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Speaker 3: A very very good afternoon to you. So as we've

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Speaker 3: just heard a significant event unfolding in Mount Monganiwi. As

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Speaker 3: we speak the Emergency Management Minister in Police and Fire

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Speaker 3: this morning's landslide at Mount Monganiwi's beachside holiday park at

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Speaker 3: the base of the mountains. So as we heard Mark

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Speaker 3: Mitchell says a rescue operation is underway. He says the

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Speaker 3: stability of the land and making sure it is safe,

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Speaker 3: rescue operation is underway in Welcome Bay. Fire Commander William

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Speaker 3: Pike says there's been a significant slip at the base

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Speaker 3: of the mount Of course, it is a fluid situation

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Speaker 3: in a complex and high risk environment and Urban Search

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Speaker 3: and Rescue are providing specialist assistance. Assistant Commissioner Tim Anderston

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Speaker 3: he says he couldn't confirm the number of people missing,

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Speaker 3: but says it is in the single figures. And Mark

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean so many people will be familiar with

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Speaker 4: this campground and you know, you know Landslips. I just

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Speaker 4: never would have imagined that as being an area that

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Speaker 3: from the New Zealand Herald, Michael Mora. That is all

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Speaker 3: Afternoons us talks b for a good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: At seventeen pass one, A recovery operation is underway after

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Speaker 3: a landslip at a mounta long and new We camp ground.

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Speaker 3: Information is still being collected as to how many people

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Speaker 3: may be trapped in that landslide. It is a significant event.

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Speaker 3: On the line right now is news Talks Thereb's Brian

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Speaker 3: Kelly BK. Very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 5: Good day guys.

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Speaker 6: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? Can you describe what you're seeing at the

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Speaker 6: Well, right now there's a press conference underway with all

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Speaker 6: the emergency personnel Mayor of Tarang and Marty Drysdale, the

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Speaker 6: MP two MPs so the Bay of Plenty here, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 6: Fire and Emergency and basically they're just describing what is

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Speaker 6: is no confirmation of how many are missing. There's all

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Speaker 6: that at the moment. And then probably five hundred meters

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Speaker 6: scene by the mount hot pools. You would have probably

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Speaker 6: you know, anybody knows this area, Malo Mount mong Nui

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Speaker 6: The camping ground has been here for decades and decades

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Speaker 4: So can you describe the mood that you're seeing on

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Speaker 6: It's pretty somber. The Mount Surf Club families are in

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Speaker 6: police are doing a great job. They are here on

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Speaker 6: mass In fact, I don't think I've ever seen so

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Speaker 6: The campground has been virtually emptied out, and as I

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Speaker 6: It's just coming to an ocean beach road that'll be

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Speaker 4: Absolutely they do.

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Speaker 3: Bekay, can you can you describe this slip in a

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Speaker 6: The area at all. It's towards Pilot Bay, which is

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Speaker 6: actually seen it up inside the hotels. It's a big

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Speaker 6: very brown condition, so the slippers probably under me roughly

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Speaker 6: haven't been too close to it, but it's a pretty

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Speaker 4: As you see before, it's a very famous campsite. I've

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Speaker 4: How much surprise is there that this has happened from

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Speaker 6: Well, the amount of rain we had in the past

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Speaker 6: it's the most rain that's been recorded in the history

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Speaker 6: that kick up to Mount Longanui. If you ever climbed

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Speaker 6: up that path, beautiful step, lovely path being wiped out,

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Speaker 6: absolutely wiped out. That happened overnight. But then you know

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Speaker 6: this morning at nine point thirty, nobody basically saw this

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Speaker 6: it down was very very scary. Indeed, as we speak

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Speaker 6: of sister mentioning that very very large digger that has

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Speaker 3: On real b kay. And what is the weather like

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: The rain's gone, although it's gray and overcast at the moment,

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Speaker 5: That's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Are there any other areas of concern around about the

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Speaker 6: Not at the stage or though these things sets you

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Speaker 6: Bet'll be watching with interest. You know what they can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, it is a horrific and scary event for

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Speaker 3: a lot of people and obviously the people of Mount

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Speaker 3: mong and Nuei as well. It's been an incredibly tough

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Really, thank you to you for coming

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Speaker 6: Pleasure mate.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That is News Talks Thereb's Brian Kelly. We are going

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Speaker 3: to take a quick break. When we come back. We're

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Speaker 3: hoping to speak very shortly to Emergency Minister Management Minister

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Speaker 3: to our reporter Michael Morra who is there as well.

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Speaker 3: If you are in Mount mong and Nui or in

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Speaker 3: that area, we'd love to hear from you, Oh, eight

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Speaker 1: Surely your home for the big names in sports. It's

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Speaker 4: Where are we out with the Scott Robinson replacement? The

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Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty bizarre the timing, no sort of plan going

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Speaker 3: It is twenty six pass once. We are covering the

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Speaker 3: It is still a recovery effort and many authorities are

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Speaker 3: information we've got at hand. Joining us now is Michelle Craig.

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Speaker 3: She is the owner of the Beach Hut Cafe, which

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Speaker 10: You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: How far is the beach Hut Cafe from the campground

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Speaker 4: and the slip, Michelle.

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Speaker 10: About twenty to thirty meters.

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Speaker 3: And the mood at the moment, Michelle, after what has

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Speaker 10: Everyone's really devastated. Mooe is a really big part of

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Speaker 4: Will you and the slip happened? Were you at the cafe,

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Speaker 4: because I've heard it was just a horrific, horrific noise.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I was in the cafe and it's quite a noisy,

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Speaker 10: busy little cafe, so I didn't hear anything. But obviously

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Speaker 10: the response from the emergency services was freely immediate, and yes,

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Speaker 4: So did you say, well, you were twenty or thirty

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Speaker 4: Are you were you ever in any danger?

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Speaker 10: No? No, Unfortunately there's more than one slip. Many of

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Speaker 10: This particular slip seems it's enormous. It's really sorry, it's

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Speaker 4: It must be so hard to deal with. Michelle, thank

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Speaker 10: So the police have cordoned off all of the area,

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Speaker 3: It's an incredibly beautiful place Mount Monganui, Michelle, as you well, Noah,

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Speaker 3: I imagine the next few days there will be a

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Speaker 10: I think the key thing about demand is especially where

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Speaker 4: Now, obviously you don't live at the cafe. You've got

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Speaker 10: So I'm a few kilometers down the road, like literally

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Speaker 3: It's increased, incredibly sad for all involved. Michelle, is there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michelle, thank you very much for having a chat

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful place and your beautiful people, so we

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Speaker 10: Thanks so much. And yeah, if I could, if I

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Speaker 4: Back very surely.

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Speaker 1: You've talked said the headlines with.

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Speaker 12: It is possible we could find someone alive, so I

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Speaker 11: to Matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty four to two so we are bringing

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Speaker 3: At the campground, a media stand up has just finished

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Speaker 3: good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah afternoon, Matte.

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Speaker 4: What are the latest? What's the latest down there? Michael?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, look, this is a fairly major rescue operation

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Speaker 9: that is underway currently, Matt, including police, search and rescue staff,

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Speaker 9: A massive chunk of earth has come crashing down into

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Speaker 9: the very latest information is that there are people unaccounted for.

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Speaker 3: How many rescue personnel are on the ground at the moment. Michael,

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Speaker 9: Look, I don't have that figure currently, but there I

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Speaker 5: At the moment.

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Speaker 9: Now, this rescue operation, there is a huge amount of

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Speaker 5: We heard people.

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Speaker 9: There was people on the scene who were at the campsite,

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Speaker 4: And is the you said that the slip was still

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Speaker 9: It's hard to know. Like part of what the search

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Have you had much of a chance to speak to

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Speaker 9: Okay, I've only really just got down here at last

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Speaker 4: Now it's looking like a record amount of rain that

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that there has been you know, a

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Speaker 5: Than two months worth of rain over just.

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Speaker 9: Twelve hours, So that is a huge amount of rain.

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Speaker 9: It comes down at once and of course concurrently at

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Speaker 13: Emergency situation that is unfolding and nearby Papapa at Welcome

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Speaker 3: Michael. Yeah, it is a devastating and as you say,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, pleasure, Matt.

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Speaker 3: It is Michael mora New Zealand Herald reporter coming up.

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Speaker 3: We do hope to speak to Emergency Management Minister Mark Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: It is sixteen to two. Back fory surely.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call, Oh,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth.

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Speaker 3: Talk, there'd be afternoon. It is fourteen to two. We

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Speaker 3: are bringing your extensive coverage of this extreme weather event

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Speaker 3: and the devastating slip at the Mount Long and NWI campground.

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Speaker 3: On the line right now is Emergency Management Minister Mark

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Mark, thank you very much for joining us.

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Speaker 8: Hell, you're welcome. Hey, Tyler, Hey, Matt.

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Speaker 4: Hey, So our emergency service is still treating this as

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Speaker 4: an active rescue or has it shifted to recovery mart.

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Speaker 15: No, it's definitely an active rescue and fled out busy

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Speaker 15: on the ground at the moment, obviously making sure because

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Speaker 15: it's a slip and the ground is still unstable, so

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Speaker 15: just making sure that that they're going to not make

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Speaker 15: the situation worse, and also that it's safe for our

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Speaker 15: first responders and the FENS and US are staff there

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Speaker 15: and they're doing their thing.

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Speaker 4: What specialist resources are on site right now?

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Speaker 15: I s Yeah, We've got USA which is a very

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Speaker 15: highly specialist resort with resource with specialist equipment, search dogs,

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Speaker 15: so they are on site, you know, supported by FEND

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Speaker 15: staff and police.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a good idea on the extent of

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Speaker 3: the damage at the stage, Minister, Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I've seen, I've just been onto the ground, so that

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Speaker 15: the damage is extensive. It is a substantive slip and

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Speaker 15: obviously poses a real challenge, but the team's just working

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Speaker 15: as quickly as they can, as diligent as they can.

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Speaker 15: They realize how high the stakes are. Everyone is just

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Speaker 15: motivated in trying to get as quickly as we can

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Speaker 15: to these people and recovered.

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Speaker 4: So is it a stable situation there right now or

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Speaker 4: is there a possibility of more slips than the area.

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Speaker 15: There's geotech scientists that that are on site as well

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Speaker 15: that are providing advice around that. But because the slip

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Speaker 15: only happened amount of hours ago, that is a concern.

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Speaker 15: So of course you have spotters that are sort of

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Speaker 15: keeping an eye on the rest of that health side

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Speaker 15: to make sure, trying to anticipate if there is a

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Speaker 15: further slide.

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Speaker 8: And more movement.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a heartbreaking and devastating time for families involved. Minister, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I take it they have the support they need right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 15: The community, the surf Club's been outstanding, So we're all

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Speaker 15: trying to just try to wrap as much support, comfort,

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Speaker 15: you know, and reassurance around them as we can. But

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Speaker 15: you can you can just imagine, you know, if it

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Speaker 15: was your wife, or your or your children, how you'd

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Speaker 15: be feeling.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely And of course there are slips across a much

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Speaker 4: wider area in that. What are the other main areas

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Speaker 4: of concern across affected areas.

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 15: For me, Northland, Cora, Mandels, how Reki they have plenty

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Speaker 15: and Tyraf and Gisbon. But look, the response has been outstanding,

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Speaker 15: right from councils through to our first responders, community groups,

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Speaker 15: IWI and HAPU.

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Speaker 8: You know, the.

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Speaker 15: Best response to these events as whole as society and

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Speaker 15: we're just getting better and better at that as a country.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned in the press conference, Minister, some of the

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Speaker 3: stories you were hearing from those rescue personnel, a lot

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Speaker 3: of bravery involved. I mean, clearly that is something as

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Speaker 3: a country we can be incredibly proud of those people

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Speaker 3: who jump into those situations when we need the most.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we can be I mean without a doubt, and

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Speaker 15: it's always humbling. It puts the lump in my throat.

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Speaker 15: When I hear the stories of bravery from our first

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Speaker 15: responders in the and members of the community. I was

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Speaker 15: up in Northland, you know, some of our remote communities

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Speaker 15: up there were hit very hard. Nahti whis stood up

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Speaker 15: and did a great job up there. But I was

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Speaker 15: talking to one gentleman that waded through floodwaters to in

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Speaker 15: the middle of the night as Kevin had floated.

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Speaker 8: Away to save an.

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Speaker 4: Older woman and a child.

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Speaker 8: And I have no doubt in my mind at all.

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Speaker 15: If he hadn't done that, then we would have lost them.

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Speaker 15: So yes, I mean, you know, Key, We's are always

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Speaker 15: there for one another when the chips are down, and

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Speaker 15: and although these weather events are tough and we're now

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Speaker 15: dealing with a real tragedy year, you know, the step

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Speaker 15: forward to one another without a doubt.

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Speaker 4: I'm just just seeing these pictures coming through from a

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Speaker 4: big slip in Papa Moya. Do you know much about

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Speaker 4: that situation in, Minister.

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Speaker 15: Yes, so that's a recovery operation that's setting there at

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Speaker 15: the moment as well. So another very tough situation where

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Speaker 15: a slip has taken out an entire.

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Speaker 3: House and for people around these these affected areas, Minister,

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Speaker 3: what is the messaging at the moment. Is it's still

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Speaker 3: to you know, go to the civil defense websites, listen

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Speaker 3: to the radio. Is there still evacuation orders in place

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Speaker 3: in some areas well?

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Speaker 15: There's still although the red warning now has been lifted

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Speaker 15: because the.

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Speaker 8: Tropical low has now moved offshore.

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Speaker 15: We've got a slight tale that's coming through the South

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Speaker 15: Island and we've picked you any close eye on that.

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Speaker 8: Sort of around Tasman. But yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 15: Just take official advice, keep checking your civil defense websites

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Speaker 15: and council websites.

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Speaker 9: You know, the media.

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Speaker 15: You guys are very good at getting information out there

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Speaker 15: to people. You know, use be pragmatic and use common sense.

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Speaker 15: But you know, we sort of we're starting to come

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Speaker 15: through it. We're still in response phase. We are moving

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Speaker 15: into recovery phase as well.

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Speaker 3: Minister, thank you very much for joining us. Really appreciate

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Speaker 3: the information and on. Yeah, it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: big day for you, so thank you very much. That

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Speaker 3: is emergency management, Minister Mark. Thank you, Mark Mitchell. It

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Speaker 3: is eight minutes to two. We will be back very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Dogs.

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Speaker 3: The Afternoon to you. It is six minutes to two,

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Speaker 3: So just a brief recap on the latest of this

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Speaker 3: devastating slip in Mount Mongan NUIs and no one as

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Speaker 3: of yet has been rescued from that landslide yet. Fire,

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Speaker 3: an emergency spokesperson said, initially people could be heard, but

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Speaker 3: a second slip threatening to come down ment rescuers had

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Speaker 3: to stand down from the scene temporarily. There are dozens

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Speaker 3: on the scene, as we heard from Michael Morrow. You've

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Speaker 3: got USA teams there, You've got geotech experts, police fans,

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Speaker 3: fire operations and they are continuing that operation as we speak.

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Speaker 3: We spoke with Mark Mitchelly sedators. Of course heartbreaking for

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Speaker 3: families involved. They are being supported at the Mount mung

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Speaker 3: and Nui Surf Club. But we will of course bring

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Speaker 3: you the latest on that situation as it continues to unfold.

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Speaker 4: A few texts coming through shout out to our brave

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Speaker 4: responders like Mark Mitchell I tear up when I hear

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Speaker 4: of their heroism. The Sextors said, those who go in

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Speaker 4: first without a second thought are the absolute best of us.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's so true. Yeah, And you know when

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Speaker 4: when you hear about these these tragedies, you know, tragedies

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Speaker 4: are tragedies and that they all horrible, but when people

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Speaker 4: are having fun and they're on holiday, there's something about

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Speaker 4: it that really hits me. Yeah, I'm not sure why.

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Speaker 4: And this takes from Reagan. Hey, guys, just last Saturday

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Speaker 4: there was a half marathon and half iron Man at

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Speaker 4: the mount started at seven am, a massive event. Thousands

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Speaker 4: there just last Saturday. It was beautiful down there, a

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Speaker 4: few I know it, and it was raining, it was buzzing.

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Speaker 4: Thank goodness it wasn't last weekend, as there would have

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Speaker 4: been many, many more people. But it's a real shame,

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Speaker 4: definite iconic holiday spot. He's Reagan. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 4: was down there last weekend and just in this exact

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Speaker 4: area and it was just it's just such a happy, fantastic,

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Speaker 4: beautiful spot. One of the most iconic campgrounds in the

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Speaker 4: entire nation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to have this, it's just such a crueler

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Speaker 3: element to it. After you know, what was a pretty

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Speaker 3: good summer for a lot of people. We are going

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Speaker 3: to have a chant to the team's coremandul Mere, Peter

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Speaker 3: Revel after two o'clock. But we do want to hear

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Speaker 3: from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eightyen lights of

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Speaker 3: the severe storm battering many parts of the island. We

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Speaker 3: want your stories, whether you've experienced road closures, evacuations, flooded homes.

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Speaker 3: We're really keen to hear what you're seeing at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text new Sport and

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Speaker 3: weather is coming up. Stay right here. We will be back.

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Speaker 16: Very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Dogs.

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoons you six pass too. We

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Speaker 3: will continue, of course to bring you the latest out

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Speaker 3: of Mount Moong and a Wee after this disaster of

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Speaker 3: a slip. The recovery operation is underway, dozens of rescue

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Speaker 3: personnel involved. There are challenges with a stability, but we

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Speaker 3: will of course bring you all you need to know.

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Speaker 3: If there's any breaking news, you will hear it first.

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Speaker 4: Success shout out to the council workers who were pulling

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Speaker 4: people out from the landslade at the mount. They very

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Speaker 4: brave and fearless people in our city. Yeah, I mean this,

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Speaker 4: this whole tragedy. You know, they will they will hit

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Speaker 4: you this one. This is I find it's quite affecting.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was just there on Sunday and it's

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Speaker 4: just such a happy, beautiful, iconic New Zealand spot. And

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Speaker 4: as I said before, no tragedy is less because of

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Speaker 4: you know, what people are up to. But there's just

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Speaker 4: something about families on holiday, you know, and and the

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Speaker 4: happiness that's that's associated with that. That's when you think

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Speaker 4: about being hit by tragedy and that you know, the

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Speaker 4: mount the mountain just looks like a big rock to me.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've been there so much. Never never would

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Speaker 4: have crossed my mind that that that was a slip risk. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just looks so solid, it's been there forever, so

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Speaker 4: just not something people could predict, you know, record amounts

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Speaker 4: of rainfall. But you know, there's just no way that

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Speaker 4: you'd be sitting there going I think this could.

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Speaker 3: Happen, desperately said, isn't it desperately said? And as you say,

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Speaker 3: when you think about the mount and look, I actually

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Speaker 3: haven't been to the mount, but when I think about

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Speaker 3: the Mount. I think sun happiness, festivals, good times, and

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Speaker 3: you're right, there is something.

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Speaker 4: Huge amounts of people we just you know, following the

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Speaker 4: Black Clash in the.

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Speaker 3: Air and that's a fantastic events.

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Speaker 4: I was down there, yeah, commentating it. But you know

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Speaker 4: when you go down there, you go out to the

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Speaker 4: beach and you go to those cafes around the are

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Speaker 4: and yeah, good people. It's just probably the most so

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Speaker 4: kind of holiday park in the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels incredibly cruel. We will of course bring

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Speaker 3: you all you need to know as that situation unfolds

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. In the meantime, though, we do want to

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Speaker 3: have a chat about your preparedness and the lights of

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Speaker 3: the past forty eight hours. It does bring to mind

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Speaker 3: what you have in your own house and your batch

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Speaker 3: potentially that could see you out for potentially three four days,

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, as many people will be in

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Speaker 3: those hard hit parts of the North Islands.

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Speaker 4: You've got a made up north that's currently shut off,

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Speaker 4: no power, just cut off. Yeah, can't get in, can't

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Speaker 4: get out, his wife can't get to him, and he

658
00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:14,453
Speaker 4: can't get out.

659
00:35:14,773 --> 00:35:16,773
Speaker 3: It's a terrifying situation, isn't it.

660
00:35:17,093 --> 00:35:20,613
Speaker 4: And he's a very resourceful man, so he'll be fine. Yeah.

661
00:35:20,973 --> 00:35:24,133
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, these things can happen where you

662
00:35:24,253 --> 00:35:28,133
Speaker 4: just cut off. So do you have a plan, Do

663
00:35:28,173 --> 00:35:29,893
Speaker 4: you have a three or four day plan? Do you

664
00:35:29,933 --> 00:35:32,853
Speaker 4: have a kit? Yeah? Do you have a generator? Yeah?

665
00:35:32,893 --> 00:35:34,973
Speaker 3: A generator is huge, and these sort of things. I

666
00:35:35,013 --> 00:35:38,093
Speaker 3: mean starlink as well. If you've got starlink when everything

667
00:35:38,093 --> 00:35:41,213
Speaker 3: else goes down, sometimes that can be operational to make

668
00:35:41,253 --> 00:35:43,773
Speaker 3: contact with people. But you're made up in the north.

669
00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:47,093
Speaker 3: He sounds pretty resilient and resourceful. I imagine he's got

670
00:35:47,173 --> 00:35:49,413
Speaker 3: enough in that house to keep him going, hopefully for

671
00:35:49,453 --> 00:35:50,093
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks.

672
00:35:50,573 --> 00:35:54,093
Speaker 4: I don't know. Last time was up there, there was

673
00:35:54,093 --> 00:35:55,333
Speaker 4: a lot in the fridge, but I ate a lot

674
00:35:55,373 --> 00:35:57,973
Speaker 4: of what was in his fridge did so hopefully I

675
00:35:57,973 --> 00:36:02,533
Speaker 4: didn't drink and eat his last supply. Yeah, I blasted

676
00:36:02,573 --> 00:36:07,413
Speaker 4: back down here. But yeah, I mean, how prepared are

677
00:36:07,413 --> 00:36:10,493
Speaker 4: we for these kind of situations? And a secondary question

678
00:36:11,013 --> 00:36:12,813
Speaker 4: and we might be able to get an expert on

679
00:36:12,853 --> 00:36:15,493
Speaker 4: the line of this, but you have these places like

680
00:36:15,973 --> 00:36:20,293
Speaker 4: you know that looks so solid and you think, well,

681
00:36:20,293 --> 00:36:22,053
Speaker 4: that's never going to happen. We've seen it more and

682
00:36:22,093 --> 00:36:24,653
Speaker 4: more recently. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what the

683
00:36:24,653 --> 00:36:26,493
Speaker 4: stats are if we've got more slips than we used

684
00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:28,732
Speaker 4: to have, but they seem to be happening quite a lot.

