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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 2: Zed b Hill, Dravt the Wall as they used to

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Speaker 2: only such Intendalca, Ricky Ponting and Jaques Kallis have scored

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Speaker 2: boy Rahul Dravid has I'm Jason Pinton, Shoe producer Andy

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Speaker 2: McDonald back alongside for twenty twenty five. We're here talking

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Speaker 2: sport until three. There's always around this time of the year,

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Speaker 2: plenty of cricket to talk about on the field. Blackapsby

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Speaker 2: Sri Lanka, third and final ODI from two o'clock this

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Speaker 2: afternoon to Eden. Part Mark Chapman going to join us

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Speaker 2: ahead of that one. Martin Guppdel meantime, will be honored

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Speaker 2: and plans are afoot to restructure Test cricket into two

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Speaker 2: tiers led by the power block of India, Australia and

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on it are well and truly encouraged as

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Speaker 2: well other matters around today. A huge blow for the

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Speaker 2: Warriors this week. Club captain Tohou Harris announced on Thursday

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Speaker 2: he's ending his playing career with immediate effect. Monty Vetham

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Speaker 2: on that and who is your choice to take over

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Speaker 2: the leadership of the side both Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC,

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Speaker 2: and a league men's action later today, the nixt play

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Speaker 2: forty five tonight New Zealand time. And speaking of Australia,

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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock and his regular slot around one forty five

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Speaker 2: Live Sport while we're on the air this afternoon. The

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Speaker 2: cricket obviously from two at Eden Park. Will keep eyes

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Speaker 2: on that for you and the ASB Classic. But as

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Speaker 2: you've heard in our sports news, the Doubles Fine featuring

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Speaker 2: start eleven thirty, but American veteran Rajiev Rahm has pulled

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Speaker 2: He was paired with fellow American Christian Harrison. Ram suffered

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Speaker 2: It means that Michael Venus and Croatian nicol and Mecktitch

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen with Marte Pavich as well. Unfortunately they're not

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Speaker 2: going to get to play the final. There's an exhibition

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Speaker 1: The schoons from the track, field and the court on

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Speaker 1: your home of sport, the GM Sport, where Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: news talksb One.

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Speaker 2: Of the big sporting stories of the week broke on Monday.

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Speaker 2: The Age in Australia reported that cricket officials from India,

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Speaker 2: Australia and England were meeting to discuss the possibility of

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Speaker 2: sports big players. The potential new structure would see Test

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Speaker 2: cricket split into two tiers. India, Australia England would be

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a very good idea for the

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Speaker 2: Struggle, So okay, so you don't think it will happen,

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Speaker 3: I think it did a few years ago when we

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Speaker 2: Afford to That's a very sad state of affairs, isn't it, Jim,

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Speaker 3: Well, what we're saying is really test cricket will survive,

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Speaker 2: The West Indies, Jim this incredible cricket nation that gave

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Speaker 3: Well, you could worry about South Africa similarly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: So if we do look forward, then Jim, what is

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, yes, I mean, you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: But goodness, gracious, dare I say it? News it It

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Speaker 2: because you kind of need a month, right, you need

432
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Speaker 2: a or at least three or four weeks if it's

433
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Speaker 2: going to be a meaningful series. The fifty over stuff

434
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Speaker 2: really interests me. That's a really interesting cushon for me.

435
00:25:08,067 --> 00:25:13,787
Speaker 2: It's relevance, particularly bilateral. Know what is it? How does

436
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Speaker 2: it become meaningful? And you're right, if we if we're

437
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Speaker 2: to save Test cricket, T twenty's here to stay. If

438
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Speaker 2: we're to save Test cricket, what does that mean for

439
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Speaker 2: the fifty over game?

440
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.

441
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Speaker 7: And also two Piney, I think what really kind of

442
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Speaker 7: points said is that when you go look at Test

443
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Speaker 7: cricket and you go look at the legends who have

444
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Speaker 7: played Test cricket to where we are now, I mean,

445
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Speaker 7: once came Williamson and all those guys retire, where's the

446
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Speaker 7: next where's the next crop of legends that have come through?

447
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Speaker 7: I mean you just look at Test cricket. It's because

448
00:25:43,627 --> 00:25:47,227
Speaker 7: T twenty is so saturated, it's says, yeah, what is

449
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Speaker 7: the generation going to be like going forward? Where it's

450
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Speaker 7: kind of right, who is you know that you know

451
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Speaker 7: you go look at Smith, Coley, Williamson and I can't

452
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Speaker 7: remember the other one, but you know, it's been near

453
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Speaker 7: our current legends of the test format. But what's it

454
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Speaker 7: going to be like in twenty years time?

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Speaker 6: Pointing It's just.

456
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Speaker 7: I love this wall, Matt, and I just don't want

457
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Speaker 7: it to see the overrun by greed where it's ruining

458
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Speaker 7: the game.

459
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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I agree. Look, yeah, Joe Roach. I

460
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Speaker 2: think Joe roaches the other one that you were that

461
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Speaker 2: you were searching for in terms of the big four.

462
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Speaker 2: Right now here. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, rich

463
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Speaker 2: As when I think of came Williamson, when I when

464
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Speaker 2: I when he retires and I think back of k

465
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Speaker 2: on Came Williamson, I will picture him in white clothing.

466
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Speaker 2: Same with Coley, same with Smith, same with Root. But

467
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Speaker 2: I fear that the next generation, our kids, when when they,

468
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Speaker 2: you know, look back at the big cricketing names from

469
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Speaker 2: their experience, they'll be wearing colored clothing and hitting a

470
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Speaker 2: white ball.

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Speaker 7: But I think you know, when you go look at

472
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Speaker 7: that top tier, I mean I know that when you

473
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Speaker 7: go look at the border Gavis to Traphy, Yes, there

474
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Speaker 7: was a lot of eyeballs but there's going to be

475
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Speaker 7: a merit that in some of these other countries, Like

476
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Speaker 7: you remember Pine we were the biggest nine ashes crowd

477
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Speaker 7: on a Boxing day test in twenty nineteen year we

478
00:27:03,907 --> 00:27:08,307
Speaker 7: got you know, we were defeated heavily, but you know

479
00:27:08,427 --> 00:27:10,667
Speaker 7: there's a merit that you know, we do tune up.

480
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Speaker 7: But the old saying goes. I mean you go look

481
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Speaker 7: at this current England series we had, I mean was overseas.

482
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Speaker 7: But you know, if we do love to test cricket,

483
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Speaker 7: and I think Harsha Bob they talked about on the ABC.

484
00:27:21,987 --> 00:27:24,107
Speaker 7: He was like, if you love it, then tune up

485
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Speaker 7: and go watch it. I think that is also Mary.

486
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Speaker 7: We can't go on about test cricket, but you know

487
00:27:29,507 --> 00:27:32,067
Speaker 7: we've got to action speak louder than words.

488
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Speaker 6: Don't they Timing?

489
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Speaker 7: I know five days people are working and stuff like that.

490
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Speaker 7: But if we want to say it, I think it's

491
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Speaker 7: a case of turning up and watching it and you know,

492
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Speaker 7: getting eyeballs on it. It's the same case of where

493
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Speaker 7: we are and you know we've got t v Z

494
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Speaker 7: and it's free to wear. I mean, you know, then

495
00:27:49,187 --> 00:27:51,627
Speaker 7: when the next deal comes up, I think a very good,

496
00:27:51,707 --> 00:27:53,907
Speaker 7: honest discussion says, hey, if we want to protect it,

497
00:27:54,507 --> 00:27:56,947
Speaker 7: I know it costs a bit of money, but when

498
00:27:56,947 --> 00:27:58,827
Speaker 7: I look at T twenty, I mean T twenty looks

499
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Speaker 7: after itself. But Test cricket needs to be on free

500
00:28:01,707 --> 00:28:03,987
Speaker 7: to wear. It needs to be. It needs more eyeballs

501
00:28:04,187 --> 00:28:05,587
Speaker 7: so people are watching the.

502
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Speaker 6: Game that moment.

503
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Speaker 2: Absolutely totally agree with that. Rich, Absolutely totally agree that

504
00:28:11,787 --> 00:28:14,267
Speaker 2: should be the new broadcast deal. Test matches are free

505
00:28:14,267 --> 00:28:16,947
Speaker 2: to wear. T twenty, as you take it's here, looks

506
00:28:16,987 --> 00:28:20,067
Speaker 2: after itself. People will pay to watch it although, you know,

507
00:28:20,587 --> 00:28:24,507
Speaker 2: and broadcasters like it because it's snackable. You know, it's

508
00:28:24,587 --> 00:28:29,227
Speaker 2: it's often played at night. They like it. But yeah,

509
00:28:29,507 --> 00:28:31,387
Speaker 2: Test cricket must be free to wear in the next

510
00:28:31,427 --> 00:28:34,987
Speaker 2: broadcast deal. You're right. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

511
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Speaker 2: eighty grant.

512
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Speaker 10: Hello, Happy new Year to your pony.

513
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Speaker 2: Happy new year, Grant. I'm not sure when we stop

514
00:28:42,907 --> 00:28:46,147
Speaker 2: saying this, but you know, the eleventh of January, I'll

515
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Speaker 2: let it pass.

516
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Speaker 10: Well first on you in the new year.

517
00:28:50,347 --> 00:28:53,147
Speaker 2: So fair enough, fair enough to fair enough.

518
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Now, I actually support the two tier system because

519
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Speaker 10: this old thinking that about the lower teams will benefit

520
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Speaker 10: by playing the top teams and that they will improve.

521
00:29:09,507 --> 00:29:13,187
Speaker 10: I think they will improve more the lower teams by

522
00:29:13,267 --> 00:29:17,707
Speaker 10: playing each other, having very close games and improving that way.

523
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Speaker 10: By getting threshed by you know, England, Australia and India

524
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Speaker 10: for example, Does that help them improve as much as

525
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Speaker 10: tight games against lower teams. I don't know, but definitely

526
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Speaker 10: I think there should be promotion relegation. Otherwise, what's the

527
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Speaker 10: point they're going to think, well, well, you know, we're

528
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Speaker 10: stuck in the lower tea forever.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess the counterpoint is that they're not getting thrashed.

530
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Speaker 2: They're not that they are competitive. The Western these beat

531
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Speaker 2: Australia in Australia last summer, so then you know, in

532
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Speaker 2: a Test match, so they're not getting thrashed. It's not

533
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Speaker 2: like rugby grant where you know, if New Zealand played Georgia,

534
00:29:57,547 --> 00:29:59,707
Speaker 2: we know that it's going to be a heavy win

535
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Speaker 2: for the All blacks. I think Test cricket's got enough

536
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Speaker 2: about it that that there are opportunities for the sides,

537
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Speaker 2: the so called second tier, to you know, to upset

538
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Speaker 2: the sides further up the tree. However, I do take

539
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Speaker 2: your point. I do. I do agree that in a

540
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Speaker 2: second tier for example, if it was the West Indies, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Ireland,

541
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Speaker 2: throwing a couple of others, the Netherlands, Scotland, perhaps I think,

542
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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think they would all improve

543
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Speaker 2: by playing one another and not always being a minnow

544
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Speaker 2: or an underdog.

545
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Speaker 10: And to my mind, the West Indies have improved the

546
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Speaker 10: last few years so that they could be sort of

547
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Speaker 10: in the lower ranks of the top tier. You know,

548
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Speaker 10: you never know, but and you know, I certainly I

549
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Speaker 10: don't know any other sport where certain teams are exempt

550
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Speaker 10: from promotion relegation. But I have to say, if either England,

551
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Speaker 10: India or Australia end up at the bottom of the

552
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Speaker 10: top tier any one year, I think we've got the

553
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Speaker 10: reader things to worry about. I think that's highly, highly unlikely.

554
00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:17,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but sport is sport, grant. All I'm saying

555
00:31:17,187 --> 00:31:21,707
Speaker 2: is that as soon as as soon as the scenario

556
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Speaker 2: comes to pass, and you and I have been following

557
00:31:24,307 --> 00:31:26,547
Speaker 2: sport for long enough to know that funny things happen

558
00:31:26,947 --> 00:31:30,427
Speaker 2: in sport, the moment there is even the sniff of

559
00:31:30,467 --> 00:31:33,147
Speaker 2: a threat of one of the top three dropping out

560
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Speaker 2: and being relegated, the whole thing will go in the bin.

561
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Speaker 2: It'll basically be there'll be. It might even be an

562
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Speaker 2: unwritten rule, or it might be a written rule. They

563
00:31:43,867 --> 00:31:46,667
Speaker 2: might say, hey, well, because Australia, England and India brings

564
00:31:46,707 --> 00:31:49,427
Speaker 2: so much to the table in terms of the money

565
00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:52,827
Speaker 2: that they swirl around the game. They are ring fenced

566
00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:56,267
Speaker 2: and Tier one. Tier one's always going to have India,

567
00:31:56,347 --> 00:31:59,587
Speaker 2: Australia and England in it. The other four of you, Yeah,

568
00:31:59,587 --> 00:32:03,187
Speaker 2: we'll play against you, no worries at all. But you know, India, England,

569
00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:07,187
Speaker 2: Australia could finish fifth, sixth, and seventh. What he's going down.

570
00:32:08,227 --> 00:32:12,867
Speaker 2: Nobody's getting relegated. Thanks grunt, appreciate it. Eighteen away from one,

571
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Speaker 2: we'll take a break, comeback with more of your course.

572
00:32:14,707 --> 00:32:18,187
Speaker 2: We'll talk this until one o'clock. We'll probably shift focus

573
00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:19,867
Speaker 2: after that. If you've been trying to get through and

574
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Speaker 2: haven't been able, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty spere

575
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Speaker 2: line there for you right now.

576
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Speaker 6: It's more than just a game.

577
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Speaker 2: Weekends for it.

578
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Speaker 1: With Jason Vine and GJ. Garnohomes, New Zealand's most trusted

579
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Speaker 1: home builder, News talks b.

580
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Speaker 2: It's our fourteen to one speed line. If you want

581
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Speaker 2: to jump aboard talk two tier Test cricket and what

582
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Speaker 2: that might look like for the future. I eight hundred

583
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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty lots of views here on text before

584
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Speaker 2: I get to those. If you're wondering about the doubles

585
00:32:46,627 --> 00:32:50,667
Speaker 2: final at the ASP Tennis Classic, unfortunately it has not

586
00:32:50,787 --> 00:32:54,707
Speaker 2: gone ahead. This was featuring Keewe Michael Venus, of course,

587
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Speaker 2: and his partner Croatian Nicola Mectic. Their opponents unfortunately had

588
00:33:01,627 --> 00:33:05,747
Speaker 2: to pull out. American veteran Rajiev Rahm picked up an

589
00:33:05,747 --> 00:33:08,387
Speaker 2: injury in large night's semi final, has been able to

590
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Speaker 2: overcome it. So they told the organizers this morning that

591
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Speaker 2: unfortunately they would not be able to participate in the

592
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Speaker 2: doubles final. So it's Venus and mekticch who take the title.

593
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Speaker 2: And they still call it a walkover, don't they. It's

594
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Speaker 2: their first title as a new combination. I'm sure they

595
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Speaker 2: would have preferred to have played the game and won

596
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Speaker 2: it that way, but they're having a exhibition match at

597
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Speaker 2: the moment out there on center court at Stanley Street,

598
00:33:36,307 --> 00:33:38,867
Speaker 2: waiting for the singles final a bit later on two

599
00:33:38,907 --> 00:33:47,547
Speaker 2: o'clock that starts Gallmorfice and Belgian ziezu Berghs. But unfortunately

600
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Speaker 2: for the crowd and for the American doubles combination of

601
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Speaker 2: Ram and Harrison, they are not going to be able

602
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Speaker 2: to participate. So congratulations, I guess are in are in

603
00:33:59,347 --> 00:34:01,707
Speaker 2: in order for Michael Venus, you've got to get to

604
00:34:01,747 --> 00:34:04,827
Speaker 2: the final, so well doun to him on starting twenty

605
00:34:04,867 --> 00:34:08,227
Speaker 2: twenty five in the winner circle. A couple of tech

606
00:34:08,307 --> 00:34:12,347
Speaker 2: through on the two tier cricket system party simple solution

607
00:34:12,427 --> 00:34:17,067
Speaker 2: on two fronts. First, promotion and relegation must happen. Secondly,

608
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Speaker 2: when I started playing MPC rugby in the eighties for

609
00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:23,747
Speaker 2: Otago we had to play four away games a year

610
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Speaker 2: against Division two and three teams. We played Mid Canterbury,

611
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Speaker 2: South Canterbury, North Otago, Marlborough and West Coast at their ground,

612
00:34:32,587 --> 00:34:35,987
Speaker 2: they got big crowds, etc. So my solution the top

613
00:34:36,067 --> 00:34:40,907
Speaker 2: tier must play three away tests per year against Tier

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Speaker 2: two teams. Simple. I love the idea. Only my only

615
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Speaker 2: counterpoint would be when would be when? Unlike rugby where

616
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Speaker 2: you can drop in for the day and play against

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Speaker 2: Mid Canterbury, South Canbury, North Otago as an Otago team

618
00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:04,987
Speaker 2: can Australia just drop into Zimbabwe and play a Test match.

619
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Speaker 2: You probably need four or five days either side, or

620
00:35:08,827 --> 00:35:13,107
Speaker 2: certainly leading in travel on the other side, in an

621
00:35:13,147 --> 00:35:17,667
Speaker 2: already congested calendar where Test cricket is fighting for space.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder how it would happen. I love the concept.

623
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Speaker 2: I love the concept because under the two tear proposal,

624
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Speaker 2: the second tier will just really suffer for me. And

625
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe it is a case of needing the

626
00:35:36,187 --> 00:35:42,867
Speaker 2: Big three to continually pull the big TV audiences that

627
00:35:42,987 --> 00:35:47,347
Speaker 2: get the TV money that keeps the sport alive globally.

628
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:52,467
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we need. I just really fear for

629
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Speaker 2: what it means for the future red ball aspirations and

630
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Speaker 2: landscape of the second teer nations and the West Indies

631
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Speaker 2: is the one you land on because of their storied

632
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Speaker 2: history and read B Cricket, some of those names I

633
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:11,147
Speaker 2: mentioned before that you know, the Westerndies teams of the

634
00:36:11,187 --> 00:36:15,147
Speaker 2: eighties and Dallas rang earlier talked about seeing Gary Sobers.

635
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Speaker 2: I know we get misty eyed in nostalgic, but I

636
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Speaker 2: think that's okay. I think that's okay. And like I

637
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Speaker 2: said to Rich on the phone before, when I think

638
00:36:24,787 --> 00:36:29,027
Speaker 2: back of the heroes and the players that I've enjoyed

639
00:36:29,067 --> 00:36:33,867
Speaker 2: watching the most play cricket, I picture them in white clothing.

640
00:36:34,627 --> 00:36:37,387
Speaker 2: Those days are rapidly I fear coming to an end.

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Speaker 2: When young cricket fans today, when they look back and

642
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Speaker 2: remember rich and Ravendra in thirty years from now, they're

643
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Speaker 2: just as likely to picture him wearing colored clothing. And

644
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Speaker 2: it might not even be New Zealand's clothing. It might

645
00:36:56,587 --> 00:37:04,147
Speaker 2: be ipl clothing. Again. Misty eyed, nostalgic perhaps, but history

646
00:37:05,107 --> 00:37:10,227
Speaker 2: is worth preserving and is worth building upon. Text tes

647
00:37:10,227 --> 00:37:12,667
Speaker 2: say goodbye to one day cricket if that means T

648
00:37:12,667 --> 00:37:16,547
Speaker 2: twenty and Test cricket gets them playing more cricket fans

649
00:37:16,587 --> 00:37:19,187
Speaker 2: generally love Test cricket. Yeah, and I hope that continues

650
00:37:19,227 --> 00:37:21,387
Speaker 2: the way Test cricket has played these days. Surely it's

651
00:37:21,347 --> 00:37:24,107
Speaker 2: a marketable product, says this one. Yesaid, yeah, I agree.

652
00:37:24,347 --> 00:37:27,067
Speaker 2: I greet the way England are playing the game. Look

653
00:37:27,067 --> 00:37:29,987
Speaker 2: at this Australian Indian Test series that has just finished.

654
00:37:29,987 --> 00:37:32,307
Speaker 2: And I know that is a series between two of

655
00:37:32,307 --> 00:37:35,987
Speaker 2: the top three. I get that, but it was compelling viewing.

656
00:37:37,027 --> 00:37:42,027
Speaker 2: It was a great watch. Shawn says twenty twenty should

657
00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:44,627
Speaker 2: be domestic only except for a handful of warm up

658
00:37:44,667 --> 00:37:50,467
Speaker 2: games before a World Cup. I'm in favor. Furthermore, says

659
00:37:50,507 --> 00:37:53,067
Speaker 2: Sean of the two tier system, but the minnows should

660
00:37:53,067 --> 00:37:58,387
Speaker 2: get tours of Australia and England's domestic teams to build

661
00:37:58,467 --> 00:38:02,187
Speaker 2: their skills. Interesting, Tony, any view on this?

662
00:38:03,467 --> 00:38:06,787
Speaker 9: Yes, I think it's a good idea. And my plan

663
00:38:06,907 --> 00:38:09,227
Speaker 9: would be to have a top tier of the so

664
00:38:09,347 --> 00:38:13,027
Speaker 9: called top three and the fourth team. There would have

665
00:38:13,107 --> 00:38:16,147
Speaker 9: to be a fourth team so that obviously two of

666
00:38:16,187 --> 00:38:18,027
Speaker 9: the three would play each other and the other one

667
00:38:18,027 --> 00:38:20,347
Speaker 9: would have nothing to do all the time, So a

668
00:38:20,467 --> 00:38:22,987
Speaker 9: fourth team in there and that fourth place would come

669
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Speaker 9: from a sort of I don't know how they quite

670
00:38:25,107 --> 00:38:28,587
Speaker 9: would keeping a league table of the second tier. And

671
00:38:29,227 --> 00:38:32,147
Speaker 9: you know, I started watching cricket as a small boy.

672
00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:34,747
Speaker 9: I remember watching Clive Mooyd while he was playing in

673
00:38:34,787 --> 00:38:37,387
Speaker 9: the Lancashire League. So a town called has win game

674
00:38:37,587 --> 00:38:41,507
Speaker 9: against Mike Town Cliffero. They didn't get paid if he

675
00:38:41,587 --> 00:38:44,267
Speaker 9: scored fifty, for that's when it could if he scored

676
00:38:44,347 --> 00:38:47,067
Speaker 9: fifteen and anybody else that went now for a bit

677
00:38:47,107 --> 00:38:50,307
Speaker 9: of a bonness. I think he had a second job somewhere,

678
00:38:50,947 --> 00:38:53,227
Speaker 9: maybe the post office or a hospital something like that.

679
00:38:54,907 --> 00:38:57,747
Speaker 2: Are you suggesting, yeah, Tony, are you suggesting that there's

680
00:38:58,107 --> 00:39:01,627
Speaker 2: so that England, Australia, in India, if permanent residents in

681
00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:04,547
Speaker 2: the top tier, they're joined by one other team who

682
00:39:04,627 --> 00:39:08,267
Speaker 2: earns the right across playing in the second tier for

683
00:39:08,307 --> 00:39:09,587
Speaker 2: the right to join them at the top.

684
00:39:10,947 --> 00:39:13,867
Speaker 9: For us, there's probably a two year cycle, probably so

685
00:39:13,947 --> 00:39:16,107
Speaker 9: that they've got enough time the second tier, have got

686
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:19,627
Speaker 9: enough time to play each other, and then then they've

687
00:39:19,627 --> 00:39:24,707
Speaker 9: got something to play for and they encouraged people. I

688
00:39:24,747 --> 00:39:28,787
Speaker 9: started watching cricket over sixty years ago watching Clive Lloyd

689
00:39:28,827 --> 00:39:31,907
Speaker 9: in the town team's little play areas. Then he played

690
00:39:31,947 --> 00:39:34,947
Speaker 9: for Lancashire, and of course he played for the West Indies.

691
00:39:35,467 --> 00:39:38,347
Speaker 9: I remember in batting with Harry Pillings, a guy who

692
00:39:38,427 --> 00:39:41,307
Speaker 9: wasn't He would be struggling to reach five feet that

693
00:39:41,387 --> 00:39:43,587
Speaker 9: he ought in the batting and you see the pair

694
00:39:43,627 --> 00:39:46,507
Speaker 9: of them running and boards with pilling was running three

695
00:39:46,507 --> 00:39:49,107
Speaker 9: strides to one of lawyers, which I.

696
00:39:50,427 --> 00:39:51,987
Speaker 2: Love these stories, but I have to move god a

697
00:39:52,027 --> 00:39:54,507
Speaker 2: air break to play interesting conscious. So the top tier

698
00:39:54,627 --> 00:39:57,387
Speaker 2: there's only four teams. Nothing should be off the table

699
00:39:57,427 --> 00:39:59,067
Speaker 2: seven to one, four to one final. A couple of

700
00:39:59,067 --> 00:40:00,787
Speaker 2: takes both on the same subject. Actually, part of the

701
00:40:00,827 --> 00:40:03,467
Speaker 2: only cricketing changes I'd make would be top Test matches

702
00:40:03,507 --> 00:40:05,347
Speaker 2: down to four days and get rid of one days.

