 23: Yeah, under eighty five kg National Club Cup finals kicking

908
00:42:35,507 --> 00:42:37,987
Speaker 23: off at two fifteen once again the curtain Raids of

909
00:42:38,027 --> 00:42:41,107
Speaker 23: Blazlow Cup as it was last year. This year my

910
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:44,947
Speaker 23: old club, my old team actually PORNICKYFC playing his high

911
00:42:44,947 --> 00:42:47,947
Speaker 23: school old boys light Beers down from christ Wich.

912
00:42:47,987 --> 00:42:49,907
Speaker 10: For the light Beers, it's their third final in a row.

913
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Speaker 23: They lost last year but won for that really really

914
00:42:53,027 --> 00:42:55,787
Speaker 23: good team seven New Zealand representatives and there was this

915
00:42:55,947 --> 00:42:58,147
Speaker 23: of course, the first year there have been a New

916
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Speaker 23: Zealand under eighty five kg national team played over in

917
00:43:01,747 --> 00:43:02,267
Speaker 23: Sri Lanka.

918
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Speaker 10: Two big wins over there, but also.

919
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Speaker 23: A couple of really big crowds at twenty f five

920
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Speaker 23: thousand and in Colombo for the game against the Srilonkan

921
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Speaker 23: national team. So really big year for waitger over something

922
00:43:12,107 --> 00:43:14,827
Speaker 23: I'm really passionate about and I'm really looking forward to

923
00:43:14,907 --> 00:43:18,387
Speaker 23: this game. Pornicky coached by a colleague of you of ours,

924
00:43:18,707 --> 00:43:22,307
Speaker 23: Ross bond I'm sure he'll be as tense as usual,

925
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Speaker 23: and so I'm hoping for a big one, just just

926
00:43:24,667 --> 00:43:27,387
Speaker 23: for the city's sake. So Bondi doesn't go off after

927
00:43:27,507 --> 00:43:29,427
Speaker 23: the game, and my thoughts go out to the referee,

928
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Speaker 23: who will be hearing plenty for our friend Ross bond.

929
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Speaker 7: Indeed years I think Bondi's reputation proceeds him. So about

930
00:43:35,867 --> 00:43:37,947
Speaker 7: an hour away from kickoff, I know you're going to

931
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Speaker 7: cover it and to watch it. But later on the

932
00:43:40,267 --> 00:43:42,987
Speaker 7: Bledder Slow Cup testing, do you see the Wallabies as

933
00:43:43,027 --> 00:43:45,867
Speaker 7: a threat to the two records, the Eden Park record,

934
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Speaker 7: the Bleddi Slowe Cup, you know, two decade.

935
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Speaker 3: Long run this afternoon or not.

936
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Speaker 23: No, I don't because we've had this conversation I don't

937
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Speaker 23: know how many times in the last ten years about

938
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Speaker 23: the wall be coming here. So I'm solely basing this

939
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Speaker 23: off historical evidence. The All Blacks did not win fifty

940
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Speaker 23: one tests in a row at Eden Park by accident.

941
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Speaker 23: I mean the man sitting next to me was playing

942
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Speaker 23: when when that all that all started way back in

943
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Speaker 23: the mid nineties. Uh, And I think that just they,

944
00:44:12,467 --> 00:44:14,027
Speaker 23: whether they want to admit it or not, the all

945
00:44:14,067 --> 00:44:17,547
Speaker 23: baits just grow a leg at Eden Park and it.

946
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Speaker 10: Will it will come apart at some point, but not

947
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Speaker 10: not not tonight. I think.

948
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Speaker 23: Sorry, this evening, as you rightly pointed out, don't get

949
00:44:25,267 --> 00:44:27,227
Speaker 23: caught out five oh five kickoff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure whether you're supposed to say this

951
00:44:29,067 --> 00:44:31,587
Speaker 7: afternoon or this evening when it's five past five. It's

952
00:44:31,627 --> 00:44:34,227
Speaker 7: that no man's landing between really, isn't it. I just

953
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Speaker 7: say later on today, Yeah, later today. And the looks

954
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Speaker 7: like the weather is defied predictions. It's actually pretty pretty

955
00:44:41,147 --> 00:44:41,587
Speaker 7: warm out there.

956
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Speaker 23: I've got this lovely blazer on from the Pornicky nineteen

957
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Speaker 23: seventy nine two to the USA, but I had to

958
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Speaker 23: take it off on the walkover because it's pretty humid

959
00:44:49,627 --> 00:44:49,987
Speaker 23: out there.

960
00:44:50,227 --> 00:44:52,467
Speaker 10: Should be a great, great conditions for some running rabia

961
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Speaker 10: in both games.

962
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Speaker 3: Wonderful stuff.

963
00:44:53,987 --> 00:44:55,547
Speaker 7: Hey, great to see you mate, all the best of

964
00:44:55,587 --> 00:44:57,987
Speaker 7: your Poronickey team this afternoon, and we'll see you across.

965
00:44:57,787 --> 00:44:59,667
Speaker 3: The road in a little while, Thanks very much, pony.

966
00:44:59,707 --> 00:45:01,027
Speaker 3: All right, Jamie Wall joining us.

967
00:45:01,427 --> 00:45:04,147
Speaker 7: Let's welcome in one of our greatest, our greatest lockforwards

968
00:45:04,707 --> 00:45:08,107
Speaker 7: raised in Camo, selected North Auckland in nineteen eighty eight

969
00:45:08,587 --> 00:45:10,587
Speaker 7: as a twenty one year old to with the eighty

970
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Speaker 7: nine All Blacks, made a cess debut the following year

971
00:45:13,307 --> 00:45:16,507
Speaker 7: against Scotland at Carisbrook and scored a try. From then

972
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Speaker 7: on through until nineteen ninety seven, pretty much an automatic selection,

973
00:45:20,627 --> 00:45:23,587
Speaker 7: he and Robin Brook forming one of the most enduring

974
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Speaker 7: locking partnerships in international rugby. Three World Cups see Captain

975
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Speaker 7: the Chiefs, often Captain the All Blacks and Midweek gain

976
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Speaker 7: in South Africa in nineteen ninety two, one hundred and

977
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Speaker 7: five games for the All Blacks seventy nine tests, still

978
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Speaker 7: the fourthmost by any New Zealand lock and now general

979
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Speaker 7: manager of the All Blacks Experience, the only interactive attraction

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Speaker 7: in the world dedicated to New Zealand rugby, located on

981
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Speaker 7: Federal Street in the Sky City Precinct.

982
00:45:50,787 --> 00:45:54,387
Speaker 3: Who else but Camo Ian Jones. Nice to see you, mate, Piney.

983
00:45:54,427 --> 00:45:56,707
Speaker 24: Want a hell of a build up? Yeah, welcome, Thanks

984
00:45:56,827 --> 00:46:00,547
Speaker 24: very much, just very quickly touching on the eighty five

985
00:46:00,627 --> 00:46:04,027
Speaker 24: as he mentioned Robin Brook, my boy plays Tech Green

986
00:46:04,187 --> 00:46:07,867
Speaker 24: Under eighty five's guest three locks the' come with a

987
00:46:07,947 --> 00:46:11,187
Speaker 24: man called Kayla Brook, the son of Robin Brooke.

988
00:46:12,427 --> 00:46:14,067
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, It is unbelievable.

989
00:46:14,107 --> 00:46:16,827
Speaker 24: It's wonderful. They're not as tough as me and Rob Well.

990
00:46:16,827 --> 00:46:19,067
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how do they compare to their

991
00:46:19,147 --> 00:46:20,387
Speaker 3: you know, to the two of you.

992
00:46:22,587 --> 00:46:25,627
Speaker 24: Not a patch on us, pony, not a patch, but

993
00:46:25,747 --> 00:46:29,187
Speaker 24: they try their best. They love the game, the passionate

994
00:46:29,187 --> 00:46:31,187
Speaker 24: about the game. But we're all passionate about the game

995
00:46:31,507 --> 00:46:33,267
Speaker 24: and they're out there doing it. So now I loved

996
00:46:33,387 --> 00:46:34,947
Speaker 24: Under eighty five competition myself.

997
00:46:35,107 --> 00:46:37,107
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that locking combination

998
00:46:37,227 --> 00:46:39,667
Speaker 3: with yourself and Robin Brook. It was just enduring.

999
00:46:39,827 --> 00:46:42,827
Speaker 7: And you talk about great partnerships and all black rugby,

1000
00:46:42,907 --> 00:46:45,547
Speaker 7: and that was one of them. How important is the

1001
00:46:45,667 --> 00:46:49,507
Speaker 7: locking combination in the you know, an effect of forward pack?

1002
00:46:49,707 --> 00:46:52,027
Speaker 24: It is absolutely a partnership like a nine ten, like

1003
00:46:52,107 --> 00:46:54,387
Speaker 24: a twelve thirteen, And they are partnerships. You have to

1004
00:46:54,467 --> 00:46:57,067
Speaker 24: work off each other, you have to understand each other's role.

1005
00:46:57,587 --> 00:46:59,587
Speaker 24: And the great thing I always used to be when

1006
00:46:59,627 --> 00:47:01,867
Speaker 24: I was a rob. I knew you. He's always had

1007
00:47:01,947 --> 00:47:06,667
Speaker 24: my back. Great footballer Robin Brook really tough, under stood

1008
00:47:06,707 --> 00:47:10,507
Speaker 24: the game, uncompromising, so you knew exactly what he was

1009
00:47:10,547 --> 00:47:12,747
Speaker 24: going to do in his role, which allowed me to

1010
00:47:12,827 --> 00:47:15,467
Speaker 24: do my role a little bit wider than that. But

1011
00:47:15,707 --> 00:47:18,667
Speaker 24: she always knew he was always going to front. And

1012
00:47:18,747 --> 00:47:20,667
Speaker 24: when you know that, when you have so much trust

1013
00:47:20,827 --> 00:47:23,987
Speaker 24: and faith and the guy you're sitting beside the changing sheds,

1014
00:47:24,187 --> 00:47:26,747
Speaker 24: the guy you're locking the scrum with in a Test match,

1015
00:47:27,467 --> 00:47:30,787
Speaker 24: it's just gold pinting. And I always had my rob,

1016
00:47:30,787 --> 00:47:31,587
Speaker 24: always had my back.

1017
00:47:31,947 --> 00:47:33,907
Speaker 7: You came into the All Blacks in nineteen eighty nine

1018
00:47:34,667 --> 00:47:37,587
Speaker 7: and a very very good All Black side. It was

1019
00:47:37,707 --> 00:47:40,507
Speaker 7: from the eighty seven World Cup onwards. You came into

1020
00:47:40,547 --> 00:47:43,627
Speaker 7: that side as a twenty two year old. Was there

1021
00:47:43,707 --> 00:47:44,987
Speaker 7: in any way daunting for you?

1022
00:47:46,827 --> 00:47:50,147
Speaker 24: Funny enough, it wasn't. Because just had the self belief.

1023
00:47:50,587 --> 00:47:53,307
Speaker 24: I wanted to be there. I felt comfortable being there,

1024
00:47:53,587 --> 00:47:56,067
Speaker 24: had really good teammates kind of around me. I went

1025
00:47:56,147 --> 00:47:58,987
Speaker 24: on that first tour in eighty nine Murray Pears and

1026
00:47:59,067 --> 00:48:01,907
Speaker 24: go wed him with the incumbents say the Test locks.

1027
00:48:02,467 --> 00:48:04,707
Speaker 24: So I got comfortable being in that environment. But I

1028
00:48:04,867 --> 00:48:09,267
Speaker 24: wanted more and my break came when Murray Pears at

1029
00:48:09,307 --> 00:48:10,947
Speaker 24: the end of eight and nine went to South Africa.

1030
00:48:11,027 --> 00:48:13,987
Speaker 24: So there's a whole this vacancy in the locking for

1031
00:48:14,107 --> 00:48:18,827
Speaker 24: nineteen ninety. Thankfully, Gris Wiley rop So the great coach,

1032
00:48:18,987 --> 00:48:22,947
Speaker 24: gave me an opportunity in nineteen ninety and then started

1033
00:48:22,987 --> 00:48:26,107
Speaker 24: locking this grum with Gary Wton. Murray Peas actually came back,

1034
00:48:26,267 --> 00:48:28,707
Speaker 24: came on tour with us to France at the end

1035
00:48:28,747 --> 00:48:31,307
Speaker 24: of nineteen ninety and was a great mentor for me,

1036
00:48:31,507 --> 00:48:34,787
Speaker 24: great support for me. I managed to keep my test

1037
00:48:34,827 --> 00:48:37,347
Speaker 24: Scott and went all the way through till ninety nine,

1038
00:48:37,587 --> 00:48:40,547
Speaker 24: as you mentioned, but that was a break. And when

1039
00:48:40,547 --> 00:48:43,067
Speaker 24: you get an opportunity in sport, not just rugby, but

1040
00:48:43,187 --> 00:48:45,627
Speaker 24: in sport, and you can take that opportunity to take

1041
00:48:45,667 --> 00:48:48,187
Speaker 24: that chance, and then you can just grow and grow

1042
00:48:48,267 --> 00:48:50,787
Speaker 24: and draw. And there's always my ambition to play a test,

1043
00:48:51,227 --> 00:48:54,067
Speaker 24: to play multiple tests, to play fifty tests, and just

1044
00:48:54,227 --> 00:48:55,467
Speaker 24: keep building on that goal.

1045
00:48:55,547 --> 00:48:57,747
Speaker 7: Setting over one hundred games to the All Black, seventy

1046
00:48:57,827 --> 00:49:00,947
Speaker 7: nine of them were test matches. That team of the

1047
00:49:01,027 --> 00:49:02,827
Speaker 7: late eighties a dominant team, but the team you were

1048
00:49:02,907 --> 00:49:05,307
Speaker 7: part of the nineteen ninety six and ninety ninety seven,

1049
00:49:06,467 --> 00:49:10,187
Speaker 7: you know, utterly spectacular side. And I remember, and you

1050
00:49:10,267 --> 00:49:12,027
Speaker 7: will too, the game of Athletic Park when you met

1051
00:49:12,067 --> 00:49:14,667
Speaker 7: Australia forty three points to six on one of the

1052
00:49:14,747 --> 00:49:16,747
Speaker 7: worst Wellington days you can imagine, but one of the

1053
00:49:16,827 --> 00:49:19,547
Speaker 7: best displays of wet weather rugby ever.

1054
00:49:20,027 --> 00:49:21,547
Speaker 3: Do you recall much about that day?

1055
00:49:21,787 --> 00:49:24,867
Speaker 24: I recall the whole week, Piney, absolutely, because the whole

1056
00:49:24,947 --> 00:49:28,267
Speaker 24: week it was torrential rain and wanting to the whole

1057
00:49:28,307 --> 00:49:31,987
Speaker 24: week and John Hart just started to coming first year

1058
00:49:32,147 --> 00:49:34,227
Speaker 24: as all about coach. We'd had a beautiful wild up

1059
00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:37,947
Speaker 24: against the Sarmons. We knew what we were all about.

1060
00:49:38,027 --> 00:49:41,107
Speaker 24: We trained outdoors because we knew and John Hart knew

1061
00:49:41,187 --> 00:49:43,907
Speaker 24: these were the conditions that were about to face on Saturday.

1062
00:49:43,947 --> 00:49:45,987
Speaker 24: So we got into our heads this is the way

1063
00:49:46,027 --> 00:49:47,627
Speaker 24: we had to play. But we could steal back our

1064
00:49:47,707 --> 00:49:50,867
Speaker 24: skills in those conditions. So it's all about mindset of

1065
00:49:50,987 --> 00:49:54,147
Speaker 24: John Hart. Phenomenal coach got you into a place where

1066
00:49:54,187 --> 00:49:56,947
Speaker 24: you knew you were so confident in your ability, your

1067
00:49:57,027 --> 00:49:59,987
Speaker 24: teammate's ability, and how you could play. And so we

1068
00:50:00,147 --> 00:50:03,067
Speaker 24: just executed in ninety to ninety six and conditions that

1069
00:50:03,227 --> 00:50:05,627
Speaker 24: we in our mind were ready for.

1070
00:50:06,467 --> 00:50:08,627
Speaker 3: That team, that team that day.

1071
00:50:09,547 --> 00:50:13,507
Speaker 7: I mean, goodness, me doubt Fitzpatrick Brown, yourself and Robin Brook,

1072
00:50:13,547 --> 00:50:17,947
Speaker 7: Michael Jones, Josh Cronfeld and Sinney Marshall and Mertons Little

1073
00:50:17,987 --> 00:50:20,907
Speaker 7: and bunts, Lomu, Wilson, Cullen.

1074
00:50:21,627 --> 00:50:23,427
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what to say about a

1075
00:50:23,507 --> 00:50:23,987
Speaker 3: team like that.

1076
00:50:24,267 --> 00:50:26,147
Speaker 24: Well, it's phenomenal. A lot of it set up, of

1077
00:50:26,227 --> 00:50:28,107
Speaker 24: course by Laura Mayins and nine to ninety five and

1078
00:50:28,187 --> 00:50:30,987
Speaker 24: all the hard work we did. Ninety five John Hart

1079
00:50:31,107 --> 00:50:34,147
Speaker 24: came in and just transformed who we were. Just our

1080
00:50:34,227 --> 00:50:38,027
Speaker 24: mindset a little bit brilliant, and we just backed each other.

1081
00:50:38,147 --> 00:50:40,467
Speaker 24: We had world cast players. But all you had to

1082
00:50:40,547 --> 00:50:43,907
Speaker 24: do in that ninety six side was your job, nothing more,

1083
00:50:44,307 --> 00:50:47,067
Speaker 24: nothing less. Just had to go there, get yourself into

1084
00:50:47,147 --> 00:50:51,307
Speaker 24: this mindset, your job, understand what you need to do,

1085
00:50:51,547 --> 00:50:54,467
Speaker 24: execute trust in the other fourteen we'll do. Executed the

1086
00:50:54,587 --> 00:50:56,667
Speaker 24: same outcome as what the outcome was.

1087
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Speaker 7: And that's kind of how we operated nineteen ninety four

1088
00:51:00,467 --> 00:51:02,787
Speaker 7: France out here, the try from the end of the Earth.

1089
00:51:03,267 --> 00:51:05,147
Speaker 3: Is that vivid in your memory for a different reason?

1090
00:51:05,387 --> 00:51:09,707
Speaker 24: Oh, I remember, it hurts, absolutely hurts, And I look

1091
00:51:09,787 --> 00:51:11,987
Speaker 24: back on that and with some shame that we were

1092
00:51:12,067 --> 00:51:15,347
Speaker 24: bought me all that we were ball watching so running

1093
00:51:15,667 --> 00:51:18,547
Speaker 24: to the ball where we should be standing in our position.

1094
00:51:18,747 --> 00:51:21,747
Speaker 24: We could have stopped that try. You know, eighty third

1095
00:51:21,827 --> 00:51:26,187
Speaker 24: minutes of the game, a little bit fatigued allowed the

1096
00:51:26,267 --> 00:51:30,147
Speaker 24: Frenchi's opportunity. They took the opportunity. But I look back

1097
00:51:30,227 --> 00:51:32,427
Speaker 24: and then should I could have done so much more personally.

1098
00:51:32,987 --> 00:51:37,507
Speaker 24: We could have stopped that, but we didn't. We now

1099
00:51:37,547 --> 00:51:40,667
Speaker 24: look back on this memory and it's phenomenal Pony to

1100
00:51:40,827 --> 00:51:42,707
Speaker 24: have a home ground and the Audicts don't have a

1101
00:51:42,787 --> 00:51:47,787
Speaker 24: home ground. We play everywhere, but our spiritual home often

1102
00:51:48,027 --> 00:51:51,187
Speaker 24: is referred to at Eden Park. And to think that

1103
00:51:51,427 --> 00:51:54,227
Speaker 24: we haven't lost a game at Eden Park since nineteen

1104
00:51:54,347 --> 00:51:59,867
Speaker 24: ninety four, fifty one test matches ago, it's crazy. So

1105
00:52:00,027 --> 00:52:03,147
Speaker 24: this is why this game tonight and every game since then,

1106
00:52:03,827 --> 00:52:07,107
Speaker 24: you've got to defend that fortress. It is about mindset,

1107
00:52:07,427 --> 00:52:09,867
Speaker 24: It is about stamping your authority. It is about this

1108
00:52:10,027 --> 00:52:12,827
Speaker 24: first ten minutes of this game, to make it so

1109
00:52:12,907 --> 00:52:15,507
Speaker 24: the Wallames go, shit, this is hard. There's no way

1110
00:52:15,547 --> 00:52:18,747
Speaker 24: we can win here. That's exactly how we got to

1111
00:52:18,747 --> 00:52:19,347
Speaker 24: start this game.

1112
00:52:19,467 --> 00:52:20,587
Speaker 7: I just want to ask you about a couple of

1113
00:52:20,627 --> 00:52:22,827
Speaker 7: players in the current side. Fabi and Holland is a

1114
00:52:22,907 --> 00:52:25,147
Speaker 7: new addition to the side in twenty twenty five. What

1115
00:52:25,227 --> 00:52:27,347
Speaker 7: if you made of his introduction a test Rugby love.

1116
00:52:27,267 --> 00:52:29,267
Speaker 24: Him because he's a big unit. He's a big unit

1117
00:52:29,347 --> 00:52:32,507
Speaker 24: who knows how to us his size. His work rate's phenomenal.