685
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,373
Speaker 4: It's quite hard to keep some roads open in Northland.

686
00:36:31,813 --> 00:36:36,933
Speaker 4: But you know, how do you know what is somewhere

687
00:36:36,973 --> 00:36:41,613
Speaker 4: that is you know, a potential for a slip and

688
00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:42,613
Speaker 4: what is not.

689
00:36:42,973 --> 00:36:44,732
Speaker 3: How do you assist that because there have been many

690
00:36:44,733 --> 00:36:48,693
Speaker 3: people listening right now that will have houses and potentially

691
00:36:48,693 --> 00:36:51,213
Speaker 3: a zone which did get assessed and perhaps it got

692
00:36:51,213 --> 00:36:53,133
Speaker 3: assisted as a low risk, but love to know how

693
00:36:53,173 --> 00:36:56,573
Speaker 3: that assessment takes place. We'll say Mum's house in Nelson,

694
00:36:57,013 --> 00:36:59,373
Speaker 3: she sold it a couple of years back, but about

695
00:36:59,413 --> 00:37:01,213
Speaker 3: six months after she sold it, it was on the

696
00:37:01,213 --> 00:37:03,173
Speaker 3: back of a hell in the back of Stoke. People

697
00:37:03,173 --> 00:37:05,333
Speaker 3: in Nelson will know, and it was a one and

698
00:37:05,373 --> 00:37:08,853
Speaker 3: one hundred year rain event. People remember that big event

699
00:37:08,853 --> 00:37:11,053
Speaker 3: to Nelson. Slip came down and took out part of

700
00:37:11,053 --> 00:37:13,733
Speaker 3: the house and at no point, she would say this

701
00:37:13,813 --> 00:37:16,652
Speaker 3: quite clearly, at no point was that assessed as a

702
00:37:16,693 --> 00:37:19,413
Speaker 3: major risk. Effectively, when it was a new build, they

703
00:37:19,453 --> 00:37:21,652
Speaker 3: looked at that part of the hill and said it's

704
00:37:21,693 --> 00:37:23,253
Speaker 3: not coming down it's not coming down.

705
00:37:23,373 --> 00:37:23,573
Speaker 6: Yeah.

706
00:37:23,613 --> 00:37:25,893
Speaker 4: I had to mate, you know, in those big rains

707
00:37:25,973 --> 00:37:30,053
Speaker 4: in Auckland a couple of years ago. And he had

708
00:37:30,573 --> 00:37:32,653
Speaker 4: just bought a beautiful property out on the north shore

709
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:36,413
Speaker 4: with a lovely lawn that went out to a beautiful view.

710
00:37:37,293 --> 00:37:40,013
Speaker 4: Huge noise in the middle of the night went out front,

711
00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:45,053
Speaker 4: lawn gone. His shed was in the ocean. I could say,

712
00:37:45,253 --> 00:37:48,732
Speaker 4: has shed floating off to sea like a sailing ship.

713
00:37:48,813 --> 00:37:52,533
Speaker 4: She is think you were dreaming as Lord myle banged

714
00:37:52,533 --> 00:37:54,933
Speaker 4: out the door of it and he's like, where's my lawn,

715
00:37:55,533 --> 00:37:58,893
Speaker 4: that's my shed? And he didn't have any idea at

716
00:37:58,933 --> 00:38:02,652
Speaker 4: all that that he was on a that there was

717
00:38:02,733 --> 00:38:05,493
Speaker 4: any potential for a slip head alone losing most of

718
00:38:05,493 --> 00:38:08,252
Speaker 4: his front yard. And then you're in that situation where

719
00:38:09,013 --> 00:38:11,652
Speaker 4: you've got this property, who wants to buy it? Yeah?

720
00:38:11,773 --> 00:38:14,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

721
00:38:14,613 --> 00:38:16,213
Speaker 3: number to call. So a couple of things. One, do

722
00:38:16,293 --> 00:38:18,773
Speaker 3: you think you are well prepared if you.

723
00:38:18,693 --> 00:38:20,973
Speaker 4: Want the waters with my question? Haven't I? No?

724
00:38:20,973 --> 00:38:21,172
Speaker 14: No?

725
00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:23,413
Speaker 4: I think this is what I'll do is we'll try

726
00:38:23,453 --> 00:38:25,652
Speaker 4: and track down someone who's an expert on what would

727
00:38:25,653 --> 00:38:26,453
Speaker 4: you call it, geotech?

728
00:38:26,493 --> 00:38:27,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, gootech expert.

729
00:38:27,693 --> 00:38:30,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll try and track down a geotech expert. Nest

730
00:38:30,093 --> 00:38:32,213
Speaker 4: this one listening one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

731
00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:35,253
Speaker 4: someone knows about this, then then ringing. But yeah, the

732
00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:37,733
Speaker 4: question on what should you have prepared? Yeah?

733
00:38:37,733 --> 00:38:39,453
Speaker 3: How prepared do you think you are? What have you

734
00:38:39,453 --> 00:38:41,732
Speaker 3: got in your household? Do you think you could sit

735
00:38:41,813 --> 00:38:43,253
Speaker 3: it out for a couple of weeks if you are

736
00:38:43,653 --> 00:38:45,213
Speaker 3: cut off? What have you got at the batch? What

737
00:38:45,253 --> 00:38:47,053
Speaker 3: have you got at your home? Oh, eight hundred eighty

738
00:38:47,093 --> 00:38:49,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two ninety

739
00:38:48,973 --> 00:38:50,173
Speaker 3: two is the text?

740
00:38:51,173 --> 00:38:53,853
Speaker 4: Good news. Goose is texted in and I'm good for

741
00:38:53,853 --> 00:38:57,933
Speaker 4: probably three months, comfortable with unlimited power, shower, toilet, fridge, freezer,

742
00:38:58,853 --> 00:39:01,933
Speaker 4: just out of my camping truck with no issue in

743
00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:05,213
Speaker 4: the slightest Goose, It's going to be okay, Yeah, spele

744
00:39:05,293 --> 00:39:08,253
Speaker 4: ever under Goose's house. In these tragic times, we need

745
00:39:08,453 --> 00:39:10,573
Speaker 4: news stories, and Goose is good for three months.

746
00:39:10,773 --> 00:39:13,933
Speaker 3: Absolutely thirteen past two, beg for surely.

747
00:39:15,133 --> 00:39:19,493
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

748
00:39:19,493 --> 00:39:22,253
Speaker 1: call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

749
00:39:22,173 --> 00:39:26,173
Speaker 3: ZEDB News Talk ZB it is sixteen past too, So

750
00:39:26,213 --> 00:39:30,293
Speaker 3: we've asked the question, do you think you could survive

751
00:39:30,373 --> 00:39:32,613
Speaker 3: by yourself for potentially a couple of weeks at a

752
00:39:32,653 --> 00:39:35,373
Speaker 3: time if and you know, as we're seen in the

753
00:39:35,453 --> 00:39:37,373
Speaker 3: last forty eight hours, something like that will step into

754
00:39:37,413 --> 00:39:37,813
Speaker 3: your place.

755
00:39:38,533 --> 00:39:38,692
Speaker 17: Now.

756
00:39:38,693 --> 00:39:40,053
Speaker 4: I'm just going to go back to something a story

757
00:39:40,093 --> 00:39:42,373
Speaker 4: I told before about a friend who woke up in

758
00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:44,373
Speaker 4: the morning a couple of years ago and his yard

759
00:39:44,373 --> 00:39:46,813
Speaker 4: had disappeared into the ocean on the north shore, and

760
00:39:46,853 --> 00:39:49,893
Speaker 4: he saw his shed floating away like a sailing shipp

761
00:39:49,933 --> 00:39:53,453
Speaker 4: and the door open and his electric law moyer floated out. Surreal.

762
00:39:54,733 --> 00:39:56,453
Speaker 4: I'm glad I didn't say this to him at the time,

763
00:39:56,493 --> 00:39:59,493
Speaker 4: but this person's just texted then quite an obvious and

764
00:39:59,533 --> 00:40:01,973
Speaker 4: quite good joe. At least he won't need his lord

765
00:40:02,013 --> 00:40:04,813
Speaker 4: mower anymore. I wonder if he thought that as he

766
00:40:04,853 --> 00:40:06,853
Speaker 4: saw the shed floating away and the lord may will

767
00:40:06,853 --> 00:40:10,013
Speaker 4: come out and he go look down his whole Lorna's disappeared,

768
00:40:10,053 --> 00:40:14,533
Speaker 4: he thought, well, I didn't need anymore anyway. That's great.

769
00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:16,732
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that text. Oh one hundred

770
00:40:16,773 --> 00:40:19,652
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. How prepared do you think you are?

771
00:40:19,933 --> 00:40:25,053
Speaker 3: If you are by extreme weather. Really can to have

772
00:40:25,053 --> 00:40:27,053
Speaker 3: a chat with you. But in the meantime, let's have

773
00:40:27,173 --> 00:40:28,173
Speaker 3: a chat too.

774
00:40:28,853 --> 00:40:30,093
Speaker 4: Actually we'll go to en Ian.

775
00:40:30,133 --> 00:40:30,733
Speaker 3: How are you.

776
00:40:32,093 --> 00:40:36,573
Speaker 18: Good afternoon, guys. I'm just listening and with interest about

777
00:40:37,053 --> 00:40:38,693
Speaker 18: you know how to survive.

778
00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:41,172
Speaker 6: If you don't.

779
00:40:42,573 --> 00:40:45,373
Speaker 18: Or should I say, if you're not prepared, well, I'll

780
00:40:45,413 --> 00:40:50,373
Speaker 18: tell you what. After Gabriel I'm in Napier and that

781
00:40:50,533 --> 00:40:53,213
Speaker 18: hit us pretty hard. I lost a lot of things.

782
00:40:53,253 --> 00:40:59,813
Speaker 18: But anyway, that's by the boy. Now I can survive

783
00:40:59,893 --> 00:41:04,413
Speaker 18: for at least two or three weeks right on the

784
00:41:04,493 --> 00:41:06,693
Speaker 18: food and all that sort of thing I've got, plus

785
00:41:06,693 --> 00:41:09,573
Speaker 18: the guest things and all its sort of thing, and

786
00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:13,933
Speaker 18: also neighbors if they need be to survive, and a

787
00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:16,493
Speaker 18: lot of them don't have it, which surprises me.

788
00:41:17,773 --> 00:41:21,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so obviously after Gabrielle that cemented for you

789
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:26,133
Speaker 3: the need to be prepared. Do you think and I'll

790
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:29,013
Speaker 3: say this then as someone who was down in christ Jutch,

791
00:41:29,093 --> 00:41:31,212
Speaker 3: I wasn't there for the earthquakes, but we all saw

792
00:41:31,493 --> 00:41:34,493
Speaker 3: the recovery after that, and it was pretty well ingrained

793
00:41:34,893 --> 00:41:37,933
Speaker 3: that you needed to have preparations. You know, after something

794
00:41:37,973 --> 00:41:39,933
Speaker 3: like that, when you live through that, you understand that

795
00:41:39,973 --> 00:41:43,373
Speaker 3: pretty well, But unfortunately, I think it starts to fall off.

796
00:41:43,453 --> 00:41:46,173
Speaker 3: You know, the longer you are from a situation that

797
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:48,893
Speaker 3: you've faced, then you start to forget. Actually, I do

798
00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:52,533
Speaker 3: need three days worth of food and water and communication

799
00:41:52,613 --> 00:41:54,053
Speaker 3: and all the rest of it. Do you think there's

800
00:41:54,413 --> 00:41:55,013
Speaker 3: some truth to that?

801
00:41:56,493 --> 00:42:02,253
Speaker 18: Absolutely? And what christ Is went through through the Quation

802
00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:04,093
Speaker 18: and all that sort of thing, and not only Christ,

803
00:42:04,213 --> 00:42:09,213
Speaker 18: it's quite core all that sort of thing. Excuse me,

804
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:11,853
Speaker 18: and don't forget on in the North Orland and look

805
00:42:11,893 --> 00:42:15,253
Speaker 18: what's happening up on the East coast. It's just devastating.

806
00:42:16,853 --> 00:42:18,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all right to God.

807
00:42:19,133 --> 00:42:21,853
Speaker 18: I really do. And I'm not a you know, a

808
00:42:21,853 --> 00:42:26,173
Speaker 18: god through in person, but I hope they find those people.

809
00:42:26,333 --> 00:42:30,013
Speaker 18: I really really do. What's gone up there is unbelievable.

810
00:42:30,213 --> 00:42:34,293
Speaker 18: I mean, what we went through down here in Gisbon

811
00:42:34,373 --> 00:42:40,533
Speaker 18: and Hawk's Bay during Gabriel was devastating on its own.

812
00:42:40,653 --> 00:42:43,693
Speaker 18: And it's only just stop running here and it's twenty

813
00:42:43,773 --> 00:42:46,653
Speaker 18: nine bloody degrees. Sorry for swearing, that's.

814
00:42:46,493 --> 00:42:49,333
Speaker 4: Right, bloody bloody the bloody's fine.

815
00:42:49,493 --> 00:42:51,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sums up at the situation for a lot

816
00:42:51,653 --> 00:42:52,413
Speaker 3: of people at the moment.

817
00:42:52,453 --> 00:42:52,813
Speaker 4: Mate.

818
00:42:53,573 --> 00:42:56,333
Speaker 18: Oh well, I mean I hope those people are in

819
00:42:56,333 --> 00:43:00,733
Speaker 18: the north, you know, I really hope for them that

820
00:43:00,853 --> 00:43:03,973
Speaker 18: they come together again.

821
00:43:04,253 --> 00:43:06,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, good on Ian, thank you so much for your call.

822
00:43:06,893 --> 00:43:09,573
Speaker 4: I think we could do three years tank water generator,

823
00:43:09,613 --> 00:43:14,093
Speaker 4: five times stairs, own firewood, would have to get the

824
00:43:14,173 --> 00:43:17,893
Speaker 4: veggarden going better. Maintenance engineer can fix anything regards.

825
00:43:17,973 --> 00:43:21,692
Speaker 3: Nice steers as in kettle. Oh right, right right, yeah,

826
00:43:21,733 --> 00:43:23,453
Speaker 3: I thought like climbing stairs are they you know, are

827
00:43:23,453 --> 00:43:24,413
Speaker 3: they important for survival?

828
00:43:24,493 --> 00:43:26,533
Speaker 4: So I'll tell you what. It's a major event if

829
00:43:26,573 --> 00:43:28,013
Speaker 4: you're if.

830
00:43:28,933 --> 00:43:32,213
Speaker 3: You're locked in for three years ill, Yeah, good on you.

831
00:43:32,453 --> 00:43:34,093
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

832
00:43:34,093 --> 00:43:35,573
Speaker 3: to call, love to hear from you. And coming up

833
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,173
Speaker 3: after the break, we are going to speak with Thames

834
00:43:38,213 --> 00:43:43,413
Speaker 3: Coromandel Mere Peter Ravel. They've obviously had some significant damage

835
00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:46,493
Speaker 3: and rain and extreme weather over the past forty eight hours,

836
00:43:46,493 --> 00:43:49,573
Speaker 3: so we have a speak a chat to teams Corimandal Meret.

837
00:43:49,573 --> 00:43:50,853
Speaker 3: Next it's twenty past two.

838
00:43:54,573 --> 00:43:57,933
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

839
00:43:58,013 --> 00:43:59,653
Speaker 1: eighty eighty on us talks.

840
00:44:00,133 --> 00:44:03,493
Speaker 3: It is twenty two pass too, So the Thames Corimandel

841
00:44:03,573 --> 00:44:08,573
Speaker 3: area has obviously suffered significant damage with the significant rain,

842
00:44:08,653 --> 00:44:11,293
Speaker 3: extreme weather and flooding it's been hit with over the

843
00:44:11,333 --> 00:44:14,013
Speaker 3: past forty eight hours. To discuss further, we're joined by

844
00:44:14,093 --> 00:44:18,413
Speaker 3: Thames Corimandel mayor Peter Ravale get A, Peterkday, Good to

845
00:44:18,453 --> 00:44:18,973
Speaker 3: be with you.

846
00:44:19,293 --> 00:44:22,253
Speaker 4: What's the situation on the ground in your area.

847
00:44:22,093 --> 00:44:26,413
Speaker 19: Mere, Well, look, the really good news is the heavy

848
00:44:26,493 --> 00:44:28,933
Speaker 19: rain has stopped and infected. I look out the office

849
00:44:28,933 --> 00:44:31,493
Speaker 19: window here at the moment the sun shining, which is

850
00:44:31,773 --> 00:44:35,973
Speaker 19: terrific news. That means floodwaters have been able to subside

851
00:44:36,013 --> 00:44:40,212
Speaker 19: to a very large extent. Certainly not entirely. You'll drive

852
00:44:40,213 --> 00:44:43,813
Speaker 19: around the district and you'll still see very wet paddocks

853
00:44:43,813 --> 00:44:47,973
Speaker 19: and evidence of flooding. But it has meant that a

854
00:44:48,013 --> 00:44:49,893
Speaker 19: lot of our road closures and I think we had

855
00:44:49,933 --> 00:44:53,933
Speaker 19: about twenty two road closures over the period of the

856
00:44:54,013 --> 00:44:58,773
Speaker 19: last twenty four hours. Most of those were flood related

857
00:44:58,933 --> 00:45:03,133
Speaker 19: and so that's made a big difference to the accessibility

858
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:06,093
Speaker 19: around the district, which is good, the really good news.

859
00:45:06,213 --> 00:45:08,212
Speaker 4: That is great news. Are you aware of the ext

860
00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:11,133
Speaker 4: into the damage across your region at this.

861
00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:17,533
Speaker 19: Point, yes, well, not in the totality, but I can

862
00:45:17,573 --> 00:45:20,093
Speaker 19: tell you that there are still a number of roads

863
00:45:20,093 --> 00:45:24,493
Speaker 19: that have closed because of slips. Up the north, We've

864
00:45:24,533 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 19: had quite a significant slip slip just up near Curtinu.

865
00:45:29,093 --> 00:45:32,093
Speaker 19: There were slips on State Highway twenty five A, but

866
00:45:32,213 --> 00:45:36,533
Speaker 19: they have now been cleared, so that's good. Our highway

867
00:45:36,613 --> 00:45:41,973
Speaker 19: going from Thames across the other side is now open again. Yeah,

868
00:45:42,053 --> 00:45:46,373
Speaker 19: so it's good there. But there have been you know,

869
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:51,213
Speaker 19: the slips that we have had, two or three of

870
00:45:51,253 --> 00:45:55,013
Speaker 19: them are very large. And what we learned from Gabriel,

871
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:58,613
Speaker 19: you know, three years ago, was you know, in ten

872
00:45:58,733 --> 00:46:00,973
Speaker 19: days time, if you get it, if we get sort

873
00:46:00,973 --> 00:46:03,693
Speaker 19: of a bit of a downpour, the ground is so

874
00:46:03,693 --> 00:46:07,293
Speaker 19: sodden and saturated that it could easily slip again. So

875
00:46:08,133 --> 00:46:10,493
Speaker 19: you know, it's something that we will be monitoring for

876
00:46:10,573 --> 00:46:12,373
Speaker 19: quite a few months.

877
00:46:13,533 --> 00:46:16,453
Speaker 3: The immediate forecast, Peter, how is that looking. Is it

878
00:46:16,573 --> 00:46:19,933
Speaker 3: looking much sunnier than was expected?

879
00:46:20,853 --> 00:46:23,413
Speaker 19: Well, it's certainly a forecast that doesn't have heavy rain,

880
00:46:23,493 --> 00:46:27,652
Speaker 19: but there's a forecast that has got rain. So you know,

881
00:46:27,733 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 19: we're anticipating that we will need to keep a watch,

882
00:46:31,213 --> 00:46:34,133
Speaker 19: especially on some of those vulnerable areas where you know,

883
00:46:34,293 --> 00:46:38,893
Speaker 19: sometimes you know the slips will will will come down.

884
00:46:38,973 --> 00:46:41,573
Speaker 19: But we pretty much know where those areas are and

885
00:46:41,613 --> 00:46:47,213
Speaker 19: where we can be alert to any slips that might

886
00:46:47,373 --> 00:46:48,172
Speaker 19: come through there.

887
00:46:48,853 --> 00:46:52,173
Speaker 4: Speaking of weather forecast, so did this take you by surprise?

888
00:46:52,253 --> 00:46:54,373
Speaker 4: Were you were you aware that the rain was going

889
00:46:54,413 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 4: to be this intense?

890
00:46:57,253 --> 00:47:00,652
Speaker 19: Look, we were said, we weren't taking by surprise that

891
00:47:00,693 --> 00:47:04,933
Speaker 19: we were going to have an event, and what the

892
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:08,933
Speaker 19: nature of that event. We were obviously very dependent on

893
00:47:08,973 --> 00:47:13,693
Speaker 19: the information coming from Met Service, who began out giving

894
00:47:13,773 --> 00:47:18,693
Speaker 19: us a orange rain warning which then got upgraded to

895
00:47:18,813 --> 00:47:23,733
Speaker 19: a red rain warning, and at that point that happened

896
00:47:23,773 --> 00:47:27,212
Speaker 19: on Wednesday morning. At that point, we had a look

897
00:47:27,253 --> 00:47:31,253
Speaker 19: at how much rain had fallen overnight Tuesday night, and

898
00:47:31,333 --> 00:47:34,093
Speaker 19: it was significant. It was a lot of rain that

899
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:38,533
Speaker 19: fell on the peninsula on Tuesday night, so that saturated everything.

