1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fyne 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,787 --> 00:00:16,747 Speaker 2: The Blues i Super Rugby champions for the first time 4 00:00:17,227 --> 00:00:18,747 Speaker 2: in twenty one years. 5 00:00:18,947 --> 00:00:23,067 Speaker 3: Dayton bolised the Chiefs sender the final forty one ten Yeah, 6 00:00:23,107 --> 00:00:25,627 Speaker 3: absolute demolition job on the Chiefs last night forty one 7 00:00:25,707 --> 00:00:29,307 Speaker 3: ten five tries to won their fifteenth win in seventeen 8 00:00:29,467 --> 00:00:32,227 Speaker 3: games this season the Blues and their first Super Rugby 9 00:00:32,307 --> 00:00:36,267 Speaker 3: title in twenty one years. Forty five game All Blacks 10 00:00:36,267 --> 00:00:39,187 Speaker 3: front rower Case Mews was part of their Blues title 11 00:00:39,187 --> 00:00:41,827 Speaker 3: winning side back in two thousand and three and he 12 00:00:41,907 --> 00:00:44,147 Speaker 3: joins us now when you won it by beating the 13 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:46,747 Speaker 3: Crusaders in two thousand and three, Case, I bet you 14 00:00:46,787 --> 00:00:48,547 Speaker 3: didn't think you'd be winning twenty one years before the 15 00:00:48,547 --> 00:00:49,387 Speaker 3: Blues won it again. 16 00:00:50,107 --> 00:00:52,787 Speaker 2: Oh no, mate, We've come close a few times and 17 00:00:53,507 --> 00:00:56,627 Speaker 2: we had our reunion last year twentieth year in the 18 00:00:56,707 --> 00:00:59,587 Speaker 2: anniversary last year. It's good catch up to see a 19 00:00:59,587 --> 00:01:02,507 Speaker 2: lot of the boys, and I'm sure we were all 20 00:01:02,707 --> 00:01:05,627 Speaker 2: all cheering on the Blues last night in that fantastic 21 00:01:05,707 --> 00:01:06,867 Speaker 2: dominant win they had. 22 00:01:07,267 --> 00:01:09,427 Speaker 3: It was dominant, Case, wasn't it. How much have you 23 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:14,507 Speaker 3: enjoyed watching Vern Cotter's forward dominated game plan really paid 24 00:01:14,547 --> 00:01:15,347 Speaker 3: dividends this year. 25 00:01:16,467 --> 00:01:18,587 Speaker 2: I've loved this soul and I think that's what they've 26 00:01:18,587 --> 00:01:21,787 Speaker 2: just been missing, that that that forward pack dominating, which 27 00:01:21,827 --> 00:01:24,547 Speaker 2: is which is what Auckland were renowned for back in 28 00:01:24,587 --> 00:01:28,067 Speaker 2: the day when you know all around Fitzpatrick, all that 29 00:01:28,147 --> 00:01:30,187 Speaker 2: ere just before us when they went up the two 30 00:01:30,267 --> 00:01:33,187 Speaker 2: Toms prior to us winning it in two thousand and three. 31 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:35,547 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they've got back to the bread 32 00:01:35,547 --> 00:01:37,827 Speaker 2: and butter. You know, they've got the biggest pack and 33 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:42,547 Speaker 2: they just feed the way last night they just dominant 34 00:01:42,587 --> 00:01:46,547 Speaker 2: in ball carrying, dominant at scrub time, and they just 35 00:01:46,587 --> 00:01:48,907 Speaker 2: set up that back line when they got close to 36 00:01:48,907 --> 00:01:52,667 Speaker 2: that the trial line, and then unleashed, unleashed these big 37 00:01:52,707 --> 00:01:57,107 Speaker 2: backs on on onto Whitekattle, onto the Chiefs. 38 00:01:57,347 --> 00:01:59,667 Speaker 3: Yeah. How much credit do we need to give vern 39 00:01:59,707 --> 00:02:01,947 Speaker 3: Cotter here for not only coming up with this game plan, 40 00:02:02,027 --> 00:02:04,147 Speaker 3: I mean, it's nothing new, but it's it's the game 41 00:02:04,147 --> 00:02:06,987 Speaker 3: plan he settled on, but then also getting them all 42 00:02:06,987 --> 00:02:09,587 Speaker 3: to buy into it for seventeen games. 43 00:02:10,307 --> 00:02:12,307 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can remember all the all the chat at 44 00:02:12,347 --> 00:02:14,507 Speaker 2: the beginning of the season where everyone's going, what's wearing 45 00:02:14,587 --> 00:02:16,627 Speaker 2: up to what's bearing up to. But I think he 46 00:02:17,067 --> 00:02:19,507 Speaker 2: had a plan and he saw a style that that 47 00:02:19,547 --> 00:02:23,067 Speaker 2: Auckland should be played, and he brought it in and 48 00:02:23,307 --> 00:02:25,107 Speaker 2: and and the big thing is given that buy and 49 00:02:25,147 --> 00:02:27,427 Speaker 2: from the players, so you know, you can have all 50 00:02:27,427 --> 00:02:29,467 Speaker 2: the all the best ideas as a coach, you don't 51 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:33,907 Speaker 2: get the players on board and lead lead to your vision, 52 00:02:34,387 --> 00:02:37,667 Speaker 2: then then you know it can it can go sideway. 