703
00:40:05,747 --> 00:40:08,347
Speaker 2: Thanks Tony and Stephen says, yeah, let's shorten the playing

704
00:40:08,347 --> 00:40:11,267
Speaker 2: time of Test cricket two three to four days, three days,

705
00:40:11,307 --> 00:40:14,147
Speaker 2: kriky and produce wickets to get results. I don't even

706
00:40:14,147 --> 00:40:15,587
Speaker 2: think you need the wickets at the moment. Step and

707
00:40:15,627 --> 00:40:17,987
Speaker 2: the attitude the Test cricketers are bringing to the game

708
00:40:17,987 --> 00:40:20,387
Speaker 2: of Test crickets enough to get the results across four days.

709
00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,307
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a discussion for another day. Thanks for your

710
00:40:23,307 --> 00:40:26,587
Speaker 2: calls and contributions. More cricket after one. Mark Chapman going

711
00:40:26,627 --> 00:40:28,587
Speaker 2: to join us ahead of the third and final one

712
00:40:28,667 --> 00:40:31,387
Speaker 2: day between the black Caps and Sri Lanka this afternoon on.

713
00:40:31,427 --> 00:40:32,907
Speaker 2: For the last two or three days, I've been watching

714
00:40:32,907 --> 00:40:36,067
Speaker 2: on TV. They've had qualifying and they've had a couple

715
00:40:36,107 --> 00:40:39,507
Speaker 2: of these celebrity matches And as soon as I see

716
00:40:39,547 --> 00:40:41,027
Speaker 2: it come up on the you know when you flick

717
00:40:41,027 --> 00:40:43,387
Speaker 2: a channel and it comes up with a description along

718
00:40:43,427 --> 00:40:45,707
Speaker 2: the bottom it says celebrity match. I just keep I

719
00:40:45,787 --> 00:40:48,507
Speaker 2: just keep scrolling. I just don't stop for that sort

720
00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:51,747
Speaker 2: of thing. Unfortunately, I get I get it. I understand

721
00:40:51,827 --> 00:40:55,987
Speaker 2: how they want to kind of you know, expand to

722
00:40:56,307 --> 00:40:58,227
Speaker 2: bring in new audiences and stuff like that. But I'm

723
00:40:58,227 --> 00:40:59,667
Speaker 2: here for the real So you just tell us you

724
00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:03,827
Speaker 2: weren't invited. Look, I did receive an invitation to take

725
00:41:03,867 --> 00:41:08,507
Speaker 2: part in the celebrity match. You need to stop this

726
00:41:08,627 --> 00:41:11,387
Speaker 2: lying business, Jason. It doesn't wear well on you. Mate.

727
00:41:11,627 --> 00:41:14,107
Speaker 2: It's a bit early in twenty twenty five to be fibbing,

728
00:41:14,307 --> 00:41:18,027
Speaker 2: isn't it just a bit Now? I'm here for the

729
00:41:18,067 --> 00:41:21,027
Speaker 2: real stuff, which, as I say, gets underway tomorrow. Old

730
00:41:21,027 --> 00:41:23,867
Speaker 2: Freedom it. I'm not the biggest tennis fan, but I

731
00:41:23,907 --> 00:41:25,827
Speaker 2: do love the majors and I think of the Australian

732
00:41:25,867 --> 00:41:28,827
Speaker 2: Open is my favorite major. I know for some people

733
00:41:28,827 --> 00:41:32,627
Speaker 2: they love the prestige and the history of Wimbledon, you know,

734
00:41:32,947 --> 00:41:37,147
Speaker 2: the clay courts of Roland Garross and the season ending major,

735
00:41:37,827 --> 00:41:39,747
Speaker 2: the US Open. But for me, it's the Aussie Open,

736
00:41:40,747 --> 00:41:43,147
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm looking forward to it getting under way.

737
00:41:43,147 --> 00:41:45,227
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk more about this with Adam Peacock,

738
00:41:45,427 --> 00:41:47,507
Speaker 2: who was involved in coverage of the Aussie Open as

739
00:41:47,507 --> 00:41:49,987
Speaker 2: well as being part of our show. He's along at

740
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Speaker 2: around one forty or so, shall we say, Nick Carryos.

741
00:41:54,027 --> 00:41:56,667
Speaker 2: I wonder how far he'll go. No doubt whenever he

742
00:41:56,667 --> 00:42:00,067
Speaker 2: plays he'll have massive crowds. But what sort of shape

743
00:42:00,107 --> 00:42:03,547
Speaker 2: is he in? Is Novak Djokovic the favorite? A lot

744
00:42:03,587 --> 00:42:06,867
Speaker 2: of Australian open to talk with Adam Peacock in terms

745
00:42:06,867 --> 00:42:09,187
Speaker 2: of the ASB Classic. This hour will also get a

746
00:42:09,187 --> 00:42:13,787
Speaker 2: preview of the singles final of the ASB Classic. This

747
00:42:13,867 --> 00:42:17,467
Speaker 2: is I don't think could anyone have predicted this final

748
00:42:17,747 --> 00:42:19,867
Speaker 2: at the front end of the week. Could anybody have said,

749
00:42:19,867 --> 00:42:21,427
Speaker 2: you know what the final is going to be between

750
00:42:21,627 --> 00:42:24,547
Speaker 2: a Belgian qualifier and the oldest man in the field.

751
00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:28,827
Speaker 2: Well that's what we've got. Zie zu Bergs and gam

752
00:42:28,827 --> 00:42:31,107
Speaker 2: On Feess set to go at it from two o'clock

753
00:42:31,147 --> 00:42:33,467
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Lee Radovanovitch going to join us to preview

754
00:42:33,507 --> 00:42:37,307
Speaker 2: that one. Also this hour we've got a bit of

755
00:42:37,307 --> 00:42:40,067
Speaker 2: football for you and other bits and pieces too, but

756
00:42:40,187 --> 00:42:42,947
Speaker 2: we're going to start with cricket because the third and

757
00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:46,187
Speaker 2: final One day International black Caps be Sri Lanka Eden

758
00:42:46,267 --> 00:42:49,267
Speaker 2: Park starts at two o'clock this afternoon. Black Caps batsman

759
00:42:49,347 --> 00:42:52,827
Speaker 2: Mark Chapman has had a very good series twenty nine

760
00:42:52,947 --> 00:42:54,947
Speaker 2: not out in the first game at the basin seventy

761
00:42:55,027 --> 00:42:58,187
Speaker 2: nine off sixty three balls. In game two in Hamilton.

762
00:42:59,307 --> 00:43:03,587
Speaker 11: Picked up and all the way for Sex they both

763
00:43:03,987 --> 00:43:07,867
Speaker 11: bring up fifty's with six as these two are in

764
00:43:07,947 --> 00:43:12,107
Speaker 11: control out there, and that's also the one hundred partnership

765
00:43:12,187 --> 00:43:12,987
Speaker 11: between these two.

766
00:43:13,227 --> 00:43:15,747
Speaker 2: Mark Chapman with us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for taking

767
00:43:15,787 --> 00:43:18,067
Speaker 2: the time. Mark. You've already won the series two Nils,

768
00:43:18,147 --> 00:43:20,907
Speaker 2: so this is effectively a dead rubber. So how do

769
00:43:20,947 --> 00:43:24,267
Speaker 2: you keep your standards high ahead of game three this afternoon?

770
00:43:25,427 --> 00:43:25,627
Speaker 12: Yeah?

771
00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:28,507
Speaker 8: Good ed, Jason. Yeah, I mean it's been a great

772
00:43:29,067 --> 00:43:32,227
Speaker 8: white ball series both at Tea twenty and the one days. Obviously,

773
00:43:32,267 --> 00:43:34,787
Speaker 8: we've played some really good crickets so far and you know,

774
00:43:34,787 --> 00:43:36,987
Speaker 8: I guess for us it's about maintaining our standards and

775
00:43:37,627 --> 00:43:41,107
Speaker 8: basically the boys are pretty fired up for another game

776
00:43:41,147 --> 00:43:45,147
Speaker 8: today and hopefully we can put it up another good persformance.

777
00:43:45,427 --> 00:43:47,747
Speaker 2: You've featured prominently in the first two games with the

778
00:43:47,787 --> 00:43:50,507
Speaker 2: bad good partnerships with both open. There's actually eighty seven

779
00:43:50,547 --> 00:43:52,467
Speaker 2: unbeaten with Will Young at the base in one hundred

780
00:43:52,507 --> 00:43:56,147
Speaker 2: and twelve with Rich and Ravendra in Hamilton. Interested to

781
00:43:56,187 --> 00:43:59,867
Speaker 2: know how similar or different those two are as batting partners.

782
00:44:01,587 --> 00:44:05,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's been awesome to be at

783
00:44:05,947 --> 00:44:09,947
Speaker 8: the top and be amongst some runs with YANGI and Rutch,

784
00:44:09,987 --> 00:44:13,747
Speaker 8: and obviously both of them are planting beautifully. But yeah,

785
00:44:13,827 --> 00:44:17,107
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess, I guess both have their different styles.

786
00:44:17,147 --> 00:44:20,267
Speaker 8: Obviously one's left handed, ones right handed, but I mean

787
00:44:20,307 --> 00:44:21,987
Speaker 8: it's a pleasure to bet with both. Both are very

788
00:44:21,987 --> 00:44:24,227
Speaker 8: relaxed at the crease, and you know, it's just about

789
00:44:24,227 --> 00:44:25,827
Speaker 8: going out there and just enjoying ourselves.

790
00:44:25,907 --> 00:44:29,147
Speaker 2: Really, do you find personally that the T twenty and

791
00:44:29,147 --> 00:44:32,187
Speaker 2: fifty over games complement each other in terms of the

792
00:44:32,187 --> 00:44:35,027
Speaker 2: way that you go about building an innings?

793
00:44:36,547 --> 00:44:38,987
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I guess I've always been probably more

794
00:44:39,147 --> 00:44:42,627
Speaker 8: more attacking and attacking style of players are probably lean

795
00:44:42,827 --> 00:44:45,947
Speaker 8: more towards the white Bull formats, but you know, I

796
00:44:45,987 --> 00:44:49,507
Speaker 8: still enjoy playing my Red Bull too, So yeah, it's

797
00:44:49,587 --> 00:44:51,387
Speaker 8: been nice to have been included in some Red Bull

798
00:44:51,427 --> 00:44:52,147
Speaker 8: squads recently.

799
00:44:53,067 --> 00:44:54,747
Speaker 2: And in terms of the white ball when you had

800
00:44:54,787 --> 00:44:57,387
Speaker 2: to move so quickly and do have to domestically as well.

801
00:44:57,427 --> 00:45:00,787
Speaker 2: Between twenty over cricket tea twenty cricket and fifty over games,

802
00:45:01,187 --> 00:45:04,667
Speaker 2: is it other two quite complementary. Do you find yourself

803
00:45:04,707 --> 00:45:07,547
Speaker 2: doing things differently in the the over game, for example,

804
00:45:07,627 --> 00:45:08,707
Speaker 2: as opposed to T twenty.

805
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:12,507
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, you know, sort of, as as time's

806
00:45:12,547 --> 00:45:16,907
Speaker 8: gone on, there's actually it's there's formats actually become quite

807
00:45:16,907 --> 00:45:19,667
Speaker 8: different in the sense that you know, fifty overs is

808
00:45:19,667 --> 00:45:21,987
Speaker 8: two and a half times as long as a T twenty,

809
00:45:22,027 --> 00:45:24,307
Speaker 8: so you've actually got a lot more time than you think.

810
00:45:25,267 --> 00:45:27,947
Speaker 8: So I mean that takes a little bit of adjusting

811
00:45:27,987 --> 00:45:30,227
Speaker 8: to and you know, you probably just don't need to

812
00:45:30,227 --> 00:45:33,107
Speaker 8: take as many risks as early as you think, just

813
00:45:33,107 --> 00:45:34,267
Speaker 8: because there is so much time.

814
00:45:34,667 --> 00:45:36,627
Speaker 2: Do you still feel though you need to be striking

815
00:45:36,627 --> 00:45:39,187
Speaker 2: at one hundred plus even in the fifty over stuff?

816
00:45:39,187 --> 00:45:41,107
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you do in T twenty, but I

817
00:45:41,147 --> 00:45:43,227
Speaker 2: mean your numbers are up over one hundred striking and

818
00:45:43,267 --> 00:45:45,387
Speaker 2: fifty over cricket as well. Is that kind of do

819
00:45:45,427 --> 00:45:47,347
Speaker 2: you feel that it's important that you're going to run

820
00:45:47,387 --> 00:45:49,027
Speaker 2: a ball at least? Yeah?

821
00:45:49,027 --> 00:45:52,067
Speaker 8: I think I think these days, I think being around

822
00:45:52,067 --> 00:45:54,627
Speaker 8: one hundred strike rate is probably becoming more more of

823
00:45:54,667 --> 00:45:57,947
Speaker 8: the norm if anything. And I think you know, there's

824
00:45:57,987 --> 00:46:00,187
Speaker 8: slight differences in terms of one day cricket. You've got

825
00:46:00,227 --> 00:46:02,907
Speaker 8: an extra fielder in the circle, so you always feel

826
00:46:02,947 --> 00:46:05,707
Speaker 8: like you've got a boundary option as well, so you

827
00:46:05,747 --> 00:46:09,627
Speaker 8: know when when it comes time to push the accelerator pedal,

828
00:46:09,627 --> 00:46:11,747
Speaker 8: you've always got options to find boundaries too, which is

829
00:46:11,747 --> 00:46:12,387
Speaker 8: pretty helpful.

830
00:46:12,867 --> 00:46:15,067
Speaker 2: And betting it three you've betted there in both the

831
00:46:15,107 --> 00:46:17,467
Speaker 2: t twenty one days against Sri Lanka. Is that your

832
00:46:17,507 --> 00:46:19,867
Speaker 2: absolute preference is that we you feel most at home.

833
00:46:21,707 --> 00:46:23,587
Speaker 8: I mean, to be honest, I've probably betted more in

834
00:46:23,627 --> 00:46:27,547
Speaker 8: the middle Fine's own and domestic, but to be fair,

835
00:46:27,547 --> 00:46:30,667
Speaker 8: domestically and internationally, I've betted up and down the order

836
00:46:30,707 --> 00:46:32,987
Speaker 8: for both Auckland and He's inn So I mean, I

837
00:46:33,027 --> 00:46:36,147
Speaker 8: see myself as someone who's reasonably versatile and able to

838
00:46:36,827 --> 00:46:40,147
Speaker 8: adapt to different positions, and I guess sometimes internationally it's

839
00:46:40,187 --> 00:46:42,747
Speaker 8: just about where the gap opens up and trying to

840
00:46:42,747 --> 00:46:44,387
Speaker 8: take a chance in certain positions.

841
00:46:44,747 --> 00:46:46,387
Speaker 2: And I know we're here to talk about the white

842
00:46:46,427 --> 00:46:48,787
Speaker 2: ball series, but can I ask you about your innings

843
00:46:48,787 --> 00:46:52,387
Speaker 2: and the planket shield for Aukland against Canterbury two seven

844
00:46:52,547 --> 00:46:54,547
Speaker 2: six What an innings man? How do you reflect on that?

845
00:46:56,067 --> 00:47:00,027
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, I guess it was Yeah, yeah, I hadn't

846
00:47:00,067 --> 00:47:02,987
Speaker 8: played red ball in a while, and you know, obviously

847
00:47:02,987 --> 00:47:06,107
Speaker 8: took some confidence of being included in the test squad.

848
00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:08,427
Speaker 8: To be honest, I just sort of just came back

849
00:47:08,467 --> 00:47:11,067
Speaker 8: and without much expectation and just try to play quite

850
00:47:11,107 --> 00:47:13,827
Speaker 8: sort of freely, and thankfully we're on a pretty good

851
00:47:13,827 --> 00:47:17,267
Speaker 8: in park surface, which always helps them. But yeah, about

852
00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:20,387
Speaker 8: that period of time as yes, something I haven't done

853
00:47:20,507 --> 00:47:22,347
Speaker 8: that much, but you know, it's sort of one of

854
00:47:22,347 --> 00:47:24,147
Speaker 8: those things that sort of was buy In the moment

855
00:47:24,187 --> 00:47:26,227
Speaker 8: you're reflecting, you go, wow, that was you know, it's

856
00:47:26,227 --> 00:47:26,747
Speaker 8: pretty cool.

857
00:47:27,067 --> 00:47:29,427
Speaker 2: Did you add any stage? You know, I don't know

858
00:47:29,467 --> 00:47:31,067
Speaker 2: what this is like, but when you get to forty

859
00:47:31,107 --> 00:47:32,987
Speaker 2: two fifty, do you stop thinking about three hundred?

860
00:47:35,547 --> 00:47:37,467
Speaker 8: Yeah, a few people ask me that. To be honest,

861
00:47:38,307 --> 00:47:40,667
Speaker 8: in the moment, when you're sort of you've been out

862
00:47:40,667 --> 00:47:42,987
Speaker 8: there for that long, you're sort of feeling a little

863
00:47:42,987 --> 00:47:45,547
Speaker 8: bit worse aware, so you're sort of to be honest

864
00:47:45,587 --> 00:47:47,747
Speaker 8: by it. By the end of it, they're almost got

865
00:47:47,787 --> 00:47:49,547
Speaker 8: everyone on the boundary, so it's just trying to hit

866
00:47:49,587 --> 00:47:51,187
Speaker 8: every It was almost at the end it was trying

867
00:47:51,187 --> 00:47:52,707
Speaker 8: to play a T twenty. It's trying to hit every

868
00:47:52,707 --> 00:47:54,907
Speaker 8: ball for six and you're thinking about declaration all that

869
00:47:54,947 --> 00:47:58,187
Speaker 8: sort of stuff. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean

870
00:47:58,307 --> 00:48:00,347
Speaker 8: three hundred would have been amazing, But to be honest,

871
00:48:00,347 --> 00:48:01,867
Speaker 8: I'm not complaining with two seventy six.

872
00:48:01,947 --> 00:48:04,667
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't imagine so, and just just on the

873
00:48:04,707 --> 00:48:06,867
Speaker 2: red bull stuff, as you say, included in ten squads

874
00:48:07,307 --> 00:48:10,987
Speaker 2: you know recently, do you have strong red ball ambitions

875
00:48:10,987 --> 00:48:11,747
Speaker 2: for New Zealand?

876
00:48:12,747 --> 00:48:12,907
Speaker 6: Yeah?

877
00:48:12,947 --> 00:48:16,587
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I mean I've played first class cricket my whole career.

878
00:48:17,507 --> 00:48:19,787
Speaker 8: You know, I feel like of you know, put some

879
00:48:19,827 --> 00:48:22,627
Speaker 8: decent performances up over the years, and I guess it's

880
00:48:22,627 --> 00:48:24,787
Speaker 8: sort of just been one of those things where I

881
00:48:24,827 --> 00:48:27,427
Speaker 8: hadn't played as much red bull cricket as some other guys,

882
00:48:27,427 --> 00:48:29,987
Speaker 8: potentially just because I've been away with the white ball

883
00:48:29,987 --> 00:48:33,907
Speaker 8: teams quite often. So yeah, certainly it's certainly something I'm

884
00:48:33,907 --> 00:48:35,027
Speaker 8: still pushing for at this stage.

885
00:48:35,027 --> 00:48:36,907
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And just back to the one days, I mean

886
00:48:36,947 --> 00:48:38,547
Speaker 2: you've had to be a bit patient there as well,

887
00:48:38,867 --> 00:48:40,467
Speaker 2: you know, t twenties. You know you're up in near

888
00:48:40,507 --> 00:48:42,467
Speaker 2: eighty odd games now for New Zealand, but you know

889
00:48:42,587 --> 00:48:45,307
Speaker 2: one day is your debud. What twenty fifteen got one

890
00:48:45,347 --> 00:48:48,427
Speaker 2: hundred on debut, But the opportunities haven't always been as

891
00:48:48,427 --> 00:48:50,187
Speaker 2: frequent as they have been in T twenties. Has it

892
00:48:50,227 --> 00:48:52,507
Speaker 2: been challenging at all to be patient in the fifty

893
00:48:52,547 --> 00:48:53,027
Speaker 2: over stuff?

894
00:48:54,587 --> 00:48:56,507
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's just been one of those things where,

895
00:48:56,587 --> 00:48:58,387
Speaker 8: you know, similar to the Test squad, the team has

896
00:48:58,427 --> 00:49:01,147
Speaker 8: been so settled for such a long period of time

897
00:49:01,267 --> 00:49:03,307
Speaker 8: and you know, had a lot of success as well.

898
00:49:03,427 --> 00:49:06,107
Speaker 8: So I mean I'm not the only one that's had

899
00:49:06,187 --> 00:49:09,147
Speaker 8: to wait a while, you know, wait in the wings.

900
00:49:09,187 --> 00:49:11,187
Speaker 8: You know, you look at Matt Henry, someone who spent

901
00:49:11,267 --> 00:49:13,427
Speaker 8: a lot of time on the bench, and also Will

902
00:49:13,507 --> 00:49:16,707
Speaker 8: Young and I guess you're seeing those guys are starting

903
00:49:16,787 --> 00:49:19,907
Speaker 8: to show their skills on the international stage. So yeah,

904
00:49:20,187 --> 00:49:22,027
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I guess you have to be patient,

905
00:49:22,027 --> 00:49:23,747
Speaker 8: but everyone has to be patient at some stage in

906
00:49:23,827 --> 00:49:25,987
Speaker 8: their careas So yeah, just grateful that I'm out there

907
00:49:25,987 --> 00:49:26,427
Speaker 8: at the moment.

908
00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:28,107
Speaker 2: And do you feel like, especially in the in the

909
00:49:28,147 --> 00:49:30,307
Speaker 2: white ball stuff and probably more so in the T twenty,

910
00:49:30,307 --> 00:49:32,907
Speaker 2: that there is a bit of a enough changing of

911
00:49:32,947 --> 00:49:34,267
Speaker 2: the guards the right word, but a bit of a

912
00:49:34,267 --> 00:49:37,067
Speaker 2: transitional stage. You know, the squad that plays for Lanka,

913
00:49:37,107 --> 00:49:40,107
Speaker 2: Tim Robinson is in there, Mitch Hayes, Zach Folks and others.

914
00:49:40,587 --> 00:49:42,307
Speaker 2: You know, Jacob Duffy getting a decent run now, does

915
00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:43,827
Speaker 2: it feel look a bit of a changing of the guard.

916
00:49:45,067 --> 00:49:48,947
Speaker 8: Yeah, i'd say so. I think you know, you look

917
00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:51,307
Speaker 8: at the team now and you know there's there's no

918
00:49:51,347 --> 00:49:53,427
Speaker 8: Willings and there's no sound that there's no Bolt and

919
00:49:53,987 --> 00:49:56,507
Speaker 8: you know, those guys feel pretty iconic when you think

920
00:49:56,507 --> 00:49:58,707
Speaker 8: of New Zealand cricket and you know, now it's the

921
00:49:58,787 --> 00:50:02,947
Speaker 8: revender As, the Santas, the Nathan Smiths of the world

922
00:50:03,027 --> 00:50:05,027
Speaker 8: that are now coming to the fore. And I think,

923
00:50:05,547 --> 00:50:08,467
Speaker 8: you know, what's the encouraging is that, you know, there's

924
00:50:08,507 --> 00:50:11,187
Speaker 8: been some amazing performances as well from from a lot

925
00:50:11,227 --> 00:50:13,147
Speaker 8: of those guys that are stepping into those roles. So

926
00:50:13,627 --> 00:50:15,947
Speaker 8: I mean there's always going to be some some periods

927
00:50:15,947 --> 00:50:17,907
Speaker 8: where you go through a bit of change and you're

928
00:50:17,947 --> 00:50:21,627
Speaker 8: finding finding the combinations that work. But on the whole,

929
00:50:21,667 --> 00:50:23,947
Speaker 8: I think it's been awesome to see the way that

930
00:50:24,067 --> 00:50:26,587
Speaker 8: the different faces have stepped into the team and done well.

931
00:50:26,787 --> 00:50:28,787
Speaker 2: Did you bet Nathan Smith to take that catch the

932
00:50:28,827 --> 00:50:32,027
Speaker 2: other night? Did you always feel confident he'd pouch it?

933
00:50:32,667 --> 00:50:34,867
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a good mover, He's a he's a good mover.

934
00:50:34,907 --> 00:50:35,427
Speaker 9: In the field.

935
00:50:35,627 --> 00:50:37,627
Speaker 8: He's pretty agile, he's got a good arm, so yeah,

936
00:50:37,627 --> 00:50:38,107
Speaker 8: we backed him.

937
00:50:38,107 --> 00:50:40,387
Speaker 2: All the good stuff, all right. And after this obviously

938
00:50:40,427 --> 00:50:44,467
Speaker 2: Champions Trophy squad named on Sunday keen to be involved

939
00:50:44,467 --> 00:50:46,587
Speaker 2: obviously and what should be a very exciting tournament.

940
00:50:47,387 --> 00:50:52,547
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah selected, yeah, between the best

941
00:50:52,827 --> 00:50:54,667
Speaker 8: forward and you know, I think we'll have a pretty

942
00:50:54,667 --> 00:50:55,227
Speaker 8: strong team.