900
00:47:38,933 --> 00:47:42,093
Speaker 19: And then met Server said, well, you've got a red

901
00:47:42,253 --> 00:47:45,333
Speaker 19: rain warning here because the worst is still to come.

902
00:47:45,453 --> 00:47:47,493
Speaker 19: And they said the worst was going to be between

903
00:47:47,493 --> 00:47:51,213
Speaker 19: about six last night and ten o'clock and they weren't wrong.

904
00:47:52,333 --> 00:47:54,453
Speaker 19: So we had it, but we were prepared for it.

905
00:47:54,573 --> 00:47:58,493
Speaker 19: So you know, we were at being able to respond

906
00:47:59,013 --> 00:48:04,573
Speaker 19: pretty efficiently to particularly situations where people might be in danger.

907
00:48:05,413 --> 00:48:07,853
Speaker 19: But today, now that we've got daylight. We've been able

908
00:48:07,893 --> 00:48:11,173
Speaker 19: to respond to the you know, the slips and everything

909
00:48:11,253 --> 00:48:15,293
Speaker 19: they need clearing pretty efficiently. And that's that's good news.

910
00:48:15,413 --> 00:48:16,293
Speaker 4: That is good news.

911
00:48:16,413 --> 00:48:19,493
Speaker 3: Anything that you want the people in the area or

912
00:48:19,533 --> 00:48:22,773
Speaker 3: potentially who are planning to come into the area to

913
00:48:22,813 --> 00:48:23,653
Speaker 3: know what the stage.

914
00:48:23,373 --> 00:48:29,773
Speaker 19: Peter, Yes, look, so what we what's really important for

915
00:48:29,853 --> 00:48:32,533
Speaker 19: us right at this point in time is for our

916
00:48:32,653 --> 00:48:35,333
Speaker 19: contractors to be able to get in there and do

917
00:48:35,373 --> 00:48:38,733
Speaker 19: the jobs they need to do. They have cleared a

918
00:48:38,773 --> 00:48:41,413
Speaker 19: good number of slips already and they will continue to

919
00:48:41,453 --> 00:48:45,212
Speaker 19: do that. So for the people who are already here,

920
00:48:45,293 --> 00:48:48,293
Speaker 19: we would ask, you know, just if you don't have

921
00:48:48,413 --> 00:48:53,333
Speaker 19: to travel, please don't travel, just so the contractors, you know,

922
00:48:53,373 --> 00:48:55,453
Speaker 19: are not having to do traffic management and all that

923
00:48:55,493 --> 00:48:57,293
Speaker 19: and they can just get on with their job. And

924
00:48:58,333 --> 00:49:00,692
Speaker 19: that's working well. You know, they're working very quickly on

925
00:49:00,733 --> 00:49:03,093
Speaker 19: that for those that are coming we're thinking of coming

926
00:49:03,133 --> 00:49:07,772
Speaker 19: for the weekend. An open road is sometimes an open road,

927
00:49:07,813 --> 00:49:12,293
Speaker 19: but on the twenty k per hour because although the

928
00:49:12,373 --> 00:49:15,013
Speaker 19: road has actually opened, the road surface might have been

929
00:49:15,093 --> 00:49:19,253
Speaker 19: damaged to end what have you. On the west side

930
00:49:19,293 --> 00:49:21,773
Speaker 19: of our peninsula, you know, from Thames all the way

931
00:49:21,813 --> 00:49:24,573
Speaker 19: up to Crimandal. Things at the moment look pretty good,

932
00:49:25,093 --> 00:49:28,333
Speaker 19: and you know that's that's a beautiful part of the

933
00:49:28,333 --> 00:49:31,573
Speaker 19: country to be in, so you know there would be

934
00:49:31,653 --> 00:49:34,413
Speaker 19: actually no issues I think for people coming on this side.

935
00:49:34,813 --> 00:49:39,413
Speaker 19: It's fanning to get to Fitty. Then at the at

936
00:49:39,413 --> 00:49:44,173
Speaker 19: the moment, the excesses from the west through the Tapo

937
00:49:44,253 --> 00:49:45,933
Speaker 19: Caravan road to Fitty.

938
00:49:47,013 --> 00:49:51,373
Speaker 4: We're talking to teams Cormandal, Miya, Peter Revel. What does

939
00:49:51,413 --> 00:49:54,173
Speaker 4: a mere's day look like when you wake up to

940
00:49:54,573 --> 00:49:56,613
Speaker 4: a emergency like that?

941
00:49:58,293 --> 00:50:01,613
Speaker 19: Well, I just don't know. Look, I got in here

942
00:50:01,693 --> 00:50:04,573
Speaker 19: the quarter to six this morning and there was a

943
00:50:04,613 --> 00:50:07,413
Speaker 19: scheduled interview at five past seven with one of the

944
00:50:07,733 --> 00:50:12,893
Speaker 19: radio stays, and there I have been involved in quite

945
00:50:12,893 --> 00:50:16,533
Speaker 19: a few of those. We've also had a ministerial visit

946
00:50:16,613 --> 00:50:20,933
Speaker 19: from the Minister of sort of Defense, Mark Mitchell has

947
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:22,653
Speaker 19: been here and he's spent an hour and a half

948
00:50:22,773 --> 00:50:27,013
Speaker 19: getting a good handle on the issues that we're confronting.

949
00:50:27,773 --> 00:50:30,493
Speaker 19: He's now down to Mountain Millinui, where obviously there are

950
00:50:30,893 --> 00:50:35,973
Speaker 19: significant challenges down there and beyond, and know we're always

951
00:50:36,013 --> 00:50:41,013
Speaker 19: mindful of that. So thinking about that, we were working

952
00:50:41,013 --> 00:50:44,533
Speaker 19: pretty hard trying to keep the councilors and the community

953
00:50:44,573 --> 00:50:48,053
Speaker 19: boards are informed about what's going on, so that as

954
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:54,333
Speaker 19: they end up fielding concerns or issues from the people

955
00:50:54,333 --> 00:50:58,013
Speaker 19: in their district or their area, that they are equipped

956
00:50:58,013 --> 00:51:02,373
Speaker 19: with sort of useful information to be able to say there.

957
00:51:02,453 --> 00:51:07,053
Speaker 19: But certainly so far today I would be say in

958
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:11,172
Speaker 19: the I've done one eyes and that I would call

959
00:51:11,293 --> 00:51:16,293
Speaker 19: business as usual. Everything else has been related to progressing

960
00:51:16,373 --> 00:51:21,813
Speaker 19: things and ensuring that the council staff have got everything

961
00:51:21,933 --> 00:51:24,413
Speaker 19: that is the resource that they need to do their job.

962
00:51:24,693 --> 00:51:28,213
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Peter, thank you very much for joining us and

963
00:51:28,253 --> 00:51:30,973
Speaker 3: giving us that information and our listeners that information. All

964
00:51:30,973 --> 00:51:33,933
Speaker 3: the very best for the cleanup in the next.

965
00:51:33,693 --> 00:51:34,293
Speaker 4: Couple of weeks.

966
00:51:34,293 --> 00:51:37,293
Speaker 3: There's a big job to do obviously, but really appreciate

967
00:51:37,333 --> 00:51:37,692
Speaker 3: your time.

968
00:51:38,373 --> 00:51:39,973
Speaker 19: Thanks very much. Good to be with you.

969
00:51:40,093 --> 00:51:40,973
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

970
00:51:41,173 --> 00:51:47,213
Speaker 3: That is Peter Revel the Thames Coromandel Meyr again another

971
00:51:47,933 --> 00:51:51,172
Speaker 3: huge job in a place like the Corimandelin Thames. But

972
00:51:51,893 --> 00:51:54,373
Speaker 3: as Peter said, it's been all go. There's only been

973
00:51:54,413 --> 00:52:00,293
Speaker 3: one normal business of ordinary businesses had time to do well.

974
00:52:00,333 --> 00:52:04,133
Speaker 4: It'll be quite the day for Mahe Drysdale.

975
00:52:04,573 --> 00:52:08,573
Speaker 3: Total evolutely yeah, yeah, all right, we've got the headlines up,

976
00:52:08,613 --> 00:52:10,253
Speaker 3: but we are taking more of your calls. Oh eight

977
00:52:10,253 --> 00:52:13,613
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty. We have asked the question,

978
00:52:13,773 --> 00:52:16,053
Speaker 3: how prepared you think you are in the event of

979
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,973
Speaker 3: what we've seen over the past forty eight hours. Really,

980
00:52:19,013 --> 00:52:20,693
Speaker 3: Keen Deaver chat with you nine two nine tools the

981
00:52:20,693 --> 00:52:23,413
Speaker 3: text number bang on half past two.

982
00:52:24,373 --> 00:52:28,093
Speaker 11: You've talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

983
00:52:28,173 --> 00:52:31,613
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. Fears in mart Manganui

984
00:52:31,693 --> 00:52:35,493
Speaker 11: as rescuers scar the unstable site of a landslide at

985
00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:40,373
Speaker 11: Beachside holiday park for missing people. Those unaccounted for number

986
00:52:40,533 --> 00:52:44,933
Speaker 11: single figures and include young people. Fire and Emergency has

987
00:52:44,973 --> 00:52:49,213
Speaker 11: heard no signs of life since this morning after tents, cars,

988
00:52:49,213 --> 00:52:53,053
Speaker 11: caravans and a toilet block were swamped. Two people also

989
00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:56,413
Speaker 11: aren't accounted for after a slip and todong is Welcome

990
00:52:56,533 --> 00:52:59,613
Speaker 11: Bay and the hunts resumed for a man swept away

991
00:52:59,613 --> 00:53:03,573
Speaker 11: in his carnir walkworth yesterday. State Highway thirty five is

992
00:53:03,613 --> 00:53:06,413
Speaker 11: closed north of Toulegod Bay, as well as Highway to

993
00:53:06,573 --> 00:53:10,453
Speaker 11: north of Todonga and sections of Cora Mandel's Highway twenty five.

994
00:53:11,133 --> 00:53:13,453
Speaker 11: State Highway five is blocked in the Bay of Plenty

995
00:53:13,493 --> 00:53:17,533
Speaker 11: near Waiponga after gravel a gravel truck has rolled and

996
00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:21,773
Speaker 11: powers out to thousands of homes. People are being advised

997
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:25,493
Speaker 11: to use up unused in New Zealand COVID flight credits.

998
00:53:25,773 --> 00:53:28,853
Speaker 11: They'll expire if not booked in the next ten days.

999
00:53:29,853 --> 00:53:33,853
Speaker 11: New Zealand Rugby's unicorn hump for a CEO as shortlist

1000
00:53:34,013 --> 00:53:37,053
Speaker 11: comes up short You can see greg Or Paul's full

1001
00:53:37,053 --> 00:53:41,773
Speaker 11: column at Enzied Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1002
00:53:41,373 --> 00:53:44,493
Speaker 3: Thank you very Muchrey Lean. Now just to heads up,

1003
00:53:44,533 --> 00:53:47,213
Speaker 3: if you have been listening in Totong and Mount mongon

1004
00:53:47,293 --> 00:53:50,453
Speaker 3: Nui and you are listening to our ninety nine point

1005
00:53:50,573 --> 00:53:53,733
Speaker 3: zero frequency, we are now back on our ninety point

1006
00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:59,293
Speaker 3: two FM frequency and also our ten zero eight am frequency.

1007
00:53:59,293 --> 00:54:01,693
Speaker 3: So just repeating that, if you are listening on the

1008
00:54:01,893 --> 00:54:05,613
Speaker 3: ninety nine point zero frequency FM and Totrong and Mount Mongonui,

1009
00:54:05,653 --> 00:54:09,013
Speaker 3: we're now back on ninety point two FM and ten

1010
00:54:09,533 --> 00:54:12,733
Speaker 3: zero eight am. So that's just a wee heads up

1011
00:54:12,813 --> 00:54:14,613
Speaker 3: if you're listening in that area and we are keen

1012
00:54:14,653 --> 00:54:16,333
Speaker 3: to hear from you. If you are in that area,

1013
00:54:16,373 --> 00:54:18,652
Speaker 3: what is a situation on the ground where you are.

1014
00:54:18,973 --> 00:54:21,373
Speaker 4: So if you're listening on ninety nine, you want to

1015
00:54:21,373 --> 00:54:23,773
Speaker 4: get off and give back to ninety point two. Correct

1016
00:54:24,333 --> 00:54:26,933
Speaker 4: ninety nine, we'll shut down it will do it will

1017
00:54:26,933 --> 00:54:28,013
Speaker 4: do you go flat?

1018
00:54:28,533 --> 00:54:30,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what we heads up if you're listening

1019
00:54:30,293 --> 00:54:33,173
Speaker 3: in that beautiful part of the country and obviously a

1020
00:54:33,253 --> 00:54:35,053
Speaker 3: very devastated part of the country at the moment. But

1021
00:54:35,053 --> 00:54:37,732
Speaker 3: we have asked the question, do you think you are

1022
00:54:37,773 --> 00:54:41,333
Speaker 3: prepared in the event of extreme weather the likes that

1023
00:54:41,373 --> 00:54:43,493
Speaker 3: we've witnessed over the past forty eight hours.

1024
00:54:43,773 --> 00:54:46,413
Speaker 4: Hey, I have solar powered fridge, freezer and portable cook

1025
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:48,213
Speaker 4: it in my horse trailer. I have some degree of

1026
00:54:48,253 --> 00:54:52,613
Speaker 4: comfort when I lose power due to trees down chairs.

1027
00:54:53,053 --> 00:54:57,093
Speaker 4: Rural living ay from Carrie A. Yeah, the farmers.

1028
00:54:57,133 --> 00:54:59,893
Speaker 3: I think most farmers are pretty well prepared for to

1029
00:55:00,173 --> 00:55:03,493
Speaker 3: sit it out for some time, own nothing.

1030
00:55:03,213 --> 00:55:05,133
Speaker 4: Be happy to get ready to move on with your

1031
00:55:05,133 --> 00:55:06,893
Speaker 4: life anytime. Nothing.

1032
00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:11,252
Speaker 3: Okay, right, that's a bold strategy to have nothing and

1033
00:55:11,293 --> 00:55:11,693
Speaker 3: just move on.

1034
00:55:11,813 --> 00:55:14,692
Speaker 4: But hang on, Mit, that's that doesn't it doesn't help

1035
00:55:14,773 --> 00:55:16,453
Speaker 4: us with the point we're trying to make you. It's

1036
00:55:16,493 --> 00:55:19,853
Speaker 4: when you can't move, it's when you become trapped for

1037
00:55:20,333 --> 00:55:22,613
Speaker 4: whatever reason. It's talking about a friend of mine who's

1038
00:55:22,613 --> 00:55:25,373
Speaker 4: currently can't get out, can't get in, got no power,

1039
00:55:26,613 --> 00:55:28,893
Speaker 4: his wife can't get any strapped. Yeah, so at that

1040
00:55:28,893 --> 00:55:30,453
Speaker 4: point you've got to have enough food. Exactly.

1041
00:55:30,453 --> 00:55:32,293
Speaker 3: He can't get out, he can't move, He's got to

1042
00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:32,813
Speaker 3: have something.

1043
00:55:32,893 --> 00:55:34,973
Speaker 4: So being surrounded by no positions would not help up.

1044
00:55:35,133 --> 00:55:38,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That doesn't feel like a good strategy.

1045
00:55:38,373 --> 00:55:41,013
Speaker 4: Positions like cans of baked beans would be very handy. Absolutely.

1046
00:55:41,093 --> 00:55:43,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, bottles of water, Malcolm, how are you?

1047
00:55:44,293 --> 00:55:44,732
Speaker 5: Oh here?

1048
00:55:44,733 --> 00:55:46,093
Speaker 20: They're goings have been new year to use.

1049
00:55:46,173 --> 00:55:46,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, happy New Year.

1050
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:48,093
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah.

1051
00:55:48,173 --> 00:55:51,733
Speaker 20: I firstly, I just mentioned about the devastation and Mount Monganu.

1052
00:55:52,053 --> 00:55:54,253
Speaker 20: We were actually sitting right outside that murder camp on

1053
00:55:54,373 --> 00:55:57,453
Speaker 20: the twenty ninth, just having a look in there. But

1054
00:55:58,213 --> 00:56:00,253
Speaker 20: couldn't you know it's always booked out? Havevid tried to

1055
00:56:00,253 --> 00:56:00,973
Speaker 20: book them there before?

1056
00:56:00,973 --> 00:56:02,173
Speaker 8: And it sort of hurts.

1057
00:56:02,013 --> 00:56:05,933
Speaker 20: Home when you're sort of semi involved in an environment.

1058
00:56:05,933 --> 00:56:09,013
Speaker 20: We'll do at a camper bus ourselves. But you know

1059
00:56:09,053 --> 00:56:12,333
Speaker 20: it's bloody, you know, it couldn't be worse for it.

1060
00:56:13,173 --> 00:56:14,613
Speaker 4: I mean, if you looked at if you ever looked

1061
00:56:14,613 --> 00:56:15,973
Speaker 4: at the mountain, we've you know, I've spent a lot

1062
00:56:15,973 --> 00:56:17,853
Speaker 4: of time down there as well. I've never looked at

1063
00:56:17,853 --> 00:56:19,613
Speaker 4: that area and thought this is a slip risk.

1064
00:56:20,173 --> 00:56:22,652
Speaker 20: No, you wouldn't think that's a pretty solid I did

1065
00:56:22,693 --> 00:56:24,413
Speaker 20: look at the hill because you know, we looked at

1066
00:56:24,413 --> 00:56:28,172
Speaker 20: that hill and thought, you know, you wouldn't think it's

1067
00:56:28,213 --> 00:56:30,573
Speaker 20: going to slip down. But I will add that it's

1068
00:56:30,613 --> 00:56:33,213
Speaker 20: a huge problem in New Zealand all these trees that

1069
00:56:33,213 --> 00:56:36,293
Speaker 20: have got so huge on these banks especially. You know,

1070
00:56:36,333 --> 00:56:38,853
Speaker 20: you look at some of these like Napier. Wellington City

1071
00:56:38,973 --> 00:56:43,813
Speaker 20: is shocking for having big trees on virtually vertical face hills.

1072
00:56:45,213 --> 00:56:47,493
Speaker 20: You know, things need to come down around those places.

1073
00:56:47,693 --> 00:56:49,533
Speaker 4: So how does that play out? So if it's if

1074
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:52,613
Speaker 4: it's a large tree, what is that what does that

1075
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:55,133
Speaker 4: help shift? Because because you want roots in there to

1076
00:56:55,373 --> 00:56:58,292
Speaker 4: stop a slip, right, but big trees it doesn't help.

1077
00:56:59,173 --> 00:57:01,533
Speaker 20: Well, you've got good and bad, you've got an amount

1078
00:57:01,573 --> 00:57:03,933
Speaker 20: of roots holding the ground together. But once that tree

1079
00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:07,973
Speaker 20: is huge, it weighs tons and it gets wet just

1080
00:57:07,973 --> 00:57:10,053
Speaker 20: just the way of the tree alone. Even if the

1081
00:57:10,173 --> 00:57:12,773
Speaker 20: ground's only sigh, it's going to pull out of the ground.

1082
00:57:14,173 --> 00:57:16,253
Speaker 8: We were actually in Tokamara.

1083
00:57:15,893 --> 00:57:18,333
Speaker 20: Down by Palmerston and the lifestyle block, and we had

1084
00:57:18,333 --> 00:57:22,573
Speaker 20: twenty trees on our property blowover over that wind period

1085
00:57:22,613 --> 00:57:25,573
Speaker 20: thing we had here on the twenty ninth in.

1086
00:57:25,613 --> 00:57:26,653
Speaker 5: Power out for three days.

1087
00:57:26,653 --> 00:57:30,893
Speaker 20: We're actually away up in Mount Longonery obviously and Taupo

1088
00:57:31,053 --> 00:57:32,853
Speaker 20: actually we were away while their power was out for

1089
00:57:32,893 --> 00:57:35,493
Speaker 20: three days, so it didn't really affect us for that,

1090
00:57:36,813 --> 00:57:42,413
Speaker 20: but our fridge, our fridge was affected. But yeah, that, Yeah,

1091
00:57:42,413 --> 00:57:44,493
Speaker 20: there's a lot of trees and you know a lot

1092
00:57:44,533 --> 00:57:48,053
Speaker 20: of trees taking out power lines as well. Whereas I

1093
00:57:48,053 --> 00:57:49,893
Speaker 20: think they need to start looking at these height, at

1094
00:57:49,933 --> 00:57:52,853
Speaker 20: these trees by power lines, they should be under them,

1095
00:57:54,493 --> 00:57:56,853
Speaker 20: under the height. And even my property before I brought that,

1096
00:57:56,893 --> 00:58:00,093
Speaker 20: the power board had actually given the people an ultimatum

1097
00:58:00,133 --> 00:58:02,613
Speaker 20: at the property to pay for the trees to be

1098
00:58:02,653 --> 00:58:05,013
Speaker 20: trimmed under the power lines or the power companies were

1099
00:58:05,013 --> 00:58:07,253
Speaker 20: take them off at the ground, and they opted for

1100
00:58:07,333 --> 00:58:09,453
Speaker 20: them to come off at the ground unfortunately because it's

1101
00:58:09,493 --> 00:58:13,533
Speaker 20: exposed the house. But yeah, the other thing was obviously

1102
00:58:13,533 --> 00:58:16,213
Speaker 20: we're at the camping grounds. We've got a camper van

1103
00:58:16,253 --> 00:58:21,173
Speaker 20: that's fully equip toilet, creates its own power cupboards of

1104
00:58:21,173 --> 00:58:24,253
Speaker 20: bloody full half most of the time, we would be

1105
00:58:24,253 --> 00:58:26,413
Speaker 20: able to handle them a good ten days or what.

1106
00:58:26,413 --> 00:58:26,693
Speaker 9: I mention.

1107
00:58:27,933 --> 00:58:30,773
Speaker 4: Those are the most prepared people. You say farmers. Farmers

1108
00:58:30,933 --> 00:58:32,653
Speaker 4: are good to go yep, for for a long time.

