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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate Altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 2: Togs Head Beats Loved Him Today, Hot Air versus Real Art,

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Speaker 2: counts Trump and Putin Wallawe read it Will Jordan out

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Speaker 2: of Argentina. Richie Barnett on the Warriors, got some farm News,

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Speaker 2: got some health news, Got the Week with Kadie and

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Speaker 2: Tim after Right, got Richard Arnold and Murray Olds his

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Speaker 2: worst pasking Welcome to Friday. Seven minutes past six. Battle

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Speaker 2: of the dueling responsibilities is unfolding before our eyes, and

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Speaker 2: I can't work out whether it's all going to end

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Speaker 2: in Tso. On one hand, the local government minister is

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Speaker 2: off to Cabinet with his rates cap plan for councils.

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Speaker 2: Average rate rises almost ten percent, Inflation isn't It's not

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Speaker 2: good enough. They're out of control and Wellington's going to

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Speaker 2: do something about it. Good good, good good. But then

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Speaker 2: we have local water done well, the new government's replacement

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Speaker 2: for three waters. You can buddy up with a group

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Speaker 2: of councils and areas, or you can go it alone.

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Speaker 2: Gisbon District for example, has decided to go it alone.

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Speaker 2: Is that a good idea? Well not, according to internal

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Speaker 2: Affairs who've written to them having seen their plans. They've

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Speaker 2: also written to five other councils with similar ideas and gone,

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Speaker 2: you don't seem to have the capacity and wherewithal to

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Speaker 2: pull this off. So what if they're right? What if

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Speaker 2: they don't and the whole thing goes tits up? How

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Speaker 2: is it? A central government, on one hand is setting

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Speaker 2: the rules of engagement on rates for fear of things

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Speaker 2: getting out of control, yet letting counsels who their own

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Speaker 2: people are suggesting aren't up to it loose on water

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Speaker 2: infrastructure that may well end up putting them in the poorhouse.

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Speaker 2: It's that complex angsty line. I guess between freedom and control,

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Speaker 2: local and central Where is that line drawn? So if

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Speaker 2: you don't trust them on rates, is water so simple

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Speaker 2: and cheap and easy they should be fine? Then you

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Speaker 2: get to the bit about voters and local democracy. Gisbren

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Speaker 2: claimed they've consulted and the community is behind them. That

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Speaker 2: almost certainly isn't true, given the consultation will have involved

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Speaker 2: the usual handful of those actually interested, as opposed to

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Speaker 2: the vast majority who wouldn't be remotely aware or care until,

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Speaker 2: of course, it all goes wrong, at which point that

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Speaker 2: were hell to pay. So who's right central government getting

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Speaker 2: control of the out of control or letting the out

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Speaker 2: of control debbil elsewhere and going into it with a

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Speaker 2: red flag. There seems a stark inconsistency and approach from

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Speaker 2: the Capitol because both approaches can't be right.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Has Alaska ever had more attention paid to it than

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Speaker 2: this week? Putin set to go.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you about the stage we're out

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Speaker 3: of the current American administration, which, as everyone knows, is making,

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, quite energetic and sincere efforts to stop

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Speaker 3: the hostilities.

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Speaker 2: Formernito heavy whites. He's good things.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump loves just being the dominating figure on the

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Speaker 4: media stage, so he's loving it, I'm sure. But as

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Speaker 4: far as as President Putin is concerned, I take note

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Speaker 4: of the fact that he said in mutual interest of

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Speaker 4: all parties, which I think is very important.

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Speaker 2: Anna, who is Ukrainian and a refugee and somehow ended

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Speaker 2: up in Alaska, is not so up.

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Speaker 5: I hope said President Trump will be able to have

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Speaker 5: some positive influence, but I just don't know if that

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Speaker 5: will be passable.

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Speaker 6: I just have to hope they have Jim.

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Speaker 2: The other one, the Israeli financed Minister, not quite so

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Speaker 2: keen as others, like a strainer on this two state things.

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Speaker 7: Let's be fair. If a personian state is established, it'll

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Speaker 7: be a dictatorship with no human rights, no freedom and

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Speaker 7: no democracy. You'll throw homosexuals from the roof. We offer

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Speaker 7: them an economic and civic future filled with civil and

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Speaker 7: democratic rights.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of things in Britain, one the GDP

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Speaker 2: numbers came out.

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Speaker 8: The numbers are welcome and importantly GDP per person is

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Speaker 8: also up, so that means more money in the pockets

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Speaker 8: of working people.

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Speaker 3: We've got a slow in growth picture.

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Speaker 2: Now why has that happened?

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Speaker 6: That's because of what the government has done.

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Speaker 2: Then they'll both be right, I'll tell you in a moment.

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Speaker 2: And two the A labels came out for those who failed.

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Speaker 2: The reminder from the top Sixcess is just a state

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Speaker 8: If you've got what you've needed to move on to

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Speaker 8: the next step in your journey, that's fantastic. But if

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Speaker 8: you haven't, there's lots of support and advice that's available

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Speaker 8: either from your school or college, but also through UCASS

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Speaker 8: if you're considering university, through clearing, and also the National

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Speaker 8: Career Service.

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Speaker 2: Finally, also in the UK, we've got a council backtracking

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Speaker 2: on the fat tax for burial plots. This was in Wolverhampton.

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Speaker 2: The idea was to charge twenty percent extra for people

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Speaker 2: who needed a six foot wide grave rather than a

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Speaker 2: five fitter cities obcently rates thirty three percent, let's compared

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Speaker 2: to the national average of twenty five. There was of

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Speaker 2: course a big pushback. It's an extra twenty seven hundred quid.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, that back down. Interestingly does a third of

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Speaker 2: the twenty seven local authorities in the West Midlands alone

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Speaker 2: who charge more for a wide a grave. Near's the

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Speaker 2: world in ninety Yeah, those numbers they both write. Actually

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Speaker 2: the GDP. So the UK economy expanded zero point three

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Speaker 2: So the Tories are right, it is slowing, But the

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Speaker 2: Government is right it exceeded expectation. They only thought it

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Speaker 2: would be zero point one. So you can both be right.

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Speaker 2: You can do anything with numbers twelve past six.

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Speaker 9: How of my news talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Have they finally arrived? Producer prices fastest

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Speaker 2: pace of increase in more than three years. Last month

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Speaker 2: previously being flat. It's all on the tariff, so maybe

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Speaker 2: they finally landed. Fifteen past six from JMI Wealth Andrew

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Speaker 2: Kelleher Good Friday morning, Mollie, Mike, and I suppose this

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Speaker 2: tells us why so many people have left for Australia.

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Speaker 2: There are there are.

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Speaker 10: Jobs, There are jobs, interesting numbers actually, so lots of key.

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Speaker 11: He's heading across the Tasman at the moment.

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Speaker 10: And there are always many reasons, I guess, but these

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Speaker 10: healthier sort of employment prospects seem to be one of

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Speaker 10: the key drivers, you know, more job opportunities, prospects of

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Speaker 10: higher wages.

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Speaker 11: So what is the state of the AUSSI employment market?

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Speaker 10: Well, they released the numbers yesterday, the Australian Bureau of Statistics,

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Speaker 10: their unemployment rate. Mike, it fell, it's going the other

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Speaker 10: the fives now, hopefully not moving too much higher, so

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Speaker 10: employment moving a different direction across in the two places.

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Speaker 11: So their employment numbers lifted.

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Speaker 10: Twenty four and a half thousand people into jobs. That

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Speaker 10: is quite a big rebound from the previous month. These numbers,

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Speaker 10: by the way, Michael all bang on expectations. They're not

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Speaker 10: outside of expectations. But actually what's interesting here sixty and

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Speaker 10: a half thousand increase number of people increase in full

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Speaker 10: view is that the employment market is moderating and economists

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Speaker 10: other interesting number we've talked a bit about being a

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Speaker 10: tough market for young PEP people.

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Speaker 11: Here that looks like it's also the case in Australia.

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Speaker 10: The youth unemployment rate over there nine point eight percent,

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Speaker 10: now better than it was in June. It's over ten

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Speaker 10: of a momentary rethink about the future path of RBA policy.

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Speaker 10: I would say now November probably being seen as the

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Speaker 2: Vista, which you introduced us to on this program a

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Speaker 2: number of years ago. I distinctly remember it. Let me

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Speaker 2: ask you this question that they see from what I

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Speaker 2: read yesterday, they seem to be doing quite well, but

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Speaker 2: they're still losing money.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, although there's a bit of a seasonality here as well.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, let's talk about Vista Group and actually looking

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Speaker 10: at the share price that's shifted lower this week, is

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Speaker 10: down around eight and a half percent, which causes you

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Speaker 10: can look at it and actually that shift started before

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Speaker 10: the half year announcement yesterday.

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Speaker 11: So an interesting insight YEA to invest a psyche, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: As you say, we've talked about them before. They're listed

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Speaker 10: Much a global footprint, so it provides software for cinema

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Speaker 10: which seems pretty good. So cinema is not dead. Box

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Speaker 10: highlights I think have been Lelo and Stitch and Minecraft.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if you went along to those money,

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Speaker 10: issues they got here because it means they're having to

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Speaker 10: hire more people to help that trend, help transition customers

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Speaker 10: guides for full year results are probably the issue here

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Speaker 10: despite it expanding margins, despite the governmntuming client signings, and expectations.

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Speaker 10: Mike always important in terms of short term price moves.

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Speaker 11: In this case, it's weighing on their share price.

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Speaker 2: Please tell me the numbers.

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Speaker 10: the Nasdaq down twenty five points. When I looked, down

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Speaker 10: The Australian market gained point five to three percent yesterday,

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Speaker 2: The last good with Richard Arnold shortly twenty three to seven. Meantime,

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Speaker 5: It look to be honest to me that it's better

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely trees. So it continued a forestation and some

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Speaker 5: Look, things are pretty positive at the moment, yep, And

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Speaker 2: See, we had fit farmers on there yesterday, and I

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Speaker 5: No, I mean it is a real challenge property rights.

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Speaker 5: Look, we're trying to continue to engage, but at this point.

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Speaker 5: Forestry different. Yeah. Absolutely, So you know we can't we

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Speaker 2: Make domestic retail pricing of lamb is out the gate

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Speaker 2: anywhere between sixty to eighty fiber leg at the shelf.

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Speaker 2: Who can afford that for a Sunday row Steve. It's

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Speaker 2: fair point. But it's not domestic pricing. There's no mystic pricing.

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Speaker 2: It's international pricing. It's butter all over again. If you

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Speaker 2: can sell your leg internationally for X number of pounds

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Speaker 2: rex number of euros, rex number of American dollars, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to make it cheaper domestically, are you.

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Speaker 18: Six forty five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 18: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 13: Good little, very.

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Speaker 9: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good one.

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Speaker 2: Alaska is go yep.

