WEBVTT - The Panel: DNC, burden of alcohol stats, LGNZ 0:00:05.761 --> 0:00:09.961 You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talk SEDB. 0:00:10.321 --> 0:00:12.281 And a very good afternoon to you on Tim Beverage. 0:00:12.321 --> 0:00:14.761 Welcome to the Weekend Collective this Saturday, the twenty fourth 0:00:14.801 --> 0:00:16.361 of August. Gosh, I always say the date because it 0:00:16.441 --> 0:00:18.321 just reminds me how far through the year we're getting. 0:00:18.801 --> 0:00:21.081 Soon people will be saying, first of September, it's spring, 0:00:21.121 --> 0:00:23.001 but of course I go with the geological time of spring. 0:00:23.041 --> 0:00:25.521 But that'll be another topic for another day in September. 0:00:25.601 --> 0:00:27.881 But look well, looking forward to company through the course 0:00:27.881 --> 0:00:30.601 of the show, just looking further ahead for the one 0:00:30.641 --> 0:00:33.761 REEF Radio Show. From four o'clock, Ed McKnight's joining us 0:00:33.801 --> 0:00:35.761 to have a chat about a bunch of things. Can 0:00:35.801 --> 0:00:40.521 we bank announcing No, not sorry. We're talking about competitive 0:00:40.601 --> 0:00:42.641 rates for mortgage and haggling for a bit, haggling for 0:00:42.641 --> 0:00:44.921 a better interest rate, and where do you go and 0:00:44.961 --> 0:00:47.201 can you actually ever haggle for it? You just have 0:00:47.241 --> 0:00:49.921 to go with what the bank tells you. And from 0:00:50.041 --> 0:00:52.281 five o'clock for the Hall on a minute, I've got 0:00:52.281 --> 0:00:54.241 my here we go five o'clock we got a new guest, 0:00:54.321 --> 0:00:57.281 Kim Harvey's joining us to talk about building healthy habits 0:00:57.321 --> 0:01:00.881 and children and actually using their addiction to their phone. Well, 0:01:00.921 --> 0:01:02.361 this is not the way she's putting it. It's the way 0:01:02.401 --> 0:01:04.881 I'm putting it, using their addiction to technology to actually 0:01:04.881 --> 0:01:06.641 get them out the door, which does sound like a 0:01:06.641 --> 0:01:09.081 bit of an oxymoron. But we'll be exploring that further. 0:01:09.401 --> 0:01:11.081 I think there's something to do with setting them digital 0:01:11.161 --> 0:01:13.641 challenges on the physical front. But anyway, we'll be discussing 0:01:13.721 --> 0:01:16.641 that and that and how whether I've misdescribed that with 0:01:16.721 --> 0:01:19.601 Kim at five o'clock. But right now it is time 0:01:19.681 --> 0:01:21.761 for the panel, and my panelists a couple of us. 0:01:21.961 --> 0:01:25.081 I haven't written, really written down detailed introductory notes for 0:01:25.161 --> 0:01:28.761 these guys because they're both broadcasting legends and their own respect. 0:01:28.921 --> 0:01:33.441 And I'm going to go age before beauty. Actually, actually, 0:01:33.441 --> 0:01:35.241 you know what, I don't know who's good. 0:01:35.321 --> 0:01:39.401 Guy's gonna have to cut us in half and count 0:01:39.441 --> 0:01:39.881 the rings. 0:01:40.041 --> 0:01:41.961 Tell you what, Let's just go with the beauty first 0:01:42.001 --> 0:01:45.201 and forget the age. That's even worse too. 0:01:45.321 --> 0:01:48.641 I'll go and get that sade. You can keeping. 0:01:50.241 --> 0:01:51.961 As soon as I said that, I was like, hell, 0:01:52.201 --> 0:01:56.241 I'm going to anyway, Look, let's go talking. Yeah, I 0:01:56.281 --> 0:01:59.401 don't know. Look, the Silver Fox are broadcasting. There we go, 0:02:00.801 --> 0:02:06.081 Mark Kreisel, it's you. That's good. That's good. Moving on, 0:02:06.601 --> 0:02:08.041 how are you, Mark asked to see. 0:02:08.001 --> 0:02:11.681 Good mate, I'm good, I'm good. It feels like spring 0:02:11.681 --> 0:02:13.001 here in Auckland today. 0:02:14.401 --> 0:02:16.121 I came in a my T shirt today. 