1109
00:58:32,693 --> 00:58:34,653
Speaker 4: Although I mean, god, farmers have to deal with so much,

1110
00:58:35,173 --> 00:58:37,493
Speaker 4: you know when when with events, I mean, oh here

1111
00:58:37,573 --> 00:58:41,773
Speaker 4: you move outside cheaper. Yeah, and so they have to

1112
00:58:41,813 --> 00:58:44,213
Speaker 4: be because they get hit with it more than anyone else. Right, Yeah.

1113
00:58:44,773 --> 00:58:47,893
Speaker 4: And people with camp events, yes, yeah, people with camper

1114
00:58:47,973 --> 00:58:49,293
Speaker 4: vans are good for emergencies.

1115
00:58:49,613 --> 00:58:52,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Motor Home and Caravan Association. I think if

1116
00:58:52,253 --> 00:58:53,893
Speaker 3: you're one of the mates with one of those people,

1117
00:58:53,933 --> 00:58:54,813
Speaker 3: they're pretty well stopped.

1118
00:58:55,213 --> 00:58:57,413
Speaker 4: I don't need to have an emergency kit living and

1119
00:58:58,253 --> 00:59:00,493
Speaker 4: mounted in Auckland.

1120
00:59:01,173 --> 00:59:03,293
Speaker 3: Well you say that now, I'm just trying to think

1121
00:59:03,333 --> 00:59:06,253
Speaker 3: how active for those those volcanoes that long gone, aren't they?

1122
00:59:06,253 --> 00:59:08,733
Speaker 4: I you'd hear about No, there's a couple of there's

1123
00:59:08,733 --> 00:59:11,373
Speaker 4: a bunch of I mean, the thing about volcanoes has

1124
00:59:11,453 --> 00:59:13,373
Speaker 4: never comes out in this it's active right now, It's

1125
00:59:13,373 --> 00:59:14,933
Speaker 4: not going to come out the same hole. It's probably

1126
00:59:14,973 --> 00:59:15,653
Speaker 4: going to make a new hole.

1127
00:59:15,733 --> 00:59:15,893
Speaker 6: Right.

1128
00:59:15,973 --> 00:59:19,253
Speaker 4: But we'd no, you know, those volcanologists, you know, like

1129
00:59:19,293 --> 00:59:22,573
Speaker 4: Spock they'll tell us what's going on before Ev and Shirley. Yeah,

1130
00:59:22,573 --> 00:59:24,453
Speaker 4: surely they're pretty go onto it these And also if

1131
00:59:24,493 --> 00:59:27,093
Speaker 4: there's if a volcano erupts, you know, I'm not going

1132
00:59:27,133 --> 00:59:28,773
Speaker 4: to sit around eating my can of baked beans in

1133
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:30,573
Speaker 4: the back gear. I'm going to get the hell out

1134
00:59:30,613 --> 00:59:30,733
Speaker 4: of there.

1135
00:59:30,773 --> 00:59:32,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to run. You're going to trive as

1136
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:34,493
Speaker 3: fast as you can. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1137
00:59:34,573 --> 00:59:36,653
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to cool love to hear from you.

1138
00:59:36,773 --> 00:59:38,813
Speaker 3: How prepared do you think you are to sit it

1139
00:59:38,813 --> 00:59:40,773
Speaker 3: out if need be for a couple of weeks. Nine

1140
00:59:40,853 --> 00:59:43,093
Speaker 3: two ninety two is that text number as well?

1141
00:59:43,253 --> 00:59:45,693
Speaker 4: After the Christie's earthquakes, this is text to Lem Brown,

1142
00:59:46,853 --> 00:59:49,773
Speaker 4: fan of the Natty Fataware Room, was asked if Auckland

1143
00:59:49,893 --> 00:59:53,373
Speaker 4: is prepared for a disaster. He said, boy, are we ever?

1144
00:59:54,773 --> 00:59:55,973
Speaker 4: Are we still in that position?

1145
00:59:56,213 --> 00:59:57,133
Speaker 3: It's kind a mysterious.

1146
00:59:57,173 --> 00:59:59,493
Speaker 4: What does it mean? Boy? Are we ever? We're really

1147
01:00:00,013 --> 01:00:01,853
Speaker 4: really prepared? Well, don't know if we were. You know,

1148
01:00:02,373 --> 01:00:05,533
Speaker 4: we're a couple of years ago, things we went pretty south,

1149
01:00:05,533 --> 01:00:06,453
Speaker 4: didn't they exactly?

1150
01:00:07,133 --> 01:00:07,293
Speaker 19: Right?

1151
01:00:07,333 --> 01:00:09,733
Speaker 3: Beck, very shortly, but of course, taking your calls, I

1152
01:00:09,733 --> 01:00:12,413
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's nineteen to three.

1153
01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,133
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1154
01:00:15,173 --> 01:00:19,093
Speaker 1: along the way, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons news talks,

1155
01:00:19,093 --> 01:00:20,813
Speaker 1: they'd be afternoon.

1156
01:00:20,853 --> 01:00:23,253
Speaker 3: It is sixteen to three, so I rescue if it

1157
01:00:23,373 --> 01:00:26,853
Speaker 3: is still underway in Mount Monganui's beachside holiday park, which

1158
01:00:26,973 --> 01:00:30,053
Speaker 3: was slammed by a landslide early this morning. We will

1159
01:00:30,053 --> 01:00:32,293
Speaker 3: of course continue to bring you the most up to

1160
01:00:32,373 --> 01:00:35,613
Speaker 3: date information on that as it comes through this afternoon.

1161
01:00:36,133 --> 01:00:38,293
Speaker 3: But we are taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

1162
01:00:38,373 --> 01:00:40,053
Speaker 3: ten eighty in texts on nine two ninety two.

1163
01:00:40,133 --> 01:00:42,413
Speaker 4: What's the situation in Fungo Maatar at the moment? Does

1164
01:00:42,453 --> 01:00:45,453
Speaker 4: anyone know one hundred eighteen eighty nine two nineteen nineteen.

1165
01:00:45,573 --> 01:00:47,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you know what's happening on Fungo Matar, there's

1166
01:00:47,733 --> 01:00:49,693
Speaker 3: a few techs coming through, so we'd love to update

1167
01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:51,973
Speaker 3: you on that. Shane, how are you?

1168
01:00:53,693 --> 01:00:55,413
Speaker 12: I'm fine, Thank you, Thank you for asking.

1169
01:00:55,573 --> 01:00:57,853
Speaker 3: Now, Mate, you were in the mount this morning, is

1170
01:00:57,853 --> 01:00:58,253
Speaker 3: that right?

1171
01:00:58,893 --> 01:00:59,093
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1172
01:00:59,133 --> 01:01:01,093
Speaker 12: So I walk around the mount pretty much every morning

1173
01:01:01,373 --> 01:01:06,133
Speaker 12: and keet it over this morning as usual. No, yeah,

1174
01:01:06,133 --> 01:01:07,773
Speaker 12: I couldn't go so it was surrending too much when

1175
01:01:07,773 --> 01:01:09,853
Speaker 12: do I get this morning? And I happened to stop

1176
01:01:09,893 --> 01:01:12,053
Speaker 12: at a cafe and talk with somebody before I went,

1177
01:01:13,893 --> 01:01:15,773
Speaker 12: and I got talking, talking, talking for a bit too long,

1178
01:01:15,813 --> 01:01:17,053
Speaker 12: and then I was about to leave and I heard

1179
01:01:17,093 --> 01:01:20,173
Speaker 12: all the sirens as I was hitting down Pilot Bay.

1180
01:01:20,533 --> 01:01:22,293
Speaker 12: Just as the sirens started, and I sort of thought,

1181
01:01:22,373 --> 01:01:25,813
Speaker 12: what was what's going on? I pulled over and just

1182
01:01:26,213 --> 01:01:28,933
Speaker 12: everybody for the council works that started climbing over the

1183
01:01:28,933 --> 01:01:35,013
Speaker 12: top of the wreckage to try and rescue people. And

1184
01:01:35,093 --> 01:01:37,333
Speaker 12: it was a bit of carnage at that point, with

1185
01:01:37,653 --> 01:01:42,613
Speaker 12: people running everywhere not knowing what's going on. Hit the

1186
01:01:42,653 --> 01:01:46,013
Speaker 12: crap out of me. I mean, it was huge, huge,

1187
01:01:46,693 --> 01:01:49,773
Speaker 12: It just a horrible sight. Horrible sight.

1188
01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:52,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, I be And so so you did you hear

1189
01:01:52,933 --> 01:01:54,613
Speaker 4: the first thing you heard was the sirens, though you

1190
01:01:54,653 --> 01:01:55,613
Speaker 4: didn't hear the actually slip.

1191
01:01:56,173 --> 01:01:56,533
Speaker 18: I didn't.

1192
01:01:56,573 --> 01:01:59,693
Speaker 12: I didn't hear the cracking of the trees. You heard

1193
01:01:59,733 --> 01:02:02,173
Speaker 12: a person talking just before me about the trees being problem,

1194
01:02:02,213 --> 01:02:05,213
Speaker 12: but the slip happened behind the trees. It's a big

1195
01:02:05,573 --> 01:02:08,213
Speaker 12: deep face on the slip, very steep.

1196
01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:10,133
Speaker 18: Ah.

1197
01:02:10,253 --> 01:02:13,133
Speaker 12: Yeah, although it's funny because I walk around the mound,

1198
01:02:13,173 --> 01:02:16,093
Speaker 12: like I said, every day and I'm kind of I

1199
01:02:16,173 --> 01:02:17,933
Speaker 12: look at things. I was on a farm up north

1200
01:02:17,973 --> 01:02:19,493
Speaker 12: and I had slips there, and I look at things

1201
01:02:19,533 --> 01:02:21,213
Speaker 12: where slips have been, and there's been a lot of

1202
01:02:21,213 --> 01:02:23,933
Speaker 12: slips obviously historically in the past on the mount you

1203
01:02:23,933 --> 01:02:27,453
Speaker 12: can see those lumping areas, and I keep thinking to

1204
01:02:27,493 --> 01:02:30,173
Speaker 12: myself every time I walk around, is this going to slip?

1205
01:02:30,253 --> 01:02:30,613
Speaker 10: Is this gone?

1206
01:02:30,693 --> 01:02:31,013
Speaker 12: Right?

1207
01:02:31,573 --> 01:02:33,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because because because for me it has

1208
01:02:33,613 --> 01:02:35,813
Speaker 4: always just looked like an incredibly solid I mean, I

1209
01:02:35,853 --> 01:02:38,533
Speaker 4: obviously don't have the the eyes or the knowledge to

1210
01:02:38,613 --> 01:02:40,773
Speaker 4: know what's what's a slippy better what has even slipped?

1211
01:02:40,773 --> 01:02:43,613
Speaker 4: I guess because I always just thought, boy, that that's

1212
01:02:43,653 --> 01:02:45,173
Speaker 4: just solid, so solid.

1213
01:02:47,333 --> 01:02:50,013
Speaker 12: I can recognize now where areas of slumped and fields

1214
01:02:50,013 --> 01:02:52,053
Speaker 12: and things on my farm where we had a few slips,

1215
01:02:52,053 --> 01:02:54,573
Speaker 12: and these are historic ones that are grown over, but

1216
01:02:54,613 --> 01:02:56,773
Speaker 12: you can definitely see they were slumping and slipping from

1217
01:02:56,813 --> 01:03:00,773
Speaker 12: the past. Obviously they've had rock full, substantial ones over

1218
01:03:00,813 --> 01:03:05,533
Speaker 12: the past few years. But this was a big, big

1219
01:03:05,933 --> 01:03:07,173
Speaker 12: slip and it wasn't rocks.

1220
01:03:07,173 --> 01:03:08,893
Speaker 5: It was all dirt and yeah.

1221
01:03:08,813 --> 01:03:12,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, an element and look, we don't know yet and

1222
01:03:12,333 --> 01:03:14,893
Speaker 3: the recovery if it is still ongoing and the rescue

1223
01:03:14,893 --> 01:03:17,133
Speaker 3: if it's still ongoing. But it does seem when you've

1224
01:03:17,133 --> 01:03:18,773
Speaker 3: got an event like this, and what do we hear

1225
01:03:18,773 --> 01:03:20,613
Speaker 3: from Brian Kelly, a man on the ground, and other

1226
01:03:20,653 --> 01:03:23,493
Speaker 3: experts that this is the most rain they've ever had

1227
01:03:23,533 --> 01:03:27,053
Speaker 3: since records began. And when you try and predict a

1228
01:03:27,093 --> 01:03:31,173
Speaker 3: piece of land or you know whether a landslip is

1229
01:03:31,213 --> 01:03:33,573
Speaker 3: going to occur, how can you and those sort of

1230
01:03:33,613 --> 01:03:37,333
Speaker 3: events if you've never experienced that, it's very difficult for

1231
01:03:37,413 --> 01:03:40,693
Speaker 3: Gootch engineers to be across everything and say, Okay, that

1232
01:03:40,813 --> 01:03:42,853
Speaker 3: might be in danger, that might be in danger. It

1233
01:03:42,893 --> 01:03:45,533
Speaker 3: just seems there's an element of unpredictability with some of

1234
01:03:45,533 --> 01:03:45,893
Speaker 3: these shows.

1235
01:03:46,333 --> 01:03:49,173
Speaker 12: I think you're absolutely right, and far be it from

1236
01:03:49,213 --> 01:03:51,213
Speaker 12: me to try and point blame at anybody, because that's

1237
01:03:51,213 --> 01:03:53,573
Speaker 12: not what I'm about. But I will say that the

1238
01:03:53,653 --> 01:03:58,093
Speaker 12: mount track circumnavigating the mount has had significant slips over

1239
01:03:58,133 --> 01:04:01,373
Speaker 12: the last few years where they've had to go in

1240
01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:03,693
Speaker 12: and do remedial work. So it's not uncommon for it

1241
01:04:03,733 --> 01:04:08,813
Speaker 12: to happen around the actual the mount itself, nothing as

1242
01:04:08,853 --> 01:04:13,133
Speaker 12: big as what this one was, but it's it's obviously

1243
01:04:13,173 --> 01:04:17,053
Speaker 12: not that stable and and this these people camping like

1244
01:04:17,293 --> 01:04:19,253
Speaker 12: it's gone into the hot pools. It's taken out some

1245
01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:21,213
Speaker 12: of the hot it's in there. A caravan was upside

1246
01:04:21,213 --> 01:04:25,373
Speaker 12: down on its side and where the pool was, and

1247
01:04:25,653 --> 01:04:28,493
Speaker 12: I was looking at that, you know, and unfortunately everybody's

1248
01:04:28,493 --> 01:04:30,613
Speaker 12: gotten out of the pool. But the pools were emptying

1249
01:04:30,653 --> 01:04:32,573
Speaker 12: out with the brown water just emptying out through the

1250
01:04:32,613 --> 01:04:36,013
Speaker 12: car park because of all the displacement from from the

1251
01:04:36,093 --> 01:04:38,973
Speaker 12: mud that had gone into them, and the buildings sort

1252
01:04:39,013 --> 01:04:41,133
Speaker 12: of crushed and upside down, the caravan sticking out of

1253
01:04:41,133 --> 01:04:45,093
Speaker 12: the mud. It's bloody awful. It was horrendous to hit

1254
01:04:45,133 --> 01:04:49,493
Speaker 12: the ablution block. It hit the ablution block and from

1255
01:04:49,533 --> 01:04:51,133
Speaker 12: there right across to the pools.

1256
01:04:51,613 --> 01:04:51,933
Speaker 21: Wow.

1257
01:04:52,773 --> 01:04:54,933
Speaker 12: So yes, right into the pools. The pools is about it,

1258
01:04:55,093 --> 01:04:57,573
Speaker 12: really because they're full of mud and dirt and whatever.

1259
01:04:58,653 --> 01:05:01,533
Speaker 3: So didn't you, I mean, desperately sad and we're all

1260
01:05:01,573 --> 01:05:04,733
Speaker 3: hoping for the best outcome as the recovery if it continues.

1261
01:05:04,773 --> 01:05:05,573
Speaker 4: Are you so?

1262
01:05:05,773 --> 01:05:07,533
Speaker 3: Are you in the mountain now, Shane? Or you would

1263
01:05:07,533 --> 01:05:08,253
Speaker 3: just there this morning?

1264
01:05:09,133 --> 01:05:09,933
Speaker 12: I was there this morning.

1265
01:05:09,933 --> 01:05:10,213
Speaker 5: I'm back.

1266
01:05:10,333 --> 01:05:12,013
Speaker 12: I'm back over at Tower on Or at the moment,

1267
01:05:12,733 --> 01:05:14,413
Speaker 12: but yeah, I was. I was there, and then I

1268
01:05:14,453 --> 01:05:16,413
Speaker 12: sort of thought, oh gee, I better go move my

1269
01:05:16,453 --> 01:05:18,293
Speaker 12: car because a lot of the appliances as were coming on.

1270
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:20,173
Speaker 12: I mean there was there was thirty cop cars coming

1271
01:05:20,213 --> 01:05:24,453
Speaker 12: and fire brigade ambulances from everywhere, and then no closing

1272
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:28,133
Speaker 12: off roads, so I was able to move my car out. Yeah,

1273
01:05:28,253 --> 01:05:31,093
Speaker 12: there was search and rescue people coming, helicop was coming,

1274
01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:36,773
Speaker 12: and they all went very very quickly. Yeah, they were

1275
01:05:37,053 --> 01:05:42,053
Speaker 12: very quick to get in there. Yeah, and it was

1276
01:05:42,093 --> 01:05:44,813
Speaker 12: almost like that some guys from the camera gun heard

1277
01:05:44,813 --> 01:05:46,173
Speaker 12: and say, oh, we had to evacuate the whole camp.

1278
01:05:46,173 --> 01:05:47,853
Speaker 12: Records they didn't know if any moore was going to

1279
01:05:47,893 --> 01:05:50,293
Speaker 12: come down, but just where it did come down, that's

1280
01:05:50,413 --> 01:05:54,573
Speaker 12: very quite steep there, and they'd closed the track behind

1281
01:05:54,653 --> 01:05:57,093
Speaker 12: that some some years back because it was unstable, and

1282
01:05:57,133 --> 01:05:58,853
Speaker 12: there's a lot of people camp under that, you know,

1283
01:05:59,613 --> 01:06:01,733
Speaker 12: And I did I did read where a person was

1284
01:06:01,773 --> 01:06:04,773
Speaker 12: in went out fishing and he heard some small slips

1285
01:06:04,773 --> 01:06:06,413
Speaker 12: and cracks and he went and worked some people up

1286
01:06:06,453 --> 01:06:07,853
Speaker 12: in the tents and says, hey, you guys, you might

1287
01:06:07,853 --> 01:06:09,413
Speaker 12: want to move. I think this thing.

1288
01:06:09,373 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 4: Happened right when was that was that recently?

1289
01:06:12,453 --> 01:06:14,693
Speaker 12: That was before it happened this morning, like an hour

1290
01:06:15,013 --> 01:06:18,333
Speaker 12: before it happened. So from what I from what I

1291
01:06:18,373 --> 01:06:20,413
Speaker 12: was reading, he did manage to move some people out,

1292
01:06:20,573 --> 01:06:22,333
Speaker 12: not knowing there was going to be a big slip coming. Dow,

1293
01:06:22,333 --> 01:06:23,653
Speaker 12: I'm going there some little ones at me.

1294
01:06:26,653 --> 01:06:28,493
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you so much for your call, Shane.

1295
01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:31,533
Speaker 3: It is one of those, you know. And and again

1296
01:06:31,653 --> 01:06:34,453
Speaker 3: this is a it's an ongoing situation. But I think

1297
01:06:34,453 --> 01:06:36,373
Speaker 3: when it comes to landsides, I'll put my hand up

1298
01:06:36,413 --> 01:06:39,693
Speaker 3: and say I'm naive to the ferocity and how dangerous

1299
01:06:39,693 --> 01:06:41,813
Speaker 3: they could be. And I have never been in a

1300
01:06:41,853 --> 01:06:44,653
Speaker 3: situation really where it might be at risk of something

1301
01:06:44,693 --> 01:06:47,573
Speaker 3: going down. But can you understand, you know, what I'm

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01:06:47,573 --> 01:06:50,813
Speaker 3: getting at here is that when it might feel like

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01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:52,973
Speaker 3: a piece of land is moving wherever you are and

1304
01:06:53,013 --> 01:06:54,733
Speaker 3: someone sees it might not be a good idea to

1305
01:06:54,773 --> 01:06:57,613
Speaker 3: say that there. You know, sometimes there is the it'll

1306
01:06:57,613 --> 01:06:59,773
Speaker 3: be right. You know that I'm not in danger here,

1307
01:06:59,813 --> 01:07:02,293
Speaker 3: I can I can get out fast enough that it's

1308
01:07:02,333 --> 01:07:05,133
Speaker 3: not going to impact me. But it's just not the reality.

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01:07:05,173 --> 01:07:07,693
Speaker 3: When these slips come down, they are fast, free for

1310
01:07:08,053 --> 01:07:11,053
Speaker 3: you know, friotious, that's not the right word, but they

1311
01:07:11,213 --> 01:07:16,053
Speaker 3: are fotious, friotious. They are fast, deadly, and you know,

1312
01:07:16,093 --> 01:07:17,453
Speaker 3: you can't outrun them, and.

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01:07:17,373 --> 01:07:20,453
Speaker 4: It's so easy afterwards to go whether it was going

1314
01:07:20,493 --> 01:07:22,333
Speaker 4: to be a slip there, m M, you know, yeah,

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01:07:22,373 --> 01:07:25,053
Speaker 4: it's harder to predict them before they come down, obviously. Hi,

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01:07:25,373 --> 01:07:27,493
Speaker 4: Mett and Tyler. I'm arison of Papa Moa and I

1317
01:07:27,613 --> 01:07:29,533
Speaker 4: just want to say a huge thanks to the emergency

1318
01:07:29,533 --> 01:07:31,973
Speaker 4: Service as well as council staff and contractors for their

1319
01:07:32,013 --> 01:07:35,733
Speaker 4: hard work with the devastating flooding here also thoughts of

1320
01:07:35,773 --> 01:07:37,613
Speaker 4: the poor people still missing. Just want to say it

1321
01:07:37,693 --> 01:07:40,773
Speaker 4: is really disappointing how some people react to certain situations

1322
01:07:41,173 --> 01:07:44,733
Speaker 4: or people in this and focus usterly on unimportant issues.