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Speaker 19: And score a couple of successes for Rosius Putin even

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Speaker 19: before the start of this summer. Tomorrow, Putin gets to

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Speaker 19: stand alongside the American president on US soil, first time

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Speaker 19: this has occurred since Russia invaded Ukraine. The White House

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Speaker 19: says there will also be a joint news conference after

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Speaker 19: this thing with the two leaders taking part. So that's

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Speaker 19: what another point for Putin. Trump just said it a

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Speaker 19: news briefing. It's not, but yeah, it certainly looks that way.

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Speaker 19: Many will recall the Helsinki summit in twenty eighteen, when

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Speaker 19: Trump stunned a lot of people in his own team

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Speaker 19: by openly backing Putin's denial of interference in the US elections.

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Speaker 19: Trump slammed his own intelligence officials at the time and

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Speaker 19: agreed with the former KGB, and it was all pretty shocking.

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Speaker 19: How this will play out tomorrow, Well, we'll see. Trump

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Speaker 19: is jocking with the expectations. But says a Putin in

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Speaker 19: a Fox radio interview today.

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Speaker 12: I believe now he's convinced that he's going to make

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Speaker 12: a deal.

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Speaker 20: He's going to make a feel.

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Speaker 12: I think he's going to and.

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Speaker 20: We're going to find out. I'm going to know very quickly.

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Speaker 2: But there is a twenty five percent.

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Speaker 20: Chance that this meeting.

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Speaker 3: Will not be a successful meeting.

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Speaker 19: Well, it would be great if it is. But again

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Speaker 19: Putin is playing the game and praising Trump. He is

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Speaker 19: Putin through a translator.

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Speaker 7: This American administration, which, as everyone knows, is making, my opinion,

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Speaker 7: quite energetic and sincere efforts to stop the hostilities.

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Speaker 19: Trump is making sincere and energy efforts for peace, says Putin. Well,

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Speaker 19: Trump now is suggesting that there might be a second

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Speaker 19: meeting with Putin, and that perhaps Ukraine Zelensky could join

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Speaker 19: in this time.

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Speaker 12: The second meeting is going to be very, very important.

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Speaker 7: This meeting sets up it's like a chess game.

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Speaker 19: This meeting sets up the second meeting. But there have

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Speaker 19: been no Ukraine compromises by Russia that we've heard of

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Speaker 19: Russia wants to add other items to the gender as

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Speaker 19: well of Russians to tossing in things like nuclear weapons

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Speaker 19: limitations and economic relations. Former US Ambassador to Ukraine Steve

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Speaker 19: Pifer says there is a need, certainly for nuclear weapons

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Speaker 19: progress right now.

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Speaker 16: The new Strategic Arms Reductions Treaty which are signed back

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Speaker 16: in twenty ten, it expires twenty twenty six, but that

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Speaker 16: truty has been suspended at least in terms of observance

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Speaker 16: of the verification measures, first by Russia and then Russia.

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Speaker 16: When Russia did not restore observants of those measures, then

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Speaker 16: the United States also.

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Speaker 19: So if they could do something about that, it would

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Speaker 19: certainly be a plus. However, if the only thing that

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Speaker 19: comes from this is Russia being well closer into the fold,

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Speaker 19: or if Trump was signed on to any Russian calls

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Speaker 19: on US dealings with Ukraine, it would certainly worsen the

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Speaker 19: war and widen the rift with the Europeans.

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Speaker 2: I found these numbers fascinating, Richard, I mean, was it

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Speaker 2: fifty four? I think? I mean, it's incredible how few

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Speaker 2: people drink alcohol compared to who speak in these days,

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Speaker 2: isn't it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: I find it compelling too. I've got to say, I

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Speaker 19: don't see this around being in the folks. I know, Mike,

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Speaker 19: there's still a lot of boozing that goes on. But

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Speaker 19: are you Gallup Polk confirms what you've just been saying

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Speaker 19: that alcohol has hit a new low in this country.

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Speaker 19: Just fifty four percent of Americans saying they drink alcohol.

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Speaker 19: That's one point below the previous record low, which was

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Speaker 19: set in nineteen fifty eight. Don't know why that was

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Speaker 19: the year, so why Well, it's largely in these health studies,

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Speaker 19: so they say, plus the new products and trends. You

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Speaker 19: think of low alcohol beer and mocktails of cocktails, although

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Speaker 19: margarite are still pretty done popular in as part of Gallifornia.

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Speaker 19: You got to tell you the change in drinking habits

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Speaker 19: is most apparent among younger people. Two thirds of young

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Speaker 19: folks say they think drinking, even in moderation is harmful.

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Speaker 19: Then we have societal changes like dry January or sober

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Speaker 19: October and all that stuff. Gallops also suggests that people

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Speaker 19: are not replacing alcohol with other drugs like marijuana. My

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Speaker 19: use has been fairly steady through the years, so big

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Speaker 19: change from when I was a kid. Got to say,

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Speaker 19: when I first started immediate one went at a pub

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Speaker 19: for lunch, most drank experience, and if you even asked

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Speaker 19: for wine, well, folks would think you were gay.

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Speaker 2: Richard arnoldback on Monday, by the way, speaking of drinks,

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Speaker 2: the Bureau of Labor Statistics in that part of the world,

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Speaker 2: coffee is up fourteen point five percent. It is going

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Speaker 2: up so fast. They were talking to somebody at Bethney's

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Speaker 2: coffee shop in Nebraska who's only put their coffee prices

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Speaker 2: up three percent because they're waiting for their new menus

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Speaker 2: to be printed. Because the price has changed so quickly

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Speaker 2: they can't the printers can't.

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Speaker 11: Keep up with it.

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Speaker 2: So that's the tariffs once again for you, E J.

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Speaker 2: And Tony. By the way, who's the bloke that Trump

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Speaker 2: nominated the other day for the Labor Statistics Department. He's

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Speaker 2: not actually qualified for the job. It turns out God

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Speaker 2: is a doctorate five years ago, no publications or citations

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Speaker 2: of note, no experience with large public surveys, no research

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Speaker 2: about survey methodology, no history of managing large organizations. There's

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Speaker 2: two thousand people in the Bureau, so we'll see how

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Speaker 2: he got out the qualified as RFK to be the result.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're pointing out in the article is like

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Speaker 2: and he's just another completely unqualified a point the Spirit Airlines,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I told you about what do I

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Speaker 2: tell you about? Was that AOL's turning off this week.

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Speaker 2: I told you about Kodek about to go bust. Spirit

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Speaker 2: Airlines as announced overnight they're probably not going to make

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Speaker 2: it either. So it's a lot falling over Stateside at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 1: Ten away from seven the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a

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Speaker 1: Vita Retirement Communities News Togsdad been.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, there's a very pleased to read in the

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Speaker 2: Australian media this week, while there's a lot of negativity

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Speaker 2: around the media here in this country at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Tuck is the CEO and editor of Dish. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you're into your food, you might know the Dish magazine.

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Speaker 2: Of course, twenty one years she's looking at an aggress

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Speaker 2: they call it an aggressive expansion. She's moving into the

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Speaker 2: Australian market and it goes, as they said, quite rightly,

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Speaker 2: against the prevailing wisdom that print is fading. So the

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Speaker 2: Dish magazine is going to be available across Australia through Cole's, Woolworth's,

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Speaker 2: Richie's IgA Are they're going to ship six thousand copies

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Speaker 2: to supermarkets to for the one thousand ear mark for

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Speaker 2: the subscribers. Expects the numbers to grow quickly, so that's bullish.

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Speaker 2: Comes as a result of Delicious magazine being discontinued, so

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Speaker 2: that's enco So one door closes, another one opens. Previously

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Speaker 2: been available in Australia very limited though through direct mail order.

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Speaker 2: But the current Australian audience is made up of twenty

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Speaker 2: percent xpat so you go where the expats are, of course.

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Speaker 2: So I wish you're all the very best. And there's

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Speaker 2: a good News New Zealand media story, and boy do

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Speaker 2: we need some of those morning mate. I trust you

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Speaker 2: to ask him. And he's got the Suzuki running ten

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Speaker 2: dollars to the charity of your choice. And it wasn't

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Speaker 2: the alternator. Well that's good because the charity will be

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Speaker 2: ten dollars better because it wasn't the alternator he told

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Speaker 2: me last Friday. Turns out to beat the transponder, mind you,

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Speaker 2: he made I don't know he knows one end of

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Speaker 2: a Suzuki to the other. So let's let's say it

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Speaker 2: was the transponder five away from seven for the ins

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Speaker 2: and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now back to America Social Security. Guess what turns ninety today?

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Speaker 2: Ninety Social Security? It's the additios out of the retirement,

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Speaker 2: the disability, the survivor benefits. Anyway, it's got problems. Got

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Speaker 2: a new report revealing basically that the two main trust

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Speaker 2: funds are projected to reach in solvency by Q one

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. So we're running out of time.

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Speaker 2: Big part of that is because it's the same old business.

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Speaker 2: It's the worker to retire his ratio. So you go

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Speaker 2: back to the fifties, nineteen fifty, every retiree in America

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Speaker 2: were supported by sixteen and a half workers. Now that

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Speaker 2: dropped to three point three workers in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Latest data which is from twenty thirteen, which says probably

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Speaker 2: something about their ability to produce stats. Twenty thirteen Is

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Speaker 2: that right? Really a serious? I mean, okay, anyway, it's

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Speaker 2: down to two point eight. So in just sixty years,

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Speaker 2: it's gone from sixteen point five to two point eight.

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Speaker 2: It will be less now. Obviously, if the two trust

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Speaker 2: funds go bust, it'll mean an estimate of twenty four

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Speaker 2: percent benefit cut on average. So to avoid that, taxes

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Speaker 2: are going to need to go up. There's no alternative.

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Speaker 2: According to the report, You've got to put the taxes up.

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Speaker 2: So the thing around the world, isn't it. The election

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Speaker 2: campaign of next year in this country is going to

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Speaker 2: be fought on that. Chip's going to be there with

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Speaker 2: the CGI and the world tax. Rachel Reeves has got

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Speaker 2: any number of problems around tax at the miment. She's

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Speaker 2: got a budge coming up later this year which she

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Speaker 2: is going to have to break to the British public

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Speaker 2: that despite the fact she said taxes weren't going up,

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Speaker 2: they will be anyway. Congress is going to need to

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Speaker 2: raise payroll taxes by three point sixty five percent, an

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Speaker 2: increase from twelve point four to sixteen point oh five.

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Speaker 2: So that's a payroll tax, which is different to the

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Speaker 2: federal tax, which is different for state tax, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So what does that look like. It means someone who

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Speaker 2: enters the workforce at twenty two on the average wage

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Speaker 2: would see their lifetime earnings drop by over one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty six thousand dollars. Thanks very much for coming.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, we remind you what Australia said the other

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Speaker 2: day with their twelve percent from their super For the

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Speaker 2: first time ever, a person entering the workforce today on

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Speaker 2: an average wage for their life is going to be

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Speaker 2: able to retire comfortably. And there are not clearly many

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Speaker 2: countries who can say that, which is good. So Alaska,

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow our time, Trump putin what comes out of it?