0:02:15.921 --> 0:02:18.961 For some reason, and all full respect for the rest 0:02:18.961 --> 0:02:20.801 of the country, because I don't know what the weather's like. 0:02:21.481 --> 0:02:24.161 You're so thoughtful, maybe not so good, but here in 0:02:24.161 --> 0:02:26.001 Auckland it's spring light. 0:02:26.081 --> 0:02:28.401 Well. Also, I think they're conditioning in the studio, may 0:02:28.401 --> 0:02:29.921 be a little warm as well, so that could be 0:02:29.921 --> 0:02:32.081 giving you a false sense of security, because in terms 0:02:32.121 --> 0:02:35.161 of the color of the sky, it's looking pretty wintery 0:02:35.161 --> 0:02:38.641 and gray and not particularly exciting. And you're well, you're good, 0:02:39.041 --> 0:02:43.921 you look well. Lovely to see you and. 0:02:42.321 --> 0:02:43.281 You can see people. 0:02:43.321 --> 0:02:45.961 You can guess why. I suddenly realized it was age 0:02:46.001 --> 0:02:48.641 before beauty. But here's another beauty. Here is Peter wolf 0:02:48.681 --> 0:02:51.241 Camp something of a silver Fox, but not as silver 0:02:51.601 --> 0:02:54.361 as Mark cries, or possibly I'm digging the hole as 0:02:54.401 --> 0:02:55.081 deep as I can go. 0:02:55.761 --> 0:02:58.441 How are you, Peek, I'm very well, thank you excellent. 0:02:58.481 --> 0:02:59.441 What have you been keeping up with? 0:03:00.161 --> 0:03:00.521 Actually? 0:03:00.521 --> 0:03:02.801 Funny, old well, interesting old day today. I've just come 0:03:02.841 --> 0:03:07.841 from an ordinational yours not something you do Saturday, because 0:03:07.841 --> 0:03:11.561 you are the high priest building. Young Chapy has been 0:03:11.601 --> 0:03:14.561 in the parish and he's chaplain to the school. It 0:03:14.601 --> 0:03:19.001 was ordained today as a as a Catholic priest. It's 0:03:19.081 --> 0:03:19.801 quite an event. 0:03:19.881 --> 0:03:21.561 I don't imagine it's common these days. 0:03:21.601 --> 0:03:22.961 Actually, you know, there's not a lot of them, to 0:03:22.961 --> 0:03:23.321 be fair. 0:03:23.401 --> 0:03:26.001 Chaplain as well. I like I like the word chaplain. 0:03:26.041 --> 0:03:27.801 I don't know what school. Oh yeah, it's great. 0:03:28.001 --> 0:03:29.801 I don't know why, but it seems it sort of 0:03:29.841 --> 0:03:33.321 seems priestly sounds a bit holier, but chaplain sounds like, 0:03:33.361 --> 0:03:35.161 you know, just go and catch up with the chaplain. 0:03:35.881 --> 0:03:39.001 Thirty two, thirty thirty three, something like that. 0:03:39.201 --> 0:03:41.641 Just a boy, yeah, just a boy indeed. 0:03:42.001 --> 0:03:43.201 But it was really lovely. 0:03:43.241 --> 0:03:44.161 How many people went. 0:03:44.641 --> 0:03:47.601 Oh, Saint Pat's would have been pretty full. And then 0:03:47.961 --> 0:03:51.641 you know, typically it's it's also an opportunity for effectively 0:03:51.641 --> 0:03:54.721 his brother priests together as well, So a couple of 0:03:54.721 --> 0:03:57.161 bishops and a whole bunch of priests, a whole. 0:03:57.041 --> 0:04:00.641 Bunch, oh my god, imagine that just be crazy would 0:04:01.401 --> 0:04:03.641 be getting into the communion wine just be going off. 0:04:05.201 --> 0:04:07.641 It was really lovely. So an unusual thing to do 0:04:07.681 --> 0:04:08.601 on a Sunday, but that's. 0:04:08.441 --> 0:04:09.401 What I keep forgetting. 0:04:09.401 --> 0:04:10.441 You're a good Catholic boy? 0:04:10.561 --> 0:04:13.041 Good well, well maybe but yeah. 0:04:13.401 --> 0:04:18.001 Boy, no good questionable anyway. Hey, nice Toavy on the show. Guys, right, 0:04:18.081 --> 0:04:21.241 let's let's get into it. Have you been following? Oh, Mark, 0:04:21.321 --> 0:04:22.881 of course I know the answer to this question. Have 0:04:23.001 --> 0:04:26.441 you been following this week? The Democratic I do I 0:04:26.481 --> 0:04:27.641 have in the States? 