1118
00:52:32,587 --> 00:52:35,747
Speaker 24: You see big man on the ground popping up bang

1119
00:52:35,827 --> 00:52:38,267
Speaker 24: into the next phase, so that's really good. Understands his

1120
00:52:38,467 --> 00:52:40,827
Speaker 24: role as well, so he will play a little bit

1121
00:52:40,907 --> 00:52:44,347
Speaker 24: tighter tonight, with toy a little bit wider. So that's

1122
00:52:44,387 --> 00:52:47,547
Speaker 24: about the combination. What's my job tonight? Will Fabian Holand

1123
00:52:47,587 --> 00:52:49,107
Speaker 24: be is saying what's my role? What do you want

1124
00:52:49,147 --> 00:52:51,307
Speaker 24: from me? But what we want from him is just

1125
00:52:51,387 --> 00:52:55,307
Speaker 24: getting his big body and shifting the ruckshading plenty of rucks,

1126
00:52:55,627 --> 00:52:59,707
Speaker 24: taking the Wallabies out, actually physically dominating the Wallabies, making

1127
00:52:59,747 --> 00:53:03,547
Speaker 24: them hurt. Okay, that tuck the Wallabies. But we can't

1128
00:53:03,627 --> 00:53:05,627
Speaker 24: think like that. We have to think that the public

1129
00:53:05,667 --> 00:53:09,387
Speaker 24: schoolboys and absolutely get into them and they're allowed to

1130
00:53:09,507 --> 00:53:11,867
Speaker 24: govide wide to see I've loved the man.

1131
00:53:12,107 --> 00:53:14,907
Speaker 7: So to just say back into the second row. He's

1132
00:53:15,027 --> 00:53:18,387
Speaker 7: sort of been used at blindside flank. You know three

1133
00:53:18,507 --> 00:53:19,387
Speaker 7: or four times this year.

1134
00:53:19,547 --> 00:53:21,827
Speaker 3: Was there something that you ever considered to move to six?

1135
00:53:22,147 --> 00:53:22,387
Speaker 8: Shit?

1136
00:53:22,507 --> 00:53:24,387
Speaker 24: No, you look at the six is that he just

1137
00:53:24,467 --> 00:53:26,787
Speaker 24: talked about in my lineup? Was not going to get

1138
00:53:26,827 --> 00:53:29,707
Speaker 24: a chance anyway. But the great thing about tuber Viety,

1139
00:53:30,147 --> 00:53:33,307
Speaker 24: he still has the mindset of a type forward. He's

1140
00:53:33,347 --> 00:53:37,707
Speaker 24: thinking tight, he's thinking ruthlessness, uncompromising and all of those things,

1141
00:53:37,787 --> 00:53:39,867
Speaker 24: even when he's paying six. I liked him at six,

1142
00:53:40,467 --> 00:53:42,947
Speaker 24: but he's still got that mindset of getting over the ball,

1143
00:53:43,427 --> 00:53:46,427
Speaker 24: being negli, getting in the face of the opposition. And

1144
00:53:46,547 --> 00:53:47,867
Speaker 24: yet if you can get in the face of the

1145
00:53:47,907 --> 00:53:50,907
Speaker 24: opposition and put them off their game so they stopped

1146
00:53:50,947 --> 00:53:53,627
Speaker 24: thinking about their role, but what you're doing to them,

1147
00:53:53,947 --> 00:53:56,027
Speaker 24: that's a win for the All Backs. I love the

1148
00:53:56,067 --> 00:53:56,707
Speaker 24: way he plays.

1149
00:53:56,907 --> 00:54:01,107
Speaker 7: Yeah, brilliant general manager of the All Blacks experience. Now

1150
00:54:01,467 --> 00:54:04,867
Speaker 7: it's a job you clearly absolutely love. I just love

1151
00:54:04,907 --> 00:54:07,267
Speaker 7: the social media you're put up and it's always just

1152
00:54:07,347 --> 00:54:10,387
Speaker 7: with such enthusiasm and energy for the All Blacks brand.

1153
00:54:11,027 --> 00:54:14,827
Speaker 3: What's the role involved and how much do you enjoy it?

1154
00:54:15,307 --> 00:54:17,907
Speaker 24: All New Zealanders should be very proud of the brand,

1155
00:54:17,987 --> 00:54:20,507
Speaker 24: the All Blacks, But the or Backs experience, but we

1156
00:54:20,667 --> 00:54:22,547
Speaker 24: call it the All Backs experience, but it's actually for

1157
00:54:22,947 --> 00:54:25,507
Speaker 24: all our teams in back a mighty all Blacks, which

1158
00:54:25,507 --> 00:54:28,947
Speaker 24: are phenomenal, the Blackburns, which bring this amazing joy to

1159
00:54:29,107 --> 00:54:30,907
Speaker 24: our game. They're different to the men, and that's good.

1160
00:54:31,467 --> 00:54:33,827
Speaker 24: Are the superpower that the woman can have leading up

1161
00:54:33,827 --> 00:54:36,267
Speaker 24: to a game is so different to the men. And

1162
00:54:36,347 --> 00:54:38,907
Speaker 24: the men, of course are the brand itself, the All Blacks.

1163
00:54:38,987 --> 00:54:42,867
Speaker 24: So we take people through this New Zealand story ready

1164
00:54:42,907 --> 00:54:45,827
Speaker 24: through our rugby lens. But the connection we all have

1165
00:54:46,107 --> 00:54:49,147
Speaker 24: to the game of rugby, whether we have players and

1166
00:54:49,267 --> 00:54:51,987
Speaker 24: what that joes events to us as players and our families,

1167
00:54:52,787 --> 00:54:55,627
Speaker 24: whether his fans like you, Piney, what that kind of means,

1168
00:54:57,227 --> 00:54:59,747
Speaker 24: the puye that you get when the Orbacks come out

1169
00:54:59,907 --> 00:55:01,667
Speaker 24: or the international is coming in. Want to learn a

1170
00:55:01,707 --> 00:55:03,827
Speaker 24: little bit of who are the All Backs and why

1171
00:55:03,907 --> 00:55:06,027
Speaker 24: are they so good? And that's why we like to

1172
00:55:06,067 --> 00:55:09,067
Speaker 24: share were all these secrets because when you share, Pinty,

1173
00:55:09,147 --> 00:55:12,027
Speaker 24: you learn, and when we share, it's always last year's

1174
00:55:12,387 --> 00:55:15,027
Speaker 24: secrets for sharing, which means while we've got to get better,

1175
00:55:15,187 --> 00:55:17,907
Speaker 24: yeah and better. So take people through the making how

1176
00:55:17,947 --> 00:55:20,587
Speaker 24: do you make it all Black or blackburn? Well, how

1177
00:55:20,787 --> 00:55:23,347
Speaker 24: you make an all black Pining? It's just that our

1178
00:55:23,387 --> 00:55:26,147
Speaker 24: kids love our game. If our kids love the game

1179
00:55:26,227 --> 00:55:28,747
Speaker 24: like you love the game, and they're connected to the

1180
00:55:28,787 --> 00:55:31,547
Speaker 24: game or then that's a win. Most actually won't become

1181
00:55:31,547 --> 00:55:34,587
Speaker 24: all blacks or blackburns, but if they're connected, that's what

1182
00:55:34,707 --> 00:55:37,347
Speaker 24: we're after. When we shape, we play some games, which

1183
00:55:37,427 --> 00:55:40,947
Speaker 24: is great, and then phenomenally this is amazing. What does

1184
00:55:40,987 --> 00:55:44,387
Speaker 24: it feel like, Piney being an all black all black fern?

1185
00:55:44,627 --> 00:55:47,147
Speaker 24: Will you sit in those changing rooms when you hear

1186
00:55:47,227 --> 00:55:48,267
Speaker 24: that knock on their door?

1187
00:55:48,947 --> 00:55:49,867
Speaker 3: What does that mean to you?

1188
00:55:50,467 --> 00:55:52,947
Speaker 24: And that's what we try and express to the money.

1189
00:55:52,987 --> 00:55:56,627
Speaker 24: How their visitors coming through before they connect with our haka,

1190
00:55:57,187 --> 00:55:59,907
Speaker 24: they walk down this tunnel. The anthems are starting to

1191
00:55:59,987 --> 00:56:02,747
Speaker 24: play the crowd, and we have the same for the

1192
00:56:02,827 --> 00:56:06,027
Speaker 24: all blacks. Tonight, Pining will be some all blacks stare tonight.

1193
00:56:06,587 --> 00:56:09,027
Speaker 24: Their minds will be clear. They could not wait to

1194
00:56:09,107 --> 00:56:11,747
Speaker 24: get on that field. They were born for that moment.

1195
00:56:12,067 --> 00:56:15,467
Speaker 24: Would there'll be other allbacks in the sheds tonight at

1196
00:56:15,547 --> 00:56:21,347
Speaker 24: five o'clock? Who the brain is muddled? The expectations legacy

1197
00:56:21,867 --> 00:56:24,587
Speaker 24: that Superman cakes some people got on would be a

1198
00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:28,067
Speaker 24: heavy cloak for others. And that's why I want people

1199
00:56:28,107 --> 00:56:31,067
Speaker 24: to experience when they come to the Allbacks Experience, would

1200
00:56:31,067 --> 00:56:33,347
Speaker 24: they be a great the game with a clear mind

1201
00:56:33,947 --> 00:56:36,067
Speaker 24: or would they just be a good Ruby player with

1202
00:56:36,107 --> 00:56:39,787
Speaker 24: a muddled mind? And then you've got to face the Huckers.

1203
00:56:39,867 --> 00:56:43,267
Speaker 24: So God, I'm doing because you've invited me onto the

1204
00:56:43,347 --> 00:56:46,467
Speaker 24: show and I appreciate this, piny. I want people to

1205
00:56:46,587 --> 00:56:50,587
Speaker 24: jump on any of our social channels Facebook, Instagram the

1206
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:55,347
Speaker 24: Allbacks Experience, predict tonight's score or the closest to for

1207
00:56:55,467 --> 00:56:59,387
Speaker 24: the the Cup game. I will give where you get

1208
00:56:59,427 --> 00:57:01,387
Speaker 24: a chance for you've got to be an Augland, We'll

1209
00:57:01,427 --> 00:57:05,787
Speaker 24: give them the closest run on a family voucher to

1210
00:57:05,907 --> 00:57:09,507
Speaker 24: come to the Orbacks Experience. But more importantly, it's about legacy.

1211
00:57:10,107 --> 00:57:13,387
Speaker 24: Legacy is a really powerful word for the All Backs.

1212
00:57:13,787 --> 00:57:16,507
Speaker 24: That's what we're about. When we have a legacy wall,

1213
00:57:16,947 --> 00:57:20,507
Speaker 24: which shows you the win, loss and draw of every

1214
00:57:20,707 --> 00:57:23,227
Speaker 24: All Blacks are tests. The Allbacks are played for one

1215
00:57:23,307 --> 00:57:26,707
Speaker 24: hundred and twenty years, a seventy six point six percent

1216
00:57:26,827 --> 00:57:31,067
Speaker 24: one record, And I want the lucky person, a lucky

1217
00:57:31,187 --> 00:57:34,347
Speaker 24: family who predicts the right score for the night's game

1218
00:57:35,027 --> 00:57:39,347
Speaker 24: to come through Sunday on Monday and put in a

1219
00:57:39,467 --> 00:57:41,027
Speaker 24: black all black.

1220
00:57:40,947 --> 00:57:46,827
Speaker 3: Sprig or no, say no complete, no, let's stay with black,

1221
00:57:46,907 --> 00:57:48,027
Speaker 3: and they will.

1222
00:57:47,867 --> 00:57:52,587
Speaker 24: Be part of all Black legacy forever. That is damn cool.

1223
00:57:52,707 --> 00:57:53,587
Speaker 3: That is cool, all right.

1224
00:57:53,587 --> 00:57:56,267
Speaker 7: The all Blacks experience on Facebook or Instagram is where

1225
00:57:56,307 --> 00:57:58,587
Speaker 7: you can make your prediction just on that legacy war.

1226
00:57:58,987 --> 00:58:01,987
Speaker 3: I've had the pleasure of being there, and I could

1227
00:58:02,027 --> 00:58:05,507
Speaker 3: spend two or three hours there. Come.

1228
00:58:05,547 --> 00:58:06,987
Speaker 7: Oh, you know, I've been watching a black sn'ce the

1229
00:58:07,027 --> 00:58:09,587
Speaker 7: mid eighties, so we're talking, you know, forty years for

1230
00:58:09,747 --> 00:58:13,187
Speaker 7: me to just just you know, walk along that wall

1231
00:58:13,307 --> 00:58:15,827
Speaker 7: and say and see a black sprig or see a

1232
00:58:15,867 --> 00:58:16,947
Speaker 7: sprig of a different.

1233
00:58:16,747 --> 00:58:20,067
Speaker 3: Color, and remember that game so vividly and so clearly.

1234
00:58:20,387 --> 00:58:22,587
Speaker 24: Yeah, Pinet, we bring a lot of former players comes

1235
00:58:22,627 --> 00:58:25,547
Speaker 24: from and take tours which are really special because our

1236
00:58:25,627 --> 00:58:28,987
Speaker 24: guides are amazing. But the former players all have a

1237
00:58:29,027 --> 00:58:33,067
Speaker 24: different story, a different journey, a different connection to that

1238
00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:36,347
Speaker 24: to the jersey and now come through and two things happen.

1239
00:58:36,827 --> 00:58:39,827
Speaker 24: Will either walk to their first test match and remember

1240
00:58:39,907 --> 00:58:43,427
Speaker 24: that so vividly, or walk to their first loss in

1241
00:58:43,547 --> 00:58:46,587
Speaker 24: the all black jersey and also remember that so vividly.

1242
00:58:47,267 --> 00:58:50,387
Speaker 24: That you can talk about those games in detail. It's

1243
00:58:50,747 --> 00:58:54,827
Speaker 24: it's incredible. And the Ladies, of course, underneath it. I'm

1244
00:58:54,827 --> 00:58:57,187
Speaker 24: going to talk with Pride of our seventies six percent

1245
00:58:57,227 --> 00:59:01,507
Speaker 24: wind record, the Ladies with their eighty two percent wind record,

1246
00:59:02,067 --> 00:59:08,587
Speaker 24: the most successful sporting team in the world. It's right here,

1247
00:59:08,867 --> 00:59:11,627
Speaker 24: our Blackburns, beautiful.

1248
00:59:12,107 --> 00:59:15,227
Speaker 7: Are you able to qualify how many of your visitors

1249
00:59:15,627 --> 00:59:16,507
Speaker 7: are from overseas?

1250
00:59:16,947 --> 00:59:19,547
Speaker 24: Yep, sixty percent will come from overseas, all on the

1251
00:59:19,627 --> 00:59:22,587
Speaker 24: cruise ships. A lot of green and cold of course

1252
00:59:22,787 --> 00:59:26,627
Speaker 24: around this week. But the thing is when they come

1253
00:59:26,707 --> 00:59:30,827
Speaker 24: into the All Back Experience and a wall of a jersey,

1254
00:59:31,387 --> 00:59:34,507
Speaker 24: they actually leave buying a black jersey, Piney, and I

1255
00:59:34,707 --> 00:59:37,827
Speaker 24: love that. I bloody love that. And the great thing

1256
00:59:37,867 --> 00:59:39,827
Speaker 24: about our shop and you know, we can't put a

1257
00:59:39,947 --> 00:59:42,187
Speaker 24: name on the back of an All Back jersey because

1258
00:59:42,187 --> 00:59:45,707
Speaker 24: we don't own that jersey, Piney, We're just caretakers of

1259
00:59:45,867 --> 00:59:48,467
Speaker 24: that jersey. But the great thing about coming to the

1260
00:59:48,507 --> 00:59:52,307
Speaker 24: All Backs Experience, you can buy a jersey with your

1261
00:59:52,387 --> 00:59:55,307
Speaker 24: name on it. I'll personalize it for you, no problems.

1262
00:59:55,747 --> 00:59:57,267
Speaker 24: But just not the playing ones. We're great.

1263
00:59:57,307 --> 00:59:58,947
Speaker 7: Put a name on the plane ones, all right, just

1264
00:59:58,987 --> 01:00:00,587
Speaker 7: to finish, because I know you've got a busy day head.

1265
01:00:00,587 --> 01:00:02,147
Speaker 7: You've got to get back to the All Blacks experience

1266
01:00:02,227 --> 01:00:04,707
Speaker 7: and greet some more visitors. What is your gut telling

1267
01:00:04,747 --> 01:00:05,987
Speaker 7: you about the game this afternoon?

1268
01:00:06,507 --> 01:00:09,307
Speaker 24: Just have to win, no question about that. Your mindset

1269
01:00:09,427 --> 01:00:11,827
Speaker 24: is an All Backs sitting there now. Should be no

1270
01:00:12,027 --> 01:00:15,427
Speaker 24: other thought. It's about what's my job? What do I

1271
01:00:15,547 --> 01:00:17,867
Speaker 24: have to do for that first ten minutes? And how

1272
01:00:17,987 --> 01:00:20,307
Speaker 24: ruthless can I can be? There should be no other

1273
01:00:20,947 --> 01:00:24,227
Speaker 24: thought ever come into your mind. And again, like this, Pinty,

1274
01:00:24,227 --> 01:00:26,947
Speaker 24: it's overwhelming right playing for the All Backs for eighty minutes.

1275
01:00:27,867 --> 01:00:30,587
Speaker 24: So if I'm sitting in those sheds, all I'm thinking

1276
01:00:30,667 --> 01:00:34,747
Speaker 24: about is four ten minute games of rugby, bang bang bang.

1277
01:00:34,827 --> 01:00:37,587
Speaker 24: Then I'm back in the sheds reset four ten minute

1278
01:00:37,627 --> 01:00:40,187
Speaker 24: games of rugby, and even you, Piney can go hard

1279
01:00:40,267 --> 01:00:41,187
Speaker 24: for ten minutes.

1280
01:00:40,907 --> 01:00:41,267
Speaker 3: I think, so.

1281
01:00:41,707 --> 01:00:44,267
Speaker 7: Well, well, I'm not like you used to, but I

1282
01:00:44,587 --> 01:00:47,507
Speaker 7: but putting it into bite size segments.

1283
01:00:47,147 --> 01:00:48,027
Speaker 3: Like that, what a great idea.

1284
01:00:48,147 --> 01:00:50,587
Speaker 24: Yeah, that's the way I would play it, and that's

1285
01:00:50,627 --> 01:00:53,707
Speaker 24: why I'd go hard. Do I'd have no other thoughts? Yep,

1286
01:00:53,827 --> 01:00:56,667
Speaker 24: A lot of self belief. Maybe you might say arrogance

1287
01:00:56,747 --> 01:00:58,947
Speaker 24: as well. But it's a fine line, piny, But I

1288
01:00:59,107 --> 01:01:03,107
Speaker 24: have no other thought to go in there. We as

1289
01:01:03,147 --> 01:01:08,147
Speaker 24: the All Backs, have to physically dominate the Australians. Be real,

1290
01:01:08,307 --> 01:01:11,587
Speaker 24: niggling with them, put them off their game, don't allow

1291
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:15,307
Speaker 24: them to settle one little bit. Make remind them how

1292
01:01:15,427 --> 01:01:19,587
Speaker 24: damn hard test Net rugby is. We give them that domination,

1293
01:01:19,987 --> 01:01:22,147
Speaker 24: then we can play love it.

1294
01:01:22,867 --> 01:01:24,987
Speaker 7: The All Blacks Experience on social media, get on there,

1295
01:01:25,067 --> 01:01:26,267
Speaker 7: make your prediction for tonight, and it.

1296
01:01:26,267 --> 01:01:28,827
Speaker 3: Could be you planting that sprig in that I noticed.

1297
01:01:28,867 --> 01:01:31,147
Speaker 7: Yet you've only bought the black, only brought the black one,

1298
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,067
Speaker 7: and I think that's wise.

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01:01:32,307 --> 01:01:33,507
Speaker 24: I only think black mate.

1300
01:01:35,107 --> 01:01:36,707
Speaker 3: Come, I great to see you. Thanks for stuff again.

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01:01:36,827 --> 01:01:39,707
Speaker 7: Thanks Minny Ian Jones there joining us seventy nine test

1302
01:01:39,747 --> 01:01:41,587
Speaker 7: at one hundred and five game All Black and General

1303
01:01:41,587 --> 01:01:43,187
Speaker 7: went a job of the All Blacks Experience and the

1304
01:01:43,187 --> 01:01:46,027
Speaker 7: Sky City Precincts. Get on their socials, make your prediction

1305
01:01:46,107 --> 01:01:48,947
Speaker 7: and it could be you putting that sprig into the

1306
01:01:49,067 --> 01:01:53,627
Speaker 7: legacy wall to mark yet another famous victory for the

1307
01:01:53,747 --> 01:01:56,507
Speaker 7: All Blacks. One twenty seven Here on news Talks, there

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01:01:56,587 --> 01:01:59,187
Speaker 7: be coming to your life from the Kingslander lines are open.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk some rugby. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1310
01:02:01,107 --> 01:02:02,067
Speaker 3: eighty back right after.

1311
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Speaker 1: This flave from the Kingslander in Auckland Weekend Sport with

1312
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Speaker 1: Jason Fine and GJ. Gardner Homes New Zealand's most trusted

1313
01:02:12,107 --> 01:02:13,427
Speaker 1: home builder, New Stalks in.

1314
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Speaker 3: B one thirty on New Stalks.

1315
01:02:15,067 --> 01:02:17,547
Speaker 7: Heb coming to you live from the Kingslander on the

1316
01:02:17,627 --> 01:02:20,627
Speaker 7: day of bled Uslow one Hamish on text Cheeze Poney Carmo's.