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Speaker 2: We have a look at this, and Will Jordan's going

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Speaker 2: to be joining us out of Argentina. Who is going

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Speaker 2: to put down the Melbeck and stop eating the state?

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Speaker 2: And tell us whether they can do it.

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Speaker 9: This weekend.

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Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between, the Mike Hoskin Break

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Speaker 1: best with Rainthrover leading by example, News Talk dead seven

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Speaker 1: past seven.

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Speaker 2: So tomorrow our time, a week or so is worth

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Speaker 2: of hype plays out in Alaska. Trump and Putent in

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Speaker 2: a room. Does the war end? Does anything actually happen?

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Speaker 2: Here's the expectation.

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Speaker 20: I'm going to let them negotiate their deal. I'm not

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Speaker 20: going to negotiate the deal. I'm going to let them

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Speaker 20: negotiate their deal. So we're going to be calling President

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Speaker 20: Zelenski if it's a good meeting. If it's a bad meeting,

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Speaker 20: I'm not calling anybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm going home.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Schmid is the director of the International Affairs Program

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Speaker 2: at the University of New Haven. Back with Us, Matthew,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Sure short of an agreement to meet again, are you

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Speaker 2: hopeful that anything more tangible than that comes out of us?

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Look, there's a lot of movement in Ukrainian public opinion

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Speaker 21: right now to really find some way to stop the bleeding.

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Speaker 21: But they're not willing to give away everything in order

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Speaker 21: to get there, and they're not willing to be humiliated

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Speaker 21: for it. And so if Trump can navigate that pathway

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Speaker 21: and then there's something here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So do you see Putin and Zelensky in a

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Speaker 2: room within the next month. I think it's possible.

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Speaker 21: I'll be like Trump, I'll say, I don't know, twenty

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Speaker 21: five percent chance it's possible.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: That's moving pretty quick yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the giving up land thing, I just don't see

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Speaker 2: how Ukraine does that end. Save spice. Is that possible?

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Speaker 21: So there's two ways to look at this. Ukraine has

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Speaker 21: said for a while now that they would be willing

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Speaker 21: to accede to the facts on the ground, you know,

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Speaker 21: more or less, they don't want to give Russia the

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Speaker 21: whole province if it hasn't taken the whole province and

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Speaker 21: that sort of thing, but they do not want to

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Speaker 21: give up legal claim to the territory, particularly Crimea. So

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Speaker 21: they want to hold on to the idea that years

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Speaker 21: down the road they can they can say this is

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Speaker 21: still Ukrainian territory was taken from and it's de facto

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Speaker 21: been in Russian territory for ten years or twenty years,

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Speaker 21: but legally it still ours and they want to maintain

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Speaker 21: that position.

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Speaker 3: Russia wants to break them of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is that a win for Russia? That unfolds that?

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Speaker 21: Why, it is a win for Russia if they can

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Speaker 21: hold on to the territory right because you know, possession

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Speaker 21: is ninety percent of the law.

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Speaker 2: Ron So having said that, when the inside that happens,

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Speaker 2: where does Europe stand, Because that's the narrative that will

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Speaker 2: be he's not stopping there and he's coming out. Why

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Speaker 2: is that real?

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Speaker 21: Well, first of all, Mertz has said specifically he's back

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Speaker 21: to Ukraine on this that Ukraine's not going to give

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Speaker 21: up legal claim to this territory, so that, you know,

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Speaker 21: seems to be Europe's position overall.

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Speaker 2: And then of course.

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Speaker 21: Europe has been gearing up now for a year two

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Speaker 21: years now for you know, the next phase of this,

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Speaker 21: right for World War four if it were, and it's

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Speaker 21: all based on Russia's threat to the EU. You've got

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Speaker 21: the European Defense Fund which was just passed. There's real

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Speaker 21: money now, hundreds of billions of dollars that are are

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Speaker 21: being allocated and in the process of being spent in

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Speaker 21: order to essentially create a European defense force, you know,

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Speaker 21: with or without NATO, all aimed at Russia.

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Speaker 2: What I found sort of interesting, Matthew, is that he

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Speaker 2: was at the Kennedy sent of Trump yesterday and he

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Speaker 2: was outlining he said five, but I think it's six.

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Speaker 2: The walls he solved is he suddenly beck as a globalist.

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Speaker 2: So I thought he was a lo isolationless. What's he doing?

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Speaker 3: Indeed, that's the question, what is he doing.

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Speaker 21: He's a He's a Trumpist, which is a globalist when

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Speaker 21: he wants to be in an isolationist when it when

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Speaker 21: it matters to him, right when it's the best position

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Speaker 21: he's in.

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Speaker 16: This.

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Speaker 21: He really does want to stop the war. He really

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Speaker 21: is uncomfortable with wars, with killing with violence. I think

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Speaker 21: if you look at his history and his past comments,

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Speaker 21: but he wants credit more than he wants anything else.

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Speaker 21: He's not interested in a stable, long term just negotiation

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Speaker 21: that leads to a just and stable long term piece.

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Speaker 2: He just wants to stop it now so he.

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Speaker 3: Can get credit.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, yeah, I wonder if he wants a no

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Speaker 2: bell if he gets Russia and Ukraine stopped, is that

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Speaker 2: Nobel Prize territory.

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Speaker 3: I think it has to be considered.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely nice to talk to you as always. Matthew Schmidt,

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Speaker 2: who's out of the New Haven University with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven minutes past seven past home are reported from

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Speaker 2: the Ministerial Advisory Group on Organized Crime. So this time

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Speaker 2: they're calling for more effective data sharing. Essentially, the constraints

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Speaker 2: around information sharing is hindering government agencies in responding to

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Speaker 2: organized crime. Where have we heard that before? Steve Simon

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Speaker 2: is the chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group, of course,

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Speaker 2: and his back with us. Steve, morning to you, Good

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Speaker 2: morning mate. That whole sharing of information thing. I've been

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Speaker 2: dealing with that for four decades in the media. Every

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Speaker 2: time there's a report out somebody is not talking to

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Speaker 2: somebody else. Has any Has that surprised you and has

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Speaker 2: anything changed?

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Speaker 6: No, it hasn't surprised me. Much like yourself. I think

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Speaker 6: I've been a prosecutor for twenty years and I think

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Speaker 6: it's been the bane of our existence that entire time.

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Speaker 6: If anything, I think it's probably got worse as coverment

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Speaker 6: agencies have become more silo and they've become more risk adverse.

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Speaker 2: So is it attitude, is it the law therefore you're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to or is it technical.

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Speaker 13: Or all of that.

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Speaker 7: It's all of it.

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Speaker 6: I think it starts though, with culture, Mike. I think

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Speaker 6: your point of it's been this consistent problem over the years,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's what that's driving, is this culture

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Speaker 6: of if I don't share, I can't get I won't

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Speaker 6: get in trouble. If I do share, I might get

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Speaker 6: in trouble. So you can see which option people are

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Speaker 6: usually choosing.

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Speaker 2: So you're talking about privacy settings when it comes to

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Speaker 2: sharing of information and stuff. Are we a bit freaked

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Speaker 2: out about privacy settings? Does the government have a real

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Speaker 2: issue around this, or do we need to make some

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Speaker 2: sort of bold step if we want to get serious

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Speaker 2: about what you're looking at.

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Speaker 6: I think we need to say bold steps if we

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Speaker 6: want to tackle organize crime. What we're seeing is organized

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Speaker 6: crime is just that it's organized. It is using technology,

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Speaker 6: it is using untraceable apps, it's using big data, it's

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Speaker 6: doing things we are not, and we need to have

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Speaker 6: a conversation with Yes, we are keen to balance the

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Speaker 6: rights to privacy, but we also need to balance that

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Speaker 6: against our need to tackle this organized crime problem before

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Speaker 6: it gets worse.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, are you getting good feedback from the government? Are

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Speaker 2: you seeing some results of your work so far?

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Speaker 6: Yes, we are. I mean we're seeing a huge amount

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Speaker 6: of support from the government agencies we've been speaking to,

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Speaker 6: whether that be police and Corrections and Customs and all

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Speaker 6: of those big agencies. This work they'll work about. Sharing

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Speaker 6: of information is probably the least sexy part of the

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Speaker 6: work that we're doing, but it's probably some of the

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Speaker 6: most important stuff because it's taking the information that is

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Speaker 6: already available to law enforcement but making sure it gets

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Speaker 6: the right place to be used lawfully to target organised crime.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Keep up the good work and we'll talk again.

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Speaker 2: Certain Steve Simon, chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group on

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Speaker 2: Organized Crime, as reading Andrew John's PCs done Sidney Morning Herald,

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Speaker 2: he had the Panthers over the Storm by two, so

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Speaker 2: he was wrong, obviously, but bring up the Warriors and

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Speaker 2: we need to talk about them in a moment with

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Speaker 2: Richie Barnett thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Like asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: By News talks.

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Speaker 2: At b Well Jordan out of Argentina for shortly on

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Speaker 2: the program sixteen past seven, are so back home tonight

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Speaker 2: for the Warriors? Of course, Dragons Penrith as a mentro

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Speaker 2: department to go before the break. They lost last night,

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Speaker 2: so that means if we win tonight, we locked from them,

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Speaker 2: we're back in the top four. Win also means we've

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Speaker 2: got a playoff. Locke apparently lost means we could fall

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Speaker 2: as low as seven, but that's just sports journalists being negative.

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Speaker 2: I'm known to that. Richie Barnett's former Keewis captain, of course,

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Speaker 2: is back with us on the program, Richie Morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: See in a way, if we can't beat the Dragons,

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Speaker 2: that would be four in a row. And we don't

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Speaker 2: really deserve to be anywhere, do we. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: can't keep losing.

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Speaker 12: We've been saying that for the last couple of weeks seven.

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Speaker 12: We really to be honest, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 12: with the injuries, the injury crisis that we've seen, you know,

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Speaker 12: the I guess, the combinations, that the chemistry between players,

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Speaker 12: I think that's really who good taale this season. But

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Speaker 12: they need to get it back and this is a

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Speaker 12: perfect opportunity against the Dragon side that's just starting to

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Speaker 12: edge their way through. They haven't been all that bad

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Speaker 12: this year as well, so I've got a lot of

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Speaker 12: grunt and a lot of threat there. The Warriors just

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Speaker 12: got to bring their old game back, their discipline, their aggression,

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Speaker 12: and they need to play a bit of more football.

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Speaker 2: You use the word crisis, so that's what you would

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Speaker 2: equate the injuries too. So this is major as opposed

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Speaker 2: to just a few problems.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I just think it's just quality players out of

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Speaker 12: the system and it's just difficult for the structure, particularly

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Speaker 12: in defense and the style of play they want to play.

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Speaker 12: It's happened that Dragons have also had the same issue

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Speaker 12: this year as well, and they start to climb. You know,

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Speaker 12: at the end of the season you want a general

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Speaker 12: health bill of the side and the Warriors hopefully start

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Speaker 12: to hit some consistency in their players and that'll certainly help.