0:04:27.841 --> 0:04:31.681 Yeah? I mean, wow, man, they know how to throw 0:04:31.681 --> 0:04:34.841 a party, don't they. Those guys incredible. Like the speeches 0:04:34.921 --> 0:04:39.481 that I saw were amazing. On point, the Democrats just 0:04:40.441 --> 0:04:43.681 seem to be hitting upon the thing now of hope 0:04:44.161 --> 0:04:48.081 rather than despair, and that they're really marking themselves out 0:04:48.121 --> 0:04:50.921 against Trump, who is still you know, we're all going 0:04:51.001 --> 0:04:53.281 to die. This country's going down the toilet and only 0:04:53.321 --> 0:04:56.841 I can save it. So I'm really excited to see 0:04:56.841 --> 0:04:57.681 what comes next. 0:04:58.601 --> 0:05:01.481 Any speeches or appearances that stood out the most. 0:05:02.001 --> 0:05:08.601 Michelle Obama was amazing, amazing speaks every four years and 0:05:08.601 --> 0:05:12.321 it's a pow and apparently you know you don't want 0:05:12.321 --> 0:05:14.561 to follow her, so so her husband, who you may 0:05:14.601 --> 0:05:18.241 have heard of Barack, but he was not so keen 0:05:18.241 --> 0:05:22.401 to follow her apparently, But she was amazing. I thought 0:05:22.521 --> 0:05:26.521 Tim Waltz was pretty amazing as well. Actually Kamala was, yeah, 0:05:26.921 --> 0:05:30.081 kind of subdued compared to the other ones. Hillary was, 0:05:30.361 --> 0:05:34.121 Hillary Clinton was amazing, and actually Bill was pretty amazing 0:05:34.161 --> 0:05:36.961 as well. He very wise, kind of but lots of 0:05:36.961 --> 0:05:38.201 good little zingers in them. 0:05:38.721 --> 0:05:41.801 Yeah, enough to provoke Trump and to sort of, you know, 0:05:41.801 --> 0:05:43.801 obviously people he pretended. I think he was pretending he 0:05:43.801 --> 0:05:45.441 wasn't watching. He would have been glued to it, wouldn't. 0:05:45.481 --> 0:05:47.481 So it was interesting. I looked at the ratings for it, 0:05:47.521 --> 0:05:50.161 and the ratings were really high for people over the 0:05:50.161 --> 0:05:54.561 age of fifty five and very low for eighteen to thirty. 0:05:55.321 --> 0:05:57.601 But what I think is, and that's why they way 0:05:57.681 --> 0:06:00.481 they tailor it, those speeches are full of zingers, so 0:06:00.561 --> 0:06:03.881 people be watching clips of those singers rather than the 0:06:03.921 --> 0:06:07.121 whole thing will be those will be getting through. 0:06:07.321 --> 0:06:10.041 Well the other thing, don't I don't watch them. I 0:06:10.041 --> 0:06:12.321 don't watch the actual conference at all. I watched the 0:06:12.441 --> 0:06:16.281 late night shows because that's sort of how you get 0:06:16.321 --> 0:06:18.161 your politics news in a way, but you know where 0:06:18.161 --> 0:06:20.241 they're coming from. There's a certain slant to each one. 0:06:20.521 --> 0:06:22.801 But I just to be honest, I watched a bit 0:06:22.841 --> 0:06:26.281 of Stephen Colbert, who was in that amazing The thing 0:06:26.321 --> 0:06:27.921 that blew me away was the theater he was in. 0:06:27.961 --> 0:06:29.761 It was about four thousand people and it was this 0:06:30.081 --> 0:06:32.761 colossal theater. But Pete, what did you make of it all? 0:06:33.401 --> 0:06:35.881 I didn't get the opportunity to look at it in depth, 0:06:35.921 --> 0:06:40.081 But it is that those takeouts and watching Barack Obama 0:06:40.201 --> 0:06:43.361 come up very funny. Couple of real zingers, a couple 0:06:43.361 --> 0:06:46.241 of great One line is having a go at Trump. 0:06:47.281 --> 0:06:50.001 And I do like your comment about the sentiment of 0:06:50.081 --> 0:06:53.081 hope being there that rather than it being a really 0:06:53.121 --> 0:06:56.241 negative campaign, kind of a tearing down, it's like, okay, 0:06:56.321 --> 0:06:58.761 well you can say whatever you want and behave how 0:06:58.801 --> 0:07:02.201 you want. This is our goals, These are our aspirations, 0:07:02.201 --> 0:07:03.401 this is our dream. 