943
00:50:55,827 --> 00:50:57,827
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Rles going well for you at the moment, Mark,

944
00:50:57,827 --> 00:50:59,267
Speaker 2: thanks indeed for chatting to us. All the best and

945
00:50:59,307 --> 00:51:02,587
Speaker 2: od I three this afternoon brilliant, Thanks Jason, I thank

946
00:51:02,587 --> 00:51:05,227
Speaker 2: you Mark, Mark Chapman. Then ahead of od I three

947
00:51:05,307 --> 00:51:07,467
Speaker 2: two o'clock this afternoon in Eden Park. By the sounds

948
00:51:07,467 --> 00:51:09,947
Speaker 2: of it, the weather's good for both that and for

949
00:51:09,987 --> 00:51:12,707
Speaker 2: the tennis both underway at two o'clock the final of

950
00:51:12,747 --> 00:51:15,867
Speaker 2: the ASP Classic Men's Singles and ODI three at Eden Park.

951
00:51:15,947 --> 00:51:17,307
Speaker 2: I'm just going to see what sort of crowd they

952
00:51:17,307 --> 00:51:20,467
Speaker 2: get turning up there this afternoon for that one. And

953
00:51:20,547 --> 00:51:22,747
Speaker 2: as mentioned to Mark Chapman at the end of that chat,

954
00:51:22,787 --> 00:51:27,027
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning at eleven, the black Caps squad for the

955
00:51:27,107 --> 00:51:31,187
Speaker 2: upcoming ICC Champions Trophy in Pakistan and the UAE will

956
00:51:31,187 --> 00:51:35,067
Speaker 2: be named. Now, I don't have this absolutely clarified, but

957
00:51:35,147 --> 00:51:38,067
Speaker 2: I believe it to be a fifteen man squad. So

958
00:51:38,627 --> 00:51:40,507
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like the squad's pretty easy to

959
00:51:40,547 --> 00:51:46,587
Speaker 2: pick because there are thirteen currently in the Black Caps

960
00:51:46,627 --> 00:51:50,587
Speaker 2: ODI squad to play Sri Lanka, and barring some sort

961
00:51:50,627 --> 00:51:54,027
Speaker 2: of catastrophe, you'd have to think that those thirteen are

962
00:51:54,107 --> 00:51:57,867
Speaker 2: on the plane for the Champions Trophy and just got

963
00:51:57,867 --> 00:52:02,147
Speaker 2: to add two, and the two to add seem pretty obvious.

964
00:52:02,867 --> 00:52:07,267
Speaker 2: Devin Conway and Came Williamson. That's the team. That's the fifteen.

965
00:52:07,867 --> 00:52:11,507
Speaker 2: It's quite batter heavy. Maybe you might want to think

966
00:52:11,507 --> 00:52:14,907
Speaker 2: about another seam bowler, I'm not sure who drops out,

967
00:52:14,987 --> 00:52:17,747
Speaker 2: or another spinner perhaps all that, there's plenty of spin options.

968
00:52:17,547 --> 00:52:21,667
Speaker 2: Here's the thirteen that are there at the moment. Mitchell

969
00:52:21,667 --> 00:52:25,107
Speaker 2: Saton is the captain, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Jacob Duffy,

970
00:52:25,187 --> 00:52:28,947
Speaker 2: Mitch Hay, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Darrell Mitchell, Willow Rourke,

971
00:52:29,227 --> 00:52:32,587
Speaker 2: Glenn Phillips, Ruch and Ravendra, Nathan Smith and Will Young.

972
00:52:33,507 --> 00:52:35,747
Speaker 2: Add Devin Conway and King Williamson too. That and that's

973
00:52:35,747 --> 00:52:38,867
Speaker 2: your fifteen man squad, isn't it? The only person I

974
00:52:38,867 --> 00:52:42,347
Speaker 2: can think that might force their way in. Is Kyle Jamison.

975
00:52:43,107 --> 00:52:45,907
Speaker 2: It's great to see him bowling in the Super Smash.

976
00:52:46,067 --> 00:52:49,947
Speaker 2: Whether he's up to the riggers of International One Day

977
00:52:49,947 --> 00:52:52,787
Speaker 2: Cricket i e. Bowling ten o it's rather than just

978
00:52:52,787 --> 00:52:55,387
Speaker 2: the four I guess is something that only he and

979
00:52:55,547 --> 00:52:58,467
Speaker 2: the medical staff and Gary Stead and Mitchell Santa know.

980
00:52:59,427 --> 00:53:02,227
Speaker 2: But it just feels as though the squad has pretty

981
00:53:02,307 --> 00:53:06,027
Speaker 2: much picked itself. Having a One day series so close

982
00:53:06,067 --> 00:53:08,787
Speaker 2: to the Champions Trophy, you wouldn't think there be anybody

983
00:53:08,867 --> 00:53:10,787
Speaker 2: there who gets told at the end of the day today,

984
00:53:10,907 --> 00:53:12,667
Speaker 2: hey it's been fun, thanks very much, but you're not

985
00:53:12,667 --> 00:53:15,547
Speaker 2: coming to the Champions Trophy with us. I think that'd

986
00:53:15,547 --> 00:53:18,187
Speaker 2: be a bit harsh and rarely there's nobody who you

987
00:53:18,187 --> 00:53:22,587
Speaker 2: could say would drop out. Feels like a pretty good

988
00:53:22,627 --> 00:53:26,427
Speaker 2: eleven there. Mitch Hay is probably going to be back

989
00:53:26,547 --> 00:53:29,627
Speaker 2: up wicket keeper. Tom Latham I think will probably play

990
00:53:30,307 --> 00:53:34,027
Speaker 2: and keep wicket at the Champions Trophy, but you need

991
00:53:34,067 --> 00:53:35,947
Speaker 2: to have a backup there, and it's good to have

992
00:53:35,987 --> 00:53:39,187
Speaker 2: a proper backup rather than relying on the likes of

993
00:53:40,027 --> 00:53:43,707
Speaker 2: Devon Conway, for example, to grab the gloves if needed.

994
00:53:44,427 --> 00:53:46,987
Speaker 2: A look at that team, and then I start thinking

995
00:53:46,987 --> 00:53:50,427
Speaker 2: about the Champions Trophy. I think, actually that's a good team.

996
00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:53,747
Speaker 2: That's a team that could do all right at the

997
00:53:53,787 --> 00:53:58,067
Speaker 2: Champions Trophy. We play Pakistan in Karachi on Sunday the

998
00:53:58,187 --> 00:54:02,987
Speaker 2: nineteenth of February, then Bangladesh and Rawul Pindi on Friday

999
00:54:03,027 --> 00:54:07,307
Speaker 2: the twenty fourth of February, and India in Dubai on

1000
00:54:07,467 --> 00:54:11,707
Speaker 2: Sunday the second of March. Those are the pall matches.

1001
00:54:11,747 --> 00:54:14,507
Speaker 2: Then we go into knockout games. But that team could

1002
00:54:14,547 --> 00:54:17,667
Speaker 2: do all right. So eleven o'clock tomorrow morning it's named.

1003
00:54:17,747 --> 00:54:20,947
Speaker 2: So after midday tomorrow we'll be able to confirm that

1004
00:54:20,987 --> 00:54:22,827
Speaker 2: squad for you. Probably have a chat to one or

1005
00:54:22,827 --> 00:54:25,307
Speaker 2: two members of it. But that feels like it is

1006
00:54:25,467 --> 00:54:27,267
Speaker 2: what it's going to be. And just finally on the

1007
00:54:27,307 --> 00:54:31,667
Speaker 2: cricket before we move on from it. I have really

1008
00:54:31,787 --> 00:54:37,067
Speaker 2: enjoyed over this white ball series, the introduction in particular

1009
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:41,467
Speaker 2: in the T twenty series of some new blood. I've

1010
00:54:41,587 --> 00:54:45,587
Speaker 2: really enjoyed seeing some new guys out there playing cricket

1011
00:54:45,587 --> 00:54:48,067
Speaker 2: for New Zealand. And I think of the T twenty

1012
00:54:48,147 --> 00:54:53,267
Speaker 2: series and Tim Robinson and Zach Folks, for example, guys

1013
00:54:53,267 --> 00:54:57,427
Speaker 2: who played the t twenties. Only Bevan Jacobs was called

1014
00:54:57,427 --> 00:55:00,827
Speaker 2: into the team but didn't get the opportunity to play

1015
00:55:00,827 --> 00:55:03,107
Speaker 2: a game. But I would like to see more of him.

1016
00:55:03,387 --> 00:55:06,467
Speaker 2: And then you look at the bowlers and they've I've

1017
00:55:06,467 --> 00:55:09,867
Speaker 2: been terrific servants for us. Of course, they have Tim Soudy,

1018
00:55:09,947 --> 00:55:13,867
Speaker 2: Trent Bolt, near Wagner, but we've moved on from that

1019
00:55:14,027 --> 00:55:18,627
Speaker 2: now we are now in the post Wagner Bolt sau

1020
00:55:18,747 --> 00:55:21,987
Speaker 2: The era in all formats. It would appear to me,

1021
00:55:22,787 --> 00:55:25,467
Speaker 2: even though Tim Soudy hasn't officially, I don't think has

1022
00:55:25,507 --> 00:55:28,307
Speaker 2: he retired from white ball cricket, international white ball cricket.

1023
00:55:28,627 --> 00:55:31,227
Speaker 2: Was it just Test cricket he retired from? He might

1024
00:55:31,227 --> 00:55:33,667
Speaker 2: have retired from all international cricket anyway. I can't see

1025
00:55:33,707 --> 00:55:36,467
Speaker 2: a way back into our white bull side for Tim

1026
00:55:36,467 --> 00:55:39,987
Speaker 2: Soudy anyway. And then you start to think about what

1027
00:55:39,987 --> 00:55:43,587
Speaker 2: our Test side might look like when Jamison is fit,

1028
00:55:44,147 --> 00:55:48,427
Speaker 2: when Ben Sears is firing fully again, with Will O'Rourke

1029
00:55:49,187 --> 00:55:52,227
Speaker 2: and with Matt Henry, and with Jacob Duffy, who was

1030
00:55:52,387 --> 00:55:56,147
Speaker 2: just enjoying a real renaissance if you can call it that.

1031
00:55:56,587 --> 00:55:58,987
Speaker 2: He's thirty, Jacob Duffy, he's not a young guy. Been

1032
00:55:59,027 --> 00:56:00,267
Speaker 2: around for a while. We had him on the show

1033
00:56:00,307 --> 00:56:02,987
Speaker 2: last week. He did Booted for Otago in twenty twelve.

1034
00:56:03,827 --> 00:56:07,187
Speaker 2: He's been around for a while. But think about the

1035
00:56:07,227 --> 00:56:09,587
Speaker 2: freshness of that in red ball cricket later on this

1036
00:56:09,707 --> 00:56:12,187
Speaker 2: year against Zimbabwe, back end of the year against the

1037
00:56:12,187 --> 00:56:17,427
Speaker 2: West Indies we play. Yeah, it feels like a bit

1038
00:56:17,427 --> 00:56:20,427
Speaker 2: of a new guard under the captaincy of Mitchell Santner

1039
00:56:21,507 --> 00:56:24,707
Speaker 2: Mitch Hay As I say into the team, I like

1040
00:56:24,747 --> 00:56:28,307
Speaker 2: it has Fanellan do don't enough? Says Sean. I'm not

1041
00:56:28,347 --> 00:56:32,147
Speaker 2: sure that Fanellen has done enough at with in fifty

1042
00:56:32,187 --> 00:56:35,547
Speaker 2: over cricket. He's obviously playing Big Bash for the Perth

1043
00:56:35,587 --> 00:56:37,747
Speaker 2: Scorches and he's doing it with some success. I just

1044
00:56:37,787 --> 00:56:40,467
Speaker 2: don't know whether he's done enough. Lockie Ferguson would he

1045
00:56:40,587 --> 00:56:44,747
Speaker 2: be a potential inclusion with his extra pace, I don't know.

1046
00:56:45,427 --> 00:56:47,467
Speaker 2: There's another one, Tim Seiffert, I guess might have a

1047
00:56:47,547 --> 00:56:50,867
Speaker 2: case as the backup wicket keeper with his ability to

1048
00:56:51,227 --> 00:56:52,787
Speaker 2: go hard at the top of the order. Another one

1049
00:56:52,787 --> 00:56:55,867
Speaker 2: playing in the Big Bash at the moment. Those would

1050
00:56:55,867 --> 00:56:58,307
Speaker 2: be the guys on the fringes. But yeah, I just

1051
00:56:58,307 --> 00:57:00,427
Speaker 2: feel it feels like it's the current thirteen and Conway

1052
00:57:00,427 --> 00:57:02,707
Speaker 2: and Williams and we'll find out tomorrow at eleven o'clock.

1053
00:57:03,107 --> 00:57:05,587
Speaker 2: One twenty four will take a break when we come back.

1054
00:57:05,707 --> 00:57:09,147
Speaker 2: It's a preview of this afternoon's other big sporting fixture

1055
00:57:09,307 --> 00:57:12,227
Speaker 2: in Auckland. It's the final of the ASB Classic, the

1056
00:57:12,267 --> 00:57:15,507
Speaker 2: men's tournament coming to an end this afternoon and a

1057
00:57:15,547 --> 00:57:20,427
Speaker 2: final probably nobody predicted, even tennis analyst Lee Ranovanovitch ziezu

1058
00:57:20,507 --> 00:57:23,787
Speaker 2: Berg's up against Gaumlfis. Will preview that for you when

1059
00:57:23,787 --> 00:57:24,267
Speaker 2: we come back.

1060
00:57:24,947 --> 00:57:28,187
Speaker 1: The tough questions off the turf weekends for it with

1061
00:57:28,347 --> 00:57:32,307
Speaker 1: Jason Pine and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

1062
00:57:32,307 --> 00:57:33,787
Speaker 1: builder News.

1063
00:57:34,587 --> 00:57:36,587
Speaker 2: One twenty eight ten is shortly just on the Champions

1064
00:57:36,627 --> 00:57:38,907
Speaker 2: Trophy in terms of the format for it. It's it's

1065
00:57:38,947 --> 00:57:41,587
Speaker 2: nothing like the World Cup where there's a lot of

1066
00:57:41,627 --> 00:57:43,867
Speaker 2: teams and a lot of games. Only eight teams. Only

1067
00:57:43,907 --> 00:57:46,827
Speaker 2: eight teams in the Champions Trophy two palls of four

1068
00:57:47,227 --> 00:57:50,867
Speaker 2: as mentioned before, wherein with Bangladesh, India and Pakistan. The

1069
00:57:50,907 --> 00:57:54,427
Speaker 2: other group has Afghanistan, Australia, England and South Africa, so

1070
00:57:54,507 --> 00:57:57,907
Speaker 2: no West Indies in there and it's a straight round robin.

1071
00:57:57,947 --> 00:58:00,067
Speaker 2: You played the other three in your group. Top two,

1072
00:58:00,147 --> 00:58:02,987
Speaker 2: go into semi finals with a crossover situation one v two,

1073
00:58:03,587 --> 00:58:05,707
Speaker 2: two v one, and then into a final. It's all

1074
00:58:05,707 --> 00:58:09,267
Speaker 2: done and did pretty quickly when you look at the games.

1075
00:58:09,307 --> 00:58:11,467
Speaker 2: As I mentioned before, the first game for New Zealanders,

1076
00:58:11,907 --> 00:58:15,107
Speaker 2: well for US on the night of Wednesday, February nineteen,

1077
00:58:15,867 --> 00:58:19,267
Speaker 2: and the final is scheduled for Sunday, the ninth of March.

1078
00:58:19,747 --> 00:58:22,507
Speaker 2: Until pretty quick smart. So yeah, looking forward to the

1079
00:58:22,627 --> 00:58:26,707
Speaker 2: champions trophy some fifty over cricket with I mean, who

1080
00:58:26,747 --> 00:58:30,787
Speaker 2: knows we could win it. We could or we might

1081
00:58:30,827 --> 00:58:33,387
Speaker 2: not get out of the group. But looking forward to

1082
00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:37,147
Speaker 2: seeing the team tomorrow. Let's go to tennis. Belgium qualifier

1083
00:58:37,467 --> 00:58:40,787
Speaker 2: Ziezu Bergs will meet French veteran gauml Fists in today's

1084
00:58:40,867 --> 00:58:44,867
Speaker 2: men's singles final at the ASP Tennis Classic. Bergs advanced

1085
00:58:45,147 --> 00:58:48,467
Speaker 2: to what is his first ATP Tour level final with

1086
00:58:48,547 --> 00:58:51,467
Speaker 2: a thriller a three set win over Portugal's new No

1087
00:58:51,627 --> 00:58:56,547
Speaker 2: Borgoues yesterday. Gaalmonfie got through in straight sets earlier in

1088
00:58:56,587 --> 00:59:00,667
Speaker 2: the day, although he did have a few nervous moments

1089
00:59:00,907 --> 00:59:02,907
Speaker 2: earlier in the week. The final set down for two

1090
00:59:02,907 --> 00:59:06,827
Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon. Former tennis pro and now tennis commentator

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Speaker 2: and analyst the Sky Sports coverage of the tournament, Lee

1092
00:59:09,507 --> 00:59:15,507
Speaker 2: Ranovanovitch joins us, Lee, can anybody, hand on heart truly

1093
00:59:15,587 --> 00:59:18,107
Speaker 2: say that this is the final they predicted?

1094
00:59:19,067 --> 00:59:21,947
Speaker 13: No, absolutely not. You wouldn't have picked it when we

1095
00:59:21,987 --> 00:59:24,347
Speaker 13: saw the drawer, you know, the cutoff of safty eight

1096
00:59:24,427 --> 00:59:27,347
Speaker 13: in the world, so the players and other top Yeah,

1097
00:59:27,547 --> 00:59:30,387
Speaker 13: we had four big seeds that a lot of people

1098
00:59:30,427 --> 00:59:33,627
Speaker 13: thought would come through on paper anyway, So no, no

1099
00:59:33,667 --> 00:59:37,067
Speaker 13: one would have picked this final. However, I'm excited for it.

1100
00:59:37,147 --> 00:59:39,507
Speaker 13: I've seen both of these guys play every match this

1101
00:59:39,627 --> 00:59:42,707
Speaker 13: week and they are both on form. They're both on fire,

1102
00:59:42,867 --> 00:59:43,667
Speaker 13: and it's.

1103
00:59:43,547 --> 00:59:44,467
Speaker 9: Going to be a great match.

1104
00:59:44,667 --> 00:59:45,507
Speaker 4: It could be an epic.

1105
00:59:45,627 --> 00:59:47,507
Speaker 2: All right, let's analyze them one by one.

1106
00:59:47,587 --> 00:59:47,747
Speaker 6: Then.

1107
00:59:47,827 --> 00:59:51,307
Speaker 2: What has allowed thirty eight year old galmn Fees to

1108
00:59:51,347 --> 00:59:52,827
Speaker 2: make it all the way through to the final.

1109
00:59:53,867 --> 00:59:54,747
Speaker 9: He just wants to play.

1110
00:59:55,067 --> 00:59:56,547
Speaker 14: He doesn't play for the money.

1111
00:59:56,667 --> 01:00:00,027
Speaker 9: He's got money, he doesn't play for anything else. He

1112
01:00:00,107 --> 01:00:02,227
Speaker 9: just wants to play and win. And he is in

1113
01:00:02,387 --> 01:00:03,107
Speaker 9: For a thirty eight.

1114
01:00:03,067 --> 01:00:05,507
Speaker 13: Year old, he is an amazing So the cool condition.

1115
01:00:05,987 --> 01:00:09,307
Speaker 13: The way that he moves around the quart is what

1116
01:00:09,427 --> 01:00:11,627
Speaker 13: really impresses me. He's still got all the shots and

1117
01:00:11,667 --> 01:00:13,507
Speaker 13: his eyes haven't slowed down. By the way that he

1118
01:00:13,547 --> 01:00:17,907
Speaker 13: can move and turn the fence into its tack through

1119
01:00:18,027 --> 01:00:20,547
Speaker 13: his movement around the quarters, It's pretty outrageous for a

1120
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Speaker 13: thirty eight year old, and that's how he can still

1121
01:00:23,747 --> 01:00:26,627
Speaker 13: fit it with the guys, just through his movement and

1122
01:00:26,627 --> 01:00:29,227
Speaker 13: that experience too. He knows how to play the right

1123
01:00:29,267 --> 01:00:31,747
Speaker 13: shot at the right time and try to conserve his

1124
01:00:31,827 --> 01:00:32,547
Speaker 13: energy a little bit.

1125
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Speaker 2: We almost lost him, didn't we, in the round of

1126
01:00:35,067 --> 01:00:37,747
Speaker 2: thirty two behind a set. I think he lost the

1127
01:00:37,747 --> 01:00:41,187
Speaker 2: first set sixty one to Spain's Pedro Martinez. He was

1128
01:00:41,227 --> 01:00:42,747
Speaker 2: down to break in the second How did he get

1129
01:00:42,747 --> 01:00:43,387
Speaker 2: out of that hole?

1130
01:00:44,107 --> 01:00:46,067
Speaker 13: He was down at six one, five seven. It looked

1131
01:00:46,107 --> 01:00:47,707
Speaker 13: like he was going out in the first round. He

1132
01:00:47,747 --> 01:00:50,187
Speaker 13: was playing pretty awful to be honest with you, but

1133
01:00:50,307 --> 01:00:54,027
Speaker 13: he's a streaky player. Mercurial is maybe another way to

1134
01:00:54,067 --> 01:00:57,507
Speaker 13: describe him. He can be pretty ordinary and his body language.

1135
01:00:57,147 --> 01:01:00,027
Speaker 9: Can be negative, but he has the ability.

1136
01:00:59,627 --> 01:01:02,867
Speaker 13: To find something that flicks the switch to get him

1137
01:01:02,867 --> 01:01:05,067
Speaker 13: to all of a sudden go to go from zero

1138
01:01:05,147 --> 01:01:08,107
Speaker 13: to ten in space of one game. So he's got

1139
01:01:08,147 --> 01:01:10,467
Speaker 13: the ability just to turn it on, and in a

1140
01:01:10,507 --> 01:01:12,547
Speaker 13: couple of key points in that first set he did

1141
01:01:12,587 --> 01:01:15,587
Speaker 13: turn it on. Music is forehand mainly, and he's built

1142
01:01:15,747 --> 01:01:17,787
Speaker 13: match by match as it's one of that's gone on.

1143
01:01:18,507 --> 01:01:21,707
Speaker 13: Yesterday in a semi final, he was impressive. I felt

1144
01:01:21,747 --> 01:01:25,147
Speaker 13: like he played within himself a lot, but that was

1145
01:01:25,187 --> 01:01:28,187
Speaker 13: probably just a tactical thing. He wasn't too aggressive, didn't

1146
01:01:28,227 --> 01:01:30,627
Speaker 13: make too many unforced theres, just kind of kept.

1147
01:01:30,467 --> 01:01:31,667
Speaker 15: It cool and calm.

1148
01:01:32,267 --> 01:01:34,147
Speaker 9: So he's not better and better and better. He'll be

1149
01:01:34,187 --> 01:01:35,427
Speaker 9: formidable today in the final.

1150
01:01:35,587 --> 01:01:37,467
Speaker 2: All Right, well we know a bit about gam on face,

1151
01:01:37,547 --> 01:01:41,787
Speaker 2: we know less about the man he's facing, Belgian qualifier

1152
01:01:41,907 --> 01:01:45,507
Speaker 2: ziezubergs It give us the broad brush strokes of him

1153
01:01:45,547 --> 01:01:47,227
Speaker 2: as a tennis player. First of all, ready.

1154
01:01:48,507 --> 01:01:53,027
Speaker 9: He's a rollercoaster to the odds, so he technically really sound.

1155
01:01:53,227 --> 01:01:56,747
Speaker 9: He's big, he's strong, he's fast, he's got a big serve,

1156
01:01:56,787 --> 01:01:58,787
Speaker 9: and he hits a heavy ball, so those balls like

1157
01:01:58,827 --> 01:02:01,347
Speaker 9: coming through pretty quickly on the cord and that rushes

1158
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:04,227
Speaker 9: a lot of his opponents. He takes away their time

1159
01:02:04,267 --> 01:02:07,427
Speaker 9: and space by purely by the headiness of the shot,

1160
01:02:07,707 --> 01:02:09,787
Speaker 9: but mentally he's a bit up and down.

1161
01:02:09,907 --> 01:02:10,827
Speaker 14: He can play a.

1162
01:02:10,707 --> 01:02:13,747
Speaker 13: Great set and he'll follow that up with not a

1163
01:02:13,787 --> 01:02:16,507
Speaker 13: great set, and we saw that in the quarterfinal. He

1164
01:02:16,587 --> 01:02:19,427
Speaker 13: was down six two to two Mars. He was throwing

1165
01:02:19,427 --> 01:02:22,507
Speaker 13: his racket, he was getting angry with the umpires, frustrated

1166
01:02:22,507 --> 01:02:25,307
Speaker 13: with the noise in the crowd, and he managed the

1167
01:02:25,347 --> 01:02:28,987
Speaker 13: flat which get a break there in the quarterfinal, come

1168
01:02:28,987 --> 01:02:29,387
Speaker 13: back and win.

1169
01:02:29,427 --> 01:02:30,227
Speaker 9: They added three.

1170
01:02:30,067 --> 01:02:32,907
Speaker 13: Sets and played it was like a totally different player

1171
01:02:32,947 --> 01:02:35,867
Speaker 13: for the back into the second set of the third set,

1172
01:02:35,907 --> 01:02:38,747
Speaker 13: and then the semi final. Yesterday was the total opposite.