1317
01:02:20,307 --> 01:02:22,427
Speaker 3: Got me barred up? Can you get me barn up?

1318
01:02:22,467 --> 01:02:22,707
Speaker 3: As well?

1319
01:02:22,867 --> 01:02:25,627
Speaker 7: Obviously Ian Jones was you was your coach or a

1320
01:02:25,707 --> 01:02:27,227
Speaker 7: team mate of yours and you listen to them for

1321
01:02:27,267 --> 01:02:27,747
Speaker 7: five minutes?

1322
01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:28,947
Speaker 3: You want to run through some brick walls.

1323
01:02:28,947 --> 01:02:32,267
Speaker 7: Wouldn't you great to have a couple of punters join

1324
01:02:32,347 --> 01:02:35,947
Speaker 7: us here at the Kingsland and now Stu and Neil.

1325
01:02:35,907 --> 01:02:38,307
Speaker 3: Neil first time for you at Eton Park?

1326
01:02:38,427 --> 01:02:38,787
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1327
01:02:39,787 --> 01:02:39,827
Speaker 25: So?

1328
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Speaker 3: What why this game was just first father's days?

1329
01:02:44,347 --> 01:02:45,867
Speaker 6: My son come down, one of my son's. I've got

1330
01:02:45,907 --> 01:02:48,347
Speaker 6: three sons. One of my sons come down. So we

1331
01:02:48,427 --> 01:02:49,827
Speaker 6: got to talk and I said, I've never been eating

1332
01:02:49,907 --> 01:02:51,667
Speaker 6: park and he says, let's fix that, Dad.

1333
01:02:52,027 --> 01:02:52,867
Speaker 10: I love it and he did.

1334
01:02:52,947 --> 01:02:54,947
Speaker 3: And I've got my whole three boys here. It's great,

1335
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Speaker 3: good stuff, Stu. And you've never been either, No, no,

1336
01:02:57,987 --> 01:03:00,027
Speaker 3: none of the boys have ever been. So yeah, are

1337
01:03:00,067 --> 01:03:00,587
Speaker 3: you all going?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

1339
01:03:01,147 --> 01:03:01,587
Speaker 14: Four of us.

1340
01:03:02,787 --> 01:03:02,987
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1341
01:03:03,987 --> 01:03:07,187
Speaker 26: As long as it's a good one for the Targo

1342
01:03:07,307 --> 01:03:08,867
Speaker 26: this afternoon and then a good one for the old

1343
01:03:08,907 --> 01:03:10,187
Speaker 26: Black tonight, I'll be a good trip.

1344
01:03:10,267 --> 01:03:11,267
Speaker 3: Well, I hope, I don't.

1345
01:03:11,387 --> 01:03:14,187
Speaker 7: I don't wish to rain on your parade, but I

1346
01:03:14,307 --> 01:03:16,147
Speaker 7: know you're keeping half an eye on the Shield Challenge

1347
01:03:16,147 --> 01:03:18,747
Speaker 7: and it's update our listeners actually on what's going on.

1348
01:03:19,107 --> 01:03:22,667
Speaker 7: It's at four Side Bars Stadium, your beloved home ground

1349
01:03:22,707 --> 01:03:25,667
Speaker 7: of your Otago site, North out to a fourteen to

1350
01:03:25,747 --> 01:03:27,427
Speaker 7: seven leagues Oh yeah.

1351
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Speaker 26: Yeah, it's been a well quick start from the tag over. Yeah,

1352
01:03:32,067 --> 01:03:34,227
Speaker 26: North Tarboro had a couple of lucky breaks, but it's

1353
01:03:34,227 --> 01:03:34,787
Speaker 26: a long game.

1354
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Speaker 24: We'll be right at that.

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Speaker 7: Shields are funny old thing, isn't it, Neil. You know

1356
01:03:37,587 --> 01:03:39,667
Speaker 7: it's changed in four or five times this year. Funny

1357
01:03:39,667 --> 01:03:41,267
Speaker 7: things happen when that logs on the sideline.

1358
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Speaker 6: I definitely does it does I've been to I've been

1359
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Speaker 6: to been the Shield Challenges before. You can have read

1360
01:03:46,387 --> 01:03:48,987
Speaker 6: all that and come away empty handed. But it it

1361
01:03:49,107 --> 01:03:52,507
Speaker 6: was great that last week was just a super unreal,

1362
01:03:52,627 --> 01:03:54,787
Speaker 6: wasn't It was a great, great game. Did you feel

1363
01:03:54,787 --> 01:03:58,067
Speaker 6: optimistic before that game or not really? Yeah, we always

1364
01:03:58,107 --> 01:04:02,747
Speaker 6: thought we had a chance, but it never. Never you

1365
01:04:02,787 --> 01:04:04,147
Speaker 6: didn't bet yourself against Kennbury.

1366
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Speaker 7: Nothing that's right, That's right, Stu. All Blacks Wallabies. Do

1367
01:04:08,587 --> 01:04:10,907
Speaker 7: you feel in any way nervous about this game?

1368
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 26: I felt nervous before the South African game. But All

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Speaker 26: Blacks won't lose two in a rows. I'm pretty I

1371
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Speaker 26: reckon it will be thirteen plus and then Perth will

1372
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Speaker 26: be a different story. It could be a tight game,

1373
01:04:23,427 --> 01:04:25,427
Speaker 26: but they'll have to leave it up their sleeve that

1374
01:04:25,747 --> 01:04:28,507
Speaker 26: and bet on their shoulder that they want to prove

1375
01:04:28,587 --> 01:04:30,027
Speaker 26: to the public that they're up for a day.

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Speaker 3: No, I think you're right.

1377
01:04:31,187 --> 01:04:34,107
Speaker 7: I think when the All Blacks lose, and particularly when

1378
01:04:34,147 --> 01:04:36,667
Speaker 7: they get tied up, Yeah, the responses off and brutal,

1379
01:04:36,707 --> 01:04:38,547
Speaker 7: isn't it? And you're right I think you know if

1380
01:04:38,627 --> 01:04:41,427
Speaker 7: that's been simmering away in the All Blacks camp for

1381
01:04:41,467 --> 01:04:45,027
Speaker 7: the last what thirteen fourteen days? Man, I expect a brutal,

1382
01:04:45,387 --> 01:04:47,987
Speaker 7: brutal but you're so right about Perth because we beat

1383
01:04:48,107 --> 01:04:50,547
Speaker 7: Argentina then lost to them, beats out Africa then lost

1384
01:04:50,587 --> 01:04:50,787
Speaker 7: to them.

1385
01:04:50,827 --> 01:04:52,427
Speaker 3: If we beat Australia, we could go to Perth and

1386
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Speaker 3: not win that one.

1387
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Speaker 24: Neil, Yes, dead right, Yeah, all right.

1388
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Speaker 3: But but it's good that you feel confident.

1389
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Speaker 7: And if you're about the five to five o'clock kickoff,

1390
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Speaker 7: I guess it sort of cuts into your build up,

1391
01:05:01,587 --> 01:05:02,267
Speaker 7: doesn't it a little bit?

1392
01:05:03,867 --> 01:05:04,787
Speaker 10: Coming here to the challenge?

1393
01:05:04,827 --> 01:05:07,027
Speaker 6: You know, the red it's your challenge is nice build

1394
01:05:07,067 --> 01:05:08,827
Speaker 6: up to the to the test, and that means I

1395
01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:10,427
Speaker 6: can go to give the bit because I'm giving a

1396
01:05:10,467 --> 01:05:10,787
Speaker 6: bit older.

1397
01:05:12,107 --> 01:05:15,307
Speaker 7: Now you're talking my language, Neil, Now you're talking my language, right, boys,

1398
01:05:15,307 --> 01:05:18,747
Speaker 7: give us a quick prediction of a winning margin before

1399
01:05:18,787 --> 01:05:19,307
Speaker 7: you go to you.

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01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:23,267
Speaker 26: Yeah, I reckon probably all let's say thirty four or

1401
01:05:23,387 --> 01:05:24,147
Speaker 26: sixteen ash.

1402
01:05:24,107 --> 01:05:25,947
Speaker 3: Or something nice, good winning margin.

1403
01:05:25,987 --> 01:05:28,387
Speaker 24: I'll probably very close to that. I probably aren't twenty

1404
01:05:28,387 --> 01:05:31,267
Speaker 24: four to forteen or something like that. Yeah, yeah, don't

1405
01:05:31,387 --> 01:05:32,347
Speaker 24: n the rate of losgi side.

1406
01:05:32,787 --> 01:05:35,307
Speaker 7: What a great family occasion for you. I sincerely hope

1407
01:05:35,627 --> 01:05:38,787
Speaker 7: that you don't have to be a witness to the lost.

1408
01:05:40,627 --> 01:05:41,907
Speaker 4: On your foot visit.

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01:05:43,307 --> 01:05:45,427
Speaker 26: Well, have the casinos to go off last night. Our

1410
01:05:45,507 --> 01:05:47,987
Speaker 26: bet our luck has surely all run out, so we're

1411
01:05:48,307 --> 01:05:49,267
Speaker 26: jeev for some good luck.

1412
01:05:49,347 --> 01:05:51,307
Speaker 3: So let's go love it boys. Hey, great to see

1413
01:05:51,347 --> 01:05:52,747
Speaker 3: you both enjoy the rest of your state. Thanks for

1414
01:05:52,747 --> 01:05:55,267
Speaker 3: stopping for a jet. Thanks, thank you, good on your boys.

1415
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Speaker 3: Thanks indeed, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eight years

1416
01:05:57,547 --> 01:05:59,307
Speaker 3: our phone number here at news Talks here, b we've

1417
01:05:59,467 --> 01:06:01,107
Speaker 3: we'll try and get to some calls with fact.

1418
01:06:01,147 --> 01:06:03,067
Speaker 7: Let's do that now because we've got a bit of

1419
01:06:03,107 --> 01:06:04,947
Speaker 7: clear ere. Hey, Jared, I know you've been wanting to

1420
01:06:04,987 --> 01:06:06,347
Speaker 7: jet for a while. Nice to hear from you, mate,

1421
01:06:07,667 --> 01:06:10,947
Speaker 7: Get fine here you go, mate, what you're having a

1422
01:06:10,987 --> 01:06:11,747
Speaker 7: good time with the kids?

1423
01:06:11,827 --> 01:06:12,027
Speaker 16: Land?

1424
01:06:12,027 --> 01:06:13,427
Speaker 10: Are there a good time?

1425
01:06:14,107 --> 01:06:15,667
Speaker 3: It's hard not to have a good time here.

1426
01:06:15,787 --> 01:06:18,147
Speaker 7: I must tell you, Jared, the vibe in the place

1427
01:06:18,907 --> 01:06:22,627
Speaker 7: is of I was gonna say celebration, Probably not that yet,

1428
01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:24,627
Speaker 7: but certainly high optimism.

1429
01:06:24,747 --> 01:06:24,947
Speaker 3: Mate.

1430
01:06:25,947 --> 01:06:28,267
Speaker 18: Well that's great and and and so you should have.

1431
01:06:28,467 --> 01:06:31,307
Speaker 14: We should expect that with all the keywings there.

1432
01:06:31,387 --> 01:06:32,907
Speaker 3: And that's just fine.

1433
01:06:33,387 --> 01:06:38,827
Speaker 5: But Piney, I just like to say, isn't it great

1434
01:06:38,907 --> 01:06:42,547
Speaker 5: with your earlier interview with Nick Pharr, Jones and Cannon

1435
01:06:43,307 --> 01:06:44,667
Speaker 5: It doesn't highlight.

1436
01:06:44,467 --> 01:06:48,747
Speaker 14: The camaraderie in sport when they talk about the you know,

1437
01:06:49,027 --> 01:06:52,387
Speaker 14: the friends they still have after you know, all those years.

1438
01:06:52,227 --> 01:06:53,987
Speaker 18: Ago playing rugby together.

1439
01:06:54,707 --> 01:06:59,307
Speaker 14: It's a great representation of of the game.

1440
01:06:59,747 --> 01:07:00,787
Speaker 3: Jared, what a great point.

1441
01:07:00,867 --> 01:07:03,467
Speaker 7: And I was thinking exactly that actually when I was

1442
01:07:03,547 --> 01:07:06,227
Speaker 7: listening to both Nick Farr Jones and Brendan Cannon. And

1443
01:07:06,507 --> 01:07:08,747
Speaker 7: it's funny when when Ian Jones came and he went

1444
01:07:08,787 --> 01:07:10,707
Speaker 7: straight up to Brendan Cannon and the two of them

1445
01:07:11,027 --> 01:07:13,387
Speaker 7: had a conversation with one another. You know, played against

1446
01:07:13,427 --> 01:07:15,547
Speaker 7: each other, not at test level, but they played against

1447
01:07:15,587 --> 01:07:18,067
Speaker 7: each other in super rugby and and that friendship was

1448
01:07:18,147 --> 01:07:20,507
Speaker 7: instantly sort of rekindled. I guess it's the same as

1449
01:07:20,827 --> 01:07:23,307
Speaker 7: as the friendships we have, you know, the guys and

1450
01:07:23,987 --> 01:07:25,827
Speaker 7: people we went to school with, you don't see them

1451
01:07:25,907 --> 01:07:27,787
Speaker 7: for you know, twenty years, but you pick up where

1452
01:07:27,787 --> 01:07:28,347
Speaker 7: you left off.

1453
01:07:29,227 --> 01:07:33,867
Speaker 14: Absolutely fine. And may I enlighten you of we know

1454
01:07:34,067 --> 01:07:35,467
Speaker 14: to talk to you on radio sports.

1455
01:07:36,027 --> 01:07:37,267
Speaker 10: I really forget those.

1456
01:07:37,147 --> 01:07:40,947
Speaker 7: Moments we do, not, Jarre, those were Jared, those were

1457
01:07:40,987 --> 01:07:44,427
Speaker 7: the days and good to rekindle our conversation here on

1458
01:07:44,587 --> 01:07:45,227
Speaker 7: z B mate.

1459
01:07:45,467 --> 01:07:48,187
Speaker 3: Are you are you feeling are you feeling confident about tonight.

1460
01:07:49,187 --> 01:07:52,307
Speaker 14: Look, Jason, you know what, and you met earlier that

1461
01:07:54,347 --> 01:07:56,787
Speaker 14: that on the back of that laugh blot.

1462
01:07:57,027 --> 01:08:00,547
Speaker 12: That you know, we're expected to win and we should.

1463
01:08:00,827 --> 01:08:03,427
Speaker 14: And but I've got this other half of me as

1464
01:08:03,467 --> 01:08:07,387
Speaker 14: well that the Wallaby they've got so much to pay for,

1465
01:08:07,987 --> 01:08:11,627
Speaker 14: they're going to come out with such might on the

1466
01:08:11,667 --> 01:08:16,747
Speaker 14: back of the recent rugby and put to bed hoodoo

1467
01:08:16,987 --> 01:08:17,787
Speaker 14: at Eden Park.

1468
01:08:17,867 --> 01:08:18,587
Speaker 5: And it worries me.

1469
01:08:19,187 --> 01:08:21,427
Speaker 14: And you know that Wallaby team at the moment is

1470
01:08:21,467 --> 01:08:24,667
Speaker 14: one of the best in a long time. And you know,

1471
01:08:24,947 --> 01:08:28,107
Speaker 14: I lived in Sydney in the early two thousands and

1472
01:08:28,547 --> 01:08:30,667
Speaker 14: I used to crop up living in Australia because we

1473
01:08:30,787 --> 01:08:32,187
Speaker 14: used to lose more than we won.

1474
01:08:32,787 --> 01:08:33,387
Speaker 9: And I.

1475
01:08:36,587 --> 01:08:39,547
Speaker 14: And you know Nick Barr Jones mentioned, you know how

1476
01:08:39,587 --> 01:08:41,747
Speaker 14: disappointing it is that we only have a two match

1477
01:08:43,107 --> 01:08:43,987
Speaker 14: where's no games.

1478
01:08:44,787 --> 01:08:46,707
Speaker 5: Maybe that needs to change, needs to change.

1479
01:08:46,747 --> 01:08:50,027
Speaker 3: But but I'm I'm I'm.

1480
01:08:49,907 --> 01:08:52,227
Speaker 14: Backing the av to get it done. But I reckon

1481
01:08:52,267 --> 01:08:54,307
Speaker 14: it's going to be a thriller at Eden Park.

1482
01:08:54,907 --> 01:08:55,507
Speaker 3: Love it, Jeric.

1483
01:08:55,547 --> 01:08:57,227
Speaker 7: Great to your voice again, Bite, Thanks for calling in

1484
01:08:57,347 --> 01:09:00,267
Speaker 7: callback anytime, mate. Maybe we can chat tomorrow after the

1485
01:09:00,667 --> 01:09:02,947
Speaker 7: after the result is knowing, but good to chat to you.

1486
01:09:03,107 --> 01:09:03,947
Speaker 3: Greg. How are you.

1487
01:09:05,587 --> 01:09:05,787
Speaker 19: Hey?

1488
01:09:05,907 --> 01:09:07,107
Speaker 25: I need going very well.

1489
01:09:07,187 --> 01:09:09,947
Speaker 27: I'm actually driving up from New Plumbouth love it and

1490
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:13,867
Speaker 27: stuck on the Southern Motorway, but all going to plan.

1491
01:09:13,947 --> 01:09:15,267
Speaker 27: I'll see you for a beer later on.

1492
01:09:15,787 --> 01:09:16,547
Speaker 10: Oh, let's talk to that.

1493
01:09:16,707 --> 01:09:19,507
Speaker 27: I just wanted to chat to you about.

1494
01:09:19,267 --> 01:09:19,827
Speaker 22: An old memory.

1495
01:09:19,827 --> 01:09:21,787
Speaker 27: I've got a pretty good man cave in New Plumuth

1496
01:09:21,827 --> 01:09:24,587
Speaker 27: and one of the black and white photographs I've got

1497
01:09:24,787 --> 01:09:28,107
Speaker 27: is signed by Alan Jones and it was from nineteen

1498
01:09:28,187 --> 01:09:30,707
Speaker 27: eighty six, them holding the Bleeder's Low Cup and the

1499
01:09:30,787 --> 01:09:34,587
Speaker 27: changing shed at Eden Park. Wow, I always laughed. I

1500
01:09:34,747 --> 01:09:37,387
Speaker 27: laugh at myself purely because it's a black and white photo,

1501
01:09:37,667 --> 01:09:40,627
Speaker 27: but obviously quite a significant moment. But I've hate my

1502
01:09:40,827 --> 01:09:44,187
Speaker 27: fair share of all black glosses, particularly in Sydney over

1503
01:09:44,267 --> 01:09:48,147
Speaker 27: the years, and I hate losing to them. And we've

1504
01:09:48,187 --> 01:09:50,307
Speaker 27: got a great record at Eden Park and we definitely

1505
01:09:50,387 --> 01:09:52,507
Speaker 27: just need to maintain that tonight. And I love the

1506
01:09:52,587 --> 01:09:53,467
Speaker 27: afternoon football.

1507
01:09:54,427 --> 01:09:54,627
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1508
01:09:54,707 --> 01:09:57,187
Speaker 7: Look, I'm a fan, so I know not everybody is,

1509
01:09:57,587 --> 01:09:59,947
Speaker 7: but look, I mean I think people can sort of

1510
01:09:59,987 --> 01:10:02,867
Speaker 7: get their build up underway early. You're obviously not too

1511
01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:04,547
Speaker 7: far away, so hopefully you can make it in for

1512
01:10:04,707 --> 01:10:08,667
Speaker 7: a for a pretest beer as well. And you're right, Greg,

1513
01:10:08,707 --> 01:10:11,107
Speaker 7: I mean you're a similar generation to me and that,

1514
01:10:11,547 --> 01:10:12,987
Speaker 7: by the sounds of it may be a bit younger.

1515
01:10:13,227 --> 01:10:15,587
Speaker 3: But you didn't used to know from test to test,

1516
01:10:15,707 --> 01:10:18,027
Speaker 3: did you, whether we were going to win or whether

1517
01:10:18,107 --> 01:10:19,067
Speaker 3: Australia were going to win?

1518
01:10:20,667 --> 01:10:20,907
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1519
01:10:20,947 --> 01:10:21,347
Speaker 22: Too, right?

1520
01:10:21,547 --> 01:10:24,267
Speaker 27: Where tonight's my one hundred and second Test match.

1521
01:10:25,667 --> 01:10:26,107
Speaker 19: On board?

1522
01:10:26,587 --> 01:10:31,067
Speaker 7: Get out one hundred and two Test matches? A holy

1523
01:10:31,187 --> 01:10:35,267
Speaker 7: old battle from a mate, mate, that is inspirational. Well,

1524
01:10:35,507 --> 01:10:37,907
Speaker 7: I hope the Southern Motorway clears in time for you

1525
01:10:37,987 --> 01:10:39,627
Speaker 7: to get here, mate, if you if you're popping into

1526
01:10:39,627 --> 01:10:41,667
Speaker 7: the Kingslander, if you can get here before three, mate,

1527
01:10:41,747 --> 01:10:44,387
Speaker 7: or shout your beer. Drive safe though until then, oh

1528
01:10:44,427 --> 01:10:46,747
Speaker 7: eight hundred and eighty ten eighties our number now, Neil,

1529
01:10:46,787 --> 01:10:49,427
Speaker 7: you were there in eighty six when campees he broke

1530
01:10:49,467 --> 01:10:50,387
Speaker 7: our hearts.