0:07:03.881 --> 0:07:05.761 To be fair. They gave the Dawn a bit of 0:07:06.121 --> 0:07:06.761 a good kicking. 0:07:08.681 --> 0:07:11.641 That's funny. You know they don't like ad Hominem, but 0:07:11.681 --> 0:07:13.201 they certainly gave it to him. 0:07:13.441 --> 0:07:16.561 Michelle's old line of they go low, we go hi. 0:07:16.801 --> 0:07:17.521 She stayed low. 0:07:18.801 --> 0:07:25.121 She gave him a good pummeling in the nads. 0:07:25.401 --> 0:07:27.761 I listened to. I was listened to a podcast from 0:07:27.801 --> 0:07:31.001 some people were who were there, some Brits, and they 0:07:31.081 --> 0:07:35.281 were saying that what is extraordinary, you know we've all 0:07:35.521 --> 0:07:38.321 I'm assuming we've all been to America, was just how 0:07:38.601 --> 0:07:44.481 articulate every single speaker was that they all spoke from 0:07:44.521 --> 0:07:47.801 the heart, they told stories, they connected with their audience 0:07:48.321 --> 0:07:51.521 on a deep emotional level. And that's something that Americans 0:07:51.561 --> 0:07:54.241 do so well. You went to a national party or 0:07:54.241 --> 0:08:00.121 a Labor party coence, Honestly, I can't imagine anything. 0:07:59.761 --> 0:08:04.481 That's a pretty rough comparison the rasmatas of any American 0:08:04.521 --> 0:08:07.121 sort of or gathering versus in New Zealand do. 0:08:07.161 --> 0:08:11.001 The rhetoric so well. I've heard Winstons Peters speak incredibly 0:08:11.041 --> 0:08:15.681 well at Chunk Bear in Gallipoli and really passionately and 0:08:15.721 --> 0:08:18.521 when he fires up and he's focused in the right place, 0:08:18.561 --> 0:08:21.841 and of course David Longe was amazing. But we just 0:08:21.961 --> 0:08:24.521 don't do the oratory too well. I mean, Christopher Luxhon 0:08:24.801 --> 0:08:30.401 is a shocking speaker. Is he even recycled speeches? Remember 0:08:30.401 --> 0:08:33.321 this year and why use the same speech as he'd 0:08:33.401 --> 0:08:34.241 used the year before? 0:08:35.121 --> 0:08:39.321 Good on them? What economy. 0:08:39.361 --> 0:08:40.281 Actually in the country. 0:08:40.281 --> 0:08:43.401 A lot of maybe back to US politics. It's it's 0:08:43.441 --> 0:08:46.881 an interesting vibe because it's a celebration, but you're almost 0:08:47.121 --> 0:08:49.641 behind the scenes. You almost feel this energy of the 0:08:49.721 --> 0:08:52.521 complete relief that they're gone finally with you know, because 0:08:52.521 --> 0:08:55.361 obviously we don't need to trawl over the political corpse 0:08:55.481 --> 0:08:58.241 of Joe Biden, which is he's still present for the 0:08:58.241 --> 0:09:01.321 time being, but you know, the relief that they must feel, 0:09:01.321 --> 0:09:03.241 like apparently he's still got a he's got a bit 0:09:03.241 --> 0:09:05.761 of a beef with Nancy Pelosi about it, but she's. 0:09:05.601 --> 0:09:06.121 Get over it. 0:09:06.161 --> 0:09:06.321 Bro. 0:09:06.521 --> 0:09:09.361 Yeah, yeah, it was time to go. If he doesn't 0:09:09.361 --> 0:09:12.481 it realize it now, he never will. I was waking 0:09:12.561 --> 0:09:14.481 up every morning looking at my phone hoping for a 0:09:14.561 --> 0:09:18.121 news alert saying he'd gone and gone. One day that 0:09:18.241 --> 0:09:18.761 came through. 0:09:19.121 --> 0:09:21.921 Interesting, there's been a poll in a couple of poles 0:09:21.921 --> 0:09:24.041 in New Zealand. So Torbert Mills is done one Talbot 0:09:24.041 --> 0:09:28.521 Mills whatever, and David Farrer's Courier Research. This is about 0:09:28.561 --> 0:09:30.361 if you could vote in the election. This is poll 0:09:30.361 --> 0:09:35.281 in New Zealanders and the overall results were for David 0:09:35.321 --> 0:09:39.401 Farrer's company Harris fifty nine, Trump twenty five. I'msure seventeen 0:09:39.641 --> 0:09:42.161 Torbert Mills. Is not much difference. Harris fifty five percent, 0:09:42.161 --> 0:09:46.041 Trump twenty one percent, Unsure, wouldn't vote twenty percent. 