1173
01:02:39,067 --> 01:02:41,147
Speaker 13: Came out of the blocks. He was on fire, he

1174
01:02:41,267 --> 01:02:44,147
Speaker 13: was aggressive, hitting winners everywhere. At six two two love,

1175
01:02:44,227 --> 01:02:46,387
Speaker 13: he had three break points to go, three loves, the

1176
01:02:46,467 --> 01:02:50,227
Speaker 13: second for a double break. So we're doing commentary thinking, okay,

1177
01:02:50,267 --> 01:02:52,627
Speaker 13: this is about to be over, and then he just

1178
01:02:52,667 --> 01:02:55,307
Speaker 13: fell apart. He allowed boards to get back into the match,

1179
01:02:55,467 --> 01:02:58,067
Speaker 13: ended up being down a break in the third starting

1180
01:02:58,107 --> 01:03:00,467
Speaker 13: to get frustrated. Then he broke back, and then he

1181
01:03:00,507 --> 01:03:03,347
Speaker 13: broke back again four brakes in the third set, and

1182
01:03:03,627 --> 01:03:06,867
Speaker 13: eventually got back into the third set and as but

1183
01:03:07,147 --> 01:03:09,427
Speaker 13: he made it hard for himself in terms of he

1184
01:03:09,507 --> 01:03:11,867
Speaker 13: was in winning positions and then he dropped his bundle,

1185
01:03:11,867 --> 01:03:14,067
Speaker 13: and then he got fought back to get into winning positions,

1186
01:03:14,067 --> 01:03:16,587
Speaker 13: and he dropped his bundle again. So mentally he's a

1187
01:03:16,627 --> 01:03:18,267
Speaker 13: little bit up and down, but he can play. He's

1188
01:03:18,267 --> 01:03:19,467
Speaker 13: a real player to.

1189
01:03:19,547 --> 01:03:22,187
Speaker 2: You're right, this just feels like an epic in coming

1190
01:03:22,267 --> 01:03:24,987
Speaker 2: this afternoon. If it goes to three sets, Lee, it

1191
01:03:25,027 --> 01:03:27,987
Speaker 2: feels as though the younger man Bergs will have the advantage.

1192
01:03:28,027 --> 01:03:30,827
Speaker 2: Does it feel as though the first set this afternoon's

1193
01:03:30,827 --> 01:03:31,587
Speaker 2: pretty important?

1194
01:03:33,147 --> 01:03:34,787
Speaker 9: I think it always is in a final, just to

1195
01:03:34,867 --> 01:03:37,827
Speaker 9: get that just to get that lead in that scoreboard.

1196
01:03:37,867 --> 01:03:41,507
Speaker 9: Pressure for berg it will be a case of can

1197
01:03:41,587 --> 01:03:44,347
Speaker 9: he handle the occasion. He's come through qualifying. It was

1198
01:03:44,347 --> 01:03:46,667
Speaker 9: his first semi final win yesterday, so this is his

1199
01:03:46,667 --> 01:03:51,307
Speaker 9: first final on an ATP tour and this will do wonders.

1200
01:03:50,907 --> 01:03:51,587
Speaker 15: For his rankings.

1201
01:03:51,627 --> 01:03:54,267
Speaker 9: It'll push him inside the top fifty. So can he

1202
01:03:54,387 --> 01:03:55,227
Speaker 9: handle the pressure?

1203
01:03:55,307 --> 01:03:56,587
Speaker 15: Can he get in and compete?

1204
01:03:56,667 --> 01:03:58,667
Speaker 9: Can he just play his best.

1205
01:03:58,587 --> 01:04:01,227
Speaker 13: And forget about the fact that it's the final. That's

1206
01:04:01,227 --> 01:04:03,947
Speaker 13: one thing I think with mon Thesis, just another day

1207
01:04:03,987 --> 01:04:06,667
Speaker 13: at the office for him. He's been to semi fives

1208
01:04:06,667 --> 01:04:09,027
Speaker 13: of the French Open, the US Open. He's won at

1209
01:04:09,107 --> 01:04:11,947
Speaker 13: least one atp to a tournament every single year for

1210
01:04:11,987 --> 01:04:14,867
Speaker 13: the last nineteen years, so he'll be ready to go.

1211
01:04:15,587 --> 01:04:18,627
Speaker 13: But believe it or night, I'm leaning towards the qualifier

1212
01:04:18,747 --> 01:04:21,267
Speaker 13: for a border line up set in this one.

1213
01:04:21,467 --> 01:04:25,267
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's wait and see what happens. Right,

1214
01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:28,627
Speaker 2: great to get your analysis. Leiot Radovanovitch there as a

1215
01:04:28,627 --> 01:04:32,987
Speaker 2: former pro real student of the game, have thoroughly enjoyed

1216
01:04:33,387 --> 01:04:36,107
Speaker 2: his part in the coverage of the ASP Classic, which

1217
01:04:36,147 --> 01:04:38,907
Speaker 2: wraps up this afternoon in about twenty five minutes. They'll

1218
01:04:38,947 --> 01:04:41,947
Speaker 2: be on court as Gael Montfish, the thirty eight year

1219
01:04:41,987 --> 01:04:46,507
Speaker 2: old takes on the young Belgian zizu Bergs. Apparently he

1220
01:04:46,547 --> 01:04:50,067
Speaker 2: was named after Zenodene Zidan, who of course is known

1221
01:04:50,067 --> 01:04:53,187
Speaker 2: as zizu He's not French, he's Belgian, but his parents

1222
01:04:53,227 --> 01:04:57,267
Speaker 2: are big football fans. Apparently, So zizu burgs up against

1223
01:04:57,507 --> 01:05:00,667
Speaker 2: Gaumorfi's two o'clock this afternoon, twenty five to two. They've

1224
01:05:00,667 --> 01:05:03,027
Speaker 2: had the toss at Eden Park in the third and

1225
01:05:03,107 --> 01:05:05,667
Speaker 2: final one day international. Sri Lanka have won the toss

1226
01:05:05,787 --> 01:05:07,947
Speaker 2: and decide how they will bat first on what looks

1227
01:05:07,947 --> 01:05:10,907
Speaker 2: a belter. Eden Park, of course, is always conducive to

1228
01:05:11,467 --> 01:05:14,827
Speaker 2: big scores in white ball cricket with its unusual shape.

1229
01:05:14,987 --> 01:05:17,467
Speaker 2: Let's see how Sri Lanka go. They will head out

1230
01:05:17,507 --> 01:05:20,347
Speaker 2: to bat first against New Zealand and the third and

1231
01:05:20,347 --> 01:05:22,547
Speaker 2: final one day in around twenty five minutes from now.

1232
01:05:22,587 --> 01:05:24,827
Speaker 2: We of course will keep you right up to date

1233
01:05:24,827 --> 01:05:26,827
Speaker 2: when we come back though. Across the Tasman will go

1234
01:05:27,107 --> 01:05:30,587
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, a Australian correspondent with a particular focus on

1235
01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:32,587
Speaker 2: the upcoming Australian Tennis Open.

1236
01:05:33,147 --> 01:05:36,707
Speaker 1: The biggest seams in sports are on Weekend Sports with

1237
01:05:36,867 --> 01:05:40,987
Speaker 1: Jason Vain and GJ. Junnerhomes, New Zealand's most trusted home

1238
01:05:41,027 --> 01:05:42,427
Speaker 1: builder News Dogs they'd.

1239
01:05:42,267 --> 01:05:44,587
Speaker 2: Be twenty one away from two. Just some team news

1240
01:05:44,627 --> 01:05:47,427
Speaker 2: from Eden Park where New Zealand have made one change.

1241
01:05:47,427 --> 01:05:50,107
Speaker 2: Michael Bracewall was coming for Jacob Duffy, But tough on

1242
01:05:50,267 --> 01:05:53,027
Speaker 2: Jacob Duffy, I have to say, after taking two for

1243
01:05:53,147 --> 01:05:56,067
Speaker 2: thirty nine and two for thirty so far, I think

1244
01:05:56,107 --> 01:05:58,747
Speaker 2: we can safely assume that he's just being rested and

1245
01:05:58,867 --> 01:06:03,427
Speaker 2: he'll no doubt be in that champion's trophy squad for

1246
01:06:03,747 --> 01:06:07,387
Speaker 2: tomorrow Sri Lanka are unchanged. Brace will for Duffy for

1247
01:06:07,707 --> 01:06:10,387
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Let's get you across the Tasman around this

1248
01:06:10,427 --> 01:06:12,747
Speaker 2: time every Saturday, with the pleasure of the company of

1249
01:06:12,787 --> 01:06:16,987
Speaker 2: our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock. You're heavily involved in coverage

1250
01:06:17,067 --> 01:06:20,427
Speaker 2: of the Australian Open, which is underway properly tomorrow after

1251
01:06:20,507 --> 01:06:23,107
Speaker 2: qualifying over the last few days, Adam, what are the

1252
01:06:23,147 --> 01:06:25,547
Speaker 2: big storylines ahead of the Shar's Tournament?

1253
01:06:27,227 --> 01:06:30,707
Speaker 14: Morning, Pony, Hello, ponyday. I don't know what day is,

1254
01:06:30,747 --> 01:06:34,787
Speaker 14: don't know what time it is? Mate, This morning when

1255
01:06:34,827 --> 01:06:36,347
Speaker 14: you wake up in Melbourne, there's only one going on

1256
01:06:36,347 --> 01:06:39,267
Speaker 14: in front of the page, front of the pavement and curios.

1257
01:06:39,307 --> 01:06:42,227
Speaker 14: So yeah, he's probably the biggest story, but there's plenty

1258
01:06:42,267 --> 01:06:45,587
Speaker 14: of other storylines. I've rend A Sabalinka going for three

1259
01:06:45,587 --> 01:06:48,027
Speaker 14: in a row, Novak Djokovic going for another one? Can

1260
01:06:48,027 --> 01:06:53,227
Speaker 14: he rekindle past glories? Annick Sinner, how the specter of

1261
01:06:53,547 --> 01:06:56,587
Speaker 14: a drug band that hangs over his head? How's that

1262
01:06:56,627 --> 01:06:58,827
Speaker 14: going to affect him? And plenty of other story Wi

1263
01:06:58,867 --> 01:07:03,587
Speaker 14: hunts as well. So yeah, it's a really interesting few

1264
01:07:03,667 --> 01:07:06,347
Speaker 14: days here in Melbourne with the tournament finally getting under

1265
01:07:06,467 --> 01:07:09,027
Speaker 14: way after a big lead up and all those storylines

1266
01:07:09,027 --> 01:07:09,867
Speaker 14: starting to be written.

1267
01:07:10,067 --> 01:07:12,547
Speaker 2: What what do you predict for Nick carry off over

1268
01:07:12,587 --> 01:07:13,867
Speaker 2: the next I was going to say over the next

1269
01:07:13,907 --> 01:07:15,147
Speaker 2: two weeks, over the next week.

1270
01:07:16,267 --> 01:07:19,827
Speaker 14: I'd be surprised if we're talking about him still being

1271
01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:23,507
Speaker 14: in the tournament next weekend. I'm just not sure his

1272
01:07:23,507 --> 01:07:25,667
Speaker 14: body's going to hold out. And he's probably good enough.

1273
01:07:25,707 --> 01:07:29,307
Speaker 14: He's got an okay draw, Jackie Furnley, a brick rank

1274
01:07:29,467 --> 01:07:31,747
Speaker 14: just inside the top one hundred, good player. But Nick,

1275
01:07:31,787 --> 01:07:35,347
Speaker 14: on his day, if he's up to it, beats him.

1276
01:07:35,427 --> 01:07:38,347
Speaker 14: So but the problem is with Nick his body, So

1277
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Speaker 14: I can't We're guessing, and I shouldn't say definitively can't,

1278
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Speaker 14: But I can't really see him winning three full matches

1279
01:07:47,747 --> 01:07:50,267
Speaker 14: in a row of best of five when he just

1280
01:07:50,427 --> 01:07:53,947
Speaker 14: does not have the base and to carrying through. He's

1281
01:07:53,947 --> 01:07:55,747
Speaker 14: already had a couple of niggles that he's carrying. So

1282
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Speaker 14: but fingers crossed, he does light it up a bit

1283
01:07:58,227 --> 01:08:01,387
Speaker 14: because the tournament does become far more interesting than Nick's going.

1284
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Speaker 2: Well, there's no Jokovic the favorite, and the mens, no

1285
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Speaker 2: Yahnix center.

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Speaker 14: I reckon sinner has to be. Djokovic in Brisbane was

1287
01:08:10,307 --> 01:08:13,227
Speaker 14: beaten by Riley ol Pelk, a big serving American look,

1288
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Speaker 14: and that can happen against the guy who's nearly seven

1289
01:08:15,467 --> 01:08:18,867
Speaker 14: foot and just serving so well. It's like their fine margins.

1290
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Speaker 14: The match comes down to one or two points, and

1291
01:08:21,627 --> 01:08:23,747
Speaker 14: Joku didn't quite get those one or two points. But

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Speaker 14: the bigger picture is with Djokovic is that that half

1293
01:08:27,547 --> 01:08:30,827
Speaker 14: step has he like he's doing everything he can to

1294
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Speaker 14: make sure he hangs on to what he had, and

1295
01:08:32,827 --> 01:08:35,627
Speaker 14: that's the thing. It's not about improvement, it's about just

1296
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Speaker 14: rekindling what he had in previous years. I'm not sure

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Speaker 14: he's right at that level. And if it was a

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Speaker 14: year where you've got a couple of guys who are

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Speaker 14: just still finding their way at the top top at

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Speaker 14: the end of a Grandstone tournament, I'd say, yeah, he's

1301
01:08:51,107 --> 01:08:53,467
Speaker 14: very much in commission. But what we're talking about here

1302
01:08:53,547 --> 01:08:55,947
Speaker 14: is in the drawer. Carlos Alcaraz and Yanksiner they split

1303
01:08:55,947 --> 01:08:58,547
Speaker 14: the Grand Vans last year to a piece, so these

1304
01:08:58,587 --> 01:09:01,067
Speaker 14: guys know how to win these things now. There's no

1305
01:09:01,147 --> 01:09:04,667
Speaker 14: fear in that regard, and Jocovic has got a horrible

1306
01:09:04,667 --> 01:09:06,907
Speaker 14: little section to try and get to make final. So

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Speaker 14: I would say he's actually third behind it. Two I

1308
01:09:09,347 --> 01:09:11,027
Speaker 14: mentioned there in cinner And now for us.

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Speaker 2: Interesting stuff and just a word on the women's I

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Speaker 2: see arena Sablinka's on rod Labor Arena in the first

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01:09:16,787 --> 01:09:19,147
Speaker 2: night session tomorrow night to us a bit difficult or

1312
01:09:19,147 --> 01:09:21,867
Speaker 2: more difficult, I think to pick a favorite in the

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Speaker 2: women's So I suppose you go by seedings, would sabal

1314
01:09:24,227 --> 01:09:25,387
Speaker 2: Linka be favorite?

1315
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Speaker 14: Yeah? Yeah, Sabellac is a game's pretty good at the moment.

1316
01:09:29,227 --> 01:09:32,427
Speaker 14: Judging what she did in Brisbane, there's a couple of

1317
01:09:32,467 --> 01:09:35,827
Speaker 14: issues normally on a fourhand shot that's not quite in

1318
01:09:35,947 --> 01:09:39,027
Speaker 14: sync for her at the moment. But I would say

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Speaker 14: that she's the heavy favorite, the clear favorite, absolutely three

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Speaker 14: in a row. She's got such an amazing record the

1321
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Speaker 14: last two years here in Australia. I think it's like

1322
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Speaker 14: twenty six or twenty seven and one, and this was

1323
01:09:50,147 --> 01:09:51,947
Speaker 14: going back and you go back three years and she

1324
01:09:51,947 --> 01:09:54,707
Speaker 14: couldn't serve. She sorted out issue out with her serve

1325
01:09:54,747 --> 01:09:57,507
Speaker 14: and ever since she's come back here she's just being rolled.

1326
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Speaker 14: Everyone basically had no Ash Barty in the field these

1327
01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:03,467
Speaker 14: days as well, and shrewd tech looks like yeah, plays

1328
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Speaker 14: her thing absolutely very good on a hard court. The

1329
01:10:05,947 --> 01:10:09,347
Speaker 14: Polish I have a Sabalanka when she's in a rhythm

1330
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Speaker 14: on these courts, very hard to beat. But she plays

1331
01:10:12,387 --> 01:10:15,067
Speaker 14: a form me US Open champion in Sloan Stevens. First up,

1332
01:10:15,227 --> 01:10:17,587
Speaker 14: she's unseated, so it's a really tough first round maps

1333
01:10:17,627 --> 01:10:19,747
Speaker 14: and that's what I've got her on the night session.

1334
01:10:19,507 --> 01:10:23,067
Speaker 2: Night one, all right. Two other matters cricket, The Australian

1335
01:10:23,107 --> 01:10:26,667
Speaker 2: Test team to tour Sri Lanka has been named Steve's

1336
01:10:26,707 --> 01:10:28,947
Speaker 2: must going to kept in the side. Any blowback on this.

1337
01:10:30,107 --> 01:10:32,307
Speaker 14: Nah, we've forgotten about it over here. I'm sure you

1338
01:10:32,347 --> 01:10:35,627
Speaker 14: haven't over there, but we don't really bring it up anymore.

1339
01:10:35,627 --> 01:10:38,307
Speaker 14: He's the only option when you look at it. I mean,

1340
01:10:38,707 --> 01:10:42,987
Speaker 14: I haven't really put together a succession plan. Arthur pat commons.

1341
01:10:43,067 --> 01:10:45,267
Speaker 14: It's like, oh, well, Steve Smith the next best at

1342
01:10:45,267 --> 01:10:46,347
Speaker 14: the moment, so we'll give.

1343
01:10:46,187 --> 01:10:46,667
Speaker 6: It to him.

1344
01:10:47,147 --> 01:10:49,707
Speaker 14: Travis Head look like he might have been developing into

1345
01:10:49,707 --> 01:10:52,947
Speaker 14: that kind of role. One name I will say is

1346
01:10:53,027 --> 01:10:55,347
Speaker 14: Nathan mcswaeny. Once he gets back into the Test line up,

1347
01:10:55,347 --> 01:10:57,267
Speaker 14: and I reckon he will one day. He's the guy

1348
01:10:57,307 --> 01:10:59,867
Speaker 14: that could one day end up cappening in Australia Arthur

1349
01:10:59,907 --> 01:11:02,427
Speaker 14: pat Commons. But that's in the future. In the near

1350
01:11:02,467 --> 01:11:04,387
Speaker 14: future is this Sri Lanka tour where it looks like

1351
01:11:04,627 --> 01:11:07,947
Speaker 14: they're blooding a lot of younger players. They've chosen Cook Connolly,

1352
01:11:07,987 --> 01:11:10,627
Speaker 14: Sam Constas is going to go as well, and it's

1353
01:11:10,667 --> 01:11:12,627
Speaker 14: a chance for these guys to integrate into the national

1354
01:11:12,627 --> 01:11:15,027
Speaker 14: team set up because as George Bailey, the champan of

1355
01:11:15,027 --> 01:11:17,507
Speaker 14: the selectors said earlier this week that there's a lot

1356
01:11:17,507 --> 01:11:21,387
Speaker 14: of tours coming to that region on turning slow low decks,

1357
01:11:21,787 --> 01:11:23,987
Speaker 14: so need to prepare for it and give these guys

1358
01:11:24,027 --> 01:11:26,507
Speaker 14: a chance to integrate into the squad. Maybe not play

1359
01:11:26,507 --> 01:11:27,707
Speaker 14: a game, but integrate.

1360
01:11:27,867 --> 01:11:29,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly a look ahead, doesn't it, Because I think

1361
01:11:29,907 --> 01:11:32,627
Speaker 2: you know, Glenn Maxwell's name was bandied around as a

1362
01:11:32,667 --> 01:11:35,947
Speaker 2: guy who might possibly return to the tear sites hardly

1363
01:11:35,947 --> 01:11:39,107
Speaker 2: played RedBull cricket as he for Australia, but no, real surprise,

1364
01:11:39,187 --> 01:11:40,427
Speaker 2: his name wasn't on the list.

1365
01:11:41,107 --> 01:11:43,467
Speaker 14: No, there was two that were being chucked around as

1366
01:11:43,947 --> 01:11:47,227
Speaker 14: like you, yeah, let's give him a go because he's

1367
01:11:47,227 --> 01:11:49,867
Speaker 14: so good, especially with the white ball game. But Glen

1368
01:11:49,867 --> 01:11:53,467
Speaker 14: Maxwell and Adam Zamper, but they just haven't committed to

1369
01:11:53,467 --> 01:11:56,267
Speaker 14: Shield cricket, so you don't know exactly what they're like

1370
01:11:56,827 --> 01:12:00,667
Speaker 14: with with Red Bull cricket. I don't no doubt Glen

1371
01:12:00,667 --> 01:12:02,467
Speaker 14: Maxwell would have been in success over there. But is

1372
01:12:02,507 --> 01:12:04,347
Speaker 14: he going to be a success? This is to the

1373
01:12:04,387 --> 01:12:07,507
Speaker 14: point of George Bailey alanui to twenty four months time?

1374
01:12:07,587 --> 01:12:09,227
Speaker 14: Is he going to still be playing talk to twenty

1375
01:12:09,227 --> 01:12:11,347
Speaker 14: four month time? Is he still going to want to

1376
01:12:11,587 --> 01:12:12,507
Speaker 14: have that appetite?

1377
01:12:12,867 --> 01:12:13,707
Speaker 8: We're going to tour.

1378
01:12:13,787 --> 01:12:15,507
Speaker 14: It's a long way in the distance, but a massive

1379
01:12:15,547 --> 01:12:18,547
Speaker 14: tour given what just happened to India at the start

1380
01:12:18,547 --> 01:12:20,267
Speaker 14: of twenty twenty seven, which is going to come around

1381
01:12:20,267 --> 01:12:23,907
Speaker 14: really quickly. So they've I think they've seen the issue

1382
01:12:23,947 --> 01:12:26,867
Speaker 14: with the possibility of older guys retiring all of a

1383
01:12:26,867 --> 01:12:31,267
Speaker 14: sudden and there's like big kind of vacuum there with

1384
01:12:31,467 --> 01:12:35,627
Speaker 14: nothing going into it unfortunately. So yeah, they've probably done

1385
01:12:35,667 --> 01:12:36,027
Speaker 14: the right thing.

1386
01:12:36,067 --> 01:12:37,587
Speaker 2: I reckon all right, And just a quick word. We

1387
01:12:37,627 --> 01:12:40,427
Speaker 2: had your Maxwell, your your countryman on earlier in the

1388
01:12:40,427 --> 01:12:43,547
Speaker 2: show talking about this two tier teast cricket proposal which

1389
01:12:44,147 --> 01:12:48,867
Speaker 2: seems to have legs. How has this gone down over there?

1390
01:12:49,667 --> 01:12:54,267
Speaker 14: Yeah, we like it because it's the possibility of playing

1391
01:12:54,267 --> 01:12:57,627
Speaker 14: England and India in big series more often. I don't

1392
01:12:57,667 --> 01:12:59,827
Speaker 14: know how I'd feel about it if I saw like

1393
01:12:59,867 --> 01:13:03,867
Speaker 14: an ASHES every eight tour to eighteen months and an

1394
01:13:03,947 --> 01:13:06,627
Speaker 14: India series. It feels like in the past five years

1395
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:09,867
Speaker 14: we've played India a lot, and yeah, it's built and

1396
01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:12,467
Speaker 14: it's great, and you know, you get a stack of

1397
01:13:12,507 --> 01:13:16,227
Speaker 14: money coming in the coffers for Indian TV rights when

1398
01:13:16,227 --> 01:13:19,547
Speaker 14: they come and play on their shores. But just don't

1399
01:13:19,707 --> 01:13:23,867
Speaker 14: go too heavy on it, because sometimes more is too much,

1400
01:13:24,147 --> 01:13:26,467
Speaker 14: And I don't know if they want to do this,

1401
01:13:26,547 --> 01:13:28,507
Speaker 14: they've got to really space it out, think about it

1402
01:13:28,587 --> 01:13:31,747
Speaker 14: and really put value on Test cricket. But that you

1403
01:13:31,747 --> 01:13:34,467
Speaker 14: don't put value on Test cricket by playing it heaps more.

1404
01:13:34,747 --> 01:13:37,787
Speaker 14: You put value on it by having a proper structure,

1405
01:13:38,107 --> 01:13:40,867
Speaker 14: I reckon. And the only way that this is workable

1406
01:13:40,867 --> 01:13:42,827
Speaker 14: in my eyes, I'm not against it, I'm not ford it,

1407
01:13:42,907 --> 01:13:44,507
Speaker 14: but I just want to see how it might evolve

1408
01:13:44,907 --> 01:13:47,867
Speaker 14: is promotion relegation. It has to happen, Like you can't

1409
01:13:47,907 --> 01:13:50,307
Speaker 14: just have a locked off six and that's it and

1410
01:13:50,347 --> 01:13:52,627
Speaker 14: then a six below on. You have to have maybe

1411
01:13:52,787 --> 01:13:55,707
Speaker 14: even one go up, one go down automatically and then

1412
01:13:55,747 --> 01:13:58,187
Speaker 14: a playoff between second bottom and second top in the

1413
01:13:58,227 --> 01:14:02,107
Speaker 14: two tiers. That's potentially a way of doing it, but

1414
01:14:02,147 --> 01:14:04,147
Speaker 14: not how you guys feel about it over there, because

1415
01:14:04,187 --> 01:14:05,947
Speaker 14: you got the New Zealand might be on the borderline

1416
01:14:05,987 --> 01:14:08,627
Speaker 14: of of top six if you know what I mean.