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Speaker 2: Can they will webe be talking to them about the

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Speaker 2: three and around the psychology of that and don't let

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Speaker 2: that weigh you down.

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Speaker 12: I think they wouldn't be talking so much about that,

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Speaker 12: be talking about their role as each player, each individual

848
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Speaker 12: player playing to their best. They can possibly stick to

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Speaker 12: the plan of course and highlight and identify their strengths

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Speaker 12: and make sure that these players around it. You know,

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Speaker 12: Gutho's an amazing player. Can Tonguy is incredible the way

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Speaker 12: he shapes. They play a lot on the left lately.

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Speaker 12: In the last month of football eideen of their tries

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Speaker 12: are scored, eleven of them on the left hand side,

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Speaker 12: so predominantly that's where the Warriors are having trouble. So

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Speaker 12: they're running at a dumby half more than ever in

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Speaker 12: the last five weeks. So Cook is an amazing runner

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Speaker 12: of the ball. So they just have to go out

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Speaker 12: with their old defense. We're seeing what the blueprint has

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Speaker 12: been for the Warriors. That's really aggressive. Their kick Chaser's

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Speaker 12: got to be on form. They've got to really nail

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Speaker 12: them down there and make it real hard and suffocate

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Speaker 12: them as much as they can. And I think that's

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Speaker 12: the recipe with its success. But I also think they

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Speaker 12: need to start expanding the way they play and show creativity.

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Speaker 12: Weigh Eagan or give that creativity. They just need to

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Speaker 12: roll on the back of it. End heally on the back.

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Speaker 12: He's such a creator and a fearless player. What time

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Speaker 12: they bring him into the game will be important as well.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. I love the way you talk. You're building up

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Speaker 2: a head of steam there. Richie Barnett former Kiev's captain

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Speaker 2: of course, and with Skysport these days, so it's an

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Speaker 2: Time now to mark the week. The little piece of

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Speaker 2: not more bright spots. Yes, I'm sorry. The good news

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Speaker 2: trainers full today. Two thirds of our exporters are still

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Speaker 2: banking the checks and growing their books. Palestine's recognition as

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Speaker 2: Is anyone's sad about Google being broken up? America's couped

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Speaker 2: six a bunch of stuff I like. Could be a

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Speaker 2: new era with less bitching. And I'd welcome that the

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Speaker 2: We should treasure classics. I reckon Kodak too. Wha wha,

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Speaker 2: Warrior sex if still the eight? Possibly the four as

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Speaker 2: you've just heard, is it the title? Is it the title?

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Speaker 9: No? Yes, think so?

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Speaker 2: Mystery Meat three? What idiot thought of that? Dern and

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Speaker 2: her hench people?

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Speaker 9: Zero.

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Speaker 12: If you've got questions about the COVID response, fire away.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else it is to say when

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Speaker 2: you've sunk that low more for us. I can only

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Speaker 2: imagine what the fifty percent of voters who wanted to

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Speaker 2: chunk of that arrogance in twenty twenty think now. And

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Speaker 2: that is the week copies on the website, And if

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Speaker 2: very own marking the week high Ver's vest tasking congratulations

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Speaker 2: to Audrey Young And I know I say that periodically,

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Speaker 2: but we love Audrey for goodness sake. She sums it

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Speaker 2: up beautifully yesterday in her weekly note. Palestine debate brings

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Speaker 2: out the best in Christo b Lux and the worst,

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Speaker 2: and Chloe Swarbricks sums it up perfect. It wasn't for

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Speaker 2: Hipkins and his disaster yesterday, she'd be, unfortunately, the clickbait

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Speaker 2: story of the week. Chloe Swarbrick's action ensures the focus

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Speaker 2: turned to her. It wouldn't, write Audrey, writes, Audrey be

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Speaker 2: so ironic if she hadn't used her speech to the

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Speaker 2: Greens AGM last Sunday to rail against politics that is

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Speaker 2: designed to outrage ah quote unquote. It gets headlines, it

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Speaker 2: gets cut through, It sucks up the oxygen and depletes

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Speaker 2: the energy necessary to focus on the bigger picture. It

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Speaker 2: benefits the multi multi multi millionaire and billionaires and their

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Speaker 2: puppet politicians. All of this is designed to deflect, distract,

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Speaker 2: and divide. She said. Of course, writes Audrey, she was

961
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Speaker 2: talking about other politicians, not herself in her self centered world.

962
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Speaker 2: It's only others that deflect, distract and divide. Couldn't have

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Speaker 2: summed it up there, well, Jordan, I've got two out

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Speaker 2: of two. Glenn's got a one out of one. I

965
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Speaker 2: think there's a one at one apiece. I think you've

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Speaker 2: got one apiece, one one in piece in Argentina. Sammy,

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Speaker 2: what's Sammy? It's the rugby Sambie. He's got two for us,

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Speaker 2: two for us. Okay, So we'll talk to Will Jordan

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Speaker 2: see what's going on in that particular part.

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Speaker 9: Of the world.

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Speaker 2: And healthcare we look at before eight o'clock as well,

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Speaker 2: the robotics industry in terms of surgery booming. Got some

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Speaker 2: new stats on that in the amount of robotics that

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Speaker 2: is involved in public and private these days intimidating with

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Speaker 2: the week after Great of course being their Friday morning

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Speaker 2: meantime News is Next Your Abuse Talk.

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Speaker 2: the teacher's salaries, and to claim on this program yesterday

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Speaker 2: a moment meantime and twenty three to eight. Back to

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Speaker 2: the International rugby this weekend, having dispense with the French,

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Speaker 2: it is the Rugby Championship, our first crack on foreign soil.

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Speaker 2: The Australians will face South Africa and Jayburg. The All

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Speaker 2: Blacks of course, are with the Argies. Will Jordan is

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Speaker 2: with us. Good morning to you, Mike, now, given it's

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Speaker 2: been a while since we caught up a couple of

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Speaker 2: things the season for you so far, the French, the

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Speaker 2: vibe around the side, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, if it built into the French series, well we're

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Speaker 20: able to kind of give everyone and go truck in

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Speaker 20: that last game. So I think for ust it was

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Speaker 20: just at of a good scene set around fortune, a

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Speaker 20: bit of an identity around how I wanted to play,

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Speaker 20: didn't always put the execute way I wanted too, but

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Speaker 20: nice to get the three no result and they are

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Speaker 20: in strugby Championship, which promises to be a bit of

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Speaker 20: a step up and pretty challenging, so you hope we

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Speaker 20: can start to do it on that momentum.

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Speaker 2: Good, So fast forward now to Argentina, the trip, you're away,

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Speaker 2: You've got jet leg, your training house, all that gone.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's been good. It was lucky. We got here

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Speaker 20: on fire last week, so we sort of had the

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Speaker 20: weekend too, just to click ourselves, get rid of need

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Speaker 20: to experience a bit of the culture here and get

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Speaker 20: out feet on the ground and don't meet me to

1011
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Speaker 20: kind of hit Monday running. We've had a couple of

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Speaker 20: good training scitions over here, nice little bit of fun

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Speaker 20: on the back a time here than what it was

1014
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Speaker 20: in Christy to our left. So now I think it

1015
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Speaker 20: was said familiar againa. I think we're a good spot

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Speaker 20: hidden in for the weekend to be all go good.

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Speaker 2: How hot is it?

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Speaker 20: That's just mid teens, it's every year, but yeah, slightly

1019
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Speaker 20: more and more tropical than what we had back at home.

1020
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Speaker 20: So I think the forecast is pretty good for the

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Speaker 20: weekend and a slightly early took off at six, so

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Speaker 20: spending some money conditions which will be nice to lutch myself.

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Speaker 9: At the back.

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Speaker 2: Are you aware of the buzz? Is there a buzz

1025
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Speaker 2: or are you sort of in a bubble?

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Speaker 20: You feel it a little bit like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 20: what's obviously they come to Argentina once a couple of years,

1028
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Speaker 20: so I've just been a few locals hanging around and

1029
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Speaker 20: we've been to a through agig clubs and been a

1030
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Speaker 20: excitement there. But yeah, general where we kind of them

1031
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Speaker 20: in the hotel and you're pretty locked into what each

1032
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Speaker 20: other's up to and not getting too much of the

1033
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Speaker 20: extra noise. I guess you feel when you're at home

1034
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Speaker 20: in the media and it's a little bit breathing around you.

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Speaker 20: I guess the time reference plays that have bit as

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Speaker 20: well night when we're day here and vice versus. So yeah,

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Speaker 20: it is nice on tour you can get a little

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Speaker 20: bit tighter and sing the bolts in that sense.

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Speaker 2: How do you Because you're away for two so that's

1040
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: you know, that's a decent period away from home. Does

1041
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: that affect you any differently as opposed to just having

1042
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 2: one game away?

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

1044
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Speaker 20: I think a good thing that they be championship visit

1045
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Speaker 20: is that two weeks on one week off, so you

1046
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Speaker 20: kind of know you're getting the way for a bit

1047
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 20: of a sprint, get stuck into this first test and

1048
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 20: then make few adjustments and really give everything you've got

1049
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Speaker 20: for that seeking test. Then it's nice to get home

1050
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Speaker 20: for a week, see the family, see the dog, all

1051
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Speaker 20: that sort of stuff. Then into two weeks again another

1052
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Speaker 20: week off. So I personally quite like the flow of

1053
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Speaker 20: the two weeks on. One week it goes to a

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Speaker 20: India tour or I this year five weeks straight on

1055
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Speaker 20: the road. So yeah, don't do you a chance to

1056
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Speaker 20: experience it's been about what turns about being away for

1057
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Speaker 20: too long?

1058
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Speaker 2: What's your view on Argentina is? Are they the unpredictability

1059
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Speaker 2: factor of Argentina? One day they're brilliant, the next day

1060
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Speaker 2: they're not. Are we over that? Is there a trajectory

1061
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: for them or not?

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Speaker 20: I think so? Yeah, I think I think that up

1063
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Speaker 20: to around for from the world now. So they're suddenly

1064
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Speaker 20: yet been checking at a bit victory the last very

1065
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Speaker 20: or four years, and they've obviously took us up a

1066
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Speaker 20: few times as well, so first and foremost yet to

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Speaker 20: respect that. And it particularly seems to be these first

1068
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Speaker 20: games of the two we've heard trouble against them, so

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Speaker 20: I know they gave a few guys a rests in

1070
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Speaker 20: the July series come off with back a big frink season,

1071
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Speaker 20: so it feels like that priming and ready to go

1072
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Speaker 20: for to be a couple of big tests, particularly defending

1073
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Speaker 20: their hot patch. So yeah, I think the key for

1074
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Speaker 20: us is been able to come out and feel that

1075
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Speaker 20: intensity and really bringant that first twenty minutes to try

1076
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Speaker 20: and silen the crowd a little bit and get on top.