1531
01:10:51,707 --> 01:10:54,227
Speaker 22: Yes, I was piney and I was sitting with some

1532
01:10:54,307 --> 01:10:58,547
Speaker 22: friends in the what was in the west stand. Just

1533
01:10:58,827 --> 01:11:02,427
Speaker 22: historically there was a year of the baby Backs and

1534
01:11:02,947 --> 01:11:05,667
Speaker 22: I remember they lost Darroly in the first Test. It

1535
01:11:05,907 --> 01:11:09,747
Speaker 22: was second Test. We had the Cavalier attorneys and we thought, oh,

1536
01:11:09,827 --> 01:11:13,987
Speaker 22: we'll white or all over the Aussies, and again it

1537
01:11:14,107 --> 01:11:16,747
Speaker 22: was a narrow wind, which was a bit surprising. And

1538
01:11:16,827 --> 01:11:18,787
Speaker 22: then in the third test, the thing that stood out

1539
01:11:18,867 --> 01:11:22,387
Speaker 22: for me was that we were frantically running round the

1540
01:11:22,547 --> 01:11:28,387
Speaker 22: age as Frano Botka was first five, almost like Headner's chickens,

1541
01:11:28,867 --> 01:11:32,987
Speaker 22: and the Aussie defense just held us and basically wore

1542
01:11:33,107 --> 01:11:35,987
Speaker 22: us out. And then we seemed to lose the plot

1543
01:11:36,067 --> 01:11:40,747
Speaker 22: as to how to change our game plan and they

1544
01:11:40,867 --> 01:11:44,107
Speaker 22: just I think the Aussis just wore us down and

1545
01:11:44,227 --> 01:11:45,107
Speaker 22: that contributed to.

1546
01:11:45,187 --> 01:11:46,227
Speaker 11: Our defeat on the day.

1547
01:11:47,027 --> 01:11:48,427
Speaker 3: Now you might be able to confirm this.

1548
01:11:48,987 --> 01:11:51,627
Speaker 7: I had a feeling that right at the end of

1549
01:11:51,667 --> 01:11:55,747
Speaker 7: that game, New Zealand needed to make a replacement and

1550
01:11:56,987 --> 01:12:00,347
Speaker 7: sort of in the midfield positions, and I think Marty

1551
01:12:00,467 --> 01:12:02,867
Speaker 7: Barry might have come on right at the end for

1552
01:12:02,987 --> 01:12:05,867
Speaker 7: his one and only test, but didn't get on in

1553
01:12:06,027 --> 01:12:09,827
Speaker 7: time to fill the gap that David Campease actually went

1554
01:12:09,907 --> 01:12:12,547
Speaker 7: through to score the try. Does that sound familiar?

1555
01:12:14,267 --> 01:12:16,307
Speaker 10: No, your memory is better than mine, Poney.

1556
01:12:17,827 --> 01:12:21,147
Speaker 22: I don't remember that incident. I remember kier and Cowley

1557
01:12:21,587 --> 01:12:27,027
Speaker 22: not having a very successful goal kicking day, which happens

1558
01:12:27,067 --> 01:12:30,507
Speaker 22: to all of us. But yeah, no, I don't remember

1559
01:12:30,587 --> 01:12:34,547
Speaker 22: that replacement incident, but again that's just me not remembering it.

1560
01:12:35,187 --> 01:12:35,947
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all.

1561
01:12:36,107 --> 01:12:38,947
Speaker 7: I just I think, actually I don't remember it as such,

1562
01:12:39,067 --> 01:12:42,587
Speaker 7: but I remember having that story told to me. And yeah,

1563
01:12:42,627 --> 01:12:44,227
Speaker 7: but whether or not it would have made any difference

1564
01:12:44,267 --> 01:12:46,387
Speaker 7: had there been somebody there, I mean a twenty two

1565
01:12:46,467 --> 01:12:49,907
Speaker 7: points to nine when was in the context of matches

1566
01:12:49,907 --> 01:12:51,867
Speaker 7: at that time, as you know, which were very close

1567
01:12:51,947 --> 01:12:54,987
Speaker 7: between Bill Blacks and the Wallabies, was quite significant. So

1568
01:12:55,707 --> 01:12:58,347
Speaker 7: let's hope that it doesn't repeat itself tonight. Are you

1569
01:12:58,427 --> 01:12:59,547
Speaker 7: feeling confident.

1570
01:13:02,227 --> 01:13:02,627
Speaker 11: Largely?

1571
01:13:02,867 --> 01:13:06,187
Speaker 22: But I'm just aware that Joe Smith is that clever

1572
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:09,947
Speaker 22: and he might decide. I think he's probably worked out

1573
01:13:10,027 --> 01:13:15,387
Speaker 22: that sturdy Australian defense is probably his best method to

1574
01:13:15,507 --> 01:13:16,827
Speaker 22: get a favorable result.

1575
01:13:18,187 --> 01:13:19,947
Speaker 3: Great work, Neil, good to chat to you mate.

1576
01:13:20,267 --> 01:13:23,427
Speaker 7: Really have enjoyed reminiscing with you Hill, not so much

1577
01:13:23,427 --> 01:13:26,587
Speaker 7: about eighty six but about matches from the last forty

1578
01:13:26,667 --> 01:13:28,507
Speaker 7: years or so. All the best to you made and

1579
01:13:28,547 --> 01:13:30,947
Speaker 7: maybe we can chat tomorrow after the after the game

1580
01:13:31,187 --> 01:13:34,147
Speaker 7: is done. One forty one here on News Talks here,

1581
01:13:34,147 --> 01:13:35,747
Speaker 7: But let's get a breakaway when we come back.

1582
01:13:35,827 --> 01:13:36,747
Speaker 3: We're off to Australia.

1583
01:13:36,867 --> 01:13:40,267
Speaker 7: Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent set to join us right after.

1584
01:13:40,187 --> 01:13:45,467
Speaker 4: This cutting down to Old Eggs V Australia on your

1585
01:13:45,627 --> 01:13:46,627
Speaker 4: home of Sport.

1586
01:13:46,867 --> 01:13:50,267
Speaker 1: It's Weekend Sports Live from the Kingslander in Auckland with

1587
01:13:50,547 --> 01:13:53,547
Speaker 1: Jason Vine and DJ Gardner Homes.

1588
01:13:53,307 --> 01:13:56,147
Speaker 4: New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks MV.

1589
01:13:56,707 --> 01:13:58,347
Speaker 7: Bang on one forty five As we come to your

1590
01:13:58,387 --> 01:14:00,587
Speaker 7: life from the Kingslander on New North Row, don't forget

1591
01:14:00,627 --> 01:14:03,707
Speaker 7: that we are going right through to kickoff at three o'clock.

1592
01:14:03,707 --> 01:14:06,187
Speaker 7: We're going to relocate to the All Blacks Fan Zone,

1593
01:14:06,347 --> 01:14:09,107
Speaker 7: which is just about to open. If you're a ticket

1594
01:14:09,147 --> 01:14:12,867
Speaker 7: holder to the game this evening or this afternoon later today,

1595
01:14:13,467 --> 01:14:15,747
Speaker 7: if you're a ticket holder, you have access free access

1596
01:14:15,787 --> 01:14:18,987
Speaker 7: to the fan zone on the Outer Oval at Eden Park,

1597
01:14:19,107 --> 01:14:21,507
Speaker 7: so it has just opened one forty five.

1598
01:14:21,907 --> 01:14:23,707
Speaker 3: Get along there for live music.

1599
01:14:23,467 --> 01:14:28,187
Speaker 7: Food trucks, some beverage options, a chance to perhaps rub

1600
01:14:28,307 --> 01:14:31,467
Speaker 7: shoulders with a celebrity or two. We're going to be

1601
01:14:31,507 --> 01:14:34,147
Speaker 7: there after three, so from three until five will be

1602
01:14:34,267 --> 01:14:36,787
Speaker 7: continuing our build up from the All Blacks Fan Zone

1603
01:14:37,067 --> 01:14:39,467
Speaker 7: on the Outer Roval at Eden Park. But let's get

1604
01:14:39,507 --> 01:14:41,947
Speaker 7: you across the Tasman for our regular chat with our

1605
01:14:41,987 --> 01:14:43,987
Speaker 7: Australian correspondent Adam Peacock.

1606
01:14:44,347 --> 01:14:46,427
Speaker 3: Adam, as you can probably hear, we're.

1607
01:14:46,467 --> 01:14:50,267
Speaker 7: In the thicker things here at the Kingslander ahead of

1608
01:14:50,347 --> 01:14:53,627
Speaker 7: Ledislow one this afternoon. How are you feeling about Australia's

1609
01:14:53,747 --> 01:14:56,387
Speaker 7: chances of victory at Eden Park this afternoon?

1610
01:14:57,307 --> 01:14:58,067
Speaker 22: Yeah, not great.

1611
01:14:58,347 --> 01:14:59,107
Speaker 17: I'm got to be honest.

1612
01:14:59,147 --> 01:15:01,467
Speaker 11: We don't have a particularly good record at the ground,

1613
01:15:02,027 --> 01:15:04,747
Speaker 11: saying that I was eighth the last time one and

1614
01:15:04,827 --> 01:15:09,787
Speaker 11: I'm old, so yeah, look, it's not a lot of expectations,

1615
01:15:09,867 --> 01:15:12,267
Speaker 11: especially no Will Skelton and a couple of other injuries

1616
01:15:12,827 --> 01:15:16,547
Speaker 11: are picked up along the way, so very unfortunate timing

1617
01:15:16,627 --> 01:15:20,467
Speaker 11: for those things to kind of yeah, you merge into

1618
01:15:20,667 --> 01:15:23,787
Speaker 11: what was looming is a pretty good opportunity. Like we've

1619
01:15:23,787 --> 01:15:25,187
Speaker 11: said it for a long time, and this is our

1620
01:15:25,227 --> 01:15:27,267
Speaker 11: best chance to knock off to the All Blacks in

1621
01:15:27,387 --> 01:15:29,667
Speaker 11: New Zealand for the last twenty years and it hadn't happened,

1622
01:15:29,707 --> 01:15:31,747
Speaker 11: but this seemed like a pretty good one given the

1623
01:15:31,867 --> 01:15:33,467
Speaker 11: form of you guys, in the form of our guys

1624
01:15:33,827 --> 01:15:36,827
Speaker 11: for the last couple of weeks. But yeah, not entirely sure,

1625
01:15:36,907 --> 01:15:37,827
Speaker 11: especially with those outs.

1626
01:15:38,147 --> 01:15:40,107
Speaker 7: Do you still feel as though the Wallabies are on

1627
01:15:40,187 --> 01:15:43,467
Speaker 7: an upward trajectory that you know, it seems to be

1628
01:15:43,867 --> 01:15:45,547
Speaker 7: the improvements obvious, isn't it.

1629
01:15:46,027 --> 01:15:50,587
Speaker 11: Yeah, you take what was like ground zero and I'd

1630
01:15:50,667 --> 01:15:53,747
Speaker 11: say that was just after the last World Cup and

1631
01:15:55,227 --> 01:15:57,787
Speaker 11: Eddie Jones now his reputation in Australian rugby is that

1632
01:15:57,907 --> 01:16:00,147
Speaker 11: of a scorch to his policy pretty much of how

1633
01:16:00,227 --> 01:16:02,347
Speaker 11: he did things and it didn't pay off at that

1634
01:16:02,427 --> 01:16:04,947
Speaker 11: World Cup. And then what's been built since. Joe Schmidt

1635
01:16:05,787 --> 01:16:08,867
Speaker 11: absolutely clear that it's going in the right direction. So yeah,

1636
01:16:08,907 --> 01:16:11,747
Speaker 11: we'll see how far they have actually come in a

1637
01:16:11,787 --> 01:16:13,107
Speaker 11: good game like this this afternoon.

1638
01:16:13,267 --> 01:16:16,427
Speaker 7: Indeed, all right, it's not the only big sporting fixture

1639
01:16:16,867 --> 01:16:19,547
Speaker 7: on the Australian calendar today. In fact, probably the biggest

1640
01:16:19,627 --> 01:16:23,147
Speaker 7: day on the Australian sporting calendar the AFL Grand Final

1641
01:16:23,547 --> 01:16:25,907
Speaker 7: Geelong against the Brisbane lines that are sold out.

1642
01:16:26,067 --> 01:16:30,027
Speaker 3: Mcg This is the biggest day, isn't in an Australian sport.

1643
01:16:31,267 --> 01:16:33,707
Speaker 11: It's probably the biggest weekend because we've got all this

1644
01:16:33,947 --> 01:16:37,347
Speaker 11: and then yeah we've got the bladderslaw thrown in and

1645
01:16:37,387 --> 01:16:39,227
Speaker 11: I don't know what we're going to be administrators are

1646
01:16:39,267 --> 01:16:41,467
Speaker 11: doing trying to go head to head with all of

1647
01:16:41,507 --> 01:16:42,267
Speaker 11: this in Australia.

1648
01:16:42,307 --> 01:16:42,627
Speaker 25: And I know.

1649
01:16:42,707 --> 01:16:45,627
Speaker 11: Australia only has a quarter vote in the Rugby Championship

1650
01:16:45,667 --> 01:16:47,867
Speaker 11: in Southern Nations to take into account as well. But

1651
01:16:48,307 --> 01:16:50,067
Speaker 11: if you want to maximize your prior, I can get

1652
01:16:50,107 --> 01:16:51,587
Speaker 11: fresh air for it. I don't think this is the

1653
01:16:51,627 --> 01:16:53,827
Speaker 11: way to go about it because the AFL Grand Final

1654
01:16:54,147 --> 01:16:56,307
Speaker 11: it's one of those that's our little luck mini super

1655
01:16:56,347 --> 01:16:58,507
Speaker 11: Bowl that even if you're not interested in AFL you

1656
01:16:58,827 --> 01:17:00,707
Speaker 11: probably tune in and have a look at it, especially

1657
01:17:00,707 --> 01:17:04,307
Speaker 11: because they've got Snoop Dogg playing Preak Brigade entertainment, you know,

1658
01:17:04,347 --> 01:17:07,147
Speaker 11: it brings a lot of other people in. So yeah,

1659
01:17:07,907 --> 01:17:10,787
Speaker 11: it is a huge weekend overall. In Melbourne. It's the

1660
01:17:10,827 --> 01:17:13,667
Speaker 11: biggest thing since I perd Our Day in September and

1661
01:17:13,907 --> 01:17:15,787
Speaker 11: it's huge and they'll have one hundred thousand there. But

1662
01:17:16,547 --> 01:17:18,467
Speaker 11: the rest of the country kind of goes along for

1663
01:17:18,547 --> 01:17:20,507
Speaker 11: the ride for those few hours at the game's on,

1664
01:17:20,667 --> 01:17:23,787
Speaker 11: which makes it unfortunate that it's directly head to head

1665
01:17:23,827 --> 01:17:27,227
Speaker 11: with the Bladders. Like the Bladders itself deserves its own

1666
01:17:27,307 --> 01:17:28,667
Speaker 11: time slot and its own fresh air.

1667
01:17:28,907 --> 01:17:31,267
Speaker 7: This is the Brisbane line's third straight appearance in the

1668
01:17:31,307 --> 01:17:34,027
Speaker 7: Grand Final. Are they favorites or right Geelong favorites?

1669
01:17:34,187 --> 01:17:37,667
Speaker 11: Oh, Geelong of favorites. Brisbane have done well to get there.

1670
01:17:37,947 --> 01:17:42,467
Speaker 11: They've had issues around their best player locking Neil being fit,

1671
01:17:42,747 --> 01:17:46,067
Speaker 11: but Slong are just this great unit and they've had

1672
01:17:46,147 --> 01:17:48,307
Speaker 11: so much consistency over the last twenty year. They're always

1673
01:17:48,347 --> 01:17:50,467
Speaker 11: there or thereabout. They never have bad years Geelong, and

1674
01:17:51,067 --> 01:17:54,227
Speaker 11: they made the last game of the season again and

1675
01:17:54,747 --> 01:17:55,627
Speaker 11: deserving favorite.

1676
01:17:55,747 --> 01:17:57,427
Speaker 7: We'll keep eyes on that this afternoon and then of

1677
01:17:57,507 --> 01:18:01,227
Speaker 7: course the NRL preliminary finals. The Storm into the Grand

1678
01:18:01,307 --> 01:18:03,827
Speaker 7: Final are twenty to fourteen. Went over the Sharks in

1679
01:18:03,867 --> 01:18:05,827
Speaker 7: Melbourne last night. They're going to play the winner of

1680
01:18:05,907 --> 01:18:08,387
Speaker 7: tomorrow match between the Broncos.

1681
01:18:07,867 --> 01:18:08,747
Speaker 3: And the Panthers.

1682
01:18:10,347 --> 01:18:11,787
Speaker 7: The Panthers, I think we'll see that the last two

1683
01:18:11,867 --> 01:18:13,387
Speaker 7: or three weeks. They just seem to be on this

1684
01:18:13,867 --> 01:18:17,427
Speaker 7: inevitable sort of road to the Grand Final. Or might

1685
01:18:17,507 --> 01:18:18,787
Speaker 7: it stop in Brucebane tomorrow?

1686
01:18:19,307 --> 01:18:22,307
Speaker 11: Yeah, it could do. Just like it's a flick at

1687
01:18:22,307 --> 01:18:24,347
Speaker 11: the corner, I reckon, but it's a good floop at

1688
01:18:24,347 --> 01:18:26,027
Speaker 11: the coin because it would be far up and open,

1689
01:18:26,347 --> 01:18:28,627
Speaker 11: really warm conditions up at Brisbane. I think it'll be

1690
01:18:28,707 --> 01:18:30,987
Speaker 11: a great game of footy in the afternoon footy as well.

1691
01:18:30,987 --> 01:18:32,467
Speaker 11: And that's one thing about the Blood as I would

1692
01:18:32,467 --> 01:18:36,187
Speaker 11: say that hopefully it's away from the wet at night,

1693
01:18:36,307 --> 01:18:39,907
Speaker 11: which can happen that they ping it around a bit,

1694
01:18:39,947 --> 01:18:41,827
Speaker 11: and that's certainly what's going to happen in the NURL

1695
01:18:42,067 --> 01:18:45,587
Speaker 11: Prelium final. Look to the majority of the year we

1696
01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:48,347
Speaker 11: had Caner all the Bulldogs on top and we're thinking, oh,

1697
01:18:48,467 --> 01:18:51,307
Speaker 11: finally something different. But for all in sent and purposes,

1698
01:18:51,387 --> 01:18:52,907
Speaker 11: we could end up in the same GREAD final as

1699
01:18:52,907 --> 01:18:55,627
Speaker 11: the last year in Melbourne. Melbourne and Penrith and Penrith

1700
01:18:55,667 --> 01:18:57,387
Speaker 11: had just come good at the right time, they freshened

1701
01:18:57,387 --> 01:18:59,627
Speaker 11: their players up. So I just favored the Emmiga in Brisbane.

1702
01:18:59,667 --> 01:19:01,307
Speaker 11: But there should be a fantastic.

1703
01:19:00,867 --> 01:19:04,147
Speaker 7: And footy and whoever goes through, well, actually we can't

1704
01:19:04,147 --> 01:19:05,867
Speaker 7: really say that because I get the feeling of Penrith

1705
01:19:05,947 --> 01:19:08,267
Speaker 7: go through. The'll probably be favorites against the Storm, but

1706
01:19:08,867 --> 01:19:11,187
Speaker 7: would the Storm. I mean, they must be confident they're

1707
01:19:11,267 --> 01:19:14,307
Speaker 7: there again. Craig Bellamy just knows how to get these

1708
01:19:14,347 --> 01:19:15,107
Speaker 7: things done, doesn't he.

1709
01:19:15,507 --> 01:19:18,667
Speaker 11: Yeah, eleventh Grand Final for Craig Bellamy, it's an incredible

1710
01:19:18,707 --> 01:19:22,827
Speaker 11: record and look he's got this side playing well. But

1711
01:19:23,627 --> 01:19:26,107
Speaker 11: you get the feeling that they haven't totally clicked for

1712
01:19:26,187 --> 01:19:29,067
Speaker 11: eighty minutes. But I've been saying to people, maybe that's

1713
01:19:29,187 --> 01:19:32,027
Speaker 11: just them. Maybe they're not as good as some of

1714
01:19:32,147 --> 01:19:34,387
Speaker 11: maybe the other Storm teams had been over the past,

1715
01:19:34,427 --> 01:19:38,107
Speaker 11: that they've got so much strike. They're a bit different

1716
01:19:38,387 --> 01:19:40,307
Speaker 11: Melbourne when they were great back in the day, they

1717
01:19:40,347 --> 01:19:42,867
Speaker 11: were methodical and they wore teams down and they just

1718
01:19:42,947 --> 01:19:44,787
Speaker 11: ground them into the dirt. But this team can just

1719
01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:46,787
Speaker 11: come up with the try out of nowhere, so they're

1720
01:19:46,827 --> 01:19:50,187
Speaker 11: pretty good to watch. But yeah, I think if Melbourn

1721
01:19:50,187 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 11: played prison in the Grand File, Melbourne going his favorite

1722
01:19:52,387 --> 01:19:54,187
Speaker 11: because if Penrod might be ground file, they have their

1723
01:19:54,187 --> 01:19:55,587
Speaker 11: favorite because they wont for and or Roll.