1417
01:14:09,187 --> 01:14:11,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we've already chatted about this this afternoon on

1418
01:14:11,747 --> 01:14:13,547
Speaker 2: the show. The problem is I think that as soon

1419
01:14:13,547 --> 01:14:16,627
Speaker 2: as someone like Australia, England or India is threatened by relegation,

1420
01:14:16,867 --> 01:14:18,587
Speaker 2: the whole thing probably goes in the bin. Are England

1421
01:14:18,667 --> 01:14:20,427
Speaker 2: or Astralian really gonna want to be relegated and then

1422
01:14:20,507 --> 01:14:21,307
Speaker 2: not play the Ashes?

1423
01:14:22,027 --> 01:14:24,307
Speaker 14: Oh it's a bit like the A League, isn't it. Like, Yeah,

1424
01:14:24,307 --> 01:14:26,907
Speaker 14: that's great, we'll have pro rail everything like that. What

1425
01:14:26,987 --> 01:14:29,507
Speaker 14: happens with Melbourn victory, it's going to get relegated. They're

1426
01:14:29,547 --> 01:14:30,187
Speaker 14: really going to happen.

1427
01:14:30,347 --> 01:14:32,347
Speaker 2: I would have thought so. I wouldn't have thought so either.

1428
01:14:32,347 --> 01:14:34,347
Speaker 2: Great to Jed has always enjoy your week in Melbourne

1429
01:14:34,347 --> 01:14:36,307
Speaker 2: and and let's jet again next Saturday.

1430
01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:37,867
Speaker 14: Jeez, finey sounds good.

1431
01:14:38,067 --> 01:14:39,947
Speaker 2: Sounds good to me too, Mat Thanks and Dan Adam Peacock,

1432
01:14:40,027 --> 01:14:44,907
Speaker 2: they're our regular Australian correspondent, heavily involved, as I say,

1433
01:14:45,027 --> 01:14:48,187
Speaker 2: in coverage over there of the Australian Tennis Open, so

1434
01:14:48,187 --> 01:14:49,867
Speaker 2: it gives us some real good insight there. So Yeah,

1435
01:14:49,907 --> 01:14:54,027
Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic not favorite, absolutely not the favorite. Alcarez and

1436
01:14:54,187 --> 01:14:57,267
Speaker 2: Center are the two Nick Krios will take part, but

1437
01:14:57,347 --> 01:14:59,547
Speaker 2: for how long I guess The promoters of the tournament,

1438
01:14:59,787 --> 01:15:01,867
Speaker 2: not that they need to really promote it as such,

1439
01:15:02,267 --> 01:15:05,147
Speaker 2: but they'll be hoping for Nick Kerios staying in as

1440
01:15:05,147 --> 01:15:09,387
Speaker 2: long as possibly gam to boost interest, ticket sales, all

1441
01:15:09,387 --> 01:15:11,867
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Get the feeling whenever that Curios plays,

1442
01:15:11,867 --> 01:15:14,067
Speaker 2: it'll be on rod Laver and it'll be in front

1443
01:15:14,147 --> 01:15:17,907
Speaker 2: of packed houses. Maybe only one match, we'll wait and see.

1444
01:15:18,107 --> 01:15:22,027
Speaker 2: The tournament proper starts tomorrow twelve to two. A couple

1445
01:15:22,027 --> 01:15:24,667
Speaker 2: of other things are about to start. The ASB Men's

1446
01:15:24,707 --> 01:15:28,507
Speaker 2: singles final at the ASB Tennis Classic, that is, and

1447
01:15:28,587 --> 01:15:30,987
Speaker 2: the third and final one day between New Zealand and

1448
01:15:30,987 --> 01:15:33,627
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka at Eden Park. We'll keep eyes on both

1449
01:15:33,627 --> 01:15:35,987
Speaker 2: of those for you after two o'clock. But a football

1450
01:15:35,987 --> 01:15:37,227
Speaker 2: though coming up for you right after this.

1451
01:15:38,027 --> 01:15:41,707
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting World

1452
01:15:41,907 --> 01:15:44,827
Speaker 1: Weekends for It with Jason vive N call Oh eight

1453
01:15:44,907 --> 01:15:46,787
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty US talk z.

1454
01:15:46,827 --> 01:15:49,587
Speaker 2: MB eight away from two after two Martin gupdllers with

1455
01:15:49,667 --> 01:15:52,027
Speaker 2: us and also Monty Beatham on the retirement of Tohu

1456
01:15:52,107 --> 01:15:53,667
Speaker 2: Harris this week and who you reckon should be the

1457
01:15:53,707 --> 01:15:56,027
Speaker 2: new Warrior Skipper. We'll open the lines on that five

1458
01:15:56,067 --> 01:15:58,347
Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon. The Wellington Phoenix trying to get out

1459
01:15:58,347 --> 01:16:01,067
Speaker 2: of a rut. They've lost four of their last five games.

1460
01:16:01,347 --> 01:16:04,907
Speaker 2: They welcome Adelaide United to Sky Stadium five o'clock kick

1461
01:16:04,907 --> 01:16:08,067
Speaker 2: off this afternoon. Earlier this week, I spoke to Phoenix

1462
01:16:08,107 --> 01:16:11,267
Speaker 2: defender Isaac Hughes and asked how the team had approached

1463
01:16:11,267 --> 01:16:13,907
Speaker 2: the week off the back of a pairly mediocre run

1464
01:16:13,907 --> 01:16:14,467
Speaker 2: of results.

1465
01:16:14,587 --> 01:16:15,947
Speaker 16: I think we've got to recognize that this is a

1466
01:16:16,027 --> 01:16:19,067
Speaker 16: home game, you know. I think we need to win

1467
01:16:19,067 --> 01:16:21,427
Speaker 16: more games at home. We haven't won one at home

1468
01:16:21,507 --> 01:16:24,027
Speaker 16: this season. We've won one at home this season. I

1469
01:16:24,067 --> 01:16:26,467
Speaker 16: think last season a lot of our success was built

1470
01:16:26,507 --> 01:16:29,707
Speaker 16: on getting results away from home, grinding and then at

1471
01:16:29,707 --> 01:16:32,187
Speaker 16: home winning games. I think, you know, we've got to

1472
01:16:32,187 --> 01:16:33,267
Speaker 16: stress the importance that this.

1473
01:16:33,187 --> 01:16:34,387
Speaker 2: Is a home game. We've got to go and win

1474
01:16:34,427 --> 01:16:36,947
Speaker 2: the game. What about in terms of the run of results,

1475
01:16:36,947 --> 01:16:38,547
Speaker 2: which hasn't been going the way that the team would

1476
01:16:38,547 --> 01:16:40,627
Speaker 2: have hoped. Is there a need to kind of lift

1477
01:16:40,667 --> 01:16:43,827
Speaker 2: each other up. Is it what you're sensing within the group.

1478
01:16:47,667 --> 01:16:49,227
Speaker 16: I think there's yeah, I think there's a need for that.

1479
01:16:49,227 --> 01:16:51,827
Speaker 16: I think there's a need for a bit more belief.

1480
01:16:51,947 --> 01:16:54,987
Speaker 16: I think if we you know, I think we're go

1481
01:16:54,987 --> 01:16:57,627
Speaker 16: into the games positively and we try and take the

1482
01:16:57,627 --> 01:16:59,987
Speaker 16: game to the opposition, and we show our qualities on

1483
01:17:00,027 --> 01:17:01,827
Speaker 16: the ball. I think we can beat most teams in

1484
01:17:01,867 --> 01:17:02,267
Speaker 16: the league.

1485
01:17:02,707 --> 01:17:05,907
Speaker 2: So there's no sort of complete drop of confidence in

1486
01:17:05,947 --> 01:17:08,067
Speaker 2: the team. Still a confidence that you can can turn

1487
01:17:08,147 --> 01:17:08,667
Speaker 2: things around.

1488
01:17:09,187 --> 01:17:11,947
Speaker 16: Oh, definitely. I think, you know, we're early on in

1489
01:17:11,947 --> 01:17:17,427
Speaker 16: the season. I think there's lots especially in a finals format,

1490
01:17:17,827 --> 01:17:19,627
Speaker 16: there's no need to panic at this stage of the season.

1491
01:17:19,667 --> 01:17:21,347
Speaker 2: I think we're going to grow into the season.

1492
01:17:21,627 --> 01:17:24,627
Speaker 16: I think it's now time to, you know, take a

1493
01:17:24,627 --> 01:17:26,867
Speaker 16: bit of humble pie because we have lost a few games,

1494
01:17:26,907 --> 01:17:29,107
Speaker 16: but you know, get back to the training pitch and

1495
01:17:29,107 --> 01:17:30,507
Speaker 16: work on what we need to work on and then

1496
01:17:31,227 --> 01:17:32,467
Speaker 16: come good for the end of the season.

1497
01:17:33,067 --> 01:17:35,267
Speaker 2: And you went through a pretty challenging time for a

1498
01:17:35,267 --> 01:17:37,147
Speaker 2: while there there was some incidents that you're involved and

1499
01:17:37,147 --> 01:17:39,427
Speaker 2: that lead to goals. What sort of strategies did you

1500
01:17:39,507 --> 01:17:42,147
Speaker 2: use to make sure that you didn't get to two

1501
01:17:42,227 --> 01:17:43,787
Speaker 2: down on yourself during those times.

1502
01:17:44,987 --> 01:17:49,027
Speaker 16: I think it's something I've worked on with Taylor, our

1503
01:17:49,067 --> 01:17:54,107
Speaker 16: sports psychologist. I think, you know, a mistake can happen

1504
01:17:54,147 --> 01:17:56,787
Speaker 16: in a game, but what you're going to do for

1505
01:17:56,867 --> 01:17:58,267
Speaker 16: the rest of the game. You're going to sit and

1506
01:17:58,267 --> 01:17:59,787
Speaker 16: think about it for the rest of the game, or

1507
01:17:59,787 --> 01:18:01,987
Speaker 16: you're going to get on with the game. Like you know,

1508
01:18:02,067 --> 01:18:04,067
Speaker 16: if you want it to be just one mistake in

1509
01:18:04,107 --> 01:18:06,627
Speaker 16: the whole game, then that's what it can be if

1510
01:18:06,627 --> 01:18:10,467
Speaker 16: you can respond to it well. I think there's also times,

1511
01:18:10,507 --> 01:18:13,827
Speaker 16: like with my slip, where you've just got to let

1512
01:18:13,867 --> 01:18:17,227
Speaker 16: yourself off, like there's nothing I'm wearing soft ground boots

1513
01:18:17,427 --> 01:18:19,587
Speaker 16: and playing on what's meant to be a good pitch.

1514
01:18:20,187 --> 01:18:22,387
Speaker 16: If I slip and they score, there's nothing I can

1515
01:18:22,427 --> 01:18:23,747
Speaker 16: do about that. I just got to move on and

1516
01:18:23,787 --> 01:18:24,587
Speaker 16: play the rest of the game.

1517
01:18:25,667 --> 01:18:27,667
Speaker 2: It seemed I mean what you just said there, it

1518
01:18:27,667 --> 01:18:29,987
Speaker 2: seemed that's what you did. You know you're still wanted

1519
01:18:30,027 --> 01:18:32,747
Speaker 2: the ball. It is still you know didn't hide away

1520
01:18:32,787 --> 01:18:35,907
Speaker 2: and get your head down. Is it something that has

1521
01:18:35,987 --> 01:18:41,227
Speaker 2: always come naturally to you. I don't think so.

1522
01:18:41,427 --> 01:18:44,787
Speaker 16: I don't think it necessarily comes naturally to anyone. Obviously

1523
01:18:44,787 --> 01:18:46,627
Speaker 16: people are not going to naturally have a bit more

1524
01:18:46,867 --> 01:18:51,027
Speaker 16: character than others. But I think it's something Greening used

1525
01:18:51,027 --> 01:18:53,267
Speaker 16: to say to me. Actually, the reserves coach used to say, like,

1526
01:18:53,667 --> 01:18:55,547
Speaker 16: if you make a mistake in the game, I still

1527
01:18:55,587 --> 01:18:57,787
Speaker 16: want you to be just as loud and just the

1528
01:18:57,787 --> 01:19:00,187
Speaker 16: same leader. And I think for me that's something that

1529
01:19:00,267 --> 01:19:02,867
Speaker 16: helps me in if I make a mistake in the game,

1530
01:19:02,947 --> 01:19:06,067
Speaker 16: still speaking, still organizing, just gets me back into the game.

1531
01:19:06,107 --> 01:19:09,427
Speaker 16: And you know, it's hard to accept in football because

1532
01:19:09,427 --> 01:19:11,907
Speaker 16: you want to be perfect all the time, but the

1533
01:19:11,947 --> 01:19:13,827
Speaker 16: best players in the world aren't perfect all the time,

1534
01:19:13,867 --> 01:19:16,187
Speaker 16: and mistakes are going to happen. So it's about just

1535
01:19:16,307 --> 01:19:17,947
Speaker 16: responding to that as quickly as possible.

1536
01:19:18,267 --> 01:19:20,467
Speaker 2: And you're a defender too, like if a striker makes mister,

1537
01:19:20,627 --> 01:19:24,267
Speaker 2: there's a slip, doesn't necessarily mean anything your you know,

1538
01:19:24,387 --> 01:19:26,747
Speaker 2: slips whatever can be magnified, can they. But it's the

1539
01:19:27,147 --> 01:19:29,507
Speaker 2: it's the trade you've chosen being a defender. Tell me

1540
01:19:29,547 --> 01:19:32,987
Speaker 2: about it. Piney it's and T training.

1541
01:19:33,067 --> 01:19:36,747
Speaker 16: That's a swear there, but it's a frustrating one. I

1542
01:19:36,787 --> 01:19:39,267
Speaker 16: see people slip all the time and no one scores,

1543
01:19:39,307 --> 01:19:42,427
Speaker 16: but yeah, one slip and then the Air League's Instagram

1544
01:19:42,467 --> 01:19:44,747
Speaker 16: page is posting it and what can you do?

1545
01:19:45,787 --> 01:19:47,107
Speaker 2: Well, I guess what you can do is exactly what

1546
01:19:47,187 --> 01:19:50,147
Speaker 2: you've seid. You carry on Adelaide this weekend. You know

1547
01:19:50,187 --> 01:19:53,387
Speaker 2: they're traveling pretty well. What sort of three do you

1548
01:19:53,427 --> 01:19:55,307
Speaker 2: assist that they will post you on the weekend.

1549
01:19:56,227 --> 01:19:58,867
Speaker 16: I think they've got a lot of attacking talent. I

1550
01:19:58,867 --> 01:20:01,627
Speaker 16: think even we saw with last year with Dadelaide, you

1551
01:20:01,667 --> 01:20:04,227
Speaker 16: know they were fast, they played a lot of football,

1552
01:20:04,227 --> 01:20:06,067
Speaker 16: but they also conceded a lot of goals. I think,

1553
01:20:07,147 --> 01:20:09,907
Speaker 16: and you know they good in the transition. I think

1554
01:20:10,747 --> 01:20:12,267
Speaker 16: we're going to have to be switched on and focus

1555
01:20:12,347 --> 01:20:14,227
Speaker 16: for the whole ninety minutes. It's going to require a

1556
01:20:14,307 --> 01:20:17,707
Speaker 16: nighty minute performance. But you know, I think there's definitely

1557
01:20:17,747 --> 01:20:19,147
Speaker 16: opportunities for us to hurt them.

1558
01:20:19,267 --> 01:20:21,867
Speaker 2: And as Isaac Hughes Wellington Phoenix defender, they take on

1559
01:20:21,907 --> 01:20:24,987
Speaker 2: Adelaide United from five o'clock this afternoon, sky Stadium in Wellington.

1560
01:20:25,027 --> 01:20:28,307
Speaker 2: Auckland FC meantime are part of have really seen a

1561
01:20:28,547 --> 01:20:31,387
Speaker 2: quadruple header. There are four games back to back to

1562
01:20:31,427 --> 01:20:34,467
Speaker 2: back to back of a league football from five this afternoon,

1563
01:20:34,547 --> 01:20:37,187
Speaker 2: the fourth of which is Auckland f C Up against

1564
01:20:37,187 --> 01:20:41,107
Speaker 2: Perth Glory eleven forty five tonight kickoff for the hardy

1565
01:20:41,267 --> 01:20:44,147
Speaker 2: Auckland f C fans staying up to watch that one

1566
01:20:44,307 --> 01:20:47,187
Speaker 2: after two. Martin gapdel In Monty Betham on the retirement

1567
01:20:47,307 --> 01:20:48,347
Speaker 2: of Tallhu Harris.

1568
01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:53,667
Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

1569
01:20:54,307 --> 01:20:59,267
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1570
01:20:59,347 --> 01:21:03,147
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason him on your home of Sport

1571
01:21:03,587 --> 01:21:04,187
Speaker 1: News talks.

1572
01:21:04,227 --> 01:21:04,467
Speaker 17: It be.

1573
01:21:06,587 --> 01:21:09,347
Speaker 2: Hi there, Welcome into Weekend Sport, Welcome back to Weekend Sport.

1574
01:21:09,387 --> 01:21:11,467
Speaker 2: As the case lav eight past two. I'm Jason Pine.

1575
01:21:11,507 --> 01:21:15,547
Speaker 2: Another hour before we hand it over. A busy hour though,

1576
01:21:16,187 --> 01:21:17,987
Speaker 2: keen for your input on a couple of things. The

1577
01:21:18,027 --> 01:21:23,027
Speaker 2: first is who will who should lead the Warriors in

1578
01:21:23,067 --> 01:21:25,347
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Up until a few days ago we thought,

1579
01:21:25,387 --> 01:21:29,947
Speaker 2: well it's Toho Harris, but unfortunately on Thursday the news

1580
01:21:29,947 --> 01:21:34,427
Speaker 2: broke that Taho Harris will be retiring with immediate effect.

1581
01:21:34,507 --> 01:21:38,827
Speaker 2: He simply hasn't recovered sufficiently from off season surgery on

1582
01:21:38,867 --> 01:21:42,827
Speaker 2: his wrist and has made the I'm sure very difficult

1583
01:21:42,827 --> 01:21:46,547
Speaker 2: decision to pull the pin. Monty beat them on this

1584
01:21:46,907 --> 01:21:50,347
Speaker 2: Shortly we'll get the thoughts of Cam George, the club's

1585
01:21:50,427 --> 01:21:52,827
Speaker 2: chief executive, and Andrew Webster, head coach as well, but

1586
01:21:53,227 --> 01:21:56,147
Speaker 2: it's your views. I'm really keen on league fans. Who

1587
01:21:56,827 --> 01:22:01,467
Speaker 2: would you like to take the captain's armband? And memories

1588
01:22:01,507 --> 01:22:03,787
Speaker 2: of Taho Harris as well and the legacy that he

1589
01:22:03,827 --> 01:22:06,747
Speaker 2: will leave is one of the clubs all time greats.

1590
01:22:06,747 --> 01:22:09,347
Speaker 2: Martin Guptel, speaking of all time greats, is on the

1591
01:22:09,387 --> 01:22:11,827
Speaker 2: show this hour as well. We're being a bit fluid

1592
01:22:11,867 --> 01:22:15,867
Speaker 2: with Martin Guptel. He's got other commitments. They're honoring him

1593
01:22:15,867 --> 01:22:19,587
Speaker 2: today at Eden Park as part of the third and

1594
01:22:19,587 --> 01:22:22,187
Speaker 2: final One day International between the black Caps and Sri Lanka.

1595
01:22:22,307 --> 01:22:25,747
Speaker 2: So he has other commitments, but he knows that we're

1596
01:22:25,827 --> 01:22:28,587
Speaker 2: keen to chat, so at some stage between now and

1597
01:22:28,587 --> 01:22:31,107
Speaker 2: three we certainly hope that that will happen. We'll get

1598
01:22:31,147 --> 01:22:33,787
Speaker 2: you up to date with the cricket Sri Lanka nine

1599
01:22:33,827 --> 01:22:36,427
Speaker 2: without lost after two. I was batting first, and also

1600
01:22:36,467 --> 01:22:38,147
Speaker 2: on the tennis, which is about to get under way

1601
01:22:38,347 --> 01:22:41,467
Speaker 2: with zizu Bergs and Gaumol Feasts set to do battle

1602
01:22:41,507 --> 01:22:46,027
Speaker 2: for the ASB Classic Men's Singles crown. So quite a

1603
01:22:46,067 --> 01:22:49,307
Speaker 2: bit to juggle between now and three. But I feel

1604
01:22:49,347 --> 01:22:51,947
Speaker 2: confidence that Andy will be able to do it, and

1605
01:22:51,987 --> 01:22:54,587
Speaker 2: I'll just follow his instructions. And what he's telling me

1606
01:22:54,667 --> 01:22:57,027
Speaker 2: right now is with the time at nine past two

1607
01:22:57,067 --> 01:22:59,147
Speaker 2: at his time for you to catch up with some

1608
01:22:59,227 --> 01:23:01,587
Speaker 2: of the things that you may have missed over the

1609
01:23:01,667 --> 01:23:05,067
Speaker 2: last twenty four hours or so. Our regular in case

1610
01:23:05,107 --> 01:23:07,867
Speaker 2: you missed it feature is back for twenty twenty five,

1611
01:23:07,907 --> 01:23:11,147
Speaker 2: and we start in the A League a thriller in Melbourne.

1612
01:23:11,187 --> 01:23:16,267
Speaker 2: Last night. Western United were three two behind going into

1613
01:23:16,547 --> 01:23:20,587
Speaker 2: added time against Melbourne Victory. So one of them touched

1614
01:23:20,627 --> 01:23:23,147
Speaker 2: onto the crossbar, but they've got it down.

1615
01:23:25,067 --> 01:23:31,147
Speaker 18: No Gootics has equalized for the second time in this

1616
01:23:31,267 --> 01:23:33,187
Speaker 18: contest for Western United.

1617
01:23:33,227 --> 01:23:36,347
Speaker 2: So three to three. But Western United were not done.

1618
01:23:36,547 --> 01:23:40,867
Speaker 2: A couple of minutes later they completed a whirlwind comeback.

1619
01:23:40,587 --> 01:23:49,307
Speaker 18: Dansaki controls against Boss Thean Sakisuke and they've gone four

1620
01:23:49,427 --> 01:23:55,427
Speaker 18: again to and stop. It's time again. You just can't

1621
01:23:55,507 --> 01:23:57,587
Speaker 18: keep this Western United side down.

1622
01:23:57,707 --> 01:24:00,347
Speaker 2: I certainly can't four three to Western United into the

1623
01:24:00,347 --> 01:24:03,627
Speaker 2: top four. They go staying in Australia. In Crickets Big Bash,

1624
01:24:03,827 --> 01:24:07,347
Speaker 2: Hobart keeping their winning streak alive with a match winning

1625
01:24:07,387 --> 01:24:08,747
Speaker 2: knock from Tim David.

1626
01:24:10,067 --> 01:24:15,467
Speaker 19: Tim David, the classy atchieves victory with six and he

1627
01:24:15,587 --> 01:24:20,747
Speaker 19: has played some hand again Tim David sixty eight or

1628
01:24:20,787 --> 01:24:25,187
Speaker 19: thirty eight, a record equaling five consecutive wins for the

1629
01:24:25,227 --> 01:24:26,347
Speaker 19: Hobart Hurricanes.

1630
01:24:26,547 --> 01:24:28,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, a six wicked win for the Hurricanes with a

1631
01:24:28,507 --> 01:24:31,467
Speaker 2: ball to spare over the Sydney thunder close to the

1632
01:24:31,507 --> 01:24:35,067
Speaker 2: home and our super smash. The Magician's much too strong

1633
01:24:35,107 --> 01:24:37,067
Speaker 2: for the Hearts. And the women's game in christ Church.

1634
01:24:37,627 --> 01:24:40,547
Speaker 2: Now know Dan trying to get it through. She does

1635
01:24:40,787 --> 01:24:43,107
Speaker 2: chases on. I don't think they'll real listen.

1636
01:24:45,027 --> 01:24:47,787
Speaker 17: And that goes to the boundary for four through cover.

1637
01:24:48,187 --> 01:24:50,667
Speaker 2: Maddy Penner hits the winning run, a nine wicked win

1638
01:24:50,707 --> 01:24:53,307
Speaker 2: for Canterbury's women and the men made it a Canterby

1639
01:24:53,387 --> 01:24:56,987
Speaker 2: sweep at Hagley, winning by forty one runs over Auckland,

1640
01:24:57,027 --> 01:25:01,347
Speaker 2: spurred on by a strong knock from Chad Bows whacked away.

1641
01:25:01,427 --> 01:25:07,387
Speaker 2: That is a good Sex sload it down, pushed it

1642
01:25:07,467 --> 01:25:10,027
Speaker 2: slightly wide. This time he's gone on the other side.

1643
01:25:10,307 --> 01:25:11,347
Speaker 2: What a shot that is.

1644
01:25:14,547 --> 01:25:18,587
Speaker 17: Fifty up for Bows just twenty seven deliveries.

1645
01:25:19,147 --> 01:25:24,187
Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails. Weekend

1646
01:25:24,227 --> 01:25:27,387
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pin News Talk z Envy.

1647
01:25:27,907 --> 01:25:31,427
Speaker 2: Twelve minutes past two. Massive blow for the Warriors this week,

1648
01:25:31,587 --> 01:25:35,267
Speaker 2: Captain Tahou Harris announcing on Thursday he is ending his

1649
01:25:35,427 --> 01:25:37,907
Speaker 2: playing career with immediate effect.

