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Speaker 1: International Realty Find You're one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I took the boy to the rugby game for

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Speaker 2: the first time last week. I'll tell you about that shortly.

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Speaker 2: With me on the huddle we have Stuart Nash and

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame Highlands. Okay, Nashi, we're obviously being softened up

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Speaker 2: for asset sales next term. Is it going to fly?

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Speaker 3: Sounds like it, doesn't it? And I'm completely gangsta itselves

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Speaker 3: to be honest, but I do agree with you vaned

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Speaker 3: but let's be clear, they can also experiment a little better.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if it's a state owned enterprise like land Corp,

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Speaker 3: it can be a little bit innovative and try things

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Speaker 3: little bit innovative, but also let them why because you know,

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Speaker 3: we're built on the back of the of the agriculture

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Speaker 3: and horticulture sector that we are. Some of them, our

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Speaker 3: farmers are some of the most innovative in the world.

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Speaker 3: We do it incredibly well, but we need to keep innovating.

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Speaker 3: And if the state can't lead a lot of innovation,

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Speaker 2: But Stu, you just told me our farmers are already

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Speaker 2: super innovative. So why does the state have to innovate

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Speaker 2: if the farmers are already doing it Like, if it's

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Speaker 3: Well. One of the reason a lot of them aren't crazy,

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Speaker 3: but some of them start out crazy and becomes hugely profitable.

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Speaker 3: And one of the reasons why some of our farmers

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Speaker 3: are the most profitable in the world is because the

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Speaker 3: research has been done by the state. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: fantastic collaborations between the different universities and the CRIS and

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Speaker 3: makes us hugely profitable.

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Speaker 2: Jack, everything that Stu just told me makes me want

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Speaker 2: to sell Land corpor What about you?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it good point that the one of

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Speaker 4: the benefits of state owned enterprises is that they can

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Speaker 4: serve multiple purposes. Right now, we should all expect that

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Speaker 4: they are turning profits and turning good profits, that they're

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Speaker 4: turning profits that are comparable to the private sector. But

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Speaker 4: that being said, they are in a position whereby they

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Speaker 4: can serve multiple purposes. I mean, and I suggest TV

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Speaker 4: what are the multiple purposes well reflecting New Zealand stories

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Speaker 4: Now you can argue with whether or not there's a

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Speaker 4: worthwhile purpose, but we don't need to go down that

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Speaker 4: Stuart's point, there are often multiple purposes for these state

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Speaker 4: It's my it's my opinion that actually there might be

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Speaker 4: and those cities are different to selling off a majority

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Speaker 4: stake in a State on the enterprise. But I look

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Speaker 4: next electoral term if this government's re elected. I think

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Speaker 4: if they spell it out and say, yep, we want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. Hey Stu, how do you

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Speaker 2: feel about having your photo taken when you go into

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Speaker 2: the supermarket so that they can keep the bad guys out?

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a problem with this, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: A retail crime in this country costs the industry about

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Speaker 3: two point nine billion dollars. Health and safety is huge.

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Speaker 3: I had to look at the stats on the trial

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Speaker 3: that is up north. If there was no match to

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Speaker 3: So you know, I don't have a problem with this.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't either, Jack You.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, from what I understand about the trial, I think

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Speaker 4: I think like consent is a big part of it, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: I have any issue with my face being scanned to

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. No, they should go for it, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve

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Speaker 1: extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

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Speaker 2: Back of the Huddle, Jack Tame Stuart Nashjak, what did

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Speaker 4: I honest didn't read too much and I think general

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's pretty clear that that's only

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Speaker 4: the only real, realistic path to power, three party support

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Speaker 2: There, Stu, could you explain why the Greens keep on

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Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea. Not only odd balls, but

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Speaker 3: their policies are just out of this world. They're no

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Speaker 3: longer the Green Party. You know, Jeanette fitz Simon's and

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Speaker 3: by Donald were a couple of environmentals who believed that

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Speaker 2: Doing in New Zealand first lines on our skin?

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Speaker 3: Isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Winston and Shane are really the only two that are

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Speaker 3: But but you know, you're just.

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Speaker 2: You're you're out of out of control, out of.

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Speaker 3: Control do you live in you guys with an Auckland

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it is ellectual poison.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here's my here's my random tape. I think one

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Speaker 4: They will very very likely be returned to Parliament and

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Speaker 4: But then you look at the Greens and you think, well, strategically,

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Speaker 4: that that's actually the best approach.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree that you can switch strategies in different cycles,

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Speaker 3: Right. Look, the interesting thing about this is about sixty

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Speaker 3: Hipkins must be tearing some of his hair out when

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Speaker 3: even a lot of their stuff is nutty but possibly acceptable.

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Speaker 3: But to Party Marrow, like I said, electric poison, rule

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Speaker 4: I do reckon it is possible, and I've got Nolan's

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Speaker 4: I take on this, but I do think it's possible

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Speaker 3: And ninety pearts going confidence sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: Exactly if they gave us applying confidence deal and see,

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Speaker 4: give us a couple of policies, give us appling, We'll

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Speaker 4: give you Supart confidence and we will retain the capacity

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Speaker 4: to stand outside of government and hurl stones at you

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Speaker 4: for the next three years. That would probably suit both sides.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Do you know either? What this does do is it

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Speaker 3: opens up the door for New Zealm. First, because you've

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Speaker 3: got Chris Luckton and serious Chris Lacson that Chris Lacson

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Speaker 3: is not resonating. Labor has become an urban liberal party

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Speaker 3: the people that are won around the country talking sense.

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Speaker 3: And now you've got Winston Peters. Pieter's unshackled from the

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Speaker 4: Only one problem, Stuart. They need some new blood, someone

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Speaker 4: with experience.

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Speaker 2: Someone who Jack. I feel like some like a good

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Good idea?

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