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Speaker 3: Today and Stay in the Game. We are back another week,

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Speaker 3: Elliott Smith and I see it on Monday's episode. Keep

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Speaker 3: your phone on Bewley you have because welcome back to

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Speaker 3: Rugby Direct the midweek edition.

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Speaker 2: You did you warned me. I had it on loud

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Speaker 2: and got that call yesterday and I'm not happy to

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Speaker 2: fill in any time. Elliott and chat to rugby issues

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Speaker 2: and we've geez, look at the rugby news cycle. We

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Speaker 2: were what in the studio steady six seventy odd hours ago.

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Speaker 2: And another departure at New Zealand Rugby. Scott Robinson's got

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Speaker 2: a coaching gig, obviously got super games ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's but doing It's all go, It is all go.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the news of Chris Lendrum leaving a

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Speaker 3: couple of days ago. It was announced by New Zealand Rugby.

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Speaker 3: He's been general manager of Professional Rugby and Performance most

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Speaker 3: recently that's his job title. He's had a few other

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Speaker 3: hats of similar roles at the organization, been there for

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Speaker 3: twenty years but now leaving, and they're going to take

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Speaker 3: that opportunity to reshape the High Performance program, restructure it,

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Speaker 3: rescope the High Performance Director role and it certainly sounds

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Speaker 3: to him, and it's certainly a bit of a change

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Speaker 3: Hemisphere style, maybe like just a David nusafora has overseen

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Speaker 3: real director of rugby. Well, for me that it looks

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Speaker 3: like they're wanting any coach, at least a former coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always like the way Chris Lendrin's come across

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Speaker 2: It just felt to me, though, when we factor in

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Speaker 2: all these changing parts. If we even look a little

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Speaker 2: at a Guy Caine Jury, who as of today's just

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Speaker 2: And for Chris Lendrim, he probably took a look around

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Speaker 2: the end of the year. But for me it felt

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks coach has up until now reported to

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Speaker 2: going to be changed, which I think is a necessary change.

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Speaker 2: There's such a difference these days between the professional rugby

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Speaker 2: The one thing I'd add earlier is the timing is tricky,

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Speaker 3: Indeed, we spoke on the Monday edition of Rugby Direct

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Speaker 3: It did seem slightly odd that Lucky had been linked

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Speaker 3: It sounded, you know a bit, you know, similar to

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Speaker 2: I suspect so. But it has scant consolation, isn't it

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Speaker 2: sure those offers are already streaming through and time is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, look at make his sharp appointment for them

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Speaker 3: I mean, as you mentioned, interesting as well, isn't it

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Speaker 3: on your patch. No Cody Taylor for the Crusaders this week.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Enall's at a wedding. But you know, the Crusaders,

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Speaker 3: is a big blow it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately it sounds like it's more on the minor side.

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Speaker 2: if it was a final they probably would have risked it.

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Speaker 2: Such was the jurists they are under in terms of

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Speaker 3: Force Indeed, Red's Highlanders. I think this is one of

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Speaker 2: This is a game. I was having a laugh with

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Speaker 3: There we go, all yeah, absolutely, grand Father rematch Chiefs

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Speaker 3: So you going the Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs for you and

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Speaker 3: Brumbies against the Blues. Really fascinating game in Canberra nine

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Speaker 3: Sport and iHeartRadio. Can the Brumbies get the victory against

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Speaker 3: Sydney for a few days and have landed in Canberra.

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Speaker 3: We're about to land in Canberra for this game. Fascinating game.

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Speaker 3: Look I think the Brumbies are going to go and

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Speaker 3: take another one?

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Speaker 2: What so you yeah? I do? And chanting to Stephen

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Speaker 2: Larkham on Sunday postmatch after that went over the Crusaders.

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Speaker 2: He said, one of the great things and something I

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Speaker 2: don't think he thought he'd never done. Has effectively picked

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Speaker 2: the same twenty three no injuries and I see he's

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Speaker 2: unchanged again. So they've got that continuity, they've got that confidence.

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Speaker 2: They're back at home. They beat the Blues last year

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Speaker 2: at Eden Park. I think it'll be close. The Blues

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Speaker 2: have got reason to get up that Stalton Papali's one

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Speaker 2: hundredth game. I s Curtic Glynn's listed to start. He's

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Speaker 2: back in the mix. Sam Dowry back from concussion, so

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Speaker 2: they're more or less back to full strength obviously, Sands

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Speaker 2: Boone and Barrett. But this Brumbi's team is humming, and

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Speaker 2: I suspect they're going to be pretty tricky to stop.

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Speaker 2: And as we saw, if if they can put you

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Speaker 2: So Brumby's for me three and zero.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Yeah, I'm going the same Brumbies to

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Speaker 3: round out the week here. Of course, you can follow

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Speaker 3: us in the Rugby Direct podcast Fantasy as well as

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Speaker 3: if you are that way inclined. But that'll do us

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Speaker 3: for Rugby Direct for another week. We are back on Monday, Bules,

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Speaker 3: keep your phone on. I have been assured by our

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Speaker 3: walking wounded compatriot Liam Napier that he will be back,

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Speaker 3: perhaps on Zoom. He's dealing with a broken wrist, so

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Speaker 3: but I say keep the phone on because you've probably

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Speaker 3: got more chance of answering it than Liam at this

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Speaker 3: point in time.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my thoughts out to Liam Napier. But no,

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Speaker 2: it's always good to jump in studio with your Elliott

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Speaker 2: and there's always plenty to digest in the world of rugby.

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Speaker 3: Sure as thanks to Mark Kelly for producing and thanks

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Speaker 3: to having help for us. Your book today and stay

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Speaker 3: in the game.

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