0:09:46.121 --> 0:09:48.761 I love, wouldn't vote because we don't get a vote. 0:09:48.921 --> 0:09:51.841 Like in many ways, I often think it can't. American 0:09:51.881 --> 0:09:54.561 election is far too important to leave it to Americans 0:09:54.561 --> 0:09:56.801 to vote, because I have people. 0:09:56.641 --> 0:09:59.561 Saying to me when they on my overnight shows, like 0:09:59.641 --> 0:10:02.401 they see me as a sort of middle maybe slightly 0:10:02.521 --> 0:10:05.521 right conservative. I caught myself a social concer. I don't 0:10:05.561 --> 0:10:07.361 get ready to give a toss about labels, to be honest, 0:10:08.281 --> 0:10:10.801 but they're saying, how come you'd be a Democrats supporter? 0:10:11.121 --> 0:10:13.441 And it's like, well, the whole American system, you could 0:10:13.481 --> 0:10:17.001 easily be a center right supporter here and support Democrats. 0:10:17.001 --> 0:10:19.201 The extremes at both ends are completely bonkers. 0:10:19.201 --> 0:10:23.041 Well, Trump is Trump has taken the Republican Party just 0:10:23.721 --> 0:10:27.561 way out there to the prairies somewhere, you know, And 0:10:27.641 --> 0:10:29.841 I think you know that that means the sense that 0:10:30.001 --> 0:10:33.841 he's just fled the center essentially, and the Democrats are 0:10:33.881 --> 0:10:35.961 kind of coalescing in and around there, but you know, 0:10:36.081 --> 0:10:38.161 still a little bit shell shocked and not quite knowing 0:10:38.201 --> 0:10:40.001 how to deal with that. But I think one of 0:10:40.081 --> 0:10:41.841 the things I was reading the other day is that 0:10:42.281 --> 0:10:44.441 they're not going to respond to his attacks all the time, 0:10:44.561 --> 0:10:46.521 and that takes a lot of the window out of him. 0:10:47.041 --> 0:10:49.361 You know, he's if he's abusing them and calling them 0:10:49.441 --> 0:10:51.721 names and things like that. And I think from now 0:10:51.801 --> 0:10:53.321 on it's going to get dirty. 0:10:53.401 --> 0:10:54.041 It's going to get it. 0:10:54.041 --> 0:10:56.481 It'll be interesting to see the nasty race stuff, to 0:10:56.601 --> 0:11:00.161 be nasty stuff about Kamala being a woman. You know, 0:11:01.121 --> 0:11:03.281 he's already gone down that line of saying, well, I 0:11:03.281 --> 0:11:06.561 didn't even know she was black, which was like, yeah, 0:11:06.881 --> 0:11:08.281 well I think we can. I mean, there'll be people 0:11:08.361 --> 0:11:10.521 are listening. He'll be Trump fans who can't stand listening 0:11:10.601 --> 0:11:12.321 to us right now. But that's just the way it is. 0:11:12.401 --> 0:11:13.881 I'm not I'm not a Trump fan at all. I 0:11:13.881 --> 0:11:16.601 think he's an odious creton. But it looks like newsanders 0:11:16.641 --> 0:11:19.881 aren't no anyway. But look, it's but in terms of 0:11:19.921 --> 0:11:23.881 the showers, I tell you what politics and it is. 0:11:24.641 --> 0:11:26.561 I mean, to be honest, if I was in town, 0:11:26.681 --> 0:11:28.401 I'll be honest with you. If I was in America 0:11:28.441 --> 0:11:30.401 and there was a Trump rally, a Trump rally in town, 0:11:30.561 --> 0:11:32.961 I'd go to that, And if I was the Democrat Rallier, 0:11:33.001 --> 0:11:35.361 I'd go to that too, because it's just a couple 0:11:35.401 --> 0:11:39.401 of amazing postcards of America. I mean, who wouldn't I 0:11:39.441 --> 0:11:45.481 remember going to see a Robert Muldoon when I was 0:11:45.521 --> 0:11:51.001 a kid in New Plymouth, sneaking in but you may laugh, 0:11:51.121 --> 0:11:55.681 but it was electric, you know. The