1724
01:19:56,147 --> 01:19:58,027
Speaker 7: And yeah, it's one of those weekends where you need

1725
01:19:58,067 --> 01:20:00,187
Speaker 7: screens everywhere. We haven't even talked about the Ryder Cup,

1726
01:20:00,387 --> 01:20:02,347
Speaker 7: which I know you keep hys F as well. So

1727
01:20:02,787 --> 01:20:05,027
Speaker 7: good luck getting anything else done across this weekend apart

1728
01:20:05,027 --> 01:20:07,947
Speaker 7: from watching sport. Adam good to chat as always. We'll

1729
01:20:07,947 --> 01:20:10,227
Speaker 7: do it again next Saturday. You too, find have it

1730
01:20:10,267 --> 01:20:12,467
Speaker 7: the one you have a good one too at Amana Peacock.

1731
01:20:12,547 --> 01:20:16,067
Speaker 7: Our Australian corresponded with news from across the Tasman Year.

1732
01:20:16,227 --> 01:20:19,667
Speaker 7: Massive day in Melbourne, obviously, I'm sure there are plenty

1733
01:20:19,707 --> 01:20:22,027
Speaker 7: of Victorians who don't even know there's a rugby game on.

1734
01:20:22,467 --> 01:20:25,907
Speaker 7: They seem to be fairly blinked in Victoria towards the

1735
01:20:25,947 --> 01:20:26,907
Speaker 7: AFL Grand Final.

1736
01:20:26,947 --> 01:20:29,427
Speaker 3: But it is a massive massification.

1737
01:20:29,787 --> 01:20:33,067
Speaker 7: Huge Geelong Lions against the sorry Geelong Cats against the

1738
01:20:33,107 --> 01:20:35,947
Speaker 7: Brisbane Lions this afternoon. Almost got myself in trouble there

1739
01:20:36,347 --> 01:20:39,307
Speaker 7: and looking forward to seeing how that pans out. A

1740
01:20:39,347 --> 01:20:42,307
Speaker 7: little bit later on this afternoon four thirty is when

1741
01:20:42,347 --> 01:20:43,867
Speaker 7: that game is underway. And of course don't forget the

1742
01:20:44,027 --> 01:20:47,667
Speaker 7: NRL with the second of those matches with a Grand

1743
01:20:47,747 --> 01:20:51,907
Speaker 7: Final spot on the line when the Penrith Panthers try

1744
01:20:51,987 --> 01:20:54,787
Speaker 7: and beat the Brisbane Broncos and Brisbane tomorrow, I ate

1745
01:20:54,867 --> 01:20:56,867
Speaker 7: away from two here on News Talks, you'd be live

1746
01:20:57,147 --> 01:20:58,587
Speaker 7: from the Kingslander.

1747
01:21:00,267 --> 01:21:02,947
Speaker 1: Live from the Kingslander and Auckland head of the All

1748
01:21:02,987 --> 01:21:08,267
Speaker 1: Blacks v Australia Weekend Sports with Jason five and GJ. Gunn.

1749
01:21:08,307 --> 01:21:11,747
Speaker 1: The Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks NB.

1750
01:21:12,307 --> 01:21:13,227
Speaker 3: One fifty five.

1751
01:21:13,347 --> 01:21:16,107
Speaker 7: Here on News Talks heb at the Kingslander, the only

1752
01:21:16,187 --> 01:21:18,107
Speaker 7: place to be in the build up to the test

1753
01:21:18,187 --> 01:21:20,827
Speaker 7: this afternoon at Eden Park, which is just a decent

1754
01:21:20,907 --> 01:21:23,747
Speaker 7: punt away from here, really effect I think Jordy Barrett

1755
01:21:23,787 --> 01:21:26,547
Speaker 7: could probably punt the ball from the Kingslander to Eden

1756
01:21:26,627 --> 01:21:29,787
Speaker 7: Park if we really wanted. To News coming up at

1757
01:21:30,147 --> 01:21:33,867
Speaker 7: two o'clock after two we're joined by Ryan Fox. Going

1758
01:21:33,907 --> 01:21:35,307
Speaker 7: to be great to get the chance to chat to

1759
01:21:35,427 --> 01:21:38,867
Speaker 7: our number one men's golfer off the back of what

1760
01:21:39,027 --> 01:21:41,627
Speaker 7: has been a breakthrough year for him, a couple of

1761
01:21:41,667 --> 01:21:46,587
Speaker 7: wins on the PGA Tour and presumably anyway that earns

1762
01:21:46,667 --> 01:21:48,827
Speaker 7: him a lot of freedom in terms of the events

1763
01:21:48,907 --> 01:21:52,347
Speaker 7: that he has already qualified for in twenty twenty six

1764
01:21:52,707 --> 01:21:56,107
Speaker 7: and makes a schedule I'm sure a lot more, a

1765
01:21:56,187 --> 01:21:59,307
Speaker 7: lot less challenging actually to achieve. So Ryan Fox is

1766
01:21:59,307 --> 01:22:01,787
Speaker 7: gonna pop into the Kingslander for a young just after

1767
01:22:01,867 --> 01:22:02,387
Speaker 7: two o'clock.

1768
01:22:02,427 --> 01:22:03,827
Speaker 3: Don't forget, we're going right through.

1769
01:22:03,827 --> 01:22:08,507
Speaker 7: Until five when kick off is scheduled, or just after

1770
01:22:08,587 --> 01:22:11,627
Speaker 7: five o'clock. After three we're going to relocate. Now, let's

1771
01:22:11,627 --> 01:22:15,267
Speaker 7: hope we can get there relocate from the Kingslander to

1772
01:22:15,387 --> 01:22:17,587
Speaker 7: the All Blacks fan Zone. The fan zone is open

1773
01:22:17,707 --> 01:22:20,587
Speaker 7: right now on Eden Park's outer Oval. If you are

1774
01:22:20,667 --> 01:22:24,307
Speaker 7: a ticket holder, you are able to access the fan

1775
01:22:24,467 --> 01:22:25,987
Speaker 7: zone in the lead up to the test.

1776
01:22:26,027 --> 01:22:28,667
Speaker 3: Will be broadcasting from there after three o'clock.

1777
01:22:28,667 --> 01:22:31,507
Speaker 7: A couple of texts Piney after that, Ian Jones chat

1778
01:22:31,547 --> 01:22:34,427
Speaker 7: I'm ready to run through a brick wall, mate, inspirational,

1779
01:22:34,507 --> 01:22:38,507
Speaker 7: Yeah he was, and another Ian Jones text here as well.

1780
01:22:38,827 --> 01:22:41,107
Speaker 7: Listening to Ian Jones has me really fight up for

1781
01:22:41,187 --> 01:22:43,867
Speaker 7: this game. The guy's of bloody legend, the lover's passion

1782
01:22:44,307 --> 01:22:47,507
Speaker 7: for the black jersey. That is absolutely true. You only

1783
01:22:47,587 --> 01:22:49,507
Speaker 7: have to listen to Ian Jones for a few seconds

1784
01:22:49,547 --> 01:22:52,067
Speaker 7: and you get that passion coming through News next and

1785
01:22:52,147 --> 01:22:53,227
Speaker 7: then Ryan Fox.

1786
01:22:56,067 --> 01:22:59,387
Speaker 1: Bringing you the buildout, the battle and the banter as

1787
01:22:59,427 --> 01:23:01,947
Speaker 1: we count down to the first Bledisloe come Test of

1788
01:23:02,067 --> 01:23:06,227
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. It's Weekend Sport with Jason VLAs live

1789
01:23:06,387 --> 01:23:07,107
Speaker 1: from the Kingsland.

1790
01:23:07,107 --> 01:23:10,227
Speaker 4: Who are Auckland on your home of Sport News Talks EDB.

1791
01:23:12,067 --> 01:23:14,547
Speaker 7: Hello there and welcome and welcome back as the case

1792
01:23:14,627 --> 01:23:17,587
Speaker 7: may be. This is Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB.

1793
01:23:18,507 --> 01:23:20,587
Speaker 7: Seven past two. We're coming to your live from the

1794
01:23:20,707 --> 01:23:26,267
Speaker 7: Kingslander on New North Road. It is widely agreed that

1795
01:23:26,387 --> 01:23:28,987
Speaker 7: it is the best place to prepare for a Test

1796
01:23:29,067 --> 01:23:30,787
Speaker 7: match if you're not playing.

1797
01:23:30,547 --> 01:23:31,187
Speaker 3: In the test match.

1798
01:23:31,307 --> 01:23:32,947
Speaker 7: If you're playing in the test match, this would be

1799
01:23:33,227 --> 01:23:36,467
Speaker 7: the worst possible place I would imagine that you'd want

1800
01:23:36,547 --> 01:23:38,667
Speaker 7: to be but for the punters, and there are many

1801
01:23:38,747 --> 01:23:41,827
Speaker 7: of them who are shortly well. In the next couple

1802
01:23:41,827 --> 01:23:44,787
Speaker 7: of hours anyway, set to head to Eden Park for

1803
01:23:44,867 --> 01:23:47,987
Speaker 7: Bledislow Cup Test number one for twenty twenty five.

1804
01:23:48,107 --> 01:23:52,467
Speaker 3: It is proving a very popular location. Lots and lots

1805
01:23:52,507 --> 01:23:53,787
Speaker 3: of All Blacks fans, as.

1806
01:23:53,707 --> 01:23:56,507
Speaker 7: You would probably expect comparing it to when we were

1807
01:23:56,547 --> 01:23:58,867
Speaker 7: here a couple of weeks ago. When was it three

1808
01:23:58,947 --> 01:24:02,107
Speaker 7: weeks ago? When the All Blacks played South Africa at

1809
01:24:02,267 --> 01:24:06,267
Speaker 7: Eden Park. That day it was about fifty to fifty

1810
01:24:06,827 --> 01:24:09,667
Speaker 7: in the Kingslander in terms of All Blacks fans and

1811
01:24:09,827 --> 01:24:13,507
Speaker 7: South African fans. The number of spring Box fans that

1812
01:24:13,747 --> 01:24:19,307
Speaker 7: day was incredible. Incredible to see not so many in

1813
01:24:19,467 --> 01:24:21,947
Speaker 7: Green and Gold here at the Kingslander today, but that's

1814
01:24:22,027 --> 01:24:24,987
Speaker 7: not to say that there aren't any. I saw a

1815
01:24:25,027 --> 01:24:28,027
Speaker 7: group of about five walking before All wearing from head

1816
01:24:28,067 --> 01:24:33,107
Speaker 7: to toe green and gold suits, looking absolutely resplendent as

1817
01:24:33,147 --> 01:24:36,667
Speaker 7: they set as they get set to support that team

1818
01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:40,067
Speaker 7: this afternoon, and as I say, a number of all

1819
01:24:40,147 --> 01:24:42,987
Speaker 7: Blacks fans here as well, getting set for a five

1820
01:24:43,147 --> 01:24:46,907
Speaker 7: past five kickoff, and what a test match we have.

1821
01:24:47,107 --> 01:24:47,827
Speaker 3: In store for you.

1822
01:24:48,187 --> 01:24:50,587
Speaker 7: Just reminding you we will be carrying on after three

1823
01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:53,867
Speaker 7: o'clock today. Normally we hand over to the weekend collector.

1824
01:24:54,187 --> 01:24:57,707
Speaker 7: With it being a five past five kickoff, it is

1825
01:24:58,747 --> 01:25:01,787
Speaker 7: we thought only right to carry on. So after three

1826
01:25:01,867 --> 01:25:06,187
Speaker 7: o'clock we'll have Mills Mullyana on the show. Dame ly

1827
01:25:06,587 --> 01:25:10,747
Speaker 7: Carrington will also be joining us after three and all

1828
01:25:10,787 --> 01:25:13,187
Speaker 7: the build up continues as we come to you live

1829
01:25:13,307 --> 01:25:17,067
Speaker 7: from the Kingsland up on New North Road. But a

1830
01:25:17,147 --> 01:25:19,987
Speaker 7: great pleasure to welcome in our number one male golfer,

1831
01:25:20,107 --> 01:25:22,867
Speaker 7: currently ranked thirty seventh in the world and this year

1832
01:25:22,947 --> 01:25:25,227
Speaker 7: two time went up on the PGA Tour.

1833
01:25:27,947 --> 01:25:30,347
Speaker 3: Factor three would all over it.

1834
01:25:32,147 --> 01:25:39,027
Speaker 4: Oh now we're talking what a beautiful shy.

1835
01:25:41,147 --> 01:25:45,187
Speaker 16: Two putts for a second PGA tour when and you'll

1836
01:25:45,227 --> 01:25:52,787
Speaker 16: take them. The fantastic mister Fox.

1837
01:25:53,267 --> 01:25:57,027
Speaker 7: Is the King of Canada, The King of Canada indeed,

1838
01:25:57,187 --> 01:25:59,507
Speaker 7: and joining us at the Kingslander, Ryan Fox. Great to

1839
01:25:59,507 --> 01:26:02,587
Speaker 7: see you, mate. I'll just turn you on mate if

1840
01:26:02,627 --> 01:26:05,747
Speaker 7: we go. Nice to see you you too well. I

1841
01:26:05,827 --> 01:26:07,787
Speaker 7: mean it's like an All Blacks tear stay, doesn't it.

1842
01:26:07,827 --> 01:26:10,267
Speaker 7: You still follow the All Blacks closely from wherever you

1843
01:26:10,347 --> 01:26:11,027
Speaker 7: are around the world.

1844
01:26:11,387 --> 01:26:14,987
Speaker 10: I certainly do. That's a little hard to watch it

1845
01:26:15,067 --> 01:26:15,587
Speaker 10: in the US.

1846
01:26:16,067 --> 01:26:19,467
Speaker 28: Time differences don't quite work out as well as i'd hope,

1847
01:26:19,507 --> 01:26:23,187
Speaker 28: and they still haven't quite worked out what rugby is

1848
01:26:23,307 --> 01:26:25,987
Speaker 28: than the mainstream over there, so they probably need to

1849
01:26:26,027 --> 01:26:27,667
Speaker 28: do some research on streaming.

1850
01:26:27,747 --> 01:26:30,827
Speaker 10: But yeah, I follow it, I love it, and ye're

1851
01:26:30,867 --> 01:26:32,067
Speaker 10: looking forward to this afternoon.

1852
01:26:32,507 --> 01:26:34,827
Speaker 7: You were born in nineteen eighty seven, so just a

1853
01:26:34,907 --> 01:26:37,627
Speaker 7: few months before your dad guided the All Blacks to

1854
01:26:37,827 --> 01:26:42,547
Speaker 7: Rugby World Cup glory in eighty seven. Were you aware

1855
01:26:43,227 --> 01:26:45,307
Speaker 7: When did you become aware of your father as a

1856
01:26:45,427 --> 01:26:46,987
Speaker 7: rugby player, not just your dad.

1857
01:26:50,307 --> 01:26:52,627
Speaker 28: He retired when I was six, so I probably didn't

1858
01:26:52,667 --> 01:26:54,387
Speaker 28: quite grasp the concept.

1859
01:26:55,507 --> 01:26:57,747
Speaker 10: While he was still playing. I remember a couple of

1860
01:26:58,107 --> 01:26:59,187
Speaker 10: couple of games of him.

1861
01:26:59,107 --> 01:27:02,587
Speaker 28: Playing, but I more remember, you know, running around the

1862
01:27:02,627 --> 01:27:06,227
Speaker 28: aftermatch function, you know, kicking balls on the field after

1863
01:27:06,427 --> 01:27:07,707
Speaker 28: the game. When you were allowed to do that.

1864
01:27:09,227 --> 01:27:09,267
Speaker 17: That.

1865
01:27:09,747 --> 01:27:11,947
Speaker 10: The only thing I really remember is him kicking a

1866
01:27:12,027 --> 01:27:15,027
Speaker 10: goal against the Lions in ninety three, which I think

1867
01:27:15,187 --> 01:27:18,787
Speaker 10: was for Auckland, and I remember to win the game,

1868
01:27:18,867 --> 01:27:21,627
Speaker 10: but I subsequently told it was like twenty minutes to

1869
01:27:21,707 --> 01:27:23,987
Speaker 10: go or whatever. But that's what a six year old

1870
01:27:23,987 --> 01:27:29,787
Speaker 10: brain remembers. But yeah, I sort of as I got older,

1871
01:27:29,867 --> 01:27:31,227
Speaker 10: I appreciated it more.

1872
01:27:31,267 --> 01:27:34,587
Speaker 28: Obviously, I understood a bit more, and you know, he

1873
01:27:34,667 --> 01:27:36,267
Speaker 28: was getting stopped in the street and all of that.

1874
01:27:36,467 --> 01:27:39,467
Speaker 28: And you watched a few of the old games and

1875
01:27:39,667 --> 01:27:40,307
Speaker 28: was like, oh, yeah.

1876
01:27:40,187 --> 01:27:44,627
Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, Dad was pretty good under statement, So how

1877
01:27:44,747 --> 01:27:46,227
Speaker 7: seriously did you play right be?

1878
01:27:46,347 --> 01:27:46,787
Speaker 3: Growing up?

1879
01:27:47,347 --> 01:27:50,827
Speaker 28: I was the whole way through school. I played first

1880
01:27:50,827 --> 01:27:55,187
Speaker 28: fifteen at Kings and seventh form. Probably had a few

1881
01:27:55,227 --> 01:27:58,307
Speaker 28: too many concussions to carry on, but yeah, I loved it.

1882
01:27:58,507 --> 01:28:01,827
Speaker 10: I wasn't I didn't help myself.

1883
01:28:01,867 --> 01:28:04,107
Speaker 28: I played ten and I kept goals as well, so

1884
01:28:04,267 --> 01:28:06,467
Speaker 28: there was only going to be one comparison there, and

1885
01:28:06,547 --> 01:28:07,787
Speaker 28: I was never going to live up to that.

1886
01:28:08,187 --> 01:28:09,787
Speaker 10: The only thing I had on the old man is

1887
01:28:09,827 --> 01:28:11,027
Speaker 10: I wasn't afraid of tackling.

1888
01:28:12,667 --> 01:28:14,627
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's something you've reminded him of in the

1889
01:28:14,707 --> 01:28:15,187
Speaker 3: years since.

1890
01:28:15,307 --> 01:28:16,587
Speaker 10: Yeah, and of course your.

1891
01:28:16,507 --> 01:28:20,307
Speaker 7: Mum's dad, MERV Wallace, captain New Zealand's and cricket as well,

1892
01:28:20,387 --> 01:28:22,787
Speaker 7: and was an absolutely brilliant batsman, so you would have

1893
01:28:22,827 --> 01:28:24,387
Speaker 7: been a decent cricketer as well.

1894
01:28:24,627 --> 01:28:26,547
Speaker 10: Yep. I played cricket all the way through school too.

1895
01:28:27,627 --> 01:28:30,147
Speaker 28: I played a year of club cricket after I left

1896
01:28:30,187 --> 01:28:33,507
Speaker 28: school and didn't enjoy that as much as school cricket.

1897
01:28:33,547 --> 01:28:36,067
Speaker 10: And that's when I tried tournament golf.

1898
01:28:36,067 --> 01:28:38,627
Speaker 28: I played off two at that point, you know, so

1899
01:28:38,707 --> 01:28:41,587
Speaker 28: I was a decent golfer, but you know, never took

1900
01:28:41,627 --> 01:28:43,867
Speaker 28: it seriously. And when I was doing a lawd of

1901
01:28:43,907 --> 01:28:46,227
Speaker 28: Great Auckland UNI and gave up cricketer, I'm been thought

1902
01:28:46,267 --> 01:28:47,227
Speaker 28: I need something competitive.

1903
01:28:47,307 --> 01:28:48,747
Speaker 10: What am I going to do? I was like, oh,

1904
01:28:48,747 --> 01:28:50,827
Speaker 10: I've played a couple of junior tournaments. I liked those.

1905
01:28:50,907 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 10: Let's give that a crack and that was me done.

1906
01:28:53,147 --> 01:28:55,587
Speaker 7: What a year it's been for you, mate, those two

1907
01:28:55,667 --> 01:28:58,027
Speaker 7: PGA Tour wins. I've heard you say a couple of

1908
01:28:58,107 --> 01:29:01,227
Speaker 7: times that you knew your best golf across a given

1909
01:29:01,267 --> 01:29:04,147
Speaker 7: weekend was good enough to beat the best golfers in

1910
01:29:04,187 --> 01:29:04,547
Speaker 7: the world.

1911
01:29:05,107 --> 01:29:07,787
Speaker 3: Is that what happened? At least twice this year.

1912
01:29:08,827 --> 01:29:12,227
Speaker 28: Yeah, I mean, obviously Myrtle Beach was an ultimate event,

1913
01:29:12,347 --> 01:29:14,827
Speaker 28: so it wasn't the best of the best playing, but

1914
01:29:14,867 --> 01:29:16,267
Speaker 28: there's still some really good players.

1915
01:29:16,347 --> 01:29:20,187
Speaker 10: But you know, Canada is as a pretty prestigious event.

1916
01:29:21,187 --> 01:29:22,547
Speaker 10: You know, Rory was playing that week.

1917
01:29:22,587 --> 01:29:24,707
Speaker 28: There was a few other a few other guys playing

1918
01:29:24,747 --> 01:29:27,787
Speaker 28: this week in the Ryder Cup that were playing, So yeah,

1919
01:29:27,867 --> 01:29:30,667
Speaker 28: it was that one was extra special. You know that

1920
01:29:31,427 --> 01:29:34,467
Speaker 28: the getting the first one was was amazing and if

1921
01:29:34,547 --> 01:29:36,907
Speaker 28: that was the only one, great, but Canada was just

1922
01:29:37,307 --> 01:29:39,307
Speaker 28: that little bit better. And obviously you know, getting it

1923
01:29:39,347 --> 01:29:42,667
Speaker 28: done in the playoff and everything, Yeah it was. It

1924
01:29:42,827 --> 01:29:45,187
Speaker 28: was great and you know, nice to get to that

1925
01:29:45,307 --> 01:29:47,827
Speaker 28: point where, yeah, as you said, I had kind of

1926
01:29:48,107 --> 01:29:50,267
Speaker 28: believed it, and it was nice to actually do.