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Speaker 2: And what about the other the other sides. Do you

1078
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Speaker 2: pay a great deal of attention to Australia South Africa

1079
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Speaker 2: this weekend? Therefore what they're doing, what do you deal

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Speaker 2: with that another day when you face them?

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Speaker 20: I think, yeah, in the background, ye're just to ware

1082
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Speaker 20: of what's going on. You're obviously going to play them

1083
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Speaker 20: around the corner, but that's more just I think a

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Speaker 20: family the game is opposed to anything to analytical or

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Speaker 20: starting to think about plans and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 20: and then yet really focus of the two. I think

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00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 20: that's been a trap in the sense of thinking about

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00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 20: what's just here. And yeah, there's obviously, if you've been

1089
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 20: tests coming up when we get back home. But yeah,

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00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 20: for us, just for on Argentina and sophy. The first

1091
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 20: test to making sure we do a job in in

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Speaker 20: game one well have been away.

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Speaker 2: The announcement has been made that Super Rugby is going

1094
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Speaker 2: to have a whole round at the new christ Yurch

1095
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Speaker 2: Stadium next year. That's I mean for a for a

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Speaker 2: local that's going to be a thrill, doesn't it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's awesome. It's been pretty cool driving past that

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00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 20: stadium over the last year or so as it's starting

1099
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 20: to come to fruition and seeing it all come together

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00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 20: and why it will connect I guess the whole city

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00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 20: and with bars and restaurants and all that being so close.

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Speaker 20: It's going to be a great thing for us and

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Speaker 20: to everyone coming down down to christ which I should

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Speaker 20: we look a visitors coming in. It'll be great and

1105
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 20: a great way to sinily check off the stadium or

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00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 20: to be in a jelly days anyway, so a great

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Speaker 20: way to I just show the nation and show the

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Speaker 20: world what it'll.

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00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: Be all about right from behind the scenes. Insight Please

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00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: will how much steak and mel Beck have you consumed

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00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 20: I've got through a plenty of steak metsa shore and

1113
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 20: I say it was good to the year. Over the

1114
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 20: weekends and the lucks of Body and had a pretty

1115
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 20: good wine connoisseur, so we had a couple of those

1116
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 20: to indulge in it.

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00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 12: So it was good.

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00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had.

1119
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 20: We started Argentina and barbecue and our day office today

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00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 20: after golf. So now it's been good to enjoy a

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00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 20: bit of the local pleasures.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Will you go well this weekend? We're

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Speaker 2: all watching, of course, and listening with Piney's commentary. Is

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00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: it Piney? It won't be Piney?

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Speaker 13: Will it?

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Speaker 2: He'll be Elliott. Will Jordan out of Argentina this morning,

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00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: seventeen away from.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tasking the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 9: At be.

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00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: Teen to weight. Will Jordan probably the best communicator your

1132
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: interview from the All Black side degree Mike such an

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: articulate man of future a But yeah, I think he's

1134
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: my favorite all black, which I know will upset Hannah,

1135
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: who believes Body's my favorite all black and Body is

1136
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: a favorite all black of mine. But I'll tell you what,

1137
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: Will's pretty good. Right to the teachers, we did. We

1138
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: crunched the numbers. A lot of you have written to

1139
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Speaker 2: me and a lot of you texted yesterday. And it

1140
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: always unfolds the same way anytime some minister claims that

1141
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: somebody earns X number of dollars and somebody else goes, well,

1142
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm a nurse and I've been a nurse for three

1143
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve years, and i don't know what she says.

1144
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: And I'm a teacher and I don't earn that, et cetera.

1145
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, here is the definitive, so a base salary.

1146
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: So the claim from Judith Callers was I can't remember

1147
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: what she said. Was one forty five or one forty seven,

1148
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: one or the other. The base salary for an untrained

1149
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 2: teacher is eighty five five hundred and twenty nine dollars.

1150
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: Are you known as a G three? Untrained means you've

1151
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: got a high qualification overseas you haven't gone through our

1152
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: system of training. The average teacher salaries one hundred thousand

1153
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: dollars average. That's up from ninety three a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Just by way of an exercise that did this morning,

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00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: I've gone back to the turn of the century two

1156
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: thousand and one and looked at the increases that teachers

1157
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: have got each time. They've got increases and it's range

1158
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: from two percent, one and a half percent, eight percent,

1159
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: two percent, three percent, three percent, four percent, four percent,

1160
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: one percent, two percent, et cetera, et cetera. Biggest increase

1161
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: was under labour and a dourn eight percent, and also

1162
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: under clerk of labor another eight percent. Over the twenty

1163
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: five years or twenty four years, teacher salaries have gone

1164
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: up sixty seven percent. So you've done okay. Not every year,

1165
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: but overall you've done okay. So where do we go

1166
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 2: from here? So I got to one hundred thousand dollars.

1167
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: Now you can earn units units reloicated based on management

1168
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: and or curriculum responsibilities. Each unit's worth five thousand dollars

1169
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: a year. There's a middle management allowance that's two thousand

1170
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: dollars a year. There is over time. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: how applicable that is, but any timetabled class contact in

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00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 2: excess of your ten half days that's five days a week,

1173
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: you get overtime. Any class contact on a Saturday or Sunday,

1174
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: it's overtime. There's a two thousand dollars service increment. So

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Speaker 2: by the time you add all of that up together

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Speaker 2: and you get your teen years, it is possible to

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Speaker 2: be paid one forty seven thousand. So I think where

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00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: the acrimony has come between teachers and the minister is

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: does everyone at teen years earn one four seven?

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00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 9: No?

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00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: Is it possible, though, to earn one for seven?

1182
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 13: Yes?

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00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: And so I think that's where the claim is. And

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00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: it's the same with nurses. So it depends on whether

1185
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: you're listening carefully, enup to what's a base salary and

1186
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: therefore what's possible. So nurses particularly on things like overtime,

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00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: because it'll be a great deal more overtime worked as

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00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: a nurse than the will as a teacher. But when

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00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: the claim is made around nursing, there is allowances, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And once you add those allowances together and the average

1191
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: over time and the average salary, et cetera, you get

1192
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 2: to the number they claim. Whereas in the teacher's case,

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Speaker 2: is it possible for a ten year senior teacher to

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Speaker 2: earn one four seven? Yes? Do everyone?

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Speaker 13: Does?

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00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: Everyone?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: But it is possible. So, like all all things in life,

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Speaker 2: when the claim is made and the counterclaim is made,

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Speaker 2: when you actually crunch the numbers, we're all right ten

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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking break Best. We's Rainfrowver News, togs deadbs given.

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Speaker 2: Away from health Matters. We're seeing big demand for our

1204
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: surgical robotics program. So Wakefield Hospitals in the Capital, of course,

1205
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: just completed it's eight hundredth procedure, which is a two

1206
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: hundred percent increase in the last couple of years. Michael

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Speaker 2: Quirk is the CEO of Evolution Healthcare Hospitals and as

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Speaker 2: with us, Michael, morning.

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Speaker 20: To you, Mike, great to be here.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: How much more efficient is a robot than a surgeon?

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 20: Yes, good question.

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Speaker 14: Look, the efficiencies are increasingly being found as the technology develops.

1214
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 14: So the robots aren't for all procedures by any stretch,

1215
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Speaker 14: but for those that it has been working on over

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Speaker 14: a number of years and in deep decades. Now the

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00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 14: new generation robots are seeing much better efficiencies, they're less invasive,

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Speaker 14: and most importantly, the enhanced outcomes. Excuse me that we're

1219
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 14: now seeing an outstanding resultful both the patients and the

1220
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 14: broader health system.

1221
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: Really, what sort of procedures and the number of procedures,

1222
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: not numerically, but this range of increasing and dramatically.

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, initially we saw a lot of urology work

1224
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 14: being this sort of the initial for a for this robots.

1225
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 14: But what we've seen since there is a move into

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Speaker 14: general surgery, gynecology, head and neck, and the E and

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Speaker 14: T and it's even in cardiac surgery now as well.

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Speaker 14: So as you can see the expanding ability of these

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00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 14: robots as the new generations come along just means more

1230
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 14: and more. This has been part of our health system

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Speaker 14: that we need to adopt.

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Speaker 2: Does the risk profile change at all in the same

1233
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: operation using an old team versus a machine?

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Speaker 9: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 14: And look, these robots are only being deployed when the

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00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 14: risk profile is actually safer for the patient. And again

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00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 14: we have those enhanced health outcomes which medical literature is

1238
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 14: increasingly showing, and that's what's driving the mood to these robots.

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00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: How do people handle it? Because would most people going

1240
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: into at some point of medical contact, they'll go, right,

1241
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: you're having this procedure and by the way, it's a robot.

1242
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: Do people freak out?

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00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 14: Look, look there's definitely apprehension for some of our patients.

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 14: We always walk them through just what the surgery is

1246
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 14: going to be. And when you walk into the theater

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Speaker 14: and you understand that the console itself where the surgeon

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00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 14: is not next to the theater table where the patient is.

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 14: That can be a bit jarring for some, but ultimately

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00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 14: the pre op education that we do and the assurances

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 14: that we give and the outcomes that we can now

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00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 14: show mean that the patients are always prepared and undergo

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Speaker 14: surgery from there.

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Speaker 2: Where is the doctor? Because what I'm fascinated and is

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: robotics versus remote So, in other words, the doctors in

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00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: Timbuktu and you're in Auckland versus the doctor being in

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00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: the next room.

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00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 20: Yeah, good question.

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00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 14: Look, the console is in the theater itself. The robot,

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00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 14: the robot with its multiple arms are set up over

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Speaker 14: the patient via ports and most commonly this will be

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Speaker 14: within the patients abdomen for general surgery, urology and gynecology

1263
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 14: and the lake. But the surgeon himself or herself will

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00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 14: be at the side of the room and I'll be

1265
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 14: able to see the room and be controlling the theater

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00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 14: with the theater team around, and the innethetist will be

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Speaker 14: at the head of the patient as well.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, mate, I'm nice and so I appreciate it

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: very much. Michael Quirk's fascinating area, isn't it robotics and

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00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: technology and all that sort of stuff anyway, Chief Executive

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00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: Officer of Evolution Healthcare Hospitals four minutes away from mate past.

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Speaker 2: Technically I'm going for a scan next week.

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 22: So just one, there's somebody who claims to be as

1274
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 22: invincible and as healthy as you do. You've seem to

1275
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 22: be permanently being saved, jabbed.

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00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: Dusted, don't even get me started on And it all

1277
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: comes out the same ways, which is what I've argued

1278
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: all along. It all comes out even and goes, oh,

1279
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: you're fine, well, of course I am. I don't expecting anything.

1280
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: By the way, quick word on rents there out this morning.

1281
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: Rental prices are continuing to go down. We're down three

1282
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: percent this month, down to six twenty. Wellington's dropped fifty

1283
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: bucks a week. Wellington's down seven point seven percent, Auckland's

1284
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: down two point nine, o Target's down three point two,

1285
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: Southland's up four point two. Who else is up? Nelson's up,

1286
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: that's it. Everyone else is down. So there is a

1287
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: very material downward trend in rental accommodation in this country.