guy could really 0:11:55.721 --> 0:11:58.681 get a crowd going, you know, and in many ways. 0:11:58.441 --> 0:12:00.641 He was kind of our track. That doesn't get my 0:12:00.761 --> 0:12:03.681 opponent's much time done. 0:12:04.161 --> 0:12:04.641 I can't. 0:12:04.801 --> 0:12:07.481 That's it's just such an interesting little little jump and 0:12:07.561 --> 0:12:10.241 topic from you know, we're going to an American or 0:12:10.401 --> 0:12:13.161 a Republican or a d all that. I went to 0:12:13.241 --> 0:12:14.121 Rob Muldoon once. 0:12:15.161 --> 0:12:20.241 Peter, I certainly remember Muldoon. David Longey came to school. 0:12:20.241 --> 0:12:22.761 I think for our something that it was the local 0:12:22.841 --> 0:12:24.441 MP back in the day. 0:12:25.041 --> 0:12:27.681 I don't know, the local just doesn't compete well. 0:12:28.721 --> 0:12:32.881 LONGI was an extraordinary space and so so was Muldoon. 0:12:33.121 --> 0:12:36.281 They were They were natural politicians in many way. 0:12:36.601 --> 0:12:39.721 Excellent. Oh well, the show, it's showburs and it's going 0:12:39.761 --> 0:12:41.041 to be rolling for how many more days? 0:12:41.121 --> 0:12:46.481 Is it still November? The first Tuesday of November, the. 0:12:46.441 --> 0:12:49.881 Debates will be the next thing I'll be looking for. Well, anyway, 0:12:50.241 --> 0:12:55.841 let's move on ACC this ye ACC has released stats 0:12:55.921 --> 0:13:00.201 showing the burden of alcohol and the health system. So 0:13:00.441 --> 0:13:02.881 nine point one. I think that there's data. It's sort 0:13:02.881 --> 0:13:05.761 of In twenty eighteen, there were nine hundred deaths caused 0:13:05.801 --> 0:13:11.281 by alcohol, twenty nine thousand hospitalizations, nine point one billion 0:13:11.321 --> 0:13:14.241 dollar in harm cost. But here's the stat that absolutely 0:13:14.281 --> 0:13:18.601 blew me away. Half of that due to fetal alcohol 0:13:18.641 --> 0:13:23.081 spectrum disorder. Oh my lord, I mean, this is the 0:13:23.081 --> 0:13:28.041 problem with alcohol moderation and extremes of the extremes are devastating. 0:13:28.081 --> 0:13:31.241 I think you find if you looked deeply into our 0:13:31.761 --> 0:13:33.441 the people that are in our prisons as well, a 0:13:33.521 --> 0:13:36.881 large number of those would be people who were suffering 0:13:36.921 --> 0:13:37.921 from fetal alcohol. 0:13:39.041 --> 0:13:41.561 It's just that that's a devastating standard. 0:13:41.641 --> 0:13:45.281 Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, we know this. We 0:13:45.441 --> 0:13:50.561 know that alcohol causes immeasurable harm in our society, domestic violence, 0:13:51.001 --> 0:13:55.441 car accidents. You know, it's it's if it was brought 0:13:55.441 --> 0:13:58.001 out today, they often say it wouldn't be made legal, 0:13:58.041 --> 0:14:02.161 and you know eighty percent are drinking responsibly. But this 0:14:02.241 --> 0:14:04.441 report makes alcohol look like the new tobacco. 0:14:05.441 --> 0:14:08.881 Yeah, But the thing is there's eighty percent of people 0:14:08.961 --> 0:14:14.521 apparently drink responsibly and moderate drinking. Fine, that's the thing. 0:14:14.561 --> 0:14:17.601 That's that's the extremes, Isn't it so damaging? So even 0:14:17.641 --> 0:14:20.281 glass of pinot in the evening or charros or whatever, you. 0:14:20.401 --> 0:14:22.161 It's the really hard thing is that when we start 0:14:22.201 --> 0:14:24.161 to talk about it, you know, chances are I'm going 0:14:24.161 --> 0:14:26.321 to have a glass of wine tonight with dinner. You 0:14:26.361 --> 0:14:27.601 may well you are not. 0:14:27.681 --> 0:14:30.521 Now starts with a bottle. 0:14:32.041 --> 0:14:33.521 I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than 0:14:33.561 --> 0:14:34.601 the front or the bottom. 