1927
01:29:50,387 --> 01:29:51,747
Speaker 3: It in Canada.

1928
01:29:52,107 --> 01:29:55,027
Speaker 7: It was what the fourth playoff hole to beat Sam Burns,

1929
01:29:55,747 --> 01:29:58,947
Speaker 7: Were you more relaxed in that playoff situation, having.

1930
01:29:58,827 --> 01:30:00,787
Speaker 3: Already chalked up when it moved or beach or not.

1931
01:30:01,467 --> 01:30:03,747
Speaker 28: Yeah, Look, I think a playoffs probably a little bit

1932
01:30:03,827 --> 01:30:07,587
Speaker 28: more relaxed to an extent than coming down the stretch anyway,

1933
01:30:07,627 --> 01:30:09,987
Speaker 28: because you know, the worse you can finish the second

1934
01:30:10,307 --> 01:30:12,707
Speaker 28: like I always thought playoffs are something that you see

1935
01:30:12,747 --> 01:30:13,507
Speaker 28: as an opportunity.

1936
01:30:13,507 --> 01:30:15,267
Speaker 10: I've got a chance to win, give it a go.

1937
01:30:15,547 --> 01:30:17,987
Speaker 28: If it doesn't work out, well, you know, it's not

1938
01:30:18,107 --> 01:30:22,907
Speaker 28: like you can double the last and finish Firth. But yeah,

1939
01:30:22,907 --> 01:30:26,547
Speaker 28: it was certainly a little easier in Canada knowing I'd

1940
01:30:26,587 --> 01:30:29,027
Speaker 28: already done it at Myrtle Beach. Now was you know,

1941
01:30:29,227 --> 01:30:31,027
Speaker 28: kind of playing with house money. And it was the

1942
01:30:31,107 --> 01:30:33,987
Speaker 28: same coming down the stretch there. It was like, I'm

1943
01:30:34,027 --> 01:30:37,427
Speaker 28: not playing for anything by trying to win the tournament,

1944
01:30:37,867 --> 01:30:39,627
Speaker 28: and that's a really good place to be coming down

1945
01:30:39,627 --> 01:30:41,747
Speaker 28: the streets. You're not thinking big picture, it's worth first

1946
01:30:41,827 --> 01:30:44,587
Speaker 28: saw I need these points to keep my card or anything.

1947
01:30:44,627 --> 01:30:45,867
Speaker 28: It was like, I've got to reything sort of, I

1948
01:30:45,987 --> 01:30:48,947
Speaker 28: just want to win, and it was it was nice

1949
01:30:48,987 --> 01:30:51,067
Speaker 28: to pull it off down the stretch jumping around.

1950
01:30:51,107 --> 01:30:54,627
Speaker 7: But back to Myrtle Beach, that chip, that chippin' to winners.

1951
01:30:55,387 --> 01:30:57,867
Speaker 7: How do you reflect on that on that golf shot.

1952
01:31:01,387 --> 01:31:03,787
Speaker 28: Honestly, I just look at it at I'd had a

1953
01:31:03,867 --> 01:31:06,867
Speaker 28: bit of bad luck in playoff and that was that

1954
01:31:07,067 --> 01:31:10,467
Speaker 28: was the one that I got it all back. You know,

1955
01:31:10,587 --> 01:31:14,747
Speaker 28: I had a couple of guys whole stupid amounts of

1956
01:31:14,787 --> 01:31:17,747
Speaker 28: puts on me and the Irish Open and the Dutch

1957
01:31:17,827 --> 01:31:21,107
Speaker 28: Open on the dp Wold Tour. And when I hit

1958
01:31:21,147 --> 01:31:23,467
Speaker 28: it in the trees on on eighteen the Myrtle Beach,

1959
01:31:23,547 --> 01:31:25,467
Speaker 28: which actually wasn't that bad a tea shot, it just

1960
01:31:25,467 --> 01:31:27,507
Speaker 28: clipped the edge of it, spat it left, and I

1961
01:31:27,587 --> 01:31:29,027
Speaker 28: was like, oh, it's going to be this again.

1962
01:31:29,187 --> 01:31:31,507
Speaker 10: You know, it's you know, I get stuffed in a playoff.

1963
01:31:31,587 --> 01:31:33,707
Speaker 28: But I thought I was pretty lucky to get into

1964
01:31:33,747 --> 01:31:35,867
Speaker 28: a playoff. And then I had a great shot to

1965
01:31:35,867 --> 01:31:37,867
Speaker 28: get to that back of the green and when that

1966
01:31:38,027 --> 01:31:41,027
Speaker 28: chip went and I was like, oh, okay, I've had

1967
01:31:41,027 --> 01:31:42,707
Speaker 28: the luck go the other way for once. And I'm

1968
01:31:42,747 --> 01:31:45,587
Speaker 28: standing there looking at my caddy going we're about due

1969
01:31:45,667 --> 01:31:47,347
Speaker 28: for something to go our way in a playoff. And

1970
01:31:47,387 --> 01:31:49,707
Speaker 28: I couldn't watch the guy's part and just went on

1971
01:31:49,787 --> 01:31:53,467
Speaker 28: the crowd reaction. I was like, oh, well, okay, that

1972
01:31:53,587 --> 01:31:54,467
Speaker 28: happened pretty quick.

1973
01:31:54,947 --> 01:31:56,907
Speaker 3: Loved it. And then your kids playing in the sand.

1974
01:31:57,227 --> 01:31:58,227
Speaker 10: Yep that was in Canada.

1975
01:31:58,347 --> 01:32:01,467
Speaker 28: I mean, they couldn't have kid less that dad was

1976
01:32:01,467 --> 01:32:03,307
Speaker 28: standing up there with a trophy and talking to a

1977
01:32:03,347 --> 01:32:03,787
Speaker 28: few people.

1978
01:32:03,867 --> 01:32:06,347
Speaker 10: They just saw a big sandpit and wanted.

1979
01:32:06,187 --> 01:32:09,547
Speaker 7: To the other special part of it that Canadian Open

1980
01:32:09,707 --> 01:32:11,347
Speaker 7: was the fact that there were members of the All

1981
01:32:11,347 --> 01:32:12,667
Speaker 7: Whites watching as well.

1982
01:32:12,707 --> 01:32:15,347
Speaker 3: They were over there for a mini tournament.

1983
01:32:15,387 --> 01:32:17,587
Speaker 7: That must have been quite cool to have some other Kiwis,

1984
01:32:17,707 --> 01:32:19,507
Speaker 7: or not just Kiwis, but key we sports people there

1985
01:32:19,507 --> 01:32:19,827
Speaker 7: as well.

1986
01:32:19,987 --> 01:32:20,867
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was really cool.

1987
01:32:21,387 --> 01:32:23,587
Speaker 28: I don't even know they were playing until like a

1988
01:32:23,667 --> 01:32:25,547
Speaker 28: couple of days before, and I got off of tickets

1989
01:32:25,587 --> 01:32:28,707
Speaker 28: to their game, but we were staying quite a way

1990
01:32:28,787 --> 01:32:31,787
Speaker 28: away and it was pretty hard to make it into

1991
01:32:31,827 --> 01:32:32,867
Speaker 28: Toronto itself, and.

1992
01:32:35,227 --> 01:32:37,147
Speaker 10: I heard Chris wood had asked if he could get

1993
01:32:37,187 --> 01:32:38,067
Speaker 10: some tickets for Sunday.

1994
01:32:38,107 --> 01:32:41,507
Speaker 28: I said, no problem, And actually I sent one of

1995
01:32:41,547 --> 01:32:44,787
Speaker 28: the PGA to a media guys into the game. He's

1996
01:32:44,787 --> 01:32:47,067
Speaker 28: a Kiwi by the name of Mark Williams, and he

1997
01:32:47,187 --> 01:32:48,787
Speaker 28: was like, oh, how you got a contact for the game?

1998
01:32:48,827 --> 01:32:49,347
Speaker 10: Can I get in?

1999
01:32:49,467 --> 01:32:51,627
Speaker 28: I'm like, yeah, mate, no problem. Got on some tickets

2000
01:32:51,667 --> 01:32:53,547
Speaker 28: and then he got in touch with the All Whites guys,

2001
01:32:53,947 --> 01:32:54,787
Speaker 28: and it wasn't just a.

2002
01:32:54,787 --> 01:32:56,187
Speaker 10: Few of them that wanted to come out, it was

2003
01:32:56,227 --> 01:32:59,107
Speaker 10: all of them. And I could hear.

2004
01:32:59,587 --> 01:33:01,147
Speaker 28: I could definitely hear them when I was out on

2005
01:33:01,227 --> 01:33:03,827
Speaker 28: the golf course during the round. I didn't really pay

2006
01:33:03,947 --> 01:33:07,427
Speaker 28: that much attention out on the while on the golf course,

2007
01:33:07,507 --> 01:33:10,267
Speaker 28: but you know, coming in and seeing them all there

2008
01:33:11,107 --> 01:33:12,747
Speaker 28: at the end was pretty amazing.

2009
01:33:12,787 --> 01:33:12,907
Speaker 3: You know.

2010
01:33:13,067 --> 01:33:15,867
Speaker 28: It's amazing that keywis pop up everywhere, and to have

2011
01:33:15,947 --> 01:33:18,987
Speaker 28: the all whites there to celebrate it was extra special.

2012
01:33:19,107 --> 01:33:19,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very cool.

2013
01:33:19,907 --> 01:33:20,027
Speaker 1: Like it.

2014
01:33:20,067 --> 01:33:21,467
Speaker 7: We're going to find it later in the year where

2015
01:33:21,467 --> 01:33:23,627
Speaker 7: they're going to be based for the World Cup next year.

2016
01:33:23,667 --> 01:33:26,787
Speaker 7: I don't know that the schedules are unlikely to collide favorably,

2017
01:33:26,827 --> 01:33:27,387
Speaker 7: but who knows.

2018
01:33:27,627 --> 01:33:28,947
Speaker 3: You might be able to return the favor and go

2019
01:33:28,987 --> 01:33:29,827
Speaker 3: along and watch them play.

2020
01:33:29,907 --> 01:33:31,587
Speaker 10: That would be very cool. Yeah, very cool.

2021
01:33:31,627 --> 01:33:34,587
Speaker 7: So how much freedom does twenty twenty five give you

2022
01:33:34,707 --> 01:33:36,307
Speaker 7: over your twenty twenty sixth schedule?

2023
01:33:38,187 --> 01:33:40,227
Speaker 10: Basically all the freedom in the world.

2024
01:33:40,947 --> 01:33:41,107
Speaker 1: You know.

2025
01:33:41,227 --> 01:33:43,227
Speaker 28: The biggest thing on the PJA too and now is

2026
01:33:43,267 --> 01:33:46,587
Speaker 28: finishing in that top fifty in the FedEx Cup, and

2027
01:33:46,667 --> 01:33:49,147
Speaker 28: that gives you you get to pick and choose your schedule.

2028
01:33:49,227 --> 01:33:52,067
Speaker 28: I get all the elevated events or signature events next year.

2029
01:33:53,547 --> 01:33:56,187
Speaker 28: I got three of the four majors guaranteed. I'm not

2030
01:33:56,307 --> 01:33:58,107
Speaker 28: quite not in the US Open yet, but in a

2031
01:33:58,187 --> 01:34:00,707
Speaker 28: pretty good place world ranking wise to get in next year, and.

2032
01:34:03,627 --> 01:34:05,267
Speaker 10: It's a lot different than it has been the last

2033
01:34:05,307 --> 01:34:05,867
Speaker 10: couple of years.

2034
01:34:06,707 --> 01:34:08,627
Speaker 28: I feel like the PGA Tour does a great job

2035
01:34:08,707 --> 01:34:11,187
Speaker 28: of making you play, whether you're trying to keep a

2036
01:34:11,227 --> 01:34:14,467
Speaker 28: card or you're trying to get into something, and I

2037
01:34:14,627 --> 01:34:16,227
Speaker 28: certainly had that in the last couple of years. I

2038
01:34:16,307 --> 01:34:18,667
Speaker 28: ended up playing a lot of events to try to

2039
01:34:19,187 --> 01:34:22,027
Speaker 28: get into those signature events. And then this year, obviously,

2040
01:34:22,067 --> 01:34:23,387
Speaker 28: with a couple of wins, I got in a couple

2041
01:34:23,387 --> 01:34:25,187
Speaker 28: of majors and a couple of signature events and ended

2042
01:34:25,267 --> 01:34:27,427
Speaker 28: up playing something like nine of ten weeks in a

2043
01:34:27,507 --> 01:34:28,547
Speaker 28: row through the middle of the year.

2044
01:34:28,667 --> 01:34:31,067
Speaker 10: And I was pretty beaten up at the end of

2045
01:34:31,067 --> 01:34:31,827
Speaker 10: the year because of that.

2046
01:34:32,547 --> 01:34:34,827
Speaker 28: It was all worth it, though, and then next year,

2047
01:34:34,987 --> 01:34:36,267
Speaker 28: you know, I know, at the start of the year,

2048
01:34:36,347 --> 01:34:39,587
Speaker 28: for the first time, I can at least until the

2049
01:34:39,747 --> 01:34:42,227
Speaker 28: Open in July, I can pick my schedule and.

2050
01:34:42,267 --> 01:34:44,707
Speaker 10: Pretty much not deviate from that, which will be really good.

2051
01:34:45,987 --> 01:34:49,467
Speaker 7: Winning a major Is that a goal? Is it even

2052
01:34:49,507 --> 01:34:51,027
Speaker 7: a thing to be a goal? Or is it just

2053
01:34:51,147 --> 01:34:54,747
Speaker 7: something that will happen as a product of your continued

2054
01:34:54,787 --> 01:34:55,747
Speaker 7: good form as a golfer.

2055
01:34:56,307 --> 01:34:59,227
Speaker 28: I feel like that's on the dream list rather than

2056
01:34:59,827 --> 01:35:02,787
Speaker 28: a straight goal list. But you know, winning on the

2057
01:35:02,827 --> 01:35:06,267
Speaker 28: PGA Tour was a dream two or three years ago,

2058
01:35:06,507 --> 01:35:10,147
Speaker 28: so you know, that jumped into the goal list this year.

2059
01:35:10,267 --> 01:35:12,507
Speaker 28: So hopefully the same thing can kind of happen with

2060
01:35:12,667 --> 01:35:15,907
Speaker 28: a major. You know, I have proven to myself that

2061
01:35:16,107 --> 01:35:20,347
Speaker 28: my good golf is good enough. It's just a question

2062
01:35:20,467 --> 01:35:22,387
Speaker 28: of doing it in the right week, and that's really

2063
01:35:23,147 --> 01:35:25,067
Speaker 28: hard to do. I mean there's a few guys that

2064
01:35:25,147 --> 01:35:27,267
Speaker 28: tend to do it pretty well. Tigers the obvious one

2065
01:35:27,307 --> 01:35:29,627
Speaker 28: over the years, Scotti Scheffler seems very very good at

2066
01:35:29,667 --> 01:35:32,387
Speaker 28: doing it. Rory has always been good at doing it.

2067
01:35:32,547 --> 01:35:35,667
Speaker 28: But you know there's a lot of top players that

2068
01:35:36,627 --> 01:35:39,187
Speaker 28: struggle with it sometimes too. You just you go out,

2069
01:35:39,227 --> 01:35:40,707
Speaker 28: you try to do your best, and if it works,

2070
01:35:40,747 --> 01:35:43,547
Speaker 28: it works. If it doesn't it doesn't then, you know,

2071
01:35:43,667 --> 01:35:46,587
Speaker 28: major championships, if you're a little bit off, you get

2072
01:35:46,667 --> 01:35:50,587
Speaker 28: beaten up really really quickly. So yeah, hopefully next year,

2073
01:35:50,827 --> 01:35:54,147
Speaker 28: I've obviously got at least three chances, and you know,

2074
01:35:54,227 --> 01:35:56,387
Speaker 28: hopefully one of those three weeks is the week that

2075
01:35:56,507 --> 01:35:58,627
Speaker 28: I play really good and give myself a chance on

2076
01:35:58,667 --> 01:36:00,227
Speaker 28: Sunday and at that point, anything can happen.

2077
01:36:00,507 --> 01:36:03,067
Speaker 7: So you're back home here for what about eight weeks,

2078
01:36:03,107 --> 01:36:06,147
Speaker 7: a couple of tournaments in Australia back in November early December.

2079
01:36:06,427 --> 01:36:10,267
Speaker 28: Yep, I've got Ossie PGA Assie Open, which feels like

2080
01:36:10,467 --> 01:36:11,587
Speaker 28: my start of the season.

2081
01:36:11,667 --> 01:36:14,547
Speaker 10: Really, this is my holiday, you know, got.

2082
01:36:15,947 --> 01:36:17,947
Speaker 28: A couple of young kids, and spend some time with

2083
01:36:18,027 --> 01:36:20,147
Speaker 28: them doing dad stuff and catch up with friends and

2084
01:36:20,227 --> 01:36:22,907
Speaker 28: family and all all that kind of stuff, and hopefully

2085
01:36:22,947 --> 01:36:24,827
Speaker 28: do a little bit of fishing in the next month

2086
01:36:24,987 --> 01:36:28,787
Speaker 28: or so, and then getting into November, start the prep

2087
01:36:28,907 --> 01:36:32,347
Speaker 28: for those two Ossie events and you know, I get

2088
01:36:32,387 --> 01:36:34,467
Speaker 28: I'll take a little bit of time off again before Christmas,

2089
01:36:34,547 --> 01:36:36,907
Speaker 28: but then it'll be building up to you know, the

2090
01:36:36,987 --> 01:36:39,947
Speaker 28: starter next year, and I don't know where my first.

2091
01:36:39,747 --> 01:36:41,987
Speaker 10: Event will be. That's the only pick up in the schedule.

2092
01:36:42,067 --> 01:36:44,787
Speaker 28: The Century's not going to be in Hawaii this year

2093
01:36:45,147 --> 01:36:48,427
Speaker 28: or next year, so just kind of waiting on news

2094
01:36:48,467 --> 01:36:49,667
Speaker 28: to figure out where that's going to be.

2095
01:36:49,827 --> 01:36:52,827
Speaker 10: But yeah, it's it's nice to have a break.

2096
01:36:53,387 --> 01:36:55,987
Speaker 28: It's been a been a busy year and looking forward

2097
01:36:55,987 --> 01:36:58,427
Speaker 28: to some downtime and kind of an off season. Get

2098
01:36:58,467 --> 01:37:00,947
Speaker 28: the body, sort of get the mind, sorted and hopefully

2099
01:37:00,987 --> 01:37:02,627
Speaker 28: find a golf game in November.

2100
01:37:02,827 --> 01:37:05,787
Speaker 7: And a NUK of fuel chasing the foxes back Royal

2101
01:37:06,027 --> 01:37:07,867
Speaker 7: Living Range Golf Hub December twelve.

2102
01:37:08,307 --> 01:37:10,347
Speaker 3: Different format this year as a yeah, it.

2103
01:37:10,427 --> 01:37:12,427
Speaker 10: Is if anyone's followed it.

2104
01:37:12,467 --> 01:37:15,427
Speaker 28: The last couple of years, the guys playing their own

2105
01:37:15,507 --> 01:37:20,547
Speaker 28: ball have really struggled, and it's you know, we personally,

2106
01:37:20,587 --> 01:37:22,187
Speaker 28: I feel like there's a bit of pressure on there.

2107
01:37:22,267 --> 01:37:25,467
Speaker 28: You want to play really well six holes as a sprint,

2108
01:37:26,187 --> 01:37:28,227
Speaker 28: and if you miss a couple of parts earlier or

2109
01:37:28,307 --> 01:37:30,947
Speaker 28: hit one bad shot, you're kind of out of the event.

2110
01:37:31,627 --> 01:37:34,667
Speaker 28: And you know Nick Randall, who who's the brains behind it.

2111
01:37:35,827 --> 01:37:37,507
Speaker 28: Him and I have had a good chat about it

2112
01:37:37,627 --> 01:37:39,507
Speaker 28: over the last sort of six months and tried to

2113
01:37:39,507 --> 01:37:42,467
Speaker 28: figure out what we could do better, and you know,

2114
01:37:42,627 --> 01:37:46,707
Speaker 28: one was making sure that we have a partner. So

2115
01:37:47,507 --> 01:37:50,987
Speaker 28: we're still working out sort of the logistics of all

2116
01:37:51,027 --> 01:37:51,907
Speaker 28: of that and who that's going to.

2117
01:37:51,907 --> 01:37:54,307
Speaker 10: Be and everything. But I'm going to play with someone

2118
01:37:54,387 --> 01:37:56,987
Speaker 10: this year, you know, Dan Helly.

2119
01:37:56,987 --> 01:37:58,827
Speaker 28: I hopefully we'll be back and he'll play with someone

2120
01:37:58,947 --> 01:38:02,627
Speaker 28: and just to make it a bit more interesting for us,

2121
01:38:02,987 --> 01:38:04,627
Speaker 28: hopefully we can be in it the whole time. It

2122
01:38:04,747 --> 01:38:06,987
Speaker 28: also gives us some scope for the bit of teams

2123
01:38:07,067 --> 01:38:10,067
Speaker 28: that we can get some better golfers for them. We've

2124
01:38:10,147 --> 01:38:13,827
Speaker 28: tried to manage it the last few years with if

2125
01:38:13,867 --> 01:38:15,667
Speaker 28: there's three good golfers and a team, they're going to

2126
01:38:15,667 --> 01:38:16,587
Speaker 28: be impossible to beat.