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00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: So that's I guess not the investor, of course, but

1289
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: that the tenants is good news. Now we've got a

1290
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: problem with Tim, so I don't know if it's going

1291
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: to be Tim and Katie Well might have to work

1292
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: something out during the news.

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Speaker 1: Setting me agenda and talking the big issues. The Mike

1294
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Speaker 1: Hocking Breakfast with a Vita retirement, give you life your

1295
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: way news, togs Head, be.

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Speaker 13: You can.

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Speaker 2: There's more of this distorted thing. That's culyer thing these days.

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01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 21: You need to get your hearing check.

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Speaker 2: Do you don't think this is distorted?

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean distorted guitars and things are a.

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Speaker 2: Thing that we've been using since, you know, the late fifties.

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Speaker 2: Thirteenth album, No Rain, No Flowers the Black Keys, catchier

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Speaker 2: and more upbeat offerings is what they're suggesting. The up

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Speaker 2: ten po No Rain, No Flowers is a joyous standouts

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Speaker 2: that this one here, I no, this one's called baby Girl.

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Speaker 2: That's what they keep singing, baby girl. Why aren't you

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Speaker 2: playing the joyous standout? Well, I mean that's one person's opinion. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's thirty six minutes and fifty are you, Katie, you

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01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: hearing this?

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Speaker 8: I'm hearing it?

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: Is it distorted to you?

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Speaker 8: If you thought the new Justin Bieber album I was

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Speaker 8: playing it the other day was also distorted.

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Speaker 7: So maybe on top of your scans you could also

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Speaker 7: get a hearing.

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Speaker 2: Check eleven tracks and thirty six minutes and fifty two

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Speaker 2: seconds of The Black.

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Speaker 1: Key The Week in Review with two degrees bringing smart

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Speaker 1: business solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got a problem to Hawksby's with us, but

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Speaker 2: Tim's not. So it's very unusual for Tim because this

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Speaker 2: is he confesses the highlight of his week. Well, I

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: don't know. We got a text this morning saying he's

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Speaker 2: on holiday and he's not doing it because he's on

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Speaker 2: holiday for the next two weeks.

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Speaker 13: From Tim.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, so he's he's on holiday. He's on holiday.

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Speaker 2: He's not on the show.

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Speaker 13: But usually when he's on holiday, because that's usually like

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Speaker 13: a Nelson or Vegas, he usually dies with it.

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's the four day a week attitude. It's the

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Speaker 2: work from home mentel let's come to the program. So

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Speaker 2: we've drummed up in the news.

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Speaker 3: CAD may not give you advanced notice. Well he did.

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Speaker 2: He texted about Courtwait. So so I've got we've drummed

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Speaker 2: up somebody during the news as a late breaking participant

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Speaker 2: in the program. Right, okay, so we're going to play

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01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: a game, and the prize is a year's worth of

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01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: the sweets of your choice.

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Speaker 13: Or well, first of all, why why did you have

1341
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 13: to replace him?

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Speaker 9: Do you not?

1343
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 13: Is there no trust in me to fly solo here?

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Speaker 2: Very good, actually quite a good point. I'll answer that honestly.

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: And unfortunately I have to throw somebody under the bus.

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01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: Jason said, we need somebody else. Oh my goodness, by

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: b Yes, right, so I'm going to play it. So,

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01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: so a year supply of the lollies of your choice

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01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: or a five hundred dollars donation to the charity of

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01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: your choice, whichever you're like, if you get it right? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: so so clue number one. He is known by everybody, broadly,

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Speaker 2: broadly popular, Glenn, A little bit older than me, but

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: not much, oh but not nearly as good looking.

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Speaker 19: A little bit older than you.

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Speaker 8: I thought, who's older than you?

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Speaker 13: In there?

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Speaker 2: They're not in here, they're not in here. They're just

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Speaker 2: okay questions.

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Speaker 13: They're not a radio person.

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Speaker 2: They're not a radio person. Oh just some rando.

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Speaker 3: Well, no trying to rando.

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Speaker 19: Last minute?

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Speaker 2: Is this Jason's call, and is Jason's call funnily enough?

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Speaker 9: Right? So who I?

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Speaker 2: It's okay?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Question another two? Let me give you another one. Let

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Speaker 2: me give you another one associated with the economic success

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: of the country at a time when it was referred

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Speaker 2: to as the rock Star economy.

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Speaker 3: Stephen Joyce not bad, not bad, but not quite.

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Speaker 2: Third and final clue who.

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Speaker 9: Who?

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: It's not a politician?

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Speaker 2: It could be who'd you say?

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01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 13: I said, John Key?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, John morning, Mikey.

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Speaker 3: I have never been referred to as a rendow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's tough, but I was. I was super

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Speaker 3: excited Katie.

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Speaker 13: And I got the call up.

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Speaker 3: This was the highlight of my year, I think possibly

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Speaker 3: my career that you and I were a team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: Hey, how much notice did they give you? When did

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Speaker 2: they call you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a typical organization. Again on the My Costing Show,

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Speaker 3: it's like five minutes. Actually, can I start with a question?

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Speaker 3: How much do I get for this gig?

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Speaker 9: How much?

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01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. I tell you why.

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01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: I asked that question because the other day I was

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: I was a little bit bored. I gotta be honest,

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 3: So I looked on chet GPT and said, how much

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01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: just just Cinder are doing get for a speech?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 11: Anyway?

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Speaker 3: Turns out hundreds of thousands of dollars. So then I

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01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: said to you check GPT. Okay, well how much does

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01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: John get for a speech? And it was obviously a

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Speaker 3: fraction of that, right. So then I went and saw

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01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: Brown and I said, well, why is this the case?

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: She said, well, you're not that relevant anymore.

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01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 9: Mate.

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: I went, yeah, well, okay, that's not good enough answer.

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: So I went back to check GPT and said, why

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01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 3: does just Cinder done so much more than Shoan Key?

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: And here's the answer. She was a more empathetic leader.

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be oozing empathy over the next

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. And I just want you to reach me out.

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Speaker 3: That's all I want. That's all I asked, Just a

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: bit a bit of cash to sort of loud the

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Speaker 3: wheels of wine or whatever I might like, the pictures

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Speaker 3: for good morning.

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Speaker 8: You can negotiate on behalf of both of us, because

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01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 8: I bet you'd be a good negotiator on the door.

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a good can actually we get Steven Joyce

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: in there if we fail anyway?

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: Exactly can you can I just some ground rules, John,

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: if you don't mind, please don't use the word lub a.

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not the one who started at you are

1423
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: the ones calling merr well?

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: Actually exactly, Katie, do you regret using that terminology?

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 9: Now?

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01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, I mean he's not a rando?

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: Is he? Now that we know who it is? But

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: I mean initially I was confused. That's also I apologize

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: it was actually some rando? Did you correct?

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Speaker 2: It's going very well at the moment. We'll need to

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Speaker 2: take a break though. Thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News.

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: Talk zipp Use talks me sixteen past eight.

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: The weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions

1436
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: to the table.

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Speaker 2: John Key's a legend my word of miss John Key. So, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you expect Katie to work with an amateur. That's the

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01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: only negative one.

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 9: So far.

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: That actually the white It's funny you should say you

1442
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: mentioned briner. John. Does Browner tell you what to wear

1443
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: and what you look like?

1444
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 11: Oh?

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01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well she well she tells me I look

1446
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: at mess but yeah, she tries to tidy out my egg.

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01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: But it doesn't really work. No, I don't have any

1448
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: jackets nearly as flash as the ones I see you

1449
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: on Mike Smith, don't they nothing like that?

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01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: So when she comes from, Katie comes, So I come

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: home and Katie goes, you've got to stop wearing that

1452
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: stuff like that or you don't look any good in that,

1453
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: or why do you still wear that? And she talks

1454
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: about my moods and how it's not flattering and stuff

1455
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: like that. Do you get a lot of that?

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01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 3: Oh god, no, no, no, she just she just gets

1457
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: it all, puts it the puts in a black bag

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: and donates it to charity. Yeah, I've obviously got it

1459
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: up my game and step it up like bron I've

1460
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: obviously got to step it up about Yeah, just take

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01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 3: take take action. Katie ask for forgiveness later.

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: The golf flow. Somebody asked about the golf. Is the

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: golf good? Yeah, the golf's pretty good.

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01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 3: I actually, finally if I mentioned the Napa Valley today,

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: which is a long way away from I mean, it's

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: very nice. It's I know you're only drinking one glass

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01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: a day or something, Well, I means you an off site.

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01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: Mean I'm working, I'm working Mike, But yes, it's a

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01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: little bit of golf up here. Very nice.

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: And when you say glass a day, it's kadie. How

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01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: how many glasses a week?

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 9: Is it?

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: What's about two a week?

1475
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 9: Now?

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 13: Very very good, very impressive.

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of scientific evidents to prove it's

1478
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 3: good for you. I reckon, do you reckon?

1479
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 9: What do you know? Well?

1480
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 3: I mean you know again if I go to the

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01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: Oracle of all information chat GBT. This made me more

1482
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: buoyant on my drinking.

1483
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: Has it?

1484
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 13: Does it?

1485
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: Have you asked them? Is John Key drinking too much?

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 9: Well?

1487
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 3: I can no, No, I haven't asked that question. But

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01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 3: I can tell you on the campaign in the old days,

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01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 3: I'd give up for the six weeks of the campaign

1490
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: because I just thought it was the right thing to do, right,

1491
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: And I'd get up to audiences and I'd say, look,

1492
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Speaker 3: I've given up drinking for the last six weeks, and

1493
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 3: there'd be this groan, right, and then I'd say, just

1494
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: for the record, they tell you you sleep better, you

1495
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 3: feel better, you lose weight, everything's clearer, it's all bullshit,

1496
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: it's not true, and it all clapped vigorously. So I

1497
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: can assure you you are not on the side of

1498
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 3: the winning angels here. If you're telling them to give

1499
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: up drinking.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Cadie, you so what.

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 9: I know?

1502
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: He sounds exactly like you, identical to you.

1503
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: But you you You cited that new stat this morning.

1504
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: I heard in a gallop. Now it's funny. You should

1505
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: be in Napa Valley because you won't know this, but

1506
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: the things came out from America yesterday. There's fifty four

1507
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: percent of the people in America drink alcohol now. So

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: in other words, it's basically fifty to fifty half of

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01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 2: America doesn't drink alcohol anymore. Would that be your observation

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01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: from Napa Valley? Probably not being naper Velly.

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Speaker 3: He's probably sitting.

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01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: No, he's a napper Vellley in a vineyard and he

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Speaker 2: still manages to appear on the show. We've got to

1514
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: ask him some serious questions. Yeah, that's true. But you

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: don't work, to you, John, I mean to be Let's

1516
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: be honest. You're not really working much these days, are

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Speaker 2: you are?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm on a board off site today, but yeah, no,

1519
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Speaker 3: not not not as much as I used to. I

1520
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Speaker 3: tell what it's true with drinking, though, young people aren't

1521
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: drinking nearly as much. No, it's amazing. Help of them

1522
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 3: don't drink. You know, they might do other things, but

1523
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Speaker 3: they don't drink.