0:14:34.321 --> 0:14:36.241 Of Oh my god. 0:14:36.441 --> 0:14:36.641 You know. 0:14:37.681 --> 0:14:39.601 The challenge with the topic is that as soon as 0:14:39.601 --> 0:14:41.601 we get starting to talk about it, and then we 0:14:41.641 --> 0:14:43.441 look at our own behavior, and then we start to 0:14:43.481 --> 0:14:46.361 think about to some degree our own and then it 0:14:46.401 --> 0:14:48.601 becomes a sort of binary thing. It's either good or 0:14:48.641 --> 0:14:51.561 it's bad, and the temptation then is to go right, 0:14:51.601 --> 0:14:53.681 that's it. We're going to start banning it and make 0:14:53.721 --> 0:14:58.281 it more difficult to access, et cetera, et cetera. Eight moderation. 0:14:58.441 --> 0:15:01.001 That's a lot of harm caused by very few people. 0:15:01.401 --> 0:15:02.001 Just staggering. 0:15:02.041 --> 0:15:05.801 Really, I think we are too tolerant of alcohol, but 0:15:06.961 --> 0:15:09.321 we're too tolerant of bad behavior with alcohol. To me, 0:15:09.401 --> 0:15:10.921 it feels like one of those things. If you can 0:15:10.961 --> 0:15:13.321 be a responsible person, you're not going to be a dickhead. 0:15:13.361 --> 0:15:15.761 When you've had a few drinks, then fine, But as 0:15:15.761 --> 0:15:19.401 soon as you do. I remember back in my law days, 0:15:19.681 --> 0:15:22.841 it used to be a mitigating factor in crime, and 0:15:22.881 --> 0:15:24.441 I'm not sure if it still is. It's like the 0:15:24.561 --> 0:15:26.801 judgment you took a swing at something, but you're on 0:15:26.801 --> 0:15:28.561 in my client and had a drink or two. I 0:15:28.601 --> 0:15:30.361 think it should be the other way around. If you 0:15:30.401 --> 0:15:32.681 take a swing at someone because you've had a drink 0:15:32.761 --> 0:15:36.201 or two, you should be it should be an aggravating factor. 0:15:36.241 --> 0:15:38.881 And I think that's the problem, is that we tolerate 0:15:39.361 --> 0:15:42.041 dickhead behavior when people have had too much alcohol. It 0:15:42.041 --> 0:15:44.921 should be the opposite. It should be the uncoolest, most 0:15:45.001 --> 0:15:47.481 aggravating thing you can do, and we should show it. 0:15:47.481 --> 0:15:48.121 It's cultural. 0:15:48.321 --> 0:15:50.401 Do you think it's you know, in terms of like 0:15:50.521 --> 0:15:53.961 us as young men, the attitude that we see, Yeah, exactly, 0:15:54.161 --> 0:15:55.681 you know. I mean, you know, got a look in 0:15:55.721 --> 0:15:58.121 the mirror. It's not a great picture. I know that, 0:15:58.201 --> 0:16:00.561 But I look at at the young people that I 0:16:00.641 --> 0:16:04.001 associate through my son and so on. I think the 0:16:04.041 --> 0:16:07.961 attitude is changed. Like see there's some grounds it's not. 0:16:08.681 --> 0:16:11.121 Or they binge drinking with the ones who that's the binge. 0:16:11.281 --> 0:16:12.081 You know, I don't know. 0:16:13.281 --> 0:16:15.641 Much less so I mean, I've been out with police 0:16:15.681 --> 0:16:17.921 on a Friday night, just running around with the cameras 0:16:17.921 --> 0:16:21.281 seeing what their Friday night's like, and it's an absolute zoo. 0:16:21.761 --> 0:16:24.881 It's just crazy, and so much police time is wasted 0:16:25.361 --> 0:16:26.601 with drunken. 0:16:26.401 --> 0:16:29.681 Actually, here's that idea of mine and eds A if 0:16:29.681 --> 0:16:31.281 I as a politician and I brought an out of 0:16:31.321 --> 0:16:34.841 bell saying, if you are convicted of a crime, whatever penalty, 0:16:35.041 --> 0:16:37.201 you will have thirty three percent attitude. If it's if 0:16:37.241 --> 0:16:39.681 alcohol is at all a factor, would you support that? 0:16:39.721 --> 0:16:44.121 Because I reckon it's like, tell you what, here's an example. 0:16:44.801 --> 0:16:46.881 People who've got a problem with alcohol, they go to Singapore. 