1323
01:07:45,053 --> 01:07:47,453
Speaker 4: One was the traffic and Papa Moa this morning roads

1324
01:07:47,453 --> 01:07:50,133
Speaker 4: were choked, but there have been several announcements to not

1325
01:07:50,173 --> 01:07:53,293
Speaker 4: travel unnecessarily. Why were so many on the roads or

1326
01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:55,573
Speaker 4: so was watching a live update from the mountain seeing

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01:07:55,573 --> 01:07:58,893
Speaker 4: comments about the speakers not pronouncing place names correctly. Really,

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01:07:59,053 --> 01:08:02,213
Speaker 4: people are hurt and die. What's really important? Anyway? Great

1329
01:08:02,293 --> 01:08:04,453
Speaker 4: job keeping us all informed, chairs.

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01:08:04,653 --> 01:08:07,253
Speaker 3: Tim very well putched right. Got to take a quick

1331
01:08:07,293 --> 01:08:10,293
Speaker 3: break back very shortly with more of your texts and calls.

1332
01:08:10,333 --> 01:08:11,893
Speaker 3: It is nine minutes to three.

1333
01:08:12,653 --> 01:08:15,093
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1334
01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:18,612
Speaker 1: along the way. Mad Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons News

1335
01:08:18,653 --> 01:08:19,452
Speaker 1: Talks EDB.

1336
01:08:20,372 --> 01:08:23,772
Speaker 3: News Talks, ed B. It is six minutes to three.

1337
01:08:24,253 --> 01:08:27,173
Speaker 3: We are taking your calls on preparedness. How prepared do

1338
01:08:27,213 --> 01:08:29,612
Speaker 3: you think you are if you were to face extreme

1339
01:08:29,652 --> 01:08:32,572
Speaker 3: weather as we've seen over the past forty eight hours.

1340
01:08:32,812 --> 01:08:34,772
Speaker 4: Hey guys, this guy is wrong, as the guy talking

1341
01:08:34,772 --> 01:08:38,372
Speaker 4: before about the problem that's causing slips as big trees,

1342
01:08:39,333 --> 01:08:41,333
Speaker 4: which was odd to me as well. I mean, I

1343
01:08:41,333 --> 01:08:43,612
Speaker 4: don't know anything at all about it, but I've always

1344
01:08:43,812 --> 01:08:47,293
Speaker 4: been told that trees stop slips, saying that that's the

1345
01:08:47,372 --> 01:08:49,972
Speaker 4: right type of tree, not tall trees. Trees don't get

1346
01:08:49,973 --> 01:08:53,412
Speaker 4: heavier when it rains, they're already full of water. The

1347
01:08:53,492 --> 01:08:56,052
Speaker 4: roots of the tree help hold all steep banks together

1348
01:08:56,093 --> 01:08:59,493
Speaker 4: and it helps prevent slips chairs. I mean, but Hoots

1349
01:08:59,772 --> 01:09:01,972
Speaker 4: is amazing at holding a bank together.

1350
01:09:01,812 --> 01:09:04,293
Speaker 3: Right, They got some deep roots to deep roots. But yeah,

1351
01:09:04,412 --> 01:09:07,933
Speaker 3: like you, I think planting foliage was always part of stabilizing,

1352
01:09:08,372 --> 01:09:09,613
Speaker 3: particular at hillsites.

1353
01:09:10,253 --> 01:09:12,452
Speaker 4: This stick says. My sister and her husband. We're camping

1354
01:09:12,492 --> 01:09:16,573
Speaker 4: at the mound at the tent and they've been evacuated

1355
01:09:16,572 --> 01:09:16,972
Speaker 4: this morning.

1356
01:09:17,253 --> 01:09:20,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, good news that I've been evacuated. So we

1357
01:09:20,253 --> 01:09:22,532
Speaker 3: are going to continue to bring you the latest on

1358
01:09:22,612 --> 01:09:25,532
Speaker 3: that devastating slip at the Mount Mongonui campground. But we're

1359
01:09:25,572 --> 01:09:27,692
Speaker 3: keen to hear from you, whether you're in Mount Mongonui,

1360
01:09:27,893 --> 01:09:32,253
Speaker 3: whether he on Totonga, Thames, Corrimandel, Northland. What are you

1361
01:09:32,372 --> 01:09:34,412
Speaker 3: seeing at the moment? How much damage is there on

1362
01:09:34,452 --> 01:09:36,693
Speaker 3: the roads round it? You'll place at your betch.

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01:09:36,612 --> 01:09:39,452
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, re fung Matar both entries and exits a

1364
01:09:39,492 --> 01:09:42,652
Speaker 4: block with slips, one very big one on the Wahi

1365
01:09:43,173 --> 01:09:47,213
Speaker 4: and fung aside and one across the road just up

1366
01:09:47,253 --> 01:09:50,492
Speaker 4: from the u Pirie Uitary School.

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01:09:50,532 --> 01:09:53,772
Speaker 3: Mike, okay, okay, good information. So Fungo Matar is still

1368
01:09:53,812 --> 01:09:56,932
Speaker 3: cut off. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that

1369
01:09:57,053 --> 01:09:58,772
Speaker 3: number to call? So really keen to hear from you

1370
01:09:58,973 --> 01:10:01,452
Speaker 3: what has been the extent of damage We you are

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01:10:01,692 --> 01:10:04,173
Speaker 3: in those hard hit parts of the North Island, and

1372
01:10:04,253 --> 01:10:06,732
Speaker 3: if you're in Mount Monganui at the moment, really keen

1373
01:10:06,772 --> 01:10:11,732
Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on the slip, devastating slip, And

1374
01:10:11,772 --> 01:10:13,812
Speaker 3: of course we will continue to bring you the latest

1375
01:10:13,812 --> 01:10:17,053
Speaker 3: breaking news is that recovery if it continues. That's all

1376
01:10:17,053 --> 01:10:21,173
Speaker 3: coming up in the next hour. New Sport Weather is

1377
01:10:21,253 --> 01:10:21,732
Speaker 3: on the way.

1378
01:10:21,853 --> 01:10:25,532
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, it looks like we have someone to talk about

1379
01:10:26,013 --> 01:10:28,492
Speaker 4: what to look out for in terms of areas that

1380
01:10:28,572 --> 01:10:29,372
Speaker 4: might slip as well.

1381
01:10:29,492 --> 01:10:33,133
Speaker 3: Brilliant geotech expert coming up as well. Great to have

1382
01:10:33,133 --> 01:10:35,812
Speaker 3: your company this afternoon. Hope you're doing well. Stay right here.

1383
01:10:36,013 --> 01:11:07,572
Speaker 16: We will be back very shortly.

1384
01:11:11,732 --> 01:11:16,052
Speaker 1: Your new home are insateful and entertaining. Talk It's Mattie

1385
01:11:16,293 --> 01:11:19,812
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk Savvy.

1386
01:11:20,253 --> 01:11:23,013
Speaker 3: A very good afternoons. You seven past three, and we

1387
01:11:23,053 --> 01:11:27,933
Speaker 3: are continuing our extensive coverage of the situation in Mount Monganui,

1388
01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:31,772
Speaker 3: but also the weather situation around those hard hit parts

1389
01:11:31,812 --> 01:11:34,013
Speaker 3: of the North Island. If you're in those areas, really

1390
01:11:34,093 --> 01:11:36,013
Speaker 3: keen to hear from you, what is the extent of

1391
01:11:36,013 --> 01:11:38,612
Speaker 3: the damage, How is your home, how is your family?

1392
01:11:38,652 --> 01:11:40,173
Speaker 3: What are you seeing at the moment? Really keen de

1393
01:11:40,173 --> 01:11:41,812
Speaker 3: of chat Oh eight one hundred and eighteen eighty.

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01:11:41,933 --> 01:11:44,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, we also want to talk about slips, because we

1395
01:11:44,772 --> 01:11:50,133
Speaker 4: know we know nothing about the Mount Mongonui slip. You

1396
01:11:50,173 --> 01:11:52,853
Speaker 4: know that this tragic situation now, so we're only speculating

1397
01:11:52,853 --> 01:11:55,572
Speaker 4: in that and so we want to talk about slips,

1398
01:11:55,572 --> 01:11:57,452
Speaker 4: but we're not talking about it in terms of what

1399
01:11:57,492 --> 01:12:00,253
Speaker 4: could have been known about that particular slip or that

1400
01:12:00,293 --> 01:12:03,173
Speaker 4: particular situation, but just slips in general, because they pop

1401
01:12:03,253 --> 01:12:06,133
Speaker 4: up a lot, and I think it's just good to

1402
01:12:07,053 --> 01:12:08,572
Speaker 4: for people to maybe have a couple of things to

1403
01:12:08,612 --> 01:12:10,852
Speaker 4: look out for, yeap when it comes to slips, and

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01:12:10,893 --> 01:12:13,412
Speaker 4: just have a little bit of knowledge. So we'll we

1405
01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:16,452
Speaker 4: talked to a couple of experts on slips coming up

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01:12:16,452 --> 01:12:17,173
Speaker 4: in this hour.

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01:12:17,293 --> 01:12:17,492
Speaker 9: Yep.

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01:12:17,532 --> 01:12:17,932
Speaker 8: We certainly.

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01:12:17,933 --> 01:12:20,132
Speaker 3: Well, now there's been a lot of people asking about

1410
01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:23,972
Speaker 3: funger Matar, So the latest information we have at hand

1411
01:12:24,652 --> 01:12:28,372
Speaker 3: is that title and Pawa Nui is still isolated by

1412
01:12:28,532 --> 01:12:31,173
Speaker 3: slips on State Highway twenty five to the north of

1413
01:12:31,253 --> 01:12:34,093
Speaker 3: the town, but of course Funga Matar is also isolated

1414
01:12:34,133 --> 01:12:37,572
Speaker 3: on State Highway twenty five A in State Highway twenty five.

1415
01:12:38,333 --> 01:12:42,173
Speaker 3: NZTA is working on clearing debris and assessing the damage.

1416
01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:45,333
Speaker 3: If you've got access to the internet, so you can

1417
01:12:45,492 --> 01:12:48,892
Speaker 3: check for updates on the NZTA's journey planner. But we'll

1418
01:12:48,933 --> 01:12:51,852
Speaker 3: continue to bring you updates as we get them right here.

1419
01:12:52,452 --> 01:12:55,093
Speaker 3: In the meantime, let's have a chat to Chris. Chris

1420
01:12:55,093 --> 01:12:55,892
Speaker 3: for a good afternoons.

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01:12:55,933 --> 01:12:58,212
Speaker 14: You hi, how are you guys?

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01:12:58,612 --> 01:12:59,572
Speaker 4: We're not too bad?

1423
01:12:59,732 --> 01:13:01,492
Speaker 3: How are you not too bad?

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01:13:01,532 --> 01:13:05,333
Speaker 22: I came back from our Hope yesterday in the torrential rain.

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01:13:06,412 --> 01:13:08,053
Speaker 22: I just want to have a big shout out to

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01:13:08,093 --> 01:13:11,812
Speaker 22: my Dean Motors next to the Challenge station and the

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01:13:11,853 --> 01:13:17,333
Speaker 22: guys at Upata Kiwi Fruit and Avocados because our windscreen

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01:13:17,732 --> 01:13:21,372
Speaker 22: screen wipers decided to give up the ghosts in the rain,

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01:13:22,093 --> 01:13:25,932
Speaker 22: and both those parties were absolutely amazing with looking after

1430
01:13:26,013 --> 01:13:28,933
Speaker 22: my family, my kids and making sure we got on

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01:13:28,973 --> 01:13:29,612
Speaker 22: the road again.

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01:13:29,772 --> 01:13:33,452
Speaker 14: So big shout out to those two teams. And just

1433
01:13:33,492 --> 01:13:35,452
Speaker 14: to let you know, we were staying at our hoop

1434
01:13:35,532 --> 01:13:39,133
Speaker 14: he topped ten and they were making provisions for people

1435
01:13:39,293 --> 01:13:43,253
Speaker 14: tenting that morning and the night before. And when we

1436
01:13:43,333 --> 01:13:47,932
Speaker 14: came through the gorge at about five point thirty six o'clock,

1437
01:13:48,013 --> 01:13:51,412
Speaker 14: maybe a bit later or earlier, we found that the

1438
01:13:51,452 --> 01:13:54,812
Speaker 14: gorge had closed after we got through, so the guys

1439
01:13:54,853 --> 01:13:58,093
Speaker 14: were very busy cutting down trees and making sure that

1440
01:13:58,173 --> 01:14:01,972
Speaker 14: the slips were cleared, and you know it bug ups

1441
01:14:01,973 --> 01:14:04,972
Speaker 14: to the emergency services as well. But it was pretty

1442
01:14:04,973 --> 01:14:09,173
Speaker 14: freaky the rain was pretty gnarly and the sides of

1443
01:14:09,213 --> 01:14:15,213
Speaker 14: the roads were pretty wet, and we weren't surprised that

1444
01:14:15,293 --> 01:14:17,932
Speaker 14: the gorge was shut or that there was severe flooding.

1445
01:14:18,412 --> 01:14:20,253
Speaker 14: But also just to shout out to the people in

1446
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:23,492
Speaker 14: Northland because they've got some major flooding as well.

1447
01:14:23,772 --> 01:14:26,052
Speaker 4: Yeah, so can I just take you back a step, Chris,

1448
01:14:26,692 --> 01:14:29,452
Speaker 4: You were trying to drive in this terrible weather and

1449
01:14:29,492 --> 01:14:35,932
Speaker 4: your windscreen wipersabout yep of all the time.

1450
01:14:38,692 --> 01:14:41,452
Speaker 14: It was just one bolt, but we lost the whole thing.

1451
01:14:41,652 --> 01:14:46,972
Speaker 14: And the guys at Upta avocados and Chiwi fruit and

1452
01:14:47,133 --> 01:14:50,692
Speaker 14: so Mike Dean Motors, I think it was his son

1453
01:14:50,732 --> 01:14:53,652
Speaker 14: that was came to the rescue them and sorted us

1454
01:14:53,933 --> 01:14:56,333
Speaker 14: out within two hours and we're back on the road.

1455
01:14:56,532 --> 01:14:59,972
Speaker 4: So basically the windscreen wiper's break your inferential rain. Did

1456
01:14:59,973 --> 01:15:01,452
Speaker 4: you just have to pull over to the side and

1457
01:15:01,492 --> 01:15:03,652
Speaker 4: then just get on your phone and try and find

1458
01:15:03,652 --> 01:15:06,173
Speaker 4: the nearest person. And they drove out. They drove out

1459
01:15:06,173 --> 01:15:06,572
Speaker 4: to help you.

1460
01:15:07,253 --> 01:15:11,372
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was amazing. But Mike, Mike's team was sent

1461
01:15:11,412 --> 01:15:13,973
Speaker 14: out from AA and then they just made sure we

1462
01:15:14,053 --> 01:15:17,532
Speaker 14: drive slowly back up to his workshops and they got

1463
01:15:17,532 --> 01:15:19,492
Speaker 14: the right tools and they got us all going again.

1464
01:15:19,572 --> 01:15:21,532
Speaker 14: But it was an interesting ordeal.

1465
01:15:21,853 --> 01:15:24,333
Speaker 3: Jeez, that makes you proud. Mike Dean Motors give them

1466
01:15:24,333 --> 01:15:25,053
Speaker 3: another shout out.

1467
01:15:25,093 --> 01:15:25,572
Speaker 9: But there were some.

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01:15:25,612 --> 01:15:31,532
Speaker 14: Great and and and also up to Kiwi Fruit and Avocados,

1469
01:15:31,532 --> 01:15:35,372
Speaker 14: particularly Keith and Colin. I rung them this morning and

1470
01:15:35,372 --> 01:15:36,692
Speaker 14: I'm about to send them some beers.

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01:15:38,372 --> 01:15:41,213
Speaker 4: And Colin, you're great New Zealanders. Yeah, you saved you

1472
01:15:41,333 --> 01:15:44,133
Speaker 4: save today. I mean, I guess it's good that you

1473
01:15:44,213 --> 01:15:47,213
Speaker 4: could just punk it down and sit in your car

1474
01:15:47,333 --> 01:15:48,732
Speaker 4: and wait for people to come. You know, I mean

1475
01:15:48,772 --> 01:15:50,812
Speaker 4: it sounds like the worst possible thing that could happen.

1476
01:15:50,853 --> 01:15:52,133
Speaker 4: You know, your windscreen wipe is breaking.

1477
01:15:52,452 --> 01:15:56,452
Speaker 14: The guys at the Kiwi Fruit and Avocados stopped got

1478
01:15:56,532 --> 01:16:00,452
Speaker 14: us into some shelter and just basically rung the AA

1479
01:16:00,612 --> 01:16:04,052
Speaker 14: for us because we couldn't get service. So they were amazing.

1480
01:16:04,213 --> 01:16:06,333
Speaker 4: They give you any key? Did they apply you with

1481
01:16:06,452 --> 01:16:07,492
Speaker 4: Kiwi fruit for nourishment?

1482
01:16:08,053 --> 01:16:10,732
Speaker 14: But I'm going to plug them all week or right right,

1483
01:16:12,093 --> 01:16:14,093
Speaker 14: and Mike Dean Motors as well, go and.

1484
01:16:14,053 --> 01:16:16,572
Speaker 4: Buy some Kiwi fruit from those great New Zealanders. Mike

1485
01:16:16,612 --> 01:16:18,732
Speaker 4: Dean Motors. Where were Keith and Colin from Chris?

1486
01:16:20,013 --> 01:16:23,693
Speaker 14: They were from Aperta. That's the Kiwi Fruit and Avocado

1487
01:16:25,333 --> 01:16:27,452
Speaker 14: just before Patty Chady.

1488
01:16:26,812 --> 01:16:29,772
Speaker 4: Keith, Keith and Colin great people from the Kiwi Fruit

1489
01:16:29,973 --> 01:16:33,892
Speaker 4: and Mike Dean from Mike Dean Motor's son. Yeah, go

1490
01:16:33,933 --> 01:16:34,612
Speaker 4: and support them.

1491
01:16:35,532 --> 01:16:37,612
Speaker 14: And John who was also in that Yeah.

1492
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:40,293
Speaker 4: John as well and John John had John fit into it.

1493
01:16:40,652 --> 01:16:42,052
Speaker 14: John was the other mechanic giving.

1494
01:16:42,492 --> 01:16:43,692
Speaker 3: He's part of the Mike Dean crew.

1495
01:16:43,893 --> 01:16:45,612
Speaker 4: Yeah. Great New Zealanders.

1496
01:16:45,732 --> 01:16:49,093
Speaker 3: Amazing And you mentioned I hope he at Top ten

1497
01:16:49,133 --> 01:16:51,093
Speaker 3: as well where you were staying, and obviously they were

1498
01:16:51,133 --> 01:16:53,772
Speaker 3: looking after you, so a nice shout out there. What

1499
01:16:53,853 --> 01:16:57,092
Speaker 3: was it like at the campground? Was it? Was it flooding?

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01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:58,333
Speaker 3: Was there any damage there?

1501
01:16:59,532 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 14: When we left at ten o'clock on yesterday morning it

1502
01:17:03,093 --> 01:17:06,772
Speaker 14: was okay. But they were sending around text messages basically

1503
01:17:06,812 --> 01:17:09,612
Speaker 14: saying we've got a backup fan please come and see

1504
01:17:09,692 --> 01:17:14,052
Speaker 14: us if you need a site other than your tent site.

1505
01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:16,492
Speaker 14: And they were they were really good. They've got an

1506
01:17:16,492 --> 01:17:19,572
Speaker 14: amazing sit up there. That's so good for Kiwis to

1507
01:17:19,612 --> 01:17:23,933
Speaker 14: go and spend money in other areas and help other Kiwis.

1508
01:17:23,973 --> 01:17:24,492
Speaker 4: Too, right.

1509
01:17:25,253 --> 01:17:28,412
Speaker 3: It sounds like, yes, sorry, Cary, I have to say, as.

1510
01:17:28,293 --> 01:17:33,572
Speaker 14: The life guards on our Hopey Beach amazing, they could

1511
01:17:33,612 --> 01:17:35,173
Speaker 14: see what was happening yesterday and they.

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01:17:35,053 --> 01:17:37,213
Speaker 19: Were just advising people not to go into the water.

1513
01:17:37,372 --> 01:17:41,692
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, great New Zealander's a lot of great

1514
01:17:41,692 --> 01:17:44,372
Speaker 4: New Zealanders getting deserved shout outs from Chris got on.

1515
01:17:44,333 --> 01:17:47,812
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, fantastic, does see you If you want to

1516
01:17:47,812 --> 01:17:49,372
Speaker 3: give a shout out to the good people out there

1517
01:17:49,412 --> 01:17:51,532
Speaker 3: that have really stepped up over the past forty eight hours,

1518
01:17:51,532 --> 01:17:53,612
Speaker 3: by all means, we love it, come on through. Eight

1519
01:17:53,692 --> 01:17:54,572
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1520
01:17:54,612 --> 01:17:56,013
Speaker 4: Have you ever been in a situation where it's been

1521
01:17:56,133 --> 01:18:01,412
Speaker 4: absolutely bucketing down and you've had a mechanical situation so

1522
01:18:01,652 --> 01:18:03,732
Speaker 4: you feel so set upon when it happens. Yeah, you're like,

1523
01:18:03,772 --> 01:18:06,093
Speaker 4: this is the time when I need my car to

1524
01:18:06,173 --> 01:18:10,333
Speaker 4: be waterproof and operational, looking after me win scream whippers. Yeah.

1525
01:18:10,372 --> 01:18:13,093
Speaker 4: When I had a terrible situation whereas the wind screen

1526
01:18:13,133 --> 01:18:16,452
Speaker 4: wipers just broke on this car, horrific Starlet that I

1527
01:18:16,532 --> 01:18:20,812
Speaker 4: used to have. Horrible, But there wasn't a situation where

1528
01:18:20,812 --> 01:18:23,012
Speaker 4: we could pull over easily because we were on the motorway.