1650
01:25:38,467 --> 01:25:40,747
Speaker 7: One hot test match for Timer on this ground seven

1651
01:25:40,827 --> 01:25:41,267
Speaker 7: days ago.

1652
01:25:41,347 --> 01:25:46,267
Speaker 2: As we see Harris, who has the captain?

1653
01:25:47,147 --> 01:25:50,587
Speaker 19: Just caught good tackle Clark last play.

1654
01:25:50,667 --> 01:25:55,787
Speaker 2: A good to Harris to plug over for his first

1655
01:25:55,907 --> 01:25:59,587
Speaker 2: time over year. Yeah, man, I'm marked outside him.

1656
01:25:59,747 --> 01:26:03,027
Speaker 3: Look Metcalf, whyries your kid to compose your heir?

1657
01:26:03,067 --> 01:26:11,547
Speaker 2: It's Harris Harras Harras Thursday etalizer here. Taho Harris set

1658
01:26:11,587 --> 01:26:15,347
Speaker 2: for his thirteenth NRL campaign this year, but says ongoing

1659
01:26:15,387 --> 01:26:19,267
Speaker 2: problems following off season surgery on a wrist injury have

1660
01:26:19,427 --> 01:26:23,507
Speaker 2: forced him to step aside prematurely. Tollho Harris ends his

1661
01:26:23,547 --> 01:26:27,147
Speaker 2: career with one hundred and seventeen appearances since he joined

1662
01:26:27,147 --> 01:26:29,787
Speaker 2: the Warriors in twenty eighteen, exactly the same number of

1663
01:26:29,827 --> 01:26:33,467
Speaker 2: games he played in his five seasons with Melbourne between

1664
01:26:33,467 --> 01:26:37,707
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen and twenty seventeen, two hundred and thirty four

1665
01:26:38,267 --> 01:26:42,587
Speaker 2: NRL games. All up, Let's bring in another Warriors legend,

1666
01:26:42,787 --> 01:26:45,747
Speaker 2: Monty Betham. Monty, when you heard this news, was it

1667
01:26:45,947 --> 01:26:46,627
Speaker 2: a surprise?

1668
01:26:47,827 --> 01:26:49,827
Speaker 15: I was probably a surprised for me. I didn't realize

1669
01:26:49,827 --> 01:26:53,027
Speaker 15: how he was tracking after his operation. I knew who's

1670
01:26:53,067 --> 01:26:54,707
Speaker 15: going in and knew it was a big problem for

1671
01:26:54,787 --> 01:26:56,547
Speaker 15: Hi and he was paid through a lot of pain

1672
01:26:56,667 --> 01:26:59,667
Speaker 15: last year, the risk being the main cause of the

1673
01:26:59,747 --> 01:27:03,027
Speaker 15: few problems that he had. But to hear that Mickie

1674
01:27:03,027 --> 01:27:06,867
Speaker 15: bronnounced from the email, came out in house first before public,

1675
01:27:06,907 --> 01:27:09,187
Speaker 15: and it just broke the internet, and that he was

1676
01:27:09,267 --> 01:27:11,507
Speaker 15: just everywhere as he should be, because he's a man

1677
01:27:11,547 --> 01:27:14,987
Speaker 15: that's been reviewed and unfortunately it's the sad way, the

1678
01:27:15,027 --> 01:27:16,067
Speaker 15: infohime man for the game.

1679
01:27:16,227 --> 01:27:20,107
Speaker 2: Indeed, what will Tohoo Harris's Warriors legacy be?

1680
01:27:21,187 --> 01:27:24,147
Speaker 15: One of great I think he's changed the way he's

1681
01:27:24,227 --> 01:27:26,467
Speaker 15: changed the narrative of how I loose forwards played. Over

1682
01:27:26,467 --> 01:27:29,267
Speaker 15: the years, we've had some absolutely great ones and you know,

1683
01:27:29,387 --> 01:27:32,627
Speaker 15: Kevin Camping comes to mind, Simon Mannory, Michael Luck and

1684
01:27:32,667 --> 01:27:35,667
Speaker 15: all these guys. The guys that are war horses, guys

1685
01:27:35,667 --> 01:27:37,787
Speaker 15: that are sort of I wouldn't say one dimensional. I

1686
01:27:37,827 --> 01:27:39,507
Speaker 15: want to give them more the respect that they deserve.

1687
01:27:39,587 --> 01:27:42,547
Speaker 15: But in terms of having the all round ball playing ability,

1688
01:27:42,907 --> 01:27:47,107
Speaker 15: the engine, the finise that Torby Harris has and the

1689
01:27:47,147 --> 01:27:49,107
Speaker 15: way he goes to the line, him and a walker

1690
01:27:49,187 --> 01:27:51,267
Speaker 15: of late and the way they've been playing really has

1691
01:27:51,307 --> 01:27:53,227
Speaker 15: been a key point of attack for the suire side.

1692
01:27:53,267 --> 01:27:55,267
Speaker 15: So Toory Harris for me is one of the great

1693
01:27:55,507 --> 01:27:58,667
Speaker 15: put on the jumper. He's played one hundred and seventeen

1694
01:27:58,707 --> 01:28:01,587
Speaker 15: odd games for the clubs to shame that he finishes prematurely,

1695
01:28:02,067 --> 01:28:04,467
Speaker 15: but like I know, he's loved the suit within the

1696
01:28:04,547 --> 01:28:05,547
Speaker 15: organization as well.

1697
01:28:05,627 --> 01:28:08,907
Speaker 2: So it's huge from it goes without saying Monty, this

1698
01:28:09,027 --> 01:28:11,707
Speaker 2: is a big blow to the Warriors, but how big

1699
01:28:13,107 --> 01:28:13,827
Speaker 2: I think it's huge.

1700
01:28:14,307 --> 01:28:16,387
Speaker 15: You think about the experience because you lose Adam for

1701
01:28:16,427 --> 01:28:19,387
Speaker 15: will Break, you lose Shawn Johnson, you lose Jack Devon,

1702
01:28:19,507 --> 01:28:21,307
Speaker 15: and then you also lose someone I saw who which

1703
01:28:21,387 --> 01:28:23,707
Speaker 15: is something you didn't count for. So that's close to

1704
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:27,387
Speaker 15: eight hundred, nine hundred games. I've experienced a guy that's

1705
01:28:27,427 --> 01:28:29,507
Speaker 15: loved in the club. His wife Naden Harlan comes in

1706
01:28:29,547 --> 01:28:32,467
Speaker 15: their family, you know, and just the way he plays.

1707
01:28:32,467 --> 01:28:34,387
Speaker 15: He's a big body, he's like six foot five. He

1708
01:28:34,427 --> 01:28:37,267
Speaker 15: plays him at the park. He's got the biggest engine

1709
01:28:37,307 --> 01:28:39,787
Speaker 15: you can play with the ball. He defends very well

1710
01:28:39,867 --> 01:28:42,827
Speaker 15: and just the way he needs his side. I think

1711
01:28:42,827 --> 01:28:45,867
Speaker 15: it's means by accents, but he also has the great

1712
01:28:45,907 --> 01:28:48,787
Speaker 15: words that you need every now and again. It doesn't

1713
01:28:48,827 --> 01:28:52,587
Speaker 15: say much, but when he does holds of rumors, well.

1714
01:28:52,587 --> 01:28:55,107
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the leadership void that will be left

1715
01:28:55,147 --> 01:28:58,427
Speaker 2: with his departure. Already. You know a lot of comments

1716
01:28:58,427 --> 01:29:01,547
Speaker 2: around about who will will lead the Warriors in twenty

1717
01:29:01,587 --> 01:29:05,067
Speaker 2: twenty five. Is James Fasha Harris, even though he's just

1718
01:29:05,147 --> 01:29:06,747
Speaker 2: coming in the best candidate for you.

1719
01:29:08,747 --> 01:29:10,787
Speaker 15: I think he is. I think he's come over here

1720
01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:12,907
Speaker 15: on's good back to the game. This is where has

1721
01:29:12,987 --> 01:29:16,467
Speaker 15: come from. He's a fine leader. I've read Ivan Clary's

1722
01:29:16,467 --> 01:29:19,947
Speaker 15: book and he speaks about charmes for shap Harris hugely

1723
01:29:20,067 --> 01:29:23,027
Speaker 15: throughout miss been in the last five Grand finals, winning

1724
01:29:23,027 --> 01:29:24,747
Speaker 15: four of them and leads away out on the field.

1725
01:29:25,227 --> 01:29:28,387
Speaker 15: And I've seen the way commands the respect and attention

1726
01:29:28,827 --> 01:29:30,507
Speaker 15: as a leader in the QWI camp, and I think

1727
01:29:30,507 --> 01:29:33,547
Speaker 15: he'll get the same for us here already in the

1728
01:29:33,627 --> 01:29:35,707
Speaker 15: in the short week that I've seen him in camp

1729
01:29:35,747 --> 01:29:37,867
Speaker 15: and doing what he doesn't have these little chats. I

1730
01:29:37,907 --> 01:29:39,947
Speaker 15: believe he's a wonderful leader. But in the saying that,

1731
01:29:39,947 --> 01:29:41,747
Speaker 15: you've still got miss Barnett, You've still got Roger tv

1732
01:29:41,827 --> 01:29:44,067
Speaker 15: Vashis chick. You've got a number of leaders in there

1733
01:29:44,107 --> 01:29:48,067
Speaker 15: around around him, and whoever gets that seat, and I'm

1734
01:29:48,067 --> 01:29:51,307
Speaker 15: thinking Dans for Sha Harris is the right candidate. I

1735
01:29:51,347 --> 01:29:55,267
Speaker 15: think he'll be well a supporter. In terms of lieutenants.

1736
01:29:55,507 --> 01:29:56,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to talk about that. And you

1737
01:29:56,747 --> 01:29:59,707
Speaker 2: often hear about leadership groups Monty Dougie within any sporting team,

1738
01:30:00,107 --> 01:30:02,507
Speaker 2: how important are those lieutenants to the guy who actually,

1739
01:30:02,707 --> 01:30:03,907
Speaker 2: you know, where's the armband?

1740
01:30:04,827 --> 01:30:06,347
Speaker 15: I think he is going to have a number of

1741
01:30:06,387 --> 01:30:09,427
Speaker 15: people put it in the right direction. And although you

1742
01:30:09,547 --> 01:30:12,107
Speaker 15: have your main leader, you've got to have other leaders

1743
01:30:12,107 --> 01:30:15,307
Speaker 15: in and around them that echo the fancy toments the

1744
01:30:15,387 --> 01:30:18,227
Speaker 15: same things and thoughts in their own ways and what

1745
01:30:18,267 --> 01:30:21,027
Speaker 15: they do, and it's you know, it's just not one man.

1746
01:30:21,027 --> 01:30:23,307
Speaker 15: It's a number of people around just supporting you and

1747
01:30:23,387 --> 01:30:25,627
Speaker 15: be going the thoughts of the coach, and that as well,

1748
01:30:25,747 --> 01:30:28,427
Speaker 15: So there's some still some good leaders left, although we've

1749
01:30:28,467 --> 01:30:31,467
Speaker 15: lost a few until we've been the most recent, which

1750
01:30:31,707 --> 01:30:33,547
Speaker 15: is a shock and it would be very much from it.

1751
01:30:33,747 --> 01:30:36,307
Speaker 15: But you know, James Fisher Harris is a wonderful letter

1752
01:30:36,347 --> 01:30:38,187
Speaker 15: some booking forards coming through, and then the are the

1753
01:30:38,227 --> 01:30:40,427
Speaker 15: young guys coming through as well, just showing their words

1754
01:30:40,467 --> 01:30:43,547
Speaker 15: and understanding there is a year on their journey and

1755
01:30:43,587 --> 01:30:45,627
Speaker 15: how they can grow under the leadership of themselves and

1756
01:30:45,707 --> 01:30:46,867
Speaker 15: Mitch Barnett and others.

1757
01:30:47,147 --> 01:30:49,347
Speaker 2: How important is the off field role of the captain.

1758
01:30:49,387 --> 01:30:51,267
Speaker 2: I'm not just talking around the playing group but around

1759
01:30:51,267 --> 01:30:52,187
Speaker 2: the club in general.

1760
01:30:53,147 --> 01:30:53,307
Speaker 6: Oh.

1761
01:30:53,347 --> 01:30:56,107
Speaker 15: I think it's huge, more so for me for the

1762
01:30:56,107 --> 01:31:00,147
Speaker 15: playing group because it's about Dementric by Manga. It's about

1763
01:31:00,387 --> 01:31:03,627
Speaker 15: Lettahale and that coming through and learning the right way

1764
01:31:03,667 --> 01:31:07,307
Speaker 15: to do things, how to apply SOUF to the sport

1765
01:31:07,427 --> 01:31:10,587
Speaker 15: and and you know, and be in a situation where

1766
01:31:10,587 --> 01:31:12,427
Speaker 15: you need the way and if you see things not

1767
01:31:12,507 --> 01:31:14,827
Speaker 15: happen the way they should, you put a stop to

1768
01:31:14,827 --> 01:31:16,907
Speaker 15: a straight away. And you know, he's the leader of

1769
01:31:16,947 --> 01:31:19,587
Speaker 15: men Fish and other men like Mitch Barnett and having

1770
01:31:19,587 --> 01:31:21,907
Speaker 15: those guys around and these young guys coming through which

1771
01:31:21,947 --> 01:31:24,307
Speaker 15: are the new cropper really really exciting and I think

1772
01:31:24,347 --> 01:31:28,027
Speaker 15: they are nucleus of a good side that can really

1773
01:31:28,067 --> 01:31:30,987
Speaker 15: do some good things in this jumper. They need their

1774
01:31:31,307 --> 01:31:33,467
Speaker 15: leadership in front of them, and I think there's a

1775
01:31:33,507 --> 01:31:34,747
Speaker 15: good crew differently.

1776
01:31:34,747 --> 01:31:36,827
Speaker 2: Aside from the captaincy. Obviously the Warriors now need to

1777
01:31:36,827 --> 01:31:39,067
Speaker 2: replace Tail who Harris in the lock position, don't they?

1778
01:31:39,307 --> 01:31:41,507
Speaker 2: Is Dylan walk of the obvious choice there.

1779
01:31:42,347 --> 01:31:44,547
Speaker 15: It's a wonderful job last year in terms of when

1780
01:31:44,587 --> 01:31:46,787
Speaker 15: he came in the game he's pen and other games

1781
01:31:46,787 --> 01:31:48,547
Speaker 15: as well. You know when we've had the B team

1782
01:31:48,627 --> 01:31:51,427
Speaker 15: so to speak out there and really pull some numbers

1783
01:31:51,467 --> 01:31:53,907
Speaker 15: over the position and get some results. But you know

1784
01:31:53,947 --> 01:31:57,227
Speaker 15: there's also Aaron Clark who's loving being home, who's played

1785
01:31:57,227 --> 01:31:59,187
Speaker 15: for the Keys for the first time and he's been

1786
01:31:59,187 --> 01:32:02,587
Speaker 15: training very very well. Demitic Bymonga. You've got a lot

1787
01:32:02,627 --> 01:32:05,227
Speaker 15: of boys, But it comes down to the engine. The

1788
01:32:05,267 --> 01:32:08,747
Speaker 15: interchange is what you want to do with your Ford Pact.

1789
01:32:08,987 --> 01:32:12,147
Speaker 15: So there are some choices there for webe. But you

1790
01:32:12,267 --> 01:32:14,787
Speaker 15: think that Bill and Walker, who's just a wonderful part

1791
01:32:14,907 --> 01:32:18,987
Speaker 15: and has the same sort of attributes as who did lastly,

1792
01:32:19,067 --> 01:32:20,427
Speaker 15: like going to the line, that he should be a

1793
01:32:21,027 --> 01:32:23,507
Speaker 15: work that evasion and just have that run threat as

1794
01:32:23,547 --> 01:32:26,427
Speaker 15: well as past threat. But I think which just makes

1795
01:32:26,427 --> 01:32:26,947
Speaker 15: a difference.

1796
01:32:27,227 --> 01:32:29,827
Speaker 2: And res back to toll who Harris to finish? Monty, you

1797
01:32:29,867 --> 01:32:32,907
Speaker 2: know we only see him, you know, on television playing matches,

1798
01:32:32,907 --> 01:32:37,147
Speaker 2: you know, in media situations. He looks humble, committed, team man,

1799
01:32:37,227 --> 01:32:40,187
Speaker 2: family man. Is that the Taho Harris that you know?

1800
01:32:41,907 --> 01:32:45,027
Speaker 15: That is the authentic Toy Harris without a doubt. He

1801
01:32:45,107 --> 01:32:48,307
Speaker 15: is the most humble, most polite guy to be around,

1802
01:32:48,307 --> 01:32:51,627
Speaker 15: who really cares for people. He is selfless. He just

1803
01:32:51,627 --> 01:32:54,227
Speaker 15: wants to work hard. He is this big human and

1804
01:32:54,267 --> 01:32:55,507
Speaker 15: I think when you see him on the field, you

1805
01:32:55,547 --> 01:32:57,587
Speaker 15: don't get a real goage to how big he is

1806
01:32:58,427 --> 01:33:01,707
Speaker 15: in person. But he's always there to do things for people.

1807
01:33:01,787 --> 01:33:04,627
Speaker 15: And you know, people don't know, but both himself and

1808
01:33:04,667 --> 01:33:06,427
Speaker 15: his wife they do a lot for the local in

1809
01:33:06,587 --> 01:33:09,747
Speaker 15: the local school down here. But they are a really

1810
01:33:09,787 --> 01:33:12,947
Speaker 15: wonderful human beings. So I hope he sticks around because

1811
01:33:12,987 --> 01:33:15,947
Speaker 15: he's a good man, a good human and who'd be

1812
01:33:16,067 --> 01:33:17,187
Speaker 15: much needed around the place.

1813
01:33:17,307 --> 01:33:19,427
Speaker 2: Fantastic great to chat has always Monty. Thanks for taking

1814
01:33:19,467 --> 01:33:22,907
Speaker 2: the time, Thanks fining, Thanks Monty, Monty Beatham There Warriors

1815
01:33:22,987 --> 01:33:26,187
Speaker 2: legend still part of the club and obviously part of

1816
01:33:26,347 --> 01:33:29,947
Speaker 2: Sky Sports coverage of the NRL as well, and you

1817
01:33:29,947 --> 01:33:32,987
Speaker 2: can watch the twenty twenty five NRL season live on

1818
01:33:33,027 --> 01:33:36,147
Speaker 2: Sky Sport and stream it on Sky Sport. Now from

1819
01:33:36,187 --> 01:33:39,107
Speaker 2: the second of March. That's going to roll around pretty quickly.

1820
01:33:39,107 --> 01:33:41,667
Speaker 2: There's nothing. The Warriors start in Vegas, don't they? The

1821
01:33:41,707 --> 01:33:44,467
Speaker 2: Warriors start off and in Vegas? Isn't that the first

1822
01:33:44,467 --> 01:33:47,867
Speaker 2: place they go? I think it might be regardless who

1823
01:33:47,907 --> 01:33:50,587
Speaker 2: will lead them Warriors fans, just give us a gauge

1824
01:33:50,587 --> 01:33:55,547
Speaker 2: on this. James Fisher Harris is the most obvious for me,

1825
01:33:56,587 --> 01:34:02,547
Speaker 2: you know, already a leader coming in with huge manna

1826
01:34:02,787 --> 01:34:06,107
Speaker 2: and standing within the sport. Everybody would look up to

1827
01:34:06,347 --> 01:34:11,187
Speaker 2: Sames Fisher Harris. I know he's only just arrived, but

1828
01:34:12,227 --> 01:34:16,707
Speaker 2: he seems like the most obvious one. He has a

1829
01:34:16,707 --> 01:34:19,867
Speaker 2: lot on his plate though, doesn't he a marquee arrival,

1830
01:34:20,787 --> 01:34:25,107
Speaker 2: probably among the biggest signings in the club history, you know,

1831
01:34:25,187 --> 01:34:29,947
Speaker 2: and he's losing the support of Tohoo Harris. We know

1832
01:34:30,107 --> 01:34:33,547
Speaker 2: Adam Vanova Blake has also gone, Jazz Stavanger has also gone.

1833
01:34:33,587 --> 01:34:36,467
Speaker 2: So already James Fisher Harris has a lot to live

1834
01:34:36,547 --> 01:34:40,747
Speaker 2: up to and he's able to, there's no question. But

1835
01:34:40,867 --> 01:34:44,427
Speaker 2: do you also want to give him the extra responsibility

1836
01:34:45,387 --> 01:34:47,827
Speaker 2: of being captain or would you prefer to say, you

1837
01:34:47,907 --> 01:34:50,827
Speaker 2: know what, Fish as they call him, James Fisher Harris.

1838
01:34:51,027 --> 01:34:54,347
Speaker 2: You know what, James, you just concentrate on being the

1839
01:34:54,387 --> 01:34:57,467
Speaker 2: best rugby league player you can be and we'll take

1840
01:34:57,467 --> 01:35:02,067
Speaker 2: that captaincy away from your plate. You may well captain

1841
01:35:02,067 --> 01:35:04,987
Speaker 2: the side at stages the season or going forward, but

1842
01:35:06,387 --> 01:35:08,107
Speaker 2: it would be asking a lot of you to come

1843
01:35:08,147 --> 01:35:10,667
Speaker 2: in and do it straight away. So if it's not

1844
01:35:10,707 --> 01:35:13,507
Speaker 2: to be James Fisher Harris, then you get the feeling

1845
01:35:13,547 --> 01:35:15,147
Speaker 2: there's only one other guy. Only one of the guy

1846
01:35:15,147 --> 01:35:18,827
Speaker 2: I can think of. That's Mitch Barnett. Terrific last season,

1847
01:35:18,867 --> 01:35:23,187
Speaker 2: probably the standout player at the club. Last season. He

1848
01:35:23,307 --> 01:35:26,107
Speaker 2: got a State of Origin selection in the Kangaroo's selection.

1849
01:35:26,267 --> 01:35:30,027
Speaker 2: He's been a stand in captain when Tahoo Harris was available.

1850
01:35:30,107 --> 01:35:36,267
Speaker 2: Everybody respects him, he's good with the media, he appeals.

1851
01:35:37,227 --> 01:35:41,227
Speaker 2: Mitch Barnett is another possible candidate to have the full

1852
01:35:41,227 --> 01:35:44,307
Speaker 2: time captaincy. So those are the two really that I've

1853
01:35:44,347 --> 01:35:47,467
Speaker 2: seen talked about the most. Mitch Barnett and James Fisher,

1854
01:35:47,467 --> 01:35:50,787
Speaker 2: Harris others who I guess could be in the conversation.

1855
01:35:51,147 --> 01:35:55,267
Speaker 2: Roger to I Vasascheck has been talked about. He was

1856
01:35:55,267 --> 01:35:58,587
Speaker 2: a long serving captain, wasn't he at the Warriors? And

1857
01:35:58,587 --> 01:36:01,467
Speaker 2: he was very young twenty three. I think when he

1858
01:36:01,507 --> 01:36:05,147
Speaker 2: first took over as captain. I get the feeling he's

1859
01:36:05,187 --> 01:36:11,107
Speaker 2: probably just enjoyed being contributing without having the captaincy alongside

1860
01:36:11,107 --> 01:36:12,747
Speaker 2: his name. But you know, would he want to do

1861
01:36:12,787 --> 01:36:15,387
Speaker 2: it again? You know he might. I guess if he

1862
01:36:15,467 --> 01:36:17,467
Speaker 2: was asked, he would do it. I'm not sure that

1863
01:36:17,507 --> 01:36:21,267
Speaker 2: there's anybody in the team who if asked by Andrew

1864
01:36:21,267 --> 01:36:24,227
Speaker 2: Webster and Cameron George if they would like the captain

1865
01:36:24,267 --> 01:36:28,987
Speaker 2: the side would say no. So there's Roger Wade, Egan,

1866
01:36:29,067 --> 01:36:34,107
Speaker 2: perhaps Kurt Capewell, a couple of wild cards, maybe Chance,

1867
01:36:34,187 --> 01:36:38,787
Speaker 2: Nicol klukstar Jellen, why Tennis, a Lesniak. He's pretty inspiring.

1868
01:36:38,867 --> 01:36:42,827
Speaker 2: He led the keywis didn't he? So he's got captaincy experience.