1524
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Speaker 2: Do you Reckon? They're on the cannabis in California?

1525
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it depends where you go. I mean, you know,

1526
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: definitely definitely Los Angeles, San Francisco and those of places

1527
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: one hundred percent years, you know, just kind of place

1528
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Speaker 3: it stinks, and that, I Reckon's tolerable so personally, but

1529
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: you know, the devil's letters as.

1530
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Speaker 6: They call it.

1531
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Speaker 2: But you know, are you going to the French laundry?

1532
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 3: Funny enough? And this must be maybe the sign the

1533
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Speaker 3: economy is slowing a little more than you think. That's

1534
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 3: open in the evening, But bouche on, which is when

1535
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: you can kind of get in during the day, is closed.

1536
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 3: Actually during the week it's I think it's open Friday,

1537
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 3: said there, someday it six me, what's Thursday here? And

1538
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 3: it wasn't open yesterday or Tuesday. French laundry don't have time, unfortunately,

1539
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 3: I worked on us driving.

1540
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Speaker 2: I've got too many.

1541
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Speaker 3: You do know that you've got the number one talk

1542
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: show host talk show in the country. Eight people are

1543
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 3: not that interested in what I'm doing, some information about

1544
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: something anything, no, no, no.

1545
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 9: No, no.

1546
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Speaker 2: One of the things you'll learn about this, I mean,

1547
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: obviously we'll review this performance, John, it's not a lot

1548
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Speaker 2: for next week. But one of the things you find

1549
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: about the slot fairly quickly is it basically goes nowhere.

1550
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Speaker 3: I've heard it many times before, but it's not true.

1551
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 3: Katie always comes up with some great gems. Tim's in there.

1552
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: I mean you also carrying the candle weave it really?

1553
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly? Have you the pickleball league, Katie? Just quickly,

1554
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: because that actually launched this week, didn't it.

1555
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 13: Pickleball is going off. It's a big thing in the States,

1556
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 13: doesn't it. I don't know if you've hit it already.

1557
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: John, play pickleball and now, I mean I don't know

1558
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: the rules, but.

1559
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 8: Who does a really really hard it's a really it's

1560
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 8: a stupid new usual and it's hard to score too.

1561
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 10: But it's so much fun, isn't it.

1562
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: Oh, it's great fun.

1563
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: The ball is big and easy.

1564
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 3: You don't want to kind of sort of try and

1565
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 3: overdo things. I mean, we are getting a little bit older,

1566
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: but no, I it's great fun. Little court, you know,

1567
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 3: and it's massively popular. Like where our places in Maui.

1568
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 3: This pickable court and tenn scort. No one uses ten score, everyone.

1569
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: Uses pickable amazing. Could John join your league, Kadie.

1570
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a wait list, but I'll be prepared to

1571
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: look at it.

1572
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Speaker 13: I mean we are beginners, We're not we're not taking

1573
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Speaker 13: it too seriously. But we are having a hell of

1574
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Speaker 13: a lot of fun.

1575
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Speaker 2: Good now, it's really good fun. You strike well, I'll

1576
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Speaker 2: have my scan and I'll see what the scan sears

1577
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Speaker 2: and efforts.

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Speaker 9: Making.

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Speaker 3: We can be a team, Mike you I could be

1580
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Speaker 3: a team doubles. We could be some randoms. I'll be

1581
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Speaker 3: the Sun and you be the random.

1582
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Speaker 2: Lovely to see you guys, John Key, and thank you

1583
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Speaker 2: for stepping in at the last minute. John Key and

1584
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Speaker 2: Kate talks me actually too.

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Speaker 2: the reason I ask about French laundry. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Laundry and Beauchamp, Beauchamp rather in the Napa Valley where

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Speaker 2: Keys at the moment. So that's the only reason I

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Speaker 2: referenced that. Yeah, so what have we got, Mike? The

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Speaker 2: best ever? John Key needs to be a regular. Please

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Speaker 2: the three of you on together, great big smiles. That's

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Speaker 17: Here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast, The Breakfast Show, kiwis

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Speaker 17: with Grainthrover leading by example, news talk'd desinly.

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Speaker 2: I was mentioning yesterday the COVID inquiry and all the

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Speaker 2: shambles around the labor party refusing and the hearings next

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Speaker 2: week are off. Anyway, I did ask we rung again

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Speaker 2: Illingworth and he's not talking, and I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I blame him because he's in an official capacity. He's

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Speaker 2: running a COVID inquiry. If he turns up here, he'll

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Speaker 2: have to turn up everywhere, and so on and so forth. However,

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Speaker 2: there is reportage which I find interesting. There was a

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Speaker 2: briefing that Newsroom the website got suggesting because I asked yesterday,

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Speaker 2: because he has the ability to pull them in is

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Speaker 2: the point now? Does he not want to be seen

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Speaker 2: to be doing the right thing by the wider public?

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Speaker 2: And I wondered whether there was some disappointment at the

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Speaker 2: government level. A Brook van Velden ha's running this particular

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Speaker 2: part of the inquiry was the disappointment anyway, Newsroom got

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Speaker 2: hold of a briefing suggesting significant tensions between the two,

1642
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Speaker 2: which is interesting, not over this specifically, but previously so

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Speaker 2: internal affairs. It is reported brief v Velden of this

1644
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Speaker 2: particular meeting with Ellingworth, advising her to make clear her

1645
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Speaker 2: expectation that the chair implements improvements in the inquiri's planning,

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Speaker 2: risk assessment and progress reporting, and failure by him to

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Speaker 2: commit to do so will further undermine your confidence in

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Speaker 2: him and then the inquiry. So is it possible before

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Speaker 2: this thing even began they had some buyers regret. Could

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Speaker 2: be a story for next week twenty two to nine.

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Speaker 18: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 18: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: We all make muriold.

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Speaker 13: How are you, ma'am? Very good morning, pretty good, thank you,

1655
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Speaker 13: pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It must have he must have known it was coming.

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Speaker 2: So when you go, yep, we'll we'll, we'll register Palestine.

1658
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 2: He must have known that Hamas was going to leap

1659
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Speaker 2: all over that and go for gold.

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Speaker 13: Well, I dare say, I mean Hamas has been winning

1661
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Speaker 13: the pr war against Israel. Australia is no different. They

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 13: got a very sophisticated public relations machine. And I mean

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 13: that story in the nine newspapers was later discredited, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 13: I mean, Humas will be going you beauty. Another one, France, Britain, Canada,

1665
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 13: A lot of about one hundred and fifty countries apparently

1666
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 13: are going to line up at the United Nations next month.

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Speaker 9: Over here, you'd expect the I mean, look, it's.

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Speaker 13: Been a two it's been a bipartisan policy in Australian politics.

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Speaker 13: A two state solution to this intractable problem, Israel and

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Speaker 13: Palestinian state. But the way the way Albanezy has gone

1671
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 13: about it, he's really left the coalition behind him. And

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01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 13: Susan Lee said this week that Elbows out of his depth.

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01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 13: Scott Morrison wade in a hollow gesture and Josh Fridenberg,

1674
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Speaker 13: who you know I thought had a really good chance

1675
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 13: of being a liberal prime minister who lost the seat

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 13: of course last election. He said, it's a logical and

1677
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 13: you listen to people like Fredenburg not so much. I

1678
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 13: don't think Morrison anymore. Susan Lee is doing a job

1679
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 13: as opposition leader, but boy boy, she's got some white

1680
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 13: anting at her and her coalition party room.

1681
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Speaker 9: So it's a mess.

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01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 13: I'm in Israel, lashed alban Easy and he basically said,

1683
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 13: well mate, it's it's net Nyahu who's brought the world

1684
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 13: to this position and by prosecuting a war he can't win,

1685
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Speaker 13: and by starving people and then occupied Gaza.

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Speaker 9: So it's a mess, mate, you know that.

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you and I have been round long enough

1688
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: to see to miss many, many many times over this

1689
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 2: roundtable that Elbow's got going. The leak Treasury advice. Is

1690
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 2: this a stitch up? Is this this is a smoke

1691
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: and mirror's operation or not?

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 9: Mate? I thought that myself.

1693
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,879
Speaker 13: I thought, hello, this is labor leaking it in advance.

1694
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 13: The Treasury advice spells out the ABC saw it, so

1695
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 13: I smell a rat and perhaps many other people do too.

1696
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 13: But basically the ABC said the list that had seen

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 13: it really focuses on housing, housing approvals, trying to cut

1698
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 13: red tape. That's something the business community wants for this

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01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 13: big round table next week. Also cutting environl a metal

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01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 13: red tape, considering her are tens and tens of thousands

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 13: of approvals apparently tied up at the moment right across

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01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,879
Speaker 13: Australia and particularly in New South Wales with environmental legislation.

1703
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 13: The union movement, of course, is heading in next week

1704
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 13: demanding a four day week, tax breaks for low income workers,

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 13: higher taxes on business, surprise, surprise, and business leaders are

1706
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 13: worried they're going to be like the rabbit in the headlights.

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01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 13: Might Albanezi insist the governments up for big reform, but

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 13: he's running away from anything that sounds like a tax increase,

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 13: certainly with a GST. And that's the most obvious bit

1710
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 13: of low hanging fruit bump up the GST to fifteen

1711
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 13: percent like New Zealand, like most other places around the world.

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01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 13: It's been a ten percent since John Howard brought it in,

1713
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 13: and it's no longer fit for purpose.

1714
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Speaker 9: That's the view of many, many people over here.

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01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 13: But don't expect any massive tax to reform next week.

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01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 13: And the way Albanze is talking Mike not for the

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Speaker 13: rest of his term of government.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting in many respects. What's your observation of him

1719
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: in the sense he thing, isn't he because he's so

1720
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 2: successful electorially? Yeah, he kind of. And they're in the

1721
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: oppositions in such a state's.

1722
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 9: Got your mess.

1723
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 13: He's never going to get a night like a fifty

1724
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 13: seat majority coalition ever.

1725
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: Again, so do you go for broke, do you go nuts?

1726
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: Or do you now play it safe?

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Speaker 9: Well, that's I mean.

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Speaker 13: Look, he's cautious, no doubt about it. He's been coursious

1729
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Speaker 13: all his life. He never thought he'd be prime minister.

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Speaker 13: He thought he was a Trotsky from the university days,

1731
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Speaker 13: and he never when he did, I swear to God,

1732
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Speaker 13: I bet he never thought he'd be sitting in the

1733
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 13: lots making decisions, and here he is now he has

1734
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 13: the chance. As you say, you've got such a huge

1735
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 13: majority in the parliament. If you're not going to do

1736
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 13: it now, you won't have a better time.

1737
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: Don't die wondering.

1738
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 13: At least go with a low hanging fruit like GST.