53 00:02:37,747 --> 00:02:40,227 Speaker 2: But they all accepted it. They all look like they're 54 00:02:40,267 --> 00:02:42,507 Speaker 2: having great time out there. Every time I saw the 55 00:02:42,507 --> 00:02:45,107 Speaker 2: Blues play, they just knew, they knew their trade and 56 00:02:45,187 --> 00:02:47,227 Speaker 2: they knew what to do and knew how to win games. 57 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:49,987 Speaker 2: And you know, I think the loss against Cannerbury was 58 00:02:49,987 --> 00:02:52,227 Speaker 2: a really good turning point for the Blues where they 59 00:02:52,307 --> 00:02:57,067 Speaker 2: just focused on on their style and being calm and 60 00:02:57,107 --> 00:02:59,747 Speaker 2: collected and not getting too carried away with the emotion. 61 00:02:59,867 --> 00:03:02,107 Speaker 2: And you saw that last night. They didn't give up. 62 00:03:02,147 --> 00:03:04,387 Speaker 2: They just kept kept trying to get points, get down 63 00:03:04,427 --> 00:03:07,067 Speaker 2: the get down the far end and didn't know it 64 00:03:07,107 --> 00:03:08,867 Speaker 2: was it was a fantastic spectacular. 65 00:03:09,707 --> 00:03:11,507 Speaker 3: How much easier would it have been to get the buy? 66 00:03:11,587 --> 00:03:13,547 Speaker 3: And when they're doing so well, because you know, if 67 00:03:13,587 --> 00:03:16,547 Speaker 3: you if you're you're banging a drama and and your 68 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:18,907 Speaker 3: players are playing that tune and you're winning games. It 69 00:03:18,947 --> 00:03:20,387 Speaker 3: must be a heck of a lot easier than if 70 00:03:20,427 --> 00:03:23,187 Speaker 3: you're going through you know, peaks and troughs during the season. 71 00:03:23,627 --> 00:03:26,387 Speaker 2: Oh totally. I think the belief came because they were 72 00:03:26,387 --> 00:03:29,547 Speaker 2: trying things. And I don't think this team that they 73 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:33,507 Speaker 2: showed to last night, that's been building over the whole competition. 74 00:03:33,627 --> 00:03:35,827 Speaker 2: So each game they played, the confidence to play that 75 00:03:35,987 --> 00:03:39,267 Speaker 2: style got bigger, better and stronger, and the belief was there, 76 00:03:39,307 --> 00:03:43,507 Speaker 2: and you know, like that they stuck with it, and 77 00:03:43,547 --> 00:03:46,467 Speaker 2: Burne stuck with it, didn't didn't panic, he didn't change anything, 78 00:03:46,507 --> 00:03:49,907 Speaker 2: and and you got that fantastic result last night, which 79 00:03:49,987 --> 00:03:54,747 Speaker 2: was so good to see the Blues. Blues play. 80 00:03:55,307 --> 00:03:58,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Chiefs, I mean they've had a like 81 00:03:58,147 --> 00:04:00,667 Speaker 3: they had a brutal semi final against the Hurricanes last week, 82 00:04:00,667 --> 00:04:03,427 Speaker 3: played really well, lost a couple of key players. They 83 00:04:03,467 --> 00:04:05,987 Speaker 3: were just I mean, forty one ten looks looks like 84 00:04:06,067 --> 00:04:08,947 Speaker 3: a really convincing when in it was. But you know, 85 00:04:09,027 --> 00:04:10,467 Speaker 3: what did you make of the Chiefs last night? Just 86 00:04:10,467 --> 00:04:10,987 Speaker 3: outplayed But. 87 00:04:12,627 --> 00:04:15,267 Speaker 2: I just think that the Blues were just dominant. But 88 00:04:15,827 --> 00:04:20,187 Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs really really gave, gave the all. 89 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,827 Speaker 2: They just a few things didn't go their way, and 90 00:04:22,987 --> 00:04:25,747 Speaker 2: you know you do it is sapping on your on 91 00:04:25,787 --> 00:04:27,907 Speaker 2: your on your big boys when you have to tackle 92 00:04:28,427 --> 00:04:32,067 Speaker 2: all the you know, the likes of the the Auckland 93 00:04:32,507 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 2: Pack running it and then unleashing that that phenomenal backline. 