2127
01:38:16,747 --> 01:38:19,667
Speaker 10: So we've managed the handicap so it feels like it's

2128
01:38:19,707 --> 01:38:20,267
Speaker 10: going to be fair.

2129
01:38:20,347 --> 01:38:22,947
Speaker 28: Whereas you know, this year, hopefully with two of us

2130
01:38:22,987 --> 01:38:26,227
Speaker 28: against three, we can just get the best golfers possible.

2131
01:38:27,107 --> 01:38:29,427
Speaker 3: What's it like watching a rugby test with your dad?

2132
01:38:31,827 --> 01:38:36,947
Speaker 28: You need mus to be honest, No, obviously he's he's

2133
01:38:37,107 --> 01:38:41,307
Speaker 28: very passionate about it. Still, he's very knowledgeable. He's always

2134
01:38:41,347 --> 01:38:45,307
Speaker 28: had a pretty short fuse. I think anyone that anyone

2135
01:38:45,347 --> 01:38:47,387
Speaker 28: that ever played with him, you know who was known

2136
01:38:47,427 --> 01:38:49,427
Speaker 28: as the little General and that still comes out. He

2137
01:38:49,587 --> 01:38:51,907
Speaker 28: likes swearing at the TV and it all comes from

2138
01:38:51,907 --> 01:38:54,707
Speaker 28: a good place. But he can be he can be

2139
01:38:54,747 --> 01:38:56,547
Speaker 28: a little bit loud to watch that you watch the

2140
01:38:56,627 --> 01:38:56,947
Speaker 28: game with.

2141
01:38:57,867 --> 01:39:00,187
Speaker 7: Great to see you, mate, Thanks for making time you

2142
01:39:00,267 --> 01:39:01,947
Speaker 7: know in your time off to come and never chat

2143
01:39:01,987 --> 01:39:03,907
Speaker 7: to us. Enjoy the rest of the day man, and

2144
01:39:03,947 --> 01:39:06,867
Speaker 7: really good to catch up. Congratulations on a magnificent year. Thanks, Jason,

2145
01:39:06,867 --> 01:39:09,347
Speaker 7: appreciate it all the best. D mate Jess Ryan Fox

2146
01:39:09,427 --> 01:39:11,507
Speaker 7: joining us here at the Kingslander. Gee, what a year

2147
01:39:11,547 --> 01:39:13,787
Speaker 7: for her mate. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2148
01:39:13,787 --> 01:39:15,587
Speaker 7: If you want to join the conversation, we're here at

2149
01:39:15,627 --> 01:39:19,347
Speaker 7: the Kingslander until three o'clock this afternoon, and then we'll

2150
01:39:19,427 --> 01:39:22,667
Speaker 7: transition across to the fan zone where we'll have the

2151
01:39:22,787 --> 01:39:25,787
Speaker 7: chance to chat to many more punters and others besides.

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01:39:25,827 --> 01:39:27,147
Speaker 7: But let's take a break, come back with some of

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01:39:27,187 --> 01:39:30,027
Speaker 7: your calls. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. This is

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01:39:30,067 --> 01:39:32,507
Speaker 7: Weekend Sport on news TALKSHEEDB two twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three play from the Kingslander in Auckland. It's Weekend Sport

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01:39:37,467 --> 01:39:41,387
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01:39:41,427 --> 01:39:43,427
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01:39:43,747 --> 01:39:45,867
Speaker 3: Two twenty six. Here at News TALKSHEDB.

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Speaker 7: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty can take some

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01:39:48,027 --> 01:39:50,347
Speaker 7: calls on the Bladerslough this afternoon.

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01:39:50,427 --> 01:39:52,587
Speaker 3: It's been a busy whole afternoon, I can tell you.

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01:39:52,867 --> 01:39:54,827
Speaker 7: Just before we go to the lines, Mike says Foxy

2163
01:39:54,907 --> 01:39:58,507
Speaker 7: winning the PGA at Wentworth and then Alfred Dunhill showed

2164
01:39:58,667 --> 01:40:00,627
Speaker 7: Ryan could beat the best in the world. But not

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01:40:00,747 --> 01:40:02,627
Speaker 7: only that, he comes across as one of the world's

2166
01:40:02,667 --> 01:40:05,987
Speaker 7: good blokes. Absolutely one of the world's best blokes. That's

2167
01:40:05,987 --> 01:40:07,747
Speaker 7: the thing of Ryan Fox, is he just I mean,

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01:40:07,787 --> 01:40:11,147
Speaker 7: he's so famous, but he's just sort of here at

2169
01:40:11,187 --> 01:40:13,507
Speaker 7: the King's Land with everybody else and sort of moving

2170
01:40:13,587 --> 01:40:16,347
Speaker 7: around saying good ay and just enjoying himself.

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01:40:16,467 --> 01:40:19,547
Speaker 15: So good gooda Mark, Yeah, good afternoon, Boddy.

2172
01:40:19,587 --> 01:40:19,867
Speaker 5: How are you.

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01:40:20,307 --> 01:40:21,507
Speaker 10: I'm good it you're good.

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Speaker 15: Here'd be a part owners of the King's Lander, won't

2175
01:40:24,387 --> 01:40:25,667
Speaker 15: you if you get them any more time?

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01:40:25,987 --> 01:40:28,507
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're going to offer me some shares. I'm sure

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01:40:28,667 --> 01:40:31,147
Speaker 7: Mark in the company if I continue to show up

2178
01:40:31,187 --> 01:40:33,307
Speaker 7: as I have. But I can tell you, mate, it's

2179
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:34,587
Speaker 7: not the worst place in the world.

2180
01:40:35,467 --> 01:40:36,027
Speaker 22: No it's not.

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01:40:36,507 --> 01:40:38,067
Speaker 19: I'm just got a quick one for you, Piney.

2182
01:40:38,707 --> 01:40:42,107
Speaker 15: I come into the year the Yeah, the corn Elison's

2183
01:40:42,107 --> 01:40:44,507
Speaker 15: scored the four tries against the All Blacks. Now, I

2184
01:40:44,587 --> 01:40:47,227
Speaker 15: hope it doesn't happen again. And I'd just like to

2185
01:40:47,307 --> 01:40:50,547
Speaker 15: know if that record still stands for anybody to score

2186
01:40:50,627 --> 01:40:52,307
Speaker 15: that many tries against the All Blacks.

2187
01:40:52,827 --> 01:40:53,787
Speaker 3: That's a very good question.

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01:40:53,947 --> 01:40:56,587
Speaker 7: So I remember Greg corn Nelson scoring those four tries

2189
01:40:56,867 --> 01:40:59,867
Speaker 7: would have been what late sevens, he's early eighties around there.

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01:41:00,707 --> 01:41:01,507
Speaker 11: Well, I'm not sure.

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01:41:01,787 --> 01:41:03,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was in the eighties somewhere, pioneer.

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01:41:04,027 --> 01:41:06,667
Speaker 11: I was there that day, but I was drinking double Brown, So.

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01:41:08,787 --> 01:41:14,307
Speaker 3: So you can't you can't. You can't remember it. Nineteen

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01:41:14,387 --> 01:41:18,427
Speaker 3: seventy eight, Mark, I can tell you nineteen, Yeah, that

2195
01:41:18,587 --> 01:41:18,707
Speaker 3: was it.

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01:41:19,787 --> 01:41:22,107
Speaker 15: Did that record still stand for anybody to scored that

2197
01:41:22,187 --> 01:41:23,747
Speaker 15: many tries against the All Blacks?

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01:41:23,907 --> 01:41:28,547
Speaker 7: I'm just trying to remember anyone getting four tries against

2199
01:41:28,587 --> 01:41:32,187
Speaker 7: the All Blacks since then. Now, you know, the good

2200
01:41:32,227 --> 01:41:34,707
Speaker 7: thing Mark about this is that somebody will know if

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01:41:34,747 --> 01:41:37,427
Speaker 7: it has been done, and they will us know, so

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01:41:38,147 --> 01:41:41,027
Speaker 7: so we'll check it out there. No one jumps instantly

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01:41:41,107 --> 01:41:45,907
Speaker 7: to mine, No one. I can't remember anybody scoring four tries.

2204
01:41:45,907 --> 01:41:49,027
Speaker 7: I can remember All Blacks scoring four tries. I know

2205
01:41:49,147 --> 01:41:53,027
Speaker 7: Will Jordan got five in the game. But yeah, but look,

2206
01:41:53,107 --> 01:41:55,667
Speaker 7: let's let's throw it out there to the assembled throng.

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01:41:55,627 --> 01:41:59,707
Speaker 15: All right, and say, I do have the AA number

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01:41:59,747 --> 01:42:00,507
Speaker 15: if you need it, so.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, Mark, I'll get you to give it to my

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01:42:04,427 --> 01:42:08,987
Speaker 7: producer off air and Phad we can we can make

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01:42:09,107 --> 01:42:10,947
Speaker 7: use of it if we need it good to chat

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01:42:10,947 --> 01:42:12,747
Speaker 7: to oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. There's a

2213
01:42:12,747 --> 01:42:15,147
Speaker 7: spear line there if you want to jump aboard. Just

2214
01:42:15,307 --> 01:42:19,827
Speaker 7: updating you from Forsyth Bar Stadium in Dunedin, where Otago

2215
01:42:19,827 --> 01:42:23,107
Speaker 7: will put the Ranfurley Shield on the line today against

2216
01:42:23,227 --> 01:42:23,787
Speaker 7: North Harbor.

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01:42:24,387 --> 01:42:27,587
Speaker 3: Earlier on in the game, North Harbor, we're looking all right.

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01:42:27,667 --> 01:42:31,467
Speaker 7: Actually, they were out to a fourteen points to seven

2219
01:42:31,587 --> 01:42:35,267
Speaker 7: lead after twenty minutes. A couple of tries, including one

2220
01:42:35,347 --> 01:42:38,427
Speaker 7: to Mark t Layer and fourteen to seven. They were

2221
01:42:38,467 --> 01:42:44,627
Speaker 7: ahead after twenty minutes, but then it's been all Otago

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01:42:44,707 --> 01:42:47,787
Speaker 7: since then and they now lead by twenty eight points

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01:42:48,267 --> 01:42:51,467
Speaker 7: to fourteen, twenty eight points to fourteen, and that's with

2224
01:42:51,587 --> 01:42:54,267
Speaker 7: an hour gone. So it looks very much as though

2225
01:42:54,387 --> 01:42:57,747
Speaker 7: Otago will hold on to the Ranfurley Shield, not just today,

2226
01:42:58,307 --> 01:43:00,387
Speaker 7: but we'll hold on to it for the rest of

2227
01:43:00,507 --> 01:43:03,427
Speaker 7: this year and through the summer because there are no more.

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01:43:04,947 --> 01:43:07,467
Speaker 3: There are no more challenges to be for Otago.

2229
01:43:08,067 --> 01:43:10,827
Speaker 7: If North Harbor do somehow find a way back into

2230
01:43:10,867 --> 01:43:13,387
Speaker 7: this game and end up taking the shield with them

2231
01:43:13,427 --> 01:43:17,187
Speaker 7: back up to Albany, then they will have to fend

2232
01:43:17,187 --> 01:43:19,947
Speaker 7: off a challenge from South for next weekend. But at

2233
01:43:19,987 --> 01:43:22,827
Speaker 7: the moment it's looking like Otago might have the log

2234
01:43:23,347 --> 01:43:25,987
Speaker 7: for the summer Warren four tries.

2235
01:43:26,267 --> 01:43:27,467
Speaker 3: What have you got for a step up?

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01:43:27,907 --> 01:43:29,867
Speaker 17: I was there that day with my father in law.

2237
01:43:29,947 --> 01:43:33,347
Speaker 17: He was a rugby fan. I was a rugby league fan.

2238
01:43:34,067 --> 01:43:35,907
Speaker 17: Took me to see an all that game. We sat

2239
01:43:35,987 --> 01:43:39,027
Speaker 17: behind the gold host and I remember every tribe and

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01:43:39,107 --> 01:43:42,067
Speaker 17: Greek all out the cord had he won.

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01:43:42,027 --> 01:43:43,187
Speaker 8: The crowd up Broad a.

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01:43:43,187 --> 01:43:45,907
Speaker 17: Little bit louder, but it was a memorable occasion. I

2243
01:43:46,067 --> 01:43:48,707
Speaker 17: don't think anybody had bellance don no.

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01:43:49,027 --> 01:43:50,907
Speaker 7: I can't imagine. And the fact that he was a

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01:43:51,027 --> 01:43:53,547
Speaker 7: loose forward as well. I remember him and you probably

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01:43:53,627 --> 01:43:55,347
Speaker 7: will do. Warre it as a big guy. Big beard

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01:43:55,427 --> 01:43:58,267
Speaker 7: had a headband on. From memory, does that sound familiar?

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01:43:59,107 --> 01:44:01,387
Speaker 17: Yep. He looked like like common leaves look alike. He

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01:44:01,507 --> 01:44:04,027
Speaker 17: had that sort of build the headband on. Quite a

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01:44:04,107 --> 01:44:06,787
Speaker 17: strappy guy. For him to score it oop right, it

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01:44:06,907 --> 01:44:08,427
Speaker 17: was quite quite amazing to watch.

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01:44:08,587 --> 01:44:09,067
Speaker 8: It really was.

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01:44:09,507 --> 01:44:12,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable. So was that your first time at Eaton

2254
01:44:12,067 --> 01:44:14,147
Speaker 3: Park and my first.

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01:44:13,947 --> 01:44:15,987
Speaker 17: Time in eating targets? And say my father in law,

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01:44:16,627 --> 01:44:18,027
Speaker 17: I've met the father in law. He was a real

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01:44:18,107 --> 01:44:21,267
Speaker 17: Redbach break me fan. He could name the Orange boy

2258
01:44:21,387 --> 01:44:23,227
Speaker 17: for the first All back team. He knew that much

2259
01:44:23,267 --> 01:44:25,707
Speaker 17: about it. And he was coaching me about the game

2260
01:44:25,827 --> 01:44:27,547
Speaker 17: and I'm thinking, I'm a league man, I love you

2261
01:44:27,867 --> 01:44:30,507
Speaker 17: freaking me. But it was a great day, was really

2262
01:44:30,627 --> 01:44:33,587
Speaker 17: really good. I'm still a league man and afore man

2263
01:44:33,867 --> 01:44:35,467
Speaker 17: and I'm a game for the Wallaby to nine and

2264
01:44:35,507 --> 01:44:36,387
Speaker 17: I hope they can repeat it.

2265
01:44:36,427 --> 01:44:38,627
Speaker 3: The force ride good one, you Warren.

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01:44:38,787 --> 01:44:40,667
Speaker 7: It takes the calling with your memories, mate, Yeah, what

2267
01:44:40,747 --> 01:44:42,667
Speaker 7: a day that was, not only for Greek corn Nelson,

2268
01:44:42,907 --> 01:44:45,027
Speaker 7: but for the all for the Wallabies as well to

2269
01:44:45,347 --> 01:44:46,107
Speaker 7: get the job done.

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01:44:46,707 --> 01:44:49,587
Speaker 3: Dave Bie mate, there morning good in.

2271
01:44:49,627 --> 01:44:51,147
Speaker 11: The eighth Nelson.

2272
01:44:51,507 --> 01:44:53,187
Speaker 19: Yeah, it was the only tribe he was scored.

2273
01:44:53,227 --> 01:44:55,147
Speaker 3: And the tea get out.

2274
01:44:56,787 --> 01:44:59,787
Speaker 19: On the next part was because I was there and yeah,

2275
01:44:59,787 --> 01:45:02,307
Speaker 19: and then they beat us ninety eighty in the series

2276
01:45:02,627 --> 01:45:04,547
Speaker 19: and we lost all go then mind he give me

2277
01:45:04,667 --> 01:45:06,227
Speaker 19: hind They prost Bill as they packed in one of

2278
01:45:07,227 --> 01:45:09,347
Speaker 19: so four games we lost him around and they won

2279
01:45:10,027 --> 01:45:10,467
Speaker 19: eighty two.

2280
01:45:12,027 --> 01:45:12,787
Speaker 3: That's incredible.

2281
01:45:12,867 --> 01:45:17,027
Speaker 7: So so he got four tries in that test, Andrew,

2282
01:45:17,027 --> 01:45:21,587
Speaker 7: And I'm just having a photo taken, just just kidding

2283
01:45:21,587 --> 01:45:25,267
Speaker 7: a photo, taking a little sorry, Dave, my my attention

2284
01:45:25,547 --> 01:45:27,547
Speaker 7: was divided there for a second guy came over for

2285
01:45:27,667 --> 01:45:31,507
Speaker 7: a fund. He doesn't understand the live radio part of this, clearly. Yeah,

2286
01:45:31,547 --> 01:45:33,507
Speaker 7: but so four tries and that tests and no more

2287
01:45:33,587 --> 01:45:35,947
Speaker 7: tries ever ninety eight.

2288
01:45:36,067 --> 01:45:37,987
Speaker 19: I think he's carried on eighty four. He never scored

2289
01:45:38,027 --> 01:45:41,387
Speaker 19: any tries after that. And in ninety eighty six you're

2290
01:45:41,387 --> 01:45:44,347
Speaker 19: talking about ninety eighty six and Peas was at fall,

2291
01:45:44,387 --> 01:45:46,747
Speaker 19: but he just tries. The guys would put us apart

2292
01:45:47,507 --> 01:45:51,747
Speaker 19: wall and it wasn't still the normal combination. That was

2293
01:45:52,827 --> 01:45:56,107
Speaker 19: Andrew Black and brick petwoods that wasn't coming foreign and

2294
01:45:56,267 --> 01:45:57,427
Speaker 19: Jason littlecause they didn't.

2295
01:45:57,227 --> 01:45:59,667
Speaker 3: Come onong for water long no true true.

2296
01:45:59,867 --> 01:46:03,267
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're went to Lega aftert but he's absolutely destrayed

2297
01:46:03,307 --> 01:46:06,707
Speaker 19: up the buildings have never been in still was upistone.

2298
01:46:06,227 --> 01:46:08,347
Speaker 11: And poll come your medium.

2299
01:46:09,587 --> 01:46:12,547
Speaker 7: I remember Brett Papworth had this amazing step. Do you

2300
01:46:12,587 --> 01:46:15,507
Speaker 7: remember that he used to step guys like they weren't even.

2301
01:46:15,427 --> 01:46:19,707
Speaker 11: There they here to That was along the woods.

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01:46:21,707 --> 01:46:23,187
Speaker 17: And so it was a good tackler.

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01:46:24,187 --> 01:46:26,307
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dave, good to chat to you, mate, Thanks for

2304
01:46:26,387 --> 01:46:30,387
Speaker 7: calling him with your memories. Sorry, I had to leave

2305
01:46:30,427 --> 01:46:33,227
Speaker 7: the conversation halfway through to get a photo taken. I'm

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01:46:33,267 --> 01:46:35,387
Speaker 7: not sure that that guy probably thinks he's getting a

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01:46:35,387 --> 01:46:37,387
Speaker 7: photo with a Prime minister or something like that. Similar

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01:46:37,467 --> 01:46:42,667
Speaker 7: kind of haircut. Oh, i'd had eighty ten eighty our number, Damo,

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01:46:42,747 --> 01:46:45,747
Speaker 7: says Jason. I agree with your thoughts on the All

2310
01:46:45,747 --> 01:46:48,467
Speaker 7: Blacks game, but I'm broke and I'm back to Australia

2311
01:46:48,587 --> 01:46:52,907
Speaker 7: one to twelve at six dollars fifty, looking forward to

2312
01:46:52,947 --> 01:46:57,307
Speaker 7: an Australian win and making perfect sighting. Yeah, I'm not

2313
01:46:57,427 --> 01:47:00,027
Speaker 7: sure that I that I want that to happen, and

2314
01:47:00,107 --> 01:47:03,267
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that it will happen. As I said

2315
01:47:03,347 --> 01:47:05,187
Speaker 7: at the top of the show for those who are listening,

2316
01:47:05,467 --> 01:47:08,187
Speaker 7: I just think what happened two weeks ago in Wellington

2317
01:47:09,667 --> 01:47:12,627
Speaker 7: will have a huge, huge effect.

2318
01:47:13,027 --> 01:47:16,667
Speaker 3: On what happens at Eden Park later on today.

2319
01:47:16,907 --> 01:47:18,747
Speaker 7: It just feels to me as though when the All

2320
01:47:18,827 --> 01:47:21,507
Speaker 7: Blacks lose the game of rugby in the fashion that

2321
01:47:21,627 --> 01:47:25,867
Speaker 7: they did, and look, they've never lost by that many.

2322
01:47:26,227 --> 01:47:28,187
Speaker 7: We all know this the biggest ever defeat, it just

2323
01:47:28,267 --> 01:47:33,227
Speaker 7: feels to me like a response is absolutely compulsory. It

2324
01:47:33,347 --> 01:47:38,547
Speaker 7: is just required and on an occasion such as this

2325
01:47:38,747 --> 01:47:43,427
Speaker 7: where you feed that in. Then you think about the

2326
01:47:44,067 --> 01:47:49,387
Speaker 7: eden Park record of fifty one games and counting without

2327
01:47:49,467 --> 01:47:49,987
Speaker 7: defeat in.