1739
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 9: Then you can.

1740
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 13: You know, you'll have so much money, according to one

1741
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 13: study that's going around, you'll have so much cash you

1742
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 13: can afford to compensate those on the very bottom low

1743
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 13: income owners and still have a huge, big chunk left

1744
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 13: over to do stuff with.

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01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: As you sit in Sydney, does Sydney I mean this

1746
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 2: just Cinderellen woman and Victoria in general? Are they broadly?

1747
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: I know all of Australia's run domestically by labor, but

1748
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: is she an outlier? She seems particularly odd well.

1749
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 13: She wiz well, okay, leading question. You're on my learned

1750
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 13: well look from up in New South Wales. Yes, I

1751
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 13: mean we've got a labor leader, but Chris Men's comes

1752
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 13: out of the cookie cutter school of labor leaders, you know,

1753
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 13: cautious but prepared to undertake reform. Just sender Allen, you know,

1754
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 13: and don't forget she was there under Dan Andrews.

1755
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they're both as mad as each other. But

1756
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: I refer because no one knows what I'm talking about,

1757
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: but I refer yesterday to her spray at the media

1758
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: when they are asking her about whether it's unusual to

1759
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 2: be teaching five year olds in Victoria that you know,

1760
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: if they're not feeling like a boy, then they can

1761
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 2: be a girl or something else. But I mean, what

1762
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: the hell's going on?

1763
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 13: It's ridiculous, isn't it. I mean, it is ridiculous, And

1764
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 13: you know it is the first refuge, isn't it. Go

1765
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 13: and strict the messenger. I mean, we're just asking questions.

1766
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 13: That's what we're here for. That's what we that's what

1767
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 13: journalism is. And if she didn't like the questions, I mean,

1768
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 13: it is it is. I don't think you would struggle

1769
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 13: to find three people in Australia who think that's a

1770
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 13: feeling normal thing to have.

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01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 9: In a classroom exactly.

1772
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Speaker 13: I mean, how real is it? You know, I don't

1773
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 13: know it's real or not. I've not been sitting in

1774
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 13: the classroom. This stuff is discussed. But it wouldn't it

1775
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 13: wouldn't surprise me.

1776
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: But at five, at five, they won't even know what

1777
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: the hell you're talking about. I know, tell you what

1778
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: I was doing at five mate. It wasn't wondering whether

1779
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: I was a boy or not.

1780
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 9: I know, that's right.

1781
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 13: I'd blame Johnny Cash made boy named sir.

1782
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: What's the vibe is? I mean you're going to get

1783
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: well you you're in New Zealander. Australia are going to

1784
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: get absolutely spanked by the spring Box, aren't they.

1785
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 13: Well you'd think so, I'm in the box, are very

1786
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 13: very strong playing at altitude alice part and you've got

1787
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 13: James O'Connor, who I'm a big f I'm.

1788
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 9: A big fan of James O'Connor, always have me.

1789
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 13: And he's going to start his first Test over in

1790
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 13: three years. He's going to start at number ten on

1791
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 13: the weekend against the Box for the Wallabies. Now Joe

1792
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 13: Schmidt that wasn't his preferred option, but Donnelly, who was

1793
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 13: the preferred number ten, he was injured at training the

1794
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 13: last training run, so O'Connor comes in. Maybe there's a

1795
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 13: spot for Taine ed med He is the number three

1796
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 13: pick for first five eights on this trip. But I mean,

1797
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 13: having seen the Wallabies up against the I thought a

1798
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 13: pretty ordinary lines outfit here in Australia.

1799
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 9: I thought the Wallabies should.

1800
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 13: Have won that second testant easily output of the Lions

1801
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 13: and the third Test. You know, maybe they may surprise

1802
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 13: some people with boy Boy.

1803
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 9: As you know and I know and every rugby fan.

1804
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 13: There's the Buddy spring box at home at altitude just

1805
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 13: about principle exactly.

1806
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: All right, mate, you have a good weekend. We'll catch

1807
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: up next week. Appreciate it. Murray Old's all already fourteen

1808
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: to nine.

1809
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1810
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1811
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Speaker 9: At b.

1812
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: Immigration numbers. I didn't have time to raise them with Murray,

1813
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: but I'll talk to Steve about it Monday. But the

1814
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: immigration numbers in Australia booming, and they're not booming here.

1815
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: So people are choosing specifically to go to Australia and

1816
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: not New Zealand. In fact, they're choosing in such large

1817
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: numbers it's become once again a major problem. So obviously

1818
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: there's something about Australia. I think we probably can all

1819
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: agree what it is that they like over us, which

1820
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: is unfortunate and disappointing. Maybe I'll raise it with the

1821
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: Prime Minister on Monday as well. Anyway, iag insurance is

1822
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: another thing to worry about. I don't know if you're

1823
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: getting the same bills I am, but they're all going up.

1824
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: IAG See. This is the tricky thing for iag on

1825
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: and ami zide in state. So they got a profit

1826
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: of six hundred and sixty four million dollars, which is

1827
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: up on a year ago. So of course that's good

1828
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: because you like a good successful company, but it's bad

1829
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: because you're paying for it. We're all paying for it.

1830
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: Written premiums increase one point seven percent. Insurance margin SYE

1831
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: the margin was twenty seven point four percent. It went

1832
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 2: up from twenty two point five. So they're making more money.

1833
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: There's more profit in it. Now they'll go while we

1834
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: need it, Boy, do we need a climate change and

1835
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: data da da are, But you know we're paying the bill.

1836
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: Home mode of premiums increased by more than ten percent.

1837
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: That's no surprise to any of us. Private motor premium

1838
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: decrease slightly, which is encouraging. Claims expenses were also down,

1839
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: so they got a break on some of the stuff

1840
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: they can't control, iev weather related things. You know they

1841
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: can't control it it happens, they pay. If it doesn't happen,

1842
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: they don't pay. So that's good. You can do nothing

1843
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: about that. But the margins are interesting. But I don't

1844
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 2: know what you do. You certainly you don't. You don't

1845
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: want to. You don't want to to the point where

1846
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 2: they don't want to insure us. And I don't know

1847
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: how far off we are from that. And that's a major, major,

1848
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: major question I've raised on this program many times over

1849
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 2: the years. How many people are looking internationally because all

1850
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: these insurers, of course, are reinsured. So the reinsurance market

1851
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 2: look at a place like New Zealand, going, hey, it's

1852
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: five million people, it's pot of the wild, who cares,

1853
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 2: don't worry about it, leave them alone to it. And

1854
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: next thing you know, we've got no insurance. So you

1855
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 2: don't want that. Meantime, electricity Authority remember them? I asked

1856
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 2: whether you remember them? Because they know what ever seen?

1857
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: It was this time last year, middle of winter. We're

1858
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 2: asking on this program with the hell of the electricity

1859
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: authority as we were, But the spot price went through

1860
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: the roof, and the whole electricity market seemed to be

1861
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 2: on its knees. Now a year later, they've suddenly announced

1862
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 2: yesterday they're investigating concerns over energy pricing. Well, hello, where

1863
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: were you last year? The concerns over energy prices didn't

1864
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: start this past Monday. So they're looking at contract availability,

1865
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: business conduct, blah blah blah. They're working in association with

1866
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: the Commerce Commission. A bunch of people users, mainly bigger users,

1867
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: sent a letter to the Prime Minister. So maybe that

1868
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 2: did something. But at last they've been shaken into life.

1869
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 22: It wasn't just that they thought, oh, we'll give it

1870
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 22: a year seef it sorts it self out, and they went, ah,

1871
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 22: it's still really expensive.

1872
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: Could have been that, but anyway, we might raise that

1873
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister Monday as well. See I'm already

1874
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: looking forward to Monday eight to nine.

1875
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: The make Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Community News

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01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 1: togs Head been my.

1877
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Speaker 2: Good luck with your scan. Really, hope all goes well

1878
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: for you can't do without you on breakfast. It's you're

1879
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: very kind to say so, but it's not one of

1880
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: those scans. It's to be perfectly frank, it's once again

1881
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: an acquiescence to certain people.

1882
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, one scan leads to another.

1883
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: That is true, I mean the potential. I mean, obviously

1884
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: when they scan you, it can be I'm anticipating literally nothing,

1885
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: but they could go, oh, I'll just get somebody else

1886
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: to come back in and have a look at that.

1887
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: That could change things materially out and bringing a counselor Yeah, exactly,

1888
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: but I'm anticipating just it's it's it's just a little

1889
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: once over. Lightly anyway, it's next week. Don't make me nervous,

1890
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: don't text me. I'm now nervous. Now I got an

1891
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: anxiety perform. How long have you been feeling so anxious? Exactly?

1892
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: Well since that text five minutes away.

1893
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: From not trending. Now with chemist.

1894
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: Day, now we've got Charlie Sheen.

1895
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 9: I love.

1896
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he went weird, but I love what

1897
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: he did previous pride. Anyway, Nick FLICKX has got a

1898
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: dokout about his life and it looks it's going to

1899
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: be revealing. It's cooled, Yi, Charlie, shame.

1900
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 15: How do I present this with any class?

1901
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 9: I think, Charlie, we're past that.

1902
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 15: Yeah, when you got a lot of shame about a

1903
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 15: lot of stuff, shame, shame is suffocating. I lit the fuse,

1904
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 15: you know, and my life turns into everything it's it

1905
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 15: wasn't supposed to be. There's only one person a live

1906
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 15: that has the answers to so many people's questions about me,

1907
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 15: and that did somebody call action?

1908
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 9: They need?

1909
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 14: They need going for speed?

1910
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: You wanted to like him because he was lovable, brilliant,

1911
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 2: had so charming and smart. Charlie is a pie baby

1912
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: pussy bitch.

1913
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 20: Is there going to be anything called limits?

1914
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Now?

1915
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: Sounds good? I mind. You might be had to lock

1916
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: him in the foot place. So Sean Penn's in there,

1917
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Chris Tucker, Denise Richards who he was married to for

1918
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 2: a period of time, John Cryer, he'll be interesting. Brooke Muller,

1919
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: he was also involved with her for a while. Chuck

1920
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: law who was He was the producer of the part.

1921
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 2: I can't even remember the name of the program. What

1922
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: was it called The California two and a half Men,

1923
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: of course it was. And Johnny Dipson there, Johnny Depp

1924
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 2: talking about Charlie Sheen. What if he can relate?

1925
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 18: Oh?

1926
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 2: The irony September ten on Netflix. We're not on Netflix.

1927
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: We're on the radio, which is just as well because

1928
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: it seems me access and it's by days of week

1929
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: six through nine, and that's how we roll. And we're

1930
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 2: never on spry Kia, which is good. Back tomorrow, Mond

1931
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: decide the All Blacks and the Warriors tonight. You're nervous

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 2: about the Warriors tonight. I'm not remotely nervous about the

1933
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: Warriors tonight. It'll be it'll be a punishing so that's

1934
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: all good anyway. You have a good weekend and we'll

1935
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: see you Monday. Happy Days.

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