94 00:04:37,507 --> 00:04:39,267 Speaker 2: I just think they didn't really get a chance to 95 00:04:39,307 --> 00:04:42,227 Speaker 2: show show what they what they really had. We saw 96 00:04:42,227 --> 00:04:48,387 Speaker 2: it last week against the Hurricanes, and it's it's a 97 00:04:48,387 --> 00:04:50,787 Speaker 2: hard one because it could have been a completely different 98 00:04:50,787 --> 00:04:53,307 Speaker 2: game if it was a dry track as well. Indeed, 99 00:04:53,387 --> 00:04:57,507 Speaker 2: but super happy that the Blues won. They deserved it 100 00:04:57,547 --> 00:05:00,267 Speaker 2: for a few years now, and and to actually win 101 00:05:00,307 --> 00:05:02,427 Speaker 2: the competition out I was just so I'm so proud 102 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:04,747 Speaker 2: of that franchise and the and the players that were 103 00:05:04,747 --> 00:05:05,187 Speaker 2: out there. 104 00:05:05,427 --> 00:05:07,187 Speaker 3: That's terrific. Just before you go, I was looking at 105 00:05:07,187 --> 00:05:09,507 Speaker 3: that two thousand and three side, man, that was some 106 00:05:09,627 --> 00:05:11,067 Speaker 3: side case that you guys had. 107 00:05:11,787 --> 00:05:14,347 Speaker 2: That was very good side. You know, that back line 108 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:18,227 Speaker 2: was lightning, you know, led by Carlos and you know, 109 00:05:18,507 --> 00:05:21,707 Speaker 2: feeding feeding the Crusaders was was was fantastic. You know, 110 00:05:21,787 --> 00:05:24,667 Speaker 2: that was the highlight of of of my rugby career. 111 00:05:25,547 --> 00:05:27,667 Speaker 2: He always have a have a battle with him, and 112 00:05:27,867 --> 00:05:31,907 Speaker 2: to win a Super twelve with Auckland was was was fantastic. 113 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,667 Speaker 3: What was I mean? I've been at a couple of 114 00:05:34,707 --> 00:05:37,187 Speaker 3: events where you and Carlos have both been on panels 115 00:05:37,387 --> 00:05:40,147 Speaker 3: speaking together. What was he like in a team environment? 116 00:05:40,227 --> 00:05:45,147 Speaker 4: Carlos Pencer very quiet but very capable like he he 117 00:05:45,747 --> 00:05:49,787 Speaker 4: you know, he's very shy or Carlos, and but when 118 00:05:50,027 --> 00:05:52,467 Speaker 4: when he got the ball in his hand, he was 119 00:05:52,507 --> 00:05:56,267 Speaker 4: the maestro and every everyone would play off him, you know, and. 120 00:05:56,267 --> 00:05:59,947 Speaker 2: He would raise raise that that that back line he'd 121 00:05:59,947 --> 00:06:02,227 Speaker 2: pulled something out of out of out of his bag 122 00:06:02,307 --> 00:06:05,747 Speaker 2: of magic tricks and he'd set that back line on fire. 123 00:06:05,867 --> 00:06:08,467 Speaker 2: And it was such a pleasure to be a front 124 00:06:08,547 --> 00:06:11,547 Speaker 2: row looking up and senior back line running running in 125 00:06:11,627 --> 00:06:14,667 Speaker 2: under the posts, and yeah, you know that if you 126 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:16,747 Speaker 2: did your job and gave them clean ball, that they 127 00:06:16,747 --> 00:06:20,347 Speaker 2: were going to do this, so you know, it's it was. 128 00:06:20,707 --> 00:06:23,147 Speaker 2: It was a pleasure playing with the Blues. Brilliant. 129 00:06:23,307 --> 00:06:25,427 Speaker 3: Hey's great to chat mate, Thanks for taking our calls 130 00:06:28,267 --> 00:06:31,307 Speaker 3: the Blues. Indeed, case case News the member of the 131 00:06:31,307 --> 00:06:34,227 Speaker 3: two thousand and three title winning side. I read this 132 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:37,507 Speaker 3: team out yesterday and it is it is some team. 133 00:06:37,707 --> 00:06:40,947 Speaker 3: Manu Milamu Muse with the front row, Ellie Williams, Angus 134 00:06:40,987 --> 00:06:44,507 Speaker 3: McDonald with the locks, Justin Collins, Dan Braid, Xavier Rushed 135 00:06:44,507 --> 00:06:47,347 Speaker 3: the Lucy's, David Gibson and Carlos Spencer, the Haves, Sam 136 00:06:47,387 --> 00:06:50,307 Speaker 3: tuy To, Poor Mills, Mulliina in the centers, Rico Gear, 137 00:06:50,507 --> 00:06:53,107 Speaker 3: Joe Rocothocko, Doug Howlett. How's that for a back three? 138 00:06:53,267 --> 00:06:56,307 Speaker 3: And then on the bench that night least tenseness or 139 00:06:56,347 --> 00:06:59,827 Speaker 3: any i e. Craig McGrath, Mossy two Elite, Brad Meeker, 140 00:06:59,867 --> 00:07:03,467 Speaker 3: Tony Woodcock, Darren Woodkim what a team? What a team? 141 00:07:03,467 --> 00:07:07,347 Speaker 3: Twenty one years on the Blues of twenty twenty four. 142 00:07:08,787 --> 00:07:13,267 Speaker 1: Emulate them for more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. 143 00:07:13,387 --> 00:07:16,667 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, 144 00:07:16,947 --> 00:07:19,027 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.