1529
01:18:23,053 --> 01:18:26,053
Speaker 4: Oh my god. It was second only to when I

1530
01:18:26,053 --> 01:18:28,253
Speaker 4: was driving downd the motorway and the bonnet on my

1531
01:18:28,253 --> 01:18:31,532
Speaker 4: Mercedes came up, so I couldn't see at all. But

1532
01:18:31,612 --> 01:18:33,973
Speaker 4: what do you do? That was using era. Yeah, my

1533
01:18:34,013 --> 01:18:35,972
Speaker 4: mate had borrowed the car and hadn't collecked it down.

1534
01:18:36,452 --> 01:18:38,532
Speaker 4: But it's terrifying when you suddenly can't see you and

1535
01:18:38,532 --> 01:18:40,612
Speaker 4: you're on a motorway and everyone's going at one hundred

1536
01:18:40,652 --> 01:18:44,492
Speaker 4: kilometers now it is. It is uniquely terrifying situation to

1537
01:18:44,532 --> 01:18:45,492
Speaker 4: be in because what.

1538
01:18:45,572 --> 01:18:47,213
Speaker 3: Do you stick? You hit out the window. It's all

1539
01:18:47,213 --> 01:18:48,532
Speaker 3: I could think you could do is wind down the

1540
01:18:48,572 --> 01:18:50,772
Speaker 3: window and try and stick it out and be like, yeah,

1541
01:18:50,772 --> 01:18:51,372
Speaker 3: you're trying to do.

1542
01:18:51,333 --> 01:18:53,412
Speaker 4: That, but you also trying to make yourself hand whin

1543
01:18:53,492 --> 01:18:57,572
Speaker 4: screen wipers. My mate was trying to I had to

1544
01:18:57,612 --> 01:18:59,412
Speaker 4: grab my mate is trying to climb. He wanted to

1545
01:18:59,452 --> 01:19:01,213
Speaker 4: be physical windscreen wipers and get on the roof and

1546
01:19:01,253 --> 01:19:03,812
Speaker 4: do it. I like his commitment. Yeah, yeah, but we

1547
01:19:03,973 --> 01:19:05,293
Speaker 4: knew what was going on that was only going to

1548
01:19:05,333 --> 01:19:08,253
Speaker 4: make things worse. But yeah, it's a terrifying situation.

1549
01:19:09,093 --> 01:19:12,173
Speaker 3: Fourteen past three, taking your calls O eight one hundred

1550
01:19:12,173 --> 01:19:13,612
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to give a

1551
01:19:13,652 --> 01:19:15,213
Speaker 3: shout out to someone that helped you out over the

1552
01:19:15,213 --> 01:19:17,732
Speaker 3: past forty eight eight hours. By all means, we love

1553
01:19:17,772 --> 01:19:19,492
Speaker 3: that stuff, but also really can to hear from you

1554
01:19:20,053 --> 01:19:23,093
Speaker 3: about what the damage is like where you are, What

1555
01:19:23,173 --> 01:19:25,812
Speaker 3: have you seen? How is the house? How is the family?

1556
01:19:25,893 --> 01:19:28,892
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text as well. We'll

1557
01:19:28,933 --> 01:19:31,492
Speaker 3: be back very shortly. It is quarter past three.

1558
01:19:31,652 --> 01:19:33,892
Speaker 4: Why are you playing music from the Frozen movie in

1559
01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:36,652
Speaker 4: the background in christ Church? That's from Kine? Are we well?

1560
01:19:36,652 --> 01:19:38,452
Speaker 3: It's a great question, Kane. I've got no idea.

1561
01:19:38,492 --> 01:19:41,133
Speaker 4: What if we are? That's that's not intentional?

1562
01:19:41,173 --> 01:19:43,173
Speaker 3: No turn it off on a goodness say, christ Church,

1563
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:46,333
Speaker 3: don't be playing that back shortly on news talks. That'd

1564
01:19:46,372 --> 01:19:47,772
Speaker 3: be eighteen past three.

1565
01:19:47,893 --> 01:19:50,492
Speaker 4: A tip if you're wipers break and have a and

1566
01:19:50,532 --> 01:19:54,732
Speaker 4: you have a potato handy. These are two things that

1567
01:19:54,812 --> 01:19:56,652
Speaker 4: need to happen for this tip to work. You have

1568
01:19:56,692 --> 01:20:00,173
Speaker 4: to have a potato handy and your wipers break, cut

1569
01:20:00,173 --> 01:20:03,372
Speaker 4: it in half and rub it over your windscreen. The

1570
01:20:03,412 --> 01:20:05,812
Speaker 4: water will sheet off the glass. That is a top tip.

1571
01:20:06,093 --> 01:20:10,333
Speaker 4: But I mean Patoes justicuilt my situation because you know

1572
01:20:10,492 --> 01:20:16,732
Speaker 4: I'm racing down state higher one in the absolute pissing rain.

1573
01:20:17,253 --> 01:20:20,652
Speaker 4: Can't see anything one hundred kilometers an hour with cars

1574
01:20:20,652 --> 01:20:21,213
Speaker 4: all around me.

1575
01:20:21,452 --> 01:20:23,572
Speaker 3: Pretty hard to cut up a potato and just reach

1576
01:20:23,612 --> 01:20:25,372
Speaker 3: through the window and try and give it a bit

1577
01:20:25,372 --> 01:20:27,412
Speaker 3: of a rub while you're banging down.

1578
01:20:27,612 --> 01:20:30,492
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm not What do you do on boats,

1579
01:20:30,572 --> 01:20:32,732
Speaker 4: because you know, not all boats have windscreen whippers, but

1580
01:20:32,933 --> 01:20:36,133
Speaker 4: some of them have the windscreen treated such that water

1581
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:37,932
Speaker 4: won't remain on them.

1582
01:20:38,013 --> 01:20:39,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that some sort of waxy substance?

1583
01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:40,612
Speaker 4: Didn't you?

1584
01:20:40,612 --> 01:20:42,572
Speaker 3: You had a story about a mate who exidentally left

1585
01:20:42,572 --> 01:20:43,892
Speaker 3: potatoes in his car, didn't you.

1586
01:20:44,333 --> 01:20:47,213
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mate, that's right. Yeah, my mate had an

1587
01:20:48,053 --> 01:20:51,213
Speaker 4: over COVID. He abandoned ship out of Auckland because he

1588
01:20:51,452 --> 01:20:53,452
Speaker 4: realized that the government was planning to shut down Auckland

1589
01:20:53,452 --> 01:20:55,492
Speaker 4: for as long as possibly they could, just to punish

1590
01:20:55,532 --> 01:20:57,492
Speaker 4: us for being jeff as like as it was some

1591
01:20:57,532 --> 01:20:59,253
Speaker 4: people from Wellington that really wanted to get their own

1592
01:20:59,253 --> 01:21:01,692
Speaker 4: back in Auckland. It just feels like shut down Auckland forever.

1593
01:21:02,492 --> 01:21:06,133
Speaker 4: And but so he abandoned got out of town before

1594
01:21:06,173 --> 01:21:09,133
Speaker 4: that happened. And then but he left a bag of

1595
01:21:09,293 --> 01:21:11,772
Speaker 4: potatoes and lemons in the back of his car, back

1596
01:21:11,772 --> 01:21:16,372
Speaker 4: of his Mercedis Yep. And then he got back after

1597
01:21:16,412 --> 01:21:19,213
Speaker 4: everything and people were eventually about a thousand years later,

1598
01:21:19,253 --> 01:21:21,732
Speaker 4: allowed it back into Auckland and it had grown into

1599
01:21:21,973 --> 01:21:25,932
Speaker 4: the whole car was full of potato. No, it was onions, right,

1600
01:21:26,013 --> 01:21:28,932
Speaker 4: onions and lemons. Yep, onions and lemons, and they'd come

1601
01:21:28,973 --> 01:21:30,732
Speaker 4: to life and they'd filled his car like to completely

1602
01:21:30,772 --> 01:21:33,452
Speaker 4: destroyed his car like an alien taking over, you know,

1603
01:21:33,492 --> 01:21:35,372
Speaker 4: like in War of the World. Yeah, his car was

1604
01:21:35,612 --> 01:21:39,293
Speaker 4: completely full of onions. Onion growth.

1605
01:21:39,333 --> 01:21:41,293
Speaker 3: They'll go anywhere to find water. They'll just keep going

1606
01:21:41,293 --> 01:21:41,812
Speaker 3: and going.

1607
01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:43,852
Speaker 4: Grew into the leather, destroyed the whole freaking car. So

1608
01:21:43,853 --> 01:21:45,532
Speaker 4: what did he do? Just burn the car? Hey?

1609
01:21:45,572 --> 01:21:47,412
Speaker 3: Did he burn the car in the endoor? It's right

1610
01:21:47,452 --> 01:21:49,213
Speaker 3: off at that stage, there's no saving it once the

1611
01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:49,973
Speaker 3: onions have got it.

1612
01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:53,532
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did he do? I think when I say

1613
01:21:53,692 --> 01:21:55,212
Speaker 4: it's not right off, it's a re upholster.

1614
01:21:55,492 --> 01:21:58,133
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred and eighty ten

1615
01:21:58,213 --> 01:22:00,532
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Now we are also

1616
01:22:00,692 --> 01:22:05,612
Speaker 3: talking about slips. What information do you need to know

1617
01:22:05,652 --> 01:22:07,892
Speaker 3: if there is a potential for a slip to occur,

1618
01:22:07,973 --> 01:22:11,013
Speaker 3: or if you've had slips in your own property or

1619
01:22:11,013 --> 01:22:13,293
Speaker 3: your batch coming up after the break, We're gonna have

1620
01:22:13,293 --> 01:22:16,732
Speaker 3: a chat to a gentleman called Trent. He specializes in

1621
01:22:16,812 --> 01:22:19,492
Speaker 3: slip stabilization, so he's a real good good man to

1622
01:22:19,572 --> 01:22:21,133
Speaker 3: chat to. He is coming up next.

1623
01:22:21,173 --> 01:22:21,772
Speaker 4: Stand by.

1624
01:22:25,732 --> 01:22:30,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight eight on

1625
01:22:30,253 --> 01:22:31,293
Speaker 1: used talg ZB.

1626
01:22:31,173 --> 01:22:33,092
Speaker 3: Twenty two past three. So as we know, a rescue

1627
01:22:33,093 --> 01:22:36,173
Speaker 3: operation continues in Mount long and Nui after a devastating

1628
01:22:36,293 --> 01:22:41,213
Speaker 3: a landslide happened in the campgrounds. That operation is continuing

1629
01:22:41,213 --> 01:22:43,093
Speaker 3: and we will bring you the latest information when it

1630
01:22:43,133 --> 01:22:47,132
Speaker 3: comes to hand. But it has raised the question around

1631
01:22:47,293 --> 01:22:50,812
Speaker 3: how to know the danger of particular pieces of land

1632
01:22:50,812 --> 01:22:53,093
Speaker 3: where your home may be. How do you determine the

1633
01:22:53,492 --> 01:22:57,412
Speaker 3: danger aspects on when there could be a landslide imminent?

1634
01:22:57,893 --> 01:23:01,532
Speaker 3: So on the line right now we do actually have Trent,

1635
01:23:01,853 --> 01:23:06,772
Speaker 3: and Trent does specialize in slip stabilization, so we'll get

1636
01:23:06,772 --> 01:23:10,053
Speaker 3: to him, have a chat to him now. Trent, very good, afternoons.

1637
01:23:09,612 --> 01:23:14,133
Speaker 4: You bloddy good, thanks for talking to us today. Yeah,

1638
01:23:14,173 --> 01:23:15,372
Speaker 4: what are your expertise Trent?

1639
01:23:17,213 --> 01:23:21,133
Speaker 17: Well, okay, So in my experience fourteen years experience, there's

1640
01:23:21,173 --> 01:23:23,732
Speaker 17: probably a two key things to bear in mind.

1641
01:23:24,333 --> 01:23:26,732
Speaker 4: So what is your what are your qualifications? I guess

1642
01:23:26,772 --> 01:23:28,733
Speaker 4: is what I'm asking in the areas.

1643
01:23:28,333 --> 01:23:32,213
Speaker 17: Of what I'm getting there. So with this trade, there's

1644
01:23:32,293 --> 01:23:38,532
Speaker 17: not actually any qualifications. There's no there's no like apprenticeships

1645
01:23:38,572 --> 01:23:42,493
Speaker 17: or anything like that. It's basically all been through experience

1646
01:23:42,652 --> 01:23:47,612
Speaker 17: and taking an interest with geotechnical technical engineers and asking

1647
01:23:47,692 --> 01:23:50,173
Speaker 17: them more the important questions because if you don't, you

1648
01:23:50,253 --> 01:23:55,013
Speaker 17: won't actually learn. So really, when if anyone is ever

1649
01:23:55,053 --> 01:23:57,093
Speaker 17: looking for contractors, you need to be looking at their

1650
01:23:57,133 --> 01:23:59,612
Speaker 17: experience because they're not going to get too much in

1651
01:23:59,652 --> 01:24:01,253
Speaker 17: the way of qualifications.

1652
01:24:01,412 --> 01:24:02,852
Speaker 4: That's really that's really interesting.

1653
01:24:03,452 --> 01:24:04,572
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1654
01:24:04,133 --> 01:24:09,532
Speaker 17: Yeah, So obviously organizations and stuff like that can aid

1655
01:24:09,532 --> 01:24:12,293
Speaker 17: in that, but for the most part, you're really just

1656
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:14,812
Speaker 17: looking for guys who have done the hard yaker and

1657
01:24:14,893 --> 01:24:16,693
Speaker 17: actually got the experience.

1658
01:24:17,173 --> 01:24:19,532
Speaker 4: And you've done the hard yaker. Have your drink? Oh

1659
01:24:19,652 --> 01:24:24,053
Speaker 4: you sounds like okay, well, I feel like you know,

1660
01:24:24,133 --> 01:24:26,013
Speaker 4: fourteen years in the the in the trade is the

1661
01:24:26,053 --> 01:24:28,652
Speaker 4: hard yaker, So good on you. So what are they

1662
01:24:28,812 --> 01:24:30,333
Speaker 4: Let's just cut right to the trace. What are the

1663
01:24:30,333 --> 01:24:33,333
Speaker 4: earliest warning signs that a slip, a slope, or a

1664
01:24:33,372 --> 01:24:36,572
Speaker 4: cliff is becoming unstable? And something to worry about.

1665
01:24:37,372 --> 01:24:40,732
Speaker 17: So from my experience, there's three main things that I've

1666
01:24:40,772 --> 01:24:45,333
Speaker 17: always found that have been the main contributor to a slip.

1667
01:24:46,732 --> 01:24:50,492
Speaker 17: Now there's a bit of I guess you could see

1668
01:24:51,652 --> 01:24:53,972
Speaker 17: well before there was a poll who said something about

1669
01:24:54,013 --> 01:24:57,012
Speaker 17: trees and how they actually help with pretension of slow

1670
01:24:57,093 --> 01:24:59,732
Speaker 17: and that's one hundred percent true. But if I don't

1671
01:24:59,732 --> 01:25:02,293
Speaker 17: know if anyone's noticed, but if you actually walk along

1672
01:25:02,412 --> 01:25:04,372
Speaker 17: New Zealand's coastlines, you'll see hooter.

1673
01:25:04,293 --> 01:25:06,012
Speaker 8: Cars dropped to the beach.

1674
01:25:07,572 --> 01:25:10,133
Speaker 17: So a key thing with that is making sure that

1675
01:25:10,173 --> 01:25:13,412
Speaker 17: you're trimming them the backside of them, because what's happening

1676
01:25:13,492 --> 01:25:17,652
Speaker 17: is they're actually pulling themselves out of the ground with

1677
01:25:17,853 --> 01:25:21,133
Speaker 17: all that overbearing weight as they're hanging out over the edge.

1678
01:25:21,213 --> 01:25:23,293
Speaker 4: So so when you say trim the backside of it, you

1679
01:25:23,372 --> 01:25:25,133
Speaker 4: mean trim the bit that's pulling them over.

1680
01:25:25,293 --> 01:25:30,372
Speaker 23: So so yeah, yeah, yeah, you need to keep the

1681
01:25:30,412 --> 01:25:33,972
Speaker 23: backside of that trim and if anything, the side facing

1682
01:25:34,013 --> 01:25:36,013
Speaker 23: you you should, you know, try and keep a bit

1683
01:25:36,013 --> 01:25:38,052
Speaker 23: longer because you want to keep the weight, yeah.

1684
01:25:38,133 --> 01:25:40,452
Speaker 17: Or the top edge of the cliff not on the

1685
01:25:40,452 --> 01:25:41,412
Speaker 17: other opposite side.

1686
01:25:41,492 --> 01:25:47,492
Speaker 4: So are the best you know for holding a cliff together.

1687
01:25:48,133 --> 01:25:53,372
Speaker 17: Yeah, one hundred percent. They've got very dense root structures,

1688
01:25:53,372 --> 01:25:56,372
Speaker 17: like amazingly dense. It's almost like a mat and if

1689
01:25:56,412 --> 01:25:59,852
Speaker 17: you actually bigger Martins, it can actually be quite difficult.

1690
01:26:01,133 --> 01:26:03,892
Speaker 17: But they are shallow rooted as well, so that's also

1691
01:26:04,013 --> 01:26:06,252
Speaker 17: part of the problem. They do have long root structures

1692
01:26:06,253 --> 01:26:09,492
Speaker 17: so they can go beyond one hundred meters also and

1693
01:26:09,572 --> 01:26:12,333
Speaker 17: back beyond the cliff, which is good, but yet again

1694
01:26:12,372 --> 01:26:15,812
Speaker 17: you know, for the weights too much over the edge

1695
01:26:15,812 --> 01:26:17,732
Speaker 17: of the cliff, you're going to have yourself have that

1696
01:26:17,853 --> 01:26:20,933
Speaker 17: tree pulling itself out of the ground. So that is

1697
01:26:20,933 --> 01:26:24,093
Speaker 17: a is definitely something people need to watch closely. And

1698
01:26:24,133 --> 01:26:27,372
Speaker 17: I as there's the zone to myself. That's one thing

1699
01:26:27,412 --> 01:26:32,133
Speaker 17: that I advocate for, Matt. So another thing is your

1700
01:26:32,253 --> 01:26:33,652
Speaker 17: drainage as true.

1701
01:26:33,772 --> 01:26:35,572
Speaker 4: Just to go back to the trees, someone ticks them before,

1702
01:26:35,572 --> 01:26:36,892
Speaker 4: and then we've got a bunch of techs back and

1703
01:26:36,933 --> 01:26:40,093
Speaker 4: forth on this. Actually someone rang and said that the

1704
01:26:40,093 --> 01:26:43,492
Speaker 4: trees when it gets wet, when it's raining, that the

1705
01:26:43,492 --> 01:26:46,452
Speaker 4: trees take on a whole lot of weight, and then

1706
01:26:46,492 --> 01:26:47,933
Speaker 4: other people are saying, no, the trees are full of

1707
01:26:47,933 --> 01:26:49,852
Speaker 4: water already, that that they don't really take on a

1708
01:26:49,853 --> 01:26:51,772
Speaker 4: lot of weight when it rains, do the trees become

1709
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:52,932
Speaker 4: more of a problem themselves.

1710
01:26:53,173 --> 01:26:53,492
Speaker 5: Probably.

1711
01:26:53,812 --> 01:26:58,372
Speaker 17: They're probably healthy and polling water, but the rain itself

1712
01:26:58,412 --> 01:27:00,372
Speaker 17: isn't going to like just dump a whole bunch of

1713
01:27:00,452 --> 01:27:03,572
Speaker 17: weight onto the tree, you know. I think, yeah, maybe

1714
01:27:03,612 --> 01:27:05,412
Speaker 17: in a big drought where it's still really get you

1715
01:27:05,452 --> 01:27:09,052
Speaker 17: really thirsty, then you might notice it. But for me personally,

1716
01:27:09,053 --> 01:27:12,652
Speaker 17: we're not on trimming trees, specially rudy cars and they've

1717
01:27:12,652 --> 01:27:17,173
Speaker 17: got overhanging away. You can feel the tree relieved instantaneously.

1718
01:27:17,492 --> 01:27:20,732
Speaker 17: You know, it's like wow, thank you, thank.

1719
01:27:22,213 --> 01:27:22,412
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1720
01:27:22,492 --> 01:27:24,572
Speaker 4: Yeah. All right, So when I rudely interrupted, you're about

1721
01:27:24,572 --> 01:27:25,812
Speaker 4: to talk about drainage trend.

1722
01:27:26,652 --> 01:27:29,012
Speaker 17: Yes, correct, So that is one of the other main

1723
01:27:29,053 --> 01:27:32,012
Speaker 17: issues you need to be looking at. Chier acrott of pipes.

1724
01:27:32,013 --> 01:27:33,652
Speaker 17: If you've got an old property and you've got pier

1725
01:27:33,692 --> 01:27:36,852
Speaker 17: acrott of pipes, you are probably looking at a slip

1726
01:27:36,893 --> 01:27:41,532
Speaker 17: coming you away very shortly. Even worth PBC pipes, you've

1727
01:27:41,532 --> 01:27:43,572
Speaker 17: got to be careful as well. They haven't been installed

1728
01:27:43,772 --> 01:27:47,412
Speaker 17: that well. You'll find that there's expansion and contraction in

1729
01:27:47,452 --> 01:27:50,412
Speaker 17: the soils. So when it's wet and then it's dry,

1730
01:27:51,173 --> 01:27:54,772
Speaker 17: the soil expands and contracts, you can actually get really

1731
01:27:54,812 --> 01:27:57,492
Speaker 17: high tensile forces going through the ground onto your pipes

1732
01:27:57,532 --> 01:28:00,732
Speaker 17: that way, as well as tree routes just lodging pipes

1733
01:28:00,893 --> 01:28:05,053
Speaker 17: or causing flockigers. So the grain comes, you've got a

1734
01:28:05,093 --> 01:28:09,052
Speaker 17: block in your pipe or it's cracked. You're either pouring

1735
01:28:09,093 --> 01:28:11,732
Speaker 17: a lot of water and behind one of those joints somewhere,

1736
01:28:12,532 --> 01:28:15,052
Speaker 17: or you're getting massive head pressure and you could cause

1737
01:28:15,053 --> 01:28:16,132
Speaker 17: a rupture somewhere.