0:16:46.881 --> 0:16:49.521 Do you think they get in trouble when they're in Singapore? No? 0:16:49.601 --> 0:16:52.561 Because one booze is very expensive, but two because you 0:16:52.681 --> 0:16:55.521 know that you are in deep doo dooos because society 0:16:55.561 --> 0:16:56.241 doesn't tolerate. 0:16:56.281 --> 0:16:59.921 I don't know if punitive measures actually work that well. 0:16:59.961 --> 0:17:02.841 I mean I think that like drugs. This is probably 0:17:02.841 --> 0:17:05.401 more of a health issue, like if you were if 0:17:05.401 --> 0:17:07.121 you if you were getting in trouble. And I've been 0:17:07.161 --> 0:17:10.961 to the Dragon alcohol courts and they do incredible work 0:17:10.961 --> 0:17:13.281 and they make a real difference, and that's a different 0:17:13.281 --> 0:17:15.281 approach to it. I mean, I think one other thing 0:17:15.361 --> 0:17:18.761 is that like even though even in small amounts, alcohol 0:17:18.801 --> 0:17:22.361 is a carcinogen. You know, there are a bunch of 0:17:23.721 --> 0:17:26.361 cancers that were being caused by that that we probably 0:17:26.361 --> 0:17:28.561 don't even know about it at the moment, but you know, 0:17:28.641 --> 0:17:31.081 breast cancer is one and our high rate of breast 0:17:31.081 --> 0:17:33.441 cancer in this country. Is that related to how much 0:17:33.481 --> 0:17:38.041 alcohol we drink? Who knows, but you know, sometimes it's 0:17:38.081 --> 0:17:39.961 better just to acrew the lid back. 0:17:39.961 --> 0:17:42.361 Actually, it just reminds Moodels. That reminds me Pete of 0:17:42.721 --> 0:17:45.041 our Olympic coverage that every time a reporter was on 0:17:45.081 --> 0:17:46.801 there saying I'm going to go have a cheeky apparol 0:17:46.841 --> 0:17:51.481 spritsas and it sort of the drink you could mention 0:17:51.561 --> 0:17:52.841 without it seeming too naughty. 0:17:53.001 --> 0:17:55.401 And then in the morning across on. I think it 0:17:55.481 --> 0:17:58.561 is good that will can counsel thing to reduce trading hours. 0:17:58.681 --> 0:17:59.481 Yeah, our Beanngo. 0:17:59.601 --> 0:18:02.521 It seems fairly sensible, you know. I mean, if you 0:18:02.561 --> 0:18:04.441 have to go and stock up again at nine o'clock 0:18:04.481 --> 0:18:06.521 at night, probably bigger issues. 0:18:06.481 --> 0:18:06.961 To be honest. 0:18:07.001 --> 0:18:11.201 I went to we ran out of apparol. We picked 0:18:11.201 --> 0:18:12.841 that habit up when we were in Paris as well, 0:18:13.521 --> 0:18:16.001 and I thought, oh, it's too late. It's eight o'clock. 0:18:16.281 --> 0:18:18.281 We run out. Wonderful I can. And I thought it'd 0:18:18.321 --> 0:18:20.721 be too late because eight o'clock seemed like to be 0:18:20.761 --> 0:18:22.361 going out. And of course we went down the road 0:18:22.361 --> 0:18:24.121 and it's like there's a there's a bottle store now 0:18:24.161 --> 0:18:26.401 our next to the wards and still open, and like, 0:18:26.481 --> 0:18:27.681 I mean they closed before nine. 0:18:27.681 --> 0:18:30.361 They drink differently over there though, don't they know as fast? 0:18:31.041 --> 0:18:31.681 Just sippers? 0:18:31.721 --> 0:18:33.721 We're gold colors, scalars. 0:18:34.041 --> 0:18:35.921 Are you talking about are you talking in St Hele 0:18:36.121 --> 0:18:37.921 is there we're sippers or are you talking about in France? 0:18:38.201 --> 0:18:38.721 In France? 0:18:38.801 --> 0:18:40.201 Oh okay, Yeah. 0:18:40.201 --> 0:18:41.961 I went out last night. I caught up with some 0:18:42.001 --> 0:18:44.121 of my old mates, my old Sunday mates at the 0:18:44.601 --> 0:18:47.881 at the pub, and I could not believe how expensive 0:18:47.921 --> 0:18:51.201 it was, Oh my god, to buy around. I bought. 0:18:51.521 --> 0:18:55.361 I bought two drinks, yeah, a pint. 0:18:55.201 --> 0:18:57.441