1869
01:36:43,067 --> 01:36:45,907
Speaker 2: He keen to know from you who you think a

1870
01:36:46,027 --> 01:36:48,627
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty who should be the next

1871
01:36:48,707 --> 01:36:50,987
Speaker 2: Warriors skipper. And they're gonna have to make the decision

1872
01:36:50,987 --> 01:36:54,427
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, aren't they? And Tahu Harris, For those who

1873
01:36:54,507 --> 01:36:58,827
Speaker 2: have watched him over his long career twelve season six

1874
01:36:58,907 --> 01:37:01,227
Speaker 2: of those with the Warriors, the last six one hundred

1875
01:37:01,227 --> 01:37:04,387
Speaker 2: and seventeen games, where does he sit for you? What

1876
01:37:04,547 --> 01:37:08,387
Speaker 2: will his legacy be? Any particular performances or moments in

1877
01:37:08,467 --> 01:37:11,707
Speaker 2: the career of Tahoo Harris that stand out would love

1878
01:37:11,747 --> 01:37:14,387
Speaker 2: to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1879
01:37:14,507 --> 01:37:16,627
Speaker 2: I know it's a bit unseasonal and January to be

1880
01:37:16,707 --> 01:37:19,427
Speaker 2: talking rugby league, but this is a big story, a

1881
01:37:19,507 --> 01:37:23,107
Speaker 2: really big story, with Taho Harris deciding that he cannot

1882
01:37:23,147 --> 01:37:26,427
Speaker 2: go on for a thirteenth NRL season. Updating you on

1883
01:37:26,547 --> 01:37:31,467
Speaker 2: some live sport. The ASB Classic Singles Final Men Singles

1884
01:37:31,507 --> 01:37:34,547
Speaker 2: Final is ongoing and galmon Feasts is already out to

1885
01:37:34,587 --> 01:37:36,107
Speaker 2: a three love lead. He's got a break of serve

1886
01:37:36,107 --> 01:37:39,627
Speaker 2: already early in the game against ziezu Bergh's, so he

1887
01:37:39,707 --> 01:37:42,867
Speaker 2: leads three love in the first set, Berg serving to

1888
01:37:43,067 --> 01:37:44,907
Speaker 2: bring it back to three to one. I think galm

1889
01:37:44,947 --> 01:37:47,587
Speaker 2: on feast and would want to win this in two sets.

1890
01:37:47,627 --> 01:37:50,827
Speaker 2: I think if it goes to three, his slightly more

1891
01:37:50,907 --> 01:37:56,107
Speaker 2: experienced body might not thank him for that. And at

1892
01:37:56,147 --> 01:37:58,587
Speaker 2: the cricket at Eton Parks, just Acrosstown from the tennis

1893
01:37:59,347 --> 01:38:03,227
Speaker 2: Srilanka badding first twenty eight without loss after six overs

1894
01:38:03,667 --> 01:38:06,067
Speaker 2: in the third and final one day against New Zealand.

1895
01:38:06,347 --> 01:38:09,147
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport on News Talks B it is two twenty five.

1896
01:38:09,187 --> 01:38:09,867
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1897
01:38:10,387 --> 01:38:14,547
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1898
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1900
01:38:21,307 --> 01:38:23,707
Speaker 2: Twenty seven on News Talks B Martin Guptel before three

1901
01:38:23,787 --> 01:38:28,107
Speaker 2: o'clock but talking Toho Harris and his retirement, the legacy

1902
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Speaker 2: he leaves and the void he leaves as far as

1903
01:38:31,547 --> 01:38:34,667
Speaker 2: the captaincy is concerned. Nathan Limb from our sports team

1904
01:38:34,747 --> 01:38:37,907
Speaker 2: and the host of the Big League podcast, spoke to

1905
01:38:37,987 --> 01:38:39,947
Speaker 2: Andrew Webster in the last twenty four hours to get

1906
01:38:39,987 --> 01:38:42,307
Speaker 2: his reaction to this news. Started off first of all

1907
01:38:42,387 --> 01:38:45,907
Speaker 2: by by asking Andrew Webster what the communication had been

1908
01:38:46,027 --> 01:38:49,307
Speaker 2: like between Toho Harris and himself and his reaction to

1909
01:38:49,907 --> 01:38:51,627
Speaker 2: the decision that Toho Harris had made.

1910
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Speaker 17: Yeah, like a lot of our communications going to stay personal,

1911
01:38:55,747 --> 01:38:59,227
Speaker 17: but it's been as always teen Toy and myself, it's

1912
01:38:59,227 --> 01:39:00,147
Speaker 17: always been really good.

1913
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Speaker 6: I'm very grateful for that relationship.

1914
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Speaker 17: Yeah Who midway through last year was you know, like

1915
01:39:09,107 --> 01:39:11,867
Speaker 17: most great leaders, of the most great players, was playing

1916
01:39:11,947 --> 01:39:15,507
Speaker 17: through a risk injury and he was he was trying

1917
01:39:15,547 --> 01:39:17,787
Speaker 17: to do what he needed to do from the team,

1918
01:39:17,827 --> 01:39:19,587
Speaker 17: and I think we all acknowledge at the time that

1919
01:39:19,707 --> 01:39:22,027
Speaker 17: he needed to take a break. He had a rest,

1920
01:39:22,147 --> 01:39:24,267
Speaker 17: he came back and it didn't get any better, it

1921
01:39:24,307 --> 01:39:30,747
Speaker 17: got worse. So he had the operation and and we're

1922
01:39:30,747 --> 01:39:33,747
Speaker 17: all excited that a really good preseason, just so excited

1923
01:39:33,747 --> 01:39:36,467
Speaker 17: to get tour Who paying free and back playing, and

1924
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Speaker 17: it hasn't happened that way.

1925
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Speaker 6: So we're just communicated along the way. And I am

1926
01:39:45,227 --> 01:39:47,307
Speaker 6: I said this for myself. It's a bit I will

1927
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Speaker 6: share is I was.

1928
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Speaker 17: I'm really upset to hear it, like it was quite emotional,

1929
01:39:51,507 --> 01:39:54,427
Speaker 17: but I'm not surprised because I actually know what he's

1930
01:39:54,467 --> 01:39:54,947
Speaker 17: going through.

1931
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Speaker 6: I was, He's communicated to me what he's going through

1932
01:39:58,547 --> 01:39:59,427
Speaker 6: on a regular basis.

1933
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Speaker 2: So what had Tahu Harris been going through physically?

1934
01:40:03,107 --> 01:40:06,867
Speaker 6: Look, Toy who can only tell you it could tell

1935
01:40:06,867 --> 01:40:09,027
Speaker 6: you that way better than myself. But Yeah, he's just

1936
01:40:09,147 --> 01:40:11,747
Speaker 6: had pain through his wrists, like struggling with group, picking

1937
01:40:11,787 --> 01:40:16,947
Speaker 6: his kids up, his son up, you know, just you know,

1938
01:40:17,067 --> 01:40:19,707
Speaker 6: day to day chores when we're even hard for him.

1939
01:40:20,067 --> 01:40:24,427
Speaker 17: So it's yeah, it's pain basically, and movement and function

1940
01:40:24,867 --> 01:40:27,707
Speaker 17: how how how his risk function like gripping on something,

1941
01:40:27,787 --> 01:40:31,787
Speaker 17: And yeah, it's just it's not not not what anyone

1942
01:40:31,827 --> 01:40:34,147
Speaker 17: would want in the world, but let alone someone who's

1943
01:40:34,147 --> 01:40:35,907
Speaker 17: trying to play eighty minutes of rugby league at the

1944
01:40:35,987 --> 01:40:36,547
Speaker 17: highest level.

1945
01:40:36,867 --> 01:40:39,347
Speaker 2: So what is the process now for deciding the next

1946
01:40:39,627 --> 01:40:40,947
Speaker 2: skipper of the Warriors?

1947
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's important that we do have

1948
01:40:44,627 --> 01:40:47,827
Speaker 6: a clear process. I mean one first of all, like

1949
01:40:50,627 --> 01:40:52,867
Speaker 6: whoever he's going to be the captain is one? Do

1950
01:40:52,947 --> 01:40:54,707
Speaker 6: they want to be the captain? First of all?

1951
01:40:54,947 --> 01:40:58,147
Speaker 17: I mean not everyone wants to be that to do

1952
01:40:58,307 --> 01:41:02,827
Speaker 17: they have the respect of the players? Are they going

1953
01:41:02,907 --> 01:41:07,987
Speaker 17: to be a great leader? And where the players are

1954
01:41:07,987 --> 01:41:11,427
Speaker 17: in scenarios every day we see resilience, You see what.

1955
01:41:11,507 --> 01:41:14,187
Speaker 6: Their peers think of them, you see the way they

1956
01:41:14,307 --> 01:41:15,507
Speaker 6: lead on a daily basis.

1957
01:41:15,547 --> 01:41:17,867
Speaker 15: So we're just as usual.

1958
01:41:17,787 --> 01:41:20,147
Speaker 17: Going to have our antennas up and be watching and

1959
01:41:20,267 --> 01:41:23,347
Speaker 17: observing and seeing what we think it's going to be

1960
01:41:23,387 --> 01:41:24,507
Speaker 17: the best fit for this group.

1961
01:41:25,587 --> 01:41:28,907
Speaker 6: It's just not going to be made. Like I highly

1962
01:41:29,027 --> 01:41:33,307
Speaker 6: rely on our staff. They're excellent, they're very experienced. They've

1963
01:41:33,307 --> 01:41:34,427
Speaker 6: been head coaches.

1964
01:41:34,107 --> 01:41:36,907
Speaker 17: Themselves, and they've seen a million different captains that's on

1965
01:41:37,027 --> 01:41:40,387
Speaker 17: stage in their careers, either playing or coaching, and we're

1966
01:41:40,427 --> 01:41:43,467
Speaker 17: just going to observe and take that and go through

1967
01:41:43,907 --> 01:41:44,987
Speaker 17: a really strong process.

1968
01:41:45,347 --> 01:41:47,387
Speaker 2: So apart from the captain, see, there is also the

1969
01:41:48,027 --> 01:41:51,387
Speaker 2: matter of replacing Tohu Harris as a player. So how

1970
01:41:51,427 --> 01:41:53,267
Speaker 2: does Andrew Webster plan to do that?

1971
01:41:54,907 --> 01:41:56,347
Speaker 6: That's going to be very hard for us.

1972
01:41:56,587 --> 01:41:59,427
Speaker 17: Like you say, so, I think, what, we don't have

1973
01:41:59,547 --> 01:42:04,987
Speaker 17: to fill out our thirtieth spot until June thirty. By

1974
01:42:05,067 --> 01:42:09,507
Speaker 17: round one, you've got to have twenty players out of

1975
01:42:09,587 --> 01:42:12,187
Speaker 17: your third squad committed. That's the rules of the NRL.

1976
01:42:12,947 --> 01:42:16,907
Speaker 17: So we're just gonna because this is like we've just

1977
01:42:17,027 --> 01:42:19,987
Speaker 17: been told about this, So we're just going to take stock,

1978
01:42:20,067 --> 01:42:22,547
Speaker 17: make sure we don't rush into anything, be really calm,

1979
01:42:23,067 --> 01:42:26,427
Speaker 17: see what's out there, and make a decision like are

1980
01:42:26,467 --> 01:42:28,827
Speaker 17: we like, like you said, are we like really happy

1981
01:42:28,907 --> 01:42:30,947
Speaker 17: with our forwards that are already in our top thirty

1982
01:42:31,027 --> 01:42:34,547
Speaker 17: that they can step up and given give them that opportunity,

1983
01:42:34,627 --> 01:42:38,107
Speaker 17: and then maybe we recruit somewhere else in another position.

1984
01:42:38,227 --> 01:42:39,707
Speaker 6: But right now we're going to be.

1985
01:42:39,827 --> 01:42:42,547
Speaker 17: Very calm, see what's out there and just take hold

1986
01:42:42,627 --> 01:42:46,307
Speaker 17: of our you know, our situation and see where we are.

1987
01:42:46,467 --> 01:42:50,227
Speaker 2: A bit more from Andrew Webster. James Fisher Harris has arrived. Now,

1988
01:42:50,347 --> 01:42:53,227
Speaker 2: So what's he been like since his arrival at the Warriors.

1989
01:42:53,667 --> 01:42:57,107
Speaker 17: It just brings presents Fish, you know, like he's not

1990
01:42:57,227 --> 01:43:01,427
Speaker 17: the allowdest talk or when he talks, people listen, it's

1991
01:43:01,507 --> 01:43:04,507
Speaker 17: absolute gold. Like one word he says his goal for

1992
01:43:04,587 --> 01:43:06,947
Speaker 17: the team and you can see the effect that that

1993
01:43:07,067 --> 01:43:07,747
Speaker 17: has on people.

1994
01:43:08,307 --> 01:43:13,027
Speaker 6: His leadership is very clear that he's been himself and

1995
01:43:13,147 --> 01:43:15,507
Speaker 6: he leads from his standards. Like the way he trains

1996
01:43:15,667 --> 01:43:16,947
Speaker 6: is really intense.

1997
01:43:18,387 --> 01:43:21,187
Speaker 17: He brings a high level and we want training to

1998
01:43:21,267 --> 01:43:24,747
Speaker 17: be harder than the competition, and a train like that

1999
01:43:25,347 --> 01:43:29,707
Speaker 17: cat makes should be a very joyful time for the boys,

2000
01:43:29,747 --> 01:43:33,107
Speaker 17: you know, and Fishers just brings it naturally.

2001
01:43:33,187 --> 01:43:34,747
Speaker 6: He brings up by his actions every day.

2002
01:43:34,987 --> 01:43:38,547
Speaker 2: And so therefore as James for Sha Harris and the

2003
01:43:38,667 --> 01:43:40,147
Speaker 2: running for the captaincy.

2004
01:43:40,387 --> 01:43:42,387
Speaker 17: The Captains of New Zealand, so I think he has

2005
01:43:42,467 --> 01:43:46,147
Speaker 17: to be. I haven't spoken to him about it, but

2006
01:43:46,307 --> 01:43:49,507
Speaker 17: I think he's in the conversation. But yeah, we've got

2007
01:43:49,547 --> 01:43:52,867
Speaker 17: We've got a lot of really good candidates. But yeah,

2008
01:43:52,907 --> 01:43:53,867
Speaker 17: he has just arrived.

2009
01:43:53,947 --> 01:43:58,107
Speaker 6: And I'm not putting that on Fish's plate like today.

2010
01:43:59,267 --> 01:44:02,427
Speaker 6: You know, he's he wants to get better at his game.

2011
01:44:02,467 --> 01:44:03,267
Speaker 6: He wants to connect with.

2012
01:44:03,307 --> 01:44:06,227
Speaker 17: The players, he wants to learn our calls, the way

2013
01:44:06,507 --> 01:44:09,147
Speaker 17: we do things, and then he wants to add his

2014
01:44:10,347 --> 01:44:12,347
Speaker 17: you know how, he thinks we can improve too. So

2015
01:44:13,667 --> 01:44:16,507
Speaker 17: he's got a lot going on Fish, And to be

2016
01:44:16,547 --> 01:44:19,147
Speaker 17: bringing Insteadered, I don't need to be bringing that up

2017
01:44:19,147 --> 01:44:19,707
Speaker 17: with him right now.

2018
01:44:19,907 --> 01:44:22,387
Speaker 2: That is Andrew Webster and his thoughts on the retirement

2019
01:44:22,467 --> 01:44:25,467
Speaker 2: of Tahoo Harris and who might succeed him as captain.

2020
01:44:25,507 --> 01:44:27,267
Speaker 2: More to come obviously over the next little while. On

2021
01:44:27,347 --> 01:44:30,867
Speaker 2: this text here, Fish has the cultural aspects cover put

2022
01:44:30,947 --> 01:44:33,947
Speaker 2: him in the ex Panthers have that X factor and humility,

2023
01:44:33,987 --> 01:44:35,827
Speaker 2: it puts them in front. Look at the Bulldogs they

2024
01:44:35,907 --> 01:44:39,107
Speaker 2: flew last season. Or make James Fisher Harris co captain

2025
01:44:39,267 --> 01:44:42,707
Speaker 2: with Mitch up the Wars up the Wars Indeed, twenty

2026
01:44:42,747 --> 01:44:44,267
Speaker 2: six away from three, we'll take a break when we

2027
01:44:44,347 --> 01:44:46,867
Speaker 2: come back off to Eden Park and a chat to

2028
01:44:47,227 --> 01:44:50,667
Speaker 2: the now internationally retired Martin Gupdel.

2029
01:44:51,187 --> 01:44:54,707
Speaker 1: The voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

2030
01:44:54,827 --> 01:44:58,667
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Van and GJ. Gunn Homes New Zealand's

2031
01:44:58,707 --> 01:45:00,987
Speaker 1: most trusted own builder News Dogs Evy.

2032
01:45:01,507 --> 01:45:05,467
Speaker 2: Two thirty seven, Martin Gupdel has officially confirmed his retirement

2033
01:45:05,547 --> 01:45:10,907
Speaker 2: from Internation cricket one nine to eighth. Here is the delivery.

2034
01:45:10,987 --> 01:45:15,027
Speaker 20: Martin Guptil drives down the crowd. Four more Stand up

2035
01:45:15,107 --> 01:45:19,147
Speaker 20: New Zealand, Stand up the worlds two one hundred and three,

2036
01:45:19,267 --> 01:45:23,627
Speaker 20: not out Martin Guptel, jous glorias at the start of

2037
01:45:23,627 --> 01:45:24,187
Speaker 20: the fifteenth.

2038
01:45:24,867 --> 01:45:27,827
Speaker 2: That's gonna be on the roof. It's enormous and that's

2039
01:45:27,947 --> 01:45:30,667
Speaker 2: up the room for any.

2040
01:45:30,427 --> 01:45:33,627
Speaker 12: About the fourth or fifth time here at Wellington Stadium,

2041
01:45:34,387 --> 01:45:37,147
Speaker 12: Martin Guptel has sent a ball out of the arena

2042
01:45:37,387 --> 01:45:40,427
Speaker 12: on the top of the cake turn the second highest

2043
01:45:40,427 --> 01:45:42,707
Speaker 12: score of one day international cricket.

2044
01:45:42,627 --> 01:45:45,627
Speaker 2: History, people, indeed history, it's quite out. We come to

2045
01:45:45,747 --> 01:45:47,947
Speaker 2: Martin Guppler at two thirty seven, given that was a

2046
01:45:47,987 --> 01:45:51,347
Speaker 2: score that day, not out. Across a fourteen year international career,

2047
01:45:51,507 --> 01:45:54,907
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty seven games for New Zealand across

2048
01:45:55,027 --> 01:45:59,707
Speaker 2: the formats, twenty three international centuries, and numerous white ball

2049
01:45:59,787 --> 01:46:04,187
Speaker 2: batting records. Here is New Zealand's highest T twenty international

2050
01:46:04,267 --> 01:46:07,627
Speaker 2: run scorer and third on our list of ODI run scores,

2051
01:46:07,667 --> 01:46:11,627
Speaker 2: behind only Ross Taylor and Stephen Fleming. Martin Guptel being

2052
01:46:11,667 --> 01:46:14,707
Speaker 2: officially acknowledged at Eden Park today during the third ODI

2053
01:46:14,907 --> 01:46:17,347
Speaker 2: between New Zealand and Sri Lanka. But he's taking the

2054
01:46:17,387 --> 01:46:19,387
Speaker 2: time to join us for a chat. Martin, Thank you

2055
01:46:19,507 --> 01:46:23,587
Speaker 2: for doing so. Congratulations on an incredible career. How do

2056
01:46:23,707 --> 01:46:28,627
Speaker 2: you reflect on it in its totality? First of all, first.

2057
01:46:28,427 --> 01:46:32,147
Speaker 5: All, thank you very much. Yeah, so I sort of

2058
01:46:32,347 --> 01:46:35,347
Speaker 5: still pinching myself that it's actually all happened. You know,

2059
01:46:35,747 --> 01:46:37,587
Speaker 5: been out of the game a couple of years now,

2060
01:46:37,667 --> 01:46:40,627
Speaker 5: and you know it's just yeh, as I said, I

2061
01:46:40,747 --> 01:46:42,867
Speaker 5: just sort of pinched myself. It's still pretty surreal that

2062
01:46:42,947 --> 01:46:46,107
Speaker 5: it's all sort of transpired the way it has. And yeah,

2063
01:46:46,507 --> 01:46:48,427
Speaker 5: but it's all also look back it with a miss

2064
01:46:48,987 --> 01:46:51,587
Speaker 5: pride that had actually happened and I was able to

2065
01:46:52,107 --> 01:46:53,347
Speaker 5: do it for so long for New Zealand.

2066
01:46:53,867 --> 01:46:55,907
Speaker 2: You're at Eden Park at the moment that was the

2067
01:46:55,987 --> 01:46:58,987
Speaker 2: scene of your ODI debut, of course, the first New

2068
01:46:59,107 --> 01:47:01,027
Speaker 2: Zealand to to score a century on ODI day BELI

2069
01:47:01,027 --> 01:47:03,027
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two not out against the Windy's there.

2070
01:47:03,547 --> 01:47:08,187
Speaker 2: Could you remember being nervous before that innings a little bit?

2071
01:47:08,467 --> 01:47:10,827
Speaker 5: I actually remember being more nervous before my test they

2072
01:47:10,907 --> 01:47:14,867
Speaker 5: boo than my actual debut from New Zealand. So but yeah,

2073
01:47:15,387 --> 01:47:17,987
Speaker 5: setting up here now and being able to look down

2074
01:47:18,067 --> 01:47:20,307
Speaker 5: and just remember how the ground was back then, obviously

2075
01:47:20,387 --> 01:47:22,547
Speaker 5: on the angle and a very different dimension to what

2076
01:47:22,627 --> 01:47:25,027
Speaker 5: it is now, it brings back some really good memories.

2077
01:47:25,547 --> 01:47:28,267
Speaker 2: You've been playing for Auckland for three summers before that.

2078
01:47:28,427 --> 01:47:30,427
Speaker 2: Did you feel ready for international cricket?

2079
01:47:32,027 --> 01:47:34,907
Speaker 5: I don't think you ever feel ready. I can just

2080
01:47:34,947 --> 01:47:37,107
Speaker 5: remember the call coming out of the blue. You know,

2081
01:47:37,187 --> 01:47:39,907
Speaker 5: I'd had a couple of good things for Auckland letting

2082
01:47:39,947 --> 01:47:42,827
Speaker 5: into that, and yeah, just a total shock you actually

2083
01:47:42,827 --> 01:47:46,827
Speaker 5: get the call and yeah, and then obviously what happened

2084
01:47:46,867 --> 01:47:50,387
Speaker 5: after that was nothing short of pretty awesome for me.

2085
01:47:51,347 --> 01:47:53,667
Speaker 2: The two three seven not out at Wellington. We just

2086
01:47:53,747 --> 01:47:56,507
Speaker 2: heard some highlights from it during the twenty fifteen World Cup.

2087
01:47:57,027 --> 01:47:59,987
Speaker 2: Where is that innings right among all of the innings

2088
01:48:00,027 --> 01:48:00,507
Speaker 2: you've played.

2089
01:48:01,587 --> 01:48:03,227
Speaker 5: It's in my top three. I wouldn't say it's my

2090
01:48:03,387 --> 01:48:06,547
Speaker 5: number one, but it's definitely up there. I mean it's

2091
01:48:06,587 --> 01:48:07,947
Speaker 5: pretty It was pretty special day.

2092
01:48:08,707 --> 01:48:08,867
Speaker 6: You know.

2093
01:48:08,947 --> 01:48:10,667
Speaker 5: There was a great worker down there in Wellington and

2094
01:48:11,227 --> 01:48:12,907
Speaker 5: a hell of a day, you know, no clouds in

2095
01:48:12,947 --> 01:48:16,227
Speaker 5: the sky, and yeah, everything just sort of went my

2096
01:48:16,347 --> 01:48:18,507
Speaker 5: way and I was able to do what I did.

2097
01:48:19,147 --> 01:48:21,947
Speaker 2: Everybody is asking if that's not number one, what is.

2098
01:48:24,387 --> 01:48:24,427
Speaker 21: So?

2099
01:48:24,547 --> 01:48:26,907
Speaker 5: Excuse me? I rate my one hundred and eighty not

2100
01:48:27,027 --> 01:48:30,027
Speaker 5: out against South Africa and Hamilton, that's my number one, noock.

2101
01:48:30,067 --> 01:48:33,547
Speaker 5: It was on a tougher wicket against probably what was

2102
01:48:33,547 --> 01:48:36,587
Speaker 5: a better bowling attack, and yeah, to be able to

2103
01:48:36,627 --> 01:48:39,427
Speaker 5: see it through and be out of the end, to

2104
01:48:39,507 --> 01:48:41,747
Speaker 5: have that score was definitely my number one innings.

2105
01:48:42,587 --> 01:48:44,507
Speaker 2: And it's not one leg as well, to be fair.

2106
01:48:44,867 --> 01:48:46,947
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw my hands ring in the field, so

2107
01:48:47,907 --> 01:48:49,467
Speaker 5: on one leg as well can see it through. It

2108
01:48:49,547 --> 01:48:50,147
Speaker 5: was pretty special.

2109
01:48:50,427 --> 01:48:52,227
Speaker 2: Oh we can double it, then we can double the score.

2110
01:48:52,667 --> 01:48:55,027
Speaker 2: It's worth tights as much on one league. The heads

2111
01:48:55,027 --> 01:48:56,947
Speaker 2: onto the heads on to the roof though at sky

2112
01:48:57,067 --> 01:49:00,347
Speaker 2: Stadium or Westpac Stadium, Wellington Stadium as it was then,

2113
01:49:00,507 --> 01:49:02,907
Speaker 2: was that your biggest hit or was there one or

2114
01:49:03,467 --> 01:49:04,347
Speaker 2: more bigger than that?

2115
01:49:06,627 --> 01:49:09,187
Speaker 5: Like honesty, couldn't tell you there's I've had. I've had

2116
01:49:09,227 --> 01:49:12,387
Speaker 5: a few decent ones in my time, but yeah, it

2117
01:49:12,467 --> 01:49:13,827
Speaker 5: might be the biggest one I've had on the roof

2118
01:49:13,907 --> 01:49:16,867
Speaker 5: there that Okay, I've had three out there just for

2119
01:49:16,947 --> 01:49:20,107
Speaker 5: the records, so just throw that out there. But no,

2120
01:49:20,467 --> 01:49:22,267
Speaker 5: I actually couldn't tell you which was my biggest one.