1738
01:28:16,173 --> 01:28:20,293
Speaker 3: Back up that line, I've christianed Trent, but as a homeowner,

1739
01:28:20,532 --> 01:28:22,333
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure we don't have terracotta pipes.

1740
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:22,973
Speaker 4: But how would you know?

1741
01:28:23,053 --> 01:28:24,612
Speaker 3: And I take it a lot of the terra cotta

1742
01:28:24,893 --> 01:28:27,892
Speaker 3: pipes would would go from the council infrastructure up to

1743
01:28:27,933 --> 01:28:28,173
Speaker 3: the home.

1744
01:28:28,293 --> 01:28:31,213
Speaker 17: Is that how it works typically? Yeah, but there is

1745
01:28:31,253 --> 01:28:34,012
Speaker 17: a lot of stuff well, there's a lot of old

1746
01:28:34,093 --> 01:28:38,252
Speaker 17: drainage that The reason I know about terracotta is because

1747
01:28:38,452 --> 01:28:42,012
Speaker 17: that I have been the one who found them all

1748
01:28:42,053 --> 01:28:45,093
Speaker 17: the time, because it's just you know, old infrastructure that's

1749
01:28:45,133 --> 01:28:48,972
Speaker 17: just outdated. And obviously with those kinds of joints, they're

1750
01:28:48,973 --> 01:28:52,452
Speaker 17: not exactly secure, you know, it's not blued so to speak.

1751
01:28:52,492 --> 01:28:54,372
Speaker 17: They're just kind of most of the time they've just

1752
01:28:54,372 --> 01:28:57,452
Speaker 17: been butted up together and there's no mortar anything. It's

1753
01:28:57,532 --> 01:29:02,412
Speaker 17: really quite quite sad. But so your drainers are massive thing.

1754
01:29:02,532 --> 01:29:04,213
Speaker 17: So if you've got any pipe hanging out there to

1755
01:29:04,213 --> 01:29:07,132
Speaker 17: your work, you should be monitoring them and and yearly

1756
01:29:07,213 --> 01:29:11,732
Speaker 17: getting them checked TV big big. I can't advocate, sorry,

1757
01:29:11,853 --> 01:29:14,612
Speaker 17: I abpect that massively because if you don't know, you

1758
01:29:14,732 --> 01:29:19,652
Speaker 17: need to know. It's it's just too risky. But if

1759
01:29:19,692 --> 01:29:21,572
Speaker 17: you're going to have water pouring in from drainage and

1760
01:29:21,692 --> 01:29:23,612
Speaker 17: back up somewhere on the property, you can use a

1761
01:29:23,652 --> 01:29:26,772
Speaker 17: lot of land and it could cost you in the

1762
01:29:26,812 --> 01:29:29,293
Speaker 17: excess of hundreds of thousands because.

1763
01:29:29,173 --> 01:29:32,052
Speaker 4: See same put cameras up the pipes. Basically is that saying.

1764
01:29:31,893 --> 01:29:32,532
Speaker 9: I dearly yeah.

1765
01:29:32,572 --> 01:29:34,213
Speaker 17: If you can't it with water, If it like you

1766
01:29:34,253 --> 01:29:36,172
Speaker 17: do tigen of water and you can see the outlet

1767
01:29:36,372 --> 01:29:39,213
Speaker 17: and it doesn't look like it's you know, in sync

1768
01:29:39,293 --> 01:29:41,372
Speaker 17: with what you're actually putting in, you've probably got some

1769
01:29:41,652 --> 01:29:45,452
Speaker 17: water drainage issues somewhere. So in which case, definitely get

1770
01:29:45,452 --> 01:29:49,772
Speaker 17: its CCTV. So the reason I say all the stuff

1771
01:29:49,893 --> 01:29:52,692
Speaker 17: is because it costs a lot of money to repair

1772
01:29:52,772 --> 01:29:57,612
Speaker 17: a slip in comparison to being proactive about it before

1773
01:29:57,652 --> 01:29:59,612
Speaker 17: a slip. So if you can put a look for

1774
01:29:59,692 --> 01:30:04,492
Speaker 17: these things and be proactive about it, you can save

1775
01:30:04,532 --> 01:30:07,372
Speaker 17: yourself a lot of money because if the majority of

1776
01:30:07,372 --> 01:30:12,333
Speaker 17: time and of insurance, insurance will not pay out beyond

1777
01:30:12,372 --> 01:30:17,253
Speaker 17: eight meters usually, so if slipper is beyond eight meters

1778
01:30:17,293 --> 01:30:20,492
Speaker 17: from your house structure, it's in your own pocket.

1779
01:30:20,893 --> 01:30:21,173
Speaker 13: Wow.

1780
01:30:21,492 --> 01:30:23,092
Speaker 4: So, so which slips risks?

1781
01:30:23,452 --> 01:30:23,652
Speaker 18: You know?

1782
01:30:23,692 --> 01:30:30,492
Speaker 4: Which slips a genuinely preventable, preventable with routine maintenance, Like

1783
01:30:30,492 --> 01:30:34,133
Speaker 4: like you're saying, which which slips are just not impossible

1784
01:30:34,133 --> 01:30:36,572
Speaker 4: to spot and impossible to stop.

1785
01:30:37,652 --> 01:30:40,572
Speaker 17: It really comes down to I think, like I want

1786
01:30:40,572 --> 01:30:43,572
Speaker 17: to see I'm not a geojeck, but from my experience,

1787
01:30:43,652 --> 01:30:47,692
Speaker 17: what I've seen is if you look at the cliff right,

1788
01:30:47,772 --> 01:30:51,572
Speaker 17: and you can see what looks like it's called soil horizons,

1789
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:54,572
Speaker 17: and so they're like lateral lines to go through the soil,

1790
01:30:55,452 --> 01:30:57,532
Speaker 17: so that that's called a soil horizon, right, And so

1791
01:30:58,333 --> 01:31:00,412
Speaker 17: what I tend to look for is if I can

1792
01:31:00,492 --> 01:31:03,652
Speaker 17: see that those soil horizons are leaning towards the ocean,

1793
01:31:04,893 --> 01:31:07,492
Speaker 17: you're more likely to have a slip that's going to

1794
01:31:07,532 --> 01:31:09,892
Speaker 17: look like you're gonna lose a lot more land compared

1795
01:31:09,893 --> 01:31:13,852
Speaker 17: to one that's dead level or tilting back towards the street,

1796
01:31:14,372 --> 01:31:17,333
Speaker 17: because obviously brevity is not going to be working so

1797
01:31:17,412 --> 01:31:19,053
Speaker 17: hard against that comparison to.

1798
01:31:21,293 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 4: It's logical.

1799
01:31:22,013 --> 01:31:25,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just a random question from me, But the

1800
01:31:25,652 --> 01:31:29,133
Speaker 3: idea of pine trees and you know, you see just

1801
01:31:29,213 --> 01:31:32,372
Speaker 3: anecdotally a lot of the slips. You know it was

1802
01:31:32,372 --> 01:31:35,333
Speaker 3: pine trees involved in that situation. Is there something different

1803
01:31:35,372 --> 01:31:38,253
Speaker 3: about pine tree rootage for lack of a better word,

1804
01:31:38,293 --> 01:31:40,412
Speaker 3: that's different to the natives like Phokawa.

1805
01:31:40,492 --> 01:31:42,253
Speaker 4: Are they shallower? Are they more fragile?

1806
01:31:43,333 --> 01:31:49,132
Speaker 17: Well, they tend to penetrate the ground directly down instead

1807
01:31:49,213 --> 01:31:54,133
Speaker 17: of like a prutical, which gives you groundcome. So you're

1808
01:31:54,213 --> 01:31:56,412
Speaker 17: essentially just putting a stake in the round, you know,

1809
01:31:56,452 --> 01:31:59,372
Speaker 17: and then depending on the slaw that you're that pine

1810
01:31:59,452 --> 01:32:02,492
Speaker 17: is in, that could actually break it up faster, which

1811
01:32:03,133 --> 01:32:05,133
Speaker 17: would speed up that whole process.

1812
01:32:05,293 --> 01:32:07,492
Speaker 4: Now, you said there was You said there were three things,

1813
01:32:08,372 --> 01:32:10,772
Speaker 4: and I interrupted you. So you see drainage and trees,

1814
01:32:10,893 --> 01:32:13,973
Speaker 4: So I interrupted you with my high barlocks before you

1815
01:32:13,973 --> 01:32:14,772
Speaker 4: got to the third.

1816
01:32:14,532 --> 01:32:18,732
Speaker 17: One side was erosion. So that's obviously just like anything

1817
01:32:18,772 --> 01:32:24,572
Speaker 17: to do with natural processes like rainfall, wind, even wave

1818
01:32:24,652 --> 01:32:30,532
Speaker 17: action and you again expansion of contracting the saws, dry

1819
01:32:30,612 --> 01:32:36,052
Speaker 17: and wet conditions, that kind of stuff will speed up erosion.

1820
01:32:36,173 --> 01:32:40,852
Speaker 17: And so council typically wants everyone to be planting re

1821
01:32:40,973 --> 01:32:44,892
Speaker 17: establishing vegetation into the cliff to try and protect the

1822
01:32:44,893 --> 01:32:48,293
Speaker 17: cliff from further erosion and in some places of works,

1823
01:32:48,812 --> 01:32:50,692
Speaker 17: but that depends on the.

1824
01:32:50,492 --> 01:32:52,053
Speaker 19: Soil that the plants are in.

1825
01:32:52,893 --> 01:32:56,572
Speaker 17: So typically you're going to find that the cliffs are

1826
01:32:56,612 --> 01:32:59,852
Speaker 17: quite bare of plant. That's because they can't actually establish

1827
01:32:59,933 --> 01:33:02,372
Speaker 17: plant growth because they don't have the nutrients to support it.

1828
01:33:04,812 --> 01:33:08,293
Speaker 17: So you in that scenario, and if you're having erosion process,

1829
01:33:08,492 --> 01:33:11,253
Speaker 17: you really need to get geotextile type matting zone which

1830
01:33:11,333 --> 01:33:15,492
Speaker 17: are actually manufactured and made specifically for New Zealand's conditions,

1831
01:33:15,853 --> 01:33:17,732
Speaker 17: which can have up to one hundred and fifty years

1832
01:33:17,732 --> 01:33:18,253
Speaker 17: design light.

1833
01:33:19,093 --> 01:33:23,452
Speaker 3: Wow, fascinating you've done the hard hard yaka as you say, Trent,

1834
01:33:23,532 --> 01:33:25,572
Speaker 3: but as that's a lot of information out there for

1835
01:33:25,612 --> 01:33:27,812
Speaker 3: people to know on good information. Hey really appreciate you

1836
01:33:27,893 --> 01:33:30,772
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz. It is fascinating, isn't it.

1837
01:33:30,893 --> 01:33:31,413
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1838
01:33:31,492 --> 01:33:33,812
Speaker 3: Right right, coming up after the headlines, we're going to

1839
01:33:33,933 --> 01:33:35,173
Speaker 3: keep this going because we're going to have a chat

1840
01:33:35,173 --> 01:33:40,173
Speaker 3: to a lecturer in geomechanical engineering from the Auckland University,

1841
01:33:40,572 --> 01:33:42,412
Speaker 3: so we've got plenty more questions for him when it

1842
01:33:42,452 --> 01:33:46,893
Speaker 3: comes to assessing the danger of a particular landslip or landslide.

1843
01:33:46,933 --> 01:33:48,452
Speaker 3: That is all coming up, but keen to hear from you.

1844
01:33:48,532 --> 01:33:50,093
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is a text number, and oh

1845
01:33:50,093 --> 01:33:52,692
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1846
01:33:52,732 --> 01:33:53,812
Speaker 3: It's twenty six to four.

1847
01:33:55,293 --> 01:33:59,412
Speaker 11: You've talk said be headlines with blue bubble taxes, it's

1848
01:33:59,452 --> 01:34:04,133
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble fear. In Manganui, searchers

1849
01:34:04,213 --> 01:34:08,253
Speaker 11: work through unstable rubble and dirt left by landslide the

1850
01:34:08,412 --> 01:34:13,533
Speaker 11: mountain's base across Beachside holiday park. It hit tents, cars, caravans,

1851
01:34:13,572 --> 01:34:17,213
Speaker 11: a toilet block and the pools, leaving fewer than ten

1852
01:34:17,293 --> 01:34:22,293
Speaker 11: people not accounted for, including young children search as young

1853
01:34:22,333 --> 01:34:25,412
Speaker 11: people I should have said. Searchers also continue for two

1854
01:34:25,492 --> 01:34:30,812
Speaker 11: people since a slip overnight in Todong's Welcome Bay. Police

1855
01:34:30,812 --> 01:34:33,253
Speaker 11: have again paused the search for a man swept away

1856
01:34:33,253 --> 01:34:37,372
Speaker 11: near Walkworth yesterday. States of emergency continue in six bay

1857
01:34:37,412 --> 01:34:42,252
Speaker 11: of plenty districts and Fargare, Hodarchy, Thames, Corrimandel, tied Afiti

1858
01:34:42,893 --> 01:34:46,213
Speaker 11: powers still out to seven thousand homes, and sections of

1859
01:34:46,253 --> 01:34:50,452
Speaker 11: state highways thirty five, two and twenty five are still closed.

1860
01:34:51,492 --> 01:34:55,213
Speaker 11: The COMMUS Commission sent Warwars a warning about competition and

1861
01:34:55,253 --> 01:35:00,333
Speaker 11: its processes on choosing to not stock products. Consultations opened

1862
01:35:00,372 --> 01:35:03,813
Speaker 11: on a farm AC proposal to fund cystic fibrosis drugs

1863
01:35:03,973 --> 01:35:09,612
Speaker 11: for under sixes Trifacta and a liftrek Stubborn inflation could

1864
01:35:09,692 --> 01:35:13,572
Speaker 11: mean interest rates rise sooner than forecast. Read more at

1865
01:35:13,572 --> 01:35:16,692
Speaker 11: Inzaid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1866
01:35:18,013 --> 01:35:20,812
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean. Now, just before we

1867
01:35:20,853 --> 01:35:22,652
Speaker 3: get back to the phone's plenty of texts coming through

1868
01:35:22,652 --> 01:35:24,492
Speaker 3: on nine to nine two.

1869
01:35:25,372 --> 01:35:29,372
Speaker 4: Now, you know, I'm not sure about this, but you

1870
01:35:29,412 --> 01:35:33,172
Speaker 4: know our expert TRN on slips. Yep, he said before

1871
01:35:33,213 --> 01:35:38,093
Speaker 4: that you get no insurance if a slip happens and

1872
01:35:38,293 --> 01:35:40,253
Speaker 4: necess it's less than eight meters from your property, right

1873
01:35:40,253 --> 01:35:43,132
Speaker 4: from your house, right. But this text says that guy's incorrect.

1874
01:35:43,133 --> 01:35:44,692
Speaker 4: There is no such thing as the eight meter rule.

1875
01:35:44,973 --> 01:35:48,333
Speaker 4: Anything natural disaster is covered from your insurance or QC.

1876
01:35:48,853 --> 01:35:53,492
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, text through your qualifications as well. It

1877
01:35:53,572 --> 01:35:55,692
Speaker 3: turned out pretty good cover qualification. So could you back

1878
01:35:55,772 --> 01:35:57,452
Speaker 3: up that Textek to know what he was talking about?

1879
01:35:57,452 --> 01:35:58,772
Speaker 4: But you know that the way that guy came through

1880
01:35:58,812 --> 01:36:01,852
Speaker 4: sounded like he was involved in the insurance world. Rainyck's

1881
01:36:01,933 --> 01:36:04,532
Speaker 4: great for both wind screens. So we were talking before

1882
01:36:04,572 --> 01:36:07,412
Speaker 4: about We talked to Cress who was driving from a

1883
01:36:07,492 --> 01:36:10,612
Speaker 4: hope and to windscreens broken their trenchill down Paul last

1884
01:36:10,692 --> 01:36:12,892
Speaker 4: night and so she had to save the day. Someone

1885
01:36:12,933 --> 01:36:16,253
Speaker 4: was saying that you cut a potato tato, rub it

1886
01:36:16,293 --> 01:36:19,372
Speaker 4: on your windscreen and the water just beads off. Yes,

1887
01:36:19,412 --> 01:36:21,253
Speaker 4: And I was saying, what makes a beat off? And

1888
01:36:21,333 --> 01:36:24,333
Speaker 4: boats a bunch of people to text. So it's rainy

1889
01:36:24,492 --> 01:36:27,052
Speaker 4: x great for boat boat wind screens and old classic

1890
01:36:27,053 --> 01:36:30,532
Speaker 4: wind wind screens as they have average wipers, makes water

1891
01:36:30,612 --> 01:36:35,612
Speaker 4: sheet off. Cheers LT good on your lt SO your life.

1892
01:36:35,692 --> 01:36:38,892
Speaker 4: If you don't have a potato RAINX rain it's just

1893
01:36:38,933 --> 01:36:42,013
Speaker 4: as good. My mate's dad, when I was growing up,

1894
01:36:42,053 --> 01:36:46,412
Speaker 4: he had an old Citron that had manual windscreen wipers,

1895
01:36:46,732 --> 01:36:48,852
Speaker 4: so if it rained, you had to move the lever

1896
01:36:48,933 --> 01:36:51,173
Speaker 4: back and forward to run the windscreen wipers. I had

1897
01:36:51,173 --> 01:36:53,372
Speaker 4: no idea that existed, so they were on so I

1898
01:36:53,412 --> 01:36:56,133
Speaker 4: did both sides. Yeah, so you're driving along with one hand,

1899
01:36:56,173 --> 01:36:58,252
Speaker 4: trying to change gears because it was an old citron.

1900
01:36:58,532 --> 01:37:01,333
Speaker 4: Someone will backed me up here and just had to

1901
01:37:01,452 --> 01:37:02,933
Speaker 4: You had to move the lever back and forth to

1902
01:37:02,973 --> 01:37:04,532
Speaker 4: run the wind screen rod.

1903
01:37:04,532 --> 01:37:06,333
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a talent. That's a lot going on.

1904
01:37:06,732 --> 01:37:09,972
Speaker 4: Yeah, you tried driving Dunedin to christ Church and pouring

1905
01:37:10,053 --> 01:37:12,012
Speaker 4: rain the wood screen.

1906
01:37:14,652 --> 01:37:16,492
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty C number to call

1907
01:37:16,572 --> 01:37:18,492
Speaker 3: get Allen, Yes.

1908
01:37:19,213 --> 01:37:21,892
Speaker 24: Just earlier on your call for preferation. A lot of

1909
01:37:21,893 --> 01:37:25,412
Speaker 24: people may need to consider if they have somebody on

1910
01:37:25,532 --> 01:37:29,932
Speaker 24: medication in their family, they should have a emergency supply

1911
01:37:30,133 --> 01:37:34,213
Speaker 24: made for them they can just grab because they're one

1912
01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:36,372
Speaker 24: of the biggest key things. You can always get food

1913
01:37:36,412 --> 01:37:39,532
Speaker 24: out of cupboards and fridges, but you need to grab

1914
01:37:39,572 --> 01:37:40,692
Speaker 24: your medication.

1915
01:37:40,372 --> 01:37:41,132
Speaker 9: While you're running.

1916
01:37:42,093 --> 01:37:45,812
Speaker 24: And bottles of water they're the most essential thing because

1917
01:37:45,812 --> 01:37:49,572
Speaker 24: you can normally find food, but finding clean pure water

1918
01:37:50,173 --> 01:37:53,572
Speaker 24: is the next critical measure. You can live on water

1919
01:37:53,692 --> 01:37:55,492
Speaker 24: alone for a couple of days.

1920
01:37:57,253 --> 01:37:59,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh exactly. What is a big one? Who

1921
01:37:59,452 --> 01:38:01,093
Speaker 3: was it that? Maybe it was you that said this

1922
01:38:01,213 --> 01:38:03,053
Speaker 3: man and I don't know if there's validity, and maybe

1923
01:38:03,053 --> 01:38:05,652
Speaker 3: I'm throwing you under the bus, but you can use

1924
01:38:05,812 --> 01:38:09,772
Speaker 3: the water in your toilet cistern as an ultimate backup

1925
01:38:09,772 --> 01:38:11,652
Speaker 3: because that's the cleaner source of water and the.

1926
01:38:12,013 --> 01:38:14,892
Speaker 4: Not from the bowl, Tyler, not from the bowl.

1927
01:38:17,532 --> 01:38:19,452
Speaker 24: A little bit of check on there, as long as

1928
01:38:19,492 --> 01:38:21,652
Speaker 24: you haven't got a cleaner up in the top.

1929
01:38:21,853 --> 01:38:24,772
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I

1930
01:38:24,772 --> 01:38:27,053
Speaker 3: mean you hear some people also allan when they when

1931
01:38:27,053 --> 01:38:30,372
Speaker 3: they know something's coming, they run the bath and and

1932
01:38:30,492 --> 01:38:32,293
Speaker 3: just have that bath water. There is a potential. I

1933
01:38:32,333 --> 01:38:34,532
Speaker 3: don't know anyone that does, but that seems like a

1934
01:38:34,572 --> 01:38:35,253
Speaker 3: decent idea.

1935
01:38:36,093 --> 01:38:38,412
Speaker 24: Yeah, you can always catch rain water outside if you've

1936
01:38:38,412 --> 01:38:41,092
Speaker 24: got something to catch them, and most people have a bucket.

1937
01:38:41,532 --> 01:38:46,253
Speaker 24: But they are the essential things medication. If the family

1938
01:38:46,372 --> 01:38:52,852
Speaker 24: members got any in some bottles of water, Yeah, I'll

1939
01:38:52,893 --> 01:38:53,612
Speaker 24: let you run there.