2328
01:47:50,027 --> 01:47:52,427
Speaker 3: A Test match there for the All Blacks.

2329
01:47:52,507 --> 01:47:56,867
Speaker 7: Then you start thinking about the Bledisloe Cup and the

2330
01:47:56,947 --> 01:47:59,507
Speaker 7: fact that Australia haven't had their hands on that since

2331
01:48:00,147 --> 01:48:02,587
Speaker 7: Brendan Cannon, who we spoke to earlier on in the show,

2332
01:48:03,387 --> 01:48:05,107
Speaker 7: was part of the team that lifted it in two

2333
01:48:05,187 --> 01:48:08,147
Speaker 7: thousand and two. All Blacks got it back in two

2334
01:48:08,187 --> 01:48:11,387
Speaker 7: thousand and three, big went over in Melbourne.

2335
01:48:11,507 --> 01:48:12,427
Speaker 3: Was Melbourne or Sydney?

2336
01:48:12,427 --> 01:48:16,387
Speaker 7: I think fifty four they put on the Wallabies that day,

2337
01:48:16,587 --> 01:48:21,707
Speaker 7: came back and at eden Park twenty one seventeen from memory,

2338
01:48:21,787 --> 01:48:24,347
Speaker 7: they won it in two thousand and three and it

2339
01:48:24,467 --> 01:48:26,667
Speaker 7: hasn't been on the other side of the Tasman since.

2340
01:48:27,227 --> 01:48:32,147
Speaker 7: It just feels to me as though there's too many

2341
01:48:32,227 --> 01:48:36,427
Speaker 7: factors at play for the All Blacks not to win tonight.

2342
01:48:36,547 --> 01:48:39,347
Speaker 7: I know that's not really based on anything other than

2343
01:48:41,107 --> 01:48:45,867
Speaker 7: sort of not absolutes, sort of vagaries, but it feels

2344
01:48:45,907 --> 01:48:50,467
Speaker 7: a bit like the South African Test here three weeks ago,

2345
01:48:50,587 --> 01:48:52,587
Speaker 7: where there was the eden Park record on the line.

2346
01:48:53,587 --> 01:48:57,547
Speaker 7: There was the long standing rivalry with South Africa and

2347
01:48:57,587 --> 01:49:00,347
Speaker 7: the fact that they felt that this was their chance

2348
01:49:00,467 --> 01:49:04,587
Speaker 7: to break down the one final barrier that they hadn't

2349
01:49:04,587 --> 01:49:06,787
Speaker 7: been able to breach, and that was the eden Park Fortress.

2350
01:49:06,827 --> 01:49:09,067
Speaker 7: We had Ardie save as one hundred at the Test

2351
01:49:09,107 --> 01:49:12,667
Speaker 7: match that night, so there was the extra emotion wrapped

2352
01:49:12,667 --> 01:49:15,907
Speaker 7: around that too. It just feels a bit similar tonight

2353
01:49:15,987 --> 01:49:19,707
Speaker 7: to me that there's too much at play here. There's

2354
01:49:19,787 --> 01:49:25,867
Speaker 7: too many factors playing into this, Jake says Jason Norman.

2355
01:49:25,907 --> 01:49:26,387
Speaker 3: Old bugget.

2356
01:49:27,107 --> 01:49:29,267
Speaker 7: When was the Test that Australia won when John Eels

2357
01:49:29,347 --> 01:49:31,587
Speaker 7: kicked the late penalty? Wasn't that at eden Park, Jake?

2358
01:49:31,667 --> 01:49:34,307
Speaker 7: That was at sky Stadium. That was in two thousand.

2359
01:49:35,427 --> 01:49:39,147
Speaker 7: We were chatting about that earlier on this afternoon when

2360
01:49:40,147 --> 01:49:42,547
Speaker 7: there was the first of all in two thousand, there

2361
01:49:42,627 --> 01:49:45,427
Speaker 7: was that Test in Melbourne where Jonah scored right at

2362
01:49:45,467 --> 01:49:47,187
Speaker 7: the end to make at thirty nine thirty five and

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01:49:47,347 --> 01:49:50,867
Speaker 7: we came back home with a chance to reclaim the

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Speaker 7: Bledislow which Australia had at that time. And then in

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Speaker 7: or even west Pac Trust Stadium as it was back then,

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Speaker 7: John Eels kicked the penalty in the last minute to

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Speaker 7: win it and Australia retained the bl Slow Cup.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that wasn't a Eden Park, that was in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Daryl good Daryl good Good, I think.

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Speaker 25: The All Blanks are going to be dangerous tonight because

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Speaker 25: it's like Keith Poney, like I've got too much on whe.

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Speaker 27: Got too much under the bell.

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Speaker 25: Yeah like that, we're having that back last against out

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Speaker 25: there again and then lat it like cup on the line,

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Speaker 25: and yeah, they're going to be dangerous.

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Speaker 11: I know when White twelve plus.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I tend to agree Daryld that that's how it

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Speaker 7: feels to me. I think some people are picking quite

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Speaker 7: a close game. I feel like there will be the

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Speaker 7: All Blacks going away.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I think the All Blanks are going to have

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Speaker 25: to watching old tonight because your backs are just going

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Speaker 25: to be heat.

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Speaker 7: Good Man, Darryl, you're cutting out just a little bit there,

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Speaker 7: But got the gist of it, mate, I'm a you.

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Speaker 3: I've got the All Blacks winning it.

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Speaker 7: Comfortably if you can call it that tonight, if anything's

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Speaker 7: I mean there's just no part of me that can

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Speaker 3: We shall see twenty two away from three.

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Speaker 29: Do you mean apart from the Greens? That seems we're

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Speaker 7: So muss go along, go on, Hadley break is to

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Speaker 7: win by eleven plus if that happens today game it's tonight.

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Speaker 7: But the New Zealand under twenty men's football side begin

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Speaker 7: their fee for World Cup campaign at midday tomorrow New

2473
01:54:51,787 --> 01:54:55,547
Speaker 7: Zealand time. They play the host's Chili before further matches

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Speaker 7: against Egypt and Japan. Let's bring a New Zealand striker

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01:54:58,987 --> 01:55:01,307
Speaker 7: Luke Brooks Smith out of Chili. Luke, thanks for your

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Speaker 7: time mate. How's your time in Chili Bean as you

2477
01:55:03,947 --> 01:55:04,987
Speaker 7: prepare for your first game?

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01:55:06,747 --> 01:55:06,947
Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:55:07,027 --> 01:55:08,347
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, it's been amazing.

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Speaker 30: It's pretty refreshing in a way to be with a

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01:55:11,827 --> 01:55:15,227
Speaker 30: group of boys my age and around so different difinitely

2482
01:55:15,267 --> 01:55:16,427
Speaker 30: changes that dynamic for me.

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01:55:17,507 --> 01:55:18,227
Speaker 24: But yeah, I'm loving that.

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01:55:18,307 --> 01:55:19,387
Speaker 10: The team spirit super high.

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Speaker 30: We're all buzzing for the first game. I mean, what

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01:55:21,947 --> 01:55:24,387
Speaker 30: forty forty five thousand people for the opening match is

2487
01:55:24,387 --> 01:55:25,787
Speaker 30: gonna be. Yeah, it's gonna be unreal.

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01:55:27,107 --> 01:55:30,107
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a terrific start for you, isn't it will

2489
01:55:30,147 --> 01:55:31,747
Speaker 7: there be a bit of extra spice, a bit of

2490
01:55:31,787 --> 01:55:34,627
Speaker 7: extra excitement given the fact that you are playing the

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01:55:34,707 --> 01:55:37,587
Speaker 7: host nation in front of such a big, no doubt,

2492
01:55:38,067 --> 01:55:39,387
Speaker 7: you know, loud crowd.

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Speaker 30: I think so definitely. I think definitely the thing that's

2494
01:55:44,347 --> 01:55:48,267
Speaker 30: gonna really dictate it is I think being able to

2495
01:55:48,707 --> 01:55:51,427
Speaker 30: almost keep our heads. I've sort of said this about

2496
01:55:51,427 --> 01:55:54,307
Speaker 30: the Derby matches in New Zealand and my small football career,

2497
01:55:54,387 --> 01:55:55,787
Speaker 30: that you don't want to play it up to be

2498
01:55:55,907 --> 01:55:57,987
Speaker 30: such a big game and your head just got to

2499
01:55:58,147 --> 01:55:59,787
Speaker 30: keep focused. I think that's what we're going to try

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01:55:59,827 --> 01:56:02,187
Speaker 30: to do if card's going to be I think I

2501
01:56:02,307 --> 01:56:04,907
Speaker 30: know no one here has been in the sort of

2502
01:56:05,027 --> 01:56:05,987
Speaker 30: environment like that before.

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01:56:06,427 --> 01:56:07,467
Speaker 10: Going to be such a good experience.

2504
01:56:07,867 --> 01:56:10,747
Speaker 7: The vast majority of the squad played Chile twice back

2505
01:56:10,827 --> 01:56:13,067
Speaker 7: in June and warm up matches a couple of narrow losses.

2506
01:56:13,307 --> 01:56:14,907
Speaker 3: You scored a brilliant goal in the first game.

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01:56:15,267 --> 01:56:17,787
Speaker 7: Do you feel like your match up fairly well against

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01:56:17,827 --> 01:56:21,707
Speaker 7: them from that experience, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 30: We've done a lot of analysis on them, and I

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01:56:24,107 --> 01:56:27,347
Speaker 30: think we've improved the squad in terms of the way

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01:56:27,387 --> 01:56:29,707
Speaker 30: we play. We're in had about a week together a

2512
01:56:29,747 --> 01:56:32,427
Speaker 30: couple of days before the first match only, so it's

2513
01:56:32,547 --> 01:56:34,427
Speaker 30: nice to be able to have some time and not

2514
01:56:34,547 --> 01:56:37,427
Speaker 30: rushing the processes and build up and defending. So I

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01:56:37,507 --> 01:56:40,387
Speaker 30: think it'll be a good almost a surprise to the

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01:56:40,427 --> 01:56:41,747
Speaker 30: world is that we want to do and show what

2517
01:56:42,027 --> 01:56:43,867
Speaker 30: Zealand football can do at youth levels.

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01:56:44,187 --> 01:56:44,467
Speaker 10: Love that.

2519
01:56:44,987 --> 01:56:47,507
Speaker 7: And how much have you worked on combinations and connection

2520
01:56:47,667 --> 01:56:49,547
Speaker 7: given the fact that, look, there's a bunch of year

2521
01:56:49,547 --> 01:56:51,347
Speaker 7: from the Phoenix, a few from Auckland FC, but the

2522
01:56:51,387 --> 01:56:53,867
Speaker 7: others are drawn from far and wide. So how much

2523
01:56:53,907 --> 01:56:56,267
Speaker 7: have you worked on connections during your time together?

2524
01:56:57,747 --> 01:57:01,387
Speaker 30: Yeah, a lot, a lot, definitely. I think, like I said,

2525
01:57:01,427 --> 01:57:04,307
Speaker 30: there's no rush this camp in terms of getting to

2526
01:57:04,387 --> 01:57:07,507
Speaker 30: know each other and every everything. We all know each

2527
01:57:07,507 --> 01:57:09,947
Speaker 30: other fairly well. I think it's about getting the connection

2528
01:57:10,027 --> 01:57:12,587
Speaker 30: on the field, and we've had so many trainings together

2529
01:57:12,667 --> 01:57:15,147
Speaker 30: now we've been here for about a week and a bit,

2530
01:57:15,347 --> 01:57:18,147
Speaker 30: so I think leading into the game we're almost like

2531
01:57:18,227 --> 01:57:20,747
Speaker 30: a family, which I think is gonna help us so much.

2532
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Speaker 7: You said before a really interesting thing about you know

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Speaker 7: about big games like the Derby's that you played in

2534
01:57:26,267 --> 01:57:29,307
Speaker 7: and other big matches and not playing the game, before

2535
01:57:29,387 --> 01:57:31,187
Speaker 7: the game arrives, I guess, you know, not letting it

2536
01:57:31,307 --> 01:57:35,347
Speaker 7: become too big a thing. How do you stay relatively

2537
01:57:35,467 --> 01:57:38,787
Speaker 7: relaxed ahead of what it is really quite a big game?

2538
01:57:40,387 --> 01:57:43,147
Speaker 30: Yeah, I think I have an experience that where these

2539
01:57:43,187 --> 01:57:45,827
Speaker 30: World Cup matches could potentially.

2540
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Speaker 27: Go down to you.

2541
01:57:46,667 --> 01:57:48,867
Speaker 30: When you're in the tournament, you lose your out. And

2542
01:57:48,947 --> 01:57:51,987
Speaker 30: I think for me, is I like the put pressure

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01:57:51,987 --> 01:57:53,987
Speaker 30: on myself. I think that's what I'm at my best

2544
01:57:54,107 --> 01:57:58,347
Speaker 30: is when there's pressure to perform, pressureing the fans to

2545
01:57:58,467 --> 01:57:58,867
Speaker 30: do well.

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01:57:59,027 --> 01:58:00,627
Speaker 10: And I think we're speaking on.

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01:58:00,627 --> 01:58:02,187
Speaker 30: The bus with a couple of boys and some of

2548
01:58:02,227 --> 01:58:04,147
Speaker 30: them are saying they don't like that, But for me,

2549
01:58:04,267 --> 01:58:07,067
Speaker 30: I think that's what makes me play my very best.

2550
01:58:07,107 --> 01:58:09,547
Speaker 30: So I think for myself is I'm gonna I want

2551
01:58:09,587 --> 01:58:12,067
Speaker 30: to put pressure on myself to go down and play

2552
01:58:12,147 --> 01:58:14,787
Speaker 30: the best and do everything I can for the country.

2553
01:58:14,947 --> 01:58:17,147
Speaker 30: I think you're just not often you get to play

2554
01:58:17,147 --> 01:58:19,107
Speaker 30: in front of that many people, let alone for your country.

2555
01:58:19,227 --> 01:58:21,427
Speaker 30: So for me, I'm not going to play it up

2556
01:58:21,467 --> 01:58:22,947
Speaker 30: in my head, but I know it is a big game,

2557
01:58:22,987 --> 01:58:24,427
Speaker 30: and I think that's going to help me play my

2558
01:58:24,587 --> 01:58:24,987
Speaker 30: very best.

2559
01:58:25,307 --> 01:58:28,027
Speaker 7: It's been nearly three weeks since your full all White

2560
01:58:28,067 --> 01:58:30,147
Speaker 7: stable a go media or against Australia.

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Speaker 3: You've had a bit of time to reflect on that.

2562
01:58:31,867 --> 01:58:31,987
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: How special a moment was that for you and for

2564
01:58:34,067 --> 01:58:34,507
Speaker 3: your family?

2565
01:58:36,747 --> 01:58:38,387
Speaker 24: Yeah, it was unbelievable.

2566
01:58:39,067 --> 01:58:42,067
Speaker 30: I think what made it even better was potentially not

2567
01:58:42,147 --> 01:58:44,347
Speaker 30: coming on in the first game in camera. Maybe it's

2568
01:58:44,467 --> 01:58:47,547
Speaker 30: more hungry to perform in training to hopefully get me

2569
01:58:48,147 --> 01:58:50,267
Speaker 30: to become an option off the bench. And you know,

2570
01:58:50,427 --> 01:58:53,307
Speaker 30: it was nice to make my debut in Auckland. Definitely

2571
01:58:53,387 --> 01:58:55,627
Speaker 30: with all my friends and family there. I mean, I've

2572
01:58:55,627 --> 01:58:57,347
Speaker 30: got my dad coming in for this tournament and I

2573
01:58:57,467 --> 01:59:00,387
Speaker 30: think having them there is just makes me play even better.

2574
01:59:00,467 --> 01:59:02,987
Speaker 30: And yeah, it's just such a special experience with them.

2575
01:59:03,267 --> 01:59:04,307
Speaker 3: It's been quite the year for you.

2576
01:59:04,427 --> 01:59:07,667
Speaker 7: You signed pro for the Phoenix, had Nale just before Christmas,

2577
01:59:07,667 --> 01:59:10,227
Speaker 7: scored your first goal in the derby in February, then

2578
01:59:10,227 --> 01:59:12,187
Speaker 7: an all Whites day boo, and now a World Cup.

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Speaker 3: But could you have imagined all of this twelve months ago?

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Speaker 8: No, no, no.

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Speaker 30: I was sort of looking back to where I was

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Speaker 30: about this time of year ago, and I was about

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Speaker 30: three weeks after my under sixteen qualifiers in Tahiti and

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Speaker 30: then I was just focused on making a nunder seventeen

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Speaker 30: World Cup and hopefully signing for the Phoenix as a plan.

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Speaker 30: And I think that's given me loads of motivations because

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Speaker 30: now I think, well, of yeah, then who what's stopping

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Speaker 30: me from being where I want to be?

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Speaker 10: In A yeaes sir, So good, so good.

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Speaker 7: And even though you are one of the youngest in

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Speaker 7: the squad, you are one of the few who have

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Speaker 7: been in the full all white squad. Do you feel

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Speaker 7: a desire or a need to lead in this group?

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Speaker 7: Is that something that comes naturally to you or not

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Speaker 7: quite yet?

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Speaker 30: Additionally, I think I haven't really I've kepted a couple

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Speaker 30: of teams when I was much younger, but I haven't

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Speaker 30: been in and amongst the leadership groups and stuff. I

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Speaker 30: think because I've been so young in the moments i've

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Speaker 30: been in recently. But I think, you know, we're all

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Speaker 30: very good players. But I think the way I play

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Speaker 30: I want I want people if we're struggling or we

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Speaker 30: need to go in the last minutes, I want people

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Speaker 30: to be able to look at me and be like,

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Speaker 30: what can you give us? Can you can you give

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Speaker 30: us something off the bench? Can you give us something starting,

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Speaker 30: We need a goal, something like that, And I think

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Speaker 30: that's the pressure I like to take on. And I

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Speaker 30: think there's loads of boys in the squad, attackers that

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Speaker 30: are all fast and creative, and I think we've all

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Speaker 30: spoken that, you know, it could be on us to

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Speaker 30: change the game whether we win or lose, and we

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Speaker 30: know that as a front force. So hopefully that opportunity does.

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Speaker 7: Come and we can yeah, can't wait to see how

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Speaker 7: it goes. And as you say, it must be nice

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Speaker 7: hanging out with guys your own age. You know, you

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Speaker 7: don't have to sort of feel like you're hanging out

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Speaker 7: with your dad or your slightly older uncle anymore.

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Speaker 3: Right understands the terminology you're using. No boomers around, Nah.

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Speaker 30: I think it's definitely helped shape me being with the

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Speaker 30: older boys. But like I said, it's so refreshing being

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Speaker 30: with a group of very good players who are all

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Speaker 30: around my own age and the same ambitions and pro environments.

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Speaker 30: And I think it's something that almost makes me want

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Speaker 30: to work even harder, knowing that we have each other

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Speaker 30: and that we're all so close to get us almost

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Speaker 30: like a group of brothers from me.

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Speaker 7: Another special day coming up for you all look thanks

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Speaker 7: for joining us. Made all the best against Chilean on

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Speaker 7: towards the second two games in the tournament as well,

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Speaker 7: we'll be watching with very keen interest.

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Speaker 24: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 12: Planning.

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Speaker 22: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: That is New Zealand under twenty striker Luke brook Smith

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Speaker 7: joining us from Chile. When New Zealand have their first

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Speaker 7: game at the Under twenty Men's World Cup tomorrow from midday,

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Speaker 7: New Zealand time up against the hosts the Chileans, with

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Speaker 7: further group games to follow against Egypt and Japan midday

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Speaker 7: tomorrow for the first game for the New Zealand under

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Speaker 7: twenty men's football team. Back at the Kingsland as shortly.

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Speaker 1: Play from the Kingslander in Auckland a head of the

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Speaker 7: Just about us from the Kingslander here on New North

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Speaker 7: Road this afternoon as we built towards a five past

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Speaker 7: five kickoff. But this would ordinarily be the time when

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Speaker 7: we handed over to Tim Beveridge, but with the All

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Speaker 7: Blacks test kicking off at five past five.

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Speaker 3: We thought, you know what, we'll give Tim a.

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Speaker 7: Bit of a break this afternoon and we'll just continue

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Speaker 7: on with our build up. We're going to relocate from

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Speaker 7: the Kingslander a few hundred meters away to the All

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Speaker 7: Blacks Fan Zone on the Eden Park Outer Oval with

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Speaker 7: his live music, food trucks, food and beverage and a

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Speaker 7: few very special guests to have a chat too. So

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Speaker 7: after the news at three we are in the All

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Speaker 7: Blacks fan Zone. Mills Mullyan are going to lead us

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Speaker 7: off after three, Dane Lisa Carrington also on the show,

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Speaker 7: and many more guests to come over the next couple

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Speaker 7: of hours as we build towards kickoff. Andy McDonald, your

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Speaker 7: job has done for the day. I don't think you're

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Speaker 7: staying on after three o'clock. So it's your duty now,

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Speaker 7: just before you do knock it on the head to

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Speaker 7: choose our exit song.

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Speaker 31: What are we going when it feels bit just ingenuous

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Speaker 31: to do a one person exit song when everyone else

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Speaker 31: is staying on. But for all the Australians out there there,

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Speaker 31: it's only one song I can choose. It's of course

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Speaker 31: Daryl breathwaits the horses absolutely love it. We will see

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Speaker 31: you after three from the fan Zone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. For more from Weekends Sport with

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