2121
01:49:22,347 --> 01:49:24,987
Speaker 5: It's but it definitely would be up there somewhere.

2122
01:49:25,987 --> 01:49:28,707
Speaker 2: When do you reckon Martin? Was your absolute sweet spot?

2123
01:49:28,787 --> 01:49:31,787
Speaker 2: When do you think you were batting at your absolute best?

2124
01:49:33,027 --> 01:49:39,387
Speaker 5: Probably twenty sixteen seventeen for that through that, Yeah, well

2125
01:49:39,387 --> 01:49:41,267
Speaker 5: it makes me pre probably from after the World twenty

2126
01:49:41,267 --> 01:49:44,187
Speaker 5: Steen willcarp As everything sort of was about two years

2127
01:49:44,227 --> 01:49:46,467
Speaker 5: where I was probably at the top of my game,

2128
01:49:46,507 --> 01:49:48,387
Speaker 5: and that's where I felt like I was really really

2129
01:49:48,427 --> 01:49:50,427
Speaker 5: on top of my game. So that sort of yeah,

2130
01:49:50,467 --> 01:49:54,467
Speaker 5: sixteen to seventeen years definitely when I was at my peak.

2131
01:49:55,307 --> 01:49:58,267
Speaker 2: Was there anybody in particular who enjoyed batting.

2132
01:49:57,987 --> 01:50:02,667
Speaker 5: With I'm enjoy batting with everyone, you know. I had

2133
01:50:02,707 --> 01:50:06,267
Speaker 5: some some fantastic meetings with Brenda mccarlan. We had great

2134
01:50:06,347 --> 01:50:09,307
Speaker 5: partnerships Caine, Williams and we we had some good ones.

2135
01:50:09,427 --> 01:50:12,867
Speaker 5: Roscoe as well. Couldn't put a number on anyone, but

2136
01:50:13,027 --> 01:50:15,667
Speaker 5: also Colin and Rowe and the T twenty stuff. We're

2137
01:50:15,707 --> 01:50:18,147
Speaker 5: put on some great partnerships, whether it's for Auckland or

2138
01:50:18,987 --> 01:50:21,067
Speaker 5: or for New Zealand, and even in some French my

2139
01:50:21,147 --> 01:50:23,947
Speaker 5: stuff as well, we've better together. So I can't say

2140
01:50:24,467 --> 01:50:26,427
Speaker 5: thing about any one person. You just you just find

2141
01:50:26,467 --> 01:50:27,787
Speaker 5: a bit of a flow with whoever you're bating with

2142
01:50:27,867 --> 01:50:28,667
Speaker 5: and have a bit of fun with it.

2143
01:50:29,307 --> 01:50:31,907
Speaker 2: And let's not forget your your feats in the field

2144
01:50:31,987 --> 01:50:33,667
Speaker 2: as well. The run out of ms DONI and the

2145
01:50:33,667 --> 01:50:36,587
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen World Cup semi final. How fond of your

2146
01:50:36,587 --> 01:50:37,107
Speaker 2: memories of that?

2147
01:50:39,147 --> 01:50:41,547
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty pretty good. Sort of all happened a bit

2148
01:50:41,587 --> 01:50:44,787
Speaker 5: of slow motion to start with. I can remember vividly that,

2149
01:50:44,987 --> 01:50:45,387
Speaker 5: you know, the win.

2150
01:50:45,467 --> 01:50:45,987
Speaker 2: The ball went off.

2151
01:50:45,987 --> 01:50:48,067
Speaker 5: I thought it was just landing up and going to

2152
01:50:48,187 --> 01:50:49,787
Speaker 5: try for a catch, and then I realized it was

2153
01:50:49,827 --> 01:50:51,387
Speaker 5: sort of coming more towards me and I had to

2154
01:50:51,427 --> 01:50:54,187
Speaker 5: get off Gelfa mark pretty quick. So yeah, I got

2155
01:50:54,267 --> 01:50:57,667
Speaker 5: in there and up through and all that. That part

2156
01:50:57,707 --> 01:51:00,227
Speaker 5: happened very quickly. That was a bit of a split

2157
01:51:00,587 --> 01:51:03,627
Speaker 5: split second how it all transpire there, But luckily for

2158
01:51:03,827 --> 01:51:05,827
Speaker 5: New Zealand, I know I threw one straight.

2159
01:51:07,227 --> 01:51:10,067
Speaker 2: And the game that followed. How often do you think

2160
01:51:10,107 --> 01:51:13,267
Speaker 2: back to the twenty nineteen Cricket World Cup Final?

2161
01:51:15,107 --> 01:51:18,427
Speaker 5: Not too often earlier on? It was, it was, It

2162
01:51:18,547 --> 01:51:21,147
Speaker 5: was pretty Yeah, still still pretty wrong in the memories,

2163
01:51:21,187 --> 01:51:22,747
Speaker 5: but not so much these days now.

2164
01:51:23,267 --> 01:51:26,307
Speaker 2: All right, and now madam you're bowling. You twice took

2165
01:51:26,387 --> 01:51:29,307
Speaker 2: three for, You took three for twice, and test matches

2166
01:51:29,387 --> 01:51:32,427
Speaker 2: you twice took two for. And odieis are you actually

2167
01:51:32,467 --> 01:51:34,107
Speaker 2: an underused all rounder.

2168
01:51:35,467 --> 01:51:42,027
Speaker 5: A very reluctant underusiual round, yeah, brilliant leaves the bowling

2169
01:51:42,067 --> 01:51:42,827
Speaker 5: up to the professionals.

2170
01:51:43,547 --> 01:51:45,627
Speaker 2: Right, well, I know you've got other commitments, but I

2171
01:51:45,867 --> 01:51:47,547
Speaker 2: just would like to ask you a couple more One is,

2172
01:51:47,547 --> 01:51:49,107
Speaker 2: how much longer do you think you'll go on? You've

2173
01:51:49,107 --> 01:51:52,467
Speaker 2: got franchise cricket obviously opportunities. How much longer do you

2174
01:51:52,507 --> 01:51:53,067
Speaker 2: reckon You've.

2175
01:51:52,947 --> 01:51:56,547
Speaker 5: Got I've hopefully got another couple of years lifted me

2176
01:51:56,627 --> 01:52:00,987
Speaker 5: yet the Religious League starting up and got overtire get

2177
01:52:01,067 --> 01:52:02,787
Speaker 5: them back into the game. That sort of things. Those

2178
01:52:02,827 --> 01:52:03,987
Speaker 5: are always hopefully going.

2179
01:52:03,987 --> 01:52:04,947
Speaker 2: To be there for me for a while.

2180
01:52:05,627 --> 01:52:07,467
Speaker 5: But to do it time, I hopefully got to have

2181
01:52:07,507 --> 01:52:10,107
Speaker 5: a couple of us listed me before I can especially

2182
01:52:10,147 --> 01:52:10,787
Speaker 5: hang the Vicus.

2183
01:52:11,547 --> 01:52:13,907
Speaker 2: And just finally, how would you like to be remembered

2184
01:52:13,947 --> 01:52:15,387
Speaker 2: by New Zealand cricket fans?

2185
01:52:16,867 --> 01:52:19,907
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, that's something I've never really thought of. You know,

2186
01:52:20,387 --> 01:52:22,267
Speaker 5: when over I played for New Zealand, I always gave.

2187
01:52:22,187 --> 01:52:22,587
Speaker 6: It my all.

2188
01:52:23,827 --> 01:52:26,667
Speaker 5: Didn't always come off that's yeah, I definitely gave it

2189
01:52:26,747 --> 01:52:28,307
Speaker 5: my all. It's just every time I went out there,

2190
01:52:28,347 --> 01:52:30,067
Speaker 5: and you know, I had a lot of fun doing it.

2191
01:52:30,187 --> 01:52:32,947
Speaker 5: So I'm not sure how well we remembered, but hopefully

2192
01:52:32,947 --> 01:52:33,827
Speaker 5: it's only good things.

2193
01:52:34,307 --> 01:52:36,267
Speaker 2: Well I think it will be good things if all

2194
01:52:36,307 --> 01:52:37,827
Speaker 2: of the reading I've done in the last little while

2195
01:52:37,827 --> 01:52:40,547
Speaker 2: as anything to go by. Martin, congratulations again on a

2196
01:52:40,627 --> 01:52:43,267
Speaker 2: terrific career. Thank you for everything you gave to cricket

2197
01:52:43,307 --> 01:52:45,067
Speaker 2: fans up and down this country and around the world.

2198
01:52:45,107 --> 01:52:46,987
Speaker 2: And again, thank you for taking the time for a

2199
01:52:47,067 --> 01:52:47,827
Speaker 2: chat this afternoon.

2200
01:52:48,587 --> 01:52:50,387
Speaker 5: No, thank you very much for having me. I appreciate it.

2201
01:52:50,827 --> 01:52:53,147
Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much. Indeed, Martin, thanks for you

2202
01:52:53,227 --> 01:52:55,947
Speaker 2: taking the time. Martin Guptel there from Eden Park where

2203
01:52:55,987 --> 01:52:59,147
Speaker 2: he is the center of attention today being acknowledged for

2204
01:52:59,667 --> 01:53:03,707
Speaker 2: what has been what was a terrific career for New Zealand.

2205
01:53:03,907 --> 01:53:09,107
Speaker 2: You know, the numbers are just astonishingly good, incredibly good

2206
01:53:09,827 --> 01:53:11,907
Speaker 2: across the formats. Two and a half thousand runs in

2207
01:53:11,987 --> 01:53:15,387
Speaker 2: Test matches nearly seven and a half thousand in one

2208
01:53:15,507 --> 01:53:17,907
Speaker 2: day is over three and a half thousand in T

2209
01:53:18,107 --> 01:53:22,467
Speaker 2: twenty internationals. Nobody has scored more in T twenty Internationals

2210
01:53:22,547 --> 01:53:25,387
Speaker 2: than Martin Guptel in so many moments, the two three

2211
01:53:25,507 --> 01:53:30,147
Speaker 2: seven I think is still my favorite cricketing moment at

2212
01:53:30,467 --> 01:53:34,027
Speaker 2: Sky Stadium, at Wellington Stadium, I've watched a lot of

2213
01:53:34,067 --> 01:53:38,187
Speaker 2: cricket in my life. I haven't watched an awfully large

2214
01:53:38,187 --> 01:53:41,107
Speaker 2: amount at the stadium because it's been mainly whiteball stuff

2215
01:53:41,147 --> 01:53:44,027
Speaker 2: since the stadium came to be in two thousand. But

2216
01:53:44,467 --> 01:53:48,427
Speaker 2: that day with what Martin Guptel did two hundred and

2217
01:53:48,667 --> 01:53:54,307
Speaker 2: thirty seven not out in a World Cup quarterfinal to

2218
01:53:54,427 --> 01:53:57,667
Speaker 2: basically take the game away from the West Indies. Just

2219
01:53:57,947 --> 01:54:03,307
Speaker 2: a remarkable display that day, Just an incredible display of

2220
01:54:03,427 --> 01:54:05,387
Speaker 2: batsmanship from Martin Gupdel that day.

2221
01:54:05,707 --> 01:54:09,307
Speaker 22: Hello Peter, Well, thank you for that interview. I was

2222
01:54:09,347 --> 01:54:12,107
Speaker 22: looking forward to it. Yesterday you mentioned that you were

2223
01:54:12,147 --> 01:54:14,827
Speaker 22: going to do it, and you did it. I haven't

2224
01:54:14,987 --> 01:54:19,067
Speaker 22: really seen an interview or heard an interview really before,

2225
01:54:19,107 --> 01:54:21,947
Speaker 22: because it's you know, I don't normally have the time

2226
01:54:22,067 --> 01:54:24,227
Speaker 22: to do everything. But you know, that was a very

2227
01:54:24,227 --> 01:54:26,107
Speaker 22: good interview. I didn't get the beginning of it, so

2228
01:54:26,187 --> 01:54:28,707
Speaker 22: I have to go back and listen to the beginning.

2229
01:54:28,787 --> 01:54:32,347
Speaker 22: And I thought, well rounded and well grounded, and people

2230
01:54:32,507 --> 01:54:34,067
Speaker 22: like that make sensible decisions.

2231
01:54:34,667 --> 01:54:38,747
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. He's always struck me Martin Guppdel

2232
01:54:38,747 --> 01:54:43,547
Speaker 2: as very considered bloke. You know, he's navigated the ups

2233
01:54:43,587 --> 01:54:47,187
Speaker 2: and downs of a long career with dignity and with grace,

2234
01:54:47,267 --> 01:54:50,187
Speaker 2: and look, he's often been, for some reason, Peter a

2235
01:54:50,227 --> 01:54:52,707
Speaker 2: bit of a lightning rod for keewe cricket fans. I

2236
01:54:52,747 --> 01:54:56,347
Speaker 2: think when New Zealand lost often it was Martin Gupdel's fault.

2237
01:54:56,587 --> 01:54:58,627
Speaker 2: He only had to fail once or twice and all

2238
01:54:58,627 --> 01:55:02,107
Speaker 2: of a sudden he's in the gun. But no, I agree,

2239
01:55:03,427 --> 01:55:05,507
Speaker 2: he strikes me as a terrific human being and I've

2240
01:55:05,547 --> 01:55:07,747
Speaker 2: loved loved watching him play cricket for New Zealand.

2241
01:55:08,627 --> 01:55:11,267
Speaker 22: Well, thank you for making that interview happened that was

2242
01:55:11,627 --> 01:55:12,667
Speaker 22: much appreciated.

2243
01:55:13,187 --> 01:55:15,627
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in with your appreciation, Peter. I

2244
01:55:15,747 --> 01:55:19,067
Speaker 2: do appreciate that it's not often we get a praise

2245
01:55:19,307 --> 01:55:22,427
Speaker 2: like that, so thank you and thank you to Martin

2246
01:55:22,467 --> 01:55:26,067
Speaker 2: gup to Land New Zealand Cricket for making that possible

2247
01:55:26,267 --> 01:55:30,027
Speaker 2: for us. Speaking of eden Park, Martin Gupta watching on

2248
01:55:30,267 --> 01:55:32,507
Speaker 2: as his team New Zealand try to get the first wicket.

2249
01:55:33,147 --> 01:55:35,787
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka have gone through to sixty seven without loss

2250
01:55:35,827 --> 01:55:38,627
Speaker 2: in the eleventh over, having won the toss and batted first,

2251
01:55:38,867 --> 01:55:40,227
Speaker 2: so over six and a half and over at the

2252
01:55:40,227 --> 01:55:44,827
Speaker 2: moment Avishka and Kusl mendus at the crease together as

2253
01:55:44,907 --> 01:55:47,907
Speaker 2: yet no breakthrough for New Zealand. As we know, Eden

2254
01:55:47,987 --> 01:55:51,267
Speaker 2: Park can be a bit of a well. It can

2255
01:55:51,347 --> 01:55:54,227
Speaker 2: be a place where runs can flow if you get

2256
01:55:54,267 --> 01:55:57,707
Speaker 2: on a bit of a roll. Fine day there, rock

2257
01:55:57,787 --> 01:55:59,587
Speaker 2: hard track looks like a bit of a road out there.

2258
01:55:59,707 --> 01:56:03,947
Speaker 2: So yeah, some thinking to do for Mitchell Santna and

2259
01:56:04,027 --> 01:56:06,267
Speaker 2: in fact what he's done is taking the ball himself

2260
01:56:06,627 --> 01:56:08,667
Speaker 2: in the eleventh over to try and find the breakthrough

2261
01:56:08,787 --> 01:56:12,427
Speaker 2: or at least to slow shorl Anchor down twelve to three.

2262
01:56:12,587 --> 01:56:15,107
Speaker 2: Just a quick circle back to football, Before we finished

2263
01:56:15,147 --> 01:56:18,467
Speaker 2: the show, I mentioned the Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC,

2264
01:56:18,627 --> 01:56:20,827
Speaker 2: both in action today and the A League men's competition.

2265
01:56:21,387 --> 01:56:23,947
Speaker 2: The Phoenix play Adelaide United in just over two hours

2266
01:56:23,987 --> 01:56:26,507
Speaker 2: five o'clock kick off down at Sky Stadium as they

2267
01:56:26,547 --> 01:56:29,947
Speaker 2: look to turn things around. I spoke to Poldo Retray,

2268
01:56:30,547 --> 01:56:33,907
Speaker 2: their veteran midfielder who brought up two hundred games recently

2269
01:56:34,267 --> 01:56:37,187
Speaker 2: during the week, to get his sense of what is

2270
01:56:37,307 --> 01:56:38,427
Speaker 2: needed ahead of this one.

2271
01:56:39,027 --> 01:56:39,187
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2272
01:56:39,227 --> 01:56:43,547
Speaker 21: Look, I think obviously the results haven't been good, but yeah,

2273
01:56:43,547 --> 01:56:46,147
Speaker 21: I think we're just trying to stick together and yeah,

2274
01:56:46,307 --> 01:56:48,107
Speaker 21: obviously trying to grow as the season goes.

2275
01:56:48,827 --> 01:56:49,707
Speaker 2: There's the long way to go.

2276
01:56:49,907 --> 01:56:53,547
Speaker 21: So I feel like, you know, it's easy to obviously

2277
01:56:53,867 --> 01:56:56,507
Speaker 21: be down, but you have to try and obviously pick

2278
01:56:56,547 --> 01:56:59,307
Speaker 21: yourself up and just yeah, I guess worry about ourselves

2279
01:56:59,387 --> 01:57:01,787
Speaker 21: in game by game, trying to pick up points and

2280
01:57:01,867 --> 01:57:02,947
Speaker 21: improve on performances.

2281
01:57:02,987 --> 01:57:04,867
Speaker 2: I guess you've been around the game for a while.

2282
01:57:05,067 --> 01:57:07,627
Speaker 2: What is it about some sides allows them to do that,

2283
01:57:07,827 --> 01:57:11,307
Speaker 2: to go through tough, you know, phases and then turn

2284
01:57:11,387 --> 01:57:12,747
Speaker 2: it around on the other side and go back up

2285
01:57:12,787 --> 01:57:13,187
Speaker 2: with again.

2286
01:57:14,387 --> 01:57:16,467
Speaker 21: Yeah, I guess the main thing is obviously. Yeah, just

2287
01:57:16,547 --> 01:57:20,307
Speaker 21: trying to focus on ourselves and trying to obviously build

2288
01:57:20,387 --> 01:57:23,347
Speaker 21: on a performance each week. And I think eventually, obviously

2289
01:57:23,467 --> 01:57:26,427
Speaker 21: you obviously get out of it. So yeah, it's just

2290
01:57:26,467 --> 01:57:29,827
Speaker 21: obviously trying to ride the wave at the moment, and yeah,

2291
01:57:29,867 --> 01:57:33,467
Speaker 21: and just trying to be positive, I guess, And yeah,

2292
01:57:33,507 --> 01:57:34,467
Speaker 21: I think things will torow.

2293
01:57:34,987 --> 01:57:37,187
Speaker 2: Have you personally looked even though you're new to this

2294
01:57:37,307 --> 01:57:39,827
Speaker 2: team too, you know, as an experienced player, look to

2295
01:57:39,947 --> 01:57:42,307
Speaker 2: edd your voice to some of the younger players who

2296
01:57:42,307 --> 01:57:44,147
Speaker 2: perhaps might be be doubting themselves.

2297
01:57:45,747 --> 01:57:50,267
Speaker 21: Yeah, look, I guess, I guess for my personal way

2298
01:57:50,307 --> 01:57:52,427
Speaker 21: of doing it, I guess is trying to lead example

2299
01:57:52,467 --> 01:57:56,547
Speaker 21: on the pitch, maybe I can do better myself. So yeah,

2300
01:57:56,947 --> 01:57:58,747
Speaker 21: that in that aspect, I'm just going to try and

2301
01:57:58,827 --> 01:58:02,187
Speaker 21: do that. I'm not really the most vocal person, so yeah,

2302
01:58:02,187 --> 01:58:04,627
Speaker 21: I'll try and give my guidance as go as I

2303
01:58:04,747 --> 01:58:06,907
Speaker 21: go through it. But yeah, for me, it's just more

2304
01:58:06,907 --> 01:58:09,507
Speaker 21: about trying to control my performance on the pitch and

2305
01:58:09,547 --> 01:58:10,667
Speaker 21: hopefully that helps the team.

2306
01:58:10,707 --> 01:58:14,227
Speaker 2: Yet, how happy are you with the way you go? Yeah?

2307
01:58:14,267 --> 01:58:16,787
Speaker 21: Look, I think even for myself personally it's a bit

2308
01:58:17,107 --> 01:58:20,107
Speaker 21: up and down. But yeah, no, I'm happy to obviously

2309
01:58:20,187 --> 01:58:22,267
Speaker 21: try and give my input to the team and hopefully

2310
01:58:22,347 --> 01:58:24,867
Speaker 21: I can, yeah, improve on that game by game.

2311
01:58:26,427 --> 01:58:29,187
Speaker 2: The goal against Newcastle, we got the chance to chat

2312
01:58:29,227 --> 01:58:30,787
Speaker 2: to cost for about his goald and get the chance

2313
01:58:30,827 --> 01:58:33,267
Speaker 2: to chat to you about your goal. Give us a

2314
01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:35,027
Speaker 2: give us your recollection of it.

2315
01:58:35,667 --> 01:58:38,867
Speaker 21: Yeah, it was a good strike. Yeah, obviously the most

2316
01:58:38,867 --> 01:58:41,467
Speaker 21: important thing was getting the win on the day. So yeah,

2317
01:58:41,867 --> 01:58:44,467
Speaker 21: hopefully if fucking keepscroing a bit more, hopefully helps the team.

2318
01:58:44,627 --> 01:58:46,347
Speaker 21: So yeah, that's what I'm looking to do.

2319
01:58:46,787 --> 01:58:49,347
Speaker 2: Is there something that you're looking dead to your CV?

2320
01:58:49,427 --> 01:58:51,587
Speaker 2: A few more goals? Yeah, it'd be great.

2321
01:58:52,107 --> 01:58:54,467
Speaker 21: Haven't really scored too many of my career, so yeah,

2322
01:58:54,547 --> 01:58:56,347
Speaker 21: that would be good and.

2323
01:58:56,427 --> 01:58:59,027
Speaker 2: A milestone for you as well. Two hundred a league

2324
01:58:59,067 --> 01:59:01,667
Speaker 2: means games. Are these the kind of milestones that mean

2325
01:59:01,787 --> 01:59:02,227
Speaker 2: something to you?

2326
01:59:03,267 --> 01:59:05,707
Speaker 21: Ah, yeah, definitely. I mean, to be completely honest, I

2327
01:59:05,747 --> 01:59:09,027
Speaker 21: didn't think i'd probably get to two hundred, but yeah,

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Speaker 21: it's just one of those things. I guess over time,

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Speaker 21: play a bit more games and now it's come along.

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Speaker 21: So no, it's been It's been great And yeah, obviously

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Speaker 21: the result wasn't good on the weekend, but it was

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Speaker 21: good to get Yeah, that must then, I guess, and.

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Speaker 2: Just back to this team. Finally, you've been on teams

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Speaker 2: that have been successful. Does this feel like a team

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Speaker 2: that's got the traits that, you know, the raw materials

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Speaker 2: of being a successful team. Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 21: I think obviously, you know, I don't want to keep

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Speaker 21: talking about last season, but I mean it's been obviously

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Speaker 21: successful in Luck just in the near past, so yeah,

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Speaker 21: so I think it definitely does. We just have to

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Speaker 21: try and stick together as a team and then hopefully, obviously,

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Speaker 21: like I said, build on performance each week and then yeah,

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Speaker 21: obviously by the end of season, you don't know how

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Speaker 21: it's going to be, but yeah, I think that's the

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Speaker 21: main thing at the moment.

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Speaker 2: That is paul A Retre talking about this afternoon's class

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Speaker 2: between his Wellington Phoenix and Adelaide United. While we were

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Speaker 2: listening to that, this happened at Edon Park, Smith and

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Speaker 2: to a Visco whips this one off the hip. It's

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Speaker 2: gone a long way back, but he's picked.

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Speaker 18: Out the fielder and that'll be the first work at

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Speaker 18: for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Smith gets his man. There you go. The acc commentary

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Speaker 2: of the first wicket of the innings of Vishka Fernando

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Speaker 2: caught by Mark Chapman off the bowling of Nathan Smith

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Speaker 2: for seventeen through eleven point one overs Sri Lanka, sixty

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Speaker 2: nine for one, sixty nine for one batting first, Nathan

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Speaker 2: Smith getting the breakthrough for New Zealand coming up seven

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Speaker 2: to three News Talks, heb when.

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Speaker 6: It's down to the line.

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Speaker 1: You made a call on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sports with Jason Pine News Talks.

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Speaker 2: MB four to three. That is us for Weekends Sport.

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow between midday and three, including the announcement

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Speaker 2: of the Champion's trophy. Side to head over there and

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Speaker 2: try and win some silver aware for the black Caps.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Thanks Andy McDonnell for producing debut show

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 23: What's our exit song? Well, yes, Bine, it's a bit

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Speaker 23: of a grim anniversary. Actually yesterday was the nine years

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Speaker 23: since the death of David Bowie, so we've got a

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Speaker 23: bit of China Girl to lead us out from the

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Speaker 23: great man himself.

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Speaker 10: Excellent.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your afternoon, You enjoy yours too. We'll see him

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Speaker 2: a right midday.

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