1940
01:38:53,652 --> 01:38:56,012
Speaker 4: I thank you for you call Ellen. Most people pushing

1941
01:38:56,093 --> 01:38:58,372
Speaker 4: back on. Hey, guys, there is absolutely an eight meter

1942
01:38:58,492 --> 01:39:02,492
Speaker 4: rule with regards to claims for equc applied here in

1943
01:39:02,532 --> 01:39:05,532
Speaker 4: my property when there was a slip here's Jason. Hey guys,

1944
01:39:05,572 --> 01:39:08,612
Speaker 4: we absolutely there, we are absolutely there is an eight

1945
01:39:08,692 --> 01:39:11,692
Speaker 4: meter rule with regards to claims to ECQ, he goes

1946
01:39:11,732 --> 01:39:14,732
Speaker 4: another person eight meter is one hundred percent correct. The

1947
01:39:14,772 --> 01:39:17,812
Speaker 4: other guy's a muppet from uk Okay. So Trent Tran

1948
01:39:17,973 --> 01:39:20,093
Speaker 4: was right, was right. The guy with fourteen years in

1949
01:39:20,173 --> 01:39:22,612
Speaker 4: the business was right over the person that just fled

1950
01:39:22,612 --> 01:39:26,093
Speaker 4: through a text with terrible grammar. Funny that. Hey, so

1951
01:39:26,093 --> 01:39:28,412
Speaker 4: that thing about medicine that Alan was talking about, how

1952
01:39:28,452 --> 01:39:29,852
Speaker 4: often is that a plot to a movie?

1953
01:39:30,053 --> 01:39:30,253
Speaker 21: Oh?

1954
01:39:30,372 --> 01:39:32,572
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was just thinking a movie the other day.

1955
01:39:32,692 --> 01:39:36,092
Speaker 4: Does anyone seen this? I think it's the recent Korean

1956
01:39:36,173 --> 01:39:39,452
Speaker 4: movie about the water the flood. So they're in an

1957
01:39:39,452 --> 01:39:41,133
Speaker 4: apartment building and there's just water coming up.

1958
01:39:41,173 --> 01:39:42,772
Speaker 3: I've seen the trailer over watched it.

1959
01:39:42,893 --> 01:39:45,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so of course the kid needs insulin. Yep.

1960
01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:47,813
Speaker 4: Same with that movie Greenland.

1961
01:39:48,093 --> 01:39:51,173
Speaker 3: Yes, it happens absolutely the time every disaster movie.

1962
01:39:51,933 --> 01:39:51,973
Speaker 7: Mo.

1963
01:39:52,572 --> 01:39:57,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is it the Brad Pitt zombie movie World

1964
01:39:57,293 --> 01:40:00,892
Speaker 4: war Z? World war Z kid needs insolin? Is there's

1965
01:40:00,973 --> 01:40:03,532
Speaker 4: never a situation in a movie where one of the

1966
01:40:03,612 --> 01:40:06,333
Speaker 4: kids doesn't need some kind of medicine That complicates the

1967
01:40:06,372 --> 01:40:10,013
Speaker 4: whole issue of pran to get everyone out safely, they

1968
01:40:10,053 --> 01:40:11,252
Speaker 4: have to go back for the medicine.

1969
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:12,493
Speaker 3: Raids on pharmacies.

1970
01:40:12,572 --> 01:40:15,333
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that's right. Heaving a dodge zombies. Yeah yeah.

1971
01:40:15,333 --> 01:40:16,652
Speaker 4: So don't just get the hell out of town. They've

1972
01:40:16,652 --> 01:40:18,253
Speaker 4: got to go through the pharmacy to get the medicine.

1973
01:40:18,333 --> 01:40:20,012
Speaker 4: Hunt for the water peoples another one.

1974
01:40:20,093 --> 01:40:24,133
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So good tip there, Allen Ian. You want

1975
01:40:24,133 --> 01:40:26,652
Speaker 3: to have a chat about trees and roots bigger pardon?

1976
01:40:27,013 --> 01:40:27,492
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.

1977
01:40:27,812 --> 01:40:29,492
Speaker 25: I was in the Mangawai Head Surf Club and we

1978
01:40:29,532 --> 01:40:31,253
Speaker 25: lost the surf club a few years ago with one

1979
01:40:31,293 --> 01:40:33,612
Speaker 25: of these big when we had all the big floods

1980
01:40:33,612 --> 01:40:36,133
Speaker 25: in Auckland. What happens with the hood car is we

1981
01:40:36,173 --> 01:40:38,572
Speaker 25: look at we need to look at reclassifying them because

1982
01:40:38,973 --> 01:40:41,412
Speaker 25: the root structure in them absorbs all the water and

1983
01:40:41,492 --> 01:40:44,612
Speaker 25: in this instance it was all white clay and the

1984
01:40:44,853 --> 01:40:47,492
Speaker 25: root structure expands and the whole mountain just fell aside.

1985
01:40:47,492 --> 01:40:49,732
Speaker 25: So you we'll probably find with what's happened down at

1986
01:40:49,772 --> 01:40:52,452
Speaker 25: the mount is that the root structures have swallowed up

1987
01:40:52,812 --> 01:40:54,932
Speaker 25: and that tree that used to hold that all side together,

1988
01:40:55,133 --> 01:40:57,372
Speaker 25: that's caused it to break down and slide on down

1989
01:40:57,372 --> 01:40:58,973
Speaker 25: the hill cause the landslide.

1990
01:40:59,093 --> 01:41:01,293
Speaker 4: So what is the best because you know, I've just

1991
01:41:01,293 --> 01:41:05,253
Speaker 4: always thought perhaps that's great holding the bank together. As

1992
01:41:05,333 --> 01:41:06,732
Speaker 4: a Trent said, you don't want it so all the

1993
01:41:06,732 --> 01:41:09,612
Speaker 4: weight's going off the edge. You want the weight of

1994
01:41:09,652 --> 01:41:12,652
Speaker 4: the tree growing back back towards the bank. If if

1995
01:41:12,692 --> 01:41:14,772
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying. So what are the goods

1996
01:41:16,933 --> 01:41:18,613
Speaker 4: to hold bank? Yeah?

1997
01:41:18,732 --> 01:41:19,852
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a true person.

1998
01:41:19,652 --> 01:41:22,213
Speaker 25: But the reality is these have you know, they're hardwood trees,

1999
01:41:22,253 --> 01:41:25,133
Speaker 25: they're very heavy trees. But the root structure, the whole

2000
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:27,692
Speaker 25: tree soaks up all the water. The root structure expands,

2001
01:41:27,732 --> 01:41:30,253
Speaker 25: it cracks the ground around them, and the ground pulls away.

2002
01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:32,852
Speaker 25: So having booter car is trying to hold cliffs together

2003
01:41:33,093 --> 01:41:35,213
Speaker 25: when they get old, isn't a good idea that we

2004
01:41:35,293 --> 01:41:36,732
Speaker 25: really need to reclassify and trim.

2005
01:41:36,572 --> 01:41:37,173
Speaker 5: A lot of them back.

2006
01:41:37,293 --> 01:41:37,532
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2007
01:41:37,572 --> 01:41:38,012
Speaker 4: Interesting?

2008
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:39,772
Speaker 3: And what actually what happened to the Sourf Club. Was

2009
01:41:39,812 --> 01:41:42,412
Speaker 3: it completely taken out or was it able to be

2010
01:41:42,492 --> 01:41:43,372
Speaker 3: rebuilt pretty quick?

2011
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:44,572
Speaker 5: No?

2012
01:41:44,572 --> 01:41:46,612
Speaker 25: No, it's I think it's three years and it ago.

2013
01:41:46,652 --> 01:41:48,333
Speaker 25: They're just about to open it now. So yeah, it's

2014
01:41:48,333 --> 01:41:51,532
Speaker 25: been massive. They've had to put plugs in the hill,

2015
01:41:51,732 --> 01:41:53,492
Speaker 25: all sorts of stuff to try and hold all together.

2016
01:41:53,612 --> 01:41:53,772
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2017
01:41:53,853 --> 01:41:55,732
Speaker 25: Yeah, and it's been been here for sixty years, so

2018
01:41:55,772 --> 01:41:59,012
Speaker 25: it's not like you know, it's the old, old, big

2019
01:41:59,053 --> 01:42:01,173
Speaker 25: old trees that are the issue.

2020
01:42:01,412 --> 01:42:03,213
Speaker 3: Yep, and you see a lot of those around Ian.

2021
01:42:03,253 --> 01:42:05,093
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for giving us a bus. Really

2022
01:42:05,133 --> 01:42:05,852
Speaker 3: interesting this.

2023
01:42:06,013 --> 01:42:10,053
Speaker 4: Texta sees poplars and willows umuppets. Okay, okay, all right,

2024
01:42:10,093 --> 01:42:14,932
Speaker 4: thank you. What about them? Straight up poplars and willows

2025
01:42:14,933 --> 01:42:18,652
Speaker 4: your muppets. I'm assuming it's related to the by question

2026
01:42:18,812 --> 01:42:20,772
Speaker 4: of what is the best trees to hold a bank together?

2027
01:42:20,853 --> 01:42:21,213
Speaker 14: All right?

2028
01:42:21,253 --> 01:42:23,813
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's quite aggressive, but thank you.

2029
01:42:23,973 --> 01:42:27,692
Speaker 4: It could be unrelated, could just be a crazy person, all.

2030
01:42:27,612 --> 01:42:29,652
Speaker 3: Right, beg very shortly when we come back, we're gonna

2031
01:42:29,652 --> 01:42:31,772
Speaker 3: have a chat to Andrew Stalt. He's a lecturer in

2032
01:42:31,853 --> 01:42:34,733
Speaker 3: geomechanical engineering from Auckland University.

2033
01:42:34,732 --> 01:42:35,812
Speaker 4: It is a quarter to four.

2034
01:42:37,013 --> 01:42:40,333
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

2035
01:42:40,412 --> 01:42:43,812
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

2036
01:42:43,812 --> 01:42:46,452
Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon, ju It is twelve to four.

2037
01:42:46,492 --> 01:42:49,813
Speaker 3: So we have been talking broadly about landslides and landslips.

2038
01:42:49,812 --> 01:42:52,093
Speaker 3: How do you assess the danger. We're keeping it away

2039
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:56,012
Speaker 3: specifically from the landslip in Mount Morganui because we don't

2040
01:42:56,053 --> 01:42:59,172
Speaker 3: have the details and obviously that recovery and rescue operation

2041
01:42:59,492 --> 01:43:03,292
Speaker 3: is underway. But to chat further broadly about landslides and landslips,

2042
01:43:03,333 --> 01:43:05,972
Speaker 3: we are joined by Andrew Stalt. He is a geo

2043
01:43:06,053 --> 01:43:09,852
Speaker 3: mechanical engineer at Auckland Universe. You see, Andrew. Very good

2044
01:43:09,893 --> 01:43:11,612
Speaker 3: afternoon to you, and thank you very much for your time.

2045
01:43:12,412 --> 01:43:13,892
Speaker 5: All Hi Tyler, thank you for having me.

2046
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:18,772
Speaker 4: Andrew. It's met here as well. How are you today? Now?

2047
01:43:18,853 --> 01:43:23,013
Speaker 4: How do you spot a bank or a cliff that

2048
01:43:23,213 --> 01:43:25,652
Speaker 4: might be about to slip.

2049
01:43:27,812 --> 01:43:30,133
Speaker 5: There's a few things, so to give it away. The

2050
01:43:30,173 --> 01:43:32,812
Speaker 5: first is, well, if you look at the slope itself,

2051
01:43:33,013 --> 01:43:35,972
Speaker 5: if it's steep thirty five degrees, pretty hard to hike up,

2052
01:43:36,572 --> 01:43:38,772
Speaker 5: that might be a slope that could be susceptible. And

2053
01:43:38,812 --> 01:43:42,293
Speaker 5: it's usually soil slopes at that and you might see

2054
01:43:42,333 --> 01:43:44,333
Speaker 5: a few things. You can look up at the slope

2055
01:43:44,412 --> 01:43:47,572
Speaker 5: and what we call a scarp, so at the top,

2056
01:43:47,732 --> 01:43:49,732
Speaker 5: if a slip is starting to happen, you might see

2057
01:43:49,772 --> 01:43:52,452
Speaker 5: evidence of cracks forming at the top of the slope

2058
01:43:52,933 --> 01:43:55,093
Speaker 5: indicating that mass is going to come down and move

2059
01:43:55,133 --> 01:43:58,572
Speaker 5: at you closer to the ground, closer to you know,

2060
01:43:58,652 --> 01:44:01,572
Speaker 5: where we might have houses, more flat ground you'll start

2061
01:44:01,572 --> 01:44:04,692
Speaker 5: to see the soil slumping. You might see if you

2062
01:44:04,732 --> 01:44:07,572
Speaker 5: have a retaining wall, it's starting to tilt more towards

2063
01:44:07,893 --> 01:44:11,372
Speaker 5: well down slope. You might see cracks forming in the

2064
01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:14,692
Speaker 5: ground at the toe or in your pavement, in your

2065
01:44:14,732 --> 01:44:16,453
Speaker 5: your your concrete backyard.

2066
01:44:16,572 --> 01:44:22,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, what role do trees play in slip prevention? We've

2067
01:44:22,093 --> 01:44:24,612
Speaker 4: been talking about this a bit today, and what are

2068
01:44:24,612 --> 01:44:26,772
Speaker 4: the best trees to stop slops?

2069
01:44:26,812 --> 01:44:30,972
Speaker 5: In New Zealand, you kind of have different two different

2070
01:44:31,093 --> 01:44:33,093
Speaker 5: types of slow failures that you're kind of worried about.

2071
01:44:33,452 --> 01:44:36,173
Speaker 5: You have the very near surface ones where the soil

2072
01:44:36,253 --> 01:44:39,333
Speaker 5: is being eroded away or carried by water as you know,

2073
01:44:39,452 --> 01:44:43,652
Speaker 5: slips along the surface, and so trees and vegetation are

2074
01:44:43,692 --> 01:44:47,252
Speaker 5: actually great at helping to hold those slopes together, preventing

2075
01:44:47,333 --> 01:44:50,652
Speaker 5: those what I would call a shallow failure. And so

2076
01:44:50,853 --> 01:44:55,372
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what specific trees would be

2077
01:44:55,412 --> 01:44:58,172
Speaker 5: the most beneficial, but you want things with really sturdy,

2078
01:44:58,253 --> 01:45:02,213
Speaker 5: strong roots. The trees will be a little bit more.

2079
01:45:02,652 --> 01:45:06,613
Speaker 5: They won't be as helpful in the more deep sleated landslides,

2080
01:45:06,692 --> 01:45:10,293
Speaker 5: the ones that sometimes you see the really deep curving

2081
01:45:10,372 --> 01:45:12,372
Speaker 5: surfaces that you might see, you know, on the roadslips

2082
01:45:12,372 --> 01:45:16,772
Speaker 5: when you're driving by, the roots aren't deep enough to

2083
01:45:17,013 --> 01:45:22,572
Speaker 5: really interact or to help stabilize that those deep seated failures.

2084
01:45:22,652 --> 01:45:27,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what role does a geotechnical engineer have and

2085
01:45:27,652 --> 01:45:29,572
Speaker 4: this whole business across the country in terms of a

2086
01:45:29,652 --> 01:45:34,932
Speaker 4: deedifying slips and installing slip prevention.

2087
01:45:36,692 --> 01:45:39,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, so your geotechnical engineer, well, they'll look for a

2088
01:45:39,293 --> 01:45:41,253
Speaker 5: few things. I'll try to figure out how strong the

2089
01:45:41,293 --> 01:45:44,412
Speaker 5: earth is. So if it's soil, they'll look at its friction,

2090
01:45:44,612 --> 01:45:48,933
Speaker 5: its strength ability to hold together. They'll look at the

2091
01:45:49,053 --> 01:45:51,772
Speaker 5: geometry of the failure. So if the slope is really steep,

2092
01:45:51,893 --> 01:45:54,133
Speaker 5: that's just something that at least when I'm even just

2093
01:45:54,173 --> 01:45:55,732
Speaker 5: driving by on the side of the road, I'll look

2094
01:45:55,772 --> 01:45:58,612
Speaker 5: and say, yeah, that's a little steep, little fuss, And

2095
01:45:58,692 --> 01:46:01,213
Speaker 5: so that's when, yeah, your geotechnical engineer will look at

2096
01:46:01,213 --> 01:46:05,612
Speaker 5: those issues. The other thing they might help do is

2097
01:46:05,893 --> 01:46:08,652
Speaker 5: if you're looking at retaining a slope or if you're

2098
01:46:08,853 --> 01:46:12,333
Speaker 5: planning on cutting a slope on your property, talking to

2099
01:46:12,372 --> 01:46:17,173
Speaker 5: a geotechnical engineer will help assess that water is a

2100
01:46:17,173 --> 01:46:19,892
Speaker 5: big thing that really drives these failures. As we all know,

2101
01:46:19,973 --> 01:46:22,933
Speaker 5: we have these rainfall events and then we suddenly have

2102
01:46:23,053 --> 01:46:26,652
Speaker 5: slips all over the country, right, Yeah, And so the

2103
01:46:26,732 --> 01:46:30,692
Speaker 5: water does two things. It's increasing the load on the slope,

2104
01:46:30,772 --> 01:46:34,333
Speaker 5: so basically the soil weighs more. The other aspect is

2105
01:46:34,372 --> 01:46:39,772
Speaker 5: that the soil partially gets its strength from friction, and

2106
01:46:39,853 --> 01:46:43,093
Speaker 5: when you add more water into the slope, it's temporarily

2107
01:46:43,213 --> 01:46:46,572
Speaker 5: kind of pushing those grains a little bit apart. And

2108
01:46:46,652 --> 01:46:49,213
Speaker 5: so geotechnical engineers, if you look at the side of

2109
01:46:49,293 --> 01:46:51,293
Speaker 5: roads when you're driving along the motorway and you see

2110
01:46:51,372 --> 01:46:54,972
Speaker 5: retaining walls, there's almost always drains installed at the bottom

2111
01:46:55,053 --> 01:46:57,213
Speaker 5: of the slope or a retaining walls. Just to help

2112
01:46:57,293 --> 01:46:58,692
Speaker 5: or believe that excess water.

2113
01:46:58,532 --> 01:47:00,132
Speaker 4: Pressure makes a lot of sense.

2114
01:47:00,253 --> 01:47:03,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Andrew, We've only got about thirty seconds left.

2115
01:47:03,213 --> 01:47:05,932
Speaker 3: But are there some good places people can go if

2116
01:47:05,973 --> 01:47:08,053
Speaker 3: they want to find some resources get some more.

2117
01:47:09,732 --> 01:47:12,612
Speaker 5: Yeah. So there's an ongoing research projects where we're trying

2118
01:47:12,612 --> 01:47:17,293
Speaker 5: to identify these landslides hazards, so Horre Terry refue Penoa

2119
01:47:17,452 --> 01:47:21,173
Speaker 5: Sliding lands program also for this general so we're looking

2120
01:47:21,173 --> 01:47:23,093
Speaker 5: at where these landslides are likely to happen in the

2121
01:47:23,133 --> 01:47:27,213
Speaker 5: face of climate change. Also, I recommend looking at Toko took.

2122
01:47:28,612 --> 01:47:31,652
Speaker 5: The Natural Hazard Commission has create advice on what to

2123
01:47:31,732 --> 01:47:34,532
Speaker 5: look for and then after a slip stability issue happens,

2124
01:47:34,572 --> 01:47:37,932
Speaker 5: what you can maybe do to help help solve your issues.

2125
01:47:38,532 --> 01:47:40,772
Speaker 3: That's brilliant. Andrew, thank you very much for your time.

2126
01:47:40,853 --> 01:47:44,213
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. That is Andrew Stoke, Geo Mechanics engineered

2127
01:47:44,213 --> 01:47:47,452
Speaker 3: at Auckland University Beatory. Shortly it is seven to four.

2128
01:47:48,293 --> 01:47:51,812
Speaker 2: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2129
01:47:52,013 --> 01:47:53,052
Speaker 2: everything in between.

2130
01:47:53,213 --> 01:47:56,133
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

2131
01:47:56,133 --> 01:47:59,532
Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon g five to six.

2132
01:47:59,652 --> 01:48:02,733
Speaker 3: Now just quickly we had the professor from Auckland University

2133
01:48:02,772 --> 01:48:05,612
Speaker 3: on who mentioned a couple of resources if you are

2134
01:48:05,612 --> 01:48:08,333
Speaker 3: interested a worried about particular landslides today are the name

2135
01:48:08,612 --> 01:48:12,812
Speaker 3: Natural Has its bottle and also the Sliding Lands Project.

2136
01:48:12,812 --> 01:48:14,293
Speaker 3: If you google those you'd be able to find some

2137
01:48:14,333 --> 01:48:15,492
Speaker 3: great resources.

2138
01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:18,732
Speaker 4: That brings us to the end of the show. The

2139
01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:21,293
Speaker 4: Great Ryan Bridges up next with all the latest on

2140
01:48:21,412 --> 01:48:24,892
Speaker 4: the tragic events at the Mount Monganui Beachside holiday Park.

2141
01:48:24,973 --> 01:48:28,053
Speaker 4: Horrible stuff. Yeah, our podcasts will be out very soon

2142
01:48:28,093 --> 01:48:30,732
Speaker 4: with all our coverage on that issue. But right now, Tyler,

2143
01:48:31,492 --> 01:48:33,892
Speaker 4: my good friend, why am I playing this song from

2144
01:48:33,933 --> 01:48:34,532
Speaker 4: the food foldo?

2145
01:48:34,612 --> 01:48:34,772
Speaker 6: Oh?

2146
01:48:34,812 --> 01:48:37,253
Speaker 3: What a brilliant choice, my hero. And it's got to

2147
01:48:37,293 --> 01:48:41,172
Speaker 3: be surely all those fantastic rescue personnel, the great Kiwis

2148
01:48:41,293 --> 01:48:43,372
Speaker 3: who have been out there over the past forty eight

2149
01:48:43,412 --> 01:48:45,892
Speaker 3: hours with incredible X of bravery.

2150
01:48:46,013 --> 01:48:48,572
Speaker 4: As Mark Mitchell said on the Showrings, you know you

2151
01:48:48,612 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 4: can't help it well up when you think about those

2152
01:48:50,333 --> 01:48:53,772
Speaker 4: heroic first responders across our great nation that run into

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